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4yr old dd will only poo in nappies

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mystified76 Mon 07-Jan-08 10:28:47

My dd1 is 4 in january, she has been dry in the day for a year, but still refuses to do a poo on the toilet.
She doesn't have any accidents at all in her pants, she can hold onto a poo for up to a week (i think 8 days is her record) and will then ask for a nappy and do an absolute huge poo. She totally refuses to go on the toilet for a poo but is fine for wees.
We have tried every bribe you can think of...chocolate, sticker charts etc etc... the latest bribe is a trip to euro disney but even that isn't working! Any ideas? i have said to dh,mil etc for ages that it will resolve itself in time but keep getting comments and now even my mum who is usually sooo supportive has made remarks sad
What should i do next?

silvijamck Thu 10-Jan-13 13:50:10

My son just turned 4. He had no problems peeing in a toilet, but still only poops in a nappy! I am so glad I came across this forum - makes me feel better, at least I'm not on my own lol
That's not it - my son refuses to pee anywhere but home, and will always take his trousers off when he needs to pee (and pants and socks).
Anyone came across that?

Ariela Mon 27-Sep-10 00:29:44

My friend had this with her son, and progressed from pooing in nappies behind the sofa to pooing in nappies only in the toilet, to pooing in a nappy laid on the potty, before going sitting on the toilet seat with a child seat on. Wa a fear of falling in (he was small for his age)

A1980 Sun 26-Sep-10 21:28:13

My friends DD had this same problem. She had a nappy on at night in case she wet the bed and she would wait until she had the nappy on to do a poo or she'd ask for one during the day and her mum let her do it.

Finally when she was 4, she no longer needed a night nappy as she was always dry at night and her mum stopped her having nappies at all. So she started holding it in until she soiled herself. Her mum just cleaned up after her for a long while. her mum tried everything, bribery, new toys, sweets, you name it she tried it.

In the end her mum just got frustrated with her and said to her I'm not cleaning up after you anymore and she just threw her soiled clothes in the bin every time she did it. She eventually stopped doing it but she developed constipation as a result of holding it in too often.

With her next child, a DS, he developed the same problem. When he was 2.6 he was fine with weeing but would only poo in his nappy or even in his pants. One thing she noticed was that he wouldn't do it if he didn't have pants on and he couldn't hold it that long. So she was tougher this time and when she knew he needed to go, she'd leave him with no pants on and a bare bottom. He had two choices: on the floor or in the potty. When he got to the point when he couldn't hold it any longer and started to go she take him straight to the potty. He got nervous but he seemed quite happy afterwards and said I did a poo in the potty.

So being tougher on her second child in refusing to allow him to do it when he was 2.6 and knowing he couldn't hold it that long and so had no choice but to use the potty worked. But every child is different and it may not work for every child.

I would say nip it in the bud. She gave into her elder child for years and she had problems with constipation for a long while. Her younger one was over it by about 3.

jazzyjenz Fri 24-Sep-10 20:19:00

I am so pleased I found this site! My little one is 2.10 and has been dry since Feb but pooing is still a big issue. She has done 3 poos on the toilet but each time cries, and now will not go unless a nappy on. I am soooo frustrated!

purplesal Tue 26-May-09 19:57:25

We solved the poo problem by getting DD to sit on her potty with her nappy on to do a poo. Then we moved onto nappy undone. Then we laid the nappy in the potty. Then we put a nappy liner in the bottom of the potty (we used cloth nappies) and then finally just one square of toilet paper. It sounds long winded but it was little steps and it worked a treat - a couple of days at each stage.

JakeyboyLucylou Tue 26-May-09 15:24:25

Its such a relief to see so many people with same probs I have with my 4 yr old son! For the last year or so we have had a big constipation issue which he is seeing a specialist for - basically regardless of diet etc he got to point where he was crossing his legs and holding poos in - he went nealy 10 days at one point which resulted in an enema (now thinks all docs put things up your bottom!). He is on medication which is helping and its great to see him going even if it is always in his pants. Though now it is the fear of the poos still hurting and fear of the toilet. Wees are no probs and is dry during the night. I have been recommended a book "pooh goes to poo land" but am having trouble sourcing it... any suggestions? Am going to attempt the next stage with any luck of transition of pants to toilet... x

mystified76 Wed 05-Mar-08 08:23:58

Hello i know this thread has gone silent but as i started it, it seems fitting that i possibly post the last comment even if nobody reads it!!!!!!! Problem solved!!! dd1 last night did her first poo on the toilet sans nappy yahoo!, she sat on the toilet with her nappy on, we loosened it a bit, she was fine with that and as the poo started to come, she said we could take the nappy off and that was it!!
Such a relief!grin

mystified76 Wed 27-Feb-08 12:26:56

Hi this is what is helping for me, if you look further back on the thread, someone suggested letting them have a nappy on but they must do it in the toilet/bathroom, then edge them slowly nearer to the toilet. Last week I got my 4yo dd1 to do a poo on the toilet with a nappy on which was a huge breakthrough for us, now we have to get over the last hurdle which is to take the nappy off and finally do a poo normally! Just not sure how we will get to do this last bit!!

callan Sun 24-Feb-08 18:06:17

My 3.5 yr old son has been toilet trained for 6 mths for wees but still poos in a pull up. Full time school starts in 6 wks and he simply MUST be able to poo in the toilet! He is so scared of pooing in the toilet and I don't know why. We've had crying and hysteria when he's been pleading and begging for a nappy over the last few days because we've taken the "no more nappies" approach. Last evening he pooed on the hall floor and today in his pants, despite sitting on the toilet and "trying" for half an hour this morning and last night. He'll sit and try, no problem at all but get off and do it anywhere else... HELP!

mystified76 Wed 13-Feb-08 15:44:40

feel better!

mystified76 Wed 13-Feb-08 15:43:39

Hi everyone
sorry i havn't returned to this thread for ages.
Last few weeks have been a nightmare - just got dd to the doing poo in nappy but in the bathroon stage, was edging her towards the idea of doing poo in nappy but on the toilet stage when WHAM! she gets poxy chicken pox! Not only did she not have a poo for a whopping 10 days, she also had nasty spots down there so we actually reverted to letting her do wees in her nappy because she was crying in agony when doing wees on the loo! Maybe she is a master of manipulation but i couldn't bare to see her suffer!!!!
Back to normal now as in doing wees on loo and poos in nappy but in bathroom!! I'm glad so many more people have joined this thread it has made me fell better to know i'm not alone. smile

amazonianwoman Wed 06-Feb-08 14:12:53

I DON'T BELIEVE IT!!!

DD just did a poo on the potty rather than in a nappy, over a year after potty training grin smile grin

All it took in the end was the promise of a Stephanie (Lazytown) costume hmm Her friend was wearing one yesterday (present for giving up dummy) and I told her she could have one too if she did a poo on potty/toilet. Came into the living room after lunch to find her sitting on potty, saying she was pooing for Stephanie hmm grin

Maenad Tue 05-Feb-08 18:40:21

I don't know if this is helpful or not, but my friend's little boy had a similar issue. She cracked it very gradually by having him sit on the potty in his nappy to do a poo, then when he was happy with that he would sit on an open nappy on the potty, and finally he would just poo in the potty. It seemed like a sensible approach I thought.

BettySpaghetti Tue 05-Feb-08 18:24:49

curlywurlywee -if you have a look at the bottom of this page (next to the box you type your message in) it explains how to do links under the smileys and emoticons.

curlywurlywee Tue 05-Feb-08 13:02:02

Betty, that book looks great. We bought one for our dd called "Everyone Poops" by Taro Gomi - got if off Amazon. She loved it and it made her realise that everyone and every animal eats and so has to poo. She found it very entertaining looking at all the different shapes of poo!!

Betty, on a different note, how do you link a website page to your thread? I can't figure out how to do it.

BettySpaghetti Tue 05-Feb-08 10:40:31

First of all sorry I haven't read whole thread as I'm just on my way out the door but wanted to pass this on.

A good friend's little boy (age 4) was like you described in your OP.

Friend was beside herself as she tried all sorts. I did a search here on MN for tips and came across recommendations for this book. Its a funny childrens story that involves poo. I think it just helps in that it makes poo seem funny/normal/nothing to be scared of.

I bought the book for my friends DS and he absolutely loved it. My friend swears blind that it was the start of his getting over his problem.

katie5004 Tue 05-Feb-08 10:28:48

thanks! just bought him a toy which i know he will realy like,he knows where it is and what he has to do to get it.realy hope this will work.

abigaillockhart Mon 04-Feb-08 19:43:56

Like you, I thought DS would NEVER manage to poo on the loo. I was upset as he was getting upset..

The main thing that worked for us was the 'big boy' card. I was annoyed about the poo thing one day when he happened to ask for a big boy bike - I very casually told him that you weren't allowed one until you did poos on the loo. I never brought it up with him but he mentioned it a couple of times. From then on we did a real 'oh it really doesn't matter' approach to the nappies but he never forgot about the bike. About two weeks later we had success.

(A very young bloke served us in the bike shop and REALLY didn't understand why DS kept telling him that he poos in the loo!!)

Very similar approach worked with getting him out of nappies at night. (Aged 3.4 - soon after the poo debarcle)

curlywurlywee Mon 04-Feb-08 19:31:49

Katie, these problems around pooing on the toilet are very common and I promise you, it will sort itself out in time. Maybe you could try some of the stuff that I've posted above - it sorted out the problem for us although dd was a little bit older. I totally understand how you feel - for two years our lives centred around the pooing thing. I've just reread your thread above and am I right in saying that your ds is not actually constipated, just refusing to poo on the loo?

Try making the toilet a fun place to be and make a big fuss if he poos on the loo - buy him something aswell. Bribery really worked for us.

It's a form of control that they can exercise over us mothers. They know it drives us crazy and that's part of the reason why they do it. Also, they can have a genuine fear of 'letting go' of their poo and so they withhold and only poo in a safe environment, ie the nappy/pull-up.

I promise you it will sort in time but I know that's not much help to you at the mo.

Thinking of you.

katie5004 Mon 04-Feb-08 14:48:34

curlywurlywee- he is almost3.I dont want this to go on for years cant handle it,already had3 pooey pants today. I am under so much pressure to get him potty trained.just dont understand why he is doing this when he can wee on the toilet fine.sad

amazonianwoman Mon 04-Feb-08 14:41:00

oops blush

amazonianwoman Mon 04-Feb-08 14:40:39

He sounds a bit harsh - I've tried EVERYTHING with DD for over a year. She'd just hold it in for ages if I don't give her a nappy, which becomes a vicious circle cos then it hurts when she eventually poos hmm

amazonianwoman Mon 04-Feb-08 14:40:37

He sounds a bit harsh - I've tried EVERYTHING with DD for over a year. She'd just hold it in for ages if I don't give her a nappy, which becomes a vicious circle cos then it hurts when she eventually poos hmm

hifi Mon 04-Feb-08 14:36:11

took dd to paediatrician last week for something unrelated to poo, she asked to poo while we were in his office, she will only do it in a nappy. he got very angry with me for still letting her do it, shes 3.5. he has advised me to always make sure she does it in the bathroom,then eventually hold the nappy over the loo for her to do it on then take the nappy away.

i did mention we knew older children who still pooed in nappys and he said as soon as they are dry they should be pooing in the toilet, i got a rught telling off "shes running rings around you".

curlywurlywee Mon 04-Feb-08 13:58:06

Katie, it's really horrible living with a constipated child. I used to get angry sometimes - we are only human after all. How old is your lo? There is light at the end of the tunnel but I know this doesn't mean much to you at the moment. I remember that feeling of being trapped in the house because I couldn't cope with another embarrassing 'poo incident'.

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