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NOW CLOSED: Ever taken the Low-Carb boot camp on MN? Ever lurked or thought about it? Share your thoughts here...

(84 Posts)
AnnMumsnet (MNHQ) Tue 25-Jun-13 13:21:43

Since BIWI started the low-carb Bootcamp, interest amongst Mumsnetters has been consistently high. Over 400 of you have taken part so far ? and that's not counting all those who are lurking at the back and haven't quite dared yet to put their name on the weight loss spreadsheet!

We'd like to make Bootcamp even better from here on in, and would really value the opinions of all of you who have tried or completed it - if you have please complete a short survey here. Actually even the opinions and impressions of Bootcamp amongst those of you who haven't yet been lured in are welcome grin.

There's a £50 voucher to be won by anyone who completes the survey and adds their details at the end.

If you've just seen something about the camp but not yet taken part please share any thoughts you have about it on this thread.


HeySoulSister Tue 25-Jun-13 13:28:10

It's life changing!!

I lurked... But spoke to biwi on the c25k threads ( also life changing)

Lost 4 stone 4 pounds so far

And the words 'boot camp' inspired me to join a real life exercise boot camp where I'm now part of their running club as well as the workouts.

I'm 3 dress sizes down now

BIWI Tue 25-Jun-13 15:34:54

Wow, HSS - that's fantastic! I had no idea you had lost so much!

captainmummy Tue 25-Jun-13 15:35:49

Done - definitely life-changing. And a huge challenge to the modern 'healthy eating' advice

Done! I agree life changing.

And I'm very sorry, but I said someone should check the low carb recipes on MN and check they are all low carb... and someone has already done that since last time I looked!!! I'm very sorry, please feel free to ignore that comment...

NewStartNewStory Tue 25-Jun-13 16:24:17

Lost a stone and a half but I have also completely changed the way i view food and approach eating. Food is no longer the work of the devil, evil and to be avoided at all costs. it is something to be enjoyed.

HeySoulSister Tue 25-Jun-13 17:42:31

Biwi.... Love the colour! grin

This way of eating clearly suits me. The loss started in November, so it's over 8 months. Still got a little over a stone to go. Have occasionally lapsed but I really cannot imagine eating bread/pasta/rice again regularly. Tastes and feels too sweet and just wrong!

BIWI Tue 25-Jun-13 18:00:57

Oooh goodness! Look at me - I appear to have the same colour as an invited web chat guest! grin


ToomuchIsBackOnBootcamp Tue 25-Jun-13 18:57:30

Hi, done.

The only reason I said I wouldn't be interested in Mumsnet Academy courses is because I live in the north of Scotland and travel to London (where all the academy stuff seems to happen) would be prohibitive just for a course. However, doesn't mean that I disagree with the concept for those who could manage to attend!

CrabbyBigBottom Tue 25-Jun-13 19:15:10

Mustard BIWI! grin

Would it be better to wait until the end of bootcamp to fill this in? It's asking how many weeks we did it for and total amount of weight lost - I won't know that until I've finished!

BIWI Tue 25-Jun-13 19:16:27

I know - my fault - just do the rest! blush

HumphreyCobbler Tue 25-Jun-13 19:18:28

It changed my life too.

<waves at Humphrey> how are you doing?

HumphreyCobbler Tue 25-Jun-13 20:41:05

I am really well thanks - although HUGELY (it feels like it anyway) pregnant grin

How are you doing?

Good thanks! Glad to hear all is well with you and your bump!!!

NellVarnish Tue 25-Jun-13 21:21:41

Just done survey - very interesting.

I forgot to say that one of the hardest things I found was getting my head round the fact that I had to eat FAT. I truly didn't believe it would work, but it did, and it would've worked even better if I'd stuck to it. smile

halfthesize Tue 25-Jun-13 21:27:59

Done it here too, started in April 2012 and found it has changed my life. Not just the weight loss but my relationship with my husband. My PMT is non existent and my period pains have all but gone. In addition I have more energy, no afternoon slump and still manage to exercise alotgrin

It was challenging but BIWI made it easy to follow and the support was amazing grin
Thanksthanks BIWI

timidviper Tue 25-Jun-13 22:07:51

It has certainly changed my life too. I have battled with eating issues and skewed attitudes to food for many years which diets perpetuated but this has become a healthy way of eating for me and is helping me develop a healthy attitude to food.

The support I have had from others on the threads (and BIWI of course!) has encouraged me to begin exercising for the first time in over 25 years. Overall I am almost 3 stone down and feel healthier than I have for years

I love the idea of developing things further but it needs to be done so everyone can access it. The Mumsnet Academy courses that have been arranged so far have been in London on a Sunday, so inaccessible to anybody from the North; the first train into London from near us got into Euston an hour after the course started and staying over would make the cost prohibitive.

ZimboMum Wed 26-Jun-13 08:44:33

Done. Thanks biwi x

AnnMumsnet (MNHQ) Wed 26-Jun-13 09:18:45

Glad you like your colour BIWI - it's because you are! (worth it, gettit!?!)

NewStartNewStory Wed 26-Jun-13 09:31:27

"I love the idea of developing things further but it needs to be done so everyone can access it. The Mumsnet Academy courses that have been arranged so far have been in London on a Sunday, so inaccessible to anybody from the North; the first train into London from near us got into Euston an hour after the course started and staying over would make the cost prohibitive." this London is a complete and utter pita to get to during the week from here. On a sunday it is impossible. Ffs we don't even have a bus service on a sunday!

BIWI Wed 26-Jun-13 09:52:26

I think the message about location/day of the week is coming through loud and clear!!!

NewStartNewStory Wed 26-Jun-13 09:58:33


ExcuseTypos Wed 26-Jun-13 10:10:47

I've done the survey. A NCer here who did the new year 2013 bootcamp.

The bootcamp was amazing. I lost 10lbs and I've still kept it all off. It really brought to my attention the whole "carb" debate. It does make sense that manufactured carbs are the devil and not fats. It has changed the way I and my family eat. We do eat carbs but were very mindful of the right balance.

I also forgot to say in the survey that one of the hardest things was eating FAT. It goes against everything you've been taught about 'healthy food'.
It does work, if I'm hungry I often have a small bit of cheese. It satisfies me and I won't need anything else. That's much healthier than a slice of cake or half a packet of biscuits.

cathyandclaire Wed 26-Jun-13 10:15:34

I am a qualified doctor and had always been very cynical about low-carbing, however BIWI's Bootcamp, together with the research links/medical evidence provided really changed my mind. I have now been Bootcamping/low-carbing for nearly a year. I have lost a stone and kept it off, I was never really technically overweight, just stubborn pounds that got uglier and flabbier as I got older! I always had to starve to lose weight and I tended to get horribly binge-y and unhealthy.
I have lost my middle-aged spread and am the same weight as when I got married. Bootcamp is easy to follow and after the first week or so you don't feel hungry or you can see I am now EVANGELICAL about low-carbing!!!

Yoghurty Wed 26-Jun-13 10:17:11

Survey completed.

I joined BC in January this year- and lost 24lbs in 10-12 weeks.

Summer boot camp hasn't been quite as successful for me, but that's about me and not about the thread!

I'd be interested to see what develops from this survey... smile

ExcuseTypos Wed 26-Jun-13 13:22:24

Cathy I was the same. I wasn't overweight but wanted to lose that layer of fat around my middle.

When I started the diet I thought I'd lose 5lbs at the most. I really couldn't believe how well the diet worked and I just kept going. My. Tummy is now as flat as a pancake, I'm 47 and blooming proud of it!

IvanaCake Wed 26-Jun-13 17:02:42

I won't do the survey because I don't follow the bootcamp plan to the letter, more low carbing with my own tweaks and I'm not on the famous spreadsheet smile I will probably need to stick to it more rigidly once I've got less to lose so will join the next bootcamp.

I just wanted to say how fab I have found this WOE though...I've lost almost 1.5 stone in 2 months and most of the time I can easily stay away from sugar (although still seem to have a monthly chocolate binge thanks to af!) I had a bug problem with binge/emotional eating and low carbing has helped hugely in my struggle to control my eating.

IvanaCake Wed 26-Jun-13 17:06:35

I also wanted to add that low carbing is a massively daunting prospect when your diet consists entirely of bread, pasta, poratoes and cake! I put off doing it for years even though I knew I badly needed to.

A success stories thread would be a fabulous bootcamp thread. I find reading about people's losses on the weigh in threads hugely motivating.

captainmummy Wed 26-Jun-13 18:12:11

You can still do the survey, Ivana(no)cake. It's for lurkers as well as those who've thought about it..

kiwigirl42 Thu 27-Jun-13 08:44:10

I've found it a really healthy way of eating - I've cooked more vegetables in the past months than I've eaten in yrs.
I've lost 16lb in 8wks and have never been hungry once. Fabulous way of eating to lose and maintain weight.

i agree kiwi - my diet is now much more varied and i make more of an effort with preparing lovely vegetable side dishes and finding out the best way to cook a particular cut of meat or piece of fish

I agree Kiwi and Willie - we definitely eat more vegetables now than ever before and I am more willing to try new recipes, or make things up that I never used to do. I think it has had a positive effect on DD (3.5) as she eats more variety with us as well.

I have type II diabetes and all my blood results have improved massivey by eating this way. This includes improvements in my cholesterol since eating a tonne more butter and fats!

BIWI Thu 27-Jun-13 18:00:45

Just a little bumpette

Just bumping in case anyone hasn't done it yet!

Osmiornica Fri 28-Jun-13 20:27:38

Completed the survey although I didn't do it properly and quit after a very short time. I am planning to start again 1st July! I did low carbing a while back and succeeded in losing nearly 1 stone but slacked off and put it back on again. I struggled to get past the initial craving stage this time round and kept bouncing between low carbing and bingeing blush
3rd time lucky?

BIWI Fri 28-Jun-13 23:45:16

Lets hope so!

worley Fri 28-Jun-13 23:59:32

I've occasionally lurked and not really managed to get far.. Are there diet sheets / rules any where to print out to get out going? I'm now on week 4 of a c25k, after being inspired by a mn thread and have discovered the shred thanks to mn. These work so I should try this.. Can someone point me in the right direction for a complete beginner at low carbine.. ?

BIWI Sat 29-Jun-13 00:06:58

Worley - if you go to the latest chat thread, there's a link to the spreadsheet on the OP - and if you look at the tabs on the bottom you will find the rules. Just ten rules, and its designed to makes it really easy to follow. No weighing or counting!

worley Sat 29-Jun-13 06:35:29

Thank you.. I'll go look smile

EwanHoozami Sat 29-Jun-13 08:20:18

Survey done. I think there's loads of potential with the Bootcamp concept. If an app or microsite can both harness the power of the virtual support community and give easily-navigable access to the rules and resources then it would be a valuable thing indeed.

(and can the app have a reminder every hour to drink my water? Thangyouverymuch grin <slosh> )

hurricanewyn Sat 29-Jun-13 09:47:32

I've filled it in - haven't bootcamped in a while though

Love that idea Ewan!

MegTheCat Sat 29-Jun-13 16:15:21

I've done the survey. I haven't distinguished really between the official 10 week bootcamps and the ongoing support / campfire threads in between. Both have been a brilliant support. I started low carbing Aug last year and have mainly carried on with it. Lost over 2 stone + look and feel much better. Weight loss slowed atm as i'm near my goal weight & not being totally strict.

Osmiornica Sat 29-Jun-13 17:50:34

I've had another think about this and came to the conclusion that it would be a real shame if it became something you had to pay for. I think one of the advantages is that you can do a diet and get support without having to fork out cash you may not have. I'm not talking about the extras (eg book) but if you had to pay say, for access to a new forum or whatever.

CrabbyBigBottom Sun 30-Jun-13 08:55:50

Have done the survey and just want to say a big thank you here to BIWI for organising the bootcamps. It's been brilliant, I've lost over a stone and I doubt I would have stuck with it if it weren't for the support of the bootcamp thread. smile

DonutForMyself Sun 30-Jun-13 09:14:49

I'm more of a lurker, taking recipe inspiration and advice from the thread. About to embark on a new phase of LCing and saw this crop up. I am determined to be more strict with myself this time as I KNOW carbs are my big problem. I know this works. Its just so hard when you love bread and cakes!

PareyMortas Sun 30-Jun-13 09:51:51

I started in April last year under a different name, I went from a BMI of 27 to 23, lost about 28 lbs and from a size 18/16 to a 12/10.

I have the most amazingly happy marriage and the most patient husband, but my PMT was becoming a big problem and he'd said that it was causing him a lot of upset as I was being so vile for a couple of days every month. During those days I'd be either incredibly depressed (easier for the family to deal with, but horrible for me) or angry and cross with DH and the DC's.

I went to the GP and he referred me to a specialist. By co incidence I started Bootcamp about a week before my period, it was just as it always had been, but the next one amazingly caught me unawares. This hadn't happened in a couple of years because I always knew it was coming due to the pmt. the whole time I was on Bootcamp the pmt was gone.

My downfall was going on holiday, I went bonkers and ate everything! by September I was off the low carb way, I tried from time to time to go back, but I didn't make it stick. By March the PMT was back as was about 14lbs.

A few weeks ago DH decided that he wanted to lose some weight so we low carb together now, which makes the whole thing a lot easier. I've lost about 8lbs, lost the pmt again and gained a non snoring DH.

We both feel that this is the way forward for us and that we should simply see it as the way we eat, not a diet.

My only difficulties are that I tend to lack inspiration when it comes to cooking and we do eat a look of the same dishes. I know there's a recipe thread, but I find wading through it hard. I'd love a book, I'll put an order in now.

If I have any problems with low carbing it's loss of appetite, yesterday I just wasn't hungry, had a busy day and didn't realise until I sat down to eat with the dc's at 7.30pm that was my first meal of the day. Clearly I know that's not good, but I just wasn't getting any hunger signals.

Anyway, I'm rambling, but I love BIwI for all she's done to improve my health and my family life.

Parey that is a lovely post! Come and join us on the bootcamp threads, or just pop by if you want some recipe inspiration ever - everyone is always very welcome!!

Sunday night bump!

TheChocolateTeapot Sun 30-Jun-13 21:28:50

Just done the survey. Two points I could make, one personal the other maybe more general. Alcohol is my biggest downfall - I can see that very clearly. It slows my weight loss right down to a painful crawl. I guess it's my choice and possibly I am willing to make that trade - less than 1lb a week so I can enjoy a glass of wine or several on a Friday & Saturday night. I have started recorded my Friday morning weigh in, not my Monday because that is the lowest point of my week.
Still, no complaints from me - 13 kg (about 2 stone) lighter than this time last year and a BMI of 24 - thank you so much BIWI.

ToomuchIsBackOnBootcamp Mon 01-Jul-13 15:02:02

Monday bump!

maidofmess Mon 01-Jul-13 15:37:35

I've done the survey, too! I started this WOE with the latest bootcamp at the end of April and lost 12lbs in the first 3-4 weeks. SInce then, I've hovered around the same weight – a pound or two up, a pound or two down – but that's down to me not sticking to the diet and having too many little cheats, which all add up. Am now ready to have another push and am going to try to stick to it through most of July – using the ongoing chat thread for support. It has been a real eye-opener for me in terms of eating more healthily (lots more veg) and really not missing sugary carbs when I was in the swing of things a few weeks back. Skin, hair, nails all felt better and stomach flatter. It's also easy to stick to once you've got over the dreaded carb flu feeling. Chat thread and spreadsheet a massive help in keeping going with it. Some of the hardest parts – getting back on the wagon after falling off and drinking enough water! Thank you BIWI, Willie and all others for support!

zipzap Mon 01-Jul-13 23:30:26

I've seen bootcamp occasionally crop up in thread titles but never really known what they were or who they were for. Reading this thread though makes it sound like what I need - please could somebody point me in the right direction... Is there a basic intro thread that explains it somewhere?
thanks - and congrats to all those who've done so well already!

zipzap, do join us! you're right to want to read into it a bit as some of the advice seems so counter to what you're used to so it's good to understand why you need to make certain food choices.

biwi has written some info here:

what is the low carb diet?

how low carb diets work

the low carb diet plan

low carb bootcamp

do join us on the latest bootcamp thread here. we're just coming to the end of a formal 10-week bootcamp, but you can join at any time and there is always a chat thread that runs between bootcamps so plenty of people for advice, support and general chitchat

zipzap Wed 03-Jul-13 21:52:18

Thanks for that WillieWaggledagger

I'll definitely go and have a read up. Bizarrely the low carb thing sounds completely reasonable to me, I'm quite happy with that side of things, it was more how it worked on MN that I wasn't sure about!

I have also come to realise that when I was a student and cooking for myself I had a pretty low carb existence, not completely obviously (there was lots of a little alcohol, chocolate and fruit in there too but not much bread or potatoes. And I was always really skinny. Then settled down with dh who is much more a meat and potatoes and 2 veg guy - and over time I've put on loads of weight so that I'm probably as heavy as I was when I was a student sad. And although I'm always thought of as the fussy eater one I've also come to realise that dh is just as fussy, it's just that he likes 'traditional' things - ie his meat, veg and potatoes - whereas he couldn't cope with the stuff that I used to make for me. But of course, I've ended up cooking the stuff he likes and making it for both of us.

And my other problem is that I hate water, milk, coffee and tea so tend to drink fruit juice or cordial. I used to drink low sugar squash but got scared off by a friend years ago talking about the problems with artificial sweeteners so drink the full sugar stuff which I know can't be good for me either (albeit in a different way) but I haven't yet found anything that I like to drink that I can knock back and not get dehydrated because I'm not drinking enough. Hey ho, will go and investigate the links to see if I can find some inspiration. Many thanks again!

LondonMe Sat 06-Jul-13 14:28:17

I'm sorry, but I've searched everywhere with no luck. How do I join the boot camp? and more importantly, how do I add myself to this spreadsheet I've been reading about? Thanks.

Here you go! Come and join us...

The OP on the thread, links to the spreadsheet which has all the rules and information on it. You can just add yourself to the bottom of the spreadsheet and come and jump in! The 10 weeks is just coming to an end, but we all keep chatting on the threads and some people keep weighing in (I am one of them) and then probably there will be another one sometime in Sept/Oct I should think!

LondonMe Sat 06-Jul-13 15:23:56

Thank you MrsHerculesPoirot smile I had found the link and added myself. I go on holiday in 3 weeks, and hopefully I can lose a few before I go. I need all the help I can get. Thanks again.

hazchem Sun 07-Jul-13 07:54:01

I've filled in the survey. I came onto Low carb to have a winge and found this so feel better reading other success stories!
Just had a thought if you do decided to have meetings or some training or something like that can Mumsnet fly BIWI out to Australia for -- a all expenses paid holiday-- training -- were I get to meet her in person-- smile

BIWI Sun 07-Jul-13 14:09:14

Ooooh - yes please to expenses-paid trip to Australia! grin

GreatBags Mon 08-Jul-13 07:21:36

I lurked extensively and then had some questions answered by BIWI (thank you btw). I did it for 2 weeks and lost 8lbs which was amazing especially as it lessened the stubborn fat that I have always collected around my middle. I had lost weight through WW last year but had got stuck in a cycle of binging and was constantly 5lbs off/5lbs on.
I only have to lose a few more pounds but must admit I am so much more happy with my new body shape that I have relaxed a bit so have not lost anymore. However the main problem this has caused me is sugar cravings. I don't really miss rice, bread, potatoes which I would binge on in a WW fail. I am starting again today as I want to be back on track for my holiday in 2 weeks.
As for changing my life: I can wear clothes I haven't fitted into for years, I have my confidence back and am having more sex with my husband. All without feeling like I have had to starve myself.

BIWI Tue 09-Jul-13 09:00:42

I'm bumping this back into Active Convos - please, if you have ever done Bootcamp or lurked at the back, please fill in the survey!

BIWI Tue 09-Jul-13 09:01:06
TooExtraImmatureCheddar Tue 09-Jul-13 17:32:50

I have filled out the survey. Re the cost of things - I have put down that I would expect to pay for eg personalised support from Bootcamp leaders (which sounds AMAZING) but it would really have to not cost very much for me to be able to afford it, iyswim.

I need to get back on the wagon - keep restarting on a Monday and falling off on a Friday and all weekend!

LewisFan Wed 10-Jul-13 21:25:26

WHERE is this boot camp? is it in real life or on here? (can't get to London / anywhere!)


I have 10st to lose sad to get to a "healthy" 11st.... (I'm 5ft7 and of large frame - am certainly not petite!) and am TERRIFIED...

What if I go all wobbly?!

<ps, done the survey>

LewisFan Wed 10-Jul-13 21:26:01

oops I meant NOT done the survey

BIWI Wed 10-Jul-13 22:21:11

LewisFan - Bootcamp is on Mumsnet so it's virtual. Which means it's easily accessible!

We've just finished the latest one but this is the ongoing chat thread.

If you look at the OP you'll see the spreadsheet that we use - you're welcome to add your name if you want to.

You don't need to! But if you look at the tabs on the bottom of the spreadsheet you will see Bootcamp rules. Just 10 of them, and the idea is to make it really easy to low carb.

Odriscoll71 Wed 10-Jul-13 22:39:44

Hi all thinking of giving the bootcamp a go any advice and tips on getting started??

BIWI Wed 10-Jul-13 22:42:55

Best thing to do, Odriscoll, is to have a look at the rules which are on one of the tabs at the bottom of the spreadsheet

The idea of Bootcamp is that it's simple/easy to follow.

And if you have any questions, come and join us on the current chat thread. We've just finished the latest Bootcamp, but this is the ongoing support thread.

Any questions, just ask!

LewisFan Wed 10-Jul-13 23:17:42

thanks BIWI

I've low-carbed before when my mum paid for a personal trainer for me for a few months... I lost 2st in 10 weeks, but I've lost my mojo, so to speak

I will join - do I need anything special?

BIWI Thu 11-Jul-13 08:16:31

No need for anything special! Just need to make sure you have emptied your fridge/cupboards of all that high carb stuff.

Join the chat thread and we'll help you get your mojo back.

BIWI Mon 15-Jul-13 18:37:56

Bumping this to see if we can get a few more of you to fill it in!

CrabbyBigBottom Thu 18-Jul-13 09:30:45

Bumping again for you BIWI (I've already done it).

BIWI Thu 18-Jul-13 10:16:03

Thanks, Crabby!

LindaDonahue Fri 19-Jul-13 13:28:31

one can have lots of options on below mentioned website:

BIWI Fri 19-Jul-13 23:50:49

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make, Linda? That's a really valuable site, and one I link to regularly. So how does it help re Bootcamp?

Eglute Mon 22-Jul-13 20:09:11

Hi everybody,

I have completed my second day of low carb woe. So far so good. I'm feeling happy and not hungry at all. I thought maybe I'm doing something wrong as its too good to be true.
I haven't counted carbs today but I probably should start doing so. Although I find it very frustrating ( counting kcal, carbs, points etc)

Could somebody please tell me if my meals are correct and ok smile

B fried egg with bacon and asparagus + a bit of mayo
L rocket salad with 100g of feta and 4 tomatoes with olive oil and avocado/garlic/yogurt dip
D chicken breast stuffed with mozzarella ( just a tiny bit of it) and homemade coleslaw. ( almost no carrots and onions. Mainly white cabbage with vinegar, oil and mayo)

Tell me I will lose weigh if I carry on eating like that and I'm in heaven smile

Thank you

Eglute Mon 22-Jul-13 20:25:49

Sorry I think I posted my message on the wron thread.....

BIWI Tue 23-Jul-13 15:34:37

Any more for any more?

If you have ever done Bootcamp, even if you didn't complete it, we would really appreciate your views.

thank you flowers

sybilfaulty Mon 29-Jul-13 09:13:03

Done, belatedly.

AnnMumsnet (MNHQ) Fri 02-Aug-13 12:08:22

Hi - thanks for all the responses - certainly food (gettit!) for thought!
loopyloou has been selected as the winner of the £50 Amazon voucher.

BIWI Fri 02-Aug-13 14:40:51

Woo hoo! Well done, loopyloou flowers

And a big thank you to everyone who took the time to fill in the survey. It is much appreciated.

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