9 day old baby keeps bringing his milk up.

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Writerwannabe83 Sun 30-Mar-14 16:54:15

Hi everyone, my 9 day old baby is exclusively breast fed and throughout the day he has continually been bringing up his milk. The worst though has been just now when after his feed he had 4 episodes of vomiting and bringing up large volumes of his feed. I know people say it always looks more than it is, but I'm pretty sure the whole feed has come back up. Whenever he is sat up after a feed he brings some up and whenever he is winded he brings some up. He also brings milk up when he's asleep. It isn't a projectile form of vomiting but his whole mouth will fill with milk and it will just pour out.

I'm trying not to panic but it's my first and I have no idea what I'm doing really.

I'm going to wake him two hourly for feeds to ensure he's getting something in him but I don't even know if uh is is the right thing to do. At what point do I need to start worrying that something is wrong?

wheresthelight Sun 30-Mar-14 22:26:46

Definitely sounds like your milk flow is too fast for him to deal with, try expressing a little before you feed him to let down the pressure a little bit and see if that helps.

But I wouldn't worry too much about his weight, they tend to keep more down than you think! Dd had a really nasty virus which caused lactose intolerance for about 3 weeks and caused her to vommit a massive amount! iI was convinced that she must be like the magic porridge pot there was that much but she maintained her weight so she must have kept some down!

Hope you get some sleep!! If you are really worried ring uour out of hours service they will always see such a young baby!

VioLetsMum1 Mon 31-Mar-14 00:47:42

I had this with my baby. I think it was reflux. In the end health visitor wouldn't do anything about it and told us not to worry just keep upping her milk. We did that she struggled to put on weight loads and even though healthy was still below average on the centile chart. I chose to wean her at 4 months because she just couldn't take the milk. Best decision I ever made to go with what my gut told me and not what the health visitor said (really made her angry, threatened us with ss over it, as said we were neglecting her by weaning her so early. But I only stuck to baby rice and mushed up rusks in milk.) Soon as we weaned her the vomiting stopped and she put on loads of weight. My tip for you if you can't get anyone to do anything about it and have to live with it for a while, don't bother with baby bibs anymore. Get some tea towels on the floor and next to you where ever your sat for any splashes, then use one instead of a bib on baby. I found it alot easier to maintain then. Best of luck x

Writerwannabe83 Mon 31-Mar-14 09:33:46

Morning everyone,

We actually had a really good night : he fed well and woke himself for feeds in appropriate time frames. He had a few little possety moments but no vomits. Also had more wet and dirty nappies.

I'm feeling much calmer now - thanks for all being there to offer reassurance and advice thanks

NorthEasterlyGale Mon 31-Mar-14 09:55:23

Glad you had a good night smile

Dannygirl Mon 31-Mar-14 10:05:22

DS2 is 7 weeks old today and we had exactly the same thing as you describe at around 3/4 weeks. I did take him to be checked out for my own peace of mind (we are lucky to have an NHS walk in paediatric service near us, or you could go to paediatric a&e) but they said as long as he is doing plenty of wet and dirty nappies, gaining weight and doesn't seem in lots of discomfort, he is probably just taking too much milk (I have a fast let down too). It lasted only about a week in total, and although he still brings milk up after every feed it's much more like possetting than vomiting now. Hopefully it will sort itself out soon and congratulations on your baby.

wheresthelight Mon 31-Mar-14 10:27:40

Glad you had a good night hun!! Hopefully the worst is over but make sure you get him checked over just in case xxx

Writerwannabe83 Mon 31-Mar-14 12:31:04

He's continued to do well this morning and I'm feeling much happier.

I've got the midwife and the Health visitor coming tomorrow so I will discuss it with them. I'm looking forward to getting him weighed as in hospital he lost just under 9% of his birth weight in 48 hours. He was weighed again when he was 6 days old and had gained 5oz which was brilliant so I can't wait to see how much more he has put on. I'd love it if he was back up to his birth weight - hopeful I know.

MigGril Mon 31-Mar-14 14:14:22

Bring up small amounts of milk can be quit normal in babies. I think what you've got to remember is that it's not the same as being sick as an adult which is wholly unpleasant and as long as he's not unhappy with it and its only small amount of mainly fresh milk. he's still giving lots of wet and pooy nappies. stools should be yellow and runny at this age. Then it's probably within in normal.

Only if it's large amounts of milk needing you both to change cloths, he's really upset with it and his nappies are not nice and wet then you should worry. This may also effect weight gain.
It can be a worry too start with but babies guts often aren't fully mature and bring up milk when little until they mature fully is normal. keeping him upright for 20-30minutes after a feed should help. It may also be a slight over supply in you to start with which should settle down in time.

Writerwannabe83 Mon 31-Mar-14 14:36:06

I think I spoke too soon.

He just had another feed and then the vomiting started again - he has bought up lots of fresh milk!!

I think he's just over feeding!!

It was his fourth feed in 4 hours and each time he has a feed he is at my breast for 15-25 minutes and sucks continually.

The feed I have just given (13.30pm) was his 8th feed since midnight and when I compare that to yesterday his 8th feed was at 20.15pm!! So he's 7 hours ahead because he's been feeding every 2 hours today.

If I can express 70mls in 10 minutes then I dread to think how much milk he is downing in his 25 minute feeds?? Let alone doing it two hourly.

He's really happy in himself, his nappies are normal.....it's just so worrying though.

matana Mon 31-Mar-14 15:48:26

Ds was like this until he went onto solids. Completely normal and happy in every other way, put on weight etc. Is your ds putting on weight? It seems odd to say but in some weird way it seems to have strengthened his stomach. He's now 3.4 and has never vomited (or even had diarrhoea) since I weaned him! Does your ds sound uncomfortable when he's asleep at night? Could be just that he's a bit refluxy. Please try not to worry too much.

ApricotExpat Mon 31-Mar-14 15:55:00

Congratulations on your baby!

How projectile is the vomit? It probably is reflux etc, but ds1 had pyloric stenosis and all the HV/drs said it was reflux until they actually saw him vomit. It's a distinctive distance if it's PS. More common in boys and first borns I believe...

Even if it was, (which it probably isn't) it's a v v small op.

Hopefully you're reading this when he's kept a big feed down and there's no problem anymore.

Good luck!

Writerwannabe83 Mon 31-Mar-14 16:37:34

It isn't projectile in that it shoots out a distance - it just pours out his mouth and en down the front of his face and clothes. We bathed him afterwards and then he was screaming as though he wanted more milk and I just didn't know what to do....what was the point if he is just going to bring it back up because he's full? I managed to rock him off to sleep and I'm going to wake him at 5 for a feed and see how he goes - if he starts being sick again then I will ring the GP.

MigGril Mon 31-Mar-14 16:51:47

Try not to count to much how many feeds he's having. You would expect at this age at lest 10-12 feeds in 24 hours some will have less some will have more. And as they regulate the flow at the breast themselfs the amount taken at each feed tends to vary quite a lot to even if the time spent there is the same.
Trust him to take the amount he needs when he needs is, timings and patterns are going to change from one day to the next at this age.
Which is why feeding on cue is so important to start with too, establish your supply.

MigGril Mon 31-Mar-14 17:03:00

If he does have a touch of reflux he will want to feed more often though.
The reason being is that the acid is uncomfortable, breastmilk is an anitacid so it's soothing.
If he's very upset with it they may offer something like infant gaviscon, which is tricky to give a breastfed baby. It can cause constipation and it generally isn't any more effective then keeping them upright for 30 minutes after each feed.
There are more effective medications that can be given if he's more upset with it and causing more problems.

GingerRodgers Mon 31-Mar-14 17:08:27

Pyloric stenosis does tend to be proper projectile vomiting and the milk is different too, sour (not just bits in) and sometimes a funny colour.

He's probably just wolfing down your lovely milk and the feed often at this point to increase your supply (!!).

Just keep an eye on him, keep towels around you and lots of muslins/wet wipes.

Are you feeling ok?

Writerwannabe83 Mon 31-Mar-14 17:14:33

I'm not too bad - just quietly fretting about him.

I just put him to the breast but he didn't feed for very long, maybe just under 15 minutes. He is now asleep at the breast and I'm so reluctant to move him in case it triggers a vomit.....but at the same time I know babies have to be winded. I just hate this constant feeling of not knowing what to do for the best. Part of me wants to wake him and encourage him to feed again so he doesn't get dehydrated (based on the quantity of milk he bought up following all his earlier vomits) but then the other part of my brain tells me to stop trying to get him to drink because he'll just be sick again.

Being a parent is too hard - there's so much self doubt sad

dannydyerismydad Mon 31-Mar-14 17:26:42

Don't worry about the winding - the best way to wind a baby is to keep them straight and upright to allow the air to surface - rubbing backs isn't the most effective way. This is why colicy babies are often calmer with their dads - dads have naturally straighter bodies so can hold them in a more natural position.

DS used to vomit torrents of milk. I was convinced he would waste away, but he piled the weight on. He was just battling against my oversupply and fast let down.

Biological nurturing or laid back breastfeeding worked well for us, as he could control the flow better.

It also usually gets better over the course of a day as your milk gets fattier and thicker as the day goes on and seems to stay down better.

From a practical point of view, I used to do nappy changes before feeds - lifting a bum in the air would tip milk back out, and wear only underwear at home - skin is easier to clean than clothes.

If it gets bad or you're worried, always seek medical advice though.

Writerwannabe83 Mon 31-Mar-14 17:33:51

We'll I've just sat him up, he burped, and although he didn't vomit, milk started dribbling out of his mouth. His dad isn't worried but he's a very laid back guy, me on the other hand am spending my time thinking off all the worst case scenarios sad

GingerRodgers Mon 31-Mar-14 19:46:58

My dd was exactly the same and I worried so much. She was like a milk fountain and cluster fed for a good 4 hours each night then brought half of it back up again
She never lost any weight, was born on the 98th centile and stayed there for a good 4-5 months.
They can overeat very easily as they comfort at the breast too. They just let the excess come back up.

You'll be here in a couple of months advising another new mum on the best clothes to wear to camouflage milk stains wink

Writerwannabe83 Mon 31-Mar-14 20:29:59

Thanks Ginger, I have just fed him again but I had to wake him for it. He only fed for 15 minutes again, though. I know that's a perfectly acceptable time. I think I'm driving myself mad with worry. He's dribbled up a little bit again but it was when he was pushing/straining. Normally I leave him to sleep overnight and just wait for his cries to wake me for feeds but I'm thinking that tonight I'll wake him 3 hourly for feeds so I can monitor things.

wheresthelight Mon 31-Mar-14 21:55:01

Good luck hun and please try not to worry (as first timer. I worry about everything!)

Let us know what the mw and hv say xx

Writerwannabe83 Mon 31-Mar-14 23:04:51

Well he woke himself up for his 11pm feed, which I'm just about to give, and he has just done a massive wee on my DH smile So at least I know he isn't particularly lethargic or dehydrated....

wheresthelight Mon 31-Mar-14 23:10:11

Haha bless him!!! My dd did that to my mum atvthe weekend!

Writerwannabe83 Tue 01-Apr-14 13:13:09

The Midwife and HV have just left and they were both very reassuring. His weight gain is going well and he has put on another 5oz in 5 days. That's a total of 10oz in 10 days smile

He's only 2oz away from getting back up to his birth weight now smile

NorthEasterlyGale Tue 01-Apr-14 13:39:50

Great news!

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