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Other people acting like nothing's happened (just sounding off really)

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eastegg · 17/09/2015 12:00

I lost my baby 5 weeks ago tomorrow, at 16 weeks. Nobody knew about the pregnancy apart from family, partly because of problems in the pregnancy which meant there was only a two week window when we thought everything was OK before we were told the baby had died. So already having issues over who to tell and how and feeling increasingly like I want to shout it from the rooftops because I'm sick of hiding it.

Anyway, visited ILs last week. It was the first time I'd seen them or spoken to them since the mc, we were there for a good few hours, there were times when the kids weren't around and it wasn't mentioned at all. I came away thinking this is how it's going to be isn't it from now on, everybody just forgetting about it. I should say my PILs were around looking after the kids the weekend of the mc and there was a brief 'how are you' phone call to me during the day after my discharge, it's my SIL and family we were visiting.

Just sounding off really and feeling fed up, it's not like I want to be the centre of attention but this is weird. It almost makes me feel did I really go through hell/ am still going through hell or have I have I dreamt it??

I'm still getting round to deciding who to tell and how but this has made me feel I want to tell more people, so far it's only my mum and DH I talk to.

It's such a specific and unusual type of grief isn't it, you carry it found all the time but you can't mention it in the same way you would if say a relative had died or something, not that I'm in any way saying that's a better thing to happen.

As I say just sounding off a bit, but anyone else feeling the same way?

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eastegg · 17/09/2015 12:02

Carry it round not found.

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Teakind · 17/09/2015 20:50

Hi east, so sorry to hear of your loss. You're right, it is an unusual type of grief and the sadness can be overwhelming. It's such traumatic time and often you carry it around like a secret.

My in-laws are the same and i find it really hard to understand so i know where you are coming from. I've tried to give them an 'in' to ask before incase they felt awkward bringing it up but still nothing. We've had two losses and are currently undergoing investigations, which they know about but don't mention.

Have they spoken to your partner? Do you usually have a close relationship with them? Also, if they didn't have any losses themselves then they may not be able to understand just how truly awful it is. I know i didn't until it happened to me. I knew it was sad but didn't realise how traumatic it is.

I hope you can have some time to take care of yourself and again, i'm really sorry for your loss

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eastegg · 17/09/2015 22:45

Thanks tea. I'm really sorry for your losses and I hope the investigations help.

I'm not emotionally close to my ILs but we see them quite a lot and have been on holiday together, that sort of thing, in fact we were on holiday with them when we told them at 13 weeks. When I think that I had to travel abroad 2 days after having CVS in order to go on holiday with them when I really wanted my own mum it actually makes me quite cross that SIL can't find some simple words of condolence to say. If she's close enough to be told of the pregnancy in difficult circumstances she could be offering a bit of sympathy. She's in no way a reticent or inarticulate person btw.

Sorry this is turning into a rant! We should just be focussing on looking after ourselves shouldn't we. I really do hope you find some answers which help you and that you get through this.

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redjam · 19/09/2015 07:35

I experienced similar and it was so hurtful. Feeling about as bad as I ever had and people around me talking as if nothing had happened. In our culture miscarriage is shielded in secrecy and it just leaves women suffering and feeling unsupported.

My mil didn't even ask me how I was. I couldn't believe it and it's damaged our relationship.

After having had 4 miscarriages now, but also thankfully my lovely daughter I somehow feel stronger in talking about it. Whereas before I didn't mention it, now I'll be much more open and matter of fact about what happened. When people ask if we want more children I'll say yes but it's not straightforward as we've had miscarriages.

I'm so sorry for your loss, it sounds awful. It's so shitty that it's not been mentioned and that you haven't got more support.

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KittyandTeal · 20/09/2015 17:07

I'm so sorry for your loss.

My pil are the same. We lost dd2 at 22 weeks. My mil said to me a few months after 'so are you over all that stuff drop the start of the year' my reply was 'you mean R being born? No, I'll never get over it up we will learn to be ok with it'

She cried and I fumed. After that I decided that my dd2 will NOT be one of their weird family things that never gets spoken about but spoken around (like bil affair and marriage breakdown. We all pretend he's never been married now)

I now make sure I refer to dd2 at least once while they're around, just in passing, as conversation. A bit like 'oh gosh yes, I really went off X when I was pregnant with R' type thing. Or a 'we did X but of course we weren't expecting to be able to now as R should be with us'.

I am determined to normalise speaking about her, she is my second daughter and she will not be forgotten!

They still find it a bit odd but I have found that mil has spoken of her sister after me talking about dd2 a bit more (her sister died of cancer about 10 years ago but you'd never know she had a sister, she never talks about her. Her choice but I think it's more fil doesn't know how to handle emotion and so she's just kept quiet about it all)

I'm so sorry you're going through this, it makes a horrid time so much harder Flowers

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amymb86 · 20/09/2015 23:34

I have felt exactly the same thing. It's 5 weeks since I miscarried at 11 weeks and I feel like it's all I think about. Only a handful of people know about it but at least four or five are behaving like I've lost my keys instead of a baby, including both my parents and my mil. I know my situation could have been worse and I could have been ttc for a long time or been further along when I found out, but it is still a big deal to me. I told one of my friends who said she was sorry and then started to tell me how exhausted she was doing this new fitness regime. I know it's selfish but I just felt like shouting I DON'T CARE! I've found that the most supportive people are those who have been through something similar themselves.

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amymb86 · 20/09/2015 23:39

Ps. You are definitely not sounding off. It's an awful thing to have to go through, emotionally and physically. This is why forums like these can be life savers, you can get your feelings across to people who have been through similar things.

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GoulashSoup · 21/09/2015 13:01

egg, I am so sorry for your loss. My own experience is different to yours as I didn't get as far and I didn't have the trauma of going through CVS, but I relate to how you are feeling. It is just utterly utterly sad. I have had several friends go through miscarriage but never realised how heartbreaking it is. I have made an active decision to talk about the miscarriage openly, partly because I am consumed in it, but also because I want to break the taboo. Miscarriage is so common but just hushed away. I understand if you don't want to talk about it, but I wouldn't not in order to avoid making others feel awkward. Sometimes you have to be a bit selfish.

Having said all that, I am talking about it and have a very supportive husband and family (mostly), but I still feel so utterly alone. I just want to shout STOP, MY BABY DIED AND YOU ARE ALL CARRYING ON AS THOUGH NOTHING HAS CHANGED. I feel so overwhelmed by the sadness that I feel like someone is sitting on my chest and I can't breath. Three months on I keep dreaming that I'm bleeding again.

For now life goes on, it has to. I am taking Kitty's approach and acknowledging my child and pregnancy so that it doesn't get swept under the carpet. I hope that this sadness gets easier.

Please sound off as much as you need to Flowers.

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caza25 · 23/09/2015 20:25

I am in the same situation I told my close freind and friends and othe than the intial how are you, no-one has ever mentioned it again or asked how I am doing. It is really hurtful, but I think it is true you never fully understand until you have been through it. It has damged my relationship with my family and friends but I am sure it will all work out ok in the end. Maybe one day they will realise what they have done has been very hurtful.

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Sighing · 24/09/2015 21:01

Sorry for your loss Flowers, it is so hard to not express yourself with those yoi believe you're close to. It has massively damaged my relationships with my mother and some friends having had 3 miscarriages over a year, because I am unable to be genuine / they really don't want to discuss it (I have been firmly closed down in fact). As a result I am now 17+6, terrified and my husband and 1 friend are the only people I can really express how it is to. Because this pregnancy is coloured by the previous losses, every milestone amazing and terrifying. I told my husband I'd tell them after the 20 (21) week scan. But I find myself creating excuses already.
The need to acknowledge loss is part of the process of moving to acceptance. It shocks me thst apparently emotionally sensitive people can clam up because of their discomfort.

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eastegg · 24/09/2015 22:55

Thanks everybody for posting, it helps to hear about your experiences. I'm so sorry about your losses.
Sighing, As someone who had 2 previous straightforward pgs and then this loss at 16 weeks I can now just about begin to imagine how scary it must be for you, I really wish you all the best.

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TwinklyMusic · 25/09/2015 12:42

Hi eastegg, I'm going through my third mc at the moment and have learned that I will only get any real understanding from those who have been through it themselves.

It really is a strange taboo in our society. I hate being made feel uncomfortable about going through this grief. I now find myself clamming up and not wanting to tell anyone.

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AliceDoesntLiveHereAnymore · 25/09/2015 12:52

So sorry for your loss.

I've had five miscarriages, and with the first 2, I really struggled with this blank wall that seemed to come up with others. I finally figured out that for quite a few people, they don't know what to say or are worried about saying the wrong thing, so they say nothing or avoid talking about it entirely as they think they may upset you. And to be fair, sometimes just someone asking me if I was okay was enough to send me into floods of tears.

By the third time, I brought it up and talked about it, encouraged by a work supervisor that went through the same thing and brought it up to talk about it. She seemed to feel better talking about the baby and the loss, and I noticed that when she brought it up, people did talk with her about it.

It's not that they don't care, but sometimes they just don't know what to do and don't want to make it worse for you by bringing it up. I sent a card to a friend that lives a bit away when she had a miscarriage, making sure to include her DH's name on it and include him in the message, and she contacted me back and said it meant a lot as nobody had acknowledged his grief at all. It's such a minefield of what to say and what not to say, I think.

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customercare · 25/09/2015 13:14

I also went through 4 miscarriages. After the first one met with silence from my friends, I didn't tell them about subsequent pregnancies as their reaction to the first had been so incredibly hurtful. They all sailed through several pregnancies and i must admit that I wished that at least one of them would also miscarry at some point just so I wouldn't feel so alone. One of them said to me (while sitting in front of me in the full bloom of 6 month pregnant) that it was only a few cells so not really a baby. I could have slapped her but didn't say anything because it choked me up. My mother said that she hoped I would get over my 'disappointment' and never mentioned it again.
The only one who showed me any kindness was my lovely GP who said she had also had a miscarriage in the past and that however many weeks pregnant you are, you invest hopes and dreams in the baby which are then cruelly dashed when you lose it.

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TwinklyMusic · 25/09/2015 14:03

Yes customercare, I've had similar experiences. It seems to be one or the other - complete empathy and understanding from those unlucky enough to know what it feels like, or a mixture of awkward sympathy and/ or completely tactless comments from those who haven't had the experience.

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Northernlight22 · 25/09/2015 16:50

Similar here. It's 6 weeks yesterday since I learned about my loss and it's still painful. It's hard when everyone else is back to normal but I'm not.

I think I've been my own worst enemy though because for the first few weeks I just got my head down and moved on, getting on with normal life. Now it feels that it's time for me to face into it and everyone else has moved on.

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