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Webchat with Clive Tyldesley: Tuesday 20 May, Midday - 1pm

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RachelMumsnet (MNHQ) Fri 16-May-14 15:41:58

We're gearing up for World Cup 2014 at Mumsnet HQ - we've got ourselves a table football in the office, Georgemumsnet is getting ready to sort out the office sweep-stake and next week we've got 2014 Fifa World cup commentator Clive Tyldesley joining us for a webchat before he heads off to Brazil.

Clive took over as ITV's principle commentator when the late Brian Moore retired after the 1998 World Cup finals. After stepping into the hot seat he won the industry's most prestigious award, 'The Royal Television Society Sports Commentator of the Year' an unprecedented four times in the space of seven years.

If any of your dcs are Fifa fanatics, you will be familiar with Clive's voice. (I often think he's actually living somewhere upstairs in our house) so we're very much looking forward meeting the man himself. Come and chat to Clive on Tuesday at midday or if you can't join in with the live chat, post up your question to him on this thread ahead of the webchat.

CliveTyldesley Tue 20-May-14 13:18:47

Thank you for participating and being kind to me.

Can I just draw all of your attention to the Bobby Moore Bowel Cancer fund. This awful disease affects as m,any women as it does men. Bobby's widow, Stephanie, enlisted me as a patron of the fund over 10 years ago because she felt I had the gift of the gab. Treating bowel cancer is as much about persuading people to discuss it and 'look' as it is about research. The advances made in breast cancer treatment by the willingness of women to do just those things has been a model for addressing similar diseases. Please don't be afraid to discuss and 'look' for signs of bowel cancer. Early diagnosis is nearly everything in combating this awful killer.

CliveTyldesley Tue 20-May-14 13:15:54

mummyglitzer

Hi Clive

Do you do your own research when it comes to all the stats that are read out or do you have a team that does it for you?

I keep most of my own records and files - that way if they're wrong there's only one person to blame. I compile neatly written, multi-coloured, handwritten charts for every game as part of my routine to try to ready myself for any eventuality. Obviously the world wide web has made access to information far easier and I can watch a recording of just about any football match played anywhere in the world. I guess that because I'm of a generation that did its exam revision by slavishly writing out and remembering, I do my match revision in exactly the same way.

CliveTyldesley Tue 20-May-14 13:13:24

kamikami

Hi Clive,
What's the best, most family friendly football club in your experience?
Is football considered a family experience / outing around the world?

You're probably talking to the wrong man. I have to confess that I rarely go to football games unless I'm wearing headphones and working. I feel a bit of a spare part when I just go along to watch. We have three boys between the ages of 18 and 20 and even in a football household, there are so many other attractions and distractions competing for their time and attention, I must admit none of them are a tenth as football mad as I was at the same age. I think that football is in danger of taking it's public forgranted and therefore the clubs that do make a concious effort, both in their pricing and their facilities to encourage the next generation of football fans are thinking outside of the box much more clearly than a lot of the Premier League giants that routinely fill their stadia on a weekly basis. Who, in your experience, are the most family friendly club, kamikami?

CliveTyldesley Tue 20-May-14 13:10:08

Angeleno

Hi Clive,

Which footballer do you think has the most fun name to say? grin

And one more... Of all the stadia you have been to over the years, which is your favourite and why?

Thanks! thanks

When Bulgaria played at Wembley a couple of years ago, they had a right back named Shitov. First time I said his name I followed it by adding 'sorry, folks there's just no other way of saying it'. The best names to shout have a dramatic ring when the player scores, Rooney and Shearer are both good examples - Fred, less of a good example. The first time I commentated on Steve McManaman, I called him 'the man with the never ending name'. Now, in this 21st century world of broken marriages there is suddenly a glut of players with hyphenated names that go on for twice as long.

CliveTyldesley Tue 20-May-14 13:00:55

Crumblemum

Thanks for the Answer Clive. What are the more significant issues?

I have a lot of sympathy with your situation, but what you say about scrutiny, is exactly what politicians, bankers, other say - 'we get more scrutiny than anyone else'.

Surely that's right, you're at the top of your game, in a very privileged position, paid well to do a job and can have a significant impact on the industry/ area you work in. I'm sure Jeremy Clarkson doesn't feel under-scrutinised!

My biggest concern as somebody who considers himself to work in journalism is the way that news reporters in particular seem to underestimate the level of interest, intelligence and inquisitiveness that many of us have. I lose count of the number of times that a complex news story is presented to us in a tidy 3 minutes during which we are offered a kindergarten outline of the facts, some contesting soundbites and then a stand-up in front of 10 Downing Street to tell us what we are supposed to make of it. Look how people like Andrew Mitchell, Lord McAlpine and even Bill Roache were portrayed when their stories broke. I don't remember too many apologies from major news networks to any of them. I can't draw too many parallels between the relatively lightweight subject of football and heavy news stories, but the man that I learnt the most from - the late Reg Gutteridge - always taught me never to talk down to the audience or to assume too much knowledge. We all remember that maths class at school where we sat at the back of the room for an hour without understanding a single word that was said. We are too frightened to ask questions sometimes. There are many occasions when I get to the end of a national news story on TV and feel exactly the same and that can't be right.

Duffy Tue 20-May-14 12:58:47

Thanks Clive - let's hope the work the FA is doing begins to show at tournament level soon (if not this year grin). Thanks so much for coming on to Mumsnet and enjoy Brazil!

CliveTyldesley Tue 20-May-14 12:55:50

Tolkeen

Clive, who's your favourite footballer playing today in terms of personality? Is there anyone who's simply just a really really nice person and deserves a shout out for that considering all the bad press footballers get grin ooh and most misunderstood?!

I'm going to make a bold statement. My late great grandma always told me to take people as you find them. What little contact I've had with John Terry, I've been very impressed by the man. There, I've said it. The nicest men in football - honestly, the list is so long. I occasionally come across people that I've always wanted to meet who turn out to be a bit of a disappointment, but only very occasionally. I'm afraid that as with most members of the male species, in a group we can be a pain, but meet them individually and most footballers not only have a genuine passion for the game but have an innate intelligence that is often under rated. In the last 18 months, both my wife and I have come to know Roy Keane very well and he is a totally different individual from the one that I pre-judged from a distance. But how often do we find that to be true with so many people that we meet in life.

CliveTyldesley Tue 20-May-14 12:52:21

Duffy

I take the point about the British psyche and our need to knock people off their pedestals but it doesn't really address the fact that technically our players seem to be less good than the players of other nations of a similar size - I'm thinking Spain, Germany, France, Italy here. Do you think there's something we could be doing better on the coaching side? (I'm always struck by how competitive kids' football is, often see coaches encouraging young kids in matches just to boot the ball up field.)

You are spot on. That competitiveness is also part of our psyche. I have stood on touch lines watching my son play through his junior years here the result of the game was far more important to the parents than it was to the players and that translates into the youngsters performances and development. I can promise you that the FA are well aware of these short comings and are doing everything they can to promote the development of skills to match our natural British competitiveness. When I talk to people like Gareth Southgate and Sir Trevor Brooking they assure me that there are already very positive signs with the skill and technical levels at under 17 level. Hopefully the cream of that crop will be allowed to improve alongside the best of mainland European stars at their British clubs and that we will see the benefits at national level when I'm sitting in my rocking chair watching England with a glass of red.

kamikami Tue 20-May-14 12:48:35

Hi Clive,
What's the best, most family friendly football club in your experience?
Is football considered a family experience / outing around the world?

Duffy Tue 20-May-14 12:46:12

I take the point about the British psyche and our need to knock people off their pedestals but it doesn't really address the fact that technically our players seem to be less good than the players of other nations of a similar size - I'm thinking Spain, Germany, France, Italy here. Do you think there's something we could be doing better on the coaching side? (I'm always struck by how competitive kids' football is, often see coaches encouraging young kids in matches just to boot the ball up field.)

Crumblemum Tue 20-May-14 12:40:41

Thanks for the Answer Clive. What are the more significant issues?

I have a lot of sympathy with your situation, but what you say about scrutiny, is exactly what politicians, bankers, other say - 'we get more scrutiny than anyone else'.

Surely that's right, you're at the top of your game, in a very privileged position, paid well to do a job and can have a significant impact on the industry/ area you work in. I'm sure Jeremy Clarkson doesn't feel under-scrutinised!

CliveTyldesley Tue 20-May-14 12:40:40

cantwaitforEaster

Hi Clive,

Why do you think England punch below their weight on the football field? Why have we not won anything since '66! <sob>

Hopefully we will punch above our weight this summer because the public seem to have put the England team in a lighter weight division for once. I often look at my own profession and ask myself what it would be like to try to perform as a high profile footballer under the unsympathetic scrutiny we place our most talented performers. Whether that reflects or leads the nation's attitude towards England players is an interesting debate. I don't think that there is any doubt that the astronomical amounts of money that modern players can earn has created a gap between them and their public. You don't see John Terry in Sainsburys, do you? But they are the most talented players available to both clubs and country, in a sport that is more competitive than any other in the world. They are the cream of the crop and while we sometimes adore them beyond their worth, I think it is part of our national and certainly media psyche to bring them down to earth as often and as cruelly as we are able.

CliveTyldesley Tue 20-May-14 12:36:57

WhatUsain

Hi Clive,

Do you ever find it hard to switch off from the job and find yourself internally commentating every day tasks like driving or doing the food shop?

I am genuinely lucky to have a very happy home and family life and even luckier to have a wonderful wife who can take or leave football so that's what we do when I get home. We are far more passionate about Breaking Bad and Dexter than we are about Match of the Day - sorry Gary!

CliveTyldesley Tue 20-May-14 12:35:23

noidles

Can you give us your prediction for who's going to win the World Cup? (If it isn't England, of course...)

I think Argentina have got the best players and the most important man at the finals might be the former Sheffield United player, Alex Sabella. Even without Carlos Tevez he has 6 or 7 of the most talented attacking players in the tournament at his disposal. His mistake may be to try to shoehorn more than 3 of them into his starting 11. He will have some egos to manage but also some of the most gifted attacking players in Brazil this summer. How he uses them may determine if Argentina fulfil their potential. Good luck, Alex!

CliveTyldesley Tue 20-May-14 12:33:21

eggsandham

Hi Clive. Thanks for coming on here. I'm a Manchester United fan so of course remember your commentary from the 1999 Cup Final so well. I've always wanted to ask you - what on earth possessed you to say "Name on the trophy" after we'd equalised? Do you have ESP? wink

That line worked for me that night. 5 years later England led France by a single goal going into the final moments of a vital European Championship game in Lisbon, and the French coach was about to join Tottenham as their new manager. I said something to the effect of 'the poor guy is going to walk into every ground in the country next season to chants of 1-0, 1-0'. Three minutes later France had won 2-1 - it was my fault. If Bayern had equalised and gone on to beat United, you wouldn't have the same opinion of me, would you?!

CliveTyldesley Tue 20-May-14 12:30:44

basgetti

Hi Clive. What is the most memorable or exciting game you have commentated on?

I love football and I love my job. It is all I've ever wanted to do from my early teens, but it is a job and so the best games have been the ones that have furthered my career. In that sense, the Champions League finals of 1999 and 2005 probably qualify as the most memorable of my career. So far!

CliveTyldesley Tue 20-May-14 12:29:21

Katn

hi clive my DP is a huge football obssesive and he wanted me to ask you "how do you keep on talking for 90 minutes during a game when nothing much is happening?"

i imagine it takes some practise...

also do you think we would ever see a female commentator?

I think the key is to not talk when there's nothing much happening! People often ask me the main difference between radio and TV broadcasting - the answer is simple, in TV you are nothing like as important because it is a picture medium - we are the accompaniment to the main event. I often liken it to background music in a restaurant - if you go into an Indian restaurant and there is generic Indian music playing, you hardly notice it. If you went into an Italian restaurant and they were playing Indian music, you would probably complain. I've got the be the right music for the right restaurant and that sometimes means just shutting the hell up! The best piece of commentary I've ever done - the 6 seconds of silence between Ole Solskjaer scoring in 1999 and me saying anything at all.

CliveTyldesley Tue 20-May-14 12:26:52

CliveTyldesley

Crumblemum

Please say something about Richard Scudamore. Of course anyone's free to have sexist views or tell really naff jokes, but I really don't think they should be free to continue, completely unsanctioned in their job, when their job involves promoting equality.

Millions of women watch football every week, the women's game is going from strength to strength and we're meant to be bidding for the women's world cup. Please say something in support of all the women football fans who were really pi**ed off by the original comments and the completely archaic way the Premier League responded.

I think there are considerably more significant issues surrounding attitudes towards women within football which are in danger of becoming overshadowed by the endless column inches and broadcast hours dedicated to this one matter. I genuinely believe that at the same level of scrutiny that is applied to what prominent figures within football say and do to other industries and cultures within our country that the environment for minorities of one kind or another would be a lot healthier, even in my own business I hear Jeremy Clarkson routinely say things on Top Gear that would get me sacked. There is already a lot of scrutiny of a sport which has produced a multi-racial national team that has done as much as anything to break down some of the traditional barriers that I grew up with.

In one sense women's football has never been in a healthier state in this country. The Premier League is extending, the national team is successful and players like Kelly Smith have probably never had a higher profile. But the evidence suggests that participation in the game by women is suffering in a slight decline at the moment. It is easy to jump to headline conclusions about this but like all of the serious issues within the game, it needs proper investigation before we make knee-jerk statements. In my business, there have never been more female football reporters in press boxes and on TV screens and yet despite Jacqui Oatley's initial breakthrough on Match of the Day, no female football commentator has been able to establish herself at a national level. I do genuinely believe that this will happen, and although it is incumbent upon senior figures within broadcasting - myself included - to encourage and school potential commentators, it will be more lasting if the change happens organically and naturally by a truly outstanding female broadcaster emerging that the nation wants to hear from, instead of me!

Katn Tue 20-May-14 12:26:33

hi clive my DP is a huge football obssesive and he wanted me to ask you "how do you keep on talking for 90 minutes during a game when nothing much is happening?"

i imagine it takes some practise...

also do you think we would ever see a female commentator?

ToadofToadInTheHole Tue 20-May-14 12:25:11

Hello!

Do you actually record lines for the Fifa game, or do they just use existing ones?

CliveTyldesley Tue 20-May-14 12:22:59

Crumblemum

Please say something about Richard Scudamore. Of course anyone's free to have sexist views or tell really naff jokes, but I really don't think they should be free to continue, completely unsanctioned in their job, when their job involves promoting equality.

Millions of women watch football every week, the women's game is going from strength to strength and we're meant to be bidding for the women's world cup. Please say something in support of all the women football fans who were really pi**ed off by the original comments and the completely archaic way the Premier League responded.

I think there are considerably more significant issues surrounding attitudes towards women within football which are in danger of becoming overshadowed by the endless column inches and broadcast hours dedicated to this one matter. I genuinely believe that at the same level of scrutiny that is applied to what prominent figures within football say and do to other industries and cultures within our country that the environment for minorities of one kind or another would be a lot healthier, even in my own business I hear Jeremy Clarkson routinely say things on Top Gear that would get me sacked. There is already a lot of scrutiny of a sport which has produced a multi-racial national team that has done as much as anything to break down some of the traditional barriers that I grew up with.

WhatUsain Tue 20-May-14 12:21:07

Hi Clive,

Do you ever find it hard to switch off from the job and find yourself internally commentating every day tasks like driving or doing the food shop?

cantwaitforEaster Tue 20-May-14 12:18:44

Hi Clive,

Why do you think England punch below their weight on the football field? Why have we not won anything since '66! <sob>

Tolkeen Tue 20-May-14 12:18:29

Clive, who's your favourite footballer playing today in terms of personality? Is there anyone who's simply just a really really nice person and deserves a shout out for that considering all the bad press footballers get grin ooh and most misunderstood?!

CliveTyldesley Tue 20-May-14 12:17:58

Yiska

Extremely high brow question here Clive... (hello btw)

Top snacks while watching football on telly?

Haut Medoc

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