Advise on toddler sitting/chair

(55 Posts)
MoRaw Mon 31-Dec-12 14:06:07

Hi All

Any advice on what toddler chair to buy for my son to sit in while watching his educational programme on TV? He is 13 months and his bouncer is no longer appropriate as it does not sit him upright enough. Also, normal adult sofa seems inappropriate for his little body.

I want something that will be easy on his bones and will maintain a good posture.

Thanks in advance.

hahahhaha

okay

tele for tinies isn't really that educational, because it's essentially a passive activity. MUCH better for the baby to get out and about, exploring the world with senses, supported by adult/s.

wrt a chair easy on his bones and to maintain good posture um well erm prob a cushion would do, not far to fall at age 13 months.

smile

MoRaw Mon 31-Dec-12 21:29:36

Thanks BoysAreLikeDogs.

By the way, I did not say he watches TV. I said watching his educational programme on TV. To be more precise, it is a programme that helps him learn to read (controversial but ...). It is a programme that requires parent participation. So worry not. He is not left on his own to passively watch TV.

amirah85 Mon 31-Dec-12 21:46:35

grinlet him sit on a cushion on the floor!or sofa is not that bad!how have humans managed to sit till now??

MoRaw Mon 31-Dec-12 21:49:21

You're right amirah85. I just wondered what other people did. Also did not want to compromise his posture at an early age. The programme is only 20 minutes long so not a long time sitting. A cushion sounds practical and cheap (and takes up little space).

Your lap?

Tee2072Thing Mon 31-Dec-12 21:53:01

Compromise his posture? PFB, is he?

Seriously, just let him sit on the floor.

JollyOldChristmas Mon 31-Dec-12 21:55:19

Where does he sit while he does other things? We got a wee table and chairs from Dunelm Mill that DS uses to sit at to draw pictures, play with playdoh or have a snack.

For watching tv he usually wanders about, sits on the sofa or sits/stands on the floor.

Iggly Mon 31-Dec-12 21:56:18

Tv for a 13 month old? Even if it is interactive, what's wrong with reading him a book hmm

Fairylea Mon 31-Dec-12 22:02:16

Jojo maman have some nice little bean bag chairs smile

CoolaYuleA Tue 01-Jan-13 01:49:18

TV of any kind is not recommended for children under two. They learn from interacting with people, not with a screen, parental participation or not.

It's up to you whether you let him watch it, but it IS still watching tv, no matter what the programme is. TV is TV, educational or otherwise. The people making the programme will of course tell you it's age appropriate, and will help your child. They're selling the programme. HCP will, however, tell you that children under two shouldn't be watching any tv. I tend to err on the side of the HCP rather than the people making money from children.

FWIW - the best way to learn to read is to use BOOKS. Flashcards are useful too. Using a tv instead of a book to help with reading just seems a little weird gimmicky and is a marketing ploy.

As for "compromise his posture" - at this age not something you need to worry about. The floor will be fine.

Piemother Tue 01-Jan-13 01:52:27

Baby genius?

Piemother Tue 01-Jan-13 01:53:25

Yy to gimmicky. Sounds like baby signing bollocks

Iggly Tue 01-Jan-13 05:04:55

"baby signing bollocks"? Agree gimmicky, yes, but baby signing is fantastic. Both of mine have/had done it and it's brilliant as I know what they want before they could talk.

Piemother Tue 01-Jan-13 07:39:31

It was mn that confirmed it is bollocks and linked me to royal college of SALT's concerns about it. I has seen it delay speech in one child.

Don't buy a cushion! Sit him on your lap and read a story. I understand that babies don't gain anything from tv as they cannot manage to watch the pretty colours and listen to the language and background noise. I agree with no tv until age two.

In respect of the baby sign study mentioned I'm amused that the study showed a speech delay in ONE child. Not exactly conclusively damning is it?

JollyOldChristmas Tue 01-Jan-13 08:17:35

I actually read a thing recently that suggested that flashcards are also bollocks and will not improve speech development. It was linked to on here but I can't find the link.

The Royal College of SALT seems to be undecided on the use of baby signing, however much of the positive comment on baby signing appears to relate to the interaction at classes rather than using a video. We did the classes, which were fun, but never bothered with the signs at home.

I appreciate that some people are anti-TV for small children, but I think that the majority of small children watch a bit of TV. Is this really any worse than In The Night Garden?

Tee2072Thing Tue 01-Jan-13 08:30:04

The child is 13 months! He doesn't need flashcards or TV or anything but someone to spend time with him and read to him and tickle his belly and love him.

FFS

Flashcards and TV shows about reading. ::wanders off muttering about tiger mothers::

Iggly Tue 01-Jan-13 08:32:26

I didn't do baby signing via tv. We did the classes and my babies can/could sign. In fact I only did the classes for my eldest and just signed for dd. I'm not bothered about whether it makes them talk sooner, just that I can understand them now.

As for tv more generally, it is bad for under 2s and even when older, it's not great in large amounts.

VerityClinch Tue 01-Jan-13 08:36:34

I was a child prodigy. I sit my preschoolers in front of the TV for 4 hours a day to toy a few of their brain cells so they won't suffer from the burden of super-intelligence the way I did.

wink

ChristmasKnackers Tue 01-Jan-13 08:45:26

Back to the OP question. We had a beanbag chair from jojo... It's brilliant.

VerityClinch Tue 01-Jan-13 08:45:37

*rot, not toy.

See, it works.

MadNortherner Tue 01-Jan-13 08:46:22

Mine were snuggled on my lap or sitting on the floor at that age. I agree with other posters though - I saw one conference presentation that showed tv watching to be akin to sleep in terms of brain activity. I don't mean that your child shouldn't watch and enjoy TV with you for a bit of something different, of course.

You could always just wedge a cushion behind him on the sofa. Another thought - is he too big now for a Bumbo?

Fairylea Tue 01-Jan-13 08:58:23

I will readily admit to leaving ds 7months in front of cbeebies for 10 mins here and there if we have exhausted all the toys and books and rolling around playing (because I am exhausted). I doubt it will have any long term effect on him (dd age 9 is in all the top groups etc and watched far more tv than ds).... and it does help to save my sanity.

BoffinMum Tue 01-Jan-13 09:01:24

Professional hat on.

Turn the TV off until he is two and forget about educational programmes for this age group, as they are a complete and utter waste of time.

He will learn when he is good and ready, and he is hard wired to do so. Nothing you do or don't do will make a difference, apart from the usual love and cuddles, charting to him, and sharing his world.

If you want to encourage reading, buy him a big collection of beautiful picture books to look at with you, and go to the local library with him once a week.Show him what his name looks like written down, and point out that writing is on his cereal packet or whatever.

I promise you, that's all toddlers need in terms of reading, even super genius ones. The rest they do themselves.

BoffinMum Tue 01-Jan-13 09:02:21

Chatting

BoffinMum Tue 01-Jan-13 09:06:14

PS We are big telly watchers in this house, and I think Cbeebies is a great channel, so I am not anti TV at all, but I don't think TV as a babysitter for under twos is a good choice, unless parents are ill or prostrate with exhaustion.

JollyOldChristmas Tue 01-Jan-13 10:43:42

We have the tv on things that 20mo Ds likes an average of 1-1.5 hours a day I reckon.

He can recognise his name, Mummy, Daddy and his friend's name written down. He also recently was able to point out the first letter of his name and his bf's name on a computer keyboard. He knows lots of colours and a handful of shapes. He had over 50 words at 13months. He has counted to 4 a few times.

TV does not appear to be causing ds developmental delay. I think the concern is that if your only interaction with your child involves tv.

MoRaw Tue 01-Jan-13 13:39:31

Haha, I see this has turned into a debate on whether or not to allow a baby to watch TV. Some people are even assuming I do not read to my son?

We all have to do what we think is best for our kids. 20 minutes out of a day learning words on a TV screen is hardly going to do him damage. In fact, from what I can see, he is doing very well. I spend A LOT of time reading to him (well my husband thinks so). I spend time playing with him, taking him swimming, walking, etc, etc. So his exposure to his word programme is limited. My son is doing well and I am happy with his progress. I will raise my son how I was raised.

I hear you VerityClinch. I am careful to create boundaries for myself.

MoRaw Tue 01-Jan-13 13:43:37

By the way, I do not use the TV as a babysitter. I cannot see how it would be possible to do so with my son. Leaving him unattended is out of the question. If I turn my eye for a moment I am sure he would be up to mischief. I do not take chances leaving him unattended.

Iggly Tue 01-Jan-13 13:48:39

Tv isn't recommended because it causes kids to shut down (hence it being like sleeping) and you passively receive information.

Tv isn't recommended for kids under 2 at all. There's research into it.

If you read to your child why use these programmes? A pointless exercise IMO.

MoRaw Tue 01-Jan-13 15:05:09

I use these programmes because they work (at least from what I can see). Of course, if they are pointless to you, then you should not allow your child to engage in them.

As for TV and whether it is good or bad; the fact is that there is no consensus. Moreover, the issue is about over exposure and non-parental participation, not about 10 minutes here and 20 minutes there.

As for TV causing kids to shut down, this is a gross misrepresentation of the reason why TV is not recommended for kids.

At the end of the day, we all must do what, in our view, is best for our kids. I am sure all of us are very well aware of the research re. kids watching TV. If my son does not do well in life, I can bet you it will not be because he watched a word programme for 20 minutes on TV here and there. If you did a survey of criminals or of people with mental health issues, I am sure you will find that some watched TV when they were babies and some did not. However, I dare say that exposing a child to reading, identifying words (flashcards or a TV screen), etc will either do some good or have no effect but it won't cause the child to be brain damaged. So what I am saying is that, at best it will help the child at worse, it will have no effect.

choccybiccylover Tue 01-Jan-13 16:23:20

I use the fisher price infant to toddler rocker with mine and they're quite comfy, but saw a lovely toddler chair in ikea yesterday (sorry can't remember it's name),it was about £20 and quite stylish. My dd uses her chair for alsorts-eating, reading and TV.

BoffinMum Wed 02-Jan-13 08:37:12

If you really want him to do this, I think the healthiest option might be just to let him sit on a rug in front of the TV - that way he'd be building up his back muscles a bit and be be able to find his most comfortable position. Otherwise I suppose a little wooden chair from IKEA might work as well. Alternatively there are unusual chairs that promote good posture from the Back Store - for example inflatable balloon ones with a little back support. That way you'd be teaching good posture habits for the future, and getting him to associate them with TV, which is no bad thing.

BoffinMum Wed 02-Jan-13 08:41:33

I never said TV was bad, by the way, I said it was pointless for tinies and book sharing had a substantially stronger effect, along with library visits.

The most recent TV/developmental delay research was done on deprived children in Norfolk, so obviously has limited relevance to people posting here.

hazeyjane Wed 02-Jan-13 08:55:57

Can someone link me to the thing about baby signing being bollocks, especially wrt RC SALT's opinions, please.

I'm just interested because I am about to be sent on a course in Makaton, in order to help communication with my ds with severe speech disorder.

Iggly Wed 02-Jan-13 08:58:22

hazey, I suspect it's been misrepresented by use of the word bollocks. I'm sure for speech disorders it's fantastic as it means the child can communicate. Perhaps they meant bollocks in terms of children with no issues helping them talk sooner?

BoffinMum Wed 02-Jan-13 09:04:11

I think the point is that some mums are led to believe a lot of paid for courses will result in some sort of educational advantage for their very young children, whereas the reality is that for most children they won't. However when used on a therapeutic capacity for children with additional needs they can be invaluable in levelling the playing field.

Zoelda Fri 08-Mar-13 18:03:21

Sorry I know this is old but HaHAHA)

Are you lot serious?

Ha

My 15 month old watches a bit of tv in the evening with her brother. And......?! Some of you need to chill the fvck out. Stop reading the books and be a bit less judgemental.

Btw I found this looking for threads about beanbag chairs so if anyone has anything sensible to say about them....

Inclusionist Fri 08-Mar-13 20:19:38

I will ingnore the tv/no tv and just comment on chairs..

DS had a Silvercross Doodle as his highchair. It is now fab as a toddler table and chair and TBH I still use the chair at floor level with the tray attached occasionally when DS is having a snack that might be messy.

They are expensive but I think at 13 months you would still get a tonne of use out of it. DS is massive for 2 1/2 but the chair and table are still just the right size for drawing/ craft/ playdough etc.

Inclusionist Fri 08-Mar-13 20:20:21

Oops zombie

VegasBride Fri 08-Mar-13 21:16:11

Jesus what is the big deal about watching a bit of tv I am a mother of two with a very bright 2 year old who watches tv cbeebies etc a child of the seventies myself i was regularly sitting in front of the tv and now manage to communicate effectively and interact with humans . I think people are very judgemental especially as the question asked was about a suitable chair

rapademic Sun 11-Aug-13 21:36:28

MoRaw - I came to this thread after googling toddler seats and I really feel for you - other people have no right to judge you based on whether you choose to let your toddler watch TV or not. My 13 month old very much enjoys In The Night Garden, especially the musical aspect but also has fun reading books (That's Not My Dragon is a particular favourite smile ). I wanted a chair so that he could get used to the idea of sitting in one, as he hasn't got the hang of sitting on the sofa without trying to launch himself off it! For those debating the evidence over whether under 2's should even be exposed to television at all, it is worth noting that, as with many areas of research, guidelines and evidence for or against a given practice will change on a daily basis, subject to the results of whatever studies are undertaken at that time.
Best of luck finding a nice comfy chair for your LO smile xx

NatBryden Thu 13-Feb-14 19:09:01

I have never posted anything before but feel so compelled and disgusted by the views on here that I had to respond. I am not here to comment on the chair nor the watching of TV as I have my own thoughts on both, but where is the support ladies!!! I can not believe that some people have read a piece of research and feel they can judge others based solely on this without a care for individuals circumstances. We are all doing the best we can and to see this complete lack of consideration (whats even worse) the question wasn't even about TV. I suggest you quit projecting your own insecurities and idealistic views when they are neither requested nor helpful, and answer the original question only, or ideally not bother answering at all, you are a disgrace!! MoRaw - I hope you found a great chair that your little one is happy in, I'm off to do more research on this myself as this site has been far from helpful. :0)

ianleeder Thu 13-Feb-14 19:28:47

I'm a bit shocked with some of the answers on here. What's wrong with a bit of tv? I have the tv on and it's my lifesaver! I have 2 kids to look after as well as doing the house chores and working so if 10 mins of tv can make a difference of piece then why not? Back to the op question, sit her on your lap so u can watch together.

MiaowTheCat Thu 13-Feb-14 23:22:50

Give it another couple of months when you're fishing a toddler out from down there back of the sofa and you won't be as worried about perfect seating choice and more vomit, stain and toddler resistance!

pennyapples Fri 14-Feb-14 18:53:05

Good lord some people are very judgemental! I love the bedtime hour on cbeebies, think those programmed are fabulous, musical, fun, lovely. My now teenage nephews watched that kind of stuff and arejust fine, I remember watch with mother, playschool, playaway, me Ben, bod anyone? Did me no harm. It's all s but hysterical.

GingerDoodle Fri 14-Feb-14 20:39:41

My DD (17 months) has always sat on the sofa, on the floor with a V cushion, in a bumbo, and now we have just got her a little arm chair (from Amazon). I guess it depends how high your tv is tho lol.

toomuchtooold Sat 15-Feb-14 07:32:27

Just popping in to say my 21 month old twins watch the TV. I can't see that it does any harm and for me, sick of the sound of my own voice all day, it's cool to have something to talk about with them rather than having to invent stuff to talk about the whole time. Also, one of them does laps round the coffee table in celebration when the Tweenies comes on, so I'm going to assume that's not doing her any harm.

As for the sitting, I'd say at 13 months he's best on the floor or the sofa where he can squirm about and try a variety of postures.

slipperyfish Fri 04-Apr-14 16:07:08

Blimey! The poor woman only asked for advice on a chair, and she gets abuse for letting her child watch a bit of TV. Get off your high horses people - I'm sure you're not all perfect!

cherby Sat 10-May-14 22:05:59

WOW!! found this looking for chairs. what a bunch of vile old biddies moaning at the poor woman asking about a chair lol, poor kids cant be kids anymore.
We sit on the floor or lay on a blanket when we watch tv. Ive seen some good chairs at kiddicraft with tables as well for crafts etc.
right got to go...tweenies, little robots, baby jake, dr ranj, mister maker oh and mr tumble are on in a bit. lol

cherby Sat 10-May-14 22:08:19

WOW!! found this looking for chairs. what a bunch of vile old biddies moaning at the poor woman asking about a chair lol, poor kids cant be kids anymore.
We sit on the floor or lay on a blanket when we watch tv. Ive seen some good chairs at kiddicraft with tables as well for crafts etc.
right got to go...tweenies, little robots, baby jake, dr ranj, mister maker oh and mr tumble are on in a bit. lol

cherby Sat 10-May-14 22:08:23

WOW!! found this looking for chairs. what a bunch of vile old biddies moaning at the poor woman asking about a chair lol, poor kids cant be kids anymore.
We sit on the floor or lay on a blanket when we watch tv. Ive seen some good chairs at kiddicraft with tables as well for crafts etc.
right got to go...tweenies, little robots, baby jake, dr ranj, mister maker oh and mr tumble are on in a bit. lol

gemlootay Mon 29-Sep-14 19:52:57

Ha!!! Was hoping to get some help about armchairs for my daughter's Christmas present. Good grief ladies - get a grip!! Cherby - if you found any, let me know.

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