Dear Newbies ... If you could possibly stop typing in text speak and bringing down the tone of the neighbourhood

(103 Posts)
Twiglett Thu 07-Sep-06 18:36:18

we'd appreciate it

thank you




oh and by the way ... should have, could have, would have (not of)

WigWamBam Thu 07-Sep-06 18:36:48

<Cheers Twiglett on from the sidelines>

Feelingpants Thu 07-Sep-06 18:37:16

wot u on abt twiggy

AllieDelOllio Thu 07-Sep-06 18:37:16

what's text speak for bollocks? blxs?

mumatuks Thu 07-Sep-06 18:40:59

Couldn't agree more Twiglett... you took the words right out of my mouth.

Kidstrack Thu 07-Sep-06 18:41:49

i usually put a (x) at the end of my txts to friends and today on here i have done it twice! Ok have another x.

marthamoo Thu 07-Sep-06 18:44:44

Twig, you're either very brave or very foolhardy but I'll cheer quietly too (though I'm hiding behind you and wwb as I do).

marthamoo Thu 07-Sep-06 18:45:18

x is alright! I've been known to put the odd x when I'm feeling affectionate.

motherinferior Thu 07-Sep-06 18:45:25

<very quietly hides behind MM>

aitch71 Thu 07-Sep-06 18:46:21

thank god somebody has said it. without wishing to sound like a crashing snob (which i do realise makes me sound like a crashing snob), text speak is very difficult to read and to understand and one of the best things about mumsnet is the fact that people here try to express themselves in an amusing and inclusive manner.

aitch71 Thu 07-Sep-06 18:47:10

well, apart from cod.

marthamoo Thu 07-Sep-06 18:48:47

I don't think we can do much about codspeak - braver people than us have tried and perished in the attempt.

mumatuks Thu 07-Sep-06 18:49:36

LOL Marthamoo..

AmandaP Thu 07-Sep-06 18:49:38

Okay, well while we're at it, here goes....

It is out OF the door, not out the door, etc

<<she ducks quickly and sticks her fingers in her ears>>

SherlockLGJ Thu 07-Sep-06 18:49:42

Text speak IMO, smacks of a sever lack of education and articulation.

Carmenere Thu 07-Sep-06 18:49:53

Much as I deplore the elitist attitude that this kind of post enforces , I hate text-speak, so I support you Twig.

SherlockLGJ Thu 07-Sep-06 18:50:12

severe even.

Gizmo Thu 07-Sep-06 18:51:55

I sometimes entertain myself by attempting to text friends a la Cod. It's surprisingly hard to do without the aid of a few glasses of wine...

iota Thu 07-Sep-06 18:52:19

I'll just quote Carmenere

"I deplore the elitist attitude that this kind of post enforces"

motherinferior Thu 07-Sep-06 18:54:51

I think - have been thinking this a while, actually (I don't get out much) - that sites like this are very interesting precisely because people post on them with such very different ideas about writing and communication. There's a lot of really very sophisticated writing and word-play here (especially with, for instance, Christmas names).

motherinferior Thu 07-Sep-06 18:55:29

(That's not the only reason I find MN interesting, btw. V flabby writing there .)

trinityrhino Thu 07-Sep-06 18:55:47

cheering twiglett also

FillyjonktheFluffy Thu 07-Sep-06 18:56:19

round here its "out the door"...

SherlockLGJ Thu 07-Sep-06 18:57:06

Gizmo

itiss urprisinglyea sywhaty oudoisyou run allthewor dstog etherovercomet heu rgeto p unctu ateand Bobsyo urnUcle.

FillyjonktheFluffy Thu 07-Sep-06 18:58:09

actually, no, its-

"aht tha dhur, like.".

marthamoo Thu 07-Sep-06 18:58:30

I type like cod when I'm drunk.

SherlockLGJ Thu 07-Sep-06 18:58:33

Ahem......... IOTA


That was a misquote surely, ??

marthamoo Thu 07-Sep-06 18:59:07

Nad aslo if I try to go too fats.

iota Thu 07-Sep-06 19:16:40

Sherlock

as used by newspapers and people trying to flog new books

dmo Thu 07-Sep-06 19:17:43

sherlock
cant read any of that

SherlockLGJ Thu 07-Sep-06 19:18:42

dmo

How long have you been here ??

moondog Thu 07-Sep-06 19:34:38

Go Twig!!

MerlinsBeard Thu 07-Sep-06 19:39:56

can i be the first to yell CLIQUE


<<<runs for her life>>

rustybear Thu 07-Sep-06 19:43:30

Aoccdrnig to a rscheeahcr at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.

Was the researcher at Cambridge called Cod?

kiskidee Thu 07-Sep-06 19:48:01

a bunch of the usual suspects droning on about textspeak again. would be so funny if no newbie clicked on this thread at it stays a convo among yourselves.

Spatz Thu 07-Sep-06 19:56:53

Also with you, but have a sad feeling it's due to my age!

JennyLee Thu 07-Sep-06 20:02:31

Twiglett R u Noyed? I think your comments are gr8 got 2 stop it, text speek is blx

Also hate text speak but think its up to other people how they write

JennyLee Thu 07-Sep-06 20:03:02

Blandmum Thu 07-Sep-06 20:05:12

I think that while it is up to people to write how they see fit, it is also up to the reader to decide if they can be bothered to read the message.

I can't, at my great age, be bothered to 'translate' a message, unless it was vital.

(realise that my typos cause a problem, but I don't try to do them , if you see what I mean....normaly would write IYSWIM )

Twiglett Thu 07-Sep-06 20:33:29

at kiskidee .. yes it would

Californifrau Thu 07-Sep-06 20:36:36

Thanks for starting this thread Twiglett, oh and Happy Birthday by the way!

TheRealCam Thu 07-Sep-06 20:48:20

I wish everyone would write their messages on scented tissue-lined Basildon Bond in italic hand-writing with a fountain pen, I don't really like these plain white box things with Times New Roman print on them.

coderoo Thu 07-Sep-06 20:48:55

ARF

coderoo Thu 07-Sep-06 20:49:12

oh adn yes happy birthday ot twig

3andnomore Thu 07-Sep-06 20:51:24

????????????????

desperateSCOUSEwife Thu 07-Sep-06 20:51:30

NO not a newbie, I would rather text speak than that stupid slappy the sea lion arf and parp

those who do that should be in a circus juggling balls

TheRealCam Thu 07-Sep-06 20:52:31

Oh I say!

coderoo Thu 07-Sep-06 20:53:13

lol at sea lion
i like em

Lainey6 Fri 08-Sep-06 00:29:30

Twiggie

How do you know the text speak people are 'newbies'? Personally, I text all the time but do not understand some of the lingo (sorry is that to common a word for you to understand?) which my friends use but WHO CARES!!! The point gets across! If the newbies are annoying you so much then piddle(!) off to THE PEOPLES FRIEND website for all the oldies, stuck in their ways. GET A LIFE!!!

VeniVidiVickiQV Fri 08-Sep-06 00:33:39

arf arf

Lainey6 Fri 08-Sep-06 00:37:54

That was a laugh wasnt it? See you really have to be totally stupid not to understand that?!?

Lainey6 Fri 08-Sep-06 00:58:22

Twiggie
I have been using this website for seven months and have found EXCELLANT advice on a variety of subjects. However, I find your statement to be very contrescending towards the newmembers of this site. If the 'newbies' as you so patronisingly put it, want to talk in text, then live & let live. I wish I had not came on to this thread because I feel infuriated by your childish comments. Dont even bother replying to me because I am so obviously beneath your level of stature within the MUMSNET website and I shall not return! LOL LOL LOL lol lol lol lol lol lol lol x x x

Twiglett Fri 08-Sep-06 08:42:32

oh good .. that's sorted then

dejags Fri 08-Sep-06 08:50:13

Text speak is awful. It is difficult to read, so much so that I rarely read a thread when it's used.

I can't even use text speak when I text somebody - it always sounds tacky.

Sorry but as you can see, I totally agree with Twig - I'll just say that it should apply to all users (newbies and oldies).

dejags Fri 08-Sep-06 08:51:11

ahem - I mean that the request not to use it, should be applied to all MN contributors.

mrs2shoes Fri 08-Sep-06 08:57:29

Twiglett
you are a stirrer

Freckle Fri 08-Sep-06 08:57:41

The difference between the Cambridge research and textspeak is that at least the research used all the letters. The point about textspeak is that it misses out a load and substitutes others.

Personally I just skip anything written in textspeak because I'm a sad old git who can't be bothered to spend 5 minutes translating something which should be read in 5 seconds. Textspeak was developed because of letter restrictions per text. That doesn't apply here (have you seen the length of some posts????) and I assume that everyone has a normal keyboard, so why not use it?

(Oh and I wish people would get the difference between of and off, while we're at it!).

ledodgyrobespierre Fri 08-Sep-06 08:59:05

I cnt B doin wiv txt spk meslf readin it takes 4eva & mkes me l8!

MrsBadger Fri 08-Sep-06 08:59:15

I was about to get curmudgeonly about this but a sudden wave of calm washed over me and I concluded that everyone should be allowed to post in any style they see fit.
However, everyone should also be allowed to read in any style they see fit, so people who post in text-speak or without sufficient line breaks or punctuation shouldn't be surprised if no-one reads their posts.

I'm now worrying this will create a two-tier MN though - text-speakers who only read other text-speak posts, and refuseniks who only read posts 'in clear'.

Will watch with interest.

Twiglett Fri 08-Sep-06 09:00:09

I am not .. we don't use text speak here because there's enough space to type out what you mean, unlike mobile phones, its difficult to read fluently and it makes communication vitually impossible .. its difficult enough to get the nuances without the added barrier of shorthand

Either that or I'm just contrescending (sic)

hunkermunker Fri 08-Sep-06 09:02:46

Twiglett, only read the OP, but am sure I agree with you the whole way up the thread

hunkermunker Fri 08-Sep-06 09:02:59

(Yamface)

Twiglett Fri 08-Sep-06 09:04:10

interestingly I felt that Lainey6's posts were humorous and she was being ironic in her condemnation .. I may be totally wrong on that .. such is the nature of the written word

saadia Fri 08-Sep-06 09:04:21

Have to say that I agree there is no need for textspeak on MN. And I think it does in a way trivialise what is being said - I can't really take it seriously.

Twiglett Fri 08-Sep-06 09:04:27

dagyammit Hunker

batters Fri 08-Sep-06 09:04:40

lol at Cam .

Agree with MB .

JoolioTooterini Fri 08-Sep-06 09:05:22

I loathe textspeak in texts!

The English language is doomed!

Twiglett Fri 08-Sep-06 09:06:00

but aren't you a spanish / italian hybrid? why would it bother you?

JoolioTooterini Fri 08-Sep-06 09:07:09

must add though I don't give a scooby if that's what you want to do, you just won't catch me doing it!

expatinscotland Fri 08-Sep-06 09:07:32

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, Twiglett.

x
Crshng snob
(Who doesn't own a mobile)

expatinscotland Fri 08-Sep-06 09:10:43

'Txtspk' is apparently sabotaging actual literacy these days.

There was an article in Tuesday's 'The Scotsman' about how businesses are having to offer remedial reading and writing classes to employees.

Sorry, but my 'live and let live' concept ends when Johnny just cannot f*cking write.

MrsFio Fri 08-Sep-06 09:12:24

my text function types proper english though, on my phone that is

ShowOfHands Fri 08-Sep-06 09:17:17

Ooh Twiglett, did somebody buy you a big spoon for your birthday then?

Beetroot Fri 08-Sep-06 09:20:26

I am with you Twigg.

It would be interesting though for people to explain why they do it..dontcha fink?

ShowOfHands Fri 08-Sep-06 09:21:28

And whilst I second the motion to ban text speak, I also wish to propose that discussion of anal sex is limited, perhaps allowed solely between the hours of 10pm and 11pm so I am not faced with it over my cornflakes (and if we could just put "warning filthy" in the subject heading of anything remotely sex related to cater for my prudish tendencies).

And can we ban posts in full capitalisation while we're having a revolution?

Twiglett Fri 08-Sep-06 09:23:14

its not stirring to ask people to write legibly IMO .. it is also not classist / racist / mysoginistic or any other 'ist' you can think of ..

we don't use text speak here .. we have a history of not using text speak

every once in a while there's an influx of newcomers (most welcome newcomers) and some start using text speak and then someone points out we don't tend to do that here and then they stop

what's the harm in that?

MrsFio Fri 08-Sep-06 09:24:17

WOT 4 ANL 6X FN OK

<soz i sh$t at txt spk>

expatinscotland Fri 08-Sep-06 09:24:26

None whatsoever, Twiggy.

I'm w/you!

katierocket Fri 08-Sep-06 09:26:22

I agree I agree I agree I agree I agree I agree.

It's annoying and unnecessary.

Please watch spelling too

katierocket Fri 08-Sep-06 09:26:58

I also heartedly agree with showofhands.

Gosh I'm in an agreeable mood.

Beetroot Fri 08-Sep-06 09:28:25

spelling is a different matter imo..some people find that tricky and should not be slated for it

Beetroot Fri 08-Sep-06 09:28:50

omg is imo txtspk?

katierocket Fri 08-Sep-06 09:28:58

Twas a joke beety

jura Fri 08-Sep-06 09:30:58

As one of the grammar/spelling pedants here, who uses full text and proper punctuation in text messages, I wholeheartedly agree with you Twig.

Again.

Oh, and happy birthday . How old does that make you this week?

Sandcastles Fri 08-Sep-06 09:36:05

I will admit to using text speak, but only when I text a friend who I know does the same & can read it. I wouldn't use it in any other form of communication, especially not here.

LiliLaTigresse Fri 08-Sep-06 09:46:12

agree with the Marmitey one on this
we all have a full keyboard, let's use it

Beetroot Fri 08-Sep-06 11:22:07

katie, i wrote it!!

1Baby1Bump Fri 08-Sep-06 11:30:11

rustybears' post is terrific! i read it no problem.
sorry to sound like a loser but that is totally amazing!

poptot Fri 08-Sep-06 11:40:30

My MIL uses text speak to text and I really can't cope with it, it's so unbecoming I'm afraid I have to type the whole thing out in a text never mind on her.

WideWebWitch Fri 08-Sep-06 11:47:46

I totally agree MrsBadger and Twig. Posters can use text speak all they like but I can't be arsed to read it and so won't reply to text speak posts (you may think that's a good thing, especially if you like banning children at weddings or something .)

And absolutely, whoever said it developed because of word count restrictions which aren't applicable here and are pretty much not even applicable in actual phone texts either. What's the point?

AHEM

I posted this last week

I am going to start replying to txt speak posts in Russian or similar so they can't understand either

VeniVidiVickiQV Fri 08-Sep-06 13:01:41

Da?

VeniVidiVickiQV Fri 08-Sep-06 13:02:13

Actually, for text speak OP's i think we should refer to cods 4 rules of answering posts....

Beetroot Sat 09-Sep-06 14:42:11

what are cods four rules?

coderoo Sat 09-Sep-06 15:01:02

well ic ant rememebr but hteyr wer very sound
arf

Donbean Sat 09-Sep-06 15:01:56

cod, have you just been on your hols?

PinkTulips Sat 09-Sep-06 18:43:54

i'm young and i cant read it at all. don't use it, not even in texts and neither does anyone i know. can't stand having to decipher posts... usually don't bother tbh!

Lainey6 Tue 12-Sep-06 01:57:47

OOh well. Nice 2 c that Twiglett started n int'resting, con'sation. duhhhh! Haha. x

Lainey6 Tue 12-Sep-06 02:28:29

Actually, while I am here... People talk about their DH, DD1 etc. What does this mean? What is the Mumsnet shorthand which is so commonly used? Twigglet, you are so obviously a regular, therefore, can you explain? xxx

ghosty Tue 12-Sep-06 02:31:30

Am there in spirit behind WWB, MM and MI and the rest of you.
I text in txtspk to a couple of my friends who do it to me too - we do it for a laugh. Everyone else gets proper words with punctuation etc.
I can only ever log on for 30 minutes at a time on MN and just don't have the energy to translate so if I open a thread in text speak I promptly close it again.
I struggle enough with Cod's messages but have become used to them ... although I am thinking about suggesting a whip round to get her some typing lessons

jabberwocky Tue 12-Sep-06 05:26:06

Lainey6, click on acronym list at the top of the page for MN shorthand.

I am another one who skips any post in textspeak. If they can't be bothered to type properly, I can't be bothered to read it.

slappywappydoodah Tue 02-Oct-12 13:59:28

I dont mean to get into a massive row here, but I dont think you can really have a go at newbies (or anyone else for that matter) for their use of text speak when MumsNet as a whole is so absolutely bursting with acronyms.

The whole premise of text speak to shortening of words and use of acronyms... how is this any worse than your regular use of such increasinly long and ridiculous acronyms as DC, DH, DP, BFP, DSS1, STBXW etc?

sleepyhead Tue 02-Oct-12 14:06:33

You might have a point slappy... if this thread wasn't 6 years old hmm

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