Children and pubs

(98 Posts)
carpediem70 Thu 17-Jan-13 12:55:37

Hi, new here.
I live near a pub and watching out of my window today I have seen three people turn up to the pub to eat with under 5s.
What do people think about taking children into pubs??

aufaniae Sun 20-Jan-13 21:31:52

Dangerous?! PSML!

DS had his first birthday in a pub in Hackney, London! We had one section of the pub to ourselves, the pub put on organic food aimed at very young children, and we had a lovely time! What was dangerous about that?

Of course people shouldn't have DCs with them if they intend to get drunk - wherever that is. But as you say, different ones have different atmospheres. including many, many lovely city pubs, and some absolute dives in the countryside!

mancshell I also think you would benefit from a nice trip to a decent pub, in the city!

LadyWidmerpool Sun 20-Jan-13 20:20:48

City pubs aren't dangerous FFS.

mancshell Sun 20-Jan-13 16:45:17

i think if your going to the pub to get drunk then you should get a sitter not take them in a pub, but dining isnt too bad, it depends what kind of pub it is,
different ones have a very different atmosphere dont they,
country pubs are nice and you can always take kids there, but these city pubs are far to dangerous for children, xx

aufaniae Sun 20-Jan-13 12:26:20

carpediem I think you should perhaps spend some time in a nice pub. You seem to have very odd ideas about what they're like.

Pubs (believe it or not) are not all full of people getting steadily drunk at all hours of the day.

For Sunday lunch for example, many pubs have a very welcoming atmosphere, and the focus is on food and good company rather than getting bladdered.

May pubs down this way (Sussex) actually have brilliant play equipment like climbing frames out the back, and kids love going to them on warm days.

"The belief seems to be that exposure will socialise children into a more Mediterranean attitude to alcohol and that the social environment of the pub aids the teaching of good behaviour and manners."

I find this very odd tbh! If we decide to take a drive to a country pub for Sunday lunch in the summer, I'm thinking of eating some nice food, having one glass of a nice beer or wine, and whether the pub has a nice field or play equipment for the kids to run around in is a major factor.

Teaching the kids manners or a Mediterranean attitude couldn't be furthest from my mind! "Will the kids enjoy it, will the food be good?" That's what I'm thinking!

DoubleLifeIsALifeHalved Sun 20-Jan-13 12:04:08

Please share your views, as you have asked others to share theirs it seems reasonable to ask.

Why the insistence on a cultural change, vs a societal change? And why are you unsure whether this is a beneficial change? What is your thinking?

And just as a last question - is there any particular reason you decided to draw an analogy between posters on this thread & hamsters in a box? Did you mean that to come out the way it sounds?

aufaniae Sun 20-Jan-13 11:30:24

Going to the pub for Sunday lunch seems very English to me!

We used to do this when I was little. That hasn't changed! The pubs have, they're much nicer now, and more suitable for children.

(I've deliberately not said British btw, as licensing laws different in Scotland in particular)

skaen Sun 20-Jan-13 08:32:39

It dies seem to be the norm. What you haven't shown is that there is a cultural change. Just because you didn't do something when your child was little or when you were, doesn't mean that lots if other people weren't brought up with parents who would go to a pub fairly regularly.

At least children now won't be in a smoke filled haze. ( happy memories of pub gardens 30 years ago with a bottle of fizzy orange and a packet of crisps).

shockers Sun 20-Jan-13 08:32:08

We live in a market town that is full of old fashioned pubs. I quite often meet friends (with our children) in one of them. Sometimes we eat, sometimes we just chat while the children have a game of pool (all 8 yrs +). I personally think it's good that our children get to see the pub as a social place where Mum orders a coffee and chats with her mates, rather than a place to go and get trashed when you're 16 18.

rubyrubyruby Sun 20-Jan-13 08:18:09

The majority do it = the norm?

Yes - if the majority do it then it is the norm surely.
If the majority do it it doesn't necessarily mean its right but it is the norm. It's up to each individual to decide if its right for them and most people on this thread obviously think it is.

brettgirl2 Sun 20-Jan-13 07:41:15

I thought the thread was going to be around spending all day in the pub getting completely plastered while your children sit in the corner eating crisps. hmm

LadyWidmerpool Sun 20-Jan-13 07:26:34

And yes if the majority do something that is usually considered the norm! I am not a hamster but I do like a pub lunch. I clean up after my baby, shoosh her if she's noisy and I tip. She loves her food and studying the people around her. So we all win.

LadyWidmerpool Sun 20-Jan-13 07:20:38

Yes, it is the norm in my experience in that families go to family friendly pubs. They don't tend to go to non family friendly pubs and they aren't there at 10pm at night. We have found pubs very welcoming and haven't had any issues with other patrons.

LtEveDallas Sun 20-Jan-13 07:04:30

I want to know why OP keeps going on about 'a cultural change' when the answers on this thread don't show that at all?

ZuleikaD Sun 20-Jan-13 06:06:04

Yes, I think if carpe wants to not be thought of as grumpy she should stop being rude to the people posting on her thread.

sydlexic Sat 19-Jan-13 15:50:26

My only objection to pubs was the smoking which has now been removed. But I guess if it was the pub on shameless then no. Country gastro pub in next village then yes.

LoopsInHoops Sat 19-Jan-13 15:49:10

I think you should take a look at your abrasive posting style and think about why you have been labelled as grumpy.

FWIW I have always taken my kids to pubs, for meals and drinks. Probably more than once a week, since birth.

I have always been in pubs as a child too.

Hulababy Sat 19-Jan-13 15:48:36

We have taken DD to pubs to eat lunch/dinner a fair bit ever since she was tiny. Have taken her to many types of pubs, bars, eateries with no problems. She's 10 now and still seems pretty fine with it all.

5madthings Sat 19-Jan-13 15:48:14

The pubs I takje my children don't don't have people rolling around drunk or bad language.

Its nothing to do with trying to be Mediterranean! But I grew up going out to restaraunts and pubs with my parents so it was normal to me.

Are you saying its a bad thing? Your point isn't very clear?

Its something I did and I see it as fine for my children, I don't care what others do or don't do, I do what works for my family.

OwlCatMouse Sat 19-Jan-13 15:43:07

Wtf have hamsters in a box got to do with anything? confused

carpediem70 Sat 19-Jan-13 15:41:51

For real? Really?
The consensus seems to be that pubs and kids are fine following a cultural change.
The belief seems to be that exposure will socialise children into a more Mediterranean attitude to alcohol and that the social environment of the pub aids the teaching of good behaviour and manners.
And amazingly just asking the question if pubs and children were a good mix labels me old, grumpy, sexist etc despite not actually being affected by the practice.
Does nobody question anything because the majority take a particular view?
The majority do it = the norm?
Fascinating, like hamsters in a box.

5madthings Fri 18-Jan-13 22:11:25

We go to pubs quite often for lunch, I had ds1 when I was at uni so he spent a lot of time in the student bar, the non-smoking one as this was 13yrs ago. I would sit and chat with friends, he would have a feed, it was fine smile

BrianButterfield Fri 18-Jan-13 22:07:27

DS has probably been to the pub at least once a week from when he was about four days old! Usually to eat but occasionally for a quick drink (although he's easier to entertain if there's food involved). He's 18 months so if we want to eat out without feeling like we have to keep him silent our choices are family-friendly/Wetherspoons pub, supermarket cafe or MacDonald's. And you can get wine in the pub, so it's a no-brainer! At the moment he's still pretty well behaved there, too. I'd hope this is at least partly because he's so used to being taken out.

Picturesinthefirelight Fri 18-Jan-13 21:54:23

Is this thread for real. Dd has been to my parents local "drinkers" pub since she was 6 months old. The kids are older now and enjoy going with grandad to watch the football and play pool.

GingerDoodle Fri 18-Jan-13 21:46:48

We've taken DD (now 3 1/2 months) to pubs since she was 2 days old. I don't believe my life has ended now I have a child and I am partial to a drink and burger! Its good for children to leave how to behave!

Personally I find i've been far more disturbed by other adults in pubs than I have ever by a child.

thesnootyfox Fri 18-Jan-13 17:49:39

I used to meet my ante natal friends in an upmarket pub for coffee. 20 breastfeeding mums and tiny babies meeting in a pub would have been unthinkable back in the Seventies.

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