D'ya ever wonder where all the other mums of multiples are?

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bubby64 Thu 04-Oct-12 13:05:26

....or have we scared them all off with our inane chatter and multple moans!

<<sits her lardy bum down on the settee>> <<puts her bottle of white cider in the fridge>>

bubby64 Thu 04-Oct-12 17:04:00

And we wait to see who turns up! <<plopping own large behind down beside Shabs, hopes sofa is sturdy and adding kettle chips and rollmops to the trolley>>

Chopstheduck Thu 04-Oct-12 17:07:19

I guess no one want so share my venison steak with blue cheese sauce then? grin

<<puts white rioja on ice for later>>

<<has second thoughts and pours glass out already>>

This week is dragging and I'm sure it should be Friday by now?! Hey bubby, any news on the car and getting it repaired? Seen the pics on facebook, it's such a beautiful car!

TheMightyRubester Thu 04-Oct-12 22:40:11

Ah

Is this where we are now then?

<<runs finger along sideboard checking for dust>>

triplets Thu 04-Oct-12 23:14:58

Ah ha............this is where you all got to, who said you could take my trolley shock. Now I can tell you where all the other mums of multiples are, they are at home where they should be, looking after their offspring, not flopping on sofas, kicking off shoes onto the shag pile and filling the fridge with wine instead of baby milk? What I am trying to say is, should we not occasionally talk about our multiples? Right, that said here goes...................er.....um............oo I wish I was planning a road trip, we have done one in 91, one in 93 with Matthew and the big one on 2007 with the trio. This was our last one.
San Fran-Modesto-Yosemite-Death Valley (takes 8 hours) Vegas-Williams-Grand Canyon-Sedona-Palm Desert-Anaheim.
Williams is fun, we stayed at The Red Garter Saloon, former bordello, its on route 66. Take the steam train from there to GC, great fun!
After Matthew died Harry and I went over and flew to SF, then over to Saulsilito, then into Sonoma, wine country, lovely. We have also done Lake Tahoe, amazing and gold country around Columbia. Many many happy memories.
What about a MN meet up in San Fran..................wouldn`t that be awesome smile

triplets Thu 04-Oct-12 23:21:04

Also done drive down to LA from San Fran, very pretty, stopped at Hearst Castle, def worth a visit, Monterey, Solvang, Madonna Inn, Santa Barbara, San Luis Obispo, San Diego, Palm Springs and the beautiful stunning Joshua Tree State Park. There isn`t lot you can do in Death Valley, in July/August really is too hot to step out of the car! Just my fav place on earthsmile

shock we have walked almost identical paths around USA.....we were offered work in Santa Barbara, love San Louis Obispo....too weird for words - we rode everywhere on the Greyhound bus - taking care to sit at the front and not with the local nutters at the back grin

triplets Thu 04-Oct-12 23:49:58

what year Shabs? I always sit on the back of the bus grin

Went with my Mam & Dad for a month in 1972 then for two weeks with DK about 1979 and then me and DK lived in Utah for six months in 1980/1981

Chopstheduck Fri 05-Oct-12 06:33:56

<<frantically scribbles notes>>

I don't think we are going to get time to be able to drive the coast ib between sf and la, sadly. I've seen pics on google and it looks stunning. Really could do with about a month there!

I can't find Williams on the map. Only one near SF, not near the canyon. Palm springs is where dh's cousin lives, lucky git!

Dh really wants to go to Lake Tahoe, but we would only have time to visit the south side of it, is it worth it? Seems that all the best bits are further north from my research.

Morning girls xx

triplets Fri 05-Oct-12 15:15:31

Williams is Arizona, we went there from Vegas. I`ll find a link for you for the hotel.

triplets Fri 05-Oct-12 15:17:10
triplets Fri 05-Oct-12 15:21:44

duh...........wrong
www.redgarter.com

triplets Fri 05-Oct-12 23:18:53

<<Trips looks in and wonders why its so tidy, shag pile still fluffy, glasses dried and put away.......hmm wonders if there is another meet up somewhere that she hasn`t been told about............reheats chips from chip shop, leaves homemade shallots, pickled eggs and lashing of bread and butter>>

Morning girls xx

Chopstheduck Sat 06-Oct-12 07:25:47

Morning girls!

Oh that place looks lovely trips.

lovely miserable weather outside and no plans whatsoever for this weekend. It's gonn abe a long one!

bubby64 Sat 06-Oct-12 13:56:41

Hi all - only done NY and the disney areas here, tho would love to do more.
Chops - update on car is that the insurance wrote it off as financially un-repairable, as they got a quote from the accident repairers was for a whopping £17,000shock, but they were not really interested in repairing it and quoted a stupid figure so they wouldn't have to do so. We have had a quote from someone who knows what they are doing with amarican classics for £9,000.
Our insurance states we get the car back for free, and this chap now has the car, and we are waiting for payout from the insurance. They are being awkward, and saying the car is not worrth the insurance value, and we are contesting that at the moment, as we again have had an expert who said it was actually under-insured , not over! The battle continues - insurance companies are quick to take the money and really slow to pay out!!

dawnpreview Sat 06-Oct-12 19:02:17

Can I join you?
I have twins (and wine!)

<<Hovers in the corner, hoping that someone speaks to me>>

KateShmate Sat 06-Oct-12 19:07:10

I have triplets and rarely go many places without them, but the times that I do I nearly always see another mum with triplets! I give the 'knowing' smile, then forget I haven't got my trio so poor mums probably think I'm a total weirdo!

We've got quite a few friends with twins, but none, so far, with triplets!

<<waves to Dawn>> Fancy sharing the wine? grin

dawnpreview Sat 06-Oct-12 20:13:09

As long as you don't mind swigging it out of the bottle Kate! smile

Chigertick Sat 06-Oct-12 20:17:18

Hope you dont mind another newbie - Can I flop on the sofa too? I have 19 month old b/g twins.

GupX Sat 06-Oct-12 20:19:35

Hi (removes fake moustache)

Tis I, ZippysMum.

DTs are now THREE!!!!

Where did those years go????

grin

bubby64 Sat 06-Oct-12 20:39:08

Hi there Dawn, Katies, Tiger and GupX. You are very welcome on here. I am the mum of 11yr old twin boys, and I am sure the others will be here to introduce themselves soon. We tend to talk about our lives with the DC and our lives and families in general. Just sit down for a gossip really.
There have been numerous "D'ya ever wonder" threads,this was the last one

KateShmate Sat 06-Oct-12 21:10:13

Bottle, straw - I'm not fussy Dawn !

Ha, sorry bubby I thought this post was a genuine question - I honestly can never find any other multiple mums in RL! What a wally! grin

triplets Sat 06-Oct-12 22:45:55

<<Trips takes out the curlers, kicks off slippers and dons apron..................OMG we have visitors.......panic.............looks in pantry, rustles up a selection of canapes (leftover from last weeks meetup) and dashes into shed for dh`s home made raspberry wine>>
blush forgets her manners.................."Oh please do come in, no need to take your shoes off.............the shag pile has seen worsegrin

TheMightyRubester Sun 07-Oct-12 08:11:36

grin @ 'the shag pile has seen worse'

It most certainly has Trips.

Welcome all smile I don't need to change out of my pyjamas do I?

Morning girls xx

<<peels her tongue from the roof of her mouth>>

It is all Chelles fault - she made me drink grin

Chigertick Sun 07-Oct-12 10:01:52

Definitely no need to stand on ceremony - I just want a little corner where I can sleep close my eyes quietly smile

<<yawns, stretches and scratches her bum>>

You can have this corner if you want!!

Chopstheduck Sun 07-Oct-12 10:12:52

Ooh well done bubby, you're new title has lured in lots of fresh victims newbies!

Welcome, everyone! I'm a mum of four, dd is 12 (hormonal preteen going on 16), ds1 is 10, has sn (HMS, DCD, some sort of ASD, currently being assed for ADHD - were collecting the alphabet! grin) the dts are 7 and prob the easiest out of the lot for now.

<<stacks the trolley wi bacon sarnies and a pot of tea>>

Do hope you get the car sorted bubby, they will try it on, just don't take no for an answer. When dh wrote off his fiesta we rejected two quotes before finally getting something nearer its value.

<<burps and tastes cider>> Ewwww I am dog rough this morning.

Got any brown sauce for them bacon buttys Chops?

Chopstheduck Sun 07-Oct-12 10:43:13

<<sighs and tips the hollandaise down the sink and replaces it with hp>>

I dunno, these Northerners hmm

grin

LOL xx

triplets Sun 07-Oct-12 11:14:32

<<sprays Febreeze around to disguise the smell of kippers>>

triplets Sun 07-Oct-12 11:16:08

Shabs, I would never have put you down as a pj sort of girl.........I`m a nightshirt girl myself.......

triplets Sun 07-Oct-12 22:47:58

Aw c`mon girls...............looking forward I was to some company...........newbies...........anyone??

TheMightyRubester Sun 07-Oct-12 22:55:31

I'm here Trips

....... I'm bloody knackered - but I'm here x

triplets Sun 07-Oct-12 23:15:49

Ahhhhhh Rubester, por quoi et vous knackered?

triplets Sun 07-Oct-12 23:31:09

Guess you`ve gone to your bed...............night night all xx

Morning girls xx

Was too cream crackered to lift an eyelid last night Trips!! x

Chopstheduck Mon 08-Oct-12 07:45:43

morning girls x

Chopstheduck Mon 08-Oct-12 08:23:03

I gonna be on the radio in ten mins for a comp - eeeek!

Absolute if anyone wants to listen!

ooooohhhhh good luck Chopster - <<crosses fingers tightly>>

Chopstheduck Mon 08-Oct-12 08:56:01

I didn't win sad

Apparently he called me 'posh kelly'!! I guess they thought I didnt need it the prize. But I am getting vouchers smile

Would love to be called 'posh Shabba' hmm cant see that ever happening!!!

<<goes back to shouting and insulting Lorraine Kelly on Daybreak>>

Chigertick Mon 08-Oct-12 09:57:00

Sorry I posted and then really did try and find a corner to sleep!

Have had 2 weeks of very sleepless nights as DS has an ear infection an ongoing occurrence. Except this time instead of treating it with anti bios as usual we had to experiment try giving a very low dose which was supposed to last for 2 months.
He has obviously been in agony - bloomin doctors.angry Finally got the proper dose over the weekend and sleep and peace restored for all!
It's a very rainy morning here but we're meeting my BF and her DD for our tots that rock group and lunch.
Have a good day everyone!

Chopstheduck Mon 08-Oct-12 10:01:01

aww poor boy! glad he on the mend now.

Sokmonsta Mon 08-Oct-12 10:16:56

Dips toe in gingerly to say "Hi"

Confesses to having a 4yo Dd (at school grin), 2yo Ds (at Nana and Grandad's grin, and 6mo B/G twins (asleep in pushchair after school run)

House is a tip but I'm enjoying a late breakfast before tidying up the detritus of mass christening yesterday.

shock sounds like you have your hands full Soka.....dont you just love how many people say that to you grin

<<watches the news and gives Osbourne the 'finger'>>

Im thinking of starting a revolution against the Government - anybody interested lol.....there's just me in my living room (of course with my blinds closed?????) sat on my lazy benefit claiming arse bum at the moment!!!

Mr Osbourne I will have you know that I dont have blinds in my benefit claiming living room....but I will draw my curtains if you carry on!!!

bubby64 Mon 08-Oct-12 11:15:21

Hi All, (again) Kate, no need to apologise, we are all on the lookout for new victims friends who are in the same boat as us, as you can see, we all have kids of variing ages, and there is usually someone who can say "been there, done that" with problems/questions about living with multiples and the headaches they cause , as well as life in general.
Shabs - I heard on the news Osbourne was intending to stick it to the poorest in society who can't complain, instead of his 'friends in high places', I take it he is going on about how well off those on benifits actually are... like to see him live off of them for a month or more, and see how he changes his tune.

bubby64 Mon 08-Oct-12 11:17:58

Sok, My house is a tip, and I can't even blame a christening, just living with 2 preteens and a DH who often behaves like one!!!grin

Chopstheduck Mon 08-Oct-12 11:18:22

Infuriating isn't it shabs. I don't have blinds neither, wots that all about? I'll join you though I'm sat on my benefit claiming arse too. Ds1 will also join, he's only 10 and already claiming benefits, got him started good and early! grin

wow, sokmonsta! I had similar age gaps with my four, it's just a blur now!

Chopstheduck Mon 08-Oct-12 11:19:41

I'd like to see him spend a day using a wheelchair, in pain and not able to stand and then see what he thinks about DLA 'scroungers'

bubby64 Mon 08-Oct-12 11:29:05

Chigertick one of my 2 had recurrent ear infections when he was young, he had small 'tubes' everywhere concerning ENT, ears, eyes, the lot, so had stents put in his tear ducts and grommets in his ears, also had tonsils & adenoids out, and has been fine since then <<touching wood>>, but I can sympathise, as it seemed to go on forever at first, the feeling of endless days and nights of unhappy, grizzling child is so hard to cope with when you can't help them moresad

Oh aye he is prattling on about how lucky us dole dossers are. Would love to have one attempt at punching him in the face or kneeing him in the nuts grin

triplets Mon 08-Oct-12 11:55:25

He`d need low slung nuts with your short legs Shabs (said in posh accent) grin
Welcome to our new victims friends, did you bring cake??

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Trips....remember 'Its not the size of the dog in the fight its the size of the fight in the dog!!'

<<realises she has just called herself a dog and hopes no bugger else notices>>

KateShmate Mon 08-Oct-12 16:04:02

Ahh hahaha thanks bubba !
No cake am afraid triplets , but I would say that it was a sensible time to start on the wine?

Well I will do you a little inventory of my children.. smile
3YO triplets,
a 5YO (just started school)
and a 6YO
All girls!

That's about it for me!

<<hides in a corner trembling at the thought of daughters>>

Chopstheduck Mon 08-Oct-12 19:05:41

<<hides behind Shabs>>

5 girls, wow! I've always found my one daughter incredibly hard work! I have a deal on with Shabs to swap her for Tom but Shabs ran away

Are they all very girly? Dd was into pink, dresses, etc a that age but now toying with emo stuff- eek!

KateShmate Mon 08-Oct-12 19:43:27

Ah see I would find boys really hard - we do girls best ;) 99% of people always ask 'Ooh I bet you're desperate for a boy', but we're so used to girls that we wouldn't know what to do with a boy!
Its funny how my girls are all so different really Chops
DD1 is girly but not 'pink obsessed' which is nice, loves crafts and dressing up but more than happy to get her hands dirty!
DD2 is crazy - a total tom boy! When it was that crazy torrential rain/flooding weather, we stuck her outside in her swimming costume - she loved it!
DTrips aren't particularly girly or tom-boyish really, pretty similar to DD1 - one minute they want to dress head to toe in pink and shower themselves in glitter, the next minute 'girly toys' are 'babyish'!

bubby64 Mon 08-Oct-12 19:46:33

WOW!! Hats off to you Kate, never will I complain about my two again... no, take that back, I don't think not complaining about my two would be possible...Just wait til they are teenagers...all that PMT in the same housegrin<<shudders at the thought>>>

Chopstheduck Mon 08-Oct-12 20:06:24

They sound fab, Kate!

Bubby, that's mean! My first thought as that too though! grin dd can be so hormonal already. She can be very sweet sometimes too though.

With the boys, hormones just usually equals them beating the crap out of each other, and I can put headphones on and leave them to it grin

<<plonks down dutchapple cake, courtesy of ds1 - its actually rather good!>>

KateShmate Mon 08-Oct-12 20:12:11

Oooh don't remind me - stuff the PMT, think about the shopping money they will all want!
And all the sleepovers, and the teenage strops and back-chatting! ....

Chopstheduck Mon 08-Oct-12 20:34:35

Ooh just wait til they discover Primark!

triplets Mon 08-Oct-12 22:49:22

ADVANCED WARNING
Triple trouble teens, they are going to be the end of me.
I am in bed with my shoulders up round my ears with stress.
Dd against my wishes brings a friend home from school.
They disobey me and clear off in the pouring rain in their uniforms, no coat.
The friends mother phones ranting where is her dd.
Then boys friend turns up.
Girls return.
I now have 5 x`s 14yr olds in the house.
The walls are shaking to My Chemical Romance.
The walls and cat are pitted with BB bullets by boys friend Harry.
Mother turns up to collect daughter, goes off in a huff.
My dd says "God, what the hell, why are you all so mean" and storms off upstairs.
We all eat supper whilst friend Harry plays x box, he apparently is locked out until his mother returns from work.
BB`s are being fired from the bedroom window.
Dh loses it and asks friend to take his gun and himself home.
He does neither.
All four teens sit in the kitchen watching Simpsons.
Peace at last, we settle down to watch Brits Award from last night.
Screams from the kitchen, Harry has fired and hit Becca.
She pulls tablecloth and two bowls of coco pops and milk go everywhere.
I scream.
Harry runs home.
I scream "bloody kids, get all this cleaned up and get to your beds".
Dd flicks back hair and says,"what the hell, what did we do, chill out"
And all this goes on and Dk (dh for the newbies) is still watching Brits Awards.
Save me somebody.....................save me.

Put the 3 of them over your knee and slap their arses really hard OR the back of their legs - that hurts even more. Thats what my Mam would have done with me and I have no doubt your Mam would have done with you Trips.

Kids are bloody hard work these days - I blame it all on stuff like X Factor (sound like my Nan) grin

Tom gave me the rolling eye look tonight....I just looked at him and he said 'What? What now?' without looking again I said 'You have homework, your homework has to be done tonight....I HAD TO DO HOMEWORK, I PASSED MY GCSE's AND O LEVELS, SO GET UP OFF YOUR LAID BACK ARSE AND GET IT DONE!!!' grin

It was done!

I need to do 100 lines - I MUST STOP SAYING ARSE ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE NEW MULTIPLE MUMS ON OUR THREAD.

triplets Mon 08-Oct-12 23:34:40

Trouble is Shabs, I am shouting in three directions..............its driving me insane, they are sooooooooo selfish, no wonder I can`t sleep!

triplets Mon 08-Oct-12 23:36:34

and I must stop saying the f word when provoked, even in a posh accent......tis no excuseblush

oh no..........what will the newbies think of me shock

I dont know how you do it Trips - I am in awe of you. Maybe a cattle prod, some Mace or a stun gun would help grin

triplets Mon 08-Oct-12 23:51:02

or a one way ticket to Faliraki Shabs!!
Kale Nits xx

FuriousP Mon 08-Oct-12 23:55:59

Trips, lock all your lot out so they go round someone else's house and drive them mad for a change!
My 2 watched the film Prometheus tonight with DH in the dining/xbox/ tv room. homework done beforehand and bags packed before 2hrs of peace for me in the living room, bliss

You are only going to my beloved Faliraki if I am coming with you Trips xxxx

Chopstheduck Tue 09-Oct-12 06:36:36

Morning girls x

That's far too smug, FuriousP, it will come back to bite you winkgrin

I do dread when mine reach that point where they are older and don't go to bed and leave me with that 2 hours of peace. <<packs bag ready for escape>>

Shay would def ignore me too. Dd and ds1 have more respect, and wouldn't dare point blank refuse to do as they are told. Shay does whatever the hell he wants, he is very bright, quite a bit cocky, and absolutely bloody minded. Most of the time he is good, but if he doesn't want to be I will just be stuffed, he'll just do what he wants anyway! Rav will mostly do as he is told but throw screaming hissy fits.

I swear too much too blush I think it is probably mandatory when dealing with multiples!

Morning girls xx

Got Lew here - heavy cold, the runs and being sick....joy of joys grin

Got to pick up Chelles son from primary school at 3.15 because the mighty Chellester has only got herself a job!!

....then tonight its French revision with Tom.

Oh the joys of being a parent and Grandparent!!

Chopstheduck Tue 09-Oct-12 09:08:13

Oh no! Seems to be taking the mick a bit, u get him when he is ill! Hope you don't catch it x

bagpuss Tue 09-Oct-12 09:20:12

Hey ladies, can I return too? I promise to Hoover the shag pile and buy the choccy nuts for trips grin.

GupX, my dts were three last week. I honestly don't know how time has flown by so quickly. I can still remember what I was doing three years ago today, like it was yesterday really.

Dawn, Kate and chiger, hello there! This is a fab thread - this lot were a massive support to me when my dts were born smile. <<wipes tear away from eye>>

triplets Tue 09-Oct-12 09:23:14

Poor Lew though Shabs xx
What dates can you do Faliraki?
Dd went off today having no wash or teeth brushed....................because she did it last night.
Tomorrow my two boys are meeting Princess Anne at their school, they seem quite impressed, their sister is not!
Off to my mums to do some more clearing sad

triplets Tue 09-Oct-12 09:24:57

Bagpuss....................how lovely to have you back! What have you been up to? Can`t believe its three years!! Thank you for the nuts, you rememberedsmile

Chopstheduck Tue 09-Oct-12 09:29:44

aww, trips, thinking of you. Is there much more to do?

bagpuss! welcome back x

Chopstheduck Tue 09-Oct-12 09:30:51

I met princess anne once. We were at the norfolk show looking around a craft stall and got kicked out cos HRH wanted to look. I wasn't much older than Rebecca i dont think and I wasn't impressed neihter! grin

The teeth and washing thing is also Toms theory Trips......'I had a shower last week I dont need another one!!!' His bedroom smells like teenage boy despite being cleaned every day by some idiot who lives in our house hmm Danny was also the same UNTIL he was about 15 (which Tom is now) when he discovered a tarty wench young girl who he liked at school. Then we were all 'bowled over' by shiny white teeth and the subtle stink of Lynx!!

<<waves to Bagpuss>> xxx

bagpuss Tue 09-Oct-12 09:44:38

Thank you trips! Not sure what I've been up to really, life just got in the way of mn for a while. Dh was redundant for part of last year, which was an interesting few months, but is now back at work thankfully. We lost my dad in january too sad so this year has been tough enough already.

Ds1 has started high school so I now also feel very old grin. The dts are just brilliant - I honestly don't remember the other three being this much fun as toddlers!

Shabs, I hope Lew is feeling better soon << passes Shabs a big box of tissues>>.

Sokmonsta, hi to you too, sorry I seem to have overlooked a complete page of posts blush. Not sure how I managed that when there are only two confused.

triplets Tue 09-Oct-12 23:01:12

Yes Baggy............real life sure does get in the way! Another emotional time at Mums, one more visit and I shall be finished............God its so sad, its the little things you find...........seems unreal, knowing that I shall be closing her front door for the last time soon. The house I lived in from the age of 5, a house mainly full of happy happy memories, of dogs, cats, budgies, rabbits, we had them all. Ohsad
Also today someone contacted me via FB to say they were certain Ollie my lost cat was in a garden in Kingsdown, 5 mins by car from here. We went up, walked up and down the streets getting a few strange looks calling his name, nothingsad
Thats my Mum and my cat both lost to me in three months, too sad.
I guess this is "real life"!!

Wish you could find Ollie - so sad to read about your Mum and having to clear her house. My Mum said to me 'Oh my word, you are going to have bloody fun clearing all my rubbish when I pop my clogs sad I have got 38 photograph albums and Im leaving them all to you!!!' Think I will have to get an extension built onto the house. xx

bubby64 Wed 10-Oct-12 00:36:16

Hi. Very late up, M off school today, temperature, sick and dizzy, so I had to stay home with him. Didn't get much done as he wanted to sit and "snuggle", so nice to have my little boy back, even if only for a while because he felt rotten.
Up at the moment as suddenly realised at 11.30pm I hadn't washed Js PE kit which got wet and muddy today, and he needs it again tomorrow! Just waiting for the machine to spin before putting it in the dryer!

Chopstheduck Wed 10-Oct-12 07:29:04

Morning girls.

Hope M and Lewis are feeling better today.

ds1 is struggling atm. Absolutely exhausted, on the verge of collapse. DH said he looked like he was going to pass out when he collected him from Boys Brigade last night. He broke down in floods of tears at school yesterday morning because his bike seized up. I've told him to try to get through today and then will probably keep him off for a few days to recover. School trip on fri anyway, which he doesn't want to go to, and will just be more exhausting.

He is overwhelmed at school, and can't seem to even switch off. Even last night he was still singing and playing with his cuddly toy in bed (stimming because he hasn't had any let up at school) rather than going to sleep.

He has taken on a bit much really, but I don't want to hold him back at all. Though he does really need to recognise his limitations sad

Lew was taken back to emergency doctors last night - his temperature is frightening EVEN about an hour after medicine. GP (obviously) says it is a virus!!Em is staying off with him today. She has received a verbal warning from Bolton Education authority because they say she should have adequate child care hmm Danny works for local council in the finance department and they are living in fear of their jobs folding...bloody country, bloody cutbacks and bloody smarmy faced Cameron.....<<throws darts at picturs of the slimeball>>

Chopstheduck Wed 10-Oct-12 07:53:56

She has received a verbal warning from Bolton Education authority because they say she should have adequate child care shock

seriously?? Has she really had that much time off? What about parental leave etc? Poor Em!

No she hasn't had any time off except her annual leave. She works in a Education authority nursery. In the nursery there is a baby nursery. Parents have to pay for the baby nursery and thats where she works. Its kind of a private day care within a free state run nursery - if that makes any sense. The manager of the private baby nursery is a cow - to be frank!! Emma has to put in her annual leave around Xmas time for the following year.

Last month Em was really not well - ladies problems!! She took two days off and they went crazy at her.

At one time, in our area, if you got a job with either the council or education authority you thought you had it made. Now things have changed so much.

Knowing Em she will lose her temper big time with them. She is quiet but dont push her grin

If she took Lew into nursery during school holidays they would charge her the same rate as the parents - robbing gits - thats why I started having him every day.

Chopstheduck Wed 10-Oct-12 08:59:50

they sound like right wankers sad

I can remember the council being good, exh used to work for them at one point.

bubby64 Wed 10-Oct-12 13:23:43

Shabs - hope Lew is ok, what a shit Emma's boss is! She needs reminding that Emma has the right to parental leave if her child is sick, and any warning could lead to a discrimination tribunal!
Chops - thanks for asking - M back at school today, after being ok overnight, looked a little pale, but temp remained down and not sick/dizzy anymore.
Pissed off with J - after me staying up til 1am doing his bloody PE kit, he decided that he isnt going to rugby club today, as he is too tired!

Chopstheduck Wed 10-Oct-12 14:39:44

<sigh> at J, but at least M is better!

Mine have been a bit like that with cross country, have to keep reminding them if they want to do it, they need to be fully committed. And Ravi never wants to actually practise the violin, but they will take these things on!

Remember that GP had said that Lew, in his opinion, had a heart murmur? Over the last few months two other docs have said the same. He went for his hospital appointment today and they were there ages. They have scanned, prodded, poked and consulted - he has no problems, at all, with his heart. <<massive sigh of relief>>

.....and my best friend Chellester - her son who just turned 11 - was born with a hole in his heart. He has had yearly hospital appointments but they told him 3 years ago it was healing and today was also his day at the same hospital grin The hole in his heart is no more....it has closed (or whatever the hell they call it) and they have discharged him.

Spent most of the afternoon having a few tears - so delighted for both boys - and a tiny, teeny bit envious that Gareths heart problems were so overwhelming, and wishing he had been born nowadays with all the new experts knowledge.

Chopstheduck Wed 10-Oct-12 17:33:36

aww, that is good news, shabs! I remember you saying, because ds1 was also born with a small hole, which cleared up within days.

{{hugs}}

bagpuss Wed 10-Oct-12 18:12:40

Aww that's good news Shabs. We were back at Alder Hey on Monday for dt2s check up - it went really well so that's two and a half years without any intervention since the last time, which is better than I hoped really.

Ds2 has come home from his second ever after school football club. It is such a novelty to have a vaguely sporty child that I'm actually looking forward to washing the muddy kit - feel like a proper mum of boys now grin

Trips, big hugs to you, I hope it isn't going to be too difficult leaving your mums house for the final time xx.

Chops, I hope ds1 is feeling better soon, I always think this time of year is so hard for kids, right up until Christmas really. Darker nights and mornings don't help much either.

triplets Wed 10-Oct-12 23:12:43

Oh my what a day of words..................hope everyone is feeling better. I read your post Bubbs and thought "this is a mothers love, staying up to wait for the washing machine to finish so that your child has a clean kit for the next day". Unbelievable about Emma Shabs shock. My boys were actually impressed with their royal visitor today at school, Princess Anne. Rebecca was totally unimpressed, "what the hell, she` only a Princess"! When I asked what she was wearing, Rebecca said "dunno" and James gave me a full blown description!! Had a nice morning up at school, but both the usual teacher and TA were both off with tonsilitus. I know I am being a wuss, but I am so missing my cat, in fact I am feeling quite depressed about him. Of course I love Molly his sister, but every time the cat flap goes I am disappointed its not him. They are a pair, go out together, come in together, they had brought such happiness into our lives.............now we just sit in silence in the evenings, no more watching their mad frenzies that made us all laugh. I know, I know its just a cat.........but I am mssing him so much. To lose him, and my Mum in three months is just so painful. I have to sit in Mums tomorrow afternoon waiting for the charity house clearance people to come. They won`t give me a definite time, just from 1.30pm. I shall be so glad when its all over. Somebody make me laugh please!

<<pulls up her top and shows off her big saggy Bernies>> That any use Trips? LOL

<<wonders if she should try and set light to a fart>> <<looks around for fire extinguishers and decides against it>>

triplets Wed 10-Oct-12 23:45:04

<<dons gas mask found in Mums coal house>>

Morning girls xx

bagpuss Thu 11-Oct-12 06:57:36

Morning!

Have just realised I forgot to put the bread machine on last night. Should make for some interesting packed lunches today then!

Chopstheduck Thu 11-Oct-12 08:00:33

Morning girls x

I rather like washing the football kit too! I feel a mixture of dead proud to see the school strip on MY washing line and a bit like I am in a Persil advert grin

You are good bubby, I only make homemade at the weekends, gave up doing it during the week, as it is really only nicest eaten on the day. Never got on with bread machines neither - usually came out like a boulder.
Mine have orzo today, with feta, olives and peppers in a sweet chilli sauce. That is Orzo - rice shaped pasta, not fecking barley, take note Nigellissima!

I'm getting itchy feet and drooling over houses. We pay so much in rent to live here, because it is designated catchement for a top school. But the nearby school has really come up and we could afford a 4 or even 5 bedroomed in the area for that. Every autumn we start to feel cramped as the nights draw in and we are all on top of each other. 3 boys in one room, and one reception room for 6 of us is just a bit squashy at times!

triplets Thu 11-Oct-12 09:09:59

Morning all................already cross!Thomas has just phoned to say he is going sailing with school today and he has not got his stuff, not even packed in his room. Can we take it over to Dover, I said no, by the time we find his stuff, drive there they will all be in the water. Now I feel guilty, bloody can`t win atm.

bagpuss Thu 11-Oct-12 09:19:51

Panic over, found some bread rolls at the bottom of the bread bin. I usually do a medium loaf daily, chops, it saves us a fortune and we can get through one a day so it is always fresh when we eat it. I don't think I am skilled enough to make by hand. I'm too impatient and so the machine is pretty foolproof for me. I know what you mean about some bread machine bread though, our old one made really stodgy loaves but the one I have now (Panasonic) is very good. I'm not sure my kids would eat orzo - they like most things but pasta has been off the menu recently <sigh>. It sounds delicious too!

Trips, I like princess Anne, what was she there for?

Shabs, did Emma sort her employers out in the end? That is disgraceful behaviour on their part, although quite common these days. Dh doesn't get any sick pay at all!

Bubby, have your boys started at secondary too? Mine is finding things tough and was up late last night doing homework he had left until the last minute!

Chopstheduck Thu 11-Oct-12 09:28:25

I'm pretty sure ours was panasonic too. Though it was quite old, a freegle jobby. It was fine if I put everything in and turned it on straightaway, but if I put everything in and put it on timer so we had fresh in the morning, it just refused to work nicely. Plus I got fed up with the ingredients list! The recipes for the bread maker had tons of ingredients, milk powder, oil, etc, do you put all that in?

By hand I just chuck in a bag of flour, sugar, salt and yeast, shove it in the oven until it has risen, and then reshape and bake.

Trips, don't feel bad, like you said, they would be in the water by the time you got there, so it is physically impossible.

I've already been up the school twice this morning, Rav forgot his violin AGAIN! And i clipped my wing mirror on the second run <sob>

bagpuss Thu 11-Oct-12 09:42:36

No, ours is just flour, salt, sugar, yeast, water and a knob of butter, tis easy! Our old one used oil and milk powder - horrible bread!

Bah for multiple school trips too. I insisted that dd1 left her glock at school as it is too heavy to carry and I was always having to go back with it when it was forgotten.

Trips, I agree with chops. My favourite phrase when they all forget something/need me to carry something is "I am not superwoman/an octopus!" (delete as applicable). They get it eventually grin

Em has gone in work today - Gawd help them if they start on her. She has a fiery temper which luckily I have only seen once!! Dan is off this morning with him....he rang his boss and told him that he had to have the morning off and would go in at 1pm and work his normal hours....so thats him working till about (at least) 8.30pm. Thank God for flexi time. Dan works for local council in debt recovery - they are not encouraged to join the Union and when the national strike was on he had to 'run the gauntlet' of the Trades Unions who were picketing outside the town hall. Worse thing is that he agrees fully with their arguments......ahhhh I dont know, working for local government and education used to be one of those 'jobs for life' things - certainly not now! <<wanders off muttering to herself>>

Chopstheduck Thu 11-Oct-12 09:54:16

I googled glock and it came up with this EEK! <runs away>

I'm always telling mine that I am not an octopus, or their slave. Doesn't seem to sink in though. I wouldn't have run the violin in again if I hadn't paid £96 for the terms lessons.

I wonder if all councils are as bad, shabs sad

Salford and Bolton council have had their funding cut dramatically. Salford especially usually get 'X' amount for the budget....in order to employ temp. staff etc. This year they got about a tenth of their normal budget and the threat of redundancies. Have told Dan that his department will be the last to feel the cuts, as they are debt recovery. He disagreed with me totally and said that everybody is petrified that they will lose their jobs.

bagpuss Thu 11-Oct-12 10:50:42

Glockenspiel grin. I was being a lazy typist blush.

Shabs that sucks sad. Dh says he has seen far too many ex colleagues out of work recently for comfort. I guess he was lucky to have found a new job at all, but there is always that doubt in the back of his mind that it will happen again to him.

bubby64 Thu 11-Oct-12 11:12:01

Trips - Not mothers love , but personal pride! He can go to school smelling like a skunk because he has avoided a shower yet again, but at least the kit looks/smells clean! and yes- no good you running over there with his kit, it would have been a waste of time/petrol. Hope all else has gone okthanks
Shabs What a relief for you all<<phew>> about parents taking time off , I told DH he has to go yesterday to sort out a problem at school, as I couldnt keep taking time off/coming in late his boss wasnt pleased, and said "thats the wifes job, not the fathers!", DH told him that parenting was a partnership, and only poor fathers left it all to the wife! Boss let him go grin
Hi Bagpuss, yes, they started in September, and, TBH we've had a bit of a bumpy road these past weeks, but, hopefully, things will settle now.
I am already fed up with nagging them about homework, packing bag for next day, and general niggles, especially since the past 4 weeks I have worked full time in one so I have put full time in one job or the other, and they are supposed to get home and start homework. Either DH or I get there at about 5.15pm. I have now put full parental blocks on Sky and computer, except for their school website for homework, and DH takes the xbox cable with him, so they have less excuses to sit around and leave it til later! Oh, and at least I only have to remember J's guitar, as M is learning drums, and I'm not carting a whole drumkit anywhere!
Chops I make bread most days too, dont used the timer- it sucked, but always use the fastbake- large loaf done in under 2hrs!

Chopstheduck Thu 11-Oct-12 11:39:07

I am sooo excited. Got a phone call and one of the dts is going to be a mascot for Arsenal. He will be on the telly and everything! He is going to be over the moon when I tell him grin

Only thing is the prize should be for dt1 (I tend to alternate entering the kids names into comps) but he may be half of a cm over the height limit! I gonna have to measure him tonight, and make a decision, otherwise dt2 may have to take his place. One twin is going to be thrilled in either case!

triplets Thu 11-Oct-12 23:31:44

<<Trips hides under apron, she has failed...........how could she feed her children Mothers Pride when other Mums bake their own...........wonders if homemade pancakes count>>

Chopster, could you give us some tips on this comping malarky, I don`t ask for much..............just a family holiday for 1(me), to swim with the sharks for dk, and a free months community work for dc`s.......and a years supply of Blue Diamond Smokehouse Almonds...........oh and a luxury villa in Faliraki for a friend.....my needs are fewgrin

Morning girls xx

No I have no idea why the hell I am up so early either hmm

Chopstheduck Fri 12-Oct-12 07:45:55

Morning girls x

Trips, it takes HOURS! Not even won much lately, and not a nut in sight!

Measured Rav last night, he is 127cms in socks so should be fine. He is so excited!

bagpuss Fri 12-Oct-12 20:42:27

Evening all! Happy Friday <<raises glass of red>>

Fantastic stuff chops! I'm not surprised he is excited!

Bubby, why didn't I think of that before - hide the Xbox cable, genius! Ds1 is minecraft addicted hmm. It causes many rows in this house. He is 12 tomorrow! Totally not prepared for his birthday - doesn't want anything in particular and doesnt want to do anything either, so just like any other day!

bubby64 Fri 12-Oct-12 22:32:46

Chops - wonderful for Rav!
bagpuss Bloody Minecraft!!!! They have it on Xbox, and want it downloaded onto our main computer as well!! I have said they can't have it on my laptop as it would take up too much space. Mine are 12 in December- I have hired the local pool for an hour, at £50, they can have up to 38 guests, then just giving a drink and crisps after - sorted!grin I wish they didnt want anything for their birthday, as their wishes are very expensive - an electric guitar and a drumkit(electronic is needed as I can't stand noise of conventional kit), both on loan at the moment from school, but they want (and need) their own, oh, and a laptop each as well! They must think these things will just "materialise" as they complain about me working the overtime needed to pay for the bloody thingsconfused
J is becoming a argumentative, obstinate little shit child, and M not far behind, but M's temper tantrums have to be seen to be believed! Kevin years have well and truly kicked in over here sad
Trips - only use breadmaker as it saves ££ each month with the amount of bread they seem to get through, also, I can add wholemeal flour to make a 50/50 type loaf at half the price of shop bought ones - they wont eat brown bread, so this is a compromisehmm

triplets Sat 13-Oct-12 01:01:08

<<crawls into bed, mutters..........."too old, too old for this game.....book club
supper here, cooked for my lot then for another 8............leftovers anybody?>>

Chopstheduck Sat 13-Oct-12 06:44:14

Morning girls.

It's far too early to be up <sob> DH is snoring his head off and I've given up. I'm supposed to be going out 2n too, got tickets to a London Film Festival event at Leicester Square. I doubt that will be happening now.

Happy birthday to the little Bubster! xx

I've kinda drilled it into mine that we are not rich and expensive presents are out of the question. I scrimp on everything, and they are pretty used to it, and they are quite good at saving up for things themselves. They know they will only get expensive stuff, if it's in a massive sale, or I win it!

But they still moan about me comping to get the nice things! I actually get up early during the holidays to get it over and done with at the crack of dawn, mostly before they get up. It's paid for three holidays, most of christmas, birthdays, endless days out, but they still moan at me!

It def gets harder as they get older, dd is 12, and doesn't have a clue what she wants for Xmas.

Morning girls xx

triplets Sat 13-Oct-12 08:59:37

Morning Chops as you are the only one up, yes far too early for a Sat! Its grey and miserable here, I feel tired after last night, got up to wake James as he has a band event, only to be told he doesn`t have to be there until 11.30am! The boys bedroom when I went in was the worst I have ever seen it, could hardly get thru the door, guess what they will be doing before they get their pocket money?

triplets Sat 13-Oct-12 09:00:16

oh apologies Shabs....................good morning smile

Chopstheduck Sat 13-Oct-12 09:17:42

I made a huge pile last night from their bedroom, they have to put it away before breakfast. Jack and shay are doing that, rav is going to clean out the rabbits. For now it is quiet, but I am waiting for the screams to start!

Jack is off for his first ever sleepover today! Prob not the best idea since he been absolutely knackered this week, but he has been looking forward to it for ages. Then tomorrow they have parade.

triplets Sat 13-Oct-12 12:47:54

What are the boys in Chops? I think all these orgainzed things are so good for them. James and his band are marching the Mayor to a civic reception plus church service, he won`t be home until around 3pm, thats a chunk of his Sat gone, but he love it. Becca has gone off to Canterbury with a friend, and Thomas is on the x-box.......................as usual. I have just been having a clear out of their drawers, mangled up adaptors and headphones, most seem to be not needed or not working. Been looking for the plug that goes with James`s old cd player, plus two plugs from digital photo frames, no sign of those of course! The sun has just come out, would like to go out somewhere nice.................but no money and too tired!

bubby64 Sat 13-Oct-12 13:16:43

Hi all,Chops DH usually complains of my snoring, I take pain killers which knock me out, so dont care grin I was woken at 06.05 by on call phone, just sat and read in bed after that.
Morning Shabs
Trips it was grey here, but now sun has come out. Huge pile of washing to get through as havent had time to do much over the week, plus got to go on a big food shop. On Call again this weekend, but, hopefully, as I was in the office yesterday I have forstalled a lot of the problems before they got to be urgent.
Boys did their rooms last weekend, and, at the moment, they are fairly clear, I know it wont last long though.
Boys went to a golf range with Young Farmers last night- J upset as he said "he sucks at golf", he wants to be good at everything sporty, but this was the 1st time he has tried it! M just said it was "fun" abd wasnt really bothered if he was good or not. They have a formal Ball coming up in November yikes! what do I dress them in?? Girls are easy - a party/evening dress, but do we have to go as far as hiring suits, or can I just send them in decent shirts, ties ans school black trousers at their age, thoughts anyone?
Bagpuss - happy birthday to bagpuss junior.

Chopstheduck Sat 13-Oct-12 14:21:58

I'd go for shirts and trousers and maybe optional ties. I think boys at that age don't like to make half the effort tht girls do. Dd insists on full prom dress for ANY occasion. They had a Halloween ball yesterday, she wore and purple and black party frock, and back combed hair and makeup to look like a zombie. She looked rather good actually! On the other hand, there were boys there in jeans and even one in a onsie!! grin

Trips, Rheannon and Jack do girls/boys brigade. They do parade once a month. Jack is hoping to join the band part when he is eligible at Easter and learn the bass drum. The boys do scouts instead but can't do the parades unfortunately, dh doesn't really want them going to church services. There isn't actually a lot around here tbh. Dd wanted to join the air corps but it closed down sad

Sokmonsta Sat 13-Oct-12 21:38:12

Good grief you guys move fast lol. Will catch up properly later. Currently offloading a shed load of pictures onto bt vault to clear laptop for inlaws.

Hope everyone with poorly bubbas is now through the worst. I can sympathise with crappy work. Mine are aiming at constructive dismissal. I'm not going back but not giving them the satisfaction of just rolling over this time grin

Trips - you can borrow dh if you like. We have an agreement. I do babies and small people. He manages their teens. We both have experience in those areas so defer to greater knowledge. I'm dreading 2 teenage girls and two teenage boys.

House is slightly less of a tip. Washing basket is no longer overflowing and (shhhhhh) nearly empty

Have to admit that once again, children were elsewhere. Nana and grandad had the bigs and twins were at nanny and Grandad's last night. Dh arranged so I could get some much needed respite. We've had a lumpy week which finished in a trip to gp, moderate to severe pnd and a lovely box of pills. Am hoping to feel human sometime soon.

triplets Sat 13-Oct-12 22:21:37

Welcome back sox, poor you...........take every advantage of getting some rest. Its lovely to have you join us, we are very friendly, funny and life savers...........I don`t know what I`d do without my mates on here................talking of which.....Rubester, where the hell are you?? Also bout time FG put in an appearance, does she not realize how much we miss her??

triplets Sat 13-Oct-12 22:23:11

Can I just ask, if you could afford it would you go away for Christmas and if so where?

Trips - IF I could go away for Xmas if would be the Canary Islands - especially Teneriffe xx

Chopstheduck Sun 14-Oct-12 07:41:45

Morning girls x

aww, Sokmonsta, hope the pills kick in soon and you start feel more like yourself again. I had pnd with my first, it is horrid.

Hell, yeah, trips! We flew on Xmas day in 2009 I think it was. Went to Florida, and came back with a sun tan. Was lovely too, all the parks were all christmassy. I'm not sure where I would go if I had the choice. Somewhere alpine would be tempting, maybe Switzerland, or Austria. Or if I wanted sun, maybe Dubai?
We just did Xmas day a few days early that year (even rigged the calendars), and the kids got Florida tickets in their stockings. I think as the kids get older, and we don't really have to do the whole Father Christmas thing, it would get increasingly tempting to go away more!

Morning girls xx

Sok - my lovely DIL had severe PND for about 10 months. It was only her AD that 'kept her going.' Sadly, very sadly, it has totally put her off having any more children. She was so poorly. I hope you soon start to feel better xx

triplets Sun 14-Oct-12 22:56:23

Good evening girls............my day has been 50/50.
Boys have been great.
Dk and dd not so.
and no sign of my darling Ollie boy :-(
and I could just eat some choccy nuts and I haven`t got any
and thats about it really.
Night night xx

Chopstheduck Sun 14-Oct-12 23:05:04

Aww trips, you can share my valor choccie almond bar if u like!

It's a late footy game tonight (American footy) so I've just finished dinner. Calimari with chilli folllowed Venison steak with sherry mushroom sauce and homemade garlic and parsley chips. Yum! <Insert stuffed emotion>

I gonna be soooo sleepy 2n. This bottle of my fav Spanish white sitting here won't help neither! <tips up glasses>

Chopstheduck Sun 14-Oct-12 23:05:50

Tips?? tops!

triplets Sun 14-Oct-12 23:21:49

Tips is probably right!!
Can I have the recipe for your chips, sounds divine!
Now I must go to sleep!

Morning girls xx

Chopstheduck Mon 15-Oct-12 07:53:34

Morning girls x <yawn>

I can't wait til school run time. Jack is off his head and insisting shay is a jammy donut and trying to eat him. I suppose it's an improvement on the tears, but we've already had one accident on the stairs! <looks up number for respite care>

Garlic Chips

Peel and thickly chip potatoes, leave to soak in a bowl of cold water with a squeeze of lemon juice for a couple of hours.

Heat oil til very hot, dry chips until potato is soft and just about cooked. Remove from oil, let oil come back up to heat, then fry for a second time until crisp and nicely golden.

Finely chop 2-3 cloves of garlic. Melt decent butter (I use Isigny St Mére, would be horrid with anchor) in a small pan, add garlic, fry over medium/low for couple of minutes til garlic aromatic. Add tbsp dried parsely (dried sticks better).

Pour butter into a warmed bowl, and toss chips in it, until chips well coated in garlic.

Not one for diets!

Chopstheduck Mon 15-Oct-12 07:54:57

Oh and add sea salt and pepper when tossing. I always use unsalted butter.

bubby64 Mon 15-Oct-12 12:08:20

Morning Girlies - I need yet more advice here. Had a HUGE row with J over him "finding" or "borrowing" money, and then keeping it. I gave him £3 on friday for school dinner, and M a £10 note as I had no change, and asked M to give back the £7 change. J then told M he had "forgotten" his money (I know he hadnt, as I saw him put it in his bag as he went out the door) and could he have the change to get himself a lunch. When I asked for change back, and M said J had got what was left of it, J denied all knowledge. They were also given a £10 note on Friday evening, again as I hadn't change (needed 2.50 each), and I hadn't had the change back from that either, J said he spent all the extra on addittional baskets of golf balls (£7.50 = 150 golf balls in less than 1hr30mins, which would have to be hit at a rate of 1 ball every 50 seconds-I dont think so!) totalling it up, J has had an extra £12 from me that he shouldnt have had in the past day, and I found out that morning he had been spending quite a lot in the village shop, buying sweets/drinnks/snacks, and he also hd some in his wallet. He said he had 'saved up'hmm or 'won' on betting on dares at school.hmmhmm.
I know he had already spent his pocket money, so I went balistic, as he has already been told about "finding" money around the house (DH has a habit of emptying out his pockets in the bathroom/bedroom and leaving the change on the side), and said this is really stealing, as he knows who the money belongs too. I have stopped xbox use again, as well as stopping pocket money, but DH said stopping that will only encorage him to steal more!
any thoughts on this girls?

triplets Mon 15-Oct-12 15:26:15

Oh Bubby a tricky one,I think though I would be stopping pocket money, so that any further spending would be proof! I am having a sort of similar problem with Rebecca. They all get £5 a week pocket money. James hardly ever spends his so atm he has £40. Thomas tends to spend his thoughout the week. Rebecca goes out every w/end with the girls, often via trains, so her p/m goes no where an she asks for more. Last w/end she had an extra £5 to go to Canterbury, then she wangled a £2.20 comic, then last night she was asked to the cinema with friends and needed another £7.50p! The boys are starting to kick up and I can`t afford it. So have told her she is grounded this w/end, no trips out etc, also suggested she could do a few jobs to pay me back................that didn`t go down at all well! I know a £5 isn`t much these days, my Mum used to give them extra each week, sadly she has gone sad

Chopstheduck Tue 16-Oct-12 06:38:44

Morning girls x

I'd be stopping any money too, Bubby. It sounds like he is just being a bit greedy, something I could imagine dd doing! I keep her money in a bank account and she has to ask before going to the shop or she would waste all her money on sweets and things. I'd give the money to M when they need money together for a bit, and just ban J from all cash handling for a bit.

When I used to have to give mine cash for school dinners, I kept an ice cream container where I would throw in all my change to keep it tiding over for the £2s here and there, so I could give them the right money. I got into the habit of geting cash out, and using notes when paying for stuff to keep the change topped up.

Trips, if dd doesn't help around the house, no money, simples! Yesterday she hoovered upstairs, emptied the dishwasher and put a basket of laundry away. I just wish she would put as much effort into her school work and bedroom!

We don't really do regular chores, but everyone mucks in. It's strange, they will all happily hoover, or dust, do laundry related jobs, gardening or cook. They moan a little about the dishwasher, but they cannot tidy their room with without WWIII and it always seems to be me that ends up cleaning out THEIR rabbits!

Chopstheduck Tue 16-Oct-12 06:41:00

I say THEIR rabbits, they should be MY rabbits now. I look after them. And they've got sooo tame now! They run around the garden all day, and I can't step outside the door without tripping over three balls of fluff. When I try to hang out washing, they climb on the basket, and climb my legs. They nose into everything I do out there! grin

Morning girls xx

Tom doesn't get set pocket money. He just robs me blind for 'stuff he NEEDS' - anything to do with PS3. Drives me round the piggin' bend - I have started saying 'Nope....cant afford it...Xmas is coming up!!'

He does very little around the house. Tidied his room on Sunday shock

Might I add....he moved 'stuff' around in his room.....the 'massive job' did not include hoovering, polishing or putting rubbish in the bin!!! He also 'tidied' his room to put off doing homework hmm

Chopstheduck Tue 16-Oct-12 07:24:12

I made a big pile of stuff laying around in the boys room Friday evening. Should have taken maybe an hour tops to clean up? That took them til lunchtime. Then by Sunday it looked like a bomb had hit it again. Nobody wanted to take responsibility or clear it up, so cue me having a screaming fit at them, and banning them from video games for two days. <sigh>

I've even posted pics of dd's room onto her facebook page in an attempt to embarrass her into tidying it up, with absolutely no effect!

bagpuss Tue 16-Oct-12 08:19:07

Morning! Thanks for ds1s birthday wishes, he had a good day but so unlike any other birthday before - no presents, no birthday outing! He does have an impressive stash of cash now though, and it is burning a hole in his pocket!

Bubby, I'm afraid I don't have much advice - ours all get a pound each week from the ILs and ds1 gets three but we rarely give them money ourselves. They do get money for trips and quite often I give the older two money from my purse if they are going to the shops with their friends. Ds1s school have a cashless system for dinners so we just top up online and when it's gone it's gone! Show him my post if you like, I bet he would feel quite rich compared to my 12 year old wink. If it was me I would probably stop pocket money too for a while.

Dd1 and ds2 are away on a school trip so I don't even have to do the school run today! The novelty still hasn't worn off although I do not really know what I am supposed to do with myself! I have, since yesterday, caught up on the washing and changed all their beds and given the rooms a quick tidy. I suppose I should take the opportunity to vacuum while I can still see the carpet grin.

bubby64 Tue 16-Oct-12 15:38:11

J is home sick today, and have had a serious talk, with no-one else present. He has admitted taking the money and has promised not to do it again, He got tearful and embarrased, and has given me back £6 that he had left and hidden away. He has also agreed a chore list again, we used to have one, but it seems to have gone by the wayside lately,(dont know how long this will last, but I can but try!). DH and I have also talked about the pocket money situation, and have agreed to give them a set amount of £5 a week, as, up to now, it has been on an "as you need it" basis, which could often add up to more than we realise.I have also agreed to £3 for school dinners twice a week, and packed lunches the rest of the time he has packed lunch with no extra money for snacks etc. If he wants those, he will have to use the pocket money. bagpuss I wish they would have the cashless system here, it would make things so much easier!

triplets Tue 16-Oct-12 23:07:23

Well done Bubbs that sounds very fair to me. Only one of mine has school dinner, he has £3 a day, just glad the other two don`t want it as I just couldn`t afford it! Just feel at my age that I have been doing packed lunches forever! Did anyone watch the Great British Bake Off final tonight? I was very surprised at the winner, but glad for him out of the three, feel bereft now its finished:-(
Sleep tight xx

Chopstheduck Wed 17-Oct-12 06:35:09

Morning girls x

Glad you had a good chat, bubby.

Morning girls xx

bagpuss Wed 17-Oct-12 06:55:04

Morning Shabs xx.

bubby64 Wed 17-Oct-12 08:26:43

Morning Girlies - happy birthday to me, happy birthday to me <<warbles quietly to herself as males in household seem oblivious to it >>.
Got J off sick again, M just walked down road to catch bus in wind and pouring rain, heating on,brew in hand.
Had some good news yesterday-insurance paying out full value, the Pont will be restored to life again!!
Also managed to win J's birthday pressie on eBay, electric guitar with amp, strap, stand and carry bag for £28. Result!! Just got M's drum kit to get now, and still 6weeks to get it, hooray!

rubyrubyruby Wed 17-Oct-12 08:31:24

Happy Birthday Bubby thanks

Good news about the car!

Sorry to all I've been AWOL - feel like I'm on a treadmill and must keep running or I will fall off!

Catch up soon xxxxx or 'laters' as DCs would say grin

Happy Birthday Bubby!!

Oh yes I know that 'treadmill' Rubester - its not a great place.

Lew got a glowing report at his first parents night smile

Tom has his first 'advanced Maths' GCSE paper today....he grunted at me when I woke him up, grunted at me when he went through the front door - then shouted back 'Love you Mam' half way up the street grin

bagpuss Wed 17-Oct-12 09:20:21

Happy birthday Bubby! thanks and wine for you. Glad you managed to sort things out with J. What a result with the birthday pressie too!

Hey Ruby! Long time no see, hope you and yours are all ok.

Apologies, chops, I didn't see your post before on account of the fact that I was up so early that I couldn't actually see all the posts through my bleary eyes. I'm on about my fifth coffee already.

I'm in washing Hell today after realising that I'd have to clear the backlog before ds2 gets home this evening with a suitcase full of muddy stuff. Dd1 not home until Friday thankfully!

Shabs, GCSEs already? How time flies!

Chopstheduck Wed 17-Oct-12 09:25:44

Happy Birthday bubby! thankswine
Great news about the pont!

Hope u ok ruby x

I don't even want to look at my laundry basket.

Chopstheduck Wed 17-Oct-12 09:26:01

and well done Lew, and good luck Tom!

Bagpuss - yes he leaves borstal his 'lovely' High school next Easter!!!! He did his Maths GCSE a year ago when he was in year 10 - the school 'fast track' some of the kids. He managed to get a B and thought that he would get away with having to do another GCSE Maths paper LOL...Oh no, his teacher, in her wisdom, has started them on Advanced Maths course <<snigger>> I cant understand one single question on the papers!!

triplets Wed 17-Oct-12 12:34:29

Happy Birthday Bubbs smilesmilesmilesmilesmilesmile
My James is doing a gcse english paper today, yes where dooes the time go to? Just home from school myself, it had to chuck it down the two minutes it took me to the bus stop!

Well done James....hope it goes well for him Trips xxx

<<sigh>> Its 30 degrees (in new money) in Falibleedinraki right now!!!! Many, many thanks to Thomas & Yannis at Thomas Bar....I needed to know your great news....<<kicks the wall very hard>>

bagpuss Wed 17-Oct-12 18:18:49

Ds2 is home - machine is on again!

Shabs and trips, I hope your respective boys do well today. Ds1 (also a James!) is in the top sets for Maths and English and was quite upset to not be on the g&t register because his primary didn't have one! I hope he manages to do well at Maths because he really enjoys it.

Shabs, they may have the weather over there, but they also have no money and no healthcare, I know where I'd rather be!

Dont believe everything you read in the papers or watch on the TV about Greece. Yes in mainland Greece things are very, very tough but Rhodes is a 14 hour ferry ride from Athens. The islands are not suffering as much as the mainland. The family who own the hotel we go to say that there only problem is that many of the 'returners' to the hotel who are British cannot afford to go there this year.

The hotel closes this weekend for the Winter. As the last person leaves the extended family (and there are 100's of them) all come to the hotel and they clean all the rooms, do any repairs and improvements. Then the entire family move around each others businesses and farms and help out there. That is the way of the Greek people we know. They all look after each other and help each other.

Takis' only part that was making him angry was their slow (if ever) return to the Drachma. He also says that the Greeks should never pay back Germany. I got a full history lesson from him!! The Germans stripped Greece of all their money, gold reserves and precious artifacts in the second World War. That part of our conversation had him the most angry!!

Rhodes has been financially 'battered' but their view on this is 'United we stand, divided we fall.' They will survive - I know they will.

OMG THAT WAS A VERY SERIOUS POST FOR ME!!! LOL

bubby64 Wed 17-Oct-12 22:57:10

Thanks for all the good wishes, family didn't forget, just left it til later in the day as such an early start this morning.
Trips and Shabs, hope It went well today for Tom and James.
Bagpiss I am working my way through our washing pile, and Mike is in top set for math and English too, much to myJames disgust!
Shabs - well done to Lew, and i totally agree with Takis's view on Germany, even though I work for a German firm, I don't always agree with the way they do things.

bubby64 Wed 17-Oct-12 22:59:03

Oh God, just read back my post! blush, So sorry bagpuss, bloody iPod

triplets Wed 17-Oct-12 23:11:44

For f ing f`s sake, already in a bad mood, a really bad mood just typed a message to ou all which I started at 10.35pm and its just bloody disappeared and I am so fed up I can`t do it all again. Will tell you tomorrow, its about school ad dk!!!!

I need nuts and a Tio...............

triplets Wed 17-Oct-12 23:13:19

and I can spell unlike dk, its this bloody machine......

triplets Wed 17-Oct-12 23:14:22

bloody bloody bloody bloody bloody.............feel better for thatgrin

<<passes Trips a pint of White Lightning cider and a fag>>

LMFWAO @ Bagpiss - sorry, but it appealed to my weird sense of humour.

<<gives the v sign to Trips DK without knowing the story>>

triplets Thu 18-Oct-12 00:12:26

<<amazes herself she can swig and inhale at the same time.......multi tasking>>

Morning girls xx

Chopstheduck Thu 18-Oct-12 06:40:37

<snigger> @ 'bagpiss'!

Morning girls x

Good luck to James, hope the paper went well trips!

Shabs, dh takes great delight in having various holiday locations we have (or he has) been too on his ipad weather app and showing me how it is hotter in every single one of them on a regular basis! Apparently it was 34C in LA yest - I don't want to know!!!

I'm really not sleeping well atm. jack has been struggling a bit this year, and his symptoms have gone really bad again after a long break when he has been really good. The school do a residential next May and there is a lot of pressure on every child to attend - the whole summer topic curriculum is based around it.

Jack went on the school residential in year 4 after lots of promises about how they were going to support him, and came back knackered because he didn't get any rest and they put him in a room with 3 other children, one of whom also has asd and kept them up all night. I had doubts about it anyway, but we were sort of coerced into it.

So he doesn't want to go on this one, he best (and only) friend also doesnt want to go, and I'm not going to make him. So now I will have his teacher and the HT on my back and possibly his trying to force the issue. sad

Jack is currently undergoing connors 3 testing for adhd. I did the forms earlier this week. I don't think J does have adhd at all, though he did score quite highly. But Shay scored VERY highly when I ran him through it. I've requested assessment for him now. The school really struggled with him through year 2 and he is constantly getting in trouble again this year. He is extremely lively, cocky, crap with other children, often aggressive, OCD type tendencies, unpredictable and very bright. Sounds charming, but he is brilliant with adults, and great fun. Just doesn't cope very well around other children, at home he usually hangs out with us rather than the other kids. The problem is that this school is totally shit with sn, and I now worried I have totally picked the wrong school for him.

bagpuss Thu 18-Oct-12 07:26:37

Morning!

Shabs, just before I posted that last night I did wonder whether I'd got the wrong end of the stick. Dh always lectures me about foreign travel during the current climate (not that we could ever afford it, but still), although I know plenty of people who've been to Greece and Spain with no problems, he worries I suppose.

Lol @ bagpiss grin. I've been called many things...

((((trips)))) <passes choccy nuts>

Chops, that's a lot of pressure for you as a parent. Our school do a residential in y3,4,5 and 6 which is expensive and almost everyone goes. I'm getting really fed up with is, particularly as we've had two children go each year for the last four years. That's a lot of money - we haven't had a family holiday since 2007 sad. That aside I think it can be good for kids to go although I noticed a few children with sn hadn't gone this year which I think is poor on the schools part as they maintain they want the trip to be inclusive!

I think a lot of primarys can appear bad with sn. Ours doesn't support g&t at all, but loves to point out the shortcomings of some children. I still haven't totally forgiven them for trying to put ds2 on their sn register because he couldn't say the letter l when he spoke (he was 4 at the time). Funnily enough he can speak perfectly well now!

Must go and wake ds2 who still hasn't surfaced, most unlike him!

Chopstheduck Thu 18-Oct-12 07:37:18

Our primary just has a crap senco that doesn't recognise sensory processing issues at all. sad

i do agree it is good for them to go, but this will be his third year of camping with the BB so he gets the socialisation bit from that. Plus its £50 cheaper for 7 nights as opposed to the schools 4 and they give Jack a private room and rest breaks when he needs them.

Not supporting G&T is bad too. I can remember how much support some G&T children needed when I helped out in a class for sn for a year - it equalled the children with sn. . sad I remember this adorable little lad who was G&T for maths, absolutely brilliant. But his literacy wasn't in the same league, so I'd sit and help him read the maths text and he would whizz through the answers. Must be over 12 years ago but he still sticks in my head, I think it was the way he was so appreciative of the help and clearly loved being able to actually access the work.

Bagpuss - not got the wrong end of the stick totally. Athens and mainland Greece seem to be in the deepest poo. I suppose that it 'filters down' IYKWIM - there were several bars closed in Faliraki that have been there many years. My Mum said I wasn't allowed to go because they are rioting in Greece and she didn't want me getting hurt grin I will be 56 in a few weeks time!!!

Chops parts of your description (in fact several parts) of how Shay is sound very, very like my Tom.

bubby64 Thu 18-Oct-12 12:40:26

<<waving a frantic hi/goodbye to Ruby as she dissapears into the distance..>>
Trips - DK certainly seems to be living up to his name, whatever he has done, as he has obviously upset you big time!<<rustles up yet more choccy nuts and a decent bottle of Merlot>>
Bagpus - sorry again for the name, blushblush - we made it clear to both the school and our two very early on that they would not be doing all residential trips, as we just could not afford it, luckily, there were 3 other sets of twins in their primary class, and only one set went to everything, so my 2 were not alone.
ChopsWe were also lucky that the school were supportive in all senco needs, both educational and physical, and at both ends of the scale, it does make a huge difference! I hope you get both DS sorted out soon, and if DS doesnt want to go on the trip, stick to your guns...he will get nothing out of it if he is not enjoying it.

bagpuss Thu 18-Oct-12 13:51:55

Chops, it is sad that the school can't support your ds as well as BB can, but nice that there is a way he gets to experience all the same things his peers do. I am baffled as to why our primary don't support g&t too. In fact given that they want such good sats results from y6 you would think that they would actively try to push it for those that need it. Mind you, we are still waiting for ds1s sats results and he took them in june hmm.

Shabs, lol @ your mum! But at least she cares!

Bubby, ds1 has also been warned not to expect any more large trips in secondary. He went on this years' one which was two days at £110 but unless there is an educational need for skiing in Austria, he won't be going on that or anything else I don't see as essential.

Having a nice day here, did some baking earlier and now dts are playing with duplo while I try to work out what I can get for stocking fillers for Christmas this year. I am stuck on ds1 and dh says that every idea I have had so far is not cool enough confused. So, wise ones, what should go in the stocking of a 12 year old boy?

Chopstheduck Thu 18-Oct-12 14:33:36

Isn't it just tempting sometimes to home educate?! grin

I don't think we will be doing any of the senior school ones, they run into hundreds of £s. For the cost of some of those, we could ALL have a holiday, and the kids would prefer that too.

DD last year wanted I think around £400 to go to Paris, we had gone twice already that year, and the second time we paid less than that for us all to get there and cover accommodation. Not a chance!

Hmm, stockings. I'm def going to get Jack some new shin pads, I might get him an Angry Birds USB stick (handy for taking stuff to mates, or school work), sweets, other than that pretty clueless really. Prob harlequins or chelsea related little bits! Jack loves cuddly toys too, prob get him a quins beanie bear, not sure most 12 year old boys are into cuddlies though!

<<looks around nervously and whispers>> Tom has a tiny beanie kind of puppy dog and a grey (soft toy) elephant. When I move them and put them in a drawer they come right back out again. It makes me snigger when I go in his room in the morning....the room stinks of boy, is generally messy and there he lies with a soft toy under each arm!!

triplets Thu 18-Oct-12 22:59:14

Right...............haven`t really got the energy to do this but here goes.
School.................bloody bloody school.
In Deal we have a choice of two secondary schools.
For the last few years rumours have been going around about them merging.
Then we get dropped a bomb shell, a proposal has been set for it to go ahead.
The other school has Academy status, so is independant of our local Kent County Council, a diff ball game altogether.
They called a meeting last night with the governors etc and it was plain, our school will close, our teachers will lose their jobs, our students will all move to the new school which is to be built on the other school site.
No one wants this from our side of the fence.
It will mean a huge new super school for our town, no choice for parents.
They call it a merger, it is take over.
It will all start from Sept 2013.
Mine are yr 10, just coming up to gcse`s, infact James sat a paper y/day.
The teachers are stressed, and what is going to happen?
Well they are not going to sty on a sinking ship, they will get out to find jobs and our kids will be left with supply teachers at a crucial time.
The meeting was very emotional and heated.
I asked dk to come with me, he has never ever been inside the school since the nightwe went to look round it, over 3 years ago.
He instead had a hot bath and several gins.
I fed 4 kids, and walked up to school at 7pm.
Left just gone 10pm, it was pouring and I walked the long way round instead of the short cut as it was very dark.
Got home at 10.20pm.
All kids still up, dk in the kitchen just clearing up.
He said Iwas late...........where had I been..........."talking"?
I said it was a pity he couldn`t make the effort to be with me for support, and I was wet and had to walk the long way home.
He said "why didn`t you find someone to walk with".
Because they all had cars and I didn`t.
He then went to throw away some left over pizza.
I said don`t I am hungry.
He said........"why didn`t you have something before you went"?
"BECAUSE I WAS COOKING AND FEEDING 4 KIDS AND YOUR SUPPER AND I RAN OUT OF TIME"

Exit to my bed.

Today we get a call of a firm sighting of Ollie, my beautiful cat. At 8.30am I am running to the house has was seen, they were sure it was him. Nothing.
At 5pm I get another call from another house, they have him in their kitchen, it matches our desription. My heart is pounding, I send dk and James with the cat basket, it comes back empty, it was not him sad

The also today I got 4 text messages from school urging us to make sure our children stay away from the "other" school meeting which was tonight. The local paper headlines today was "school to close". The kids had been told by parents what was said at the meeting last night. So today in school they started a riot!! Mainly started by girls in yr 10 inc Rebecca bloody Peace!!! So she comes home from school with a girl I have never seen before, the boys told me this girl had hit a boy last week and knocked two teeth out! They went upstairs, came down and said they were going out to meet up with other friends and were going to stage a silent protest meeting at the other school. She was grounded, well and truly grounded.

Its been a lovely day all in all...................

Chopstheduck Fri 19-Oct-12 06:18:18

Oh trips {{{hugs n choocie nuts}}}

<kicks DK with long legs equal to trips'> I'd be tempted to hit him over the head with that bloody gin bottle!

The whole school situation sounds absurd, surely it would make more sense to have a transitionary period where both schools run and only intake new year 7s into the merged school? It all sounds scarily sudden.

Had to smile at the irony of a little "Peace' involved in a riot! wink Do you think though, she really believes in the cause? If so, I would go easy on her for standing up for what she believes in. Otherwise, if it was just to be a trouble maker, I would come down like a ton of bricks.

I have a little good news, the school accepted my decision and that it was 'non-negotiable' for J not to attend the school trip! I really was geared up for a fight, previous times I've been dragged up for endless meetings. J came home a different child, like a huge weight has been lifted off his shoulders and beaming ear to ear! grin

Morning girls xx

Oh Trips - that is utter crap poo. Thats exactly the kind of thing that my DK would do as well. He last came up to Toms school in year 7 for his first parents evening.....Tom leaves next Easter!!! I hate it how I am always the one who sorts things out. Thats with just one child - I dont know how you manage with 'sorting things out' with 3.

I swear that if my DK says just one more time....'Do you know where......is?, Where have YOU put my.......etc etc I WILL kill him!!

I hope today is a better day xxx

triplets Sat 20-Oct-12 00:54:10

Evening............Chops very pleased to hear your news re J, nice not to have to battle for everything! A quieter day today except local press really blasting out the message of closure, its the talk of the town and a huge worry. I sulked tonight and would not have supper, only two pomegranitesgrin I felt very tired, cooked early for the kids as its ATC night, then asked dk if w could have fish n chips. No, he has no money. So I said , huh well it will have to be cold leftover chicken and chips..............then he sulked as that to him is not a proper meal. So he got the best of the leftovers, the cat got the rest and I got the pomegranites!! Good innit?

Morning girls xxx

Grrrrrrrr Trips - sounds like our house!

triplets Sat 20-Oct-12 23:19:06

Evening girls..............not much of a day, cooked.............................cooked.............and cooked......now I`m bored.............really really bored..................

Chopstheduck Sun 21-Oct-12 07:16:01

Morning girls.

shay just woke the entire house up, so a bright early start for me! hmm

Spent all day yesterday traipsing round Wembley, hoping to relax a bit today. It's a hindu festival time - Navratri, so it was MANIC! Got lots of nice Indian sweets and snacks and once I've done my comping will sit down in front of the footy and stuff my face partake in some delicacies!

Morning girls xx

buryburybury Sun 21-Oct-12 09:22:43

Morning smile

Treadmill slowing to a brisk walk. Just glimpsed through thread <<waves>>. It's all a bit shit about the school trips.

triplets Sun 21-Oct-12 13:54:49

ha ha you can`t fool me Rubestergrin
Yes its all utter crap and its all about money. Very worrying, another thing to add to my list!!
Really miserable here today, throwing it down, windy, just love days stuck in when everyone is boredddddddddd.

bubby64 Sun 21-Oct-12 21:54:38

Trips - What a crap thing to happen with the school, you would think, like Chops said, they would have a changeover period, they have done that in this area where the 3 tier system is changing to the 2 tier, schools have had 3yrs to a)build extra classrooms at primary schools and at hight schools and b) ensure that the teaching staff find posts in either one or the other.
Parents were not happy witht he changes, but at least they are doing it in the best way possible. Also, your DK needs a good slapping!!
Hi Ruby - going in disguise now???
Boys have done a sports day with Young Farmers today, their team came overall 2nd out of 6, considering its a newly formed branch with only 15 members, and only 8 could attend, they didnt do so badly.

bubby64 Sun 21-Oct-12 21:56:07

Oh, and Chops - Good news about your J!

triplets Sun 21-Oct-12 23:40:25

Just in from a night out with the girls, a charity quiz night, we came 9th out of 16 teams!! Didn`t have time foor supper before I went, took nibbles and now feel awful, nuts,crisps,popcorn and 2 pints of Spitfire Ale!! Posh.......innitgrin

Morning girls xx

Half term week.....ahhhhh lie in? No, Lew will be here in half an hour <<sigh>>

buryburybury Mon 22-Oct-12 07:01:18

Tis my Halloween name change bubby.

I think bubby is right about the transition Trips - it will take time.

Half Term!!! shock not round 'ere it ain't. << yawn>>

Chigertick Mon 22-Oct-12 09:21:18

Hello all - I have been lurking again, haven't posted as I don't have any advice re the school/ teenagerdom <scared about having all that to come!>

We are now into week 4 of illness/ear infections/colds/d&v bugs
Very helpfully when we were on our 8th drs visit she said - well now they're in day care you can expect them to get lots of bugs (!)
I pointed out that they had actually started getting "all these bugs" within 1 week of being discharged from hospital at 37 weeks ( nearly was a readmittance but for the feeding tube) and did she mean I shouldn't bring them then?
She conceded that no that's not what she meant - still left feeling as though she thought I was wasting her time.

I too am thankful it is half term here although J and E will still go to their childminders so I can do my planning in peace!

Have a good day everyone smile

ZombieB64 Mon 22-Oct-12 11:09:41

Name change appropriate for how I feel as well as halloween!
Hi Cigertick - you dont have to offer advice on our problematic teens to jump in, we talk to anyone about anything!!
Keep going to the GP if they are continuing to be unwell, and, if you feel things are not improving, as to be re-referred back to your paediatrician or, if your little ones are still under his/her care, ask for a urgent review. Sometimes you have to jump up and down and make a fuss to get things sorted. I used to do this, and my GP soon learned I would not be fobbed off as far as my DC's health was concerned, wanted shot of me more likely
and would refer me on when they had recurrent problems
Shabs - 1/2 term next week hereabouts - very late this year, the kids are all knackered already!!I am a fool to myself, and have agreed to have mu neighbours kids all week as she acannot get time off from work, I will have an extra 3 bodies from 8am-3pm every day I must have been mad to agree, but she caught me on the hop when she asked, and I said yes without really thinking it through!
Trips Glad you enjoyed your night outsmile

ZombieB64 Mon 22-Oct-12 20:46:00

56 flu jabs done, 94 still to go! I feel like lining them all up against a wall and throwing the syringes like darts!! Plenty of compliments on how they didn't feel the injection though,<< preens with professional pride>>
Oh, and I have won an auction on EBay for M's electronic drum kit too, £68 including a stool,(or drum 'throne' to give its proper name confused).
So that's both birthday gifts sorted and still 5 weeks to go!, must start looking at Christmas gifts now!

triplets Mon 22-Oct-12 22:32:09

Can you please stop all this name changing, takes me ages to work it out! Had a visit from my niece with baby Jacob today, she came to ask a favour. Could I have Jacob for an hour on Frid as she wants to go for a singing lesson, don`t mind at all as long as its not every week.......it would not go down well with dk and Frids are a nightmare with ATC night. Poor Becs had 2 teeth out at 4pm today, the start of her 2 yr dental treatment, she is not a happy bunny! Going to e-mail the head of school after I have done this, air my views!All very very worrying, its really going to affect my children at a very critical time. Not half term here Shabs, as you are always up an about so early.............ever thought of doing a paper round?

<<<runs away before the wet kipper comes>>>

Morning girls xx

LOL @ paper round!!

triplets Tue 23-Oct-12 22:23:55

It was just a thought Shabs................er where is everybody? I come on here for company don`t you know, been a very silent day here today as I am not talking to dk, he really really peed me orf this morning so I went to town two hours early. I walked too, its a 40 min walk along the seafront, thick fog, muttering obscenities...................times like this I miss Mum, I would always phone her up knowing she would cuss as well as me and back me upgrin Feeling very fat atm, some days I feel slim, then others I feel fat, but guess what? Went into my local M&Co store this morning (fashion) and one of the girls rushed up to me and asked me if I would model for them at a charity fashion show in aid of Cancer Research shock I declined, I would die if anyone saw what was lurking underneath blush

Oh Trips - you should do it - I double dog dare you!! That would be great xxx

Sokmonsta Wed 24-Oct-12 02:13:36

Morning! Catching up here after going to bed at 730pm with a shitty headache. Woke up at half 11 and been awake since. Bloody pnd. <offers round cola cake baked in an effort to feel human>

Trips that is crap about school changing at such a critical time for you. I know there's never a good time but there must have been some leeway to ensure the kids/staff don't get royally screwed. Reminded me of our parents induction for dd's reception. All these parents harping on about which secondary we feed into and going 'oh we don't want X as they're really poor atm, we want Y' not realising that school has also just failed its ofsted and is also in special measures.....

Joshua (dts) is on his second lot of antib's in just over a week. The cough I originally took him to gp for, and left with antib's for ear infection, has finally turned into a chest infection. Poor baby sounds like he's trying to cough a lung up.

Jennifer (dtd) is apparently a lazy so and so. She's only 6.5 months (5.5 corrected) and with Joshua leaping ahead in the movement stakes - been rolling over for a month or so, now rolls around like a flipping eel - only serves to worry me that she's not bothered with the whole rolling/moving thing, hates tummy time and just headbutts the floor, barely lifts her face off it. Stupid I know as she pushes her feet against the bars of the cot to turn given the space. Someone please tell me I'm being neurotic and she is perfectly normal. You'd think I'd know seeing as these are %233&4 but its been new territory each time (girl, boy, vaguely prem twins). Dh insists we could have more children so I am threatening him with triplets if that does ever happen (long and boring story about how we seem to outdo each previous pregnancy).

Best attempt some sleep I guess or I'll suffer later when ds1 wants to scream in my ear. Hoping next week (half term here) he'll finally succumb to the chicken pox going round preschool. He and Dd1 have Escaped every opportunity over the last 4 and a bit years so not optimistic. Just want it out of the way really. hmm

Morning girls xx

bagpuss Wed 24-Oct-12 07:01:19

Morning!

I'm off to read thread properly with my morning cuppa. Just sat down in our living room and noticed a spider the size of a small mouse looking at me from the middle of the floor!

Back later...

Chopstheduck Wed 24-Oct-12 07:58:05

Morning girls x

Oh trips, you should have grabbed it! Would have been fun!

Sokmonster, long time since mine were that small, but I think she is still very little. My dts were quite fast developing, but they didn't crawl until 7.5 months and they weren't prem. I think wiht dts it is easy to compare them and get worried, but I wouldn't be worrying for that.

Rav is terrified of 'piders' , l love winding him up wiht them grin

Chopstheduck Wed 24-Oct-12 16:34:30

Afternoon girls.

I have a rare evening home alone tonight! DH has taken Ravi off to the Arsenal game - keep a look out for him on the telly - he is going to be a mascot tonight! grin

Look out for the skinny, (and prob one the tallest there) indian kid, dark cropped air and dark eyes!

triplets Wed 24-Oct-12 22:21:32

Wow that must be one excited boy...................awwwww smile
Don`t know whats up with me lately, feel low, fed up etc.
Feel as though I need a treat..........would love a proper holiday, not just a break, just pack a bag, no selfcatering where I take the kitchen sink, where I could relax, laugh..........find abit of the old me again.............funny once you lose your parents, it launches you to a place you don`t want to be. A scary place..................

triplets Wed 24-Oct-12 22:22:38

grin just wanted to be the first!

Chopstheduck Wed 24-Oct-12 22:24:44

He was thrilled! Saw him on telly, he looked so excited! Terre is a pic on Facebook.

I'm not surprised you want to get way from it all, holiday sounds good though, can I join you? grin

Chopstheduck Wed 24-Oct-12 22:25:47

Ooh envy - elphaba!

triplets Wed 24-Oct-12 22:34:57

Now thats a brill idea Chops, a multiple vacation, where shall we go?

Chopstheduck Wed 24-Oct-12 22:39:36

Hmm, somewhere very hot, decent food, decent wine, ooh how about Barcelona?

triplets Wed 24-Oct-12 23:13:39

That`ll do nicely, tapas..........will it be hot enough?
I`d love to be back in Wine Country, in Calif, good good food and fab winesmile

Chopstheduck Wed 24-Oct-12 23:35:44

Mm, but American food? Though I do hear the sea food is nice.

I booked the bellagio yesterday, and with a fountain view! We could all pile in there? grin

buryburybury Thu 25-Oct-12 06:23:11

DO NOT LEAVE WITHOUT ME!

Morning girls xx

triplets Thu 25-Oct-12 08:59:08

Now then , we all need to check our passports are up to date and don`t forget our Estas for the States. The BELLAGIO is Fab, been in there, very pretty ceiling! I lurveeeeee American food, because there is such a vast choice, always shocks me though how expensive the wine is seeing as they grow so much of it!

Chopstheduck Thu 25-Oct-12 09:18:42

passprt - check
esta - check

now flights, business or first class?

Chopstheduck Thu 25-Oct-12 09:26:38

oh and I do love american breakfasts - Denny's is my most favourite place ever! I often recreate stuff from their menus at weekends - huge burritos full of egg, avocado, bacon etc. <drool>

We have to renew all 3 of our passports for next year........Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Chopstheduck Thu 25-Oct-12 10:54:56

All the kids run out at the same time, I'm sure we had to do 5 in 2008! Absurdly expensive.

ZombieB64 Thu 25-Oct-12 11:27:46

Hi All, I'm the only one with an in date passport etc- good excuse to leave them all behind!!grin Another vote for USA here, breakfast=Pancakes, bacon and maple syrup Dinner=any seafood place with crab and lobster where you can bash away with a hammer for me pleasegringrin
Sokmosta - Dont get paranoid about DTD, mine were very prem (29.5wks), and even with age adjustments, any prem baby will still be behind the developmental goals, but they catch up eventually. M, although the biggest of my two when born, was always anything from a couple of weeks to a couple of months behind J in those early years, J was always the impatient one, and M far more laid back in his attitude- this continues even today!
Chopster - Glad he had a good time, I will try to google it to see him.
Trips - You have GOT to do the modeling-it will boost you up no end!

ZombieB64 Thu 25-Oct-12 12:02:52

Chops pics of all mascots on their websitegrin

Chopstheduck Thu 25-Oct-12 12:53:16

so frustrating, all the pics are of arsenal players, and Rav got a Schalke player! Gonna have to wait until we get sent the official pic sad

HarrogateMum Thu 25-Oct-12 13:01:35

hi all, hope you're all doing ok! Can someone give me a round up of what's been happening since I was last here!? (not sure when that was...possibly in the summer hols!) HM xxxx

<<throws herself at HM and gives her a bear hug>>

HarrogateMum Thu 25-Oct-12 17:32:11

aw thanks Shabs, much appreciated! So what's news!

buryburybury Thu 25-Oct-12 17:49:56

Oh - so you're back then HM? [nonchalant]

<<checks window and bolts door>>

Put the kettle on Shabs!

Chopstheduck Thu 25-Oct-12 18:02:19

Whose HM? [fgrin]

On train back from meeting footballers <sigh>

Chopstheduck Thu 25-Oct-12 18:02:56

Who's even! Blame the footballers!

Errrrrr.......I went to falibleedinraki and back. Dan & Em got married in August. Lew started school in September. Tom is in his last year at borstal High school. Think thats it for me hmm

triplets Thu 25-Oct-12 23:01:05

HM welcome back...................too long, too long. Not sure if you were around when I lost my lovely Mum, she died on July 3rd...............so so miss her. Went to Sherwood Forest in Aug with my band of not so merry men. Then my beautiful cat Ollie disappeared which has broken my heart again, still no sign of hi, 4 weeks now. Then bombshell, they are closing my kids school, they are to merge next Sept, yr 11 just in time for gcse`s. Then.................................roll call.........der der der derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr,
I went to London for the w/end for a MN meet up and <<swoon>> met the Mighty Rubester who is the most lovely lovely doll as FG would say..................and about 4 weeks ago FG popped in............see what you`ve missed.......................oh and we caught a couple of newbies on here..........you must hang around you knowgrin

bagpuss Thu 25-Oct-12 23:29:55

Hey girls <waves at HM and ruby>

Trips the school merger sounds a nightmare for you - has it all sunk in for the trio yet?

Not much news here - half term has consumed me this week and I have had more than one g&t tonight as a result grinblush.

Morning girls xx

Have been dancing, singing and doing rudities all night with Shane Ritchie (Alfie Moon - Eastenders) in Faliraki. Was rather nice.....he is <<ahem>> very attentive!!! grin

Then I woke up to a freeeeezing cold, dark, windy Bolton morning!!!

Chopstheduck Fri 26-Oct-12 08:40:54

Morning girls

I don't think I've had much news really. Went on holiday (France and switzerland). Jack is bow being assessed for adhd, and playing football for his school team! Ravi was a mascot for Arsenal, and I went to drool over meet some NFL footballers yesterday.

rubyrubyruby Fri 26-Oct-12 08:54:00

<<waves back to bagpuss>>

I have had the weirdest year ever HM. A strange combination of great success and good fortune tinged with much sadness.
I'm working a lot more hours than I should be more and feel like I'm sprinting to stand still most of the time.
I met the lovely Trips but can't believe I forgot to buy her a drink! Next time.
We had a fantastic holiday in the summer and managed to get to a few Olympic events smile

bagpuss Fri 26-Oct-12 14:38:04

Afternoon! Shabs you are lucky you can even see the weather today. My lovely neighbours have workmen in who have parked the most enormous white van outside next to our house. I thought it was foggy from where I was sitting blush.

Today the older dc are playing minecraft and arguing which is driving me insane and dt1 has just pooed in her pants by accident (nice! hmm). On the up side I have made shortbread and have tea smile.

Sockmonsta, sorry I was on my phone last night and so couldn't do a very long post, but I wanted to say that I agree with Bubby and chops about the dts development. Mine were born at 32 weeks and still seem more like two year olds than three. They are also very little and have always hit milestones later than my older three dc. It is really hard not to compare them to one another also (but totally normal to I think), I still sometimes do it now!

HarrogateMum Fri 26-Oct-12 14:40:46

Oh my I have missed so much! Can't believe there have been weddings and all sorts....and Trips am so sorry to hear your news about your Mum, sending you lots of virtual hugs.

And MN meet up you say!!??? Can't believe I missed that! Shame on me....must try harder, must try harder. Big wave to all the new multiple mums (I feel like a newbie myself now!) I feel like Ruby, sprinting to stand still, I try to juggle work, three kids, husband who is away usually 4 nights a week, pta, church helping, helping at beavers (don't ask) and the extra curricular hockey, gymnastics, karate, badminton, swimming, rainbows etc etc etc...........I think I need a lie down!

triplets Sat 27-Oct-12 08:04:43

<<peeps in to find HM flat out on the shag pile.......quietly wheels in trolley, fresh bread from the bakers, homemade raspberry jam, steaming coffee and a pot of Earl Grey as I think HM is a bit posh>>

Morning girls xx

triplets Sat 27-Oct-12 08:07:51

How rude of me.....................Goodmorning girls............blowing a hoolie and freezing cold here, start of half term, nice to be get up early. Had the most restless nights sleep, think it was becaue I was ratty last night about the boys stupidity, long story!

triplets Sat 27-Oct-12 08:08:32

Shabs, me and thee !

HarrogateMum Sat 27-Oct-12 13:02:17

posh, moi? Absolutely not! I'm from Yorkshire remember!

Chopstheduck Sat 27-Oct-12 18:41:48

Ooh I love a cup of earl grey. I'm now officially posh, I got called posh Kelly on the radio! grin

Just got back from the nfl fans rally on Trafalgar Square, was lots of fun! Got to see players, coaches, cheer leading, music, beer and wings!

Chopstheduck Sat 27-Oct-12 18:44:01

And I've been to Harrogate - it's very posh! Cept for the little red light bit the bus used t I go past - is tht still there??

triplets Sat 27-Oct-12 23:20:31

I have been once myself, took my Mum and Dad with Matthew back in the early 90`s. Dk treated us to tea at Betty`s, one slice and 5 forksgrin

triplets Sat 27-Oct-12 23:40:10

Forgot to ask, dd has a broken phone and a broken ipod, Christmas is coming and I am getting fat, please put a penny.....................now where was I? If I have a £100 to spend on her main present can I get something that would do both..................I am not very geekyconfused

Chopstheduck Sun 28-Oct-12 07:35:48

hmm, trips, I would probably look at blackberry curves, which seem to be the must have phones for all teens, and she would be able to put music on that. I think they may start at slightly over £100 though.

As ours are getting older, and wanting all these gadgets they have to save to contribute towards the cost of them. I was quite proud of ds1 last weekend, he had finally saved enough to buy himself a little laptop. Dd tends to spend a fortune on shoes and clothes instead though!

Morning girls xx

triplets Sun 28-Oct-12 09:04:30

Goodmorning girls, the sun is shining through my bedroom window and the wind has dropped off smile Just had a cup of tea brought up to me by dk, so because of that today he can be dh grin
Chops mine would be saving forever, they only get £5 a week pocket money, which now that they are teens and are out and about doesn`t go anywhere. Mum used to give them extra, but sadly she`s not here sad
If she doesn`t get a phone/ipod I might look for a keyboard for her, she has a big old one my brother gave her and she has taught herself to play it and read music, she`s actually very good. James is easy this Christmas, his main pesent is going to be a bugle as he wants to join the RM School of Music! Thomas I haven`t a clue, he`s not into music, clothes, only x box and he`s got enough of that sort of stuff! We are off to Suffolk on Thurs for three nights with Harry`s niece and family, 11 of us going so should have abit of a laugh.

<<looks out of her living room window>> Brrrrrr - freezing cold and chucking it down here Trips.

Have no idea what to buy for Tom.....just ignoring Xmas at the moment (as usual) then I have Danny & Gareths 31st birthday on the 28th December <<sigh>> they weren't due till January 10th!! 3 days after bloody Xmas....3 piggin' days!!!

triplets Sun 28-Oct-12 10:41:03

There is going to be a row any moment..................dd and dh!

Chopstheduck Sun 28-Oct-12 11:22:07

Oh dear, grab your coat and leave them to it, trips!

Everything OK Trips? <<hides back behind the sofa>>

triplets Mon 29-Oct-12 00:01:17

Hi........dd gets a phone call to ask her if she wants to go roller skating at Sandwich. An hour later she is still in her bed, I knock on her door to ask her nicely if she is going, if so what time? I am greeted with "OMG I told you! At 11.15am she surfaces, goes downstairs and grabs a bowl of cereal, dh walks in and she says..............."oh yeh can you take me to Alices we are going skating". He says yes. At 11.35am she runs upstairs and gets ready, avoiding the bathroom and toothbrush. Comes down, asks for more money and then looks at the clock and throws hysterics as she is supposed to be at Alices at 11.30am so its all our fault she`s late! Off they go. 40mins later dh returns, a trifle angry. When she said could he take her to Alices, she ommitted to say Alice was at her Grandmas, 10 miles away! I lurveeeeeeeeee Sundaysgrin

Oh soddin' 'ell Trips - girls are way beyond scary.

Just watching Mr Robbie Williams for about the fourth time on X Factor. He has gone all chunky and has more than a few grey hairs. Oh my god his bum is beautiful. Cheeky grin, beautiful eyes. I would pay to maul with his todger and do rudities with him!! xx

triplets Mon 29-Oct-12 00:17:33

Oh Shabs you`ve made me laugh!! Boys are sooooooo much easier, I love her to bits but OMG............what the hellgrin

Girls are more scary than scary. grin

As soon as Mr Williams' video comes on youtube I will link it here. <<swoon>> he has the most beautiful chunky bum xxxxx <<bites hard>>

triplets Mon 29-Oct-12 00:37:15

Shouldn`t you be in bed? Tom back to school tomorrow, mine just starting half term, hoping for a lie in! Got terible IBS atm, one wonders why???

Yep I should be in bed Trips. Our Lew will be here about 7 am - he is not back in till Tuesday. Tom has to be up and running about half 7. What a fun day to be had by all. Cant settle down at all. xx

triplets Mon 29-Oct-12 01:02:46

Sleep Shabs sleep. xx

<<yawn>> Morning girls xx

Chopstheduck Mon 29-Oct-12 07:07:43

morning girls.

I think I got about four hours sleep! early night tonight i think.

Sokmonsta Mon 29-Oct-12 20:10:11

Evening ladies. Thanks for the reassurances about Jen. I know deep down I've worried unnecessarily (she's my smallest ever baby) and we have progress Jen rolled today. Was so pleased I watched her flail on the floor like a fish out of water before scooping her up for cuddles. grin

Joshua has finished his antib's and seemed no better, but have been told his chest is clear so good news there. Just have to persevere with his inhaler and see if it makes a difference. Back at drs with him Friday so they can check him over again.

At drs myself Friday as well. First appt since being given ads. Am permanently shattered at the mo with early wakings, to the point where it's affecting dh. He knows I can't help it but he's finding it hard. Just need to stay asleep so I'm not falling asleep early evening. Meh. It'll comehmm

Oh, and half term here this week. No sign of the pox yet. Maybe the tough first year has given James a cast iron constitution??

triplets Tue 30-Oct-12 00:22:22

I promised myself an early night too, not relaxed enough to sleep. A fraught day, kids and visitors, yes Shabs, the Wiganites turned up right on tea time! Sokmonster, everything is fine. My trio were born at 32 weeks, dd was 4.1oz, ds was 4.7oz and ds was only 2.15oz! Thomas (4.1oz) was the first to do everything, sit up, crawl, cut teeth, talk and walk and get out of nappies. Then roughly three months later Rebecca would walk talk etc..........then there was James (2.15oz) he was months behind. Thomas started pre school once he was dry in the Sept. Becca cracked it in the Dec so she joined Thomas at pre school in the Jan. By April James was still in nappies, turned three!!! Pre school agreed he could go in on the Tues afternoon as it was quiet. The Sunday before he started he simply said "don`t want this", and pulled his nappy off! So he was just over 6 months later starting pre school. Now he is the tallest and also far more grown up in the nicest way than the other two!! Don`t worry, they are fine and btw I love their names, xx

triplets Tue 30-Oct-12 00:40:48

shock I`ve been nominated fo the Christmas Appeal shock oh my, why?

Morning girls xx

Maybe because you deserve it Trips??? grin

triplets Tue 30-Oct-12 07:50:02

Hmmm, all us Mums deserve it Shabs, I could name quite a few! Thank you though to who ever it was as it must be one of you!! I don`t know what I`d do without MN, hard to imagine life before it. You do build up something special, I think we are soooooooooo lucky that the Mighty Frumpster started all of this.....................talking of which..............FG where the hell are you?

grin

Chopstheduck Tue 30-Oct-12 08:46:58

Morning girls x

I didn't even see the xmas appeal threads! Must have missed that altogether.

<<lies in wait for fg>

rubyrubyruby Tue 30-Oct-12 09:07:59

Well done Trips smile

I am a 'donor' on the Christmas Appeal.
So many worthy posters I didn't nominate anyone.

bagpuss Tue 30-Oct-12 10:21:35

That's fantastic trips, well done, you do deserve it! thanks

Where is FG?

triplets Tue 30-Oct-12 23:50:37

She`ll appear, probably no fuel for the helicoptergrin We used to tease her she was a celeb as she is sooooooo secretive, remember the old days? FG, Mars, Mommalove, LG&T............quite miss them. Got and idea.........lets invite them for Christmas!!

Morning girls xx

Great idea Trips x

Chopstheduck Wed 31-Oct-12 08:13:50

Morning girls

I see Mars, Mommalove, and LG&T around on fb, but no sign of FG sad Anyone remember meeley2? I met her on here, and we still talk lots, she had another boy, who is now 3 I think.

triplets Wed 31-Oct-12 08:38:19

I`d forgotten Meeley, ok lets plan a Christmas party, Shabs would you do the bunting, d`y think Derkster would be Santa? grin

Bunting? TICK. Derkster - Santa - he will be something if he doesn't get off his lazy arse and help me with anything to do with this house.....'Get me up in the morning and I will look after Lew for an hour (Lew has yet another heavy, snotty cold and temperature) I cant see the point in waking DK up so he can do it...

There will be a point in this day when I explode....just thought I would warn everybody!!

bagpuss Wed 31-Oct-12 10:33:20

Morning!

I remember mars (and even spoke to her on the actual telephone once!) also tkband3, neenz and another poster who had 5 like me but I can't for the life of me remember her name blush. Also lg&t and ester too. We were quite a busy little bunch on here 3 years back! I never did FB with anyone here I don't think but haven't visited it for a while because it scares me, or rather, some of the people I know there scare me. Maybe I should log back on and have a spring clean.

Christmas party sounds like a plan! At the moment my living room looks more like the island of sodor than anywhere for festivities!

HarrogateMum Wed 31-Oct-12 14:29:27

Think they all deserted Mumsnet, although for me it wasn't a desertion, just not enough hours in the day! Am on hols this week though in freeezing cold Spain....at least it's a bit warmer than the UK!

CHops - red light district in Harrogate? I'd love to know where that bit is! Hee hee! Trips not surprised about the one cake five forks at Bettys, it is extortionate, but lovely.....a friend of mine used to work there when we were still at school, she used to bring a box full of cakes back on a Sunday night when they were going to be thrown in the bin....yum! Those were the days...

Sokmonsta Wed 31-Oct-12 19:29:49

Fuck. Spoke too soon. a spot appeared yesterday. A big one. Looked yuk this morning then James knocked it the bath so it popped. Several more have since appeared. Joshua has a spot on his bottom. Am watching it closely as both he and Jen have been off it the last few days hmm.

triplets Wed 31-Oct-12 23:05:34

Doesn`t feel like Weds tonight.............dunno why I said that really confused you are going to miss my late night ramblings as we are off to Suffolk tomorrow for 3 nights with dk`s sister and co. Looks like a lovely old house, 5 bedrooms, 70 yards from the pub! We are doing a Halloween party tomorrow night for the kids and guess who`s cooking? Shabs we`ll do the invitations when I get back! xx

triplets Wed 31-Oct-12 23:06:31

Socky........hope the dc`s are ok xx

Hope you have a lovely break Trips xxx

triplets Wed 31-Oct-12 23:36:47

Thanks Shabs, weather forecast is not brill, just be nice to have some other company!! Hope Lew gets shot of his cold, dose him up with some vitamins! xx

Morning girls xx

Chopstheduck Thu 01-Nov-12 07:10:50

Morning girls x

Hope they are ok soks!

I'm all worn out, but I think the kids had the best halloween ever! We went to westfield, dropped the older two off at the cinema to see Hotel Transylvania (which is apparently very good) and then took the younger two to to catch a Hummer limousine to a Monster High party! The party was ace, really looked after everyone, cupcakes, coffees with hearts in the froth, the stars of the film were there, they got halloween hair, makeup, potion making. The boys were on a high all day! grin

Then we dashed home, lit the pumpkin and went trick or treating. The kids are now comparing their hauls, since dd and ds1 both went with their friends, and the dts came with us. I was exhausted after all that, and packed them off to bed and had a posh Chinese takeaway with crispy soft shelled crab!

Today, football training and grocery shopping. Is it nearly term time again yet....please?!

<<sits in a corner sobbing>>

First Lew AND Tom are on half term.
Cope with the arguing, wrestling, feeding, providing drinks etc etc etc
Then Lew ill AGAIN
Lew here at 7am - 'helping' to get Tom up....arguing, messing with Toms 'stuff', falling out with each other ALL before 7.45
Lew back to school today.
Tom sets the scene last night about how he doesn't feel well!!
Tom coughs all night.
Go to wake Tom up.....pale as a ghost but with a allergy type rash!!
Wake up Tom its time for school.....<<man voice>> I dont feel well.
Flounce out of his bedroom, come down, ring school.

My God I am so sick of my lot. I feel like a sponge that soaks up all their illnesses, moaning, selfishness etc etc etc. Just glad I have only ONE teenager at home. I bow down before you ladies!!

Chopstheduck Fri 02-Nov-12 06:13:01

Morning girls x

How is Tom today, shabs?

Any more spots Soks?

Sleepy, so sleepy! Football training this morning then off to Ice Age Live this evening. I may fall asleep at Wembley. Zzzzzz!

Morning girls xx

<<sings the 'sound of silence'>> Tom was fine - as soon as he knew he was officially off school angry Went through Facebook with a fine tooth comb - yes, I have his password, and he knows I do. Checked all through his messages - nothing bad (for a change). Then noticed one of the girls in year 10 lost her battle with cancer a couple of days ago. The outpouring of grief amongst the kids was overwhelming. Dont think he fancied being in the middle of it. He has gone in today, muttering and moaning and, admittedly, still coughing. He has saved over £40 for a new PS3 wrestling game that comes out today......has reserved it at Game in Bolton. Told him - NO SCHOOL, NO GOING INTO BOLTON TONIGHT.....weird how bribery works.

Chopstheduck Fri 02-Nov-12 11:28:34

Lol, at least normality has resumed!

It's very silent here too. I'm sitting in car while the boys are tearing up a football pitch. Very nice! I did plan to go into town but sat in traffic for 45 mins then gave up!

Chopstheduck Sat 03-Nov-12 08:05:31

Morning girls x

Ice Age was brilliant, would well recommend it. More circusy than I expected with a lot of acrobatic type acts. The kids loved it.

Today I shall mostly be ironing, while the boys are off to see Bond. Then off out tonight MINUS kids <<sings Think by Aretha Franklin to self>>

Morning girls. xx

MINUS kids Chops? Sounds wonderful!!!

Sokmonsta Sun 04-Nov-12 07:24:11

Morning. Though it feels like afternoon!

The Spot multiplied. Poor James is covered head to toe, in his ears, on his lips and some spectacularly large ones on his fingers (which he keeps asking me to take off). Joshua's spot disappeared. But he has viral and fungal rashes. Jennifer is coughing like she has a really bad smokers cough, sounds like she's going to throw up or cough out a lung. I am shattered after a very disturbed night. Dh did his bit but I woke earlier than normal ( just after midnight as opposed to 2am) and then couldn't get back to sleep.

Chopstheduck Sun 04-Nov-12 07:58:08

Morning girls x

Poor kids, soks! We've had a viral cough thing with temperature, lethargy, etc. going round our house. dd was off school for most of a week with it, was not nice at all. Hope they are all better soon.

It is horrible out here today. Absolutely bucketing it down! Really hope it dries up before the fireworks later. Will def be welly weather - field is going to be a swamp.

Morning girls xx

<<sniff, cough, sniff>> I have the dreaded lurgy today. Thought I had got away with it!

Chopstheduck Sun 04-Nov-12 20:21:49

Aww shabs!

<<passes tea and hot water bottle>>

Just back from fireworks. Dinner in oven, kids in bed, beer is chilled, just need the footy to start and we are sorted!

triplets Sun 04-Nov-12 23:19:29

<<Staff nurse Peace wheels in meds trolley...........now lets see, ah yes a squeeze of STOP SPOT cream, 2 tbs ANTI LURGY mixture and the last of her chocolate nuts to share...........oh and a bottle of 2009 Rioja she didn`t guzzle last night>>

Morning girls xx

Did you enjoy your break Trips? xx

bubby64 Mon 05-Nov-12 10:12:47

TripsBeen away from MNet for a week, and find you have been near me on a vist. Gutted as I would have suggested a meet up if I had known!!
Soks- better getting it all over and done with in one hit- mine decided to do it one after the other, so, in the end, it went on for nearly 5 weeks total.
HM - I missed your visit back on here too!
Shabs - Hope you feel better soon.
I spent last week looking after my 2 plus my neighbours 2, and am really glad to be back at work, as they exhausted me. Also, because I was trying to keep all four 9yr to 12yr olds amused, I ended up trying to walk too much, and have put my back out as my limping got so severe, so in pain with that as well as the ankle at the moment.
Not that my 2 seem to appreciate it, in fact, there has been a running battle all week with James and DH and I, he has become a mouthy, lazy, moaning pre-teen, who will pick an argument with anyone at the drop of a hat! I hate to say this, but I really am struggling to like him at the moment, Mike has had his moments, but it is usually because James has been sh*t stirring first.
On the plus side, the Pontiac is nearly finished, I have managed to sort out the boys birthday, and I earned enough over the past 2 months doing extra work to pay for Christmas this year.

triplets Mon 05-Nov-12 14:30:40

Hi all............yes Shabs I did thank you, it was a nice change and loads of good food and wine and adult company! We had a laugh!! The house was to die for, slept 12 of us easily, and pub within spitting distance! Bubbs where are you then? We loved the area, Thorpeness, Aldeburgh and Southwold. Just disappointed I didn`t get to the shops at Southwold, absolutley nowhere to park, so we just did the pier which was great fun. Weather was ok until Sun but we were leaving anyway. So back to the grind!

Chopstheduck Mon 05-Nov-12 17:41:18

welcome trips n bubby!

sounds lovely trips!

Bubby, I feel like that a lot about dd atm! I just keep hoping it is a phase and she will improve again. she is a moody, stroppy, often vicious little madam at times right now. Its a bit like living with jekyll and hyde, and I'm never sure if jekyll or hyde is going to appear in the mornings! And i do NOT like Hyde much!

No one is near Birmingham are they? I'm probably going up there first weekend of december and will be all by MYSELF grin

triplets Mon 05-Nov-12 22:38:07

Evening all................soon back to normal here at Peace Towers. Rebecca`s friends called for her at 4pm and left at 8pm, more mouths to feed! Catching up on washing, endless amounts of underwear, the boys seem to get through more than her! And don`t you just hate matching up black school socksconfused Still no sign of Ollie, felt strange coming home y/day, no Ollie and no Mum to ring. I would always get home and call her to say we were backsad Night night all................xx

Morning girls xx

Kept waking up all night because I was having panic attacks....how the hell do you have them in your bloody sleep? AND I take beta blockers to prevent them??? Awful struggling to breathe etc. <<slaps herself very hard>> Got hair that looks like a Farah Fawcett Majors 'do' this morning LOL....all flicked back at the sides - looks beautiful hmm

<<scratches bum and stretches>> Ah well!!

Chopstheduck Tue 06-Nov-12 09:11:10

morning girls x

hope you are feeling better shabs.

Trips, you really need to put your foot down! No way would I be able to feed extras at short notice. Usually plenty of food, but lots of strange forrin' food that our guests would be unlikely to touch! Dosa, anyone?!

dd went to school with no breakfast this morning. Turned her nose up at 50/50 bed, so I told her to take the white bread. Gave me a dirty look and started grumbling about that, then took it started whinging and moaning, so I took it off her, gave it to Jack and told her to go without! Did feel a bit mean, but I bet she won't try it again! grin

Aye I will be fine Chops. xx

bagpuss Tue 06-Nov-12 11:22:15

Morning! <<hoovers shagpile and hands out slankets to all the poorly people>>

Trips, you say your boys generate more washing but I have just removed half a load of washing comprising mainly underwear from dd1s room. She is hiding it! Would anybody care to tell me why? Your break sounds lovely though. I'm not envious in the slightest, no envy

It is rainy and grim here today. I just want to go back to bed really, but housework needs doing!

Chopstheduck Tue 06-Nov-12 19:11:26

I havea slanket. I'm not ill but I do love my slanket. It's has New York giants all over it (American football).

Been one of those days. Went on 40 mile round trip to Asda to collect something and they wouldn't give it to me cos I didn't have dh's bank card! Even though the order is with My account and in My name. Photographic evidence in the form of criving licence not good enough apparently.
Nearly rear ended a car on the way back trying to sneak thru an amber light! blush
Then I had to get onto the council who have sold our details for the electoral roll even though we ticked the box asking them not to. Apparently they lost this years form! That's why I hate filling those forms in.
Then dh was an hour late because someone jumped in front of a train. <sigh> fish and chips for dinner tonight once the kids are in bed!

bagpuss Tue 06-Nov-12 20:42:12

Yes, I am currently wrapped in my zebra print slanket, glass of red by my side grin.

Boo to Asda, chops. I have had a run in with Tesco this week but it managed to get me a gift card in compensation for them messing up our order so I'm feeling calmer now.

Enjoy your fish and chips, we had hairy bikers mince and dumplings. Proper cold weather food here brrrr!

Chopstheduck Tue 06-Nov-12 20:56:13

<sob> I was planning to make hairy bikers pie! Could t find tarragon anywhere though. Fish and chips was tasty however.

bubby64 Tue 06-Nov-12 22:41:42

Zebra striped slanket here, and spaghetti and meatballs for tea. The. Out to my choir practice
Trips, you were about 40mins drive from me, but that's nothing in this neck of the woods, I would have cut across country to Framingham then on to you if I had known.
Chops -I always buy the same black school socks so I can pair any of them together, saves loads of hassle.
Shabs- after spending last night awake and in tears due to ankle pain, I can sympathise with you, now GP has prescribed Tramadol, so hoping tonight will be better.
Went to the school today as M has lost his whole PE kit! All named, including bag and trainers, couldn't find it anywhere, but did find both his school sweatshirts he had lost! I have told the school I am not spending £40 on replacing it all yet, so will be sending him in with plain white redshirt and navy shorts and a tracksuit top instead of rugby shirt!
Oh,and J continues to be a pain in the arse!

triplets Tue 06-Nov-12 23:56:12

<<brrr jolly cold up here..............if only I had a slanket wink >>

I woke up yesterday this morning with my big fat bum out in the freezing cold bedroom......DK hogging the sheets and quilt.....glad I couldn't see my big fat bum cause I reckon it would have been a lovely shade of blue!!!!! Oh how I wish I had a slanket with the Man City badge on it.

Morning girls xx

Chopstheduck Wed 07-Nov-12 07:56:37

Morning girls x

Tramadol is great stuff, hopefully that will help. A friend gave me some, for after I had all my top teeth out, and it really was fab stuff. I still have some for emergencies!

I hate weds. I am tired and I want it to be thursday! Wed is the day of cross country, beavers and girls brigade. <<goes to put taxi light on car>>

bubby64 Wed 07-Nov-12 08:26:25

Slept for more than an hr at a time last night! First time this has happened for weeks, and I feel sooooo much better this morning.
I despair over Mike's memory, I sent him upstairs 3 times this morning to get his school sweatshirt, and 3 times he came back down without it! Also, has already missplaced the memorystick and his spare locker key i attached to his schoolbag with a chain yesterday, any ideas what i can do with him apart from staple things to his forehead?????

bubby64 Wed 07-Nov-12 19:14:39

Evening All - We have had Dr Jekyll James this evening,shock the pleasant, helpful boy that has been in hiding for the past week or so. Don't know why this is, and I am not questioning it, just basking in the peaceful atmospherewink

triplets Wed 07-Nov-12 19:32:11

Meanwhile at Peace Towers dd has been severely reprimanded angry

Chopstheduck Wed 07-Nov-12 20:31:04

Ooh do make the most of it bubby!

What's happened, trips?

bagpuss Wed 07-Nov-12 20:32:59

Oh dear trips, that doesn't sound good sad.

Bubby, that's good, I hope it continues!

I am as pleased as punch today. I had a lovely letter from ds1s school this morning, he has been put on the g&t register shock. It is the first I've heard of it but I am immensely proud grin. Just need to push encourage him on a bit now. It was target setting day, today which to a parent means your child with have half an hour in school and spend the rest of the day on his Xbox hmm. We survived though!

bubby - staple away love.....Tom lost/had stolen two full PE kits in year 7....including football boots, trainers, indoor kit, outdoor kit etc etc. hmm

Trips - you OK love? xx

Tomorrow Tom has two Advanced Maths GCSE exams.....one in the morning and one in the afternoon - which will not finish till 4.30pm (normal school hometime is 3.15) - then he has to get home, have his tea and we have to be at Bolton Albert Halls for 7pm for him to be presented with his GCSE Maths certificate from last year.....the thought of all that is making me feel knackered and I only have to go to the presentation with him!!!

triplets Wed 07-Nov-12 23:01:05

Well done Tomster, bright lad............just like his Mamsmile
Oh its dd again, I truly don`t know what to do with her. She was told not to brings friends home after school, she was to have a night in. So just after three the phone goes and she says she and her best friend are going to another friends house. I told her to come home but she didn`t. Then at 5pm she rings using friends phone as hers was here, asks what time she has to be back. I told her 6pm at the very latest. At 6pm she phones and says can she stay out longer as she is just sitting down to tea at her friends!! I was furious as her chicken dinner was in the oven, we all had fish and she doesn`t like it. I slammed the phone down on her. 40 mins later she swans in, no apology then goes upstairs and locks herself in the bathroom and runs the bath. Been in her room the rest of the night. What do I do? I feel like standing outside the school gate and escorting her home..............she`d love that! Trouble is there are 3 exits!!

Morning girls xx

Chopstheduck Thu 08-Nov-12 09:05:43

Morning girls x

trips, I would have gone out and physically hauled her back from her friends. I will not be defied, it makes my blood boil!

I overselpt today, been a mad rush! I think it's going to be another one of those manic day <<puts wine in fridge>>

bubby64 Thu 08-Nov-12 09:46:04

Oh Trips - She is really taking you for granted, isnt she, I think the time has come for a reality check, stop making her food unless she is actually present in the house at least 30 minute before the mealtime, and also present her with a bill for last nights ruined meal, and dock the apropriate amount from her pocket money! Or can you ring the friends Mum's and say please do not make my daughter welcome, as she has been told to come home after school? Also, if she brings friends home, be strong enough to just say, NO, unfortunatly it is not convenient to welcome you here tonight, and this may be the case in the future if she brings you home without warning again!
OK, R will sulk and be a stroppy madam, but that will not be much of a change from her normal behaviour of late, so you may as well stick to your guns and not have the hassle of either waiting for her to turn up or having the extra mouths to feed! Or you could alway go along the ultimate embarrassement route of ringing the school and asking her to be kept there until she is collected in person by yourself!
Shabs - Good Luck wishes are wafting their way to Tom as I type, and you must baske in the proud mum moment tonight, you deserve it!
Chops - I hate it when we have that "oh my God, we overslept" feeling, the whole day often seems a bit out of kilter after a bad morning, doesn't it?
Still got "nice J" this morning, he actually had a joke and hug with DH, and was nice to his brother as well, long may it continue. In the post this morning we had a postcard from his Form Tutor, saying how well he was doing at school etc. The school teachers usually only send these out if a pupil has done particularly well at a subject, or if they have been nominated for a Head Teachers award. M had one 2 weeks ago, so J really chuffed to get one himself today!

Chopstheduck Thu 08-Nov-12 09:49:41

aww well done J

It def is out of kilter, I jsut dopped my phone down the loo! sad It's sitting next to me now in a bag of rice, drying out and I going to have to wait 24 hours to see if it is still working or not.

Chopstheduck Thu 08-Nov-12 10:39:14

jsut testing, having problems posting <<ignore me!>>

bubby64 Thu 08-Nov-12 11:00:44

we could never ignore you Chops- hope it gets working properly!!

triplets Thu 08-Nov-12 14:09:06

I wonder where Chops isgrin

Sokmonsta Thu 08-Nov-12 21:04:38

spot cream gratefully received and thankfully applied. James has scabbed over. We thought hoped the twins were coming down with it but nothing. Could be another couple of weeks yet. Is it wrong to really want it over and done with? It must be a particularly nasty one as it's gone through everyone in preschool and has started in reception now (fingers crossed for Em). Certainly the worst the school has seen in a few years.

Shabba, hope you are feeling better now.

Trips, no advice as mine are still at peppa pig age and younger. Just thinking of you and hoping things settle down soon.

Looking forward to christmas in the sokmonsta house now. Christmas shopping nearly finished, parents invited and actually accepted. Husband not working christmas or boxing day. Thrilled grin

We also have progress on the twin front. Jennifer rolled. Not once or twice now but several times. So excited for her, especially as she rolls from back to front and back again huge relief at worrying for nothing

Joshua has decided to up his game though with the caterpillar commando crawl. Very slow, amusing but nonetheless effective. It really won't be long before he will be crawling all over the place.

<hands out copius amounts of chocolate from buy one get two free selection boxes to save herself and returns to online christmas and grocery shop>

Sokmonsta Thu 08-Nov-12 21:06:12

Noooo chops your poor phone! (James once put the sky remote in the fish tank and it worked fine once dried out in the airing cupboard) <hopeful>

Tom got 3 GCSE certificates at Presentation night tonight shock Its mainly for the year that left at Easter but there was about 20 kids from his year 11 who got certificates. He got French, Science and Statistics certificates - he wasn't expecting 3.

He must have told them he wants to be called Tom at school. His certificates say Thomas but when they called his name I just heard 'TOM' - couldn't help but grin. He is buzzing but exhausted. 2 x 3 hour exams in one day is not great....Maths teacher has promised them that in tomorrows Maths lesson they are having hot chocolate, home made cake and no Maths!!!! grin

Sokmonsta Thu 08-Nov-12 22:16:33

Oh congrats to Tom (and your good self Shabba).

I loathed maths. Dread any of the dc's being good at it as I'll be stuffed. But I'm liking the sound of his special maths treat lesson tomorrow. envy

He has a great Maths teacher....I said I bet Mrs Lynch was proud of you all today doing so much work - he looked at me and said 'she was....I can always tell - she gets all angry and shouty but then grins at you on your way out of the exam room????' LOL

bubby64 Thu 08-Nov-12 22:41:13

Oh, shabswell done to your Tom. I'm glad he is being treated tomorrow. Mike likes (and is good at) Maths, he is in the top stream at school, J could be there, but wont put the work inhmm. DH is also a maths guru, I just do enough to get me through, work out drug doses etc.
Soks What did we tell you! They will both get there in the end, they just need a little more timegrin I remember when J started to toddle, and M was still only rolling, they would work together to get over babygates, M would roll in front of it and J climb onto him to get enough height to climb over, and they continued to work together to get things done ever since (well, until recently anyway, now they cant agree on anything!)
Chops hope phone works soon.

triplets Thu 08-Nov-12 22:54:20

Oh well done TOMSTER, you have obviously worked hard for this, you have a very proud Mamsmile
God knows what mine will get with all the upheaval of the school closing, very worrying.
Got indigestion...............can`t really blame it on half a Picnic bar..........can I ?

triplets Thu 08-Nov-12 22:59:24

Socky, how old are you dt`s now? My trio were born at 32 weeks, James was only 2.15oz the other two were over 4lb. He was the last to do everything, 4 months behind Thomas is most things, but he got there. But guess what? Soon as they hit their teens, its James who is out in front, first to shave, first voice broken, etc. He is very mature, a young man, where as Thomas still seems a boy............strange isn`t it?

Morning girls xx

rubyrubyruby Fri 09-Nov-12 07:00:06

Good morning x

Thank god you posted Shabs as I had lost he thread. Well done to Tom grin

Hope everyone is ok, including DCs (sokm) and phones! (chops) grin

Trips - my DD is just a bit younger than yours = nightmare. Mine has taken to just shouting 'shut-up' at me whenever I say anything something she doesn't want to here.

Chopstheduck Fri 09-Nov-12 07:12:33

Morning girls x

sokmonsta, glad the twins are making progress now. Mine used to do the climbing on top of each other thing too. dt2 would stand on dt1 to get over gates, so we ended up with two gates on top of each other for their bedroom door! Put the top one upside down, and it was possible to open both and get in and out!

Though, it is scary how quickly they go once they start. DT2 used to climb on dt1 to get out of his cot, then he learned to get on top of the chest of drawers, then the window sill, then one nap time - how to OPEN the window and jump out! A neighbour knocked on the door, to tell me my toddler was outside, whimpering at the door - I thought he was still in his cot! I rushed up A&E convinced he had broken both his legs, but he was sooo lucky and got off with cuts and bruises!

Well done to Tomster, enjoy your hot chocolate and cake - very well deserved!

The phone is ALIVE!! Will not be taking that in the bathroom again! I've only had it a couple of months, so very relieved.

ha ha ha ha ha ha Tom got up, got dressed, had his breakfast and went out of the door without a single word.....On his way out he turned round and said (in teenager odd voice grunts) laters Mam....im sooooo tired....love you!

Have been thinking about my twins development. They were 2 weeks early (undiagnosed as twins until 10 days before I had them) and Danny weighed 5lbs 13 and Gareth 4lbs 1. Dannys development was fast and he was soon sitting up, rolling around etc etc. Dont know if it was Gareths heart problems that prevented him doing the same OR his birth weight????? Gareth finally managed to roll over just before he died at 7 months. Its so interesting for me to read all about your multiples....it used to make me jealous and sad but now I find it fascinating.

bagpuss Fri 09-Nov-12 11:04:46

((((Shabs)))), well done Tom too smile

This morning I have been reliving the tale of dt2s heart condition on another thread. It has just occurred to me that it is 9th November which is my 16th wedding anniversary. On my 4th wedding anniversary I spent the evening in our local a&e with ds1 who was 3 weeks old at the time. We ended up at AlderHey by midnight while he had emergency surgery to stabilise his heart. I cannot believe that is 12 years ago, also how much ds1 has come on and exceeded our expectations of him - amazing really but I feel quite sad remembering that time now.

Also, dh has forgotten our anniversary angry. Who said romance was dead?

My dts development has been a bit higgledy piggledy really, when one does something it quite often takes the other a while to get the hang of the same thing, but occasionally they can be evenly matched. There seems no reason for it though! Chops, OMG, mine have never climbed out of windows! How ever did you cope?

shock bagpuss - I either didn't know about your DS heart problems or I had forgotten. I know I am a nosey cow and tell me to sod off if you want, but what was wrong?

Gareth had two holes in his heart - one large and one a little smaller. He had pulmonary hypertension. He was a poorly little lad who almost always had a big grin on his face. Specialist told me that all babies are born with an extra valve which closes when they are born (my medical terminology is very poor, please bear with me) in Gareths case he thought that valve had remained open and thats what enabled him to get to almost 8 months of age. The whole multiples thing is something I find fascinating.

Midwife who delivered my twins inspected the placentas...Ewwww what a horrible job - she found on the side of one of them what looked like a tiny piece of coal.....in her opinion she said that suggested there had been a triplet that had not formed shock

rubyrubyruby Fri 09-Nov-12 11:26:56

It is interesting hearing all the twins stories. We get caught up in our everyday life and I tend to forget we all have that common link.

My DTs (b/g) now almost 14 and both bigger than me went to 39 weeks and I was then induced. They were (b) 6lb5oz and (g) 5lb10oz. I had a normal delivery and was home within 24hours - I know I am really lucky. Within 2 weeks DD weighed more than DS and still does although he overtook her in height about a year ago and is now nearly 6ft!

rubyrubyruby Fri 09-Nov-12 11:28:28

shock Chops at window incident. I never had that but did find one trying to flush the other down the toilet once grin

bagpuss Fri 09-Nov-12 11:59:46

No, it's ok Shabs, I wouldn't expect you to remember, i think I told the story ages ago but a quick recap:

Ds1 was born with transposition of the Great Arteries and needed an arterial switch op at 4 weeks old. As I said, he got to 3 weeks old before any healthcare professional had an inclination of anything being wrong. we had the mad dash to AH and then the surgery, which was new 12 years ago. Can't really say what the prognosis will be long term, but he looks and acts like a totally normal child, apart from the large scar on his chest. What I said further up thread about him being put on the high achievers register at school has us literally astounded because 12 years ago his sats were so low pre surgery that the doctors we saw said they couldn't rule out brain damage shock.

Dt2 was diagnosed with aortic stenosis after he was born, thought to be mild, but turned out to need some minor surgery to help him. Has been ok since but still needs 6 monthly appointments to check it doesn't get worse again. If it does then he will have another baloon catheter although the consultant did say that when he is fully grown a valve replacement might be a better bet.

I remember you saying about Gareth before. He sounds similar to ds1 wrt the extra valve being open. Ds1 owes his life to that really, he would have only lived days if it had closed when it was supposed to.

Still, we're all good for now, which I am very thankful for!

Chopstheduck Fri 09-Nov-12 12:40:10

Mine were 6lb and 6lb7, wonder if they are the biggest?!

I didn't know that about valves closing at birth. Ds1's didn't close for a few days, we had to go back to get it checked, never really thought too much about it at the time, still in a sort of after birth haze.

grin at the loo! Shay did try to shove rav in the washing machine once! Shay was a grumpy baby, never happy until he could move around, then he was like the tazmanian devil. He drank perfume, ate heart tablets (relative's house), jumped out of the window, poured gloss paint all over the patio, tried to climb up the chimney. I really couldn't take my eyes off him for a second. Still bloody can't - it was only last year he smashed the car into a brick wall!

They were such a shock after, quite, placid ds1!

Bagpuss shock I can imagine how worried you must have been....WOW he sounds like he is doing very, very well now. Kids are so frightening grin

I had never heard about the extra valve either, before Gareth. The coroner said that he was putting on the death certificate (as cause of death) Congenital heart defects but told me to ask the specialist about the extra valve.

I find the whole thing fascinating - am also proud of my little lad - because of what was learnt from his heart problems (and the problems of many other babies) many people are alive and kicking nowadays. We met a lovely lad years ago on holiday (still in touch) and he had the same condition as Gareth....he had been operated on and sorted out by the time he was 2 years old. At least through the sadness and the longing to see Gareth again....lots of massive strides have been made to treat heart problems.

bubby64 Fri 09-Nov-12 20:13:30

Hi. as I said before , my 2 were 29.5wks, M 4.4, J 3.3 had to come quickly because of twin to twin transfusion syndrome, causing M to have pulmonery hypertension with some heart failure(which is thought to be why he has now got Chronic benign Hypotonia, as this is usually caused by mum having high B/P, not child) J was anaemic and underdeveloped lungs. M had a CCam (growth in lung) found on scans as well, so he had a partial pneunectony at 2yrs 6m. Amazing how well they both are now, compared with how they were as babies.smile
Oh and we had a window incident too, a neighbour knocked on our door to say J was sitting on the windowsill dangling his legs out- I have never run up the stairs so fast, or entered the bedroom so quietly so I did not scare him!!

Morning girls xx

Bubby I hate those words pulmonary hypertension. The hospital only discovered my twins because I had been put on total bedrest because of my BP. Think they ran out of ideas and they sent me for an xray.....and thats when they found out there were 2!! I ended up in a single room, with blackout blinds - valium injections every four hours along with blood pressure checks. Ended up with pre-eclampsia. Dont think I have ever felt so poorly in my life....the only thing that brought the blood pressure down was an epidural (which I had insisted I DID NOT WANT). About 10 years ago I was put on tablets for BP as it was still high. Now it is controlled with beta blockers and dieuretics (wrong spelling). With Matt my blood pressure was higher than with the twins shock

When I had Tom I had very little morning sickness and sailed through the pregnancy with NO high blood pressure......although I went 20 days over with him hmm I was fighting fit. Seems I must have 'got the hang of it' after having 3 children already!!!

Sokmonsta Sat 10-Nov-12 13:20:23

Twins are now 7 months old (6 ish corrected). They arrived at 36+5 weighing 4 lb 4 and 5lb 5. Jennifer was in a hurry (poor people waiting for a scan must have thought wtf as my panting arse was whooshed through a packed waiting room) and Joshua ended up being an emcs under general. We spent a total of 13 days in hospital as they'd recently set up transitional care, where nicu babies who still need support but not the intensive care of nicu stayed with mum. They did 4 and 5 days in nicu for feeding/blood sugar issues and were tube fed for about a week and 11 days. So we escaped quite lightly.

It's only been the last few days that I can say I honestly enjoy the twins. And I think it's because all of a sudden they've done that jump and are interacting a little more. Joshua is a very giggly baby when he gets going.

They're still quite poorly with coughs at the moment. Last night was horrendous and Jennifer ended up in bed with us a couple of times as the poor mite was coughing so much she couldn't catch her breath.

Unfortunately I know I have a tendency to be neurotic about illness due to James being hospitalised at 7 weeks with viral meningitis and a hellish first year of related hospital admissions which followed. Luckily our gp surgery are very understanding and always say they'd sooner see the babies and put my mind at ease than not, and have them end up really ill.

triplets Sat 10-Nov-12 23:32:00

and so they should Socky, it scares the living daylights out of you xx

Did anybody watch the Memorial Service tonight from the Royal Albert Hall? Done brilliantly as usual, but Shabs..............Rodders was there and he sang the slowest Auld Lang Syne............lump in my throat which then ended up me in tears when they then sang Abide With Me, last sung at Mums funeral in July :-( Sat there sobbing hot tears, did anyone even glance at me or put an arm around me........................sometimes I wish I wasn`t so sensitive. Night night all xx

bubby64 Sat 10-Nov-12 23:35:19

You are quite normal in only just starting to enjoy your babies, I was the same, mine had been so poorly and i spent so much time worrying for their first few months, I didn't have time to enjoy them, I thought that i was somehow a poor mother as i only really started to like looking after my boys after that corner had been turned, and I could see they were developing into healthy, happy and "normal" babies. don't get me wrong, i loved them with all my heart, but i found it hard to be relaxed enough to really appreciate them. I can see this now, but at the time I thought their was something wrong with me.

bubby64 Sat 10-Nov-12 23:46:30

((((( Trips )))), I sat and cried too, so you aren't alone. Can't believe on of your lot didn't give you a hug tho, I shall have to send my two over to give you a "double bubby mummy" cuddle,( that's what the boys call it when they both hug me at the same time)

Morning girls xx

No I didn't see it Trips - I will try and watch it on 'catch up' on tv today. I think it would have made me cry as well. xxx

bubby64 Sun 11-Nov-12 18:12:24

Limping so much I have now thrown my back out, in so much pain I don't know what to do with myself! R took boys out for lunch as I can't stand long to cook, but I also couldn't sit in the car to go with them sad
Got to have it well enough to work tomorrow as I can't afford any more time off with my operation coming up in the new year.

triplets Sun 11-Nov-12 22:08:33

Oh poor you Bubs, do you have any ibuprofen gel, I used to use it on my back. Its miserable, esp when you try to sleep. Really hope it eases off over night for you xx
Busy day today, boys on parade for the Memorial Service, makes you feel very proud of them, they can be good..............sometimes!
Had the pleasure of dd all w/end, not a friend in sight and she spoke to mesmile
Cooked a whole leg of lamb for supper, should have enjoyed it but I didn`t. It was out of Mums freezer, her fav meat in all the world and I just wanted her to be here eating it with me. She last came for Sun lunch at Easter sad Back in the late 80`s we used to go to Puerto Pollensa and take Mum and Dad. Our fav restaurant was Tangos, Mum would always have the half shoulder of lamb and Dad the suckling pig............they were such happy days. Night night all xx

triplets Sun 11-Nov-12 22:24:00

Just added pic of James on my profile!

Morning girls xx

Oh my word Trips - James is all grown up - how the hell did that happen? grin

Our house is like Emergency Ward 10 (or Casualty for you young 'uns). Tom has a very high temp and a hacking cough. Been dosing him up with paracetamol etc etc. Today he also has to go to the health centre and have his complete toenail removed....<<vomit>> he has had both sides of each toenail removed - he has awful problems with ingrowing toenails. Just went upstairs to get him up and thought 'sod it' - he would only be in till lunchtime anyway.

Chopstheduck Mon 12-Nov-12 08:14:45

Ward 11 reporting! dd is completely better, ds1 is still hacking a lot, but going to send him in and keep my fingers crossed he doesn't get sent home, and dt2 is coughing non stop and so will be home. Still dt1 to get it. They really are on top form - catching this one at a time!

sad Bubby, you could try this stuff. We usually buy it from Indian grocers, and it is lovely, really warming. Kinda like deep heat but a LOT more potent.

Trips, James looks fab, and I must check out the albert hall service on catchup! Mine missed their parade due to their constant coughing sad

Chopstheduck Mon 12-Nov-12 08:21:45

it's going to be one of those days. Just had Jack wailing cos he has lost his homework. Apparently 15 minutes before we leave for school, is a perfectly reasonable time to announce this and demand help. And dt1 has left his coat at the park yesterday.

<<crawls in a corner and hides>>

Sokmonsta Mon 12-Nov-12 08:42:08

Bubs poor you. Hope you can move more easily thing morning. Thank you for your kind words.

I'll probably regret saying I was enjoying the babies as I see your coughs and informing toenail and raise you 3 cases of chicken pox, of whom i also have one twin vomitting and coughing a lung up, one shitting through the eye of a needle and a 4yo complaining her legs ache. grin

Still, Emily is happy as she can keep puddles the class cat a little longer. I'm going to see if I can have some fun with it and get some red dotty stickers wink

Decided to ring the Year 11 team at school.....had already rang the stupid answer machine in the attendance office.

Told the delicious Mr Hunt (Oh my word I am so glad Tom took History) exactly what is wrong and how Tom is worried that his attendance percentage will go down (they go mad about attendance). Awww he said 'Last week was too much for the year 11's and I have just realised he is the youngest boy in his year. The kids like Tom who care about their education also put too much pressure on themselves. He is a great lad - he really cares about what he does at school. He is a total credit to you and tell him, from me, to get better soon and come in when he is fully recovered.'

Having said all that when he goes back they will put him on report. He will have a card that he has to take from lesson to lesson to be signed. Unlike the 'bad 'uns' who dont go in and then wait outside school for their mates, at hometime!! Standing there smoking and causing trouble.....and, NO, they are not smoking ordinary cigs!!!

<<sigh>>

Sok your last message was so funny it made me almost spit my brew over the laptop!!

Especially 'shitting through the eye of a needle' <<snigger>> Are you from up t'North or Darn Sarf?

Chopstheduck Mon 12-Nov-12 09:08:13

<< confused>> Why are they putting him on report, shabs?

I don't envy you the chicken pox, soks! Mine were all a bit older when they got it. dt2 actually got in on holiday, we were in Holland at the time. Spent the week walking around with him in a hoody, trying to hide the spots a bit!! dt1 got it afterwards. They were both pretty mild, luckily, and I even took dt1 to legoland, because he was so bored staying home, once the spots had scabbed over and he wasn't infectious! I did have one woman grab her child and run off as if he had leprosy though. He was only off because he was still spiking a temperature without regular calpol and the school won't administer calpol!

At Toms high school, when there attendance drops below 94% they have to do an attendance report card for about a week. Mind you this is the first time, when he has been off, that I have spoken to one of the Year 11 team. So, maybe he wont have to do it. They got a new headmaster last year - a smashing bloke, very strict. The attendance report cards were his idea!!!

Chopstheduck Mon 12-Nov-12 11:17:04

They really need some sort of judgement though, as to whether the reason for absence is genuine or not before making them do report cards <sigh>

Fingers crossed he doesn't have to do it.

For many years it has been the very worst High school in the area. Over 2,300 pupils and a weak headmaster who wanted to be everybodys friend.

New head came in last year. Very, very strict man but I like him a lot. He expelled 6 lads in Toms year within the first term. He seems to be getting everything sorted.

The report card was one of his first ideas. Tom said to me 'Stop worrying about it Mum <<cough, cough, cough>> Everybody has to do it <<cough, cough, cough>>

Chigertick Mon 12-Nov-12 12:44:19

Just checking into say I hope all the poorly DC are better soon.
We're also in the depths of d&v bug number 3 in a month, high temps, and lots of tears. I don't think we've had one week this year where one of the DTs or me hasn't been ill!!
On a positive note we've ordered the DTs birthday presents using our 25% off at ELC so all set for March!!
We also managed a child free afternoon on Saturday which we used to tidy the housesmile.
We also took down the room divider between our dining room and lounge as they now just climb over it (egging each other on!) and they can't quite believe it!

bubby64 Mon 12-Nov-12 12:59:25

Thanks for sympathy ladies- in work today, but still in a lot of pain, my manager came and saw me this morning and said not to worry about taking time off, but I DO worry, as it is really not fair on my job share colleague.
Shabs- Hope Tom is ok after his minor op, it can be very painful for a while, so be warned! Hope they dont put him on report, surely they dont if it is due to a medical procedure-its not as if he is just "bunking off" after all.
Soks, Chiger and Chops- hope DC are all well soon, it is miserable when you cant really help them get any better, but just wait it out, isn't it.
Trips more (((hugs)) for you, blow MN ettiquette, you need some. Glad DD was better over the weekend, and please dont beat yourself up over things like the roast. You have many happy memories of your mum and dad, I'm sure she would have wanted you to enjoy it as much as she would have, as, from the sounds of things, your mum loved life and loved you, and wouldnt want you to get so sad, but to remember the happy times instead.

Entire toenail gone!! Bubby he has had one side of each toenail done before - one procedure when he was only about 9....he said that it wasn't too bad. The bloke who did it said the anesthetic would wear off about 5pm....it just did. He is coughing every few seconds and feeling sorry for himself cause his toe is 'wrecking' as he just told me!!

triplets Mon 12-Nov-12 22:47:20

Ughhhh don`t talk to me about toenails..............back in the 70`s I was a deputy buyer for Clarks shoes in a dept store in Canterbury. Ughh how I hated the summer, sitting on that little stool measuring sweaty feet...................some of the toe nails .........<<shudders at the memory>>

rubyrubyruby Tue 13-Nov-12 03:08:15

I have eventually caught up on thread and through all the tales of sickness, sadness and woe I have still managed to raise a smile.

Hope everyone is ok xx

Life's no bed of roses here at the moment either.

Chopstheduck Tue 13-Nov-12 07:06:19

morning girls x

Yuck, trips, sounds like worst job ever!

Hope Tom is feeling better soon, shabs.

What's up rubes? sad

Morning girls xx

rubyrubyruby Tue 13-Nov-12 08:19:12

DH is away for 2 weeks <<sigh>>
Norovirus has found it's way into the house so will now probably sweep through all of us.
I had to phone in work at 6:30 because DS3 is too sick to leave and I hate letting them down - I'm not sure who will cover for me.
DD is being vile, but I am also worried about her and why she is being so vile. We had massive falling out last night and she packed up and left (whilst DS3 was throwing up!) angry she came back

rubyrubyruby Tue 13-Nov-12 08:21:23

Oh - and re: work. I have all the relevant paperwork here at home with me hmm

Chopstheduck Tue 13-Nov-12 08:24:39

oh no rubes sad sounds like a very rough time.

Have a brew

how old is dd?

Girls are beyond frightening!!! They scare the kecks off me.

Hope everybody is soon well at Rubester Towers. xxx

All quiet here.....Tom cried himself to sleep last night. Couldn't stop coughing - he has, I think, pulled a muscle or something in his back with the constant coughing. He said 'My toe is wrecking Mum and I just want to cry!!' Ended up rocking him like a baby hmm - he is at least 8 inches taller than me but he sat on my knee like a little toddler. grin

rubyrubyruby Tue 13-Nov-12 08:31:45

She is almost 14 and very difficult.

<<goes into the kitchen and hides under the stairs from teenage girls>>

Do you find a massive difference in teenage boys and girls Rubester? Or is that all a myth???? My niece, Gracie, who is almost 3 runs rings around me...she has a cute lisp and says stuff like 'Auntie Sthabba do I look like a pwinceth in my dwesth' 'Errrrrr yes love, its great.' 'You're not a bit girly are you Auntie Sthabba?' grin

rubyrubyruby Tue 13-Nov-12 08:37:53

x-post Shabs.

Poor Tom sad

I totally lost it with DD last night. I couldn't believe she was being so horrid and then came down to her level and was equally horrid! <<gah>>

We made up and had a cuddle which is extremely rare as she usually stiffens and shys away if I go anywhere near her. She's bigger than me - they are all bigger than me. Which is kind of scary when you are on your own - and supposedly in charge!

rubyrubyruby Tue 13-Nov-12 08:43:11

Well Shabs, I have had no problem at all with my 3 DS's (all teens or above) but DD is very different. Maybe it's me? Maybe I just connect with the boys better. I do blame myself if I'm honest sad but struggling to find a way back.

triplets Tue 13-Nov-12 09:01:42

Ruby, believe you me it is not you............I now speak from great experience. Its hard to believe how much they change from being our sweet dd into someone we think we on`t know anymore. As you know I have had a good year of it now with Rebecca an I can see it hasn`t even peaked yet! Y/day was another stormy one. She goes to school looking lioke something out of St Trinians, she takes coats etc off the min she is out of the estate, she had a friend here last night and the noise, bad behaviour at the table was awful. So she is on a weeks ban from bringing back a friend or going to a friend. She is sulky, snappy and selfish..................all the time. I have sat and tried to work out what we are doing wrong, but after listening to many other Mums of teen girls it seems thsy are all the same. I am told they do eventually come out of it!! We just have to ride this one out! My boys are such a doddle in comparison!

rubyrubyruby Tue 13-Nov-12 09:24:27

I am hoping DD will come out the other side soon! She has been like this for a good couple of years already and looks very mature for her age. She looks so old it's worrying but doesn't really act it. She is still only 13 and I have people query me when I try to get her in anywhere as a child. The woman at the check-in desk queried her age and checked her passport details this summer and she has another 2 or 3 years travelling as a child to go yet!!! It's scary.

I'm quite petite and she is much larger built, not overweight, just tall and broad - think Sharon Davies type. She comes across as confident but is emotionally fragile. A fragile monster - very tricky.

Chopstheduck Tue 13-Nov-12 09:38:39

girls def are trickier. dd is my oldest, so the only one anywhere near puberty really, but I still can't envisage the boys ever being quite so complex. I really struggle with dd at times.

Hopefully since she has started early, maybe she will come through it soon.

bagpuss Tue 13-Nov-12 23:39:13

Evening girls. Just checking in after a rather rubbish evening. Will post properly in the morning, but I hope you are all well and teenage angst has abated smile.

Sokmonsta Wed 14-Nov-12 04:39:55

Shabba, from 'darn saarf'. Ish. East Anglia. Thankfully the squits and vomitting have mostly abated. Although Jennifer is still trying to cough up a lung.

The girls are really suffering with the pox. Emily because she is 4 and itchy, refuses cream and gets upset easily at the minute. Her brother only has to look at her! In laws were going to have her overnight wed for me but I've suggested James goes instead as he has been terrorising the other 3. i reckon it'll be easier to look after 3 sick kids than 2 poorly babies and a 2yo with cabin fever. I may also have suggested in a moment of madness that i'd have my youngest niece, if needed, for my sister as she also has pox, thanks to james and possibly the twins. Jennifer even has pox on the edge of her eyelid. That was a dash to the gp to make sure no harm done yesterday. Just have to monitor it for more/redness/signs of infection sad

Blimey at all the teenage angst. I do hope that has all settled down now. The only experience I have is years ago as a babysitter (didn't go down well that i was a year older than one of my charges) and a nearly 13 year old niece who is currently lashing out in reaction to her parents separation and divorce proceedings. Poor child is privy to far too much imo but I'm just offering a compassionate ear and space to both sister and niece when needed.

I've been given new meds for my pnd. Woke up this morning (still having insomniac tendencies from about 3am) but feel these are much better than my previous. I no longer get a feeling of complete and utter panic/stress/anxiety.

Off to make a cuppa now and see if that helps sleep resume. Apologies if I've missed commenting, I really should mn on the laptop but phone is easier at this time of day and I've a memory like a sieve.

Morning girls xx

<<yawn>> My lad is NOT well. Left food last night!!! Sure sign that he is not well. He was covered in a rash last night.....did the glass test!! He looked at me and did a 'drunken grin' and said 'Mum you are totally barking, a glass is not going to take my temperature away!!'

He is asleep....obviously I am not grin

Chopstheduck Wed 14-Nov-12 06:50:50

Morning girls x

lol at Tom. grin

Meeley was saying little girl up her way just had meningitis. sad

I grew up in East Anglia, soks, lived right near Great yarmouth, finally escaped moved away when I met dh.

I need teenage girl advice!!

Not sure if you all remember a few months ago, dd was planning an active lesbian relationship with a girl from school. She was very confused, and hormonal, and got herself in a right mess. We caught her before anything happened, then it all came out at school, blew up in her face, she had counselling and things really settled down over the summer holidays.

However, last night she was on the phone to the girl again. Said they just friends, nothing more. But she was on the phone for an hour and has sent a picture message.

I really don't want dd going down that avenue again. It really screwed up her schoolwork, made her very unhappy. My instinct is just to forbid it altogether, but chances are she'd just carry on in secret.

Do I let it go, and keep a very close eye and monitor the situation, or do I put a stop to it now, and totally lock down on her and risk her possibly going underground with the whole thing, iyswim, where I can't look out for her?

I have no 'girl' experience but I can remember being a teenage girl.

I personally would go with the first option. My Mum used to tell me what she thought about boyfriends......the one she disliked the most would be the one I wanted to be with.

Scary, worrying stuff. xxx

Chopstheduck Wed 14-Nov-12 10:33:31

I spoke to her this morning, and managed to get her to show me the pics with no fuss, and it was jsut before and after makeup, so fairly innocent girls stuff. I am veyr worried. I've spoken to her nicely, and said I don't wnat her ended up unhappy again or this girl turning her friends against her and leaving her isolated again and asked her to think about keeping her at arms length to a degree. dd agreed. She seems to think she has it under control and I am worrying over nothing, but she does at least seem to be taking what I am saying on board, so I will jsut have to keep a close eye on things and see how it goes.

And be there for her if it all blows up again sad

Its good that she is talking to you and showed you the photo's. Probably have mentioned this before but me and Tom have a notebook (come to think of it we haven't used it for ages) whenever he is worried or sad I tell him to write it down in the notebook....then I write in reply to him. Kind of like a diary. At one time that was the only way I could get him to talk to me. Maybe worth a try with your DD? xx

triplets Wed 14-Nov-12 14:15:21

Chops, does the girl come to the house? Perhaps you could encourage that, showing your trust in your dd, and be able to keep an eye at the same time?
Just spent a lovely morning at school, making clay dragons................and I was dressed in black......................
Stunning weather here today smile

MummyPig24 Wed 14-Nov-12 18:45:43

Haven't read all the thread so apologies, but we have so many sets of twins in our small village. 2 sets in ds reception class, one set lives next door to another set. My teen cousins are twins, another set of baby twins and teen twins down the road, a set next door to me. It's amazing! Oh yes and a school mum expecting twins. There's so many that the childrens centre run a twins club. Must be something in the.water, hoping its me next!

triplets Wed 14-Nov-12 22:07:19

WELCOME Mummypig to the world of Multiples............are you really hoping its your turn next? We are kind of special I think growing 2/3 and more in our tums!
<<er hum girls we have a new victim visitor>>
Did you bring cake..................wine..............anything? grin

Morning girls xx

Chopstheduck Thu 15-Nov-12 08:16:40

Morning girls x

so busy, barely had time to EAT!

dd is talking, I have tried the notebook idea, but it doesn't really seem to work for my older two. Shame, cos I think it is a lovely idea. Is Tom any better today, shabs?

No, trips, the girl hasn't been round here. TBH she wasn't really welcome after they were planning sex in dd's bedroom. I think you have a point though, and if it does look like they are going to be close I might invite her. I think though would invite TWO girls then I know nothing that way is going to happen grin

Off out to a gig in Hackney tonight, then away with the kids for the weekend, staying in a converted barn on a farm in Cornwall, then another gig on Monday night! Hopefully all this running around I might even lose some weight!

Chopstheduck Thu 15-Nov-12 08:17:52

oh and welcome, mummypig! Do stay, though you jsut might reconsider wishing for twins! wink

Ended up at Emergency Docs last night!!! Tom has the most spectacular rash I have ever seen!! You can see it spreading - starts off as blotchy big pink spots and then all merges together - worse on his face. Doc says he has a middle ear infection and a bad throat infection - ITS NOT MEASLES!! Thank God. I didn't allow Tom to have MMR jabs. For many reasons....although it caused an enormous 'argument and fall out' with my former GP. The rash is a viral rash and he will not let me take pictures of it grin

He has been given antibiotics and they seem to have 'kicked in' this morning.

Also rang NHS Direct last night...the lady who I talked to sounded just like Trips.....ended up telling her my entire life story and having a cry - OMG I bet she was glad she was working last night <<sarcastic face>>

Chopstheduck Thu 15-Nov-12 09:06:04

aww, poor Tom, hopefully he will be feeling better soon.

I didn't let the dts have the MMR neither. With Jack and his 'problems' I couldn't risk the twins having it. I love Jack, but things are often a real struggle for him, and I wouldn't wish asd on anyone.

Sokmonsta Thu 15-Nov-12 09:50:34

Oh Chops! I like the idea of inviting her and another girl round though. Safety in numbers? If it helps (probably not a lot if I can sumarise as short as possible), when my sister was 14, very nearly 15, my parents were approached by a bloke (22 years old) and he asked if he could take her on a date. He'd seen her from my sister and I working in my parents shop and also when she had been walking home from school. I've never worked out why except my sister was particularly challenging at that age, but my parents said yes! I guess they too thought if they said no she would just go ahead and do it anyway. They started dating. A year later they got engaged and when my sister finished her gcse's she formally moved in with him (she was 16). When she just turned 17 they had a little girl. A pregnancy which despite my mother asking repeatedly, she denied until she was 6 months gone! Over the years they have had another daughter, got married and then another daughter arrived. Before my sister turned 30 she filed for divorce. I feel terrible as I once said I couldn't see them being still together when she was 30. Anyway, my parents found they weren't over fond of the guy as the years went on. But they couldn't tell her to leave him etc as of course they had allowed the relationship to start. All they could do was support my sister and the girls as best they could every time something went wrong, he lost his job(s), had an affair.

I guess what I'm saying is children may not make the choices we would like - my sister didn't get past her first term at college, but all we can do sometimes is be there to pick up the pieces and do our best to encourage them to see their own potential, not allow them to be sidetracked at important stages of their lives.

I know it's slightly different in that your daughter is embarking on a same sex relationship, but the success story is I have 3 gorgeous nieces and despite my sister dropping out of college, when her eldest was a year old she got a job, bought a house and has climbed the career ladder at work to management level with very good pay - she has long been able to support herself and the girls. It might be small comfort, but your daughter may just be pushing her teenage boundaries, especially as she knows it's a relationship which has caused problems in the past.

bubby64 Thu 15-Nov-12 10:32:24

Hi All, checking back in.
Welcome Mummypig - Your village sounds like mine! My 2 were one set out 4 sets of twins just in their their class of 19 kids up until they left in July, and there were 3 other sets below them and another set due to start in September! We ran a "Twins Club" in our village up until recently, but, as we all tended to meet socially anyway, it has now become and informal meet up at the local coffee shop on a Friday morning.
Shabbs Your poor Tom, hope he is feeling a bit better now.
Soks Where in East Anglia- I am between Ipswich and Bury, perhaps we couls meet somewhere?
Trips, Chops and Ruby, my 2 sound mild compared with your DD's, but this is early days!
Fetched M home from school yesterday, and he is home again today. Apparently did a spectacular "Multicoloured Yawn" all over gym floor, and then passed out! He has said for a few days he has has a headache, but we thought it was just tirednessblush
J came home yesterday and the first thing he said was "Mum, promise you won't shout at me", so I wondered what was coming, and he then produced not 1 but 2 after school detention slips, both for homework not handed in (Geog and French)! DH and I have repeatedly asked him over the past few weeks "have you any homework to do?" and he has said "no, I did it in homework club". Lying little toad. It has now come back to bite him in the bum[cruel laugh emoticom]. We are due to go to their "Expectations Evening" tonight, to see their form tutors and find out their groupings and targets for the next year, so will have a word with them about homework.hmm He is supposed to write it in his planner, and us tick it off, but he neglects to do so half the time. I think we need his form tutor to check on this a bit more closely.wink
Oh, and back is finally getting a bit better, so I am a happier bunny!

triplets Thu 15-Nov-12 23:43:19

<<Trips hides stethoscope, thermometer and latex gloves.......must adopt cockney accent next time on call so as not to be discovered, takes of NHS identity badge>>
Shabs, hope you got some good advice and that poor Tom is feeling alot better, I know how worried you must be.
Not much news here..............in fact none...............kale nits, hope you get a better sleep Shabs..................z z z z z z

Morning girls xx

triplets Fri 16-Nov-12 08:35:19

Goodmorning.........what sort of night did you have Shabs? Really hope Tom is feeling better this morning. Off to Deal, a nice 40 min walk along the beach!

Morning Trips xx

A quiet night - not much coughing. Peeped in on him about half 6 and he is fast asleep. Still has his weird rash as far as I could tell BUT he has slept well. xx

rubyrubyruby Fri 16-Nov-12 09:52:05

viral rash = they're don't know.

Hope Tom is on the mend Shabs.
Chops - what a difficult situation with your DD, sounds like you are coping well with it though.

I can't remember much about mine being small sokmonster, it seems such a long time ago!

No MMRs when they were little here either, although we did have one when they were older.

DD has been a lot nicer - but then she not been feeling well.

Me? I'm shattered.

rubyrubyruby Fri 16-Nov-12 09:53:28

I need a walk on the beach.

...... will have to make do with the river.

Chopstheduck Fri 16-Nov-12 15:31:26

Hello girls, just waiting for kids to get home then off for the weekend!

Thank you for all the advice, have been reading, just been so busy and not she chance to reply properly!

I was close enough to professor green last night to SNIFF him grin not usually my type, but god he has his charismatic smile! <<rushes off singing Avalon>>

Chopstheduck Fri 16-Nov-12 21:22:14

Anyone care to join me?

Plonks down couple bottles of Devon scrumpy and a box of homemade scones, clotted cream and jam. This cottage is heavenly!

<<stretches out in the shag pile in front of fire>>

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Chopstheduck Fri 16-Nov-12 21:30:12

Ooh I wonder who That was?? grin

Long time no see round these parts!

triplets Fri 16-Nov-12 21:32:35

OMG someone grab her quick...............what ever must she think!
<<Trips shakes the shag, finds half a dozen nuts and scoffs them.........wheels in trolley.......OMG this is soooooooooooo exciting, rustles up canapes and two bottles of Merlot, hangs balloons and waits>>

triplets Fri 16-Nov-12 21:34:34

Chops............get more wine quickly..............Shabs lure her back with your Monster Munch and pear juice...................Chops, where the devil are you now and why weren`t we all invited??

bagpuss Fri 16-Nov-12 22:03:06

Oooh, who was that then? grin

Chops that sounds rather nice envy. And a gig too! We went to see the killers on Tuesday. Concert was cancelled after two and a half songs, because the lead singer lost his voice! Dh was gutted - he's waited 4 years to see them and now we have to wait again until February hmm. We did have a meal out without children though, which was a bonus!

I don't have any advice about teenage girls yet - dd1 is only 10 so I still have all this to come. I find her scary enough as it is!

Shabs, I hope Tom is on the mend now. Ds1 is always getting odd rashes and things when he is ill. I have given up with doctors as they never seem to know why confused.

Bubby, I can sympathise re the detentions and homework. Ds1 got a detention during the second week of school for forgetting homework and frequently doesn't do his until the last minute. Dh and I despair!

The dts have been hard work this week. Dt1 in particular has been whining a lot. Dh has had the week off work as holiday because of the concert and his 40th (which was yesterday) and I think is more than ready to leave me with them go back to work on Monday!

Sokmonsta Fri 16-Nov-12 22:46:39

Mmmmmmm. Scrumpy. Does it mix well with todka? <pours large glass of chilled todka, kicks of shoes and curls up on sofa to enjoy peace and quiet>

I miss Devon/Cornwall. Not been this year because of twins/finances. Hope you have a lovely time, I am very, very jealous and tempted to start a countdown to centre parks break.

We're a couple of hours away from Ipswich. Nearish Peterborough (40 mins). Lovely rural village. School, pub no shop/post office/bus service church. Interesting tale that the village used to be called brimstone.

We're still poxed out here. Joshua and Emily's are drying out nicely. Poor Jennifer had fresh ones this morning. She is not a happy bunny sad.

<downs rest of todka and heads to bed to offer cuddles to the wailing grumpalump>

bubby64 Sat 17-Nov-12 00:13:47

Eeek! Don't know what has just happened here! One moment Dts and i were sitting watching CiN, having a little cry over some of the stories and the boys were remembering their angel baby sisters, and the help they had from a charity supported by the campaign after we lost them, and 10 minutes later M was arguing with DH and flew into a huge tantrum after and threw a pot of sudacrem at the wall so hard it split and we have white goo all over the livingroom carpet!!
Came almost completely out of the blue, and I just sat with my jaw hitting the floor! Anyone know how to get sudacrem out of a wool mix carpet??

triplets Sat 17-Nov-12 00:23:35

How sad am I I have nothing better to do than google this for you! Someone asked the same thing in a CHAT thread on MN in 2006! Two things worked. Hand hot water with washing up liquid or baby wipes grin

Sokmonsta Sat 17-Nov-12 09:10:07

Oh bubs! I'm staring at the pot of sudocrem on the table and imagining the mess.

Woke up (for the millionth time) time this morning. Did nappy changes and looks like Jen has infected pox. Would probably explain why she's maintaining a high temp even with calpol and ibuprofen (prescribed as I thought she shouldn't have it). Woke dh up to tell him I'd be ringing out of hours as soon as breakfast and bottles done.

I'm supposed to be on a hen night tonight, and before the 3 got ill I offered to drive people home. I'm driving as taxi far too expensive for me in my rural backwater. So now I'm torn between a meal with friends and a few hours to recharge, and not wanting to leave my poorly baby. The other two are fine. They'll be with dh so I know they'll be fine. But it's that mother's guilt kicking in. Oh well. Will see what ooh say and go from there.

Hope you all have lovely peaceful weekends planned.

rubyrubyruby Sat 17-Nov-12 09:21:59

You are not a million miles away from me sokmonsta smile I'm further south - think University City. Sorry to hear your DCs have the pox and hope you get your evening out.

shock at sudocreme. I hate that lovely evening and tears before bedtime thing.

Chops - how lovely. Are you just there for the weekend? Just the mentioning the word wine Devon dragged the lovely Momma out of the woodwork I see.

rubyrubyruby Sat 17-Nov-12 09:23:25

Bagpuss - I love the killers, how disappointing.

Morning girls xx

rubyrubyruby Sat 17-Nov-12 10:23:46

Morning Shabs xxx

I'm going to give you a hug because you deserve one and I could certainly do with one too. << bends knees a bit>>

Ta Rubester xx

<<drags some stepladders towards Rubester, climbs them and hugs her>>

bubby64 Sat 17-Nov-12 11:28:03

Morning. Baby wipes seem to have worked. Very contrite M this morning, now upstairs tidying room without complaint. J, on the other hand, has become Mr Hyde, and after hurling verbal abuse at me all morning for banning him from computer, Xbox, tv and phone until homework done and room tidy, is currently laying on his bed swearing and staring at ceilingsad. Mind you, to even make a small impression to the mess that is his room will take him hours!!
Soks - she will be ok for a few hours with DH, and if you take a phone, you can always warn other Hens they might have to make alternative tarrangements to get home if he rings and you have to leave early, I'm sure they will understand.
Shabs & Trips, can we make it a 3 way hug :-(

bubby64 Sat 17-Nov-12 11:30:49

Sorry, Shabs and Ruby, although I'm sure Trips coul do with hugs too!

bagpuss Sat 17-Nov-12 12:33:17

Ruby, yes it was annoying, but at least we will get to see them in February and the seats are the same ones, so hopefully we will have the same group of people around us at least. There were lots of very drunk folk there and I was glad none of them were near us tbh!

Bubby, here's hoping your carpet has now fully recovered from the mess shock.

Sok, poor you with the chicken pox to deal with, my dts haven't had it but the other three have and it was terrible. Ds1 had infected pox and ds2 still has a scar on his forehead where one burst green goo all down his face <<bleurgh>>. At least once it's gone it's gone and you can relax a bit.

Dh is making tapas for lunch and the kitchen smells gorgeous <<hungry>>. We are going to download a film in a bit I think, it is far too miserable to bother being outside today.

Sokmonsta Sat 17-Nov-12 16:01:26

Just a quick update. Thankfully they're not infected. Although out of hours sent us to the hospital for their Opinion. It's just they are so close together it's hard to tell whether the redness was normal or extended. The pus apparently is normal. Yuk. And of course Jen had managed to wriggle and pop them before we got there hmm.

Anyhoo, come away with canesten for her poor bottom and advised to continue with ibuprofen and calpol. Have to take her back if no better by day 10 as she is still having new spots come up (more came up between arriving at hospital and being seen!).

Am still going out tonight as I know dh is more than capable. He's worried about her too so won't let her suffer unnecessarily. He's just said he'll phone me if needed but as he also has a friend over, he can go out and leave friend with the others.

triplets Sat 17-Nov-12 19:46:40

Hope by now you are having an nice time Socky........such a worrying time when your dcs are poorly. Touch wood mine keep pretty well, never been ones for sicky bugs and rarely get a cold. I could always do with a hug, been plenty of the usual stress here today. I don`t know what it is in this house but supper time is always the worst. D`y think I`d make a good barmaid Shabs, need an evening job!!

triplets Sat 17-Nov-12 22:17:05

Having one of those days when I am pretty fed up with my life, things have got to change, feel used and unloved except for my boys sad

rubyrubyruby Sat 17-Nov-12 23:00:01

<<gives Trips big hug>>
sorry love sad

DH is home at last.

triplets Sat 17-Nov-12 23:24:51

oh to be young and in love................night night and glad your dh is home Rubes xx

Morning girls xx

You would be a great barmaid Trips - sorry 'stuff' is crappy for you....I KNOW the feeling my friend xx

Sokmonsta Sun 18-Nov-12 20:56:19

Evening. <hugs and large alcoholic drinks of choice all round>. Malteasers aren't open yet but will fling some your way when they are.

Soooooooooo tired. Got in just after 1am. Woken up at 4am. Running on empty/bacon sandwiches & macdonalds today. Jen still poorly but peaks and troughs - can literally see calpol take effect and wearing off. She's refusing solids and fussing with bottles.

Hope a lovey day was had by all, free from teenage angst and sudocrem.

triplets Sun 18-Nov-12 23:11:08

why am I feeling soooooooooo low? Someone pass me the Maltesers please?
Hope Jennifer soon picks up xx

MummyPig24 Mon 19-Nov-12 07:00:46

Hi again. I wish I had cake to share, or wine, alas I have neither! Would love twins, its amazing! So special. Me and dp were discussing the possibility of dc3 and he said he would love twins. Must be incredibly hard work though. I kissed goodbye to sleep, sanity and dignity long ago!

Morning girls xx

<<tries to climb into the electric meter cupboard to escape the never ending DS4's bloody coughing>>

Chopstheduck Mon 19-Nov-12 10:47:13

Morning girls.

<props eyelids open with matchsticks>

The farm was AMAZING! The guys that run it are so friendly and welcoming, we felt more like family members than customers! It was such a brilliant experience for the kids - they got a real taste of farm life, were involved in everything from feeding the animals, turning the ponies out, hosing them down and a bit of grooming, ride through the woods, dd even helped drench a sick ewe and dt1 retrieved a rat trap complete with the biggest rat I have ever seen!

Will def be going back again, and can't recommend it highly enough!

Now rushing around catching up on jobs, laundry, etc before off out 2n to Rihanna's London 777 gig!

Ohhhh our Lew would be so very jealous of you going to see her!! He lovvvvvves her!!

Sokmonsta Mon 19-Nov-12 16:32:46

<drops in a plate of freshly baked cakes and brownies and returns to feeding the twinlets> don't eat them all before I come back grin

bubby64 Mon 19-Nov-12 18:45:43

Hi all. Hade mr Hyde James all weekend, he has got yet another detention (number3) for not giving in homework, and has been told if he gets a 4th he will be in isolation for the day sad
Got in such a tantrum yesterday I developed an almighty migraine, and ended up having to take the morning off work.
Also gutted as I won the Mnet competition for a VIP trip to see the gypsy queens next Tuesday, and now DH can't get the afternoon/evening off work, and I can't leave work early enough either, so I have had to pass it on to the next winner sadsad

triplets Mon 19-Nov-12 23:25:10

Oh Bubby what a rotten shame, I love them too.................. xx

Morning girls xx

Got a 'snotty' email from school attendance officer yesterday - telling me about the importance of Tom not missing any more school....Oh I didn't realise how important it was - silly me!!! [anger]

I emailed them back (it was a long email) telling them that because my lad is a good lad who works hard he already has 3 GCSE's that he sat LAST year. Telling them how lucky they are to have him at the bloody dump of a school.

He almost had a meltdown this morning. He cant get his shoes on over his nail dressing - so I gave him his trainers and packed him off. Sent a note and just rang the headmaster telling him that Tom has to wear his trainers and IF there is any problem at all he will not like dealing with me in the mood I am in. He was 'sheepish' to say the least.

Fookin' school drives me mad angry

bubby64 Tue 20-Nov-12 09:25:59

Oh Shabs - I'm he will be ok in trainers, he's there isnt he?? If they send him home, refer the head to the attendence email....
Soks- sorry I didnt say that Im glad Jennifer didnt have an infection, I was wrapped in my own misery (again!) yesterday.
Trips- I know, really gutted, but thats how the cookie crumbles.
Chops- it sounds as if you had a great time!
Mummy - I love my boys dearly (even if I dont like them very much sometimes!) and we have met the challenges head on, but I wouldnt be without them. Multiples are a gift sent to show you you can cope with almost anything!!

The new headmaster is great - he just has come down very hard, since he got there, on uniform. Year 11 team said not to worry they will make sure he has a pass that he takes around with him. Not looking forward to the soaking of the toe when he comes home tonight. It looks like a Halloween toe at the moment!!

bubby64 Tue 20-Nov-12 09:31:39

I know all about that- I am dressing one of our security guards toe on a regular basis at work at the moment- he was stupid enough to miss some re-dressings at the clinic and managed to get an infection in his though.

Tom has had both nails done - just one side of them though - first when he was only about 9, then when he was around 13/14. He says that the full nail removal is nowhere near as painful. He has a small line that leads up from the edge of where his nail was - thats where the nail had 'grown in' yet again!!! It goes to just underneath his toe - he must have been in agony with it. When he gets home he will have sweaty teenage feet, the dressing will have worked its way off and it will be disgusting envy thats the colour my face will be when he shows it to me!! LOL

Chopstheduck Tue 20-Nov-12 12:14:31

Eww, sounds horrible! Hope he feels better soon, shabs and hope your James is behaving better now, bubby!

I am soooo tired. Rihanna was ace - shabs, tell Lew, Rihanna held my HAND! She was very good though,and we were right up at the front.

After 4 hours sleep I'm now in London again, taking jack and his best friend to a sports coaching day at the imperial college. They've done tennis with judy Murray (England coach) and cycling with sir Chris Hoy and now doing a bit of circuit training. Making me feel tired watching them!

I think I will be going bed very early tonight!

Morning girls xx

bubby64 Wed 21-Nov-12 22:06:15

I went on strike today. I have had enough of the fighting, shouting, slamming of doors and general upset that is life with DH and the boys the past few days. I have refused to do anything for anyone and spent the day curled up with my book and iPod and sod the lot of them! The boys got themselves off to school, came home and bought me a cup of tea and crept out again, saying they were sorry, then DH made tea and I have refused to speak to any of them until they all behave themselves. I know it was only one day, but it seems to have made a bit of impact on the males in the household to suddenly not have me laying out clothes, making lunch boxes, clearing up after them, doing dishes, cooking food and all the other things they just take as read will be done!!

triplets Wed 21-Nov-12 22:58:25

Well done Bubbs................I should be doing the same. Just had the most stressy time with dd again . Same old thing, she keeps bringing a particular friend home who then can`t be picked up until her parents finish work, around 7pm. DD was soooooooo rude to me when she came in I could have cried. I have had a long quiet talk with her tonight, but I could see she just was not listening. Went for appt with dk at the hospital on Mon, had to see the bowel surgeon. He told dk that the two hernias on his abdo have got to be done, it will mean a week in hospital and 6 weeks recovery. Prob in January...........I should feel mean but I thought......."a whole weeks peace". I just so need a break from life here, unless things changed..............unlikely!! xx

Morning girls xx

I don't know how you cope Trips - teenage triplets <<silent scream>> so difficult - its hard enough with one teenager in the house.

A weeks peace - ahhhhhhhhh sounds mighty fine to me xx

Chopstheduck Thu 22-Nov-12 07:24:40

Morning girls x

Good for you bubby!

sad Trips

For some very strange reason I seem to have my lovely, thoughtful, helpful daughter back. Not sure how, or why, but I'm making the most of it! It was getting to the point where I really didn't like her much, then this week she has been absolutely lovely. Maybe the weekend away did her good!

triplets Thu 22-Nov-12 09:30:49

Goodmorning, foul weather here. Well dd was abit sheepish this morning and without a word from me she put a coat on for school. A small victory!!

Sokmonsta Thu 22-Nov-12 20:26:17

Evening! Day from hell, couldn't wait to get the children to bed! Emily went back to school today = overtired 4 year old. James has had a major change of staff at preschool (lots of very unimpressed parents) coupled with him being lost with Emily not having been at school, his routine has completely gone to pot and he's had one day long meltdown! The only thing which kept him even was playing Thomas games on the iPad. Until the battery died!!

Twins have been okish. Jennifer bless her has slept most of the day. Not taken a lot of her bottles so she may be coming down with something else or expecting teeth to pop through. But hey ho. Joshua has reacted probably to James' constant wails by joining in. Was so glad to get them all in bed and they were all asleep within minutes. Having a few minutes peace and some tea before Operation Tidy-up commences.

Sokmonsta Thu 22-Nov-12 20:28:43

Oh bubs and trips! Hope you both have had better days today. If not, maybe book yourself a weekend away and let them get in with it sad. <hands out biscuits, chocolate and generous measures of todka>

rubyrubyruby Thu 22-Nov-12 22:05:56

Sokmonsta - that really does sound like the day from hell!

I hope everyone who is having a hard time has a relaxing weekend.

I am lurking on reading the thread but really have taken on too much work and haven't much of interest to say tbh.

Things are calming down, someone has put the bulb in at the end of the tunnel so now I just need to find the switch smile

triplets Thu 22-Nov-12 23:19:05

You will be booting me off of the thread soon for what I am about to say.
"God I am so bloody fed up with life atm".
Today looked promising, Becca put a coat on.
Then a big disappointment, my lovely youngest brother txt me to say his wife had found out his plans for her 50th b/day party. We were all looking forward to a family meet up for 24 hours in Durham, we were all coming up from Deal, got everything booked. She is hysterical and has made him cancel everything, she does not want to be 50!
Then my other two local brothers phoned up and took me out for the afternoon................it was really nice.
Got home at 3.45pm and dd had come home alone.............then she tells me that Dad says she can go into town at 7pm with 2 friends to see the Christmas lights go on, its gale force 7 and they were walking.
Then another brother who lives local (I have 4 brothers, no sisters) phoned at 6pm to ask what was going on re the 50th party. So told him, he said my brother should have known better, that my sil did not want a party she wanted to be whisked away for a surpise w/end abroad. My brother cannot afford it, he has no money of his own. I said I just can`t understand her, she has a husband who loves her and wanted so desperately to do something for her, as did her best friends, they had arranged a stretch limo etc. He then said that his wife would have been the same, she too was 50 in June, she would have hated a party. I asked why? What reason did she have for not wanting to celebrate with her family and friends who all loved her and wanted to make it special. His answer was that my sil did not want to be 50. I know I should not have got angry, but I just felt that rush of anger, and the tears followed as I said that I thought they were both being stupid as they both look 40, have their health, have no worries re money and looking after young children and should celebrate every birthday as they may not be here tomorrow. I then was almost choking as I said that Matthew only had 14 birthdays, he would bever celebrate his 18th/21st/40/50th etc and they should make the most and enjoy every single one and be thankful. He was shocked I think and we hung up.
Then dd`s friends phoned at the very last minute to say they had decided not to go into Deal to see the Christmas lights and would I tell Becca they were sorry.
She was told then slammed her bedroom door on me.

I am thinking of putting an ad in the Lady.

Mature lady with gsoh seeks live in position.
Not good with men or children.
Can cook, enjoys a drink and stimulating adult company.
Wages negotiable, previous post unpaid.
Used to working very long hours.

rubyrubyruby Thu 22-Nov-12 23:43:52

So sorry you are having a bad time Trips sad but grin at your ad.
Your words to your brother were so true - they both deserve a kick up the arse tbh.

I'm up with the woofer - she is scared of the rain <<rolls eyes>>

Morning girls xx

True words Trips....very true words. Most people dont know how very lucky they are xx

Chopstheduck Fri 23-Nov-12 07:02:32

Morning girls x

Sokmonster, hopefully it is just teeth, hope they are all better soon, seems to be dragging on now.

Trips, come away with meee - I'm off to Brum next weekend for the Good Food Show!

I've been busy busy. Friend got rushed to hosp earlier in the week, busy with kids and school runs, and trying to catching up with the comping! Had FOUR wins yesterday grin ds1 is very happy - five tickets to the rugby on sunday.

Now where is that harrogate mum? I have tickets to a food show up there that need giving away, must have entered by mistake!

bubby64 Fri 23-Nov-12 18:18:36

Oh Trips- love your ad, and I totally agree with you re living life to the full.
Well done Chops - sorry to hear about your day Soks, Ruby, lets hope you are finished soon.
J had a minor meltdown yesterday, but he is not feeling too well today, so has been cuddly rather than combative. I hopeful that the weekend will be better, as I start my long hours next week, and don't need the stress.

piximonplus5 Fri 23-Nov-12 20:22:06

I have finally found you all. Not been using my laptop for ages and phone wouldn't let me log in. I finally found 5 minutes to sync accounts.
All good in the pixi household. Dts will be 6 at the end of year. 6!!! Where did that time go? smile

Chopstheduck Fri 23-Nov-12 22:39:32

Oh pixi! How are you? I was thinking of you last weekend when I made my trip down to Devon! Aren't you south west somewhere?

Bubby, fingers crossed for a good weekend!

triplets Fri 23-Nov-12 23:00:19

Pixi <<picks up and hugs>> about time too..........6??????? Where did that time go too............seems only y/day. Would love to go to the food show, love love cooking and all that goes with it. Well just to rub salt in me and dk supposed to be away tomorrow pm, up to Hertfordshire for nieces 40th bash, booked hotel. This morning James came down and said he didn`t feel well, so went back to bed where he stayed most of the day. He hasn`t eaten and has a high temp. The two boys are supposed to be staying with one of my brothers who lives alone and is looking forward to having them. He has severe heart problems so I have been abit iffy asking him to have them. DD arranged to s/over at her friends, the one she keps bringing home here. At 8pm tonight the friends mother phones to say she can`t go as Alice has the same bug as James! Am I fated or what?? Options are

1. Ask my brother to sleep here.
2. If James is not better I stay and have suggested dk take dd to the party.

Feel too worn out atm to sort out anything else.
What should I do?

triplets Fri 23-Nov-12 23:04:42

Bubbs poor J too, hope he feels better tomorrow.
Rubes my cat Molly adores the rain, even a good thunder storm, she sits on the decking and loves it................oh speaking of her has made me sad for Ollie, I do miss him xx

triplets Sat 24-Nov-12 08:06:04

Goodmorning girls............awake with the birds and a head full of gremlins. Been on here Christmas shopping, easier these days than trawling around the shops. Can`t believe the kids will have broken up in 4 weeks, how time flies. Now to sort out what I am going to do this weekend!

rubyrubyruby Sat 24-Nov-12 08:39:18

How is James Trips? Better?

I would ask your brother to come to you x

Chopstheduck Sat 24-Nov-12 10:27:28

Morning girls x

I'd ask your brother to come over trips.

If you are free next weekend, you really are welcome to come, trips! I have free tickets, food theatre tickets to see john torode and greg wallace host a celebrity cook off and a nice hotel all booked - a win from last month grin

rubyrubyruby Sat 24-Nov-12 10:56:16

Oh Trips!

You MUST go with Chops grin

Morning girls xx

TRIPS - You HAVE to go - you would love it.

Hope James soon feels better xxx

rubyrubyruby Sun 25-Nov-12 08:58:37

I'm assuming that as trips failed to show up with the trolley didn't post last night she made it to the party smile

rubyrubyruby Sun 25-Nov-12 08:59:21

Excuse my manners blush

Morning xxx

Chopstheduck Sun 25-Nov-12 09:14:25

Morning girls x

Morning girls xx

bubby64 Sun 25-Nov-12 18:41:08

Evening Girls, Trips - hope you got to the party, and you MUST go with Chops to the cooking thing. Sounds like your James and mine had similar illnesses.
Hi Pixie, welcome back.
Shabs, Chops and Ruby- hope you had a good weekend.
Fairly quite here, only a couple of small outbursts here from James, one about homework , 1 about parental controls on Internet devices (he wanted them removed, I said no way!), otherwise fairly quiet here.
Trying to avoid anything to with Christmas until after their birthday next week, DH sorting out Mikes, he wants a Hornby train set, has wanted one for years, and is still set on having one, I have got to organise James, he wants a laptop, it will have to be a reconditioned one, anyone got any ideas which company is the best to order one from. I wont have the cash to do so until next Friday, but that still gives me a little time.

Sokmonsta Sun 25-Nov-12 21:31:41

<stomps in>

Evening ladies. Back in a bit x

rubyrubyruby Sun 25-Nov-12 21:35:32

<<puts kettle on>>

<<plumps cushions and awaits sokmonstas return>>

Sokmonsta Sun 25-Nov-12 23:28:19

<tea, white, 2 please ruby thanking you muchly>

<returns in a slightly better mood>

Trips, definitely go with Chops. It sounds fabulous and scummy. Hope you got to the party and had a good time.

Well, today has been interesting. Joshua has found his knees and has been kneeling in the inflatable ring, bouncing up and down on them. I think he's realised he's safer in the ring as he didn't try to escape properly until James went to nana and grandad's. Jennifer had been quite content to sit in her chair and watch the goings on.

Emily has been ok this weekend. Yesterday we went to the park, my sister and youngest niece came over, we took my neighbours middle girl and other friends met us there. Was great fun in the pouring rain! Kids came home soaked but happy. Also invited next doors girl over again today do she and Emily could play. They're in the same class at school.

Was informed this week that Emily had been chosen to play Mary in the school production. She will also be Mary at the christingle service. I'm made up although a little gutted that I don't get to make her first costume (school provide one). She also has no lines, so good luck getting her to keep quiet smile

I just don't know where I'm going wrong with James at the moment. There's been a lot of changes for him even very recently. Last Monday preschool had a major change of staff and one of the loveliest ladies was told she was no longer working there. Ofsted popped in on Friday and had concerns. It's a shame really as this lady has never been anything but open in telling us she wasn't supposed to be over there permanently, was just until they got more trained staff etc. but the preschool management just let the situation carry on. James doesn't go on mondays and I'm grateful for that as the lady was apparently told once she'd started work and had to leave in front of all the waiting children. A lot then got upset so their parents took them out. And went to see the head.

All thats happened now is they have bank staff in to cover the lack of their own staff as one is off sick and the manager has also now had to go off. Thankfully last tues/wed Emily's class ta was there and James recognises her. But I had to ask who the other women there were. they were stood at the back of the room, talking amongst themselves and oblivious to the children coming in. Very uncomfortable. But I'm sure hmm James is fine once I've left - I don't leave him until he's playing now as he clings to me until I can distract him enough. He's always pleased to see me at home time.

Then there was him having pox and missing preschool, everyone else going down with the pox so Emily not going to school while James still did.

I think he's struggling again with the twins. Joshua is sporting a lovely bruise on his eyelid. Jennifer has one on the side of her headblush both from James poking/throwing things.

Today James seems to have decided to pour water into the tv hmm not entirely sure it was him as I was in the loo at the time. But Emily swears blind it wasn't her and she's not the type generally to do things like that. So I now have a buggered tv.

On top of that dh has gone to help a friend move house tonight. The bastard wasn't even ready/finished packing. So it's going to be a long night for them.

Anyway, rant over. I've had shed some tears today. Helped me feel better. I thought I was doing so well until now. Tomorrow is another day. Onwards and upwards.

Morning girls xx

Sokmonsta Mon 26-Nov-12 08:49:22

Morning! <trills whilst rushing dd out the door>

triplets Mon 26-Nov-12 09:57:59

Goodmorning girls..........just off to stock the larder, did go to the party under a clloud. Will fill you in later.............. xx

Sokmonsta Mon 26-Nov-12 11:41:12

Sleeping twins & sleeping husband = a little bit of precious me time for sokmonsta. smile

Oh trips!

bubby64 Mon 26-Nov-12 12:49:23

Morning all- Soks - it does sound as if your James is having some issues with his newest siblings, it must be hard for him as he has been supplanted as the youngest by not 1 but 2 siblings who have needed a lot more attention than you would normally give to a new arrival. Its not your fault, that how things go, but still very hard on him. I hope things settle, and he will start to enjoy his pre-school again and also not be so hard on his little brother and sister. Is there any way you can organise things with DH or friends/relatives so you can give him some more "mummy and me" time? Asking an awful lot ,I know, but maybe just a special hour or so on a regular basis will help.
Trips- waiting for the update with a mixture of dread and bated breath, things obviously didnt go as planned!

Chopstheduck Mon 26-Nov-12 17:50:53

oh dear soks!

Rav and Shay were always destroying things when younger, we ended up paying for accidental damage cover on the insurance. One of the worst times was when shay managed to get the lid of a 5l tin of gloss paint shock

Bubby, have you looked at Dell's website? They always used to have good reconditioned laptops.

rubyrubyruby Mon 26-Nov-12 21:42:56

Where's Shabs?

<<checks behind sofa>>
<<checks Facebook>>

hmm

I bet she is giving Virgin Media hell! grin

rubyrubyruby Mon 26-Nov-12 21:47:41

Things sound quite tough at the moment sokmonsta.

I think Chops is right, obviously not your fault but some time one to one is a good idea. A child often needs our love and understanding most, when they deserve it least. Give him time x

oooggs Mon 26-Nov-12 21:48:23

Evening ladies

Hope all is as well as it can be!

rubyrubyruby Mon 26-Nov-12 21:51:42

I didn't mean your time btw - just time in general.

I know I used to worry about behaviour at different stages and in a few weeks it had passed and there was something else to worry about! because it was just that - a stage.

triplets Mon 26-Nov-12 22:52:00

Grrrrrrr just typed humungus message and it disappeared so you are only getting a shortened version <<who said Thank God ?>>
Cinders went to the party, my brother stayed here.
He told me when he came the other brother had been up to see him and had steam coming out of his ears about me. He said I had "slagged" off his family and there was going to be a big bust up. He said I had no right bringing Matthews name into it. He apparently said alot of very very nasty things and that they would not be speaking to me again.
Of course it upset me, I was in tears so phoned them immediately to try and sort it out. It was their answerphone so I left a message saying I did not intend to hurt my sil but I stood by what I said and if they felt that way I was sorry.
Appalling drive up to Herts in heavy rain.
Put on my face and Cinders went to the ball and got very very drunk, first time since I was 21!! Apparently I danced all night and kept asking the dj for requests blush
The next morning as I struggled through a full English b/fast I got two long txt messages from the upset brother. He said there would be no falling out, not to worry about it, he understands why I get upset. He then went on to say how difficult this year has been for him, mentioned many family things inc watching our Mum "decay". I am going to sound very cynical, but I know him so well..................I did not feel it was sincere. So, thats how its been left, I am upset and just need some distance from them because I still feel angry inside about that section of our family. This is when I so miss my Mum, she was always the other end of the phone sad
I am not going to say anymore, I am very hot headed and I get very emotional about things, thats me......

and this is the shortened version?

triplets Mon 26-Nov-12 22:56:27

Chops thank you so much for the invite but the boys have heavy ATC duties this w/end and I have to show my face like the good Mother I am <<says through gritted teeth as I am a huge Masterchef fan>> Twas really kind of you and under diff circumstances I would jump at the chance. thanks

Morning girls xx

Well done Trips for standing your ground - I am proud of you.

I just have one sibling - my brother who is 4 years younger than me. At Dan & Ems wedding I kept imagining Danny having 3 best men....all dressed the same. I did really well - mainly because it was a registrar wedding without soppy songs to make me upset!! My Mum never mentioned my lads....nobody did. Later in the evening I saw our David dancing with his little grandaughter. He came over and said what a great day it had been. I said (and I was not sad or crying) wish ALL the lads could have been here - that would have been wonderful. He shrugged his shoulders, pulled a weird face and said 'They couldn't our kid and you have to get that into your head!!' Would have appreciated no words and a hug much more!!

Chopstheduck Tue 27-Nov-12 08:18:01

Morning girls x

Aww, was hoping could finally get to meet you, trips!

I've had sleepless night. Just when I thought the school were ok with Jack not going on the residential, i get an email late last night from the HT <sigh>

bubby64 Tue 27-Nov-12 15:38:49

Trips - thats the trouble with brothers, mine are just like yours, We are all proud of you for standing your ground. I have already had a stand up fight with my elder over mum and Christmas, and my younger has been very conspicuous by his absence in all important matters lately.
Chops - are they having a leach month at the moment, augh!! As you said, I thought it all sorted.
I have had a letter from the school about the yr 7 residential, they want £180 each child for 4 days(3nights) camping 25 miles away! They want all to attend, but I have said I cannot afford it, they want the £30 deposit next week, and then £30 a month until May. I have emailed the head teacher and said that I, like the 6 other mums of twins I know in yr 7, cannot afford £60 a month at the moment. She emailed back and said thanks for bringing it to her attention, and she will "work something out" with us.

bubby64 Tue 27-Nov-12 15:44:38

I need Christmas pressie help everyone!! Mike has wanted a Hornby set for years, and, this year, we were going to get him one, along with a table and all the accessories with help from grandparents. I went to order the one wanted on line from Argos, and it is out of stock in our area, and also out of stock for delivery. There is some scattered aroung the country, but they dont know where! Can any of you lovely ladies check in your local areas, and if we find one I can see if Argos can transfer it to my local store.
The product number is 462/2628 a Hornby R193 Blue Rapier train.

Sokmonsta Tue 27-Nov-12 16:21:26

Thanks ladies. I know he's struggling badly with the babies as he always starts throwing/pushing when I'm feeding one of them. I've got the travel cot out today to use for time out after he threw a bell while I was feeding Jen and then refused to say sorry/stay on the time out spot. Figured it will stop him running round/away. I managed to rip his coat yesterday trying to stop him running away when we were in a shop so he's also going back on reins.

Have spoken to my mum today. She's going to help me out with a couple of hours a week where she has the babies while Emily is at school and I just have James. I can take him to the library for story time, or maybe some of the sure start groups. Or just have time with him and I. He so desperately needs it.

Dh still seems to think its more than just a reaction to circumstance so I'm speaking to our hv anyway when I go to clinic on Monday, arrange for one of them to come round while dh is on a rest day and let him do all the talking. Figure if he's going to grumble then all i can do is put him in touch with the appropriate people.

My sister said to me that Emily was the same as he is. But then Emily didn't have to share anyone at the time. James arrived just 5 months before my sister's youngest so he's been sharing everyone and I can see how that could make him stroppy (I get narked when my sister hogs mum angryenvy) dad is being more supportive of late though. Thankfully James is into trains so can spend ages sitting on his lap watching clips of steam trains on the pc. Dad is glad to have another man about the house smile

Am happy on two notes though. Been selected for a couple of product tests. Looking forward to those coming. Also won a fan prize of something unknown on twitter for being one of the first 50 respondents. So I may be skint and tearing my hair out. But there is delight to be found in small packages.

bubby64 Tue 27-Nov-12 18:45:25

Glad you are having a better day Soks, yes, a little "quality" time may help. Also, the men always seem to think something more is "wrong" with a child who is not behaving as perfectly as they think they should, I have had to direct my DH to several threads lately to prove the behaviour of my two, especially James, is actually not as bad as some other parents are contending with, even though it is driving us mad!!!

bubby64 Tue 27-Nov-12 18:47:37

By the way, thanks to the power of MumsNet "chat" I have found the train set grin

thegirlinthesassyspace Tue 27-Nov-12 18:55:19

Hi there I am a new mum of twin girls, and have been chatting on mumsnet about these early days of feeding and bein up nights,...basicallt struggling!
My midwife keeps saying I am doing brilliantly as both babies have put on weight within 10 days and are doing ereally well.
I dont know why I feel so "at sea" and worried.
I guess its the nights as they scare me when I cant settle either baby for hours.
Ive started to dread the nights and miss having time with my dh alone even though he helps me a lot, it just feels different, like the times not our own anymore.
Dont get me wrong I love the little uns to bits but I'm slightly overwhelmed is all!
xxx

rubyrubyruby Tue 27-Nov-12 19:03:58

Great Bubby - I did check quickly when I got on from work but none here. Didn't have time to post though - or now!

triplets Tue 27-Nov-12 22:36:10

Welcome spacegirl, we love to have new victims lovely Mums of 2/3/4 or more! But did you bring cake, its compulsory, nothing fancy just lemon drizzle or chocolate fudge..............oh and wine, red/white/rose, and er nuts, yes nuts...............but not just any nuts.......M&S nuts covered in Belgian milk chocolate. As you can see our needs are few. grin

triplets Tue 27-Nov-12 22:37:43

psst..........Rubes.....you forgot to say hello to the newbie......

bubby64 Tue 27-Nov-12 22:49:30

Welcome thegirlsassy (sorry, shortened your name, hope you don't mind!) The early days are hard, you feel as if all you are doing is feeding, changing or getting things ready to feed or change, with very little time for yourself, especially sleeping! Also, it is suddenly "full on babycare" and no more time for you as a couple. It does get better, and soon you will get both the babes and yourselves into a routine which does help. My midwife told me when the boys were little "routine, routine, routine, get one and try to stick with it to remain sane" as soon as I stopped the on demand feeding etc, and fed and cared for them on a schedual it did get easier. Others may have different advice, but this worked for both me and several friends I made with twins at the time. Here are some thanks for you . Oh, and if there is a "twins/multiples club" near you, try to join, talking to mums who also have more than one does help, whatever people say, it's not the same as having two with a gap between them. Good luck and welcome agai to the boards, we do love new victims members!grin

bubby64 Tue 27-Nov-12 22:51:27

Trips - Spacegirl is a much better nickname, well done!

triplets Tue 27-Nov-12 23:33:36

Good advice Bubbs.........................routine is the key! Of course its hard work, you get very tired but omg what I wouldn`t give to have my three back to little babies..............it was the most adorable time. I agree it is very diff having 2/3 the same age, but its also 2/3 times as rewarding. Joining a group is good, always good to get out and about and mee new like minded friends. Just try not to worry that you are doing the right/wrong thing. Just do it as you feel is right, for you, them everyone..............and snatch time for you............here is something to get you on your way wine xx

triplets Tue 27-Nov-12 23:38:10

Meant to say Bubbs we live 30mins drive from the Hornby shop and factory nr Margate. Its a great place to visit as they have a hands on showroom that was opened a few years ago by James May. My dh still has his Hornby trains that his Dad got for him many many many moons ago. He stored it all in a Hoover Box which in "those" days was made of wood! Glad you got it!

Sokmonsta Wed 28-Nov-12 05:01:23

Morning ladies.
Hello Sassy - it does get better. Promise.

Well 'quality time' has just been 10 minutes of snuggles with my little monster smile. House at relative peace. Joshua stirring/wailing a little. But gentle snores everywhere else so been cuddled up. Not quite sure how he got out of the bedroom but can only assume I didn't close the gate properly

Chopstheduck Wed 28-Nov-12 07:19:19

Aargh jsut typed a long post and lost it! Now I know how you feel, trips!

Morning girls.

Hello, sassy, glad you made it over! grin I do think you are doing fantastically, having twins first time round must be such a huge adjustment. Do whatever works for you and don't feel bad about it. Routines never worked for me (the babies refused to coorporate) but getting out and about helped a lot. Do you have anyone around to help and give you both a bit of a break?

Bubby, glad you found it! My dad is still mad about trains at approaching 60! grin He has a huge 00 set up and is now starting up a smaller gauge one. Freegle can be good for picking up bits, and aren't you in east anglia? There is a fab shop at snetterton on the old airfield.

Sokmonsta, glad you managed to make some time for James, some time for jsut the two of you sounds great, I'd ask him what he wants to do.

Morning girls xx

thegirlinthesassyspace Wed 28-Nov-12 08:04:49

thanks for all the support
am currently bf one (having swapped them over) while jiggling the other in her chair
she is grzzly but not crying, is that a good sign? last night she wouldnt settle but wasnt completely crying either (we'd changed her, fed er, cuddledher etc)...she eventually settled herself and went fast asleep
that was difficult as I'd not let her grizzle before without going to her (she has a problem with thrashing even when fast asleep!)

thanks for the wine, welcome and the welcome!
How do I put these smileys into my msgs?
xxxx

rubyrubyruby Wed 28-Nov-12 08:22:28

Hi spacegirl - please excuse my manners (sorry Trips blush) but we kind of x-post last night and I was midway coming in/shouting at DC/going out again grin

I don't have much advice re little ones as I have eradicated it from my memory it was a long time ago.

Smileys? They work like this [ smile ] (but without the gaps) full list underneath this box I'm in now.
<<does man in a box voice a la that welsh bloke>>

rubyrubyruby Wed 28-Nov-12 08:23:40

Rob Brydon! - that's the one.

Chopstheduck Wed 28-Nov-12 09:08:51

I used to swaddle mine. I'm convinced that after being snuggly tight in the womb they felt insecure with all the space around them. You can do it wiht a muslin cloth so they don't overheat. They still loved it until they were nearly a year, when we would practically have to get a foot in there to do it tight enough! grin

Sometimes, if they are bit grizzly though, all they do want is a bit of peace and quiet to fall asleep rather than being disturbed.

<<who's Rob Brydon?>>

Sokmonsta Wed 28-Nov-12 09:52:27

Pmsl I remember angry man in a box smile

Plan of action today is tidy damn house (this am while home start is here) and this afternoon, pop babies and James down for a nap. Wake James but let babies sleep on a bit. Have decided I can get more James time if I put babies back in their routine rather than letting them fall asleep in their chairs. Then we can have some time before picking Emily up from school. There are some lovely Christmas makes I want to find time to do with them all so planning now. Perhaps I've just missed the routine and planning that I had to do for work. And now the meds are working properly, I'm seeing things much clearer too.

Chopstheduck Wed 28-Nov-12 11:01:42

glad the meds are kicking in a bit.

Does James like 'helping' with the housework? Can cover two things at once then! Shay has always loved being let lose with a duster from a very early age.

thegirlinthesassyspace Wed 28-Nov-12 16:35:29

did anyone find a sure start volunteer a help in the early days?
another twin mum (who I'm now going to go with to the Hungerford twins club - great suggestionn thanks :-)) suggested I ask the health visitor to refer me to one...any extra help for when hubby goes back to work would be great!
Thanks for all advice on routines and breast feeding too all
I have a routine, and gradually (well feeling slightly better each day I guess) feeling less frightened about this sometimes not going to plan...and not panicking too much...
Also, am mixed feeding, with today going quite well on bf front, even managed a tandem feed for a while..so feeling more confident about boobs learning to produce enough in time. Had a 3.5l post birth bleed at the hospital, so am sure it has affected how much milk has been produced in these early days.
sorry if i'm repeating self...! and thanks again all...I will check in again soon...just going to enjoy 30 mins of down time before next deadline ...oops I mean FEED!
smile
thanks

thegirlinthesassyspace Wed 28-Nov-12 16:36:03

ps. i do have lemon drizzle cake in cupboard and so pass you all a virtual slice
smile

Chopstheduck Wed 28-Nov-12 17:03:53

I had a home start volunteer, she was lovely! She helped me manage the twins for Jack's appointments. He has disabilities, so I was always traipsing back and forth with him. She was also a ear to listen to me, as I had recently moved to a new area and left my friends behind. I'd def go for it. I also used to go to Home Start toddler groups, which were great, there were play workers for the children, so the mums could relax a bit.

Did they not give you a transfusion for the blood loss? I lost a lot of blood, plus was pretty anaemic, so I had two transfusions which made me feel quite a bit better.

Chopstheduck Wed 28-Nov-12 17:04:04

I had a home start volunteer, she was lovely! She helped me manage the twins for Jack's appointments. He has disabilities, so I was always traipsing back and forth with him. She was also a ear to listen to me, as I had recently moved to a new area and left my friends behind. I'd def go for it. I also used to go to Home Start toddler groups, which were great, there were play workers for the children, so the mums could relax a bit.

Did they not give you a transfusion for the blood loss? I lost a lot of blood, plus was pretty anaemic, so I had two transfusions which made me feel quite a bit better.

Chopstheduck Wed 28-Nov-12 17:05:07

how did that happen?!

<<kicks computer>>

<<takes slice of lemon drizzle and offers spicy devon venison stew with fluffy coriander dumplings>>

Morning girls xx

Tom took himself to bed at 7pm and he is still there - hasn't woken up!! Awwww his first time sleeping right through the night, without waking even for a few minutes hmm mind you he is 15!!

Sokmonsta Thu 29-Nov-12 07:55:28

James' idea of housework is to tidy up, the tip everything out again! But he's adorable while he does it. Have a lovely video of him with the dustpan and brush going 'sweep, sweep, sweep' as he brushes up.

I have a HS volunteer. She came to us when the twins were about 3 months old and has been invaluable. She entertains the babies, feeds them etc while I get on with housework. Yesterday morning I managed to get loads of stuff up in the loft and put the Christmas boxes together ready to come down. Last week I did a load of batch cooking for the babies and got our tea in the slow cooker. She is good company as well so we have lovely adult conversation going too.

Had a lovely evening out minus kids last night. Went to see Rhod Gilbert. I've not laughed so much in ages. He is very definitely my favourite comedian at the moment. Probably because I can empathise with his desire to complain about everything, no matter how trivial.

triplets Thu 29-Nov-12 08:53:27

Morning, its cold enought to freeze the balls tail off a brass monkey! I don`t do Winter.................brrr
I had a HS volunteer too, she was a 50yr old retired school teacher and was lovely. 15 years later and we are still in touch. She stopped coming when they were about 9 months old, but still came across to ee us and once sh had the kids over night for a s/over!
Shabs shock Tomster slept all through the night? I so remember the early days............
My James has gone back to school today, hopefully he last the day, was really poorly.
Suppose I had better get on..........<<picks up book and heads back to bed>> grin

Oh yes Trips!!! Remember our late night phone calls when our lot were about 2 years old? You: Is he still awake? Me: Yep You: He must have had a long sleep during the day then? Me: Nope!!! grin grin

I used to worry myself sick about it until my wonderful HV said (after studying the night time diary I had to keep) 'If he was mine I would throw him through the bloody window!!'

Somehow, once she said that I felt much better grin

rubyrubyruby Thu 29-Nov-12 09:03:12

<<staggers in resembling the Michelin man>>

Cold did you say?

I will seriously headbutt the next person who says 'the fresh air will do you good'

Chopstheduck Thu 29-Nov-12 10:37:37

Soks, that sounds adorable, I'd let. I'm help just for that!

Ruby, tell me about it. I'm off to town, and will shortly be cycling over Waterloo bridge, prob with icicles hanging from my nose. I don't DO winter!

bubby64 Thu 29-Nov-12 10:47:32

Soks - I'm glad you got some James time, and also that you are feeling better.
Spacegirl - Just hang on in there! and yes, it does get easier, although challanging in different ways, I also agree with the others re Home Start. I also had a HS volunteer, from when the boys were about 5months until they started nursery school, and we still went to all the HS trips and partysuntil they turned 5. She was also a lovely semi-retired teacher, and we are still friends with her, the boys adored her! She just gave me the chance to catch up with things, she loved ironing, and always did that for me (and I _loved her for that as i hate ironing with a passion!) We are actually seeing her next week for coffee, and she always gets a christmas pressie from us!
Shabbs - Now you need to see if you can sleep all night too!

bubby64 Thu 29-Nov-12 10:51:08

Oh, and I also had a big blood loss and had transfusions, have they checked you Hb(red blood count level) recently to see if you have made any up, or if you still need a couple of units of blood? I agree with Chops, you do feel so much better after they replaced the loss.

bubby64 Thu 29-Nov-12 21:03:00

Arrggggghh Just run out of heating oil!! I asked DH to check 3 weeks ago as I thought we were running low, and he said yeh, ok, I'm sure we are ok tho.angry
Well, he can't of checked, as I have come home to a freezing house and no hot water and a very empty oil tankangry angryI knew i should have checked myself.sad
I am hoping to get an emergency delivery of 100ltres from a local small volume supplier as the company we have a budget account with can't deliver until next Wednesday!!
We have in laws coming to dinner on Sunday for the boys birthday to a freezing house and no running hot water (our immersion heater went bang in the spring and we couldnt afford to fix it)

Sokmonsta Thu 29-Nov-12 21:03:28

Tv has been collected! Hopefully with the next ten days we will either get it back repaired or replaced.

Typically I picked Emily up from school. James started playing up (climbing on the back of the sofa and dismantling our Olympic coin collections). Threw a plastic ball at Jen, refused to eat tea. More than likely all because I couldn't devote every second of time to him as I was trying to feed the babies, trying not to break my neck on a billion cars spread about the floor and sort the veg for tea. But it was still a better day overall and he is currently zonked in bed. Preschool all day for him tomorrow and town lights switch on in the evening so hopefully he'll be so well occupied he won't have time to make mischief.

bubby64 Thu 29-Nov-12 21:29:16

Soks- Glad you are getting the TV sorted, and also that, although hectic, your days seem to be getting a little better, and you also seem to be a bit brighter.

triplets Thu 29-Nov-12 22:15:33

The one thing I know for sure is this

"Nothing ever stays the same"..............always remember that when times are stressful.

Have to be out by 8am, Rebecca is having her braces fixed at 9am in Canterbury, we will be in for a wingeing w/end and their school is off on Mon for staff developement day...............bloody joke as they are all being made redundant next year............grrr don`t let me get started on that one.

Chops did you watch Britains Best Baker channel 4 @4pm Mon -Frid? I stupidly missed it and wondered if its being repeated.
Loved Masterchef tonight, my two favs got throughsmile

Think I forgot to tell you about Ollie my lovely missing cat. Heard y/day from the lady who runs the cat sanctuary that she tracked down the elusive gardener who took away the dead cat from the garden around the corner, found the day Ollie went missing. We were told she had taken this cat to a vets and had it scanned, it was not micro chipped so it gave us hope as Ollie is chipped. Well she didn`t, she simply took the cat and put it in a container at the local tip..................from her description it was Ollie sad my poor lovely boy to end up that way.

Morning girls xx

Chopstheduck Fri 30-Nov-12 07:58:20

soks, glad you had a better day

bubby, fingers crossed for the emergency delivery!

Trip, so sorry to hear that about Ollie, hope it wasn't him.

I missed that program, tried hunting for it, but couldn't find it. Is it Britain's Best Bakery on ITV? It's available on catchup here I watch lots of tv online while comping, so will have to have a look at that!

I'm a bit behind on Masterchef. DH likes that as well, so I have to wait until we both get chance to watch it. There are so many good cookery programs on atm, the sky planner is full of them! I really like Ottolenghi - he did a program on Israeli food, and is now covering the mediterranean. Plus, Spice Trip is another new one. And we're watching Jamie Oliver food in 15 minutes. Bollocks to the 15 mintues part, and it creates a PILE of washing up, but some of the food is tasty.

Made the san francisco salad earlier in the week. Blackened chicken (allspice and smoked paprika) with mango, feta, avocado on a bed of quinoa (didn't have any in, so used couscous instead!) mixed with blended spinach, coriander, spring onions, chilli and mint. Was very tasty and the kids loved it!

Chopstheduck Fri 30-Nov-12 21:13:41

<<offers round vino and raclette>>

My house stinks of gruyere! Though I won't be around all weekend to smell it grin

Decided to take dd with me. She really has been lovely lately, and deserves a treat and so we will have a girls weekend.

rubyrubyruby Fri 30-Nov-12 21:29:18

Lovely Chops smile

Have a great weekend x

Sokmonsta Fri 30-Nov-12 22:22:22

Flies in to announce the twins need glasses!!!!

Off to the land of nod. Early and busy day zzzzzzzzzzz

triplets Fri 30-Nov-12 23:56:09

Have a fab time Chops, lovely to take your dd with you.......tea at Betty`s or maybe tea at HM`s.............she has been absent of late!!
OMG just noticed......special Scottish smileys.........why? Have I missed something?
DD is not a happy bunny with her new brace, she says she can`t talk.................nothings stopped her beforewink Still I felt sorry for her as it must feel ghastly to begin with, awkward for eating, so treated her to a whole tub of Ben and Jerrys cookie dough ice-cream, her fav! Long w/end now as they are off on Mon..............three lie ins.............bliss!

Sokmonsta Sat 01-Dec-12 08:14:18

Scottish smileys for St. Andrew's day trips

Yesterday was another hectic bit good day. Took the twins for their Opthamology appointment. I'd had Joshua referred as we think he may have a squint. As there's family history they referred Jennifer as well. Ended up coming away with a prescription for both babies! Jennifer is also long sighted. Not as much as Joshua (or Emily - hers are +6.5!) but enough that they don't want it to worsen. Joshua may or may not have a squint. He's got what they call a pseudo squint at the moment, because he has a broad nose. It may or may not develop into a squint. I'm hoping we've caught it early enough as all the children have the same broad nose and Jennifer and James definitely do not squint in anyway way, shape or form.

So today we are off to sort glasses hopefully. We tried yesterday but the man we needed to see was on holiday. He should hopefully call us this morning to make an appointment.

We went into town to see the lights switch on. Babies were so excited by they slept in the pushchair the whole time smile

James was good. Helped probably by a friend coming with us, so one person per child and one with the pushchair. He enjoyed a carousel ride and spin on the teacups (or tea pot as he called them). They were both thrilled at Father Christmas driving past.

Emily also has a party to go to. I'm so proud as its her first 'school' party and I'm dropping and running. Seemed appropriate now she's away from me all day at school.

Other than that its a trip to the inlaws ironing fairy and tidying the house ready for the elves to visit in a few days and then get the decs up. Listening to the brass band playing carols last night has properly put me in the mood.

rubyrubyruby Sat 01-Dec-12 08:35:33

Awwwwww Soks

Your excitement is leaping off the page. Glad you had a better good day. It's days like that, that make it all worthwhile smile

Morning girls xx

Chigertick Sat 01-Dec-12 14:55:19

Hello everyone - hope you're all ok - I've been lurking again with not much time to post smile
Congrats to you Spacegirl - you sound like you're doing brilliantly - just to second (or third!?) the swaddling mine loved it. We used super soft Moses basket sheets at first then moved onto swaddle pod types before finally transferring to sleeping bags when they were around 9 months.

Poor you sokmonsta it sounds as if the preschool "business" could be a factor - how awful for everyone involved. I hope that things settle down.

Sorry to hear about your difficult time with your family trips- mine all live abroad and DHs family are conspicuous by their absence!

We've had 3 weeks of wellness which must be some kind of record in our house! Fully expect it to all go downhill from here till Christmas!
With being well though comes toddler mayhem - emptying the soil from a plant pot over the floor, their toys and each other grin

We've also been busy creating Christmas cards and decorations - everything is now liberally sprinkled with glitter.

Work has been manic I only work 2 days but definitely do more than my fair share at home too (unpaid) sad

Hope you all have a good weekend.

triplets Sat 01-Dec-12 22:52:20

Glad you popped in Chiger sounds as though you don`t get a minute! Wasn`t it cold today, been really stocking up on bird feeders etc. Poor Molly my cat was beside herself this afternoon, I emptied the bird bath and filled it up with bread and bird seed. About 10 magpies and half a dozen crows descended followed by at least 20 seagulls!!! All hell broke loose withe the racket they made, Molly was throwing herself at the window and chattering her teeth grin
How can it be festive smiley time again..................seems to me time flies even when you arent enjoying yourself!!

bubby64 Sun 02-Dec-12 19:15:39

Hi all. Our oil was delivered Friday lunchtime! We were so lucky, our usual supplier had another delivery in the village already booked, and they had enough room on board for us to have some as well. Only problem we had was that the pipe was drained and we had to prime the boiler again, luckily DH read up on how to do it, and managed it without us having to call in an expert, which saved us £50!
We have celebrated the boys birthday today instead of on Tuesday, as we thought (rightly) that we would never get them away from their presents. They LOVE them, Mike upstairs dumming as we speak, and James strumming away on his guitar. Grandad came and bought them a cake (a Thomas Tank engine one, DS's dont want their friends to knowgrin)
We will decorate, do cards extra on Tuesday anyway, but the main present opening is out of the way, I have a special cake coming for them, I hope it turns out ok, and if so, I will post photos. Then its on to decorating for Christmas next weekendsmile
Also, got my operation date, 16th January, so going to a pre-op physio appointment Tuesday, and normal Pre-op appointment next Monday. Now getting a bit nervous about the whole thing, as it is now becoming "real" IYSIM.
Trips - we daren't do bird feeders here, as the cats sit on the fench with their knives and forks at the ready if we do, its bad enough when our neighbours fill theirs.

bubby64 Sun 02-Dec-12 19:17:03

That should say Mike is drumming not dumming, hmm I don't know tho....

piximonplus5 Sun 02-Dec-12 21:51:56

Trips sad for Ollie. hmm

Haven't stopped this weekend but seem to have got nothing much done. Took the dcs christmas shopping and managed to squeeze in a cinema trip, but that about sums it up.

Off to plot some mischief for our elf to get up to...

triplets Sun 02-Dec-12 22:47:54

PIXI PIXI PIXI get yersen back here!! We need a reunion, too many have gone astray.......

<<Trips rushes off to do the invitations and hopes Chopster will help with the food............makes note to shampoo the shag pile>>

Morning girls xx

Sokmonsta Mon 03-Dec-12 07:31:47

Morning!brew <to warm the cockles>

Chopstheduck Mon 03-Dec-12 07:42:59

Morning girls x

We had a lovely weekend. Show was fab, bought lots of nice goodies, picked up two bags full of goodies from the people I won the weekend away with, dd and I tried oysters for the first time. Greg was rather tipsy during the show, and very funny! Then afterwards we went off to the pub for a nice meal before back to the hotel for a movie, with lots of chocolate! The hotel was very nice - a rather nice walk around a lake to get to the NEC, and breakfast was lovely.

bubby, glad the boys loved their present, are you going to post some pictures!

Soks, glad things are going a bit better, hope you had a good weekend?

Trips, hmmm food? What shall we have?
I think going to spending most the day in the kitchen today in any case. DH wants indian food, so making various curries, and either a stack of roti (very soft thin, small chapatis) or fresh garlic and corinader naans. Plus I got some flavourings from a cupcake stall at the show, and going to try to make some rhubarb and custard cupcakes! grin

I cant 'do' Christmas. The fookin' tree is so big it is touching the settee Im sat on - I hate it......

BUT I realised last night when Tom got giddy to see the tree, that I am spoiling it for him. He might be 15 but he loves this time of year. I stood in the kitchen washing up and left him and DK to it.

My shoulders are around my ears, my jaw is aching and Im itching all over?????

<<slaps her own face very, very hard>>

Right!!!! Smile has to be pinned on and I have to get involved. I AM FINE, I WILL BE FINE AND I WILL LOVE XMAS....I AM FINE, i WILL BE FINE AND I WILL LOVE XMAS....I AM.............................

bagpuss Mon 03-Dec-12 09:18:58

Morning! Reading and lurking, I haven't much to say but promise I will catch up properly at some point xx

Chops, glad you had a good time with your dd, it sounds fab.

Shabs, we are currently debating where the tree should go. Dh doesn't want one at all hmm.

Chopstheduck Mon 03-Dec-12 09:21:11

We also have tree issues! Dh wants a real one, but I not sure we got the space. Our usual tree is slimline and so fits in a smaller space.

Sokmonsta Mon 03-Dec-12 14:51:49

Better weekend. Shit Monday.

rubyrubyruby Mon 03-Dec-12 15:06:36

Oh Trips - sorry to hear that it probably was your lovely cat sad

Sok - glasses! Cute.

I hate cooking Chops I don't like food much tbh

<<passes Shabs the other end of a cracker>>

<<looks at Rubester and slowly sets light to her end of the cracker>>

bubby64 Mon 03-Dec-12 16:27:00

Boys want a real tree, DH and I dont, I remember the last time we had a real one, and all the needles fell off on Christmas Eve, so there was I, faffing around undecorating the lifeless bunch of twigs, getting the fake one down from the loft and re-decorating that for Christmas morning! I swore this would never happen again!!
Just has M on the phone, yelling down it I have broken his drums! I moved the frame of them out of my way and put it against the wall this morning, now they dont work! Either a lead has come loose (possible) or he had dialled the wrong sound into the drum for when its played, (probable) I have said to leave things alone until after DH gets home to look and see what is wrong, it will be something really simple, I'm sure [fingers crossed emoticom]Considering that set has been in and out of my van, in and out of mums spare room, and in and out of the caravan (where it was hiddden), I cant seee how moving it 2 ft and putting it against a wall has damage it.confused.

Chopstheduck Mon 03-Dec-12 20:34:22

Bubby, that is exactly what I worry about! Hope the drums are ok.



Don't like food shock


Sooo sleepy! Zzzzz.

Chopstheduck Mon 03-Dec-12 21:04:25

Rather late courier has perked me up! Delivered jacks Christmas present - Chelsea ball signed by NINE players! Was only expecting John terry to sign it, so I am very happy - cannot wait to see his face on Xmas day grin

rubyrubyruby Mon 03-Dec-12 21:33:56

The football sounds great Chops.

Hope the drums are ok Bubby!

I don't not like food - I'm just not that bothered by it iykwim. If I'm busy it can easily pass me by, I don't get hungry really and hate feeling full.

Definitely an eat to live person me.

rubyrubyruby Mon 03-Dec-12 21:38:10

We have a real non drop tree every year.

Open the French doors and chuck it out in the garden every January and usually end up taking it up the tip around May time when we get the barbecue out and discover it lurking up the corner grin

<<stuffs singed fingers in a bowl of cold water>>

triplets Mon 03-Dec-12 23:04:40

<<Trips falls into bed..............exhausted after a days shopping with the trio>>
Teachers day off so decided we would have a nice family day out............went up to Stratford Int on the fast train from Dover, left at 8.45am and was outside J Lewis before they opened at 10am! Massive mall, not sure I like that kind of shopping, really prefer a city to mooch about in. Gave the kids some dosh and off went the boys leaving me with dd as dk wanted to "wander". She moaned and groaned and snapped, I got 9 txts from Thomas within an hour asking when lunch was and where lunch was going to be!! Gave up finally and we all met in the food hall, Thomas appp had already been to McDonalds for a burger and to Costa Coffee for a latte!!!! Cost a fortune taking them out, bought them all new jeans each and I managed 25 mins in Waitrose food section...............my treat. Sounds as though you and dd had a fab w/end Chops, I would love to have gone, but dutifully I was out in the freezing cold watching my drummer boy!

Morning girls xx

HMum has a weird status on FB - she is in Vancouver and her husband is in hospital? I hope everything is going to be OK.

Chopstheduck Tue 04-Dec-12 07:42:45

Morning girls x

Just checked that out, shabs - hope he is ok!

I quite liked stratford. been there a few times - once to go swimming at the olympic pool, and once to meet three very nice american football players! grin I love the burritos from the mexican place there.

My fav place for shopping is London's west end though. One the advantages of have a son with disabilities - there are even blue badge spaces outside Harrods! grin

Sokmonsta Tue 04-Dec-12 10:29:42

<puts kettle on, grabs biscuits>

Aw poor HMum. Hope everything is ok.

Glad everyone seems to be slowly sucumbing to the festive spirits

I've been organising and reorganising the house slowly. Am being very ruthless and if it's not been used in a while it's going in the loft. Ready for the post winter clear out up there. Amazes me what we've got up there. Was quite happy to find a brand new set of gloves and hat for Emily that we'd paid 25p for a few years ago. They now fit her smile

Took the twins to clinic yesterday, and bumped into my lovely midwife while I was there (I think she hangs around to see all 'her' babies on clinic days). The babies now weigh just over 18lb (Joshua) and 16lb (Jennifer) at 8 months so they are doing nicely there, despite a refusal to eat while they had pox. Told them the babies were getting glasses, at which there was an audible sigh of relief from them. One of them was going to ask me if I'd noticed anything about Joshua's eyes. This was followed with me telling them how disappointed I was in the male HV I had previously raised it with to get an opthamology appointment, and was told they were too young, and that I had pursued it myself elsewhere!! Needless to say it will be fed back to him that when a mother has previous experience these things need to be followed up sooner than later.

Joshua is doing absolutely fine but the niggling concerns I have had about Jennifer being so much more behind have also been higlighted by the HV (I let her check the babies out before I said anything). I have to make a GP appointmet for her as the HV says there is more movement in her joints than they would expect to see, especially her ankles and may be why she doesnt weight-bear very often at all, or for very long when she does.

We also spoke about James while I was there. I explained we were struggling with him and DH and I were having a conflict of opinion over him (which really isnt helping). I asked if they could visit one day when Pete was at home and that has been arranged for just before christmas. She was a little concerned as it has been raised before and there's been no real change. Oh joys! Still, my little livewire clung to me like a limpet at preschool drop off. He wasn't crying or anything, just asking to go home. Broke my heart but he needs to get used to the new staff there. His key worker was in today and he eventually let go of me when she got the thomas the tank engine toys out for him.

Otherwise I am still feeling the festive mood, got the christmas songs on the music channel, list of ingredients to buy for baking and so on.

Happy festivities to everyone

Sokmonsta Tue 04-Dec-12 10:30:32

Chops how did the rhubarb and custard cupcakes turn out? I need to know!

Chopstheduck Tue 04-Dec-12 12:35:57

sokmonsta, sounds very hectic, but that midwife does sound lovely and glad you are getting things looked at. My Jack has 'more movement' in his joints, along with his various other things - in his case he has hypermobility in the majority of his joints. If it is that, it can slow down development a bit as the muscles need to strengthen to support the lax joints.

Jack didn't walk until around 16 months irrc, but he does have other problems too - low muscle tone and developmental co-ordination disorder which together with the hypermobility which will always cause him some degree of difficulty. He is quite proud of his bendy joints though, and delights at making me feel queasy by bending things the wrong way, or double crossing his legs!

Chopstheduck Tue 04-Dec-12 12:42:59

Oh and the cupcakes - really well, I was surprised! Only thing is next time, I need to colour the sponge a bit darker, to get a proper deep pink. It was rhubarb sponge, custard frosting and crushed rhubarb and custard boiled sweets sprinkled on top. Piccie on profile!

bubby64 Tue 04-Dec-12 20:52:45

Hi All - Drums were ok, just a programme problem as I thought!
Pictures on profile now.
Soks Like Chops Jack, my Mike has hypermobile joints too, and took longer to get going than James, but got there in the end! You sound like you have a great midwife, wish i had had the same.
Trips sounds too hectic for me, I must admit, I prefer mooching around the older town near us (Bury St Edmunds) rather than big malls.

Morning girls xx

thegirlinthesassyspace Wed 05-Dec-12 09:13:43

morning,
i have been following your chats - nice to see everyone so festive ! - and I thought I'd check in today. 2 and a half weeks with new twins and still v challenging, but at least got some sleep the last day (have a new system where I go to sleep at 7.30pm til 9.30pm before night-time dramas).
I was wondering what you thought of a comment my HV made last week. I was meeting her for the first time at home and I explained how exhausted I was, being shellshocked by the time it takes to care for twins and how little sleep you have to get by on. She has asked me to see GP to discuss anti-depressants.
I was disappointed by this, and thought maybe she was covering her own back by making sure she advised this. I think feeling exhausted and shell-shocked is pretty normal after 1.5 weeks of having twins and following severe blood loss ibn hospital. I just wanted someoneto moan to, but she's made me doubt my self by making the comment about being depressed!
Anyway, registering the twins at the GPs today so will meet him then and discuss it anyway, but still feel slightly uncomfortable about it all! Defo don't want anti-depressants, maybe just some reassurance :-))
Anyway, hipe you are all getting into the spirit of xmas. We had a little photo with our babies with santa in his grotto - obviously more for our beenfit than theirs (they were aslkeep!) but was nice to do something normal and xmassy!
xx smile

rubyrubyruby Wed 05-Dec-12 09:25:25

What do I think of that comment?

Fecking disgusting! That's what I think angry

What you are feeling us totally normal and in my opinion if you had said 'everything's lovely and great ' <<fixed smile>> you would be far more likely to actually have depression.

It is hard, it is daunting and I bet your HV has never had twins

thegirlinthesassyspace Wed 05-Dec-12 10:16:00

ditto angry
thanks rubyrubyruby

Morning girls xx

rubyrubyruby Wed 05-Dec-12 10:47:31

You been back to bed Shabs?

I have a day off because of snow

No love - was up at half 6 as usual - The Hairy face fooker (Richard Branson) and his team of <<searches for a polite word>> engineers have been doing 'essential maintenance' in our area. Everything went off about half 7 this morning and has just come back on!!!

bubby64 Wed 05-Dec-12 13:16:33

spacegirl I agree with ruby, she was covering her back. Did she actually go through the questionaire designed to see if you are at risk of depression, or just make her comment on what you said? Baby blues hit about now anyway, and you will be very tired and overwhelmed with it all, so no wonder you are a little down,but you dont soundn clinically depressed. She is just another of the usless HV that are around I guess.
Snowing here this morning, boys hoped for a snowday, but they just delayed school start until 10am, so they got a bit of a relaxing morning, but not the whole day as hoped!
shabs - our local electricity board has just sent us advance notice of "interupted supply" for the 18th December! trust them to schedual maitenance during the lead up to Christmas!!

Chopstheduck Wed 05-Dec-12 17:52:42

afternoon girls

No one should try to diagnose over the net, but sassy, I agree with the others, you don't sound depressed to me at all, twin babies is just bloody hard work, and the hormones are twice as bad! I think you are doing great, just take it a day at a time.

The dts attend a church school, even though they are Hindu - no choice in the matter around here, so yesterday i had to request that they be excused from the usual xmas church service.

In the email I was told -

'We are a church school so the good news of Jesus’ birth will be expressed in readings and carols. Pupils will share music, art and dance.'

AIBU to mention that she might be a couple of thousand years late with that good news? hmm

She granted them an afternoon off anyhow. <bites tongue firmly and writes grateful thank you email instead>

I do wish education was mandatorily secular.

thegirlinthesassyspace Wed 05-Dec-12 18:51:32

Where is it snowing chops?
thanks all for support re: HV
bubby64 she didn't go through the questionnaire. But I know the one you mean as the GP talked me through it later this morning. Its fine - as it showed I am just anxious about all the new crazy life with twins, and not depressed in a clinical sense. the GP is a nice man, talked about his own kiddies who are small and how tiring it is with them ...though obviously not like it is with twins!!
Well just about to enjoy a steak (trying to boost iron levels!) before i pop off to bed.
Hope you all have a good evening and looking forward to your weekends
xxx
thanks

Chopstheduck Wed 05-Dec-12 18:56:17

Glad the gp visit went well.

Think it was rubes that said about snow, and that would be Cambridge. Just sleet and frost here (Ascot), though the kids got prematurely excited when they saw a white garden this morning!

triplets Wed 05-Dec-12 22:34:19

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d`y like my snowflakes?
Went up to my Tiny Tigers this morning and it was bedlam! The student teacher was being observed and I was her assistant! We made real bread rolls, I was covered in flour, we had a birthday boy who was hyper and then it snowed..............and snowed.................and snowed......everything was abandoned as they all rushed to the windows...........oh the excitement! As they weren`t allowed out at playtime sad they watched a video.............yep, The Snowmansmile Made me feel Christmassy smile

Spacegirl feel very shock and angry what a thing to say. To even have time to pop in here is amazing............grrr what do they know??

triplets Wed 05-Dec-12 22:35:55

Spacegirl......it was thick snow here in Deal nr Dover!

rubyrubyruby Wed 05-Dec-12 22:36:30

I thought of you today Trips as I did my ironing. I was watching that 'homes by the sea' programme and it was round you way smile