31+4 with DCDA twins and just looking for a bit of companionship during the countdown...

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legallyblond Wed 31-Jul-13 17:07:12

.... That's it really!

I have an almost 3 yo DD (she'll be 2.11 if they arrive when anticipated) and am still working full time (10 hour days as a lawyer) and, just this week, the exhaustion has hit. I'm planning to work until 34 weeks and have an elcs booked for 37+3.... It feels a long way away!

I am starting to get nervous about it all (I have been nervous throughout though!):

- nervous about bf - I ebf DD until we did baby led weaning and then carried on bf until she was 2, but a bit scared it won't work with 2, also becasue no sign of leaking colostrum and much smaller boobs than last time... and I never pumped or gave DD a bottle (of either my milk or formula - she was a total boittle refuser), so will be clueless (and disappointed that I'm not giving them the same as DD) if bf doesn't work or they're in NICU...

- nervous they'll be permature - I really, really want to make it to 36 weeks at least and would LOVE for them to just wait until the elcs date (for practical reasons like childcare too!). I had a "scare" at 23/24 weeks when my cervix was v short so I had a cervical stitch to prevent them coming. It did the job (my cervix doubled in length and has stayed long) so I am VERY grateful for getting this far, but stilll.... I dread the thought of NICU...

- nervous about the elcs and the recovery - I had a natural birth last time (albeit with an episiotomy, so recovery wasn't a bed of roses) so have no idea really... plus there's DD.. eek! I have chosen elcs becasue (a) they're transvers and breech now; and (b) in any event, I am uncomfortable about the potentially avoidable risks of an induction gone wrong... (that is despite being induced with DD at 40+12 and it being ok - G&A only and episiotomy the only real complication)..

- nervous about life with a toddler and twins. Need I say more? Still, I keep telling myself, I know what to do with one, so worst case, I just do everything twice, right??? In a sense, I feel pretty confident about my mothering ways (basically the opposite of Gina Ford I'm afraid!), but do keep hearing everyone saying how awful it will be with twins and how I MUST get a routine. I actually loved the newborn stage with DD and found it pretty easy (bf was great for me), so I am nervous that my bubble is about to be burst...

I guess all this is normal but just wanted to vent / share! Plus share the ride with those in a similar position....

Hi littleomar

There are a few women in the ante natal section who are expecting twins in November.

Good luck!

littleomar Wed 25-Sep-13 14:11:40

Hello and congratulations on all the new arrivals.

I posted ages ago when everyone was a lot further along and suddenly I'm 31+4 so I thought I would see if anyone was still around to revive the thread.

I'm booked for induction on 1 November if they haven't arrived by then. My older two were a tiny bit early (3 days and 5 days) so I'm hoping I will go into labour spontaneously. Got high hopes for full moon on 19 October!

The pregnancy has gone smoothly until the last couple of weeks - I've hit a wall of exhaustion and my brain has stopped working. I've also got pregnancy diabetes and I'm slightly/very anaemic depending on which HCP is looking at the results.

My worry at the moment is the delivery - I need to talk through with the consultant how things work. I am worried about the usual stuff - I want to labour (and preferably deliver although I recognise that might not be an option) upright so I don't want to go straight to full epidural, also worried about forceps use which is being discussed on another thread now. I'm prepared for the possibility that T1, who is currently head down, might not stay that way, but I've made my peace with CS if that happens.

I've also been thinking about breastfeeding two - I went to a really useful TAMBA seminar last weekend and have started to consider the logistics of expressing if I need to go there.

Would love to hear from anyone else at the same stage.

Cheerymum Fri 20-Sep-13 19:30:34

We are all doing well, hopefully home tomorrow.
The girls were a little bit fragile - one with polycythaemia and both jaundiced, so I've had to shovel in extra fluid to help flush their little systems through a bit. We are awaiting a final set of blood tests and hopefully the paediatricians will give us the green light to take them home.
I feel euphoric and invincible - baby blues due in 24-48 hours I should think! But so so happy.
V glad we had the c-section - they might have struggled much more if they had a hard time in labour, so I should be very thankful really.
Hope all you others are doing ok - I know things will get harder when reality strikes xx

legallyblond Thu 19-Sep-13 11:03:34

Great Cheery! So glad you made the right choice.

I am also v happy with the elcs choice.... Twin two was footling breech and everyone has confirmed that if I had delivered twin 1 naturally, I would definitely, no doubt about it, have needed an emcs for twin 2....

Cheerymum Thu 19-Sep-13 09:43:50

Good thanks! Glad we opted for the C section in the end as there is some evidence of mild TTT in the babies, so it's a good job I didn't labour. V tired now! But euphoric that they are safely here x

legallyblond Thu 19-Sep-13 07:39:57

On and Cornwall, meant to say that I'll def be out of the house by 10!!!! School run at 8.15am, and went back to doing that yesterday!

legallyblond Thu 19-Sep-13 07:36:35

Well done Cheery!!!! How was it? How are you and they doing? Are they with you or in special care for a bit?

Also, Lingua, meant to say, re the top ups, is there any scope for convincing the powers that be (paeds?) that top ups if ebm would be sufficient.... Might be less loaded for you than topping up on formula. If Vally has gained again today, it's bye bye to top ups totally and we'll just be bf in demand.... Crossing everything!!

andadietcoke Thu 19-Sep-13 03:08:51

Congratulations!! Lovely names. How are you?

Cheerymum Wed 18-Sep-13 23:02:40

Just to let you guys know, Luisa and Carlotta were born yesterday afternoon. Approx 2 and 2.5 kg respectively. All doing well xx

legallyblond Mon 16-Sep-13 14:53:15

That's a lot of hoiking and pulling - four large surgeon hands in there did it!

legallyblond Mon 16-Sep-13 14:51:41

Twin 1 (Hugo) was also v engaged and there was a Lou of hoiking - it was literally a two man job!!!! But if you expect that, just breathe, and she'll be out before you know it. I didn't expect it so worried something might be wrong, but still didn't panic and just deep breaths... Took about 10 mins to get him out, then twin two popped out in 1 min!!

Cheerymum Mon 16-Sep-13 14:16:47

Thanks all for the advice, experience and support. I'm sure it will be ok. Bit worried about them hoiking twin 1 out as she's so low I have been able to feel her head in my bum for a couple of months and they can't even get an US picture/measurements of it because it's so far engaged!! But I'm sure it's nothing new for them. Have lined up support at home so should be alright. Just need to suck it up and get on with it now, I guess!

legallyblond Mon 16-Sep-13 10:29:11

Oh and really, really recommend taking arnica and peppermint oil from straight after the op. I didn't have the trapped wind problem, I think because of the peppermint oil tablets.

legallyblond Mon 16-Sep-13 08:58:33

Cheery, v little time but....

The pre op time (I was waiting for 5 hours) was surreal - take a book!

The op itself was cold and shivery and uncomfortable with lots and LOTS of tugging to get twin 1 our (he was engaged). I was achy but not at all nauseous at any stage during or after. By the end of the op, I couldn't exactly feel pain but it was achy as they did final stitches.

Post op I had them with me the whole time so did have to shuffle bend and pick up a bit. Same drugs as Anda. Honestly? First 36 hours were hard, especially the obligatory loo/shower trips. BUT, tell yourself (I didn't know this!) that by the same time tomorrow, you will feel totally fine, just a bit tender. Honestly! By 48 hours I was gone enough to walk to and from the hospital dining room, bend and pack my hospital bags, do all bathroom things etc etc. now, 6 days on, feel about 80% with dine pain only in awkward positions and at the end of the day.

Cornwall73 Mon 16-Sep-13 08:33:11

I always knew I was going to opt for a c section so was mentally prepared and gave me time to organise everything at home as well as family support for the first few weeks.

I managed to tandem BF in recovery with the help of pillows and very good student midwives. I felt numb and very achy but the thrilled hormones at having our very longed for babies with us just took over. When in the ward I was on pain killers and encouraged to stay in bed until the next morning when the catheter came out. My big problem was trapped wind which was utterly miserable and I had to have liquid morphine for. I also downed peppermint tea (not if you are BF) and started talking little walks around the ward to ease it all out. The scar out tender and I moved tenderly but the more I moved the better I felt. Coughing and s eezing hurt though so curl over a pillow! At home I had changing gear in the livng room, nursery and our bedroom - the first two at waist height to minimise bending. Recovery has been good and must say that we have been for little daily walks since day 5 and gradually built up to walks of an hour plus last weekend. A month on I feel pretty normal but feel I did over do the bending as have had the baskets on the living room floor for example and the muscles on the right hand side of my shoulder and back are painful by the evening. Good luck with your c section!

Legally congratulations on getting out!!

Cheerymum Mon 16-Sep-13 07:46:56

Oops double post

Cheerymum Mon 16-Sep-13 07:46:36

Thanks so much Anda, that's exactly the kind of experience/story I was after. I'm sure it won't be as bad as my worst fears, but I do feel really miserable and anxious about it. I know I just need to toughen up about it and focus on the bigger picture, but I'm finding that hard to do.
Reassuring that you already feel so much better. xx

Cheerymum Mon 16-Sep-13 07:46:08

Thanks so much Anda, that's exactly the kind of experience/story I was after. I'm sure it won't be as bad as my worst fears, but I do feel really miserable and anxious about it. I know I just need to toughen up about it and focus on the bigger picture, but I'm finding that hard to do.
Reassuring that you already feel so much better. xx

andadietcoke Mon 16-Sep-13 07:17:42

Hello lovely, I also had massive panics the day before my section. Fainted at the pre op from anxiety!!

So, my ELCS was delayed a little bit due to an emergency, but I was first on the list. I didn't like not being in control once the spinal was in, but the team were very good (although they did nearly forget to get DH!!). The actual procedure was fine. No discomfort other than shivering and some nausea but they controlled that with IV fluids.

So, recovery... I was given oramorph post-op, as well as paracetamol and ibuprofen. My ELCS was at 10am. I bf twin 1 on my back because I couldn't sit up back on the delivery suite. I remember sitting up on the ward and my bum was still numb so I couldn't shuffle up if that makes sense - it was that that stopped me rather than the pain. I slept well, with very little pain, but the girls were in NICU so I wasn't stretching to pick them up etc and could just sleep. At 5am the next morning they took the catheter out and I had to go in the shower. Standing up straight was challenging and I shuffled to the shower and back in a fair amount of pain. Other than that I was just wheeled down to NICU and back, but standing over the incubators hurt a lot - I think I over did it a little bit at that stage.

Saying that though, my wound has healed very well. I'm fully mobile and can run up and down the stairs, crawl around on the floor etc. I can stamp my emergency stop foot and jump off the bottom stair (tests my friend was given for driving after a csection). I would say that I was getting towards 100% - was probably 80% at discharge from hospital after 6 days. I do wonder though whether that's down to the girls being in NICU.

Cheerymum Mon 16-Sep-13 06:54:17

Quick question - those who have had an elective section - how have you found it? I am heading that way fast and it is NOT what I wanted at all - but my obstetrician is not at all keen on induction with MCDA twins as there is an unquantifiable risk to twin 2 (I agree, no data I can find to support its safety) and I don't dare just wait and see because of the small but significant risk of late stillbirth which climbs from here with MCDA, so it seems to be my least worst option unless I go into labour today. No signs so far.
How was the wound in the early days with twins, and the first part of the recovery? Need some reassurance really.

Cheerymum Mon 16-Sep-13 00:31:13

Wow legally, that is an amazing achievement! I am seriously impressed!
Tuesday section for me, and I'll be joining all you twin mommas on the other side xx

It gets better, those first 3 months are dark! "What have I done" entered my mind plenty of times! I found that the shock wore off around week 14. Different things become difficult. I am now trying to chase after two of them around the living room!

Woohoo! Well done! Good for you. And I am seriously impressed at the getting dressed thing. I was in pjs for at least 5 weeks. I left the house about 3 times in the first month!

legallyblond Sun 15-Sep-13 14:29:57

Thanks guys.... Good to hear you say that. Feeling better today. Hugo is gaining again, Valentina now lost 6% but they're not worried and I can officially ditch the formula! Just ebm top ups. And I (alone) got me, DD and the twins dressed and breakfasted by 9am today.... School run for DD will be 8.20am, but I don't need to do that myself for a couple of weeks...

Cheerymum Sun 15-Sep-13 10:39:56

Such a relief that its not just us - I already feel sad for the loss of the singleton experience we had planned on, and ours aren't even coming out until Tuesday (probably). Am a bit worried about bonding and so on because I do feel resentful about a shitty pregnancy, a c section I don't want, and the exhaustion to come. Am sure we'll adore them in due course but the temptation to leave one at the hospital creeps into my mind every now and then!!

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