Episode 32 - The New Zealand tea room

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ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Sat 14-Jan-12 22:06:10

Well folks, here we are, beside the hot springs of New Zealand.

The tea room (with the customary distressed chintz sofa) overlooks the steaming, bubbling lake. For the bold and sporty, hiking, biking and sky-diving are on offer. Personally, I'm not planning to leave the spa.

Please come and join us for a celebratory drink and conversation ranging from the profound to the profoundly silly. The cardinal rule remains: no fisticuffs.

beanandspud Sat 14-Jan-12 22:27:07

<< fills cupboards with wine, brew and biscuit>>

Maud, this is lovely.

Are there any penguins?

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Sat 14-Jan-12 22:30:33

Welcome, Bean.

Penguins? Do you want there to be penguins (wildlife or biscuit variety)? As this is the tea room of requirement, I guess there will be penguins if you want them.

beanandspud Sat 14-Jan-12 22:36:31

Definitely birds not biscuits. For some reason I associate NZ with penguins so if I can sit in the hot spa and see them pottering about that would be lovely.

(Although I suspect they smell a bit so maybe not too close?)

CMOTDibbler Sat 14-Jan-12 23:18:59

They do smell, but in the background are very pretty. I do like a bit of geothermal activity smile

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Sat 14-Jan-12 23:23:29

Yup, geothermal activity was one of the things that drew me here.

<<insert joke about old geysers>>

Jacksmania Sun 15-Jan-12 03:34:41

Cake crumbs were a lovely idea, much better than bread crumbs.

Ahhhhh... <lowers feet into hot pool> I'm not leaving any time soon.

Err... what time is it here? Isn't NZ a day ahead of us Canucks? Will I have to go to bed soon so I can get up again at stupid o'clock on Monday? <despairs>

HOW am I going to get through this next week??? WHY did I think this course was a good idea????

Is there wine?

amberlight Sun 15-Jan-12 09:09:58

Not this early in the morning there isn't. Hold on, this is NZ, therefore it's 9pm and wine is available after all! Jolly good. You'll get through it somehow, JM.

Nice place! I see the Bishops have settled in already with the other local leaders <watches sheep shearing contests outside, in an alarmed way>.

beanandspud Sun 15-Jan-12 12:03:05

Good morning!

Do any of you wise tea-roomers have any advice on how to handing 'tattling' or telling tales on other children? I noticed it a lot yesterday when we were with a group of friends, Small Bean seemed to always be the one to come running back with "Fred just pushed me", "Boris has just pushed Donald" etc. He also went up to, for example, Boris' mum to let her know what Boris had done blush.

I don't want to make a big thing of it, and maybe I've encouraged it because I have always said to tell an adult if something happens rather than retaliating, but I would like him to get a bit more resilient and not come running for every little push or shove.

I have a lovely hour to myself, would anyone like brew?

Thumbwitch Sun 15-Jan-12 12:33:31

brew would be lovely, thanks bean!

nice hot springs - probably fairy penguins that you can see running around smile

bean - miniThumb is a bit of a 'dobber' (get me with my Aussie slang!) - I think it's normal at that age, isn't it? I usually ask him if he's hurt, if he's not I tell him not to worry about it and go back and play - and mostly he only comes to tell me now if he IS hurt, in which case I want to know who did what to him anyway! So I would say (but only because it worked for me) that you do the equivalent of "that's nice dear, run along and play" when it's nothing serious - he should get bored and stop coming unless he's hurt.

JM - eyes on the prize, all the time. Once you have the certificate, you're FREE! smile Have some wine even if it is too early.

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Sun 15-Jan-12 12:41:27

An hour of you time? How lovely! As it's nearly lunchtime, I'll have a wine.

I think the tattling is an age-related thing. At about age 3-4, children work out that some things are good and some things are not and look to adults to enforce the 'rules' of acceptable and unacceptable behaviour. As you say, it's quite tricky because one wants the child to report back if someone has been badly hurt or is at risk of being badly hurt, but not for all the minor bits of stuff about Tallulah not sharing the crayons or whatever it may be. When we were at this stage, I used to listen attentively and then either act (if a child was about to jump off the top of the wardrobe, say) or say something like "Oh dear, why don't you use the crayon that Tallulah isn't using and then swap?", ie interested and offering a suggestion but not leaping to intervene. Eventually, the message got home that I was only going to intervene on the big stuff. Coaching the child on what to say to the other child also helps - as The Girl became more articulate, she would argue with the other child confused without expecting me to take up the cudgels on her behalf.

Hello ladies, bit of a twirl for a new name!

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Sun 15-Jan-12 12:49:51

Oooh, lovely new name! Welcome!

I take no credit for it! On a cat thread someone suggested it for me, I am RUBBUSH at thinking up names!

I used to hate all the telling tales stuff as well. Very hard balance, at primary school our daughter was getting a bit of teasing and bullying, so we would tell her to tell us, tell the staff, and then the teacher said something like the other kids in the class thought she was attention seeking, so quite often she wouldn't tell staff when anything happened. It was a viscious circle, as it would then come to a head and the teacher saying that she should have spoke up sooner! Gah!!

amberlight Sun 15-Jan-12 15:57:05

Depends. Me, I'm rule-based and sensory-based. So if the rule is 'don't push' and a child pushes, I was shocked and confused about why they'd broken the rule. Why? Because if someone pushes me, it hurts worse than being punched, because of the sensory differences. So watching a child being pushed is the same as you watching a child being punched, and feels as frightening for that reason. A lot of children have sensory processing differences even if they're not on the autism spectrum, and so may have very good reason to fear a playground where pushing is sort of ok. Just one possible explanation. There will be plenty of children to whom that doesn't apply, of course.

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Sun 15-Jan-12 16:41:43

Oh yes, some children will undoubtedly be more troubled by (say) pushing than others, but the very interesting question for me in Bean's post is how children decide the boundaries between stuff-they-sort-out-for-themselves and stuff-they-tell-an-adult-about and whether, as a parent, one wants to shift those boundaries (or help the child in shifting them for themselves). As I said before, children of about 3 or 4 seem very rule-based and are upset by any infringement of the rules (except their own, mostly) but they then (within some constraints, such as age and understanding) make choices about how to respond to that infringement.

beanandspud Sun 15-Jan-12 18:26:15

Thank you for all your thoughts. Wise words, as always, about children of that age being rule-based. Small Bean definitely is and has a very clear idea of what (in his own mind) is right or wrong. (It's no fun being in the car with him at the moment as you are constantly reminded about the speed limit, warning signs and the fact that the driver must concentrate At All Times).

I think I am going to have to perfect my reply of 'that's nice dear, run along and play'. I do try not to interfere and to encourage him to sort out his own battles but I find it hard especially in public when you sometimes feel as if your parenting is being judged.

It is however that time and I'm ready for a nice NZ wine.

UniS Sun 15-Jan-12 18:53:00

IS that a penguin or is it a Timtam? We are in the antipodes so Timtam seems likley. Of course it could be little blue.

Boy has been in a grumbly grumpy mood this weekend,, except when he hasn't been, and then hes been lovely. Hes tired- which bodes badly for going on an acton packed family holiday in a few weeks time.

Ok- Query for the Tea room med pro quartete now. Yesterday I bashed teh knuckle of one finger VERY hard, nice bruise came up, good purple and blue colours. , swollen knuckle. This evening swelling is down, colour has spread to most of finger and a numb patch has developed, from very tip of finger ( about an hour ago) to teh first knuckle. Making typing and writing a bit weird as I'm getting no feedback from that finger. My guess is the swelling is pressing on a nerve and it will sort self out in time. I'm planning on a wait n see approach. Sound reasonable?

Thumbwitch Sun 15-Jan-12 19:19:34

How did you bash it, UniS? Can you bend it at all? I think if you have neurological involvement, I'd take it to be seen, tbh. Have you put anything on it, like Ibuprofen gel, to bring the swelling down? Do that first and see if it makes any difference and if not, take it to be seen by a doc.

I had a friend who played football, kicked the ball awkwardly (end on to his big toe) and broke and dislocated his big toe. The joint bled in a nice blackish purple ring but he refused to go and see anyone about it. He'd have been fine except for the dislocation so by the time he did eventually go and see someone his joint was in a right mess and needed an operation, which shortened his toe by about half an inch and left him with reduced movement. So that's now left me a little wary of 'waiting and seeing' for too long!

UniS Sun 15-Jan-12 19:37:49

finger is working fully normally. Not going to anything tonight, will see what its like in the morning. COULD pop into minor injuries unit tomorrow.

Scout19075 Sun 15-Jan-12 21:00:37

Thank you for the cake crumbs, Maud!

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Sun 15-Jan-12 21:06:56

How was your trip, Scout?

Scout19075 Sun 15-Jan-12 21:16:20

Good, thanks. Fruitful.

Scout19075 Sun 15-Jan-12 21:22:47

Maud -- Incoming re: Guides.

oxeye Mon 16-Jan-12 00:19:55

hello dear tea roomers, sorry to be more absent than present...
all well in Oxtowers, Oxbloke is around at the moment which is great
Bean I second in particular Maud's wise comments - I always preferred Oxboy to bring problems to me since personal resolution amongst friends tended to involve tear, possibly biting, almost certainly hitting at that age...but now, aged 5, the "yes, I can see that is upsetting/ annoying/ not what you want to do but can you think of a way to work it out between you" almost always works - but without the learning how to adapt rules "take the pen that Tallulah isn't using" would not now be possible - if that makes sense?

Social interaction is difficult to learn and difficult to practise so its not surprising they need guidance!

UniS your description of Boy sounds like OxBoy - he is lovely except when he is being horrid! he's very tired back at school but also going through a stage of pushing my buttons, and I seem to lack the coping skills - I need to find a kinder way to talk to him I think....

<<hugs all lovely T roomers and raises wine >>

UniS Mon 16-Jan-12 09:57:40

ibuprofen gel and nights sleep and bashed finger appears back to normal, bar the interesting purple colour. HURRAH.

Hurrah for oxbloke being about for bit, Hurrah for oxboy getting better at dispute resolution, BOOHISS for oxboy learning how to wind you up.

We had a fun lazy afternoon yesterday trying on all teh ski gear and getting boy to work out how to get himself dressed and undressed from it all . He did work out that he can't do a wee with salopettes on, he had a go, but managed to get "bitten" by the zip. OUCH. still better found out at home when not desperate than in the middle of a ski school session.

Mid morning ( UK time) in the tea room, would you care to join me for a danish pastry and a coffee? Or perhaps if you on NZ time you would prefer a wine.

thanks to you all just because your fab,

beanandspud Mon 16-Jan-12 10:56:56

Hurrah for bashed finger getting better! Danish and coffee sounds perfect!

<<waves at Oxeye>> Good news that oxbloke is around for a bit. And thank you for the reassurance that it does get better easier just different!

When do you go skiing Unis? I am a teeny tiny bit envy. Have been looking at beginner sessions for Small Bean at the local indoor ski place as Mr Bean is desperate for a skiing holiday next year.

Ouch to being eaten by zip though ::eyes watering emoticon::

It was -4 degrees when I went to nursery this morning - where's that hot spa?

UniS Mon 16-Jan-12 11:32:33

couple of weeks time. whooooosh.

Thumbwitch Mon 16-Jan-12 12:16:55

Woohoo! Very pleased that the bashed finger appears back to normal - excellent news! Reapply the ibuprofen gel if it swells again, or starts to throb or you lose sensation in the fingertip again. That's a relief since you're off ski-ing! But Ouchy! to Boy's near accident with the salopette zipper! shock

I nearly booked my trip back to the UK today but it wouldn't go through so I'll have to try again in the morning. Am half-excited - I really want to come back but I'm a bit scared about how miniThumb is going to be this time, he's a lot more stroppy now than he was before! And I've booked it for an extra 3 or 4 days so I get 4 weekends in the UK, so that's extra time for him to get homesick and whinge about going hoooooommmmmme <sigh>
I must be mad. But it's so much money, I like to see as many people as I can and it seems daft to limit the time because of a whingy child... hey ho.

Might even manage a bit of a tearoom meet up, hey! Most of March is when I'll be there smile

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Mon 16-Jan-12 17:24:25

::Clasps Oxeye to her ample bosom::

Lovely to see you, my dear. Shall we raise a toast to the tea room's golden boy and his Golden Globe?

::hangs garland of flowers around the neck of Cardboard George::

It's been a gruelling day.

::Sits next to JM and dangles her battered feet in the hot pool::

oxeye Mon 16-Jan-12 18:45:11

oh yes, George. Dear George. Can't wait to see the film, saw a trailer and it looked great!

Maud - hugs returned, sorry you've had a gruelling day ::slaps some mud around to cheer us all up::

::puts out bottles of wine::

UniS glad your finger is good, are you going skiing during term? We had the snowiest of all snowy experiences, amazing snow but didn't get to actually ski much due to amazing amounts of amazing snow - bit frustrating really

As to weeing while wearing a salopette, all I can say is that it is very very tricky for little chaps! And get much much more clothage that you might imagine, certainly that's true for Oxboy

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Mon 16-Jan-12 19:03:24

Oh yes. Dear, dear George.

::Swoons into hot pool and has to be fished out by Mellors::

::So not all bad, then::

I have nothing to contribute to any discussion of skiing, as my only foray into snow sports was cancelled because I dislocated my thumb before I got to the slopes.

::Swigs wine::

UniS Mon 16-Jan-12 19:19:35

ouch to dislocated thumb, glad I didn;t do that.


ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Mon 16-Jan-12 19:25:56

It was rather impressive ::look away now if you're squeamish:: it was so badly dislocated that my thumb was emerging from the middle of the back of my hand. Two doctors failed to yank it back into position and had to go and fetch a colleague who (to judge by the side of him) was prop forward for the hospital rugby team.

CMOTDibbler Mon 16-Jan-12 19:46:03

Yurk Maud.
I too have never skied, and have no intention of doing so. If ds wishes to, he'll have to go with school.
Bloomin cold here also. -4 this morning, and most of the frost hadn't melted by this evening.

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Mon 16-Jan-12 19:58:58

It was very yurk.

Thumbwitch Mon 16-Jan-12 22:23:27

That sounds very nasty indeed Maud - you must have fallen very awkwardly on it! Hope it doesn't cause you any problems now. smile

I am another ski-dodger here - knees are just too crap and I don't much enjoy going downhill out of control. I like skating though...
DH is a snow-boarding fan, he's quite good at it - so when miniThumb is big enough, we'll go to NZ and the boys can do the ski stuff while I drink hot chocolate watch. smile

Donki Mon 16-Jan-12 22:25:02

<<Imagines a Donki on skis>>

<<Faints into hay pile>>

UniS Mon 16-Jan-12 22:33:14

UniS also imagines a donkey on skis, and falls about laughing.

Do you think 2 skis or 4 would work better Donki?

One of the children I supervise at lunchtime is also going sking in the near future, we were excited at each other today.

Donki Tue 17-Jan-12 10:44:09

No skis!
I'm a wonky Donki with dodgy knees......

UniS Tue 17-Jan-12 11:41:00

Ok, how about a sledge for you donki. with a nice comfy seat and steering, and a roll bar.

nearly lunchtime ladies, Soup du jour

chilli, chocolate sausage supreme soup is on teh side with rolls tres artisic and twiglet surprise avec peaches for pud.

Donki Tue 17-Jan-12 12:20:37

I'll take the sledge! Good idea UniS

Lunch sounds good

<<Adds a delicious carrot casserole to the table, with carrot cake on the side>>

amberlight Tue 17-Jan-12 15:05:13

<sidles over to the table to take a spoonful of casserole and a small slice of carrot cake>
<adds brew >

UniS Tue 17-Jan-12 18:47:04

Thanks to teh NMBs and Mellors for dong the washing up. The floor is now covered with bubbles, looks like snow.

Hey Donki, shall I pull you round on that there sledge.

Donki Tue 17-Jan-12 19:48:01

Can we have huskies to pull the sledge?

UniS Tue 17-Jan-12 20:40:44

Phew- yes, what a good idea. my arms were getting tired.

::UniS harnesses up teh huskies and fits teh dog shit deflector scree to teh front of teh sledge, points donki out of teh door and into teh real snow::

Off you go


Donki Tue 17-Jan-12 21:40:06

Wheeeeeeeeeeeee! grin

UniS Tue 17-Jan-12 22:49:59

Whoosh, Unis catches up with Donki on her skis.

And guides her back to the base station for the cable car. The Hansome young lift wallah ( looks bit like mellors if you squint) helps us into a luxuriously appointed bubble with heater and rugs a plenty. He hands us each a goblet/bucket of mulled wine, Donki's is of course carrot wine. The doors swing shut, we gently ascend the cable back to the tea room aloft.

Jacksmania Wed 18-Jan-12 01:24:49

I used to ski... haven't been for years, was fairly crap at it but that didn't stop me having fun. Have never tried and will probably never try snowboarding, the risk of broken or at least sprained wrists is too high which would be a career-limiting injury for me.

So I think I'm going to join those who prefer to drink hot chocolate on the sidelines watch.

In yoga, we have one of those "in" jokes... all yoga poses end in "asana" which is a Sanskrit (or Devanagari, depending on whom you ask) word which means "pose". So, "bakasana" is crow pose, and "baddhakanasana" is butterfly pose, for example. We also have "watchasana", which is when something just plainly looks too difficult to attempt and you prefer to sit and watch grin

For me, snowboarding is a watchasana grin

So, I doubt anyone has been paying attention to the weather in my corner of the world (why would you) but British Columbia's Lower Mainland has been hit by a blast of winter. We've been having arctic outflow advisories - predicted temperatures of -7 to -10, and there is a storm currently making its way up the west coast which is due to hit northern Washington State and especially Seattle and predicted to dump about a foot of snow. We've been getting outliers of it. Where I live, in the Fraser Valley, we have been 6" to a foot of snow. On the other hand, Vancouver, where I am currently on this %#&*&^%$!!! blasted course, has no snow, or only a dusting - and that's only roughly 45 km west of where I live. It's amazing what happens when you leave the moderating effect of the ocean (Vancouver) and get to a more landlocked area with mountains nearby (my area). And we don't usually get this kind of weather and people do not know how to drive in snow.

The drive to and from Vancouver has been an exercise in white-knuckling, because conditions are so variable and people are such bloody idiots that they speed, pass other drivers and end up doing a well-deserved spin into the nearest ditch.
After yesterday's drive home, which was Not Fun, DH and I decided I should stay downtown at the hotel which is a 60 second walk from the course. So that's where I currently am, and I'm being torn in half by guilt and pleasure. Guilt, because wouldn't you know it, today was a bit sunny and mostly cloudy but no snow. And I'm not home with JB and DH. And I miss them. And pleasure because I'm by myself in a very nice hotel room, with internet access so I can bloody MN all night if I want to, it's quiet, nobody wants anything from me, I didn't have to white-knuckle-drive home for an hour and 20 mins, and back tomorrow morning, and I have wine (which in fairness I could have at home), and I don't have to get up at 4:30 am tomorrow, and I can go to bed when I want to, which may very well end up being 7 pm, and I'm about to go out to dinner with one of the lovely women in my course (almost everyone is really really nice... if only this training were a little less crap fluffy!!)... but I feel guilty because I know JB will miss me, and I will miss sleeping cuddled up with him on one side and DH on the other.
This will be my 5th night away from him, ever.
I remember when I went to a seminar in Vancouver in Oct 2010, and stayed downtown. The first night I couldn't sleep, because it was too quiet in the room and too loud outside, and I was by myself. The second night, I slept from 8:45 pm to 10 am the next morning and barely moved all night. And woke up feeling soooooo good, and feeling so guilty because I felt so good.

Um, am I completely nuts or does any of this make sense? Don't hold back...

Jacksmania Wed 18-Jan-12 01:32:06

And I'm also struggling a bit because we were made to watch some birth movies in class today (water births, and lovely normal midwife-assisted births that went splendidly), and I got a bit triggered by watching them. I mostly managed to sit on it really hard, but of course I always get mild flashbacks, of the OR where I gave birth, and the chaos, and I got so angry because I always feel so cheated of a good experience... and I mean that in my case, being told "JM, this baby is well stuck, we're going to get him out by section" would have been a good experience compared to what actually did happen. I actually ended up having that horrible chest pain that usually comes before a panic attack and I'm so proud of myself for managing to sit on it and put it away. But it did leave me with a stress headache, and I feel a bit ick and shaky... so going out to dinner will be nice and relaxing, I hope.

Have a lovely night, all, and thank you for allowing me to witter. I hope that wasn't TMI for anyone, if it was, I sincerely apologize.

UniS Wed 18-Jan-12 18:56:47

WOW, well done JM, that sounds like a tough day for you and you coped very well.

Staying in town sounds eminently sensible. I'm not familiar with BC but have seen a little bit of Washington state. I stayed at a ski lodge about 30 miles out from Seattle, at Snoqualmie Pass. I hope the Sahalie ski club have been having a good early season, they seemed to have a decent coverage quite early this year.
Even in Devon we see the coast/ not coast thing with snow. Up here in the Moor we get a lot more snow than they do down by the coast, I sometimes have to phone DH at work to tell him the snow is pitching on our road and he ought to come home now rather than in 3 hours time.

CMOTDibbler Wed 18-Jan-12 19:44:40

JM, I think you are v brave just wanting to be with lots of hippyish pregnant ladies who witter about natural birth when you know only too well what can happen. Enjoy the hotel - much as I dislike being away, I do enjoy spreading out and knowing I will sleep all night with no interruptions.

brew anyone ?

A bright spot for me atm is that my keloid is def getting paler with the steroid and silicone treatment. Who'd have thought that as I enter my 40's, I'd be having botox and silicone prescribed, but both for my arm <sigh> And this lot of botox didn't work.

beanandspud Wed 18-Jan-12 20:10:03

JM - you're not nuts at all. I often feel a bit like that when I am away and will be in the same boat on Sunday. It's lovely getting a night to yourself, a meal, a glass of wine and a chance to read a book in bed in peace but then I feel guilty for almost enjoying not being at home with the boys.

It sounds like a sensible option staying in town though - stick it out, not long to go now?

Good news on your keloid CMOT - smile at botox and silicon.

wine anyone? I could do with a massage - I have spent 5 hours in the car today - where's Mellors when you need him?

CMOTDibbler Wed 18-Jan-12 20:25:37

I feel your pain Bean - I was in the car for 5 1/2 hours yesterday. Next week is a 2 snowy country tour, with my colleague who has 3 children and a stroppy dh

Donki Wed 18-Jan-12 22:26:55

I've just realised - we are in New Zealand! Perhaps Mellors will visit Justa whilst we are here...

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Wed 18-Jan-12 22:29:34


Donki Wed 18-Jan-12 22:33:46

Justa was an early habituée of the tea room - she introduced me to it! She is currently in NZ.

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Wed 18-Jan-12 22:37:01

Yes, I remember Justa and was sorry when she left the tea room. I didn't know she was in NZ. Are you still in touch with her? Is she still on MN? I haven't seen her about for yonks.

UniS Wed 18-Jan-12 22:44:57

I'm sure Mellors will pay Justa a call. Its teh kind of considerate thing he would do. Probadly taking her thanks and a large wine. Neither of which she got to enjoy on line.

Donki Wed 18-Jan-12 22:48:45

She has a mumsnet blog called Green Pastures New.

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Wed 18-Jan-12 22:50:06

Oooh, I'll go and have a look. I got a lot from her threads in spirituality & religion.

Donki Wed 18-Jan-12 22:50:24

It is listed under SN blogs

Thumbwitch Wed 18-Jan-12 22:54:04

JM - hope you had a better sleep on your own this time! Glad you got the opportunity to stay in close proximity to your fluff-filled course. Hope you don't get any more triggers but well done for sitting on the ones you did have. ((((hug))))

CMOTD - that's good news about the keloid scar, less good that the botox didn't work.

I know Justa went quiet when there was all that blow up about her job on here; but I think she came back - haven't seen her around very recently though.

I expect Mellors will know where to find her though smile

Made a mistake this morning - thought that the swimming classes started this week but apparently it's next week - so got miniThumb all set to go, endured 15 minutes of "but I don't want to go, Mummy, I don't love swimming any more, I hate it now" and wailing - only to find it wasn't on.<sigh> Still, better this way round than missing the first week I guess.

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Wed 18-Jan-12 23:07:02

Thank you, Donki, I don't usually do blogs but I'd like to know how Justa is doing and have just been having a read.

Jacksmania Thu 19-Jan-12 01:52:43

I remember Justa, there was a huge blow-up about a thread of hers and she sort of ducked down under the radar for a while. I did see somewhere that she was moving to NZ. I hope she's well, won't have time to dive into her blog the next few days.

Two more days. I have to say this is really not what I expected. I expected to be taught how to safely teach a pregnancy yoga class, how to make it fun, and how to teach poses and flows that strengthen pregnant women for giving birth. I didn't expect that there was going to be all this birth stuff (incl movies), and I would really like to know, why???? God willing no-one is going to give birth in my pregnancy yoga class!! And it isn't as if we went into phenomenal anatomic detail (in fact, quite the opposite) about how labour and birth works and what muscles are involved so we could specifically strengthen those, which would at least partly justify why we've spent so much time watching these flippin' movies, and having a midwife and an OB come in and talk to us. Seriously - this isn't doula training, it's pregnancy yoga. Not that you could tell from the course content.
There are any number of things I wish I had known before signing up for this course... for one, that even though Yoga Alliance (the governing body, as it were, for yoga schools and studios, who determine what criteria a course has to fulfill) has now mandated that pregnancy yoga teacher training has to be an 85-hour course (it was 30 hours previously), that this is the first time that any yoga school in BC, or for that matter in Canada, is running an 85-hour course. If I'd known we were going to be the first, I'd have waited. I really never want to be part of a group that is receiving a certain training for the first time. And I also wish I'd known that this course was going to be so heavily weighted towards the more woo-woo style of yoga, which is so not my thing. Argh. But, on the other hand, even if I'd known that, I might have gritted my teeth and gone for it, just to have the 85-hour certification, and be done with it.

Anyway, I'm just venting here, mainly so I don't have to bore poor DH with the umpteenth repetition of why today was another one of the "JM's head is in danger of exploding" kind of days. I just really resent not working for two weeks, and having to pay all kinds of money for this course, to find that I'm getting maybe at the most 30 hours of useful information and 55 hours of fluff. angry

Ok, done venting, no need to say any more.
Two more days. Repeat after me, "I can do it". Then repeat after me, "where's the wine?????"

Thumbwitch Thu 19-Jan-12 09:43:04

Ha, JM, I think you have just put your finger on the nub of the issue! Yes, it used to be a 30h course and they've had to make it an 85h course, so 55h worth of "padding" is the result! How bloody irritating for all concerned. Still - once you have the certificate they can't take it off you smile

UniS Thu 19-Jan-12 10:04:38

Repeats after JM

Yes, you CAN do it

And wine heres the wine

Scout19075 Thu 19-Jan-12 18:30:26

<<Whispers: Are their priest holes in New Zealand?>>

Scout19075 Thu 19-Jan-12 18:42:06

GAH! There not their. Obviously. GAH!

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Thu 19-Jan-12 18:53:02

Yes there are, Scout. It is fully equipped with fluffy blankets, hot water bottles, hot and cold drinks and chocolate. If you want to go for a snuggle, Mellors will tuck you up, put some soothing music on the stereo and rub your feet.

Scout19075 Thu 19-Jan-12 19:30:24

<<Heads down with a pile of American comfort food>>

In RL about to collect a pizza and have some wine.

Jacksmania Thu 19-Jan-12 19:42:29

<lowers duvet, wine, chocolates and a lovely foot and neck massage down the priest hole>
<quickly adds (((((((*HUGS*))))))))>

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Thu 19-Jan-12 22:13:22

::Sends down a couple of tubes of Tootsie Rolls::

beanandspud Thu 19-Jan-12 22:29:28

:: tops up wine for Scout and adds more hugs ::

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Thu 19-Jan-12 22:43:53

::Lowers some thanks and a slightly wonky but very beautiful card made by a two year old doing his very best colouring::

Scout19075 Fri 20-Jan-12 07:31:02

<<Calls from the priest hole: Can you toss down another blanket? It's cold down here.>>

brew on the side if you fancy it.

Taking TS to soft play this morning then heading to Ye Ol' Royal County <<waves at amber>> to ILs.

In addition to yesterday's news am confronting the reality that the decision to have only TS has now been taken out of my hands and it's a hard reality to face. <<I'm just going to stay hiding down this priest hole for a bit. JM, if you can, can you send down some pop tarts for me?>>

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Fri 20-Jan-12 12:30:59

::Lowers down another fluffy blanket and an authentic American quilt::

CMOTDibbler Fri 20-Jan-12 12:43:08

Big hugs Scout

Thumbwitch Fri 20-Jan-12 12:57:35

((((hugs)))) for you Scout - here, have some quilting and some Reese's peanutbutter cups, oh and a book about guiding in NZ. Remember we're here to vent/offload to if you want to. Have some wine as well while you're down there.

Scout19075 Fri 20-Jan-12 16:30:32

Stupid broken blood. angry

Ah, well, round two here I come.

Scout19075 Fri 20-Jan-12 17:05:01

Thank you for being so nice.


CMOTDibbler Fri 20-Jan-12 17:33:32

Oh no, do you have to do all the treatment again sad

Jacksmania Fri 20-Jan-12 18:09:40

(((((*HUGS*))))) Scout sad

Scout19075 Fri 20-Jan-12 18:10:25

Yes. With more drugs mixed into the cocktail. Blurgh. NOT my idea of a good way to spend 11/12 months.

beanandspud Fri 20-Jan-12 19:37:36

(((((((HUGS)))))))) Scout. Sending you wine, brew and USbiscuit.

Hope you are ok, we are all here if you want to talk.

UniS Fri 20-Jan-12 19:44:03

oh BUM scout that is such a pain in teh backside. Massive sympathy. Here, you can have teh last coffee cream chocolate.

Scout19075 Fri 20-Jan-12 20:00:03

<<Scoffs UniS's chocolates>> Need to bulk up on weight so I don't dip into double digits this time!

I'm okay-ish now. Yesterday, not so much. Deep down, though, I knew it hadn't work. I think I will eat as much chocolate and drink as much wine as I can while I can.

TS went all the way up to the top of the "big kids" bit at the soft play today -- the first time he had ever done it -- and I nearly burst into tears. blush Fortunately my friend was very supportive and understanding. My toddler's a boy now.

UniS Fri 20-Jan-12 20:11:23

Yay for brave TS.
Here scout, have a deep-fried battered pizza.

CMOTDibbler Fri 20-Jan-12 20:32:45

How about a battered creme egg to go with it too ?

Its bound to be a very emotional time, for lots of reasons, so make sure you acknowledge that and don't be too stoical. And know you can always offload on us

Donki Fri 20-Jan-12 20:41:37

<<Lowers large bucket of the universal panacea (tea) to Scout, with an infinite supply of her favourite chocolate>>

Scout19075 Fri 20-Jan-12 21:05:29

Who on earth thought up deep fried pizza?!

CMOTDibbler Fri 20-Jan-12 21:13:03

Its one of those chip shop things - all they had to cook in was the deep fat fryer, so when people fancied a pizza, the inevitable happened

How about some wine ?

I just looked in on ds - his rabbit was sleeping on the bed with him, and I didn't have the heart to put him back in the cage. Rabbit is soooo cute

Scout19075 Fri 20-Jan-12 21:21:31

I thought the deep fried candy bars at the state fair were a bit envy (tea room special). The pizza's a bit hmm envy.

A real rabbit? TS will be right over!

CMOTDibbler Fri 20-Jan-12 21:25:10

I agree totally that it is envy. Am not very good with greasy food anyway.

Real rabbit - he is gorgeous and bluey grey. If you are ever in the area, TS would be most welcome to come and cuddle him as he is a very social rabbit. He lives in Tiddlers bedroom, and spends most of his time roaming around in there

Scout19075 Fri 20-Jan-12 21:32:18

TS has been uncontrollably excited around the "tats" today. Poor cats. Their quiet lives have been disturbed. He went upstairs this afternoon to find all four black ones hanging around -- oh the squeals of joy and delight (he forgot "slowly and quietly, TS, and they'll let you stroke them"). CMOT, I fear your "bubby" wouldn't know what was coming after him with Toddler's enthusiasm.

CMOTDibbler Fri 20-Jan-12 21:40:37

Well, if he didn't like it, there'd still be 3 cats, 6 giant snails, 3 goldfish, and after a short car ride, a pony to harass...

UniS Fri 20-Jan-12 23:24:23

WOW , glad I'm not involved in mucking out at the dibbler household. Do you have a woodburner too?
DH is flicking through "eye spy the weather" and saying
yes, yes, I see one of those evry day, yes, yes, easy....

I shall break it gently that this is boys book, not his.

Scout19075 Sat 21-Jan-12 08:04:15

CMOT, not sure what TS would make of a pony -- they're bigger than him. Though he did start saying "horse" yesterday so maybe he'd be okay (there's a FP ride on horse here and he just pointed at it and said "horse" and went off to play with it).

How are your parents, CMOT?

My brain feels fuzzy -- like I haven't had enough sleep -- and TS wants me to keep drawing cats for him.

CMOTDibbler Sat 21-Jan-12 09:23:00

Dpony is pretty tiny, and there are minature ponies at the stables who are TS sized.

No woodburner sad

My parents are as manky as ever, and mum is on the urgent investigation pathway for GI cancer. Which the drs aren't telling her.

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Sat 21-Jan-12 10:47:50

Oh dear, Cmot. My dad is very wobbly too at the moment. I do sympathise. Have a large brew hot chocolate with extra sprinkles.

How are you today, Scout?

And arf at Dads who score full points in i-Spy books.

Scout19075 Sat 21-Jan-12 16:40:21

Bum for poorly mums and wobbly dads.

Silently chuckling at dad's who score points in iSpy books (sounds like something MrScout might try).

Maud, I think I'm okay today, thanks. Better than Thursday! grin I've sent you an incoming re Guides.

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Sat 21-Jan-12 17:25:47

Aha, just saw that. Am standing by the (virtual) letter box, waiting!

Scout19075 Sat 21-Jan-12 17:35:41

Virtual post sent!

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Sat 21-Jan-12 18:00:23

And returned!

Scout19075 Sat 21-Jan-12 19:11:24

I have the "Peppa Cochon" theme in my head. ARGH!

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Sat 21-Jan-12 21:55:22

Argh, indeed! We need a better song. I thought of you earlier when the students in the remake of Fame sang this one at talent night.

Did we bring the glitterball with us when we moved?

::throws shapes::

Scout19075 Sat 21-Jan-12 21:59:06

<<Throws shapes with Maud>> I watched this video earlier today. grin

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Sat 21-Jan-12 22:25:51
Scout19075 Sat 21-Jan-12 22:33:57

I do enjoy a good Olly song.

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Sat 21-Jan-12 22:36:46

To be honest, that's the only one I know.

I was introduced (not literally, sadly) to this gentleman by my SiL.

Scout19075 Sat 21-Jan-12 22:38:29

He's good, too. grin

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Sat 21-Jan-12 22:47:24

I just looked him up. He's Canadian. Who knew? Everyone but me, obviously.

This is what YT thought I should listen to next

Thumbwitch Sat 21-Jan-12 23:37:58

Glitterball is definitely here somewhere, I packed it myself smile

I've been over at the Nobdies' Birthday Party - it was wild!

Scout - hope you're feeling more on top of things now

CMOTD - that's a worry re. your mum sad

Hope all wobbly dads regain their stability - mine is, thankfully, not too bad still and very happy that we are coming over to see him again in March. I have had to make a wall chart for miniThumb to mark off the days until we leave - I'm hoping he'll get the idea that it's not "today?" every single day at some point!

I did smile at MrUniS and the Boy's book!

miniThumb will have his pony ride again in a couple of weekend's time - it's the local country show soon and they always have ponies to ride. When he's a little bigger I'll try and get him some lessons - I may have mentioned in here before that the local "school" aren't terribly helpful in the giving of information re. age he has to be and price of lessons, this year I'll make a note of the show-horse-lady's number and call her - she was far more use but I had no means of taking her number last time.

Scout19075 Sun 22-Jan-12 07:15:43

OMG -- Toddler just pointed at the non-black cat (out of five cats, four of them are black and get the generic "cat" since I can't tell them apart) and called her by name! shock Awwww, TodderBoy, that was lovely.

amberlight Sun 22-Jan-12 10:03:32

Scout, heck re the broken blood. Have more brew
CMOT, eek re manky parents...you'd better have brew as well.
And since yesterday was National Hug Day, we might risk offering some general entirely appropriate hugs for those in need also.
Or a formal handshake or comforting pat on the shoulder/copy of What Glacier Weekly to read if preferred.

Scout19075 Sun 22-Jan-12 14:11:54

My boys are building a Lego plane together. grin How sweet.

UniS Sun 22-Jan-12 18:25:46

ahhh, sweet lego building. My boys are tucked up on teh sofa, DH is reading the final chapter of " rusty the injured fox cub" aloud to boy. DH thinks this book is pants but he;'s been manfully ploughing through it for boy. I have a beast quest book lined for them on holiday.

UniS offers pats on teh shoulder to those who need them.

Jacksmania Mon 23-Jan-12 15:05:49

Good morning all!
Taught my pregnancy yoga class last night, putting everything together that I've learned, and would like to report that I was just about wetting myself right before it seemed to go over really well <phew>.

How is everyone today? I seem to have missed National Hug Day but since I'm always 8 hours behind you lot, I'll just sneak one (((((*HUG*))))) in, especially for Scout and CMOT (I missed the possible cancer Dx fit your mum, I'm so sorry) and anyone else who needs them.

CMOTDibbler Mon 23-Jan-12 18:54:18

Hurrah foir the good class Jm !

I'm finding it hard to get too worked up about mums investigations, which is awful really as I'm only too aware of the prognosis if they are positive. But compared to years of watching every bit that is her disappear... We used talk for hours on the phone, but this week she only talked for 6 minutes, 4 of which was her repeating on her fave subject (literally, she says this piece every conversation). Dad talked for 30 minutes though which is nice. We'll see what happens I suppose sad
Off to Switzerland tomorrow, so will have an exotic night at an M40 services due to leaving at yuck o clock, then go from Switzerland to Finland on Weds, home Fri. DS has requested Moomin products

Donki Mon 23-Jan-12 19:19:18

Excellent stuff JM - the first of many I hope!

I'm really sorry to hear about your Mum CMOT - Have a (((hug)))/manly pat on the shoulder/carrot/wine (delete as required)

I found the tea room a good place to be sometimes when Dad had had his diagnosis....

Belated thanks to you all thanks

Donki Mon 23-Jan-12 19:21:57

It looks as though there might be Aurora Borealis visible from the UK tomorrow night - weather and Coronal Mass Ejection permitting.

No chance at the Donki Stable - too much light pollution sad

UniS Mon 23-Jan-12 19:52:26

When Southampton is to the north of you.... sighting the northern lights seems very unlikely from the Chez Uni.

Donki Mon 23-Jan-12 21:14:02

It would have to be a severe magnetic storm for aurora to be seen in the Uni household!

Jacksmania Mon 23-Jan-12 21:54:15

And I think a storm of that magnitude (or should that be magnet-tude grin) might be a bit uncomfortable!

(You're welcome Donki.
And thanks to the tea room for putting up with me during my broken times.)

UniS Mon 23-Jan-12 22:02:36

Have you all survived the storm that lashed your neck of the woods last week JM? looked like a LOT of snow.

Bodes well for holiday- the childcare team in resort just phoned to have a chat about boy, likes, dislikes, talk me through their timetable and meals etc.

Thumbwitch Mon 23-Jan-12 23:18:35

JM - woohoo for good pregnancy yoga class! Glad you survived the rest of the course wink
Do you get to see the Aurora borealis from where you live? I'd love to see it, or the Aurora australis, not fussed really, they're probably both as good as each other!

miniThumb hasn't really got the Lego bug yet for which I (and my feet) am very grateful but there's plenty of time!

It's cooled down again - I am very happy but it's a bit odd! - apparently we have 80% chance of rain every day for the next week.

Burns night soon - DH is picking up our haggis today - yippee! Fried haggis is so much nicer than boiled...

Jacksmania Tue 24-Jan-12 01:26:04

Thanks UniS, we made it through the storm ok. It didn't affect me too much since I stayed downtown from Tues - Fri and only had to slither -skate slide fall on my arse every few steps walk about a minute from the hotel to class. Everything was covered in a few inches of ice several mornings running - whereas they got a huge dumping of snow further inland, right by the water where I was it rained ice instead.
DH canceled his client appointments though because he didn't think it was worth driving in that kind of weather, especially not to bring JB down to MIL's. She lives a bit more rurally than we do and her roads aren't cleared as well as ours. So he didnt really want to take the chance.
The temperature rose about 10 degrees by Friday and it started to rain heavily which made driving much less fraught. Several of the less busy roads near us still have sheets of ice on them which have been slow to melt. Fine if you're driving sensibly but if you insist on speeding you may find yourself facing the other direction very suddenly.

Scout19075 Tue 24-Jan-12 15:59:22

I've said it before and I'll say it again -- I love TS's swimming class. Second week in a row, though, that he's taken to doing cannonballs during their jumping in practice. The instructor thinks it's funny and after my initial shock last week I do to. It's a proper leap from the side and pulling of his knees up towards his chest and hitting the water with his bum & feet. He grins as he's taking off, under the water and up again (the scrambling to get up the wall and to do it all again).

beanandspud Wed 25-Jan-12 09:46:41

Good morning! Just made a brew if anyone is about.

Swimming sounds like good fun Scout - you'll have to get a video of TS doing cannonballs for posterity! I hope that you are ok and feeling a little better after last week.

Hideously busy at work so haven't been on here much, hope all of the tearoomers are having a good week!

Thumbwitch Wed 25-Jan-12 13:19:30

just running through to yell "Happy Burns night!" and do this:

See you tomorrow - just got to add this one cos it looks so cool! hmm


Jacksmania Wed 25-Jan-12 15:31:30

grin Thumb!

It's 07:30 here and JB has just woken up singing "Jingle Bells. Erm...., confused

Scout19075 Wed 25-Jan-12 16:46:38

That's okay JM, TS still has some wrapped Christmas presents from Christmas. blush I was just going to open them and incorporate the gifts as & when (the remaining presents are from Fr Christmas and my family so I know what they are) but TS spied them before I could and shouted "SANTA!" Oh dear. blush

I won't tell you what those Burns Smilies look like to me....

oxeye Thu 26-Jan-12 00:08:10

happy burns night! Glad you are all well, sorry to be absent, very busy at work but all well here. Love the swimming too, it's a great thing to do together isn't it Scout!
UniS you must be off skiing soon? I think that'll be ace! lots more snow apparently

Thumbwitch Thu 26-Jan-12 00:11:49

Ah no scout, g'wan, what do they look like to you? confusedgrin?

JM - miniThumb has been singing "Jingle Bells, Batman smells, Robin laid an egg.." for weeks now. Tis getting wearing!
Mind you, the whole "am I on Santa's naughty list?" thing is slowly wearing off (although he put me on it the other day for making him go to the loo, FGS!!)

beanandspud Thu 26-Jan-12 09:51:33

grin at miniThumb putting you on the naughty list. Small Bean was playing with his castle the other day and the princess was in the dungeon and all of the horses were in the camper van 'thinking about their behaviour'!!!

Scout19075 Thu 26-Jan-12 17:33:17

I hate being cold!!!!

Jacksmania Thu 26-Jan-12 17:53:42

Me, too.

UniS Thu 26-Jan-12 18:47:39

Any one for cake??

Jacksmania Thu 26-Jan-12 20:16:23

Or beef, barley and root vegetable stew? Yum...

On second thought, I'd rather have cake. What kind?

Jacksmania Thu 26-Jan-12 20:17:30

PMSL @ horses in camper van thinking about their behaviour grin

Donki Thu 26-Jan-12 20:39:38

We'll have the stew then JM
<<Snuggles down into hay pile with a good book>>
I refuse to work tonight.
Tomorrow is a training day.

beanandspud Thu 26-Jan-12 20:49:39

Yum - cake for me please. Not at all fussy what sort of cake it is. grin

Jacksmania Thu 26-Jan-12 20:52:55

Stew and cake coming right up. I think it's lemon shortbread pie. Or at least, I wish it were.

UniS Thu 26-Jan-12 20:54:31

This cake is very yummy, has nothingthat you are intolerant of and virtually no calories either.

, do help your self to a slice.

Mines coffee ( with out any walnut) .

2 sleeps to go. Well 1.5 sleeps really as have to be at airport at stupid O'clock.

CMOTDibbler Fri 27-Jan-12 09:16:11

Greetings from the snowy north ! It is beautiful and white here, and not too cold (-9C). I love being in the land of plentiful provision for food allergy - being able to ask casually for gf bread in any restaurant never fails to please me ! Home tonight though.

Scout19075 Fri 27-Jan-12 13:54:37

Have found someone who would be thrilled to have some of Toddler's baby clothes. I need to get them out of my house (they're staring at me, making me sad). Feel smile they'll have a loving home but sad as it won't be another Scout baby wearing them.

This is a big step.

Jacksmania Fri 27-Jan-12 15:30:13

Oh, it is, it's a huge step sad
I'm so sorry. ((((((((*HUG*)))))))

Scout19075 Fri 27-Jan-12 16:37:03

They are going to a friend who is unexpectedly pregnant after getting rid of all of her baby things (her youngest is a daughter & 10 months older than Toddler) thinking they weren't going to have any more babies. She's having a boy and seemed moved to tears when I offered her clothes, etc., to help. So I'm happy that Toddler's lovely BabyScout clothes are going to a home that will love and appreciate them. As we talked about it today she said she understood how hard it is getting rid of things and that the offer is really appreciated and gratefully received AND I'll have the added bonus of seeing the baby getting lots of use out of the clothes. YAY!

The thought of knowing who they're going to and how welcome they are has made it much easier to swallow. For someone who's not broody and perfectly okay with never having another BabyScout why is this so difficult?!

Donki Fri 27-Jan-12 17:46:03

Oooh! CMOT - when did you get to Finland? Have you seen the auroroa?
- I would be very jealous!

beanandspud Fri 27-Jan-12 18:25:20

CMOT - I hope you had chance to visit the Moomin shop? I was there with work when pregnant with Small Bean and came home with an enormous cuddly Moomin - lots of fond memories.

Has anyone got nice plans for the weekend? Is it wine o'clock yet?

Donki - how did your training day go?

(((hugs))) Scout - it is a big step.

Scout19075 Fri 27-Jan-12 18:48:59

I think, bean, it's ALWAYS wine o'clock.

Donki Fri 27-Jan-12 20:23:13

Training day was OK - much better than the CPD meeting yesterday after school. Which was universally thought to be dire.

Donki Fri 27-Jan-12 20:25:36

Thankyou for askingsmile

Definitely wine o'clock.

There is carrot cake on the side, with a delicious tangy, creamy frosting. Help youselves!

Scout19075 Fri 27-Jan-12 21:32:14

Anyone around tonight?

UniS Fri 27-Jan-12 21:35:27

Unis flits through breifly. blowing kisses and carrots indiscriminately round teh tea room.


And UniS skis off again. Love this southern Alpine location.

beanandspud Fri 27-Jan-12 21:42:59

Have a lovely holiday Unis!

I'm around Scout, can I pour you a wine? Or offer some vegetable curry? It's very quiet here at the moment.

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Fri 27-Jan-12 21:45:18

It is a big step, Scout. It just is. Maybe you could do a deal - swap the clothes for some thanks?

Scout19075 Fri 27-Jan-12 22:07:42

Thanks for the wine.

Speaking of steps, Maud, please tell Girl fanfare is still a hit. grin

Have gone through several bags of TS's clothes and have come up with two kitchen bags worth of clothes (size newborn to 12 mos) for friend. blush That's not including all of the stuff I pulled out for being too stained/worn/etc. blush That's a bit overwhelming for someone, isn't it?

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Fri 27-Jan-12 22:10:47

I will, Scout!

Two bags is generous but, if they are all sizes from newborn to 12 months, then probably not too much. We had/have no tumble drier so The Girl and I both own heaps of clothes because the laundry takes so long to dry in cold/wet weather. Add in all the extra laundry when babies are covering themselves in food or playdo or worse and you need plenty!

Scout19075 Fri 27-Jan-12 22:23:43

They are all sizes newborn to 12 months. A couple of things still have tags on them. blush Even found a couple of big furry fleecy all-in-one coats that take up a lot of space in a bag. She has commented on several occassions that she likes TS's outfits/clothes and how "cute little boy" he looks, and how she likes the clothes we get from the States, so in a lot of ways I enjoyed going through things for her knowing that she would probably like the outfits. I think if the items were laid out flat (not folded in a bag) it wouldn't look nearly so overwhelming. They're just tall kitchen bin liners, not proper bin bags.

Jacksmania Sat 28-Jan-12 01:28:55
Thumbwitch Sat 28-Jan-12 08:25:17

Scout - that is a big step, well done for taking it. I still have all miniThumb's stuff blush and keep wondering when I'm going to take the same step. Not just yet but soon enough, probably sad

CMOTD - am v. envy of the Finland trip - I'd love to go to a Moomin shop! And see the Aurora borealis.

UniS - oh there she goes, whooshing past on the slopes, having a grand time!

JM - ouchy! hope it gets better soon.

beanandspud Sat 28-Jan-12 11:36:33

Ouch JM - sounds very sore!

Small Bean and Mummy Bean are on our own this weekend. Just stopped for coffee in the middle of doing jobs. So far he has been given chocolates at the hairdresser and biscuits at the garage - if we carry on like this I won't need to feed him at all today! << not very balanced diet emoticon grin>>

Scout19075 Sat 28-Jan-12 12:22:40

Took a bag of onsies and babygros to the charity bin today. Oddly I felt nothing doing it -- then felt sad that I felt nothing. hmm Did rescue Toddler's first fake crocs from the bag, though, and put them in the special keepsake box along with his first swim trunks (which were already in the keepsake box). He couldn't walk when he had the first crocs but he had them for camp and the beach to protect his feet when he was crawling and cruising. They're so tiny compared to his shoes now. I just couldn't get rid of them. blush

How are you today, JM?

Happy skiing, UniS!

thumb -- did you take all of the stuff with you from the UK to Oz?

CMOTDibbler Sat 28-Jan-12 14:39:16

Home now grin - this week was Switzerland Tues/Weds, thence to Helsinki for Thursday and Friday. No northern lights sad, though I have seen them elsewhere. Moomin shop was duly visited, and ds has an enamel moomin mug and Moomintroll toy - he is vvvv happy.

I had a lovely hack out for an hour today at the stables dpony is moving to, as did ds (on one of their ponies) - very relaxed now, and ds is asleep.

brew and cinnamon buns for all smile

amberlight Sat 28-Jan-12 18:13:34

Oooo Moomins and brew and cinnamon buns sounds ideal to me! Thanks! Will add wine for those in need. And twiglets.

Jacksmania Sun 29-Jan-12 02:31:37

I'm such an idiot. Went snowshoeing with friends this morning. Made plans weeks ago. Didn't want to disappoint anyone. Though the exercise would help once the ibuprofen kicked in.

Let me just say... no. It didn't.

Thumbwitch Sun 29-Jan-12 04:00:03

Scout, I did - because everything here is vastly more expensive and worse quality than what I could get in the UK. Every time we go back it's a bit of a mammoth shopping expedition for miniThumb - I do buy clothes here for him when I have to but the quality is noticeably inferior. So yes, I did - because we were also hoping, expecting that another baby would come along soon, so we'd need them again. Have all the baby stuff as well - cot, playpen, all that - just no baby for it. sad

Even more envy of the moomin shopping now! My brother worked in Finland for a while (well, he mostly worked in the UK but for a Finnish company so had to go out there a few times - and he brought me back a baseball cap hmm with Little My on it - I'm sure he thought he was being humorous. <sigh>

JM - ouch! And tut.

Scout19075 Sun 29-Jan-12 19:45:26

<<Wags finger at JM>> You should know better, Young Lady. How are you feeling now?

Thumb, Toddler gets stocked up when we go to the US so I understand.

Jacksmania Sun 29-Jan-12 20:30:20

<bows head in shame>

Yes I really should. Am now paying for stupidity.

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Sun 29-Jan-12 20:45:42

JM - If you follow my appalling example and never stray from the sofa, you will be far safer and also several stone overweight.

CMOTDibbler Sun 29-Jan-12 20:54:56

Come and join me in the outdoor jacuzzi JM. I am also stiff and sore after a really good ride yesterday followed by two days of running with pony.

It is cold here - the cats are in front of the fire, the rabbit is in bed with ds, and I've raided the chocolate cupboard

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Sun 29-Jan-12 21:03:18

Can anyone join the pool party?

CMOTDibbler Sun 29-Jan-12 21:14:03

Absolutely ! <shoves up a bit>

My finnish colleagues were trying to get us to go to their office parties, and it did take some time for the penny to drop that the sauna and jacuzzi experience at the summer party didn't involve clothing. Even sex segregated, I am still not sure I am ready to see quite so much of my colleagues...

How are you Maud ? Reading anything good atm ?

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Sun 29-Jan-12 21:20:15

Ah, bliss! Gardening in cold weather always makes my back ache.

Years ago, I had to convince our [female] senior director that holding the women managers' get-together in the Covent Garden Sanctuary would possibly not encourage women to attend.

Well, I finished One Day, The Book of Lost Things and The Number One Ladies' Detective Agency and am now reading The Long Goodbye, which I love. I just bought the Guernsey Potato Pie etc book from the hospital bookshop, as a friend recommended it. And you?

beanandspud Sun 29-Jan-12 21:21:04

Is there anymore room in there?

<<distributes wine in obligatory plastic glasses>>

CMOT - I had a similar experience in the Nordics... not at all comfortable with seeing my colleagues or them seeing me 'au naturelle'.

I have just spent an hour ordering plants online (most satisfying) and trying to imagine the weather being good enough to get back out in the garden.

beanandspud Sun 29-Jan-12 21:22:55

Maud - I loved the Guernsey Potato book grin

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Sun 29-Jan-12 21:23:56

Where did you order your plants, Bean?

::Compulsive buyer of plants::

beanandspud Sun 29-Jan-12 21:28:23

Just from Dobies, Maud. Mostly fruit and veg but they have been great the last couple of years. I have also ordered a small greenhouse so very excited!!!

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Sun 29-Jan-12 21:31:11

Oooh, what kind of greenhouse? When I get the patio sorted, I am going to have a proper wooden growframe instead of the wobbly plastic thing I have at the moment. I am going to buy some more lily bulbs now, I think.

CMOTDibbler Sun 29-Jan-12 21:31:19

I've just finished a fascinating book about internal exile in Ialy during WW2, and am getting back into Maos Great Famine which is rather heavy going !
I do have a rather severe Kindle backlog too, due to downloading free books at a high rate
I wouldn't mind the Sanctuary - theres so few women managers in our company, that I think I have been swimming with most of them (at conferences) already. However, the time I did a conference in Brazil and my male colleagues were wearing budgie smugglers and talking to me by the pool is still burned into my brain <boak>

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Sun 29-Jan-12 21:33:19

Argh! It is going to take me a long time to rid my brain of the image, Cmot!

CMOTDibbler Sun 29-Jan-12 21:37:07

I need to get both of you over to help me sort my garden ! At least it is hard landscaped now, but still lacks a) grass and b) plants. In fact it has a deck (gigantic), and planters (which are structural in levelling the garden) and thats about it.
My grandparents would be ashamed of me, and my parents are. I come from a family of excellent gardeners blush

beanandspud Sun 29-Jan-12 21:44:07

CMOT - that's a pretty horrible image! But maybe being in Brazil makes up for it a little?

Maud - it's a 1.2m x 1.2m supposed 'patio greenhouse'. I am a little worried that it will be a bit plasticky but I don't have the space for a proper greenhouse at the moment and want to be able to do peppers, chillies, aubergines etc. that it's just not quite warm enough up here to do in the ground. I have also ordered a lot of gladioli bulbs as I love them in the house. Oh, and a small fig tree!

beanandspud Sun 29-Jan-12 21:45:09

Wahay! Meet up at CMOT's house!

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Sun 29-Jan-12 22:16:09

Cmot - Can you post a pic of your garden? In my mind, it looks rather like one I visited last summer as part of the National Garden Scheme. Do you not have someone coming to plant it?

CMOTDibbler Sun 29-Jan-12 22:21:26

I'll take a picture of it Maud. Though it will be considerably smaller than any NGS garden !

My trouble is not so much the deciding on plants, but the actually getting on and doing things in the garden. And as I am dependant on DH to shovel compost and carry things, we both have to be in the mood and have time.

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Sun 29-Jan-12 22:33:41

You'd be surprised - NGS gardens in London are just averagely-sized (by London standards and so probably smaller than your deck!) I have aspirations to join the scheme myself. I'll send you a pic of the one I'm thinking of.

I have friends who are garden designers and gardeners but I doubt they could travel that far!

mistlethrush Tue 31-Jan-12 09:02:16

Morning all! Sorry I've been away - but glad to have tracked you down in New Zealand - always wanted to visit! Laptop problems and home and general lack of time....

First ever pilates class last night... somewhat stiff! Didn't get told I was doing it all wrong though - and was only one thing I couldn't do (pushed tender bit of lower back onto mat too much).

CMot - I love planning gardens too - can I come? One of my favourite garden purchases places is this - often used for birthday etc purchases... unusual plants - sales are good too - and always in very good condition. Descriptions are good.

My mother has helped on the clothes front by organising a bit of a sale of 2 - 6 stuff from her house - got rid of lots of it which is good. Just have to take the plunge and get the baby stuff down from the loft now... and sell the buggy.

Mistlechick has just gone into size 1.5 shoes. And his age 7 school trousers are looking too short. And he's still not 7. hmm

beanandspud Tue 31-Jan-12 21:38:35

<<hangs up 'Happy Birthday' bunting ready for Small Bean>>

<<puts chocolate cake out ready on the side>>

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Tue 31-Jan-12 21:58:14


Aww. Bless him. Have you got something special planned for tomorrow?

Scout19075 Tue 31-Jan-12 22:02:23

Happy Birthday, SmallBean!

Jacksmania Tue 31-Jan-12 22:35:21

Happy birthday, Small Bean!! xo

beanandspud Tue 31-Jan-12 22:35:59

Thank you! He is so looking forward to tomorrow, it's lovely to see and makes me feel smilesad that my little boy is growing up.

Unfortunately I have to work tomorrow but I am going in late so he can open his presents and taking him out for tea later on. He has a party at the weekend to look forward to as well.

mistlethrush Tue 31-Jan-12 22:45:33

I hope you have a good first bit of the morning with him!

What are you doing for his party?

Thumbwitch Tue 31-Jan-12 23:35:04

Happy Birthday Smallbean! Have a lovely day.

Mistle - good to see you again smile

CMOTD - I am a not very good gardener as well, sadly. I love the idea of it, but planning is not a strong point and maintenance is just such hard work! Mind you, the garden is surviving better this year than previously as we're having so much rain - today is a case in point. It's quite chilly as well (hurrah!) - most odd considering that 2 days ago it was unbearably hot and sweaty, staying up at 28deg overnight (fan on all night) and yesterday was pretty foully hot and muggy too until the late evening when the temp just plummeted. Blankets back on the bed!

Maud - I am also a sofa-sitter. But yesterday I started adult tapdancing classes to try and redress the situation - only problem was I joined a class that has been doing it for 3 years and there was very little consideration given for the fact that I have never done it before - it was very "sink or swim"! Still, I shall go back next week and see how I get on.

Who has snow?

Donki Wed 01-Feb-12 19:48:28

Happy Birthday SmallBean - sorry it's late blush - I hope the Bean family had a good day!
<<Puts a carrot cake decorated with frosting to look like runner beans!>>

Donki Wed 01-Feb-12 19:48:45

Puts out

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Wed 01-Feb-12 20:24:46

Thinking of my own tap-dancing class, Thumb, getting stuck in with more experienced students is going to be the best and quickest way to learn. You'll soon catch up with the others, but they will hate you if you make them go back to basics. Just ask the teacher to explain or demonstrate again if you don't get what's going on.

beanandspud Wed 01-Feb-12 20:53:24

Pours winewinewine.

Mmmmmmmm, carrot cake - thank you Donki!

I now officially have a 4-year old!!! Small Bean had a fantastic day. We decorated the kitchen last night so he came down and just went 'wow'! Not surprisingly the level crossing and tunnel for his train track were the big hits (Scout - take note, they get years of fun from Brio!). Lots of very complicated lego that we will be able to put away for a bit later in the year.

MT - it is a <<whispers>> soft play party. It should be fine, most of the other parents are really good company and soft play just seems to be the thing to do at the moment.

TW - I now remember going to a tap dancing class a long time ago, I thought I had blanked it from my memory. Don't give up - I wish I had persevered rather than feeling that I was holding back my coordinated classmates.

Scout19075 Wed 01-Feb-12 22:17:11

Good to hear SmallBean had a good day. grin

Toddler has had his Brio out every day since we brought it home/put it out where he can reach it. He LOVES it. Took him to a creative kids group today (where they do crafts/painting/gluing but also have toys out) and he went straight for the Brio that had been set out/up. An hour there and he spent 45 minutes or so at the trains. hmm He's getting another piece (can't remember which one) in his Easter basket along with a chocolate bunny to add to his collection of bunnies.

Very envious of Maud's and Thumb's tap dancing classes. Having resigned my Guiding posts I'm contemplating doing something just for myself over the next year. Problem is trying to get MrScout to commit, and stick to, being home at the same time on a certain night of the week every week. Unfortunately his work, and the trains, don't work that way.

beanandspud Wed 01-Feb-12 22:30:12

Scout - I'm sorry I must have missed something, I hadn't realised that you'd resigned your Guiding posts.

I do sympathise with trying to do any sort of regular activity though - is there anything on a Saturday or Sunday that you could try?

Scout19075 Wed 01-Feb-12 22:41:16

Actually, bean, I'm not sure I made it public on here. blush Yes, I've given them up, effective the end of this term (Guides) and July/end of next term (Seniors). I need a medically induced break. I've done it for 30 years so don't feel guilty for looking after myself. But I would like to do something for myself -- something where I'm not responsible for Toddler and I'm not responsible for the health/safety/well-being of off-spring who aren't mine.

Weekends are just as challenging as the week -- we're regularly down at the inlaws (birthdays, holidays such as Easter, etc). I might just have to stomp my foot a bit or find something during the day that has a creche. <<Dreams of a cake & cookie decorating course....>>

Thumbwitch Thu 02-Feb-12 00:44:04

Aww Scout - I hope that resigning your Guiding wasn't too sad for you - it's been a long time. I hope you can find something good to do for just you that fits around your family.

I shall persevere with tap until it becomes apparent that I can't cope; or until my sciatica kicks in, whichever happens first. Flamenco brought on the sciatica after a few months; hoping this won't but you never know.

Hurrah for Small bean's 4th birthday success smile

It's very chilly here (ok, so it's still 18deg but it's meant to be summer!) and pouring with rain and I had to take miniThumb to his swimming class this morning - in an outdoor pool (albeit heated to 32deg). He was NOT happy. But in the end he got on with it - he was the only one who turned up so had a half hour private lesson, which was quite good for him really as he never got the chance to reflect on any issues, just had to get on with it.
I actually have my woolly jumper on! Indoors!! We're going to do some baking in a minute, haven't decided on pink biscuits or hot cross buns yet. smile

Jacksmania Thu 02-Feb-12 14:38:09

Meh. I think I'm getting DS's and DH's cold. Woke up with a sore throat. Nooooooooooooooo.... we have to get on a plane on Monday!! Going to Totonto to visit my mum for ten days. Ahhhh bliss, mum love... nooooooooo!!!! to the cold.

mistlethrush Thu 02-Feb-12 17:10:51

I have joined the gym - and been to a pilates class there - will go back, although I can't next week as DH is out playing. However, I've been having a go at the Wii fit whilst he's been out... with no one else there its fine! And I've managed to get top scores in some of the games - MT's not going to be happy! He likes the gym though as I got him membership at the same time (not expensive per month for children) and its got a nice pool.

Scout - sounds a good idea to me - do you have anywhere nearby that has a creche whilst you can do somethign for yourself? I can't remember how soon nursery places kick in for you - is that on the horizon yet?

JM - hope it goes quickly and that the flight's ok. I did a antenatal yoga class when I was pregnant - enjoyed it - and someone came along to photograph it for the newspapers - but I think that seeing around 15 - 20 ladies in various states of bumpfulness trying to do 'the tree' probably would have had everyone in fits of laughter grin

Scout19075 Thu 02-Feb-12 19:08:55

Who turned on winter and who gave them permission to?!?!

Jacksmania Thu 02-Feb-12 19:47:35

The same person who turned our sun off. I don't like that person.

Donki Thu 02-Feb-12 20:23:00

<<Donki hides in the priesthole, gibbering to herself, and muttering>>

It's a phase, it's just a phase, it's just a phase, it's just a phase, it's just a phase, it's just a phase, it's just a phase, it's just a phase, it's just a phase.

The YD is being bloody awkward at the moment. He is driving me/us round the bend.

He will not listen/follow instructions.


<<loud scream>>

Scout19075 Thu 02-Feb-12 20:34:43

<<Passes Donki a carrot flavored wine>> If it makes you feel any better I wanted to sell Toddler today, too. He got out of his high chair, turned around and sat on the tray -- straight onto his plate of pasta twirls with red sauce. It's funny now, not so much at 4:30 this afternoon.

CMOTDibbler Thu 02-Feb-12 20:44:18

how about some carrot vodka with carrot crisps ?

Scout, I think that you deserve a bit of decompression time, esp over the next year. And cutting down the IL time would give you a lot more relaxed time. Will TS be going to the nursery that he went to before during your treatments ?

Last week when I was away, one of the tyres on my car (DH had it) blew out. Last night I was away, and the gas fire stopped working. Is someone trying to tell me something ?

beanandspud Thu 02-Feb-12 21:02:28

<<tops up wine - carrot and otherwise>>

It will pass Donki (honest) but it's so, so frustrating. I feel like a broken record sometimes.

Scout - I had to smile at TS sitting in his dinner - I'm sorry! For what it's worth I tend to agree with CMOT that there is a case for putting yourself (and the Scout family) first for a while.

MT - Pilates sounds good - and I love 'bumpfulness'!!!

CMOT - are you at home this week or traveling again?

I hope you feel better JM. Small Bean has horrible croupy/chesty cough sad. He's fine in himself but it's horrible to listen to him hacking away.

CMOTDibbler Thu 02-Feb-12 21:08:54

It was only a one night trip this week - the office is 150 miles away and I needed to visit some engineers to do with my new products. This generated lots more work to do. Bah.

Those croupy coughs are yuck. DS coughs continually from September to April, and it rarely bothers him, but it does me

Donki Thu 02-Feb-12 22:25:34

<< Drinks wine in one gulp>>
<<Siezes carrot Vodka and downs the lot>>
Thankyou CMOT and Scout!
<<Hides under hay pile>>

Thumbwitch Thu 02-Feb-12 23:36:31

<<tops up various carrot-based alcoholic drinks for Donki>>

They can be challenging at times, can't they? Someone has started a thread on here asking about the terrible twos, do all children go through them - and it is indescribably relieving to know that other children wait until they are 4 or so to start (I know you all told me on here as well smile) with the brattish behaviour.
Having said that, miniThumb seems a little better since taking him to preschool, even just one day a week - dropped him there this morning and he was fine, barely had the time to say goodbye to me! Very happy for him.
I have no idea what to do if he does get much worse though, tbh. Will have to cross that bridge when we get to it. confused

Could croupy coughs be asthma-related? I suppose it depends how long they last.

It has now been raining for 3 days straight. While I am very happy that it's not hot, the rain is tedious and slowing me down from doing things I need to, like bedlinen washes. I prefer to hang them outside to dry if possible but no chance at the moment - in fact, hanging them inside wouldn't get them dry at the mo because there is too much moisture in the air and our washroom has a concrete floor, so stays damp. <sigh>

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Fri 03-Feb-12 12:39:58

YoungDonkey and The Girl are at an age that can be utterly, head-bangingly exasperating very demanding of parental time and patience, Donki.

::Strokes your eyes in a way that suggests solidarity and fellow-feeling::

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Fri 03-Feb-12 12:40:47

Argh. That should have said ears. Stroking eyes would just be creepy.

Scout19075 Fri 03-Feb-12 12:46:58

I've done it -- I've given away Toddler's newborn and young baby clothes. Feel a vague sense of relief, actually. hmm

mistlethrush Fri 03-Feb-12 12:54:31

Donki - yesterday morning, MC was doing low-key arguing before school - or statements that were blatantly untrue. He continued in the car. At one point I suggested I think that he should change his ideal job to road sweeper (not that there is anything wrong with that worthy profession, but it possibly takes a little less accademic dedication than surgeon which is still at the top of the list) due to his innability to listen and actually hear what was said and remember it... And things continued in the same light going into school - and he implied I'd been slow getting up the stairs whereas, in fact I'd gone straight up just not pushed past lots of people on the way... he then (when I remonstrated) mimed to his friends that I was going on talking at him and I wasn't standing for that and told him very quietly what the consequences would be - the culmination of this was that I walked off effectively abandonning him as I was so furious at his behaviour. I stomped most of the way through school before I decided that I had better go and apologise to his teachers about his anticipated behaviour - but by the time I got up there he was nearly in tears so we made up. I'm VERY pleased to say that today was MUCH better! On a side note, I was thinking we'll have to work out when small animals might be at the farm that we didn't visit when we met up - and perhaps sort out a day at the weekend when we might be able to do a combined visit....

Snow on the tops round here this morning - and wonderfully sunny day - but very cold. It is about time that we had a decent cold snap though - hopefully will kill off some bugs in the garden.

mistlethrush Fri 03-Feb-12 12:55:04

Well done Scout! (x post) - I'm getting there!

Scout19075 Fri 03-Feb-12 19:36:26

Is anyone around for some Friday evening wine?

Donki Fri 03-Feb-12 19:43:15

<<Pokes head out from haypile in the hopes of more carrot vodka!>>

Work is not going well at the moment either which doesn't help. I have got myself into a spiral of too much to do (partly own fault, partly works for expecting too much) leading to panic attacks which means I don't get more work done.....etc......

Not good. nor does it help with dealing with an obstreperous YD

[expletive of your choice]


Scout19075 Fri 03-Feb-12 19:49:14

<<Passes an extra large carrot vodka down the priest hole to Donki>>

Would an ear rub help as well?

Donki Fri 03-Feb-12 19:52:58

Ear rubs are always soothing, thanks Scout

CMOTDibbler Fri 03-Feb-12 20:02:17

It must be a carrot sort of cake day I think ? And some twiglet a la mode perhaps ?

Scout19075 Fri 03-Feb-12 20:03:53

Mmmm, cake.

beanandspud Fri 03-Feb-12 20:53:37

wine? Yes please! Passes a carrot muffin down to Donki and leaves assorted nuts and nibbles on the side.

Thank goodness it's the weekend. No snow (yet) but it is absolutely Baltic here.

Jacksmania Sat 04-Feb-12 05:42:17

Just a quick hello.
I caught DH's cold. My bum hurts every time I sneeze. Apologies if nobody needed to know that. My left butt cheek is purple. Nobody probably needed to know that either.

<JM withdraws to the priest hole, dignity in shreds>

Thumbwitch Sat 04-Feb-12 06:58:19

JM - grin at the sharing! Ouch to the sore bits, especially when sneezing.

Donki - that sounds painful. MiniThumb is also v. argumentative. I give up regularly as he just keeps going, tis very tedious. I think I only have myself to blame though as I fear I was the same at his age and possibly still am blush

brew and croissants to anyone who feels the need, wine to anyone in other time zones who might still be awake and banana loaf with pecans and chocolate chip on the side for anyone who might be tempted. (I'm not so good with carrot cake but I make a mean banana one!)

Went to the local country show this morning - thank goodness it stopped raining at last! - ground was still very muddy but at least it was dry and warm, so miniThumb got his pony ride (a regular feature at these events) and a blue balloon dog and that was him made up for the day. smile
DH bought some very expensive frying pans but that made him happy so hurrah.
This afternoon I made above-mentioned banana loaf, but it's taking its own time to cook properly. Needed extra above the hour suggested, but that's not unusual for my oven!

Scout - well done for disposing of baby clothes - glad you only feel relief, that's good.

UniS Sat 04-Feb-12 18:11:47

UniS skids to a halt just outside teh tea room door. Here, I bring frozen carrot vodka (?) It warm you up in Russian alpine style. Did you know haribo freze? in a pocket, while sking, they go VERY chewy.

I know its early yyet, but can teh tea room perch in one of these opulent & OTT chalets some time?

Scout19075 Sat 04-Feb-12 21:37:36

<<Scout sneaks in, throws a snowball into the tea room and runs out the door again>>

Jacksmania Sat 04-Feb-12 22:00:17

<JM considers leaving the priest hole, but having once again overshared, decided to stay put>


<sneaks out the back way to go sit in the snow>

Scout19075 Sat 04-Feb-12 22:23:11

<<Throws a snowball at JM>>

Personally, JM, I had a bit of a giggle over your previous post and didn't see it as oversharing. Though sitting in the snow may help releave some of the pain/swelling.

Did anything arrive at yours today?

UniS Sat 04-Feb-12 22:32:57

good idea to sit in the snow JM. I have bruised calf muscles, this is because I lean too far back when skiing. my own fault and thus I am not allowed to whinge ( according to DH) bah humbug.

I'm going to join you in the snow JM, shall we make snow angels??

and drink Van chaud??or do you prefer hot chocolate?

Jacksmania Sat 04-Feb-12 22:38:41

No, nothing in the post sad
Will have to ask lovely neighbours to keep an eye out for any parcels.

Scout19075 Sat 04-Feb-12 22:52:07

D'oh! You know, JM, Murphy's Law states it will arrive the first day you are gone.

Ohhhhh, JM, I've heard they're going to be opening Target stores in Canada -- will any of them be near you?

UniS, are you still out-and-about enjoying the snow skiing?

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Sat 04-Feb-12 22:55:09

Whee!! We have snow. I'm hoping it will last long enough for sledging tomorrow and then conveniently disappear before I have to go to work.

Scout19075 Sat 04-Feb-12 23:02:21

Us, too, Maud! I dug out TS's snow dungerees this morning and tights. We got him a new pair of boots, thick socks (to go on over the tights) and his first ever sled(ge) which he picked out the color he wanted. I'm ready with my camera so the AmericanScoutCamp can have new pictures. grin

UniS Sat 04-Feb-12 23:07:22

back home again.
not much snow HERE, but thr hill above our house has been covered in teh stuff all week I'm told.

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Sat 04-Feb-12 23:07:29

By a stroke of luck, my thermal socks arrived today! Did you ever get your super-duper thermal socks?

Scout19075 Sat 04-Feb-12 23:11:04

I got three pair over Christmas week -- two of which are too big for my baby feet and the third should be too big but actually aren't too bad. They're all too big/thick for the tennis shoes I'm currently living in but I wear them around the house and to bed and they are wonderful. My "furry feet" amuse MrScout but they keep me warm.

<<Tosses a snowball in Maud's direction>>

Welcome back, UniS!

UniS Sat 04-Feb-12 23:11:49

ohhhh, thermal socks, winner idea.

Have sort of arranged a swap to get DS a climbing frame a bit like this one for his birthday!!! its currently 2 doors down the road and the child it's owned by is now a teen. bottle of wine and box of chocs seems like a good price. They say they have tent and platform for it still, which would make a fab den.

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Sat 04-Feb-12 23:21:49

Wow, Unis! You're getting that as a swapsie for wine and chocs? Fab deal.

Yes, Scout, I remembered that the socks were too big for your dainty feet, that's why I wondered whether you had got that sorted. I never have such problems. Harrumph.

Jacksmania Sat 04-Feb-12 23:23:51

Scout, YES to a Target near us!!!!!! 5 mins from work, 15 mins from home!!!

Scout19075 Sat 04-Feb-12 23:31:00

Working with Target as a contractor was a pain in the @rse bum but the things they do right they do very very well.

Wow, UniS, that's a GREAT swapsie!

Scout19075 Sat 04-Feb-12 23:35:35

Oh, and JM, we might need to do another swapsie -- some MP brand stuff for chocolates (or anything else from here you'd like).

Jacksmania Sat 04-Feb-12 23:46:37

Just let me know what you need. I could still send it off before I leave Monday mid-day, or from Toronto! smile

Scout19075 Sat 04-Feb-12 23:51:14

Nothing I need, JM, but thanks. Just thinking for later, you know, when all the rubbish starts up again. A package from almost home would cheer me up. Which reminds me, I need to add chocolate to the shopping list.

Scout19075 Sat 04-Feb-12 23:52:45

Oooohhhh, they've changed our snow projectio to 15 cm/6 in now. grin Wahoo!

Jacksmania Sat 04-Feb-12 23:59:26

Any time Scout. Just let me know. ((((*HUGS*))))

Scout19075 Sun 05-Feb-12 10:49:29

Toddler's hating the snow. sad He loves the idea but actually hates it.

Thumbwitch Sun 05-Feb-12 11:20:26

Ah scout, that's sad!
I remember the first time miniThumb went in the snow - he was only teeny and could only just walk and I, like a complete IDIOT, hadn't realised that his shoes were going to let ice-cold stuff melt onto his socks, making his feet ice cold too. Can't believe I did that - so for about a minute he was all "yay!" and then he was all "WAAAHHHHHHH!!!" until I managed to chafe his feet warm again. blush

Very envy of the snow - bet there's none in March. Mind you, I wouldn't want our flights to be affected by it so perhaps I'll not worry too much!

We went to the beach this afternoon and the waves were amazing - mostly way too dangerous to swim in, the No swimming signs were up and only a small flagged area had people allowed in. DH and miniThumb jumped in and out of the wash and had a fine time, but the rips were almost visible, the contrasting currents and wave directions - quite scary if they had gone any deeper than knee-deep!

Hope all bumps, bruises, muscle strains and other aches and pains are sorted out ASAP for everyone smile

Scout19075 Sun 05-Feb-12 11:45:25

He's not the only one -- several other under-3s on my road/the closes off my road were wailing this morning, too. He didn't even want to go for a ride in his sled where he wouldn't have to touch it. Oh well. My brother hated it until he was four and now loves it so there's still hope.

beanandspud Sun 05-Feb-12 20:38:03

Warning... self-indulgent post coming...

We had Small Bean's party today, despite a few hours this morning when we thought we would have to cancel due to snow. He had such a great time, just smiled all the way through, was so polite to everyone, and his little face when he led the 'birthday parade' and sat in his 'throne' for tea was a picture. I am a very proud mummy (I am sure this phrase is forbidden on mn) - especially when he took it upon himself to introduce his nursery friends to his other friends "Boris, this is Donald... Donald, this is Boris from nursery" smile.

Scout - I'm sure that Small Bean wasn't keen on snow when he was TS's age - this morning he spent an hour flinging himself into the piles of snow as were clearing the drive so it does change!

Unis - so glad that you had a good holiday - I vote for for going to the chalet that you posted!

TW - do you have a plan for your time over here? Will you be traveling or staying in the same place?

wine, party biscuit and birthday cake for all!

CMOTDibbler Sun 05-Feb-12 20:56:55

Thank you for the birthday cake Bean. I love the thought of smallbean doing formal introductions.

Today I faced my fears and went to scope out Pony Club - the thought of the horsey mums was terrifying. But they were v nice.

Blasted tennis elbow is back. 3 steroid injections and a vast amount of physio don't actually seem to have worked long term. Am rather despondent about it tbh

Thumbwitch Mon 06-Feb-12 04:28:54

CMOTD - did they work on your shoulder as well? Although it's likely that the elbow stuff is coming from your wrist and may never be fully treatable because your wrist isn't fixable. sad
I had a client who broke her elbow in a foreign country, had it pinned but the pin slipped and she couldn't use her elbow properly - the knock-on effect up into her shoulder was dramatic and although the docs treated her shoulder, it didn't do anything for her until they sorted out her elbow - once we got working on a joint program (no pun intended) where the physio worked her elbow and I worked the arm muscles up into the shoulder, improvement happened. Treating her shoulder in isolation was useless (they gave her steroid injections too).
Ditto a lady with a collis fracture of her wrist - her whole arm went into spasm but she didn't really complain until it reached up into her shoulder, when she was referred for physio for her shoulder, they told her she had a frozen one and suggested an osteopath, the osteopath said it was muscular and moved her on to me. I worked on her hand and helped her wrist get more mobile and her shoulder problem disappeared.
So my point is perhaps you should have the muscles in your whole arm treated, rather than injecting the joint, as the chances are that they are spasming because of the wrist injury.

Glad the Pony Club went well smile

Bean - glad smallbean had a great party and love his social skills! smile

Cake - mmmmmmm.

CMOTDibbler Mon 06-Feb-12 08:52:13

Thumb - tennis elbow is on my good arm sad The other arm is stuffed from shoulder down.

Thumbwitch Mon 06-Feb-12 09:00:32

OOHhhhhhh - that's no good, sorry to hear that sad

mistlethrush Mon 06-Feb-12 12:41:28

sad at the Tennis elbow CMot. Just a quick check on it - do you drink much coffee or have high caffeine drinks - sounds peculiar but my father can't drink normal coffee because the caffeine in it puts his back muscles into spasm - my uncle scoffed at the idea until his shoulder got bad - then he changed from normal to decaff coffee and it helped significantly - and he stopped scoffing.

Glad the ponyclub parents were friendly. I have quite a few of them on the school run every morning / evening and parties - and it can be quite daunting!

MC had an awful time in snow on sunday morning. I think he was tired - and he was trying out his new (christmas present) saucer - found it difficult because he's used to going down definitely fowards and able to steer to some degree of accuracy on the toboggan - and this needed you to hold on and not worry which way you went.... so when he was using his hands to try to steer and brake he wasn't holding on so he didn't feel stable ... any way, vicious circle that didn't end well. Might take it to a different part of the park if there's a next time this winter.

UniS Tue 07-Feb-12 18:54:17

Happy Waitangi day.

As the tea room is currently perched in the NZ alps it seems appropriate we should celebrate .

The NMBs have been practising their haka and Mellors is on standby to rub noses with any one who cares too.

Jacksmania Wed 08-Feb-12 00:00:10

In Toronto at mum's. Jet lagged. With jet lagged nearly-four-year-old. Sitting on couch with him watching Mickey Mouse DVD in hopes he'll pas out any second now. So I can, too. Flying with a cold + getting in at 9 pm when 4-year-old has sat still for 4 1/2 hours (he was bloody amazing on the flight) and his body thinks it's only 5 pm or so + having to get up early next morning for eye appointment = barely holding it together by 6 pm the following day.
Love to all of you, especially those injured and in pain of whatever kind.
Back tomorrow.

Thumbwitch Wed 08-Feb-12 01:49:11

I love watching the haka. I particularly like the flash hakas that occur in shopping centres occasionally. smile

JM - that sounds rough. sad Hope you got some sleep!

UniS Wed 08-Feb-12 10:38:47

chilly this morning, who would like a brew to warm them up?

Scout19075 Wed 08-Feb-12 16:57:48

Oh, yes please UniS. ScoutCamp is f-f-f-freezing!

Maud, would Girl like to take Toddler babysit tonight while I go to Seniors. He's a right old whingy boots today and I'm just not sure I have the strength to cope with Seniors (as lovely as they are), crochet lessons (tonight's activity) AND Toddler.

beanandspud Wed 08-Feb-12 20:46:31

:: snuggles up in a comfy chair with a brew, a blanket and a book ::

This has been a very long week, is it really only Wednesday? I am clearly getting far too old for two nights of being away and socialising with much younger work colleagues. I think I remember now why pleading a headache/work to do/desperately needing an early night is a much better option.

UniS Wed 08-Feb-12 20:48:10

are you crocheting a blanket or a straight jacket scout?? Sounds like toddler may benefit from the later at seniors.

Cake- I have cake, would you like some? Chocolate with choc butter cream, hundreds and thousands AND choc butons. Or if you prefer, something quite other....

We had breaded chicken strip things for tea tonight! in wraps with a winter salad* and ( for DH and I, boy disdains sauces) mayo and sweet chilli sauce. They were very yummy and a nice easy tea.
* the frost has killed off the lettuces ( finally) and the chard is drooping but hid some nice young perky leaves, perpetual rocket in a tub in green house is going strong, greenhouse tub of chives had a few. other stuff from fridge was red pepper, cucumber and celery and carrot. all sliced fine.

Think I'll take advantage of teh alpine tea room and bundle up for a bit of night time skiing with mellors as my flaming torch bearing guide.


Scout19075 Thu 09-Feb-12 09:35:37

grin at UniS. Didn't think of crocheting TS a straight jacket. Maybe next time. We learned two different stitches and made flowers. Well, mine's only partially done -- TS kept climbing all over me and needed a nappy change and wanted me to read. It's definitely a thing to do when TS is NOT around since I have to concentrate on what I'm doing. Found it enjoyable, though, so I might have to get some cheapy wool & hook and practice.

Actually, I think a trip to the craft store is in order this weekend. I want to make Toddler (and have him make) some puppets for his puppet theater thingy so we can get it out and start playing with it. Maybe some wool and a hook to practice crochet and I want to get back into cross-stitch -- it doesn't take up much room, it's easy to put away at the end of a night, and I can pick it up and put it down again with ease.

bean, I agree, it's been a very long week.

CMOT, how are you feeling. sad Such a downer about your elbow.

<<Waves at JM>> Enjoy Mom cuddles! And hope JB's jetlag is over quickly. Nothing worse than a jetlagged little one. Hopefully when you return home you'll have a package waiting for you.

Oh, bean, I kept meaning to say that I loved your stoy about smallbean at his birthday party. grin

A group of us meet up in a village hall to run around, play games, do activities, etc., but we cancelled it because of the icy conditions to get to said village hall. One of my friends said "oh, well let's meet at my house, it's big enough for everyone." She lives in a converted pub and it was FABULOUS! Oh did I have house envy. I know I shouldn't but I did and all I kept thinking was "We could live in a house like this." Her daughter, who's 3 1/2, LOVES toddler so from the minute we were in the door was "Toddler, let me show you the toys" and "Toddler, do you want to play with my trains" and "Toddler, let's go into the playroom." They sat on the floor in front of the train table playing and she kept putting her arm around him in a very content "I have a friend and he's here playing trains with me" sort of way -- and he sat there and let her. It was so adorable.

Scout19075 Thu 09-Feb-12 20:30:41

MrScout's still not home -- would anyone like his dinner before I eat it?

Scout19075 Fri 10-Feb-12 08:35:01

&$(£!%$&(!&%)(%&$&!(%!&%(£!!! STUPID BOILER!!!


It's packed it in AGAIN.

A couple of weeks ago. Last week it thought of packing it up but it came to life. Now it's kicked it again. Always, always, ALWAYS on a Thursday overnight.

When they came to fix it last time they were supposed to come back and service it (at least that's what MrScout asked them to do). They never did. Damn [bleep bleep bleep] boiler.

It's so cold and we have no hot water, either. There goes the lovely shower TS & I were going to have before meeting up with friends.


Scout19075 Fri 10-Feb-12 13:54:05

The plumber can't come until next week so ScoutCamp is decamping East Anglia and heading to the Thames Valley to be warm.

CMOTDibbler Fri 10-Feb-12 14:24:48

Gah for you Scout. Why do boilers do that ?

Back home after little trip to Germany. Am tired after an early start this morning, only to get to the airport and find a 90 minute delay.

mistlethrush Fri 10-Feb-12 14:38:17

That must be really annoying CMot.

Scout - i hope the boiler gets fixed soon. They always go wrong in the winter - normally at the worst time of year. Ours went wrong three years running at Christmas. Current one (although older) has been slightly better behaved - although it has a tendency to go out and sometimes refuse to produce hot water - never in front of the boiler repair man though - that would be just too convenient.

Cold here today, but haven't got the snow that was forecast for last night.

amberlight Fri 10-Feb-12 19:45:49

Some snow here. Melting a bit now though. FineLad is playing national rugby again at the weekend so we're hoping it's at least warm enough for the match to happen.

<leaves out a pile of What Snowman Weekly and some twiglets, and re-plumps the hay pile>

Scout19075 Fri 10-Feb-12 20:35:06

Movin' Right Along in honor of the new Muppets movie, opening in the UK today. grin

mistlethrush Fri 10-Feb-12 20:53:27

mistlechick was asked what his favourite pop group was at school. He said The Commitments and Queen. Something tells me that that was possibly not the most expected response. grin

CMOTDibbler Fri 10-Feb-12 21:16:29

grin MT. Very popular here too.

beanandspud Fri 10-Feb-12 21:34:51

Good evening all!

There was snow here last night but I was in a meeting about 70 miles away today and there wasn't any snow at all - no wonder the chap I was meeting thought I was a bit odd when I suggested that I might not make it!

Small Bean has his first proper swimming lesson tomorrow - please keep your fingers crossed for us...

Hope you are now warmer Scout? Bah to broken boilers! We have an annoying condenser one that shuts down in very low temperatures but touch wood seems to be rescued when you chip the ice from the outside pipe.

On a different note we had a RL hot tub last night in -3 degrees - it was most lovely!

I have lots of wine - who would like a top up?

Scout19075 Sat 11-Feb-12 18:11:06

wine anyone?

Scout19075 Sat 11-Feb-12 22:08:17

No takers? sad

mistlethrush Sat 11-Feb-12 22:27:00

wine yes please

beanandspud Sat 11-Feb-12 22:57:30

Me too! DH and I have actually been out on our own for the first time in 10 months. Finally, I think we have a babysitter! wine!!!

Jacksmania Sun 12-Feb-12 01:55:54

hi everyone, might not be online for a while, had PRK laser eye surgery thurs to correct my vision, takes a while to heal. everything is blurry, both far and near, should improve in a week or so. dint want anyone to worry if im awol. will update when i can. love to all of you. hope ypure all wll. xxJM

CMOTDibbler Sun 12-Feb-12 08:02:21

Good luck JM - hope you have a speedy and uneventful recovery.

Woohoo Bean - a good babysitter is a wondrous thing

Scout19075 Sun 12-Feb-12 12:31:41

<<Sends JM chocolate to help speed along her recovery>>

Yay for a babysitter for SmallBean!

Still in the warmth of my P'siL house. Looking at all sorts of toy catalogs and wishing we lived in a shoebox instead of a matchbox so we could have just a few more toys for Toddler. I've been having a declutter and re-arrange and realized he really doesn't have very many toys for his age (lots of train track and some people (fanfare still much loved and played with, Maud!) and loads of books). I'm not saying he needs loads, but a bit more variety would be nice. MiL gives Easter presents so has given me catalogs to look at so she can buy him something.

Found out more about my SiL and that branch of the family. It makes me sad to hear how things are going (or not) over there and how they treat my PiL.

MrScout's gone off to the home improvement store. I might go to the craft shop after lunch and have a Toddler-free wander.

Scout19075 Sun 12-Feb-12 16:17:49

Does anyone have a toy cash register recommendation?

Scout19075 Sun 12-Feb-12 20:55:45


beanandspud Sun 12-Feb-12 21:19:50

Scout! Yes please to wine!

I don't have a cash register recommendation I'm afraid - I believe the ELC do one that gets good reviews though.

I have been trying to think about the toys that Small Bean has had most use from and despite having a lot of 'stuff' he always goes back to his trains and cars. I would recommend the ELC Big City Garage and fold-up Big City if you are looking for ideas - hours and hours of fun! We have a lot of tractors, cars, aeroplanes etc. that still get a lot of play. He is just getting into Playmobil but think TS might still be a bit too little? Other 'hits' were the Crazy Coupe car for outside and also his trike and scooter.

JM - fingers crossed for a speedy recovery. I have often considered LASIK but unless someone can guarantee me 20:20 vision (I am very, very shortsighted and have worn contact lenses for about 20 years) I don't want to take the risk.

Scout19075 Sun 12-Feb-12 21:34:05

Thanks, bean. Yes, TS likes the crazy coupe but we simply don't have the room so we leave those sort of toys for groups. He has a scooter but we haven't taken it out yet due to the weather. He loves anything with wheels and his train is the biggest hit ever. I know, though, that he likes cash registers (always checks them out in shops and at the one tot group that has some) and MiL wants to get him a toy for Easter so I thought that might be a good idea. We have some play food and a set of play dishes (I think it's called a "coffee set" since it came with a coffee pot and not a tea pot) so a register would add benefit to those, I think.

ChoccyJules Sun 12-Feb-12 21:42:45

(Settles down next to the sofa so she can lean against it) hi I have a 3 yr old daughter and am joining the thread to benefit from the collected wisdom!

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Sun 12-Feb-12 21:44:13

Whoops. This dropped off my 'threads I'm on' list.

We're going to the Muppet movie tomorrow. Wey-hey!

beanandspud Sun 12-Feb-12 21:50:41

Welcome ChoccyJules! Not sure that I can offer much in the way of wisdom but I can generally be relied on to have wine and nibbles.

I have a Small Bean who is just 4 years old. Make yourself at home - we don't always make sense but we are a friendly bunch!

Hello Maud - my greenhouse arrived yesterday and I am just waiting for slightly-less-baltic weather to put it up grin.

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Sun 12-Feb-12 21:53:21

Hello ChoccyJules! Welcome!

A greenhouse? Woohoo!

UniS Sun 12-Feb-12 21:55:08

How did fine lad get on? He wasn't in teh 5 nations was he??

We was in the midlands and the ground was frozen very hard indeed, we went for a walk across a marsh, no danger of falling into deep muddy places this time ( unlike one or two previous walks there)

Boy has a day of off road cycle training and racing tomorrow! I am expecting he will get VERY muddy, have complete change of clothes packed for him and am thinking I'll take garden overalls and wellies for me. and 2 flasks, one with hot drink, one with warm water for a wash down of boy before he's allowed in the car.

amberlight Mon 13-Feb-12 08:09:25

FineLad's game was called off due to the snow. No, he doesn't play for the 6 nations - he does national 18-20s. But we are so just excited as we've found out he's got into Uni from September. (Those who know FineLad's situation will know why we're so excited).

brew available.

Hi Choccyjules!

Jacksmania Mon 13-Feb-12 12:36:43

Hi choccyjules, welcome.
I'm the Canadian member of the Tea Room, currently in Toronto visiting my mum. Home is near Vancouver.

Oh look, I can see you all more clearly. Phew. About time. I have to say that this PRK vision correction is not for the faint of heart. I had LASIK many years ago (16 actually) and it was a breeze, 5 hours later my vision was brilliant. This is a bit different and I found it really scary. Could hardly see anything for the first two days, then yesterday it all became more clear.

Oh, and it's JB's 4th birthday today smile
Happy birthday my sweet love!

CMOTDibbler Mon 13-Feb-12 13:43:28

Happy Birthday JB !!!

Welcome ChoccyJules grin. I have a 5 yr old DS who has a lot of energy. And cheekiness.

beanandspud Mon 13-Feb-12 14:36:40


Happy 4th birthday JB!!!

Donki Mon 13-Feb-12 15:10:05

<<There is an eruption from the hay pile in the priesthole>>
<<Shaking seeds and hay everywhere, Donki emerges blearily>>
What day is it?
Gosh, that time already!
Happy Birthday JB!
Welcome to ChoccyJules smile I have a 9 year old YoungDonki.
Congratulations Amber to FineLad - you and he have come a long way.

I am hoping to get on top of things over half term - instead of having them on top of me...

<<hides gold medal for procrastination>>

Carrots for anyone who wants, on the side!

Scout19075 Mon 13-Feb-12 16:50:14

<<Runs to the priest hole for cover>>

Boiler a big problem. Think it may have just stopped again, 1/2 hour after plumber left.

Also had a burst pipe to the back garden tap even though the stopcock was shut off (it must not have been tight enough) because we don't use it.

<<Weeps silently>>

I'll come back in a bit to say hello properly.

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Mon 13-Feb-12 17:01:08

Juice wine for birthday boys and ((hugs)) and thanks for those with plumbing problems!

Scout19075 Mon 13-Feb-12 21:01:50

<<Waves from the priest hole>>

Hello, Choccy! I have ToddlerScout (aka TS), he's 2.3 and great. But I'm biased. wink

YAY!!! for FineLad! I think this is a good cause of wine.

Happy birthday, JB!!!! And it's good to see you, JM. wink

Thanks for the carrots, Donki, and for the flowers Maud.

Boiler still churning out heat. But it's so cold. I think it's going to take several days to get the chill out (and it's pouring with rain outside). I'm going to go weep.

All of the groups we go to are cancelled for half term, even the Children's Center ones (which is strange). We can't go swimming tomorrow (no child care for TS's best friend's little brother and friend isn't confident with two kids under 2 1/2 in the pool (don't blame her, really!)) so instead the three kids are going to check out the new soft play place in Guiding village.

Had hoped to make some sweets & treats this weekend for V Day but boiler issues meant that's been delayed. <<Sigh>> And I was going to have TS make a valentines for his friend since we'd be seeing her tomorrow. <<Bigger Sigh>>

UniS Mon 13-Feb-12 22:39:46

ohh heck to plumbing nightmare.

"Well done & pat on the back" to fine lad. Is it the uni and course he most wanted to attend?

Hio Chocy jules, my only is 5 and 3 quarters ( as he tells just about everyone these days).

Donki, can I fluff up your hay pile while you out of it . Here have some carrot cake and my special carrot and chocolate nightcap drink, it has just a leetle bit o special sheep liniamnet medicinal tonic in it.

Boy got rather muddy, some other children got VERY muddy today. Thankfully boy misheard teh bike coach when she said there would be a prize given for teh muddiest bum at the end of teh cycle training session. Boy thought she said muddiest bike, so spent half of his lunch brake riding up and down in a very muddy bit, but he did this with out falling off.

Scout19075 Tue 14-Feb-12 07:30:10

<<Sets out heart shaped chocolates and biscuits>>

brew anyone?

Donki Tue 14-Feb-12 10:18:04

Blimey UniS!
What was in your Special Sheep Liniamnet?
(It tasted a but strange)
I woke up Baa-ing, and seem to be coming over all woolly...

Quick, where are the carrots?

Donki Tue 14-Feb-12 10:20:42

bit obviously

(And I meant to ask if liniamnet is the mumsnet version of liniment?)
(Ans hence, was I meant to drink it or rub it in?)

CMOTDibbler Tue 14-Feb-12 10:31:09

I think UniS may be referring to Granny Achings Liniment which may not be solely for external use. Or indeed sheep, being a distilled product wink

Beautiful sunny day here, and ds v excited as holiday club are going bowling today. And then he is going back for tea with someone - first time ever after school visit somewhere

Donki Tue 14-Feb-12 19:54:12

Thankyou CMOT - all is made clear!

Which just leaves me with the problem of what to do about by fine new woolly coat...

Donki Tue 14-Feb-12 19:55:24

Aaaargh! my fine new woolly coat.

Not to mention the strange noises emanating from my throat.

(Polite) suggestions on a postcard please...

UniS Tue 14-Feb-12 21:41:27

drink some more, its good for all that ails ye. or maybe ale's ye.

mistlethrush Tue 14-Feb-12 23:34:59

Hmmmm Ale grin

Congrats to fine lad!!!

Scout19075 Wed 15-Feb-12 07:45:38

Morning. Who's in need of a brew?

mistlethrush Wed 15-Feb-12 09:21:47

Yes please! Grey morning has cleared and we've had a bit of sunshine!

When do you think that MC will learn that talking non-stop or reading out the contents (or something else) of the juice carton or stretching and twisting just does not get his breakfast eaten? hmm

Scout19075 Wed 15-Feb-12 11:38:49

We keep having sunshowers today. I'm wondering how big & bright the rainbow/s will be.

CMOTDibbler Wed 15-Feb-12 11:46:00

Oof - when you find that out MT, let me know as Tiddler is just the same. Although yesterday, with bowling and a playdate after holiday club he was dressed and fed in record time !

beanandspud Wed 15-Feb-12 12:28:04

Yes please to brew!

I will wait for the results from you MT! It took Small Bean 40 minutes the other day to eat 3 fish fingers and some beans - he is also easily distracted.

CMOT - I smiled at DS going on his first independent playdate - I hope he had a great time.

Sorry to moan but having a few problems at nursery. Key worker that SB loved has left (she has known him since he was a baby) and a new room supervisor that I don't like very much is now 'making her mark'. According to her, suddenly SB is really badly behaved sad - apparently kicking, pushing, being silly, name-calling - all very much out of character - and she is making a big deal of it. I am willing to believe that SB isn't entirely blameless but I can't quite get my head around the fact that his behaviour has changed so much in two weeks and that she is the only person that notices it and tells me about it.

I'm sure it will sort itself out and it's just a response to change but grrrrr...

mistlethrush Wed 15-Feb-12 15:59:33

Bean - why don't you turn the onus around. Say to her that this is not the reports you've had back in the past from any of the people you've spoken to about him, and ask her whether there's anything that's changed in the last two weeks that might have brought about this change in behaviour, because he's not changed from his normal sunny disposition at home. If there is anything that she can identify that has changed that might result in this change, ask her what she proposes to do about it. When they're smallbean's age you can't expect a parent to be able to reprimand their child about something that apparently happened during the day but which they didn't see... She's got to sort this out herself and work out how to deal with whatever the situation that is, apparently, making him play up whilst in her company (I can't think what that might be grin).

Having said that, I never managed to come out with this at school - I wish I had been able to!

mistlethrush Wed 15-Feb-12 21:52:31
beanandspud Wed 15-Feb-12 22:09:24

Thanks MT - I am going to try to ask what has changed and find out how they are dealing with any of the children that go through phases of silly behaviour. I think I have been very lucky that in 3+ years this is the first time that I have been cross with nursery.

wine would be lovely, and music...

Jacksmania Thu 16-Feb-12 12:58:45

Morning all. Had to giggle at suggestion to ask key worker what has changed. Because clearly if she has a brain she will realize it's her sudden appearance on the scene. Could be a slightly uncomfortable realization... grin

We're going home today. Flight this afternoon, DH picking us up, home by late evening. I'm already shuddering thinking of DS's sleep pattern the next few days. Those three hours are enough to really rattle both of us.

Eyes are doing ok, "bandage" contact lenses gone, follow-up with my own eye doctor next week. Vision improving, but still a bit off. I've had a near-constant brain ache the last few days as my vision is changing and my brain is trying to adjust, it's interesting in a <bleurgh> sort of way.

Has anyone seen that extremely ofd AIBU thread, it's past 300 posts now, apparently written by a MIL about a DIL's unrealistic expectations. It's the oddest thread. Sounds complete fake, or a reverse AIBU, the OP isn't taking anything on board that anyone is saying, despite the fact she's had 200 posters telling her she's being vile.... and MNHQ is running rampant with the censorship scissors, deleting every tenth post. I obv haven't been on much, but has there been a really big upset or something on MN, this thread and what's being deleted is just so very odd.

Scout19075 Thu 16-Feb-12 20:52:15

<<Waves at JM in hopes she can see me again.>>

<<Waves at Maud -- it was lovely to see you again.>>

<<Waves at UniS -- thank you for my parcel.>>

<<Waves at bean -- were you forceful straight with the new keyworker?>>

<<Waves to everyone else -- hello!>>

Jacksmania Thu 16-Feb-12 21:16:11

<waves back at Scout>
I can see reasonably well. And DH tells me there is a parcel for me at home!!! I'm going to feast on chocolate tonight!!!!!

Scout19075 Thu 16-Feb-12 21:19:43

Ooooohhhh, fingers crossed it's a parcel from the UK, JM!

Jacksmania Thu 16-Feb-12 21:20:59

Sorry Scout, should have specified - yes, DH said it's from the UK!!!! Wahoo!!!

CMOTDibbler Thu 16-Feb-12 21:24:40

<<waves madly, then clutches elbow and falls over>>

Scout19075 Thu 16-Feb-12 21:34:01

YAY for British parcels arriving in Canada!

<<Waves at CMOT then hands over some pain pills and a glass of water before offering a hand to help get up>>

beanandspud Thu 16-Feb-12 21:37:58

<<waves at everyone>>

Offers wine and ice creams...

mistlethrush Fri 17-Feb-12 08:53:17

Morning - looking forward to update on keyworker... the general idea was to make her realise that its clearly her that's the problem, without having to say it to her face grin

MC's been having a run of bad dreams that wake him up... which wakes me up - and he's been sneeking in to bed - then wriggling and asking the time at too early o'clock.... [yawn]

JM - I've started a pilates class at the gym - and am enjoying going - although I find I can do some of it easily and other things are nigh on impossible.... Would it be silly to try yoga too? or should I sort out pilates a bit better and then perhaps consider it?

CMot - you'll just have to restrict yourself to grin instead of waving. Sorry elbow's still playing up.

If anyone's up for a bit of culture, concert in London first saturday of March 7.30 St James Piccadily....

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Fri 17-Feb-12 16:00:13

::Waves back at Scout and the delightful-as-ever Toddler::

Scout19075 Fri 17-Feb-12 16:38:11

Maud, the delightful toddler did NOT fall asleep on the way home yesterday. There was too much action with the fire engines, ambulances and buses going by. I got him to bed by 6:40 last night though.

UniS Fri 17-Feb-12 19:38:17


UNiS sends lots of virtual waves to one and all.

\ /

and some ice cream. 2 scoops.

Scout19075 Fri 17-Feb-12 20:50:28

Oh, and Maud, I think Toddler was trying to tell me about our visit with you yesterday. He kept saying what sounded like Mrs <insert letter of surname here> and talking about the car and bars and juice.

I have worn my Toddler out. grin

Who'd like some wine?

UniS Fri 17-Feb-12 20:59:23

Boy has worn himself out...
We have been dangling a reward in front of him for learning to swim ( functionally swim a width with no float) , a body board when we next go to the beach.
He was close to it last week, ie - he "said" he did a width in swim class, but I can;t see if he puts feet down and he is in depth so "could" dab. So, this week I took him for a half hour swim just after his class. Just before we got out he accepted my challenge to "see who could get furthest" and promptly swam a width on his back, high fived me, said " again" and off we went again, after 4 widths I hauled him out to get dry.

next beach trip will be expensive! Can't get boy a body board and not get at least one adult size one as well.

However I'm very pleased with him, swimming seems to have "clicked " just recently.

Scout19075 Fri 17-Feb-12 21:16:35

Well done, UniS's Boy! Will you be going to the beach any time soon?

I thank blame swimming for Toddler's head first divers' dive into the ball pit today. The (substitute) instructor had the kids gliding off the floating rockets last week and Toddler took to it like a duck to water.

Forgot it was half term and the soft play place was nuts. TS came home red, sweaty and exhausted though so I guess he enjoyed his dives. grin

beanandspud Fri 17-Feb-12 21:41:03

Yay to Unis Boy! He'll sleep well tonight! And thank you for ice cream - chocolate caramel cone - my favourite!

Scout - wine would be lovely! I love Friday night with nothing much to worry about for a couple of days.

Small Bean has his second proper swimming lesson in the morning. Last week went really well so hoping that he enjoys it again tomorrow. 'Twas a sad moment leaving him by the pool though and not being allowed to stay.

MT - I still haven't spoken to key worker yet. Mr Bean has done the nursery run for the last couple of days and I think I need to pluck up the courage find an appropriate time to ask some pertinent questions.

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Fri 17-Feb-12 23:05:38

Yay to all swimming and diving boys! And aw that lovely Toddler has been talking about me.

::head swells::

Jacksmania Sat 18-Feb-12 01:00:24

The West Coast Report:

Had chocolate for breakfast. Followed by hot chocolate. grin Scout, I love you. thanks Can't wait to try the veg dip.

Eyes better. Still have brain ache from adjusting. But I can see theyr on the DVD player when I'm sitting on the couch. This is a really big deal.

JB and I are both jet lagged. He was up at 3:45 am this morning. After falling asleep in the car on the way home from the airport at 7:30 pm. Not Good. We had to have a nap, both of us were coming unglued by 1:30 pm. This means he'll be up until stupid o'clock. But at least he don't wake up at stupider o'clock tomorrow morning.

Our freezer died while we were away. I really HATE thriving away that much food sad but I'm not risking food poisoning.

How's everyone?

Scout19075 Sat 18-Feb-12 10:18:24

JM, I love your breakfast! Hope the dip is alright. It was a joint operation with Toddler being the chief pourer and stirrer. I hope it didn't explode all over the place.

UniS Sat 18-Feb-12 23:23:47

last year our first beach trip with swimming was in April... not so far away now.

We live about 50/ 60 mins drive from the north devon coast, plenty of surf. I guess we will probably do 3 or 4 surf swimming trip a year and maybe a winter NOT swimming one too. Last year April - October for swimming.

Scout19075 Sun 19-Feb-12 13:35:02
Jacksmania Sun 19-Feb-12 13:59:11

grin Scout

Morning all. O5:55 am here. JB woke up early. After I went to bed late, [sod's law]angry

Did something stupid to my back yesterday. It's a bad joke when the chiropractor has a bad back.

oxeye Sun 19-Feb-12 14:12:17

Hello my dears! how nice to see you all. Just back from half term break, Oxfamilyski - like Wifamilyski but we don't get up from falling simply by waving our arms up and down grin
great week but now we're all ailing - hands up who has a hacking cough/ flu??!!
glad to hear Maud and Scout have been meeting and parcels flying to canada...
sorry CMOT your arm is still bad and hugs to all others
(UniS you won't regret the spend on body boards, we love ours....)

UniS Sun 19-Feb-12 19:00:25

welcome home Oxeye. No broken limbs then? did you have much fresh snow??

Unifamily had a gardening afternoon. One bed of elephants ears has been removed and will eventually become more lawn ( football pitch). assorted echinops and michlemas daisys have been moved to teh back of teh flower bed. after last years failure to move them resulted in a path overrun with 5 ft tall flower stems.

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Sun 19-Feb-12 20:36:24

::clasps Oxeye to her ample bosom::

I had planned a gardening afternoon, but friends invited us to the park and then a session of tea, cake and bananagrams.

Jacksmania Sun 19-Feb-12 23:05:38

<joins the general clasping to bosoms>
Brrr, it's chilly and uncomfortable here. I think Toronto weather wanted to follow us. Get away, you!

oxeye Sun 19-Feb-12 23:54:06

::clasps:: wine ::glugs::

ah yes, much better grin

Maud your day sounds more my cup of tea (sorry UniS) gardening is something I always feel I ought to do more than actually want to do. ... though I know tis your passion
did some park time ourselves, what a glorious day its been!
feeling gloomy about back to school tomorrow

No broken bones here (this time anyway!!) How was your ski UniS?

::tucks JM in a nice plaid shirt rug

Scout19075 Mon 20-Feb-12 09:35:29

I lack in bosom but can I join in the general hugging anyway?

Schools are back in session which means all of our activities are running again. YAY! We've changed swim groups (long-ish story) so this is the first week with our new swim day/time. I'm excited about it, though, as it means TS will get to stay with his friend (who, now that he can say her name, has been talking about her and "ool" (pool) and "play").

For those in the know who might be able to help -- last spring/summer TS and I planted some sunflowers in a large outdoor pot (and I do mean large). The sunflowers are gone (snails) but there's some growth which I'm assuming is weed. I'm hoping to use the pot again to grow some smaller flowers. The pot has been standing outside all winter (it ocassionally got a holiday sign/decoration stuck in since it's next to our front door). Do I need to start with fresh soil?

JM, have started another collection of chocolates for breakfast for you.

Jacksmania Mon 20-Feb-12 14:49:22

Oh Scout, you are the best. I have been putting a teaspoon of the hot chocolate in my coffee and it's just decadent. You must let me know what I can send you.

Morning all, tired, it's chilly and rainy here which means ibhave to get fully dressed today and my low back hurts, I did something stupid to it this weekend. And I have a stupidly busy week catching up on everything. Meh.

UniS Mon 20-Feb-12 19:07:23

Jm - had to grin at the irony of a chiro with a bad back... sorry. Hope you get it sorted soon. Get you and your hot choc coffee mocha habit.

~~ waves to all.

Chilly house this evening, owing to all teh upstairs windows being ripped out and replaced today. SHOULD end up warmer and with less condensation.

just for now I'm happy by teh woodburner, DS is reading to DH, we had pizza for tea and I have made 5 very thick rubbery pancakes to use for racing proposes tomorrow. Life is good.

Jacksmania Mon 20-Feb-12 21:10:15

Not to worry UniS - I have to grin too.

Scout19075 Tue 21-Feb-12 06:58:07

I am a poorly Scout. I don't know if I have it in me to deal with Toddler today. sad

UniS Tue 21-Feb-12 09:25:04

stick a stamp on his forehead and post him down here scout. he can come pancake racing with boy and watch builders replacing windows and ask a thousand questions.

righto,off to potter in the garage as kitchen is full of builder and has no windows

Scout19075 Tue 21-Feb-12 12:20:39

Oooohhhh, pancake racing sounds interesting....

Jacksmania Tue 21-Feb-12 14:31:53

Whats wrong Scout? (((*HUG*)))

Scout19075 Tue 21-Feb-12 19:28:31

Probably just a cold -- I'm shivery, hot & cold, I ache, I have a horsey cough and now, since Toddler's gone to bed, I have a runny nose. I am not happy.

Scout19075 Tue 21-Feb-12 19:42:57

Oh, and my ears hurt.

Scout19075 Tue 21-Feb-12 19:44:35

I cancelled Seniors.

UniS Tue 21-Feb-12 22:44:47

TS would have likes pancake racing. picture the scene...
ON a drizzly day, under grey sky , on a damp playing field, under a goal post is a line of 4 and 5 yr olds, each clasping a frying pan loaded with a rubbery cold pancake. a whistle blows, the children leg it for a traffic cone some 20metres away, some of them collide, some drop their pancake (this is the little ones race they don't have to flip, just run), eventually the children run back to the gaol post, chocolate is dished out to all ( except the dairy intolerant child who gets a lolly). The little ones hand over the frying pans and slightly muddy pancakes to the BIGGER kids , who also run a race, but this time they have to go round 2 cones and flip the pancakes, they are followed by teh biggest kids who have to stop at each cone and double flip their pancakes.... Its raining, about 15 kids are willing to take part in this rather silly olde englishe tradition. Meanwhile INSIDE the pavilion the grown ups and less hardy ( or chocolate obsessed) children are scoffing freshly made pancakes and quaffing tea.

We had LOTS of pancakes for tea, both American style and English style.

beanandspud Wed 22-Feb-12 11:09:37

Hope that you are feeling better Scout - I have made you a brew with extra honey and lemon.

Unis- that sounds like so much fun smile I wish I had sent Small Bean down to you - he would have loved it.

Sorry I haven't been around for a bit, have been away quite a bit with work and then trying to make up as much lost time as possible with Small Bean and Mr Bean.

<<Sends waves and hugs to everyone>>

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud Wed 22-Feb-12 12:32:39

That sounds wonderful, Unis.

Here, Scout, have a (((hug))) and some brew hot chocolate with extra sprinkles.

Scout19075 Wed 22-Feb-12 18:22:01

I am a poorly girl indeed. sad Poor TS has a very boring Mommy. However, whenever I sneeze or blow my nose he says "Bess yoooouuuuuuu." Hahahahaha.

I want to live where UniS does!!! You always have such great things on, UniS. My town is chavtastic and boring and a tad bit scary. We are, however, having the Olympic torch come to town -- not near it but actually through it -- so that will be exciting. Does save me from going to YOUT to see it.

For those Guiders and former Guides among us -- Happy Thinking Day.

UniS Wed 22-Feb-12 19:35:17

happy thinking day.

its a scout thing too isn't it? Or maybe one of teh Beavers just likes wearing her necker soooo much she wore it to school. looked very soviet young pioneer. She has a flexible approach to uniform at the best of times, boots, trousers tucked in, T shirt and red necker....

Can you come up with a better ascii trefoil?

Scout19075 Wed 22-Feb-12 19:37:10

Yes, today is Founder's Day for the Scouts.

UniS Wed 22-Feb-12 19:59:22

boy went to bed sobbing over not being a beaver... ho hum. I guess this is maybe the first time he has had to make a choice and CAN NOT change his mind even tho he wants to. There is no space for him at beavers even if he did drop the after school activity that clashes. He DOES enjoy dance,He had class yesterday and was looki