2 embryos, no heart beat, stopped developing at 6 weeks, I'm now 8 weeks and haven't miscarried yet - don't know what to do - help!

[zebedeethezebra]

I'm 8.4 (or was I suppose) today, but 2 days ago I had brown spotting. Went to EPU yesterday and had a scan and they found 2 embryos with no heart beat which only measured 6 weeks. Life is shit isn't it sometimes?

I'm not bleeding properly yet, when will it start? All I've got is brown so far, no fresh red stuff. I'm hoping it will all come naturally and soon.

They also said that they could speed it along with some drugs. Does anyone know what these do? Do they rescan before you take them just to double check? How long do they take to work?

They also said I could have a D&C but I don't want that if pos.

I had a normal MC at 4+6 which was just like a normal period. Will it be worse this time as I was further along?

I don't know what to do. We're going on holiday on 7 September and want it all over by then.

I've got a couple of days off because the nanny is on hols, but I'm supposed to be at work on Thursday and its quite important. We've got a pile of guests coming next Saturday to stay overnight and its been really difficult to arrange, so I don't want to let them down either. I've got a heap of cooking to do which I was planning on doing on Friday which is my day off. To be honest, they will help me take my mind of it, and I don't want to cancel and then have to explain to them why. Apart from my mum no one knows I was pregnant.

I'm totally at a loss what to do. Has anyone else been in this position? What do you think I should do? I wish I could just start bleeing.

[create]

Hello zebedee. I'm afraid I can't answer your questions, but wanted to bump this for you.

I really think you need to speak to your GP though and get some proper advice on what the possible drugs are and how long they would take.

Very sorry for your situation, you sound very brave to be even contemplating the coming week.

[escapeartist]

Not exactly the same situation, but had a mmc at 10 weeks (baby had died at 8.4) I wasn't given any option apart from an ERPC and in fact I was glad it happened that way. It felt like once I knew I was not carrying a live baby I was pretty keen to get closure and move on and the ERPC helped. I know you said you do not want a D&C but do discuss it ith your dr. It can be a relief to know you can start again.
I m having a natural miscarriage at the moment, at 6.4 and pretty terrified of what might come...

[cleanandclothed]

I had the drugs. I was confirmed by 2 scans a week apart, but it was after 2nd I went to epu so don't know what procedure is after just one. You take a pill the morning of your choice, and another vaginally 48 hours later, and it normally happens 2 hours or so after that. My miscarriage then lasted 4 hours or so. Miserable for those 4 hours and then washed out for at least another 2 days. So sorry for you, yes life can be rubbish at times . Ask away if any more questions

[bigun1]

Hi,
The medication are tablets taken 24 hours apart, they will induce the loss and this will be over within 12-24 hours. I had to go into hospital for the second tablet, and for pain relief.
It was very very painful.
If you leave things to nature, which i have done too, it is very unknown when it will happen, the bleeding could become heavier tomorrow or in a weeks time, or when your guests arrive.
For me, miscarriage at 6-9 weeks was excruciatingly painful, i effectively go into labour. I always go into hopsital for Gas & air, morphine & tramadol. I recover with strong painkillers for up to 2 weeks after.
I had my 6th mc last month so i have lots of experience.

There may be some folk on here that will tell you different as every one is different.
Good luck with your decision x

[kat2504]

I've had the medical option - very painful indeed. And I've had the erpc.
The erpc will probably give you the best chance of recovery before your holiday, mine was at 10 weeks and physically it was all over within a week. Emotionally it was longer of course, but less traumatic than the medical management.

Sorry for your loss, wishing you a speedy recovery

[zebedeethezebra]

Thanks all, that's really helpful. It all sounds awful, but I think I will call the EPU again tomorrow if nothing has started overnight.

Does anyone know if the medical management works every time? What happens if it doesn't? Do they know if it has worked straight away?

[bigun1]

It doesnt always work, but has for me, like some one else said, the bleeding becomes redder and haeavier and the cramps begin within about an hour of the pessary. You kind of know when its working quite quickly.
As you have already begun to bleed, its likely to just speed things up for you.
x

[bigun1]

if it doesnt work, then i suspect they will ofer ERCP.

[CarnivalBizarre]

I am so sorry for your loss OP :(

I had a medically managed mmc in June this year and tbh if I knew then how much I would bleed I would have opted for the ERPC which was offered. I took the first tablet orally on the Thursday and went back the following day to have 4 tablets inserted vaginally, I thought that it would be easier to help things along naturally as the pregnancy wasn't viable - I started cramping within an hour and the products came away within the hour - in my case there was no embryo, just a gestational sac and yolk which measured 5+2

I thought that would be it - I bled for a week heavily then stopped for a full week , then the bleeding started again heavily for the next 4 weeks - now this might have been because I asked to be given the depo shot at the same time as I had decided that this pregnancy had to be the last - we already have 6 Dc and I have had 4 mc also - I am still waiting for my dickhead Dr to make a referral for sterilisation but because I haven't exhausted all methods of contraception he seems to be obstructing me GAH!!!

Sorry for the long post

[biscuitmad]

Hi,

Im so sorry for your loss and the horrible decision you have to make.

I went for my 12 week scan and was told my baby had no heartbeat. My baby had died at 8 weeks. My body was having cramps but it couldnt flush out the baby. I opted for a d&c because I already have a child. I didnt want my child to see lots of blood and see me stuck on the loo for an hour or two having a miscarriage.

I have to say the doctors and nurses were really good and I felt no pain. I just felt empty.

[zebedeethezebra]

Thanks for all your messages. Its really comforting to hear other experiences.

I've called to book in for a medically managed miscarriage which I will start tomorrow then have to go back on Thursday. I'm really not looking forward to it. If it doesn't work then I guess I'll have to have an ERPC but I'm worried about the complications from that, so I just hope the drugs work.

I think I would have found this all a lot easier to deal with if my body had just started bleeding properly at the end of last week.

[cleanandclothed]

Will be thinking of you. I don't regret my medical management and would make the same choice again if it happens again. Best of luck.

[escapeartist]

Glad you feel you made the right choice for you. MMC can be very hard and you sound like you are making informed choices and taking control (as much as you can in such a crap situation).
Best of luck tomorrow.

[zebedeethezebra]

Another quick question: I'm expecting the worse day to be Thursday. Can anyone tell me how I'm likely to be on Friday and Saturday? Will I be capable of doing anything?

[kat2504]

You'll probably be a bit wiped out and in need of some tlc and some resting on the sofa time. I still had some pains the next day, rested up with hot water bottle and cocodamol. Obviously the first few days afterwards are very very hard on you emotionally so you will need to be kind to yourself and not expect too much of yourself.
You won't be invalided on bed rest, but you will feel rather rubbish so don't plan to do anything much apart from recuperate at home with some good tv or films, a big bar of chocolate and so on. You may still be bleeding fairly heavily and possibly still passing clots the next day so you will not really want to be out and about.

I hope your medical management is both successful and over quickly. When you next go in to the hospital do discuss your pain relief options with them. I didn't do this and when I was actually in pain I was in no position to be assertive with them. It isn't hideous for everyone, some people on here have said it was ok for them with normal painkillers/gas and air.

Another tip is get some maternity pads ( I blagged a reasonable supply from the hospital) as for the first day and the day after, Always night time were not quite up to the job. After that normal towels were fine.