Molluscum contagiosum

(71 Posts)
solveproblem Sat 13-Jul-13 16:12:43

DS is completely covered with red bumps, in appearance it looks like severe chickenpox.
I took him to the doctor who said its MC and that even though its very contagious it is harmless and he can continue going to nursery.

Nothing can really be done and these bumps will go away without treatment in the next 12 - 18 MONTHS!

I'm a bit worried about what the nursery and other parents will think about this? I've had the all clear to send him by the doctor but it looks horrendous. Has anyone got any experience from this?

grumpalumpgrumped Sat 13-Jul-13 19:49:35

We see it a lot in nursery, They shouldn't bat an eyelid.

Dd has them all over her bottom. No doubt every time she uses school loo the next child is at risk, bu no-one seems to care.

NarkyNamechanger Sat 13-Jul-13 19:52:18

I wouldn't be happy if my child caught this from him at nursery. You need to keep him in long sleeved tops/trousers to minimise contact if he must go back to nursery.

Bottom and tops of back of thighs.

JaquelineHyde Sat 13-Jul-13 19:58:10

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ReetPetit Sat 13-Jul-13 20:17:43

i would get a 2nd opinion personally and if another doctor agrees its MC and he can go to nursery get them to write you a letter.
i think narky has a point, i wouldn't be happy if my dc caught this at nursery either and would expect it to be covered as much as possible.

i have never seen MC widespread which is why i would suggest getting him seen again. one of my ds had it as a toddler but only had a couple of spots on his arm and i always covered them, wouldn't have occurred to me to think it was ok not to tbh!

solveproblem Sat 13-Jul-13 20:28:14

He's got them absolutely everywhere, on palms of hands, in the face. bottom, arms, legs... Nowhere is not covered by these.
I will definitely get a second opinion as I'm not sure myself he's got MC.

If the next doctor agrees this is what it is I cannot afford to keep him away from nursery until it goes away as I have to work. And to be fair he probably got it from there in the first place. I will cover him up as much as I can though.

ReetPetit Sat 13-Jul-13 20:32:54

sounds more like chicken pox tbh! hope you get it sorted - would be easier if it was cp, at least its over and done with quickly!

Well I can't cover my dd's. It's impossible. I'm surprised the whole nursery doesn't have it by now.

JaquelineHyde Sat 13-Jul-13 20:37:36

DS1 had it on his legs and arms for 2 years so I suppose I should have kept him covered head to foot for all that time hmm

DD1 had hers on one arm and on her hands, so I should have forced her to wear gloves to school as well. hmm hmm

This is completely harmless, does not need any treatment and will go away on its own (or you can squeeze the solid white head out if you don't want to wait).

Vanity is a horrible trait to teach children.

it doesnt sound like molluscum as that normally starts in one area and then spreads rather than all appearing at once. When did it start to appear?

hpa says no exclusion period

solveproblem Sat 13-Jul-13 20:42:58

He woke up with a rash on Thursday, I took him to the GP who looked very confused and brought in a colleague to look at it. They couldn't figure out what it was and I told them the herpes simplex virus is going around nursery.
They said that that was probably what it was and gave him anti viral medicine.

The medicine didn't help and the rash got worse so took him to out of hours this morning, this doctor sounded very certain that it is molluscum c.

Surely if it was chicken pox at least one of these doctors would have sussed it?

MrsWildermac Sat 13-Jul-13 20:43:14

Zinc and caster oil...slather it on morning and evening and it'll disappear in a couple of weeks if its MC!

it is not molluscum then if it came up suddenly and he has lots of spots at once. I would get another opinion.

Yawner247 Sat 13-Jul-13 20:51:24

My dd had that when she was four months it cleared up really quickly hope it does for your lo too!!

ReetPetit Sat 13-Jul-13 20:59:50

it doesn't always disappear on its own!! i have heard of friends dc having them removed at hospital. one had to pay privately as her daughter had a single one growing rapidly on her face and another had her ds one cautirised....

JaquelineHyde Sat 13-Jul-13 21:06:44

solve it doesn't sound like MC to me, I would get another opinion on it.

SisterMatic Sat 13-Jul-13 21:10:41

Could it be a sort of eczema? You dont normally get MC on palms of your hands.

SisterMatic Sat 13-Jul-13 21:12:26

Could it be eczema herpeticum? Has someone in the class got a coldsore for the herpes virus to be going round?

solveproblem Sat 13-Jul-13 21:12:52

I should have said se probe to eczema and this rash is worse were he had previously had eczema.

Will definitely get another opinion on this!

solveproblem Sat 13-Jul-13 21:14:28

SisterMatic: that is what the first doctor suggested, the antiviral medicine is not helping though .

SisterMatic Sat 13-Jul-13 21:15:25

If he already has eczema, and herpes has been going round, then it could be eczema herpeticum. Poor love.

If you Google EH does it look similar?

SisterMatic Sat 13-Jul-13 21:16:47

Antivirals will lessen the outbreak but they wont stop it if I recall correctly. It will take a while.

solveproblem Sat 13-Jul-13 21:18:49

SisterMatic the doctor said the antiviral wouldn't help the existing spots get any better but stop him from getting any more. But they still keep coming...

SisterMatic Sat 13-Jul-13 21:20:58

Can he eat and drink okay?
I feel for you both, this sounds awful.

solveproblem Sat 13-Jul-13 21:22:22

No he can't eat much, only vanilla ice cream. His mouth is full of these too!

solveproblem Sat 13-Jul-13 21:23:04

The more I think about this the more convinced I get we got the wrong diagnosis.

solveproblem Sat 13-Jul-13 21:25:08

Looking at it it looks more like eczema herpeticum than MC.

The weird thin is that it's not itchy and he hasn't had a temperature.

it really really doesnt sound like molluscum so get him checked out again

SisterMatic Sat 13-Jul-13 21:29:01

To be honest, if it is getting worse I would consider taking him to the hospital. Perhaps they can give him stronger treatment? Or a definite diagnosis? I am not medically qualified by the way so feel free to take me with a pinch of salt.

solveproblem Sat 13-Jul-13 21:35:47

Do you think it would be silly to take him to the children's a&e tomorrow? He is completely covered with these absolutely everywhere but has not got a temperature or any other serious symptoms. Makes me worried nonetheless!

lastnightidreamt Sat 13-Jul-13 21:38:23

I'm not a doctor but have had 4 DCs with MC - this does not sound the same at all.

Definitely go back to the GP - if there was a virus going around nursery, that sounds far more likely.

Good luck, it sounds awful for both of you.

SisterMatic Sat 13-Jul-13 21:41:13

No I dont think it would be silly, if he is still getting worse tomorrow then go. I understand your worry.

Hopefully he will be feeling better tomorrow and no more spots have appeared. I have my fingers crossed for you.

Bugsylugs Sat 13-Jul-13 21:56:34

MC raised spot with what is called an umbilicated plug in the middle. This looks like a creamy white middle. Only scabs on scratching but not so common. Do you have a picture of a few spots in a non identifiable area?

RubyrooUK Sat 13-Jul-13 21:56:58

That doesn't sound right to me either.
Poor little boy.

Are you sure it isn't Hand, Foot and Mouth? My DS had this and it came on suddenly and the spots all over his hands (and throat) were a giveaway. He was so ill with it that we had to take him to A&E as the out of hours doctor had no clue what to do. Meanwhile DS' friend got it and only had a couple of spots. Any chance it could be HF&M?

solveproblem Sat 13-Jul-13 22:09:41

I've got photos but I'm on my phone so don't know how to share them.

A&E has been vetoed by DH as its not a real emergency, will go to out of hours again tomorrow instead.

He first got the spots in arms, legs and abdomen, didn't get them on hands, feet and mouth until this morning.

SisterMatic Sat 13-Jul-13 22:14:34

If you go to 'My Mumsnet' on the top right of the desktop site, click on my photos..create will need to open your profile. You can upload from there if you need to.

solveproblem Sat 13-Jul-13 22:28:12

Think I managed to upload a photo to my profile!

SisterMatic Sat 13-Jul-13 22:32:41

Ouch! Oh that looks so sore.
That doesn't look like any MC I have ever seen.

That's NOT MC.

How ill is he?

I would consider A&E tonight tbh.

You've checked for meningitis symptoms?

solveproblem Sat 13-Jul-13 22:41:54

He's not ill at all starlight, it's definitely uncomfortable for him but its not itchy and he hasn't got a temperature. It's nice to hear you say you don't think it's MC as it confirms what I'm thinking.

I'm going to go to sleep now but will make an appointment as soon as I wake up. Will let you know what they say this time!

solveproblem Sat 13-Jul-13 22:42:34

Yes, it's not meningitis.

it doesnt look like molluscum as MC looks more like little warts.


SisterMatic Sat 13-Jul-13 22:50:44

Let us know OP I hope you all get a decent nights sleep thanks

DS had something like this a couple of months ago - not ill at all, spread really rapidly and started to fade after about 10 days. The weirdest thing was how 'well' he was even though it spread quite alarmingly.
It came back a couple of weeks later, much less and faded more quickly. Despite about 3 visits to the doctor we never got a clear diagnosis.

He had had MC previously and it was very different, much slower to spread.

Good luck!

Bugsylugs Sat 13-Jul-13 23:53:13

does anyone know how to enlarge photos?
Top middle one i can see why they might say MC as appears slightly pearlesent with creamy middle (umbilicated) though big picture with foot in front appears to show patches in elbows that are larger and a deep redish colour. Are the tops of the spots blitser like? not typical for MC or ezcema herpetiform from picture.
Glad he is well in himself though.

solveproblem Sun 14-Jul-13 09:27:43

Quick update:

Been to see another out of hours doctor. She said its definitely not MC and has referred us to the children's a&e. on our way there now.

SisterMatic Sun 14-Jul-13 09:45:09

Hope everything is okay, hope you get a diagnosis.

Bugsylugs Sun 14-Jul-13 09:50:16

That's good hopefully you'll have an answer soon

supergreenuk Sun 14-Jul-13 10:00:58

Watching thread with interest

supergreenuk Sun 14-Jul-13 10:04:20

Btw I know doctors are only human but if a bunch of mums can rule it out then what ??????? Sometimes they annoy me with there blatant misdiagnosis.

Tanith Sun 14-Jul-13 11:47:48

It depends on their experience, though.
When DD was born, I knew she had the beginnings of oral thrush because DS had had it and it had taken a good month to finally get rid of it from both of us. I knew from experience exactly what it looked like.

When I took her to the doctor for treatment, he had never seen it before, wasn't sure and wasn't prepared to hand out treatment just on my say-so - I have no medical training. He wanted to wait and see if it developed.

Sure enough, 2 days later I was back - both of us infected and her mouth full of it. A different doctor saw us and diagnosed it on the spot. He'd seen it before.

solveproblem Sun 14-Jul-13 15:16:51

They still don't know what it is but we're gonna have to stay the night. He's had an anti viral drip and they've taken tests.

RubyrooUK Sun 14-Jul-13 15:44:06

Sorry to hear that, Solve, but glad they are taking it seriously just in case it needs urgent hospital attention.

SisterMatic Sun 14-Jul-13 17:03:18

Sorry to hear it too, but on the other hand I am glad they are attacking it and watching him closely.

Are you alright, have you got everything you need?

lastnightidreamt Sun 14-Jul-13 18:43:21

Glad you're in the right place - hope he gets sorted out soon.

solveproblem Mon 15-Jul-13 09:47:09

It is eczema herpaticum!

SisterMatic Mon 15-Jul-13 09:50:58

Glad you now have a diagnosis, now the drs can zap this nasty virus..I really hope your Ds is feeling better soon, it can make people quite poorly.
How is he today?

solveproblem Mon 15-Jul-13 10:10:56

He's feeling ok thank you, just a bit bored and wants to go home. I'm so happy we've got a definite answer now.

Bugsylugs Mon 15-Jul-13 18:31:37

Glad things are working out

RubyrooUK Mon 15-Jul-13 23:04:14

Yup, glad things are improving. Phew.

solveproblem Fri 26-Jul-13 21:59:45

Dint know if anyone is still reading this but DS has been fine for the last couple of weeks, went for a check up at the hospital last week where we got to meet yet another doctor who said she did not believe he had had eh but hand foot and mouth. A bit annoying that there was no consensus!

Anyway, I'm worried again. Yesterday I noticed a rash on him again, it looked more like a heat rash this time, and today nursery ring an asked us to pick him up as he had a temperature. DS is now in bet with a temp of 39.1C and a rash. The rash fades when I press it so it wouldn't be meningitis but do you think it's connected to whatever he had two weeks ago and do I need to be worried?

DoItTooJulia Sat 27-Jul-13 19:57:17

How is he today solve?

RubyrooUK Sat 27-Jul-13 20:32:15

Sorry Solve, missed your new update - that sounds awful. How is he now?

solveproblem Sat 27-Jul-13 21:00:42

Thanks for asking, he's still got a high temp and rash but we've had it checked and nothing to worry about. Just "something viral".

notnagging Sat 27-Jul-13 21:06:56

My ds has had it for around 5 years now. I have tried everything. It did go down with liquid silver though. It's expensive but did seem to make a difference.

notnagging Sat 27-Jul-13 21:09:27

Btw it hasn't spread to his siblings. Didn't mean to worry you just to say it is very common.

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