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Aaargh, just want periods to be finished and done with!

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Horsemad Sat 25-Aug-12 21:32:12

I am so sick of having periods sad I am 48 and have HAD ENOUGH.

Today, I have had to change a super plus tampon every hour, my insides feel like they're falling out and I'm passing clots the size of 50p pieces.
Not a good combination when you need to be out and about uniform shopping!

I stupidly thought 'hey, I'm liking this' after missing a period in June, started the next one in July, bled for 4 weeks (not as heavy as today, but still fairly heavy) a week after I stopped bleeding from that one, I've come on again. Grrrr!

I'm due a routine blood test next week for anaemia; what's the betting I'm back on iron tablets by the w/e? sad

MissBoPeep Sat 25-Aug-12 22:25:49

Have you thought about asking for the Mirena coil? It is prescribed for heavy periods and doubles up as contraception.

Try toget it sorted and don't wish your periods away- you will then be coping with hot flushes, sweats and a whole lot of other stuff unless you go onto HRT- or are very lucky!

Horsemad Sat 25-Aug-12 22:40:05

Hi MissBoPeep, yes, I've considered the Mirena, but am worried that it might affect my moods (always had terrible mood swings when on the pill and have read lots of negative reports from Mirena users re. this). Don't want to go through the hassle of having it fitted if I end up having to have it removed.

That said, if I have many more periods like this one, I could possibly be persuaded! That's the thing, they are never the same each month! After years of heavy periods, they had eased off a lot and were manageable, then skipped a month and then this one has more than made up for that sad

shineypenny Sat 25-Aug-12 23:08:13

I was where you are now 18 months ago. I had put up with it for three years. I used tranexamic acid for a while (prescription drug that you take on the heavy days only, and it stops the flow by clotting the blood further), but after a while it wasn't so effective. In the end, it was the mirena coil that worked for me.
Like you, I wasn't sure, as I had read the horror stories on the Internet, but I am so glad that my GP persuaded me. I have gone from using two pads and a super tampon as well as the drugs and having to change hourly to using no more than a panty liner.
I get niggly headaches sometimes, but it is so much better than the alternative. Please go and talk to your GP. The first thing you will need is a scan to check you are not suffering from fibroids. If the mirena doesn't work for you, there are other things that can be done.

Horsemad Sun 26-Aug-12 00:01:40

Thanks Shiney - it's the not knowing whether it'll suit me, but if I don't try it, I'll never know, will I?! I can always have it removed I suppose. But what if it falls out and I don't know???!! I really don't want a pregnancy scare sad

This is getting ridiculous really and I wouldn't put up with anything else impacting on my life, so I need to be grown up and get to the GP. Might pluck up courage to see GP whilst I'm on leave this week.

Maryz Sun 26-Aug-12 00:17:38

Can I join you? I don't want the Mirena, I don't want any sort of hormonal treatment, I've had a period every 28 days, lasting 8 days, like clockwork for 37 years. I'm almost 50 and I just want them to fucking well stop [grumpy].

In fact, if I could have my insides removed I would (with a tummy tuck at the same time please).

My periods have suddenly become unpredictable, which is even worse than when they were expected. And they are horrific. And sometimes it starts for a day, stops (and I get my hopes up) and then comes back with a vengeance.

And I'm anaemic - not fecking surprised, the amount of blood I pour down the loo every month [mutters more].

Sorry, not much help, but lots of sympathy.

Horsemad Sun 26-Aug-12 00:33:40

Crikey Mary, are you me? It's horrific, isn't it? sad I'm just off to bed now 'cause I'm shattered, but thanks for replying smile

Maryz Sun 26-Aug-12 00:45:08

Sadly I think there are a lot of us.

You need to find the "peris" - they had a great thread, but I'm not sure where they are gone. The last time I talked to them I was in denial, but I'm having to face it now sad.

MrsShrek3 Sun 26-Aug-12 00:52:56

Had all this hideous stuff at 36. Uterus lining was over three times as thick as it should've been, and thus period 3x heavier, puddles on floor blush and ridiculous measures even when on tranexamic acid and mefenamic acid. Was very anaemic.

You may well hate to hear it but a hysteroscopy, a big laser endometrial clear-up and mirena (all done in the one GA procedure) was my rescue. I have only good things to say about it, and have no periods grin New mirena soon smile

Maryz Sun 26-Aug-12 00:57:41

I have a friend who decided on a mirena - it all went horribly wrong and she ended up with a haemorrhage and an emergency hysterectomy.

Now while I would love a hysterectomy (I've been asking for one for 20 years), I don't want one as an emergency, as the recovery is worse.

But it's put me off the mirena - especially since at 49 and with dh having had a vasectomy, I'm not exactly likely to need contraception.

I sort of hope if I do nothing, it will all go away. But I've been hoping that for five years and it hasn't.

MrsShrek3 Sun 26-Aug-12 01:26:18

Hmm, see why you're anti mirena. Everyone's different though. Have you got other options like endometrial ablation or laser treatment?

Horsemad Sun 26-Aug-12 16:02:25

Does anyone know the answer to this question? If you have a Mirena for a few years - how do they know you will be ok to not use contraception when it's removed if you are 50+?

The current advice is to continue with contraception until you have had no periods for a year if you are over the age of 50, but if you don't have periods 'cause of the Mirena, how would you know when your last period was?

ByTheSea Sun 26-Aug-12 16:07:17

I can empathise! I'm 48 too and sick of it. After being like clockwork for decades, it is now coming every three weeks or so and the second full day is soooo heavy. I never needed super plus before! Wish it would just stop!

Horsemad Sun 26-Aug-12 16:18:02

I've done a little bit of reading today on endometrial ablation and I'm considering asking my GP if he'd refer me. When I asked if I could have tranexamic acid, (quite a few years ago) he said no! Not sure why sad

orangeandlemons Sun 26-Aug-12 16:20:32

I take tranexamic acid. It works a treat.

Badvoc Sun 26-Aug-12 16:25:06

I resisted e mirenacoil for years choosing to beleive all the nightmare stories.
My gynae finally persuaded me to get one in may rather then go ahead with a hysterectomy's been fine.
Bleeding much less, some spotting.
No long er anaemic (my iron level was 8 prior to getting it fitted)
Try it.
You can always have it taken out if it doesn't work for you.
Goo Luck x

marriedinwhite Sun 26-Aug-12 16:31:15

I was like this at 45/46ish. At first there were little glows but as the gaps got bigger there were flushes and flushes and flushes, esp at night when I had badly broken sleep. Then the mood swings. It came to a head nearly two yaers ago when I had had a 9 month gap. I started HRT and relief came within about 3/4 days. I had no problems at all and because I have a family history of osteoporosis my gynaecologist and breast consultant (polycystic breast disease) have both recommended that I stay on HRT into my dotage. The dose has been reduced and I now have a combination of patches and pills. I haven't had a period since Easter 2011 and feel so much better.

Am assured that the present generation of HRT is much safer than the last and there is something in the pipeline that will be available within five years that attaches itself only to the non genetically cancer prone cells and which will take future risk in relation to breast cancer away entirely. That's how I understood it anyway.

Transformed my life it did.

MissBoPeep Sun 26-Aug-12 21:34:57

To answer one question...
I haven't had a Mirena but I did have an ordinary copper coil- and it half fell out shock

I think you would know if it happened. I had bleeding for 3 weeks- which was only a short time after having had it fitted, and a period, so i wasn't sure what was going on. Went to have it checked and was told it was half out - eek!

The Mirena is bigger- some people have a problem having it fitted TBH and I think you'd know if it was making its exit!

I know that they like you to give the Mirena 3 months trial- then take it out iof not good.

Horsemad Sun 26-Aug-12 23:21:54

I've had a better day today, thank God! Took some ibuprofen and have had nothing like the bleeding I had yesterday - coincidence? Who cares! I'm not surprised that today was better, it couldn't have got worse after the amount I lost yesterday.

Have felt weak and dizzy most of the day and a bit shaky too so have eaten lots to compensate!!! grin

Definitely need to speak to the GP though.

crazynanna Sun 26-Aug-12 23:30:27

<waves to Mary>

I am one of the original Peris' from the Peri quiche.
I thought I had cracked it as I beat everyone in the 'Missing Period' game (where we competed who had the biggest gap between them) I went 5 months...and then the bastards were back. with.a.vengence.

But now///aged 48 11 months....they are regular as a clock just like in my 20s...but yes tranex thingy acid...couple of flushes...but looks like I am way off fuckfuckfuck

Not got to the heavy bleeding bit yet ('only' 46), although my hitherto clockwork periods aren't running quite like clockwork any more so it probably won't be long until it is my turn to want an end to it all.

However, I just wanted to post about the Mirena as I had one after DS2 was born. Yes, you would feel it fall out but you are supposed to go back 6 weeks after it is fitted to make sure it is still in place. Presumably if it is going to fall out it is most likely to do it at the beginning. You are also supposed to go back every year to make sure it is in the right place. You don't just put it in and ignore it for 5 years (or 10 as I think it has been changed to now but don't quote me on that).

I don't have one now, I have a copper one. I found that while I had it I put on a lot of weight which I couldn't shift until I had it taken out and changed to the copper. For periods though, it was fab. Very little bleeding from the beginning and after about 6 months no bleeding at all. If I could be sure all the weight I put on wasn't the fault of the Mirena I would have one again. I think in your circumstances I would give it a go. If it doesn't make much difference in say, 3 or 4 months, you could always have it taken out again.

Maryz Mon 27-Aug-12 00:11:10

There you are carzy <waves>

Where has your thread gone? Or has everyone given up in disgust?

I will ask the gp about tranexy thingy next time I go to see him. Unfortunately I can't afford to go to see a specialist, too many expenses with the kids atm and at 120 a go (plus more for blood tests and anything invasive) drugs are the only solution.

I'm fairly pissed off with it all.

Oh dear... Sending you all lots of sympathy but also, having read the thread, am going 'Eeek! What might happen to me?' I am 47, had erratic period for the past couple of years, not had one since May and started having hot flushes from mid-June onwards. But for the past week or so I have had the sort of niggly cramps and collywobbles that usually indicated an imminent period. Should I not throw out the spare Always just yet?

Squeegle Mon 27-Aug-12 10:54:15

I think the ibruprofen might not be a coincidence. I have just been to see a gynaecologist for the same thing (bloodbath some months eek!)

He has prescribed me tranexamic acid. First on the list of suggestions was mirena coil, but I wanted to try something less invasive first.

He suggested I try the tabs with non steroidal anti inflammatory drugs- I believe ibuprofen is one. This is what "NICE" says about them:

"reduce the body's production of prostaglandin ( a hormone like substance linked to heavy periods). These drugs are also painkillers"

So sounds like they may have some useful effect on heavy periods.

crazynanna Mon 27-Aug-12 11:07:12

Mary I think the thread combusted with the hormonal rages on there.

I think one of my last posts was when I sobbed in the arms of the security guard in Tescos as they had no mince in the fridge blush

I was scanned for fibroids..but clear (ish)..showed "fibroid changes" or something.

They are regular but heavy and those pills help..I want them gone I tell ya!

solid no you ain't finished with the nappies yet I fear

Bellaciao Mon 27-Aug-12 16:38:58

Re the Mirena and knowing when your periods would have stopped - I agree you wouldn't know. The same is true when using HRT - going from cyclical to continuous combined. If you start HRT less than 12 months before your last period you don't know when they're going to stop naturally. In this case the magic age is 54 when most women will be post menopausal.

So if you had a Mirena put in soon then when it came up for renewal eg after 5 years (not sure of the years either - thought it was 5 for contraception...but 4 for HRT - but could have changed this year - I wasn't aware) theoretically could still be fertile at 53 - but very unlikely. However if it suited you by this time you might be wanting oestrogen if not before so could have another Mirena for the progestogen part of HRT and you wouldn;t need to worry at all!

It's a real pain having heavy/unpredicatble periods - and I'm sure I've said this on another thread ( maybe the one that disappeared?) but when they finish you are in menopause for ever and a whole host of other lovely symptoms are there for you.....

Horsemad Mon 27-Aug-12 18:05:26

Thanks Bellaciao, I need to bite the bullet and speak to the GP don't I?

When I have a 'good' (manageable) month, I think 'oh, it's not THAT bad, I can cope'. Then when I have a bad month, I'm ranting like a mad thing and saying I'll go to the doctor!!

Re the meno and all the lovely symptoms awaiting - we're caught between the Devil and the deep blue sea really aren't we?!

crazynanna Mon 27-Aug-12 18:31:04

I found it Mary!!!!

I found our old thread!


MissBoPeep Mon 27-Aug-12 18:41:36

Flooding and heavy periods are not inevitable part of meno.

I was lucky and had neither- mine just gradually got lighter. I missed one, then had a run of normal ones for a year, and eventually missed about 4 consecutively before my final one.

Horsemad Mon 27-Aug-12 20:18:58

MissBoPeep that sounds a very agreeable way to into menopause grin - I could handle that!

Maryz Mon 27-Aug-12 20:21:28

That's what I wanted MissBoPeep, but sadly that doesn't seem to be happening.

crazy, I'm almost afraid to re-read that thread - it has some scary content grin. But I do think a new support thread is needed for us all to rant on

The trouble is that at 48 you could still have years of periods. I'm 54 and still they keep coming, though thankfully the bleeding is very light.
I used to have periods like those, huge clots, floods, they were horrendous. I now have a Mirena. My 3rd one. It saved me from a hysterectomy and I have nothing but good to say about it.

I thought the menopause had started 2.5 years ago when I missed a couple of months and started hot flushes, but no, here I am still having them. I've had gaps of up to 5 months and usually know a period is coming back because the hot flushes stop and Bloody PMS comes back.

I've had this Mirena for 7 years now and discussed it with my GP. I was worried that having it removed would herald the return of those heavy periods (that's what happened to a friend). I don't need it for contraception but she said that it would still be the treatment of choice.

Maryz Thu 30-Aug-12 18:22:01

<stuffs fingers in ears and sticks head in sand>

I'm going to be 50 soon, and my periods are going to just fucking well stop.


1944girl Thu 30-Aug-12 18:39:22

There is light at the end of the tunnel girls!.
I am 68 and have been period free for 15 years.I suffered from terrible dysmenorea(sp) all my reproductive life.Then in my late forties came the heavy periods and clotting along with the pain.I remember being at work during a very heavy one.The funny thing about it was I was a nurse working on a heamatology clinic and as I was taking blood specimens from patients at the same time it was flooding out of me.
When I was about 51 things got better, I still had regular periods but the flooding and pain ceased and the flow and duration of it slowly dwindled away over the next two years before stopping all together.Yes I got hot flushes and still get the odd one,but I was having family problems as well so my worst hot flushes were the ones with two legs and two arms on them.I have never took HRT, have personal reasons for not wanting it.
My heart goes out to you all but there is an end coming!

marriedinwhite Thu 30-Aug-12 22:00:55

Actually final observation: If I had children in my 20's and dealt with teenagers in my late 30s I might have coped without HRT. Coping with a difficult menopause and teenagers was too much in one go and I put the teenager (one at that time) first.

LavenderOil Thu 30-Aug-12 22:34:56

when you say heavy. how heavy? I get 28 day cycle with heavy as in tranexamic acid but super plus tampon and towel flooded within about 40 mins. that can last for 24 hours like that and i feel so washed out i generally have to go to bed for that day. The following 6 odd days i can manage with the tranex and generally cope with every day life.

Then every 4 or 5 months i get one on 14 day after last period. comes from nowhere, complete bloodbath. I hate it so much, i cannot plan anything, go anywhere. it literally soaks my clothes. Am anaemic and desperate for it to end.

Been offered the coil, although i have some fibroids which they are leaving at the moment. I think a hysterec may be in order. am 47. what do you think?

Horsemad Thu 30-Aug-12 22:48:46

Lavender - sounds hideous sad How do you feel about having the coil - is it the Mirena they have offered you?

LavenderOil Thu 30-Aug-12 22:54:29

yes the mirena. Well friends of mine have had it and most of them have had it removed quite quickly.
Main complaints of irritability, bloating and more bleeding!
I haven't met one real life person who recommends it.
We are nurses.

Horsemad Thu 30-Aug-12 22:59:12

Hmm, I keep reading about Mirena and it's side effects but only know one person with it in real life and she seems happy with it, but I've not had an in depth conversation with her about it, so will pick her brain when I see her next. I just don't want the hassle of having it fitted only to have it removed soon after!! All those symptoms you mentioned I get already WITHOUT a Mirena, so don't want to make things worse!

LavenderOil Thu 30-Aug-12 23:06:15

exactly, that is what is putting me off.

And I so agree with you that during the heavy period you think you must see the gp, but as soon as it is out of the way you just want to get on and forget about it. Been doing this for years.
I really dont think the mirena is for me.
Would rather the hysterectomy, but it is the downtime which is putting me off. But those friends of mine who have had hysterctomies due to this condition have said they wish they had it done years beofre and its a life changer.
If i had a crystal ball and knew it was for one more year, i could cope. The thought that it may rumble on for a few years is simply awful!

Horsemad Thu 30-Aug-12 23:16:29

Snap Lavender everyone I know who has had hysterectomy says the same!! They can't all be wrong, can they??!

chixinthestix Thu 30-Aug-12 23:22:31

I tried the mirena for heavy periods, awful PMT and dire monthly headaches, but I'm sorry to say it was a total disaster - the first one fell out after two weeks, had another fitted and had to have that removed after a few more weeks because it too was falling out. It was agony, I bled the whole time and utterly horrid.

I then saw a different Dr who prescribed me cerazette - mini pill which has been marvellous, no more periods, no other symptoms and apparently I can happily take it for another 10 years or more - I'm only 41 so could have years more of this yet. I know it doesn't suit everyone but has worked for me.

Horsemad Thu 30-Aug-12 23:27:02

Off to google 'Cerazette'

Horsemad Thu 30-Aug-12 23:31:46

Nope, don't really fancy that either! Am becoming more and more averse to the idea of hormones in my body.

chixinthestix Thu 30-Aug-12 23:37:24

I've read some quite negative things on here about it Horsemad so I guess its like the mirena, good for some not for others.
The other thing which helped was that it was prescribed by a gynae consultant through the family planning clinic. I'd seen various GPs over the last few years who were not able to improve the situation and then finally I saw this lovely, sympathetic Doctor and told her I felt like I needed to switch my hormones off for a while. Her reply was 'we can do that, no-one should have to live with those sort of symptoms'. I've recommended all my friends to go there now!

Horsemad Thu 30-Aug-12 23:46:32

I use the FP clinic for contraception (use a diaphragm), so might see if I can speak to a doctor there; the nurses are lovely but periodically (ha ha pun INTENDED!!) ask me if I've considered the Mirena, which I am certain I do not want!

cocolepew Fri 31-Aug-12 00:01:30

Transexamic acid can now be bought, I saw it in boots. I posting this from my hospital bed, I had a hysterectomy yesterday so no more periods for me grin

Horsemad Fri 31-Aug-12 00:11:28

Off to break down the door to local Boots store!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well Done cocole glad your periods are done now! Lucky girl grin

cocolepew Fri 31-Aug-12 05:39:42

My DD is 14 and gets TA and it seems to help her, she takes 3 a day for the first 3 dats if her period. It maybe adds a day onto her cycle but it definitely helped her,her flow has lessened a lot.

It was by the painkillers for periods in Boots, I think it is readily available in chemists.

Good luck!

MissBoPeep Fri 31-Aug-12 08:24:38

Lavender - I haven't had a Mirena or heavy periods, but have friends who have. The only ones I know with a Mirena are v happy with it!

If you are suffering so much, would you not think about trying it- you can have it taken out after 3 months if no good.

As you will know a hysterectomy is a big op- and it can leave you with other problems. it's pretty old hat now for heavy bleeding- espeically as you might be free of periods in a few years.

The other option is endometrial ablation- has that been suggested?

If i were you I'd try the Mirena- what's to lose, except an hour or so of discomfort maybe on fitting, and removal if it's not for you? can't be worse than what you put up with now.

cocolepew Fri 31-Aug-12 08:43:58

I had the ablation 4 years ago for heavy bleeding, worked well at the time.

My sister and two good friends have Mirena and all very happy with it.
Surely a trial of that is better than major surgery and all the risks that go with that?

Horsemad Fri 31-Aug-12 21:31:25

I had a blood test today and I asked the nurse what my levels were last time (in May) as the doctor never puts the levels in the letter - he just says they're dropping and re-test in 3 to 4 months time. She said it was 4 which she said is 'quite low' .

After last week's bleed, I'm surprised I have any blood left, so am fully expecting it to have dropped further - is that even possible? sad

LavenderOil Sun 02-Sep-12 09:03:18

Apparently I cannot have the ablation as I have fibroids.

One of my friends had the mirena and after a week or agony she went back to the gp, was told it would be there for 3 months and she had to let it settle. It didn't and she had cramps, bleeding, almost went insane with the pmt stuff. They took it out after a month. Others had the bleeding more or less all the time.

I cannot begin to think of trying something which could worsen the situation. Mini pill was offered, but I think there was weight gain as side effect. I am gaining anyway and don't need any more help there!

So I either battle on with the tranexamic acid (thanks for the heads up that you can buy over the counter now) or head to hysterectomy.

CocoLePew, lucky you, How was the op. How did they do it? If you don't mind revealing your age it would be useful. How long are you off work, or advised not to do much? Sorry for all the questions. I am very jealous!

cocolepew Sun 02-Sep-12 10:10:38

Im 43, I needed it for adenmyosis. It was keyhole vaginal assisted. Its hideously sore at the moment, have terrible wind pains too. Not allowed to lift more than half a full kettle for 2 weeks, no standing for a significant time, everything should be settling down after 6 weeks then reindroduce acitivies slowly.

I'll be off weeks for minimum of 8 weeks , there is a lot of standing and lifting in my job.

LavenderOil Sun 02-Sep-12 21:51:51

oh thanks for the info. Hope you feel better very soon. Are you in hosp for long? Sorry more questions!

CuttedUpPear Sun 02-Sep-12 22:07:46

Hello all.

I have the Mirena. It was the best thing I have ever done. I've had one since 2002, and that was the date of my last period too.

It has been fucking bliss. 10 years without a period, without feeling like I've run into a brick wall of pain every month, without having to fork out for sanitary towels. It took a few months to settle in with a few twinges and stuff but I've not heard from it since (have had it changed at 7 years though).

The best thing of all though - I am more level emotionally than I've ever been in my life. I'm used to this state of mind now but for the first few years it was a revelation. I feel more confident and capable than I used to. I am not a big cry baby any more.

I'm sorry for those who it doesn't work out for but I just wanted to put my hand up here and say I am a real person grin

cocolepew Sun 02-Sep-12 23:08:11

No problem about questions grin. I had it done on wednesday at 5ish and got home on friday at 3. I could have stayed in but preferred my own bed. Because the drain etc was out and I was able to pee they were happy enough for me to go.

hattifattner Sun 02-Sep-12 23:15:16

LavenderOil, i had an ablation with fibroids.

OP, I did not get on with mirena. 8 months of periods, with a total of 4 non consecutive weeks off in that time. And when I wasnt bleeding, I had bacterial vaginosis and 2x group B strep infections. which gave me (TMI warning) copious bright yellow discharge. I also gained 18lbs.

lovely female gynae took it out and did an ablation. 1 day of cramps, 1 month of light discharge, no periods since. 18lbs weight lost rapidly.

LavenderOil Mon 03-Sep-12 14:31:17

coco - that sounds fab. only 2 nights in hosp. I could cope with that.

hatti - I am not sure why my gp said I couldn't have it then, if you have. Oh the dilemma!
As for your nightmare with the mirena hatti, that is exactly what scares me. I just know i would be in your gang with all those probs.

Cutted - glad it worked for you. I would have had it if I could be sure I wouldn't suffer the side effects, but I cannot take the risk of suffering while they force you to go through the settling down period.

CuttedUpPear Mon 03-Sep-12 17:48:48

Well.... I had to go and get my smear test done today (reward=one choc eclair from reduced section).
I was chatting to the nurse about Mirena coils and she said that in all her years fitting them she'd only ever had one patient feel that it wasn't working for her (after two weeks). She said that the are very well received by everyone else and has never removed any because they were causing problems.

On the minus side, it's time for me to get mine changed. shock sad
I mentioned that I'd had a bit of spotting about two months ago and we worked out that the present coil I have in was changed 6 years ago and she thinks it might not be working.

She has sent me for a pregnancy test

I am 46 with 2 grown children


hattifattner Mon 03-Sep-12 18:32:42

lavender, ask for a gynae referral? My lady Gynae said fibroids were to be expected when ladies get to "a certain age". I think it may depend on the type of fibroid, its location and size as to whether or not it will interfere with the ablation procedure. If you havent had an internal scan, you wouldnt know where the fibroids were. She also said (before my scan) that they can be tied off/ removed sometimes while they're doing the ablation.

Having been through all the treatments, it seems that the standard route is the transexamic acid (and another one...cant remember the name) and if they dont work, mirena or other hormone contraceptive, then ablation, then hysterectomy.

Cutted....scary! Have you peed on a stick yet?

LavenderOil Mon 03-Sep-12 20:03:22

cutlery OMG !!!!!

hatti - i have had theinternal scan as i was referred on from my gp to ascertain the cause of the bleeding. largest fibroid 2 years ago was 4cm. been on tranexamic acid for 10 blinking years! Sometimes it works and i have what one would call an ordinary period. sometimes its a bloddbath!! sorry tmi.

So when i went back to my gp they suggested the coil or mini pill, ablation they said was not a procedure for me. I suggested hysterectomy, they said its major op blah blah and sent me away to consider the coil
So that was afew months back and i haven't bothered to return. If I do return, it will be because i will be demanding a hysterectomy andbe done with the whole thing.

MissBoPeep Mon 03-Sep-12 21:06:12


I think you need a re-think and some expert advice.. GPs with all due respect are not experts.

A 4cm fibroid is tiny. My nrighbour had one the size of a grapefruit- had it removed and still had a lot of bleeding up to meno. A friend has one the size of her fist, so her gynae says. I have one that is small- not sure how big but it doesn't gve me any problems.

You are putting up a lot of barriers on treatment that might work, on the experience of 2 friends- there are a lot more women who have positive experiences.

Same for the mini -ill- you don't know it would cause weight gain do you- you are assuming!

If you aren't prepared to try anything, then you have no options.

I think that if you really want help you should ask to see a gynae- or maybe even 2!- to get an opinion on what really can be done.

cocolepew Mon 03-Sep-12 21:23:45

There is a hysterectomy thread in health, some of the posters on it have had massive fiboids removed, 4 cms is tiny. It may have been only 2 days in hospital but I'm at home on bedrest for at least 2 weeks and a recovery time of up to 15 weeks.

hattifattner Mon 03-Sep-12 22:06:07

Id agree with missbopeep. See a gynae and discuss all the options. Id even urge you to try the mirena. I also have many friends for whom it has been fantastic, they are delighted with it. None of my mirena mates have had any issues, just me. Even my gynae says its like marmite - you either love it, or you hate it. Thing is, you have to try it first.

I really wanted it to work, and I put up with 8 months of bleeding because the alternative bloodbath was too horrendous. The weight gain was horrible, but again, the alternative was worse. This meant that when I saw the gynae again, I could hand on heart tell her I had really given it a really fair shake, and I was able to tell her the negative symptoms I had experienced so she had a really good idea of why I needed an alternative.

MissBoPeep Mon 03-Sep-12 22:27:25

I don't know if this could be offered but removal of the fibroid and an ablation under the same op is surely not out of the question?

A hysterectomy usually brings on an earlier menopause, and there is the additional risk of prolapse and injury to the bladder and bowels ( rarely.) It is now only offered as a last resort after everything else has been tried.

CuttedUpPear Mon 03-Sep-12 22:27:46

No I haven't peed on a stick saving my pennies for nappies - I have got a pot to pee in next week.

When we will discover that I am NOT effing up the duff!

LavenderOil Tue 04-Sep-12 08:30:07

Thank you people. It was a gyanae who did the internal scan and wrote the report back to the gp . That is where I am confused!

May make an appointment again to see whats happening.

LavenderOil Tue 04-Sep-12 08:30:46

cuttedUp- Would it be the end of the world? I think it would be quite lovely!!

CuttedUpPear Tue 04-Sep-12 09:19:11

LavenderOil I think it's bit forward of you to say it would be quite lovely for me to have another child at 47 grin

A lovely thought yes. But I'm a self employed single mother with back problems and some kind of ligament damage to my ankle so I am limping all the time and considering going on the sick as I can't work properly.
Also I have no support network were I live and an elderly and frail DF to drive to visit all the time.

No it wouldn't be a good thing to happen now. Even though I do adore babies.

Horsemad Wed 05-Sep-12 21:30:02

Jeez Cutted, I think I'd pass out if that happened to me!

My friend at work has a Mirena and she went back as she was having problems and the gynae who checked it said it had 'slipped' shock and it had to be re-fitted!

Imagine if she'd got pregnant - she's just turned 50!!

Horsemad Fri 07-Sep-12 15:39:37

Had blood test results which said although on the low side, they are stable so have another test in 3 months.

digerd Sat 08-Sep-12 17:34:06

One young GP told me that his mother sailed through it doing yoga!!! Every woman is different, as in life some are luckier than others. I am now 68 and still on HRT, but when a traumatic event happens, I get one again. It's called a " breakthrough on HRT". When it first happened at age 54, I was sent to Emergencey at hospital, but was told it was normal for some women, but then, just incase, I had a scrape and biopsies, and bled with pain for 6 weeks afterwards. needless to say when it happened again several times, including this year, I didn't bother going to GP as knew what he was obliged to do, and stuck it out by coming off HRT until bleeding stopped. But during this time I always had bouts of depression and crying etc. And couldn't wait to go back on it. My sister though, stayed on the mini contraceptive pill until the age of 55 when she looked like 35, and had no symptoms. When she came off the pill, she still had no problems at all, but she did begin to show ageing !!!! But at 65, she looks very good. But then she was born lucky. I went on the HRT at 49 and immediately got rid of the night sweats and nightmares and terrible aching bones in bed, and heavy legs and muzzy head during the day. But my periods had become very light . Sorry for those experiencing such awful effects, HRT is usually wonderful for most people

digerd Sat 08-Sep-12 17:47:50

Not impossible to get pregnant at 47, but it is rare, and at 50, only with IVF with a doner egg.. .I know of 2 women who gave birth at 47, and one at 46, naturally. The 46 year-old was a famous english actress and had never got pregnant, so when she missed her periods for 6 months and put on a bit of weight, she went to GP thinking it was the menapause, and was told she was 6 months pregnant. They showed her at 49 with her 3 year-old daughter and she was delighted with her surprise.

Bellaciao Sun 09-Sep-12 12:52:35

digerd quite worrying to have a bleed at 68 but interested to hear you are still on HRT! What HRT do you use and have you had the same for years? I presume you are on continuous combined HRT if you don't normally have bleeding? I am 59 and have been on it for 5 1/2 years and don't intend to stop - but I have chosen to go the cyclical route - which means I have a bleed (that I expect) every 2 months - but wondering whether long term it would be better to be on continuous prog - although I really don't like the idea as I think it interferes with some of the beneficial effects of oestrogen. Not looking forward to regular bleeding when in my 60's though - but it's all a choice.
Cherie Blair became pregnant with No. 4 child at age 46 I believe.

hoarder Sun 09-Sep-12 20:34:30

Hello folks,
i have had no period since march, but now some spotting and the very worst anxiety (for no tangible reason apart from usual stuff) of my life. Horrible feelings of agitation/restlessness/dread. What has anyone else done about this and how long did it last?

MissBoPeep Sun 09-Sep-12 21:11:04


Have you thought about seeing someone about those bleeds? It's not normal- really.

I am on long-cycle HRT and apart from the cyclic bleeds- every 3 months- my gynae always wants me to tell him if there is any erratic bleeding other than the ones I expect.

I've had a biopsy and a hysterescopy to investigate 2 bleeds-but I am much younger than you are.

PLEASE go to your dr for advice. A bleed at 54 might have been acceptable and nothing to worry about- but bleeding now at 68 is not right- even on HRT. Cancer of the uterus is the obvious thing to consider- you really should get yourself checked out.

And woman of 50 can get pregnant by normal means! My gynae reports a woman of 56 having a baby that way!

MissBoPeep Sun 09-Sep-12 21:21:34

Digerd- the more I think on this the more worried I am for you!

Does your HRT give you a " period" normally- ie every month?

The breakthough bleeding you refer to sometimes happens when women first take it, or are younger and having normal periods anyway, or the dosage of the HRT is not right.

If you are taking oestrogen and prog, continuosly then you should not bleed. Stopping your HRT for a while will take oestrogen out of your system, and stop the bleeding- BUT you might have overgrowth of the womb lining- hyperplasia-caused by the oestrogen.

Please see your dr- and come back and tell us all is well?

CuttedUpPear Mon 10-Sep-12 12:04:46

Had a PG test today at docs.

I am NOT PG. Hooooray. (Too old to bend over so wasn't looking forward to it)

New coil to be fitted next month, yuk, I usually scream then faint.

cocolepew Mon 10-Sep-12 12:19:11

Good news pear smile

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