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2013 Durham/Teesside/Tyne and Wear greet, meet and eat thread

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ArrowofApollo Thu 04-Apr-13 07:44:58

Thought I would start a new thread as the old one is getting full.

Next meet up is on Wednesday 10th April, 10ish at the Durham Botanical Gardens. We will either be in the entrance or staking a couple of the picnic tables by the pond.
I will be giving Vikinglady a lift.

Hello smile

LillethTheCat Thu 04-Apr-13 08:34:31

Marking place in new thread.

Following on from last one I will bring all 3 DCs then, assuming they want to come. Will park at P&R and walk there. Hopefully will find you easy enough.

VikingLady Thu 04-Apr-13 11:10:09

Thanks, Apollo. Nice name btw!

CremeEggThief Thu 04-Apr-13 11:14:49

Oh have a lovely time, all of you. We will be on holiday, so hopefully next time smile.

ishchel Thu 04-Apr-13 12:42:06

Will be there with my 2. :-)

DuPainDuVinDuFromage Thu 04-Apr-13 13:41:06

I will try to be there for my first ever meet-up! But we have workmen coming at 8.30am so might not manage it...will see how organised I can be!

ArrowofApollo Thu 04-Apr-13 15:15:26

don't worry if you can't get there for 10. I for one will be bringing a picnic with me!smile

It's been snowing today!

ArrowofApollo Thu 04-Apr-13 16:07:01

we had a big hailstorm while heading out from the park!

Enjoy yourselves envy

I'm being the boss next week so won't be able to take the day off. Hope it stays nice for you though.

How's the course going Indith? Have you started doing proper stuff yet? Is the uniform as bad as you thought it was going to be? grin

ArrowofApollo Thu 04-Apr-13 16:35:30

Yes we want to see pictures of Indith!

Indith Fri 05-Apr-13 16:43:34


I want to come and play! I want to see ishchel because it has been too long and I want to meet Lilleth and dupain!

Course is good, I have a LOT of work to do this weekend.

Oh and this weekend we are going car shopping. In a rented car that we are picking up tomorrow. Because I picked our car up from the garage this afternoon where dh had left it because it was misbehaving and I was told to take it, bring it back on Monday but not use it in between. He kindly let me take it over to Ushaw Moor to pick the dcs up though!

Indith Fri 05-Apr-13 16:44:31

Oh and I'm not posting photos. We have had a LOT of talks about not posting pictures/talking about placements and that sort of thing. I'm a professional and have to behave as such. Or something. grin.

Oh no! Hope it's not too exoensive. Pleased this means you will be getting another car though smile

Guess your guidelines on social media as strict as ours! I'm not allowed to say who I work for, comment on anything that may be connected with work or that may indicate my political allegiance. Which is so damn hard when George Osborne is such a twat. But I maintain that my hated of him is based on the fact he is a complete fuckwit rather than because of his politics just in case hr are reading

Hope the car shopping goes well and the car mending not too expensive.

Indith Fri 05-Apr-13 17:27:19

Oh I don't think the car is getting mended. This means we will in fact be buying 2 cars. One now and one by the time I start placement in June. Happy days hmm.

Viking/Kara I have back a load of clothes that another friend borrowed. Kara what size is C in at the moment? I have a small non pink stash if you would like it Viking in 12-18. There are 2 summer dresses (one will probably fit for 2 summers, dd wore it 2 years running and she is not small!), a lightweight brown coat, some shorts and leggings and the most AMAZING winter boots which I'd have thought should fit her next winter. They came from Latvia and are the most amazing things in the entire world. As good as the dungarees of hippy joy. I know I can't come on Wednesday but if I have stuff for both of you is it worth you dropping by on Wednesday while you are in Durham? I'll be studying at home in the afternoon.

oh dear! Didn't realise it was that bad.
Lol at dungarees of hippy joy grin

ArrowofApollo Fri 05-Apr-13 22:35:59

Indith if Viking is not in a hurry then would love to drop in and see you, clothes sound fab! DD is in 18-24mo, and I have just given Viking some 12-18mo so sounds like yours would be ideal for her DD.

Indith Sat 06-Apr-13 11:03:19

In 18-24 I have 2 pairs leggings which have seen better days but are fab for going to the CM/messy play, 2 tops and 2 dresses. There are a couple of purple cardigans and things in a pile of 12-18 which you can both root through, not sure if the cardigans pass the Viking pink test grin but also I'm pretty sure they are quite big and that dd wore them at the same time as 18-24 stuff so you might want them Kara. Just let me know if you want to drop by, I shall be hard at work! I was due to pick the dcs up around 3 havign studied hard for a couple of hours but not sure what I'll be doing now with the car situation.

Anyway, dcs and dh have gone out in rental car to do the shopping so I need to be productive while they are gone so we can all go car shopping this afternoon. Joy.

VikingLady Sat 06-Apr-13 11:12:30

Indith and Apollo Thank you - she is mainly in 12-18m, and I am not in any rush at all. Work has utterly dried up this week sad

juneybean Sat 06-Apr-13 14:35:43

I've never been to the botanical gardens, what's there?

ArrowofApollo Sat 06-Apr-13 14:49:57

Yes, in that case we will do.
Shall we say around 1.30? That way we will be out of your way well before pick up time.
Can you FB message your postcode, I know how to get to yours from my house but not from Durham, so just need it for the GPS. How long will it take to drive from Durham?

Juney https://www.dur.ac.uk/botanic.garden/ They have cake and nice coffee!

Unfortunately it does look like it will rain! We could always hide in the wendy houses! We could go to Slug and Fiddle instead but was hoping for a cheaper option! Plus they don't have decaf coffee grrrrr.

juneybean Sat 06-Apr-13 14:54:20

LOL @ Slug & Fiddle! Slug & Lettuce! grin

Ooo well I'm off on the 10th so might be able to pop along!

ArrowofApollo Sat 06-Apr-13 21:00:59

FFS that is the second time I called it that hmmgrin

Great Juney!

It better not rain, I want my dairy challenge to be a Botanics mint hot chocolate! Still if it's wet a least I'll only have baby with me and won 't hav to chase T round the pub!

ArrowofApollo Sat 06-Apr-13 21:40:15

Yes I will have both of mine so pub not ideal!

Has been ver lovely today. Got loads of gardening done. Garden no longer looks like a weed infested wilderness.

ArrowofApollo Sun 07-Apr-13 08:01:01

Teesside Sling Meet

NCT are having a slingmeet at Guisborough Forest Walkway tomorrow, if anyone is interested?

Fancy coming to do my garden now yours is done? No? Drat. grin

ArrowofApollo Sun 07-Apr-13 20:58:57

Strangely no, I am shattered! And still need to do more!

DuPainDuVinDuFromage Tue 09-Apr-13 14:35:13

Hi ladies, sorry it looks like I won't be able to come now as I'll need to be around all day for the workmen sad Next time though! Enjoy it - hope it doesn't rain (or snow!)

ArrowofApollo Tue 09-Apr-13 16:44:14

SOrry to hear that Dupain!

I think tbh we should change the venue to the Slug and Lettuce as it still forecasting rain tomorrow. I am not hugely bothered but am thinking of Leggy with her tiny ds. But it definitely isn't picnic weather!!

juneybean Tue 09-Apr-13 20:13:48

I'm happy wherever smile

ishchel Wed 10-Apr-13 14:50:44

picnic weather now! at least if I am in the lee of the house.

links about breastfeeding in the UAE

Al Wasl Hospital has UNICEF Baby Friendly Status so they ought to have a good lactation service - tell her to go to a meeting when still pg if at all possible

lastly she can join this yahoo group and Facebook group which I know is quite valuable for meeting other mums and is maintained by some very knowledgeable people including a breastfeeding counsellor from the Assn. of Breastfeeding Mothers.

"Heh – thought the website URL would appear. It’s http://groups.yahoo.com/group/breastfeedingqa/ . We’re also on Facebook (Breastfeeding Q&A UAE), but the Yahoo Group is where most of the discussion takes place."

Indith Wed 10-Apr-13 15:25:25

So if we've just put a deposit down on a Meriva to pick up Friday, what else shall we buy in our car shopping spree? We were looking for one family car and one little car but we appear to have bought a medium car instead hmm.

Budget £10k. Absolutely no more than that. Ideal £6k.

For £10k we could get a new Zafira. But they won't be out of the factory until end of June and we need 2 cars by the start of June. Plus then we would own a Meriva and a Zafira and therefore be the most boring people in the entire world.

Is the Meriva big enough to be our big, family, fill full of crap and drive to the south of France car? If it is then we could go for a properly little car, maybe one of those Dacias that are £6k new? But if it is a touch small then we need a bigger car, wonder if pushing the budget up to the £10k would put us in reach of a decent focus estate or a c max?

Fed up of looking at cars and the only things in our budget being stuff that is almost as old as our deceased car with almost as many miles on the clock. I'm not spending £6k on something that isn't going to last.

Am clueless on cars. Never bought one as I've always been given family cast offs. The only vaguely helpful thing I can say is that the Peugeot 807 is horrible to drive so stay away from that.

Is June when you start placements? Excitingsmile

T has just become the baby that I've fed for the longest time. M was 20 months, H 21 but T has hit 22. Can't believe that is a grand total of 63 months. That's over 5 yearsshock all but 18 months of which I've been at work. I think I shall have some cake to celebrate grin

ishchel Wed 10-Apr-13 15:40:57

Indith, I am hoping to renew my car later this year. If you go for a bigger car and want a cheap and reliable second (I've had no issues with it) later on, then I will happily let you know about it if we let go of it later this year. (Would be October time).

I have no idea about Merivas or Zafiras but I have heard that the C Max is big enough and reliable too.

ishchel Wed 10-Apr-13 15:44:21

x posted - yes cake. Could do with some ATM too. I could say it is because M turns 8 next Friday with makes for 8yrs of continuous lactation. hmm shock

Indith Wed 10-Apr-13 16:04:20

Hats off to your both, that is a lot of lactiation!

Thanks my dear but I need another car by June for placements. What do you have though? May be a model we've not thought about.

Spiggy don't worry, we are not in the tank market grin.

Yes sorry I am no goo on cars either but don't get a fiat Brava (I think that's what it was)

ArrowofApollo Wed 10-Apr-13 17:02:42

Hyundai do cheap and reliable cars with 5y warranties. Have had our i30 for nearly 4 years now, just had the washer bottle replaced for free as it had sprung a leak.

Wow 8 years solid. I am but an amateur grin. That definitely deserves cake! I can claim 7 years since I was not pregnant and/or breastfeeding as of the end of the month though. <Orders more celebratory cake>

ishchel Wed 10-Apr-13 17:27:09

I have a Ford Fusion which is a little bigger and uglier than the new Fiesta. It is just as reliable as the fiesta but cheaper as I guess it isn't as popular. 2nd hand they can be found quite cheap. I thought you'd need something for uni but thought I'd mention it anyway. With the SPD I liked it cos they are a little higher than a lot of cars in a similar range and it made fastening seatbelts around a toddler a tad easier.

ishchel Wed 10-Apr-13 17:28:00

Oh 8yrs breastfeeding with 18months tandem. <fishing for more compliments.> wink

ArrowofApollo Wed 10-Apr-13 17:32:59

Amazing, ischel smile

Indith Wed 10-Apr-13 18:03:18

<<bows down in worship>> I'm only on around 48 months, curse my eldest early weaning child grin.

ArrowofApollo Wed 10-Apr-13 18:16:02

So far the total for me is 53mo shock
No tandem feeding though, DS stopped about 3mo before I fell pg with DD.

Indith Wed 10-Apr-13 20:07:07

Well done Kara <<hands out cake>>

I hope I get to a nice point with ds2 of his feeding when I'm here but not bothered when I'm not. Late shifts could be interesting though, June is not very far away and he gets rather grumpy if not presented with a breast approx 30 seconds after getting out of the bath! Nights are just constant........

On that note I am getting paranoid about periods. Still not come back. I've taken to carrying a pad and a spare pair of knickers in my bag. They came back at 4 months with ds1 so exclusively feeding and around 9 months with dd so still feeding a fair bit during the day and around 10 times a night. 13 months and counting.

I can't be arsed to study tonight, got a whole day of study at home tomorrow. Kids will be at the CM until 3pm. I hope it is nice tomorrow so we can go play at teh park after they come home. Dh is working this evening on a release.

Periods came back at 9 months with all of mine but I think it was the return to work at 6 months that triggered it. I always knew when my cycle was starting up again as I suddenly decided that sex was better than sleep novelty wore off again quite soon

Has dh thought any more about the snip?

VikingLady Thu 11-Apr-13 07:31:12

Indith mine only came back last week.

Everyone who met up yesterday - I've been up all night with d&v, as has DH. I hope I haven't infected any of you, but just a warning. Mine is worse than DH's which makes me wonder if it was the sausage.

Sorry. Glad I didn't cuddle the baby!

Indith Thu 11-Apr-13 07:41:09

Oh you poor thing Viking, I hope you feel better soon.

I'm sure something is happening cycle wise, feels like it anyway. I'm sure I'm going to feel a splodge half way through a lecture and end up with a teenage moment.

Kids have been dispatched. Breakfast and shower in order for me then hit the books. If you see me on here then yell at me!

Oh no Viking, hope you're better soon

ArrowofApollo Thu 11-Apr-13 15:22:51

Viking, sorry to hear you have been poorly!
We're all okay, and if it is a D&V bug I guess we will know if we have it fairly soon? I hope so as we went swimming this morning.

VikingLady Thu 11-Apr-13 18:40:26

They're usually pretty quick, aren't they? I am currently in a brief vertical phase - spent most of this afternoon napping on the floor with no top on so V could help herself.....

VikingLady Thu 11-Apr-13 18:40:53

Indith thank you for the baby clothes - the boots are fab!

Hope you and j are feeling better Viking. Looks like it is something going round work- a few people looking dodgy today.

ArrowofApollo Fri 12-Apr-13 07:52:22

Funniliy enough there was a discussion on the MID FB group about D&V going around Durham!


Ds2 is a contrary little thing. can't think where he gets that from every day without fail he wakes up at 6.30 ish demanding boob. Today as I am leaving for my first overnight stay for 2 years, he sleeps in hmm so I have to leave without one last feed. He won't be bothered but I am! I got that job I went for, it's my first day and I feel like I'm starting off on the back foot. <pathetic>

(Viking, I don't think it's been announced officially yet so ask J not to say owt, although I suspect a few people have guessed already)

Still at least the little blighter will be pleased to see my boobs me when I get back. grin

Indith Tue 16-Apr-13 17:42:48

hope you've had a good day, enjoy your night even the bed size isn't up to much!

Off to the pub in a couple of mins with my little pal from Glasgow grin . I could get used to this...

Indith Tue 16-Apr-13 20:00:48


Yay spiggy!

ArrowofApollo Tue 16-Apr-13 21:10:51

Spiggy that is great news, congratulations :D

StealthOfficialCrispTester Tue 16-Apr-13 21:15:04

Well done! Is it at the same company?

Might have got carried away. There's not much point in saving alcohol filled bm is there?

it's the same organisation, just a 3 month temporary promotion. I get to come back to London next week and go out againgrin luckily they couldn't pick between me and my friend who I thought would get the job so offered us a job share. Which is good cos he actually knows what the hell we're meant to be doing. grin

VikingLady Wed 17-Apr-13 08:21:51

Congratulations! J has been told not to gossip about it.

VikingLady Mon 22-Apr-13 07:57:03

Ischel Thanks for those links - I sent them on. She's in labour now but I don't know which hospital!

juneybean Mon 22-Apr-13 11:28:51

Ooo! Is this SIL?

VikingLady Tue 23-Apr-13 16:16:42

I have a nephew! He's a month early so is in icu, but sil reckons he's fine. Woo!

Off to buy fizz grin

juneybean Tue 23-Apr-13 16:34:55

Congratulations!! Hopefully he will be out of nicu quickly!! Xx

Congratulations, fizz most definitely required! Pass best wishes onto c as well (if he remembers me grin )

Indith Tue 23-Apr-13 19:22:51

Congrats aunty Viking smile

ArrowofApollo Wed 24-Apr-13 13:03:38

Wonderful news smile

Lovely news! Congrats to all.

Indith Thu 25-Apr-13 16:20:10

One of my lecturers keeps mentioning Mumsnet. She is rather mumsnetter ish. She told us to read Ina May Gaskin the first time we met her. She is very lovely if a teeeny bit scary. <<Looks round nervously>> <<hides>>

StealthOfficialCrispTester Thu 25-Apr-13 16:21:54

Congratulations Viking, hope he is getting stronger
lol Indith, why not take in a pack of pom bears so she knows you're one smile

Indith Thu 25-Apr-13 16:24:10

Oh god I can't out myself to my lecturer!

StealthOfficialCrispTester Thu 25-Apr-13 16:28:31

How's it all going? Are you enjoying it?

Indith Thu 25-Apr-13 16:56:43

In the main, yes. We MUST sort out seeing each other SPB. I shall try to get my head around it. Need to make sure I keep seeing you and other village friends and children, something with kids and something without kids every few weeks! Really, really missing people. Has been so crazy though trying to settle into stuff and get children settled into new routine. But that's no excuse really, the children need to see their friends too, I know they are missing the days playing in the park after school and stuff. Where possible on days I'm studying at home I'm going to try to pick up from school and play in the park if you are able to join us then that would be lovely. Otherwise weekends of course though I end up studying a lot. Would be easier if ds2 bloody well slept of an evening so I could work! I really, really, really, absolutely ADORE bf him still. Seriously LOVE it at the moment but honestly right now something has to give and sometime I wonder if that's going to be it. Except of course it might not work and then I'd have given up something wonderful and still not have a sleeping child.

Next quiz is 17th May so I need to try to get everyone together as we all missed the last one and get us booked in.

Anyway I shall see you Saturday though I know we won't really get the chance to talk much!

Oh and SPB, birthday present for T, I have various Lego things and 3 small boys to divide it between. Does T have any of the following?

Lego brickmaster Atlantis
Lego brickmaster City
Lego City sticker book
Lego minifigure sticker book
Small Lego City set (number 4436) the one with police car and barrier.

StealthOfficialCrispTester Thu 25-Apr-13 17:22:41

You are very organised, you know how useless I am about meeting up sad Definitely will make plans soon - trying to think when I next have time off, right got to dash, just had a work call as I was off out to collect children!

StealthOfficialCrispTester Thu 25-Apr-13 20:52:29

Sorry, you askedabout lego. I don't think he has any of those exactly however he does have a lego ninjago character encyclopedia (hmm) which sounds like it might be similar? and a lego police car at Grandma's. He does love lego grin

Indith Thu 25-Apr-13 20:56:36

Excellent. Nothing similar so that's nice and easy! Encyclopedias are great, ds1 has the lego star wars one and reads it for hours on end grin

Indith Sun 28-Apr-13 16:01:02

SPB you are fabulous. Have had a much needed cake break. Who did you get to do it? It looked brilliant, tastes rather good too!

Back to the essay.

StealthOfficialCrispTester Sun 28-Apr-13 16:59:46

grin Glad you liked it, hope it's helped with the essay!
It was the cake place in Langley Moor. Am quite angry that not one person assumed I made it - everyone asked "where did you get that from?"
Maybe they've seen my previous efforts.... grin

Indith Sun 28-Apr-13 20:31:47

Well your skills were praised you know, people said things like "SPB is a very good baker.....but I don't think she made that one." And you are a very good baker. Must say I missed the annual "help! Ds wants THIS for his birthday cake!" thread grin. I even managed to refrain from asking if that was what one of your cakes looked like when you let it cool down before icing wink.

It must have helped with the essay. A few referencing tidy up jobs (read: how the fuck do I reference that) to do and a conclusion to write in under 80 words because that is all I have left. It is a STUPID essay and I hate it. The summative version is the same bloody title just 1000 words longer. I ahve focused on 3 areas and left myself with stuff to put into each of them for expansion so hopefully it will be quite easily written and involve less swearing. I'm off now to eat more cake make my lunch for tomorrow and pack my bag.

ArrowofApollo Sun 28-Apr-13 22:05:53

Have been spectacularly shit at sorting out Daniel's passport renewel, with the result that I will be phoning to make an appointment at the passport office as we are going abroad in just over 4 weeks shock
Fuck. Just what we needed especially as financially things have been pretty fucking tight since just after Christmas. Hopefully though in the next few months we will be back on track.
Anyway once I get an appointment will arrange meet up for cakey goodness (I have a feeling I wil need it!)

Did someone say cake? I'd kill for some cake. Instead I'm on the stupid o'clock train to London so will have to make do with overpriced hot chocolate and random stuff from the trolley.

Sympathies on the passport. They are ridiculously expensive. Fil offered to pay for us to go abroad but the cost of 5 passports meant that we had to say no. sad

juneybean Mon 29-Apr-13 15:43:26

Don't get the shortbread, I was so disappointed on East Coast with the shortbread sad

Hot chocolate was nice. Now on my way to Nottingham so will have to sample east midlands trains' trolley selection. Ooh the glamourous life I leadgrin

Indith Mon 29-Apr-13 18:22:36

Ooops Kara. Oh well, it isn't that much more expensive.

Last time we went to France we had to get 3 passports. Was hideous. Mine has run out now and I should really renew as Mamie in France is old and failing rather so I need one in case of last min travel. But the nagging money saver part of me doesn't want to as it feels like a waste hmm. Must do it. And countless other things.

Ds2 teething horribly.

And dd has had loads of soft and squishy and sometimes runny poo since Thursday. No obvious reason, no obvious trigger, she isn't ill.....it is like she has toddler diarrhea hmm.

ds2 asleep on me, am going to attempt to put him down. Need to organise my notes tonight, find the council tax reduction certificate (benefit of being a student!) and do my action plan for my file. That's my minimum list for tonight.

Ds2 had the poo thing. He's fine in himself but doing 7 poos a day. Luckily Nursery haven't banned him...

How's the hunt for a second car going?

ArrowofApollo Mon 29-Apr-13 19:24:20

7 poos a day shock

Spoke to passport office they have said I do have enough time to do the post office route, they are processing applications very quickly.
Hope the course is still going well!
what about visiting Botanics on Monday? or will it be hideously busy?

They are small poos, soft but not too runny so it isn't too bad. Just annoying when you have to change him for the umpteenth time that day. delightful topic for teatime

Indith Mon 29-Apr-13 19:30:04

Oh good, fingers crossed you get it all done on time.

FIL is going to be here monday I think, hoping the weather nice to go to the beach.

7 poos, pah, dd can beat that. Trouble is the need is very urgent so most end up in her clothes and running down her legs. I is like weaning poo, you can see bits of undigested food in it. Is 4 not a bit old for toddler diarrhea?

Indith Mon 29-Apr-13 19:31:04

The teething one by the way is awake again and feeding. And I have looked in every pile of crap in the house and I can't find my certificate. The admin office will believe me if I tell them the council lost it and want to see another copy right?

Bet they get asked for duplicates all the time. They'll just roll their eyes at you and think you are a feckless student grin

This hotel bed certainly beats the last one. I can sleep horizontally and not touch the sides. I have retired to bed with a chocolate orange and am going to watch CSI and NCIS until I fall asleep about 8.30 I reckon I could get used to this. grin

Indith Mon 29-Apr-13 20:08:47


One day I shall no longer have a child perma latched between the hours of 7 and 6.

He's started taking a sippy cup of milk off dh when he wakes up at 6. This is gooood.

He is still up a couple of times a night though as his eczema is horrendous at the moment. My poor baby looks like he's been burned all over sad

Indith Mon 29-Apr-13 21:49:47

poor baby. ds1 is really bad at the moment, a lot of eczema prone ones ate, not sure why but this winter seems to have been bad for skin.

ArrowofApollo Tue 30-Apr-13 07:24:36

Poor little boy, Spiggy sad
Indith I am too awaiting that day!
Actually I really ought to go to Down on the Farm and use the Groupon voucher!!
How about Wednesday or Friday for cake instead?

Am free this Friday if anyone fancies doing anything? Ds1 has a teacher training day and I WILL be taking a day off.

ArrowofApollo Tue 30-Apr-13 14:12:39

Friday would be good for me!

Yay! Shall we see what the weather will be like and decide from there?

ArrowofApollo Tue 30-Apr-13 18:11:52

OK! hope it stay sunny!

Indith Tue 30-Apr-13 20:10:01

After a terrible practical today in which I could NOT hear blood pressure at all I have just purchased my own cuff and stethoscope. Anyone who wishes to visit my house will have to consent to have their blood pressure taken. I may also wish to take your pulse and add an extra minute on to the pulse taking while I stare at your chest do your respiration rate while pretending to still be doing your pulse so that you don't start breathing funny.

StealthOfficialCrispTester Tue 30-Apr-13 20:36:41

I'm always happy to get my BP measured - I've been pregnant so far so will probably faint when it has apparently shot up smile

(Just don't you do the same...)

StealthOfficialCrispTester Tue 30-Apr-13 20:38:36

Sorry to hear about eczema sad
And I did go to sleep at 8.30 last night, in a B&B bed grin DD was up for about 2 hours the night before, by 4.18am I decided enough was enough and got up (would have been getting up at 5 anyway) and so last night was very very welcome - I slept until 5.30!

juneybean Tue 30-Apr-13 22:58:51

You can take my BP as long as you don't break the blood vessels in my arm like the locum did on the one and only time I had my BP done hmm

StealthOfficialCrispTester Wed 01-May-13 12:23:35

Urgh. I have to say I always think "that's getting a bit TIIIIIGHT" and jut when I'm about to say something it deflates smile

StealthOfficialCrispTester Wed 01-May-13 12:24:25

Just reread my prev message, I am NOT pregnant! I meant I've only ever had it done when pregnant

ArrowofApollo Wed 01-May-13 13:53:57

I was wondering if I had missed something ;)

Bloody washer stopped working angry only 2 fecking months old! I think it is going again now, have an engineer visit booked for Friday (DH working from home so I can still come to Durham, yey!). But I think it is working again.
Need to check the waste pipe when DH comes home though as I think there maybe a blockage.

Boo to broken washer but yay that you can still come out.

I've just got my payslip. The difference in pay between my usual grade and the one I'm working in now?

£1.92 a day.

at least I won't miss the high life when I revert back grin

ArrowofApollo Thu 02-May-13 08:33:55

Cake is on you ;)

What do you fancy tomorrow then? Try for botanics?

ArrowofApollo Thu 02-May-13 18:09:41

Botanics. will being a picnic lunch. 11am okay?

Anyone else? Any lurkers want to come along?!

VikingLady Thu 02-May-13 20:28:35

I've got groups to go to tomorrow sad

Skive off Viking. If I can, you can grin

ArrowofApollo Thu 02-May-13 22:33:12

Your groups will still be here next week!

Indith Fri 03-May-13 08:39:08

Have fun folks, hope the wind blows those clouds away for you! I am launching an attack on work, going to some bf refresher training and then attacking again. By the end of today the essay will be done. By the end of the weekend I will be all caught up on everything and organised ready for the start of the new modules we are picking up this month. Only a month to go until placement!

Indith Fri 03-May-13 18:07:04

finished my essay! for once I'm pretty much on track with my to do list. no more tonight unless I do a bit of reading later as dh is going out drinking and curry eating so I shall most likely spend my evening with ds2

StealthOfficialCrispTester Fri 03-May-13 18:15:21

Well done!

Well done. Hope A gives you a bit of peace tonight so you can relax. Sounds like you've been non stop for a while!

Just ordered our curry. I over ordered just so I'd have leftovers for tomorrow and won't have to cook then either <classy>

Indith Fri 03-May-13 19:28:24

grin I like that plan Spiggy. Boy looks like he is feeding to sleep sp I may get to eat in peace before he wakes up again. I picked up naan and jar of curry sauce earlier and cooked my chicken when I did tea for the gremlins so quick reheat job and I have my lazy mare dinner for the night. May have to eat some vegetables tomorrow.......

ArrowofApollo Tue 07-May-13 14:11:03

Hope everyone enjoyed the Bank Holiday weekend :D

VikingLady are you up for Adventure Point Monday 21st? Anyone else want to join us (it's in Darlo). Both VL and I are already members so don't worry if you are not as we should be able to get a few people in on our membership cards.

Indith Wed 08-May-13 14:28:04


Which weekend, the first one or the last one?

With kids or without?

Daytime or evening? Even without kids could do a nice adult boozy sociable lunch.

I miss you all!

ArrowofApollo Wed 08-May-13 15:43:32

I can't do the end of the week as we will be in Spain.
Can do beginning of the week. Though going out in the evening is proving difficult as C doesn't go to sleep until 8pm.

We miss you too grin

Will have to check the football times for any non child friendly activities. Dh has been a star looking after things while I've been out and about that I think he deserves his football time uninterrupted grin

Indith Wed 08-May-13 18:03:11


I'm not going to tell him I've mellowed on the football. Don't want him getting used to it wink

Had a nice night out last night. It turned out that 7 of us from Newcastle and Glasgow offices were staying in the same hotel so we had a bit of a get together till chucking out time

Indith Wed 08-May-13 19:24:59

you are going to miss this travel lark when it is over!

Oh it has been nice not having to worry about getting the train back home in time for feeding time. Means i can stay until the work is done rather than pick it up at a different time so I get some down time, not just travelling, feeding and work. T seems ok with the arrangements as well. Boob when I'm around and cows milk when I'm not. No tears about it. Probably good timing as daddy is the favourite at the moment traitorous child grin

Indith Wed 08-May-13 19:43:14

I'd love to get to that point feeding. ds1 stopped early. nicely and gradually but early. dd I stopped as I couldn't cope. s2 I don't know....mostly he is ok if I'm out for the evening but past 10,pm I'd be pushing it. he was better when smaller! if he isn't teething though at half term we are attempting night weaning again given that placement is next month! in the day we are happily at boob with me and just food and water other times. he likes to feed after lunch still at weekends.

I can't think that t is getting much now as I've not been getting too full while away. I've expressed at night but not had to in the morning. Just getting into Newcastle and not feed him since Monday night and I feel a little full but not uncomfortable still going to clatter around outside his bedroom in the hope he wakes up though

Indith Wed 08-May-13 20:11:18

Don't complain! I felt lik eI had settled down the past week, wasn't uncomfortable at teh end of today then today I was so engorged and in pain from around 3/4pm onwards. By the time I picked the oiks up I couldn't hold A without flinching and by bath time every time one of the children so much as brushed my breasts I had to bite my tongue to keep from yelling.

Indith Wed 08-May-13 20:12:45

And my arm is sore because I had my first hep b today.

An dI have a cold.

And I have a whole load of anatomy to do and I DON'T WANT TO!

I want to wallow in self pity and chocolate.

Argh. T asleep and has been all night. I NEED TO FEED HIM!!

The little blighter had perfect timing when it comes to picking his rare sleeping thoughshmm

Hope you feeling better this morning Indith. You don't really want to wallow in chocolate. It would be awfully messy and you'd be finding bits for weeks afterwards. Far better to wallow in self pity and eat the chocolategrin

StealthOfficialCrispTester Thu 09-May-13 08:50:43

Indith do your work (if you havent already)
Yay to t sleeping through but sorry about the sore boobs hopefully hes woken now and youre feeding
I have a new phone and strugling with punctuatiin

VikingLady Thu 09-May-13 19:23:55

Am very much up for Adventure Point on 21st! We like to try and get there as soon as it opens so V can play without other parents getting in the way, but very happy to bring in guests if they are ok with that!

Indith, I sympathise with the engorgement - I was away from V a couple of weeks ago and by the first evening my bra was agony and my boobs appeared to have been replaced with cauliflowers!

ArrowofApollo Thu 09-May-13 21:26:52

Cool, Viking, will head up as soon as I drop the boy at school.

One of DS's friends is having a birthday party and DS and DD are invited but it is on the 25th. DH will take them though I might suggest if he doesn't want to stay to just drop DS off. We do have DSS up that weekend which may slightly complicate things. However I should still be able to come up for lunch.

Indith Sat 11-May-13 20:48:13

1st June. Curry. Please, please pretty please?

StealthOfficialCrispTester Sat 11-May-13 20:52:52

I definitely can't sorry sad
Can possibly do later in June (although I know we're away another weekend mid June too) or if the others can make that day then leave me out?

StealthOfficialCrispTester Sat 11-May-13 20:53:18

Should be able to do quiz though smile sure that's a great comfort

Indith Sat 11-May-13 21:07:01

Ack. Shall wait on a few others and see. I can't do the first weekend of half term now and I am feeling selfish and in need of a night out as dh seems to have fecked off somewhere. He was out last weekend for curry with mates. Out last night rowing in preparation for a race today. Won first round this afternoon, very pleased for him. So he had to race again. I took dcs home to feed them and he still isn't bloody well home! I had plans for tonight. Some of them involved eating. But it was late when I got back with oiks so I did quick stir fry for them and put them to bed. Ds2 has refused to let go of my nipple. a few mins ago I took him off and he screamed while I made spaghetti hoops on un toasted toast (toaster refused to work). So I have eaten a bit but still hungry!

So I am feeling pissed off grin

I was supposed to be having a bath tonight. Fire kept in today for that purpose. Baths have to be planned in summer as can't get enough water hot enough for a full bath with immersion heater.


No dinner, no bath.

I suspect another round or 2 may have been won and they are celebrating.

So I'll have a pissed dh to deal with.

The fucker can sod off and sleep in the loft. I'm not adding a smelly, snoring bloke to my usual wriggly bed partner.

Indith Sat 11-May-13 21:07:21

Quiz good though!

StealthOfficialCrispTester Sat 11-May-13 21:08:17

you definitely deserve a night out!

Curry? I'm in! grin

Just arranged to meet a couple of friends from uni and asked dh of he'd meet one of them. He said that he had just after we started going out and D had given dh a stern warning that he'd be in big trouble if he ever upset me. I've been grin all day. totally going to take the piss out of my "big brother" when I see him

X post. Hope you will deposit 3 small children on him very early in the morning.

Indith Sat 11-May-13 21:24:16

ds2 hits his fussiest time around 4:30am. if of course I can safely leave him at that point.

Entirely justifiable.

Shall we start planning your birthday weekend away now?

Indith Sat 11-May-13 21:32:15


StealthOfficialCrispTester Sat 11-May-13 21:34:04

ooh yes it's the big one this year isn't it? 21...
I'm up for something (if you fancy it) assuming you don't want to come and help DD blow her candles out smile

Indith we neeeeeed to celebrate your birthday properly. ok we'll probably fall asleep at 10 but we'll be child and husband free

Indith Sat 11-May-13 21:39:03

so long as we plan around A's party

StealthOfficialCrispTester Sat 11-May-13 21:39:55

OK, you can have first pick of the soft play party time slots. I'll wear my socks without the holes grin

Indith Sat 11-May-13 21:40:15

can it just involve cocktails and a room full of king size beds for us to starfish in?

StealthOfficialCrispTester Sat 11-May-13 21:41:14

yes actually your idea sounds much better than a sticky ball pit and weak orange squash

Indith Sat 11-May-13 21:41:31

soft play? giant ball pool? tell you what stick a bar in jumbo jungle they'd do a good after hours trade grin

I've always said they should do soft play for adults. Imagine the cleaning bill might be prohibitive though...

StealthOfficialCrispTester Sat 11-May-13 21:45:55

I'd like to think there'd be less vomit
That said, those slides after a couple of cocktails...

Indith Sat 11-May-13 21:47:13

hmm yes alcohol and slides. . ditto poo and wee in the ball pool really.

They might need a bigger bouncey castle as well

Indith Sat 11-May-13 22:03:38

oh he is home. and I shall eat humble pie. 4 rounds, he gotthrough to final so actually caught first bus he could.

StealthOfficialCrispTester Sat 11-May-13 22:12:10

Well done to your DH!
He was still messing around on water though while you were juggling three DC. I still think you're entitled to be peeved, though making him sleep elsewhere might be a bit cruel grin

And it is still worth planning a birthday treat grin

juneybean Sun 12-May-13 01:29:58

I can do 1st June.

I came in here (not realising you had all been chatting) to moan about the fact there's another MNer with a Juney name <wails>

But you are the original and best grin

ArrowofApollo Sun 12-May-13 08:35:43

I can't do evenings atm. And will be in Spain on the 1st. Have a great time. And my pils have decided to visit us over the bank holiday weekend hmm so that scuppers all my plans for then.

Indith Mon 13-May-13 08:35:06

juney you are the best juney around grin

ArrowofApollo, not long now til holiday! Just keep thinking about Spain while the inlaws are around. Happy thoughts will get you through!

Had the BEST conversation with my MIL yesterday. She always likes to think that she wants/needs to be needed and useful and helpful but she doesn't actually like to put herself out. So she has decided that she ought to be doing something to help us poor, struggling souls now that I have abandoned my family. Conversation went something like this:

I could help with the washing

Erm... (thinking how? you live in Leeds!) washing isn't really something I struggle with.

Well I was just thinking, I mean you think of what it is that you need most. But I could do your washing. G could bring it down to Leeds and I could do it for you.

Erm.... well what I actually struggle with is cleaning and tidying to be honest. Washing isn't a problem (thinking huh? you want me to pack it up, which in itself will take more time that sticking it in the washer, and then send it down with dh on the train, who wil then have to get it to your house and pick it up again...)

Well, you know, if G comes down for a few days he could take some of your washing.

Ok, well, we'll think on it (because you know I need my washing doing so badly that it would be worth my husband staying away during the week just to get it done and therefore not being here to help with cooking and bathtime and bedtime and looking after the non sleeping one in the evening while I study.)

Well you just think of what you need doing most. But if you need washing doing we have a dryer so I could do it all in one day.

Well as I said I don't really struggle with that, I struggle with tidying etc.

Oh, well, erm. We are thinking of coming up to Northumberland to see [dh's dd] so I suppose we could even come in and help out onthe way or something. Or if G drops some washing off we could bring it up with us. But you think about what you really need help with and let us know.


I told dh he could be the one to ring her back.

StealthOfficialCrispTester Mon 13-May-13 08:41:19

grin get g to post her a single pair of dirty pants every other day with an sae

StealthOfficialCrispTester Mon 13-May-13 08:44:53

Ooh speaking of boys pants has remjnded me. Does a wear swim pants and can I palm three leftover probably too big pairs on you?

StealthOfficialCrispTester Mon 13-May-13 08:46:26

Ooh speaking of boys pants has remjnded me. Does a wear swim pants and can I palm three leftover probably too big pairs on you?

StealthOfficialCrispTester Mon 13-May-13 08:46:54

The mans are back. Looking a bit hungover

Indith Mon 13-May-13 13:38:08

I hope they are being less dusty and water turning off today.

StealthOfficialCrispTester Mon 13-May-13 14:05:17

No in fact they have gone and they hoovered before they went. Place looks cleaner than normal!

Indith Mon 13-May-13 16:28:46

Clearly I need some mans grin

I joke but my house is a shit tip. My lovely mum was saying that she could come up once a month or so and do a good clean. I had to bite my tongue to stop from pointing out that for the petrol she could just pay for a cleaner once a fortnight grin. I suspect she wants to see the children more than she wants to clean my house, the cleaning is just an excuse.

You know when you ask for just a trim, about an inch off your hair and you always think it is a bit shorter that you really wanted?

<eyes new haircut that is distinctly shorter than planned>

<vows to never let dh near my hair again>

I may have to overcome my pathological fear of hairdressers....

ArrowofApollo Mon 13-May-13 22:24:05

Oh dear squiffy!! That is not good!

Indith - my house generally looks like a shit tip. Sadly I don't have your excuse I am just a lazy cow!
Still had a right proper tidy up of the DCs' shit toys now so I can now see my carpet again hmm
And satisfied my OCD by putting everything in the right place!

I'm getting used to it. Bloody short though. 4 inches he looped off shock

Indith Tue 14-May-13 19:35:23

My call is important to them.

It is.

It really is.

So, who is going to do curry then?


We need to go prod sticky, golden, frozen, leggy etc!

Indith Tue 14-May-13 19:39:34

My call may not be answered before closing time. They are sorry for any inconvenience this may cause. I can visit them online if I want. where I will not be able to find out anything and I will not get my rant question answered.

I'm in! grin

Indith Tue 14-May-13 19:47:16

<<does the curry dance>>

And cocktails right? There will be cocktails won't there? It will be June so surely we can brave the outdoors to both be able to drink cocktails AND talk to each other without shouting. Or go to the Slug instead though cocktails are not as good as Ebony. Oh and if Leggy comes the Slug don't let babies in in the evening I don't think.

Indith Tue 14-May-13 19:47:48

They are really busy assisting other customers by the way.

juneybean Tue 14-May-13 20:05:28

<shakes butt> currrryyyyy!!!!

I think I may have to bring James along with me as well ...

Indith Tue 14-May-13 21:15:29


Indith Tue 14-May-13 21:15:44

Oops smile

Babies allowed outside at ebony I'm sure- didn't a come along one night?

Am definitely up for curry even though I have discovered that I am worse off having upped my hours and working at the next grade up hmm

Just been out with a friend I've not seen in about 5 years and another I've not seen for 8. Bloody hell that was good. grin just a shame I have to be up for a meeting at 9 am...

Indith Wed 15-May-13 07:00:18

yes babies ok at ebony. rubbish about work spiggy, how the hell does that work?

Bloody childcare, Indith. The extra hours and pay don't cover the extra day in nursery. Estimated childcare costs this year? £12k shock

We could have paid off our mortgage with the money we've given nursery over the years. Good thing the little blighters are worth it can you tell I haven't seen them for a couple of days?

Oh and the student loan people take a big wedge of the new money so I never see it. Bastard.

Indith Wed 15-May-13 20:02:31

Sodding student loans.

Still trying to get them to give me my money!

Not sure about curry. Velcro baby tends to melt down if we're not in the dark feeding by 8. Not sure if he'd sleep in the sling for long. Will have to see how much banked sleep I have by then before deciding. Tonight and last night not great. Hoping we aren't hitting 16wk regression early!

Spiggy - I feel your pain. 3 x full time children at nursery = £2150 per month. £25,800 per year. Thank God oldest is off to school in september. I am paying to go to work sad

Indith Thu 16-May-13 13:42:16

frozen that is hard! so glad dd is off to school Sept. currently 16k a year. roll on final year with 2 at school and ds2 getting his 15 hours. my NHS bursary is giving me 1.5k a year for childcare! I had better get a job after this! just printed a huge bf workbook, quite impressed at the pathway laid out for the next 3 years.

ArrowofApollo Thu 16-May-13 15:48:47

1.5k wow, that would barely cover a month!!
I keep looking but again finding it difficult to find a job that would cover childcare costs for 2! Let alone 3, but I guess it is short term pain for long term gain. it must still bite though, Spiggy /Indith/Frozen.

is there any plans for a weekend meet up for the 25th?

Indith Thu 16-May-13 15:50:59

don't think I'm here 25th

sat on metro hugging bag to chest to hide soggy patch after spontaneous random letdown on platform. why then and not in class watching video full of newborns?

I was working in head office on wed and someone bought in a 9 week old. All was fine until she started making 'I want milk' noises and the mum ignored her. My boobs were bad enough after 3 days away but that nearly finished me off. Good job I had a padded bra that absorbed the worst of the leakage...

Frozen that is a hideous amount of childcare costs. It WILL be worth it in the long run though. Plus it means you get to go to the toilet without 'help' occasionally. And drink a hot drink. And have grown up conversations. (although I caught myself the other day just before I pointed out to my colleague all the nee naws going down the roadblush )

Indith Thu 16-May-13 18:11:41

eyes on the goal for most of us it seems.

ice creams in the garden for pudding great ideas my kids have st times!

Thank God for salary sacrifice, it makes my nursery bills much less painful knowing I can deduct 27% to get the actual cost to me. The limit on the new childcare tax reboot scheme or whatever it is should be much higher; within reason I think all childcare outside school should be tax deductible.

StealthOfficialCrispTester Fri 17-May-13 13:19:16

shock at 16k

Indith Fri 17-May-13 16:40:31

yes dh does salary sacrifice. new scheme won't be as good as is per child, current scheme us per adult so you can save twice. plus New scheme I think both have to be working so with ne at uni we wouldn't qualify.

But ... Really, you don't count? Don't you get a bursary, doesn't that kinda count as earning?

Bonkers. I would say write to MP but ... Well my experience of ours is you'd get a letter back saying, yes Tories are evil! We will make everything better when we get back in! And that would be that...

Indith Sat 18-May-13 10:21:08

Being a student is all kinds of fun. I remember when I was finishing the last degree I was part time so I wasn't a student and had to pay council tax but on the other hand I WAS a student so couldn't get any benefits. On the plus side because I WASN'T a student I also got housing benefit which pretty much came to the same amount as council tax so covered that problem nicely!

I think with the new system it just depends on how many of you are working and how many children there are as to whether or not you get more money but the part about both parents having to work sucks as you won't be able to claim any help to give mum a break if she is struggling with PND or to pop toddler in nursery 1 day a week when new baby is born. One of you wants to do a part time course or OU module to help further career/get back in the job market? Nope, no help.

Now then, Spiggy you will be proud of me. I have bought more clothes. I got some pretty t-shirts and a dress. A short, midthigh dress! However, I am struggling. YOu know that top/tunic I got in fatface? Wrap front, long sleeves, flowers round the bottom? It is too short for leggings, it would break the golden rule of leggings and not showing your arse. But it doens't look good with skinny jeans. Maybe because my skinny jeans are not suck you in skinny. Does one do jeggings? Are jeggings just jeans with elastic waist or are they leggins pretending to be jeans? Can one go shorter with jeggings than one would with leggings? Does one's knickers show through jeggings the way they do with leggings? I don't want superskinny jeans, I value my comfort grin. And what the fuck are treggings?

this I wear with leggings. It is arse grazing so passes test and looks good but this is the annoying one that is mid arse and does not pass the legging test thus is languishing unworn

juneybean Sat 18-May-13 15:04:13

I'm currently doing jeggings, mine are jeans that are stretchy and elastic (perfect for my stupid small waist and fat ass)

I got mine in Asda for £12

Is curry a definite date then? Have we booked / should we booked? I remember last time we clashed with the Miner's Gala and couldn't get The Capital.

Re: childcare costs, I remind myself of:
- value of me having a job once they're all at school
- the fact that I absolutely had to finish my PhD otherwise the ESRC would have been able to reclaim all my maternity pay
- the fact that the current setting is the absolute best for my children: Durham university nursery was not a good fit for R & C at all, judging by the tour we were given. I do sometimes think how much money it would have saved me though sad

Indith Sat 18-May-13 22:13:59

I didn't get on with the university nursery either Frozen. You have to trust your gut. And yes, it will be worth it.

Yes yes yes for curry. Not booked yet. Will poke a few more people and then book, even if it is just the 4 of us (me, Frozen, juney, spiggy) then that is a bloody good catch up and night out I reckon!

Right. I am closing the books (working m way through MASSIVE breastfeeding workbook that I fear will be the bane of my life for the next 3 years but is a must to comply with UNICEF baby friendly). But right now the baby is actually asleep in his bed and not dangling off my nipple so I might be able to catch a hug with my husband as the baby currently cries if he catches anyone else touching me.

J and I snuck off for a smooch while ILs entertained both kids for 5 minutes earlier. Was a nice change after 3 months of just holding hands around the baby in bed!

Velcro baby and toddler both asleep, latter no longer wheezy and coughing, why am I still awake??,

Btw, Frozen I think you are right that R is much better off in her curnt place. DUDN would have been too big for her to jump into. Reckon C would have been fine ;)

I do remember feeling uneasy about the size of the middle room once all gates were open and the toddlers could mingle with the 2 yos when I first took T round, ut once they have been there since the baby room and you know all the other kids and staff you can see how they all k ow what's going on and it's well controlled.

Indith, I'm impressed with the buying of more clothes but you lost me at jeggings. That sounds a bit more complicated than my clothes knowledge can cope with grin .

What night did we say for curry? Mmm curry...

Indith Sun 19-May-13 10:50:57

I know a lot of people who loved the university nursery. Dd would have liked it I think but we lived here by then. It was too big for ds1 though.

Curry on the 1st. woohoo!

I may have to venture to the shops again.

Indoth, I need some clothes too if you want to join forces! Particularly some soft, loose combat style summer trousers. In extra long. It'll doubtless be a long fruitless day for me so better with company!

Indith Sun 19-May-13 13:00:01

Sure smile

If you wanted to try Newcastle then next week I only have classes Tuesday and Thursday so one of the other days I could go in and hit the library for the morning then meet up and have lunch and a potter. But I have no money (buying new car this week and have just ordered carseats for it) so cheap hybrid trousers of some description have to be the only thing on my hit list!

goldenretriever Sun 19-May-13 18:51:30

Eeek at nursery fees.

MIL/AIBU question: I had asked if she could buy my Ds a coat as part of a gift, she came back with a plain one + explained she hadn't bought him a bright one 'so as not to draw attention to him because of the way he is' He is autistic/has learning difficulties.

Btw, Lilleth, I took your advice on board with other things + did apply for DLA, as have signed the form to initiate the SEN.

Indith, excited that your first placement is coming up, assuming its Community? Horrified your maintenance loan isn't through. Decided to give up on the idea if Body Balance for the time being. We all kept being ill, so I decided I am meant to be a lazy git for a while longer.

Would be up for curry smile Am on holiday in a caravan next week, so its assuming I survive that, however...

StealthOfficialCrispTester Sun 19-May-13 19:12:06

ugh did she definitely say that? Or did she think the bright colours would upset him iyswim?
Hope you get the DLA stuff sorted and enjoy your holiday in the boat caravan

StealthOfficialCrispTester Sun 19-May-13 19:14:24

BTW not disbelieveing you! Just trying (very hard) to give her the benefit of the doubt! But I'm very probably wrong

goldenretriever Sun 19-May-13 19:22:56

Unfortunately, Stealth, the old dear made matters worse by adding that she didn't want to draw attention to him. Obviously I have been dressing him in brighter colours than usual since then!

VikingLady Sun 19-May-13 20:07:31

goldenretriever That is shocking! Perhaps he needs something in bright pink to really set off that coat? grin

Back to a previous subject, is there a meet up at AP in Darlington tomorrow?

Leggy, I think when I visited the staff were having an off-day but it was a deal-breaker for me (I also wanted a 'familial' setting). Everyone with children at the uni nursery loves it, of those I know ... very much horses for courses!
Re: our nursery, I can't think of a nicer place to give my entire salary ... [sob]

Indith Sun 19-May-13 21:22:54

shock golden. I'm speechless. hurrah for curry. do you think we can justify taxi share between 2 of us or shall we just brave the erratic late night buses? note I don't list driving as an option. I need alcohol.

juneybean Sun 19-May-13 23:00:02

Yes I'm hoping to drink also... are we sharing Spiggy?

ArrowofApollo Mon 20-May-13 06:18:24

Golden that is an outstandingly ignorant comment from your MIL. Am angry and sad on your behalf.
Indith you totally deserve much drinkinage. grin

Darlo meet up today 9.30-10.30 ish at Adventure Point. Join us if you can!

Ooh meet up today? Will try and come. Have day off for T's birthday but dh been called in to deal with something urgent <sigh>

And golden- your mother in law is a total cow. How you didn't belt her I don't know.

Damn, Indith just got reminder about dentist tomorrow, so no shopping for me this week.

Oh forgot to say yesterday- definitely up for curry on the 1st. Juney I think I will get the bus to Sunderland. It has worked pretty well the last few times and is cheaper than the taxi from Washington (v important point at the moment)

Indith Tue 21-May-13 13:20:41

Ok so


I'll book tonight (if I remember!) 8.30 for curry with time for drinks first?

Anyone seen sticky?

StealthOfficialCrispTester Tue 21-May-13 13:23:43

envy have fun

Indith Tue 21-May-13 13:48:32

we must do something. stupid quiz being cancelled.

Thanks for booking Indith smile

juneybean Tue 21-May-13 17:19:36

Gateshead Council drop a huge clanger today, they sent a mass e-mail and forgot to use CC... sent them a swift reply!

Any who, Sunderland for a taxi should alright Spiggy!

juneybean Tue 21-May-13 17:19:51


why do I never proofread!?

Indith Tue 21-May-13 18:16:32

booked capital, my name, 8:30 on sat 1st June. booked for 6 so there is room for one more if we spot anyone else.

StealthOfficialCrispTester Tue 21-May-13 19:52:30

Hmmm wonder if I can make it up from sherwood forest...

juneybean Thu 23-May-13 21:28:49

Is it too soon to start asking what we're wearing?

Indith Thu 23-May-13 21:55:30


goldenretriever Sat 25-May-13 16:15:04

Attained a holy grail this week by having my son's (pretty poor) birthday card read on CBeebies!

Indith, I don't mind driving there and back on the 1st, or attempting public transport. I am trying to save my pennies (as well as for starting Uni in September) as I got a text on Tuesday from a large Coke company (the drink, not the first class drug) to say that I had won tickets to see Beyoncé. Mmm, I thought. I rang them back after a garbled voicemail from them and it was actually for a trip for two to New York in August for three days (with spending money) to see Beyoncé on her American tour, hurrah! My second best ever win and proof that my pathetic hobby/obsession with entering competitions occasionally works!
Sorry for the ramble, was as giddy as a kipper. Anyway, Indith, let me know what you reckon, don't mind picking you up or can stretch to a cab if need be.

Indith Sat 25-May-13 17:05:57

yes uni gets expensive! shall have to check last bus time, I'd rather avoid taxi expense if poss as bys will be half the price.

youand spb can have a cbeebies card club grin

Indith Sat 25-May-13 17:11:00

10:20 or 11:20 for bus, how does that sound?

goldenretriever Sat 25-May-13 18:13:15

Bus sounds good, then a few crafty shandies can be consumed!

Ooh well done on the Cbeebies card Ds1 wanted us to do one for t but I don't do craftygrin

Am looking forward to next Saturday. Mmmm curry...

Indith Mon 27-May-13 08:24:15

Anyone want to go to the Botanics either Wed or Fri? Ds1 has specifically requested a visit over half term smile

Ds1 and Dd are at my mum's until Tuesday. Last night we began the night weaning again. There are a couple of molars coming through but the antibiotics have got rid of the neck lump so I think we are healthy as we are ever going to get and dh is off work for the week so tough luck baby boy! I slept in dd's room, a whole floor and 2 door between me and them so I slept reasonably well grin. Apparently it wasn't too bad so fingers crossed. Dh is cuddling and singing and walking around with him for the first 2 or 3 nights. Once we have a few nights under our belt of no milk then he will move to settling him in his own bed. Going to miss my snuggly bedfellow but given that I'm starting shifts on delivery suite where I'm not going to be there for bedtime etc and I may well be following my mentor onto night shifts at times it kind of has to be done.

ArrowofApollo Mon 27-May-13 10:08:14

Sounds like the night weaning is going well. And you are right this is the kindest thing to do in the circumstances.
I was going to try with DD but she was poorly, all better now but probably not best to do it when we are about to go on holiday. Will try after we come back.

juneybean Mon 27-May-13 11:18:43

I could do botanics Wednesday? Got all three of my beasts.

Wednesday sounds good.

Hope it continues to go well Indith.
Hi to everyone else smile

Wed good for me grin

Indith Mon 27-May-13 20:42:17

ace. what time? another friend coming too and she doesn't really do early grin

VikingLady Mon 27-May-13 22:19:59

We have a teddy bear hunt on Wednesday and I'm down for peer support for it (bf group activity), so no Botanics for me sad

ArrowofApollo Tue 28-May-13 07:13:18

I'll be going to the Airport on wednesday so will have to give it a miss!

Indith Tue 28-May-13 14:26:46

be sorry to miss you Viking. arrow you get no sympathy going off to sunny places!

booked ourselves a cottage in the peak district for the end of august. should be nice but bloody hell august is a long way off still.

I think we'll be at botanics 11 ish tomorrow. fees fish, run riot, picnic. possibly soggy picnic but hey ho we won't melt.

curry soon!

juneybean Tue 28-May-13 18:29:41

Yes it does look like there'll be rain tomorrow! Ah well, bit of water will help them grow! I'll get there about the same time.

I can ask what we're wearing on Saturday now can't I?

Indith Tue 28-May-13 19:02:36

depends on the weather and where I'm at with the washing.

golden what bus do you want to get into Durham?

Indith Tue 28-May-13 21:05:14

2 nights dealing with the baby and dh has turned into me. he is raiding the kitchen for ice cream and other shit of an evening.

Indith Wed 29-May-13 08:39:33

well at least the gardens won't be busy with this weather!

juneybean Wed 29-May-13 16:36:25

Sorry sorry children are unpredictable! Hope you had fun.

goldenretriever Thu 30-May-13 12:04:28

Hope you all enjoyed the gardens yesterday. I visited my Aunt and after commenting how nice her new carpets were my eldest projectile vomited over them...

Indith, had a squizz at bus times, what do you think? Was thinking around 7 ish, but don't mind

Western Ave 18:16 18:46 19:16 19:46
Stags Head 18:22 18:52 19:22 19:52

At least he has lovely manners grin
Hope hes ok btw

Indith Thu 30-May-13 13:00:08

grin golden. guess she got to see how well they wash! the 18.52? next one cuts into cocktail time!

goldenretriever Thu 30-May-13 14:27:34

He was pretty much ok once he had annihhilated the carpets, thanks Stealth. Indith the 18.52 will be grand, will see you then.

Woo! Nearly curry time grin

am actually dribbling at the thought of lamb methi and a large naan. mmmm yummy.

What time do people think they'll get to ebony?

Indith Thu 30-May-13 20:09:57

Well me and golden will be there by 7.30.

Chingri sagwala (or however you spell it) and garlic naan. Yum.

goldenretriever Fri 31-May-13 12:35:21

Goes to drool at menu whilst at work...

Indith Sat 01-Jun-13 08:59:19


Woo! grin

juneybean Sat 01-Jun-13 10:45:34

Where's the bloody sun gone?!

Indith Sun 02-Jun-13 00:03:00

thank you you wonderful lot.

forgot my keys. dh had locked the door. whoops! guess I've lost any sleep in points.

juneybean Sun 02-Jun-13 08:31:04

Lovely night, great to see you all.

Oh no indith! Bad luck!

goldenretriever Sun 02-Jun-13 15:02:19

Surprisingly I wasnt locked out after getting the last bus. Cocktails and curry - definitely a winning combination!

I was with you in spirit on Saturday - went to bed with A at 8pm, full of lamb bhuna and peshwari naan. Glad you had fun!

Indith - after that late from rowing debacle I reckon he still owed you! ;)

Indith Mon 03-Jun-13 15:05:26


I think his getting his own back was rolling in a little worse for wear at 1.30am this morning after a wedding grin.

But then he had to get up and sort all the children out this morning <<evil>>

Night weaning was rather undone last night though. Got ds2 down. He woke 45 mins later. I tried to get him back off and failed so left him for a bit. He stopped yelling after a few mins and all was quiet. Waited 5 mins before going to check, assuming he had gone to sleep but he was sitting in the middle of his cot and burst into tears as soon as he saw me sad Cuddled him and he clung to me for dear life (am trying not to feel guilty, only left him a few mins and he merrily goes to sleep on his own for the childminder). Ended up snuggling and feeding on sofa. When dh got home we were in bed together and dh was in no shape to be dealing with him so we spent the night together.

Thankfully my mentor has just done her week of nights so I think I have 6 weeks until I'm on nights and therefore getting a nice long run of uninterrupted daytime sleep!

goldenretriever Thu 06-Jun-13 22:52:03

How has your first week gone, Indith?

Indith Mon 10-Jun-13 17:58:23

first week was good. Lots of learning to do! Shattered after yesterday (13 hour shift).

ArrowofApollo Tue 11-Jun-13 08:05:26

Wow, that does sound tiring!
Sorry to hear the night weaning isn't going well. I hope it improves again quickly! Am thinking of having a go this weekend but am thinking I need to sort out her ridiculous bed times first, DD is not going asleep until 9pm!! It is crazy!

Indith Tue 11-Jun-13 09:31:32

Maybe the 2 go hand in hand? If she is night weaned and therefore able to go off to sleep without a nipple in her mouth (assuming she still wakes briefly between sleep cycles at night) then she might be happier being popped into bed in the evening and chattering to her toys for a bit before going to sleep.

Glad the first week went ok. Did you get to try the comfy shoes? grin

I have been lured into going to a school event. It is only when we turned up that they told us that it goes on till 8.10. shock shock I've not had any tea and I'm starving. Plus I have to sit through 14 schools dancing. I thought I was just coming to see Ds1. Heeeeeeelllpppp!

goldenretriever Tue 11-Jun-13 22:38:13

Bah humbug to school events.

Gulp at 13 hour shift. Have been told by Uni that they will let me start in September now. I will be a lady who wears comfortable shoes. Not that kind though.

Good luck for school thingy, Indith.

ArrowofApollo Wed 12-Jun-13 22:46:37

Yep, that might be helpful!

ArrowofApollo Thu 13-Jun-13 07:52:39

Well, I must have worn her out yesterday as DD slept from 8.30pm - 5.30am, and then until past 7am! Longest sleep ever!!
Yesterday she had a nap from 9.30-11am (I woke her up as she was going to miss her birthday party!) and she dozed off on me at around 5.30pm but I woke her up. She did have a busy day as she had her party in the morning then we walked to school and she walked most of the way there and part of the way back (she is currently hating the carrier, pushchair and the car seat hmm).
Doubt very much she will repeat it tonight! Anyway Happy Birthday DD, 2 today!

Indith Thu 13-Jun-13 15:45:37


Happy birthday Kara!

DS2 has been all velcro and unable to sleep. Was wired with learning to walk. Still kind of is I think, still stuck at doing single steps. Then he started looking like he was coming down with something and last night ran a temp and puked all over me at 3am. Nice.

Indith Thu 13-Jun-13 15:46:12

Oh and golden I'm glad you get to start in Sept. Not long now!

Oh fantastic Kara. Fingers crossed for a repeat performance!

Indith, hope A feeling better today.

Indith Fri 14-Jun-13 16:14:19

So the past rather a lot of few days my jeans have felt tight which has put me in a rotten mood, I've been in a horrible mood and I've been completely knackered. I should probably have been prepared for my periods coming back!

Fecking things

Maybe I will get pg again to make them sod off.

Is it too early in life for a hysterectomy?

Not if you have endo...!

Seriously considering drastic action if mine come back as bad as before again. That's drastic, like major ablation, not drastic like pregnancy! ;)

Hoping BFing will give me until Christmas off at least, Sorry to hear yours are back.

Indith Sat 15-Jun-13 06:21:23

ablation should help a lot leggy. I am in the endo camp really. lots of symptoms and runs in the family, just didn't get round to diagnosis before babies. they tend to be less painful initially post baby then creep up to keeling over levels.

my mother eventually did opt for whipping it all out! sister had ablation a couple of years ago and then uses mirena which helps.

Ahem. Has anybody spotted the latest bar to open in Newcastle?


I believe there was some talk off a piss up celebration of Indith's 30th and a belated hen do for me and frozen. This place seems made for a MN meet up...

Hmm how do you do links on the app?

Just google new gin bar Newcastle....

Indith Sat 15-Jun-13 20:13:08

did someone say gin?


grin grin grin grin

My friend is checking it out and promises to report back when he sobers up

juneybean Sat 15-Jun-13 22:15:43

Ooo there used to be a Vodka bar...or an ice bar... I can't remember... hmm

Any one fancy a Slug & Lettuce meet up soon?

Ooh, I didn't realise others here have endo. I had my first lap just before getting pregnant with R (although there were two additional miscarriages after the op and before the BFP with R). I'd expected the diagnosis for years given my symptoms but wasn't prepared for the extent of it. Luckily, I've not really had my cycles return properly in between children.

During ultrasounds with J it became rapidly clear that one of my ovaries is now completely adhered to other organs (for a while it seemed to have gone missing) so I am expecting more surgery when the pain returns properly, and I will go ahead with a partial or full hysterectomy as required. It seems to be the pragmatic option!

Sorry for interrupting the gin talk! grin

VikingLady Sun 16-Jun-13 09:44:09

Gin grin

I don't know that I have it, but I've got some symptoms and I'm pretty sure I shouldn't be completely incapable of parenting for an hour or two a day 5 days a month ;). Was gearing up to investigations just before getting pregnant with A and will set the ball rolling again if it comes back again when I start cycling again.

Not sure a gin palace and Velcro baby are mutually compatible ... Unless its an afternoon thing? ;) Still haven't done our daytime ebony's meet!

Indith Wed 19-Jun-13 09:47:26

Oh dear lord we made progress, sort of, on the sleep and feeding. Then baby got ill. Now complete limpet, will not be put down AT ALL in the evenings. Just about recovering from random virus and has snotty nose. I'm on nights next week.

Not good.

Not good at all.


goldenretriever Thu 20-Jun-13 10:29:07

Worryingly, I am hungover in Manchester, yet my ears still pricked up when I read the word gin...

Hope nights go ok next week Indith. I am sorted for March 2014 start now, so glad to have made my mind up about it.

Indith Thu 20-Jun-13 17:20:08

well keep pricking them up, spb is trying to hunt you down to invite you for gin at hers tomorrow.....

goldenretriever Thu 20-Jun-13 17:48:29

Okey dokey. SPB - your name funnily came up last week. A mutual friend who is leaving her job tomorrow (lucky her) said you might be popping in to the ivory towers (with cake) at some point - I now sit in the other section from her. Though have been off yesterday and today, thankfully. Ah, cake - another pricking of ears trigger word.

Have realised I am officially an old duffer. Went to concert last night and have felt like a lethargic lump all day - have had to mainline caffeine in order not to cancel on a chat and glass of wine with a friend tonight. Had some Cimarosa white zinfandel rose wine from Lidl yesterday and it had the effect of an okayish tasting horse tranquiliser...

goldenretriever Thu 20-Jun-13 17:55:56

Also, Indith, thought of you the other day went I dropped the eldest at nursery as there was a man outside the school gates of 'that school' with tattoos that reminded me on Joseph's technicolour dream coat. On his head.

Indith Thu 20-Jun-13 18:13:36

grin in case spb doesn't find you I'll pm you my number. you are def invited!

ArrowofApollo Sat 22-Jun-13 08:14:43

Anyone free for a Botanics meet up next Wednesday?

Indith Sun 23-Jun-13 17:17:31

Not me sad

ArrowofApollo Sun 23-Jun-13 19:31:05

It will all be worth it smile

Blimey, it feels like ages since I've been here. Everything still manic, currently doing 3 jobs as well as 3 additional projects. Don't think I've sat down for a week... Did have lovely meeting last week though about producing guidance for employers with breastfeeding mothers. Room full of breastfeeding activists not entirely convinced by my male colleague....till they found out I was still feeding a 2 year old and had insisted on getting involved grin

Sooo how is everyone? Nights started Indith? How's A taking it?

Are we doing something in Aug without children?

Am hoping to get Tuesdays off over summer so can do something with children then?

ArrowofApollo Tue 25-Jun-13 20:28:28

I need a night out.
DH and I were talking about doing something for our Wedding Anniversary in September (our 10th) but DD has only ever been put to bed by me and is still waking up. Thing is, I haven't let myself take the opportunity to make myself really scarce and let DH put her to bed. So he thinks I should just do it and hopefully this may help when it comes to our possible night away.

So when do we all want to do it? Am thinking a Saturday night in July or August possibly going to The Capital Indian.
I've checked my diary next day I could do is 13th July?

Hmm dh may be a bit miffed if I ask for the 13th as I'm out the weekend before (the whole weekend!!! Am reliving uni with a couple of friends grin )

As long as I avoid the Ashes I should be ok for another night though.

ArrowofApollo Wed 26-Jun-13 20:41:35

Okay, we can look at some dates in August, need to have a quick conflab with DH about which ones.

goldenretriever Thu 27-Jun-13 18:00:57

I am always up for a night out.

How are the nights going Indith?

Indith Thu 27-Jun-13 20:20:03

Nights were OK, exhausted though!

Not sure about a night out, not too flush on the pennies right now! I have holiday in August though so would def be up for daytime child entertaining!

Indith Fri 28-Jun-13 17:21:34

balti special garlic garlic chicken garlic is back. me and dh having takeaway tonight.

Mmmmm. Was supposed to have lunch with dh today but had to work through. So he's bought nice wine and lovely food from m&s. Can I get away with putting the kids to bed at 5.45?

Indith Sat 29-Jun-13 10:21:06

Did 5.45 work?

Put kids to bed. Ate curry from Capital. Ds2 eventually crashed after chewing nipples, being handed over to dh, screaming, dh and I shouting at each other and then coming back to me to feed to sleep. Dh managed to put him down on beanbag. Ate gu puddings. Baby still asleep. Carried baby upstairs. Started to erm...snuggle...for first time in months due to never actually being able to put baby down ever. Baby woke up. Bloody baby.

Anyone fancy coming and sleep training my baby for me? because I'm at a total loss. Right now I'd consider throwing the bf towel in just so that factor can be eliminated. I don't mind co sleeping. I don't mind feeding. But I at least need the fecking child to go down for more than 20 mins in the evening and not be glued to one or other of us at all times.

juneybean Sat 29-Jun-13 11:37:14

I'd give it a go as I'd like the challenge, can't promise it would work though haha

goldenretriever Sat 29-Jun-13 17:14:52

Mmm, The Capital. and garlic. And gu puddings.

I managed to get into an argument about cheese last night. I ventured out last night to pick up a takeaway wondering what kerfuffle would occur, as it usually does whenever I attempt to do anything. Bear in mind this is a place I now only go to once a month after they proudly presented my OH with a bottle of wine at xmas for being 'excellent customers'...

When I rang the order in the asked me if I wanted free cheese or donner meat on my 'free' garlic bread I got for spending a lot of money (this is going badly) When I got there they told me they were going to charge me for the cheese as the person taking my order thought it was going to be a more expensive order as he had added up incorrectly and I wasn't entitled to free cheese!!! Needless to say, I ended up not paying for my 'extra' cheese.

Also, after taking the offspring out all morning, my OH said that he would take the pair of them out fir the rest of the day around 3pm. Little head full of plans, I looked out of the window and he had (sheepishly) returned. It was 3.15pm.

Indith Sat 29-Jun-13 18:29:08

hmm at your oh. grin at the argument. tennis to them all I say.

juney you'll have to watch it. I'll take you up on that. I can't pay but it'll look great on your cvgrin

juneybean Sat 29-Jun-13 18:41:58

I'll let you feed me cake! grin

8pm before they all conked out. Even the baby who was utterly exhausted refused to contemplate sleep. hmm

Wish I had a magic wand to make the sleep fairy come for A plus I'd make a bloody fortune we used drugs (prescribed by the gp) with m which got him into 4 hour stretches. It is so utterly grin when you can't have any sleep or even some down time without kids.

Indith Sun 30-Jun-13 09:23:48

drugs would be amazing. I keep finding my fingers typing things like millpond into google. but we are both snotty now. last night was fun hmm

ishchel Sun 30-Jun-13 10:14:36

Is having a child free 24 hrs at home. grin shall bimble off to a free yoga trial session now.

Indith Sun 30-Jun-13 10:34:42


ishchel Sun 30-Jun-13 13:07:39

I recommend yoga (after 1 whole lesson) feeling totally stretched and relaxed.

ishchel Sun 30-Jun-13 19:01:21

for those of you who seem me around FB. I am on an enforced holiday. grin I made elderflower cordial today. It tastes lush.

Indith Sun 30-Jun-13 21:06:47

mmmm elderflower. not gathered any this year which makes me sad. I appear to be rather busy.

enforced holiday? I hope you are ok my dear.

Indith Mon 01-Jul-13 13:17:25

Dh says as part of my turning old I can go see either, or possibly both Megson and Show of Hands at the Gala in October and November. Does anyone want to come with me? Am very much struggling. Anyone who might have enjoyed it has moved abroad. Selfish whatsits.

ArrowofApollo Mon 01-Jul-13 14:18:51

Don't worry will be having regular meet ups during the summer holidays at the Botanical Gardens!

Indith Sun 07-Jul-13 15:11:23


What do you think?

I cannot WAIT for August and holiday. I have so much to do before then! I have an exam on August 1st then an assessment to record on the 5th and then I am DONE. DONE DONE DONE DONE DONE and I fully expect you lot to come to Botanics, Beach, Cake eating and whatever else with me all summer long because I miss people.

juneybean Sun 07-Jul-13 23:26:45

That dress is adorable but far more than I would spend... maybe... although saying that I've bought from Monsoon before.

ArrowofApollo Mon 08-Jul-13 07:59:30

That is gorgeous that dress!

Yes for Botanics visita! I'm away w/c august 3rd, so w/c 10th? Can do any day of that week.

Indith Mon 08-Jul-13 18:00:37

I know juney, I stillfeel guilty at the price but I panic bought! had a bargain ebay one but I've slimmed a little at it is too big now with the wedding coming up really soon.

goldenretriever Mon 08-Jul-13 20:01:40

Oooh, nice dress. There is something about this weather that makes me think 'f%$^ this shit!'...

juneybean Mon 08-Jul-13 21:22:51

Oh well, if you half the price between the two dresses it's not too bad! </juneys odd logic>

Indith Mon 08-Jul-13 22:23:30

and you have to split cost between 2 weddings.

I can't be doing with this heat either. melting, sleepy lethagy

goldenretriever Sun 14-Jul-13 18:12:39

Juneybean - did you decide on a course to follow?

I have dropped my expensive mobile down the (clean) toilet. It has been in a bag of rice all week. I have fears for it's recovery.

Isn't it somebody's big birthday approaching? (Looks away innocently...)

Indith Sun 14-Jul-13 18:43:55

oh dear golden. it isn't anyone's birthday, tis frozen and spiggys hen do wink

I should start a thread.

Indith Sun 14-Jul-13 19:26:03
goldenretriever Sun 14-Jul-13 19:39:00

SPB, forgot to say, one mention in the Mumsnet talk round up email is impressive, two is rubbing it in!!!

ArrowofApollo Tue 16-Jul-13 12:30:41

Can I put in a tentaive date for Botanics?
Wednesday/Thursday/Friday of w/c 29th July. Can't meet up before then as Mater is up.

ishchel Wed 17-Jul-13 01:00:30

I will be in France. :-) that week, AA.

Here is a good one. DD2 told it was too late to play out. she put her shoes on anyway as I shut the front door with the key. Then nothing. then the doorbell rang. I see no one o/s. It rang again and I assumed it was the kids next door looking for her but I ignore it. Then I went looking for her. She was no where in the house.

The minx had opened and jumped through the dining room window and was no where to be found. Went looking for her and found her at next door at the older gentleman's she likes to visit, just cooling her heels off. He'd asked and she told him that I knew where she was.

The first time I am grounding either of my children. She is heartbroken cos it is the first time she is grounded.

This thread had fallen off my threads I'm on shock

if i am allowed to submit a defence I am doing two full time jobs at the moment and rapidly losing and threads of sanity I had left. I can't wait for Monday when my job share for the project comes back from his hols. I'm torn between flinging my arms round him in gratitude that he's back or slap him for leaving me with all the work while sending "helpful" emails from Spain.

But I do have some good news. We saw a new Dr about T's eczema and got a magic new cream that completely cured it. As a result he had started sleeping through the night. Even occasionally having a lie inshock shock .

So how is everyone else in this sweltering heat?

goldenretriever Fri 19-Jul-13 17:19:51

My OH has ripped his calf muscle playing football. The day before a school meeting, you can imagine how sympathetic I was...

ArrowofApollo Fri 19-Jul-13 22:47:58

Hot and DD still not sleeping through the night sad And DS getting into bed with us at 4-5am...

goldenretriever Wed 24-Jul-13 19:27:42

Worryingly, I have another tale of an inappropriately disposed of animal. We found a baby hedgehog outside our house at week end. My OH gave it water, bought it some chicken and cat food and lovingly watched it in our garden. Next morning he asked me if it was hibernating, I replied with 'No. It is the deadest thing I have ever seen' I went out and he faithfully promised to give it a nice resting place. Upon coming
back and asking him where, he replied with 'I chucked it over the fence' It is some bushes on some Council land, but FFS. I am totally being cremated or will end up fly tipped down the lines...

ArrowofApollo Mon 29-Jul-13 14:45:14

Oh dear GR!

Is anyone up for a Botanics meet up on Thursday/Friday?

ArrowofApollo Mon 29-Jul-13 19:57:10

Oops, sorry can only do Thursday this week!

juneybean Tue 30-Jul-13 15:59:53

I have it on good authority that the pancake shop in Durham is child friendly if anyone fancies it in September (don't like meet ups in holidays cos I don't like kids ... Lol)

ArrowofApollo Wed 31-Jul-13 06:49:18

That's one to think about!!

Let's put the Botanics off until the week after next, I know Leggy can't do Thursday and I will definitely need to meet up with her to pass on some nappies (and the stair gate!).

Just getting this back on my tio.grin

Can do tues or wed next week. Things still a bit hectic at the moment so apologies for being rubbish at keeping up worth things. Been asked to stay in my temp promotion till Nov/Dec but there's also the possibility of a permanent promotion. Keep your fingers crossed for me!

much more importantly do we have a plan for Indith's birthday?! I'm off to find the other thread....

BanjoPlayingTiger Fri 02-Aug-13 20:27:13

Hello! I have said hello on here before, but it was just before we moved and I completely forgot about it with the moving house thing.
I'm in Durham, have older kids and am up for a meet up at some point.

Hello! <waves> welcome to the thread. We have been a bit quiet recently but we try and get together regularly particularly when we need to get away from the children and drink cocktails

I'm further north than Durham but I like to visit for the company. (cake, curry and cocktails being a bonusgrin)

juneybean Fri 02-Aug-13 21:46:37

Like Spiggy I'm further north than Durham but it's a lovely little circle in Durham so I don't mind the travelling grin. I'm the childless weird cling-on one aka the nanny.

BanjoPlayingTiger Fri 02-Aug-13 22:05:06

I like the sound of cake, curry and cocktails. Though not necessarily in that order grin


ArrowofApollo Sat 03-Aug-13 20:30:10

Welcome Banjo smile

How about a week on Wednesday? 14th August? At the Botanical Gardens, assuming the weather doesn't turn to shit.

VikingLady, I can come pick you and V, I'll need to remember to swap cars with DH though!

I should be able to do that. The person I've been covering for is coming back to work that week so I'll be able to take some leave as I'll not be doing two jobs famous last words

ArrowofApollo Sun 04-Aug-13 07:51:05

it's too late spiggy you've set a precedentshock

Indith Sun 04-Aug-13 10:10:44

One more assignment to go one more assignment to go one more assignment to go and then I'm on holiday! holiday! FOr a whole month!

Golden stop reading now.

i just have to completely clean teh house. The sinks and loos and everything are just murky brown and horrible. Kim and Aggie are not allowed anywhere near my house with their swabs. The carpets and floors are crunchy and sticky in turn and the entire contents of the house are piled onto various surfaces where they have then fallen to the floor, been shoved under tables and chairs and a new pile started which has fallen to the floor and........you get the picture.

It has been a little bit mental recently!

However I have passed first placement with respectable marks thankfully. Not sure about my practical exam, we shall see. Got 80% on my essay though grin grin grin. Got to finish planning my dvd today though as recording tomorrow then I am FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

apart from needing to do the writing for the dvd, getting papers in order for next placement and planning the 3 presentations I need to do next uni block and various bits of reading

But I AM going to have at least a week of guilt free holiday.

Indith Sun 04-Aug-13 15:39:55

I would just like to point out dh's epic lack of forward planning.

His mum and her dh have sold their house, they are buying a bit of a wreak that needs doing up and will be renting somewhere in the meantime. Most of their furniture therefore will likely end up in storage.

So dh says to me "mum says we could have one of the sofas as they would have to be recovered anyway"

I go. "huh?" what do you mean recovered? I wouldn't bother recovering if we had one of them.

No no, I mean we wouldn't have to worry about the kids getting it mucky as she wants to recover them once they have done their new house up anyway.

So, erm....why are we having one of their sofas if they will want it back?

Dh- Erm, hmmm, I don't know, just they are more comfortable than ours and they won't have space for them.

Well yes darling but we'd have to get rid of ours wouldn't we as we don't have space for ours plus theirs.

Oh, yes, erm, I suppose we would.

And then in 6 months time we'd have no sofa at all.

Oh, erm, yes, didn't think of that.


I do take his point, our sofas are crap and I'd love to get rid. I'm going to live on ebay for the new few weeks and bag us a bargain. Quite like this one, not sure how comfy it is though!

BanjoPlayingTiger Sun 04-Aug-13 22:54:49

Damn, can't do the 14th.

I will keep my eye out for other meet ups though.

Indith, sounds like you've got your work cut out - both with the studying and your dh grin

Indith Mon 05-Aug-13 16:24:53

Spiggy where do you shop for H? Dd needs a major wardrobe sort out (most of her trousers are 2-3 blush no wonder she can't do the buttons up!). Been looking today and all the age 5 plus stuff seems to be small harlot rather than small girl. Age 4-5 is still small girl but I don't see the point of buying 4-5 now. I did buy a rather fabby dinosaur t-shirt from the boy section in Sainsbury's though.

I know what you mean about the girls clothes. They are either small harlot or unbelievably twee. I've been trying to find girls school uniform that isn't covered in hearts, butterflies or fecking glitter. I usually end up trawling a selection of shops to gain enough suitable stuff. Sainsbury's, boots and John Lewis normally have some decent stuff in amongst the crap. But you do need to go to the big Sainsburys to get the best selection. We should club together and go on dragon's den to propose a shop that sells affordable, robust and age appropriate clothes for girls. We'd make a fortune!

I was in John Lewis today and they had some good stuff in. Harry also in stuff that's too young- and she's growing like a weed at the moment. Time to invite grandma over for a shopping trip, I think. grin

Indith Mon 05-Aug-13 17:51:46

Thankfully I have a bundle of hand me downs for school uniform from a mum with fabulous dress sense with an equally fabulous dd so that is sorted. But the rest, makes me shudder. I saw a very nice multipack of t-shirts but I don't want t-shirts, she can finish the summer with what she has! Even if I manage to find something that isn't covered in ponies and kittens, glitter, hearts, is a decent length, isn't mini fashion skinny backless supermodel crap then it is usually pink. And dd doesn't really do pink.

I need a joules/boden/frugi budget but I just don't. I don't even have ebay joules/boden budget as it seems to go for silly prices.

Mini joules was in the sale at John Lewis today. Didn't see what the prices were though as I was on an emergency lunchtime mission to source a new jelly cat toy for h as t has stolen hers and refuses to go to bed without it. I got her to donate it to the worthy cause of getting the little blighter to go to bed on the promise of a new yellow one. Yes, my parenting does rely heavily on bribery and corruption. grin

Indith Mon 05-Aug-13 18:23:23


juneybean Mon 05-Aug-13 18:32:01

I love Matalan's girls clothes, they're not too slaggy! And dare I say Asda, bought my girls lovely items in there! Always the same old colours though :/

Indith Wed 07-Aug-13 08:06:43

Argh! You know that "I want to quit bf but I don't want to quit" frustration?

want to quit- non sleeping, wants to have all night feeding parties without the nice settling to sleep while feeding and letting me sleep part. Teething therefore chewing me to shreds.

Don't want to quit- he is so little, I love snuggling him before bed and how happy it makes him. I long to be oout the other side and have him sleeping and jsut feeding morning and night.

juneybean Wed 07-Aug-13 13:06:21

Will he go into his own bed if you give up? If so, can't you feed to bed then none through the night or have I described what you already do lol

Indith Wed 07-Aug-13 13:41:36

That's what we are trying to do Juney! But then he wakes up and screams lots. Dh was dealing with him when he did that but now he is getting fed up and keeps handing him over to me at which point ds throws himself at the nearest boob and won't take no for an answer <<sigh>>

How do you tell if a baby with molluscum also has chicken pox? <frets>

Indith Wed 07-Aug-13 18:49:08

Wait and see if it blisters? <<helpful>> I have no idea.

He has lots of blisters but had them for about 6 weeks. Molluscum confirmed, told not to worry it'll be there a while. Now one looks suspiciously poxy and nursery say pox is going round again. Aargh. I've got things to do next week.

juneybean Wed 07-Aug-13 19:55:10

Spiggy Where is it?

Indith ....CC?

He's got a couple of patches. On the top of his thigh, tummy and elbow. The suspicious one is on his chest. Close enough to be associated with the tummy patch but far enough away to be something else..oh well I'll find out in the morning if he's covered in spots.

Indith, would doing it the opposite way round help? You go first and feed him then hand him to dh when he starts playing silly beggars. That way dh knows he doesn't need boob and might be a bit more resolute. T was allowed to swap boob twice and then he was handed over to daddy. Although that was for my benefit rather than dh's grin .

T has now been conditioned. If he wakes up dh goes in, days "mammy's in London" and t will lie down and go back to sleep. It even works if I'm not in London grin

juneybean Wed 07-Aug-13 20:17:30

Fingers crossed it's not chicken pox!

Haha poor T grin

Are we getting any where with a night out?

Indith Wed 07-Aug-13 20:18:15

yup the wait and see method will be the only way for you. fingers crossed it isn't.

yes I think boob first might be the way to go. attempt for all night in own bed settled between feeds then withdraw milk because just withdrawing milk isn't working!

Indith Wed 07-Aug-13 20:19:55

but at the minute it is a moot point as he is teething so while I went out for a run dh gave him calpol because dh has not yet learned that calpol = hyper. ibuprofen = zonk at bedtime!

Medised even better grin . I would like to point out that I do not randomly drug my children, it was prescribed by the gp

Indith Wed 07-Aug-13 20:34:32

ah the golden days of medised. twas allowed when our biggest boys were small wasn't it. ds1 certainly slept on it but he'd wake all groggy and disturbed and just not happy. tempting though!

FrancesDeLaTourCoughngIntoABin Wed 07-Aug-13 20:36:50

Hi found you
And I can do the 14t!

Indith Wed 07-Aug-13 20:40:23

what are we doing on the 14th? too lazy to scroll back on phone.

I should have had shares in it when Ds1 was small. Bloody tonsils.

Speaking of Ds1- He is currently sitting in the garden next to a bucket. I'm not going to make it to work tomorrow am I?

If my children are fit enough, we'll be at the botanics on the 14th.

And now ds2 has joined the party <sigh>

FrancesDeLaTourCoughngIntoABin Wed 07-Aug-13 21:34:42

ahh back on (dying) laptop, phone will not lt me post on long threads often
It's StealthPolarBear btw
spiffy, sorry to hear about the ill children sad
Indith, sounds like you're doing really well in your studies
golden, you really make me laugh! grin at the thought of you being chucked over the fence

Indith Thu 08-Aug-13 08:50:26

How are the spots Spiggy?

Tried feeding and putting back down last night. Ds2 did not like that at all. Not AT ALL.

I'm lost. If I had money I would actually pay someone.

co sleeping- doesn't work. Fusses, hits me, yell as me.
Not feeding in our bed- doesn't work. Crawls over dh and launches self at my nipples to resume the above.
Not feeding in his own bed- doesn't work. Wakes up and yells lots and doesn't resettle until after 2 hours yelling dh gets into spare bed with him where he tosses and fiddles and refuses to settle until at 5am dh chucks him at me.
Feeding and putting back down in own bed- he feeds then resumes the above and refuses to settle.

Answers on a postcard.

Juney we tried CC. We really did. At first it seemed we were making progress then it stopped. I can cope with CC for a few nights if it works but 3 or 4 weeks down the line as we are now it is just leaving him to cry for long periods of time several times a night, every night which to me is just cruel.

On the plus side he is kind of going down in his cot in the evening and staying there until midnightish which has to be progress of some sort!

I have no idea what to do bedroom wise. Think ds2 is going to have to go back into our room and then dh and I decamp to spare bed.

I'll take a and you can take the pox ridden baby? <sigh>

FrancesDeLaTourCoughngIntoABin Thu 08-Aug-13 19:04:02


Indith Thu 08-Aug-13 22:11:19

if you rub t against a and a gets the pox I could give him piriton. piriton might make him sleep.

hope t isn't too grumpy and it is all over soon.

BanjoPlayingTiger Fri 09-Aug-13 07:59:01

That sounds like a nightmare Indith. I have vague memories of similar when ds was little. I wish I could tell you what changed, but to be honest I think it was just the passage of time. I do know that even at 10 he still needs less sleep than the average person so I think I came to the conclusion that he just didn't need as much sleep as I did.
That really won't be any consolation at all will it? Sorry. blush

I guess what I am saying is "this too shall pass". It was my mantra at the time. I hope it passes for you more quickly than it did for me.

juneybean Fri 09-Aug-13 17:21:56

Hmm wish I could help Indith, I really have no experience and all I'd do is probably sit and pat him whilst you and DH slept!

Ick I'm feeling very hopeless at the minute, not sure what I need probably a sharp kick up the arse if any one can get time out for tea soon, I'd enjoy that!

FrancesDeLaTourCoughngIntoABin Fri 09-Aug-13 17:30:27

What's up juney?
Are we still on for the 14th then? Am I even invited, I know I have been a poor thread contributor blush

juneybean Fri 09-Aug-13 17:46:40

Not really sure what's up, feeling a bit stuck in a rut, all my friends are off getting married and I still haven't moved forward :/ not sure what I really want either.

Indith Fri 09-Aug-13 22:11:59

juney I can do tea and cake any time smile

sure sleep will resolve at some point, it did with dd eventually. mostly.

I'm up for 14th botanics.

We'll not be at botanics. T is covered in spots. I don't reckon he'll be clear enough by wed. sad currently lying in bed watching cbeebies attached to boob.

<sneaky hug for juney>

ishchel Sat 10-Aug-13 10:38:18

What time are people planning to be at the Botanics on Wed? I'm planning on going.

Indith Sat 10-Aug-13 11:00:11

I don't mind, what time do people want? probs 10-11 or so for us and I'll bring a picnic.

sorry about the pox spiggy, w and d sorry h and m won't be there.

ArrowofApollo Sat 10-Aug-13 22:41:14

Yep, 10-11. Boo to pox, Spiggy!!!
I'll bring a picnic too and my picnic blankets.

I have a proper poorly boy sad . He's lain on me all day twitching gently. His temperature is sky high and he's STILL getting blisters although they aren't coming through as quickly as they were. I want to make it all better for him and I can't sad

ArrowofApollo Sun 11-Aug-13 13:16:33

oh no poor T!!!

VikingLady Sun 11-Aug-13 22:32:44

Poor little T! And poor you, not able to fix it.

Indith I could have written your post myself (the long one about lack of sleep and solutions you've tried). V hasn't slept properly now for 3 months. Feeding all night is bad enough, but DH can't sleep with her in the bed (morbid fear he'll squash her + she kicks him in the kidneys), and she twiddles whichever nipple she's not feeding off!

This is the first evening I've been able to get to my laptop to MN properly! My phone is too lousy and slow to let me post, so all I can do is lurk, really slowly, turning the screen away from V so the glare doesn't wake her.

Juney Most of my friends are getting divorced. Oddly, they were the smuggest marrieds pre-DCs.....

Have fun tomorrowenvy . T is mainly scabby now but the final crop of spots (all through his hair) are still waiting to burst. He looks absolutely revolting! He has managed to eat a packet of wotsits, one and a half cocktail sausages and a walnut whip. But that is his first food since Saturday so I'm happy with anything.

Saw the gp today as we were only given enough of the anti virals for 4 days and were told to use for 5. Gp told me that they'd never heard of them being prescribed before. Was a bit hmm and confused as the Dr at the hospital was adamant that he needed them (she wasn't a fresh out of med school one either) and the instructions clearly say that they are for treatment of chicken pox. Still we got them and they worked. With spots over his eyes and throat we would have been in the hospital a while otherwise.

goldenretriever Tue 13-Aug-13 20:05:43

Hope he recovers quickly spiffy. Needing a holiday after trip to New York. Would be up for tea out too.

Indith Tue 13-Aug-13 21:25:19

oh the poor boy. glad he is doing better. looking forward to tomorrow, last night dd decided to start spewing everywhere. happy days. nothing at all today though so we are safe!

SPBisResisting Tue 13-Aug-13 22:37:03

OK I'm going to try to get there for 10.30.
G;ad T is feeling better spiggy

VikingLady Wed 14-Aug-13 09:00:05

Glad he's feeling better, even if only slightly!

Dropped toddler at nursery, on our way to Botanics! We'll be in cafe I expect, drinking our soya latte and boobie milk respectively ;)

Indith Wed 14-Aug-13 15:35:41

It is official. I am addicted to buying dresses on ebay. The dress that arrived today is lovely, looks in perfect condition and can still be bought new from the retailer for £65.

SPBisResisting Thu 15-Aug-13 08:35:17

ooh what is the dress for and what's it like?

More clothes shopping? shock who are you and what have you done with Indith?

Indith Thu 15-Aug-13 14:01:35

I like ebay. You don't have to go to the shops and spending paypal doesn't count as real money does it?

It is the myrtle dress from crew clothing. Just a simple, pull over your head sort of dress which is exactly what I wanted. Not too long but long enough that I can wear with thick tights or leggings unlike my sorry little collection of very pretty dresses/tunics which are just too short for leggings but I have not yet managed to summon up the courage to go shopping for some sort of superskinny jegging type thing.

I'm supposed to be elsewhere but we had friends round this morning so didn't end up having lunch til late. Ds1 has only just finished eating and ds2 fell asleep in his highchair shock. Remember this is the child who only sleeps with a nipple in his mouth (unless at the childminder's in which case he merrily naps for hours on end no trouble at all). I got the fright of my life when I looked up and saw him slumped down. I thought for one heart stopping moment that he had choked and died while I was trying to persuade ds1 to eat his scrambled egg. He is now fast asleep on the beanbag shock. Ds1 and dd are bickering quietly because they know if they wake the baby then they will be murdered.

I put t down for a nap the other day (which required me to lie down next to him and hold his hand) and promptly fell asleep. For an hour. shock blush Luckily the big two had the sense to fend for themselves and tucked themselves up in my bed to watch scooby doo with a supply of chocolate buttons

Boy 2 much better now although he's leaving a trail of scabs wherever he goes. Eww.

Indith Thu 15-Aug-13 14:59:58

grin sensible children you have there spiggy!

Glad T is better. Any chance of catching you somewhere before I go back on placement?

I must get my ars in gear and sort out our autumnal fun and games grin.

ArrowofApollo Thu 15-Aug-13 19:48:35

Glad to hear T is on the mend, SPiggy!
Dress sounds lovely, Indith.

In London tonight and tomorrow then I'm on leave for two whole weeks!!!

Name a day and I'll be there (with m and h)

Indith Thu 15-Aug-13 21:53:57

Woohoo! Hurrah for you actually taking holiday!

Wholesome outdoor fun somewhere or just meet up and play?

Indith Thu 15-Aug-13 21:54:27

wholesome outdoor fun can also involve ignoring children and eating cake. They can be wholesome, we don't have to be.

Right, dh has to do a days work next week <sigh>. I'm hoping it will be Monday so we can enjoy the rest of our hols apart from the possible interview I'll have to prep for would that be any good for meeting up? I'm also free Tuesday and thurs if not. When are you back at your placement?

Indith Sat 17-Aug-13 16:38:00

Monday should be fine. Back on placement 2nd Sept but we are away 24th-31st.

T scabby but no blisters so is not infectious just revolting looking

Don't mind what we do as long as there is cake grin

Indith Sat 17-Aug-13 17:25:38

We could just go to one of those garden centre cafes that have play areas..........though I only know of the one near me which is cheating! Anywhere nice somewhere else?

Or the place in Durham that does ice cream sundaes and then go buy a lego brick in the cathedral (they are building a lego cathedral, £1 a brick and you get to put it on yourself).

National Trust cake is expensive.....

Botanics cake is nice but kind of varies a lot as to what they have so often disappoints.

Plenty of cafes have very nice cake indeed but we have too many children don't we <<sigh>>.

ArrowofApollo Sun 18-Aug-13 19:29:57

I'll be up for a visit to Durham tomorrow, Ice cream sundae plus lego sounds like a good plan!

Sounds like a plan. grin

Someone tell me where and when and we'll be there en masse.

And I'll have to have extra ice cream to distract me as I'm waiting to see whether I've got an interview for promotion. 14 applicants and they'll interview 5 at most. <chews fingernails>

Indith Sun 18-Aug-13 19:49:30

Afternoon? Could meet at Palace Green and do Lego then ice cream afternoon snacks?

1ish? Or later?

Indith Sun 18-Aug-13 20:00:18

Then you will def need gin ice cream. Good luck!

1/1.30 works for me.

Fab, will see you there. Shall we take bets on which child will knock the Lego cathedral over. clue it will be one of mine

ArrowofApollo Sun 18-Aug-13 21:12:04

Yep that sounds like a good plan smile

Apollo, do you want to collect wet bag on your way to/from?

ArrowofApollo Mon 19-Aug-13 07:58:22

Going to have to give this a miss after all. Had an awful night with DD, waking up loads crying and was hard to settle. She has a cold and a cough and this morning has stapled herself to my boob.

ArrowofApollo Mon 19-Aug-13 07:58:22

Going to have to give this a miss after all. Had an awful night with DD, waking up loads crying and was hard to settle. She has a cold and a cough and this morning has stapled herself to my boob.

Indith Mon 19-Aug-13 08:02:24

Also out due to the baby having the worst nappies I have ever seen in my life, screaming much of the night and then bringing up his breakfast. I'm no Sherlock but I'm going to go with a tummy bug diagnosis.

Boo to poorly children. Hope they all recover soon. Shall we try for thurs instead?

ArrowofApollo Mon 19-Aug-13 12:20:49

poor ds2!
DS has a swimming lesson later normally would take DD swimming but she is so snotty ATM and just been very hard work, went shopping this morning, clearly yo remind myself why I don't normally take them, DS whining about a hot wheels car he wants and DD tantrumming in the car there and back.

Indith Mon 19-Aug-13 19:58:06

It is all about online shopping.

I take it back, don't think it was tummy bug, think it is just teeth. He has always been extra vomity when teething.

I could do Thursday instead.

Glad a improved and you are not faced with a tummy bug going through the rest of them.

How's c today?

<puts head round door and knocks>

Hi all, can I join in, just discovered this thread by following the trail of cake bread crumbs from the local pages.

I'm in Monte Darlo and love it that we have a general sit down and natter thread for us northern types. I have a DS just gone 3 and we are in potty training hell at the moment.

Indith Tue 20-Aug-13 14:28:20


juneybean Tue 20-Aug-13 16:00:00

grin @ monte darlo, brilliant!


Well thank you for the welcome, does anyone have any potty tips when you have tried all the normal advice shopping, bribery, applause etc and although he is clearly ready still makes puddles everywhere?

I feel I am wondering if DS is going to remember in years to come the wierd time in his childhood when his DM seemed to have a neurotic poo and wee obsession.

Also, the tearing my hair out is starting to make me look slightly strange smile

Indith Tue 20-Aug-13 17:54:30

come and eat ice cream with us on Sunday. good for hair growth and we won't bat aneyelid at puddles.

I'm no good, eldest had constipation issues so was always wetting and soiling then the next one obviously copied him even though she had no problems. only thing that helped us was routine. I didn't ask them if they needed to go I told them. get up go for a wee. get dressed go for a wee. wee before leaving house.wee on arrival somewhere. wee before all snacks and meals.....means you catch most ofthem!

Indith Tue 20-Aug-13 19:43:32

Oh dear. Been trying to get back into a good exercise swing while on holiday. Midwifing is terrible for posture etc so making sure my core is strong is pretty vital to avoid back problems. Anyway with 3 nights in a row of dh being back late I thought I'd attempt to do the Shred since it is on youtube. Ha! Dosed the non sleeping, teething whirlwind up on drugs and sat him in front of Iggle Piggle but he seems to think dodging between my legs while I do star jumps, getting me in a headlock while I'm planking and sitting on my tummy bouncing while I do crunches is far more fun.

I'd sulk and eat crisps while watching the Bake off but he'll only tantrum when I won't let him share....


SPB is your DH still feeling all brrody towards him? He is still very beautiful. Do you think he'd like him for a night or 2?

ArrowofApollo Tue 20-Aug-13 21:05:39

Ice cream Thursday or Sunday? Am confused!

Fill welcome, I some times meet VikingLady at Adventure Point in Darlo, you are welcome to join us smile
C is better but still complaining of mouth and ear ache. Am blaming her last set of molars as she is drooling lots and feeding lots.

Indith Tue 20-Aug-13 21:08:39

why did I say Sunday? Sunday I'll be on holiday. I meant Thursday.

Ahh, thanks for the invite but unfortunately I am on parent taxiing duty on Thursday taking them to shields to catch a cruise ship to god knows where. I think they are spending their winter fuel allowance early.

arrow adventure point sounds great, I have Fridays off so if you are ever doing a meet up then count me in.

Indith, I'm not quite clear, are you talking about your toddler or your DH when you are doing the shred?grin

Thanks for the potty tips inith, I think routine is the thing he protests wildely when I insist he tries on the toilet and does some weapons grade tantruming. Between us and nursery I think we are making some progress but my word it is slow

juneybean Tue 20-Aug-13 22:09:41

grin @ A Indith

I'm feeling very confused ladies, just been on a date with a man... hmm... he seems sweet... but I guess I'm not used to their mannerisms.

Indith Wed 21-Aug-13 07:55:15

juney we need more detail. some of us are boringly old and married and need to live vicariously.

the best part about not ever having another baby ever is that I never haveto to go through teething again. I want these canines through already!

Hello Fifi!

A date juney? With a bloke? more details required <makes self comfy>

Right, one and two are on their way to London with dh. Three is in nursery. Interview postponed till after my hols so I don't have to prep. I have the while day to myself shock with nothing to do shock shock shock I've decided to do something constructive and not piss the day away. I've stripped ask the beds so I can't be tempted to go back to bed. I've bought yummy stuff for lunch. But what shall I actually do?! I'm out of practice with these day off things.

Indith Wed 21-Aug-13 09:34:35

well if you are that bored I can lend you some children. read a book? go to a cafe?

Thanks for your kind offer of some children but, erm, no. grin

If I start a book I'll not stop till it is finished. I think I'm actually going to do some housework shock . No I haven't gone crackers. It is normally dh who does all the bulk of it and had been so fab looking after everything while I've been up and down to London that I want to give him a nice surprise when he gets back. I'll change my mind after an hour and go with the book option

juneybean Wed 21-Aug-13 10:15:37

I wish I'd read this earlier Spiggy, I'd have dragged you out for breakfast!

Bloke is 24, secondary teacher, lives in c le s, seemed sweet, he inferred he wanted to see me again but that could have just been end of the date let me out of here spiel!

goldenretriever Wed 21-Aug-13 12:51:32

Oooh, can I come tomorrow? Other half pissing off to London tomorrow for a few days and need to entertain small children and myself. When and where?

Juney, sounds like date went well!

Indith Wed 21-Aug-13 12:51:50

Sweet is good smile Only one way to find out if he was serious about seeing you again grin. Where does he teach? I know a lot of teachers could get some dirt on him

Are we going for 1.30 Palace Green again tomorrow?

Shall attempt to prevent anyone from throwing up this time. I want sundaes grin.

ArrowofApollo Wed 21-Aug-13 13:47:14

yep that suits me. need to pop back into town to get front key cut again as the one they did me doesn't work hmm

June, a man with actual man parts grin
Do you want to see him again?

juneybean Wed 21-Aug-13 16:37:06

He text me today! He does want to see me again... I think I'll see him again, give him a chance hehe

I'll FB you Indith with the school!

Been a bit long since I did anything with man parts that weren't under 3 year old! (that sounds SO wrong but you know what I mean!)

Indith Wed 21-Aug-13 17:10:48


Man parts are easily pleased.

Indith Wed 21-Aug-13 17:15:27

Oh FGS, baby fallen asleep on my lap. I need to put dinner on. I left dd at the park under supervision of a couple of 8 year olds and her brother. And dh won't be back til late and I need to do work so I wanted him to go to bed on time!

The last 2 canines have hit hole in teh gum stage though so hopefully just another 2 or 3 days of teething hell before we get a few months off. Woohoo!

I'm sure you'll remember what to do with man parts when it, ahem, comes to it. grin

I have not stopped all day. I have emptied the hall of all the crap and thoroughly cleaned it. I have added storage to the playroom and divided the toys into themes dh will particularly like this I have done 4 loads of washing and changed all the beds. This housework malarkey is hard work. I shall leave it to dh in the future and go back to work. It is easier. grin

Have you managed to locate d and get a into bed? Big two not back yet so having a sit down and glass of wine.

VikingLady Wed 21-Aug-13 22:01:44

Man parts - show up naked, bring beer grin

I can't do Thursday. Meeting about possible closure of the MLU in Bishop Auckland. If anyone is interested in having a say, there is a meeting Thursday (tomorrow) at the Dolphin Centre in Darlington at 11.30. Anyone who knows me knows I love having my say....

Spiggy How was the housework? Am laughing my bottom off at the idea!

ArrowofApollo Wed 21-Aug-13 23:20:53

Good luck, Viking!

Juney grin have fun!

Art, Viking, not again? Is this a permanent proposal this time? How did meeting go?

(Why yes I have post-1am-nappy-leak insomnia. GRR.)

Indith Sat 24-Aug-13 09:05:58

how was it viking? hoping to get to the next mslc. Sadly, with Durham getting a pool I won't be surprised if we lose it completely. They have to fight every year for it sad

Packing frenzy, off on holiday! And I can feel my period coming on <<grump>> though also grin since I realised yesterday the condoms we'd been using were out of date. Ooops! <<books dh an appointment>>

Indith Sat 24-Aug-13 11:16:33

so realised me and dh didn't have enough pants for the week. needed stuff from homebase too so go to arnison. I'm wondering round the shop feeling crampy, hot, woozy and sick. come home, look at pants. I have a pack in a size 18 and another in a size 10. neither of which is my size hmm

Indith Sat 24-Aug-13 17:03:38

we got here andthere Wada fresh choc cake waiting for us. plus free WiFi. I like it here grin

VikingLady Sat 24-Aug-13 20:43:50

It's officially a temporary closure, but since the ambulance service can't/won't guarantee an 8m response time 100% of the time in case of emergency transfer, the CEO of the PCT (have I got the right job title?) is pretty much certain to close it. Before that happens they would need a public consultation, but it seems pretty much certain.

They are currently trying to sort funding and agreement for a separate MLU co-located at Memorial.

Indith Sat 24-Aug-13 21:56:04


goldenretriever Sun 25-Aug-13 12:41:35

I wish it was the PCT - they closed on March 31st, to be replaced with NECS, which plans to be a private organisation by 2016 and works for NHS organisations, mainly the newly formed and GP led CCGs, but has no power of it's own. It is all money, money, money. Utter shite. Rant over. Just had to clear up a disposable nappy (the horror) which I cleverly threw down the stairs and exploded with lots of piss soaked bits of silicon stuck to the floor. Now my rant is over.

juneybean Sun 25-Aug-13 21:22:17

Boy wants to go to Beamish for the next date... wtf do I wear, feeling particularly huge and was able to hide behind a table in a big dress that hid my problem areas. But having to WALK in front of him I'm not going to be able to hide any thing!

I've started taking the advice of my old headmistress- wear something bold that makes you stand out. If you have already been noticed then there is no need to be shy. It is working a treat- I did a really important presentation that I was shitting myself about but stood there and figured they'd already noticed my bright purple dress and immediately felt more settled and confident.

goldenretriever Tue 27-Aug-13 11:21:13

I agree with Spiffy, especially on the top half! As long as arse central is covered I feel good to go. Loving the mumsy a line dresses with black tights! Very black tights...

Eek! I may have to take my own advice- I have an interview next Thursday. With a presentation as part of it. I hate presentations.

juneybean Tue 27-Aug-13 15:34:46

I wasn't sure if I'd be a sweaty mess wearing tights as I reckon it'll warm on Thursday, and I melt in the heat any ways without wandering around Beamish argh.

What's the interview for??

Depends how warm it is and of there is a breeze. You can get away with black tights if there is a breeze or it is slightly overcast without melting.

Interview is for promotion. I have a new dress (black with white spots and a kind of ruffley bit) and new shoes (blue suede) sounds strange combination but looks quite smart makes a change

juneybean Wed 28-Aug-13 17:09:39

You lot have rubbed off on me.

I was just reading facebook and read a friend with a 5 month old weaning onto bottles as he's too big and nips her. Made me feel sad as 5 months seems awfully young compared to you lot!

Hi journey, I realise I am sticking my twopenneth in here with no prior knowledge or anything to base this on about you but would loose black linen trousers be any good, cover a multitude of sins, airy enough to deal with heat but warm enough if not? Also, not a problem if you have to go upstairs in front of him on the tram.

Journey!!! Bloody autocorrect

juneybean Thu 29-Aug-13 12:41:49

Oo thanks for the suggestion, I went with shorts and a tee.... however I decided within a second of seeing him again that I didn't actually like him and had to endure and hour and a half of forced conversation until I could feign a migraine and run away sad I'm such a let down.

goldenretriever Thu 29-Aug-13 13:03:51

Good luck for interview, spiffy. How was it?

Juney - his fault entirely, for everything.

juneybean Thu 29-Aug-13 15:14:22

grin too true!

Indith Thu 29-Aug-13 17:27:38

grin juney. oh well!

Sorry the date didn't work out juney. especially had we were all hoping to live vicariously through you

Interview next thurs not today- luckily as I had a horrible migrane this morning. They've decided to only interview 4 of us (out of 14 applicants) so I've already done quite well. It is going to be an hour and a half including a presentation. part of that is to talk about how this team will work with a different team. Dh has just been put in charge of the other team. grin guess I can't just say that he'll do as he's told....

juneybean Thu 29-Aug-13 22:39:15

Sorry sorry, I'll line up some more people just for you lot! grin I'll suffer through them wink

juneybean Fri 30-Aug-13 23:45:22

Well... I'm being mean and toying with the boy, and he's texting me saying he wants to watch a movie with me and I asked which one and he said he didn't mind, he just wanted to cuddle me... taking all of my willpower not to text back "I'm not a fucking teddy bear."

VikingLady Sat 31-Aug-13 09:01:43

Spiggy You can be too honest in an interview!

Juney Does anywhere sell teddy bears that say "dumped" or similar? grin

juneybean Sat 31-Aug-13 14:53:15

Bahaha! grin

ArrowofApollo Sun 01-Sep-13 11:23:10

Spiggy - good luck with your interview smile

Juney - aww shame, still better to cut ties now. Don't leave him hanging on in case he turns out to be one of those stalker types shock

Had a lovely week in Scotland apart from DS's bad behaviour.
Now trying to hide from the dcs as I have a headache but I still need to take DS out to get his school shoes. Except now he is having a massive tantrum and won't let me take him. FML.

Indith Tue 03-Sep-13 23:19:31

oh febrile convulsions and a trip in an ambulance. what larks. bedding down for the night on treetops ward, there is a screaming child somewhere and I've had no dinner! the nice nurse found me alonely sandwich though.

juneybean Wed 04-Sep-13 10:35:15

Ohhh no Indith!! Which child? Hope you're both okay!

shock hope things are ok Indith.

My brother had febrile convulsions from overheating at 12mo and was unscathed soon after. Keeping fingers crossed its the same for you guys.

Indith Wed 04-Sep-13 16:44:54

and home. it was Arthur. I know they are quite common and harmless but blimey it was scary! for. first one it is paramedic, ambulance ride and an overnight stay. then taken all day to even remotely keep temp down.

missed dd's first day of school sad and my blood test. and the start of placement 2 for uni. will prob miss placement tomorrow too to make sure temp under control before he goes back to cm.

juneybean Wed 04-Sep-13 17:05:53

Awww poor boy sad

goldenretriever Wed 04-Sep-13 19:35:51

Hope A is ok. Some things are more important than work x

Sorry to hear that indith, fortunately, we've never had that but a friend has and they are damn scary.

ArrowofApollo Thu 05-Sep-13 10:29:32

Just seen this, hope A is okay today.

Only just seen this. Hope a feeling better now. Scary things, children. Always something new to freak you out with.

Hope you've recovered from it all as well.

Indith Thu 05-Sep-13 19:18:11

Plus- temp has stayed down most of the afternoon. He has eaten a little.

minus- vomit this morning. Hardly drunk or fed, only 1 wee so far today. We've had 2 rather splatty nappies. temp creeping up again now.

juneybean Thu 05-Sep-13 19:49:49

Got any ice lollies?

Indith Thu 05-Sep-13 20:01:17

good point, not tried that.

You know that birthday thing we've talked about but not planned AT ALL? I so needs to happen.

juneybean Thu 05-Sep-13 20:36:39

Can we add in a "juney's going to be single forever so let her have a hen night any ways" party?

juneybean Thu 05-Sep-13 20:40:33
goldenretriever Thu 05-Sep-13 22:21:41

Indith, I demand u at least have to quaff a few cocktails for the big day. I will chauffeur you back if need be. I have also had an interesting week. Small one had first haircut, my Mums birthday and my eldest starting school and having Autism diagnosis. All on same day... Juney, no chance u being single forever.

<hugs golden> I know there were investigations but hearing it confirmed must have been hard. Hope it is the passport for support, for you and ds.

Indith, hope the temp stayed down. I don't think it is recommended now but the children's ward I spent a large part of my childhood on always used fans to bring down temps. When t had the pox he seemed more stable when he was skin to skin with me. I got bloody roasting instead

It sounds like we all need a night out.

Indith Fri 06-Sep-13 10:01:25

Golden you need cocktails too. How has school gone?

Ds2 seems a lot better today. He has definitely lost weight bless him but he is on the mend.

I'm going to light the fire.

goldenretriever Fri 06-Sep-13 13:44:21

Glad to hear that little A is a bit better, Indith.

Thanks, Spiffy. A few cocktails would be more than welcome, though after the 2 yo's 'that's my Mammy's favourite, she drinks it all the time' to the cashier in the Co op this week about the crates of Strongbow there, perhaps I should lay off...

D's first week has gone ok, he us getting one on one and we have been invited to some Autism training next week that all the staff are going to. Although he has taken a fancy to the Headmaster who he got bolognaise sauce on on his first day. D's first day, not the Headmaster! D also cuddles him a lot. However his face is crotch level. Awkward...

Indith Fri 06-Sep-13 13:51:09

smile That's lovely that he likes the head so much, speaks volumes about the school I think. Sounds like things are going well and that they are being really supportive.

grin at strongbow. I reckon we can get 6 of us from round here, we could book a big taxi, get pissed and nobody need ever know.

We have a slight rash. Looks like a typical post viral to me. Woohoo! That means it is nearly over!

Juney my dear you will NOT be single forever. You can definitely have an advance hen do though, less planning to do when you do get married grin.

juneybean Fri 06-Sep-13 14:12:15

We should play mumsnet bingo in RL and get drunk on shots but that'd probably involve getting drunk on a lunchtime since mothers don't go out at night wink

Indith Fri 06-Sep-13 14:24:10

I can do drunk at lunchtime. Gives me time to sober up before I spend the night in bed with a baby.

At what point can you start to drink while cosleeping? I assume I am considerably less likely to do harm to ds2 while drunk squiffy than I would be a newborn.

juneybean Fri 06-Sep-13 14:27:05

When he can push you away when you start snoring on him?

Indith Fri 06-Sep-13 14:48:59


Indith Fri 06-Sep-13 15:02:52

I just spent £70 at Dunelm kitting out his bed. He can bloody well get out of mine now.

Indith Sat 07-Sep-13 08:37:46

On Monday I will get my next lot of off duty, then I will come and put forward some dates for going out.

goldenretriever Sat 07-Sep-13 11:33:49

Sounds like a plan.

Yay. We are on our night away. With ds2. hmm none of the relatives wanted to look after him so he had to come with us.

Still the b&b is lovely and I've had the best part of a bottle of champagne grin

Yay. We are on our night away. With ds2. hmm none of the relatives wanted to look after him so he had to come with us.

Still the b&b is lovely and I've had the best part of a bottle of champagne grin

Can you tell I've had the best part of a bottle of champagne? grin

Indith Sat 07-Sep-13 17:57:44

WHAT! That is SO unfair! I hope he behaves for you.

Enjoy the booze!

We went to the village hall for apple pie and the judging of the scarecrows and the produce show. Ds2 gagged on a piece of cheese and threw up all over the place. He ate a lot of blackberries this afternoon out picking!

Golden you want to join us for the village quiz on the 13th SPB sometimes comes, the friend you met at SPB's house pretty much always comes. Then just a bunch of other local parents. Mostly we try and get tame teenagers to baby sit so everyone can go, sometimes mums and dads take it in turns to come while the other minds the kids, sometimes people bring the kids plus ipads and they run riot and we ignore them and drink wine grin.

Dh walking him round so he can get to sleep. I'm drinking cocktails grin

<squee> I got the job! <does a little dance>

Indith Mon 09-Sep-13 18:06:11

Congratulations Spiggy you fabulous thing you.

juneybean Mon 09-Sep-13 18:57:41


Indith Mon 09-Sep-13 19:46:17

Got my offduty. It is hideous!

Anyway, dates I propose are 28th Sept or, erm, er........

November. I'm at uni in November not placement so can do any weekend.

Yay Spiggy!

Any of those fine for me. My birthday in Nov grin

Thanks for the congrats. I am now the same grade as my dad was when he retired shock . Job is going to be very hard but working with one of my really good friends and also my current line manager who I love working with and who pushed me to get the job. I am still grinning from ear to ear. My lovely, lovely colleague that was also in for the job rang to say that if he had to lose, he was glad it was to me which was so nice of him.

VikingLady Mon 09-Sep-13 20:45:56

Congratulations Spiggy !

juneybean Mon 09-Sep-13 21:32:32

28th is no good for me but don't know about November yet!

ArrowofApollo Tue 10-Sep-13 11:30:48

I can't do 28th as I'll be in Essex but I can do any date in November.

ArrowofApollo Tue 10-Sep-13 11:31:50

OOh just saw Spiggy's news, congratulations!! Hope it comes with extra ££££s too!

A whole £500 a year more, less tax, ni and student loan hmm so nowt then but that is the entry level, I get more for each year of experience until I reach the actual rate for the job after 5 years. And that is more than I'm on now grin

goldenretriever Tue 10-Sep-13 23:37:46

Hurrah for Spiggy! Well deserved.

I would be fine for September 28th or November. Though the September one is near a large birthday... What about SPB?

Indith, would definitely be up for the quiz one week, though this week is a stinker with highlights of medical/school appointments, being dragged to a double bill of Insidious 1 and 2 (I actually think he wants to see me soil myself) and an attempt to replaster and redecorate the change resistant Ds's bedroom. Without him noticing. I am also testing fake tans for a large supermarkets magazine. Attractive...

VikingLady Mon 16-Sep-13 21:54:45

I'm fine for 28th or Nov, public transport allowing....

I need a night out.

Fucking cunting wankering tosspot bastards.

Colleague from work bemoaning on fb that nuts been banned at her son's school with loads of her friends piling in to say that they are just going to ignore it. I may have let rip had a drink how fucking DARE a child have an illness that threatens their (nt) child's love of peanut butter sandwiches. It it's not something that is done lightly (no ban at H's school and I'm ok with that as I trust them to have procedures in place and her allergy is only apparent after ingestion) so it would suggest that either there is a severe problem or the don't share food plan has gone horribly wrong.

I may be defriended in the morning....and I don't fucking care.

ArrowofApollo Tue 17-Sep-13 22:55:09

Some people are just so fucking selfish!!

goldenretriever Thu 19-Sep-13 16:30:37

Spiggy, were you de friended?! They sound like bell ends anyway.

Having week from hell, including both of mine having the sickness and diarrhoea bug. Made grimmer by both being in nappies and one not bei.g able to say what is wrong.

Are we on for the 28th Indith? You know you haven't got much going on for the next two and a half years!!! smile

ArrowofApollo Fri 20-Sep-13 06:10:32

Indith, was it your DS1 who used to suffer from night terrors? Or am I thinking of someone else? Asking advice on behalf of a friend.

Cara's sleep is turning shit again. I think it might be due to all the newborn babies I have been recently exposed to, she is kindly reminding me why I do NOT want DC3...

Wasn't de friended but the air was a little chilly the next day...

Can't do the 28th now, something else on.

Apollo, m had night terrors and t may be starting up with them. Change of temperature worked with m, taking him outside to the cold.

Indith Sun 22-Sep-13 20:32:53

Right, sod the 28th, no planning been done, no time to plan and frankly I will be dead by then.

Before I go completely underground in my attempts to survive turning nocturnal I charge you with planning a cocktail swigging, relaxing birthday/hen party/early christmas do for any Saturday from the 26th October onwards.

Go poke people, gather up the old crowd, entice those newbies who sometimes pluck up the courage to ask if they can have cake with us and then get scared. Let's make it a bloody good Durham MN meet up!

Indith Sun 22-Sep-13 20:36:32

And yes ds1 used to get terrors really badly. Started a few months before dd was born, he could have one every slipping sleep cycle at times. Sleep walking type behaviour, all sorts!

Ds2 can have some lovely screaming episodes at night where is is just yelling "no!" going all stiff, hitting us when we try to cuddle him, pushing boobs away when 30 seconds before he had been asleep with a nipple in his mouth..........he has better bloody not be going down that road!

Spiggy I hope for your sake your ds2 isn't going to be too bad with them! angry at ignorant parents. FGS if their child had a serious problem you can bet your boots they'd be the first demanding the school dealt with it.

ArrowofApollo Sun 22-Sep-13 20:38:16

Thanks, Spiffy. Shall pass that on. Friend's DS appears to be terrified of the dark sad

Indith - challenge accepted :D
Shall we say mid November? I don't think I have anything in the diary between 26th Oct and Xmas.

The Capital? Or somewhere different?

Right I like a good plan. Just let me get through the next week and I'll get planning. It is my first official day in my new job tomorrow. I just checked my email and I have to write a paper on potential new work. For tomorrow night. shock Thursday I am going to a meeting of different agencies as the representative of my organisation. I have no idea what I am doing. I. Am. Shitting. Myself. grin

Ikea do a good cheap light (couple of quid) that you can get with a red shade. It is great for scared of the dark as it is light enough to see but as it is red it doesn't disrupt sleep like a normal light would. We have one for h.

juneybean Sun 22-Sep-13 22:34:49

Cocktails? (a given?!)

Definitely cocktails!

juneybean Mon 23-Sep-13 10:20:20

I may be off 2nd November.... but won't get the rest of my hours til beginning of October.

goldenretriever Mon 23-Sep-13 13:34:58

Hmm, cocktails. Would love to come, but am a bit of a pain in the arse and would struggle with Oct 26 and definitely can't do Nov 16th.

Youngest offspring was violently sick last night all over the couch. In all the nooks and crannies. Sigh.

Good luck Spiffy, you will be fab!

Urgh, golden. Hope you got all the bits and there was no more vomit. I'd take pretty much anything over dealing with vomit sympathetic puker

First day went well. Got out of writing that paper tonight but have to write 5 others and have about fifty million other things to do. On the plus side the new boss is impressed with my gossip skills, v important in the new job apparently, although now it counts as networking and information gathering... grin

Indith Sun 29-Sep-13 10:53:48

Oh dear hope all feeling better golden.

How is the job Spiggy?

Survived week one of nights. Just one more to go!

Can't believe September is almost over.

I am late. Tested negative. But still late.

No reason to be at all. Am assuming the week of exclusive feeding I did this month when the boy was poorly is what has done it.

I'd better bloody not be. That is not a discussion I want to have with dh though it would give me the chance to use the girl name I have left over.

Dh and I both knackered and grumpy and snapping at each other. Found out yesterday too that he hasn't even got an interview for a job he applied for. He found out on Wednesday but we've been like ships in the night and he hadn't told me. Such a shame, he was really, really excited about the job and it would have suited him down to the ground. He had all the experience, all the desirables, I don't get why he wouldn't even get an interview. My best guess is either that he has made a mistake somewhere with his CV or covering letter and he needs to work on improving that or that they had an internal lined up and were just advertising because they have to. In which case it is shit and not interviewing perfectly good candidates is probably illegal. They claim not to give feedback but he is going to ring next week anyway.

Oh Fuck Indith. could the night shifts have mucked things up with your cycle? sending non baby vibes your way. Hope you also manage to find some time for everything. You've got so much going on but it will all be worth it in the end.

First week in new job seemed to go ok. Don't think I fucked anything up although it is starting to sink in that I am in charge of a fairly well known government helpline and responsible for its performance. What blithering idiot decided that was a good plan?!

Indith Sun 29-Sep-13 15:11:55

I honestly don't know how I would be if I am. must be the excessive feeding knocked it off. was due before starting the nights. dh is not allowed to procrastinate anylonger, he WILL be castrated.

Find an upduffed friend and get them to provide you with a positive test. Show to dh. After he recovers consciousness tell him he can go to the docs and have it done with anaesthetic or you'll do it yourself with a couple of house bricks grin

Indith Sun 29-Sep-13 15:45:42


juneybean Mon 30-Sep-13 14:07:14

Any one fancy Slug & Lettuce on Wednesday AM?

Can't, I'm in London sad.

But I am going to be free alternative Mondays as my flexible working been agreed. Full time hours but doing a 9 day fortnight. Dh doing the same so one of us is always off on a Monday. Woo!

goldenretriever Tue 01-Oct-13 13:46:24

Indith, is because you didn't want to be the fat or divorced one in your cohort?! Only joking, am sure it is stress/bfing. You know where I am if you want a chat. Well done on surviving night shift so far, also!

Survived zorbing at week end, but arms are killing from clinging on for dear life...

Indith Tue 01-Oct-13 14:31:43

Zorbing does now in any way sound fun.

Well pregnant would perhaps be better than fat or divorced. However pregnancy will lead to fatness. Becoming not pregnant if I am would likely lead to divorce.

Still no sign of period. Fecking thing.

We've lost one of our cohort sad. She decided it isn't for her. Bloody tough this course. I was talking to a second year the other day, she thinks we on the new curriculum have it tougher than they did because we are on placement for so long we don't get the vital boost that being back in uni gives you between placements. Just need to get to the 28th and we are back in.

I was in the library yesterday (not on shift and there were results to pick up) and there were little groups all over discussing the first midwifery presentations you have to do. It feels like blooming ages ago we were doing them. Excited yet golden?

Golden, SPB if you are lurking we need another local night of takeaway and alcohol grin.

Are we any further with a November night out? We need to get out...

Someone clearly read my Facebook status. My only member of staff was waiting for me with a hot chocolate. We now have beer and chips. Yum.

goldenretriever Fri 04-Oct-13 13:51:46

Spiffy, now you are higher up, perhaps you can force people to bring you in wine, chocolate, crisps and things on a regular basis?!

Am good for any date in November, bar Saturday 16th.

Indith, instead of Autumnwatch, this read is a bit like Periodwatch!!! Only joking, there is nothing like realising how much you don't want another baby than the slightest prospect of having one. Hadn't thought that one person might be all three: fat, pregnant and divorced, but none of those, of course, will be your good self, I'm sure. Of course, up for local takeaway evening. OH away for night of Sat 26th, so mine would be free that evening or can do most nights apart from that night at other people's houses. Hope night shifts
arent making you feel too horrid.

Indith Sun 06-Oct-13 21:08:48

still nothing. not tested for a few days. will get more sticks! finished nights. golden will sort something when awake. have not slept much today, want to go to bed but have very hot poorly baby on me. wonder if he has a water infection, keeps thrashing grabbing at his bits saying poo while crying.

Indith Mon 07-Oct-13 19:42:34

Ds1 lost his first tooth! He bounced around all excited telling me how a boy in his class got £3 for a tooth at the weekend! £3? Is that really the going rate? I think ds1 might be a bit disappointed in the morning.

juneybean Mon 07-Oct-13 20:47:43

No, M has been telling me she'll be getting 15p when her first tooth comes out and she's very excited about it!

juneybean Tue 08-Oct-13 19:45:18

Ughhh Fertility Friends is the most irritating forum ever!

Indith Wed 09-Oct-13 08:50:37

Do they sprinkle baby dust everywhere and call each other hun?

How many more pregnancy tests is it going to take to either convince myself I'm not or to make my period start?

juneybean Wed 09-Oct-13 10:48:13

Wear a lovely white dress today!

Well I had posted asking for info about a specific clinic in the Single Women area because I wanted to know specifically about single women who had been there and they moved my post to the local area so now I'll get couples replying who probably got it on the NHS!

I love mumsnet, no one moves my post unless I ask!

juneybean Wed 09-Oct-13 10:48:49

And yes too many tickers!!!

5 minutes since my last fart ~~~~~~~~~

goldenretriever Thu 10-Oct-13 23:13:53

Fertility friends? Shudder.

Indith, I have given it some thought and perhaps you could go rollerskating with three dalmatians on a leash whilst listening to 'It's my life' on a walkman. Wearing shorts. And your body would be fooled. I am now off to solve the country's economic problems and drink cider.

Indith Fri 11-Oct-13 09:53:59

Do you have a dalmation I can borrow?

And some roller skates.

And shorts.

And a walkman actually.

goldenretriever Fri 11-Oct-13 13:01:55

Bien sur, that is how I normally spend my week ends.

Any further forward on November night out??

Indith Fri 11-Oct-13 13:13:33

I confess I don't have the heart to plan until I know I can drink! Though I keep testing negative not that I have been doing multiple tests or anything

Ok. Dates.


Hands up folks!

Indith Fri 11-Oct-13 13:25:45

I realise that makes e sound like my one aim os to get pissed. But I have only just mostly stopped bed sharing. I want a drink! But I'm not yet until I know for sure that I'm not incubating again.

Can't leave A in the evenings yet.

Even if I thought J could do a double bedtime alone, A has decided after a 2 month hiatus from top-ups that he's no longer interested in bottles, or formula in a cup either, so I may be stuck every night with a reverse cycling limpet when I go back to work in Nov.

Indoth, I have some pre-baby white linen skirts/trousers which might fit you... ;). More seriously, I skipped my period during my A level exams. It showed up the day after my last exam, so may be post placement?!

Indith Fri 11-Oct-13 16:38:16

grin That's just typical. You will be missed Leggy.

Course we could always start early and do a cocktail afternoon and early dinner!

Need to check with dh over days. Will do that tonight.

Still nothing Indith? I could send you over some erratic bleeding if you'd like Fecking coil

Celebrating today. Got sent to see the big boss. We had a plan that he had to approve. When we asked he said no. And wanted us to do something that we really didn't want to do. So I was sent to negotiate with the general expectation that we'd lose because he is after all in charge and can tell us what to do and it is very hard to persuade him to change his mind. I persuaded him to go with our original plan. Everyone is shock shock shock and I amgrin. God, I hope this works.

Indith Fri 11-Oct-13 19:36:45

Well done Spiggy!

Nope. Still nothing. I have been reduced to symptom spotting, except of course they could all be signs of either! Actually at what should have been day 14 I was acting like I was ovulating so maybe I just skipped it completely and the next one will turn up on time so to speak.

Mmm cocktail ...

I can do all of them. My birthday is the 22nd though....

Oh if we had afternoon cocktails we might actually be able to sit down in ebony!

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juneybean Sat 12-Oct-13 11:23:27

I'll just get that deleted and start again........

I can do the 9th Nov! grin

goldenretriever Sat 12-Oct-13 17:04:36

Scratches head... Anything bar November 16th for me. Having a pissed off rainy day today.

ArrowofApollo Sat 12-Oct-13 17:43:02

I can do any of those days, I think.

goldenretriever Sun 13-Oct-13 12:08:50

Lumiere is on from November 14 - 17 so Durham will be heaving those days.

juneybean Sun 13-Oct-13 13:48:37


16th ?? Lumiere


Indith Mon 14-Oct-13 15:27:56


16th ?? Lumiere


So the 9th then? Good point about Lumiere golden, want to avoid that one! Shall we do an early thing or late thing? Usual curry or shall we go somewhere different? And where is the polar bear, the sticky one or any of the other bods who sometimes drop in?

Indith Mon 14-Oct-13 16:03:36

messages sent to SPB, sticky and isch/foxy/whatver she is calling herself at the moment and to Banjo and Fifi who both stuck their heads in a while back about meet ups. Who have I missed?

juneybean Mon 14-Oct-13 16:53:15

Frozen, Viking hmmm

goldenretriever Mon 14-Oct-13 17:31:08

Definitely up for November 9th. Would timidly suggest cocktails as an option.

Indith Mon 14-Oct-13 17:35:51

cocktails is mandatory and not open for negotiation. We drink cocktails. We eat somewhere. Toying with the idea of suggesting we treat ourselves to he Cellar Door? But on the other hand if we go for curry there is more money to spend on cocktails.

Hi all, thanks for the invite and I would have loved to but have a big (and expensive) "do" to go to on the 2nd and then a wedding at t'other end of the country which will need a few nights stay at the end of November and, with one eye on Christmas, I don't think I can really afford it sad

Definitely count me for the next one though

Indith Mon 14-Oct-13 18:00:35

Expensive do sounds fun though!

Shame we won't see you.

juneybean Mon 14-Oct-13 18:13:33

What's the cellar door?

Indith Mon 14-Oct-13 18:25:10

Place on Saddler Street hidden away www.thecellardoordurham.co.uk. Not been but have heard good things. Might be a bit fancy for us lot grin.

Indith Mon 14-Oct-13 18:26:39

They serve their lemon tart with gin and tonic ice cream..........<<drools>>

<dribbles at cellar door>

But happy with curry as well easily pleased cocktails mandatory though. grin

Seriously, somebody decide and tell me when and where to turn up. My brain is fucked from having to make proper serious decisions all day and being all responsible. I long for the simplicity of being told what to do. My brain actually hurts <pathetic wimper>

juneybean Mon 14-Oct-13 19:30:45

Let's go early? Like late afternoon for cocktails and early dinner ...somewhere.

Pleeeeease say we can go to ebony for cocktails. The slug was y'know nice but the cocktails weren't a patch on ebony.

Indith Mon 14-Oct-13 20:40:56

fine by me! going un afternoon we can avoid crowds, ended up at slug last time as ebony so rammed.

juneybean Mon 14-Oct-13 21:33:56

Okay, The Capital or The Cellar Door (or any other suggestions?)

Yes yes to Ebony!

juneybean Mon 14-Oct-13 21:35:29

Capital opens at 6pm

Cellar Door open all day

BanjoPlayingTiger Mon 14-Oct-13 23:27:52

Hello! Am answering my summons :D

Unfortunately I don't think I can do an expensive night out just at the mo. sad

I shall attempt to remember to post in here more often so I can meet some of you for coffee etc at some point!

Have a great one!

BanjoPlayingTiger Mon 14-Oct-13 23:28:19

Bother, I meant grin not :D

juneybean Mon 14-Oct-13 23:33:41

Ooo talking of coffee, any one fancy a meet next week, preferably morning on Monday, Wednesday or Friday?

BanjoPlayingTiger Mon 14-Oct-13 23:36:41

I would be up for that, though I will possibly have a 13 yo dd around with me. (She's on half term)

WannabeFayeMouse Tue 15-Oct-13 11:42:00

Hello! This is SLF with a silly name (I just got fed up with SLF for a bit). I found you all! Thanks Indith smile

I would love to come, have to say the cheaper the better for me atm - we're heading off abroad again next year and it's all a bit expensive. Perhaps Banjo and I could bring our own crisps and pop and wave through the window... <don't worry it's not that bad!>

BTW if you hear of anyone wanting to rent in Durham, tell them about me! We will be renting our house out for the duration.

Indith Tue 15-Oct-13 12:02:57

Banjo I'm sure your dd would be welcome for cake :-). At least she won't be racing around the place causing merry mayhem. Not that our small children ever do that while we pretend not to have anything to do with them. Never. I rather like teen girls, they tend to be pretty fabulous.

Sadly I'm back in uni half term week sad

For night out, since price seems to be an issue lets avoid cellar door! Curry then?

Other ideas?

Personal rundown. Ask tends to disappoint and will be overrun with small children for an early dinner. La Tasca is just not really proper. Tis fairly cheap and cheerful though I guess. Nandos, Chiquitos etc just no. Not on your Nelly for a night out! Pizza Express might soak up some of the cocktails with dough balls but we will run into many small children again.

I think Zen is supposed to be pretty good and not too expensive actually. Worth a thought? Open from 12 noon too. a Little further to stumble form Ebony but not too far, nothing is in Durham.

Indith Tue 15-Oct-13 12:07:23

SLF/Wannabe tell us more about the move abroad, have seen bits and bobs on FB. Sounds exciting! How long are you going for?

House rental when are you going? families coming over to Durham from abroad for short term for a masters etc often like to rent a nice family home they can easily get to uni from.

Indith Tue 15-Oct-13 12:33:31

Oh and my last piss stick was a duff one, no blinking lines anywhere even in the control box angry.

O, I think I could come for afternoon cocktail at least! On exact timings are decided I'll figure out whether dinner is early enough for me.

Indith, I have a bunch of the super cheap sticks left from when TTC if you want them for daily reassurance? ;)

Indith Tue 15-Oct-13 13:31:07

I'll swap you for my latest pair of outgrown dungarees grin

juneybean Tue 15-Oct-13 16:02:13

Ohh our half term is 28th.

I do love a curry frankly.

Indith Tue 15-Oct-13 16:14:08

Oops that's me getting confused with which week is which! I heard Banjo mention half term and jumped a week ahead.

Next week I am working Tues, Wed, Thurs and then either Mon or Fri, don't know yet. So could possibly have cake if I happen to be off on the right day.

WannabeFayeMouse Tue 15-Oct-13 17:45:31

Foodwise I am incredibly easy to please smile I love curry, I went to Zen once about 5 years ago and it was very nice then. Things that I don't have to cook and/or wash up are marvellous, frankly!

We're off January, away for the next two terms. Shame it's not a whole year from the point of view of ease of letting, but hopefully it will be useful for someone. Exciting for us though, I'm really looking forward to being back in Germany smile

You've sounded incredibly busy lately Spiffy, in a wonderwoman sort of a way! I've been crap at Goodreads Juney it's like one internet thing too far (ha and MN too apparently!) but thanks very much for adding me, I lurk every so often for suggestions.

Are you TTC Indith (or just POASing recreationally?!) Sounds like lots to chat about in whatever hostelry we pick smile

WannabeFayeMouse Tue 15-Oct-13 17:48:24

actually I could mention here, I just put up on ebay DD2's car seat - it's an isofix one, Indy Jane racing style. I'm not looking to get lots for it, just want it out the way tbh. Is anyone looking for a car seat? It's group 2 and 3, adjustable back, pet free smoke free home etc.

Indith Tue 15-Oct-13 17:55:47

TTC? go wash your mouth out shock

I'm just late. keep weeing on sticks just in case it magically changes from negative to positive at some point.

where in Germany? dh and I keep plotting holidays there at some point when I qualify and we have money. love Munich. good cake in Munich.

WannabeFayeMouse Tue 15-Oct-13 18:58:59

bit further east, over in the Black Forest. Also good cake smile

So it is purely recreational then wink Would be a lot to cope with, with the course and everything. But you do have very gorgeous babies...

WannabeFayeMouse Tue 15-Oct-13 18:59:35

west. I'm lost. I'm never going to make it there am I? confused

Indith Tue 15-Oct-13 19:47:53

cake and alcoholic apples. good combo. you'll end up with visitors you're not careful grin

juneybean Tue 15-Oct-13 19:59:40

This is terribly last minute but my work day got changed tomorrow and I have an unexpected morning off work, any one around?

VikingLady Wed 16-Oct-13 08:15:39

Too broke for the night out, which is unfortunate as DD is finally happy(ish) to settle for DH. Am free this morning though Juney!

BanjoPlayingTiger Wed 16-Oct-13 08:37:12

I may be free this morning, but since we got home last night at gone midnight from picking up our dd from school it rather depends on when she surfaces. It would seem a bit mean to bugger off and let her wake up to an empty house on her first morning home grin

Sorry for confusing people re: half term. My kids are at different schools on opposite sides of the country so my dd has a different half term to the schools round here. confused

We've holidayed in Germany a few times, but have never been to the Black Forest or Munich as a family. We love the old east as it is significantly cheaper than the old west still and some of it is just fabulous!

juneybean Wed 16-Oct-13 21:24:10

Ack we'll aim for next week?

I'm busy planning my little old life this month and keep coming across stumbling blocks! Why is nothing simple?! <smacks ofsted>

Indith Thu 17-Oct-13 18:40:14


nothing like the occasional 53 day cycle to keep you on your toes.

Ah, hurray for Aunt Flo!

goldenretriever Fri 18-Oct-13 06:52:20

And relax....

I would go anywhere for food as will eat anything (not totally proud of this fact), though ideally not too expensive.

Yay! Cocktails definitely on the menu!

Indith Fri 18-Oct-13 13:42:25

ok lets stick at curry then. I'm on long shift, someone book the capital for however many of us there are plus a spare space for when it opens so we can have early dinner. meet for cocktails 5 2 hours before grin

juneybean Fri 18-Oct-13 13:50:33

I'm on it!

ArrowofApollo Fri 18-Oct-13 17:47:49

Curry is good for me. Have we decided on a date?

juneybean Fri 18-Oct-13 18:53:54

I hope so since I've booked it for the 9th!

Indith Sat 19-Oct-13 08:35:47


Yay! Thanks for the organising juney smile

goldenretriever Sat 19-Oct-13 11:36:24

Wah hey! Even better, the football has been moved to the Sunday, so child care not a problem (the pain in thearse)

Does mean we get left with the children and a hangover the next day though golden...

Indith Sat 19-Oct-13 15:19:05

Duvet and DVD day grin

goldenretriever Sat 19-Oct-13 19:30:30

Hmmm... was probably thinking short term gratificationonly I fear. OHs Mother bought us a mattrmattress protector. For no reason. Bizarre.

ArrowofApollo Sun 20-Oct-13 07:29:06

That's great, now to break the news to DH.
DD's sleep is worse than ever.
we don't get much of an evening together and sex is pretty much off the menu thanks to the last coitus interrupted.
Bloody good job she is so cute or I would have sold her on eBay by now hmm
On the plus side, she is talking much more than DS did at her age (2.4). And she sings Twinkle Twinkle, Row You Boat, the Thomas theme tune and Faith of the Heart(theme from Star Trek Enterprise).

SPBisResisting Sun 20-Oct-13 07:34:05

Hi everyone, Indith thanks for the message. I think I can make the 9th, will just need to check with DH that we've got nothing else on smile
Woo hoo to cocktails and curry.

ArrowofApollo Sun 20-Oct-13 16:26:57

FFS I've only gone and double booked myself. I thought the BFN AGN was the weekend after but it is the 9th, and since I have agreed to drive everyone, I can't very well pull out.

Sorry sad

Indith Sun 20-Oct-13 16:30:22

sad. But you'll be having fun I hope smile

So. 9th November. An afternoon of cocktails (and cake? Can we start early enough for afternoonsies?).

Poss Leggy

Anyone else?

juneybean Sun 20-Oct-13 16:32:37

Eeep I booked for 6 thinking there was 5 of us! God knows who I missed off!

It's booked for 6pm btw grin what time are we meeting for cocktails, have a child's birthday party early afternoon so may be late for cocktails!

Indith Sun 20-Oct-13 16:36:32

Ah don't worry Juney, tis still a little bit off so we can call them to update with final numbers. I'm sure you can catch up with the cocktails! I really do feel like there should be somewhere that does good cake and cocktails...........

juneybean Sun 20-Oct-13 16:38:38

What's wrong with Slug & Lettuce's cocktails, they're buy one get one free!? And the cheesecake was quite nice!

Bogof was good but I have real hankering for the creme caramel cocktail from ebony <dribbles>.

We are having a whole 24 hours away from the children soon. The first time in nearly 7 years. Have booked a posh hotel and everything.

So having done that does anyone want to place a bet on which child will come down with something horribly contagious which means we can't go?

juneybean Sun 20-Oct-13 17:14:49

Ooo I'm having a look at the drinks menu now!

Ohh fingers crossed all are healthy spiggy

I've got to do a first aid course next weekend, hate performing in front of strangers like that, argh

Indith Sun 20-Oct-13 19:34:30

Ebony cocktails definitely better.

They also do afternoon tea..........

I shall aim for cocktails and skip dinner. Just need to convince J ha can handle both kids for a couple of hours on his own...! ;)

Spiggy, my bet is on T... grin

juneybean Sun 20-Oct-13 22:52:08

I've been out practicing tonight, had a cocktail grin bit tipsy!

Indith Fri 25-Oct-13 09:43:43

I may need to do some practicing tonight. Do you think if I have a few g&ts every night between now and the 9th I'll build up some resistance again? Otherwise I fear I will be under the table at the first cocktail. Cheap perhaps but not nearly as much fun.

I think it is essential Indith grin

TripTuckerIsMineYouVulcanBitch Sat 26-Oct-13 18:20:00

(It's Arrow btw. Fancied another name change.)
I need to come up to Durham at some point, it seems like ages since I've seen you all. Still a bit gutted about double booking myself!
Will try and arrange something in the next couple of weeks.

Indith Sun 27-Oct-13 14:50:14

Oh dear lord dd has decided to write her Christmas list today. She would like:

theltip pens
a ryl alith cat
toy letherbac turtl
ryl alith pup

Well she ain't getting a real alive cat or pup, anyone know where I can get a toy leather back turtle? Felt tip pens I can do!

WannabeFayeMouse Sun 27-Oct-13 16:27:01

aaaaaaah the school are doing their christmas thing that afternoon sad sad

Indith Sun 27-Oct-13 16:29:47

Noooooooooo! How can they be doing their christmas thing on november 9th? What time? Any chance of joining after?

Stupidhead Tue 29-Oct-13 05:44:19

Sorry to barge in but I want to play! I'm in Northumberland smile

Indith Tue 29-Oct-13 06:40:59

pull up a chair AMD grab a cocktail smile

Indith Tue 29-Oct-13 06:41:17

and. I hate my phone.

Stupidhead Tue 29-Oct-13 06:58:43

My phone types what it want too, I think it's possessed.

Cocktails, did someone say cocktails? grin

Welcome stupid (that sounds nasty but you know what I mean) nice to have a newbie.

I'm currently enjoying nearly 3 hours of non stop mnetting thanks to east coast enabling free wifi to make up for the delays yesterday. I could do work but I have changed my voicemail, put on my out of office email bounce back to start THREE WHOLE DAYS OFF!!! Including 24 hours with dh and without children!!!! I may be a little exited grin plus I think I did my bit for work when I managed to get to London yesterday despite being dumped at Peterborough.

Indith Tue 29-Oct-13 17:49:48

sounds blissful spiggy.

you fancy cocktails stupid? we are off out to get fiddly in the afternoon of the 9th and soak it up with curry at 6.

Stupidhead Tue 29-Oct-13 17:51:11

I'd love to! Where abouts? I'll have to check my shifts but fingers crossed I could make it!

Indith Tue 29-Oct-13 18:08:22

in Durham. curry is booked for the capital on claypath. cocktails normally in ebony.

We're starting early so hopefully you'll be able to get down. I'm travelling from s Tyneside...

Stupidhead Tue 29-Oct-13 22:47:04

Argh! I'm working in the Saturday night sad big fat bum bums, I was hoping to make it too. Have another night soon!!!

juneybean Wed 30-Oct-13 14:59:44

Rawr been terribly quiet as have been masquerading under my other username which I will tell you all about when I see you!

Who is actually coming on the 9th? As I will ring them later this week to confirm numbers grin

What time are cocktails?

Indith Wed 30-Oct-13 19:17:16

Me me me me me I'm coming!

What time shall we start? Table booked for 6 so........how long do we need to get sloshed first?

Stupid shame you can't make it, we'll just have to organise another one grin.

I've been selected to product test a new phone. It is supposed ot be waterproof and all that gubbins. I've just been reading about it and it sounds more intelligent than I am. Not sure how good my testing will be if I can't work out how to use half the features! I'll have ot bring it on the night out and you can all poke it.

goldenretriever Wed 30-Oct-13 20:57:06

I am coming on the 9th. So bastard sick of half term.

WannabeFayeMouse Fri 01-Nov-13 23:13:13

it's all going wrong for me, school thing, swimming lessons…. I will try to keep looking to see if you are going for coffee/cake during the day sometime before Christmas. If you are organising something could I be a pain and ask Indith or Spiggy or someone I know on FB to give me a wave and tell me to come and see what's happening over here? Life is moving a bit fast with all the preparations atm.

Hope you all have a lovely time, have an apple mojito for me someone smile

juneybean Sun 03-Nov-13 17:07:33

Aww no!

Is there just 4 of us so far then? grin

Indith Sun 03-Nov-13 20:30:50


For dinner I think.

Leggy for some drinks in the afternoon.

Leggy is Frozen around?

Golden and SPB we busing it?

If dinner is 6, anyone fancy afternoon tea in ebony from 3? I feel I may be slightly less drunk if I combine my cocktail drinking with cake.

I'll be there from 3 grin.

Wannabe, will give you a shout if we get ourselves organised.

We'll we went away for our 24.hours without children. We spent most of it going "this is strange. We have no children. We are out after dark. What are we supposed to be doing?" I think we have been institutionalised by the children. We couldn't cope with the freedom. grin

juneybean Mon 04-Nov-13 00:09:56

Whee I'll aim for 3, but might be nearer 4 as it's C's 2nd birthday party that day!