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Live webchat with Cristina Odone (Friday 23 Oct), 1-2pm

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We're delighted to announce that Cristina Odone is joining us for a webchat tomorrow lunchtime (Friday 23 Oct, 1-2pm).

Cristina has just written a paper for the Centre for Policy Studies (Tory thinktank) called What Women Want.. And How They Can Get It. In it, she argues that the Government needs to stop encouraging women/mothers back to full-time work because most of us don't want to commit to a full-time job.

In her conclusion, she says: "... we need to break the stranglehold that a small coterie of women who work fulltime and buy into the macho way of life, enjoy on our public life. They have, for years, misrepresented real women who reject the masculine value system for one that rates caring above a career, and inter-dependence above independence."

Some of you have already been discussing her views on this thread and you can download the full paper here.

Cristina is a writer, broadcaster and journalist - she was editor of the Catholic Herald and deputy editor of the New Statesman - and a mother.

If you can't join us tomorrow for the chat, please post your advance questions here.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 24-Oct-09 21:57:10
Missed her too! grin

Everything morningpaper said, except on anglo-catholicism of which I hold no views.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Fri 23-Oct-09 19:42:52
Good grief. I have just scanned the actual report, and will read it more fully at some point. Never has the research in my neck of the woods been so woefully misrepresented.

And the awful irony of the report is that there is some mileage in the basic idea that supporting women's need to care for their families properly is a good thing. But the extrapolation here is a farce.

And what MP said about the poor questioning.

And a woeful misinterpretation of what Giddens is saying.

And deluded that Human Ecology is the same as Sociology.

And she implicates MN, suggesting 'we' (with Alphamummy) have a position that defines SAHMs as 'smug': did you notice?

And a whole load of other nonsense. God, I can't even be bothered with it...
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Fri 23-Oct-09 17:56:29
Penthesileia - you raise a good point about tax allowances and the "unfairness" to couples where both adults work. Here in France just that problem arises: married couples are taxed jointly and the marginal income generated by second earners is severely eroded by the fact that they have no new allowances to offset against taxation on their second income - and they are taxed at their partner's marginal rate. I know many high-earning women here whose take-home salary barely covers their work outgoings (clothing and domestic help) while their employers are actually paying out a great deal of money to employ them, thereby creating a huge mismatch between what employers feel entitled to demand of employees and what employees feel they need to contribute.
fab post morning paper
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Fri 23-Oct-09 15:20:08
No, you wouldn't be. If your DP registered, and you had another SAHP friend who registered, and you swapped and looked after each other's children, then you'd be eligible. But not for looking after your own.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Fri 23-Oct-09 14:55:47
I think I looked into it and it had to be for registered childcare. I even looked at DP registering but I still don't think we were eligible. Will check again.
Dammit! Missed her !

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Add message | Report | Contact poster By Fri 23-Oct-09 14:25:46
Qu - Lenin... Assuming you work in a place which offers vouchers, presumably you are still able to claim them, even if your DP is a SAHM?
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Fri 23-Oct-09 14:20:02
Yes, some people benefit from childcare vouchers (though not all, of course). And that's the nub of it.

If childcare vouchers (soon to be a thing of the past anyway) were compulsory across the board, then yes, it would make sense to offer the same tax relief (ie. on £486 per month) to the working partner of a SAHP.

But childcare vouchers are/were sadly not universal.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Fri 23-Oct-09 14:15:55
Agree, but we're expected to get by as a family and there is no help or support for one to stay at home and care for kids whereas others at work can claim childcare vouchers etc.

I don't really care, we've budgeted in order to do this (and made sacrifices that friends with two working haven't had to but that's our choice) but it seems unfair that she can't have some vouchers too but I could claim them if I sent the kids to other carers. Or something, could be talking bollocks as haven't had to claim.
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