Nursery failings led to horrendous incidient involving my DS

(65 Posts)
ADME Mon 02-Apr-12 22:50:36

Hi all, I need to share something awful that happened to my DS at his nursery this January - to make parents aware of the totally shocking state of operation that some nurseries are allowed to get away with , and just because a nursery has an Ofsted certificate it counts for nothing. Please please don't assume anything with your childcare. I've been left completely traumatised and unable to sleep since the incident.

On 30th January my 18mth old DS was involved in a horrific incident at his private nursery, he had only been attending for 7 days before it happened. He was left to sleep in a room with no adult supervision and on the same mattress as another child that had known behavioural problems with many biting incidents (this child had bitten my DS on the face the week before). The room was checked at 12:50pm and not again for another 10 minutes, at which point they discovered my son screaming and covered in blood. I have the most horrendous photos. He suffered a sustained attack whilst he was sleeping, by this other child. There was no adult in the room to supervise and stop anything happened, and by the extent of the injuries I think no adult could have come to his aid when he first started screaming. His whole face had been hit, bitten and scratched, including under his chin, his arm, and most shocking both of his ears were torn behind each one, which had to be glued back when he finally got to hospital.

Not only this, the nursery then did not call me for 3 hours, or take him to hospital or call an ambulance for 3 hours. According to Ofsted they handed my DS around and took photos of him. Then waited for the other child's parents to come into the nursery to view my DS, so they could understand the extent of their child's problem.

I am devastated and outraged by this.

Ofsted have since investigated the nursery, and this is still ongoing. But they have discovered that this nursery had a catalog of failings - no processes and procedures in place, no health and safety, no deputy manager, only the owner was first aid trained, who was not always on site, and my son was in fact cared for by a non-first aider. Not all her staff were CRB checked, not all staff were suitably qualified and did not know how to stimulate the children. The staff to child ratios were wrong, the list is endless - please read the current report.

You may ask yourself why on earth I put my children in this nursery, and I ask myself that question every day. But I went to look round the nursery twice with my DP, and I had friends who had children going there and gave me positive feedback, plus they were Ofsted registered.

However IMO they abused the trust of parents, and fooled everyone in the level of care they were providing.

What I have learned is that Ofsted stands for nothing. In fact this nursery had an Ofsted health and safety inspection 2 weeks before this incident, and they passed the inspection. But when the Ofsted team went in to investigate my complaint they found no health and safety procedures in place - which made the building not safe. So I am shocked that they got their Ofsted certificate 2 weeks earlier. Ofsted were not doing their job properly IMO, and as a result my son experienced this horrendous and traumatic attack. If Ofsted had been doing their job properly the nursery would either not have been allowed to open, or they would have made sure they had correct procedures in place.

I've also learned that due to their huge failings Social Services have requested that they are closed down, but Ofsted seem powerless to do so. I've been told by Ofsted that they have the most amount of power before a license is granted, but then it's virtually impossible to take it away again.

As a parent you would only leave your child with someone that has an Ofsted certificate, because you believe this is the regulatory body that ensures quality. But it's meaningless IMO.

My plight is to make all parents aware of this. To make parents scrutinize providers more, to be more demanding. Before this happened I would never have thought to ask to see a nursery's CRB numbers etc. You assume this is the job of Ofsted, and they wouldn't be registered without these basics. It's outrageous that this can be allowed to happen.

This particular nursery is trying to change I believe, although I still believe they should be shut down as they should not be profiting from childcare given their total disregard for child safety , but it's the bigger picture I want to highlight. That of Ofsted's failings, and to stop any other nursery from operating in this manor.

My children are now in new childcare, and I'm sure you can imagine that I have asked to see all certificates for everything. My older DS is at a new nursery, and my 18month old is now with an amazing childminder... who has shown me her first aid certificate, CRB checks, qualifications etc.... it doesn't stop me worrying every day though and driving myself insane with guilt and anxiety over their well-being. sad

oh my gosh, that sounds horrendous sad your poor little boy

Rubirosa Mon 02-Apr-12 22:56:44

Wow, that's appalling - I agree they should have been shut down! What was their Ofsted report like before your complaint?

Cheddars Mon 02-Apr-12 23:01:22

Having read the Ofsted report I can't believe the nursery is still open. shock And it is shocking that they visited 2 weeks before, why didn't they notice all of the failings then?

How horrible for you OP and thanks for highlighting this.

smalltown Mon 02-Apr-12 23:13:18

I used to live near there. It looked awful from the outside.

Actually 4 of the nurseries I visited within walking distance were awful inside too ( several years before that one opened). There was the one above the YMCA, where they admitted to me that the door, to the hostel, should be kept shut, but people kept propping it open. There was one where they had a lovely garden playground, but said they hardly used it as it needed the leaves sweeping too often! The menu consisted of mostly vegetable fingers or vege burgers, & we had to walk over sleeping children when viewing.
We went for a lovely one in brentford in the end.

Hope your DS is settled in his new nursery.

KatieMiddleton Mon 02-Apr-12 23:26:30

Omg that is utterly shocking. I think what concerns me most is that at the tie of the incident they failed to behave as decent human beings. Who takes photos and gets in another child's parents (I feel for those parents too. How do you get over your child attacking another like that?) before seeking medical help and notifying the parents? If OFSTED won't shut it down surely a report like that would make any sane parent withdraw their child?

OP I hope your dc have no lasting ill effects and that you are all able to get over this. Thinking of you.

W5 is Ealing so very close to me <shudders>

ADME Tue 03-Apr-12 08:53:38

That's exactly my main issue Katie, their actions following the incident. They lost their heads, and because they had no processes or procedures in place they had nothing to fall back on. I have anxiety attacks when I'm not with my DCs wondering if they are in hospital and and I just don't know about it, and I have to remind myself that no other sane person would do that. When my DS needed me I couldn't be there for him. There is even more to the story but I don't really want to write it down yet.

Smalltown - my older DS is now in a nursery in Brentford, maybe the same one, its amazing, so yes they do exist, thank goodness. But there is such limited choice. I moved my children to the previous nursery where the attack happened after lots and lots of thought and consideration... it was clearly the wrong decision. sad

londonmackem Tue 03-Apr-12 08:56:51

That is close to me so thank you for the heads up!

seriousone Tue 03-Apr-12 10:39:41

ive pm you

EdithWeston Tue 03-Apr-12 10:45:02

The list of failings uncovered, beyond those directly relevant to this incident, is pretty staggering.

Just how much worse does a nursery have to be before registration is suspended?

OP: I hope your DS made a good recovery.

guanosoup Tue 03-Apr-12 11:14:51

ADME, what a horrible, sad and shocking situation sad and you sound absolutly shaken up about the whole thing.
It might be worth y ou chasing up some counselling for yourself as you sound so stressed, not sleeping and worrying so much about your little ones. It almost sounds like you have PTSD.
I do hope you get some resolution and feel stronger very soon , and your ds made a good tecovery

dribbleface Tue 03-Apr-12 13:12:58

Your poor poor child, I'm a nursery manager and in tears reading that. With reference to Ofsted i agree totally that they are pretty toothless and their reports are not a reliable way of assessing, our last one only lasted 3 hours, that included introductions and feedback. we won't have another inspection for 3 years. I can't find the words but stories like this make me want to give it all up, its truly shocking. Are you going to sue for neglect, not that money will make it better but will hit the nursery where it hurts financially and help raise awareness of their terrible failings.

FannyFifer Tue 03-Apr-12 13:21:11

I'm struggling to find words to be honest.

Your poor poor wee boy, can't believe they did not get immediate medical attention.

You sound absolutely traumatised and i would agree with other poster re counselling.

Can't believe that nursery has not been shut down.

Likesshinythings Tue 03-Apr-12 13:28:20

That is just horrific, your poor DS. I hope you are all recovering well.

I live in the area too and will make sure I mention this to any and all parents that I know.

NorthernNumpty Tue 03-Apr-12 13:35:06

I think you should seek legal advice they were clearly negligent. Money won't put it right but might help you to feel that what happened is recognised. Any compensation for your child would be put in a court fund till he is 18.

LulaPalooza Tue 03-Apr-12 13:40:11

What a horrific experience for your DS and for you and your family. I'm so sorry to hear this happened.

I'm a solicitor and I never normally recommend litigation for litigation's sake, but in this instance I agree with dribble - you might want to think about bringing a personal injury claim against the nursery on behalf of your son and possibly even for yourself for the trauma this has caused you. Depending on the extent and nature of his injuries/ your trauma the value of any claim might not actually be that high, but during the litigation process you would get proper statements, medical information and any and all documentation prepared by the nursery, by Ofsted and the medical practitioners who treated your son.

I'm not a personal injury lawyer, nor do I work for a law form that specialises in personal injury (although I can highly recommend one if that would help - feel free to PM me) so I'm not suggesting this for any other reason than I think it might help you to get some of the answers and it might actually make this nursery be properly accountable for their actions, or lack of action in your son's case. I'm not an ambulance chaser, honest!

Sending you some non-lawyerish and non-Mumsnetty hugs x

stressheaderic Tue 03-Apr-12 13:41:25

Reading that Ofsted report, I cannot believe it is still open.
I don't live in London but there must be a real range of standards in private day nurseries and you'd think that parental recommendations were a good way of judging, so did do the right thing.
Your poor DS, I'm glad he is settled now and hope he has not been traumatised by this and I hope you are able to get help with your feelings of anxiety too.

TiggyD Tue 03-Apr-12 17:27:50

From their website:
"CCTV is an effective deterrent against criminal activity, even when the nursery is empty. If an incident arises, the relevant parties can review the recording and see exactly what took place. The footage gives the Nursery Manager and staff irrefutable evidence to protect themselves from unfair accusations and, in the worst case scenario, litigation which can take years to resolve and damage the nursery business’s reputation in the process. "

An Ofsted pass proves they can be good for however many hours Ofsted are there for, every 4 years. I've worked in a few crap nurseries, some graded outstanding.
I miss the old system of daycare advisors who would pop in for chats on a regular basis, maybe 3 or 4 times a year. They drank a lot of tea, but had a better idea on how good a nursery was than Ofsted. Most of their visits were not official so you didn't have to let them in, but if you didn't it was a sure sign that you knew something was wrong with your nursery which would get you a very formal visit.
Monitoring of daycare at the moment is just not good enough.
Tiggy - NNEB

dribbleface Tue 03-Apr-12 18:25:54

absolutely agree with tiggy the old system was much better, can remember our lady, she was formidable but fair and knew her nurseries inside out.

Gincognito Tue 03-Apr-12 18:31:51

Jesus that's awful sad You poor, poor things.

How is your ds now?

boredandrestless Tue 03-Apr-12 18:35:42

Oh god! I've worked in a nursery and worked as a cm and I was almost sick reading this. Your poor little boy. sad sad

It is absolutely appalling that they are still open looking after children.

What human being in their right mind wouldn't have taken a young child, so badly attacked, to the hospital?! shock angry

boredandrestless Tue 03-Apr-12 18:43:42

Looking at what they found upon investigating the complaint is not only appalling in that it is all such BASIC things that any childcare setting should have (risk assessments, registers, staff:child ratios, no deputy, non first aiders dispensing first aid, negative behaviour going unchallenged, open stair gates.... the list goes on). The scary thing is like you say, they had JUST BEEN INSPECTED! [SHOCK]

I hope whoever 'inspected' them first time round and passed them has been dealt with!

Allice Tue 03-Apr-12 19:09:26

The incident is shocking but the aftermath is crazy, what were they thinking?
I really do feel for you and your son. How is he now?

fudgywudgy Thu 05-Apr-12 14:37:20

I could actually be sick after reading that sad

My dd is the same age as your ds and watching her running about giggling while reading your story made me cry.

I hope you and your ds are ok, I second the post about getting yourself some counselling.

Nothing more i can think to say sad

seriousone Fri 06-Apr-12 12:38:25

u should also post this on the ealing local mumsnet page as many mums on there ask about nursery recomendations

DialsMavis Fri 06-Apr-12 23:41:42

OP, I am so sorry this happened to your son sad angrysadangry, it sounds horrific. But thank you so much for posting. I was planning on visiting this nursery with a view to moving my DD there.

Heyyyho Sat 07-Apr-12 00:01:34

You must be traumatised. I hope your son is ok and thriving ow.

This really is horrific. I can't imagine how you must feel.

Del123 Thu 12-Apr-12 16:37:46

I'm so sorry to hear about what happened to your son. The nursery should be shut down immediately, so shocking that nobody can be held accountable.

I used to live in Northfields and in the end also chose a nursery in Brentford (The Little School) which was fantastic, my boys were very happy there.

maples Sun 15-Apr-12 00:56:07

I am so sorry to read about what happened to your DS sadsad

Un MN hugs to you

Alltheseboys Sun 15-Apr-12 01:08:58

Hi adme. Sorry to her what happened. Please be careful about identifying the nursery publicly as I was threatened with legal action over an incident that involved my ds. Have you considered legal action yourself?
These things go on too often & i think there are too many incidents going quiet. I was reading the tragic story of a little girl who died whilst at nursery as she was unattended. I think mumsnet would be a great place to start an awareness campaign.

Schipperke Sun 15-Apr-12 01:18:12

Ofsted is a load of nonsense. My daughter was in Barnes primary nursery a few years ago and I took her out after 10 weeks because the head pulled me complaining she wouldn't sit down and that she could not write her name. I reminded him she had just had surgery on both her eyes and that she was a child who should be playing. He phoned ss who left me alone after a while. The hv defending me after meeting him and stated the head is 'regimental and controlling'. His only concern was the results of the school.
I have since put her into Educare part-time and home school her the rest. Recently I found out she has hypermobility and probable dyspraxia.
Incidently Richmond has the highest grades but also the highest amount truancy and depression in children in the UK......

ADME Mon 16-Apr-12 13:35:32

Hi everyone, thanks so much for your comments. You have made me feel like I am normal to feel like this, so upset. I keep doubting myself, wondering if i'm overreacting, and I need to forget about it. But your comments have confirmed it to me that what I am feeling is normal, and I'm allowed to feel like this, because it is so bad.

But I can't move on, so I think maybe I do need a bit of counseling to help me. Thank you for your advise.


ewaczarlie Sun 22-Apr-12 22:28:29

This is every parents nightmare. I do hope your family gets through this ok. Totally agree with previous posters re litigation. Not only may the money help your family deal with this the financial impact will hopefully close this nursery down and save other children from harm

Dyeingforachange Mon 23-Apr-12 08:10:27

Totally agree about the pointlessness of Ofsted. My DS was hospitalised due to an incident at nursery. Ofsted gave them 2 weeks to produce a report into the incident and the log of safety checks. Needless to say Ofsted found it was all in order and therefore all was fine and no further action needed. The nursery's lawyers are now saying that because Ofsted found nothing wrong they have no liability for the incident. Be warned!

BoffinMum Mon 23-Apr-12 17:10:50

I would be straight to a solicitor if that happened, as others have advised. It is not about ambulance chasing, but about holding organisations to account when child neglect occurs.

BlackSwan Tue 24-Apr-12 20:28:02

How absolutely horrific. What I find most disgraceful is they didn't have the decency to allow your DS to be with his mummy IMMEDIATELY on this happening to him, what disgusting arse covering animals they are.

I recently pulled my DS out of a nursery where I just didn't feel comfortable that he or the other children were getting enough attention, while I was there for settling in there were 2 avoidable accidents/incidents involving the children. Excellent OFSTED report just made me suspicious of the whole set up.

I would be on to the BBC news.

naturalbaby Tue 24-Apr-12 20:34:31

I'm thinking of going into working in childcare, this is a shocking eye opener.
I can't even begin to imagine how there could be more to this story!

There was a MN mum a year or so ago who's dd got badly burned at her nursery if I remember correctly. All too scary.

Dyeingforachange Tue 24-Apr-12 21:35:59

That's right naturalbaby. That nursery didn't call an ambulance even though the DD was badly burned and Ofsted thought that was acceptable as their regulations only say that the nursery has to seek medical advice if a child gets hurt. Ofsted doesn't even insist that the nursery should get appropriate medical advice confused

BoffinMum Wed 25-Apr-12 09:33:37

It's the lack of compassion for the children that is so worrying. Would they let their own children get badly burned or attacked by feral toddlers and sit back and do so little?

BoffinMum Wed 25-Apr-12 09:47:19

You have the option of making a complaint of Ofsted about the fact that it gave a certificate of registration even though two weeks later some of the things it was supposed to have inspected were proven not to have been properly inspected (eg Health and Safety, First Aid). You can also take this complaint higher up to the Ofsted adjudication service if Ofsted fail to act properly.

It is perfectly possible for Ofsted to withdraw registration, but it would have to give the provider time to improve first. In this case I note they have made six unannounced visits, which would seem pretty thorough, and in their report they raise practically everything you do in your post.

Do SS actually have a written statement or document arguing that the nursery's registration should be withdrawn? If so, it may be that someone needs to bring this to the attention of the independent inspectorate in due course.

How to complain about Ofsted - stage 1

Independent Ofsted adjudication service - stage 2

BoffinMum Wed 25-Apr-12 09:58:44

BTW there is no problem with identifying poor nurseries publicly if there is publicly available documentation referring to complaints and problems (for example the document on the Ofsted website I referreding to in my last post) and you confine yourself to reporting the facts, which can be corroborated in the official documentation and any other paperwork Ofsted etc would have relating to the complaint. In other words, it would be fine to say "My DC had an accident, this is what it was, it weas preventable, I reported it, they did nothing, I think this nursery neglected my child." It would not be good to say, "This terrible nursery is run by an ex-stripper out to make a fast buck through baby farming," as you'd be laying yourself wide open to a lawsuit. <caveat - I am not a lawyer but I do have extensive professional experience in education>.

For matters of serious public concern, a third way to speak in public without fear of being sued is be an MP raising something in the House of Commons. For example, there was a case of an Ofsted inspector who hounded a teacher until she killed herself, and this was raised in the HoC as a means of getting the person's name out in the open without fear of censure for everyone, where a court case was not possible (presumably).

Look at Column 430, Bob Blizzard's comments

Guardian report on what happened

naturalbaby Wed 25-Apr-12 15:00:52

shock I didn't realise the nursery didn't call an ambulance for the child with burns!

sheeplikessleep Wed 25-Apr-12 15:08:37

What an absolutely horrific experience OP, my heart goes out to you and your DS. Heartbreaking.

elizaregina Wed 02-May-12 16:45:18

OP there is a raging debate on AIBU thread - under FIL - about this very issue, some nursery workers have bravely gone on to say that SOME nursiers are not all they seem, staff lie, pick on children, leave babies, and some people are attacking those nursery workers saying they must be awful as well!

I wish you would post your story elsewhere so people can be aware of this. I worked in old peoples home a long time ago and its same set up - there are great nurseries, staff people - but also some bad!

doormat Wed 02-May-12 17:30:07

omfg this is awful..hugs to you and your ds xxx

OFSTED are spineless

hardboiledpossum Wed 02-May-12 17:39:31

That sounds horrific, I'm so sorry for you and your DS xxx

Coconutty Wed 02-May-12 17:44:52

Oh you poor thing. I am usually dead against suing people but in your case I would be taking legal action.

How old was the other child?

scary story
i went on to their website- it is very out of date - talks about vacancies for july 2010
large sections under construction
can the police be involved in any shape or form
civil action?

Deputyatlovelyhomelynursery Fri 11-May-12 20:39:23

Thats is shocking!! I'm so sorry to hear this and completely shocked! 100% that nursery should be shut down!

LoopyLoopsTootTootToots Fri 11-May-12 20:57:49

oh sad this made me cry How is he now? I'm so sorry this happened, it is horrific.

Counselling is a really good plan. How horribly traumatic. sad

Jux Fri 11-May-12 21:33:16

Oh you poor thing and your poor, poor son. I do hope he's OK now.

You're right though. Ofsted is a complete waste of resources. It should be consigned to the dustbin. I haven't a good word to say about them really.

Agree that counselling will help you get past this. Good luck.

lilybeansmummy Mon 14-May-12 17:17:33

omg as a nursery worker and mother i am shocked and disgusted by what has happened to your little boy, i understand incidents happen but dear goodness that was just negligence, to leave him for 3 bloody hrs suffering is a disgrace, i actually cant understand how they are still open! why on earth was he sharing a mattress? surely at his age they wud still put them in cots? and how legally cud they only have 1 person first aid trained? if i was u i wud make sure every parent that has a child in that nursery knows what happened to your child! they cant stay open with no business!!

ADME Thu 07-Feb-13 10:21:53

Hi everyone,

I just wanted to say thank you to everyone for their comments on my thread. I was questioning my reaction to what happened to my son, if it was normal to be so upset, to not be able to get over it or let it go. I wondered if I was over reacting, being stupid for being so upset. And all your comments normalised it for me. Made me realise that my reaction was normal and understandable, so thank you it really helped.

Anyway a year on I just wanted to say that some very positive things have come out of telling my story. Firstly the nursery was finally closed down, stopping any other child suffering at the hands of the incompetent owner. On a personal note I did get some counselling which helped a lot, thank you for your advise. Although a year on my anxiety levels have still not returned to normal, and I suppose they never will. I took 2 months off work to look after my boys in the immediate aftermath which was nice to have some quality time. But since going back to work I’ve struggled so I’ve just quit work for good to look after my boys myself, which is a good thing.

From this thread and others I have written lots of people have said they will now question their nursery more and not take it for granted that everything is in place just because it is registered with Ofsted. The NSPCC have issued new guidelines on what parents should be looking for in a nursery. And finally Dispatches have commissioned a programme on this very topic that will appear on Channel 4 next Monday, 11th February at 8pm, to ask the question ‘how safe is your nursery’. Bringing to light Ofsted’s failings in allowing nurseries to operate in this awful manor, and not safeguarding children. I am interviewed for this programme along with 2 other parents who were so badly let down. Hopefully this programme will force Ofsted to be more accountable, improve their processes, make nurseries realise the awful consequences of not having in place all the health, safety and welfare procedures this should have, and make parents more demanding and question their childcare provider. All of which should push up the standard of care.

dribbleface Thu 07-Feb-13 17:15:53

Thank you for your update, I remember your thread well.

I am very thankful that the nursery shut down, just a shame it took such a horrendous incident and a long list of failings to do it.

The changes to the Ofsted ratio's are, in my opinion, going to be abused by poor quality providers.

DialsMavis Sun 10-Feb-13 21:01:48

ADME: I think of you and your DS daily when I walk past the grim shut down building of iplayandlearn! (I wonder if we frequent the same playgroups wink) Thanks for the update and the heads up on the program smile

RubyrooUK Sun 10-Feb-13 21:32:41

Thank you for the update OP. I am not surprised you were so shocked and horrified. I'd have been apoplectic with rage.

It does no-one any favours - parents and children obviously but nurseries too - for this to happen.

I can't believe the staff didn't call you immediately. Why were they even thinking about showing the other child's parents your son? The attack was the consequence of their poor supervision, whatever issues that child had.

I was cursing my nursery last week because they called just to let me know that my DS had been a bit weepy and they wanted to check if he had been feeling ill/slept well as he is normally cheerful. I was annoyed at being pulled out of a work meeting for something "unimportant". After reading your story, I appreciate that they keep a close eye on him.

Your poor, poor little boy. I am glad you have found lovely childcare for your DC now. All the best. X

edam Sun 10-Feb-13 21:44:25

OMG ADME, I didn't see your thread at the time. Horrifying. Hope your ds recovered from his injuries, the poor sausage. I'm glad you found counselling helpful and extremely glad you managed to get the nursery shut down.

Also well done on working with Dispatches, the more pressure on Ofsted and DFES to actually do the ruddy job they are supposed to do the better. Smacks of the healthcare regulator, the CQC, ignoring the failings at Winterbourne View, the private care home where people with learning disabilities were abused. Ofsted need a rocket up their jacksies just as the CQC did.

Lostonthemoors Sun 10-Feb-13 21:49:56

Adme I remember your thread and thank you so much for the update.

You are a brave lady and I really admire your tenacity in exposing these issues.

I think there is a very big scandal about nursery care to come.

lisad123everybodydancenow Sun 10-Feb-13 21:54:47

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Aspiemum2 Sun 10-Feb-13 22:01:51

I have only just read this thread now, wasn't on MN at the time. I felt sick when I read your OP, I have 9 month old twins and feel really emotional reading what happened to your poor boy.
I am not surprised you eventually decided to stay at home with your boys, I would have been the same as you could never trust anyone again could you?

I am glad that the 'nursery' has been closed down and that you have taken part in the dispatches programme but I am so sorry for your ds. His injuries sounded horrific sad

lisad123everybodydancenow Mon 11-Feb-13 20:32:00

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drjohnsonscat Mon 11-Feb-13 22:05:31

ADME, thanks for letting us know about the programme. I saw your original thread and remember your story which is just awful. I watched the programme and found it shocking that these nurseries can just re-register and as you said, that Ofsted reports don't really mean anything. It's a lesson to me not to take these things at face value.

I do hope your little boy is fully recovered (and also that the other child is getting the help he must need sad) . But also congratulations for taking this on - it must have taken courage to relive it but you've done us all a service.

Helendouglas72 Mon 11-Mar-13 23:30:35

Yes. Thanks for whistleblowing and giving other parents the benefit of what must have been a hideous experience for your family'. It is really shocking.

blondefriend Fri 29-Mar-13 09:27:52

I have now watched the Dispatches programme. I think you're very brave (along with the other parents including one tragic case). Thank you for making this public.

goingwildforcrayons Fri 29-Mar-13 09:47:23

ADME, I didn't see your post first time round, but I've just read it now and am heartbroken for your and your DS. I admire your bravery in not only having to deal with the aftermath of the event, but being willing to go public and raise awareness of serious failings.

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