Hello,

I would really appreciate any advice as I am currently worried sick.

I tested positive last Friday and went to gp yesterday who when I told her I had suddenly had unexplained really bad pain in my left shoulder an cramping under my rib cage. I promptly got sent straight to the EPAU where the first doctor we saw told us it was probably fine and at 4 -5 weeks would be to early to see anything.

I then had an internal scan which they said they couldn't see the embryo either in the uterus or out.

Finally they took blood for a hcg test which came back last night with what they described as very low (93).

I am due to go back tomorrow for another hcg test to compare.

I just want to know what's going on and what the chances are that it may just be too early to see? Any idea about when it should show on a tv scan and what a worringly low hcg level is at this point?

Don't know whether I should be keeping a glimmer of hope or preparing myself for the worst?

i had this with ds, at 6 weeks bleed and pain, no heartbeat, so hcg was 20000, it doubles roughly every 48hours, so please remember i was slightly further on!

thur 20,000
sun 23,000 (could not go on the sat as it was our wedding day!)
tues 25,000

everything pointed to an ectopic and then at 7 weeks 5 days they detected a heartbeat

i was told i beat all medical belief and should not have been preg! so there is always hope, i really am not trying to get your hopes up, but just explaining what happened to me just remember the hormones double roughly every 48hours, in a normal women, and if they dont you may be like me

hth mt3 x

Hi

Please see link for HCG levels: http://www.pregnancyloss.info/hcg_levels.htm

You are within range for your weeks. Also, please note how massive the ranges are for each time point. A single HCG doesn't tell you anything without the second. I really hope all is fine for you.

I would say 4-5 weeks is too early to see a heartbeat. A sac will be visible
and so don't expect to see much.

I am having a missed MC at the mo - at 9 weeks, they could see a baby measuring 5-6 weeks. I also had HCG tests which showed a fall and so it was conclusive for me.

mumto3 - amazing story!

All the best.

Thank you both for your messages, I really appreciate it.

MT3, that's so good to hear- thank you for giving me some hope. After everything they told us I was losing it abit but not going to give up yet!

Sh77, thanks for the link, really useful and shows what a massive range there is...having more bloods tomorrow so fingers crossed.

I think they were worried that they should be able to see the sac by now but can't see anything but I have heard that sometimes you can't see anything until hcg hits 1000.

I am really sorry to hear you sad news Sh, are you doing ok (as well as can be hoped)? Thinking of you x

Thanks. I have had 2 weeks to come to terms with it. It is a tragic thing to experience but I just want to move on, which is a bit tricky as the natural loss is taking a while. I don't want any surgical intervention and hope that nature will be kind to me in just getting in with it.

I really hope all goes well for you. Please let us know. xx

sh77 - i am so sorry to hear will keep my fingers crossed that you are okay

please let us know how you both get on

Hello,

after a sleepless night the hospital called this morning to confirm my hcg has risen to 153 so not doubled but going in the right direction so more blood tests tomorrow. Feel ok about it not doubling given your experience mt3 as long as it is on the up.

I haven't had any more pain just a few cramps so I am hoping and praying that we maybe just maybe be blessed.

How are you today Sh? X

That is encouraging news. Not everyone will have text book doubling. Fingers crossed for you.

I am a bag of misery. Bleeding is still stop start but each time is getting a little heavier. I just want things to get moving faster otherwise I am going to have to consider alternatives on Monday.

Sh, sorry your feeling so down. It must be so hard to deal with not knowing how long it will physically take.

Is there anything natural you can eat or drink to help at all or something that your gp can help with?

I hope you're ok and you have someone looking after you? X

hey guys I'm really feeling for you right now, just gone through an ectopic for over a month now,I really hope things are both ok for you, I'm going to send positive vibes your way...good luck..xxxxx