scared.....

(38 Posts)
butterfly86 Tue 25-Dec-12 16:02:29

This is my 3rd pregnancy this year (no children)the last 2 have been mmc. Im about 6 weeks and today i went to the toilet and when i wiped there was ever so slight pink discharge, its light brown now and i really have to look to see it but im just petrified. I have no experience of natural miscarriage ive had erpc both times i just cant help worrying any advice would be much appreciated x

rhondajean Tue 25-Dec-12 16:05:32

I don't know if its any help but I saw you and wanted to reply, this happened with my dd2 but more so and she's 8 now. I would call your midwife team, there will be someone on call and they can advise or reassure as needed, good luck but please don't panic. Xx

Just here to give you a hug butterfly, no advice although I have had three miscarriages in the last two years, the only thing I can say is just wait, it could very well be a normal discharge, so hang on in there for now and feet up. Xxx

butterfly86 Tue 25-Dec-12 17:16:32

Thank you to both of you im not registered with a midwife yet i do have a scan with my consultant though on 4th jan beacause of previous miscarriages i dont know if i should wait until then if it stops. God i hate theses early weeks its so stressful and it drags i dont think i could bear it if it happened again x

rhondajean Tue 25-Dec-12 17:24:32

It is awful, I have high risk pregnancies and the second in particular was very stressful. Ill keep my fingers crossed, try if possible to relax ( daft to say I know)

TheAccidentalExhibitionist Tue 25-Dec-12 17:40:58

I'm holding your hand here and wishing you a very sticky baby.
Sorry that this has happened today, I know the worry you must be going through and it's awful.

ItsIgginningToLookALotLikeXmas Tue 25-Dec-12 17:42:09

A GP or early pregnancy unit at hospital could do hcg tests for you to see if levels rising or falling. Sometimes they are keen to do this to rule out ectopic pg.
I have had a discharge such as you describe with all my pgs - four times it was, sadly, a mc, but twice all was well and I had the babies.
Two years ago on Christmas day I started bleeding in the evening and lost another baby - today I'm spending the day with a 7 month old baby.
Not sure if any of that is reassuring! Trying to say the discharge could be nothing, and even if you've had previous mmcs it doesn't mean you will not have your baby. Good luck x

butterfly86 Tue 25-Dec-12 19:04:19

I think ill see what happens tomorrow if i get anymore ill ring up, as you ladies know 10 days is a hell of a long time when you are in this position. Having a little cry at the min why does it have to happen on christmas day of all bloody days- itslgginning im sorry that happened to you on christmas day i know you now have your baby but you must always remember. My dp is so positive but its hard for me to be i just associate spotting with mc, it is only a tiny tiny bit now light brown and isnt there everytime i wipe im going to keep my feet up and fingers crossed xx

Chottie Tue 25-Dec-12 19:08:20

I've had 3 miscarriages (but now have 2 dc). I had a mini bleed like you describe with DC2. I am not a medical expert, but I just wanted you to know that the same thing happened to me and all was well.

ItsIgginningToLookALotLikeXmas Tue 25-Dec-12 19:09:09

I don't think your miscarrying. I think brown is usually a good sign. They always asked me if it was red.
If the worst does happen, as you will have had 3 recurrent mcs, you can ask for tests to be done now - not much of a bright side, but can lead to a solution!

butterfly86 Tue 25-Dec-12 20:15:41

I think i just always think any spotting = miscarriage because with both my mmc brown spotting was the first sign but further on 9&10 weeks hopefully im worrying for nothing x

Mytimewillcomebutwhen Tue 25-Dec-12 20:20:41

Butterfly - you could phone your out of hours gp tomorrow and explain how much it's upsetting you esp as it's your third PG with 2MC. I was very distressed and tearful while talking to my gp on the phone this week for exactly the same thing and he arranged an emergency referral to epu. in my previous PG with DS, now 2, I had bloods and a vaginal scan done at five and a half weeks so it's not too early for them to see you. I would stress that you couldn't stand waiting over this time of year.

i'm really hoping for the best for you x

butterfly86 Tue 25-Dec-12 20:34:55

Mytime- i will do that tomorrow i think i might phone epu direct as ive already got an app and they might see me earlier. What happened with you when you went to epu hope all was well x

TheAccidentalExhibitionist Wed 26-Dec-12 09:48:38

How are you doing Butterfly?

Mytimewillcomebutwhen Wed 26-Dec-12 10:04:58

Butterfly - thinking of you. Hope today goes well for you x

butterfly86 Wed 26-Dec-12 12:44:22

Hi ive been to hospital this morning not good news my beta hcg was right down the doctor actually questioned the accuracy of the pregnancy tests but how can 5 be wrong including a clearblue digital plus ive had all pregnancy symptoms! All i can think is its implanted but never got started. She said i should see my consultant to investigate some more so i shall be doing that. Cant believe it xx

TheAccidentalExhibitionist Wed 26-Dec-12 12:47:45

I'm so sorry to hear that awful news, especially over Christmas. The tests weren't wrong, that's just something they say. Get yourself to the GP as soon as you can and get referred to the recurrent miscarriage clinic.
Take care of yourself.

butterfly86 Wed 26-Dec-12 13:23:42

Thanks accidental, i felt like i'd made it all up but i know i was pregnant. I definately need something doing about it thats 3 in a row in the space of 9 months, im pleased in a way its happened earlier its been much harder when we have gotton to 10 weeks with the last one. what upsets me the most is how dissapointed everyone else is my dp my parents and inlaws im upset for them more than me i think i must have hardened to it i know that sounds awful but i think you do prepare yourself for the worst x

TheAccidentalExhibitionist Wed 26-Dec-12 13:35:06

Butterfly, I've had 5 MC, two were early like yours, all with dark brown discharge, none with bright red blood.
I started to worry that I was making it up when the doctors questioned my pregnancy tests. I guess it took me a few days to accept I'd had another.
I too was relieved that they were early MC, much much easier to go through than the later ones when you start to hope and let yourself relax and get attached.
The grief may still come, it's such early days. Be gentle on yourself and any emotions that arrive.
It's a sad reflection of how resilient you have become when you feel hardened to them.
Do some research to find out the best hospital to be referred to, it makes a lot of difference. In fact research is key, consultants will often give you only what you ask for in terms of treatment. Good luck.

butterfly86 Wed 26-Dec-12 14:01:57

So sorry you have had 5 mc thats awful, did you get any answers after that many? I am under a consultant beacause i paid privately after the 2nd mc she has now transferred me on to her nhs list but its not a recurrent mc clinic she does specialise in that area though. I've had basic tests done-thrombophilia screen and checked for inherited tendancies. I dont know what the next step would be regarding tests but i will do some research so i know the kinds of things to ask for, we do need some answers though x

TheAccidentalExhibitionist Wed 26-Dec-12 14:30:51

No answers for us but on reflection we didn't chose the best place or the best specialist. We went to the place with the smallest waiting list.
Our consultant did all the regular tests but wouldn't go further than that.
Have a look on the thread entitled TTC or pregnant on Prednisolone (sorry cant link). If all the tests come back negative you could look at asking to be tested for high natural killer cells or using Prednisolone during early pregnancy.
Fingers crossed this may be the next stage for us.
Good luck

butterfly86 Wed 26-Dec-12 15:09:21

Thanks ill have a look on that thread. Ill keep my fingers crossed for you too.
Good luck x

ItsIgginningToLookALotLikeXmas Wed 26-Dec-12 15:47:00

Very sorry to hear your news. How unfair sad I agree with pp that your pg tests weren't wrong - what an odd thing for them to say - do they think that would make you feel better?
I am a prednisilone graduate, don't think I'd even have heard of it except for threads on mumsnet.

Mytimewillcomebutwhen Wed 26-Dec-12 16:03:31

Oh butterfly. I'm sorry. Take care of yourself xx

butterfly86 Wed 26-Dec-12 17:33:45

Thank you to all of you, i dont know why they said that but it made me feel as if they thought i was just a mental miscarrier and had imagined the whole thing-i did not those tests were positive. "pregnant 1-2" is not a mistake! I am worried that my consultant won't take this mc seriously now. I've had a quick look on prednisolone threads i dont know if anyone can link to one they were on for me? Im still just brown bleeding when i wipe and not much in the way of cramping, im tempted to do the other clearblue digi i have to just see what it says but maybe im just torturing myself i just can't understand how i could have a positive on sat night then bloods be right down today when i haven't passed anything as such x

TheAccidentalExhibitionist Wed 26-Dec-12 18:04:11

Are you bookedto go to the EPC?
It sounds like the MC hasn't started yet. IME the MC at this stage was like a period but carried on for about 8-10 days. Of course it's different for everyone.
Won't the EPC want to scan you until you're all clear?

butterfly86 Wed 26-Dec-12 18:56:58

I am booked in on the 4th of jan but that was booked before this happened and that was for an early scan so ill have to cancel, the doctor today just sent me off and that was that as far as she was concerned im not pregnant now because my levels were right down i dont know if she meant really low or 0. I honestly thinkshe didn't acknowledge it as a pg she thought id had false positives but still suggested i see my cons im just so confused x

ItsIgginningToLookALotLikeXmas Wed 26-Dec-12 20:46:51

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1552980-TTC-or-pregnancy-on-prednisolone-or-similar-part-9
There you go. It's in Conception section, along with some other threads about tttc after mc.
Happy to answer any questions you might have about pred, and/or read back through the threads (9!) and you'll find out loads.
IME blood levels of hcg have dropped prior to bleeding/miscarrying starting.

butterfly86 Wed 26-Dec-12 20:53:52

Thank you for that ill have a read through it. Think things are starting now ive got bright red blood and had a couple of stringy bits, if im honest im frightened dont know what to expect and how much ill pass at this stage at least with an erpc its all done for you.....

ChoccyPud Wed 26-Dec-12 21:11:26

Butterfly I just wanted to say sorry for your loss especially at this time of year. I'm dealing with (hopefully) the final throes of my 7th mc. I've been where you are - the worst thing is the unpredictability and feeling of total lack of control. Do make sure you take time for yourself. And rest as much as you can.

I'd say that at 6 weeks its unlikely you'll have much more than a longer/heavier period. You may have some bits that look like chopped liver. It may be that your body absorbs everything.

I'd suggest you keep the scan appt on 4 Jan - they can check things are moving along and that there isn't anything left to come out. It'll set your mind at rest.

I was going to refer you to the Pred Thead but Iggi got there first! <waves to Iggi - love the Xmas nc>. There's a lot of info thru the 9(!) threads. It's rather quiet ATM but if you go back to the start there's lots of info about natural killer cells and tests and specialists. Not all medics believe but NKCs can be a major factor in early mc's before 9/10 weeks which is when the placenta takes over.

Take care of yourself x

butterfly86 Wed 26-Dec-12 22:01:17

Oh choccypud 7mc you poor thing im sorry. It's so shitty isn't it i cant understand how anybody actually has a baby when this happens to so many women. My consultant said last time that the chances of it happening a 3rd time were slim but now im in the minority what next. I think ill ring epu tomorrow and see what they suggest, i will mention nk cells when i see her ill tell her i read about it on here she was the one who directed me to this site! X

ItsIgginningToLookALotLikeXmas Wed 26-Dec-12 22:12:59

Hi Choccy lovely to see you but very pissed off you are not having a better time angry
Butterfly Choccy's advice is good, 2 of my mcs were around 6 weeks and they were not too difficult physically. Try not to worry about that side. If you keep the scan date they should be able to see that it's complete.

TheAccidentalExhibitionist Thu 27-Dec-12 08:30:57

Butterfly, how are you doing? It natural to feel scared of miscarrying.

butterfly86 Thu 27-Dec-12 09:10:55

Hi im ok i've got up this morning and everytime i go to the toilet now theres bits of stuff coming away just small bits though and the blood is really dark brown. I'm a little bit crampy but no worse than period pain i have to go to work today and im there until 7 tonight so hoping it doesnt get any worse, i'm still scared it's just the unknown x

coco2303 Fri 28-Dec-12 10:22:30

Sorry for all of your losses sad.I wanted to as BUTTERFLY any news for you??the same thing happened to me although I was bleeding to the point I was changing a pad twice in an hour.they took the hcg said it was low so miscarrying.however went back to confirm miscarriage and the levels increased.my dates were wrong that's why hcg was so low.I am now 10 weeks and 4 scans later all with heartbeats.I have bled red blood every fortnight but my baby is still there.I am high risk as I have had 3 miscarriages and a stillborn daughter 20 weeks ago. So there is hope for you so just wanted to know how its going???

butterfly86 Fri 28-Dec-12 13:31:10

Hi coco wow thats amazing! Sorry for your other losses though :-( Im still bleeding red blood but it's not bad to be honest yesterday i was quite crampy and had a few "bits" come away,I wouldn't call them clots at all. Don't have much in the way of cramps today i was really expecting more than this! I was told i needed to go to epu yesterday and to go to a&e to be fasttracked, i sat for 2 hrs then they changed their mind and sent me home i was fuming but i've been told to still keep my app at epu with my consultant on jan 4th not that i'll be pregnant by then but still need to speak to them. My urine sample was negative again yesterday they said so i've no idea what's going on with my stupid body x

coco2303 Fri 28-Dec-12 13:56:56

BUTTERFLY I keep my fingers crossed for you I really do I know how hard it is to miscarry and also give birth and not have a baby to bring home sad. I don't know what other advise to offer and when I have bled during this pregnancy it has been really heavy for a day but stops.the first time I bled I was in a lot of pain but I think my body was confused.but like I said I thought I was miscarrying and I have miscarried before so I know what its like.but so far so good.we always think of the negative but I really hope you have a positive xx

butterfly86 Fri 28-Dec-12 20:30:07

Coco i pray this time it goes well for you, you certainly deserve it after all you've been through even with this pg. Here's hoping my consultant can shed some light when i see her! Xx

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