MMR or seperate jabs which ones would you give ?

[robinredbreast]

hi yes dd has had all the vaccinations so far and is now 6 months, i know they do not have the MMR until 12 months ish?
so im doing reserch now trying to decide whever its better to get the single vaccinations
i don't mind paying

[Seona1973]

both my los (4 year dd and 15 month ds) have had MMR with no horrible reactions.

[GreenGlassGoblin]

honestly? MMR. Without a single qualm. But then I fully believe it to be safe, have no autism in the family and no serious allergies either. Do you have a particular reason for being wary of the MMR?

[scorpio1]

MMR

[Elphaba]

MMR - all 3 children had it with no reaction whatsoever

Only you can decide for your own children though

[robinredbreast]

yes someone i know-not family
has three children,the eldest two had the mmr and after having it stop smiling and responding and are now autistic [this was about 10 years ago before, there was alot of bed press about MMR-well i think before there was alot of bad press about MMR]
the drs say they cant put it down to them having the mmr but it was after having the mmr they stopped smiling and stuff, there where doing allsorts before

there third child had seperate vacinations and is fine, although these had to be imported from abroad unlicensed as about 10 years ago i don't think you could go to clinics and have them privately,as i think you now can

has anyone been to one of the private clinics?
if so which one? and would you reccomened them?

i will def get dd vaccinated this is the only one im worried about

does anyone know anysite where i can do some more reserch?

[Unfitmother]

MMR

[robinredbreast]

yes dd will def be vaccinated with either the MMR or seperate vaccination

[robinredbreast]

yes dd will def be vaccinated with either the MMR or seperate vaccination

[scorpio1]

the bad press from MMR needs more delving in to.

the study that everyone got this bad press from was done by a drugs company that supplied the single vaccines on a very small study (in the 20 something number) in a different country. it is the only study (i think) that has 'proved' the claims.

[yurt1]

The best book is Richard Halvorsen's book "The truth about vaccinations'

He is an NHS GP. It's not scaremongering, and he spends quite a few chapters on the MMR and the singles.

The accepted (if you're having a sensible discussion about it) figure is that about 8 to 10% of children with autism have had their autism triggered by the MMR. I know 2 children who almost certainly did. One for example had massive seizures within 24 hours of the MMR, ended up in ITU and is now severely autistic. He was developing normally before the MMR and his paediatrician (who he still sees) has said that he believes in his case MMR was probably the trigger.

90% of children with autism have not had it triggered by the MMR, although other viruses may certainly play a role in some cases. Herpes is well accepted for example, as is maternal rubella caught in the very first weeks of pregnancy. The medical profession is usually more than happy to accept that viruses can trigger autism, (actually if you talk privately many are more than happy to agree that for some children MMR and other vaccinations have been the trigger- they just don't/can't say it publically).

[robinredbreast]

yes normally i don't read buy into the media hype, i usually think its bullshit

think its just because someone i know children developed autisum after it, but it could just be a horrible coincidence.
although it seems funny that there 2 eldest children where smiling and allsorts before then stoped

[cornsilk]

MMR

[robinredbreast]

all thanks for that yurt
thankyou for taking the time to post that to me

im gonna see if i can hold of that book

yurt did you have your dc vaccinated with MMR

[TheRealMrsOsborne]

MMR without a doubt and i have immunised hundreds maybe thousands of children with MMR without hesitation.

[yurt1]

A regression is usually fairly easy to spot. Especially when it coincides with a hospital admission (as the 2 MMR cases I know of did). DS1's regressions was much gentler, but he lost words and attention skills first, then speech sounds, at the same time as he developed obvious gut problems. IN his case the MMR was not involved, and the factors we think were involved are too complicated to go into here (and I wouldn't anyway tbh) but lets just say we avoided vaccinations for ds2 and ds3 (along with a whole host of other stuff- especially for ds3 who has the same gut problems as ds1) and both are fine.

I linked earlier today to this article aout MMR and autism by Donna Williams which I think is a pretty good summary of the various issues.

[yurt1]

robinredbreast. ds1 is fully vaccinated, ds2 and ds3 have had nothing at all. When ds3 was in hospital last year following a seizure there was some initial surprise expressed by doctors followed by surprising (to me) support for the decision we'd made following further discussion. I would like ds2 and ds3 to get a tetanus jab, but they're not being given a whole bunch of other jabs at the same time so we need to wait until they are 10 for the single (or DT) tetanus jab.

[yurt1]

If you search on previous threads rrb a few people on here whose children have regressed following the MMR have shared their stories over the years.

[berolina]

ds1 had the first MMR, which he was not adversely affected by, but will not be having the booster. ds2 will be having singles. There are factors in my family health background which make me wary of MMR - IMO a small risk but not one I feel comfortable taking. I regretted MMRing ds1, although he was fine.

[robinredbreast]

i just feel so torn, like i just don;t know what to do for the best

[robinredbreast]

yurt thanks for the link

[robinredbreast]

im also worried about the single vaccinations, although prob less so than MMR

[slalomsuki]

Single jabs here for me so I guess I am in the minority.

What gets me is that the GP's are paid to give the MMR and mine certainly wouldn't have a discussion with me about the pros and cons in a sensible manner.

I would in academia so did some research via the medical press and yes there some issues about the statistics used for all parties in the discussion but the hounding of the doctor who published the study initially is a bit OTT. It would have all died a death by now and been forgotten had the government not kept hounding him out of the country.

DS1 reacted to the single measles jab and when I spoke to my GP about it she said she had never heard of someone reacting to the MMR yet the same GP gave me some papers published by the manufacturers that said up to 10% of children have some form of reaction....from snotty nose and fever to more serious

I say do what you are comfortable with

[robinredbreast]

i didnt know gp get paid to give it, but when i think of it of course they do

[slalomsuki]

They are given targets of how many of the babies they have registered with them that take up all vaccinations including the MMR. If they exceed the target they get a bonus

[yurt1]

I've always found my GP's good tbh. The one's I've discussed it with anyway. My last GP who I really respected (but he left and went off to do locum work instead) originally thought there wasn't a link - we had some erm exchanges about it but by the time he left for various reasons he'd changed his mind and he tried to help me find a single tetanus jab.

I do however, think that the vast majority of GPs know bugger all about autism. The only one I've met who had any idea at all was the one who left.