D'ya ever wonder where all the other mums of multiples are?

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bubby64 Thu 04-Oct-12 13:05:26

....or have we scared them all off with our inane chatter and multple moans!

<<sits her lardy bum down on the settee>> <<puts her bottle of white cider in the fridge>>

bubby64 Thu 04-Oct-12 17:04:00

And we wait to see who turns up! <<plopping own large behind down beside Shabs, hopes sofa is sturdy and adding kettle chips and rollmops to the trolley>>

Chopstheduck Thu 04-Oct-12 17:07:19

I guess no one want so share my venison steak with blue cheese sauce then? grin

<<puts white rioja on ice for later>>

<<has second thoughts and pours glass out already>>

This week is dragging and I'm sure it should be Friday by now?! Hey bubby, any news on the car and getting it repaired? Seen the pics on facebook, it's such a beautiful car!

TheMightyRubester Thu 04-Oct-12 22:40:11

Ah

Is this where we are now then?

<<runs finger along sideboard checking for dust>>

triplets Thu 04-Oct-12 23:14:58

Ah ha............this is where you all got to, who said you could take my trolley shock. Now I can tell you where all the other mums of multiples are, they are at home where they should be, looking after their offspring, not flopping on sofas, kicking off shoes onto the shag pile and filling the fridge with wine instead of baby milk? What I am trying to say is, should we not occasionally talk about our multiples? Right, that said here goes...................er.....um............oo I wish I was planning a road trip, we have done one in 91, one in 93 with Matthew and the big one on 2007 with the trio. This was our last one.
San Fran-Modesto-Yosemite-Death Valley (takes 8 hours) Vegas-Williams-Grand Canyon-Sedona-Palm Desert-Anaheim.
Williams is fun, we stayed at The Red Garter Saloon, former bordello, its on route 66. Take the steam train from there to GC, great fun!
After Matthew died Harry and I went over and flew to SF, then over to Saulsilito, then into Sonoma, wine country, lovely. We have also done Lake Tahoe, amazing and gold country around Columbia. Many many happy memories.
What about a MN meet up in San Fran..................wouldn`t that be awesome smile

triplets Thu 04-Oct-12 23:21:04

Also done drive down to LA from San Fran, very pretty, stopped at Hearst Castle, def worth a visit, Monterey, Solvang, Madonna Inn, Santa Barbara, San Luis Obispo, San Diego, Palm Springs and the beautiful stunning Joshua Tree State Park. There isn`t lot you can do in Death Valley, in July/August really is too hot to step out of the car! Just my fav place on earthsmile

shock we have walked almost identical paths around USA.....we were offered work in Santa Barbara, love San Louis Obispo....too weird for words - we rode everywhere on the Greyhound bus - taking care to sit at the front and not with the local nutters at the back grin

triplets Thu 04-Oct-12 23:49:58

what year Shabs? I always sit on the back of the bus grin

Went with my Mam & Dad for a month in 1972 then for two weeks with DK about 1979 and then me and DK lived in Utah for six months in 1980/1981

Chopstheduck Fri 05-Oct-12 06:33:56

<<frantically scribbles notes>>

I don't think we are going to get time to be able to drive the coast ib between sf and la, sadly. I've seen pics on google and it looks stunning. Really could do with about a month there!

I can't find Williams on the map. Only one near SF, not near the canyon. Palm springs is where dh's cousin lives, lucky git!

Dh really wants to go to Lake Tahoe, but we would only have time to visit the south side of it, is it worth it? Seems that all the best bits are further north from my research.

Morning girls xx

triplets Fri 05-Oct-12 15:15:31

Williams is Arizona, we went there from Vegas. I`ll find a link for you for the hotel.

triplets Fri 05-Oct-12 15:17:10
triplets Fri 05-Oct-12 15:21:44

duh...........wrong
www.redgarter.com

triplets Fri 05-Oct-12 23:18:53

<<Trips looks in and wonders why its so tidy, shag pile still fluffy, glasses dried and put away.......hmm wonders if there is another meet up somewhere that she hasn`t been told about............reheats chips from chip shop, leaves homemade shallots, pickled eggs and lashing of bread and butter>>

Morning girls xx

Chopstheduck Sat 06-Oct-12 07:25:47

Morning girls!

Oh that place looks lovely trips.

lovely miserable weather outside and no plans whatsoever for this weekend. It's gonn abe a long one!

bubby64 Sat 06-Oct-12 13:56:41

Hi all - only done NY and the disney areas here, tho would love to do more.
Chops - update on car is that the insurance wrote it off as financially un-repairable, as they got a quote from the accident repairers was for a whopping £17,000shock, but they were not really interested in repairing it and quoted a stupid figure so they wouldn't have to do so. We have had a quote from someone who knows what they are doing with amarican classics for £9,000.
Our insurance states we get the car back for free, and this chap now has the car, and we are waiting for payout from the insurance. They are being awkward, and saying the car is not worrth the insurance value, and we are contesting that at the moment, as we again have had an expert who said it was actually under-insured , not over! The battle continues - insurance companies are quick to take the money and really slow to pay out!!

dawnpreview Sat 06-Oct-12 19:02:17

Can I join you?
I have twins (and wine!)

<<Hovers in the corner, hoping that someone speaks to me>>

KateShmate Sat 06-Oct-12 19:07:10

I have triplets and rarely go many places without them, but the times that I do I nearly always see another mum with triplets! I give the 'knowing' smile, then forget I haven't got my trio so poor mums probably think I'm a total weirdo!

We've got quite a few friends with twins, but none, so far, with triplets!

<<waves to Dawn>> Fancy sharing the wine? grin

dawnpreview Sat 06-Oct-12 20:13:09

As long as you don't mind swigging it out of the bottle Kate! smile

Chigertick Sat 06-Oct-12 20:17:18

Hope you dont mind another newbie - Can I flop on the sofa too? I have 19 month old b/g twins.

GupX Sat 06-Oct-12 20:19:35

Hi (removes fake moustache)

Tis I, ZippysMum.

DTs are now THREE!!!!

Where did those years go????

grin

bubby64 Sat 06-Oct-12 20:39:08

Hi there Dawn, Katies, Tiger and GupX. You are very welcome on here. I am the mum of 11yr old twin boys, and I am sure the others will be here to introduce themselves soon. We tend to talk about our lives with the DC and our lives and families in general. Just sit down for a gossip really.
There have been numerous "D'ya ever wonder" threads,this was the last one

KateShmate Sat 06-Oct-12 21:10:13

Bottle, straw - I'm not fussy Dawn !

Ha, sorry bubby I thought this post was a genuine question - I honestly can never find any other multiple mums in RL! What a wally! grin

triplets Sat 06-Oct-12 22:45:55

<<Trips takes out the curlers, kicks off slippers and dons apron..................OMG we have visitors.......panic.............looks in pantry, rustles up a selection of canapes (leftover from last weeks meetup) and dashes into shed for dh`s home made raspberry wine>>
blush forgets her manners.................."Oh please do come in, no need to take your shoes off.............the shag pile has seen worsegrin

TheMightyRubester Sun 07-Oct-12 08:11:36

grin @ 'the shag pile has seen worse'

It most certainly has Trips.

Welcome all smile I don't need to change out of my pyjamas do I?

Morning girls xx

<<peels her tongue from the roof of her mouth>>

It is all Chelles fault - she made me drink grin

Chigertick Sun 07-Oct-12 10:01:52

Definitely no need to stand on ceremony - I just want a little corner where I can sleep close my eyes quietly smile

<<yawns, stretches and scratches her bum>>

You can have this corner if you want!!

Chopstheduck Sun 07-Oct-12 10:12:52

Ooh well done bubby, you're new title has lured in lots of fresh victims newbies!

Welcome, everyone! I'm a mum of four, dd is 12 (hormonal preteen going on 16), ds1 is 10, has sn (HMS, DCD, some sort of ASD, currently being assed for ADHD - were collecting the alphabet! grin) the dts are 7 and prob the easiest out of the lot for now.

<<stacks the trolley wi bacon sarnies and a pot of tea>>

Do hope you get the car sorted bubby, they will try it on, just don't take no for an answer. When dh wrote off his fiesta we rejected two quotes before finally getting something nearer its value.

<<burps and tastes cider>> Ewwww I am dog rough this morning.

Got any brown sauce for them bacon buttys Chops?

Chopstheduck Sun 07-Oct-12 10:43:13

<<sighs and tips the hollandaise down the sink and replaces it with hp>>

I dunno, these Northerners hmm

grin

LOL xx

triplets Sun 07-Oct-12 11:14:32

<<sprays Febreeze around to disguise the smell of kippers>>

triplets Sun 07-Oct-12 11:16:08

Shabs, I would never have put you down as a pj sort of girl.........I`m a nightshirt girl myself.......

triplets Sun 07-Oct-12 22:47:58

Aw c`mon girls...............looking forward I was to some company...........newbies...........anyone??

TheMightyRubester Sun 07-Oct-12 22:55:31

I'm here Trips

....... I'm bloody knackered - but I'm here x

triplets Sun 07-Oct-12 23:15:49

Ahhhhhh Rubester, por quoi et vous knackered?

triplets Sun 07-Oct-12 23:31:09

Guess you`ve gone to your bed...............night night all xx

Morning girls xx

Was too cream crackered to lift an eyelid last night Trips!! x

Chopstheduck Mon 08-Oct-12 07:45:43

morning girls x

Chopstheduck Mon 08-Oct-12 08:23:03

I gonna be on the radio in ten mins for a comp - eeeek!

Absolute if anyone wants to listen!

ooooohhhhh good luck Chopster - <<crosses fingers tightly>>

Chopstheduck Mon 08-Oct-12 08:56:01

I didn't win sad

Apparently he called me 'posh kelly'!! I guess they thought I didnt need it the prize. But I am getting vouchers smile

Would love to be called 'posh Shabba' hmm cant see that ever happening!!!

<<goes back to shouting and insulting Lorraine Kelly on Daybreak>>

Chigertick Mon 08-Oct-12 09:57:00

Sorry I posted and then really did try and find a corner to sleep!

Have had 2 weeks of very sleepless nights as DS has an ear infection an ongoing occurrence. Except this time instead of treating it with anti bios as usual we had to experiment try giving a very low dose which was supposed to last for 2 months.
He has obviously been in agony - bloomin doctors.angry Finally got the proper dose over the weekend and sleep and peace restored for all!
It's a very rainy morning here but we're meeting my BF and her DD for our tots that rock group and lunch.
Have a good day everyone!

Chopstheduck Mon 08-Oct-12 10:01:01

aww poor boy! glad he on the mend now.

Sokmonsta Mon 08-Oct-12 10:16:56

Dips toe in gingerly to say "Hi"

Confesses to having a 4yo Dd (at school grin), 2yo Ds (at Nana and Grandad's grin, and 6mo B/G twins (asleep in pushchair after school run)

House is a tip but I'm enjoying a late breakfast before tidying up the detritus of mass christening yesterday.

shock sounds like you have your hands full Soka.....dont you just love how many people say that to you grin

<<watches the news and gives Osbourne the 'finger'>>

Im thinking of starting a revolution against the Government - anybody interested lol.....there's just me in my living room (of course with my blinds closed?????) sat on my lazy benefit claiming arse bum at the moment!!!

Mr Osbourne I will have you know that I dont have blinds in my benefit claiming living room....but I will draw my curtains if you carry on!!!

bubby64 Mon 08-Oct-12 11:15:21

Hi All, (again) Kate, no need to apologise, we are all on the lookout for new victims friends who are in the same boat as us, as you can see, we all have kids of variing ages, and there is usually someone who can say "been there, done that" with problems/questions about living with multiples and the headaches they cause , as well as life in general.
Shabs - I heard on the news Osbourne was intending to stick it to the poorest in society who can't complain, instead of his 'friends in high places', I take it he is going on about how well off those on benifits actually are... like to see him live off of them for a month or more, and see how he changes his tune.

bubby64 Mon 08-Oct-12 11:17:58

Sok, My house is a tip, and I can't even blame a christening, just living with 2 preteens and a DH who often behaves like one!!!grin

Chopstheduck Mon 08-Oct-12 11:18:22

Infuriating isn't it shabs. I don't have blinds neither, wots that all about? I'll join you though I'm sat on my benefit claiming arse too. Ds1 will also join, he's only 10 and already claiming benefits, got him started good and early! grin

wow, sokmonsta! I had similar age gaps with my four, it's just a blur now!

Chopstheduck Mon 08-Oct-12 11:19:41

I'd like to see him spend a day using a wheelchair, in pain and not able to stand and then see what he thinks about DLA 'scroungers'

bubby64 Mon 08-Oct-12 11:29:05

Chigertick one of my 2 had recurrent ear infections when he was young, he had small 'tubes' everywhere concerning ENT, ears, eyes, the lot, so had stents put in his tear ducts and grommets in his ears, also had tonsils & adenoids out, and has been fine since then <<touching wood>>, but I can sympathise, as it seemed to go on forever at first, the feeling of endless days and nights of unhappy, grizzling child is so hard to cope with when you can't help them moresad

Oh aye he is prattling on about how lucky us dole dossers are. Would love to have one attempt at punching him in the face or kneeing him in the nuts grin

triplets Mon 08-Oct-12 11:55:25

He`d need low slung nuts with your short legs Shabs (said in posh accent) grin
Welcome to our new victims friends, did you bring cake??

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Trips....remember 'Its not the size of the dog in the fight its the size of the fight in the dog!!'

<<realises she has just called herself a dog and hopes no bugger else notices>>

KateShmate Mon 08-Oct-12 16:04:02

Ahh hahaha thanks bubba !
No cake am afraid triplets , but I would say that it was a sensible time to start on the wine?

Well I will do you a little inventory of my children.. smile
3YO triplets,
a 5YO (just started school)
and a 6YO
All girls!

That's about it for me!

<<hides in a corner trembling at the thought of daughters>>

Chopstheduck Mon 08-Oct-12 19:05:41

<<hides behind Shabs>>

5 girls, wow! I've always found my one daughter incredibly hard work! I have a deal on with Shabs to swap her for Tom but Shabs ran away

Are they all very girly? Dd was into pink, dresses, etc a that age but now toying with emo stuff- eek!

KateShmate Mon 08-Oct-12 19:43:27

Ah see I would find boys really hard - we do girls best ;) 99% of people always ask 'Ooh I bet you're desperate for a boy', but we're so used to girls that we wouldn't know what to do with a boy!
Its funny how my girls are all so different really Chops
DD1 is girly but not 'pink obsessed' which is nice, loves crafts and dressing up but more than happy to get her hands dirty!
DD2 is crazy - a total tom boy! When it was that crazy torrential rain/flooding weather, we stuck her outside in her swimming costume - she loved it!
DTrips aren't particularly girly or tom-boyish really, pretty similar to DD1 - one minute they want to dress head to toe in pink and shower themselves in glitter, the next minute 'girly toys' are 'babyish'!

bubby64 Mon 08-Oct-12 19:46:33

WOW!! Hats off to you Kate, never will I complain about my two again... no, take that back, I don't think not complaining about my two would be possible...Just wait til they are teenagers...all that PMT in the same housegrin<<shudders at the thought>>>

Chopstheduck Mon 08-Oct-12 20:06:24

They sound fab, Kate!

Bubby, that's mean! My first thought as that too though! grin dd can be so hormonal already. She can be very sweet sometimes too though.

With the boys, hormones just usually equals them beating the crap out of each other, and I can put headphones on and leave them to it grin

<<plonks down dutchapple cake, courtesy of ds1 - its actually rather good!>>

KateShmate Mon 08-Oct-12 20:12:11

Oooh don't remind me - stuff the PMT, think about the shopping money they will all want!
And all the sleepovers, and the teenage strops and back-chatting! ....

Chopstheduck Mon 08-Oct-12 20:34:35

Ooh just wait til they discover Primark!

triplets Mon 08-Oct-12 22:49:22

ADVANCED WARNING
Triple trouble teens, they are going to be the end of me.
I am in bed with my shoulders up round my ears with stress.
Dd against my wishes brings a friend home from school.
They disobey me and clear off in the pouring rain in their uniforms, no coat.
The friends mother phones ranting where is her dd.
Then boys friend turns up.
Girls return.
I now have 5 x`s 14yr olds in the house.
The walls are shaking to My Chemical Romance.
The walls and cat are pitted with BB bullets by boys friend Harry.
Mother turns up to collect daughter, goes off in a huff.
My dd says "God, what the hell, why are you all so mean" and storms off upstairs.
We all eat supper whilst friend Harry plays x box, he apparently is locked out until his mother returns from work.
BB`s are being fired from the bedroom window.
Dh loses it and asks friend to take his gun and himself home.
He does neither.
All four teens sit in the kitchen watching Simpsons.
Peace at last, we settle down to watch Brits Award from last night.
Screams from the kitchen, Harry has fired and hit Becca.
She pulls tablecloth and two bowls of coco pops and milk go everywhere.
I scream.
Harry runs home.
I scream "bloody kids, get all this cleaned up and get to your beds".
Dd flicks back hair and says,"what the hell, what did we do, chill out"
And all this goes on and Dk (dh for the newbies) is still watching Brits Awards.
Save me somebody.....................save me.

Put the 3 of them over your knee and slap their arses really hard OR the back of their legs - that hurts even more. Thats what my Mam would have done with me and I have no doubt your Mam would have done with you Trips.

Kids are bloody hard work these days - I blame it all on stuff like X Factor (sound like my Nan) grin

Tom gave me the rolling eye look tonight....I just looked at him and he said 'What? What now?' without looking again I said 'You have homework, your homework has to be done tonight....I HAD TO DO HOMEWORK, I PASSED MY GCSE's AND O LEVELS, SO GET UP OFF YOUR LAID BACK ARSE AND GET IT DONE!!!' grin

It was done!

I need to do 100 lines - I MUST STOP SAYING ARSE ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE NEW MULTIPLE MUMS ON OUR THREAD.

triplets Mon 08-Oct-12 23:34:40

Trouble is Shabs, I am shouting in three directions..............its driving me insane, they are sooooooooo selfish, no wonder I can`t sleep!

triplets Mon 08-Oct-12 23:36:34

and I must stop saying the f word when provoked, even in a posh accent......tis no excuseblush

oh no..........what will the newbies think of me shock

I dont know how you do it Trips - I am in awe of you. Maybe a cattle prod, some Mace or a stun gun would help grin

triplets Mon 08-Oct-12 23:51:02

or a one way ticket to Faliraki Shabs!!
Kale Nits xx

FuriousP Mon 08-Oct-12 23:55:59

Trips, lock all your lot out so they go round someone else's house and drive them mad for a change!
My 2 watched the film Prometheus tonight with DH in the dining/xbox/ tv room. homework done beforehand and bags packed before 2hrs of peace for me in the living room, bliss

You are only going to my beloved Faliraki if I am coming with you Trips xxxx

Chopstheduck Tue 09-Oct-12 06:36:36

Morning girls x

That's far too smug, FuriousP, it will come back to bite you winkgrin

I do dread when mine reach that point where they are older and don't go to bed and leave me with that 2 hours of peace. <<packs bag ready for escape>>

Shay would def ignore me too. Dd and ds1 have more respect, and wouldn't dare point blank refuse to do as they are told. Shay does whatever the hell he wants, he is very bright, quite a bit cocky, and absolutely bloody minded. Most of the time he is good, but if he doesn't want to be I will just be stuffed, he'll just do what he wants anyway! Rav will mostly do as he is told but throw screaming hissy fits.

I swear too much too blush I think it is probably mandatory when dealing with multiples!

Morning girls xx

Got Lew here - heavy cold, the runs and being sick....joy of joys grin

Got to pick up Chelles son from primary school at 3.15 because the mighty Chellester has only got herself a job!!

....then tonight its French revision with Tom.

Oh the joys of being a parent and Grandparent!!

Chopstheduck Tue 09-Oct-12 09:08:13

Oh no! Seems to be taking the mick a bit, u get him when he is ill! Hope you don't catch it x

bagpuss Tue 09-Oct-12 09:20:12

Hey ladies, can I return too? I promise to Hoover the shag pile and buy the choccy nuts for trips grin.

GupX, my dts were three last week. I honestly don't know how time has flown by so quickly. I can still remember what I was doing three years ago today, like it was yesterday really.

Dawn, Kate and chiger, hello there! This is a fab thread - this lot were a massive support to me when my dts were born smile. <<wipes tear away from eye>>

triplets Tue 09-Oct-12 09:23:14

Poor Lew though Shabs xx
What dates can you do Faliraki?
Dd went off today having no wash or teeth brushed....................because she did it last night.
Tomorrow my two boys are meeting Princess Anne at their school, they seem quite impressed, their sister is not!
Off to my mums to do some more clearing sad

triplets Tue 09-Oct-12 09:24:57

Bagpuss....................how lovely to have you back! What have you been up to? Can`t believe its three years!! Thank you for the nuts, you rememberedsmile

Chopstheduck Tue 09-Oct-12 09:29:44

aww, trips, thinking of you. Is there much more to do?

bagpuss! welcome back x

Chopstheduck Tue 09-Oct-12 09:30:51

I met princess anne once. We were at the norfolk show looking around a craft stall and got kicked out cos HRH wanted to look. I wasn't much older than Rebecca i dont think and I wasn't impressed neihter! grin

The teeth and washing thing is also Toms theory Trips......'I had a shower last week I dont need another one!!!' His bedroom smells like teenage boy despite being cleaned every day by some idiot who lives in our house hmm Danny was also the same UNTIL he was about 15 (which Tom is now) when he discovered a tarty wench young girl who he liked at school. Then we were all 'bowled over' by shiny white teeth and the subtle stink of Lynx!!

<<waves to Bagpuss>> xxx

bagpuss Tue 09-Oct-12 09:44:38

Thank you trips! Not sure what I've been up to really, life just got in the way of mn for a while. Dh was redundant for part of last year, which was an interesting few months, but is now back at work thankfully. We lost my dad in january too sad so this year has been tough enough already.

Ds1 has started high school so I now also feel very old grin. The dts are just brilliant - I honestly don't remember the other three being this much fun as toddlers!

Shabs, I hope Lew is feeling better soon << passes Shabs a big box of tissues>>.

Sokmonsta, hi to you too, sorry I seem to have overlooked a complete page of posts blush. Not sure how I managed that when there are only two confused.

triplets Tue 09-Oct-12 23:01:12

Yes Baggy............real life sure does get in the way! Another emotional time at Mums, one more visit and I shall be finished............God its so sad, its the little things you find...........seems unreal, knowing that I shall be closing her front door for the last time soon. The house I lived in from the age of 5, a house mainly full of happy happy memories, of dogs, cats, budgies, rabbits, we had them all. Ohsad
Also today someone contacted me via FB to say they were certain Ollie my lost cat was in a garden in Kingsdown, 5 mins by car from here. We went up, walked up and down the streets getting a few strange looks calling his name, nothingsad
Thats my Mum and my cat both lost to me in three months, too sad.
I guess this is "real life"!!

Wish you could find Ollie - so sad to read about your Mum and having to clear her house. My Mum said to me 'Oh my word, you are going to have bloody fun clearing all my rubbish when I pop my clogs sad I have got 38 photograph albums and Im leaving them all to you!!!' Think I will have to get an extension built onto the house. xx

bubby64 Wed 10-Oct-12 00:36:16

Hi. Very late up, M off school today, temperature, sick and dizzy, so I had to stay home with him. Didn't get much done as he wanted to sit and "snuggle", so nice to have my little boy back, even if only for a while because he felt rotten.
Up at the moment as suddenly realised at 11.30pm I hadn't washed Js PE kit which got wet and muddy today, and he needs it again tomorrow! Just waiting for the machine to spin before putting it in the dryer!

Chopstheduck Wed 10-Oct-12 07:29:04

Morning girls.

Hope M and Lewis are feeling better today.

ds1 is struggling atm. Absolutely exhausted, on the verge of collapse. DH said he looked like he was going to pass out when he collected him from Boys Brigade last night. He broke down in floods of tears at school yesterday morning because his bike seized up. I've told him to try to get through today and then will probably keep him off for a few days to recover. School trip on fri anyway, which he doesn't want to go to, and will just be more exhausting.

He is overwhelmed at school, and can't seem to even switch off. Even last night he was still singing and playing with his cuddly toy in bed (stimming because he hasn't had any let up at school) rather than going to sleep.

He has taken on a bit much really, but I don't want to hold him back at all. Though he does really need to recognise his limitations sad

Lew was taken back to emergency doctors last night - his temperature is frightening EVEN about an hour after medicine. GP (obviously) says it is a virus!!Em is staying off with him today. She has received a verbal warning from Bolton Education authority because they say she should have adequate child care hmm Danny works for local council in the finance department and they are living in fear of their jobs folding...bloody country, bloody cutbacks and bloody smarmy faced Cameron.....<<throws darts at picturs of the slimeball>>

Chopstheduck Wed 10-Oct-12 07:53:56

She has received a verbal warning from Bolton Education authority because they say she should have adequate child care shock

seriously?? Has she really had that much time off? What about parental leave etc? Poor Em!

No she hasn't had any time off except her annual leave. She works in a Education authority nursery. In the nursery there is a baby nursery. Parents have to pay for the baby nursery and thats where she works. Its kind of a private day care within a free state run nursery - if that makes any sense. The manager of the private baby nursery is a cow - to be frank!! Emma has to put in her annual leave around Xmas time for the following year.

Last month Em was really not well - ladies problems!! She took two days off and they went crazy at her.

At one time, in our area, if you got a job with either the council or education authority you thought you had it made. Now things have changed so much.

Knowing Em she will lose her temper big time with them. She is quiet but dont push her grin

If she took Lew into nursery during school holidays they would charge her the same rate as the parents - robbing gits - thats why I started having him every day.

Chopstheduck Wed 10-Oct-12 08:59:50

they sound like right wankers sad

I can remember the council being good, exh used to work for them at one point.

bubby64 Wed 10-Oct-12 13:23:43

Shabs - hope Lew is ok, what a shit Emma's boss is! She needs reminding that Emma has the right to parental leave if her child is sick, and any warning could lead to a discrimination tribunal!
Chops - thanks for asking - M back at school today, after being ok overnight, looked a little pale, but temp remained down and not sick/dizzy anymore.
Pissed off with J - after me staying up til 1am doing his bloody PE kit, he decided that he isnt going to rugby club today, as he is too tired!

Chopstheduck Wed 10-Oct-12 14:39:44

<sigh> at J, but at least M is better!

Mine have been a bit like that with cross country, have to keep reminding them if they want to do it, they need to be fully committed. And Ravi never wants to actually practise the violin, but they will take these things on!

Remember that GP had said that Lew, in his opinion, had a heart murmur? Over the last few months two other docs have said the same. He went for his hospital appointment today and they were there ages. They have scanned, prodded, poked and consulted - he has no problems, at all, with his heart. <<massive sigh of relief>>

.....and my best friend Chellester - her son who just turned 11 - was born with a hole in his heart. He has had yearly hospital appointments but they told him 3 years ago it was healing and today was also his day at the same hospital grin The hole in his heart is no more....it has closed (or whatever the hell they call it) and they have discharged him.

Spent most of the afternoon having a few tears - so delighted for both boys - and a tiny, teeny bit envious that Gareths heart problems were so overwhelming, and wishing he had been born nowadays with all the new experts knowledge.

Chopstheduck Wed 10-Oct-12 17:33:36

aww, that is good news, shabs! I remember you saying, because ds1 was also born with a small hole, which cleared up within days.

{{hugs}}

bagpuss Wed 10-Oct-12 18:12:40

Aww that's good news Shabs. We were back at Alder Hey on Monday for dt2s check up - it went really well so that's two and a half years without any intervention since the last time, which is better than I hoped really.

Ds2 has come home from his second ever after school football club. It is such a novelty to have a vaguely sporty child that I'm actually looking forward to washing the muddy kit - feel like a proper mum of boys now grin

Trips, big hugs to you, I hope it isn't going to be too difficult leaving your mums house for the final time xx.

Chops, I hope ds1 is feeling better soon, I always think this time of year is so hard for kids, right up until Christmas really. Darker nights and mornings don't help much either.

triplets Wed 10-Oct-12 23:12:43

Oh my what a day of words..................hope everyone is feeling better. I read your post Bubbs and thought "this is a mothers love, staying up to wait for the washing machine to finish so that your child has a clean kit for the next day". Unbelievable about Emma Shabs shock. My boys were actually impressed with their royal visitor today at school, Princess Anne. Rebecca was totally unimpressed, "what the hell, she` only a Princess"! When I asked what she was wearing, Rebecca said "dunno" and James gave me a full blown description!! Had a nice morning up at school, but both the usual teacher and TA were both off with tonsilitus. I know I am being a wuss, but I am so missing my cat, in fact I am feeling quite depressed about him. Of course I love Molly his sister, but every time the cat flap goes I am disappointed its not him. They are a pair, go out together, come in together, they had brought such happiness into our lives.............now we just sit in silence in the evenings, no more watching their mad frenzies that made us all laugh. I know, I know its just a cat.........but I am mssing him so much. To lose him, and my Mum in three months is just so painful. I have to sit in Mums tomorrow afternoon waiting for the charity house clearance people to come. They won`t give me a definite time, just from 1.30pm. I shall be so glad when its all over. Somebody make me laugh please!

<<pulls up her top and shows off her big saggy Bernies>> That any use Trips? LOL

<<wonders if she should try and set light to a fart>> <<looks around for fire extinguishers and decides against it>>

triplets Wed 10-Oct-12 23:45:04

<<dons gas mask found in Mums coal house>>

Morning girls xx

bagpuss Thu 11-Oct-12 06:57:36

Morning!

Have just realised I forgot to put the bread machine on last night. Should make for some interesting packed lunches today then!

Chopstheduck Thu 11-Oct-12 08:00:33

Morning girls x

I rather like washing the football kit too! I feel a mixture of dead proud to see the school strip on MY washing line and a bit like I am in a Persil advert grin

You are good bubby, I only make homemade at the weekends, gave up doing it during the week, as it is really only nicest eaten on the day. Never got on with bread machines neither - usually came out like a boulder.
Mine have orzo today, with feta, olives and peppers in a sweet chilli sauce. That is Orzo - rice shaped pasta, not fecking barley, take note Nigellissima!

I'm getting itchy feet and drooling over houses. We pay so much in rent to live here, because it is designated catchement for a top school. But the nearby school has really come up and we could afford a 4 or even 5 bedroomed in the area for that. Every autumn we start to feel cramped as the nights draw in and we are all on top of each other. 3 boys in one room, and one reception room for 6 of us is just a bit squashy at times!

triplets Thu 11-Oct-12 09:09:59

Morning all................already cross!Thomas has just phoned to say he is going sailing with school today and he has not got his stuff, not even packed in his room. Can we take it over to Dover, I said no, by the time we find his stuff, drive there they will all be in the water. Now I feel guilty, bloody can`t win atm.

bagpuss Thu 11-Oct-12 09:19:51

Panic over, found some bread rolls at the bottom of the bread bin. I usually do a medium loaf daily, chops, it saves us a fortune and we can get through one a day so it is always fresh when we eat it. I don't think I am skilled enough to make by hand. I'm too impatient and so the machine is pretty foolproof for me. I know what you mean about some bread machine bread though, our old one made really stodgy loaves but the one I have now (Panasonic) is very good. I'm not sure my kids would eat orzo - they like most things but pasta has been off the menu recently <sigh>. It sounds delicious too!

Trips, I like princess Anne, what was she there for?

Shabs, did Emma sort her employers out in the end? That is disgraceful behaviour on their part, although quite common these days. Dh doesn't get any sick pay at all!

Bubby, have your boys started at secondary too? Mine is finding things tough and was up late last night doing homework he had left until the last minute!

Chopstheduck Thu 11-Oct-12 09:28:25

I'm pretty sure ours was panasonic too. Though it was quite old, a freegle jobby. It was fine if I put everything in and turned it on straightaway, but if I put everything in and put it on timer so we had fresh in the morning, it just refused to work nicely. Plus I got fed up with the ingredients list! The recipes for the bread maker had tons of ingredients, milk powder, oil, etc, do you put all that in?

By hand I just chuck in a bag of flour, sugar, salt and yeast, shove it in the oven until it has risen, and then reshape and bake.

Trips, don't feel bad, like you said, they would be in the water by the time you got there, so it is physically impossible.

I've already been up the school twice this morning, Rav forgot his violin AGAIN! And i clipped my wing mirror on the second run <sob>

bagpuss Thu 11-Oct-12 09:42:36

No, ours is just flour, salt, sugar, yeast, water and a knob of butter, tis easy! Our old one used oil and milk powder - horrible bread!

Bah for multiple school trips too. I insisted that dd1 left her glock at school as it is too heavy to carry and I was always having to go back with it when it was forgotten.

Trips, I agree with chops. My favourite phrase when they all forget something/need me to carry something is "I am not superwoman/an octopus!" (delete as applicable). They get it eventually grin

Em has gone in work today - Gawd help them if they start on her. She has a fiery temper which luckily I have only seen once!! Dan is off this morning with him....he rang his boss and told him that he had to have the morning off and would go in at 1pm and work his normal hours....so thats him working till about (at least) 8.30pm. Thank God for flexi time. Dan works for local council in debt recovery - they are not encouraged to join the Union and when the national strike was on he had to 'run the gauntlet' of the Trades Unions who were picketing outside the town hall. Worse thing is that he agrees fully with their arguments......ahhhh I dont know, working for local government and education used to be one of those 'jobs for life' things - certainly not now! <<wanders off muttering to herself>>

Chopstheduck Thu 11-Oct-12 09:54:16

I googled glock and it came up with this EEK! <runs away>

I'm always telling mine that I am not an octopus, or their slave. Doesn't seem to sink in though. I wouldn't have run the violin in again if I hadn't paid £96 for the terms lessons.

I wonder if all councils are as bad, shabs sad

Salford and Bolton council have had their funding cut dramatically. Salford especially usually get 'X' amount for the budget....in order to employ temp. staff etc. This year they got about a tenth of their normal budget and the threat of redundancies. Have told Dan that his department will be the last to feel the cuts, as they are debt recovery. He disagreed with me totally and said that everybody is petrified that they will lose their jobs.

bagpuss Thu 11-Oct-12 10:50:42

Glockenspiel grin. I was being a lazy typist blush.

Shabs that sucks sad. Dh says he has seen far too many ex colleagues out of work recently for comfort. I guess he was lucky to have found a new job at all, but there is always that doubt in the back of his mind that it will happen again to him.

bubby64 Thu 11-Oct-12 11:12:01

Trips - Not mothers love , but personal pride! He can go to school smelling like a skunk because he has avoided a shower yet again, but at least the kit looks/smells clean! and yes- no good you running over there with his kit, it would have been a waste of time/petrol. Hope all else has gone okthanks
Shabs What a relief for you all<<phew>> about parents taking time off , I told DH he has to go yesterday to sort out a problem at school, as I couldnt keep taking time off/coming in late his boss wasnt pleased, and said "thats the wifes job, not the fathers!", DH told him that parenting was a partnership, and only poor fathers left it all to the wife! Boss let him go grin
Hi Bagpuss, yes, they started in September, and, TBH we've had a bit of a bumpy road these past weeks, but, hopefully, things will settle now.
I am already fed up with nagging them about homework, packing bag for next day, and general niggles, especially since the past 4 weeks I have worked full time in one so I have put full time in one job or the other, and they are supposed to get home and start homework. Either DH or I get there at about 5.15pm. I have now put full parental blocks on Sky and computer, except for their school website for homework, and DH takes the xbox cable with him, so they have less excuses to sit around and leave it til later! Oh, and at least I only have to remember J's guitar, as M is learning drums, and I'm not carting a whole drumkit anywhere!
Chops I make bread most days too, dont used the timer- it sucked, but always use the fastbake- large loaf done in under 2hrs!

Chopstheduck Thu 11-Oct-12 11:39:07

I am sooo excited. Got a phone call and one of the dts is going to be a mascot for Arsenal. He will be on the telly and everything! He is going to be over the moon when I tell him grin

Only thing is the prize should be for dt1 (I tend to alternate entering the kids names into comps) but he may be half of a cm over the height limit! I gonna have to measure him tonight, and make a decision, otherwise dt2 may have to take his place. One twin is going to be thrilled in either case!

triplets Thu 11-Oct-12 23:31:44

<<Trips hides under apron, she has failed...........how could she feed her children Mothers Pride when other Mums bake their own...........wonders if homemade pancakes count>>

Chopster, could you give us some tips on this comping malarky, I don`t ask for much..............just a family holiday for 1(me), to swim with the sharks for dk, and a free months community work for dc`s.......and a years supply of Blue Diamond Smokehouse Almonds...........oh and a luxury villa in Faliraki for a friend.....my needs are fewgrin

Morning girls xx

No I have no idea why the hell I am up so early either hmm

Chopstheduck Fri 12-Oct-12 07:45:55

Morning girls x

Trips, it takes HOURS! Not even won much lately, and not a nut in sight!

Measured Rav last night, he is 127cms in socks so should be fine. He is so excited!

bagpuss Fri 12-Oct-12 20:42:27

Evening all! Happy Friday <<raises glass of red>>

Fantastic stuff chops! I'm not surprised he is excited!

Bubby, why didn't I think of that before - hide the Xbox cable, genius! Ds1 is minecraft addicted hmm. It causes many rows in this house. He is 12 tomorrow! Totally not prepared for his birthday - doesn't want anything in particular and doesnt want to do anything either, so just like any other day!

bubby64 Fri 12-Oct-12 22:32:46

Chops - wonderful for Rav!
bagpuss Bloody Minecraft!!!! They have it on Xbox, and want it downloaded onto our main computer as well!! I have said they can't have it on my laptop as it would take up too much space. Mine are 12 in December- I have hired the local pool for an hour, at £50, they can have up to 38 guests, then just giving a drink and crisps after - sorted!grin I wish they didnt want anything for their birthday, as their wishes are very expensive - an electric guitar and a drumkit(electronic is needed as I can't stand noise of conventional kit), both on loan at the moment from school, but they want (and need) their own, oh, and a laptop each as well! They must think these things will just "materialise" as they complain about me working the overtime needed to pay for the bloody thingsconfused
J is becoming a argumentative, obstinate little shit child, and M not far behind, but M's temper tantrums have to be seen to be believed! Kevin years have well and truly kicked in over here sad
Trips - only use breadmaker as it saves ££ each month with the amount of bread they seem to get through, also, I can add wholemeal flour to make a 50/50 type loaf at half the price of shop bought ones - they wont eat brown bread, so this is a compromisehmm

triplets Sat 13-Oct-12 01:01:08

<<crawls into bed, mutters..........."too old, too old for this game.....book club
supper here, cooked for my lot then for another 8............leftovers anybody?>>

Chopstheduck Sat 13-Oct-12 06:44:14

Morning girls.

It's far too early to be up <sob> DH is snoring his head off and I've given up. I'm supposed to be going out 2n too, got tickets to a London Film Festival event at Leicester Square. I doubt that will be happening now.

Happy birthday to the little Bubster! xx

I've kinda drilled it into mine that we are not rich and expensive presents are out of the question. I scrimp on everything, and they are pretty used to it, and they are quite good at saving up for things themselves. They know they will only get expensive stuff, if it's in a massive sale, or I win it!

But they still moan about me comping to get the nice things! I actually get up early during the holidays to get it over and done with at the crack of dawn, mostly before they get up. It's paid for three holidays, most of christmas, birthdays, endless days out, but they still moan at me!

It def gets harder as they get older, dd is 12, and doesn't have a clue what she wants for Xmas.

Morning girls xx

triplets Sat 13-Oct-12 08:59:37

Morning Chops as you are the only one up, yes far too early for a Sat! Its grey and miserable here, I feel tired after last night, got up to wake James as he has a band event, only to be told he doesn`t have to be there until 11.30am! The boys bedroom when I went in was the worst I have ever seen it, could hardly get thru the door, guess what they will be doing before they get their pocket money?

triplets Sat 13-Oct-12 09:00:16

oh apologies Shabs....................good morning smile

Chopstheduck Sat 13-Oct-12 09:17:42

I made a huge pile last night from their bedroom, they have to put it away before breakfast. Jack and shay are doing that, rav is going to clean out the rabbits. For now it is quiet, but I am waiting for the screams to start!

Jack is off for his first ever sleepover today! Prob not the best idea since he been absolutely knackered this week, but he has been looking forward to it for ages. Then tomorrow they have parade.

triplets Sat 13-Oct-12 12:47:54

What are the boys in Chops? I think all these orgainzed things are so good for them. James and his band are marching the Mayor to a civic reception plus church service, he won`t be home until around 3pm, thats a chunk of his Sat gone, but he love it. Becca has gone off to Canterbury with a friend, and Thomas is on the x-box.......................as usual. I have just been having a clear out of their drawers, mangled up adaptors and headphones, most seem to be not needed or not working. Been looking for the plug that goes with James`s old cd player, plus two plugs from digital photo frames, no sign of those of course! The sun has just come out, would like to go out somewhere nice.................but no money and too tired!

bubby64 Sat 13-Oct-12 13:16:43

Hi all,Chops DH usually complains of my snoring, I take pain killers which knock me out, so dont care grin I was woken at 06.05 by on call phone, just sat and read in bed after that.
Morning Shabs
Trips it was grey here, but now sun has come out. Huge pile of washing to get through as havent had time to do much over the week, plus got to go on a big food shop. On Call again this weekend, but, hopefully, as I was in the office yesterday I have forstalled a lot of the problems before they got to be urgent.
Boys did their rooms last weekend, and, at the moment, they are fairly clear, I know it wont last long though.
Boys went to a golf range with Young Farmers last night- J upset as he said "he sucks at golf", he wants to be good at everything sporty, but this was the 1st time he has tried it! M just said it was "fun" abd wasnt really bothered if he was good or not. They have a formal Ball coming up in November yikes! what do I dress them in?? Girls are easy - a party/evening dress, but do we have to go as far as hiring suits, or can I just send them in decent shirts, ties ans school black trousers at their age, thoughts anyone?
Bagpuss - happy birthday to bagpuss junior.

Chopstheduck Sat 13-Oct-12 14:21:58

I'd go for shirts and trousers and maybe optional ties. I think boys at that age don't like to make half the effort tht girls do. Dd insists on full prom dress for ANY occasion. They had a Halloween ball yesterday, she wore and purple and black party frock, and back combed hair and makeup to look like a zombie. She looked rather good actually! On the other hand, there were boys there in jeans and even one in a onsie!! grin

Trips, Rheannon and Jack do girls/boys brigade. They do parade once a month. Jack is hoping to join the band part when he is eligible at Easter and learn the bass drum. The boys do scouts instead but can't do the parades unfortunately, dh doesn't really want them going to church services. There isn't actually a lot around here tbh. Dd wanted to join the air corps but it closed down sad

Sokmonsta Sat 13-Oct-12 21:38:12

Good grief you guys move fast lol. Will catch up properly later. Currently offloading a shed load of pictures onto bt vault to clear laptop for inlaws.

Hope everyone with poorly bubbas is now through the worst. I can sympathise with crappy work. Mine are aiming at constructive dismissal. I'm not going back but not giving them the satisfaction of just rolling over this time grin

Trips - you can borrow dh if you like. We have an agreement. I do babies and small people. He manages their teens. We both have experience in those areas so defer to greater knowledge. I'm dreading 2 teenage girls and two teenage boys.

House is slightly less of a tip. Washing basket is no longer overflowing and (shhhhhh) nearly empty

Have to admit that once again, children were elsewhere. Nana and grandad had the bigs and twins were at nanny and Grandad's last night. Dh arranged so I could get some much needed respite. We've had a lumpy week which finished in a trip to gp, moderate to severe pnd and a lovely box of pills. Am hoping to feel human sometime soon.

triplets Sat 13-Oct-12 22:21:37

Welcome back sox, poor you...........take every advantage of getting some rest. Its lovely to have you join us, we are very friendly, funny and life savers...........I don`t know what I`d do without my mates on here................talking of which.....Rubester, where the hell are you?? Also bout time FG put in an appearance, does she not realize how much we miss her??

triplets Sat 13-Oct-12 22:23:11

Can I just ask, if you could afford it would you go away for Christmas and if so where?

Trips - IF I could go away for Xmas if would be the Canary Islands - especially Teneriffe xx

Chopstheduck Sun 14-Oct-12 07:41:45

Morning girls x

aww, Sokmonsta, hope the pills kick in soon and you start feel more like yourself again. I had pnd with my first, it is horrid.

Hell, yeah, trips! We flew on Xmas day in 2009 I think it was. Went to Florida, and came back with a sun tan. Was lovely too, all the parks were all christmassy. I'm not sure where I would go if I had the choice. Somewhere alpine would be tempting, maybe Switzerland, or Austria. Or if I wanted sun, maybe Dubai?
We just did Xmas day a few days early that year (even rigged the calendars), and the kids got Florida tickets in their stockings. I think as the kids get older, and we don't really have to do the whole Father Christmas thing, it would get increasingly tempting to go away more!

Morning girls xx

Sok - my lovely DIL had severe PND for about 10 months. It was only her AD that 'kept her going.' Sadly, very sadly, it has totally put her off having any more children. She was so poorly. I hope you soon start to feel better xx

triplets Sun 14-Oct-12 22:56:23

Good evening girls............my day has been 50/50.
Boys have been great.
Dk and dd not so.
and no sign of my darling Ollie boy :-(
and I could just eat some choccy nuts and I haven`t got any
and thats about it really.
Night night xx

Chopstheduck Sun 14-Oct-12 23:05:04

Aww trips, you can share my valor choccie almond bar if u like!

It's a late footy game tonight (American footy) so I've just finished dinner. Calimari with chilli folllowed Venison steak with sherry mushroom sauce and homemade garlic and parsley chips. Yum! <Insert stuffed emotion>

I gonna be soooo sleepy 2n. This bottle of my fav Spanish white sitting here won't help neither! <tips up glasses>

Chopstheduck Sun 14-Oct-12 23:05:50

Tips?? tops!

triplets Sun 14-Oct-12 23:21:49

Tips is probably right!!
Can I have the recipe for your chips, sounds divine!
Now I must go to sleep!

Morning girls xx

Chopstheduck Mon 15-Oct-12 07:53:34

Morning girls x <yawn>

I can't wait til school run time. Jack is off his head and insisting shay is a jammy donut and trying to eat him. I suppose it's an improvement on the tears, but we've already had one accident on the stairs! <looks up number for respite care>

Garlic Chips

Peel and thickly chip potatoes, leave to soak in a bowl of cold water with a squeeze of lemon juice for a couple of hours.

Heat oil til very hot, dry chips until potato is soft and just about cooked. Remove from oil, let oil come back up to heat, then fry for a second time until crisp and nicely golden.

Finely chop 2-3 cloves of garlic. Melt decent butter (I use Isigny St Mére, would be horrid with anchor) in a small pan, add garlic, fry over medium/low for couple of minutes til garlic aromatic. Add tbsp dried parsely (dried sticks better).

Pour butter into a warmed bowl, and toss chips in it, until chips well coated in garlic.

Not one for diets!

Chopstheduck Mon 15-Oct-12 07:54:57

Oh and add sea salt and pepper when tossing. I always use unsalted butter.

bubby64 Mon 15-Oct-12 12:08:20

Morning Girlies - I need yet more advice here. Had a HUGE row with J over him "finding" or "borrowing" money, and then keeping it. I gave him £3 on friday for school dinner, and M a £10 note as I had no change, and asked M to give back the £7 change. J then told M he had "forgotten" his money (I know he hadnt, as I saw him put it in his bag as he went out the door) and could he have the change to get himself a lunch. When I asked for change back, and M said J had got what was left of it, J denied all knowledge. They were also given a £10 note on Friday evening, again as I hadn't change (needed 2.50 each), and I hadn't had the change back from that either, J said he spent all the extra on addittional baskets of golf balls (£7.50 = 150 golf balls in less than 1hr30mins, which would have to be hit at a rate of 1 ball every 50 seconds-I dont think so!) totalling it up, J has had an extra £12 from me that he shouldnt have had in the past day, and I found out that morning he had been spending quite a lot in the village shop, buying sweets/drinnks/snacks, and he also hd some in his wallet. He said he had 'saved up'hmm or 'won' on betting on dares at school.hmmhmm.
I know he had already spent his pocket money, so I went balistic, as he has already been told about "finding" money around the house (DH has a habit of emptying out his pockets in the bathroom/bedroom and leaving the change on the side), and said this is really stealing, as he knows who the money belongs too. I have stopped xbox use again, as well as stopping pocket money, but DH said stopping that will only encorage him to steal more!
any thoughts on this girls?

triplets Mon 15-Oct-12 15:26:15

Oh Bubby a tricky one,I think though I would be stopping pocket money, so that any further spending would be proof! I am having a sort of similar problem with Rebecca. They all get £5 a week pocket money. James hardly ever spends his so atm he has £40. Thomas tends to spend his thoughout the week. Rebecca goes out every w/end with the girls, often via trains, so her p/m goes no where an she asks for more. Last w/end she had an extra £5 to go to Canterbury, then she wangled a £2.20 comic, then last night she was asked to the cinema with friends and needed another £7.50p! The boys are starting to kick up and I can`t afford it. So have told her she is grounded this w/end, no trips out etc, also suggested she could do a few jobs to pay me back................that didn`t go down at all well! I know a £5 isn`t much these days, my Mum used to give them extra each week, sadly she has gone sad

Chopstheduck Tue 16-Oct-12 06:38:44

Morning girls x

I'd be stopping any money too, Bubby. It sounds like he is just being a bit greedy, something I could imagine dd doing! I keep her money in a bank account and she has to ask before going to the shop or she would waste all her money on sweets and things. I'd give the money to M when they need money together for a bit, and just ban J from all cash handling for a bit.

When I used to have to give mine cash for school dinners, I kept an ice cream container where I would throw in all my change to keep it tiding over for the £2s here and there, so I could give them the right money. I got into the habit of geting cash out, and using notes when paying for stuff to keep the change topped up.

Trips, if dd doesn't help around the house, no money, simples! Yesterday she hoovered upstairs, emptied the dishwasher and put a basket of laundry away. I just wish she would put as much effort into her school work and bedroom!

We don't really do regular chores, but everyone mucks in. It's strange, they will all happily hoover, or dust, do laundry related jobs, gardening or cook. They moan a little about the dishwasher, but they cannot tidy their room with without WWIII and it always seems to be me that ends up cleaning out THEIR rabbits!

Chopstheduck Tue 16-Oct-12 06:41:00

I say THEIR rabbits, they should be MY rabbits now. I look after them. And they've got sooo tame now! They run around the garden all day, and I can't step outside the door without tripping over three balls of fluff. When I try to hang out washing, they climb on the basket, and climb my legs. They nose into everything I do out there! grin

Morning girls xx

Tom doesn't get set pocket money. He just robs me blind for 'stuff he NEEDS' - anything to do with PS3. Drives me round the piggin' bend - I have started saying 'Nope....cant afford it...Xmas is coming up!!'

He does very little around the house. Tidied his room on Sunday shock

Might I add....he moved 'stuff' around in his room.....the 'massive job' did not include hoovering, polishing or putting rubbish in the bin!!! He also 'tidied' his room to put off doing homework hmm

Chopstheduck Tue 16-Oct-12 07:24:12

I made a big pile of stuff laying around in the boys room Friday evening. Should have taken maybe an hour tops to clean up? That took them til lunchtime. Then by Sunday it looked like a bomb had hit it again. Nobody wanted to take responsibility or clear it up, so cue me having a screaming fit at them, and banning them from video games for two days. <sigh>

I've even posted pics of dd's room onto her facebook page in an attempt to embarrass her into tidying it up, with absolutely no effect!

bagpuss Tue 16-Oct-12 08:19:07

Morning! Thanks for ds1s birthday wishes, he had a good day but so unlike any other birthday before - no presents, no birthday outing! He does have an impressive stash of cash now though, and it is burning a hole in his pocket!

Bubby, I'm afraid I don't have much advice - ours all get a pound each week from the ILs and ds1 gets three but we rarely give them money ourselves. They do get money for trips and quite often I give the older two money from my purse if they are going to the shops with their friends. Ds1s school have a cashless system for dinners so we just top up online and when it's gone it's gone! Show him my post if you like, I bet he would feel quite rich compared to my 12 year old wink. If it was me I would probably stop pocket money too for a while.

Dd1 and ds2 are away on a school trip so I don't even have to do the school run today! The novelty still hasn't worn off although I do not really know what I am supposed to do with myself! I have, since yesterday, caught up on the washing and changed all their beds and given the rooms a quick tidy. I suppose I should take the opportunity to vacuum while I can still see the carpet grin.

bubby64 Tue 16-Oct-12 15:38:11

J is home sick today, and have had a serious talk, with no-one else present. He has admitted taking the money and has promised not to do it again, He got tearful and embarrased, and has given me back £6 that he had left and hidden away. He has also agreed a chore list again, we used to have one, but it seems to have gone by the wayside lately,(dont know how long this will last, but I can but try!). DH and I have also talked about the pocket money situation, and have agreed to give them a set amount of £5 a week, as, up to now, it has been on an "as you need it" basis, which could often add up to more than we realise.I have also agreed to £3 for school dinners twice a week, and packed lunches the rest of the time he has packed lunch with no extra money for snacks etc. If he wants those, he will have to use the pocket money. bagpuss I wish they would have the cashless system here, it would make things so much easier!

triplets Tue 16-Oct-12 23:07:23

Well done Bubbs that sounds very fair to me. Only one of mine has school dinner, he has £3 a day, just glad the other two don`t want it as I just couldn`t afford it! Just feel at my age that I have been doing packed lunches forever! Did anyone watch the Great British Bake Off final tonight? I was very surprised at the winner, but glad for him out of the three, feel bereft now its finished:-(
Sleep tight xx

Chopstheduck Wed 17-Oct-12 06:35:09

Morning girls x

Glad you had a good chat, bubby.

Morning girls xx

bagpuss Wed 17-Oct-12 06:55:04

Morning Shabs xx.

bubby64 Wed 17-Oct-12 08:26:43

Morning Girlies - happy birthday to me, happy birthday to me <<warbles quietly to herself as males in household seem oblivious to it >>.
Got J off sick again, M just walked down road to catch bus in wind and pouring rain, heating on,brew in hand.
Had some good news yesterday-insurance paying out full value, the Pont will be restored to life again!!
Also managed to win J's birthday pressie on eBay, electric guitar with amp, strap, stand and carry bag for £28. Result!! Just got M's drum kit to get now, and still 6weeks to get it, hooray!

rubyrubyruby Wed 17-Oct-12 08:31:24

Happy Birthday Bubby thanks

Good news about the car!

Sorry to all I've been AWOL - feel like I'm on a treadmill and must keep running or I will fall off!

Catch up soon xxxxx or 'laters' as DCs would say grin

Happy Birthday Bubby!!

Oh yes I know that 'treadmill' Rubester - its not a great place.

Lew got a glowing report at his first parents night smile

Tom has his first 'advanced Maths' GCSE paper today....he grunted at me when I woke him up, grunted at me when he went through the front door - then shouted back 'Love you Mam' half way up the street grin

bagpuss Wed 17-Oct-12 09:20:21

Happy birthday Bubby! thanks and wine for you. Glad you managed to sort things out with J. What a result with the birthday pressie too!

Hey Ruby! Long time no see, hope you and yours are all ok.

Apologies, chops, I didn't see your post before on account of the fact that I was up so early that I couldn't actually see all the posts through my bleary eyes. I'm on about my fifth coffee already.

I'm in washing Hell today after realising that I'd have to clear the backlog before ds2 gets home this evening with a suitcase full of muddy stuff. Dd1 not home until Friday thankfully!

Shabs, GCSEs already? How time flies!

Chopstheduck Wed 17-Oct-12 09:25:44

Happy Birthday bubby! thankswine
Great news about the pont!

Hope u ok ruby x

I don't even want to look at my laundry basket.

Chopstheduck Wed 17-Oct-12 09:26:01

and well done Lew, and good luck Tom!

Bagpuss - yes he leaves borstal his 'lovely' High school next Easter!!!! He did his Maths GCSE a year ago when he was in year 10 - the school 'fast track' some of the kids. He managed to get a B and thought that he would get away with having to do another GCSE Maths paper LOL...Oh no, his teacher, in her wisdom, has started them on Advanced Maths course <<snigger>> I cant understand one single question on the papers!!

triplets Wed 17-Oct-12 12:34:29

Happy Birthday Bubbs smilesmilesmilesmilesmilesmile
My James is doing a gcse english paper today, yes where dooes the time go to? Just home from school myself, it had to chuck it down the two minutes it took me to the bus stop!

Well done James....hope it goes well for him Trips xxx

<<sigh>> Its 30 degrees (in new money) in Falibleedinraki right now!!!! Many, many thanks to Thomas & Yannis at Thomas Bar....I needed to know your great news....<<kicks the wall very hard>>

bagpuss Wed 17-Oct-12 18:18:49

Ds2 is home - machine is on again!

Shabs and trips, I hope your respective boys do well today. Ds1 (also a James!) is in the top sets for Maths and English and was quite upset to not be on the g&t register because his primary didn't have one! I hope he manages to do well at Maths because he really enjoys it.

Shabs, they may have the weather over there, but they also have no money and no healthcare, I know where I'd rather be!

Dont believe everything you read in the papers or watch on the TV about Greece. Yes in mainland Greece things are very, very tough but Rhodes is a 14 hour ferry ride from Athens. The islands are not suffering as much as the mainland. The family who own the hotel we go to say that there only problem is that many of the 'returners' to the hotel who are British cannot afford to go there this year.

The hotel closes this weekend for the Winter. As the last person leaves the extended family (and there are 100's of them) all come to the hotel and they clean all the rooms, do any repairs and improvements. Then the entire family move around each others businesses and farms and help out there. That is the way of the Greek people we know. They all look after each other and help each other.

Takis' only part that was making him angry was their slow (if ever) return to the Drachma. He also says that the Greeks should never pay back Germany. I got a full history lesson from him!! The Germans stripped Greece of all their money, gold reserves and precious artifacts in the second World War. That part of our conversation had him the most angry!!

Rhodes has been financially 'battered' but their view on this is 'United we stand, divided we fall.' They will survive - I know they will.

OMG THAT WAS A VERY SERIOUS POST FOR ME!!! LOL

bubby64 Wed 17-Oct-12 22:57:10

Thanks for all the good wishes, family didn't forget, just left it til later in the day as such an early start this morning.
Trips and Shabs, hope It went well today for Tom and James.
Bagpiss I am working my way through our washing pile, and Mike is in top set for math and English too, much to myJames disgust!
Shabs - well done to Lew, and i totally agree with Takis's view on Germany, even though I work for a German firm, I don't always agree with the way they do things.

bubby64 Wed 17-Oct-12 22:59:03

Oh God, just read back my post! blush, So sorry bagpuss, bloody iPod

triplets Wed 17-Oct-12 23:11:44

For f ing f`s sake, already in a bad mood, a really bad mood just typed a message to ou all which I started at 10.35pm and its just bloody disappeared and I am so fed up I can`t do it all again. Will tell you tomorrow, its about school ad dk!!!!

I need nuts and a Tio...............

triplets Wed 17-Oct-12 23:13:19

and I can spell unlike dk, its this bloody machine......

triplets Wed 17-Oct-12 23:14:22

bloody bloody bloody bloody bloody.............feel better for thatgrin

<<passes Trips a pint of White Lightning cider and a fag>>

LMFWAO @ Bagpiss - sorry, but it appealed to my weird sense of humour.

<<gives the v sign to Trips DK without knowing the story>>

triplets Thu 18-Oct-12 00:12:26

<<amazes herself she can swig and inhale at the same time.......multi tasking>>

Morning girls xx

Chopstheduck Thu 18-Oct-12 06:40:37

<snigger> @ 'bagpiss'!

Morning girls x

Good luck to James, hope the paper went well trips!

Shabs, dh takes great delight in having various holiday locations we have (or he has) been too on his ipad weather app and showing me how it is hotter in every single one of them on a regular basis! Apparently it was 34C in LA yest - I don't want to know!!!

I'm really not sleeping well atm. jack has been struggling a bit this year, and his symptoms have gone really bad again after a long break when he has been really good. The school do a residential next May and there is a lot of pressure on every child to attend - the whole summer topic curriculum is based around it.

Jack went on the school residential in year 4 after lots of promises about how they were going to support him, and came back knackered because he didn't get any rest and they put him in a room with 3 other children, one of whom also has asd and kept them up all night. I had doubts about it anyway, but we were sort of coerced into it.

So he doesn't want to go on this one, he best (and only) friend also doesnt want to go, and I'm not going to make him. So now I will have his teacher and the HT on my back and possibly his trying to force the issue. sad

Jack is currently undergoing connors 3 testing for adhd. I did the forms earlier this week. I don't think J does have adhd at all, though he did score quite highly. But Shay scored VERY highly when I ran him through it. I've requested assessment for him now. The school really struggled with him through year 2 and he is constantly getting in trouble again this year. He is extremely lively, cocky, crap with other children, often aggressive, OCD type tendencies, unpredictable and very bright. Sounds charming, but he is brilliant with adults, and great fun. Just doesn't cope very well around other children, at home he usually hangs out with us rather than the other kids. The problem is that this school is totally shit with sn, and I now worried I have totally picked the wrong school for him.

bagpuss Thu 18-Oct-12 07:26:37

Morning!

Shabs, just before I posted that last night I did wonder whether I'd got the wrong end of the stick. Dh always lectures me about foreign travel during the current climate (not that we could ever afford it, but still), although I know plenty of people who've been to Greece and Spain with no problems, he worries I suppose.

Lol @ bagpiss grin. I've been called many things...

((((trips)))) <passes choccy nuts>

Chops, that's a lot of pressure for you as a parent. Our school do a residential in y3,4,5 and 6 which is expensive and almost everyone goes. I'm getting really fed up with is, particularly as we've had two children go each year for the last four years. That's a lot of money - we haven't had a family holiday since 2007 sad. That aside I think it can be good for kids to go although I noticed a few children with sn hadn't gone this year which I think is poor on the schools part as they maintain they want the trip to be inclusive!

I think a lot of primarys can appear bad with sn. Ours doesn't support g&t at all, but loves to point out the shortcomings of some children. I still haven't totally forgiven them for trying to put ds2 on their sn register because he couldn't say the letter l when he spoke (he was 4 at the time). Funnily enough he can speak perfectly well now!

Must go and wake ds2 who still hasn't surfaced, most unlike him!

Chopstheduck Thu 18-Oct-12 07:37:18

Our primary just has a crap senco that doesn't recognise sensory processing issues at all. sad

i do agree it is good for them to go, but this will be his third year of camping with the BB so he gets the socialisation bit from that. Plus its £50 cheaper for 7 nights as opposed to the schools 4 and they give Jack a private room and rest breaks when he needs them.

Not supporting G&T is bad too. I can remember how much support some G&T children needed when I helped out in a class for sn for a year - it equalled the children with sn. . sad I remember this adorable little lad who was G&T for maths, absolutely brilliant. But his literacy wasn't in the same league, so I'd sit and help him read the maths text and he would whizz through the answers. Must be over 12 years ago but he still sticks in my head, I think it was the way he was so appreciative of the help and clearly loved being able to actually access the work.

Bagpuss - not got the wrong end of the stick totally. Athens and mainland Greece seem to be in the deepest poo. I suppose that it 'filters down' IYKWIM - there were several bars closed in Faliraki that have been there many years. My Mum said I wasn't allowed to go because they are rioting in Greece and she didn't want me getting hurt grin I will be 56 in a few weeks time!!!

Chops parts of your description (in fact several parts) of how Shay is sound very, very like my Tom.

bubby64 Thu 18-Oct-12 12:40:26

<<waving a frantic hi/goodbye to Ruby as she dissapears into the distance..>>
Trips - DK certainly seems to be living up to his name, whatever he has done, as he has obviously upset you big time!<<rustles up yet more choccy nuts and a decent bottle of Merlot>>
Bagpus - sorry again for the name, blushblush - we made it clear to both the school and our two very early on that they would not be doing all residential trips, as we just could not afford it, luckily, there were 3 other sets of twins in their primary class, and only one set went to everything, so my 2 were not alone.
ChopsWe were also lucky that the school were supportive in all senco needs, both educational and physical, and at both ends of the scale, it does make a huge difference! I hope you get both DS sorted out soon, and if DS doesnt want to go on the trip, stick to your guns...he will get nothing out of it if he is not enjoying it.

bagpuss Thu 18-Oct-12 13:51:55

Chops, it is sad that the school can't support your ds as well as BB can, but nice that there is a way he gets to experience all the same things his peers do. I am baffled as to why our primary don't support g&t too. In fact given that they want such good sats results from y6 you would think that they would actively try to push it for those that need it. Mind you, we are still waiting for ds1s sats results and he took them in june hmm.

Shabs, lol @ your mum! But at least she cares!

Bubby, ds1 has also been warned not to expect any more large trips in secondary. He went on this years' one which was two days at £110 but unless there is an educational need for skiing in Austria, he won't be going on that or anything else I don't see as essential.

Having a nice day here, did some baking earlier and now dts are playing with duplo while I try to work out what I can get for stocking fillers for Christmas this year. I am stuck on ds1 and dh says that every idea I have had so far is not cool enough confused. So, wise ones, what should go in the stocking of a 12 year old boy?

Chopstheduck Thu 18-Oct-12 14:33:36

Isn't it just tempting sometimes to home educate?! grin

I don't think we will be doing any of the senior school ones, they run into hundreds of £s. For the cost of some of those, we could ALL have a holiday, and the kids would prefer that too.

DD last year wanted I think around £400 to go to Paris, we had gone twice already that year, and the second time we paid less than that for us all to get there and cover accommodation. Not a chance!

Hmm, stockings. I'm def going to get Jack some new shin pads, I might get him an Angry Birds USB stick (handy for taking stuff to mates, or school work), sweets, other than that pretty clueless really. Prob harlequins or chelsea related little bits! Jack loves cuddly toys too, prob get him a quins beanie bear, not sure most 12 year old boys are into cuddlies though!

<<looks around nervously and whispers>> Tom has a tiny beanie kind of puppy dog and a grey (soft toy) elephant. When I move them and put them in a drawer they come right back out again. It makes me snigger when I go in his room in the morning....the room stinks of boy, is generally messy and there he lies with a soft toy under each arm!!

triplets Thu 18-Oct-12 22:59:14

Right...............haven`t really got the energy to do this but here goes.
School.................bloody bloody school.
In Deal we have a choice of two secondary schools.
For the last few years rumours have been going around about them merging.
Then we get dropped a bomb shell, a proposal has been set for it to go ahead.
The other school has Academy status, so is independant of our local Kent County Council, a diff ball game altogether.
They called a meeting last night with the governors etc and it was plain, our school will close, our teachers will lose their jobs, our students will all move to the new school which is to be built on the other school site.
No one wants this from our side of the fence.
It will mean a huge new super school for our town, no choice for parents.
They call it a merger, it is take over.
It will all start from Sept 2013.
Mine are yr 10, just coming up to gcse`s, infact James sat a paper y/day.
The teachers are stressed, and what is going to happen?
Well they are not going to sty on a sinking ship, they will get out to find jobs and our kids will be left with supply teachers at a crucial time.
The meeting was very emotional and heated.
I asked dk to come with me, he has never ever been inside the school since the nightwe went to look round it, over 3 years ago.
He instead had a hot bath and several gins.
I fed 4 kids, and walked up to school at 7pm.
Left just gone 10pm, it was pouring and I walked the long way round instead of the short cut as it was very dark.
Got home at 10.20pm.
All kids still up, dk in the kitchen just clearing up.
He said Iwas late...........where had I been..........."talking"?
I said it was a pity he couldn`t make the effort to be with me for support, and I was wet and had to walk the long way home.
He said "why didn`t you find someone to walk with".
Because they all had cars and I didn`t.
He then went to throw away some left over pizza.
I said don`t I am hungry.
He said........"why didn`t you have something before you went"?
"BECAUSE I WAS COOKING AND FEEDING 4 KIDS AND YOUR SUPPER AND I RAN OUT OF TIME"

Exit to my bed.

Today we get a call of a firm sighting of Ollie, my beautiful cat. At 8.30am I am running to the house has was seen, they were sure it was him. Nothing.
At 5pm I get another call from another house, they have him in their kitchen, it matches our desription. My heart is pounding, I send dk and James with the cat basket, it comes back empty, it was not him sad

The also today I got 4 text messages from school urging us to make sure our children stay away from the "other" school meeting which was tonight. The local paper headlines today was "school to close". The kids had been told by parents what was said at the meeting last night. So today in school they started a riot!! Mainly started by girls in yr 10 inc Rebecca bloody Peace!!! So she comes home from school with a girl I have never seen before, the boys told me this girl had hit a boy last week and knocked two teeth out! They went upstairs, came down and said they were going out to meet up with other friends and were going to stage a silent protest meeting at the other school. She was grounded, well and truly grounded.

Its been a lovely day all in all...................

Chopstheduck Fri 19-Oct-12 06:18:18

Oh trips {{{hugs n choocie nuts}}}

<kicks DK with long legs equal to trips'> I'd be tempted to hit him over the head with that bloody gin bottle!

The whole school situation sounds absurd, surely it would make more sense to have a transitionary period where both schools run and only intake new year 7s into the merged school? It all sounds scarily sudden.

Had to smile at the irony of a little "Peace' involved in a riot! wink Do you think though, she really believes in the cause? If so, I would go easy on her for standing up for what she believes in. Otherwise, if it was just to be a trouble maker, I would come down like a ton of bricks.

I have a little good news, the school accepted my decision and that it was 'non-negotiable' for J not to attend the school trip! I really was geared up for a fight, previous times I've been dragged up for endless meetings. J came home a different child, like a huge weight has been lifted off his shoulders and beaming ear to ear! grin

Morning girls xx

Oh Trips - that is utter crap poo. Thats exactly the kind of thing that my DK would do as well. He last came up to Toms school in year 7 for his first parents evening.....Tom leaves next Easter!!! I hate it how I am always the one who sorts things out. Thats with just one child - I dont know how you manage with 'sorting things out' with 3.

I swear that if my DK says just one more time....'Do you know where......is?, Where have YOU put my.......etc etc I WILL kill him!!

I hope today is a better day xxx

triplets Sat 20-Oct-12 00:54:10

Evening............Chops very pleased to hear your news re J, nice not to have to battle for everything! A quieter day today except local press really blasting out the message of closure, its the talk of the town and a huge worry. I sulked tonight and would not have supper, only two pomegranitesgrin I felt very tired, cooked early for the kids as its ATC night, then asked dk if w could have fish n chips. No, he has no money. So I said , huh well it will have to be cold leftover chicken and chips..............then he sulked as that to him is not a proper meal. So he got the best of the leftovers, the cat got the rest and I got the pomegranites!! Good innit?

Morning girls xxx

Grrrrrrrr Trips - sounds like our house!

triplets Sat 20-Oct-12 23:19:06

Evening girls..............not much of a day, cooked.............................cooked.............and cooked......now I`m bored.............really really bored..................

Chopstheduck Sun 21-Oct-12 07:16:01

Morning girls.

shay just woke the entire house up, so a bright early start for me! hmm

Spent all day yesterday traipsing round Wembley, hoping to relax a bit today. It's a hindu festival time - Navratri, so it was MANIC! Got lots of nice Indian sweets and snacks and once I've done my comping will sit down in front of the footy and stuff my face partake in some delicacies!

Morning girls xx

buryburybury Sun 21-Oct-12 09:22:43

Morning smile

Treadmill slowing to a brisk walk. Just glimpsed through thread <<waves>>. It's all a bit shit about the school trips.

triplets Sun 21-Oct-12 13:54:49

ha ha you can`t fool me Rubestergrin
Yes its all utter crap and its all about money. Very worrying, another thing to add to my list!!
Really miserable here today, throwing it down, windy, just love days stuck in when everyone is boredddddddddd.

bubby64 Sun 21-Oct-12 21:54:38

Trips - What a crap thing to happen with the school, you would think, like Chops said, they would have a changeover period, they have done that in this area where the 3 tier system is changing to the 2 tier, schools have had 3yrs to a)build extra classrooms at primary schools and at hight schools and b) ensure that the teaching staff find posts in either one or the other.
Parents were not happy witht he changes, but at least they are doing it in the best way possible. Also, your DK needs a good slapping!!
Hi Ruby - going in disguise now???
Boys have done a sports day with Young Farmers today, their team came overall 2nd out of 6, considering its a newly formed branch with only 15 members, and only 8 could attend, they didnt do so badly.

bubby64 Sun 21-Oct-12 21:56:07

Oh, and Chops - Good news about your J!

triplets Sun 21-Oct-12 23:40:25

Just in from a night out with the girls, a charity quiz night, we came 9th out of 16 teams!! Didn`t have time foor supper before I went, took nibbles and now feel awful, nuts,crisps,popcorn and 2 pints of Spitfire Ale!! Posh.......innitgrin

Morning girls xx

Half term week.....ahhhhh lie in? No, Lew will be here in half an hour <<sigh>>

buryburybury Mon 22-Oct-12 07:01:18

Tis my Halloween name change bubby.

I think bubby is right about the transition Trips - it will take time.

Half Term!!! shock not round 'ere it ain't. << yawn>>

Chigertick Mon 22-Oct-12 09:21:18

Hello all - I have been lurking again, haven't posted as I don't have any advice re the school/ teenagerdom <scared about having all that to come!>

We are now into week 4 of illness/ear infections/colds/d&v bugs
Very helpfully when we were on our 8th drs visit she said - well now they're in day care you can expect them to get lots of bugs (!)
I pointed out that they had actually started getting "all these bugs" within 1 week of being discharged from hospital at 37 weeks ( nearly was a readmittance but for the feeding tube) and did she mean I shouldn't bring them then?
She conceded that no that's not what she meant - still left feeling as though she thought I was wasting her time.

I too am thankful it is half term here although J and E will still go to their childminders so I can do my planning in peace!

Have a good day everyone smile

ZombieB64 Mon 22-Oct-12 11:09:41

Name change appropriate for how I feel as well as halloween!
Hi Cigertick - you dont have to offer advice on our problematic teens to jump in, we talk to anyone about anything!!
Keep going to the GP if they are continuing to be unwell, and, if you feel things are not improving, as to be re-referred back to your paediatrician or, if your little ones are still under his/her care, ask for a urgent review. Sometimes you have to jump up and down and make a fuss to get things sorted. I used to do this, and my GP soon learned I would not be fobbed off as far as my DC's health was concerned, wanted shot of me more likely
and would refer me on when they had recurrent problems
Shabs - 1/2 term next week hereabouts - very late this year, the kids are all knackered already!!I am a fool to myself, and have agreed to have mu neighbours kids all week as she acannot get time off from work, I will have an extra 3 bodies from 8am-3pm every day I must have been mad to agree, but she caught me on the hop when she asked, and I said yes without really thinking it through!
Trips Glad you enjoyed your night outsmile

ZombieB64 Mon 22-Oct-12 20:46:00

56 flu jabs done, 94 still to go! I feel like lining them all up against a wall and throwing the syringes like darts!! Plenty of compliments on how they didn't feel the injection though,<< preens with professional pride>>
Oh, and I have won an auction on EBay for M's electronic drum kit too, £68 including a stool,(or drum 'throne' to give its proper name confused).
So that's both birthday gifts sorted and still 5 weeks to go!, must start looking at Christmas gifts now!

triplets Mon 22-Oct-12 22:32:09

Can you please stop all this name changing, takes me ages to work it out! Had a visit from my niece with baby Jacob today, she came to ask a favour. Could I have Jacob for an hour on Frid as she wants to go for a singing lesson, don`t mind at all as long as its not every week.......it would not go down well with dk and Frids are a nightmare with ATC night. Poor Becs had 2 teeth out at 4pm today, the start of her 2 yr dental treatment, she is not a happy bunny! Going to e-mail the head of school after I have done this, air my views!All very very worrying, its really going to affect my children at a very critical time. Not half term here Shabs, as you are always up an about so early.............ever thought of doing a paper round?

<<<runs away before the wet kipper comes>>>

Morning girls xx

LOL @ paper round!!

triplets Tue 23-Oct-12 22:23:55

It was just a thought Shabs................er where is everybody? I come on here for company don`t you know, been a very silent day here today as I am not talking to dk, he really really peed me orf this morning so I went to town two hours early. I walked too, its a 40 min walk along the seafront, thick fog, muttering obscenities...................times like this I miss Mum, I would always phone her up knowing she would cuss as well as me and back me upgrin Feeling very fat atm, some days I feel slim, then others I feel fat, but guess what? Went into my local M&Co store this morning (fashion) and one of the girls rushed up to me and asked me if I would model for them at a charity fashion show in aid of Cancer Research shock I declined, I would die if anyone saw what was lurking underneath blush

Oh Trips - you should do it - I double dog dare you!! That would be great xxx

Sokmonsta Wed 24-Oct-12 02:13:36

Morning! Catching up here after going to bed at 730pm with a shitty headache. Woke up at half 11 and been awake since. Bloody pnd. <offers round cola cake baked in an effort to feel human>

Trips that is crap about school changing at such a critical time for you. I know there's never a good time but there must have been some leeway to ensure the kids/staff don't get royally screwed. Reminded me of our parents induction for dd's reception. All these parents harping on about which secondary we feed into and going 'oh we don't want X as they're really poor atm, we want Y' not realising that school has also just failed its ofsted and is also in special measures.....

Joshua (dts) is on his second lot of antib's in just over a week. The cough I originally took him to gp for, and left with antib's for ear infection, has finally turned into a chest infection. Poor baby sounds like he's trying to cough a lung up.

Jennifer (dtd) is apparently a lazy so and so. She's only 6.5 months (5.5 corrected) and with Joshua leaping ahead in the movement stakes - been rolling over for a month or so, now rolls around like a flipping eel - only serves to worry me that she's not bothered with the whole rolling/moving thing, hates tummy time and just headbutts the floor, barely lifts her face off it. Stupid I know as she pushes her feet against the bars of the cot to turn given the space. Someone please tell me I'm being neurotic and she is perfectly normal. You'd think I'd know seeing as these are %233&4 but its been new territory each time (girl, boy, vaguely prem twins). Dh insists we could have more children so I am threatening him with triplets if that does ever happen (long and boring story about how we seem to outdo each previous pregnancy).

Best attempt some sleep I guess or I'll suffer later when ds1 wants to scream in my ear. Hoping next week (half term here) he'll finally succumb to the chicken pox going round preschool. He and Dd1 have Escaped every opportunity over the last 4 and a bit years so not optimistic. Just want it out of the way really. hmm

Morning girls xx

bagpuss Wed 24-Oct-12 07:01:19

Morning!

I'm off to read thread properly with my morning cuppa. Just sat down in our living room and noticed a spider the size of a small mouse looking at me from the middle of the floor!

Back later...

Chopstheduck Wed 24-Oct-12 07:58:05

Morning girls x

Oh trips, you should have grabbed it! Would have been fun!

Sokmonster, long time since mine were that small, but I think she is still very little. My dts were quite fast developing, but they didn't crawl until 7.5 months and they weren't prem. I think wiht dts it is easy to compare them and get worried, but I wouldn't be worrying for that.

Rav is terrified of 'piders' , l love winding him up wiht them grin

Chopstheduck Wed 24-Oct-12 16:34:30

Afternoon girls.

I have a rare evening home alone tonight! DH has taken Ravi off to the Arsenal game - keep a look out for him on the telly - he is going to be a mascot tonight! grin

Look out for the skinny, (and prob one the tallest there) indian kid, dark cropped air and dark eyes!

triplets Wed 24-Oct-12 22:21:32

Wow that must be one excited boy...................awwwww smile
Don`t know whats up with me lately, feel low, fed up etc.
Feel as though I need a treat..........would love a proper holiday, not just a break, just pack a bag, no selfcatering where I take the kitchen sink, where I could relax, laugh..........find abit of the old me again.............funny once you lose your parents, it launches you to a place you don`t want to be. A scary place..................

triplets Wed 24-Oct-12 22:22:38

grin just wanted to be the first!

Chopstheduck Wed 24-Oct-12 22:24:44

He was thrilled! Saw him on telly, he looked so excited! Terre is a pic on Facebook.

I'm not surprised you want to get way from it all, holiday sounds good though, can I join you? grin

Chopstheduck Wed 24-Oct-12 22:25:47

Ooh envy - elphaba!

triplets Wed 24-Oct-12 22:34:57

Now thats a brill idea Chops, a multiple vacation, where shall we go?

Chopstheduck Wed 24-Oct-12 22:39:36

Hmm, somewhere very hot, decent food, decent wine, ooh how about Barcelona?

triplets Wed 24-Oct-12 23:13:39

That`ll do nicely, tapas..........will it be hot enough?
I`d love to be back in Wine Country, in Calif, good good food and fab winesmile

Chopstheduck Wed 24-Oct-12 23:35:44

Mm, but American food? Though I do hear the sea food is nice.

I booked the bellagio yesterday, and with a fountain view! We could all pile in there? grin

buryburybury Thu 25-Oct-12 06:23:11

DO NOT LEAVE WITHOUT ME!

Morning girls xx

triplets Thu 25-Oct-12 08:59:08

Now then , we all need to check our passports are up to date and don`t forget our Estas for the States. The BELLAGIO is Fab, been in there, very pretty ceiling! I lurveeeeee American food, because there is such a vast choice, always shocks me though how expensive the wine is seeing as they grow so much of it!

Chopstheduck Thu 25-Oct-12 09:18:42

passprt - check
esta - check

now flights, business or first class?

Chopstheduck Thu 25-Oct-12 09:26:38

oh and I do love american breakfasts - Denny's is my most favourite place ever! I often recreate stuff from their menus at weekends - huge burritos full of egg, avocado, bacon etc. <drool>

We have to renew all 3 of our passports for next year........Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Chopstheduck Thu 25-Oct-12 10:54:56

All the kids run out at the same time, I'm sure we had to do 5 in 2008! Absurdly expensive.

ZombieB64 Thu 25-Oct-12 11:27:46

Hi All, I'm the only one with an in date passport etc- good excuse to leave them all behind!!grin Another vote for USA here, breakfast=Pancakes, bacon and maple syrup Dinner=any seafood place with crab and lobster where you can bash away with a hammer for me pleasegringrin
Sokmosta - Dont get paranoid about DTD, mine were very prem (29.5wks), and even with age adjustments, any prem baby will still be behind the developmental goals, but they catch up eventually. M, although the biggest of my two when born, was always anything from a couple of weeks to a couple of months behind J in those early years, J was always the impatient one, and M far more laid back in his attitude- this continues even today!
Chopster - Glad he had a good time, I will try to google it to see him.
Trips - You have GOT to do the modeling-it will boost you up no end!

ZombieB64 Thu 25-Oct-12 12:02:52

Chops pics of all mascots on their websitegrin

Chopstheduck Thu 25-Oct-12 12:53:16

so frustrating, all the pics are of arsenal players, and Rav got a Schalke player! Gonna have to wait until we get sent the official pic sad

HarrogateMum Thu 25-Oct-12 13:01:35

hi all, hope you're all doing ok! Can someone give me a round up of what's been happening since I was last here!? (not sure when that was...possibly in the summer hols!) HM xxxx

<<throws herself at HM and gives her a bear hug>>

HarrogateMum Thu 25-Oct-12 17:32:11

aw thanks Shabs, much appreciated! So what's news!

buryburybury Thu 25-Oct-12 17:49:56

Oh - so you're back then HM? [nonchalant]

<<checks window and bolts door>>

Put the kettle on Shabs!

Chopstheduck Thu 25-Oct-12 18:02:19

Whose HM? [fgrin]

On train back from meeting footballers <sigh>

Chopstheduck Thu 25-Oct-12 18:02:56

Who's even! Blame the footballers!

Errrrrr.......I went to falibleedinraki and back. Dan & Em got married in August. Lew started school in September. Tom is in his last year at borstal High school. Think thats it for me hmm

triplets Thu 25-Oct-12 23:01:05

HM welcome back...................too long, too long. Not sure if you were around when I lost my lovely Mum, she died on July 3rd...............so so miss her. Went to Sherwood Forest in Aug with my band of not so merry men. Then my beautiful cat Ollie disappeared which has broken my heart again, still no sign of hi, 4 weeks now. Then bombshell, they are closing my kids school, they are to merge next Sept, yr 11 just in time for gcse`s. Then.................................roll call.........der der der derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr,
I went to London for the w/end for a MN meet up and <<swoon>> met the Mighty Rubester who is the most lovely lovely doll as FG would say..................and about 4 weeks ago FG popped in............see what you`ve missed.......................oh and we caught a couple of newbies on here..........you must hang around you knowgrin

bagpuss Thu 25-Oct-12 23:29:55

Hey girls <waves at HM and ruby>

Trips the school merger sounds a nightmare for you - has it all sunk in for the trio yet?

Not much news here - half term has consumed me this week and I have had more than one g&t tonight as a result grinblush.

Morning girls xx

Have been dancing, singing and doing rudities all night with Shane Ritchie (Alfie Moon - Eastenders) in Faliraki. Was rather nice.....he is <<ahem>> very attentive!!! grin

Then I woke up to a freeeeezing cold, dark, windy Bolton morning!!!

Chopstheduck Fri 26-Oct-12 08:40:54

Morning girls

I don't think I've had much news really. Went on holiday (France and switzerland). Jack is bow being assessed for adhd, and playing football for his school team! Ravi was a mascot for Arsenal, and I went to drool over meet some NFL footballers yesterday.

rubyrubyruby Fri 26-Oct-12 08:54:00

<<waves back to bagpuss>>

I have had the weirdest year ever HM. A strange combination of great success and good fortune tinged with much sadness.
I'm working a lot more hours than I should be more and feel like I'm sprinting to stand still most of the time.
I met the lovely Trips but can't believe I forgot to buy her a drink! Next time.
We had a fantastic holiday in the summer and managed to get to a few Olympic events smile

bagpuss Fri 26-Oct-12 14:38:04

Afternoon! Shabs you are lucky you can even see the weather today. My lovely neighbours have workmen in who have parked the most enormous white van outside next to our house. I thought it was foggy from where I was sitting blush.

Today the older dc are playing minecraft and arguing which is driving me insane and dt1 has just pooed in her pants by accident (nice! hmm). On the up side I have made shortbread and have tea smile.

Sockmonsta, sorry I was on my phone last night and so couldn't do a very long post, but I wanted to say that I agree with Bubby and chops about the dts development. Mine were born at 32 weeks and still seem more like two year olds than three. They are also very little and have always hit milestones later than my older three dc. It is really hard not to compare them to one another also (but totally normal to I think), I still sometimes do it now!

HarrogateMum Fri 26-Oct-12 14:40:46

Oh my I have missed so much! Can't believe there have been weddings and all sorts....and Trips am so sorry to hear your news about your Mum, sending you lots of virtual hugs.

And MN meet up you say!!??? Can't believe I missed that! Shame on me....must try harder, must try harder. Big wave to all the new multiple mums (I feel like a newbie myself now!) I feel like Ruby, sprinting to stand still, I try to juggle work, three kids, husband who is away usually 4 nights a week, pta, church helping, helping at beavers (don't ask) and the extra curricular hockey, gymnastics, karate, badminton, swimming, rainbows etc etc etc...........I think I need a lie down!

triplets Sat 27-Oct-12 08:04:43

<<peeps in to find HM flat out on the shag pile.......quietly wheels in trolley, fresh bread from the bakers, homemade raspberry jam, steaming coffee and a pot of Earl Grey as I think HM is a bit posh>>

Morning girls xx

triplets Sat 27-Oct-12 08:07:51

How rude of me.....................Goodmorning girls............blowing a hoolie and freezing cold here, start of half term, nice to be get up early. Had the most restless nights sleep, think it was becaue I was ratty last night about the boys stupidity, long story!

triplets Sat 27-Oct-12 08:08:32

Shabs, me and thee !

HarrogateMum Sat 27-Oct-12 13:02:17

posh, moi? Absolutely not! I'm from Yorkshire remember!

Chopstheduck Sat 27-Oct-12 18:41:48

Ooh I love a cup of earl grey. I'm now officially posh, I got called posh Kelly on the radio! grin

Just got back from the nfl fans rally on Trafalgar Square, was lots of fun! Got to see players, coaches, cheer leading, music, beer and wings!

Chopstheduck Sat 27-Oct-12 18:44:01

And I've been to Harrogate - it's very posh! Cept for the little red light bit the bus used t I go past - is tht still there??

triplets Sat 27-Oct-12 23:20:31

I have been once myself, took my Mum and Dad with Matthew back in the early 90`s. Dk treated us to tea at Betty`s, one slice and 5 forksgrin

triplets Sat 27-Oct-12 23:40:10

Forgot to ask, dd has a broken phone and a broken ipod, Christmas is coming and I am getting fat, please put a penny.....................now where was I? If I have a £100 to spend on her main present can I get something that would do both..................I am not very geekyconfused

Chopstheduck Sun 28-Oct-12 07:35:48

hmm, trips, I would probably look at blackberry curves, which seem to be the must have phones for all teens, and she would be able to put music on that. I think they may start at slightly over £100 though.

As ours are getting older, and wanting all these gadgets they have to save to contribute towards the cost of them. I was quite proud of ds1 last weekend, he had finally saved enough to buy himself a little laptop. Dd tends to spend a fortune on shoes and clothes instead though!

Morning girls xx

triplets Sun 28-Oct-12 09:04:30

Goodmorning girls, the sun is shining through my bedroom window and the wind has dropped off smile Just had a cup of tea brought up to me by dk, so because of that today he can be dh grin
Chops mine would be saving forever, they only get £5 a week pocket money, which now that they are teens and are out and about doesn`t go anywhere. Mum used to give them extra, but sadly she`s not here sad
If she doesn`t get a phone/ipod I might look for a keyboard for her, she has a big old one my brother gave her and she has taught herself to play it and read music, she`s actually very good. James is easy this Christmas, his main pesent is going to be a bugle as he wants to join the RM School of Music! Thomas I haven`t a clue, he`s not into music, clothes, only x box and he`s got enough of that sort of stuff! We are off to Suffolk on Thurs for three nights with Harry`s niece and family, 11 of us going so should have abit of a laugh.

<<looks out of her living room window>> Brrrrrr - freezing cold and chucking it down here Trips.

Have no idea what to buy for Tom.....just ignoring Xmas at the moment (as usual) then I have Danny & Gareths 31st birthday on the 28th December <<sigh>> they weren't due till January 10th!! 3 days after bloody Xmas....3 piggin' days!!!

triplets Sun 28-Oct-12 10:41:03

There is going to be a row any moment..................dd and dh!

Chopstheduck Sun 28-Oct-12 11:22:07

Oh dear, grab your coat and leave them to it, trips!

Everything OK Trips? <<hides back behind the sofa>>

triplets Mon 29-Oct-12 00:01:17

Hi........dd gets a phone call to ask her if she wants to go roller skating at Sandwich. An hour later she is still in her bed, I knock on her door to ask her nicely if she is going, if so what time? I am greeted with "OMG I told you! At 11.15am she surfaces, goes downstairs and grabs a bowl of cereal, dh walks in and she says..............."oh yeh can you take me to Alices we are going skating". He says yes. At 11.35am she runs upstairs and gets ready, avoiding the bathroom and toothbrush. Comes down, asks for more money and then looks at the clock and throws hysterics as she is supposed to be at Alices at 11.30am so its all our fault she`s late! Off they go. 40mins later dh returns, a trifle angry. When she said could he take her to Alices, she ommitted to say Alice was at her Grandmas, 10 miles away! I lurveeeeeeeeee Sundaysgrin

Oh soddin' 'ell Trips - girls are way beyond scary.

Just watching Mr Robbie Williams for about the fourth time on X Factor. He has gone all chunky and has more than a few grey hairs. Oh my god his bum is beautiful. Cheeky grin, beautiful eyes. I would pay to maul with his todger and do rudities with him!! xx

triplets Mon 29-Oct-12 00:17:33

Oh Shabs you`ve made me laugh!! Boys are sooooooo much easier, I love her to bits but OMG............what the hellgrin

Girls are more scary than scary. grin

As soon as Mr Williams' video comes on youtube I will link it here. <<swoon>> he has the most beautiful chunky bum xxxxx <<bites hard>>

triplets Mon 29-Oct-12 00:37:15

Shouldn`t you be in bed? Tom back to school tomorrow, mine just starting half term, hoping for a lie in! Got terible IBS atm, one wonders why???

Yep I should be in bed Trips. Our Lew will be here about 7 am - he is not back in till Tuesday. Tom has to be up and running about half 7. What a fun day to be had by all. Cant settle down at all. xx

triplets Mon 29-Oct-12 01:02:46

Sleep Shabs sleep. xx

<<yawn>> Morning girls xx

Chopstheduck Mon 29-Oct-12 07:07:43

morning girls.

I think I got about four hours sleep! early night tonight i think.

Sokmonsta Mon 29-Oct-12 20:10:11

Evening ladies. Thanks for the reassurances about Jen. I know deep down I've worried unnecessarily (she's my smallest ever baby) and we have progress Jen rolled today. Was so pleased I watched her flail on the floor like a fish out of water before scooping her up for cuddles. grin

Joshua has finished his antib's and seemed no better, but have been told his chest is clear so good news there. Just have to persevere with his inhaler and see if it makes a difference. Back at drs with him Friday so they can check him over again.

At drs myself Friday as well. First appt since being given ads. Am permanently shattered at the mo with early wakings, to the point where it's affecting dh. He knows I can't help it but he's finding it hard. Just need to stay asleep so I'm not falling asleep early evening. Meh. It'll comehmm

Oh, and half term here this week. No sign of the pox yet. Maybe the tough first year has given James a cast iron constitution??

triplets Tue 30-Oct-12 00:22:22

I promised myself an early night too, not relaxed enough to sleep. A fraught day, kids and visitors, yes Shabs, the Wiganites turned up right on tea time! Sokmonster, everything is fine. My trio were born at 32 weeks, dd was 4.1oz, ds was 4.7oz and ds was only 2.15oz! Thomas (4.1oz) was the first to do everything, sit up, crawl, cut teeth, talk and walk and get out of nappies. Then roughly three months later Rebecca would walk talk etc..........then there was James (2.15oz) he was months behind. Thomas started pre school once he was dry in the Sept. Becca cracked it in the Dec so she joined Thomas at pre school in the Jan. By April James was still in nappies, turned three!!! Pre school agreed he could go in on the Tues afternoon as it was quiet. The Sunday before he started he simply said "don`t want this", and pulled his nappy off! So he was just over 6 months later starting pre school. Now he is the tallest and also far more grown up in the nicest way than the other two!! Don`t worry, they are fine and btw I love their names, xx

triplets Tue 30-Oct-12 00:40:48

shock I`ve been nominated fo the Christmas Appeal shock oh my, why?

Morning girls xx

Maybe because you deserve it Trips??? grin

triplets Tue 30-Oct-12 07:50:02

Hmmm, all us Mums deserve it Shabs, I could name quite a few! Thank you though to who ever it was as it must be one of you!! I don`t know what I`d do without MN, hard to imagine life before it. You do build up something special, I think we are soooooooooo lucky that the Mighty Frumpster started all of this.....................talking of which..............FG where the hell are you?

grin

Chopstheduck Tue 30-Oct-12 08:46:58

Morning girls x

I didn't even see the xmas appeal threads! Must have missed that altogether.

<<lies in wait for fg>

rubyrubyruby Tue 30-Oct-12 09:07:59

Well done Trips smile

I am a 'donor' on the Christmas Appeal.
So many worthy posters I didn't nominate anyone.

bagpuss Tue 30-Oct-12 10:21:35

That's fantastic trips, well done, you do deserve it! thanks

Where is FG?

triplets Tue 30-Oct-12 23:50:37

She`ll appear, probably no fuel for the helicoptergrin We used to tease her she was a celeb as she is sooooooo secretive, remember the old days? FG, Mars, Mommalove, LG&T............quite miss them. Got and idea.........lets invite them for Christmas!!

Morning girls xx

Great idea Trips x

Chopstheduck Wed 31-Oct-12 08:13:50

Morning girls

I see Mars, Mommalove, and LG&T around on fb, but no sign of FG sad Anyone remember meeley2? I met her on here, and we still talk lots, she had another boy, who is now 3 I think.

triplets Wed 31-Oct-12 08:38:19

I`d forgotten Meeley, ok lets plan a Christmas party, Shabs would you do the bunting, d`y think Derkster would be Santa? grin

Bunting? TICK. Derkster - Santa - he will be something if he doesn't get off his lazy arse and help me with anything to do with this house.....'Get me up in the morning and I will look after Lew for an hour (Lew has yet another heavy, snotty cold and temperature) I cant see the point in waking DK up so he can do it...

There will be a point in this day when I explode....just thought I would warn everybody!!

bagpuss Wed 31-Oct-12 10:33:20

Morning!

I remember mars (and even spoke to her on the actual telephone once!) also tkband3, neenz and another poster who had 5 like me but I can't for the life of me remember her name blush. Also lg&t and ester too. We were quite a busy little bunch on here 3 years back! I never did FB with anyone here I don't think but haven't visited it for a while because it scares me, or rather, some of the people I know there scare me. Maybe I should log back on and have a spring clean.

Christmas party sounds like a plan! At the moment my living room looks more like the island of sodor than anywhere for festivities!

HarrogateMum Wed 31-Oct-12 14:29:27

Think they all deserted Mumsnet, although for me it wasn't a desertion, just not enough hours in the day! Am on hols this week though in freeezing cold Spain....at least it's a bit warmer than the UK!

CHops - red light district in Harrogate? I'd love to know where that bit is! Hee hee! Trips not surprised about the one cake five forks at Bettys, it is extortionate, but lovely.....a friend of mine used to work there when we were still at school, she used to bring a box full of cakes back on a Sunday night when they were going to be thrown in the bin....yum! Those were the days...

Sokmonsta Wed 31-Oct-12 19:29:49

Fuck. Spoke too soon. a spot appeared yesterday. A big one. Looked yuk this morning then James knocked it the bath so it popped. Several more have since appeared. Joshua has a spot on his bottom. Am watching it closely as both he and Jen have been off it the last few days hmm.

triplets Wed 31-Oct-12 23:05:34

Doesn`t feel like Weds tonight.............dunno why I said that really confused you are going to miss my late night ramblings as we are off to Suffolk tomorrow for 3 nights with dk`s sister and co. Looks like a lovely old house, 5 bedrooms, 70 yards from the pub! We are doing a Halloween party tomorrow night for the kids and guess who`s cooking? Shabs we`ll do the invitations when I get back! xx

triplets Wed 31-Oct-12 23:06:31

Socky........hope the dc`s are ok xx

Hope you have a lovely break Trips xxx

triplets Wed 31-Oct-12 23:36:47

Thanks Shabs, weather forecast is not brill, just be nice to have some other company!! Hope Lew gets shot of his cold, dose him up with some vitamins! xx

Morning girls xx

Chopstheduck Thu 01-Nov-12 07:10:50

Morning girls x

Hope they are ok soks!

I'm all worn out, but I think the kids had the best halloween ever! We went to westfield, dropped the older two off at the cinema to see Hotel Transylvania (which is apparently very good) and then took the younger two to to catch a Hummer limousine to a Monster High party! The party was ace, really looked after everyone, cupcakes, coffees with hearts in the froth, the stars of the film were there, they got halloween hair, makeup, potion making. The boys were on a high all day! grin

Then we dashed home, lit the pumpkin and went trick or treating. The kids are now comparing their hauls, since dd and ds1 both went with their friends, and the dts came with us. I was exhausted after all that, and packed them off to bed and had a posh Chinese takeaway with crispy soft shelled crab!

Today, football training and grocery shopping. Is it nearly term time again yet....please?!

<<sits in a corner sobbing>>

First Lew AND Tom are on half term.
Cope with the arguing, wrestling, feeding, providing drinks etc etc etc
Then Lew ill AGAIN
Lew here at 7am - 'helping' to get Tom up....arguing, messing with Toms 'stuff', falling out with each other ALL before 7.45
Lew back to school today.
Tom sets the scene last night about how he doesn't feel well!!
Tom coughs all night.
Go to wake Tom up.....pale as a ghost but with a allergy type rash!!
Wake up Tom its time for school.....<<man voice>> I dont feel well.
Flounce out of his bedroom, come down, ring school.

My God I am so sick of my lot. I feel like a sponge that soaks up all their illnesses, moaning, selfishness etc etc etc. Just glad I have only ONE teenager at home. I bow down before you ladies!!

Chopstheduck Fri 02-Nov-12 06:13:01

Morning girls x

How is Tom today, shabs?

Any more spots Soks?

Sleepy, so sleepy! Football training this morning then off to Ice Age Live this evening. I may fall asleep at Wembley. Zzzzzz!

Morning girls xx

<<sings the 'sound of silence'>> Tom was fine - as soon as he knew he was officially off school angry Went through Facebook with a fine tooth comb - yes, I have his password, and he knows I do. Checked all through his messages - nothing bad (for a change). Then noticed one of the girls in year 10 lost her battle with cancer a couple of days ago. The outpouring of grief amongst the kids was overwhelming. Dont think he fancied being in the middle of it. He has gone in today, muttering and moaning and, admittedly, still coughing. He has saved over £40 for a new PS3 wrestling game that comes out today......has reserved it at Game in Bolton. Told him - NO SCHOOL, NO GOING INTO BOLTON TONIGHT.....weird how bribery works.

Chopstheduck Fri 02-Nov-12 11:28:34

Lol, at least normality has resumed!

It's very silent here too. I'm sitting in car while the boys are tearing up a football pitch. Very nice! I did plan to go into town but sat in traffic for 45 mins then gave up!

Chopstheduck Sat 03-Nov-12 08:05:31

Morning girls x

Ice Age was brilliant, would well recommend it. More circusy than I expected with a lot of acrobatic type acts. The kids loved it.

Today I shall mostly be ironing, while the boys are off to see Bond. Then off out tonight MINUS kids <<sings Think by Aretha Franklin to self>>

Morning girls. xx

MINUS kids Chops? Sounds wonderful!!!

Sokmonsta Sun 04-Nov-12 07:24:11

Morning. Though it feels like afternoon!

The Spot multiplied. Poor James is covered head to toe, in his ears, on his lips and some spectacularly large ones on his fingers (which he keeps asking me to take off). Joshua's spot disappeared. But he has viral and fungal rashes. Jennifer is coughing like she has a really bad smokers cough, sounds like she's going to throw up or cough out a lung. I am shattered after a very disturbed night. Dh did his bit but I woke earlier than normal ( just after midnight as opposed to 2am) and then couldn't get back to sleep.

Chopstheduck Sun 04-Nov-12 07:58:08

Morning girls x

Poor kids, soks! We've had a viral cough thing with temperature, lethargy, etc. going round our house. dd was off school for most of a week with it, was not nice at all. Hope they are all better soon.

It is horrible out here today. Absolutely bucketing it down! Really hope it dries up before the fireworks later. Will def be welly weather - field is going to be a swamp.

Morning girls xx

<<sniff, cough, sniff>> I have the dreaded lurgy today. Thought I had got away with it!

Chopstheduck Sun 04-Nov-12 20:21:49

Aww shabs!

<<passes tea and hot water bottle>>

Just back from fireworks. Dinner in oven, kids in bed, beer is chilled, just need the footy to start and we are sorted!

triplets Sun 04-Nov-12 23:19:29

<<Staff nurse Peace wheels in meds trolley...........now lets see, ah yes a squeeze of STOP SPOT cream, 2 tbs ANTI LURGY mixture and the last of her chocolate nuts to share...........oh and a bottle of 2009 Rioja she didn`t guzzle last night>>

Morning girls xx

Did you enjoy your break Trips? xx

bubby64 Mon 05-Nov-12 10:12:47

TripsBeen away from MNet for a week, and find you have been near me on a vist. Gutted as I would have suggested a meet up if I had known!!
Soks- better getting it all over and done with in one hit- mine decided to do it one after the other, so, in the end, it went on for nearly 5 weeks total.
HM - I missed your visit back on here too!
Shabs - Hope you feel better soon.
I spent last week looking after my 2 plus my neighbours 2, and am really glad to be back at work, as they exhausted me. Also, because I was trying to keep all four 9yr to 12yr olds amused, I ended up trying to walk too much, and have put my back out as my limping got so severe, so in pain with that as well as the ankle at the moment.
Not that my 2 seem to appreciate it, in fact, there has been a running battle all week with James and DH and I, he has become a mouthy, lazy, moaning pre-teen, who will pick an argument with anyone at the drop of a hat! I hate to say this, but I really am struggling to like him at the moment, Mike has had his moments, but it is usually because James has been sh*t stirring first.
On the plus side, the Pontiac is nearly finished, I have managed to sort out the boys birthday, and I earned enough over the past 2 months doing extra work to pay for Christmas this year.

triplets Mon 05-Nov-12 14:30:40

Hi all............yes Shabs I did thank you, it was a nice change and loads of good food and wine and adult company! We had a laugh!! The house was to die for, slept 12 of us easily, and pub within spitting distance! Bubbs where are you then? We loved the area, Thorpeness, Aldeburgh and Southwold. Just disappointed I didn`t get to the shops at Southwold, absolutley nowhere to park, so we just did the pier which was great fun. Weather was ok until Sun but we were leaving anyway. So back to the grind!

Chopstheduck Mon 05-Nov-12 17:41:18

welcome trips n bubby!

sounds lovely trips!

Bubby, I feel like that a lot about dd atm! I just keep hoping it is a phase and she will improve again. she is a moody, stroppy, often vicious little madam at times right now. Its a bit like living with jekyll and hyde, and I'm never sure if jekyll or hyde is going to appear in the mornings! And i do NOT like Hyde much!

No one is near Birmingham are they? I'm probably going up there first weekend of december and will be all by MYSELF grin

triplets Mon 05-Nov-12 22:38:07

Evening all................soon back to normal here at Peace Towers. Rebecca`s friends called for her at 4pm and left at 8pm, more mouths to feed! Catching up on washing, endless amounts of underwear, the boys seem to get through more than her! And don`t you just hate matching up black school socksconfused Still no sign of Ollie, felt strange coming home y/day, no Ollie and no Mum to ring. I would always get home and call her to say we were backsad Night night all................xx

Morning girls xx

Kept waking up all night because I was having panic attacks....how the hell do you have them in your bloody sleep? AND I take beta blockers to prevent them??? Awful struggling to breathe etc. <<slaps herself very hard>> Got hair that looks like a Farah Fawcett Majors 'do' this morning LOL....all flicked back at the sides - looks beautiful hmm

<<scratches bum and stretches>> Ah well!!

Chopstheduck Tue 06-Nov-12 09:11:10

morning girls x

hope you are feeling better shabs.

Trips, you really need to put your foot down! No way would I be able to feed extras at short notice. Usually plenty of food, but lots of strange forrin' food that our guests would be unlikely to touch! Dosa, anyone?!

dd went to school with no breakfast this morning. Turned her nose up at 50/50 bed, so I told her to take the white bread. Gave me a dirty look and started grumbling about that, then took it started whinging and moaning, so I took it off her, gave it to Jack and told her to go without! Did feel a bit mean, but I bet she won't try it again! grin

Aye I will be fine Chops. xx

bagpuss Tue 06-Nov-12 11:22:15

Morning! <<hoovers shagpile and hands out slankets to all the poorly people>>

Trips, you say your boys generate more washing but I have just removed half a load of washing comprising mainly underwear from dd1s room. She is hiding it! Would anybody care to tell me why? Your break sounds lovely though. I'm not envious in the slightest, no envy

It is rainy and grim here today. I just want to go back to bed really, but housework needs doing!

Chopstheduck Tue 06-Nov-12 19:11:26

I havea slanket. I'm not ill but I do love my slanket. It's has New York giants all over it (American football).

Been one of those days. Went on 40 mile round trip to Asda to collect something and they wouldn't give it to me cos I didn't have dh's bank card! Even though the order is with My account and in My name. Photographic evidence in the form of criving licence not good enough apparently.
Nearly rear ended a car on the way back trying to sneak thru an amber light! blush
Then I had to get onto the council who have sold our details for the electoral roll even though we ticked the box asking them not to. Apparently they lost this years form! That's why I hate filling those forms in.
Then dh was an hour late because someone jumped in front of a train. <sigh> fish and chips for dinner tonight once the kids are in bed!

bagpuss Tue 06-Nov-12 20:42:12

Yes, I am currently wrapped in my zebra print slanket, glass of red by my side grin.

Boo to Asda, chops. I have had a run in with Tesco this week but it managed to get me a gift card in compensation for them messing up our order so I'm feeling calmer now.

Enjoy your fish and chips, we had hairy bikers mince and dumplings. Proper cold weather food here brrrr!

Chopstheduck Tue 06-Nov-12 20:56:13

<sob> I was planning to make hairy bikers pie! Could t find tarragon anywhere though. Fish and chips was tasty however.

bubby64 Tue 06-Nov-12 22:41:42

Zebra striped slanket here, and spaghetti and meatballs for tea. The. Out to my choir practice
Trips, you were about 40mins drive from me, but that's nothing in this neck of the woods, I would have cut across country to Framingham then on to you if I had known.
Chops -I always buy the same black school socks so I can pair any of them together, saves loads of hassle.
Shabs- after spending last night awake and in tears due to ankle pain, I can sympathise with you, now GP has prescribed Tramadol, so hoping tonight will be better.
Went to the school today as M has lost his whole PE kit! All named, including bag and trainers, couldn't find it anywhere, but did find both his school sweatshirts he had lost! I have told the school I am not spending £40 on replacing it all yet, so will be sending him in with plain white redshirt and navy shorts and a tracksuit top instead of rugby shirt!
Oh,and J continues to be a pain in the arse!

triplets Tue 06-Nov-12 23:56:12

<<brrr jolly cold up here..............if only I had a slanket wink >>

I woke up yesterday this morning with my big fat bum out in the freezing cold bedroom......DK hogging the sheets and quilt.....glad I couldn't see my big fat bum cause I reckon it would have been a lovely shade of blue!!!!! Oh how I wish I had a slanket with the Man City badge on it.

Morning girls xx

Chopstheduck Wed 07-Nov-12 07:56:37

Morning girls x

Tramadol is great stuff, hopefully that will help. A friend gave me some, for after I had all my top teeth out, and it really was fab stuff. I still have some for emergencies!

I hate weds. I am tired and I want it to be thursday! Wed is the day of cross country, beavers and girls brigade. <<goes to put taxi light on car>>

bubby64 Wed 07-Nov-12 08:26:25

Slept for more than an hr at a time last night! First time this has happened for weeks, and I feel sooooo much better this morning.
I despair over Mike's memory, I sent him upstairs 3 times this morning to get his school sweatshirt, and 3 times he came back down without it! Also, has already missplaced the memorystick and his spare locker key i attached to his schoolbag with a chain yesterday, any ideas what i can do with him apart from staple things to his forehead?????

bubby64 Wed 07-Nov-12 19:14:39

Evening All - We have had Dr Jekyll James this evening,shock the pleasant, helpful boy that has been in hiding for the past week or so. Don't know why this is, and I am not questioning it, just basking in the peaceful atmospherewink

triplets Wed 07-Nov-12 19:32:11

Meanwhile at Peace Towers dd has been severely reprimanded angry

Chopstheduck Wed 07-Nov-12 20:31:04

Ooh do make the most of it bubby!

What's happened, trips?

bagpuss Wed 07-Nov-12 20:32:59

Oh dear trips, that doesn't sound good sad.

Bubby, that's good, I hope it continues!

I am as pleased as punch today. I had a lovely letter from ds1s school this morning, he has been put on the g&t register shock. It is the first I've heard of it but I am immensely proud grin. Just need to push encourage him on a bit now. It was target setting day, today which to a parent means your child with have half an hour in school and spend the rest of the day on his Xbox hmm. We survived though!

bubby - staple away love.....Tom lost/had stolen two full PE kits in year 7....including football boots, trainers, indoor kit, outdoor kit etc etc. hmm

Trips - you OK love? xx

Tomorrow Tom has two Advanced Maths GCSE exams.....one in the morning and one in the afternoon - which will not finish till 4.30pm (normal school hometime is 3.15) - then he has to get home, have his tea and we have to be at Bolton Albert Halls for 7pm for him to be presented with his GCSE Maths certificate from last year.....the thought of all that is making me feel knackered and I only have to go to the presentation with him!!!

triplets Wed 07-Nov-12 23:01:05

Well done Tomster, bright lad............just like his Mamsmile
Oh its dd again, I truly don`t know what to do with her. She was told not to brings friends home after school, she was to have a night in. So just after three the phone goes and she says she and her best friend are going to another friends house. I told her to come home but she didn`t. Then at 5pm she rings using friends phone as hers was here, asks what time she has to be back. I told her 6pm at the very latest. At 6pm she phones and says can she stay out longer as she is just sitting down to tea at her friends!! I was furious as her chicken dinner was in the oven, we all had fish and she doesn`t like it. I slammed the phone down on her. 40 mins later she swans in, no apology then goes upstairs and locks herself in the bathroom and runs the bath. Been in her room the rest of the night. What do I do? I feel like standing outside the school gate and escorting her home..............she`d love that! Trouble is there are 3 exits!!

Morning girls xx

Chopstheduck Thu 08-Nov-12 09:05:43

Morning girls x

trips, I would have gone out and physically hauled her back from her friends. I will not be defied, it makes my blood boil!

I overselpt today, been a mad rush! I think it's going to be another one of those manic day <<puts wine in fridge>>

bubby64 Thu 08-Nov-12 09:46:04

Oh Trips - She is really taking you for granted, isnt she, I think the time has come for a reality check, stop making her food unless she is actually present in the house at least 30 minute before the mealtime, and also present her with a bill for last nights ruined meal, and dock the apropriate amount from her pocket money! Or can you ring the friends Mum's and say please do not make my daughter welcome, as she has been told to come home after school? Also, if she brings friends home, be strong enough to just say, NO, unfortunatly it is not convenient to welcome you here tonight, and this may be the case in the future if she brings you home without warning again!
OK, R will sulk and be a stroppy madam, but that will not be much of a change from her normal behaviour of late, so you may as well stick to your guns and not have the hassle of either waiting for her to turn up or having the extra mouths to feed! Or you could alway go along the ultimate embarrassement route of ringing the school and asking her to be kept there until she is collected in person by yourself!
Shabs - Good Luck wishes are wafting their way to Tom as I type, and you must baske in the proud mum moment tonight, you deserve it!
Chops - I hate it when we have that "oh my God, we overslept" feeling, the whole day often seems a bit out of kilter after a bad morning, doesn't it?
Still got "nice J" this morning, he actually had a joke and hug with DH, and was nice to his brother as well, long may it continue. In the post this morning we had a postcard from his Form Tutor, saying how well he was doing at school etc. The school teachers usually only send these out if a pupil has done particularly well at a subject, or if they have been nominated for a Head Teachers award. M had one 2 weeks ago, so J really chuffed to get one himself today!

Chopstheduck Thu 08-Nov-12 09:49:41

aww well done J

It def is out of kilter, I jsut dopped my phone down the loo! sad It's sitting next to me now in a bag of rice, drying out and I going to have to wait 24 hours to see if it is still working or not.

Chopstheduck Thu 08-Nov-12 10:39:14

jsut testing, having problems posting <<ignore me!>>

bubby64 Thu 08-Nov-12 11:00:44

we could never ignore you Chops- hope it gets working properly!!

triplets Thu 08-Nov-12 14:09:06

I wonder where Chops isgrin

Sokmonsta Thu 08-Nov-12 21:04:38

spot cream gratefully received and thankfully applied. James has scabbed over. We thought hoped the twins were coming down with it but nothing. Could be another couple of weeks yet. Is it wrong to really want it over and done with? It must be a particularly nasty one as it's gone through everyone in preschool and has started in reception now (fingers crossed for Em). Certainly the worst the school has seen in a few years.

Shabba, hope you are feeling better now.

Trips, no advice as mine are still at peppa pig age and younger. Just thinking of you and hoping things settle down soon.

Looking forward to christmas in the sokmonsta house now. Christmas shopping nearly finished, parents invited and actually accepted. Husband not working christmas or boxing day. Thrilled grin

We also have progress on the twin front. Jennifer rolled. Not once or twice now but several times. So excited for her, especially as she rolls from back to front and back again huge relief at worrying for nothing

Joshua has decided to up his game though with the caterpillar commando crawl. Very slow, amusing but nonetheless effective. It really won't be long before he will be crawling all over the place.

<hands out copius amounts of chocolate from buy one get two free selection boxes to save herself and returns to online christmas and grocery shop>

Sokmonsta Thu 08-Nov-12 21:06:12

Noooo chops your poor phone! (James once put the sky remote in the fish tank and it worked fine once dried out in the airing cupboard) <hopeful>

Tom got 3 GCSE certificates at Presentation night tonight shock Its mainly for the year that left at Easter but there was about 20 kids from his year 11 who got certificates. He got French, Science and Statistics certificates - he wasn't expecting 3.

He must have told them he wants to be called Tom at school. His certificates say Thomas but when they called his name I just heard 'TOM' - couldn't help but grin. He is buzzing but exhausted. 2 x 3 hour exams in one day is not great....Maths teacher has promised them that in tomorrows Maths lesson they are having hot chocolate, home made cake and no Maths!!!! grin

Sokmonsta Thu 08-Nov-12 22:16:33

Oh congrats to Tom (and your good self Shabba).

I loathed maths. Dread any of the dc's being good at it as I'll be stuffed. But I'm liking the sound of his special maths treat lesson tomorrow. envy

He has a great Maths teacher....I said I bet Mrs Lynch was proud of you all today doing so much work - he looked at me and said 'she was....I can always tell - she gets all angry and shouty but then grins at you on your way out of the exam room????' LOL

bubby64 Thu 08-Nov-12 22:41:13

Oh, shabswell done to your Tom. I'm glad he is being treated tomorrow. Mike likes (and is good at) Maths, he is in the top stream at school, J could be there, but wont put the work inhmm. DH is also a maths guru, I just do enough to get me through, work out drug doses etc.
Soks What did we tell you! They will both get there in the end, they just need a little more timegrin I remember when J started to toddle, and M was still only rolling, they would work together to get over babygates, M would roll in front of it and J climb onto him to get enough height to climb over, and they continued to work together to get things done ever since (well, until recently anyway, now they cant agree on anything!)
Chops hope phone works soon.

triplets Thu 08-Nov-12 22:54:20

Oh well done TOMSTER, you have obviously worked hard for this, you have a very proud Mamsmile
God knows what mine will get with all the upheaval of the school closing, very worrying.
Got indigestion...............can`t really blame it on half a Picnic bar..........can I ?

triplets Thu 08-Nov-12 22:59:24

Socky, how old are you dt`s now? My trio were born at 32 weeks, James was only 2.15oz the other two were over 4lb. He was the last to do everything, 4 months behind Thomas is most things, but he got there. But guess what? Soon as they hit their teens, its James who is out in front, first to shave, first voice broken, etc. He is very mature, a young man, where as Thomas still seems a boy............strange isn`t it?

Morning girls xx

rubyrubyruby Fri 09-Nov-12 07:00:06

Good morning x

Thank god you posted Shabs as I had lost he thread. Well done to Tom grin

Hope everyone is ok, including DCs (sokm) and phones! (chops) grin

Trips - my DD is just a bit younger than yours = nightmare. Mine has taken to just shouting 'shut-up' at me whenever I say anything something she doesn't want to here.

Chopstheduck Fri 09-Nov-12 07:12:33

Morning girls x

sokmonsta, glad the twins are making progress now. Mine used to do the climbing on top of each other thing too. dt2 would stand on dt1 to get over gates, so we ended up with two gates on top of each other for their bedroom door! Put the top one upside down, and it was possible to open both and get in and out!

Though, it is scary how quickly they go once they start. DT2 used to climb on dt1 to get out of his cot, then he learned to get on top of the chest of drawers, then the window sill, then one nap time - how to OPEN the window and jump out! A neighbour knocked on the door, to tell me my toddler was outside, whimpering at the door - I thought he was still in his cot! I rushed up A&E convinced he had broken both his legs, but he was sooo lucky and got off with cuts and bruises!

Well done to Tomster, enjoy your hot chocolate and cake - very well deserved!

The phone is ALIVE!! Will not be taking that in the bathroom again! I've only had it a couple of months, so very relieved.

ha ha ha ha ha ha Tom got up, got dressed, had his breakfast and went out of the door without a single word.....On his way out he turned round and said (in teenager odd voice grunts) laters Mam....im sooooo tired....love you!

Have been thinking about my twins development. They were 2 weeks early (undiagnosed as twins until 10 days before I had them) and Danny weighed 5lbs 13 and Gareth 4lbs 1. Dannys development was fast and he was soon sitting up, rolling around etc etc. Dont know if it was Gareths heart problems that prevented him doing the same OR his birth weight????? Gareth finally managed to roll over just before he died at 7 months. Its so interesting for me to read all about your multiples....it used to make me jealous and sad but now I find it fascinating.

bagpuss Fri 09-Nov-12 11:04:46

((((Shabs)))), well done Tom too smile

This morning I have been reliving the tale of dt2s heart condition on another thread. It has just occurred to me that it is 9th November which is my 16th wedding anniversary. On my 4th wedding anniversary I spent the evening in our local a&e with ds1 who was 3 weeks old at the time. We ended up at AlderHey by midnight while he had emergency surgery to stabilise his heart. I cannot believe that is 12 years ago, also how much ds1 has come on and exceeded our expectations of him - amazing really but I feel quite sad remembering that time now.

Also, dh has forgotten our anniversary angry. Who said romance was dead?

My dts development has been a bit higgledy piggledy really, when one does something it quite often takes the other a while to get the hang of the same thing, but occasionally they can be evenly matched. There seems no reason for it though! Chops, OMG, mine have never climbed out of windows! How ever did you cope?

shock bagpuss - I either didn't know about your DS heart problems or I had forgotten. I know I am a nosey cow and tell me to sod off if you want, but what was wrong?

Gareth had two holes in his heart - one large and one a little smaller. He had pulmonary hypertension. He was a poorly little lad who almost always had a big grin on his face. Specialist told me that all babies are born with an extra valve which closes when they are born (my medical terminology is very poor, please bear with me) in Gareths case he thought that valve had remained open and thats what enabled him to get to almost 8 months of age. The whole multiples thing is something I find fascinating.

Midwife who delivered my twins inspected the placentas...Ewwww what a horrible job - she found on the side of one of them what looked like a tiny piece of coal.....in her opinion she said that suggested there had been a triplet that had not formed shock

rubyrubyruby Fri 09-Nov-12 11:26:56

It is interesting hearing all the twins stories. We get caught up in our everyday life and I tend to forget we all have that common link.

My DTs (b/g) now almost 14 and both bigger than me went to 39 weeks and I was then induced. They were (b) 6lb5oz and (g) 5lb10oz. I had a normal delivery and was home within 24hours - I know I am really lucky. Within 2 weeks DD weighed more than DS and still does although he overtook her in height about a year ago and is now nearly 6ft!

rubyrubyruby Fri 09-Nov-12 11:28:28

shock Chops at window incident. I never had that but did find one trying to flush the other down the toilet once grin

bagpuss Fri 09-Nov-12 11:59:46

No, it's ok Shabs, I wouldn't expect you to remember, i think I told the story ages ago but a quick recap:

Ds1 was born with transposition of the Great Arteries and needed an arterial switch op at 4 weeks old. As I said, he got to 3 weeks old before any healthcare professional had an inclination of anything being wrong. we had the mad dash to AH and then the surgery, which was new 12 years ago. Can't really say what the prognosis will be long term, but he looks and acts like a totally normal child, apart from the large scar on his chest. What I said further up thread about him being put on the high achievers register at school has us literally astounded because 12 years ago his sats were so low pre surgery that the doctors we saw said they couldn't rule out brain damage shock.

Dt2 was diagnosed with aortic stenosis after he was born, thought to be mild, but turned out to need some minor surgery to help him. Has been ok since but still needs 6 monthly appointments to check it doesn't get worse again. If it does then he will have another baloon catheter although the consultant did say that when he is fully grown a valve replacement might be a better bet.

I remember you saying about Gareth before. He sounds similar to ds1 wrt the extra valve being open. Ds1 owes his life to that really, he would have only lived days if it had closed when it was supposed to.

Still, we're all good for now, which I am very thankful for!

Chopstheduck Fri 09-Nov-12 12:40:10

Mine were 6lb and 6lb7, wonder if they are the biggest?!

I didn't know that about valves closing at birth. Ds1's didn't close for a few days, we had to go back to get it checked, never really thought too much about it at the time, still in a sort of after birth haze.

grin at the loo! Shay did try to shove rav in the washing machine once! Shay was a grumpy baby, never happy until he could move around, then he was like the tazmanian devil. He drank perfume, ate heart tablets (relative's house), jumped out of the window, poured gloss paint all over the patio, tried to climb up the chimney. I really couldn't take my eyes off him for a second. Still bloody can't - it was only last year he smashed the car into a brick wall!

They were such a shock after, quite, placid ds1!

Bagpuss shock I can imagine how worried you must have been....WOW he sounds like he is doing very, very well now. Kids are so frightening grin

I had never heard about the extra valve either, before Gareth. The coroner said that he was putting on the death certificate (as cause of death) Congenital heart defects but told me to ask the specialist about the extra valve.

I find the whole thing fascinating - am also proud of my little lad - because of what was learnt from his heart problems (and the problems of many other babies) many people are alive and kicking nowadays. We met a lovely lad years ago on holiday (still in touch) and he had the same condition as Gareth....he had been operated on and sorted out by the time he was 2 years old. At least through the sadness and the longing to see Gareth again....lots of massive strides have been made to treat heart problems.

bubby64 Fri 09-Nov-12 20:13:30

Hi. as I said before , my 2 were 29.5wks, M 4.4, J 3.3 had to come quickly because of twin to twin transfusion syndrome, causing M to have pulmonery hypertension with some heart failure(which is thought to be why he has now got Chronic benign Hypotonia, as this is usually caused by mum having high B/P, not child) J was anaemic and underdeveloped lungs. M had a CCam (growth in lung) found on scans as well, so he had a partial pneunectony at 2yrs 6m. Amazing how well they both are now, compared with how they were as babies.smile
Oh and we had a window incident too, a neighbour knocked on our door to say J was sitting on the windowsill dangling his legs out- I have never run up the stairs so fast, or entered the bedroom so quietly so I did not scare him!!

Morning girls xx

Bubby I hate those words pulmonary hypertension. The hospital only discovered my twins because I had been put on total bedrest because of my BP. Think they ran out of ideas and they sent me for an xray.....and thats when they found out there were 2!! I ended up in a single room, with blackout blinds - valium injections every four hours along with blood pressure checks. Ended up with pre-eclampsia. Dont think I have ever felt so poorly in my life....the only thing that brought the blood pressure down was an epidural (which I had insisted I DID NOT WANT). About 10 years ago I was put on tablets for BP as it was still high. Now it is controlled with beta blockers and dieuretics (wrong spelling). With Matt my blood pressure was higher than with the twins shock

When I had Tom I had very little morning s