So where *is* the best place to bring up children?

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BananaSkin Sun 06-Jul-08 18:45:19

Following on from the thread on Parenting about bringing up children in London, where do you think would be a good place to bring them up? Is there anywhere that is safer, interesting, has cultural richness, good schools etc?

MissingMyHeels Sun 06-Jul-08 18:48:42

I think Surrey is a good compromise (I am possibly biased), close to London so you have all the cultural stuff but with a low crime rate and very good schools on the whole.

Downside is it's pretty expensive!

MissingMyHeels Sun 06-Jul-08 18:49:20

In fact, I say Surrey but I think pretty much any of the home counties are a good place to bring up children for the above reasons.

butwhybutwhy Sun 06-Jul-08 18:49:36

Yorkshire

deanychip Sun 06-Jul-08 18:51:24

i live just outside Blackpool.
tis absolutely gorgeous, quiet, rural yet 10 mins from busy town. Manchester 1.5 hours away lake district 1 hour away.
house prices low, crime low, schools good,
we love it.
looking out of the bedroom window we see sheep in the fields around us. bliss

deanychip Sun 06-Jul-08 18:51:56

ah yes Yorkshore is another fab place, we love it there as well.

Elibean Sun 06-Jul-08 19:18:45

We live in SW London, thought about moving to Surrey but I felt sort of claustrophobic there, personally...just doesn't fit for me. My BF is happy there, just not me.

Have wondered about Oxford (my childhood home), and Bristol (my early adulthood home). Any views??

Though I'm very happy here for now, tbh smile

Rachmumoftwo Sun 06-Jul-08 19:21:45

I love bringing mine up in Somerset. We are a stones throw from Bristol, 2 hours by train to London, have Devon and Cornwall on our doorstep and can be in Wales in less than an hour. The local school is good, and compared to the home counties, houses are affordable.

ScottishMummy Sun 06-Jul-08 19:29:02

good is where you feel safe and settled.we all have different opinions/preferences.one person's idyll is another person's dump

Piccalilli2 Sun 06-Jul-08 19:35:23

Yorkshire, definitely. I'm in SW Sheffield, all the benefits of a reasonable size city but still friendly and the Peak District is on our doorstep.

staranise Sun 06-Jul-08 19:38:37

agree with PP, it would be impossible for everyone to agree. For me a smallish town by the sea would be perfect ie, has all the facilities of shops, schools, community etc but lots of open space as well. Worst place for me is anywhere you have to drive lots.
We used to live in Barcelona which was perfect for me but once we had children the constant flying to and from the UK was unbearable. Without kids, I'd move back there tomorrow.

Squirdle Sun 06-Jul-08 20:34:02

We are in Winchester. I think it's a great place to bring up children. All 3 of the local secondary schools are excellent (one of the reasons we chose to move here from London 3 yrs ago when DS1 started secondary) We are in a village just outside, but it is not too far for DS to cycle into town. If we'd satyed in London he wouldn't have had as much freedom, I'd have been too worried.

silvermum Sun 06-Jul-08 21:27:08

we're seriously wondering about France hmm. feels much less crowded that the south east of England; better weather (in the south), good state schools, great healthcare, lovely food, WAAY cheaper than London...only problem is earning a good living!

We're in rural Highland Scotland in a small town. We've got good schools, real community spirit, local shops, moderate transport, and low crime rates. However, we're miles from DP's family and to get anywhere that's somewhere is at least an hour's drive. For kids it's great though.

bungalowbelle Sun 06-Jul-08 21:30:03

The new forest if you need to be able to get to London easily now and again.

Otherwise, Dorset.

misdee Sun 06-Jul-08 21:30:44

we are in hertfordshire. apparently has one of the lowest rates of crime in the country, according to the ad on the back of the bus.

i like it here due to the greeness, not far from the countryside, not far from london if we want to go there, and generally its quite a pleasent place to be.

BananaSkin Mon 07-Jul-08 12:04:52

Does anyone have any experience of Bath or Marlborough areas?

MogTheForgetfulCat Mon 07-Jul-08 12:08:21

I'm in Bath, it's fab - small but still a city with city things going on, masses for kids to do, lovely big parks and really close to countryside. Just needs a beach, and it'd be perfect!

DartmoorMama Mon 07-Jul-08 12:14:36

I live in Devon, Its pretty nice, plenty of space my only negative would be that I end up driving quite far to find a lot of activities maybe up to an hour each way, longer in the summer when the tourists are around, clogging up the lanes. I grew up here and facilities for children have definitely got worse since I was a child, think its more tailored to the huge retired population. It is beautiful though but we are thinking of moving to get better access to amenities, either to Bath area or Hertfordshire.

Devon is good if you have money and don't mind driving. Houses are expensive in the nicest areas but wages are very low and there are limited opportunities for work.

Lazza03 Mon 07-Jul-08 12:41:57

Bananaskin, I was born and brought up in Bath. I don't think it's so great for bringing up kids....why? Because of the drugs, no kidding, because there is alot of middle class cash there are a lot of kids who spend it on lots of drugs, class A's go down a treat when they're trying to look cool. The private schools are rife with them, and the state schools. The parents have NO idea.
I live in Croydon and am leaving next week because the schools are crap. I have lived in Wolverhampton, Ok but not pretty, Brighton, again lots of drugs and thinks it's way cooler than it is, Bristol, I love but schools are a problem, Stoke Newington, fun but I don't want my kids going to Hackney schools and Brixton, NO way.
We're moving to Cirencester. Can't wait. Great schools, quite arty, beautiful, close to lots of other places and doubtless not for everyone (thank goodness!)

jimjamshaslefttheyurt Mon 07-Jul-08 12:43:54

We moved from London to Devon (grew up here so it was a return home for me). I need to be near Dartmoor and the kids benefit from the moors and beaches too.

Kewcumber Mon 07-Jul-08 12:45:02

I grew up in a small town on the south wales coast. Lots a green areas around and some pretty country side. But couldn't get around as a teenager and had to rely on my dad for transport and really not much cultural and hardly a non-white person to be seen for miles. I rushed to London as soon as I could and here I will stay until DS is independent.

jammi Mon 07-Jul-08 12:46:37

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sophiewd Mon 07-Jul-08 12:47:55

Dorset, beach is walkable, lots of good friends, good schools.

HeadFairy Mon 07-Jul-08 12:49:15

I think somewhere like Oxford has the best of both worlds, still near enough London for you to realistically be able to do a day out but far enough away to be near gorgeous countryside, I love the cotswolds... it's also a beautiful city and because of the university it's cultured and interesting. I know someone at work who commutes from Oxford to London (we're in west London so it's not too bad) and I'm very tempted if I ever left London/SE, that's where it would be to. A close second would be somewhere in Hampshire, maybe the Chichester area, so we could have a boat for weekends pottering about in the Solent.

Gateau Mon 07-Jul-08 12:49:15

Northern Ireland - which is why we're moving back.. Wherever you live you're always close to the sea.

Jojay Mon 07-Jul-08 12:52:47

I live in a village in Warwickshire.

I'm a southener by birth and had lots of preconceived outdated views about the Midlands being a smoky urban sprawl, but it's fab.

Lovely small / medium sized towns like Stratford on Avon and Leamington Spa not far away, Birmingham for city stuff, and lots of peaceful countryside in between.

Right in the middle of the motorway network, so communications are good , only down side is it's a long way from the coast.

MilaMae Mon 07-Jul-08 12:53:28

I live in Devon too and guessing from your name Dartmoormama quite near to you grin

I adore it here and feel my kids are very lucky,they seem to be having a real childhood. They can lead an outdoors life,fab schools, Exeter very near so can get a decent latte,quite near to Bristol and Bath for the culture thing if needs be. Cornwall is very near too if we want a change of scene.

I've lived in Bristol and Bath too,love Bristol but schools are an issue and agree with the points re Bath. Also we like the kids to be outdoors a lot and to be honest found Bath a bit restrictive at the weekend,great if you're into cafe culture but if you want the real outdoors there isn't a lot to do. To be honest we got bored at the weekends, Georgian parks don't cut it after a while and I find Somerset too flat.

Suprised that you don't find much to do DM we were all saying only this week there is sooooo much to do you can't cram it all in at the weekend. During the summer holidays there is masses on too. We only have 1 car as find there is plenty nearby so don't need to drive round much. I'm guessing if you're right in the middle of the moor it would be different though. Have you thought about moving to somewhere bigger nearby????

DanJARMouse Mon 07-Jul-08 12:53:34

Personally I love Suffolk.

Was brought up in Ipswich, but we now live in Felixstowe, and for us it is ideal.

We live on a private estate where the kids all play out together (even at almost 3 and almost 4yrs old) its safe and quiet.

Admittedly the closest school itsnt great, hence I choose to drive further afield for a very good school in the local village.

I love living here, and I dont think I could go back to living in Ipswich now, its far too big and crowded.

Litchick Mon 07-Jul-08 13:31:01

I don't think the location actually matters - it's the feeling of security that's important. For some that will be inner city Manchester, for others it will be rural Wales.
With regards to the other thread it almost doesn't matter whether the stats about knife crime are true or not, what matters is that, as a family, you feel comfortable.
For me that meant not raising my kids in London and moving out.

Fennel Mon 07-Jul-08 13:46:55

We have lived in Manchester and Devon since having children. I don't actually think one is better than the other for bringing up children. DP and I prefer living in a little Devon village near the sea and the moors, but the dds don't really mind. They liked Manchester, and it took them a while to like Devon as much. Both have their pluses for children.

Actually we drive far less, and spend less time commuting, in a little Devon village than we did in Manchester. It's easy to assume that city life is less car-dependent but that was one of the reasons we moved, because in Manchester we did end up needing two cars for communting and childcare needs. And here we don't as it's all smaller scale and cyclable and walkable.

BananaSkin Mon 07-Jul-08 14:05:51

Cirencester is lovely.

I knew, like any City, Bath had a drug problem, but I didn't realise it was that bad.

Lazza03 Mon 07-Jul-08 14:12:25

I'm not so sure about Oxford, we looked into it as that's where my husband's new job is. The problem is it's a city of two halves. Either really posh and expensive or really run down (and still rather expensive). The schools aren't that great, I guess because all the academic's kids go to private school. That's why hubby is commuting to Ciren, only 40 mins in a car share along country lanes, still quicker than his London commute.

HeadFairy Mon 07-Jul-08 14:23:23

I didn't realise that about Oxford Lazza, it looks so lovely I guess I didn't go to the more run down parts. Chichester (and the boat) it is then

MilaMae Mon 07-Jul-08 14:25:10

There is quite a drug problem in Oxford too same sort of thing as Bath. I grew up in Oxfordshire and came across more drugs there than when I was at uni in Bristol!!!!!!

MilaMae Mon 07-Jul-08 14:26:38

It's not the rundown parts either,it's a very middle class thing there too private particularly and state schools too or at least it was when I was there,could have changed now.

HeadFairy Mon 07-Jul-08 14:28:17

All those posh university kids with their drug habits eh? <tuts>

Doobydoo Mon 07-Jul-08 14:29:01

Was brought up in Suffolk.There are some lovely parts.Lived in Stratford On Avon which we liked but expensive.Now live in the Southeast of Ireland.Just settling in after 3 years!

Twelvelegs Mon 07-Jul-08 14:29:12

I love Somerset, near to a good city, not too far from a beach and countryside.

Twelvelegs Mon 07-Jul-08 14:29:44

PS There are drugs everywhere....

throckenholt Mon 07-Jul-08 14:31:51

anywhere outside of a big city - but within access of a big city for when you want the bright lights etc.

staranise Mon 07-Jul-08 14:32:50

yeah, I lived in Oxford for four years in both the posh bits and the rundown parts and there was drugs everywhere, lots of junkies and dealing going on. But it is a nice city with loads of parks and green spaces and things to do. Old Headington etc always seem a nice place to bring up children.

I think we will probably end up in Suffolk as that's where DH is from. I like the idea of the green space and being near the sea but think it will feel rather narrow-minded and insular compared with living i a city. I've always lived in large cities and love the convenience of walking everywhere etc. but like PPs have said, it's not an issue that everyone is ever going to agree on. For me, I'd rather die than live in the Home Countries but that's purely because of my inbuilt chip-on-the-shoulder northern inverted snobbery, plus hatred of driving. Many people would hate living in a city (esp. London where we are now) grin

Twelvelegs Mon 07-Jul-08 14:34:22

I love the South, more tricky to be a southerner up north than the other way round, I think. Shhhh don't tell anyone!

MogTheForgetfulCat Mon 07-Jul-08 14:42:37

God, I must go round with my eyes shut - not noticed a big drug problem in Bath. Not like when I lived in Hackney and was offered smack by a dealer as I wheeled DS1 along in his buggy... hmm

HeadFairy Mon 07-Jul-08 14:47:45

I think you're right twelvelegs, I found it very hard being a southerner in Leeds.

Kewcumber Mon 07-Jul-08 14:49:22

I also think your "ideal" may change subject to your DC's age.

andiem Mon 07-Jul-08 14:49:44

I think where you are happy I am a londoner and live in sw london and would find it very hard to live anywhere else
I would be miserable so everyone else would be too grin

HeadFairy Mon 07-Jul-08 14:51:40

My proviso for happiness would of course involve being near my family, so while the West of Ireland may be the most beautiful place on earth, I'd miss my mum and dad.... so we're back to Chichester

Gateau Mon 07-Jul-08 15:05:17

Totally agree with you headfairy. That's a major reason for us moving back to Northern Ireland. I miss my family dearly.

Twelvelegs Mon 07-Jul-08 15:10:13

Me too! I went there to Uni, and even though I had two jobs I was still a snobby sountherner!!

MilaMae Mon 07-Jul-08 15:11:48

I was on teaching practise Headfairy in some very rundown areas. I was talking about the city itself not the uni. Also I didn't tend to spend much time on campus so in 4 years spent an awful lot of time in all areas of the city living, working, teaching and socialising. I tended to live in some very run down areas as was broke. Was offered very little- Oxford and Oxfordshire however was a whole different ball game.

HeadFairy Mon 07-Jul-08 15:30:13

when were you there twelvelegs? I was at the uni from 1988 to 1992. It was a big eye opener for me coming from the south. I hate to be south biased but I found it quite scary, there were lots of fights in pubs and scary thing happening, and I grew up in Croydon so not exactly leafy surroundings! I guess fights in pubs aren't restricted to the north, it's just my first experiences of crime and violence were in the north.

Idobelieveinfairies Mon 07-Jul-08 15:32:50

Jersey is a great place to live...so safe for bringing up children.

Just verrryyyyyy expensive to buy a house and live at the same time!

HeadFairy Mon 07-Jul-08 15:41:42

bad drug problems though idobelieveinfairies... and lots of binge drinking. I know drink and drugs are everywhere but the duty free thing combined with high average incomes plus small island where it's easy to smuggle in to make for quite a problem. Plus no public transport in the evenings would really piss me off, taxis are so expensive.

Twelvelegs Mon 07-Jul-08 15:57:50

I was there '93-97. It was my first experience of drugs ( I come from a quiet town a stones throw from countryside) violoence, scary drunks and city girls (you know the ones who share a bottle of vodka before a night of castaways or blast aways and then pull anyone to avoid spending the night alone!!).

HeadFairy Mon 07-Jul-08 16:00:21

Crikey, you went to the same pubs as me

I used to work in one in the city centre, I think it was called the Bank or something, it was below ground in an old bank vault or something. Anyway, I'd never seen panic buttons on a bar before!!! The girls were waaaay meaner than the blokes. They scared me blush

staranise Mon 07-Jul-08 17:42:49

Oh but for me, Yorkshire is the south grin

<star realises she's in a minority on this one>

And yes, Leeds is rough by anyone's standards. Sheffield is much more civilised.

Agree re. southerners in the north, at least all my schoolfriends from the north now live in the south iwhtout anyone caring where they're from.

I was pretty shocked by Oxford however when I moved there from the north aged 18. Mainly at the disparity between rich and poor ie, the stark contrast between the very rich and the levels of homelessness (at least everyone is poor in teh north grin ) but I think Oxford is probably quite extreme in this respect.

staranise Mon 07-Jul-08 17:43:48

And is it me, or do a majority of MNters (on all threads) live in SW London?

Twelvelegs Mon 07-Jul-08 17:48:58

I live in the Westcountry!

christywhisty Mon 07-Jul-08 17:53:43

Where I live I can get into the West End in about half an hour by train, yet we are surrounded by country park, with miles of walks and cycle rides. Best of both worlds

piratecat Mon 07-Jul-08 17:54:28

Devon? (biased)

cocolepew Mon 07-Jul-08 17:58:25

Northern Ireland. We don't have the casual violence (not too much, anyway) that seems to be in England. On the downside this is probably because the paramilitaries (still) run the estates. The countryside is beautiful and we're very friendly.

castlesintheair Mon 07-Jul-08 18:03:43

I grew up in a tiny village. Great when you are young. Dead boring when you hit your teens.

Live in Richmond now. Best of both worlds: lots of green and water but also lots of pavements so the townie in me doesn't become twitchy. 20 minutes to Waterloo and only 10 minutes from the start of the M3, gateway to the West Country (where I grew up).

Bertolli Mon 07-Jul-08 18:17:21

Primrose Hill?
Green, but central, lots of young families.

ps i agree Star, lots of SW London posters! Haven't come across any NWs..

ThingOne Mon 07-Jul-08 18:24:05

There are drugs everywhere, and binge drinking. I don't think anywhere is protected from this.

I moved to Bath and find life here a lot easier with children than N1. At least there aren't knives regularly found in primary schools or guns in secondaries. I hated been offered drugs on the street.

cocolepew Mon 07-Jul-08 18:27:21

Just re-read my post. I didn't sell it very well, did I ? hmm

cocolepew Mon 07-Jul-08 18:27:21

Just re-read my post. I didn't sell it very well, did I ? hmm

BananaSkin Mon 07-Jul-08 18:50:18

Where are you ChristyWisty?

ThingOne/other Bath people, can I pick your brain on the best primary schools in Bath please?

ivykaty44 Mon 07-Jul-08 19:00:23

JoJay ssshhh don't go telling them wink

christywhisty Mon 07-Jul-08 19:03:02

I am Cheshunt in Hertfordshire, just on the borders of London.

halogen Mon 07-Jul-08 19:18:07

Richmond's lovely. That's where I am, too; the only downside is how expensive it is in terms of housing!

ThingOne Mon 07-Jul-08 20:06:10

There are many good primary schools in Bath. According to ofsted a few are excellent but several of the "good" ones are really very good. They are have slightly different characters so it depends what you want. You'd have to visit them to find out more. Some of them also require regular church attendance and/or living very close so you have to factor that into your decision.

What parts of Bath do you like. I can start from there.

Lazza03 Mon 07-Jul-08 20:32:25

The best primary school in Bath is St. Stephen's I went there. It's on Lansdown and is still the best 30 years on, check out the ofsted report (plus I know people who go there now). Not required to attend church BTW, my family are atheists through and through. BTW, yes, drugs are everywhere, I agree, and as you will have noticed from where I have lived (Brixton, Hackney) I am fairly balanced in my outlook on these things. The thing about them in Bath is that they are socially acceptable, cool, something kids are peer pressured in to, and it's strong pressure. Couple that with the money floating about and you have huge numbers of E'd up teens or fucked on acid teens all over the place. Believe me, some very talented kids I used to know are now paranoid fuck-ups because they used to take 15 E's on a Saturday night just to be cool. BTW I went to state school until 16 and then private for 6th form, so I know both. As I said before The parents really don't have the foggiest idea what their little darlings spend their allowance on.

nkf Mon 07-Jul-08 20:38:39

I think Oxford is lovely and (just about) possible. I hear the schools are none too good though.

luckywinner Mon 07-Jul-08 20:42:00

How about Salisbury? Anyone from there? Am in London but family from there and miss them a lot. Have always wondered whether it would be a good place to end up in (I didn't grow up there so don't know what it would be like for dc)

BananaSkin Mon 07-Jul-08 20:44:32

Thanks Lazza/ThingOne. I don't really know where I would want to be, so any tips gratefully received.

Lazza03 Mon 07-Jul-08 20:57:37

Camden, Larkhall, Claremont, that's my neck of the woods, nice, quite arty, close enough to town and fields, Good views if up on the hill. And your kids can always score at snow hill.....only joking! (Kinda)

OrmIrian Mon 07-Jul-08 21:01:14

Doesn't matter all that much. Assuming you're excluding really terrifying estates and areas rife with crime and violence (which is a tiny proportion really)

If they have a good network of friends (and family if possible). A good grounding at home. And involved parents.

A 'nice' place makes it easier for parents that's all.

ANTagony Mon 07-Jul-08 21:09:16

I'm in North Wales. Beautiful sandy beaches, free prescriptions for young and old, excellent public transport, full time school available from 2.5 if you put them in a mixed medium school, normal school from 3 optional, no uni fees (I think), excellent subsidised pre and post school clubs, free leisure center use in summer holidays, local based WAG childrens groups looking after childrens issues, excellent fast train 2.5 hrs to London. Good road access (less than an hour) to Liverpool, Chester and Manchester. Rarely traffic jams - I actually have a friend who tunes into the traffic news whilst driving on clear roads on the coast road to remind herself just how lucky we are. Oh and really good house prices relative to South England. I sold a one/two bed terrace in Bath and brought a 4 bed, 4 reception in the middle of a village with half an acre, orchard, selection of mature trees and sea views and to top it all had change from the deal. Did I mention I like it! Horses for courses I guess - really depends on what makes you happy - what works for me maybe someone elses nightmare.

staranise Mon 07-Jul-08 21:26:33

How many people can really move to their ideal location? I agree, PP make north Wales, Circencester, Bath etc all sound lovely but could everyone find work there? Not being sarcastic, am genuinely interested in how flexible people can be in choosing a place to live re. having to be somewhere specific for work (not counting a horrendous commute).

I work freelance from home so am v flexible but DH (by far the larger income) is firmly grounded in London for the time being and that's primarily the reason why we moved from my ideal place (Spain).

myredcardigan Mon 07-Jul-08 21:43:23

It really depends what you're looking for and everyone disagrees on these things.

We moved up to Cheshire from a very affluent Surrey village last summer. We're the bit of Cheshire just south of Manchester and I love it here. It's very urban but just as lovely as surrey but unfortunately for us, we found it almost as expensive. We're southerners and I haven't had any problems.

I've lived all over the country and loved lots of it. I've always loved being by the sea or in the countryside but although it's great when they're little, IME they're not great for teenagers.

I love having everything Manchester has to offer on my doorstep but being far enough out to benefit from excellent schools and amenities.

Heifer Mon 07-Jul-08 22:10:10

We moved up from Wiltshire to the Wirral in December. We could have moved anywhere and decided on the Wirral.

It is a lovely place, only 10 mins from Liverpool, 25 mins from Chester and 40 mins from North Wales beaches.

Great schools, enough workplaces nearby, great transport and very friendly people. Lots of sports clubs locally.

We can walk to school, walk to the village shops (grocer, butcher etc) walk to pubs, only 10 mins away from nice beaches, estuary etc and of course the mersey!

Tis the right place for us to be.

BananaSkin Mon 07-Jul-08 22:28:10

Thanks Lazza

mumof2fabkids Mon 07-Jul-08 22:43:57

We live in Merseyside now, just outside of Liverpool, bordering Lancashire and it is fab. Great place to bring up children, close to everything, very low crime rates, despite what you might see on TV. We moved here for the schools would you believe, made great friends, lovely country pubs, a country life with an urban mix, on the coast, just perfect, and the people are wonderful. We all Love it, just hope we don't have to move due to DH's job.

Lazza03 Mon 07-Jul-08 23:14:35

Places to avoid in Bath are, Twerton, Whiteway, Oldfield Park (don't be fooled by the victorian houses at nice prices) and Peasedown. Most other bits are OK.

BananaSkin Tue 08-Jul-08 17:23:45

What's wrong with Oldfield Park? I thought it was quite 'respectable'.

Bundle Tue 08-Jul-08 17:24:43

I'd say at home

otherwise would involve lots of commuting

PeachyBAHonsBirthdayGirl Tue 08-Jul-08 17:26:17

I like it here, moved here 3 years ago, SE Wales (Caerleon)

villagey, close to cardiff, good schools, cheap housing, loads of free museums, etc

PeachyBAHonsBirthdayGirl Tue 08-Jul-08 17:30:15

oh and we have 3 cities in 45 minutes drive, 5 in an hours- excellevt (cardiff, newport, bristol, bath, swansea)

Lazza03 Tue 08-Jul-08 21:47:54

Went to school there for 5 years, was always rough. Wouldn't live there, even if people try to persuade me it's OK now. Maybe it has changed, but it's right next to Twerton and the wrong side of town for me.

granarybeck Tue 08-Jul-08 21:56:04

We live in Hertfordshire which is safe, good schools, 25 mins to london, close to countryside

ThingOne Tue 08-Jul-08 23:30:03

Bananaskin

Oldfield Park is full of students. They take six months to learn which day their bins are emptied. Then they have exams and obviously can't remember which day when studying. Then they go home. Absentee landlords fail to maintain properties. It's a bugger as houses are nice. Primary schools not so good.

For St Stephen's you need to live within about half a mile or attend the church. For Bathwick St Mary (the other "excellent" school) I think this year only church attenders got it.

I'd also avoid Odd Down and Southdown.

Staranise - lots of the daddies commute to London or work from home. Not just in Bath but throughout Wiltshire and Somerset. You are right that there are not loads of jobs. There are jobs in Bristol and Swindon if you like commuting.

notasheep Tue 08-Jul-08 23:37:55

Wales is fantastic (I have lived in Oxford and Surrey)

My children play out in the street unsupervised and my view from lounge is of the seagrin

gladders Wed 09-Jul-08 09:55:58

We live in Blackheath SE London - nice quiet area, decent school within walking distance - easy access to London for jobs, airports and culture. Will not be moving!

puppydavies Wed 09-Jul-08 10:09:02

lol at other person's nightmare antagony - i was a teenager in north wales and it scarred me for life, no kidding. i think if you're an outdoorsy type who doesn't mind driving everywhere and can fit in with small town mindsets it could be great...

BananaSkin Wed 09-Jul-08 10:09:33

ThingOne - thanks for that. I guess houses around those two schools must be extortionate then.

Lots of people from Wales I see - are you all Welsh? how do the Welsh welcome you? (My Dad's Welsh, I guess I could play on that a bit).

piratecat Wed 09-Jul-08 10:55:43

i think Blackheath is great, used to live down the road.

Prob the one place i would go back to if i could ever find the cash!!
Do they have housing asscociation properties there so i could do a swap?

flubdub Wed 09-Jul-08 11:00:48

I live here. Its in Lancashire and a BRILLIANT place to bring up kids. Both my mum and dads whole families have lived here all their life, and Iv NO intention of bringing my dcs up anywhere else.
Its Britains first fair trade town too! grin

UnquietDad Wed 09-Jul-08 11:02:59

Yorkshire. Cheapish housing, lovely countryside, cities nearby for culture and sport. If you can put up with people saying "grass" and "path" wrongly it's great.

NigellaTheOriginal Wed 09-Jul-08 11:12:13

Bananaskin - I'm in marlborough! (have i just outed myself?)
Schools O.K secondary scool v good, lots of poncy private ones near. crime virtually zero. transport shite. Swindon average big town - mainline trains but picey but smaller stations not too far away which are cheaper. hour to Bristol, hour and a bit to london.
counrtyside beautiful. nothing to do for teenagers. possible new theatre in the pipeline. No cheap supermarket - Waitrose or M&S. Lots of posh ladies shops. No childrens clothes shops. Lots of sports clubs. leisure centre.
rather nice all in all. and safe.

JRocks Wed 09-Jul-08 11:17:20

I live in Cornwall, and it's great for us - but I like the pace of life and can see that its not for everyone. There's plenty for DS right on our doorstep, and the rest isn't too far a drive away. smile

LadyThompson Wed 09-Jul-08 11:23:33

I would have said London - I live in West London, more central than West West - but I have to move to Oxfordshire when the baby is born end Nov. I do love London, but there was a murder round the corner from me the other day (not even reported!), and it makes you think about safety...Furthermore, my needs aren't the same as a child's. Keeping a London crashpad though. A tiny teeny weeny one. Would rather do that - have two really really small places in different parts of the country.

SummatAnNowt Wed 09-Jul-08 12:28:26

Yorkshire of course!

Tortington Wed 09-Jul-08 12:29:22

am not telling you becuase you will come here en masse and its quite nice ta

LadyThompson Wed 09-Jul-08 12:34:03

Aw c'mon Custardo. Tell us. Is it Bristol, Dorchester, or, er...Leamington Spa?

Tortington Wed 09-Jul-08 13:03:38

Darling, i'm hardly going to frequent those plces wink

VanillaPumpkin Wed 09-Jul-08 13:22:37

I vote for Suffolk. We moved from Surrey and Kent (as a child) and I would never go back. It is just TOO BUSY shock. My Dad lives in Kent (near Tonbridge) and it does my head in how long it takes to get anywhere.
Suffolk is great, plenty of things to do, good culture (at Snape Maltings etc) rural when you need it to be, has beaches, and a perfectly do-able train ride to London or Norwich.
I am currently in the West Midlands and can't wait to get back to Suffolk. It is OK here but the crime rate worries me and I would not want my children to grow up here really. Plus it is just not home
I did really like North Yorkshire too when we lived there, but that is too far from family to be an option. Having said that choices are limited anyway being a forces family for now. (Cyprus was the best place by far but that was not real life while we were there. It was a lovely dream with warm weather and a cleaner and enough disposable income to eat out once a week wink)

LadyThompson Wed 09-Jul-08 14:31:39

Ok Custardo, I reckon it's Winchester or Tunbridge Wells or...Chester.

Tortington Wed 09-Jul-08 14:42:05

Winchester? Darling, i am not some knockedup army gf you know.
Chester!! i Couldn't possibly venture that far north. The words Grim and Gravy come to mind.
Tunbridge wells, although itself is a pocket of relative affluence in the otherwise dismal Kent, still sadly remans in Kent.

NigellaTheOriginal Wed 09-Jul-08 14:46:07

Harrogate?

Pavlovthecat Wed 09-Jul-08 14:46:33

Devon - obviously! (confused that anyone would think otherwise hmm grin.

Beaches, countryside, woodlands, moors, cities, great schools, ferries to the continent, safe (as far as you can be safe), bright, fresh, beautiful, relatively cheap to live there, lots of things for children to do, depending where in Devon you live of course (same as anywhere).

Wages are low, but depending where you live, the houses are cheap to buy/rent, and wages are low depending on what you do for a living.

Drawback - the accent! grin

BananaSkin Wed 09-Jul-08 14:52:54

Nigella - we looked at Marlborough, but the parking was so bad we couldn't park the car to get to the estate agents!!

Pavlov - how do you cope with the tourists? when I've been to Devon in the summer it has taken hours to a mile down the road.

PixelHerder Wed 09-Jul-08 14:57:02

Re Bath and Bristol, I've lived in both and really like both.

Interesting re the drug thing in Bath, am not surprised, though I don't have direct experience of youth culture and schools (DD too young and me too old when we lived there). It does generally feel 'safe' to wander around, although the town centre is pretty grim on weekend nights.

Students are definitely one of the banes of Oldfield Park (lived there about 5 years ago) but it does have a nice community feel and good shops and cafes - I know a few middle class mummies who wouldn't live anywhere else!

I love Bristol, but am a bit freaked by how much it has changed in the last 10 years, it feels a lot more scary than it used to in terms of crime, social deprivation and unrest. A LOT of drugs too.

bigTillyMint Wed 09-Jul-08 15:08:16

Heifer, I was brought up in (nice part of)the Wirral (with it's grammar schools, etc)and I would NOT want to move back there, but I'm glad you like it! There was lots of drugs and binge-drinking in the Wirral when I lived there grin

London's the place for me, but I am getting a little uneasy about how safe my DC (esp DS) will be as teenagers.

LadyThompson Wed 09-Jul-08 15:19:59

Custardo - I knew it. It's Beaconsfield.

Anna8888 Wed 09-Jul-08 15:24:51

Custardo - if you think T Wells is a pocket of affluence, you need to look a bit more closely. The whole of the Weald of Kent (south/west) is immensely affluent... T Wells rather nasty in comparison.

iBundle Wed 09-Jul-08 15:29:06

harrogate without a doubt

MABS Wed 09-Jul-08 15:38:27

i know where custy lives

mrsshackleton Wed 09-Jul-08 15:59:55

Brighton

NigellaTheOriginal Wed 09-Jul-08 16:39:48

PArkings not so bad in Marlborough. Big car ark behing Waitrose and along by th river - also behind other side of high street. you just have to know where. local parking for local people

myredcardigan Wed 09-Jul-08 16:45:39

Oi! It's not all grim up North! I love it up here and I've lived in Hampshire, Berkshire, Herts, Surrey and Warwickshire (LS actually) but nothing beats Cheshire.(IMO of course wink)

I can't believe we spent all those years with DH working 16h days in The City when he could have been driving up the road to Manchester!

madmarriedNika Wed 09-Jul-08 21:33:44

Gosh, aren't we mainland UK, esp. England biased!

Can I put a huge vite in for *Northern Ireland*, esp. the north coast, where we reside. And I'm English born & bred- moved over here 6.5yrs ago. Love it. Wonderful, caring, friendly, generous people, gorgeous countryside, few tourists, brilliant unpolluted beaches, excellent state schools. Yes a lot of the kids classes haven't made it over here yet e.g. baby swim classes, baby/toddler gym classes, but they're coming (certainly already here in more urban areas).

I've previously lived in the New Forest, Hampshire, Southampton & Oxford. None can beat the stunning north coast of NI grin

madmarriedNika Wed 09-Jul-08 21:34:30

huge vite - oops blush- vote, obviously!

myredcardigan Wed 09-Jul-08 21:53:15

Yes Nika, you do have a stunning landscape in NI very similar to the west coast of Scotland.
Oh I could watch coast and listen to what's his name all night. grin

madmarriedNika Wed 09-Jul-08 21:56:27

ooooh LOVE the west coast of Scotland too
Were once looking at moving over to Oban but DH's job here was better so stayed put. Still have notions of moving at some point but v happy where we are- just go on hols to Scotland instead (great NI-Scotland ferries!). Love west coast of Ireland too...
Yep Coast is a fab programme, agree grin

GrinningGorilla Wed 09-Jul-08 21:59:48

If you were talking globally the World Health Organisation rates Canada as the best place in the world to raise children........health care is good, education system is brilliant, low crime rate in comparison to the U.K., loads of space, high standard of living, heavy focus on the outdoors and family leisure activites. (I am extremely biased though, waiting to emigrate there)

myredcardigan Wed 09-Jul-08 22:05:49

DH and I once rented a cottage in Connomara (sp?) on the western tip of Galway. Stayed there for most of the summer (which was wet)drinking, eating, walking and being generally loved-up. I have very fond memories of that summer.
Stunning beaches too!

halogen Wed 09-Jul-08 22:23:19

Ireland does appeal to me. After we'd been on holiday there with 6mo DD, we were mad keen to move there but obviously we never did anything about it and actually, I'd want to be in a city.

If you like the country, Guernsey would be a great option. If you have a skill (plumber, carpenter, electrician etc) or can get a skilled professional job there in the financial industry, it's easy to get local status and the schools are excellent, the beaches are beautiful, it's safe and friendly and perfect for small children. My little sister and brother grew up there and it was wonderful for them.

Dottoressa Thu 10-Jul-08 21:40:10

Yorkshire a thousand times over!

Harrogate in particular, but SW Sheffield is nice, too...

Poohbah Thu 10-Jul-08 23:20:04

I have lived in birmingham, warwickshire, west london - central and suburbs, coventry, wales and france.

Wales is safer, is culturally rich and has good schools and fresh air.
London is more interesting, is culturally rich but much less safe though and good schools are generally to be paid for.
The midlands is far from the sea, is flatish and I found it quite boring. Great if you like shopping and curry.
Warwick has Shakespeare obviously and there are some good museams but not huge amounts of culture washing around.
France has good schools, food, culture and family life but obviously you have to speak the lingo and may miss Britain.

squilly Fri 11-Jul-08 10:01:19

Sheffield (but I'm biased). It's great because it grows with your children.

When they're young it has good quality theatres, great museums and art galleries, a high proportion of green spaces for a city and a great urban feel for shopping. You can shop indoors, outdoors, locally and it's all good.

When they're mid range, teenagers, it has great facilities on the door steps and lots of activities in the city. The fresh air angle is handled by the Peak District which is just on the doorstep.

When they're late teens, early twenties, it has a buzzing nightlife and is great for gigs.

It's a place where lots of students come and lots decide to settle. They move to Sheffield and never leave! I'm not born and bred myself, being a Midlander, so I'm not biased by birth.

When my dd was little I used to stand her on my living room windowsill (we have great views across the parks and cities) and tell her how lucky she is to live here. She's now 7 and I've never heard the word bored leave her lips. We're both looking forward to the summer hols here, because there's so much to do. I LOVE it!

Sorry...I waffled a bit. But I love Sheffield. South/South West especially!

squilly Fri 11-Jul-08 10:01:20

Sheffield (but I'm biased). It's great because it grows with your children.

When they're young it has good quality theatres, great museums and art galleries, a high proportion of green spaces for a city and a great urban feel for shopping. You can shop indoors, outdoors, locally and it's all good.

When they're mid range, teenagers, it has great facilities on the door steps and lots of activities in the city. The fresh air angle is handled by the Peak District which is just on the doorstep.

When they're late teens, early twenties, it has a buzzing nightlife and is great for gigs.

It's a place where lots of students come and lots decide to settle. They move to Sheffield and never leave! I'm not born and bred myself, being a Midlander, so I'm not biased by birth.

When my dd was little I used to stand her on my living room windowsill (we have great views across the parks and cities) and tell her how lucky she is to live here. She's now 7 and I've never heard the word bored leave her lips. We're both looking forward to the summer hols here, because there's so much to do. I LOVE it!

Sorry...I waffled a bit. But I love Sheffield. South/South West especially!

squilly Fri 11-Jul-08 10:01:51

Sorry for posting twice. Lord, is there any way to shut this woman up???

Laugs Fri 11-Jul-08 10:12:39

I live in Newcastle.

Don't know too much about schools as DD still very young, but the lifestyle would definitely be hard to give up if we moved.

House prices are low, there is always something going on, loads of art galleries, museums etc, nearly all of which are free. Plenty of kids activities. I could take DD (20 months) to a different activity every day and spend around a tenner a week (in theory!).

The city is the right size for me - big enough that you never get bored, but small enough that you can walk everywhere. You occasionally bump into people you know, but not too often!

People are generally friendly (and I'm a southerner). There is of course crime, but that's part and parcel of living in a city. It doesn't feel like a scary place to be.

mupmum Fri 11-Jul-08 10:32:51

I've never had any problems being a southerner in Manchester, in fact was a little scared by how friendly people are when i moved. obviously all cities have areas of trouble/deprivation but we have great parks, shops, culture, peak district, and motorways to anywhere. i still miss london but trying to find a decent affordable babysitter for when we are down there and the nightmare of prams on the tube makes me think it would be difficult to make the most of it with kids.

Rhian82 Fri 11-Jul-08 11:05:28

DH and I both grew up in North Wales, I have to say neither of us liked it and would never move back there. Probably just the areas we were in, but no jobs, drugs, crime, run down, I got bullied at school for being a 'swot' ie actually working rather than preparing to drop out at 16...

We live in Bath now, and though we don't have any experience of what it's like for kids yet (24 weeks pregnant and counting) we really love it. It's got lots of city stuff without being too big, lovely walks around Widcombe etc, parks, playgrounds. Jobs-wise is actually the reason we moved here, I work in magazines and most jobs are in London, but there are several publishers in Bath, and in Bristol as well if I ever fancied a small commute.

We used to live in Exeter (I commuted to Bath for 2.5years, so now the ten-minute walk into work is bliss!) which I also loved for similar reasons. Bath's just smaller and more expensive!

giraffeski Fri 11-Jul-08 11:11:59

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MABS Fri 11-Jul-08 18:03:57

btw custy doesn't live in Brighton

rubyblue Fri 11-Jul-08 19:38:40

We're in Edinburgh which I think is a good place for children. I'm born and bred here (well suburbia) but spent my 20s in London and one of the reasons I moved home again was that I didn't want to settle in the big city.
Thank god we live centrally as I'm on mat leave and being able to walk everywhere - cafes, John Lewis (my 2nd home), art galleries, cinemas, child friendly pools museums, shops etc - has been a godsend. Can't imagine how new Mums cope if they are in an isolated village somewhere.
Primary schools are good but state secondaries in the city really vary. THere are loads of private schools here which really annoys me as I think it impacts on state schools.

SwissCheese Fri 11-Jul-08 19:58:09

I've lived in London, Kent and Glos, Somerset, Devon and now London. Somedays I would love to be in the Orkneys for the fresh sea air, wildlife, shores,little traffic and simplicity.

Elkat Sat 12-Jul-08 00:29:13

I'd say the small towns and villages within a half hour commute around swindon are pretty good bets. Cirencester is lovely, very good schools, nice soft play..., Marlborough is nice. Secondary school is not as good as others (such as Ciren or Chippenham) but a nice enough place. I also like Chippenham, not a pretty town, but a nice community, two fantastic secondary schools (one is reckoned to be the best non selective in the country - at least that's what they claim, but even if not true, still a pretty good school) and a lovely park. Used to live in Newbury - again some good schools, quaint little town. I very much liked living there. Wouldn't recommend Oxford. Lived there too. Schools are not particularly great and it looks lovely but as pps have said, there are some quite rundown areas, and its quite rough on a saturday night. The crime stats are not great. Where I live doesn't have the nice reputation, but the crime figures are sometimes half those of Oxford (particularly for muggings etc).

So I'd vote for any of those... Cirencester, Marlborough, Newbury, Chippenham .. but then I do like small towns - a greater sense of community!

colditz Sat 12-Jul-08 00:35:10

Do you know, before I even opened this thread I knew the consensus would be Surrey?

How in God's name could you bear the accent though?

notasheep Sat 12-Jul-08 00:36:48

How in Gods name can anyone live in Surrey- i USE togrin

Glad you agree, VanillaPumpkin, Suffolk's just great for all the reasons you mentioned. StarAnise take note! I found a job here relatively easily & DH is happy to do daily commute to London.

Beetroot Sat 12-Jul-08 07:54:44

not heard brilliant things about Suffolk -

My mate was asked if she had ever had a curry on a night out recently - she is 43

Beetroot Sat 12-Jul-08 07:55:39

in a twon with cities nearby

grin Sat 12-Jul-08 13:03:51

I grew up in the countryside of Northampton, now on the south coast. Beautiful to be surrounded by the downs and a short wander to the beach (not a fan of living in the town though), but now with my first gorgeous small one (16 mths) am starting to hanker after some of my own childhood jaunts, and to be nearer to my family. Is this normal behaviour for first time parents? Do I actually want to move back there or do I just want a bit hug from my Mum and Dad every now and again?

daftpunk Sat 12-Jul-08 13:21:29

surrey. good schools, close to london, safe(ish) lots to do.

notasheep Sat 12-Jul-08 16:40:46

Daftpunk- i think Surrey has;too much traffic,too much pollution,too many people and the small mindedness of earning loads of money makes you happysmile

daftpunk Sat 12-Jul-08 17:04:06

notasheep.. it's not all like that, and not everyone in surrey worships the god of money.

it has some beautiful open spaces, plenty of activities for children, close to london for museums etc, some of the best schools in the country, and is relatively safe.

i guess it's what you're used to. iv'e never been "up north" smile

agree with nigella, iBundle and Dottoressa- Harrogate!

Lots of green, open spaces, beautiful Valley Gardens park, an RHS garden, great shops (nice independents, too) it's in Yorkshire (major plus ) good schools,a theatre,conference centre for trade shows/ decent concert venue, beautiful countryside, Leeds 13 miles away for all the shops/cricket, York a short trip away for culture.

notasheep Sat 12-Jul-08 19:16:24

daftpunk-I have never been up north either!

I lived in Surrey for 17 years!!!!

However i will agree that the schools are excellent and great for nights out in Londongrin

ruth32 Sat 12-Jul-08 19:45:51

does anyone live in Scotland???? In Glasgow West End and trying to decide where to move to for schools/more space/garden etc etc..any ideas....

daftpunk Sat 12-Jul-08 19:54:14

grin notasheep, guessed you had lived here! ..... hope you prefer where you live now. smile

ScottishMummy Sat 12-Jul-08 19:59:20

Hyndland G12 VVNice, mostly tenement flats some houses also Broomhill and Partick.or Gt Western Road Area. or Bearsden, Milngavie, Lenzie (all East Dunabartonshire council) all got good schools slightly more suburban.But Glasgow has VG transport

Glasgow is a good city. i love it

some links glasgow non denominational primary schools

RC primary schools glasgow

Education Services link page

schools are usually organised by catchment but you can complete placement request if any places left over, can be competitive though

Tamlin Thu 17-Jul-08 15:45:31

Entertained to see that people would want to bring up children in Oxford, since we moved out of there once I got pregnant - crime rate too high, many of the schools far too dodgy, impossible to get a doctor's appointment.

We moved to a large village in Wiltshire twenty minutes from Marlborough, and have been happy so far - it feels a lot safer than Oxford, Reading and London. No waiting list at the local doctor, and everybody's friendly and interested in the baby - the pharmacist remembers his name, the librarian likes to play with him. I don't know what there is for teenagers to do locally, but given what the teenagers in Littlemore (where we lived in Oxford) used to get up to, it's got to be better than that...

Littleminky Fri 18-Jul-08 22:04:49

I'm a real northern lass, not in the least posh or obsessed with money but would still have to say Surrey. I love Leeds for it's honesty and it'll always be my 'home' but with two young children, 4 and 17 mnths there is sooooooooo much more to do here (in Guildford) with them, playgroups galore, brilliant free activities, brilliant paid for activities, great parks with fantastic playgrounds and paddling pools, amazing leisure centre, singalong groups, free play sessions and there is a real friendliness if you look. Yes, it is blummin' expensive and you do get some miserable people obsessed with themselves and their money, but hey we thought that if the kids can have a better quality of life both in the early years and in their education, we had to do it. Leeds has grown loads and for university plus age it's great for socialising - by that I mean clubbing, drinking and shopping (which is what you do at that age but hopefully grow out of!). There just really, really isn't enough for young kids to do, c'mon Leeds, sort it out.

Trini81 Fri 22-Aug-08 11:18:10

I live in South-East London, in one of the worst areas around!
EVERYDAY- there is more violence, whether it be a killing, knife crime, gunshot etc...
(I am serious when i say EVERYDAY!!!)

I bring my son up to be respectful, kind, considerate and helpful to others but i know im just dangling my little lamb to this crazed wolfpack!
They cant possibly be beaten, so the only way to keep safer, is to join them! (with horrible consequences!) This is something i DO NOT want for my son!

Just yesturday a group of approximately 15 boys, (aged about 13 years) was badly beating up 1 boy- of the same age! It was so bad that they were actually stamping on his head.
He was able to get up and make a run for it- screaming towards my partners car, who was shouting 'Get in, get in!'
The boy dived through the car window and my partner sped of and took him home!

I just keep thinking about my son growing up in this. He's only 8 and has already asked if i can go to America to buy him a bullet proof vest!
I cant possibly bring my child up in this!

But, because i am socialised into the 'London' way of life, going totally suburban, is not for me!
I'd like a mixture. Somewhere very similar to London but MUCH NICER!!!

Any suggestions????? PLEASE!

Umlellala Fri 22-Aug-08 11:29:03

ew, Surrey...

We like it here, in Stoke Newington smile

TheDuchessOfNorksBride Fri 22-Aug-08 11:54:02

I live on the Weald (Sussex end), which anna8888 has already described as immensely affluent. grin

Crime is low, neighbours are friendly, lots of community stuff going on. The primary schools are excellent, not sure about senior schools yet. There are grammar schools over the Kent border and very good private schools too. There are heaps of sports & activity clubs, the Ashdown Forest plus plenty of other green spaces, excellent adventure playgrounds and it's about 40 minutes drive to the coast.

AND... it's only 20 minutes to Lapland UK (though much, much longer if you travel by The Snowman). wink

GirlWithTheMouseyHair Fri 22-Aug-08 12:12:29

argh no suffolk is where poeple go to die! sorry but all my grandparents moved there upon retirement and all i think of is old people in places like woodbridge and second homers in alburgh...

I live in and love London but would like to live in a nicer area (am in streatham and it's a bit rubbish), primrose hill i love but it's a bit trendy and expensive, if I won the lottery I'd live off hapstead heath or clapham common or in richmond...would love the countryside somewhere but frankly I'd get hideously bored, and I can't and don't drive so that would be a pain...also my work means other than Manchester and Edinburgh, and maybe Brighton, I wouldn't get work that would put me on my professional map and keep me interested. Edinburgh would be lush actually...

My parents live in the south of france and the weather is not always better than here, the drivers are insane and you pay a fortune for healthcare

Canada I would consider if it weren't a bit boring and so damn cold

Celery Fri 22-Aug-08 12:19:53

The Isle of Wight, as long as it's not the summer holidays.

Weegiemum Fri 22-Aug-08 12:44:09

Glasgow Southside!

Pollok Park, Bellahouton Park, Maxwell Park ....

Good train and bus connections, good schools, lots of space, more rooms for your money!

We love it here.

SmallShips Fri 22-Aug-08 16:51:45

Agree with the Isle of Wight. Lived here for 15 years but in that time Ive lived in Edinburgh, Glasgow, Bradford and Plymouth too. I love it here.

decaffeinated Fri 22-Aug-08 20:38:58

Suffolk's great once you get beneath the surface!

There is definitely an element of old dodderiness, and some funny old traditions, plus a bit of small-town attitude in some places, but there are also some very cool, creative people up here, loads of open space, the beach, farms, gorgeous food, lovely schools, and it's peaceful. You can also get alot of property for your money.

Little bit lacking on the culture front but you can always go down to London for that, and Norwich is pretty buzzy, and occasionally there are good things going on in Ipswich.

Basically in Suffolk there's plenty of opportunity to create rather than consume, and I like that alot! Loads of great community spirit and family support networks too.

I'm originally from Surrey, and love it there for it's proximity to London, and things going on, but it's sooooo expensive to buy a house there. Having moved out to Suffolk (via 7 years in town), I'd say it's definitely worth a look, and actually a pretty underrated county.

Celery Sat 23-Aug-08 07:11:52

Love the IoW because it has a real island vibe, but is still very accessible to the mainland.

saramoon Sat 23-Aug-08 15:51:53

Loads of drug use among young people everywhere - def Cirencester!

Live in Cheltenham and love it, just depends on the area you live in within the town. Makes all the difference.

expatinscotland Sat 23-Aug-08 15:52:44

just about anywhere if you are rich

MrsMattie Sat 23-Aug-08 15:53:52

There is no perfect place. Children thrive in all sorts of different environments. I loved growing up in London and couldn't imagine bringing my kids up anywhere else.

AbbeyA Sat 23-Aug-08 16:10:58

I think the age of the DC makes a great difference. Lovely countryside places can be great for young children but there needs to be activities for teenagers. I know that there is a real drug problem in Cumbrian villages for example.
Nothing to do =boredom=drugs.
Somewhere like Surrey offers something for everyone. Someone mentioned Sheffield, which isn't attractive but has a lot going on and is right on the edge of the Peak District.

LittleMyDancingForJoy Sat 23-Aug-08 16:27:13

My front room seems to work quite well.

Ana1 Mon 15-Jun-09 04:28:14

Hello

Message for Trini81. I try to give the same educational moral and values to my son as you too, I agree with you but the only thing I don't agree is " How can you like London and see yourselve no other place?" (Schock)
Are you crazy, with so may violence of any shape or form as you pointed out.

And we should not alter our values and morals and always should give good life examples to our sons and daughters.

Ideias.......I live in Devon and from what I read from other people in here as well it's a pretty good life in here.

Lady, is not a Much Nicer place, IS WHAT IS BETTER FOR YOU KIDS, RIGHT AWAY.I SAY GET THE HELL OUT OF THERE RIGHT AWAY WITHOUT EVEN LOOKING BACK TWICE. ANYWHERE AROUND THE GLOBE, THAT'S BETTER AND SAFER.

THAT'S IS OUR MORAL RESPONSABILITY UNTIL THE DAY WE DIE, WE CHOOSE BY PREGANCY.

But the problem with most Parents in Britain is that they are very very selfish.

Lady, You Have to Go here is Better and Safe and Healthier For YOUR SON, if you are so much worried about the morals and values clash.

Not losing time writing in these blogs, (but asking, talking to your son)thinking if not, if yes or What You like but yes doing what is right for your family.

How can you even think of still staying in London, after telling us the truth about London's life. (Shock).

Because when you consciently and psychocologicaly make the choice of having a baby, you are not alone anymore, ISN'T ABOUT YOU ANYMORE and THAT IS the problem with THE PARENTS SOCIETY IN THIS COUNTRY NOW plus the disrespect for moral and educational values and discard of emotional ties.

That's for having CHILDREN HAVING CHILDREN, PEOPLE THAT CANT STOP THE UGLY ITCH FROM DOWN BELOW AND BEHAVE LIKE WOORES INSTEAD OF BEING HOME WITH THE CHILDREN, END UP HAVING CHILDREN LIKE RABBITS FROM DIFFERENT FATHERS, WHAT'S THIS!!!SCHOCK,
AND THE DRINK, OH LORD, DRINK WATER AND GO TO WORK, FOR GOD'S SAKE.
THAT'S ALL OVER UK.
UK, BRITAIN WAKE UP, IT'S POSSIBLE THAT NOBODY LEARNS AND WATCHES (SCHOCK), (ANGRY)

JEREMY KYLE.

There are more poorer countries and the Third World countries that HAVE ALL OF THAT and Make sure their future (kids) are better, more educated, morally better and ARE HAPPIER.

So for everyone is not the neighbourhood, city that you live BUT WHAT KIND OF EMOTIONAL, PSYCHOLOGICAL, MORAL, EDUCATIONAL, VALUES, HEALTHY AND HAPPIER WORLD YOU GIVE TO YOUR CHILD AND CHOOSE A BETTER COUNTRY, IF YOU CAN, WE ALL HAVE TOO, FOR THE SAKE OF OUR NEW FUTURE WORLD.

ANA BARROSO

Tambajam Mon 15-Jun-09 07:05:19

This is incredibly tough. I grew up in Somerset. Beautiful area, not far from the sea, edge of Exmoor. But drug problems were off the charts, teenage years can be excruciating, school options are non-existent and quality is poor.
Because of my own experiences I am very wary of rural childhoods. Massive generalization I know.

MrsMattie Mon 15-Jun-09 07:11:54

God, I could never leave London. I loved being a kid in London. It's like one giant playground - so much to see and do. I'm hoping my kids will have the same experience me and DH had.

RealityIsMyOnlyDelusion Mon 15-Jun-09 07:40:36

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IDidntRaiseAThief Mon 15-Jun-09 07:50:28

ana, thanks so for making me read this thread again , and wasting my time, before seeing it was an old one and that i'd posted on it last year.

I NEED to be LOOKING after my child and getting her off to school, not sitting here wasting my time on an internet forum.

jeeez grin

Buda Mon 15-Jun-09 08:13:02

Interesting thread. I read 2 pages before realising it is an old one. Prob still relevant though.

Question - how/why does someone apparently new come on here and find a thread from last year and post on it? Strange.

IDidntRaiseAThief Mon 15-Jun-09 08:27:49

yes most peculiar!

MrsSeanBean Mon 15-Jun-09 08:43:40

Wiltshire is good IMO - not remote enough to be cut off from the capital, but certainly far enough away to be relaxed, lots of lovely countryside

SkaterGrrrrl Mon 15-Jun-09 17:11:07

Surely each part of London is so different that London can't be swept aside with blanket generalisations?

Yes parts of South london and East london are rough, but you could happily raise a family in Barnes/ Stokey / Crouch End / East Dulwich - places with a friendly, safe village atmosphere but spitting distance to the West End etc for culture/ night life.

SkaterGrrrrl Mon 15-Jun-09 17:13:15

I grew up in a big city and something that turns me off about raising my kids in a rural area is the lack of diversity.

I want my children to see mixed race couples or gay couples and people from all over the world without batting an eyelid.

At the moment we're fixed on staying in London.

HLaurens Mon 15-Jun-09 20:52:53

I've lived in Leicester, London, and Oxford. But I was born in Edinburgh, and am delighted to now be back here.

We have a lovely spacious Victorian flat with great neighbours, the local schools are great, and there are endless activities for mums with small kids. And the festival. And the sea is nearby. And Scotland is not as overcrowded as the south and Midlands. And Edinburgh is so beautiful.

Can you tell I never want to move?!

wahwah1270 Mon 15-Jun-09 21:32:21

I lived for nearly 15 years in East Dulwich before deciding that i should do the correct thing and move to a commuter belt village to rear my (then unborn) baby. Once life post birth stopped being a total haze and i got out and about with her it dawned on me that i have nothing in common with people here and i realised i'm not cut out for village life. now we are looking for a house in se22 with our nearly one yearold. Enough said..

I believe that if mum is happpy baby is too and you should live whereever you are happy

KidsTunes Wed 17-Jun-09 13:33:22

I'm still grieving for city life after 4 and a half years in the countryside, but I've put so much blood, sweat and tears into our house I'm reluctant to move

zebramummy Mon 27-Jul-09 21:21:37

i have been looking for a while - went to barnes this weekend but the aeroplanes were AWFUL - why does nobody ever mention this? is there a website offering info on this (i am sure a MNer somewhere would have this info @ their fingertips).

squilly Mon 27-Jul-09 22:00:00

South West Sheffield. Has all the convenience of being near great shops and the pleasure of being on the edge of the Peak District. I love it. Especially during summer holidays. There's always so much to do

When DD was little, I used to stand her on our window ledge, overlooking the vista towards the city and tell her how lucky she was to be born here. It's a great city.

Elephantintheroom Mon 27-Jul-09 23:03:14

Ashbourne is lovely. Only real downside is being so far from the sea, but it is right by the peak district.

Empress2 Thu 01-Dec-11 16:31:57

Waking up this thread again
Anybody know anything about the docklands area...

Where is a good place to live in the docklands my daughter is soon 3!

EverybodyLovesWine Thu 01-Dec-11 21:17:47

The Isle of Man!! Excellent schools, low taxation, affluent, very safe, stunning countryside and beaches.

What more could you ask for?

(you have to ignore the problems of getting anywhere else, limited shopping and the island mentality of course!)

OdesssasMum Wed 11-Jan-12 18:25:08

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ladybird13 Thu 08-Mar-12 22:18:42

hello, I really want someone to tell me where is better for me to live, i'm a single mom and my daughter is 6 months old, i really can't decide whether i should live in surrey or Hertfordshire. Can someone please help me. thanks

fivegomadindorset Thu 08-Mar-12 22:20:49

Dorset can give NI a good run for its money but i love both.

emmyloo2 Fri 09-Mar-12 07:15:20

Perth, Western Australia. I love it here. Born and raised here and moved away for many years but now back home. Wonderful place for children - weather is fantastic, even in the dead of winter, beaches are beautiful and there are heaps of parks etc to ride and run around in. I love being able to be outdoors all the time. We live 10 minutes drive from the city where my DH and I work and 10 minutes from the beach.

But for me it's home where my family is so this is probably why I love it so much. My parents are 12 minutes drive away and my DH's are 15 minutes away, so we get to see them several times a week and I love that for my DS - to have both sets of grandparents so involved in his life.

PriscillaQueenOfTheDesert Fri 09-Mar-12 07:55:07

I'm dreaming of the day we get a house on the Isle of Wight.

That's where I want to bring my children up.

Roxs27 Thu 21-Feb-13 16:00:11

Looking for advice on Cambridge and Bristol? Possibly moving there from Canada with my teenager son who is 14. Can you tell me about each place, which place is best in regards of low crime, better schools, housing, and making friends? Thank you very much, all or any information will be greatly appreciated!!

bunchofposy Thu 21-Feb-13 19:28:42

Quick reply, but I have lived in Bristol and have family in Cambridge. Both lovely places. Not good schools in Bristol though (or didn't used to be), unless you go private. Lovely, relaxed place to live though (depending on which part you live in). West country is great. One of the best sixth form colleges in the country in Cambridge. I really like it there. Has a really buzzy interesting feel to it. Cambridgeshire very flat!

rrreow Fri 22-Feb-13 16:55:30

Roxs27 you might have better luck creating a new topic rather than replying to such an old one. This way people might not actually see your post (as there are 8 pages of posts before it).

xXSharonXx Sun 17-Nov-13 18:43:47

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I think the OP will either long have moved or never be moving. Either way doubt the services of a relocation agency are needed here.........

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