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AnnMumsnet (MNHQ) Mon 08-Jul-13 14:49:56

It's survey time again for the team at MNHQ.

Please take a few minutes to complete our survey about how you feel about a specific topic on MN.

It's open to all MNers.

As a thank you, all respondents (who leave their details at the end) will be entered into a prize draw in which one MNer will win a £50 Amazon voucher.

Here's the link:

Thanks and good luck

YoniMatopoeia Mon 08-Jul-13 15:29:39

Done smile

Steffanoid Mon 08-Jul-13 15:37:12

all done

scallopsrgreat Mon 08-Jul-13 16:01:04



BOF Mon 08-Jul-13 16:21:34

Done- interesting survey!

Glitterfairys Mon 08-Jul-13 16:22:44

Done smile

jes73 Mon 08-Jul-13 16:28:55

Done smile

ReginaPhilangie Mon 08-Jul-13 16:40:43


Tee2072 Mon 08-Jul-13 17:01:16


IvaNighSpare Mon 08-Jul-13 17:17:58

Done, thanks smile


not enough brain left today to think of useful examples blush

MardyBra Mon 08-Jul-13 18:05:47

Yes, interesting survey.

Please note that if some of us say we haven't changed our behaviours, it's not because we don't think the issues surveyed aren't important, it's just that we already had strong views and would act/speak up before becoming involved via MN.


Tee2072 Mon 08-Jul-13 18:08:26

Yes. What Mardy said. I did think it odd that we couldn't say 'no my views didn't change because they were already set'!

ScienceRocks Mon 08-Jul-13 18:11:42

Very odd that you don't say in the op that this survey is about feminism given that the twitter link does.

Badvoc Mon 08-Jul-13 18:17:44


Jidget Mon 08-Jul-13 18:20:31

Done. What Mardy said too.

garlicsmutty Mon 08-Jul-13 18:21:31

Really pleased to see this survey about feminism on Mumsnet smile

Done. Please let me win so I can buy the bread maker I want!!

AnnMumsnet (MNHQ) Mon 08-Jul-13 19:31:57

MardyBra - noted!

ScienceRocks - we're trying to keep the base a neutral as possible and not have all the calls to the survey about the topic. We really want mners from all opinions to respond. Hope that makes sense.

MiniTheMinx Mon 08-Jul-13 19:54:35


Great survey but what are you hoping to find?

RubyrooUK Mon 08-Jul-13 20:02:20

Yes, agree with Mardy.

It would have been good to be able to explain some responses because otherwise you risk looking like you don't care that much about feminism, when in fact you were always very feminist.

bluebump Mon 08-Jul-13 20:19:33


LEMisdisappointed Mon 08-Jul-13 20:37:33

Done - please let it be me, i need to download more books and im running out of free ones smile ta very much

ArtemisKelda Mon 08-Jul-13 20:39:57

Done. Interesting survey, made me think.

DONE smile

BIWI Mon 08-Jul-13 21:51:49


I notice, though, that you didn't have a question about age, and I think that's a shame.

As an older MNetter, I'm often dismayed and quite shocked to hear some of the views about feminism (and obvious lack of understanding of what it means to be a feminist) expressed by younger MNetters, and it might have been useful to be able to analyse the results by age, to see where the differences are.

Songbird Mon 08-Jul-13 21:55:31

Done. Interesting questions.

fuzzpig Mon 08-Jul-13 22:01:14

Interesting survey. It renewed my gratitude for MN smile

MardyBra Mon 08-Jul-13 22:30:01

Good point on the age thing BIWI.

BOF Mon 08-Jul-13 22:31:49

Yes, good point, BIWI.

Good point BIWI.

I think it would also have been useful to ask what other online spaces we use for feminist and other oppression intersection discussions and learning to compare and contrast. Personally, I use Tumblr groups far more for that type of thing as it's more globally broad and intersectional (and it's easier to hide the trolls, some days I don't have energy for that wink ).

ScienceRocks Mon 08-Jul-13 22:53:11

Ann, I thought that might be the case until I saw the twitter link which did state the topic!

AnneEyhtMeyer Mon 08-Jul-13 23:02:10

Agree with Mardy.

AnnMumsnet (MNHQ) Mon 08-Jul-13 23:13:49

Thanks guys - added in age now...!

BOF Mon 08-Jul-13 23:25:19

Do you want us to do it again, Annmumsnet, or just leave it?

fuzzpig Mon 08-Jul-13 23:36:17

Can't be arsed to do it again sorry grin I'm 26 though if that helps!

Agree with fuzzpig smile 27, for the next couple of weeks.

NannyPlumIsMyMum Tue 09-Jul-13 00:51:43

Done smile

I'm 29 if that's needed smile

NicholasTeakozy Tue 09-Jul-13 08:43:48

Done. Though I would've liked space to explain a couple of my answers. Well, about half of them, acksherly.

BIWI Tue 09-Jul-13 08:47:03

How do we go back and add in our age, Ann? (I'm 53 if it's easier just to tell you here!)

LuisSuarezTeeth Tue 09-Jul-13 08:50:22

Done. That made me think!


theboutiquemummy Tue 09-Jul-13 10:05:07

Done grin

AllThatGlistens Tue 09-Jul-13 10:11:50

Done smile

Done smile

dahville Tue 09-Jul-13 11:51:14

Interested to see what you do with the results; I would like to see further discussion associated with this survey.

AnnMumsnet (MNHQ) Tue 09-Jul-13 13:26:29

I will drop folks who've done it an email to get ages where possible I think.
Bear with....thanks

SageBush Tue 09-Jul-13 14:11:16

Done. I, too, agree with Mardybra's point about already being an active feminist with strongly held views.

I'll be interested to see what comes of this survey!

I've learned a (shocking) lot about domestic abuse/emotional abuse snce being on Mumsnet, its made me start a monthly donation to WomensAid.

cakesonatrain Wed 10-Jul-13 12:42:45

Done diddley done done.

JammyDodger1 Wed 10-Jul-13 14:44:26

All completed here too!


Ann - I asked this on one of the other surveys', but didn't see a reply - do I need to put the email address my MN account is hooked up to, because I haven't the last few times (don't use that email)

NewLifeDownSouth Wed 10-Jul-13 15:27:56

Done smile

IsaacCox Wed 10-Jul-13 16:24:21


NeverTooManyCats Wed 10-Jul-13 16:24:43



Yep I've done it as well.

Surf25 Wed 10-Jul-13 20:07:47

Done. V interesting!

AnnMumsnet (MNHQ) Wed 10-Jul-13 20:12:01

TeWiSavesTheDay yes please.

Alambil Wed 10-Jul-13 21:20:58


I explained an answer or two in the "if yes" space because I felt it important to explain... sorry!

Patchouli Wed 10-Jul-13 21:41:37

I just would've like to have explained that while I do now consider myself as more of a feminist and the way I view certain issues has changed: I don't know how much of that is to do with mumsnet, or becoming a mum, or becoming a mum to daughters - they've sort of come along in my life at the same time.

greenhill Wed 10-Jul-13 21:42:58


PiddlingWeather Wed 10-Jul-13 23:09:39


BooMeowson Wed 10-Jul-13 23:23:15

Makes sense about the thread title, I might not have clicked if I thought it was about feminism.

I did think it was about your other survey though, fairly sure I'm not even sure why I clicked. I might be tempted to make it clearer it's a different MN survey?

BackforGood Fri 12-Jul-13 11:25:33

I was going to say the same as Boo.
I've got the feminism threads on here hidden because they are just so awful - I certainly wouldn't have opened (and completed) the survey if you'd put it in the title.

I wouldn't call myself a feminist.

That doesn't mean I don't care about equality, or have misogynistic opinions.

It just means I hate the concept of a label being needed to prove I believe in equal rights for all humans, and have a dislike of abuse or unpleasant behaviour.

I also feel that the 'feminist' tag is adopted by a huge range of different viewpoints and I actually don't agree with some of them and don't wish to align myself with them in any way.

My beliefs are, and have always been, that all humans should have equal rights and opportunities and be free do so what they want with their lives. However males and females are different in many physiological senses and I think it's ridiculous to suggest that they aren't. Neither is better but biologically women and men tend to have different strengths and weaknesses.

I believe difference can be celebrated without leading to discrimination or abuse, and that is what I feel society should be aiming for... not feminist ideals of women being assimilated into a male world, but a world where men and women are equal in value but proud of their gender and the particular strengths it brings.

I found that survey didn't ask the questions I wanted to answer and suggested if I'm not a feminist I must be a misogynistic , ignorant person hmm I think at the very least you should have had more 'explain' boxes.

MardyBra Fri 12-Jul-13 13:08:34

"My beliefs are, and have always been, that all humans should have equal rights and opportunities and be free do so what they want with their lives."
"I believe difference can be celebrated without leading to discrimination or abuse, and that is what I feel society should be aiming for"

That sounds exactly like a feminist to me summer.

Not the feminists I've come across.

I have nothing against the concept in general terms but as I said, the label is used by women with views i do not agree with, and who I have no wish to associate with (many threads on MN being perfect examples of this)

acrabadabra Fri 12-Jul-13 13:45:40


MardyBra Fri 12-Jul-13 13:57:25

I don't want to turn this into a bunfight long debate, but I beg to disagree. Feminists don't all want to be like men, but just have an equal deal in a world where inequality is still the norm. From what you've posted, you and I think in a pretty similar way, but I consider myself a feminist.

And I have no objection to you doing so.

However I choose not to do so, and it really isn't anyone else's business to be bothered by that.

MardyBra Fri 12-Jul-13 14:17:20

That's fine, but I still think you have a fundamental misconception of what feminism is. smile

BackforGood Fri 12-Jul-13 16:53:29

Mardy - I think the threads that I used to see on here though (before I found the 'hide' button) seem to attract people who hold extreme views. I wouldn't align myself with them either, but, like Summer feel everybody should be treated equally. Probably depends on what your definition of 'being a feminist' is.

Eeek I entered my name wrong at the end! Will that matter?

OpheliaBumps Fri 12-Jul-13 23:12:03

Done, interesting topic!

WouldBeHarrietVane Sat 13-Jul-13 00:10:18

I have a qualification in gender history and was considered a right on feminist in my youth. But I never read the feminist stuff on here because I just find certain aspects depressing eg threads denigrating women's contribution to the family.

puzzlejig Sat 13-Jul-13 06:01:21

Done - interesting made me think

Yonihadtoask Sat 13-Jul-13 09:59:54


ChubbyKitty Sat 13-Jul-13 17:55:37

All done.

Just bought DP and I a pair of e readers so could put that voucher to very good usewink

Done, good survey!

PicardyThird Sat 13-Jul-13 23:11:29

The post says 'all MNers', the survey says 'all UK MNers' - which is it? confused

ParvatiTheWitch Sun 14-Jul-13 10:24:21


adogforme Sun 14-Jul-13 10:47:27

Done. I do wonder why when asked where you are from England is broken down into about 10 areas but I just tick Scotland. Same for Wales. Why not just England?

Erimentha Sun 14-Jul-13 19:27:06


Meglet Sun 14-Jul-13 20:54:30


AnnMumsnet (MNHQ) Sun 14-Jul-13 22:15:06

Adogforme...we use standard government defined regions which break down the population into roughly equal splits. Eg Wales is about 5% of the UK population, Scotland 9%. The England regions are each at least that. It's used to break down responses into reasonable sized groups for analysis. Hope that helpssmilegrin

adogforme Sun 14-Jul-13 23:27:05

That does help AnnMumsnet Thank you.

<hastily hides chip on shoulder>

Fab41 Mon 15-Jul-13 10:45:54


YoniBottsBumgina Mon 15-Jul-13 12:26:51

This sounds good, but I'm stuck on my phone! It also sounds very text-box heavy so will be a pain to do on the phone. How long will it be open for?

HeavenlyYoni Mon 15-Jul-13 12:39:44

Done, could do with a bit of 'me' money!

SummerMyArse Mon 15-Jul-13 13:30:46

Bit confused. Up top ^^ it says open to all MNers. Then at the top of the survey it says UK MNers, but in the survey itself you can click that you live outside the UK confused

So, can non UK MNers play answer? I still use Amazon uk despite not living in the UK <smiles winningly>

TheDoctrineOfAllan Mon 15-Jul-13 13:30:53


Yoni, it was fine on my iPhone.

GoshlyoHeavens Mon 15-Jul-13 13:39:31

What information will you be getting form us for this, mum?

HeavenlyYoni Mon 15-Jul-13 13:50:02

Too many Yonis grin Actually, I bet that bloke from the original Yoni post would disagree.

AnnMumsnet (MNHQ) Mon 15-Jul-13 14:12:51

SummerMyArse - sorry - yep open to one and all (as is the census...if you're yet to do that!)

GoshlyoHeavens Mon 15-Jul-13 14:35:32

What information will you or others be getting or collecting?

aristocat Mon 15-Jul-13 14:53:27


GoshlyoHeavens Mon 15-Jul-13 15:40:32

Seemed like a reasonable question to me.

AnnMumsnet (MNHQ) Mon 15-Jul-13 15:49:53

GoshlyoHeavens - is your question to us? And if so I'm not quite sure what you mean?

GoshlyoHeavens Mon 15-Jul-13 16:05:27


It was and seemed simple to answer.

TheDoctrineOfAllan Mon 15-Jul-13 16:12:58


Have you opened the survey? It's pretty self explanatory.

YoniMatopoeia Mon 15-Jul-13 16:38:46

I would have thought that Mumsnet will use the results of the survey, and that they will not use any of your personal information in isolation Goshly. For example, I would expect that they won't use my email contact details in combination with my income and childrens ages, and then sell that on to third parties.

They will just use my email address when if I win the voucher to let me know that I have won it.

Many MN surveys say at the bottom that your email address will only be used to contact you if you have won/been selected to do a product test. It is a few days since I did this survey so I can't remember whether this one had the usual words explaining pretty clearly how the individual, personal information would be used, as opposed to the general overall statistical output of a mass survey.

Is that what you were getting at?

GoshlyoHeavens Mon 15-Jul-13 16:45:32

Yes, I did open it.

Soooooo sorry for asking a question.

GoshlyoHeavens Mon 15-Jul-13 16:47:34

But still no answer...

GoshlyoHeavens Mon 15-Jul-13 16:50:11

Yoni, not really.

HelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Mon 15-Jul-13 16:56:26


What information will you or others be getting or collecting?

Sorry you're not getting the answers you're after, Goshly.

We're probably being a bit dense but we're not quite sure exactly what your question is?

Are you asking us what information we (MNHQ) are collecting through this survey? If so, you only have to click on the survey link to find out. No obligation to take the survey, unless you want to.

GoshlyoHeavens Mon 15-Jul-13 17:01:31

Hello Helen,


spit it out Goshly, what is bothering you?

Goshly this isn't you know...

BIWI Mon 15-Jul-13 17:08:44

I don't get your problem, Goshly, and can't really understand why you don't just clarify what you want! MNHQ have said twice now that they don't understand your question, but you haven't bothered to try and be more specific!

Do you want to know what MN are planning to do with the results they get?

It's obvious what information they will be getting, from the questions that are on the survey - which is why people keep asking you if you've opened the survey.

GoshlyoHeavens Mon 15-Jul-13 17:17:55

Message deleted by Mumsnet for breaking our Talk Guidelines. Replies may also be deleted.

GoshlyoHeavens Mon 15-Jul-13 17:19:54

I'm a person asking stuff. what's the problem with that?

What on earth did Goshly say?
Some people have attempted toa nswer, MNHQ have asked for more info and indicated they are poised to respond., what the hell more do you want?


HelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Mon 15-Jul-13 17:23:13


I'm a person asking stuff. what's the problem with that?

No problem at all. (But personal attacks do break our site rules.)

Seriously, tell us exactly what you want to know - if our previous answer was no good to you - and we will answer it.

timidviper Mon 15-Jul-13 17:54:20

I think the biggest problem re the feminism boards is that that section is extremely robust discussion so many of us won't venture in there. I'd brave AIBU any day rather than face it.

Skintorama Mon 15-Jul-13 18:32:49

Done. And oo-er at Goshly confused

ButThereAgain Mon 15-Jul-13 18:50:19

Did goshly mean to ask what uses the survey info will be put to? Or has that been dealt with anywhere upthread? I'd be interested to know the answer to that question.
Is it like the netmums(?) similar survey a while ago -- which I think was for the purposes of a press story intended as a snapshot of feminist thinking among a userbase (and an opportunity to get site publicity)?

I wouldn't really like to fill out a survey without more info than the OP gives about all the possible uses to be made of it.

BIWI Mon 15-Jul-13 18:52:12

Well none of us knows what Goshly means, and he/she isn't coming forward to make it any clearer, ButThereAgain.

ButThereAgain Mon 15-Jul-13 18:52:47

I think the feminist boards have calmed down hugely, timidviper. Unfortunately not much going on there

ButThereAgain Mon 15-Jul-13 18:57:15

Fat finger hit post too soon. Not much going on there to replace the earlier tone I meant. It's a shame -- we should have a feminist posting spree. In fact, i wonder if that is part of the survey's purpose -- to generate constructive interest in the topic.

Bumpstarter Mon 15-Jul-13 19:35:51

Yes I would sooner put An AIBU ( relevant one ) on feminism than AIBU. aIBU is definately the scariest place on mn.

Jux Mon 15-Jul-13 19:41:45

Done. Interesting.

colafrosties Mon 15-Jul-13 21:34:44


Takver Mon 15-Jul-13 22:37:14

Just to agree with earlier posts that it may appear that people aren't concerned about feminism / domestic abuse etc when in fact they are potentially longstanding feminists who are unlikely to become more or less so through internet chat. (And who have been poking their bosses being vocally anti sexist shite at work & elsewhere for the last 20 plus yearsgrin )

Wolfiefan Mon 15-Jul-13 22:58:00


SunshineBossaNova Tue 16-Jul-13 01:47:20


HelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Tue 16-Jul-13 09:43:11


Did goshly mean to ask what uses the survey info will be put to? Or has that been dealt with anywhere upthread? I'd be interested to know the answer to that question.
Is it like the netmums(?) similar survey a while ago -- which I think was for the purposes of a press story intended as a snapshot of feminist thinking among a userbase (and an opportunity to get site publicity)?

I wouldn't really like to fill out a survey without more info than the OP gives about all the possible uses to be made of it.

Hello ButThereAgain. The surveys we ask folks to complete are usually for commercial clients who are interested in Mumsnetters' views of their products - and, if they're likely to use a Mumsnetter's quote in their publicity (usually ads on MN), we always flag that up in the OP and say something like 'please note that XX client may be using comments made on this thread'.

Surveys that aren't commercial but are created by us at MNHQ are either done so we can understand you all better and give you more of what you like (and supply us with some useful stats to answer queries from possible advertisers who may not understand the demographic on MN). We have our Census survey running at the moment, which is designed to do exactly this.

Or we occasionally run surveys, like this one, that, hopefully, give us a snapshot of folks' feelings/opinions on a certain topic. Depending on the results and how interesting they are, we may well think it a good idea to let folks outside MN know about it.

Liveinthepresent Tue 16-Jul-13 12:50:09


PearlyWhites Tue 16-Jul-13 13:36:11


Amazinggg Tue 16-Jul-13 14:18:50


I haven't ventured into the fem topic for ages - I love discussing feminist issues, but every time I ventured in there and got stuck into a discussion I was interested in, I was attacked - called all sorts. So I tend not to go there much. Wish there'd been a question or two about that. I feel like I discuss feminist stuff all the time on MN, but in the actual fem topic it's just bickering and navel-gazing ime about doing feminism right.

ShoeWhore Tue 16-Jul-13 14:39:58


LoveBeingUpAt4InTheMorning Tue 16-Jul-13 18:31:55

Hey I entered my email address incorrectly but didn't noticed till I hit enter

pudtat Tue 16-Jul-13 19:30:34

Agree that just cos behaviour hasn't changed doesn't mean a isn't integrated into life already iykwim

lillolil1 Tue 16-Jul-13 20:41:11


Done smile

Munxx Tue 16-Jul-13 20:58:30

Done interesting!

babybarrister Tue 16-Jul-13 21:29:17

Weird but done

DubarryBoots Tue 16-Jul-13 21:45:24

Done. Interesting survey.

Would also like to add that the reason some of my views haven't changed after joining MN was before I already held strong views on some things before joining.

Nyx Tue 16-Jul-13 22:43:19


bigkidsdidit Wed 17-Jul-13 04:31:50


MrsWembley Wed 17-Jul-13 08:46:03


littlemefi Wed 17-Jul-13 14:32:07



PurpleGirly Wed 17-Jul-13 19:03:41


CuriosityCola Thu 18-Jul-13 03:50:35



AnnMumsnet (MNHQ) Thu 18-Jul-13 11:52:18

Thanks for all the surveys!
OnTheNingNangNong wins the £50 Amazon voucher. Well done.

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