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PiratesKnittingTreasure Mon 20-Aug-12 20:13:31

Here we are smile.

PiratesKnittingTreasure Mon 20-Aug-12 20:16:44


I'm slightly concerned that the thread title draws a lot of attention to itself in Active Convos, but then I don't expect it's busy enough to stay in AC for long smile.

GWenlockMaryLacey Mon 20-Aug-12 20:18:34

It does draw attention grin. Aren't they those cones full of sweets that German children get on the first day of school? I was desperate to be German when I was little. I also wanted a satchel <sad>

PiratesKnittingTreasure Mon 20-Aug-12 20:27:40

grin yes they are!

disguisedeb Mon 20-Aug-12 23:39:10

Hello I found you!

PiratesKnittingTreasure Tue 21-Aug-12 09:01:53

Hi Deb, have fun at IKEA today - very envy!

Have a friend coming over for lunch and then packing to go to Brighton to see my parents. Dad is very ill sad but going to take him to Bluebell to cheer him up.

LG, have you been yet? The boys will love it smile.

Gigondas Tue 21-Aug-12 14:08:44

Oh sad - am sorry about your dad pirates and deb good luck about ikea trip but I can see how news on Ethan takes time to process.

In hospital so back to post later- great British bake off tonight lag

MySecretSelf Tue 21-Aug-12 16:17:49


I'm really sorry to hear about your dad Pirates sad

Good for E on his 4 mile walk Deb - I don't think DS could do that! He gets carted around by car far too much blush. I'm not surprised you're feeling sad about the DX either. I don't really know much about CP - what will it mean for him in the long term?

grin at jealousy on Deb's ikea trip Pirate. I'm never out of the place.

Starting to get in an absolutely panic about my report - just about finished lit review, but I don't think I've approached it the right way at all, nor have I included enough stuff. Gulp. Deep breaths.

Will pop back later..

PiratesKnittingTreasure Tue 21-Aug-12 19:44:59

Thanks guys - he's booked in for a 2 hr scan on his heart and lungs this Friday so hopefully we'll know more after that. Although the appt with the consultant to give him his results is not til the end of September hmm.

MSS, not surprised you're struggling with your report - I remain in awe at your ability to study, work and be a mum shock. Hope you're worrying about nothing though and it will all be over soon x

As for IKEA, despite living in the SE of England I have to travel over an hour to get to an IKEA shock!! However, planning permission has now been granted to open one at Jct 12 of the M4 - NCT girls' nights out will be sorted after that grin wink!

MySecretSelf Wed 22-Aug-12 11:11:01

That's a long wait for an appt Pirates - I hope you get some information on Friday.

Don't be in awe of me - I just do most things badly grin. One way or another I only have a week and a half left and then I'll need to think about how I can spend my weekends and evenings (as opposed to either studying properly or procrastinating while supposed to be studying).

I have an 80s party to look forward to once my report is complete - but no outfit as yet!!!! Any suggestions? Everything I've come across is too short or too sleeveless and fancy dress party or not, my thighs, knees and upper arms are best kept under wraps these days. DH keeps telling me he's thinking about his costume but he hasn't got further than that.

Gig - how's the hospital this week? Any food stories? I hope you're feeling ok.

Gigondas Thu 23-Aug-12 08:53:51

Yes hope you get info on Friday as the longer the wait the more you worry.

Deb how are you doing? Is room all prepared for German girl? And how are you feeling about Ethan (although agree that his walking sounds excellent)? It must be very hard as we naturally want to protect our kids.

Lag how you doing?

Am in hospital (and as you know was fine before I got herehmm) but when they started to put drugs in on Tuesday , I started a fever. Turns out was another infection on line so gave me drugs for that. Managed to control it well enough so could start chemo yesterday. But the downside was it was very late in day (so didn't finishe til late so I am shattered as little sleep) and whatever they do to me here put my blood levels from normal to anaemic in 24 hours which I hate as means feel yuck as need a transfusoon[angry

Sorry rant there but moral of story is keep out of hospital

The little gigs did come in to visit which was lovely yesterday - they then went to zoo. Baby gig was transfixed by the giraffes as looked like her sophie toy. They are quite funny as baby is definitely startin to get cross with her big sister - tried to pull her hair when big took her Sophie toy to play with.

Gigondas Thu 23-Aug-12 08:55:10

And secret I hope report is going on and Ikea browsing/80s costume hunting (surely Glenn medeiros could offer some inspirafio) not too distracting

Gigondas Thu 23-Aug-12 14:52:18

Bah angryangryangrysad - may be in a few more days while finish antibiotics ( times like this you would welcome the normal trip to boots or gp route). good news is after this they are removing my line which seems to be the problem (bloody irony with everything else and all the potential things I could get its the line that was meant to be convenient that is the issue).

Need your rl posts to distract please.

Oh and some ideas for girls christening (to which you are welcome if you are free - can pm details). It's on a moored boat in central London where will have service then buffet tea/party. So what do I need to do (obviously invites but food, drink ideas and ideas for entertaining kids. Also what type of cake- pirate what did you do for boys naming).

PiratesKnittingTreasure Thu 23-Aug-12 18:45:25

sad about hospital.

Re christening, will have think when back home but cake was made by a friend both times - gorgeous balloons 1st time and loads of chocolate cupcakes made into a train 2nd time, with DS2's name and date on it.

If £ no object I wld go for something pretty fancy for the girls - 2 sep cakes with their own names but tied together in some way (in fact 2 balloons would work well for that). I'm probably not the best person to ask though - I have the creativity of your average amoeba grin.

disguisedeb Thu 23-Aug-12 23:59:39

oH gIG WHAT A BUGGER,sorry had caps lock on but decided to leave it like that! I will do my best with rl posts when I can. Lovely cakes on here I like the butterfly sparkle and cheeky monkeys

All manic here, bed nearly built for Lisa, Ethan happy now he has new place for his toys, bit stressed that I haven't done any school work yet, Tristan getting worried about Lisa arrviing, and we've also put an offer in on our house grin I just sneaked that in there to see if you were concentrating.1st offer refused so we put another in late today and haven't heard back yet. Will let you know, haven't told anyone in RL yet

PiratesKnittingTreasure Fri 24-Aug-12 07:34:47

smile how exciting Deb, link??

LaGuerta Fri 24-Aug-12 18:11:41


Sorry for having been AWOL for a few days, especially Gig as you have been looking for distraction. So sorry that you have another infection. sad Physically are you over the worst of the infection yet? The Christening plans sound fantastic. So, do I infer from Pirate's comments that you are getting both girls "done" together? I've not been to many Christenings, and the ones I have been to were in churches and not on a boat so I doubt I have very many great ideas. Could the cake combine elements of their names? E.g. <crap idea alert> The Eiffel Tower with ivy growing up it?

Deb! A house! Do link. <begs>. I thought of a veggie meal for Nigel to cook: spicy black bean quesadillas. Everyone in our family likes them even though they are a bit spicy. My father even thought they had meat in them. I could probably photograph the recipe and post on FB if it sounds appealing to you? I'm not surprised that you are feeling sad about Ethan's diagnosis. <hug> Are you now permanent at the school? I have lost track of what happened with the other teacher.

Pirate - how was the scan, and how is your Dad? Did you get DS1 to paint with him? Hope you enjoyed the train.

Secret - not long now, keep going. My mum is still fixating on your curtain dilemma. She has called to tell me that you can get track that would bend, but I didn't have the heart to tell her you have decided to go for the straight pole. blush

I have finally come to the end of a very sociable 3 weeks or so. We have been to or had visits from: both sets of GPs; pirate, Canadian cousins x 10, uni mates and offspring x 10, night out at a pub quiz, plus various play dates with local friends. It has been lovely but I'm not a natural hostess (especially of small people).

As of tonight DH is on holiday for a fortnight grin. He has been working very hard all week trying to get stuff done but he is still going to have loose ends to tie up this weekend I think. Anyone want to lay bets on howard days before he gets manflu? No plans to get away. I can't find enough of a bargain. Plus the idea of packing makes me shudder.

PiratesKnittingTreasure Fri 24-Aug-12 19:09:20

No painting/drawing LAG sad. It was a bit flat all round tbh - both parents v depressed and quiet, not much help with the kids so I was run ragged, ready bed wouldn't inflate so I ended up with DS1 kicking me all night long. It was not a successful trip sad.

However, I feel this is going to be what visiting my parents is like for a while now, certainly until they get a diagnosis, so I will just have to suck it up.

Yay to a staycation smile and thanks for a lovely lunch. It was so sweet to see how well the boys played together smile.

PiratesKnittingTreasure Fri 24-Aug-12 19:10:09

Oh and sorry about not texting re: pub quiz, the bed nightmare meant the boys didn't get to be til 8.30pm hmm. Did you win? grin

Gigondas Fri 24-Aug-12 19:38:04

Oh pirates that is rubbish.
But yay for stay cation lag and I think man flu will be here before Sunday.

Am stuck in here til Tuesday as have 2 unidentified bugs so want to keep giving me Iv antibiotics/checking. I don't feel unwell and no other signs so bloody sods law. I have spent 3 nights with kids in last 4 weeks....

But loving cakes ideas and mulling them all over- two cakes is a very good plan as hadnt thought of that. And If here til Tuesday will have time to plan.

The only upside is after tomorrow morning I will be allowed out for little trips between meds so can go out to eat , shop or even home (might be a stretch).

MySecretSelf Fri 24-Aug-12 19:38:17

Aw, that's lovely of your mum LaG! I still haven't decided what to do. My biggest problem really is that if I don't do the straight across option I can only really have bendy track or a pole with rings (of which I have a horrible one now), which means I need pencil pleat curtains and at a nearly 3m pole that's £££££££. The choice for reasonably priced ready made at that width is limited and dull.

DS is clambering over me so got to go for now!

disguisedeb Fri 24-Aug-12 23:43:02

just a quickie to say we've made an offer on the house we're renting, if we can get it cheap enough it releases money to do something else with.Haven't heard anything today so it wasn't a definite no.

PiratesKnittingTreasure Sat 25-Aug-12 08:04:22

Good luck Deb!

disguisedeb Sun 26-Aug-12 23:07:57

Lisa has arrived and is very nice, we were all nervous before, but Ethan broke the ice getting her to play instruments in his show!! Overnight I have become a Mum of 4 (for 10 months) shock

Gigondas Mon 27-Aug-12 08:43:04

That's great news that she seems to be joining the family band. Fingers crossed about house.

Still in hospital but hoping to go home for a visit today .

MySecretSelf Mon 27-Aug-12 09:02:09

Sorry to hear that you're still in hospital Gig, and also that I've not been around with any distracting inane posts! Busy writing my report - will hopefully finish it today though still have about 3,000 words to do. Actually, I feel like I've had 3,000 words to do forever, despite writing loads over the weekend hmm. I'm really needing to pad it out, when normally my problem is cutting things to fit the word count, so I'm a bit nervous that it's nowhere near good enough.

On the curtains dilemma (did you ask for mindless distracting posts Gig grin), I have now seen plain red curtains at very reasonable price that I could put on the existing pole. Red would go fine, but it's a bit dull. So now do I buy those curtains at <£100, get some curtains made at >£200-300 or go with the straight across option to box in the box/bay window with these curtains I like (but will then have to find blinds too - I could get away without blinds with heavy lined pencil pleat curtains I think). Decisions, decisions.

Glad to hear that Lisa has settled in well Deb. Any news on the house yet? How are the veggie ideas coming along? We're prolific carnivores so not much help on that front, but I did think oven-baked risotto or veggie tarts made with puff pastry and selection of veg.

Any manful LaG? Your few weeks at home sounds fun!

Pirate - sorry about the trip to your parents. Big hugs.

Right, it's 9am - I must make a start!

disguisedeb Mon 27-Aug-12 09:43:03

oh gig, still in hospital, what a bore.Hope you get home for a visit today.

Thanks for veggie ideas, Nigel did home made pizzas last night, I'm making veggie toad in the hole today Linda Mac sausages on offer at tesco!

Red curtains could be jazzed up with something else maybe, I'll have a think about it, maybe fabric that you really like with a pattern, eg. trains or something, cut out around shapes, hem and sew onto red curtains, or gold braid so they look like theatre curtains, I've seen the videos of singing, I think your ds is quite a performer

MySecretSelf Mon 27-Aug-12 10:10:50

grin at DS's singing performances. He does like to sing! Mind you, there are only so many renditions of the Thomas the Tank engine song you can take.

That's a good idea re: trying to jazz up the curtains - the room will have a bit of a pirate theme, so plenty of options. I'm now thinking that being able to sew and make curtains is a useful skill to have. I'm sure DH's mum uses a reasonable dressmaker etc for alterations and I think she might do curtains as well. I might investigate to see how much it would actually cost to get some curtains made locally if I bought the fabric.

LaGuerta Mon 27-Aug-12 19:31:41

I am contemplating whether to buy a cheap sewing machine for my various soft furnishing challenges. Until last week, I hadn't sewed anything since doing textiles as a 13 year old. Skills and knowledge are very limited, but having had to hand sew a roman soldier's outfit last Christmas, I can see the merits of having a machine on standby.

DS1 will be getting plain red curtains in his room in a few weeks which isn't much help grin

Glad Lisa is settling in. Some female company for you Deb!

Did you get home today Gig?

No manflu yet. He is perking up after a knackered and dopey Saturday bless him.

Pirate, sorry that your trip to your parents wasn't very happy for anyone. I must be a real worry for you.

Gigondas Mon 27-Aug-12 19:51:22

That is exactly the kind of chat I need secret but red sounds a plan.

I think a sewing machine is a good investment if you are doing this much. I had one for years (was 16th birthday present) and made lots of bits . I know John Lewis do demos as they have all sorts (it is something of an obsession of my mothers).

Trip home was lovely - very normal (play, made dinner, bath) which was good as also I was happy as felt fit (as indeed I am except for what "charts" say).

Deb missed veggie recipe call- I have a fair few from when I was a veggie including a brilliant book that is about doing 2 in 1 recipes that I lived off for years. Basically you make something like a mushroom sauce and it is used for say pasta then something else. Also I remember none of recipes took long as I used to make them when came jn from work. Would this be useful?

disguisedeb Mon 27-Aug-12 23:08:47

So pleased you made it home for normal routine things Gig, must make you feel better too. Thanks for the veggie ideas, I made toad in the hole today with veggie sausages and she ate it all .She said that all her family is veggie so they don't usually eat meat substitute type things, must be me being a meat eater I just feel that she's missing out !!

LaG, I got a sewing machine when Stefan was a baby and learned how to make basic curtains but that's as far as I got with it. IF I had more time I would use it more.

Pirate , I was sorry to hear about your visit home, can't be easy. I didn't realise that LaG, was such a worry to you as well wink Has your schueltute arrived? I still need to assemble everything in mine and buy some sweets.

Secretself, how's the report? Hopefully you're nearing the end and have found enough words to fill it out.Striped curtains could work for a pirate theme and be neutral enough when the theme changes.

Beginning to panic now about school and the amount of stuff I need to do before Monday , gulp. I took Lisa to a car boot sale this morning, I know how to live the high life up here. I was buying for my under-resourced classroom and I did really well. I got 2 hobby horses for 2 of my girls who are always clip clopping around the playground, a big box of cars and my best bargain was a box of playmobil. It had a couple of old(1970's) playmobil boats and a broken helicopter on top and what I thought were a few people underneath. On further inspection I saw there were lots of people so I got him down from £10 to £8 for the lot and I've just counted up 40 people, big rescue helicopter which we fixed, racing car,horses, truck pulling trailer with 3 motorbikes on, dinghy and divers, and another big boat.Needless to say when I got it home and tipped it out on the kitchen floor vultures(in the shape of 3 boys) descended and Stefan and Tristan discovered 2 sets of soldiers on horseback which they needed to "keep for Ethan" and Ethan has taken a liking to the bikes and helicopter so my class aren't getting quite so many but the boats and divers etc will be great in the water tray.

Just for you Gig, inane playmobil chat smile

LaGuerta Tue 28-Aug-12 08:00:10

Doh - just checked back to see what I wrote. I'm a worry to me too.

Gig - glad you got back for a normal evening.

Deb - I see it's not just my Mum who equipped her classrooms out of her own pocket (state and private sector). Shopping for playmobil gave me horrible flashbacks to being dragged into my Mum's classroom at this time of year for days at a time I help her get ready for the new term. It's no wonder I decided against a teaching career!

LaGuerta Tue 28-Aug-12 08:06:43

Aww, DS1 has just seen a photo on FB of Secret's DS and is now very keen that we meet up in London at a museum with all the gang. I have tried to explain the geography involved, but he doesn't think travelling from Scotland should be a limiting factor. smile

Gigondas Tue 28-Aug-12 08:22:52

grin at lag ds.

That sounds like a real bargain deb even with the cut the boys took. Lucky kids to be in your classroom.

Have given into playmobil love (as pirate knows) so rather than a schultuete edie has a Carry around school as starting school pressie.

feeling ok but got worrying signs of a running nose (from mini gig) which would mean nothing in normal world but need to hide it in case that means have time on my sentence. I tell you never has taking a paracetamol and putting up with stuff looked more attractive wink

Now to decide how i kill time before being let out. Might meet a friend for coffee.

self I hardly dare ask but how is report? If it helps I will be stuck at home so can read it over if you like

ScottishBritishMNer Tue 28-Aug-12 21:05:53

grin LaG.

Thanks for the offer to read my report Gig. However, I am pleased to say that it is printing as I type grin grin grin Not convinced about how good it is, but hopefully it will pass (as I am completely out of time).

I now just have to write a year's worth of CPD and update my CV to present a development profile but that's easy (albeit time consuming). So glad it's nearly over!!!

In other news, plain red curtains it is. Must stop sweating the small stuff. We won't be in this house forever, so there's no point spending a fortune on curtains to fit my weird windows.

Right, back to the CPD. <waves at everyone else>

LaGuerta Wed 29-Aug-12 13:24:53

Did you get home last night Gig?

Ummm....not much to say. Really enjoying having DH at home. Just pottering around doing long neglected jobs. Even managed a run this morning.

It's just started hammering down and I need to pop out to get my haircut later on. It could be a short lived sleek blow dry.

Gigondas Wed 29-Aug-12 14:17:53

Yes eventually as had last drugs at 9. It is lovely to be home but some work needed on mini gig- she knows who I am (one fear) but a bit wary - I am for amusement mostly . Now I sympathise with any parents who work long hours or are away from kids.

Home days sounds Nice lag- its tipping down here so good luck with the haircut.

LaGuerta Wed 29-Aug-12 16:20:52

Glad you're home. Sorry to hear that mini gig is a bit uncertain of you. I sure she will warm up fairly quickly now you are at home.

I'm never great at hairdresser small talk but was a bit stumped for platitudes when she told me she and her husband had split at the start of the summer. It's only the third time she's cut my hair so it's not as though we know each other very well. confused

Gigondas Wed 29-Aug-12 20:25:13

Mini gig will be fine but has had a bad cold so that coupled with coming back from holiday and then me being in/out is a bit unsettling. Plus she is at an age where doesn't take much to unsettle her.

I am not sure what you say to that kind of small talk at any time - but does hair look nice? smile

PiratesKnittingTreasure Wed 29-Aug-12 23:35:17

LG, I do worry about you all the time grin.

Thanks for all your kind words - distance is not good at this time, esp as I start back to work on Monday but what can I do? sad

Re: the hairdresser, it never fails to amaze me the intensely personal nature of some stuff hairdressers have told me in the past, very strange!

Gig, so glad you're home and can enjoy some quality time with your girls at last. Only two more sessions to go smile.

Should be in bed so will catch up properly tomorrow smile.

disguisedeb Thu 30-Aug-12 00:10:26

Great that you're home Gig, I'm sure minigig will be fine soon

LaG, must be the day for haircuts, had mine cut too but this was all 5 of us for £20 in our kitchen!Been in school today and resisted taking in any of the boys , don't want them having traumatic memories like you wink I'm aching after moving every piece of furniture in my classroom, feels like my own room now though as the teacher is definitely gone now.

Pirate, you can't do anything about the distance you live away from your parents, just be there when they need you, within reason. It's just not great timing at this point of the holidays is it?Not like we have a job where you can make phone calls in the day to check up on them (((hugs)))

LaGuerta Thu 30-Aug-12 21:27:10

The haircut was just a trim: perfectly acceptable but not interesting. £20 for all 5 of you is some deal though Deb!

Please never ask your sons to mix poster paint or help to stable sugar paper to the walls of your classroom. They will be scarred for life [twitch].

A good day today. Ikea for some bits. Avoided falling out with DH (just) over our differing tastes in light fittings, then visited our good friends in SW London from uni. They are one of the nicest families I know. I always feel like a better person for having spent time with them.

LaGuerta Thu 30-Aug-12 21:27:55

Staple even

Gigondas Fri 31-Aug-12 14:06:51

Do you know I am oddly quite enjoying not having to fuss about haircuts wink

I share your pain about mother as teachers- I still cringe at having to be seen going in the car with a teacher to school each day.

PiratesKnittingTreasure Sun 02-Sep-12 11:50:25

Looks like Big Gig had fun at the rugby yesterday Gig smile!

We had a fab day at the Paralympics but are now all really tired and snappy with each other blush. Have managed to get DS1 into his school uniform this morning though (photos on FB) and he did look super-cute grin.

Have sooo much to get done today before I go back to work tomorrow - off to procrastinate for a bit longer wink.

disguisedeb Sun 02-Sep-12 20:53:17

Don't want to go back!!I want to be there on Wednesday morning for Ethan, boo hoo

Gigondas Mon 03-Sep-12 08:17:53

sad deb but hope goes ok today.

Big gig loved the rugby (and the ice cream). Sounds like boys had fun (dh loved. Ds2 comment about legoland pirate.

Enjoying last few days of holiday here- although must admit to lazy start today as although feeling more normal (can always tell as can manage a day without a nap), mini gig getting up at 4 wasn't so good.

When does ds1 start lag

And how was weekend away secret

Also is anyone else watching parades end?

Gigondas Mon 03-Sep-12 08:18:38

Oh pirate is it bad I hope that they would forget to attach the rope to prince Andrew when he abseiled Down the shard in London?blush

LaGuerta Mon 03-Sep-12 17:44:21

DS1 doesnt start till next Thursday. The other years at the school start this week, whilst the Reception teachers do home visits. Then they stagger the start with 10 a day per class over 3 days.

Gigondas Tue 04-Sep-12 07:48:30

Have you got your home visit date yet or are they still keeping you hanging on lag?

Big gig got her meet the teacher thing at school today. She is definitely way more excited about seeing her friends.

But most importantly lag it's bake off day grin

LaGuerta Tue 04-Sep-12 16:11:37

Yes grin I have just been nursing the happy thought that Dh will be at squash this evening and as long as I can pack boys off to bed in good time I can indulge in GBBO at 8pm.

Teacher visit is on Monday afternoon.

How did your DS get on today Pirate?

LaGuerta Tue 04-Sep-12 20:10:30

Not having much joy texting you Gig for GBBO. Will try again.

Gigondas Tue 04-Sep-12 20:36:10

Sorry ! Left phone While was eating

PiratesKnittingTreasure Tue 04-Sep-12 20:47:43

Get your priorities right Gig!!! grin wink

DS1 loved his first day at school, and was very excited about the thought of going back for Day 2 smile. Long may it continue!

Deb, his schultuete arrived - unfortunately not in time for his first day but we're going to give it to him tomorrow morning.

grin at Prince Andrew - I was so thinking the same thing grin (plus a list of other people who I'd like to push off the Shard, starting with Jeremy Hunt!).

Off to finish some chores - not liking being back at work at all sad.

Good luck for Ethan tomorrow!

disguisedeb Tue 04-Sep-12 23:47:30

Ethan is excited about tomorrow, his schultute is filled and I've just made Lisa one for her 1st day at 6th form smile I've decided to make them with my class tomorrow too, and at lunchtime I'll secretly put in a pencil , a biscuit and some sweets for them to take home on their 1st day.I'm glad that Tristan is still at the same school though otherwise he would seem very small to be getting the school bus, at least he has Tristan to look after him.

MySecretSelf Wed 05-Sep-12 15:00:28

Ooh, school talk - how exciting. Though I feel sort of left out grin I hope all your DC enjoy their first few days at school. Love your pics Pirate - I don't think I've seen any more.

Sorry, not been about much of late. Had a brilliant weekend away and having spent much of the last few weeks manically report writing I found out that I passed. My study days are done! but I was looking at some employment law courses today

My next project is finally to sort out DS's bedroom. We've gone from pirate to superhero now (there's a batman obsession going on). I finally decided just to go with the red curtains I found, but lo and behold - they're not in stock any more!!!! It's very annoying because they're actually wide enough, blackout and pencil pleat, but most importantly were a good shade of red (bedroom, bright iyswim rather than dark living room colours). Gah! Anyone seen any bright red or any feckin colour blackout pencil pleat curtains that come in 3m wide?

My other thought (I hope you're really in need of mind-numbingly boring posts today Gig [grin) is to actually get another pair of the luvverly star print curtains I already have here and pay someone to convert them to pencil pleat for me, and then hang two pairs of curtains on the rail. Is that a bit bonkers? Then I wouldn't have to do the wierdy straight curtains thing or have to buy blinds too.

I'mn at work and very grumpy because of onset of (early) very painful period pains so I'd best go. OVer the last couple of months my cycle has started to become a bit unreliable (I've always been scarily reliable on a 28 day cycle - you could set your watch by me) which I don't think is a good sign. Will come back later and catch up properly when I'm more cheery.

PiratesKnittingTreasure Wed 05-Sep-12 21:04:01

That sounds lovely Deb smile.

Sorry to hear about the painful periods Secret sad. Did you have any further thoughts on the blood tests I mentioned?

I'm knackered and not enjoying work at all sad, DS2 starts pre-school tomorrow, yikes!

TheScottishPlayer Thu 06-Sep-12 12:28:51

What, no-one wants to talk about my curtain saga anymore grin

Sorry you're not enjoying work Pirate sad. I have been thinking about blood tests so will maybe get around to making an appointment soon. It'd be nice to have an idea whether it's within the realms of possibility or not. Poor DS keeps telling me how it would be really nice if we could have a baby in our family too (all his little friends have younger siblings now) sad sad. It's really hard to answer him. I don't want to say (gently) that it's never going to happen in case it does, but I don't want to say anything to suggest we might in the future and get his hopes up and he might tell people

I hope everyone is enjoying school so far - LaG, is DS1 next week?

Gigondas Thu 06-Sep-12 20:30:57

Yes I am back and happy to discuss curtains- polka dots sound ok. I would be cautious about "themed" rooms
As if ds is anything like big gig he will go off whatever you choose before you have decorated.

Could your erratic cycles be cos you have been unwell and stressed- I know that mine could go to pot. But I do think tests a good idea as will rule out basic stuff. No advice about what to say ds - big gig never said anything when I was ttc so i didn't have that issue.

As far as I can tell big gig loved school as seemed very happy but uncommunicative .

We have added to playmobil land with a school (schultuete are apparently something you get in Czech republic so nanny understood when said it was an equivalent grin).

Another scan tomorrow so fingers crossed .

MySecretSelf Thu 06-Sep-12 22:18:36

Apologies for random selection of user names I'm populating the thread with.

I hope the scan goes ok tomorrow Gig - what time are you in?

I'd be surprised if illness/stress etc messing with my cycles. I've always been scarily regular. Every fourth friday - 1pm nurofen to stave off period pains. 1.10pm... Honestly, no joking about being able to set your watch by me grin

On bedrooms - I completely hear you re: 'themes'. He's begged for a batman theme and I've compromised on 'superhero'. His bedding etc will all be stars or stripes though. Any superhero/batman touches will be with cheap pictures etc. On the curtains, I've been canvassing opinion around the office today and the consensus is that although having two pairs of curtains up on the rail was a bit random it would probably work. So I think I'm going to go with that. I've actually sent back the luvverly star curtains I like and have seen some stripe curtains that are already pencil pleat - 2 pairs of them and I will be done.

God, I've got the dullest chat just now.

Much more interstingly - did anyone watch new Dallas last night? It's my new guilty pleasure grin.

MySecretSelf Thu 06-Sep-12 22:20:17

Ooh, I'm a bit keen on the playmobil school. I think more for me than DS though blush. I have thought about getting DS the school gym plus some of their athletes - a sort of playmobil olymics if you like. They missed a trick with the olympics I reckon!

Gigondas Fri 07-Sep-12 09:18:50

They had/ have a selection of athletes you can buy as I bought them for me big gig.

Who am I kidding - playmobil is for me and I think pirate feels the same grin

Scan at 2. Then should get some idea on Tuesday (along with kidney function test I did on Wednesday - I know my heart ok as lady told me who did test ). It's all standard to check am ok/and what chemo doing (as much to check that no other damage) but still makes me bit nervous. I am better than I was.

On unrelated topic, Big gig has developed a toilet fearhmm while I was "inside" last time , she went to loo where toilet was either blocked or one of those odd ones where flush comes up quite high . This made her hysterical (tears and shaking) - she keeps talking about it and has got periodically upset again whenever she needs to use the loo (ESP , sorry If tmi, needs to poo). Was really upset this Morning and has started to put off I think going to loo as scared. Any ideas on how to calm her - tried talking and reassuring already ?

Oh secret two tone/bed spread sounds good. And If changed that much (envy to be that regular) prov would go to Gp.

MySecretSelf Fri 07-Sep-12 10:03:35

Glad to know it's not just me re playmobil. Although DS's pirate ship and accessories leave me cold.

Poor Big Gig sad - no ideas unfortunately, hopefully you'll get more wisdom from the others.

I'm not surprised you get nervous at the scans! I'll be thinking of you this afternoon.

You're right re docs - I will make an appt.

Gigondas Fri 07-Sep-12 11:11:46

They have lovely toy Xmas market ...

MySecretSelf Fri 07-Sep-12 13:44:51

I saw that last year. Do you have it?

MySecretSelf Fri 07-Sep-12 16:34:56

How did you get on this afternoon Gig?

Gigondas Fri 07-Sep-12 18:57:31

Was fine - don't find out anything til next week.

I may have bought the Xmas market for me big gig this year wink

MySecretSelf Fri 07-Sep-12 19:24:33

I'm tempted...

Gigondas Sat 08-Sep-12 19:40:04

Go on you know you want to grin

MySecretSelf Sun 09-Sep-12 10:16:03


What's everyone been up to over the weekend? I'm still very excited about not having studying dominating my weekends. grin grin

Gigondas Sun 09-Sep-12 21:02:16

Went into town to Thames river festival yesterday and out for lunch today. Watching Paralympic closing ceremony now.

Feeling tired which I think with tests plus chemo next week is making me feel moe worried than usual .

PiratesKnittingTreasure Sun 09-Sep-12 21:10:18

I love the boys' Pirate ship grin blush! The gymnastic stuff is cool too - I'm a bit of a playmobil fan have to say smile. <makes mental note to check out Gig's new playmobil stuff this weekend>! grin

Hope all results good this week gig smile. As for toilet thing, could you take big Gig into the toilet to show her what happens at a time when she doesn't need to go? Maybe ask school about it too, they may have some ideas?

We went to a wedding this weekend - bit weird as we knew absolutely no one there blush. Was fun though - esp the father of the bride who kept on making jokes about the fact it was her 2nd wedding! shock

We also spent today tidying the garage - big yawn, but so badly needed doing and I'm so pleased we've done it. Can actually move in there now!

Have had ILs up looking after the kids - MIL being usual loony self. Getting stroppy cos we can't see them again for a while, despite the fact that FOUR of the weekends we can't make are because she's busy! The one weekend she's free, we're busy but she was intimating we could always change our plans hmm. After having this strop about not seeing the GC for a while she spent this afternoon reading the paper while FIL entertained them hmm.

Secret, you must be wondering how to fill your time?! grin As for your periods, envy at being that regular, but 2nd Gig that if they've changed I would go to the GP. Always worth getting these things checked out. Really feel for you about what to say to DS sad. Does changing the subject work or is that a cop out? blush

Right, need to relax and knit - sooooo tired blush

LaGuerta Mon 10-Sep-12 16:19:19

Your MIL antics sound familiar Pirate! How is work this week? Is it just post holiday blues (I always used to be terrible after a holiday) or are you deep down unhappy with the job? An I right in thinking that you finish at Christmas?

Which day do you get results Gig? Sorry you have had an anxious weekend. sad how is big Gig doing with her toilet issues? School ok today?

Secret - sorry you haven't had any luck YET ttc. sad I am sure Pirate and Gig's advice is sound, if you want to take things to the next step.

Deb - how is Ethan settling in?

DH back to work this morning after a two week staycation. We had a really lovely time pottering around with the odd day trip here and there. I always find it reassuring how well we all get on when work stresses are removed from the situation. That makes it sound as though we don't get on normally, which isn't the case, it is just that DH works very hard and is very tired (as am I) when he is here.

I am feeling a bit chewed up by the home visit from DS1's YR teacher this afternoon. She is very nice, but had talked to preschool on the phone where they raised some "issues". 1) his speech, which I had already mentioned 2) was his behaviour shock I didn't know I had a child with behaviour issues. There were 3, maybe 4 incidents at the start of last term where he had got too physical with other children and hadn't stopped when asked, so they took him out of the situation and then informed me about it at pick up time. They said that it wasn't malicious and wasn't even pushing, more just being in other children's faces. They said to me that it wasn't a big deal but they wanted me to know incase he mentioned it to me. After the first few weeks of term it seemed to stop. The teachers certainly didn't raise it with me. I was surprised that they had talked to his new teacher about it, and I feel a bit upset because I feel his card has been marked (which is a bit daft of me). Of course during the visit both boys were very lively/boisterous because they were excited, and this must have confirmed the preconceptions of the teacher and the TA. I also did a particularly bad job of responding to the teacher when she directly put it to me what preschool have said, as DS was sitting there listening, and I was surprised. I tried really hard not to be defensive, or to laugh it off, but I suspect I did both. Gahh! Now I've written it down I feel better about it actually, I know I'm over reacting. I am finding school starting over a week after everyone else is really dragging the build up out far too long.

MySecretSelf Mon 10-Sep-12 16:29:44

I'd feel exactly the same as you LaG! FWIW, the incident you described as 'being in other children's faces' sounds like completely normal behaviour. I'd really hate the idea of DS being labelled because of normal 4 year old behaviour.

Pirate - I do try to change the subject really with DS, I just really feel for him sad. I'm going to try and work up the courage to visit my crap GP surgery.

Sorry you're feeling down this week Gig - what day are you in for chemo? Sending virtual hugs from the miserable windswept and rainy North.

PiratesKnittingTreasure Mon 10-Sep-12 19:31:28

Gig, really sorry I didn't see your post last night - x-posted blush. Sorry you're feeling down, hope all the tests come back good and you have an 'up' week xxxx

LG, re: work, I think it's partly post-holiday blues and partly my manic new working hours. School hours make life so much more complicated and I need to take a step back and do something less stressful I think. I don't like my job (love the people I work with but not the work) and I think I've kind of 'clocked off' already unfortunately, even though I don't officially finish until February sad.

Sorry home visit was stressful - I do think you're probably worrying about nothing but I can see how the delayed start must be hard when everyone else is in there and getting on with things. Don't worry too much about DS1's card being marked - I think Reception teachers are a bit more aware than that of how much kids can change when they get to school. Maybe try and catch up with her in a couple of weeks and see how he's getting on?

Secret, it's so hard isn't it? I won't patronise you by telling you there's loads of advantages to having one child cos I know I wouldn't have appreciated that if I were in your situation. Is it financially viable for you to get an 'MOT' at a private clinic? An initial consultation would usually cost in the region of about £200 and wouldn't need to lead to any further treatment. It would probably give you a better picture of what's going on. I don't have much time for GPs tbh blush.

Right, I have panel papers to read. Yawn!

LaGuerta Mon 10-Sep-12 20:26:39

Thanks for the reassurance. She's an experienced teacher that everyone rates so I know that really she is unlikely to completely pre judge a child although I know enough about teachers to know that some pre judging does go on wink even if it's just over the names on a class list.

I can sympathise with mentally checking out of a job when you know it's not for ever. I have done that more than once myself blush.

Secret- I meant to sympathise re your DS wanting a sibling. That must be really hard to respond to and hard on you to know that this is what he is thinking.

Better go as I am meant to be sewing name tapes whilst dh cooks blush

PiratesKnittingTreasure Mon 10-Sep-12 20:54:02

We never judge LG! shock wink

LaGuerta Tue 11-Sep-12 07:34:54

Of course you don't

Gigondas Tue 11-Sep-12 14:39:55

Lag sorry that home visit was less than reassuring. It does sound like pre school making mountain out of molehill about behaviour (and none of it sounds any different from what boys in big gigs pre school- I know at least one of those was constantly being "reported" by over zealous ta for basically being 4). Did they say anything about how will help with his speech or not? Tbh that would bother me more.

Scans and tests good as can be (ie chemo seems to be working and I am well) which is massive relief. Just picc line now...

secret big hugs for you with worries about period. Big gig never asked (and I think there are times when would give mini gig to your ds) but have you looked in only children thread for advice as know it's not an uncommon issue as seen threads on it (just can't remember advice).

deb how is it going?

LaGuerta Tue 11-Sep-12 15:41:59

That must be be hugely encouraging Gig. Great news. smile

The teacher is going to pass the SALT's latest report on to the SENCO. The teacher having failed to get much dialogue going with DS thought that there wasn't much of a problem with the stammering. It tends to come and go which is typical of the condition. She did think though that DS had introduced DS2 as "Vivienne" grin which kind of proves a point about his speech not being clear. Ah well, actions speak louder than words, so we will have to wait and see how DS settles and how the teacher does too wink. BTW I hate the teacher bashing that goes on on MN and that's not how I am wanting to come over on this.

I saw a podiatrist this morning following a GP referral because my feet hurt in a variety of ways. He dismissed me as not having anything that he could help with, but did tell me to buy new shoes, so that's a bonus grin. Frustratingly he told me that I need to see a chiropodist regularly to get hard skin removed but this was obviously beyond his remit. I have a childhood friend who trained as a podiatrist and I know for a fact that she spent much of her time removing hard skin from old folks' feet! Ah well I might just make a private chiropody appointment for an easy life.

No other medical updates from me for today

MySecretSelf Tue 11-Sep-12 19:40:45

V quick post for the playmobil addicts - I sooooooooo want to buy the school for DS while it's half price at Argos. DS would be very put out if Santa left that instead of a Batcave though...

Gigondas Tue 11-Sep-12 19:44:39

Oohh new shoes- any thoughts on what? But foot pain is not great as its not like you can stay off them.

Yes good news with tests but have bit of a battered arm after new line went in (and had to strop to get it in today as was not booked in). But as pirate knows , mixed blessing as some of people on cancer support thread not had such good news as cancer has come back in other places- bastard disease. So am appreciating that my treatment working, hospital for all it's faults is so good and how nice (if scary) my dr is.

Are we on for gbbo chat? Pie week.. grin

Gigondas Tue 11-Sep-12 19:45:33

At least he wouldn't be tempted by playmobil princess wedding like big gig would -- but I really want the safari--

MySecretSelf Wed 12-Sep-12 16:03:27

Oh, I don't know... Safari looks good. but I still want the school

PiratesKnittingTreasure Wed 12-Sep-12 17:43:47

I wasn't sure how to take the emoticon-free post LG! blush

KWYM about teacher-bashing, but still good to have an outlet to vent if you're frustrated. Hope tomorrow goes well for him x

DS1 has already announced he thinks school is great but the 'work' is boring sad. I stand by what I say about them being far too young to start school sad.

grin at playmobil chat!

Hope you're doing ok gig smile.

MySecretSelf Wed 12-Sep-12 18:58:28

DS says he's glad we don't live in England because he likes nursery! I met someone a few weeks ago with a 3 yr old (Nov birthday) and they were saying what a shame it was he couldn't go to school this year as he was really ready for it?!?! He's 3!!! I have to admit I'm glad we've got another year here before I have to worry about school holidays.

Gigondas Wed 12-Sep-12 20:14:09

I am doing ok- chemo fine but bruising time putting line in which means am on late schedule doing chemo (basically if I start late that means start at same time eAch day so makes for a late night).

Am playmobil mad now (school for you secret).

Big gig liking school a lot (helps it is same as pre school and small class) but gets tired and did say to me why does have to stay til 3 .

Any news on curtains for us secret?

lag when is actual first day for ds1?

deb what happened with house offer - did I miss that? Hope all well but assume you are busy.

Gigondas Wed 12-Sep-12 20:15:15

And as lag knows pie week was good but some of pies a bit odd to say least.

MySecretSelf Wed 12-Sep-12 20:20:45

Curtain update for Gig - we have decided to buy two pairs of pencil pleat curtains to hang on existing curtain rail. So there will be 4 curtains hanging on the rail. A bit random, granted, but no need for expensive made to measure or having to remove existing rail to replace with straight across pole etc. New plan is much cheaper, no hassle and no need to get the drill out which we're rubbish at. grin

Gigondas Wed 12-Sep-12 20:42:46

Can you develop a new household decorating issue for us now curtaingate over? But glad resolved .

disguisedeb Wed 12-Sep-12 23:16:24

Quick hello from up here.

Gig so pleased all going Ok for you

LaG - judge, not us????

Update here - Ethan settled into school but is a bit lost at lunchtime on big playground and crying. Tristan then also upset that Ethan crying and played with him but different lunchtimes mean tears again when Tristan went in to eat.He appears to have teamed up with dinnerl ladies now so hopefully it won't be too long beofre this resolves itself. SALT review next week, even though he's only ever had assessment a year ago, what can they be reviewing. Also seen by salt at school and his problems are too complicated that she needs 2nd opinion of other speech therapist! Physio appt the week after.IEP being written at school Pirate because of diagnosis/disability (gulp) their words

Work fine but HARD!!! Long days , work to do when boys go to bed, so little of me to spread between 3 boys, Nigel and student Lisa.I feel guilty most of the itme.All my new starters settled ok , 1 boy has been very poorly(blood disorder, epilepsy, jaundiced) and he and his mum are coping very well with the separation and I've put him on a 3 day week to get him starting positively and not burning out.

2nd offer on house refused, waiting to make final offer

Big boys started scouts tonight

Lisa Ok but turns out she's left boyfriend in germany and she spends a long time on skyp to him.

excuses for typing errors, off to bed

disguisedeb Thu 13-Sep-12 16:29:01

Home early today doing planning so have time to post again!!just something to make you all laugh, I nearly sent home a letter to parents today saying "We have willies for most of the children but we still need more willies in bigger sizes" I meant to say wellies of course but it gave everyone in school a laugh. Just imagine if the letter had actually gone out to parents blush

Gigondas Thu 13-Sep-12 16:38:21

Sorry to hear been hard for ethan settling and that reassessment (and use of "d" word) all a bit unsettling but hope it brings the right kind of help.

I hardly dare moan about feeling bit frazzled as sounds frantic deb but I did grin about willies.

Am afraid too much time on hands meant some a few playmobil Xmas presents bought.
Oh and my lovely nurse has brought forward last chemo so I can be out before my 40th 21st birthday (would have been last day in and I will be over worst of chemo so can go to George Michael concert smile.

disguisedeb Thu 13-Sep-12 20:15:54

That's great Gig smile

MySecretSelf Fri 14-Sep-12 00:00:27

Quick post, apologies for ignoring other chat, but I'm going to visit GP tomo re: ttc, so Pirate and Gig - if you see this before the morning I'd really appreciate a reminder on the kinds of test I should be pushing for.

MySecretSelf Fri 14-Sep-12 00:01:49

Ps - envy at going to George Michael concert but grin you can go!

PiratesKnittingTreasure Fri 14-Sep-12 07:50:33

Quick post for Secret - FSH wld be the main I would think, testing your levels of follicle stimulating hormone. Day 21 LH testing would check your ovulation and then there's the newer AMH test which you may need to a fertility clinic for.

Good luck x

Gigondas Fri 14-Sep-12 09:28:19

Thyroid function and general bloods too but also ovulation check but the ones pirate mentioned too- also make sure you tell em cycle length as these are highly dependent on right day (waste of time as I was put on timing for 28 day cycle when cycle was 30 days by my gphmm)

LaGuerta Fri 14-Sep-12 12:04:16

Quick one from me. First day at school yesterday seemed to be a happy affair as far as I can tell. He seemed very keen to go back - pretty much ran in all the way.

Secret - hope you get a helpful response from your GP.

Gig - great news that you should make the GM concert.

Deb - what alot you've got on your plate at the moment. So sad about T and E crying at school together sad. Hope YOU are ok in the middle of everyone else's needs.

Gigondas Fri 14-Sep-12 12:06:23

That's good news he enjoyed it and seemed to want more grin lag.

I am out but not quite home (seeing counsellor) but feeling Ok which is good smile.

deb hoping you have a peaceful weekend.

MySecretSelf Fri 14-Sep-12 13:14:00

Quickie post to say thanks for advice re: GP. Saw a different GP than usual who was quite nice. I need to do the ovulation test on a specific day and DH will also have a test to ensure all is well there. If they both come back ok, we'll get referred to the fertility clinic for further tests - presumably the kind of tests you've all mention.

Anyway, at work so have to dash, will come back later and read and post properly.

Gigondas Fri 14-Sep-12 13:40:16

That's great that on testing route and were helpful about it (btw my friend who is 43 popped in to see me- is 18 weeks pregnant with "miracle " post ivf told
Couldn't happen naturally baby).

PiratesKnittingTreasure Fri 14-Sep-12 20:00:33

Right, back to reply properly! Secret, I was shock at that person you met who thought their 3 yr old was ready for school blush. DS2 is absolutely loving pre-school but is certainly not ready for f/t school, no way. He bloody well will be in 2 years though!! grin

Glad you had a good GP appt - would second what Gig said on cycle length. I had a 22 day cycle but was being monitored on Day 21 of a mythical 28 day cycle hmm. If you do want to go the fertility route I would strongly recommend going private tbh - fertility is definitely a Cinderella service in the NHS sad.

Deb, as LG says, you sound like you have a hell of a lot on your plate right now, big hugs. Sorry to hear Ethan found lunch times hard this week - I think they must be one of the most daunting parts of school. I'm pleased to hear school are doing an IEP - although the use of the word 'disability' must have been hard to hear, he does have needs over and above what would be considered 'average' and if those needs are addressed now then hopefully an IEP would only be a short term measure, esp the speech issues.

Gig, great to hear that they've brought forward your chemo so you won't be in for your birthday - I have to say chemo would be fairly high on top of anyone's list of shit ways to celebrate their 40ths blush. Great news about the concert instead grin!

LG, yay that DS1 found school good on his first day - hope 2nd was good too smile.

Have our first big charity do here tomorrow and am very nervous blush.

Speaking of charity, if anyone fancies sponsoring dh to do a 10k for the hospice, then all donations gratefully received grin!

The Devine Runners!

disguisedeb Sun 16-Sep-12 14:09:48

Thanks for all your support, really appreciate all your comments. Pirate, you phrased it so well.

Just to let you know I have bought a Christmas present shock in September, what is the world coming to?

Gigondas Sun 16-Sep-12 20:01:15

shock deb what have you done? grin

had lovely lunch with pirate and her boys - despite their post first week fatigue, dd1 and pirates ds1 got over themselves to get into playmobil/attacking the garden/eating snacks. And I was glad that my favourite whirlwind ds2 was in form grin.

what has everyone else been doing this weekend? I saw some sporty photos on fb secret

laghow you doing?

PiratesKnittingTreasure Mon 17-Sep-12 16:32:24

shock shock shock at deb!!!!! grin

Gig, we had a lovely time thank you - glad that DS2 entertained you grin. It was lovely to see the kids playing so well together as always - and that DS1 was honoured enough to be allowed to play with Princess Disco Barbie or whatever her name was grin!

MySecretSelf Mon 17-Sep-12 16:55:46

grin at Deb. My work here is done wink

Thank you comments on testing, fertility etc. I really appreciated it. On the fertility route Pirate, DH and I have agreed that we won't pursue any treatment, we just really want to get an idea of the likelihood of further pregnancy (although obviously it's not an exact science). We don't want to spend the next few years desperately trying to have a baby. Lovely to hear about your 43 year old friend Gig. I'm glad things worked out for her.

Deb, just to add my comments that it sounds like you've got a lot on just now. You're obviously finding comfort in a bit of christmas shopping wink. No-one will be surprised to know that I ordered DS's main present last week - we're going for imaginext batman stuff here.

Not much else to report - I'm enjoying my study free evenings and weekends, and throwing myself into getting the house sorted out. these are the curtains I've settled on Gig (I think).

The afternoon has run away with me, so I must dash and start cooking dinner. Will try and come back and catch up properly again later!

LaGuerta Mon 17-Sep-12 20:25:33

All well here. DS seems to be liking school. I have gleaned that:
In his class they speak English but in the other classes they speak in foreign languages. The other two reception classes speak in Indian and African apparently
He has a new best friend today who is a girl. They played families. He was the Daddy and she was the Mummy. Their baby got stolen by a bear TWICE and they had to call the police to get the baby back.
That's all I know.

I had a bit of a SMOG incident today when a neighbour with daughters at the school chose to tell me "the thing" with DS's teacher is that she likes good girls but doesn't like naughty boys.

Nice curtains for your DS Secret. We are having our own soft furnishings crisis here wink. My parents have been back over the weekend to do a blind for DS2 and curtains for DS1 with fabric I have bought on the Internet. Anyway after two days of them stressing and flapping around they have finished off and gone to France. However the curtains are really bad. At my request I wanted them "full" and blackout lined. They are so full that they only draw back to reveal about a third of the window. Basically they need to come down, have the lining taken out and reduced in width by a third. The blind is also not right but is tolerable. I probably sound really ungrateful, but really I feel bad that they have put so much time and emotional energy into it, and it's still not right.

Better go as I need to cook some tea.

MySecretSelf Tue 18-Sep-12 13:39:42

grin at the goings on at DS's school LaG!

Sympathies on the soft furnishes debacle. It reminds me of when my dad decorated our spare room for us while I was pregnant. I got green tape for the ceiling etc and he insisted that he didn't need masking tape. Lo and behold, a crap finish (I'm very particular about neat edges) along the join between the ceiling and wall, and don't get me started on the light switch, paint on the windows, paint on the skirting board etc. I really really appreciated him giving up his weekend to do it by I was so miffed about the finish. This is the room that we're now doing for DS and I'm miffed about it all over again as I need to paint the ceiling and skirting boards (which I hate) and they wouldn't have needed to be done if my dad had done a good job!

Not much to report here - bit of a duvet day as DS a bit under the weather.

Gig - is this week a hospital or home week for you?

disguisedeb Tue 18-Sep-12 19:46:52

SMOG, please enlighten me?

disguisedeb Tue 18-Sep-12 19:47:17

wonder what my reception children say that we've been doing?

MySecretSelf Tue 18-Sep-12 20:06:22

SMOG = smug mothers of girls I think. As in mothers of girls (not all obv Gig grin) who think that girls are angels and boys are terrors on account of their gender.

Gigondas Tue 18-Sep-12 20:10:56

What my girl who has nits (joy grin) and the other one who threw up on me this morning without opening her eyes? grin not sure I am a smog yet.

MySecretSelf Tue 18-Sep-12 21:54:09

You're going about this the wrong way Gig. Clearly some naughty dirty boys brought nits to school grin

LaGuerta Tue 18-Sep-12 22:06:33


Sorry for the acronym.

The lady in question is very nice but I honestly do wonder about some people's sensitivity sometimes.

No great pearls of wisdom about school today from DS. I do have a question:

Deb - how often do you send your kids home with a new reading book? The same one has arrived home each night for all 4 nights since he started. It's an Oxford reading tree one and has no words apart from "swing ball" which appears once grin. I am now ignoring it having dutifully gone through it with DS and written comments on the record book on night 1. The teacher has made a point of saying that they won't get a new book every night but a change seems reasonable at this point. I don't want to be unreasonable.

LaGuerta Tue 18-Sep-12 22:09:18

Instead DS1 is very keen on all bible stories that my mother has an endless supply of to pass on. It was Elijah last night (lengthy), Easter at bedtime (gory) and Christmas tonight (exciting if you are 4).

Gigondas Wed 19-Sep-12 09:28:52

Big gig has a book a day and it is all focused on one word. They don't always change so do need to remind them.

Nits seem under control (dh doesn't have them but still had to be treated). But I suspect won't be our last infestation .

lag big gig also into the bible stories they do at school- i liked the puzzled "why did god do that?" as was incredulous about him flooding the earth. From fb looks like your ds secret has been coming out with some classic outbursts . I liked the hard lesson about chocolate and stomach ache.

pirate have had a bumper pre order of playmobil and I big gig has enjoyed going over the catalogue .

LaGuerta Wed 19-Sep-12 14:26:41

I have made my first Christmas purchase: panto tickets for the start of December grin

It's not a present so does it still count?

Gigondas Wed 19-Sep-12 20:15:27

Oh yes it does (sorry grin)

pirate knows my view on panto so sooner you than me.

LaGuerta Wed 19-Sep-12 20:35:27

Pleased it counts. smile

I tend to be a bit of a Scrooge until the last minute, but despite this I am pleased that I have a little surprise to save for ds1. If I tell him now he will pester me about it for the next three months.

We went last year with the same NCT friend who has also since moved away. So we will be returning to Guildford for lunch, a bit of shopping and panto. grin

LaGuerta Wed 19-Sep-12 20:35:54

I did belatedly get the joke Gig smile

PiratesKnittingTreasure Wed 19-Sep-12 20:38:47

IME LG books would get changed once a week - repetition is supposed to be good for them, but god it's boring sad. I can't think of anything more designed to put kids off reading for life than tedious reading schemes, but then almost all kids were free readers (as you'd expect in Y6!) so don't really have much experience. We have Colour Bears at the moment - yawn grin!

grin at SMOG woman - silly thing! I had a similar experience with the school photographer on Monday morning - she made a comment about how many boys there were this year, I smiled and agreed (riveting conversation grin) and then she replied, "yes, too many, what a nightmare"! shock What an offensive thing to say to a mum of two boys!! (Who, at the time, were sitting good as gold waiting to have their photo taken while the girl who was supposed to be ahead of us was lying on the floor having a paddy to end all paddys hmm!).

Got involved in a bunfight on here a couple of days ago about the nightmare behaviour of boys - drives me mental sad.

envy at bumper order of playmobil - hope nits have gone!

Christmas - I've started knitting decorations grin.

PiratesKnittingTreasure Wed 19-Sep-12 20:42:47

x-posted! yes, gig and I are at one of the evils of panto grin!

Hoping ILs will take boys this year!

LaGuerta Wed 19-Sep-12 21:40:35

Thanks for the advice Pirate and Gig, and for clarifying that repetition of books over a few nights is desirable. I was wondering whether this is what was expected.

Reading book update <drum roll>

He came home with a new book tonight <yay>, and some positive comments in his reading record about him doing well at a phonics matching game.

It would seem that as a result of this, the new book is a bit of leap from the first one which had no words in it. It is level 2, and focuses on the blended sounds "th, sh and ng". I am a bit hmm as it assumes knowledge of non blended sounds which he doesn't know. Well he knows some basic sounds but probably only half of the alphabet.

Am I being naive here, but wouldn't non blended sounds be the obvious place to start?

I think I am sounding like a nightmare parent, but rest assured, I haven't raised this with his teacher. Do bear with me whilst I get over this bout of PFBitis.

Quick question regarding DS2. He is pinching my neck then giggling alot. I have scratches to show for it. They are sore. Tonight he scratched DS1 when he was getting changed. As a result he has scratch marks on his nipples! shock. Apart from responding with a "no", a stern look, putting him down, and walking away, there isnt much I can do is there? This response is having no effect. Please reassure me that he wont still be doing this when he is 10. Thanks.

MySecretSelf Wed 19-Sep-12 22:03:09

Ahoy mateys! (Well, it is international talk like a pirate day)

He won't still be doing it when he's 10 LaG grin Sounds like you're doing exactly the right thing. I wouldn't be able to tease DS with a 'surprise' either, he'd be unbearable!

I would have expected the blended sounds to come a bit later, based on my expert knowledge gained from jolly phonics! Your PFBitis is allowed - I'm here fretting that your DC will all learn to read before DS and wondering if the education system discriminates against the Scottish grin

Christmas - well today I took delivery of DS's main present <pulls out trump card> grin. No playmobil though (imaginext batman). What's with the anti-panto views? I thought I might take DS this year, though it would be in-between Christmas and New Year.

Linky to your bunfight Pirate?

PiratesKnittingTreasure Wed 19-Sep-12 22:17:23

Just hate panto - no real reason blush! Don't know why - it just brings me out in a rash grin! Dh and Gig both share my pain grin!

I really wouldn't worry about all of our kids learning to read first - DS1 is nowhere near being able to read and as I always remind myself, education is a marathon not a sprint grin. Yes to learning non-blended sounds first but then the Letters and Sounds programme that DS1 is following appears to bear no resemblance to his reading book confused. His book is about colours so he can 'read' it all by just looking at the colours - although he seems to have a total mental block over yellow! hmm

The letters is learning are s, a, t and p I think from memory and then they build up from there. We will also have so-called 'tricky' words to learn that don't have any phonic way of learning them.

I will now share my bit of PFBitis - DS1 told me yesterday that he is Square group and I spent 10 minutes grilling him about who is in his group and who are in the other groups blush. I have no idea at all about the academic abilities of any of these kids so I don't know what I was going to work out with this information but found myself strangely obsessive blush grin.

I'm leaving all this reading malarkey to the experts and just trying to let DS1 'enjoy' the books he brings home. Hope this works!

Re DS2, my DS2 went through a terrible biting stage at a similar age LG - he did grow out of it grin! I did exactly what you did, put him down and walked away.

PiratesKnittingTreasure Wed 19-Sep-12 22:19:23
MySecretSelf Wed 19-Sep-12 22:55:12

Interesting thread Pirate! Particularly interesting that there is an undercurrent even among the most moderate posts that play-fighting and other energetic behaviour = bad and quietly colouring in = good. So basically the behaviour that is easiest for adults is automatically better? I didn't read it all, but the posts I did read seemed to ignore the comments from a pretty balanced post that acknowledged that while boys might have a fight and move on (visible, easy to spot and deal with) girls possibly more likely to be subtle about falling out (not letting someone play etc, more hidden and harder to deal with). I think the differences between gender in children is really interesting but share your angry at parents who generalise and reinforce negative stereotypes.

Gigondas Thu 20-Sep-12 07:22:04

Skimmed that thread- what I can't get over (and you and others made that point) is boy or girl , that is utterly unacceptable behaviour and fuck all to do with gender. And at what point did the op not do something- I would have sent kids home certainly at point started food throwing. Even mini gig gets (gently) discouraged from food throwing.

Oh and big gig can throw tantrums, act up about some crisis at school (eg her friend "pushed" her when did no such thing) and can smack out so girls are Angels is bollocks. And totally agree about colouring v running about- its a stupid argument (and I notice that a false one as pirates boys will play quietly with playmobil etc or watch tv and chat so it is not that can't).

disguisedeb Thu 20-Sep-12 15:55:44

Reception teacher advice here. I am doing my very best to change books mon, wed, fri. Like pirate says repetition is good and this site has really good ebooks, if you are really fed up with the books from school. My rec group are still on the ORT stage without words and when we have learned a few more sounds and they have begun to blend them, then I will move onto books they can read because they have the phonic knowledge needed or there is a repetitive text.I don't think LaG that your ds should be on the level with sh, ch , th. They appear to have missed out a whole level .Ethan hasn't had a book home yet, just a shared library book. He has had homework though - a sound book showing which sounds he's learned and then a book to practice his writing in.He know some of the sounds but it's not easy for him.

Physio yesterday and we have exercises and stretches we must do everyday with Ethan in order that he doesn't have to wear a splint. I'm hoping that she was just scaring us into doing them, the thought of him having to wear a splint throughout childhood horrifies me.She also said how tired he would get and not to plan much for half term or the beginning of Christmas holidays as he will just need time to recover.

LaGuerta Thu 20-Sep-12 22:19:54

Deb - thank you for taking the time to post I know you have a lot on. I feel better knowing that having a level 2 sounds book sounds odd to you too. DS did say this afternoon that he got to choose that book himself which doesn't sound likely/sensible either based upon my limited knowledge of how reading schemes are administered. So I think I might ask tomorrow how the books get chosen rather than continue to speculate. She can't really think he is ready for it.

Sounds like the physio appointment was emotionally draining. In my limited experience physios do use the tactic of prescribing more exercises than they expect the patient to complete. That's certainly what happened to me when I was treated for post partum divarication (split tummy muscles). At the follow up appointments she seemed very pleased with my progress whilst I was convinced that I would get told off for not having done enough work. However, for Ethan it is obviously much more serious and he needs the best possible chances of avoiding the splint <hugs>

Well, I have made the most of DH being away by having a quick cry watching the Gareth Malone choir programme. blush A combination of the music and being so blown away by watching DS start school is having its affect. I am tempting fate here, but he has just been so happy going in and coming out. It's lovely to watch. He asked this evening if he could go and do "great singing" at school on Thursday's after school. I think there is a choir for the infant years, and he loves singing. So at home time when 3 of his classmates went to choir he thought he would like to do it too. He already has two after school activities which I already think is pushing it this term, so might see if he could do it later on in the term.

Off the subject of my PFB's education wink. Did anyone watch Kirsty and Phil this evening? If you did you might be interested to know that the church they rejected is on our walk to school.

MySecretSelf Fri 21-Sep-12 14:49:05

Deb, I was told in my early 20s if I didn't do some physio on my back (my spine slightly wonky) I'd have to wear a back brace for life. For reasons I won't bore you with (and very obviously me in RL) I didn't have the physio and I've never had to wear a brace!

Randomly though, I've discovered the wonders of physio recently following my knee injury so might now have some on my back following injury last year to sort out ongoing niggles.

Sounds like you've for a lot to contend with though so wine for you and best wishes for DS.

On phonics, DS gets a lot out of the alpha blocks pages on the cbeebies website. There's a load of phonics games on it which he mastered really quickly. He only plays them for a short time when he asks for it, so really driven by him, but maybe a fun way to reinforce learning if school books are a bit tedious?

I'm currently en route to London for a girlie w/e - cant wait!!!

PiratesKnittingTreasure Fri 21-Sep-12 20:57:22

Deb, I'm impressed you change books three times a week! shock You put me to shame blush.

LG, you may have got an answer already but I think it's quite standard practise to have a choosing book and a teacher book - that is certainly what DS1 and his buddies seem to have.

Deb, (((()))) for you and Ethan.

Secret, enjoy your weekend!

LaGuerta Fri 21-Sep-12 21:45:12

But this is choosing just one book themselves from the reading scheme. No second book chosen by the teacher.

Anyway, yes I have got an answer. The reason for DS getting a blended sound book and not a level 1 book is because, "We didn't think, well yes we did think, but not soon enough about how much extra ORT stock we would need for going from an intake of 60 to an intake of 90." So they have more books on order and in the meantime there aren't enough level 1 books to go round. To tide them over the children are allowed free choice of the harder books.

In the "education is a marathon not a sprint" world view this isn't a biggie. It is a bit dim though to send home books that the children have little chance of being able to complete and not forewarn the parents that it would be fine just to read the book to them. Did they really think that the parents wouldn't notice? I was not the only person asking about this this morning.

PiratesKnittingTreasure Sat 22-Sep-12 08:40:33

Oops! Yes an explanation would have helped!

Gigondas Sun 23-Sep-12 12:01:43

That sounds a bit pants about the books lag.

Am absolutely knackered as big gig keeps waking early. Am sure it's a phase (probably over tired) but has anyone had any luck with those light up alarm clocks? She is waking everyone else up and it is killing dh and me

Gigondas Sun 23-Sep-12 12:11:11

Oh and have just got complete angry at someone asking mothers of boys whether she should get Lego or duplo for christmas

disguisedeb Sun 23-Sep-12 20:05:12

Thanks for support everyone, much appreciated. Hoping to get planning finished now in time for Downton smile

LaG - hmm at your school and their reading book fiasco!!

Which Kirsty and Phil am I missing? new series?

MySecretSelf Sun 23-Sep-12 22:41:24

We have a sleep trainer clock Gig - I personally wouldn't recommend them. Once the novelty wore off it just became a very expensive clock! DS has a small jar - when he sleeps all night in his own bed until at least 6 am he gets pasta in his jar (and gets some taken out when he doesn't) and when it's full he gets a pre-agreed treat. It works quite well. When it started we gave him pasta for a few different things so he could see it build up. What was the Lego or duplo thing - I didnt get it?

Did you get finished in time to watch Downton Deb?

Back home following w/e away - brilliant time but cream crackered now!

LaGuerta Sun 23-Sep-12 23:05:32

We have a gro clock. We got it when DS1 was 2.5. He understands it and it works for us (kind of) i.e. if he gets up before "the sun" he comes and tells us that it is still night time wink. I would say at 4 yrs though there is no need for the clock. I have read that you can just give them a standard digital clock, tape over the minutes and tell the child to stay in bed until it is a "6" or "7" or whatever you are aspiring to.

I have just dipped into Downton as I was ironing (again). I'm not a fan wink it is akin to Acorn Antiques for me confused. Tolerable as ironing fodder though.

Gigondas Mon 24-Sep-12 07:02:31

I think it is a new series - mid week sometime . Did you see downtown deb? Agree its a bit acorn antiques lag (did you see parades end- thought that was brilliant ).

secret have you got today off to recover?

thanks for clock advice - big gig was up at 4 but got sent back to bed and is still asleep now. An going to try clock/stars for a while. I think she is overtired from school which is causing all this.

Friend over to visit today- will be low key as I am a bit one armed (still badly bruised where put line in).

Gigondas Mon 24-Sep-12 07:03:44

deb how is Ethan doing? Is he bit more settled?

LaGuerta Mon 24-Sep-12 16:15:16

Didn't watch Parade's End. Anything that can be classed as a costume drama gets DH moaning. Mad Men sneaks onto the approved list because it is 1960s. I am still lobbying for an Atlantic Boardwalk DVD. Most of our viewing is US HBO things. Just finished the latest season of True Blood. Not one for the squeamish, but we enjoy it. blush

On terrestrial TV we regularly watch:

"Quiz Hour" in a Monday. Which comprises University Challenge followed by Only Connect. Only Connect is a guilty pleasure. We love the nerdiness of it; cringe at Victoria Coren's terrible jokes, and are genuinely excited if we get any of the answers correct.

Kirsty and Phil obviously. Deb - the new series is on Thursdays. I have missed at least one episode.

And the Great British Bake Off as Gig is already aware!

LaGuerta Mon 24-Sep-12 16:18:39

Oh and can I note here that I have had ANOTHER Monday encounter with a SMOG. I won't go into the details as I know I am boring on this subject.

Gigondas Mon 24-Sep-12 16:20:04

You have missed a treat lag but I like
The viewing list grin. I am afraid our list
Is much more low brow (lots of
Crime drama and sport) but quiz night sounds good.

Pandoras box open here - just had first incident of big gig trying to hit little gig. Was always going to happen and predictably now little gig crawling , it has tipped it off. Might have to get my referees
Whistle out grin

LaGuerta Mon 24-Sep-12 18:19:33

Just realised I meant "Boardwalk Empire" earlier on.

LaGuerta Mon 24-Sep-12 18:22:44

On the hitting issue you will be comforted to know that at 22 months old the tables have turned and DS2 is now the main protagonist of sibling violence. DS1 is now amazingly tolerant of being poked, jumped on, scratched, hair pulled etc. normally responding with a "DS2 you are very naught. Say sorry to me." Which DS2 of course ignores.

PiratesKnittingTreasure Tue 25-Sep-12 13:10:23

Oh no LG, you must share details of the SMOG! grin I really wish we'd recorded the play that our boys shared last time I was down - it was such a lovely, thoughtful, imaginative game. No charging around, no violence, just lots of chat and copying of adult lives (I seem to remember one of them going off to work with the 'laptop'! grin). I'm not for one minute saying that I don't have groups of boys charging around my house sometimes, but it's so one-dimensional to portray them as this is all they're about hmm.

grin at DS1 expecting DS2 to say sorry. My DS1 was winding DS2 up the other day (seems to happen more this way than the other nowadays!) and DS2 said "DS1, your behaviour is annoying me and I'm going to ignore you!" grin Wonder where he got that from? blush

Watching Vexed at the moment - think it was on a while ago but we recorded it. Very good smile.

Gigondas Tue 25-Sep-12 14:33:53

Am assuming you don't mean me as a smog. wink. I am not surprised we had hitting- mini gig goes for big gigs toys and looks for reaction (Barbie being a particular target - her first crawling was to get her hands on Barbie and knock over big gigs pyramid). Just hope it's not going to be more frequent (until they are old enough to be more equal then it was no holds barred if like me and my sis).

Gro clock in place and star chart here so hope no more 3am visits ...

Oh and I may be overruled on gbbo tonight as its a new midsomer murder on other side and dh is having a particularly rubbish day at work so will pull that one . I need to explain to him how vital it is I watch it live to comment smile.

That shows how rock and roll we are .

disguisedeb Tue 25-Sep-12 17:11:46

caught Downton, may have to download K and P!

Ethan OK, getting support in school , SALT appointment tomorrow.

LaGuerta Thu 27-Sep-12 22:45:23

The SMOG incident was technically a SMOGOB incident now I come to think of it. That's a brand new acronym that I have just invented, "Smug Mother: One Girl, One Boy".

Said SMOGOB who has a girl in reception and a 2yo boy said, "I just don't know how you cope with only boys," and then proceeded to detail the ways in which she finds her DD preferable to her DS whilst her DS was at her feet.

Better stop and get some sleep.

MySecretSelf Thu 27-Sep-12 23:12:28

shock LaG. Poor boy.

We went to look at the school DS will go to today. It was fine, but I was a little bit unsettled about the boys at the school - they were all really scruffy and didn't seem engaged. A generalist statement I know, but it niggled me. I had such an unhappy time at school and I think it makes me really anxious about sending DS.

Gigondas Fri 28-Sep-12 13:44:41

Oh no secret- it's hard isn't it when you can't work out what is your projection and what is real . The scruffy thing could just be boys (or girls- big gig not the tidiest) in uniform- how is ds1 uniform bearing up pirate.

I think lag may have identified a new phenomenon. Annoying mother (whose kid now mercifully moved onto another school) was very vocal in complaining about having a boy as they are all "really naughty" hmm and she can't pass on any of the ridiculous amount --clothes she has for her --spoiled madam dd. this is dd I have moaned to pirate about.

You may not remember but a little girl in dd nursery died whilst in hospital last year- turns out seems like was horrible accident sad story

LaGuerta Fri 28-Sep-12 13:52:31

Thats doesn't sound like a great first impression Secret. Do Scottish schools publish SATS results (or whatever you have instead) split by gender? You can get them down here I think. It might evidence or disprove your concerns. Is there any flexibility on which school he goes to? It's the RC one isn't it? Is that an important factor for you?

LaGuerta Fri 28-Sep-12 13:56:02

Gig - yes I do remember and how terrible that it could have been avoided. Those poor parents. sad

LaGuerta Fri 28-Sep-12 13:59:16

...and, I have bought first Christmas presents today. There was a fund raiser at playgroup this morning and they were selling kermit backpacks.

Presents in September is a record for me. <awaits award from Secret>

MySecretSelf Fri 28-Sep-12 15:34:55

That's awful Gig - stories like that give me a real chill. The poor parents.

On schools - no real flexibility on schools unless we move. It is the RC one, which isn't that important to me but the non-denomination catchment school would turn me into an avid home-schooler grin

I'm sure it's fine. The school reports are ok. We don't have SATS I think. I leave the official educational stuff up to DH as it's his speciality. He did think it was a bit of boys being boys (the scruffiness) and he reminded me that the P1 - P3 children all looked perfectly happy. It's highly unlikely that he'd be at the school beyond that time. I think a lot is probably my projection - the whole thing has really brought to the surface some of my most miserable memories of school!

Delighted to hear about the Christmas shopping LaG! Now, hasn't Deb already purchased a Christmas present too? Come on Pirate and Gig, you've got a bit of time yet. I'm actually a bit behind for me. I'm working up courage to tell various friends with children that I'm not planning on getting their DC presents this year and asking them not to buy DS any tat. We have 17 children we normally buy for, which is just ridiculous I think. I do love buying presents for them, but I think it's time to cut that number right back and not just because we're much more generous than some of their parents.

In other news, I'm crossing my fingers and toes that my scuzzy neighbours have done a midnight flit (does that expression translate in England?). There have been no sign of them for days despite it being school time, both of their scruffy beat up vehicles haven't been seen (there's usually one beaten up old banger in the drive way with no insurance and flat tyres), the rabbit has gone from the garden, and all the blinds and curtains have been closed. Of course, they could have gone and we could get someone equally vile but I really really hope they've gone. I will update after I get home later.

grin at the SMOGOB stories! Is it usually mum's who have a DD first? I imagine that they were SMOG's with their PFB and were aghast to discover DC2 was a boy. I've a couple of SMOGs here, but no entertaining stories unfortunately. They're just a bit tiresome so I avoid,avoid, avoid now.

PiratesKnittingTreasure Fri 28-Sep-12 21:27:49

OMG LG, that's horrible sad. I think mixed gender families can bring their own brand of smugness (certainly see a lot of it on MN!), but that is horrible! Have a friend on FB that has an older son and younger daughter - as soon as daughter was born her FB pic changed to pics of her and has remained so, and we rarely hear a word about the boy. I don't see her much in RL anymore (she lives miles away) but I do wonder if boy picks up on this bias sad. So in answer to your question Secret, I think it can work both ways - I have encountered the "boy first, girl second" mums who were totally relieved not to have two boys and who definitely favour their girls sad.

And congrats on your Christmas shopping LG grin. I'm just about to look at the Web Ivory catalogue Secret, does that count? grin 17 kids????? shock Yes, way too many! It always amazes me how much people spend on Christmas presents and how many people others buy for - does anyone here still buy for siblings cos we stopped years ago? We buy for the boys, each other, our parents and dh's grandad. (I will, of course, be adding Goddaughters to that list grin, especially if it means I can buy more popstar Barbies especially for Gig the Gigs grin wink!). That's it!!!! Is that really stingy?! I find it so sad that people run up debts that they spend months paying off, and so much is spent on total and utter tat - the shops are already full of tat for adults to buy each other for Christmas and most of it will be in the bin by January confused. Sorry, very bah humbug I know!

Secret, sorry to hear you were worried about the school sad. Do you know any parents of kids already there? I think other parental experiences are so important in these circumstances.

IKWYM about anxieties brought on by your own experiences - I was telling Gig this week that DS1 told me on Wednesday that two boys in the other YR class had decided they didn't like him so were chasing him and "trying to kill him" and hitting him sad sad. He was incredibly matter of fact about it and a bit bemused because, as he said, "I'm just nice to all the people in my class mummy" sad. I wrestled about what to do and then phoned his teacher Thursday lunchtime just to give her the heads up - she was brilliant, told me I had done the right thing and by the time I picked him up from school she'd identified the culprits, spoken to them and spoken to DS1 about how he must always tell a teacher if someone was being unkind to him. Very impressed. I will obviously keep an eye on the situation, but I was reassured.

Just made me feel so sad to think that, only three weeks in, kids are behaving so unpleasantly. Why do they do it? sad

Talking of unpleasant, yay about your neighbours Secret grin!

Gig, DS1's uniform is a total and utter mess! I will not be buying white again - red and green polo shirts from now on! All five of them are now trashed, his jumpers are stained and the bottom of all his trousers are frayed where he walks on them blush. Oh well - he had one day looking smart grin.

So utterly tragic about this little girl. Devastating for her parents, but (and this is maybe because I come from a family of nurses) I also always feel so sad for the staff involved in these things - how horrendous to have that death on your conscience. We all fuck up at work, but when doctors and nurses fuck up the end results can be utter tragedy sad.

MySecretSelf Fri 28-Sep-12 22:12:12

I do know one parent with children at the school and they're happy with it. Nice family etc.

Glad you agree 17 is too many Pirate! Must confess a godchild is one of those being dropped blush but we see him once a year max and he has two siblings (wouldn't buy for one and not the other two). Actually a second godchild (also two siblings) being dropped blush. That's mostly to do with the lack of thanks from the elder children though. I don't expect a card or anything but I sent a bottle of champagne for the eldest's 21st (the other two much younger) and not as much as a thank you text. angry A third godchild has made the cut though grin

Until now I've still bought for my siblings (but not DH's), but negotiating dropping DB and DSIL as they now have two DC. I have no problem still buying for my (so far) childless DSis and her partner - they buy lovely gifts for all three of us and as they have 7 DN to buy for I like to get something for them.

Gigondas Sat 29-Sep-12 11:05:20

Lurking and waving will be back later (was out last night so tired plus am anaemic again hmm). I did some Xmas shopping when I was out on Thursday and ordered some stuff off net for stockings last week.

Oh and I think you are completely right not to go mad on Xmas presents if dont get a thank you etc.

disguisedeb Sat 29-Sep-12 11:16:31

17!!!!!! I'm like Pirate, we only buy for immediate family and we buy for sil and bil as they have no children.

Such a sad story about that little girl

Secret self, keeping everything crossed that awful neighbours have gone for good

MySecretSelf Sat 29-Sep-12 11:45:21

Hmmm, I think I was wrong about the neighbours. One of their mothers has been back and forward a couple of times today. No idea why obviously. I suspect the family are maybe just away somewhere. sad

MySecretSelf Sat 29-Sep-12 11:48:12

Oh, and you have all given me courage to tell everyone with children that there will be no Christmas presents this year!

<goes back to curtain twitching>

Gigondas Sat 29-Sep-12 14:40:41

Are they in prison?

And 17 is way too many - agree with deb.

PiratesKnittingTreasure Sat 29-Sep-12 17:08:58

Hmm, can totally relate to the unacknowledged presents - I have one friend who I religiously sent presents to for her son and daughter for years. Every birthday and Christmas. I did not receive one single acknowledgement for any of it. Not one. I'm not expecting a hand written thank you note, but even a text to say it had arrived would have been nice hmm. Needless to say, I no longer bother!

Childless siblings are a bit of a problem but all of our siblings are childless sadly! We do buy birthday presents but SIL particularly is a nightmare to buy for and always used to go completely over the top with stuff for us so we just knocked it on the head.

I tend to buy little things I think sibs would like throughout the year as otherwise it gets lost in the melee of xmas. Or am I just tight? blush

So I'm last to get off the starting blocks as far as xmas is concerned am I? grin

Which reminds me, must get on with my knitting - have some decorations to finish!

MySecretSelf Mon 01-Oct-12 18:21:49

Neighbour update : still no sign. The other set of parents appeared today and were in the house for about 5 minutes. They left empt handed.

Current theories:
- in prison
- lottery win
- something awful has happened (in which case I'd feel dreadful speculating blush)
- on holiday (even though it's term time, they're the type)

I've ruled out midnight flit on account of parental appearances.

LaGuerta Mon 01-Oct-12 22:49:08

Hmm curious Secret. Keep us posted.

Only noteworthy events here today are:

That it rained alot so DS walked to school in wellies but I forgot his school shoes. So I did a double trip to school this morning plus home time too. I think I have walked about 4 miles.

A mouse ran across the kitchen floor mid afternoon. The mouse trap has been recomissioned. We are yet to catch anything in this trap. It failed us in our old house. I have cleaned all the surfaces but no droppings so I live in hope that this a lone rogue rodent.

As a result of walking and cleaning I am shattered.

Gig - are you feeling anymore energetic today?

Gigondas Mon 01-Oct-12 23:25:06

Have you tried peanut butter in mouse trap? Meant to work well lag. Do keep me posted as in hospital and bored!

I love the "they look the type to do term time holidays"- I am still voting for prison secret

Doing ok but tired and bored - when you are used to bed at 10 , it's a hard life when have to stay up a bit later.

LaGuerta Tue 02-Oct-12 08:01:00

LaGuerta 1 - Mouse 0 grin

Actually it was small and brown and quite cute so I am a little traumatised by being a mouse murderer. sad

It got dairy milk as its last meal ( which had disappeared impressively). I tried peanut butter in the last house. I always think of AH on this one as she suggested it. However we aren't peanut butter eaters so there was none in the house. DH had to donate a chunk of his covert stash.

GBBO tonight Gig! Hope your day isn't too tedious. Xx

Gigondas Tue 02-Oct-12 08:15:56

I am looking forward to gbbo smile and have few visitors today so may be tiring rather than dull.

grin that mouse gone albeit in a harsh way- dairy milk is a pretty good bait tho.

New second nanny starts today - is friend of first nanny . The real issue is how will big gig try to assert her authority!

PiratesKnittingTreasure Thu 04-Oct-12 12:54:08

How is new nanny going Gig?

Gigondas Thu 04-Oct-12 14:12:00

So far so good- she is very quiet (or as dh says drippy) but kids both like her and she seems very on ball with them (particularly mini gig as one of her last kids she looked after from newborn). The two nannies being friends makes it easy as get on well.

Have been released so just relaxing after huge lunch of toast and baked beans before big gig hits home. New nanny accompanied her on nature walk with school today- had to referee a fight over leaves between her and one of her other chums (not an unusual occurrence as they fight one minute and are hugging the next) about who had most leaves.

Big gig most excited about my return as my sister gave big gig me an early birthday present of some playmobil stuff including a peacock. Big gig was most anxious to see it is brought home (I was allowed home provided I had this playmobil).wink

PiratesKnittingTreasure Fri 05-Oct-12 11:01:33

Welcome home Gig, and Happy 40th! grin

Hope you big gig is enjoying her playmobil grin!

Gigondas Fri 05-Oct-12 11:11:36

The playmobil is almost certainly more popular than mum but she did help me open my presents and mini gig was delighted with the ribbons and papers. Which makes up for her being up to play at 1.30amhmm

It you check out maryannesingleton profile you can see the gorgeous picture she did for my birthday - it even has playmobil in it.

MySecretSelf Fri 05-Oct-12 14:23:08

Glad you're home for your birthday Gig - I hope you're having a lovely day!

I've taken the afternoon off to decorate DS's room so should really crack on with it!!

LaGuerta Fri 05-Oct-12 14:26:12

Happy Birthday Gig!

Can't stop as we have our regular Friday afternoon library/school pick up/swimming marathon starting imminently.

MySecretSelf Fri 05-Oct-12 21:56:19

I've forgotten LaG's patent pending acronym wink but there's a really sad thread in chat just now about a woman who had a daughter after a son.

On another note, OV test all fine (as I was sure it would be) so will have to traipse off to the GP's again next week to see what the next stage is. Thankfully I have another mystery health issue I need to see the GP about or my boss/team would be very puzzled about all my doctor's appointments!

LaGuerta Fri 05-Oct-12 22:05:21


but the S stands for Smug which might not be quite right

PiratesKnittingTreasure Sat 06-Oct-12 08:49:36

No, she's not smug she's a cow angry.

Had to post on the thread, although shouldn't get involved really. I'm so sick of it though - now have to listen to the anti-boy crap at the school gates and it's driving me mental. Luckily two of the mums I've made good friends with have all boy families too so I don't get it from them.

Gig, hope you had a fab fab birthday - are you nursing a sore head? grin

Hope you got DS' bedroom decorated Secret and that your afternoon wasn't too bad LG!

<waves to Deb>

Gigondas Sat 06-Oct-12 15:02:23

I had a lovely birthday (meal out with dh and dsis plus bf at my favourite restaurant. - after dh had spent all day saying we were all off to a school disco theme night and I had to wear a PVC uniformwink). Was moderate on wine if not food- but bit fuzzy as late night then early start.

pirate mini gig is crawling, pulling herself up and trying to break out of her cot- I fear she has seen your ds2 as role model.

lag glad you got your busy afternoon done. What are your weekend plans and have you done any more recipes from Paul Hollywood book? I must admit it is not my most used.

deb waves- how is it going? How is au pair settled and how are boys all doing esp Ethan?

secret (and pirate) I saw that thread - I do find gender ones massively annoying for all reasons that pirate says about boys but I am sorry but if you have ever mc or lost a child when pregnant, all this "it's a genuine depression/ psychological issue" is just fucking bullshit. It's not it is about the parents issues. And there ends today's rant wink

I have strictly on record- did anyone see it and was it good?

Gigondas Sat 06-Oct-12 15:03:38

Oh and well done on decoration secret (and I am pleased that you have done test although its a bit hmm when doesn't say much). Will there be fb photos ESP of the curtains?

PiratesKnittingTreasure Sat 06-Oct-12 15:22:58

Secret, sorry completely missed that you had had your first test results back - good that you had the all clear on that one, hope you don't have to wait too long for next test. Have you had any more thoughts about just having a full MOT and bloods at a fertility clinic? The NHS can be painfully slow blush.

Gig, that sounds like a lovely birthday smile. Maybe we can do lunch on the 5th as a belated celebration too? smile And totally agree with you about the gender thing - when you've been through thinking you'll never be a mother the gender of your children does pale into insignificance.

Yes, Strictly was good, although I'm a bit hmm about DvO's inclusion. She's a professional dancer to all intents and purposes so it's a bit of a nonsense!

PiratesKnittingTreasure Mon 08-Oct-12 21:30:04

Helloooooo <listens to echo> wink

MySecretSelf Mon 08-Oct-12 22:45:59

Have you been killing the thread again Pirate? grin

We're going to stick to the NHS Pirate - I guess we just really want to find out how likely it is I'd conceive again as opposed to exploring treatment so NHS should suit our purposes (I hope!).

Glad you had a nice birthday Gig. When's the George Michael concert?

Decorating all going well, although taking forever. Room painted, curtains up grin, now just need to swap DS into that room. When it's all done I promise to post pics!

Completely shattered so <wave> to all!

disguisedeb Mon 08-Oct-12 22:48:56

quick wave from me, au pair Gig, I wish!! Lisa's lovely but unfortunately not an au pair.

Just agreed to carry on f/t till Easter, what am I doing?

Gigondas Tue 09-Oct-12 09:10:33

Gm on Saturday- am totally done in so easy week for me (its low immunity time again) but am very excited as waiting for delivery of new sauncepansblush.

Yes lunch on 5th would be good pirate

Til Easter ? That is a long time deb

LaGuerta Tue 09-Oct-12 15:03:50


Just sitting in the car (it's raining) until its school pick up time.

GBBO tonight might inspire use of your new saucepans Gig.

Will try and respond to each of you later on.

Gigondas Tue 09-Oct-12 17:19:13

The new pans are lovely. As is my Lakeland booty (new scales and some biscuit cutters) as my dh defied dh Lakeland ban to get me some vouchers .grin

LaGuerta Tue 09-Oct-12 18:53:06

Haha! I ordered some Lakeland stuff last week too. No vouchers here and much muttering from DH. I did have a £5 off code though. I am unreasonably pleased to finally own cooling racks having always had to scrabble around for the grill rack in the past.

MySecretSelf Thu 11-Oct-12 12:33:12

envy of the Lakeland booty - I had to restrain myself when a Christmas catalogue came through the door. We can talk about Christmas now it's October can't we Deb? grin

DS's bedroom all decorated - still bed and carpet to sort. I'll make sure I post a curtain pic for you Gig! envy that you're off to see GM at the weekend - I hope you have a great time. We have a fun-filled weekend planned catching up with old friends so can't wait!

Gigondas Thu 11-Oct-12 12:52:21

Christmas catalogue envyenvyenvy

Yes looking forward to gm and sounds like you have a nice weekend planned.

Look forward to the curtain pics wink

PiratesKnittingTreasure Fri 12-Oct-12 16:10:58

Marking place x

disguisedeb Sun 14-Oct-12 17:41:08

marking place too x

Gigondas Tue 16-Oct-12 10:16:03

How was ds2 birthday pirate?

LaGuerta Tue 16-Oct-12 18:22:22

Doesn't look like I have missed too much in the last few days. Sorry for not being around.

I am a bit frenetic here, but not too much to show for it. Just keeping the family ticking over really blush.

PiratesKnittingTreasure Wed 17-Oct-12 21:02:46

Hi all, DS2's birthday was wonderful thank you - a full day in Legoland on Sunday and then pre-school, followed by his birthday party at our local soft play place. He hasn't stopped smiling since he woke up on Sunday grin!

We did meet a friend yesterday who gave him a belated birthday card and he looked at her and said "where's my present?" blush hmm

Hope everyone else is ok x

Gigondas Wed 17-Oct-12 21:32:53

grin at where's my present ?

Not much to report here as been bit under the weather (nothing major) so been loafing at home.

MySecretSelf Thu 18-Oct-12 12:50:08

Another grin at where's my present! Glad he had a good time Pirate.

How was GM Gig?

Had a fab weekend, but it took a day or two to recover! Looking forward to a quiet weekend this week, though we have lots of chores to catch up like buying and building a wardrobe for DS.

I also really need to get some Christmas shopping done - I've hardly done any!!!

Gigondas Thu 18-Oct-12 14:41:26

Not even from Lakeland?

disguisedeb Thu 18-Oct-12 21:08:25

quick wave from County Durham, a little stressed here, dh is depressed and I'm struggling to get him to talk , Lisa is fine, Stefan ok, just growing up, Tristan been victim of some minor bullying at school and insensitivities of his teacher, Ethan getting lots of support, 1 hour a week OT, 1 session a week SAL, at school, then at home we are doing physio, speech therapy, school reading and word building, and just had suggestions for OT things too. and me....still awaiting Ofsted, still working silly hours planning and paperwork but time in the classroom is lovely as I have a gorgeous class.one week till half term.......then boys and Lisa off to sils and Nigel and I off for a night away somewhere, anywhere.

LaGuerta Fri 19-Oct-12 11:29:37

Oh Deb, sorry to hear of all your pressures and worries. Thats a lot of other people that look to you for support. We're here for you to vent to whenever you need us. I hope you can get away with Nigel and help him open up. Xx

We have PILs here this week till Sunday. It's nice to have them here for the first time since FIL's hip replacement. MIL is poorly though with some stomach condition that her GP hasn't yet identified. She has lost 8lbs in 4 weeks and she didn't have that much weight to loose in the first place. I think FIL is quite worried about her although he and the GP suspect some kind of bacteria that creates acid that can cause ulcers, so resolvable once they have got more path results back.

DS1 is v tired from school so, is on a knife edge between being very happy and excited and howling. Roll on half term!

DS2 has acquired a "sad" face when he is told no. Very pouty and hunched over. It is hilarious, and beats a screaming tantrum. He will be two in less than three weeks. I need to sort presents out!

MySecretSelf Fri 19-Oct-12 12:33:28

Ditto what LaG says Deb. That sounds really tough. I hope things get a little easier too. If he's not already, I hope you can persuade DH to talk to his GP about the depression.

Sorry about your mum too LaG - I hope they get to the bottom of it soon. Do you have any nice half term plans?

No shopping, even from Lakeland Gig grin. I am going to make a dent in the Christmas shopping this weekend though. Not too much to report here, just still looking forward to a quiet-ish weekend which will include a trip to Ikea

Gigondas Sat 20-Oct-12 08:29:14

Deb I am sorry dh having such a hard time- I would echo what self says about trying to get him to seek help. Sorry to hear about bullying- does school know?

self what's on shopping list? I did a fair bit for big gig last time I was in hospital . I have a few bits for mini gig but am bit stuck as she has birthday and Xmas so close together. Also she already has a fair bit so am a bit stuck.

lag I feel your pain about tired tears- we now have a star for a whole day with no tears over nothing (wrong coloured crayon, toy fairy not standing on- mini gig thinks its a game so laughs when she does it).

PiratesKnittingTreasure Sun 21-Oct-12 21:52:34

Deb, I second what everyone else says, big hugs xxxx

LG, hope they find out what is wrong with MIL x

Secret, looks like you and I both had a trip to Mecca today grin.

Gig, smile at a day without crying - an hour without crying from DS2 would be bloody lovely, one hour without backchat from DS1 even better hmm.

Really tired as DS2 has horrible cough so no rambling post from me today x

MySecretSelf Mon 22-Oct-12 11:37:55

Hi everyone,

Managed to get a bit of Christmas shopping in at the weekend Gig, a few bargains from Costco mostly when I was picking up dull things like contact lens solution etc. We handily have a Costco right next to Ikea (a.k.a) Mecca grin, so you can imagine the fun things we've been doing this weekend!

We do however have a new wardrobe for DS's room and I am ignoring the fact that the door doesn't close properly - it's this one here if anyone is remotely interested!

On backchat, unnecessary tears and other 4 yr old delights - we have them all here too. However, DS is poorly today with the lurgy, so the only energy he seems to have is to let me know when a dvd is finished so I can put the next one in...

Random question for the day that occurred to me while having a tidy in the kitchen. Do you all still use melamine bowls/places for your 4 year olds or have you graduated to regular crockery? If you've moved to regular crockery what size of plate do you use? I've still been using melamine plates for DS as he wouldn't eat more than that size of portion anyway, but my slightly bonkers SIL has commented recently how little DS eats - when we go to theirs, I think that the portions they give my DS and their DD (who's 5) are massive - using full sized dinner plates. Obviously I'm not going to change portions etc on the basis of what my SIL does, but it did make me curious as to what other people did.

Oh well, best get back to the day's tasks. Moving beyond curtain gate, we need to decide whether we want a pull out desk with the mid sleeper bed we're getting DS or not. Obviously he doesn't need a desk, but it'd be a nice to have in the future and the style of it will make it easier to hide stuff behind it

Gigondas Mon 22-Oct-12 11:50:17

Yes we still use plastic plates mostly plus china but tbh when (usually nannies) use normal plate or bowl , food gets thrown as dd hasn't that big an appetite. I do use side plates for her sometimes and normal fork/spoon but she prefers the ikea ones.

Definitely get a desk. We are due An ikea trip...

LaGuerta Tue 23-Oct-12 13:25:06

We use a mixture. DS1 has his own china plate that he painted at a pottery cafe last year. It is probably half way between a side plate and a dinner plate in size. He has also been upgraded for cereal to one of our cheap ikea china bowls. He along with DS2 uses Ikea rainbow plates, cups for much of the time. DS1 has a BIG appetite so I find the ikea rainbow plates a bit small for a main meal blush

MySecretSelf Wed 24-Oct-12 21:50:35

Useful to know, thanks. Although, over the last few days he's not ate much at all - woke up with a high temp on Monday and been poorly since. He's much brighter tonight though. I've been feeling a tad guilty - various people have been astonished I haven't taken him to the doctor's and I'm just a bit confused as what can they do for a cold/sore throat really? The weather here has been awful too, so there's no way I'd want to take him out. Please someone reassure me they'd be the same grin

MySecretSelf Wed 24-Oct-12 21:51:19

Oh, he has been steadily getting better and temperature was controlled by calpol/child ibuprofen

Gigondas Thu 25-Oct-12 15:23:42

Well I have been nowhere near dr (despite all chemo be careful warnings) nor has dh nor mini gig with same thing. Nasty tho it is have been doing same thing of dosing up at home. And sympathy for ds as I have no appetite .

Off to France tomorrow grin

PiratesKnittingTreasure Thu 25-Oct-12 16:01:14

Secret, I'm with you on not going to the doctors! I have lost count of the number of doctors' visits some of my friends' kids have had for coughs and colds! You did exactly the right thing. Glad to hear he's on the mend smile.

PiratesKnittingTreasure Thu 25-Oct-12 16:01:46

Have fun in France Gig grin!

LaGuerta Thu 25-Oct-12 21:26:23

Haha - I win the most callus Mummy award having sent DS1 into school for the last two days with what sounds like a similar bug/sore throat/cough. He's been fine, just needs massive downtime after school.

My parents are here this week after PILs last week <weary>. Plus, DH away for three days this week, and I miss him. At this point I wish to insert an emoticon for <being ever so good for not blowing top, but feeling decidedly manipulated non the less> hmm

Vive la France Gig

MySecretSelf Thu 25-Oct-12 22:34:37

I want a 'like' for your post LaG! I'm glad we're all in agreement, there's a reason we all get on grin

Very glad you're getting to go to France Gig - enjoy!

LaGuerta Thu 25-Oct-12 22:48:32

Aww thanks smile

MySecretSelf Thu 25-Oct-12 23:16:36

My favourite moment of the week was when DS, who was working an amazing Daffy Duck impression this week, was chatting along to Micky Mouse's clubhouse!

PiratesKnittingTreasure Fri 26-Oct-12 08:53:30

Who are you feeling manipulated by LG? sad

Hope parents weren't too much hard work.

We're all soooo ready for half term here smile - and then down to a 3 day week after half term, hurrah!

Did I mention CM has handed in her notice and finishes at Christmas?! So will hardly be working at all from Jan-Feb then finish on Valentine's Day smile.

So ready for some me time now - and some time to think about the future smile.

LaGuerta Fri 26-Oct-12 12:03:50

It's probably too complicated and too petty to explain adequately. "Manipulated" is probably too strong a word to describe it but I can't think of a better alternative.

Here goes: essentially they said they would stop here for one night on their way back from France. Then they said last weekend that they would have to stay longer in order to adjust DS's curtains that they made last time they were here, but look all wrong (You see Secret it all comes back to soft furnishings at the end of the day wink). So I cancel a visit from my
cousin yesterday so that they can get on with the curtains. They arrive, eventually look at the curtains, declare nothing is wrong with the curtains but somehow end up staying anyway from Wednesday to Saturday.

Meanwhile DF is saying things to me like, "What you don't realise LaG is that Mummy and I are very wary about asking you for anything as we never know how you will respond." FFS, this is over him asking if he could have orange juice at breakfast and me saying, "Just help yourself".

There are other bits and bobs too... But that's the general vibe. Anyway DH back tonight <yay> and they should go tomorrow. I need to work out how to avoid visiting them next weekend though now that they have been here for longer than expected.

LaGuerta Sat 27-Oct-12 10:09:23

To rub salt in the wound DF said to me last night:

"So your friend x seems nice. Like you she is, well, SUFFERER isn't the right word, but also has two boys to deal with like you."

angryangryangry They are his only grandchildren and I am his only child, yet he still thinks of having two boys as something I have to suffer even if he knew that wasn't the word he ought to use.

I was very restrained though and said, "Well, I think boys are great."

He replied with, "Well I suppose they are just very different."

Please forgive the overt (not even stealth) boast coming up, but in the circumstances I think it is justified...

...DS1 has had a great end to his first half term. He got an award in assembly yesterday for doing a great piece of work. It will go up in a display case for two weeks, he got a special sticker, letter posted home from his teacher etc. He is very proud of himself (as am I)smile

PiratesKnittingTreasure Sat 27-Oct-12 17:51:45

Wow shock shock! I'm stunned. I knew there was a massive anti-boy bias now in society, but from your own dad?????


But good on your DS1, what a star smile!

LaGuerta Sun 28-Oct-12 20:33:41

How was everyone's weekends?

We have a very tired and emotional DS1, and a DS2 who spent a couple of hours last night being sick but then was fine all morning (ate lots of breakfast, was v naughty) until we got to a pub for lunch when he was sick again. We were meeting up with our old next door neighbours from our last house. It was good to see them, but my poor friend has had/is still having a mc, so she was putting a brave face on it but wasn't feeling too well. sad

Mini gig looking sooper cute in Paris. smile

Secret - what brought you down to these parts? We drove within about 500 yards of where you FB checked in this morning. DH has been there in the past for work away days.

Are other Reception DCs monumentally tired after the first half term? Poor DS1 is in bits having got through last week with his bug. He is having a bit of a sleep regression too if that is still possible at 4 years old, plus, the clocks going back is always hideous in our house.

MIL still isn't right with her stomach problems. All the GPs tests for various bugs have come back negative so she has been referred to a consultant and has to have an endoscopy. I think an ulcer is suspected.

Thanks Pirate for your thoughts about my DF. I am still mulling it over/stewing on it TBH. sad

Sorry, that's a bit of a scatter gun post.

PiratesKnittingTreasure Mon 29-Oct-12 19:56:29

So sorry to hear about your friend's m/c sad and your MIL sad.

DS1 seems fine tbh - it's DS2 that's suffering. DS1 has taken to getting up at 5am to go for a wee - he then goes back to sleep leaving DS2 and I wide awake hmm. Really struggling to know what to do about it blush.

MIL really pissed me off this weekend (surprise surprise!). Got the boys utterly gorgeous school photos back and all MIL could say was that DS1 needed to have combed his hair hmm. DS1 climbed on my lap this morning and said "I don't like my school photo cos my hair's all messy, I need to buy a comb." sad angry

FFS. She is so fucking negative about everything - drives me mental. Rant over.

Had a lovely day with an old friend, getting muddy in the woods smile.

Hope everyone else enjoying their half term x

LaGuerta Wed 31-Oct-12 06:33:45

Pirate - sounds like me and you might have some ranting to do when we meet up tomorrow. smile

PiratesKnittingTreasure Wed 31-Oct-12 08:05:04

Oh yes, let's rant together grin!

MySecretSelf Wed 31-Oct-12 12:42:18

Sorry to read of parental/IL woes. Pirate, doesn't your MIL realise that messed up hair is essential for school photos?!?!? I had a great time a few months ago looking at my old school photos (resplendent with messy hair) and was crying with laughter at them asking my mum why on earth didn't she take me to a different hairdresser grin (Not that your boys need a hairdresser obviously, it's just that when our DC look back they will no doubt have the same reaction we all have to photos taken in the 70s!).

LaG - sorry about your dad. Is it a case of, having been a dad to one daughter, you have a completely different experience of parenting to what he had and he thinks it looks like harder work (bearing in mind that the passing of time dimishes how hard things seemed)?

I was in Sussex for a wedding at the weekend - can't believe you were so close on the Sunday morning. We were really just pottering about waiting to back to the airport. If I'd thought ahead we could have met up maybe (although, we may not have been particularly good company!).

Sorry also to hear about your friend's m/c. It completely sucks.

No half term here, but DS is being a monster. Very cheeky and rude. We had a real battle of wills (I lost --my temper--) on Monday. And he really played up at nursery yesterday so I'm hoping he's much better behaved. I'm wondering if it's a combination of still being ill (not sure what the GPs did to him at the weekend, given that he was recovering from being quite poorly last week, but he slept for 3 hours on Monday afternoon) and DH and I being away, or if he's going through a bit of a testosterone boost. He gets really angry at the slightest thing at the moment and then just gets really upset.

Gig, hope you're having a lovely time in France!

LaGuerta Wed 31-Oct-12 21:47:43

Secret - a wedding sounds much more mundane than the theory DH and I concocted that it was a Scottish Labour Party cell trying to penetrate the Tory Heartland grin

That's a very generous interpretation of my DF's thought processes, and probably has a heavy dose of truth to it. I feel so sad though. I would have thought that a man of his generation who hadn't had a son would be do happy and proud to have two grandsons.

MySecretSelf Wed 31-Oct-12 22:21:28

Well, there was a rousing rendition of D Ream's Things Can Only Get Better, and the number of Labour Party voters in the vicinity probably increased quite dramatically. wink

I can understand your sadness about your DF. My mum has a range of issues I struggle with, but I find 'generous interpretations' of where she's coming from is the only way I manage to keep on an even keel with her.

disguisedeb Thu 01-Nov-12 11:28:54

AArgh, my very long post has got lost!!!!!!!!!!!!

Brief summary is... things much better here, been away just me and dh wink for 2 days to hotel..very nice, met my Mum to celebrate her birthday, day of retail therapy, gorgeous lunch in a proper restaurant with no children's menu in sight, and a bottle of champagne grin

Back home now , and really just wanted to sympathise with laG, as an only child my Dad has issues with the fact I've ended up a Mum to 3 noisy boys. It's such a different family life than we had when I was a child. When stefan and tristan were only 4 and 2 , my Dad had problems relating to them, and found them difficult to manage. Now they are 12 and 10 he loves to have them for the weekend. Ethan remains an enigma to him, as he is quite needy and whingy.

And yes, Ethan is very tired reception boy. Still using the melamine plates here, bit bigger than the Ikea rainbow ones though. Also have some with a decent rim round which help Ethan as he struggles with knife and fork. Ethan is more little and often than big meals. We rarely buy him a child's meal when out as he wouldn't eat it all.Or sometimes we buy him one and then give half to Stefan.

Must get on with planning now

Gigondas Thu 01-Nov-12 14:53:24

Quick post to mark spot as still away but will post properly when I can.

Yes we have had sleep regression lag and major meltdowns (crying at the least thing hmm) so it may be an age thing secret.

Your mil is a treasure isn't she pirate ? How she produced dh is a mystery but I wonder that about my mil.

deb glad you had a break - sounds lovely.

As you Will have seen from fb , holiday (incl Disney ) big hit- bizarrely mini gig seemed to love Disney which is worrying !

MySecretSelf Sat 03-Nov-12 08:57:13

I'm glad you got a nice break away Deb. It sounded great!

Also glad to hear you're having a good holiday Gig - well deserved. Pleased to hear that the mini gigs enjoyed Disney, we're thinking of tagging on a day or two at Disney next year when we go back to France on holiday (going back to the gite we've been to a couple of times), if I can figure out the travel/accommodation etc without doubling the cost of our holiday! Annoyingly, it's too early to look at the budget airline flights to regional airports. It would mean we'd end up at Disney on DS's birthday which I think would be an amazing treat for him.

Not that I'm feeling the love for treating him just now. It's very reassuring to read of challenges others are having with their 4 yr olds and that it's likely to be an age thing but grrrrrrrrr at DS! We've paid for a term of mini-kickers which he has so far refused to go to and DS is currently at his swimming class with him and he's refusing to take part. Apparently he's in the water but screaming the place down. Is it too early for wine? I just wish he'd hurry up and get passed whatever phase he's going through. Bedtimes are a real struggle still too and I am just so weary of it, 4 years down the line.

Anyway, I bore myself talking about bedtime dramas so I'll move on! What's everyone up to this weekend? A relatively quiet one here - DS is having someone over for a play date later and I need to take him clothes shopping tomorrow. I've had to send him out in trousers swinging round his ankle, so time for some new ones I think!

PiratesKnittingTreasure Sun 04-Nov-12 15:56:14

Deb, glad you had a well-deserved, good break smile. I think you're right about the dad/grandad thing too - LG, I think your dad may well find them much easier when they're older. I know that doesn't help your feelings now, but there's still time for him to build a relationship with them x

Secret, I'm so sorry to hear you're still having bedtime battles, that must be immensely stressful sad. I assume you've tried all the usual stuff like sticker charts, count downs, sanctions, exhausting him!? Have you ever sought any professional help? I just wonder whether an outsider could help see what is triggering his bedtime issues? It's not fair on you or dh to have to cope with this every night sad. Is he like this when you're away too?

We've had a busy weekend at the fireworks, but a quiet day today as DS1 is back to school tomorrow. Dh has just taken the boys for a walk into town to get a babyccino and I'm just back from the gym and off for a shower x

ChristmasCountdown Sun 04-Nov-12 20:23:08

It's Secret with a pre-season name change!

Yep, we've tried just about everything over the years. Never sought professional help because it's better than it was, and to be honest, he's been a crap sleeper since birth so I think he's just made that way. He's absolutely fine when staying at our parents though! He was absolutely fine last night funnily enough, so hopefully he's starting an ok phase (which he does intermittently). I think he just feels a bit left out when he's in bed and we're downstairs. He thinks it's unfair that me and DH get to share a room and he has to sleep by himself. grin The other day, when I was telling him that I had to go downstairs to do my 'jobs' (i.e. evening chores) he said that I should phone my office to take the day off to do my jobs, then I could go to bed at the same time as him. grin

Loved your pics posted on fb this w/e - looks like you had fun at the fireworks and in Brighton. Quiet w/e here. We didn't get organised to go to any fireworks displays unfortunately. There's one tomorrow night in the city but the parking is terrible and it's in an awkward location for us to get to by bus so we'll give it a miss. I'm mostly spending this evening planning my Boxing Day Buffet menu grin

PiratesKnittingTreasure Tue 06-Nov-12 20:36:14

Thanks Christmas smile, we did have a lovely time - although the boys were not great when we were at LG's house hmm. Sorry about that LG blush. I don't know what was wrong with them cos as soon as we left I got a chorus of "I miss Peter, when can we go back?" Grrrrr.

We've never had a problem with the going to bed aspect, our nightmares have always been ridiculously early wakings, but we do seem to have turned a bit of a corner with this since dh gave DS1 a digital clock and he's not allowed out of bed until the 1st number says 7 grin! It has absolutely transformed his sleep, DS2's sleep and consequently ours. He was getting up at 5.30 shock until then and it was killing us all blush.

Don't know whether this would work for bedtimes? Tell him what the digital clock will read xxx number when it's bedtime and he needs to be in bed, lights out by then? DS1 feels very very grown up with his new digital clock cos he thinks he can tell the time grin!

In other news, was supposed to be having a lovely grown up lunch with Gig yesterday but DS2 selfishly ruined my plans by getting ill hmm blush. Gig, am checking diary commitments to try and rearrange!

Got to go - on line Christmas shopping calls grin.

ChristmasCountdown Tue 06-Nov-12 20:50:13

Yay, for Christmas shopping. I have some to do myself as it happens.. Glad that the clock has made a difference to your early mornings. We have a clock here - it's not really helped.

Sorry DS2 has been poorly - I hope he's much better soon.

Right, off to see what's happening on the election front!

Gigondas Wed 07-Nov-12 10:46:49

Waves to all (and waiting for those diary dates pirate) - need to do some Christmas shopping but at a bit of a loss what to buy for dh and people haven't yet bought for.

I second the clock helping as big gig was doing the early waking too and it has helped (star charts work a treat here). Am afraid on going to bed , it is case of being tough as big gig will try on most excuses if can get away with it (little gig seems to have turned corner on wanting to keep us company in the evenings).

Am still feeling pretty tired (which isn't uncommon as can take a few months to recover from chemo) and a bit frustrated at myself as would like to be more active . Feel sorry for dh and girls as not nice to have a mum like this. But suppose I am slowly improving (and need to remember this) as did manage to get out and about with them last week.

PiratesKnittingTreasure Wed 07-Nov-12 17:44:37

Just messaged you Gig grin.

Sorry to hear you're still feeling tired, but it is inevitable given what you've been through both emotionally and physically over the last year x

I've just entered the Moonwalk for next year - definitely need some butt kicking on the getting fit thing and hopefully this will give me the incentive I need smile.

Secret, real sympathies on the sleep. Maybe try again with the clock? We do try things and then give them up and try them again - this sometimes works blush.

Had a crap day at work (big CP case sad) and counting down the days til I finish now. CM is doing my head into hmm.

Right, reading homework time now - both boys are being monsters, happy days!

Gigondas Wed 07-Nov-12 19:02:29

Yep- can do that date pirate. Sorry work hard and what's up with cm?

Saw therapist today which was helpful- at the moment I think it is not just physical but emotional shift am dealing with. However I have some ideas of what I want to do (may involve studying again) as I am worried about drifting along "being ill" and don't want to do that.

Have any of your dc had a hearing test? Big gig had one at school and needs a repeat test. They tested her hearing at birth and I haven't noticed any issues (that weren't down to selective deafness) .my dad reckons it was her being bored/in attentive (apparently I was the same blush) and my instinct is she is fine but obviously I am not dismissing it out of hand.

PiratesKnittingTreasure Wed 07-Nov-12 19:34:24

DS1 has his hearing test tomorrow - I think your instinct/your dad's may be right, hearing in kids is notoriously difficult to check because they are sometimes just not interested rather than not hearing! Good they are re-testing to be sure.

Studying sounds like a really good idea - any thoughts on what?

CM constantly giving me grief about DS2's behaviour. God, I know he can be a challenge but she is always on his case and I think that's part of the problem sad. He's the only child she minds now and I think he is really bored - he's a socialable and friendly little kid and doesn't like being on his own, plus he's used to being glued to his big bro and is missing him badly. I just don't think she's handling it very well and I end up with a catalogue of moans at the end of the day hmm. Only 6 more weeks!

Gigondas Wed 07-Nov-12 19:40:06

Am not surprised he is bored (and I feel your pain about moaning cm- old nanny used to do this . My favourite was mini gig having tantrums at 6 weeks old hmm). He is a lovely lively little boy who will try to test boundaries if he is bored.

disguisedeb Wed 07-Nov-12 23:35:49

Gig, Ethan had a hearing test as , and his hearing was down , it was glue ear. It was repeated after 6 months and it had cleared itself so no need for gromits. Could be that your dd's ears are slightly blocked due to a cold, and like Ethan it will drain away.

hello all, off to bed now, just checking in

Gigondas Fri 09-Nov-12 09:14:54

Thanks for that deb- I am pretty sure it's not a major issue but will involve another test. I should resign myself to getting familiar with all areas of the health service grin

What is everyone up to this weekend? Am off to watch Lord Mayors show (my idea of hell but big gig excited).

LaGuerta Sat 10-Nov-12 11:04:39

Just realised I haven't posted for a week.

Firstly, Deb, thanks for sharing your experiences with your dad and your boys. It made me feel better to think that I'm not alone in this predicament. We have both sets of GPs coming here for Xmas at the same time so plenty of opportunity for harmonious family celebrations!

Gig - on the hearing front, no test for DS1 yet. DS2 failed his newborn hearing tests and got referred up two further tiers of testing before he was pronounced to be normal. Not really relevant to you, but at the time I did worry a bit. Hey! Congratulations on completing your chemo. Sorry that it's a bit bewildering moving on from it. Studying sounds like a good idea, I will be interested to hear about what you are thinking of.

Christmas. Sorry that bedtimes are still hideous. I babysat for a friend last night who has a 3 yo and a 1 yo who are both hideous sleepers. I have leant her the book I leant you grin. They have never left the 1 yo before and in the last week his sleep has got even worse. I turned up the 1yo was already asleep and the 3yo had a story and then that was it for the evening, not a peep thereafter <phew>

Pirate - don't worry about your boys. I thought they were fine. DS1 was not on great form behaviour wise for most of half term himself. He is much happier now he is back at school.

Not much on this weekend. It is birthday season in our family (3 in a week) so there may be a bit of cake baking this afternoon and present shopping for DH (a photo printer).

ChristmasCountdown Sat 10-Nov-12 21:07:33

Quick post to mark spot. Glad the boom doing the rounds LaG grin I appreciate all the support on the sleeping front, though typically as always, as soon as I have a moan on here, he's not been too bad the last few days grin

Gig, studying sounds like a good idea - any thoughts on what yet?

Not much going on here - DH has been away, so had a busy few days trying to entertain DS. Now got a glass of wine and feet up watching X factor!

Sorry not to post about anything else - my brain is like mush. Will try and read again/post properly tomorrow!

ChristmasCountdown Sat 10-Nov-12 23:58:46

Forgot to say, had a classic chat with a smug mother of a boy and a girl today - she commented that DS was very well behaved and asked if it was because he spent so much time with girls (DS is very friendly with her daughter at nursery). I inwardly had a wry smile and thought of you all! grin

LaGuerta Sun 11-Nov-12 15:50:32

Aha, smug mothers are everywhere! Speaking of which, there was a bit of extreme stealth/blatant boasting on my FB timeline yesterday from someone we all know. wink

ChristmasCountdown Sun 11-Nov-12 20:53:19

DS in bed and asleep in 20 minutes! gringringrin

Like Pirate I'm not-so-accidentally fb friends with others, but could probably guess who you're talking about LaG. Am very nosy and want to know though... grin

Gigondas Sun 11-Nov-12 21:32:42

Yay for good bedtimes - sadly not for mini gig who felt we needed more of her tonight!

I think I know who you mean - was it related to school activities by chance lag wink

Oh and maybe I am doing it wrong but tiredness or just a phase has meant that big gig has been very High maintenance this weekend. Novelty of doing reading books wearing off so some coercion needed there.

Also enjoyed being the Boring parent yesterday as took her to watch Lord Mayors show on a boat so was keeping close eye on her . Her cousins were there and as older -- and parents more interested in drinking--, we got a lot of attitude about how didn't need to look after her/ go away etc. probably not helped by fact she would only eat chocolate.

Gigondas Sun 11-Nov-12 21:33:05

So am defo not a smug mum of girls

ChristmasCountdown Sun 11-Nov-12 21:42:23

Oh, there's nothing more helpful than someone telling you how you should be parenting differently...hmm

I'd be cautious on a boat too Gig. Sorry you've had a high maintenance w/e Gig - I know how that feels!

Gigondas Sun 11-Nov-12 21:46:27

It is annoying ESP when it is coming from your own child (should have made that more clear grin). I could hear myself getting more cross as day went on and was eyeing the wine longingly by bedtime. Poor big gig .

ChristmasCountdown Sun 11-Nov-12 22:03:19

Ah right, that makes sense. Pesky 4 year olds and asserting themselves! grin

ChristmasCountdown Sun 11-Nov-12 22:07:46

Oh, and I'd never have you down as a SMOG Gig. On that vein though, DH's fb friend this week posted about how different it was having a boy (a few weeks old) was compared to having her DD's. this is a newborn we're talking about. Apart from having to watch out for them peeing in the air, what differences are there really in newborn girls and boys????

LaGuerta Sun 11-Nov-12 22:25:41

Yes Gig I was referring to a photo of some school work. WTF?!?

Sorry that big Gig was less than angelic this weekend. DS1 had a very peculiar strop over tea tonight. It involved him belting out of the kitchen howling every time either of us said something to him, and then him coming back again immediately. This went on for about 20 mins. Most exasperating. Eventually he found a pear, sat down, ate it and then returned to his fish fingers as though nothing had happened confused.

disguisedeb Sun 11-Nov-12 23:43:32

Do you know, I thought you were talking about someone else, I had to go on FB and find who it was...why on earth would you take a photo of your child's homework? laG was right - wtf? Be interesting to see how they all compare in 10 years time. smile With Ethan's wobbly hands we have trouble getting him to write on top of the yellow letters never mind writing his own cvc words. None in my class at that level either.

ChristmasCountdown Mon 12-Nov-12 00:11:42

<awaits a private fb message about the schoolwork>

ChristmasCountdown Mon 12-Nov-12 00:12:48

LaG - loved your pear story. Little people are most peculiar!

Gigondas Mon 12-Nov-12 08:00:06

grin at pear story - big gig also had a diva strop about dinner then settled down and ate it (strop lasted about as long as it took me to eat my dinner and drink wine). She seems a lot better today after sleep and fact that chocolate has worn off

deb you have upset me - I had a series of pictures of big gigs schoolwork and little gigs nappies that I thought I might share on fb. As you say , see where we are in a few years.

Off for MRI today so hoping that it sheds some light on why my leg is so stiff and how to help (it is most annoying not being able to put socks on easily.

LaGuerta Mon 12-Nov-12 14:40:41

Christmas - are you looking to me for a FB message? Will do.

Hope the MRI is enlightening Gig. I assume it's a wait for the results though.

Ah Deb - the voice of reason and calm. Glad that as a teacher you thought that post was odd. smile

PiratesKnittingTreasure Mon 12-Nov-12 16:35:52

So true Deb, your comment about "see where they all are in 10 years time"! I'm bored of the sound of my own voice telling my friends not to worry about what their friends' kids are doing now and being able to write a CVC word at 4 is a poor indicator of genius status at 18 grin.

Can't bear the FB boasting about school work - luckily none of my friends are prone to this smile.

Had a mixed weekend - after a lovely night out with a friend on Friday I had a nasty experience on the way home when I hit and killed a deer sad. I damaged my car and ended up having to phone the police (who were brilliant) because I couldn't see the deer or what had happened to my car in the pitch dark. All a bit scary.

Sunday was fun - Ben & Holly Live and then an afternoon at the pub - but then rounded off with the bedtime from hell where both my boys turned into spoilt little brats and dh and me lost the plot hmm.

Ho hum.

Gig, hope MRI went ok and not too stressful for you x

Hope everyone else ok. Off to make tea smile.

disguisedeb Mon 12-Nov-12 23:30:03

Gig, how did mri go?

Gigondas Tue 13-Nov-12 06:43:20

Don't have results yet (next week) but was ok - although am really stiff this morning which may be cos I had to lie on an uncomfortable bed for 40 minutes. I was quite proud of myself as find scans quite stressful but coped ok with this one.

also did a blood test which showed my anaemia getting better smile.

Then came home to big gig acting up hmm but on the plus side , she is playing really nicely with mini gig some of the time and mini gig calls for her. This is great news as we had a jealous phase for a while.

KnittingChristmas Fri 16-Nov-12 19:47:25

Glad you were ok with the MRI Gig smile.

Where is everyone?

LaGuerta Fri 16-Nov-12 20:25:09

I am here, and just tucking into a G&T and some crisps whilst I await the return of DH from Cornwall where he has been for much of the week. I am just a little be tired after a spot of single parenting. Early starts, broken cots, poos in the bath, temperatures, etc etc.

Having said all that I have had a really good week. I really like living here, and I am enjoying watching Autumn turn into Winter. I finally got around to erecting the substantial hmm <gee thanks> bird feeder that my parents bought me for my birthday back in May. It has to be the least squirrel-proof bird feeder ever. This morning I realised that the door on the suet cake feeder was open, the suet cake was gone, and there was no sign of any remnants on the ground shock. Somewhere in the woods near our garden there must be a squirrel with a very poorly tummy. Aside from a great many great tits and blue tits, a greater spotted woodpecker and a jay have visited though which is lovely.

I had DS1's first (single) parents evening this week. All is well there which was as I expected/hoped. Apparently DS is one of the few children whose parents aren't being told that their child needs to listen more carefully. I think this was the only distinguishing element of what she said about him vs. what other parents have been told about their child.

Tomorrow I am away for one night. At the age of 35 I am going youth hostelling with my uni friends. This is a bid to see each other without children in tow, but not spend a fortune on a hotel. All fair enough, but I am a bit hmm about a packed lunch outside tomorrow. So, if it is raining tomorrow, do think of me tramping across Salisbury Plain with a soggy ham sandwich.

ChristmasCountdown Fri 16-Nov-12 20:46:50

I'm here! Been meaning to post properly all week. Glad the MRI experience was ok Gig, do let us know when you get the results.

Glad parents evening went well LaG. We enrolled DS in school this week, but won't find out until April if he has a place. Panicking slightly - there are loads of P1 place issues here. It's the catchment catholic school, but if he doesn't get in he'd get placed in the other dreadful catchment school.

Not much to report, work good and loving that I don't have to study! grin DS (mostly) fine. I baked my first ever Christmas cake this week grin Hoping it will be ok - I don't actually like fruit cake, but I found a recipe with good flexibility in choosing ingredients, so stuck to dried fruit I like (cranberry, apricot and mixed peel) and used amaretto instead of the usual mixed fruit and brandy. Fingers crossed it turns out ok. Not sure whether to feed it with amaretto or not - might be a bit sweet.

ChristmasCountdown Fri 16-Nov-12 20:47:47

Posted too soon! Hope you have a good night tomo LaG and that the weather is kind!!

Love your name Knitting grin

LaGuerta Mon 19-Nov-12 18:07:14

Good weekend as it turned out. I'm such a grump! Good long walks in glorious sunshine and lots of chatting. Even the packed lunch was scenic with views of Salisbury Cathedral.

How was everyone else's weekends?

ChristmasCountdown Tue 20-Nov-12 13:42:43

Glad you had a good weekend LaG. Not much to report here on the weekend except I did a lot of cooking in my new super-sized slow cooker!

LaGuerta Tue 20-Nov-12 14:10:29

Impressive stuff. Although I would like to know how you can make a bolognaise festive?

Anyone been lurking on the Amazon black Friday deals? I just bought a pair of Fly London boots for £45, RRP £145 grin. I'm not especially impulsive normally blush.

ChristmasCountdown Tue 20-Nov-12 17:04:09

grin It's not especially festive, but we have got family staying on 26th/27th so I wanted to have the meals prepared in the freezer. DH and I always plan to make stuff ahead when we're entertaining but never quite manage it and I'm determined to make Christmas stress-free as it can be with family

ChristmasCountdown Tue 20-Nov-12 17:04:57

Ooh, well done on the boots - I fancied a Wii, but too busy at work at the time it was on!

Gigondas Wed 21-Nov-12 11:00:49

Marking spot- scan was ok grin showed that was damage from op/radiotherapy so need physio. Done in as mini gig up at 4 (and had been on and off for a few days) and big gig has a fever.

But ok aside from that. Am ignoring Xmas as in a stand off about who has mil which is complicated by fact she doesn't want to stay and the fore that involves 7 hours of driving to collect etc. I am a bit angryhmm that bil thinks its our turn not so much for me (although as knittjng said has the fact I have spent most of this year in and out of hospital escaped him) but driving will fall to dh and he is knackered. Bil also conveniently forgetting that we hosted mil for about 3 years in succession but apparently it's now our turn. However he is a bit thick narrow minded (and also had no kids and doesn't drink ) so implications of spending the thick part of Xmas day driving passes him by. Rant over wink

ChristmasCountdown Thu 22-Nov-12 13:32:28

Really glad to hear that the scan results were ok Gig grin

sad that you've got this Christmas issue again. I remember it coming up before. I think your DH is well within his rights to remind BIL that you've all had a tough year and put his foot down. After everything you've all been through, a lovely family Christmas is the very least you deserve without the hassle of 7 hours of driving.

disguisedeb Thu 22-Nov-12 19:20:38

Hi all, just back in from doing my parents evening, 2.00-6.45 sooo tired now. NIgel's just bringing me a chip butty smile glad scan went ok Gig, sorry to hear about christas hassles yet again

Gigondas Thu 22-Nov-12 20:54:45

Hope some wine with it deb. My mum always insisted after parents evenjng.

Yes pleased about scan and have scary/experienced physio so am seeing them Monday. I will be six million dollar (or more like £2.99) come the new year wink.

Yep christmas it's time of year for coke adverts / my mil to kick off. We are just ignoring things and going are own way.

Had lovely lunch and gossip with knitting today.

disguisedeb Sat 24-Nov-12 22:48:14

Could I just come and be a proud Mum, Ethan's been cast as Joseph in the nativity! Apparently he's been promoted from a wise man to the role of Joseph as his friend got stage fright, so the words have been dramatically shortened adapted for Ethan. He has to say " Look at the star" which will take some working on smile

disguisedeb Mon 26-Nov-12 23:25:45

boo hoo, I've been outcast, I have killed the thread

Gigondas Tue 27-Nov-12 06:13:00

grin it's cos of your stealth boasting wink.

Been too tired as mini gig teething/cold has led to some disturbed nights . Big gig also being very challenging- answering back , tears about nothing, whinging. I think it's age/school (friend has same issue with her kid) but it is very wearing being strict . Not doing this on everything but the cheek/lashing out and messing around with food can't be ignored.

looks like my mil seems to be accepting that she can comes for Xmas but needs to stay( which means at the minute doesn't want to come)- let's hope bil doesn't stir it up ( this is childless/slightly dopey bil who has no concept that doing hours of driving on Xmas day is not really great ESP when you have small kids).

going to sort out my Xmas cooking Today inspired by Christmascountdown. I saw physio yesterday and basically I need intense and apparently painful (!) physio to stretch and strengthen my leg. I don't mind if this helps things (which it should).

ChristmasCountdown Tue 27-Nov-12 12:18:55

Aw, that's lovely Deb! Well done Ethan. No nativity at DS's nursery this year sad

Sorry to hear about challenges with Big Gig, Gig. Completely agree that you need to be consistent in dealing with things that are 'dealbreakers' e.g. answering back. I'm sure it's an age thing - similar issues here, but we seem to have moved on a bit from it. We're constantly getting 'but, Mummy...' whenever he's asked to do something now. I feel like I sound like my mum 'but nothing,...' grin

Glad I've inspired some Christmas cooking! I have been very busy filling my freezer. Meals, soup, mince pies and biscuits all done! Lots more to do though - I'm trying to do as much as possible to maximise relaxing time over Christmas.

How is everyone else?

disguisedeb Wed 28-Nov-12 23:00:45

I've spotted some writing on FB again !!

Gigondas Thu 29-Nov-12 07:10:53

I know! Shall I take a photo of sulking big gig and put that on fb to redress the balance?

ChristmasCountdown Thu 29-Nov-12 07:16:37

Someone proclaiming their child's genius status again? grin

Gigondas Thu 29-Nov-12 07:58:44

How did you guess? No genius here- just spent 20 minutes nagging cajoling big gig to get dressed.

ChristmasCountdown Thu 29-Nov-12 18:51:52

No genius here either, but a very sensitive boy. When asked if he wanted to help his teacher find out who had taken his shoes by mistake, DS thought they might be embarrassed if he was there so suggested it would be better for the teacher to do it grin

ChristmasCountdown Fri 30-Nov-12 12:53:15


disguisedeb Fri 30-Nov-12 17:01:54


Gigondas Fri 30-Nov-12 17:21:32

?? You marking your place?

ChristmasCountdown Sat 01-Dec-12 11:07:21

Are you on a MN app Gig? I posted a Scottish smiley (on account of being my nation's representative here) which aren't showing up on apps. I can't see anything on my post or Deb's from the iPhone app, so I'm guessing Deb might have posted a Scottish smiley too.

Gigondas Sat 01-Dec-12 12:01:59

Yes I am which explains why I can't see it. Also the wine emoticon looks like a Martini glass.

Pass the brew- mini up until past 1am today. Dh cross as dented car (was tired , mini screaming Etc) and we are off to The pottery cafe later hmm.

KnittingChristmas Sat 01-Dec-12 19:54:54

Hi all, Happy St Andrews Day for yesterday Christmas grin!

Deb, you must be v proud of E grin.

Hello to everyone else - house a tip so off to do massive tidy!

ChristmasCountdown Sun 02-Dec-12 17:22:16

'tis the season to be jolly tea-la-la-la grin (<- there's a Christmas smiley there for anyone on their phone/ipad).

ChristmasCountdown Sun 02-Dec-12 17:22:47

Oh, and that should say 'tra-la' not tea!

KnittingChristmas Mon 03-Dec-12 08:24:44

I can see Xmas smiley on my iPhone grin

Gigondas Mon 03-Dec-12 08:28:49

I can't sad- also have to look really carefully at what the faces are doing as can look quite similar.

We saw Santa this weekend- mini gig not impressed as she prefers reindeer.

ChristmasCountdown Mon 03-Dec-12 12:56:21

I can't - are you on mobile site or an app Knitting?

Have just collected Christmas tree grin

KnittingChristmas Mon 03-Dec-12 14:40:46

How strange - think I'm on mobile site, not app, but then it could be either given my level of techy know how! grin

Our Christmas tree went up on Friday grin, first time ever in November blush.

Just been in to help in DS1's classroom - now I know who all the naughty children are wink.

ChristmasCountdown Mon 03-Dec-12 20:08:12

I can't believe someone else beat me to getting my tree up grin Delighted to have ours up now.

You must be on the mobile site Knitting - they've updated the apps and there are loads of problems with them, including not seeing seasonal smileys.

Agree Gig - I don't like the app versions either. Why they didn't stick with the regular ones I don't know. That's a shame big Gig didn't like Santa. I haven't thought about going to see Santa this year actually. We're off to a Christmas fair one day so I'm sure he'll be there.

LaGuerta Wed 05-Dec-12 21:23:04

I've been absent for too long. Kind of distracted by kitchen planning, and Christmas planning. All good though. smile

Gigondas Sat 08-Dec-12 07:24:33

Glad to hear it smile. Just about done on Christmas shopping but lots of other stuff to do- like cooking.
Big gig had an open day yesterday so read a bit of a poem and did some singing - she was very pleased with herself. Am hoping teething hell is ending for time being as have had some disturbed nights.
Big gig also had her repeat hearing test - she has conductive hearing loss in one ear (basically blocked ears) so it's ear drops every night.

ChristmasCountdown Wed 12-Dec-12 13:20:29

Ooh, it's quiet here of late - you're all doing the Christmas stuff I started ages ago aren't you wink

How is big gig getting on with the drops Gig? Sorry to hear of teething woes - hope it ends soon for you. Lovely photos on fb this week from the christening.

Not much to report on here - gearing up for Christmas obviously. DS got his new bed finally and <touches wood> has been sleeping really well in. I should have got him one years ago!

How are the kitchen plans coming along LaG? I would love to put a new kitchen in our house, but not really worth it. House move plans are definitely on hold for a couple of years, but I don't want to spend any more money on the current house unless we really need to.

KnittingChristmas Wed 12-Dec-12 17:30:46

<waves> smile

Had a fab time at the christening on Sunday but otherwise it's all Christmas, Christmas, Christmas grin.

Yay for the improved sleeping!

Hi to everyone else x

disguisedeb Fri 14-Dec-12 23:47:02

Oh yes, that's me, the one still buying Christmas presents in December wink

Busy here with Christmas festivities, performances, concerts and trips out at my school, Ethan and Tristan';s school and Stefan and Lisa's. Mum coming tomorrow for weekend and to see Ethan in nativity.Was so proud of my class doing their nativity, it went really well despite the donkey losing her tail in one performance and the same donkey dropping to sleep in the evening performance!

LaGuerta Sat 15-Dec-12 10:11:16


Your nativity sounds lovely Deb. DS was A shepherd in a mass cast of 90. Lovely singing though, and DH actually made it which means alot.

Kitchen plans are coming together. Chosen layout, units, builder lined up. Just need to finalise exact cupboard types which is a bit dizzying with the number of options. Then we can order the units.

I am wishing I wasn't trying to do this in December. I have ordered a turkey and the veg, I have one or two presents but I don't really know what to get the boys for their main presents. confused DS1 wants a robot which do exist but not how I think he is imagining them. No good ideas for ds2. Maybe a toy pushchair, maybe some Octonauts tat?confusedconfused

Feeling somewhat hmm with DF again. The detail is too tedious to bore you with. I am trying to dig deep within myself to host a jolly and generous Christmas. Both sets of GPs for 4+ days. hmm I will let you know how it goes.

Better go, I am meant to be in the shower but somehow climbed back into bed with a coffee blush <ostrich>

ChristmasCountdown Sat 15-Dec-12 13:46:54

Quick post for LaG - DS has most of the Octonauts toys courtesy of various relatives and compared to most of the tv character toys I've seen they're pretty good quality. DS spent half an hour in the bath this morning sorting out some crisis in the coral reef grin with his Gups. I got a tub of sea stuff for him cheap on Amazon which has fish, plants etc which are good for Octonauts adventures! Must dash now though - family party to go to!

LaGuerta Sat 15-Dec-12 17:28:43

Thanks CCountdown. They have both really like playing with it at other peoples' houses. I know that DS1 would like it too which puts me in a dilemma about fairness. They share pretty well though.

KnittingChristmas Sun 16-Dec-12 18:11:54

Another vote for Octonaut toys - the boys never got into it enough to get the toys but have often played with them at friends' houses and they always seem to be popular.

Good luck on the kitchen!

DS1 was a reindeer in his school play and had to say "Can I be Rudolph?" grin

DS2 has a Christmas sing song on Tuesday which parents are attending - all the children got to choose a festive song. DS2's choice? The Fireman Sam theme song grin hmm. Wouldn't miss it for the world!

LaGuerta Mon 17-Dec-12 23:18:12

Hmm, DH not keen on Octonauts toys. He thinks extra duplo which is fine too.

I am making some progress on my various jobs. The Christmas cards are finally written. The kitchen is specified apart from appliances. I have announced publicly that that I will not be writing 29 cards on behalf of DS1 to his classmates. There seems to be quite a culture of doing this here with some Mums egging each other into it hmm. Instead we have made one for the whole class. Will post this masterpiece on FB.

Just having a wee glad of port before bed to celebrate.

Toddler carols in the morning. I think it will be fun/bonkers.

KnittingChristmas Wed 19-Dec-12 08:14:21

Totally agree with you about 29 cards! DS1 had his class list and it was made quite clear he would be writing his name on every one, so he picked 9 grin!

Last day of work before Christmas - I better go in I suppose! grin

LaGuerta Wed 19-Dec-12 14:00:35

Is this your last day of work full stop? <eek>

I have just caught myself googling for ski holiday deals for the first time this winter. Clearly my typing fingers think I need a holiday. I could happily sod off for Christmas right now to a mountain or a beach or anywhere.

KnittingChristmas Wed 19-Dec-12 18:39:55

Unfortunately not! grin I finish "for good" on 31st January - but already have a Moonwalk to train for, a charity cook book to edit and a free school to help set up, so don't think I'll be bored grin grin grin!

Anyone else's kids beyond tired now? The boys are soooo exhausted - especially DS1. One of his friends, in his mum's infinite wisdom, has booked a birthday party for 3.30pm on Friday shock! Friday bed time is going to be fun hmm.

So looking forward to Christmas - and did I tell anyone we're off to a hotel for the weekend between xmas and New Year without the kids? grin I might be mentioning it a few times between now and then grin wink!

Nearly bedtime, then an evening to myself while dh is on the piss!

LaGuerta Wed 19-Dec-12 20:28:28

DS1 is pretty wrecked too. Abated slightly by a 2.5 hour sleep on Sunday afternoon. Back to sq 1 after a bad night (nightmares) on Monday night. They were in bed at 6.55 tonight. Mostly for my benefit as DH away tonight.

Excuse me, but aren't you ideologically opposed to free schools? wink

Yum - I am watching last night's GBBO Xmas special on iplayer which is FORCING me to eat the pannetone that I bought in M&S this morning (plus the obligatory glass of port).

Lots of things I could be doing (wrapping, ironing, constructing a guest bed), but I can't be arsed. wink

KnittingChristmas Wed 19-Dec-12 20:42:57

grin - I am completely opposed to free schools but sadly we have a massive problem with primary school places here and the govt won't let the council do anything about it, they have to open a free school hmm. The school in question has one other teacher on the board who is secondary trained and no one with any knowledge of SEN. At the end of the day, the school is going to open whether I agree with it or not, and I would rather know that they are going to cater for SEN kids than not. It's been an eye opening experience I can tell you!

I'm watching Snow Babies - too cute smile.

LaGuerta Wed 19-Dec-12 22:32:15

Aha - I am relieved to I know that my assumptions about your likely views are correct. I completely understand why you want to be involved though. Before they announced that they were increasing places at the village school here, I joked that my first job upon moving in would be to set up a free school. Thankfully no longer required.

KnittingChristmas Wed 19-Dec-12 22:44:20


It's a crazy situation - the council are currently in a stand off with the free school group about the location of the school because the free school don't want their school to be in the chosen council location!]

We also have a free school at secondary level too which has completely screwed up the council's education planning for the next two decades hmm and is in entirely the wrong place.

Gove is a twunt it has to be said!

KnittingChristmas Wed 19-Dec-12 22:46:21

Just got an email through from MIL - dh's grandad is seriously ill in hospital sad. Looks like he may not make his 95th after all.

LaGuerta Thu 20-Dec-12 13:43:44

sad when is he going to be 95?

KeepCalmAndHaveAnotherMincePie Thu 20-Dec-12 18:04:02

Thought I'd revert to an old Christmassy name given that the countdown is nearly over. And this name is more appropriate given my current mobility issues!!!! (See fb for details).

Sorry to hear about your DH's grandad Knitting sad Are you able to go see him?

Cards - DS sent four. He got quite a few more than that back, so I feel a bit bad but it's a nightmare getting him to sit and write his name for any length of time. He finished nursery today, so no chance to hand out any more.

KnittingChristmas Thu 20-Dec-12 18:15:56

His birthday is 19th January - we have a big family party planned. He seems a little brighter today so the ABs must be kicking in. Hard to know whether this is what he wants tbh - he has mentioned a few times now that his wife is calling to him sad.

KeepCalm - you poor thing! Hope ankle doesn't take too long to heal - if it is not healing properly get referred to physio. I had extensive physio when tore the ligament in my ankle 10 years ago and it was very useful in regaining good mobility.

KnittingChristmas Thu 20-Dec-12 18:17:06

KeepCalm, we'll be heading to the west country on the 27th Dec so can visit then. Not sure it would be practical to get down before then with the boys if he's in hospital. Will see what the in laws say.

Gigondas Thu 20-Dec-12 20:07:19

Oh no knitting- hope it is just an infection making him delirious. Poor man.

Yes to kids (and me- mini gig is night waking again) being beyond tired. Big gig also seem to have a cold so has been whining a lot. So been keeping everything low key.

Xmas- boo about the ankle. Echo what knitting says about physio as just a couple of sessions has improved my leg .

Gbbo was good wasn't it lag? I know what you mean about not being arsed- I made a tactical error of cheap paper and Sellotape for wrapping.

Going to do some cooking and finish up wrapping tomorrow provided big gig not too whiny.

As for free school, we have the debacle of a sodding catholic secondary school when it's perfectly obvious we need an non select school. Gove and the local council shoved it thru against opposition.

KnittingChristmas Thu 20-Dec-12 20:27:12

If this local free school had been a faith school there's no bloody way I would have supported it!

So looks like you have a challenge to open a free school at secondary level then Gig? grin

Will reply to your text in a min - had the most mentally busy day! blush

KnittingChristmas Fri 21-Dec-12 19:05:44

Is no one coming back til the New Year?? grin

Gigondas Fri 21-Dec-12 19:07:30

What to this thread? grin

KnittingChristmas Fri 21-Dec-12 19:08:40

grin yes! what did you think I meant?! grin

Gigondas Fri 21-Dec-12 19:19:33

God knows grin. I blame your amazing non sleeping god child wink

KnittingChristmas Fri 21-Dec-12 21:02:57

Oh dear, do I need to be having stern words?! grin

LaGuerta Fri 21-Dec-12 21:10:36

I'm present Miss!

Shock news from ChezLaGuerta....

....DH's first day of holiday today and he is ill! I am sure non of you can believe it. It's not as though this has ever happened before. The trots mainly, the boys have been much the same this week. DS1 similarly has finished school and collapsed in an exhausted heap. DS2 ok just finding some very naughty things to do.

The happier news is that we have ordered the kitchen today <gulp>

KeepCalmAndHaveAnotherMincePie Fri 21-Dec-12 21:34:47

<hobbles in>

disguisedeb Sat 22-Dec-12 09:39:21

I'm here and amazed that I made it through a whole term grin

Ethan very tired too, but looking very sweet waiting by the side of me for me to stop my work and play a game where he can rescue me. Bigones are packing poor shoppers bags in Morrisons this morning for scouts.

Sorry to hear about poorly ankle, poorly (no surprise there) husbands, and poorly Grandad

Must go, guestsd arriving later, my Bday tomorrow, Christmas and then Lisa's 18th on Boxing day.

Just in case I don't reappear, have a lovely Christmas everyone

KnittingChristmas Sat 22-Dec-12 18:03:25

Oh no LG!! shock You need to dose that man up on his multi vits girl!

Yay on the kitchen smile! When's it being installed?

And double yay for Deb surviving a term grin. And Happy Birthday for tomorrow!

GGD still very poorly - has been moved to a ward but has not spoken all day today which I'm guessing is not a good sign sad. On a purely selfish moment (and shoot me, I know AIBU sad), we're not going to get our weekend away now sad. Disappointed but trying to put it into a perspective.

KeepCalm, how's the hobbling?

Do check out my run in with a SMOG today - struggled not to hit her hmm. I know LG has already seen it grin.

KeepCalmAndHaveAnotherMincePie Sun 23-Dec-12 00:28:21

I saw, and replied to your post, on fb Knitting, and am completely with you on how society treats boys, but I'm curious as to how and why it changes when boys become men. It's interesting how society treats gender. I haven't watched Strictly, but I caught the results tonight and as far as I can see Denise van Outen has been subject to a fair bit of vitriol throughout the contest because she's been in the West End etc, but the winner of the popular vote is a gymnast, so would have a serious advantage because of flexibility, upper body strength etc, but hasn't been treated badly by the media?

That aside, ankle is much better thanks! Hope everyone has a lovely Christmas! X

KnittingChristmas Sun 23-Dec-12 10:13:30

I agree with you KeepCalm, although being a gymnast doesn't necessarily mean you can dance and he had a fair few ropey weeks. Denise didn't do herself any favours with the (largely female) voters IMO by being a bit desperate and dramatic about it all. I agree men generally still have an easier time than women in lots of ways but raising girls the way society is at the moment is only going to make that worse sad.

Christmas is going to be subdued this year - Matt's grandad died this morning sad.

LaGuerta Sun 23-Dec-12 12:26:44

I'm sorry to hear that Knitting. Hope you will all be able to celebrate the good times you had with him in some way.

I haven't seen the result show for strictly yet. Planning to watch with DS1 later. Doh! wink

Seriously though, I am getting increasingly interested and concerned about attitudes towards male children. I have got to the point of considering whether to set up a blog on it, or look into studying the subject academically. I'm not posting all the "incidents" on this thread anymore as I feel like a bore, that's how numerous they are.

Christmas all going swimmingly well here wink. DH is off the sofa and semi-functioning. For eg, he got up earlier with the boys this morning. During that time the dishwasher wasn't emptied or reloaded but he did move the big telly into the main lounge, and then collapsed onto the sofa again. Male priorities I guess. PIL arriving this afternoon, and then my parents tomorrow. House is 50% clean. I have constructed the newly purchased guest bed. We have a tree. No-one will starve. These are all positives to focus upon.

KnittingChristmas Sun 23-Dec-12 13:13:06

Oops! Sorry LG blush.

Dh is sad but aware that its "probably for the best". DS1 is now asking endless questions which are not easy to answer sad.

I think study/blog sounds a great idea - I find it fascinating. Not just the demonisation of boys but also the awful gender stereotyping of childhood. Off for Xmas drinks this afternoon with another mum of two boys (DS1's best friend) so will report back on the awfulness smile. These are fab parents - DS1 announced to me yesterday that "did you know boys can marry boys and girls can marry girls"! I agreed and asked him who told him that and he told me it was his best friend grin. He has gay godparents apparently!

Glad your dh has managed to move the telly - essential Xmas preparation wink.

KeepCalmAndHaveAnotherMincePie Sun 23-Dec-12 14:31:40

I'm so sorry Knitting. <hugs>

And sorry for spoiling Strictly final LaG blush

Gender stereotyping stuff is really interesting. I completely hear you Knitting about gymnastics doesn't necessarily make you a good dancer, but on the 10 minutes I saw of the show (expert that I am grin), I saw him doing back flips, and jumps with the splits etc - all of which his 'day job' would help with, but I never read anything about that in the tabloids. The DVO reports were relentless. I don't know how she came across on the show about it, but I think the media coverage would have upset anyone.

Anyway, I was very tipsy when I posted last night so I'm impressed it was vaguely coherent! I'm also impressed I managed to ponder when and why society views males more favourably once they're adults and would be curious to know whether attitudes towards male children have/are changing and what impact that might have on how men are viewed later.

I really should get on with Christmas stuff. Am feeling very stressed about it. Despite all my Christmas prep, my ankle issues buggered everything up and now I have loads to do. Poor DS has been terribly neglected over the weekend while DH and I try and get everything done and been a bit sad so I feel massively guilty. I've cut back my expectations on what we can achieve, but I still have a houseful coming on Boxing Day so it's not like I can just think 'fuck it' to all the housework!

Gig - how is your Christmas panning out with MIL?

Well done on surviving the term Deb and I hope you're having a lovely birthday today!

Gigondas Sun 23-Dec-12 20:10:33

Knitting so sorry about dh grandad- sad even if not a complete shock.

I can share some of your concern about gender stereotyping as you get some nonsense about girls. The whole pink stinks thing for a start so I definitely think there is mileage in a study lag.

Yes we have dodged mil- saw her today. On a more sobering note, she is definitely getting more confused and Without tmi seems to be losing it in other ways as is generally less able to take Care of herself.

At risk of no sympathy from lag (who has had this issue before), mini gig doing the early waking as hungry thing so dh and I somewhat tired.

Keepcalm - my best plans are not going to plan as I have felt so tired! So I am also playing catch up (and know I am getting very shouty with big gig).

Right wine and midsomer murders await and maybe at some point knitting littlest god daughter might sleep before her parents break wink.

LaGuerta Mon 24-Dec-12 06:28:31

Of course you have sympathy on sleep issues. DS2 as a Christmas gift to us has taken to waking with a poo at 5.20 for the last 3 mornings.

Sorry that MIL doesn't seem to be so well. Such a hard thing for families cope with.

Thanks for the encouragement on the blog / study idea. It cuts both ways. I have seen the Punk Stinks campaign, and Let toys be toys one too. Yet so many people are so unthinking in that they give their children.

Right, Christmas Eve beckons. Today we really will get DS2 a present blush

LaGuerta Mon 24-Dec-12 06:29:33

Oh and have a wonderful Christmas everyone if I don't get back on. smile

disguisedeb Fri 28-Dec-12 19:20:13

Hope you've all had a great Christmas, we have. Big wooden rescue centre from elc for Ethan was a big hit. Plastic Mike the knight castle Mum got him remains untouched! So many new dressing up outfits that he had a day off today, must be the 1st day he hasn't dressed up in about a year ( and I'm not exaggerating)

Lisa enjoyed her first English Christmas, and her 18th and now she's having a holiday in Germany. We're missing her.

Stefan seemed to get lots of smelly stuff and walks around smelling like a Lynx advert. Tristan got a bass guitar!

Anyone got any old school shoes size 10G? Bought some in the sale without Ethan and of course they're too small, so went to local shop, not his size and online they haven't got the same school shoes in the sale sad

disguisedeb Sat 29-Dec-12 18:00:15

shoes sorted, ordered clarks online from brantano, 2nd pair half price and 7% cashback

all alone overnight as persuaded NIgel to take his muym back with boys so I have time to concentrate on school work. No interruptions, what shall I have for tea?I don't remember the last time I was alone in the house and never overnight. Shame I've got my work to do!!

KnittingChristmas Sat 29-Dec-12 18:25:04

Hi all, we're home smile.

A bit of a sombre Christmas at the in laws (went down Boxing Day) because of Grampy's death. DS1 has been needing a lot of reassurance and FIL was, understandably, very flat. I think having his grandsons around helped, but he also spent a lot of time on the phone to officials, friends and family doing all the sorting out required sad.

Deb, your Christmas sounds lovely and boooo about being home alone but having to work! E has exactly the same size feet as DS1 grin. Biggest hits in our house were the dolls' house, remote controlled cars and lego! grin at the Lynx - I was having a conversation only this morning with dh's old headmaster (and family friend!) about boys and their personal grooming habits grin.

KeepCalm, I didn't really see the media coverage of the SCD/DvO thing as it wasn't covered in The Guardian grin wink but I agree with you about the complete double standards towards men and women on a lot of these things - and more generally. One of the things that always drives me mad is the amount of importance given to personal appearance of any woman who appears in the media, e.g. blonde divorcee 33, appeared in court today alongside her ex-husband hmm.

Anyway, looking forward to a quiet evening tonight - going to watch the Olympic superstars thing in a minute and then some House this evening before falling into our own bed smile.

Hope all of you are enjoying Christmas x

Gigondas Sat 29-Dec-12 20:54:23

Nice that you are home but am sorry that ds1 upset knitting.

deb enjoy the time out even if you have got work to dosmile.

Am in France and having a great time (had a brilliant Xmas day at home as got the family oddities out the way beforehand. Mil was ok but confused, god knows what is going on with my step dad but is clearly in a huff as didnt come to visit with my mum).

Hits of Xmas were some eggs with chicks in that cluck for mini gig and the playmobil swimming pool forbig gig (I did get fed up trying to make playmobil and cook Xmas lunch tho).

Off for night away in a castle with a lovely restaurant In champagne tomorrow- am very excited .

DomesticCEO Sat 29-Dec-12 20:57:59

Wow! Sounds lovely Gig, have fun grin

(it's knitting with a new name, btw grin)

Gigondas Sat 29-Dec-12 21:05:28

grin Great name- I like my old name too much to change.

DomesticCEO Sat 29-Dec-12 21:53:15


disguisedeb Sat 29-Dec-12 22:40:03

domestic sorry it was a sad time this year for your family ,

Gig, have a fantastic time at the castle,sounds wonderful.

disguisedeb Wed 02-Jan-13 23:16:45

Boo hoo, where are you all ?

TheJanuaryProject Thu 03-Jan-13 17:36:51

Happy New Year from Scotland everyone! I hope everyone has had a lovely Christmas and New Year overall, though of course I am sorry that yours has understandably been a bit sombre DomesticCEO (great name). I have changed my name in keeping with my new year resolution which I've named the January Project. First task - to completely re-organise our haphazard home filing system.

We've had a good Christmas here - a few issues but I won't go into details in as they'd all really identify me! DS loved his presents and spending time with his cousins and we squeezed a few nice days out in among the family obligations, ankle mobility issues and the lurgy that descended upon me. Back to work tomorrow though sad. I'm quite excited about the New Year with a significant birthday, some weddings and NO STUDYING! grin

Present hits here included the Batman imaginext stuff, puppets, usbourne 'see inside' books and a Playmobil redcoat ship. I don't think we had any real (excuse the pun) turkeys. What did DS2 get in the end LaG?

How was the Castle Gig? That sounded like a lovely treat. With or without the mini-gigs?

<looks up from wide range of newspapers read in the January household> Domestic, I read that Claire Balding was complaining in the Telegraph wink about the words that are used to describe woman e.g. bossy as opposed to assertive etc. Which I think ties in to what you were saying about appearance etc. I was sharing some of your stories about how families with boys are treated over dinner with friends the other night and they were all appalled.

Deb, I hope you enjoyed your home alone night despite the work. That must have been bliss for you!

TheJanuaryProject Thu 03-Jan-13 17:37:33

Oh, and Deb, the idea of Stefan walking around smelling like a Lynx ad made me chuckle!

DomesticCEO Fri 04-Jan-13 10:24:11

Hi all, you must be wondering what to do with your time with no studying JP?! grin

We had remote controlled cars (hardly played with since Boxing Day hmm), playmobil and lego mainly - the last two have been big hits as always. Oh, and a dolls' house which is being turned into a fire station as I type!

Off to the panto this afternoon - I know, I know, but we were offered cheap tickets by the Scouts and I couldn't say no blush. Wish me luck!

LaGuerta Fri 04-Jan-13 16:03:39

Hello and Happy New Year!

Phew, I kind of need a holiday after Christmas. It was intense but got through it without throwing my toys out of the pram (just).

No holidays for us though as we have the builders starting on the new kitchen a week on Monday. I am panicking a bit about having to live off a microwave and hot plate upstairs for a minimum of 5 weeks but inevitably longer.

DS1 is currently watching Jason and the Argonauts and is firing lots of questions about it at me which I am unable to answer. Better go and pay some attention.

DomesticCEO Fri 04-Jan-13 18:45:15

How exciting LG grin - hope you're taking lots of before and after pics!!

We might be down your way in Feb half term - is it likely to be finished by then? Won't descend otherwise! Although if you're free you could meet us in Brighton?

DS1 did not have a good night's sleep last night and is currently being utterly foul angry. Dh is now putting him to bed and it's not going well sad. Because of his bad behaviour he missed out on taking the Christmas tree down and is utterly distraught. I feel a bit bad now, but he really has been insufferable today blush.

DomesticCEO Fri 04-Jan-13 18:45:50

Btw, anyone fancy a shiny new thread for 2013? And, if so, any suggestions for thread titles?

TheJanuaryProject Fri 04-Jan-13 21:06:13

envy at the new kitchen LaG. Yes, before and after pics, preferably on fb please grin

How was the panto Domestic? YY, loving the study free time, though lots of sorting out/organising projects to keep me very busy though not tonight as I had a VERY good day at work so celebrating with wine

Sorry DS1 is playing up. It's awful when you have to follow through on withdrawing something you know they'll enjoy but it's the right thing in the long term. Tomorrow is another day.

On the sleep front, DS has been loads better since he got his new bed. Still get the odd night that he gets up etc, and he can still procrastinate for Scotland when it comes to bed time but it feels like we can finally see the light at the end of the tunnel!

Happy to vote for a new thread - no idea of a title though!

DomesticCEO Fri 04-Jan-13 21:54:45

The panto was ok - as you know, it's not really my favourite way to spend an afternoon! grin DS1 loved it, but DS2 was absolutely terrified of the giant and hid under my top every time he appeared/spoke grin hmm.

yay for good sleeping - one of my friend's has just put a night light in her DD's room (she's 16 mths) and she's started sleeping through after being a nightmare sleeper! Her older child has never had a night light so it never occurred to her that this was the problem - children are soooo inconsistent grin.

I hate going to bed on an argument and DS1 was so sad. But even after bad behaviour during the day, being a PITA at dinner time and after, he still pushed his luck by totally refusing to tidy his toys and smirking at dh shock.

Just watching 8 out of 10 Cats does DOND - random! grin

I'm completely devoid of inspiration for thread titles - sorry blush!

LaGuerta Sat 05-Jan-13 11:01:26

Thanks for the heads up on taking pictures. Before pictures have just been taken. I won't put them on fb just yet.

disguisedeb Sat 05-Jan-13 11:51:16

don't know about you lot but after christmas indulgences, I'm after a shiny new flat stomach (Hah!!) that could be our shiny new thread title!!

Glad Christmases all went well, De Christmassing here today and doing the big pine needle clean up, got tree or rather bunch of bare branches out in an old quilt cover to save rest of house.

only 2 more sleeps to go until work again, early mornings and all that stuff, boo hoo!

Lisa back with us after trip to Germany and she's very sad to leave her boyfriend again

Gigondas Sun 06-Jan-13 17:47:04

Hello all- will have a think on new thread title.

I also had to suffer panto domestic but wasn't as bad as I thought. And feel your pain about ds1 as big gig has bEen pushing it at times over holiday and I can feel myself nagging all the time. She also seems never to shut up- it is a school thing I think.

Popular toys here were playmobil for big gig and a Toy badger for mini gig.

Kitchen sounds exciting but I can see how disruptive it will be . Sorry Xmas was tiring- going to France seemed to help that (and castle was lovely).

Back to normal tomorrow- need to get my head round all jobs I didn't do before Xmas and focus on the open uni stuff.

TheJanuaryProject Sun 06-Jan-13 20:01:04

I meant to say LaG - do you have a slow cooker? Could be very handy while the kitchen is getting done?

Gig - what open uni course are you going to do?

Gigondas Sun 06-Jan-13 20:07:48

Slow cooker or electric pressure cooker as can cook everything in one pot.

Post graduate foundation in classics - am having cold feet now as may have bitten off more than I can chew but is only a short course

LaGuerta Mon 07-Jan-13 08:43:08

Haha - the suggestion of a slow cooker has blown Dh's mind grin. So, I know MN loves them, and I remember my mother using one when when I was small, but not producing anything especially nice in it. Would someone care to outline the benefits of a slow cooker over and above two hot plates, and a combi-microwave-grill oven?

Classics at the OU sounds very interesting. Second year Latin was about my limit though. Are you doing the language side as well as culture <much respect either way>.

Inset day today, so enjoying a pj morning and trying to gee myself into taking the boys to Brighton - we never visit.

CEO - if you are down this way do shout, would love to meet you in Brighton at some point. You probably know it better than I do!

TheJanuaryProject Mon 07-Jan-13 08:53:56

I love my slow cooker! Benefits: chuck everything in, dinner ready 4-6 hours later. Over the last few weeks we've had a slow cooker version of nigella's ham, bolognese and beef braised in cranberry/red wine. Our slow cooker is a massive 6.5 litres, so we usually make enough to freeze a few portions too which are very handy for those nights DH and I are both at work.

LaGuerta Mon 07-Jan-13 15:21:30

So you don't need to brown things first? confused I can't see DH going for it as he is now emotionally invested in his hot plate a microwave solution wink

Mixed results from our Brighton trip...

+ves, Found a central, affordable carpark that wasnt a nightmare to drive too. Bought the stuff DSs need, got complimented on boys' behaviour at lunch and their enthusiasm for eating fruit.

-ves, DS1 whined about Millie's cookies all the way round. (To my knowledge he has never had one). He didn't say thank-you for the things I bought him. He had a huge 45 min plus tantrum when I did eventually buy cookies, for not buying the ones on the sticks hmm. This lasted until we got home and then he stopped and asked for a cookie. angry All the cookies are still in the bag until he redeems himself.

TheJanuaryProject Mon 07-Jan-13 15:44:05

No need to brown things (apart from sausages). You can literally chuck stuff in. I love my slow cooker - it's brilliant for batch cooking and having meals in the freezer as well as having a lovely cooked meal waiting for you if you've been out/busy all day. Ours was quite cheap recently, from Argos iirc.

LaGuerta Mon 07-Jan-13 16:27:13

<ponders> thanks Jan

Both boys ate having atrocious moments today. DS1 has improved in the last half hour only for DS2 to step into his shoes.

Early bed I think.

DomesticCEO Mon 07-Jan-13 17:34:27

Oooh yes, slow cookers are AMAZING!

We use ours loads - don't brown anything, even sausages! Meat tastes divine done in the slow cooker and big casseroles and stuff are lovely. Dinner all done and washed up in the morning - plates out and ready to eat at 5.30!

Respect for driving into Brighton - we always take the bus!

Good luck with the course Gig!

Deb, hope kids are all good for you at school grin.

Gigondas Mon 07-Jan-13 18:04:30

Hands lag a wine - big gig similarly ungrateful at times. I blushsadangryabout it. Then can be lovely. Mini is getting super chatty so be warned domestic.

I gave away our slow cooker (it was huge and heavy) but agree it is nice as never had a bad meal in it. Electric pressure cooker does same but you need a science degree to use it.

LaGuerta Mon 07-Jan-13 18:38:21

wine cheers Gig, it's needed. School starts tomorrow <evil cackle>.

So regarding slow cookers, I have had a look and see that they range from £25 for a crockpot to £200 for a Jamie Oliver. They all seem to get very enthusiastic reviews. Any thoughts on which models you would recommend? For something under £40 I think I could purchase without having to lobby DH first. After all, the new kitchen is going to have plenty of storage wink.

I discovered H&M for kids clothes today. The DSs are going to be very colourful as a result. grin Infact, and this is probably no coincidence, I have bought DS2 trousers the same colour as the new kitchen (this colour envy for the base units shock). Gotta love German colour confidence (the kitchen is German too)

Wow - whilst neglecting the boys typing this, DS2 asked to get out of the bath, then sat on the potty which is out mostly as a theatrical prop at the moment, and did a wee and a poo in there for the first time. shock

TheJanuaryProject Mon 07-Jan-13 22:16:47

Ours was just under £40 I think LaG. The key thing for me was to have a high/low/auto setting. Our old one had a timer, which was handy because we could use it on work days, but most casseroles etc can go on auto, so as long as you're not leaving it for more than 6-8 hours it's fine. Ours is a 6.5 ltr one which is great for batch cooking and we can do a decent sized joint in it,but a bit cumbersome to wash by hand (but a dishwasher would get round that).

DomesticCEO Mon 07-Jan-13 22:24:56

Yay for LG's DS2 smile.

No idea how much ours was as it was a gift, but we have 3 settings too.

I've heard good things about H&M clothes too but can't be bothered to go into Reading to shop blush.

TheJanuaryProject Mon 07-Jan-13 22:32:33

Yes, great news on the potty LaG. I've bought DS a few things from H&M. I've found their nicest stuff sells out quite quickly, so it's good to have a rummage early in the season to get the best choice. They have some great l/s t-shirts in plain colours and stripes which are good for layering with short sleeve t-shirts and shirts. Very cheap and wash and wear well. They're online too Domestic!

DomesticCEO Mon 07-Jan-13 22:44:35

Doh! blush

Didn't think of on line! I'm such a Luddite when it comes to clothes shopping - and the boys still get so many hand me downs that I don't have to worry too much!

TheJanuaryProject Mon 07-Jan-13 23:28:51

No hand me downs here sad hence my expert knowledge of shopping for boys clothes! Just don't mention trousers for skinny boys angry


Gigondas Tue 08-Jan-13 07:46:33

H and m stuff is nice - decent quality , well sized so lasts a while and not too girly (obviously that may not be such an issue).

Part of reason I got rid of slow cooker was that it was huge and I couldn't dish wash it. As I am never going to be on the fly lady threads, this put me off using it so I would definitely put size, dishwasher proof and cook settings (all that CEO said). I get round it now by using oven timer and a le creuset dish (having laughed at them for years) but that's no use to you lag.

TheJanuaryProject Tue 08-Jan-13 18:59:10

I have to confess that 6.5 ltrs is probably a bit too big, but a 4/5 ltr one would still feed a family of four with leftovers quite comfortably.

LaGuerta Wed 09-Jan-13 14:48:36

Talking to a friend today who is having her kitchen done. They are doing it with just a microwave. I feel v well equipped now. However she did bulk cook 40 meals for her two kids although she forgot about catering for the grown ups.

TheJanuaryProject Thu 10-Jan-13 18:57:17

Ready meals from m&s and takeaways for them then LaG!

How's everyone's week? I'm shattered after nearly a full week back at work! The Christmas holidays seem a long time ago now...

I have lots to look forward through in the coming months so quite excited about that! Not very impressed with reports of a cold snap coming though...

LaGuerta Thu 10-Jan-13 21:00:12

I am shattered too but don't have work as an excuse. More to do with my children not sleeping very well choosing to appraise me of this repeatedly for the last few nights.

What are you looking forward to?

I am looking forward to getting the kitchen done (obviously), but also hopefully to going skiing in March, as soon as we can leave the house without leaving builders unsupervised. I am toying with the idea of trying camping with the boys this summer. Initially in the back garden. smile

TheJanuaryProject Thu 10-Jan-13 22:02:22

Sorry to hear about the lack of sleep. I'm very sympathetic to people who are sleep deprived because of their children!

Looking forward to birthday parties (mine and friends grin), weddings (home and abroad gringrin), planning trips to visit friends and a summer holiday in France grin. And not studying gringringrin.

Skiing in March sounds fun, though for me, camping is about as appealing as panto is for Domestc wink. I know lots of people love it though, and it's exciting for kids.

TheJanuaryProject Mon 14-Jan-13 13:48:44

<looks in>

Gigondas Mon 14-Jan-13 19:12:42

Waves lethargically at January. Can I just say that as someone who hates panto and camping - have done both in lat two years and they weren't that bad.

Mini gig is one on Saturday so getting ready for that. Also got next check up so fingers and these crossed that can escape treatment for another few months. Can't think much beyond that which is in a week.

Disappointment at lack of snow from big gig.

TheJanuaryProject Mon 14-Jan-13 22:15:58

<waves back>

When's your check up Gig? Fingers, toes and everything else crossed for that.

No snow here really; a fair bit fell yesterday, but it didn't lie and we've had none today. I'm very pleased grin

DomesticCEO Mon 14-Jan-13 22:22:50

Hi, I'm here - had a tough few days and feel a bit wrung out. Will try and post tomorrow x

LaGuerta Mon 14-Jan-13 22:39:58


Good wishes and positive vibes for the next set of tests Gig.

Sorry that you have had a rought time CEO. I assume I know why from your FB timeline. sad

The builders started today. They have knocked down alot of my house shock. There is now a significant pile of rubble in the front garden. Apart from one alarming moment when the floor under my feet started flexing I think it is going ok.

The other drama was DH dropping DS2 from his shoulders onto the floor on his head in the co-op on Saturday. DS2 had a bump and cried alot but was fine eventually. Now if you say to DS2, "Is there a bump?" he points to where is was and says, "Daddy." Needless to say, words were exchanged between DH and I on the matter. angry

TheJanuaryProject Mon 14-Jan-13 22:59:40

hmm CEO.

Poor DS, LaG. He must have got a fright!

DomesticCEO Tue 15-Jan-13 12:46:09

You're right LG sad.

Did you mean to give me a hmm JP?? blush

Can't wait to see pics of the house LG - or house itself once finished!! shock at the dropping incident - it always scares me when I or dh have DS2 on our shoulders, especially as he's such a wriggler blush. Glad it was all ok - that's a long way to fall!!

Supposed to be finishing work in 2 1/2 weeks but my boss sidled up to me today and asked me if I was interested in doing some consultancy grin. If it's proper consultancy with proper consultancy rates then I'd be mad to turn it down tbh. Bugger!

Oh and DB has set a date for his wedding, which is very excited smile.

TheJanuaryProject Tue 15-Jan-13 12:49:57

No, not at all CEO!!!! I meant to give you a supportive sad. So sorry, the emoticons on the iphone app are very hard to see properly!!!

On the job, proper consultancy, with proper rates AND hours to suit you would be a bit of a winner, no?

DomesticCEO Tue 15-Jan-13 13:19:54

It would JP, but proper sitting around on my arse doing nothing all day for 3 days a week, interspersed with proper lunches would also be a winner grin wink!

The money would be great but the work is hard (and only going to get harder) but I'll have a chat with the bosses tomorrow and see what they want to do.

I had moved on in my mind, so it's hard to readjust back into the thought of working again! blush

TheJanuaryProject Tue 15-Jan-13 13:22:24

I can completely see where you are coming from!

DomesticCEO Tue 15-Jan-13 20:17:53


the temptation to say no is huge, but the words "gift" and "horse" spring to mind grin

LaGuerta Tue 15-Jan-13 22:01:48

Hmm, tricky one CEO. Do you actually enjoy the work? I wasn't too sure that you were last time we spoke.

I saw a job advertised last week that I semi considered applying for. I am not in a position to do so (no up to date cv for starters). I am also not convinced that it is what I would like to do, or how the logistics would work, but I am definitely toying with the idea of WOHM which is significant if only because I haven't been toying with it for most of the last four and a half years.

We now have a 3 foot crater at one end of our kitchen. Not sure why they have chosen to dig so deep, but they obviously feel its necessary. All quite exciting still which is good. I feel less stressed now they have started than I have been for the last month.

TheJanuaryProject Fri 18-Jan-13 18:59:01

Are you all sledging somewhere? wink

TheJanuaryProject Fri 18-Jan-13 18:59:53

LaG - how's the kitchen? What's made you think about going back to work?

DomesticCEO Fri 18-Jan-13 19:52:56

Hi guys, yes we were sledging JP grin grin! Photos on FB - had an amazing time smile.

Well job came to nothing which I'm quite relieved about tbh - they were not prepared to offer me consultancy rates, only the crappy rate of pay that I'm on at the moment. Dh was adamant that he felt it wasn't worth it, which helped make my decision easier. He wants me to concentrate on getting my health and fitness back, and he knows I'm also passionate about getting more involved in the hospice.

LG, in answer to your question, no I don't like my job!

Interesting that you're thinking of going back to work - do you think you will or is it just a "thought" at the moment? I have to confess (bad parent alert), I do think I would be considering giving up work again if I had DS2 f/t. The fact that he's at pre-school three days a week now makes my decision so much easier. I'm not very good at f/t parenting and I admire anyone who can do it and remain sane! blush grin

Your kitchen looks dramatic btw! Can't wait to see the final thing smile.

JP, I assume from FB that the big party is this weekend? Hope the weather doesn't prevent anyone from getting there!

TheJanuaryProject Sun 20-Jan-13 23:19:15

Good news on the job front CEO wink

Yes, the big party was this weekend as you may have seen on fb. Had the BEST time. Lots of dancing and drinking and brilliant to get lots of lovely people together. Had quite a lot of drop outs over the last few days, which was a bit stressful, but only two on account of the snow. A number of friends spent a LOT of time at the airport waiting to find out if they were going to fly. I have very lovely friends - it was really good of them. I'm annoyed that I didn't get more photos though; I meant to task someone with doing the rounds with my camera. My dad took most of the pics on facebook, but he kind of only really took pictures of me, the family and a couple of friends that he's met before (at our rather small wedding) so there were loads more people there than the photos suggest.

How was everyone's weekend?

disguisedeb Mon 21-Jan-13 18:40:48

Just had my very 1st snow day as a teacher - grin I'm aching from sledging, pulling sledges, building an igloo (half), snowballing and skiing down the lane by the house.Keeping everything crossed that I get another day tomorrow.Had about 30 cms in total, drifting too, and only 1 land rover has been down our road early this morning, neighbour in her 4WD couldn't get out.Also have to drive high up on a moor road to get to my school.

Domestic - job sounds good but I know exactly how you feel

January - party looked great, lovely dress too

LaG - how's the catering? Did you get the slowcooker

Gig, how was birthday, and when's your check up?

LaGuerta Tue 22-Jan-13 13:14:02

Glad the party was good January, and that people have been enjoying the snow. About 4 inches here and lots of fun had by Ds1 although DS2 gets cold quite quickly so he is only enjoying it in short bursts. Happily though school was open on Monday which makes it easier for me with the builders in.

CEO - glad that the job situation has sorted itself out. I do feel like I go a bit loopy at times being at home, so you aren't on your own there. smile

The job I saw was something that I am qualified for but not passionate about and I think I read it on a day when the idea of having something else to do was pretty appealing. But, you know me too well in that it just a thought really. I rapidly started to think about the logistics of childcare which would be pretty tricky. At the moment I can't really resolve what I should do next: happily commit to SAHM, look for a job, try to do something on my own (hobby, study something, a token mum business). I am having too many days of really not wanting to go to another playgroup or do another Thomas jigsaw.

The building work is moving along. Luckily it is all inside so the weather hasn't stopped them. The heating is of today though so I am huddled in front of a fan heater. The main challenge is trying to decide upon everything.

In fact the whole of this post proves that I hate making decisions.

Better go. My car is snowed in and I need to get it going before school time.

DomesticCEO Tue 22-Jan-13 21:21:52

JP, the photos were lovely but I know what you mean about getting more! We had this at our wedding party (not our wedding day) as we just got friends to take pics but they just took dozens of us and not of each other! hmm Very frustrating but not much you can do!

You looked gorgeous btw - and the cake was amazing too!!

Deb, the snow day sounds like fun!

LG, smile at the Thomas puzzles and playgroups! I remember it well smile. Funnily enough I've potentially been offered another job today - however, this would only be one day a week, teaching. I'm tempted although it's Y2 shock shock! The HT said "don't worry, they're just like Y6 but with shorter legs" grin. There's a lot to be negotiated before anything comes of it, and I would need to find a CM to do drop off and pick up one day a week, but it's nice to feel wanted.

Can't believe you've got no heating - you must be freezing!!

<taps fingers waiting for Gig to come and update> smile

TheJanuaryProject Wed 23-Jan-13 12:47:42

Thank you - I was really pleased with my dress!

No heating LaG - brrrrrrr!

FWIW, I am completely in awe of anyone who is a SAHM. I think it must be incredibly hard work, so I can imagine how you get days of not wanting to do another Thomas puzzle or go to a playgroup. I get like that and I only have one day per week!!! Doing something just for you sounds like a good idea LaG (if only for your own sanity)?

Yes, Gig - come back!

How's the snow now Deb?

disguisedeb Wed 23-Jan-13 21:16:40

Back at school today, snow still here(need the 4wd and snow tyres just for our road) but main roads are clear, did you see Nigel's photos on FB? I shared his photos but no-one commented so I'm not sure if you could see them. I'm not getting precious about posting pics and no-one commenting, just curious abut whether you could see them!!

Love the Y2's being Y6's with shorter legs, you see I have the opposite problem, the Y6's have too long legs for me to teach. All of a sudden Stefan seems to have got grown up hairy man legs and it's very scary smile

TheJanuaryProject Wed 23-Jan-13 21:24:35

I couldn't see your photos Deb!

I'm a bit envious of all the snow pics - we've really fared not too bad on the weather front, though I did refuse to drive to one of our rural locations today because of icy roads.

Aw, bless Stefan. I can't imagine my cute baby boy as a gangly, hairy, hormonal teen! (Not that Stefan is, but you know what I meangrin)

Gigondas Thu 24-Jan-13 11:56:46

Sorry back now- scan was good so am free for another 3 months. grin

But have had a tummy bug so am
Unable to celebrate properly yet. And now have to deal with managing my return to work - will be part time and mostly at home I hope.

Mini gig now one and is very lively (I spoke to soon of her getting over her early waking as was up at 4). Big gig loved the snow.

Deb will check fb but I get very few updates now- yours or CEO but shed loads of rubbish so not sure what is going on.

DomesticCEO Thu 24-Jan-13 12:51:07

Deb, I didn't see your pics - has Nigel got his privacy settings to Friends only? If so we couldn't see them sad. Shall we all ask N to be our friend so we can have a peek? grin

Happy Birthday JP!! flowers

LaGuerta Thu 24-Jan-13 12:51:48

Great news Gig! grin

Happy birthday January!! grin

I saw a load of fb photos on FB, but I didn't comment on them. blush I would like to be able to block the novelty cat photos that one friend on FB posts daily.

I have retreated under my duvet with a Creme Egg this lunchtime. Partly because it is chilly, but also as a bit of escapism after a slightly crap morning - hospital appt for DS1's eyes. He is going to get glasses sad. Drove the wrong way out of the carpark up a one way road. Only a small road on the hospital site, but managed to get into an argument with some pathetic little man angry as I turned my car around. Then a pigeon hit the windscreen on the way home resulting in lots of feathers sad

disguisedeb Thu 24-Jan-13 14:47:30

Great news Gig, you can breathe again now!

Happy Birthday JP

LaG - sorry about your crap day

will try and post photos myself

Gigondas Thu 24-Jan-13 14:57:33

Thanks all- and happy birthday January winewinewine.

That sounds pants lag- I am also under the blanket as tummy bug making me feel weak. Quite fancy a creme egg tho so must be on mend.

Off to check out your photos deb.

LaGuerta Thu 24-Jan-13 18:37:10

Why not send DH out on a medicinal Creme egg mission wink

disguisedeb Thu 24-Jan-13 20:28:17

saw the creme egss today when I was out and thought of you LaG

have tried sharing Nigel's photos and will also add some of mine

DomesticCEO Fri 25-Jan-13 08:44:01

You poor thing LG sad. And sorry to hear about DS1 - do you or dh wear glasses? Is it a long term thing? My friend's 2 yr old has just been given glasses too so it's been a big subject of discussion here.

DomesticCEO Fri 25-Jan-13 08:44:56

Deb, the photos/vid were fab!

Gig, how you feeling?

LaGuerta Fri 25-Jan-13 14:26:45

Apparently the glasses are forever sad but he was given them once before just before he was 3 and they lasted a fortnight before the orthoptists said not to bother as they weren't making any difference. I wear glasses all the time. I don't really like wearing contacts anymore: laziness has outweighed vanity in recent years. However I didn't start wearing them until I was 16.

TheJanuaryProject Fri 25-Jan-13 14:31:58

Sorry you had a crap day yesterday LaG. What's the diagnosis re DS's eyes? I hope today is better.

Had a great birthday - and got a new iPad which I am very excited about! I need some app recommendations Gig grin. I've not had a chance to play with it much yet, so I know what I'll be doing this weekend! I am struggling with the keypad a bit though. just a bit too small to touch type comfortably, and too big for iPhone style one finger typing.

Off to look at Deb's photos.

LaGuerta Fri 25-Jan-13 17:28:42

An iPad mini I presume?

TheJanuaryProject Fri 25-Jan-13 17:33:27

Nope, full sized!

TheJanuaryProject Sat 26-Jan-13 12:05:00

Sorry Gig, I just realised I didn't say well done on the scan. Great news! I was losing track of where I was at posting things/replying to things over the last few days.

LaGuerta Sat 26-Jan-13 14:20:24

Oh - I assumed you already had one and do you were used to the iPad keyboard size just finding going down to to the mini fiddly.

As you were though...

TheJanuaryProject Sat 26-Jan-13 17:30:16

That makes sense. No, I just find the keyboard size a bit strange. I want to type on it normally, but it's not quite big enough.

DomesticCEO Mon 28-Jan-13 22:27:58

Dh has just bought us an iPad Mini in the States - we have joined the Tablet Crew grin!

Gigondas Tue 29-Jan-13 09:54:40

Ohh nice domestic - how are boys coping without him?

January- spotify, sky go , BBc iplayer, kindle, Songpop,various puzzle ones if you are keen and the magazine/paper apps are what I like.

Having wobbly moments as meant to start phased return to work. I do think its right thing as at moment can do it but just get tired/sore from sitting (hence phased return-work from home). Just been a while since at work.

KeepCalmAndCarryOnMNing Tue 29-Jan-13 10:38:06

Yay, domestic!

Thanks for the app recommendations Gig. What apps does big gig like these days.

It's not surprising you're apprehensive about your phased return? Do you have a decent chair to use at home? Completely different I know, but when I was working at home when I injured my back, I got the office to send my chair home. It made a massive difference.

Having a bit of domestic drama as you'll see from my fb page for last night sad. The sad face might be a bit of an overreaction, but I could have cried last night! Working at home today while waiting for a workie.

LaGuerta Tue 29-Jan-13 12:48:30

Gig - wobbly moments about returning to work sound entirely reasonable. Are you currently wobbling at home whilst staring at a computer?

Washing machine woes - not great either. Hope you aren't waiting in too long.

Great news on the iPad mini purchase domestic. My only trouble with mine is the kids taking it off me when they spot it. So mostly if they are around I will use the iPhone. However with your ds2 at preschool you should have plenty of uninterrupted time on it.

I am just very grumpy at the moment. So I won't grump on here as I am annoying myself with my attitude.

Gigondas Tue 29-Jan-13 12:58:12

I would more than cry if washing machine broke.

Do tell lag as we all vent enough.

Big gig likes some of duck duck moose ones (colouring, words and numbers one), story ones (Disney ones , cat in hat etc ones) and cbeebies on iplayer.

DomesticCEO Tue 29-Jan-13 13:03:16

((((((Gig)))))) - baby steps re: return to work. Take it as slow as you need. Hope your Occ Health are being supportive x

The boys have been amazing so far - really proud of them. It's so much easier being on your own with a 3yr old and a 4yr old than two babies though! When dh went away when the kids were little I would always summon my mum blush (not that that's an option anymore sad) but now it's fine. Spent the whole day on my own on Sunday with them and had a lovely day smile.

JP, nightmare about your washing machine and water sad.

LG, you can share your grump here!! Tbh, I would rather they used the iPad than the iPhone - both DS1 and DS2 have managed to delete apps off my iPhone hmm, plus I just collected my brand new shiny iPhone 5 today so there's no way they're getting their grubby hands on it grin grin grin.

LaGuerta Tue 29-Jan-13 13:43:48

They just seem less bothered by the iPhone than the iPad. They also fight over the iPad with DS2 bellowing "SHARE" at DS1 who, to be fair to him is remarkably restrained with his little brother. So it is easier to keep it out of sight as much as possible.

Grumble alert - I am just rubbish at having the specify every last detail to the builders. They are being completely reasonable in their requests but I am very bad at knowing what I want. Invariably when I have worked out what I want DH comes home and wants something else. Then we have to spend 2+ hours considering every bathroom tap under the sun before he concludes that my I initial preference is perfectly ok. Etc etc.

KeepCalmAndCarryOnMNing Tue 29-Jan-13 14:30:52

That sounds very frustrating LaG and well worth a grumble.

Still waiting for washing machine man. I'm particularly frustrated with kitchen fitters to (i.e. the ones that put our kitchen in before we moved in). Who leaves a space of 598 mm when all standard washing machines need 600m? So if we do have to replace we have a very limited choice. Gah!

Thanks for app recommendations Gig. We have a duck duck one I think. DS's current favourite is 'firehosefrenzy' which is a Lego fireman app. There's a good Charlie Stinky Socks interactive app too if anyone likes those books. I think I may have paid for that one though. It was interesting looking in the app store - I was looking for apps for DS that didn't have ridiculous in app purchases (I know I can turn that facility off, but I don't want him pestering me for things in apps) and some in-app purchases were £64 on a kids app! Outrageous. I don't mind paying a couple of quid for a decent app if it means no ads or in-app purchases, but £64! I was glad that you can check out in app purchases in the ipad app store before downloading an app, I don't know if that's something available on the iphone app store, I hadn't noticed it before.

Domestic - glad that the boys are doing well while DH is away. When is he back?

KeepCalmAndCarryOnMNing Tue 29-Jan-13 14:33:58

LaG - sorry I missed your post about DS's glasses. I started wearing glasses when I was about 17 too, though I wear contacts now. I wonder, practicalities aside, if it's easier to start wearing glasses earlier? One of DS's nursery mates wears glasses, and her parents say she's getting on fine with them though they need to be robust.

KeepCalmAndCarryOnMNing Tue 29-Jan-13 19:32:45

Washing machine kaput and squelchy sounds from under the flooring <weeps>

KeepCalmAndCarryOnMNing Tue 29-Jan-13 21:35:23

Now I've calmed down slightly I have turned my attention to washing machine shopping. Thanks to fuckwit kitchen fitters I can only buy a machine that's 595mm wide. So far, I've only found two brands - Miele and hotpoint. Hotpoint won't last as long, but we could afford to replace our washer/dryer with another one. A Miele washer dryer is way out of budget, but a washing machine alone is still out of budget but just about doable. WWYD?

DomesticCEO Tue 29-Jan-13 22:13:02

LG, that is very annoying - although I'd be more annoyed by dh than the builders grin! Luckily dh not really interested in stuff like so I get to make most of the decisions which suits me grin.

KC, gah about the washing machine angry. How much would you miss a dryer? Miele are an excellent brand but if not having a dryer would be a logistical nightmare I would go for the Hotpoint.

Dh back on Saturday - missing him lots now sad.

KeepCalmAndCarryOnMNing Tue 29-Jan-13 22:18:14

I hope Saturday come quickly CEO!

I think we'll go for the Miele. We can get it within a few days (but will need to look at the kitchen floor damage properly first no point getting the washing machine in if the floor needs to come up). I'd miss a dryer, but tbh, we don't use it that much. My mum always talked about them being very expensive to run when I was growing up and it's stayed with me!!!! grin. I'll miss fluffy towels though...

Gigondas Wed 30-Jan-13 07:44:33

I never had a dryer before lived with dh or growing up and we coped. You could also get one of those heated hangers from Lakeland that the housekeeping lot on here rave about.

The chair tip is a good one and will definitely be asking occupational health advice on both leg and my sore shoulder (have always had on/off issues with sore neck and shoulder but it is now sore and annoying and seems to be slower to respond to physio than my leg).

Lag- between builders and dh I would be driven mad too. That is dh department as I just don't care enough have attention to detail on that sort of stuff. And didn't mean not to comment on glasses as that is worrying- like you I only got them much later at 14 (and I also am not fussed about contact lens).

CEO- glad boys are ok but sorry you are missing dh- I am not looking forward to next week as dh off skiing and it is only 3 nights. smile About new phone- mini gig keeps running off with mine so can play with that and new toy one you got her (which she loves ).

LaGuerta Wed 30-Jan-13 13:10:58

We have got a Miele dishwasher which is very much better than its Seimen's predecessor. We went for the bottom of the range Meile which like you was just about affordable. We also bought it off eBay, new but with damaged packaging which saved a bit more. Sadly we have just sold it on eBay as the new kitchen requires an integrated dw, or more accurately, we decided non integrated would look a bit rubbish in this style of kitchen. We have ordered a neff one as the Meile integrated ones were too pricey. Time will tell whether we regret our vanity driven decision. Happy to lend you my Which login if that would help.

LaGuerta Wed 30-Jan-13 13:20:17

And... Thanks for the sympathies with the glasses. I am a bit sad but for now DS is excited about them. He chose the frames yesterday and for some unknown reason opted for the thick brown plastic frames hmm. However the optician was keen to point out that should we "break" them then we should come back and he can get another pair courtesy of the NHS. It's a good money spinner for him. In fact I could write a whole post about the village opticians. It was a cross between the "Four candles" sketch and "The Fast Show". The optician himself wore a three piece suit with a gold chain and fob watch. I think I mean the fast show, it might be something else - the one with all the weird villagers.

The sun is shining today and I am feeling less grumpy. smile

Gig - still wobbly with work today?

disguisedeb Sat 02-Feb-13 10:15:36

Just swanning in (saw Russian ballet do swan lake last night!)here to announce that the dreaded day came on Thursday - OFSTED. It is not official(for another couple of weeks so no FB announcements) so please don't tell any or our nutcase parents who may object to the report, but we are an outstanding school and I also got outstanding for my teaching. Still can't quite believe it. Celebrated on Thursday night with chinese and champagne. Last night was the theatre. Tomorrow we are going to look at a house that's come on the market in the village which could be the one for us. ..........Maybe?

LaGuerta Sat 02-Feb-13 16:55:19

Wow Deb. You deserve to feel very proud of yourself. thanks

Link to the house possible at all? Fingers crossed that this is the one.

Nice day here with a little trip to look at some floors for the kitchen followed by a pub lunch. Just got into the garden and pruned the apple trees (inexpertly) before I froze.

Building works are coming on nicely. Ready for the plasterers on Monday.

disguisedeb Sat 02-Feb-13 17:45:57

Thanks for the flowers !!

These houses were for sale together , but collectively were up for 600,000. Now they've decided to split into 2 lots this one but I think we prefer the barn Possibility with either to buy 2 fields as well. With barn we'd also have to use holiday cottage as accommodation for us, but then there's the option to recreate it as cottage when hopefully the boys leave!!

Gigondas Sun 03-Feb-13 07:20:23

Well done deb grin

Both houses look good but barn seems better- more spacious somehow.

Glad building coming along- we had roof fixed as was leaking and now need some decoration as leaked into bedroom.

Not very coherent this morning as mini gig was up at 3.45...

disguisedeb Sun 03-Feb-13 12:13:40

Thanks Gig

If you look at map of area and zoom in on satellite you can see a strip of land behind barn which ends in a pond - that's why we're keener on that one (at moment) Going to see them at 1, will report back.

Gigondas Sun 03-Feb-13 14:54:05

How was it deb?

disguisedeb Sun 03-Feb-13 20:11:04

Hi Gig
Old house - too much to do, too expensive to heat and funny layout
Converted barn - nice because newly converted so all new, cheaper running costs, lovely features like old beams, arrow slit window with view into a birds' nest smile lovely bathroom, great view from some windows, great garden, and then the land as well. Negatives, shared courtyard parking, v small entrance and utility, for it to work for us we'd have to knock through to holiday cottage. There is an old door there which has been filled in but there is a covenant which states that it is only for holiday cottage use. Don't know how easy this would be to change. Holiday cottage was converted first and then the barn.Holiday cottage bedroom v pretty, great view and far away from boys grin Going to show photos to boys, see what they think. Compromise with this one is less space inside but loads more space outside.

LaGuerta Tue 05-Feb-13 14:04:10

Thanks for the links Deb. I'm such a nosey parker! How tantalising that the barn is almost right except for the holiday cottage limitations. What happened to the plan to buy your current rental?

Plasterers are in at the moment, making an almighty mess, but it is taking shape. The units are due to arrive at the distribution depot next Tuesday. I am almost excited!

I have a small quandary about a "friend" in the village. She is lovely, hospitable, been friendly to me since we arrived, BUT she holds certain views that I really disagree with. Today's example being about a child in our DS's class who my DS has said is his new friend. Her response, "Oh, I would do your best to discourage that friendship." I ask why, "Because of her family." To be blunt, this child's family look "poor", and my friend seems to think this is grounds to avoid them. I know nothing about them, except that Mum volunteers at the Playgroup. I am quite shock and angry that she is so judgemental and thinks that I would be ok with her saying this. Of course I just laughed, as I didn't think I could hoik up my judgey pants to her face. This probably makes me a coward. blush

This is the first place that I have ever lived where I feel left of centre. wink I'm sure that some of my lovely MN friends here can set me straight on this one though. wink

How is everyone else? Nice to have your DH back CEO?

DomesticCEO Tue 05-Feb-13 20:59:03

Woo hoo Deb!! Way to go on the Outstanding grin - you star! smile.

That barn is gorgeous - wow!

Can't wait to see the kitchen LG - hope you're still taking pics grin!

V tricky about your new friend - a tricky one. I would maybe lightly suggest that you don't think there's anything wrong with her family and leave it at that. I have friends who are anti-gay marriage, who are religious and shock even friends who are Tories!!! grin wink

Yes, it is lovely to have dh back smile.

Oh and we've finally found out what's wrong with my dad! He has a very rare chest infection - which is going to be treated with 3 different types of ABs over TWO years shock. His cons said "we're going to be seeing a lot of each other" as he will need to be closely monitored. Such a relief to finally know what it is though, and to have some treatment options. Mum and dad both sounded so much happier today.

How's the sleep going Gig?

KeepCalmAndCarryOnMNing Wed 06-Feb-13 22:13:43

<tries to think about any Tory friends...> wink

It's tricky LaG. I was faced with some homophobia today, which in any form, makes me feel quite sick. But without going into too many details, it was difficult for me to unleash my fury! In your situation, I probably would keep her as a fairly arms length acquaintance, but then, I don't live in a small community so that would be easier for me to do.

The barn looks fab Deb.

I have my new Miele washing machine and it's ace grin. However, at some point I do need to get a new kitchen floor. As all of you have bought/looked at buying several properties since I've known you, any tips on kitchen floor purchases? What's nice and what's naff? And what's not expensive...? I've never had to put down a kitchen floor before, and I know if I research properly I'll be tempted by something expensive grin. Trying to get the balance between something that's nice enough come house selling time in a year or so and something that won't break the currently non existent budget.

KeepCalmAndCarryOnMNing Wed 06-Feb-13 22:15:07

And great news about your dad CEO! grin

DTisMYdoctor Fri 08-Feb-13 12:29:50

Name change inspired by some recent Dr Who box set watching... (tis me, from North of the border).

How is everyone?

disguisedeb Fri 08-Feb-13 16:34:42

put in an offer...waiting for phone to ring

DomesticCEO Sun 10-Feb-13 09:31:57

Kitchen floors - I personally don't like tiles as I think they're very very cold and anything you drop on them will break. I would go for a lino - they've improved immeasurably in the last few years, and you can actually get some really nice linos. Much easier to clean too!

Deb, how exciting grin!

LaGuerta Tue 12-Feb-13 20:29:21

Any news Deb?

For the new kitchen floor we are looking at luxury vinyl tiles. Amtico and Karndean are the known and expensive brand names but we are currently considering something called mflor which is cheaper but hopefully just as good.

Thanks for your thoughts on the friend dilemma last week. I agree polite/friendly distance is the key, although our paths cross a lot as both DSs are in the same class, go to the same club etc, and she is v hospitable to me. Following that I managed to get into an argument with her 4yo after school one day as he was being quite belligerent about something trivial. He is not a very nice little boy IMO blush: rude and physically aggressive including smacking me once or twice recently shock . I think "avoid, avoid avoid" needs to be my new motto!

I have just put DS2 in a toddler bed for the first time. Why? Because I booked a ski holiday this morning, and to get the best price I had to go for rooms that only had twin beds. DH is pleased as he thought we should have done it after DS1 vacated it in January. DS1 is pleased as he sees this as a step towards the day they get bunk beds. DS2 is thrilled, very excited and currently still awake grin

DTisMYdoctor Wed 13-Feb-13 14:50:31

Thanks for flooring suggestions. Mflor looks good LaG. I'm just finding it a bit difficult to get excited about it - if we were re-doing the kitchen I'd be poring over samples etc, but I don't really like the kitchen so it's hard to get excited about finding something that fits with it. What we have, though I wouldn't necessarily choose it, seems reasonably good quality but I'm not quite sure what it is. It kind of looks like tiles (but isn't), it comes in strips about 4 tiles long I think (they've done a really good job putting it down so it's hard to tell). I'm starting to live with the damage to the floor as I don't think it's particularly obvious unless it's pointed out so I suspect it might shift down the priorities - especially as our electric shower has just died!

But more importantly - how did you get on Deb?!?

LaG - re your 'friend' - I know being judgemental is really frowned upon on MN, it wasn't too surprising when you said her little boy was rude. I wonder where he gets it from... wink

DomesticCEO Wed 13-Feb-13 18:33:45

grin at your silly judgemental friend having a child who's a little shit!! What a surprise grin. How tempting it must be for you to point this little gem out to her? wink

Yay for toddler beds! We're just venturing into the world of bunk beds and the boys are beside themselves with excitement - room being decorated next week, then we'll order the bunk beds. Curtains being made by SIL in some lego fabric she's ordering from the States, and I think we're going to go for some contrasting lego fabric for bean bags. All very exciting grin.

DT, I would leave the kitchen floor if it's not that noticeable - a lot of hassle for something you're not fussed about!

LaGuerta Wed 13-Feb-13 23:06:28

Agree - that if you think you might sell in the next year or two and the floor is tolerable then maybe it's not worth replacing it now.

I would love to tell her how unpleasant her child is, but I think she is fully aware of this already. She has also just found out that she is expecting DS3 when she overtly had said she wants a DD "for all our sakes" hmm I actually feel rather sorry for her, despite feeling fairly irritated by her attitude on other things.

Gigondas Thu 14-Feb-13 08:56:17

Sorry been slack about posting but between teething mini gig and starting back at work have been done in.but am quite glad to be back as feels normal and nice to do something proper and get some structure in my days that doesn't involve hospital etc.

On floor I would leave it (and completely agree that tiles are bloody freezing so don't get them). Cheap is good if you do change floor as it will get hammered dt.

Any house news deb?

Lag- ski Hol sounds great (we are off to France next week). Glad so far bed move going ok. I would be quiet (but inwardly seething too) at the other mum- and it does sound proof of my theory of show me a difficult child, I will show you an odd parent.

Domestic-the Lego design sounds awesome. Will you post pics when done?

Am lolling in bed in lovely valentines day pyjamas dh gave me. As I said am very tired but part of it is cos my neck/shoulder painful. It's nerve pain so they need to change my painkillers (nothing sinister here but where my neck/shoulder had got stiff as am out of condition and post op , swelling has made nerve tingle). Did you have any experience of this with your bad back dt?

Gigondas Thu 14-Feb-13 08:58:22

Oh and I am now tiger mother as big gig having issues concentrating and always following what teacher asks her to do alone. She understands but just won't/can't concentrate.

Teacher is lovely so after trying praise and stars to get her to do it, it is now lose your break/lunch to finish it. So far this seems to be having more effect.

All a bit harsh as she is little but on balance I think better to learn about discipline and doing what asked at school now rather than later when it is more engrained.

LaGuerta Thu 14-Feb-13 12:49:01

LOL @ "difficult child, odd parent" grin

In what way does this make you a tiger mother? Sounds as though the teacher is just doing her job. I am resisting the tiger mother urge to put DS1 down for an after school music group that is starting after half term and he would undoubtedly love. He does two things already (gym and swimming) and I don't think he should do more. Plus I don't like trailing round to after school activities trying to amuse Ds2 <lazy>

DomesticCEO Thu 14-Feb-13 14:25:00

Oh god, mums who blame their kids crap behaviour on their gender really wind me up!! So she thinks if she had a daughter instead of a son they'd behave?? hmm Grrrrrr! I'm liking her less and less!

There will be pics a plenty of the new Lego room Gig grin.

Re: difficult child, odd parent - given DS2's behaviour, I'm wondering just how odd I am? grin wink

On other news, my dad started his ABs on Monday and was as sick as a dog so has had to come straight back off them again - and this was only one lot, he's supposed to work up to taking 3! The consultant is now at a bit of a loss and has sent his biopsy results to a specialist clinic in London - the wait goes on sad.

On a happier note, glad you're finding work a welcome distraction Gig.

Oh, and Mr Tumble has just submitted a recipe for our charity cookbook - much excitement grin!

LaGuerta Thu 14-Feb-13 14:47:34

I blame my DH wink. I am of course completely normal.

Gigondas Thu 14-Feb-13 17:03:07

Tiger mum I suppose as being strict and honest when not done well. Which is probably sense.

And CEO ds2 fails odd child test as dh and I think he is great (dh has real soft spot for him and ds1 which is unusual for him). Odd is like my step sisters kids when kids raise general eyebrow and get wtf response.

The music group sounds great lag- I would sign him up.

Gigondas Thu 14-Feb-13 17:05:07

I can lend your "friend" both of my girls if she wants to see how girls are . Obviously mini gig very young, but she is on same planet, that minister who thinks horse in food is due to criminal conspiracy is on , if thinks girls = good.

LaGuerta Thu 14-Feb-13 17:54:03

No need, she quite often borrows her neighbour's daughter at school run time.

DomesticCEO Thu 14-Feb-13 19:22:10

Aw bless your dh, Gig - I did notice there was quite a bond between your dh and the boys (and your DSS!) last time we were over. Very sweet smile.

grin at horse meat criminal conspiracy!

DTisMYdoctor Thu 14-Feb-13 20:08:16

Lego room sounds great - looking forward to seeing the pics. I really must finish DS's room - I promised Gig pics! The boys will love bunk beds - Struan thinks his mid sleeper is brilliant - two words though - fitted sheets!!! It's a bugger to change the bed! grin I'd do the same re putting ds2 in a bed ahead of the holiday too LaG. DS went into a bed quite early I recall, and he was fine with it bar his historical sleeping issue which were unrelated. Since he went into a full sized bed, his sleeping has improved loads!

I'm not that au fait with the 'tiger mum' expression, but your approach to big gig doesn't sound unreasonable Gig.

After school clubs - I've not had to consider it yet obviously, but I think two after school activities is plenty tbh LaG, though I appreciate it's hard when you know it's something he loves and it's good to let them try different things to explore what their interests are. Mind you, in typing that I realised that DS currently does swimming, gym and mini-kickers out with nursery, and we pay for him to do drama and French at nursery. blush I'm going to be on here starting one of those MN threads (that I've seen before) wailing 'can I fit a sixth after school activity in for my genius pfb' grin. That said, he'll be in some kind of after school care (which I'm a bit sad about) so in reality we might struggle to fit anything in! I really need to start looking at after school clubs/childminders soon.

Where has Deb gone? Do we think she's still waiting by the phone?

Thanks for all the comments re: the floor. I am erring towards just leaving it, though have the odd panic that the water that seeped under could cause damage/mould/damp either under the floor or hidden under the kitchen cupboards. It's a concrete floor though, so not like there are any floorboards to rot or anything...

Gigondas Thu 14-Feb-13 20:26:43

tiger mother

Wow at all s does dt grin.

And yes- where is deb? We want news .

DTisMYdoctor Thu 14-Feb-13 20:40:39

It's just lazy parenting really wink. We have him doing swimming/gym/football on non nursery days so that even when it's really miserable out (we live in Scotland remember grin we know he gets some exercise! Oh, and we can go to the gym while he's there or have tea and cake in the cafe the one good thing about our area is there is a great leisure centre, small children's library and small play park next to each other about 5 minutes walk which helps keep us occupied on a Monday now that I've cut out all my not very nice 'mum pals!

Come on deb!

DomesticCEO Thu 14-Feb-13 21:06:19

DS1 does swimming on a Monday, gym Tuesday and drama Friday - but we're dropping gym in the summer term as 3 activities is too much and he wants to do more play dates!

disguisedeb Sun 17-Feb-13 09:06:44

I'm sorry, busy last week before half term at school, 1st offer rejected so increased it , and heard yesterday that they have accepted that in principle. But as we are awaiting guidance from planners about changing use of holiday cottage they are still marketing the house and will state that there's already an offer on the table to interested people. Had Mum here this weekend, she says just go for it and put the offer in formally, , and instruct solicitors whilst you wait for planners, so that it will be off the market. dad's coming tomorrow to try and convince us not to buy it, but disguising the visit as bringing Tristan's Birthday presents.

After school Ethan is fit for nothing, he's so tired.

Jealous about ski trip, we were going to go up to Scotland this week but Nigel's Uncle is in intensive care and doesn't look good so we're off to Sunny Scunthorpe to see him and support mil for a couple of days. Also Tristan's 11th Birthday on Wednesday.Next month stefan will be a teenager - aargh!

DTisMYdoctor Sun 17-Feb-13 13:33:03

It made me chuckle to read that your mum's egging you on Deb before your dad arrives to talk you out of it!

Sorry to hear about N's uncle.

DomesticCEO Mon 18-Feb-13 18:36:48

How exciting Deb!

Why would your dad not want you to buy it? confused