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Paul McKenna - Live webchat and opportunity to join google hangout, Monday 7 January 12.45 pm

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RachelMumsnet (MNHQ) Thu 03-Jan-13 12:32:24

To kick off the new year we're delighted that Paul McKenna will be joining us again to talk us through his latest venture, Hypnotic Gastric Band which Paul describes as 'the closest thing to real magic that he's ever witnessed'

Hypnotic Gastric Band is step-change in helping people achieve and maintain permanent, healthy weight loss. The audio programme and book offer 'a psychological procedure that convinces the unconscious mind that a gastric band has been fitted, so the body behaves exactly as if it were physical present'.

The procedure recently caused a stir in the States when Paul demonstrated the procedure on the Dr Oz Show and he's anticipating a similar response as the book is launched this week in the UK. The webchat will take place between 12.45 and 1.45pm on Monday 7 January. Join Paul then or post a question in advance of the webchat to this thread. Everyone who joins in the discussion will be entered into a draw to win one of five copies of the book.

After the web chat is over, we're giving four people the opportunity to talk directly to Paul McKenna over webcam in a live Google Hangout at 2pm.

If you've never seen a Google Hangout before, it's essentially a group video chat that anyone can watch. You can see an example here.

To be able to take part, you do need...

* To be available on Monday at 2pm

* To have a webcam either in, or attached to, your computer

* To have a good internet connection (wired, ideally, but wifi is OK if it's a top-notch signal)

You don't need to have a Google+ account set up right now. We can talk you through how to set it all up nearer the time.

If you'd like to take part in our Google Hangout with Paul McKenna please email us on hangouts@mumsnet.com. We'll get straight back in touch to talk you through what you need to do next. Everyone who joins in the hangout will receive a copy of Hypnotic Gastric Band

And we'll let everyone know more details on when and where you can watch the Hangout in a few days' time.

ppeatfruit Thu 03-Jan-13 13:51:50

Hello Paul it is fantastic that you're on here live! i've lost nearly 3 stone on your old 'I Can Make you Thin" way of eating and am maintaining with the help of a lovely thread on MN!

I DO also follow my blood type; and after discussions on the above thread we have decided that eating exactly what you WANT isn't as successful for weight loss as getting into a really healthy diet especially when you take into account the addictive nature of wheat and sugar. I wonder what your thoughts are?

sarahcrowe Thu 03-Jan-13 15:12:17

Hello Paul
I've just bought your Hypnotic Gastric Band book. My question is do I only listen to Track 2 once? I'm not sure it's working and wondered if I should listen daily!
Best wishes
Sarah

Solo Thu 03-Jan-13 17:46:35

Hello Paul, Happy New Year!!! <stupidly excited!> I'm afraid I wont be able to join in the web chat; I'm sorry, I know you'll be disappointed! but my Dd is having her first ever birthday get together (she's 6) and I don't have a webcam anyway.

I am really very interested in your new HGB as I have lost 2 stones since your seminar two years ago (thanks for the tickets BTW), but I have struggled a bit and did regain a stone of that, but have lost 7lbs...just need another stone off.

So, I will be looking in later on Monday to see what your new thing is all about.

AnnMumsnet (MNHQ) Thu 03-Jan-13 18:17:12

hi - just to be clear the webchat is open to everyone, webcam or not - simply post a question for him now if you want to or join this thread on Monday to take part online then.

Dottiespots Thu 03-Jan-13 20:13:58

Hi Paul.....Have you ever had a weight problem yourself and if so is that how you developed this way of eating. Thanks.

Deafworm Thu 03-Jan-13 20:38:25

Hi Paul, I'm curious about your new book but wondered if it would be compatible with Breastfeeding? I'm guessing not but as you're here it seemed worth asking smile

Also I want to thank you, I haven't lost a great deal of weight yet on icmyt which is partly due to lack of effort partly down to pregnancies but it has enabled me not to gain any more weight through my last two pregnancies, in the first 2 I gained about 4 stone so I'm very pleased its not more now. But mainly for your seminar tickets 2 years ago, you asked a lady to rate her attractiveness on stage and got everyone to join in, when you asked us to rate our own looks I cried, literally there in the Apollo I cried at how I felt, today despite the weight I can happily say I look in the mirror and see someone attractive, I haven't changed in the last 2 years physically but that day changed something in me, I have so much more self worth. Thank you

Deafworm Thu 03-Jan-13 20:57:12

Oh and can we please have an android app!

Hi Paul,

When I go out, I'm always "the friend". You know, the nice girl that no one wants to actually date. Will your new book give me a killer pair of legs to add to my lovely personality?

I did lose weight with ICMYT but I went up and down like a yo-yo on it, every time I lost 10lbs, I put it back on again. What would you recommend for this type of threshold problem, where it all falls apart at the same point, again and again?

Thanks, MT

christmosschops30 Thu 03-Jan-13 21:45:40

Hi Paul just wanted to say a big thank you, last time you were on here I asked about my fear of flying and you recommended your app.

I now love flying, and can even take flights alone which I love cos then I really get to relax.
After that I did the give up smoking one. On 17th Feb I will have been smoke free for a year grin

Thanks again xx

Rosylee1976 Fri 04-Jan-13 07:32:18

Hi Paul

I know your ICMYT programme works as I have tried it on 2 different occadsions and have lost some weight. But despite what I can clearly see is success, I just stop following the programme for no apparent reason, even though it is a really simple, realistic, doable programme. I don't know if I am subconsciously self sabotaging myself or I am just plain lazy. I have about 12 stones to lose and I am wondering if your new book, the Hypnotic Gastric Band would help me, since I am too scared to try the real thing. I am not able to join the hangout, but really need some help or advice. Thanks, Rosy

ppeatfruit Fri 04-Jan-13 10:01:06

WoW christmasmosschops that is an inspiring story!!!

RachelMumsnet (MNHQ) Fri 04-Jan-13 11:03:17

There's still spaces available to join the Google Hangout with Paul McKenna on Monday at 2pm. Read more about this in the OP and if you're interested, email us at hangouts@mumsnet.com.

EggInABap Fri 04-Jan-13 12:01:54

Hi Paul

I had great success with your ICMYT programme before my wedding in July last year and I totally believe in the concept. The trouble is I am now in limbo as I've gone completely off track have put 2.5 stone on (which is a huge amount for me), I don't want to do a traditional diet since first reading your book but I can't seem to switch on to it again even after re-reading the book.

I look forward to hearing about your new method.

OnTheBusesOlive Fri 04-Jan-13 13:18:07

Welcome back to MN Paul.

We met on your previous webchat when I berated you for once comparing me to Olive from On the Buses in one of your stage shows. grin You're now mostly forgiven, especially having kindly let me have tickets for the seminar in Hammersmith, where I met some lovely MNers and ripped up my Weight Watchers card.

I found the ICMYT programme initially very useful, and have been on the MN "Pauling" thread on and off under various identities.

On the positive side, I have:

- Realised that I come from a family of emotional eaters, rationalised that food does not equal love, and have broken some nasty bingeing habits.
- become less obsessed with food
- Resigned from the clean plate club
- Learnt to understand hunger better
- Taken up regular exercise for the first time in my life and really enjoy it
- Cut down on wine significantly (I know this isn't part of your remit though)

On the downside, however:
- I have lapsed from the programme. The very small amount of weight I initially lost has gone back on and some.
- I kept forgetting to listen to the CDs.
- I still can't bear to look at myself in the mirror.
- I feel like I'm back at square one.

I definitely need a kick start of some sort, so would like to ask how is the gastric band hypnosis experience different to the ICMYT programme? In particular, do you have to keep listening to CDs? And have you done any research to see how long the effect lasts?

I'd love to join the google hangout, but a) for various reasons, I can't blow my anonymity and b) those webcams can make your face look really fat.

OnTheBusesOlive Fri 04-Jan-13 13:19:25

Bloody hell, that was an essay, not a post.

NettleTea Fri 04-Jan-13 15:01:55

Hi Paul.

I have tried various 'fad' diets and 2 years ago lost 3 stone with weight watchers.

Most of my life I was a size 10 and I had never needed to watch my weight at all, but I lived with alot of stress (both work but mainly home related) and once I shifted the ex husband and the adrenalin was gone, my weight ballooned by 3 stone in as many months.

When I did weight watchers in the past the weight came off easily, and after 6 months I was back to my normal healthy weight, which was maintained until I stopped smoking this Feb, and again the weight piled on in a ridiculously short time and I am back where I started. In addition I personally fel as if my whole metabolism/every body system had ground to a halt, and I could almost feel myself streched to capacity from inside. It was horrible.
Ironically through the summer I was more active than I had been for quite a while, but it had no impact on my weight. Again I tried some of the 'fad' things which had worked in the past - such as early stage, no carbs atkins for a month - nothing. I returned to weight watchers 6 weeks ago expecting the same results as before, and this point 2 years ago I was almost a stone down. This time I have lost a total of 2 1/2 lbs. I am doing everything right - weighing, tracking, keeping within allowances - even my leader has looked at my book and cant understand what has happened.

I feel as if my body needs a jump start to begin working again - I feel as if I am putting petrol in the engine, but the ignition wont work. Do you think NLP would work for me? Do you think that the stress and emotional stuff has created some sort of deep seated issue with my metabolism? Ive had blood tests in the past and nothing untoward has shown up. And if it was a good idea, whats the way to go ICMYT or your new programme?

oh, I can sleep either, not since my second pregnancy 7 years ago, which probably doesnt help! (Ive applied for the hangout and fully accept Im going to look fat!!)

I'd like to take part, I do G+ Hangouts every day at work - it's a breeze folks. Will you send out a PM or something MNHQ? Or just post here?

My question is this: I'm thin now. I was overweight, ranging towards obese for 20 years. I had to get over my issues which lead me to be fat before anything else would work. I think the problems with weight are based around the head not the stomach! wink Shrinking (virtually or surgically) the stomach just means you fill a small bowl more unless if you don't address the psychological issues which cause the mindless eating.

Convince me otherwise. smile FWIW I did lose a lot of weight on the previous PM system, but it didn't really come good for me till I realised exactly why I was self-sabotaging and accepted the consequences of me not doing that anymore which were wide ranging and intensely painful.

OnthebusesOlive how the heck are you? I've been AWOL a while with real life stuff. But I'm back (sort of).

ppeatfruit Fri 04-Jan-13 16:22:01

WMMC!!! see you on our thread again then??!!!

Solo Fri 04-Jan-13 16:50:07

<waves> Hiya WMMC, Olive, Rosy and any of the regulars past and present from the PMK threads! grin nice to see you all!

timidviper Fri 04-Jan-13 17:55:35

Hi Paul, I work in healthcare and am amazed at the number of people I see who think a gastric band is a magic wand which I am sure you'll agree it is not!

To be overweight you have to eat more than you need i.e. eat when not hungry. A gastric band removes hunger but it does not remove the urge to eat IYSWIM. How does this system deal with that? Is it just convincing you that you are too full to eat or does it somehow address other "hungers"

OnTheBusesOlive Fri 04-Jan-13 19:08:15

<waves to all> Nice to see you all, and wmmc I'd spotted you were back t'other day. In answer to your question: I'm still fat and still look a bit like Olive. wink Or maybe Hattie Jacques. (Sorry for hijack)

timid and wmmc I think those are very good points about the gastric band concept. As a lifelong emotional eater, what I liked about PMK's I Can Make You Thin system was that it focussed on improving self esteem and isolating real from emotional hunger. Even if it hasn't worked for me. Yet?

I need to dig out my head phones and listen to those bloody trances don't I?

God knows Olive. What worked for me was finally accepting that things would fall apart whether or not I ate the cake and deciding I'd cope better with things if I could at least conceivably run away because I wasn't the size of a double decker bus. (This sounds very negative but was a positive awakening. It solves nothing you know, it just makes you feel like shit carrying around extra weight.)

OnTheBusesOlive Fri 04-Jan-13 19:36:47

"What worked for me was finally accepting that things would fall apart whether or not I ate the cake". Wow. Hope things haven't been too traumatic for you, lovely. But I can see what you are saying.

OnTheBusesOlive Fri 04-Jan-13 19:41:11

By the way Paul, you might want to watch out, as some of these women especially Solo have got the hots for you.

DeafLeopard Fri 04-Jan-13 22:45:22

I agree with Olive - after listening to the hypnosis on ICMYT I did find myself wondering if there was some subliminal message as I started looking at your picture on the front cover of the book in a new light.

Solo Sat 05-Jan-13 01:49:35

shockblush

bopper198 Sat 05-Jan-13 09:13:33

Hiya paul

I would just like to thank you really for writing your books. I can still remember the first time I read icmyt and it changed my life. Even though I could not seem to make it work for me. This was my mental state and not the system. Now I am feeling much better and purchased your new book as soon as I saw it in the shops.
I am starting it today and feel that I am in the right state of mind now that it will work for me.

But I too was wondering, the book says to listen to the cd once a month untill you have been at your goal for 6 months does this mean that the effects of the cd wear off over time? And can you listen to it more than once if you feel like it has, if that makes sense.

Thanks again.x

ppeatfruit Sat 05-Jan-13 14:46:51

It's Ok olive Don't worry grin Unless technology has advanced exponentially it would be hard for us to get hold of him on here blush grin.

mcmooncup Sat 05-Jan-13 15:38:24

Are you related to Martin Lewis money saving expert?

hi Paul and happy new year!

I have a question about hypnotherapy: I"ve been hypnotised as part of a show where i chased a floating teddy about a stage and then again as therapy for my fear of flying. whilst i went under easily i am still petrified of flying. Why is that?

If you can be hypnotised why wouldn't therapy work?

GreatGooglyMoogly Sun 06-Jan-13 11:27:56

Hi Paul,

I would like to change the way my children eat meals (no more clean plates in order to get pudding, etc) but wondered what I should do with regard to any messing about they may do? Eg. if they say they've had enough of a meal but then want a snack a while later? Also what happens about pudding? TIA.

Ladies: halo effect, anyone who makes you feel better about yourself will feel more attractive to you. I have no designs on the Paul.

Olive actually chaos can be wonderful. You can't control what happens, but you sure as hell can enjoy the ride! grin

Olive are you on my Facebook btw? PM me, we can witter endlessly on without boring everyone wink

hellymelly Sun 06-Jan-13 12:21:17

whomoved-nice to see you posting again, I was wondering where you'd gone !

Saker Sun 06-Jan-13 14:51:45

Hello
I read your book "I can make you thin" last year and one question constantly bugged me. If I have understood correctly, you are saying that you can learn to really tune into your body and use it as your guide so that you don't eat more food than you actually need. I see the logic in that, but to actually lose weight you need to eat substantially less than your body needs - and I can't see why your body would "tell" you to eat fewer calories than you need? I can see that it is an excellent approach to not regaining weight, but I can't understand how you would actually lose weight in the first place, at least over any length of time (probably you would lose some at first as your metabolism adjusts and you increase exercise etc).

OnwardBound Sun 06-Jan-13 23:41:13

Hi Paul,

I have your ICMYT book and cd but I don't think it really worked for me sad

I used to be quite slim and had a will of iron in regards to eating healthily and not too much.

However since two pregnancies and being at home with two small DC I find that I snack and nibble on the food I buy for them - high fat cheese, biscuits, non diet yoghurts, etc.

I think my willpower has completely deserted me and I snack because I am tired, or bored or because I can't bear to see good food go to waste and so polish off the leftovers from my children's plates.

I also seem to find myself at coffee mornings where biscuits and cakes are in plentiful supply and I just can't stop myself.

I am in some sort of negative cycle where I want to lose weight and hate the way I now look but eating nice [fatty] things has become a treat and I crave the sugar high...

Would your new book and cd work for someone like me [desperate!]?

zipzap Mon 07-Jan-13 01:22:42

Hi Paul

I'm a long-standing admirer of your techniques (I attended a fab week-long NLP training course you did with Richard Bandler about 10 years ago, except I missed the last few days thanks to a flu that ended up knocking me out for 6 weeks, despite trying the self hypnosis techniques to overcome it!).

Anyhow, one thing that I haven't managed to sort out is how to teach myself to like something. I can manage the reasonable portion sizes, healthy food, avoiding chocolate etc which is great up to a point. But my problem is that I hate hate hate drinking water - it's the taste, makes me gag, always has unfortunately. Instead I tend to drink fruit juice or squash (I also hate things like tea, coffee and milk).

I stopped drinking the squashes with the low calories sugar substitutes in a few years ago, having been frighted off with tales of how bad these substitutes were for you, especially if you consumed lots of them. But it's meant I ended up drinking elderflower squash which is quite high in sugar and my weight has rocketed.

I know I need to stop drinking it. But before I do that, I need to find something to replace it with and I would like to be able to drink and enjoy water. I've been trying to drink it 'normally' for years but manage a few sips and that's it for each glass.

So I guess my question boils down to: have you got any techniques that can help me to actively like water please?

Thank you (and sorry if this isn't linked directly enough to your gastric band technique).

Solo Mon 07-Jan-13 01:42:10

Zipzap are you my Mum?! she can't stand the taste of water either! never has.
Have you tried fruit teas or chilled fruit/flower teas? or fresh lemon or lime juice in water. Very pleasant.

ppeatfruit Mon 07-Jan-13 09:16:29

zipzap have you tried filtering your own water ?(it's much cheaper and less salty than bottled). It mightily improves the taste of ALL water based drinks too smile.

Mudwiggle Mon 07-Jan-13 12:08:26

Hi PM
Please can you advise if this is a 'for life' solution in itself or is this to get rid of the excess weight and then go back to ICMYT techniques?
I ask because as much as I love ICMYT principles and agree with each and every one, I don't lose much weight with it - and I've got lots to lose. I do love the CD, I listen to it at night and always sleep like a baby and wake up feeling great.
Also will you be doing shows for this like you did with ICMYT cos other MNrs that have been report great success.
TIA

Mudwiggle Mon 07-Jan-13 12:13:41

ZipZap - I tried apple cider vinegar in a pint of water after reading about it's health benefits. (There are lots, google it). Now I actually use it quite regularly rather like I would squash. It's tangy and I guess an acquired taste, but definitely worth a try.

dontstopmenow Mon 07-Jan-13 12:45:44

Hi Paul, I am a chronic over-eater. I have been overweight since I was about 14 years old and even before that had problems with food; for example stealing sweet things from food cupboard at home, eating it all and hiding the evidence. Now I am a wife and mother of two, and about 9 stone overweight, I really want to be a healthy weight with a healthy relationship with food. I tried your ICMYT book about 5 years ago but found that it didn't really work for me as I need to be able to eat in designated time slots whilst at work and dont have the luxury of going to eat when I am hungry. Any suggestions? Do you think your Gastric Band book would work better for me? Thank you!

Mudwiggle Mon 07-Jan-13 12:46:39

[waits patiently]

Tee2072 Mon 07-Jan-13 12:46:52

Hi Paul

I know nothing about any of your weight loss stuff but am interested to see that most people who apparently have done ICMYT don't keep the weight off.

Do you have any stats as to who does it and actually keeps their weight off?

RachelMumsnet (MNHQ) Mon 07-Jan-13 12:48:08

Paul has just joined us and is ready to start answering your questions. Welcome back to Mumsnet Paul McKenna

NettleTea Mon 07-Jan-13 12:51:27

Hi Paul. Will be speaking to you later in the hangout, but checking here first

marzipanpig Mon 07-Jan-13 12:52:41

Welcome Paul!

Is there a surefire way of overcoming real sugar/ chocolate pangs and binges which arrive with PMT?

PaulMcKenna Mon 07-Jan-13 12:53:06

Thank you so much for giving me this opportunity to talk to you. I am very passionate about weight loss and I think my new book and CD can really help people that have failed in the past at diets. But you're welcome to ask me about anything today. So let's begin...

bopper198 Mon 07-Jan-13 12:54:45

Hi paul

I have bought your gastric band book, its very good. I was just wondering if you have to use the cd once a month, does that mean that the effects wear off over time? If so could you listen to it more or use the icmyt cd inbetween?

Thanks kate x

HavingALittleFaithBaby Mon 07-Jan-13 12:56:00

Hi Paul,

I've been following your ICMYT system for about a year with some ups and downs! I'm now 24 weeks pregnant but still trying to apply to rules to minimise the weight gain while I'm pregnant (I've only gained 3lb so far!). Is the new system compatible with pregnancy or should I wait until I have the baby before trying it?

PaulMcKenna Mon 07-Jan-13 13:01:27

timidviper

Hi Paul, I work in healthcare and am amazed at the number of people I see who think a gastric band is a magic wand which I am sure you'll agree it is not!

To be overweight you have to eat more than you need i.e. eat when not hungry. A gastric band removes hunger but it does not remove the urge to eat IYSWIM. How does this system deal with that? Is it just convincing you that you are too full to eat or does it somehow address other "hungers"

Hi what a great question. You're absolutely right, most approaches to weight loss - diets and the gastric band operation are dealing with the symptom rather than core problem. eg emotional eating. Whilst the operation definitely helps people it's costly and dangerous. It's an £8,000 operation.

The hypnotic gastric band is a safe and very inexpensive way for some people to get the same benefits. It is certainly worth trying if you have tried everything else and failed. Also, unlike the the medical procedure, because it is a sophisticated psychological procedure it deals to some extent with some of the core issues which are at the heart of weight gain.

PaulMcKenna Mon 07-Jan-13 13:04:02

bopper198

Hiya paul

I would just like to thank you really for writing your books. I can still remember the first time I read icmyt and it changed my life. Even though I could not seem to make it work for me. This was my mental state and not the system. Now I am feeling much better and purchased your new book as soon as I saw it in the shops.
I am starting it today and feel that I am in the right state of mind now that it will work for me.

But I too was wondering, the book says to listen to the cd once a month untill you have been at your goal for 6 months does this mean that the effects of the cd wear off over time? And can you listen to it more than once if you feel like it has, if that makes sense.

Thanks again.x

Hi Bopper many people are asking do I need to listen to the CD more than once? This will totally depend upon you, some people listen to my smoking CD once, and never smoke again, but others need to listen to it a repeat number of times to get the benefits. I recommend repeat listens as repetition is the mother of success - it's only half an hour a day.

bopper198 Mon 07-Jan-13 13:05:33

Thank you x

lililolo Mon 07-Jan-13 13:05:58

Hi Paul,

I came to your live show at the Hammersmith Apollo and ended up losing a couple of stone (yay!). I have kept it off (was it really two years ago?) but really could do with losing another couple to get into healthy weight ranged. For some reason I seem to have stalled, although I don't over eat or anything anymore I don't think. Any advice?

Many thanks

OnTheBusesOlive Mon 07-Jan-13 13:07:11

Breaking the rules by asking a supplementary question here, but is the new gastric band system available as a download?

PaulMcKenna Mon 07-Jan-13 13:08:44

OnTheBusesOlive

Breaking the rules by asking a supplementary question here, but is the new gastric band system available as a download?

Not yet, but it could be later on in the year. Until then you can download the CD that comes with the book to your computer and then load it on to your ipod.

PaulMcKenna Mon 07-Jan-13 13:15:05

Saker

Hello
I read your book "I can make you thin" last year and one question constantly bugged me. If I have understood correctly, you are saying that you can learn to really tune into your body and use it as your guide so that you don't eat more food than you actually need. I see the logic in that, but to actually lose weight you need to eat substantially less than your body needs - and I can't see why your body would "tell" you to eat fewer calories than you need? I can see that it is an excellent approach to not regaining weight, but I can't understand how you would actually lose weight in the first place, at least over any length of time (probably you would lose some at first as your metabolism adjusts and you increase exercise etc).

Another great question, if you've starved and binged continually over a period of time it is very likely that you've desensitised yourself from the signals that tell you if you're full or not. The hypnotic gastric band will help you recalibrate these signals.

The point you raise about why would your body tell you to eat fewer calories than you need is at the heart of why we are in the worst obesity epidemic in history. Put simply, diets encourage you to starve yourself, which helps you to lose weight in the short term. However, this then causes your metabolism to slow down, and creates habits that make you crave food. Scientific experiments continually show that starving usually ends in binging. So when you deprive yourself of food when you're truly hungry, your body thinks there's a famine on, and stores fat as a survival mechanism. This is why around 70% of people gain more weight when they come off a diet. Nobody wakes up up one morning 5 stone overweight, they gain the weight by going on one diet after another, crashing the weight off at the cost of slowing their metabolism, so they become very efficient at storing fat. Now, the good news is that metabolism is not fixed. If you've ever looked at thin people and thought it's not fair they can eat chocolate, fries, pizza and ice cream and you though they were lucky with a fast metabolism. You can too. Stop starving yourself - otherwise known as dieting. Move your body more, otherwise known as exercise. Exercise is not necessarily going to a gym and pumping iron - exercise is any movement of your body. You might be interested to know that American researchers have found that the difference between a thin person and someone who is overweight is 2,000 steps which is a fifteen minute walk.

PaulMcKenna Mon 07-Jan-13 13:17:56

HavingALittleFaithBaby

Hi Paul,

I've been following your ICMYT system for about a year with some ups and downs! I'm now 24 weeks pregnant but still trying to apply to rules to minimise the weight gain while I'm pregnant (I've only gained 3lb so far!). Is the new system compatible with pregnancy or should I wait until I have the baby before trying it?

I'm not a medical doctor, however, when you're pregnant you're building a baby so it's understandable and natural to gain weight because you're eating for two. I totally understand that you want to look your best, however, I recommend you talk to your doctor and use the system after you've given birth to return to your natural weight.

PaulMcKenna Mon 07-Jan-13 13:24:25

OnTheBusesOlive

Welcome back to MN Paul.

We met on your previous webchat when I berated you for once comparing me to Olive from On the Buses in one of your stage shows. grin You're now mostly forgiven, especially having kindly let me have tickets for the seminar in Hammersmith, where I met some lovely MNers and ripped up my Weight Watchers card.

I found the ICMYT programme initially very useful, and have been on the MN "Pauling" thread on and off under various identities.

On the positive side, I have:

- Realised that I come from a family of emotional eaters, rationalised that food does not equal love, and have broken some nasty bingeing habits.
- become less obsessed with food
- Resigned from the clean plate club
- Learnt to understand hunger better
- Taken up regular exercise for the first time in my life and really enjoy it
- Cut down on wine significantly (I know this isn't part of your remit though)

On the downside, however:
- I have lapsed from the programme. The very small amount of weight I initially lost has gone back on and some.
- I kept forgetting to listen to the CDs.
- I still can't bear to look at myself in the mirror.
- I feel like I'm back at square one.

I definitely need a kick start of some sort, so would like to ask how is the gastric band hypnosis experience different to the ICMYT programme? In particular, do you have to keep listening to CDs? And have you done any research to see how long the effect lasts?

I'd love to join the google hangout, but a) for various reasons, I can't blow my anonymity and b) those webcams can make your face look really fat.

Hi Olive - I'm so glad to hear you ripped up your Weight Watchers card, but more delighted to hear that you've had some success with the Thin system. Even though I've met many people who have lost as much as half their body weight, I have never met a single person who has done this system perfectly every day from the moment they started it. In fact, unlike a diet where you 'fall off the wagon' and then give up, my system is more of a way of life that it based upon the natural relationship you should have with food.

If you're having a bad day - as everyone does, put in your CD and I'm there to help. However, the reason I made the Hypnotic Gastric band is because I believe in doing everything you can to get the outcome. This is an entirely new approach that is compatible with the existing system. Its primary job is to feel fuller faster.

cm22v077 Mon 07-Jan-13 13:25:58

Hi Paul,

Can I just say that I used to love your show 'The Hypnotic World of Paul McKenna' - do you plan on doing any more light-hearted/comedy shows like this?

Nice to have you at Mumsnet smile

PaulMcKenna Mon 07-Jan-13 13:26:26

sarahcrowe

Hello Paul
I've just bought your Hypnotic Gastric Band book. My question is do I only listen to Track 2 once? I'm not sure it's working and wondered if I should listen daily!
Best wishes
Sarah

Hi Sarah some people notice changes straight away and for some people it takes time - like many things in life. It's a very good idea to listen to the hypnotic track (track 2) regularly - many people find it helps them sleep.

HavingALittleFaithBaby Mon 07-Jan-13 13:26:55

Thanks Paul. My concerns relate more to the fact that my BMI was 30 when I got pregnant - I don't want to gain lots to put my or my baby's health at risk. I will concentrate on eating well and exercising within my limits while I'm pregnant.

JustFabulous Mon 07-Jan-13 13:27:05

Slightly off topic but I wanted to thank you for writing the I Can Mend Your Broken Heart book and CD. I had a few wobbles after but it definitely set me off on the right road.

I had less success with ICMYT. I lost only 2lbs even though I did it but tbh my food issues are too complex.

PaulMcKenna Mon 07-Jan-13 13:29:07

Mudwiggle

Hi PM
Please can you advise if this is a 'for life' solution in itself or is this to get rid of the excess weight and then go back to ICMYT techniques?
I ask because as much as I love ICMYT principles and agree with each and every one, I don't lose much weight with it - and I've got lots to lose. I do love the CD, I listen to it at night and always sleep like a baby and wake up feeling great.
Also will you be doing shows for this like you did with ICMYT cos other MNrs that have been report great success.
TIA

Hi Mudwiggle, if your find the 'thin system' has already helped you in some ways I can only see that this can help further. Its relatively inexpensive unlike the operation and very relaxing, plus the early results we've seen from people who've used it are astounding.

I'm glad you asked me this as it gives me opo to mention the weight-loss event I have in Feb. Mumsnet will be posting up details to folllow. Let me invite you and a friend as a guest and spend the day with me and let me help you change the way you think about food forever.

PaulMcKenna Mon 07-Jan-13 13:30:58

awsangel

Hi Paul.....Have you ever had a weight problem yourself and if so is that how you developed this way of eating. Thanks.

Hello angel. I haven't had a weight problem, but I come from an overweight family and of all the things that I help people with this is the subject that I feel most passionate about. I've spent the last couple of decades in the trenches. I don't believe you've had to have suffered from a problem to help people with it.

Mudwiggle Mon 07-Jan-13 13:33:17

Wow!!! Thank you Paul, that sounds awesome, thank you. x

WeightWars Mon 07-Jan-13 13:34:17

As a student mental health nurse interested in working with people in a clinical setting to lose weight without life altering surgery hypnosis is something that comes up again and again. Most of my clientel have ongoing depression which feeds their weight problem and self esteem issues making a circle of depression.

Do you think this system could be used in a clinical setting? How do you think it could be implemented by staff? (big question I know! I'll be chatting onthe web chat later though)

PaulMcKenna Mon 07-Jan-13 13:34:19

marmitetoastie

Hi Paul,

When I go out, I'm always "the friend". You know, the nice girl that no one wants to actually date. Will your new book give me a killer pair of legs to add to my lovely personality?

I did lose weight with ICMYT but I went up and down like a yo-yo on it, every time I lost 10lbs, I put it back on again. What would you recommend for this type of threshold problem, where it all falls apart at the same point, again and again?

Thanks, MT

Hi marmite. The good news is that if you've managed to lose weight with the Thin system then you know it works. I often hear smokers say that they tried and failed. I ask them how long they stopped for and they say they stopped for 6 months. I say, that's amazing, if you can stop for 6 months you can stop for 6 years. It's the same for the Thin system. I believe that the gastric band system will be the difference that will make the difference.

PaulMcKenna Mon 07-Jan-13 13:38:07

OnwardBound

Hi Paul,

I have your ICMYT book and cd but I don't think it really worked for me sad

I used to be quite slim and had a will of iron in regards to eating healthily and not too much.

However since two pregnancies and being at home with two small DC I find that I snack and nibble on the food I buy for them - high fat cheese, biscuits, non diet yoghurts, etc.

I think my willpower has completely deserted me and I snack because I am tired, or bored or because I can't bear to see good food go to waste and so polish off the leftovers from my children's plates.

I also seem to find myself at coffee mornings where biscuits and cakes are in plentiful supply and I just can't stop myself.

I am in some sort of negative cycle where I want to lose weight and hate the way I now look but eating nice [fatty] things has become a treat and I crave the sugar high...

Would your new book and cd work for someone like me [desperate!]?

Hi there. I think a lot of people will be able to relate to what you're saying - it doesn't count when you take food off someone else's plate. You're a busy mother so you have to grab food when you can and to finish it all off you eat when you're not truly hungry but are stressed or bored. You are the person I made this system for. I know it seems hard to believe that things can significantly change, and you probably don't want the feeling of disappointment again if this doesn't work for you. However, I really think it's worth giving the gastric band a trying - and I'd also like to also invite you and a friend to my weight loss event on the 23rd. As I think you just need a little help - let me help you.

AnneEyhtMeyer Mon 07-Jan-13 13:38:45

Hi Paul,

I'm about to chat to you on the hangout, and I am so nervous but excited too. I really hope this is going to change the way I interact with food.

I have a 3 year old and the last thing I want is for her to have the same issues I have.

pinkcrystalkid Mon 07-Jan-13 13:39:35

Hi Paul,

I have tried gastric band hypnosis in the past. It worked really well for about 6 months until I had a bereavement. I clearly am an emotional eater, how does your new system help with this?

OnTheBusesOlive Mon 07-Jan-13 13:41:00

Many thanks for the replies. Unfortunately I can't really claim success though. Although my attitudes have changed, I've ultimately put weight on. Will try combining ICMYT with the gastric programme though, as it sounds intriguing. smile

PaulMcKenna Mon 07-Jan-13 13:44:48

zipzap

Hi Paul

I'm a long-standing admirer of your techniques (I attended a fab week-long NLP training course you did with Richard Bandler about 10 years ago, except I missed the last few days thanks to a flu that ended up knocking me out for 6 weeks, despite trying the self hypnosis techniques to overcome it!).

Anyhow, one thing that I haven't managed to sort out is how to teach myself to like something. I can manage the reasonable portion sizes, healthy food, avoiding chocolate etc which is great up to a point. But my problem is that I hate hate hate drinking water - it's the taste, makes me gag, always has unfortunately. Instead I tend to drink fruit juice or squash (I also hate things like tea, coffee and milk).

I stopped drinking the squashes with the low calories sugar substitutes in a few years ago, having been frighted off with tales of how bad these substitutes were for you, especially if you consumed lots of them. But it's meant I ended up drinking elderflower squash which is quite high in sugar and my weight has rocketed.

I know I need to stop drinking it. But before I do that, I need to find something to replace it with and I would like to be able to drink and enjoy water. I've been trying to drink it 'normally' for years but manage a few sips and that's it for each glass.

So I guess my question boils down to: have you got any techniques that can help me to actively like water please?

Thank you (and sorry if this isn't linked directly enough to your gastric band technique).

Hi zipzap. So glad you enjoyed the NLP training with Richard and myself. I think a part of you is still trying to diet, because you mention portion size, with the Thin system portion size is irrelevant. Diets are all about the external - eat this food, not that, blah blah blah. My system is an internal approach, all your decisions about what you eat, when you eat and how much you eat take place in your mind. Your mind is like a computer and it can be re programmed.

Water is really good for you, in fact, most of you is already made up of it! I have met people before who have negative associations to water. However,you can learn to link pleasure almost anything. Thing of something healthy that gives you immense natural PLEASURE and think about it over and over again, and when you're feeling really good, just for a moment think about water and then go straight back to thinking about pleasure over and over again. After you've done this several times you'll create a link in your brain that will associate water with good feelings.

sarahcrowe Mon 07-Jan-13 13:48:14

Thanks for your reply Paul. Will you be doing any tv shows with this new book?

PaulMcKenna Mon 07-Jan-13 13:49:53

pinkcrystalkid

Hi Paul,

I have tried gastric band hypnosis in the past. It worked really well for about 6 months until I had a bereavement. I clearly am an emotional eater, how does your new system help with this?

Well the good news is, it's worked for you already, and for 6 months, so it will obviously work again! Bereavement for many people is one of the most challenging experiences and many people use some external means, such as eating or drinking excessively to help them through this emotionally turbulent time. It's a bit like using a crutch if you hurt your leg, but when your leg is better you don't need the crutch anymore. It's common for people to keep a crutch even after a traumatic time, simply because it's familiar. My Thin CDs and DVDs are designed to help people who have this exact issue. I'm going to send you a set, and I recommend you use them regularly for a few weeks and I think it's very likely that you'll notice that you feel significantly better, and your habits around food will also change.

RachelMumsnet (MNHQ) Mon 07-Jan-13 13:50:17

Thanks for joining us today for the webchat. For those interested in the next Seminar, you can find out all the info here.

The Google hangout will be starting at 2pm and we'll post a link on this thread so you can watch it live.

PaulMcKenna Mon 07-Jan-13 13:52:12

Thank you to everyone who submitted questions, sorry if I wasn't able to answer yours specifically. However, we tried to answer the ones that were most representative of the many we received.

May this new year bring you everything you want and more. God bless.

Ooh I can be in two places at once (am on the Google hangout).

Well you all look gawjus grin

sarahcrowe Mon 07-Jan-13 14:07:01

How can I watch this? Can't find a link!

OnTheBusesOlive Mon 07-Jan-13 14:10:28

I have to go out now. Will it be possible to watch the Google Hangout later. (I just want to see how lovely and slim wmmc is now!).

Is it happening? I was supposed to be on it.

HavingALittleFaithBaby Mon 07-Jan-13 14:17:59

sarah you had to register. I was too late but they said they'd email me a link at 2 and I've not received it.

sarahcrowe Mon 07-Jan-13 14:18:52

Thanks HALF. Maybe I will be able to watch it afterwards.

ppeatfruit Mon 07-Jan-13 14:24:23

Where's the link???

ColetteTech (MNHQ) Mon 07-Jan-13 14:26:07
HavingALittleFaithBaby Mon 07-Jan-13 14:48:19

Thanks Colette!

ppeatfruit Mon 07-Jan-13 14:50:28

Yes thanks MUMSNET and Paul Mckenna!!!

Umm Olive you can go look on my FB photos!

NettleTea Mon 07-Jan-13 14:55:00

Thanks Paul and thanks mumsnet

NettleTea Mon 07-Jan-13 14:56:53

Don't know who else was on the hangout though, I was!! it was my son who ran in saying 'i love you, I love you' during my question, but was too short to be seen onscreen. Just in case anyone thinks it was me blush

escape Mon 07-Jan-13 15:02:46

Haha - I was wondering who had the little one around smile I joined late as I hadn't downloaded the plugin ( oops) but glad I did though smile
Nice to 'see you' all there smile

sammimammy Mon 07-Jan-13 15:32:07

How about just eat a bit less rubbish every day, cut down on snacks and do a little bit of exercise. Oh yeah and have lots more sex smile

ppeatfruit Mon 07-Jan-13 16:05:54

AAh sweet nettle smile shame he was too small to be seen!

Ha you can't see the side chatter on the webcast wink Nice kitchens ladies grin

ppeatfruit Mon 07-Jan-13 17:46:17

The echo was so bad on it I just tried to watch again and had to stop, shame you don't use your mn names!!!

AnneEyhtMeyer Mon 07-Jan-13 18:18:59

It was good to be on it and see some other MNetters!

My laptop overheated and cut out just after he answered my question - good job it didn't cut out while he was talking to me. Don't think I missed much, but I then had to hold the laptop up above the worksurface for the rest of it, so was a bit wobbly!

Who had the gorgeous headboard?

NettleTea Mon 07-Jan-13 19:41:07

not me. I was the one who looked like I was in a cupboard full of bags and books, with terrible lighting that made my face look purple (always a good look!)

escape Mon 07-Jan-13 19:46:06

Me too - in an unlit room with a dark headboard behind me - was just a big head smile

AnneEyhtMeyer Mon 07-Jan-13 20:46:42

This was more of a bedstead - it was gorgeous.

ppeatfruit Tue 08-Jan-13 15:53:41

How come (apart from WMMC Who used to be!!!) no one else is regularly on our thread HMMM???... we're lovely (not judgey) grin and very helpful you know !!!! grin

I'm too lazy to reliably turn up to my own meetings let alone your weight loss threads grin

Ummm everyone who was on the hangout, I'm heading down on the 23rd for the event, if anyone wants to meet up with me, PM me and I'll give you my cell number. I'll be in London early and will happily meet for coffee with whoever. Oh and yes try and avoid the phrase 'what the F* are you doing at a weight loss seminar' if you wouldn't mind. smile I still have five pounds to go.

Anne - if you mean my bed, it's carved bronze, super king and one of the nicest places to G+ from in the world.

Solo Mon 21-Jan-13 21:11:17

<sulks because I can't come too WMMC >

<sulks because Solo can't come>

I will raise my coffee cup in your honour smile

Solo Wed 23-Jan-13 22:31:25

winksmile

Solo- apparently I have two tickets. Fancy it?

Solo Sat 02-Feb-13 15:54:47

Oooh! WMMC when is it?

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