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Is leaving a baby to cry and cot death associated? Emmerdale seem to be suggesting that it is!

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MrsPuddleduck · 21/02/2008 13:46

I am a bit shocked by this storyline.

I was not aware that leaving you baby to cry could lead to cot death. I did this to an extent with both of my children.

I think it is a bit irresponsible of them if it is not true.

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Iklboo · 21/02/2008 13:52

Soaps are notorious for completely falsifying things that happen

NOt related to babies but when Ian Beale went bankrupt they had bailiffs charging into his place and him seeing the Official Receiver and a panel personally like some kind of judgement. Utter CRAP

If they are 'dramatising' they should at least put a disclaimer or helpline number at the end of the show

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babyinarms · 21/02/2008 13:52

As far as i'm aware, no connection.
They should get their fact straight before airing these things...haven't seen this episode mind you.

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MAMAZON · 21/02/2008 13:54

if thats what they are trying ti insinuate then im quite sure a rather pug faced baby rearing 2expert" will haev something to say about it.

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crokky · 21/02/2008 13:56

I once heard that a baby that is routinely upset for ages and ages will produce some kind of "mood chemical" or something like in the brain that which can be detrimental to health. Don't know if it is true or just something one person though of. Think the storyline is unnecessary and awful anyway.

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hunkermunker · 21/02/2008 14:05

How old's the baby? [don't watch Emmerdale]

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MrsPuddleduck · 21/02/2008 14:06

I agree with you Croky - I am considering not watching tonights' episode at all (even though I watch it religiously).

I think it is really irresponsible of them to link a connection if it isn't true.

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DaddyJ · 21/02/2008 14:06

TV producers seem to have well and truly twigged
that parenting issues make for smashing viewing figures -
the more controversial the better.

Is it on tonight then?

And what kind of 'crying it out' is it?
Part of sleep training or systematic neglect?

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ggglmpp · 21/02/2008 14:07

The foundation for sudden infant death said this in their latest magazine....

Emmerdale helps boost cot death awareness
14 February 2008
On 21 February 2008, Emmerdale viewers will be shocked and saddened by the sudden and unexpected death of baby Daniel, the 7-month-old son of Laurel and Ashley Thomas. The storyline illustrates the devastation and confusion felt by parents who have been through the experience, and helps raise awareness of the importance of support and research.

Here Charlotte Bellamy (Laurel) and John Middleton (Ashley) talk about the challenges of the role...

Other than a few heated words with the in-laws, life for the Thomas?s couldn?t be better. Reverend Ashley, wife Laurel and baby Daniel are the perfect happy family and this is none more visible than when they are all together having lunch, while baby Daniel is taking a nap. But within minutes their lives are shattered, when Laurel checks on Daniel to find him not breathing.


FSID helped Charlotte Bellamy, who plays Laurel, research the part by putting her in touch with a number of parents whose baby died unexpectedly: ?What struck me was that, despite the fact that they had been through such a devastating and traumatic ordeal, they were very open about their experiences, and focused on not wanting other parents to have to go through the same thing.?


The episode when Daniel dies is very powerful and will undoubtedly increase awareness of cot death. Hopefully it will also direct parents towards getting support, both in terms of bereavement support and safe sleep advice. John Middleton, who plays Daniel?s father Ashley, agrees: ?For me the purpose of soaps is to tackle the issues people face, and to put a hand out to them and to say you?re not alone. We felt a huge sense of responsibility to portray the story and emotions as accurately as possible, and hope we have done okay.?


?Throughout the filming, the crew were incredibly supportive,? John explains. ?I remember one particular scene where, at the end, Laurel is cradling Daniel and Ashley is standing behind her in shock. After the take I looked round and every single member of the crew was silent and in tears. In fact, throughout filming, the scenes were so upsetting that during breaks Charlotte and I couldn?t even look at each other.?


For Charlotte, who plays Laurel, tackling such a traumatic and emotive issue was a challenge and meant that her own family were often in her thoughts during filming: ?I have two young children, one of which is only a few months older than Daniel, so it was difficult not to get personally involved. Obviously, as a parent, cot death is something that is at the back of your mind all of the time, and every parent?s worst nightmare. John agrees: ?Yes, you would often find yourself so drained by the story that you would start to think and get upset about it at home. Although we have absolutely no knowledge what it?s like to go through that situation, the fact that we are both parents helped because we could think about how we would feel if something happened to our own children.?


Charlotte and John agree that ?it has been a fantastic privilege to do this storyline and it has certainly made us think about the issues surrounding sudden infant death, and the enormous ongoing impact it has on those affected.?

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WingsofanAngel · 21/02/2008 14:12

I thought the crying thing was more to do with Laurel's mum saying he needed to learn to settle himself.

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MrsPuddleduck · 21/02/2008 14:20

One of the characters is being told by her mother that she shouldn't pick up her baby every time he cries and that leaving him will not do him any harm but that he will learn to settle himself. Not bad advice imo.

But then to immediately follow this with a resulting cot death is a bit harsh imo. I don't disagree with it as a storyline in itself it is the fact that they are suggesting that the two are linked which is wrong.

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DaddyJ · 21/02/2008 14:36

'Vicar Ashley and wife Laurel face a true test of faith this week when their beloved little boy Daniel dies of sudden infant death syndrome. The heartbreaking storyline unfolds when the baby starts crying during a family lunch. Hilary suggests he?s just having a bad dream, so Laurel carries on eating. But when she heads upstairs later to check on him, she discovers his lifeless body. Distraught dad Ashley desperately tries to revive his son before the paramedics arrive, but sadly it?s too late. Gulp.'

I see your point, willmouse.
However, the way this storyline is reported (just had a quick browse on Google, e.g. article in The Sun) has been pretty responsible
with the focus being firmly on SIDS awareness.

Rest assured, there are a dozen things that might be related to SIDS
but CIO is not one of them.

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bubblerock · 21/02/2008 19:04

Is anyone watching this tonight?

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NAB3wishesfor2008 · 21/02/2008 19:07

I am half watching it. I was shocked when I saw it on the front of a tv mag. I wish they wouldn't give things away like that.

I don't want to watch it but can't not iykwim.

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bubblerock · 21/02/2008 19:11

Yep, same here

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BreeVanDerCampLGJ · 21/02/2008 19:14

Oh darling Girl, I was hoping you wouldn't see this.

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morningpaper · 21/02/2008 19:18

I don't like mentioning this but I had a friend who lost a baby on their first night of CIO (at 8 months)

So it does happen

But obv. death certificate just said cot death - no one is going to want to beat parents at that point in their life

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kiskideesameanoldmother · 21/02/2008 19:24

The end result of popular forms of sleep training is that it seems to condition babies to go into the 4th stage of sleep for longer periods of time and more often than their neurological development seem ready to cope with.

The human infant is born with the least developed brain of any primate.

it is suggested that it is during this sleep phase that some babies just don't start to breath again as a more neurologically developed child would. it is likened to dying from nothing because coroners rule out all other possible reasons for death in order to arrive at SIDS in a post mortem.

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BreeVanDerCampLGJ · 21/02/2008 19:25

ggglmpp

Walk away from this thread, soon it will be overrun.

Remembering Darling Maude.

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SparklyDYSONGothKat · 21/02/2008 19:27

sorry whats CIO mean?

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PuppyMonkey · 21/02/2008 19:34

Crying it out?

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NAB3wishesfor2008 · 21/02/2008 19:58

God, that was hard.

Just sent Dh to check on the baby.

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MiaWallace · 21/02/2008 20:03

heartbreaking but I thought it was very well acted.

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mindy26 · 21/02/2008 20:03

im not 1 fr crying at the tv but my god i was inconsoleable through that, went through to check my dd and just stood staring for so long!!

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kerryk · 21/02/2008 20:04

was very heartbreaking

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MissyTheFlouncer · 21/02/2008 20:07

just such a sad thing and how utterly devestating. i have read lots about this the last week and each time i have read it it has been featured highlighting the issues of sids.
i dont think i will sleep tonight

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