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StitchingMoss Fri 06-Jan-12 10:52:49

Getting exciting now grin wink!

StitchingMoss Fri 06-Jan-12 11:01:25

Hello, sorry old thread was taking so long to load that I didn't have enough time to post once I had loaded it! grin

Gig, hope you meet some nice new mums in your NCT class. I think I've said before that my 2nd time around NCT group was a bit of a dead loss as there was only three of us and the other two live opposite each other! One moved into the street the weekend we started so they're now best buddies and I'm the third wheel sad. I've been so lucky with my first group though, we still see each other at least twice a week so that's been great.

No other exciting news here - start LL today and my weigh in yesterday confirmed my desperate need to lose weight sad blush. So wish me luck smile. Have a quiet weekend planned which I know will turn into a "let's get everything done around the house" mad dash, but there's so much that needs doing so we need to sort it!

LG, any news on the house?

Hi to everyone else x

TheScottishPlayer Fri 06-Jan-12 12:45:46

Hi everyone, thanks for the new thread Stitching.

Glad to hear your new NCT group seems nice Gig - it'll be nice to know some people that will be off around the same time. My first group wasn't great - I only keep in touch with one person (and her me) but I think the others do keep in touch and see each other. Not long to go - very exciting!

I was wondering about LG and the house too - eagerly awaiting the latest instalment.

It was probably lost in all the other chat, but would still be interested to hear from Stitching and Deb (with their experience in the sector) about children moving schools during primary schools and how much (if any) of a problem it is. We're contemplating staying where we are for a couple of years as it would be far more sensible financially, but we would definitely move at some point before DS had to go to high school. Local primary is fine, high school not so much.

I see on FB that mudwiggle is having a garage sale so I hope that goes well and good luck with the job hunting.

In other news, I may be in London and free to meet up on the 16th March Gig (and anyone else who fancies a trip to town) if you're free. I appreciate that you might be a bit tied up with a newborn though Gig!

Not much else to report here, apart from annoyingly our potential ttc window for this year is now even shorter because I cant get an appointment to get some dental work done for a while (including x-ray and replacement of a mercury filling). Pah.

Stitching - we've got loads to do at home too - I've downloaded a'home routine' app on my iphone which I'm finding very motivational!!

I'm sure there was other stuff I wanted to comment on from the other thread, but in the office and desperate for a sandwich now! If I don't get back on, I hope everyone has a good weekend.

disguisedeb Fri 06-Jan-12 13:40:27

Thanks for the new thread Stitching, can I join you in trying to lose some weight, maybe we can motivate each other. I used to do a weekly weigh in with friends which helped me . I'm not suggesting that we state our weight on here , but we could say how much we'd lost?BUT I do have to get rid of al the Christmas goodies in the house first so I might not be starting properl until we move.

SP - I wouldn't worry too much about moving your ds whilst at Primary, obviously the last year before the move to high school isn't the best time if it can be avoided, certainly by leaving it a few years I can't see any huge problems. saying that though each child is different and you will know how your ds copes with change.Stefan moved schools at age 5 and age 10 and coped fine both times, whereas Tristan was 3 and 8, and struggled both than me.times.

We are moving in 3 weeks today smile I have packed one box, I hope Mudwiggle is a bit more organised than me.Lots of carefully packed items rubbish which we haven't used in 1 year are ready to move to the new house.

Gigondas Fri 06-Jan-12 14:28:14

Just marking spot. Back from second lot of nct- stitching tbh I cant see this one being that close. Mainly as I like the class for tips but I dont feel that same need for companionship (can get that here or via other rl friends- having done it once I don't need to compare notes on what kids doing each week).

They all seem very nice but quite different in terms of age of kids , where they live etc so not quite the same bond . Also I was a bit put off by some of the chat at lunch which was along the "what will dh do when baby arrives as he is clueless" . I know I am lucky as dh good (and more experienced parent than me) but am always a bit meh about useless men type

And a march meet up would be good Scottish.

Gigondas Fri 06-Jan-12 15:37:08

Paying for sitting down at nct session now as completely immobile (c section recovery cannot possibly make me any worse). Luckily dd latest tv session is lazy town and she is asking me to be sportacus... Talk about bad timing/bad casting wink

Gigondas Fri 06-Jan-12 15:37:56

Unless there is a rare Lazy town episode where sportacus has put on weight, lies on sofa and eats chocolate biscuits

StitchingMoss Fri 06-Jan-12 16:25:36

grin at Lazy Sportacus!

Deb, quite happy to report in on weight loss - if it goes well you won't be able to stop me going on about it anyway! grin However, don't forget my loss could be pretty rapid because of the nature of LL - although you probably have about a third of the weight to lose that I have so we'll probably hit goal at the same time grin

SP, forgot to reply on the moving school thing - unhelpfully I'm going to say a similar thing to Deb, it is sooo dependant on the child. I have had experience of this both as a teacher and as a child. As a child we moved a lot and consequently changed schools a couple of times too both at primary and secondary. I found that I had no problem at all with moving and I think it actually improved my confidence and ability to make friends, whereas my sister hated it. My brothers, being twins, had a slightly different experience as they always had each other.

So, in short, I don't think there is anything wrong with moving schools but I think it will depend on S how well he manages the transition. Does that help?confused

Must go, have counselling appt.

Gigondas Fri 06-Jan-12 16:34:41

Can you do star jumps like sportacus mum? That would be a no dd.

Am happy to Join the health kick when over c section

StitchingMoss Fri 06-Jan-12 18:45:56

Forgot to say, am up for London meet up!

Gigondas Fri 06-Jan-12 22:40:33

Any name suggestions welcome - we are going round in circles here

TheScottishPlayer Fri 06-Jan-12 22:45:55

I liked Violet if that helps. What's your current shortlist?

Gigondas Fri 06-Jan-12 22:50:14

Think we are there on middle names - ivy Matilda but first names are either lilian (lily), violet or grace with a late entry for Sophia.

TheScottishPlayer Fri 06-Jan-12 23:19:09

I really do like Violet, my first thoughts on Lilian were a bit hmmm (but in a more positive way than hmm iyswim), but actually I do like it and think it complements DD1's name well. And well, it's only one letter away from a frankly under-rated and under-used name wink)

TheScottishPlayer Fri 06-Jan-12 23:24:56

Well, 2 letters away blush but you know what I mean!

StitchingMoss Sat 07-Jan-12 10:26:22

Prefer Lily or Sophia to Violet tbh. Still love Grace though!

Gigondas Sat 07-Jan-12 10:44:17

Dh has added Eloise (ok) and Amy to list . I do like grace but worry its too common. Am not so precious that name has to be never heard of but better not to be a 2 in a class type name.

Wallowing on sofa today as sore. And have been given full license to do if by dh gringrin

Gigondas Sat 07-Jan-12 10:44:54

What is everyone else up to?

TheScottishPlayer Sat 07-Jan-12 10:59:55

Oh, I really love Eloise. I had it on my list when pg with DS.

DS staying with GPs tonight as we're off to a party. Most looking forward to sitting on the sofa with my kindle in peace for an hour or two before getting ready to go out. grin

Be great to see you in London in March Gig and Stitching. Will Mudwiggle be back by then? We should be booking travel this w/e so once I've done that I can start making plans. Any thoughts on a good meet up venue?

Gigondas Sat 07-Jan-12 11:02:31

I should be reading but am watching a rerun of a new life down under blush

Where are you going to stay when you are down Scottish?

TheScottishPlayer Sat 07-Jan-12 12:25:22

I should be doing housework while DH is taking DS to do the recycling but I'm catching up on corrie with a cuppa! I'm staying in Victoria Park Gig.

Mudwiggle Sun 08-Jan-12 10:05:21

I'll be back - a meet up would be fantastic!

Back on the weightloss path again here too. So far this year I have done no exercise and put on weight - best laid plans and all that. Have downloaded weight watchers app and not eaten crap tonight, which means today was 100 times more successful than yday.

Garage sale pretty good. No packing here either, but that's cos we're getting rid of everything and coming back with just one suitcase each.

Love the name Eloise, though there do seem to be a lot of Ellies around. DS1's friend called Elowen which is suitably out there enough for me to like too. Used to like Lilian, but had an annoying boss by that name... not that that will matter to you. I think you put Matilda as a middle name, I like that as a first name. But ignore me, I still have doubts over DS2's name nearly a year later. Actually asked DH if we could change it last week.

Bugger battery going...

Are you finding the counselling helpful Stitching?

disguisedeb Sun 08-Jan-12 11:11:57

wish I was close enough to meet up, maybe one day...

Gig, hope you feel a little better after resting on the settee, not up to much today, cooking sunday lunch, Tristan had a friend over to sleep last night and stefan was out at a friend's sleepover, so all change!feeling full of cold , hoping it will pass soon.

ok stitching, when we have eaten al the goodies in the house then I will start with the weigh in, by then you should have lost loads and be way ahead.would still love to know how much you lose each week.

LaG - where are you?hopefully packing

disguisedeb Sun 08-Jan-12 11:17:18

names -
1.Sophia (Tristan's best friend from Austria and a lovely girl)
5.Violet(just have images of it being shortened to Vi)

Gigondas Sun 08-Jan-12 12:14:09

Thanks all - Agree re violet being horrid in its short form. grin at not liking names cos of people at work mudwiggle - that ruled a lot of names out here!
Still really sore so taking it easy and made a classic mistake (stitching will wag her finger) of googling. Firstly quite hard to find anything on exactly what I have but worse all the stories of people with various types of pelvic pain which never cleared up. This obsessing/worrying me than birth/newborn stuff as am so immobile and pain so bad.

Sorry self centered . I did laugh about dh going on tip run Scottish - this is a big treat if dd gets to go with dh.

Deb- have you got any teaching lined up or are you focussing on move?

Hi to lag if she is lurking

Mudwiggle Mon 09-Jan-12 07:15:50

Gigondas - My SPD cleared completely post birth. However I feel like a Pollyanna to your woes, ELCS easy, breastfeeding no problem this time, etc. So we won't mention backpain, post op infection...

DS2 is one 2m! So all the memories are flooding back.

Talking of weight, DS2's weight has increased threefold in the last year whereas I've lost a third. I've still got more to lose, but I thought there was a nice symmetry to those stats.

LaG - where thou are thou?

Gigondas Mon 09-Jan-12 07:19:59

Pollyanna good- that's what I need. Am definitely eeyore as feel sore, tired and isolated as house bound.

That year has gone quickly . Happy birthday for tomorrow

TheScottishPlayer Mon 09-Jan-12 08:30:51

Morning all. I realised that I completely neglected to say thanks to Deb and Stitching for their thoughts on moving schools, so thank you! We're cracking on with the things that we need to do around the house and will get a valuation in the Spring and see how things are then.

I'm hoping the reason that LaG isn't here is that she's manically trying to prepare for a house move. Stitching - have you heard from LaG at all?

Mudwiggle - delighted that you are also up for a meet up (and sad that it's too far for you Deb). We've still to book our travel but the plan is to go to London on the 16th March, so would be free to catch up on the 17th. Any thoughts on places that would be entertaining for the DC and let us have a good blether?

Good luck to all on the weight loss. I really need to lose a few stone - I'm working up to trying out the shred again.

StitchingMoss Mon 09-Jan-12 09:49:10

FWIW Gig, I don't know any young Graces and only taught one in my six years of teaching - but then these things tend to be regional. DS1's name is only 21st in the top 100 names but I think all of them live near us hmm.

Have just texted LG as I haven't heard from her in a while - hoping no news is good news but will keep you posted.

Yay to a meet up smile - are we allowed to bring dhs grin? Is yours coming with you SP?

Mudwiggle, great news on the weight loss grin.

Gig, I can't have a go at you about googling - have a very sore tongue tip at the moment and convinced myself (via google) that I either have oral cancer or diabetes blush. Have booked a doc's appt for tomorrow as I've had it for four weeks and it's not clearing up, but won't mention my google exploits to the GP as I know she'll be hmm about it blush.

My SPD hasn't entirely cleared up I'm afraid, but it's certainly nowhere near the level is was when I was pg, and don't forget I'm still carrying a shed load of excess weight (one of the reasons for needing to lose it). I'm working on lots of core exercises at the moment to strengthen my core and pelvic floor which should also help. It's really only twinges if I've overdone the walking but not real pain so try not to worry.

Deb, I weighed myself this morning and it's looking good already grin but I'll only do a weekly update!

Right, house is now all tidy ready to be trashed again by the NCT gang grin!

TheScottishPlayer Mon 09-Jan-12 13:55:31

Afternoon all - 1st back to normal Monday here with DS and I'm worn out trying to entertain him all by myself!!! We've had gym nippers, the park, lunch, phonics, lego and trains. And it's not even 2pm yet. Work isn't this exhausting grin

Re: meet up - I wasn't planning on bringing DH (I think he's planning a rare trip to the footie) but I have absolutely no objection to other people's being there.

Have fun with your NCT crowd this afternoon Stitching.

Gigondas Mon 09-Jan-12 14:24:12

Re meet up i may bring dh but depends on rugby (if it's a weekend meet up).

Have just rung the pelvic partnership (odd name but seem to be best place for advise) and got details of 2 physics. Also off to osteopath now which may well
Help. Pilates did seem to help as managed to struggle to session last week. But was much worse this weekend cos may be I sat on it (have not really been sitting but Lieing since I gave up work and I think
That has helped).

Thanks for tips on grace- the dice is still rolling on name so could be any of those. And know what you mean- my name wasn't esp common when I was kid except in my school.

Let us know if you get news from lag stitching .

Anyone seen the thread about peppa pig making kids behave badly?

TheScottishPlayer Mon 09-Jan-12 16:14:16

I just had a skim of the peppa pig thread. We don't watch peppa pig too much here. Largely because it's so short and the back to back episodes are interspersed with so many adverts! We're fairly recent converts to Disney Junior here - Mickey Mouse Clubhouse, Little Einsteins and Jake & the Neverland Pirates are all very popular.

How was the osteopath Gig?

On names, I never met anyone with my name until I had left school altogether. Mind you, I hated my name growing up. I always wanted to have a 'cool' 'boys' girls NN like Alex or Charlie.

Gigondas Mon 09-Jan-12 16:28:09

Have always been quite a Disney junior fan - with exception of special agent Oso , it's pretty good and minimal ads. I have actually blocked some channels due to ads/content.
I think within reason most pre school stuff is ok in moderation and If you pick up kids on silly ideas they get in it.
Osteopath was very restful - although him being a bit shocked at how swollen muscles are was a bit blush (dh has kindly likened it to a baboons bum!). Am going back when got ok post c section but will take baby in when get back from hospital and feel up to it (I haven't heard anyone saying anything negative about osteopathy for babies).

TheScottishPlayer Mon 09-Jan-12 17:01:03

DS is going through a bit of a special agent Oso phase. I do like the minimal ads. DS loves scooby doo so we recorded some episodes on a channel I forget (boomerang maybe) and it had adverts in the middle of each episode. We soon weaned him off that grin.

Well, I'd better go and wake him up - he had an ill-timed nap in the car earlier while I was en-route to the supermarket so we came how. I now suspect we have nothing in for tea. Oops.

Gigondas Mon 09-Jan-12 17:03:45

Marmite pasta night?

Guilty mum moment here as dd Gettimg her boosters (decided to do it pre baby). Nanny gone as not sure i can walk there sad

Tbh I think am at risk of getting more down- its not good when Mn is your main source of communication and you feel like life passing you by.

StitchingMoss Mon 09-Jan-12 21:00:48

Would you like a visitor Gig? I know you haven't got long til due date but happy to come over for a natter if it would help? Big hugs x

Tv - I thought all the fuss about PP was a load of crap. We watch lots of PP here and the boys have actually learnt a lot of good stuff from it. Yes, we do get the "but that's for boys/girls" comment but tbh they get far worse from the kids at pre-school. As for kids being taught to jump in muddy puddles from PP, words fail me! hmm

We don't have Sky, only Freeview, so if we're not watching CBeebies we use DVDs instead - no adverts grin!

Mudwiggle, the counselling is helping thank you - and the drugs blush. Feel so much better than I did in December, which is a positive sign as I normally hate January!

I think I will bring dh with me to meet up, but if no one else's dh comes then I may let him go for a wander while we natter grin! I just don't fancy the commute into London with two lively boys blush grin. Especially as the last time we ventured onto a train platform DS2 tried to throw himself under an Intercity hmm.

Oh and LG is fine: "Can't open link to new thread from MN mobile app and haven't got round to it on big computer. Got new phone for xmas. All fine: house move ok I think. Also I have actually read a whole book." grin

I'll leave LG to tell you what it was grin grin!

Right, off to have another exciting food pack!

TheScottishPlayer Mon 09-Jan-12 21:43:11

Really sorry to hear you're so down Gig. It's completely understandable. I had six weeks between finishing work and having DS and I was beyond bored but I didn't haven't the mobility problems you have. Fingers crossed things are vastly improved once DD2 arrives.

Really glad to hear the counselling is helping Stitching. That's great news. I've no problem with your DH tagging along - having met your two lovely boys I can understand why you need an extra pair of hands. It'll be nice to see your DH again to.

So my train tickets are booked, so Sat 17th for a meet up then? Any suggestions for venue?

TheScottishPlayer Mon 09-Jan-12 21:46:07

Oh, what boosters did DD get Gig? DS got something (cant remember what blush) around his 3rd birthday but I didn't think he was due anything else anytime soon. Actually, I think it was his MMR booster.

LaGuerta Mon 09-Jan-12 23:11:11


Here I am. blush

All fine with us I think. I have just been on a bit of a social networking holiday for a couple of weeks. Mainly because I got a new phone for Christmas and was then too lazy to re download the apps and remember all the logins to them etc. So, I have been wasting my Internet time by cruising the sales, but mostly not buying anything. After days of my life looking for a great deal on a new buggy I have just ordered this: newbuggy
It's not meant to be as good as a. BJCmini, but then it is a fraction of the price and I only wanted to spend £50-£100. It arrives tomorrow. Eek. I am not a pram nut at all and apart from six months with a double have made do with one Chicco travel system that we bought ex display before DS1 was born. The Chicco now has no effective brake and squeaks wherever it is taken. Can you tell I am still trying to justify it to myself?

I have also ordered some knitwear from the Great Plains sale as per the S&B board recommendation. Some big bargains but the prices go up as well as down.

As far as I can tell all is fine with the house move. I am still waiting for confirmation from the new buyers that they are happy with the survey results. Our house is a wonky Victorian end of terrace so there is certainly scope to get worried although IMO the house isnt about to go anywhere. Theoretically we are meant to exchange in two weeks shock. I will believe it when it happens.

I am certainly not packing. However I have made a few feeble attempts to get rid of unwanted stuff. I am mindful that we will end up taking a lot of unwanted stuff to a bigger house and then never have any incentive to get rid of it. So far I have freecycled a spare ironing board and two presents that my Mum has given me for various Christmases blush <bad daughter>. I also binned some of the plastic rubble that my children have amassed but doesn't seem to have a purpose.

I should be here on 17 March one way or another and would love to meet up. Actually there is a slim chance of going skiing in March, but it seems more likely that by the time the move goes through we will be officially skint. Do we have to bring children? I am much more in favour of drinking wink, but will bring mine if it is essential.

Gigondas - really sorry that these last few weeks as proving miserable for you. I would love to come and see you but my boys aren't going to make for restful playdates, so probably better not to. You will get lots of good drugs post c section, by the time I had stopped taking them I realised that my SPD was gone. Hope you have a similar experience.

Ah, baby names...

Grace - a gorgeous name but I don't think it matches your DD1's name these days in terms of being special or distinctive. I mean that it has had a bit of a glut in popularity in the last ten years. In particular I think of a vile teenager that I mentored when I was still working, and a Gracie at DS's nursery school whose mother dresses her (she is 2) in patent diamanté lelli Kelly boots, fake fur coat and nail varnish.

Lilian/Lily - lovely but again I would be put off because it seems to be quite popular too. Many of the people who I know on FB seem to have named their child Lily

Violet - goes well with DD1. Is it a bit botanical in combination with Ivy? Same is true of Lily thinking about it.

Eloise - very pretty, my favourite

Amy - I am liking this more and more in the last year or two, largely because it is the name of my best friend's DD.

Random names that I like that might "fit" are: Constance/Connie, Beatrice, Elspeth, Vita (just a weird one that I have a soft spot for but will never be allowed to use)

Mudwiggle - I am surprised that you have wobbles about DS2's name. I think it is a great choice. I am looking forward to seeing you soon.

Deb - happy packing.

Leo - so is David Cameron being naughty on the independence question? (I seem to think that you aren't in favour, but then you aren't such a big fan of DC either)

Stitching - thank you for texting me. I realised I was AWOL and needed the kick. Glad you are feeling better.

The book that I read was... this grinblush. It was very easy reading and I enjoyed it, but given that I haven't read a whole book during 2011, easy reading is what I need. I really miss reading.

Mudwiggle Tue 10-Jan-12 05:21:56

Hello LaG! I love the name Vita.

Good old JB! I didn't know she did adult books. Just jumped on local library website and reserved it, I need some easy reading too. Recently read the Hunger Games (teen book) before the film came out and quite enjoyed it.

StitchingMoss Tue 10-Jan-12 12:00:01

Hmm, not sure about Vita - makes me think of margerine for some reason! blush

I was also suprised at your wobbles about DS2's name Mudwiggle - what would you have gone for instead? I wish wish wish I had put my foot down about DS1's name but it's far too late now sad.

PMSL at "do we have to bring the children"! grin I'm assuming that SP's DS will be there so might want some company grin.

On a more serious note, can someone please tell me to pull myself together after my visit to the doc this morning blush. I have a sore spot on my tongue and a sore throat, both of which haven't cleared up for about three/four weeks. The doc was very vague, gave me some ABs but said she wasn't to see me in a week if it doesn't go away and she's going to refer me to a facial consultant. I've now convinved myself that I have cancer as both are symptoms of mouth cancers sad. I'm really scared and I know I'm being stupid but I think it's because I'm low anyway that I'm being so irrational. Also my friend died of cancer at 39 so it's always been a big milestone for me. Please tell me not to be so stupid sad blush.

StitchingMoss Tue 10-Jan-12 12:02:16

wants not wasn't

StitchingMoss Tue 10-Jan-12 12:13:49

Sorry, reading that back I realise how melodramatic it sounds - bloody google blush.

Gigondas Tue 10-Jan-12 12:14:24

I really like both ds2 name mud and ds1 name stitching.

And Its my turn to say stop worrying stitching - and no googling! At least Gp is Doing something - it could well be something horrid and recurrent like a fungal or viral infection which would explain why it isn't shifting. Also of the two people I know who had facial type cancers , it took a long time to develop (in one case was made a lot worse as didn't get help) and both were treated. So I know it's worrying but I do think part of that is that you are focussing on this now (understandably) and therefore it's hard to contain it. Also you are getting help -chances are its not what you think but getting help is the best thing to do.

Thanks for offers of visits - will let you know stitching. And I don't mind boisterous visitors lag as long as they don't expect me to join in. Feeling bit more
Upbeat today.

Lag I am glad that move is pressing on finally and new pushchair seems good (we refurbed our old one and got a new one so eBay time I think when baby bigger).

The names suggestions are all really helpful.

grin at book- were you not tempted by latest sweet valley High book?

StitchingMoss Tue 10-Jan-12 12:27:47

Thank you Gig blush. I know I'm being irrational and silly and dh has just told me the same thing - and also reassured me he'll still love me if I can't talk blush. He actually said it would have it's advantages but got slapped for that grin.

I love DS1's name but unfortunately so does everyone else - it is sooo fecking common and I hated being one of 5 of my name at school. He is already one of four at pre-school sad. Ho hum, dh has a common name and says he doesn't care so maybe it is a girl thing smile.

TheScottishPlayer Tue 10-Jan-12 12:54:19

Hi everyone, ooh, where to start...

As appealing as a drinking meet up would be, yes, I will have DS in tow and he'd probably appreciate some company grin. I've booked my train tickets so am free throughout the day on Sat 17th March.

On the referendum, you're right in that I'm no fan of DC LaG but I do think that we should have the referendum sooner rather than later and that their needs to be a consensus between the major parties about the date, the question and who gets to vote. It's too important an issue for Scotland for it to be engineered to suit any one party's agenda which is what is seems like to me that the SNP want to do.

Stitching - on your GP visit, I think that you're probably worrying unnecessarily but I appreciate why it's bothering you. As Gig says, your GP is going to refer you and I'm sure she thinks it is likely to clear up. I'm a bit obsessed by anti-biotics and always insist on getting a swab for bacterial infection before taking them (partly because my GP has on several occasions tried to insist on giving me antibiotics for a specific type of infection that has always, without fail, cleared up on it's own and swab tests always show that it isn't bacterial).

On boys names - I like all your boy names Mudwiggle and Stitching. However, I'm with your DH Stitching - I don't think boys are bothered about other people having the same name. Anyway, even if you had chosen something not so popular all you need is a celeb to choose the same name and they're everywhere you look. Classic names like your DS's wont date in the same way that a more unusual name that becomes trendy do. Also, a slightly less popular name is no guarantee - DS's is hardly popular and hasn't risen in the baby name charts (not that I check blush ), but I keep meeting people who have someone with that name in their family. On the celeb front Gig, has Beyonce using Ivy made you swither at all on that as a middle name?

On reading, grin at JB - I too want to read more this year. I got a kindle for Christmas and managed a whole book before the New Year! Can't remember what it was called, although I quite enjoyed it. If I remember, I'll post the title.

Right, I must get back to work so big waves to all and I'll look forward to reading some suggestions for meetup. And also, glad you're feeling a bit better today Gig.

Gigondas Tue 10-Jan-12 12:57:32

Yes ivy off the list now which is a shame as is a family name.
Agree that need to have a referendum - I wonder if the eu referendum calls
Will come back If the likely changes in eu go ahead this year.

TheScottishPlayer Tue 10-Jan-12 18:39:45

That's a shame if it's a family name Gig. Is it a definite no-no for you now? By the time your DD is all grown up, the fact that Beyonce had a daughter with the same middle name would be forgotten I'd have thought.

I made the mistake of reading a thread about the independence referendum on here and really wish I hadn't. Some comments really sickened me. There's so much lies and mistruths out there, and I think it's really damaging people's perceptions of Scotland (and vice versa). The thought of independence really scares me! (I'm eyeing up Cardiff as an alternative grin)

Deb - when's your move?

LaGuerta Tue 10-Jan-12 18:49:54

When did Beyonce have her baby. I missed that.

Gigondas Tue 10-Jan-12 18:56:55

Saturday- clearly --you don't have time
To read shit I do-- are more highbrow in your news reading wink
Baby girl called blue ivy ...

disguisedeb Tue 10-Jan-12 22:55:58

Gig, sorry you're so fed up, how many sleeps is it now until baby?

LaG, if you're theoretically exchanging in 2 weeks, where are you moving to?

Stitching, how was the gardening course, did you kill any plants?smile, loved your ds's comments

Mudwiggle, hope your ds had a good birthday.

SP, we get the keys on 27th , and have a few days cross over with this place so I'm hoping to be in properly by 31st.Going to measure windows tomorrow, with it being new there are no curtain poles.

disguisedeb Tue 10-Jan-12 23:06:42

also gig, what happened with the piano christmas present, did your dd ever see it?

LaGuerta Wed 11-Jan-12 09:37:00

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Gigondas Wed 11-Jan-12 12:33:52

The piano is upstairs waiting for baby or preferably deportation to France. So I chickened out wink

Replies re meet up Scottish- might have some issues with that day but will try to sort.

What is most urgent in terms of refurb lag?

Had nightmare time getting into hospital appt yesterday (baby fine). Involved a train journey (quickest way to get there) which was torture- am sure people thought I was in labour on train (certainly got some lovely looks from one woman hmm). Then nearly fainted (stopped by dr) at hospital as was doing consents- I am very squeamish so surgery talk Set me off. So am on a stay near home policy now.
Better news is dr thinks that giving birth (ESP as less weight) and stronger pain mess will make it manageable post birth and will make sure physio checks me
Out. Also offered to do it early if really gets too much but think I will stick with next week if I can.

LaGuerta Wed 11-Jan-12 16:53:19

That sounds horrible Gig sad

The house is liveable as it stands. It will need to be thoroughly cleaned and we could move in. The vendors are splitting up and they have let their 5 kids go a bit feral so it needs a complete cosmetic overhaul. However the layout is just wrong so there is a bigger medium term project to move the kitchen from the dark north facing front to the south facing rear. I will be impressed if get that done this year based upon the speed that we have renovated our current house.

Gigondas Wed 11-Jan-12 16:56:50

That doesn't sound too bad if it's mainly cosmetic with some longer term projects . I think sometimes it helps to live somewhere for a while so can see what works . We had a big open plan loft with a glass ceiling - lovely (it was part of when the house was an art school) but impractical. Space was too big , too hot in summer and too cold in winter so we divided it in two and put a shower room in. Now use it a lot more but wouldn't have thought to do that when first moved.

LaGuerta Wed 11-Jan-12 22:13:42

I think that's right Gig - that living in it for a bit can help. There are a number of different configurations that the ground floor could be changed to, I think we will need a spell of musing about it before making a decision. Also, we are very slow to get these projects moving.

disguisedeb Thu 12-Jan-12 10:36:11

LaG -I think I remember that house, I assumed with the time it was taking with yours that you'd have lost out, so that's really good news.So are you on track for school applications then?

Gig, here's a ((hug)) for you, how are you feeling today

Stiching, you get one too ((hug)), I never even mentioned your sore mouth, how is it now, any better with the AB's?

I know we don't normally do the hug thing but if I lived closer you could have one irl.

Everything Ok here apart from having some wobbles about our new rental house, we went to see it to measure up yesterday and aren't sure of it's actually been ever signed off with building regs?It was built 2 years ago, 1st builders went bust, someone else took over and it's now in the hands or a repossession company. Couldn't see any sign of insulation in roofspace and it was soooooo cold in the house. I know it's been empty but it seemed very cold for a brand new house.I'm still desperate to move and the boys have already planned their bedrooms.

LaGuerta Thu 12-Jan-12 11:29:48

Oh no Deb that doesn't sound great. Can you check the building regs out with the council? They should have all of that available for conveyancers and probably the public too confused.

You see the house is in such a mess that it had been in the market for a few years so there wasn't too much chance of anyone else snapping it up. I worry that we like it and no one else does hmm. That must say something about us.

I think schools is ok. W Sussex have a late apps date of 1 March which you have to have exchanged by. I have just been on the phone to Surrey LEA though checking to see whether I should apply here pre 15 Jan just in case... Eek!

Gigondas Thu 12-Jan-12 12:08:27

Lag this place was on market for a while as divorcing couple left it sort of 90% done (a lot of quick paint cover up). I think new place will be great ESP once you have got it way you want and a lovely area to live. What is verdict on applications locally? Also do you know which schools you like in new area?

Deb- house is likely cold if left empty. It's amazing how different it feels If no heating on.

I should get up now - tempting as it is to carry on Staying lieing down.

LaGuerta Thu 12-Jan-12 12:17:57

If you don't have to get up stay on bed! It's where I would be with a good book given the choice.

I can apply here now and there once we have exchanged (and withdraw Surrey application). I think this is what I will do.

The three schools there are all outstanding or good. We could well not get into the closest one in the village and walking distance because it is voluntary aided and very very good. Definitely will be my first choice. The next most likely to get into (just gone up to 90 intake) is also outstanding but I didn't like the vibe so much. It felt chaotic. It also is infants only and the onward junior school doesn't have a great reputation or ofsted. So my second choice will be the "good" school in the opposite direction which feels ordered and caring, and small enough for the children to be individuals. It is also primary so goes through to 11.

Gigondas Thu 12-Jan-12 12:20:40

I would definitely go for one that goes to 11 - e will have to change at 7 which is manageable but in an ideal world would prefer to wait til 11.

Might hit the kindle store now lag. Let's face it this time next week dd2 could be here.

LaGuerta Thu 12-Jan-12 14:01:30

Exactly! I can recommend Judy Blume!

I have just asked MNtech to remove my post from yesterday about the house. I named the village which is a bit of a distinctive name and I don't want it to show up on future searches that MNetters may do.

Gigondas Thu 12-Jan-12 14:02:41

Fair enough re removing post- I have done same myself.

I really do need to sort my hospital bag at some point - lazy arse emoticon (I did go down and have lunch/play with dd).

Gigondas Fri 13-Jan-12 18:30:59

What is happening re school apps lag?

StitchingMoss Fri 13-Jan-12 19:37:28

Thank you for the kind words about my health worries, and the hug Deb smile. The ABs haven't made any difference at all so I have another appt with the GP next Thursday. Thankfully dh and I decided to spend the money on BUPA cover with his work so I can get referred quickly. I know with my socialist credentials this may seem like the height of hypocrisy, but we decided we'd be rather screwed if I was out of action for any length of time because we have no one else to provide childcare blush.

Deb, sorry to hear about your housing woes - any updates?

Gig, meant to say, if Ivy is a family name I would still use it. No one will link it with Beyonce's ridiculous celebrity child daughter at all. If you were going to call her Blue I would perhaps gently try and persuade you otherwise grin!

So first weight in last night.

<drum roll>

9 lbs grin!

Right off to list all my CDs on Magpie!

Gigondas Fri 13-Jan-12 19:45:12

Thats great stitching re weight grin and I think getting a quick appt so you know where you are is best way to go.
Be warned magpie is addictive -
There is a barely a cd or DVD left here now smile.

Very sore and fed up - was crying in bed at 4am this morning sad . Baby can't come soon enough as hopefully will ease things (will weigh less and have access to wine painkillers). Feeling a bit easier after quiet day but I have new sympathy /admiration for anyone who has spd/PGp ESP thru a pregnancy.
Any good weekend plans ? Won't shock
You to know not much planned here aside from braving hospital trip to do pre birth stuff on Sunday - dh driving as decided that was easier than the train ride of
Horror . Dh has been elaborately planning most comfortable way to let me sit which seems to be based partly on research on how they moved beached whales and partly on what people who sleep in vans on mattresses do (he seems to think as car has dark glass no one will notice someone slumped in back - I am not sure what to thinkconfused).

StitchingMoss Fri 13-Jan-12 20:02:47

Aw, bless you Gig, big (((((((hugs))))))). It really does get sooo much better once you've given birth. I think the high of the birth, the painkillers and the needs of a newborn all help! My exercises have really paid off too as I could progress onto pain-free lunges this week which I was very chuffed with. Hoping to be running by the Summer smile. There is life after SPD I promise - but the sleep is dreadful so rest whenever you can (No getting out of bed when you don't need to! grin).

Good luck with the hospital visit on Sunday. Nothing planned here - another quiet one. Our last quiet weekend for months so making the most of it!

grin re the CDs/DVds - dh is out hence doing it tonight. He's a dreadful hoarder but also will want the money so I'm hoping if I do it now he won't be tempted to keep all the crap old ones we've been hanging on to for years!

Gigondas Fri 13-Jan-12 20:15:16

Dh was like that too til he saw how much some of his old crap vintage cds were worth.
Am sure it will be fine in due course but you know how you can't see that at time . Am resting up and thinking ahead for my night shift strategies (i cant seem to sleep the whole night so maybe it's some kind of training regime )

StitchingMoss Fri 13-Jan-12 20:32:39

Yes, I gave up on sleeping towards the end - read loads of books, knitted, watched tv, surfed the 'net. Dh moved to the spare room so he got a full night's sleep and I could rest in the day. Sucks doesn't it sad.

TheScottishPlayer Fri 13-Jan-12 20:38:12

More un-MN style hugs from me too Gig. It must be awful. I hope the journey to the hospital is ok - how long will it take?

Well done on the weight loss Stitching! I'm still watching my Shred dvd gather dust!

How's things with the move progressing LaG? I agree on the living somewhere for a while before deciding on any changes, especially with big projects.

Any update date on the house for you Deb?

Don't be embarrassed about BUPA Stitching - if it makes you feel any better, I had it once myself wink. For me, the absolute no is private ed, but while I don't agree with private health care per se I'd go private for DS in a heartbeat if I had to.

I need to get on to magpie too - I've got a whole load of CD's I want to get onto iTunes first and then time for a clear out!

Nothing too exciting this weekend - museum tomorrow with DS, casual dinner at friends tomorrow night and studying sad on Sunday. I'm finally going to start writing my management report (dissertation type doc). It's only about 3 years late blush

StitchingMoss Sat 14-Jan-12 20:41:36

Thanks SP smile.

Just made nearly £100 on Magpie - and still more to do! Result smile.

Good luck with the studying tomorrow x

TheScottishPlayer Sun 15-Jan-12 09:37:08

£100! That's good. How many CD/DVDs did you send? Had dinner at friends last night which was unexpectedly a late one so feeling a bit weary this morning - I don't think much progress will be made on the studying front. Scanning in cd's to magpie might be as much as I could manage grin

LaGuerta Sun 15-Jan-12 16:23:55

School application completed last night. At the 11th hour I put a different school in as 3rd choice. Eek! I took out the one I don't especially like but is second closest and has a 3 class intake on the basis that we are likely to end up there anyway so effectively it becomes the fourth choice.

We visited the new village yesterday, introduced ourselves to the neighbours. Poked round the garden of the now vacant new house (no surprise that iinside and outside is a bit of a mess). Quite excited. Also worrying that something is going to go wrong this week. We are meant to exchange a week tomorrow.

Feeling in need of sleep this afternoon but no chance of getting any. Aerobics this morning and not enough sleep at night (at any point in the last 3.5 years)

Ummm....apart from flogging CDs how is everyone.

Stitching - can you move after Zumba?

Gigondas Sun 15-Jan-12 16:38:10

That seems like a really sensible plan to give yourself an extra option lag.

Impressed by aerobics story and sympathy re lack of sleep - have pretty much given up on that now.

Re magpie, I think we made about £200 quid in end - that was for probably a couple of hindered cds , about 70 DVDs and some of dss old games. The odd choices seemed to make most - for instance the George formby DVD my sister bought as a joke one Xmas was worth about £4. Who knew?wink

Managed to get to hospital slump by car slumped on a camping mattress - dd seemed to think this was perfectly normal and was quite keen to tell mw how big her sister was . So all in all I couldn't feel much more blooming and glam in late pregnancy wink. Dh has promised photos of this inelegant method of transport.

Mw nice tho (as Is likely on duty when I am there as is head mw). Has said they will help with feeding post c section and proper anti inflammatory for leg . I have dumped in a basket packed hospital bag too. Any tips on what I should take as have forgotten all this?

disguisedeb Sun 15-Jan-12 23:54:27

Lag - exciting, meeting the new neighbours, what are they like?Fingers crossed for your choice of school.

Stitching, wow, well done on the weight loss, that's great.

Gig - is the camping mattress staying in the car now until the birth, just in case? Remind me of the date again.
hospital bag - nightie, old pants, clothes for you, slippers, feeding bra, nipple cream, baby stuff,some nice smellies for you, hand cream, chocolate, camera, present for E from baby (if you're doing that), I can't remember what else I took blush, can it really be so long ago?

LaGuerta Mon 16-Jan-12 07:16:34

Post section dh was sent to tescos by the mw to get special post section paper pants that are high enough to stop well above the scar. However he couldnt find any big enough for me blush so I ended up just wearing extra large normal pants from M&S and was careful that the waistband didn't rub on the dressing.

Are you allowed to take a cd for them to play when you are in theatre? I think they might do this for electives. As an emergency we just got Galaxy FM or somesuch. "Don't you want me baby" was playing when DS1 was born grin.

I will come back and post if I think of anything else.

Deb - neighbours seemed nice. About late 50s-60s with grandchildren.

Gigondas Mon 16-Jan-12 07:31:51

Thanks for tips -I do have some big pants and paper pants as was suggested by another friend. When I think about the planning (and unnecessary kit) I took last time , we are definitely already into nsb territory . And yes deb the mattress is staying in car ...

Good neighbors sound ok as that makes a difference lag.

Not much else to report here- dd got cold and being quite high maintenance so
Not sure anyone that active at home today.

TheScottishPlayer Mon 16-Jan-12 07:47:18

One of the over-rinding memories of DS's birth was the sight of DH laden like a pack horse with all my stuff when we transferred to the ward. And that was just the labour bag - I had a post birth bag in the car grin

I used hardly anything I took apart from bendy straw, few magazines, cheap nightie to labour in and some cheap supermarket pants from sainsbury's which were surprisingly soft and comfortable.

TheScottishPlayer Mon 16-Jan-12 07:47:52

Rinding??? Overriding obv.

LaGuerta Mon 16-Jan-12 12:03:25

I am not kidding that my NCT teacher gave us a hospital bag list that included:

"Something to remind you of home such as a picture or pot plant" hmm

I would love to see the mw's reaction to DH turning up with a yucca plant under his arm.

Gigondas Mon 16-Jan-12 12:11:06

grin at thing to remind you of home. It's like the tips on candles or make up. Please tell me I am not the only one who thought having a shower was a triumph of will in early days.

Scottish- did you have snuggle for your bugaboo when s was little? How Long did it last for? I am most impressed with it (having sneered at expensive push chairs I am a bit besotted) as looks useful as can take it off like a mini moses basket.

TheScottishPlayer Mon 16-Jan-12 14:49:25

Quick post - we had some kind of bugaboo newborn insert which was called something like a cocoon? I'd definitely recommend that as it was nice and cosy and meant DS could like flat without straps (the cocoon attached to the buggy). I probably used it for a minimum of 3 months but probably quite a bit more.

Gigondas Mon 16-Jan-12 15:09:25

That's the thing scottish- just wanted to
Check I hadnt been taken in

Gigondas Mon 16-Jan-12 19:41:01

And just knew you wouldn't be able to resist this gove threads stitching grin

StitchingMoss Mon 16-Jan-12 19:59:05


TheScottishPlayer Tue 17-Jan-12 21:51:44

Hey Gig, how are you feeling today? It's getting closer! You're not being sucked in on the cocoon, i'd say it was essential if you're planning on using the pram from newborn stage. I guess other companies probably make similar substitute things, but it fits the pram perfectly and is very cosy. I'd send you mind to borrow if I knew which loft it was in (have stuff stashed in 3 different lofts). What colour did you go for btw?

LaG - I hope the packing is going ok.

Stitching - I don't think I said congrats on the weight loss! Have you recovered from Zumba?

Mudwiggle - how's the preparations for the big move coming along?

Deb - any update on the house situation?

Not much to report on here. Trying to order some blinds but the website isn't playing nicely. Paid Christmas credit card bill. Ouch. <makes note to double increase wine budget in next year's christmas spreadsheet>.

However, I can report that DS has turned into such a 'boy's boy' if such a thing exists. Despite trying not to encourage any gender stereotypes over the years I appear to have grown a DS who likes playing baddies, shouting 'pee-ow' (gun sound), lots of very rough and tumble, and lots of 'that's for girls'. How did that happen? I'm thinking nursery children with older siblings!

Gigondas Tue 17-Jan-12 22:17:47

Am sore but ok thanks Scottish. And cocoon will go on eBay when done with it as I am pretty definite it will be no more for me after this one.

We have a lot of that's for boys/girls which I try to ignore but notice she is as happy if not happier playing with boys as girls so that encourages me. Will also join in the shooting type games if on offer.

How is everyone else doing? If dont get on before Thursday I promise to update as soon as I can.

TheScottishPlayer Tue 17-Jan-12 22:41:38

That's nice hear re your DD and playing with boys. DS had a lot of girl pals at nursery, but I'm getting the vibe from the mums about liking their girls playing with other 'nice' girls sad He does have one other good girl pal which I'm pleased about and who comes for playdates etc. They're so young to be separating into boy/girl camps.

StitchingMoss Wed 18-Jan-12 07:57:35

SP, DS1 is doing exactly the same thing and I also think it's pre-school and boys/girls with older siblings. He has three very good friends at pre-school (the staff call them the Four Muskateers cos they're so close!) who strangely all are the youngest of three boys, so no sisters and lots of influence from older brothers about games/girls being horrible, etc. Thankfully his best buddy in our NCT group is a girl and while we've had a few "boys/girls" things with our NCT kids we've been able to have lots of chats about how we can all be friends, etc.

However, from my recollection of the boys/girls thing as a teacher, they do tend to split down gender lines for quite some time now - it's not really until they're in the top of KS2 that the boys and girls started interacting properly again - although this can obviously be managed within the classroom, it's less easy to affect in the playground. Just life I suppose sad.

Can't believe Gig's DD2 is arriving tomorrow smile - so excited for you Gig x Hope all goes well - will text later.

Have my follow up GP appt tomorrow - another lump has appeared in my mouth (not an ulcer) so now utterly freaking blush. Going to push for an urgent referral to get some reassurance sad.

Oh and the Zumba was only on Wii not a class as such! smile But I did ache blush.

Gigondas Wed 18-Jan-12 08:21:31

Hi stitching - I hope you get a quick referral and stay away from google. But I can see how worrying it is for you .

I think girls/boys thing is a bit inevitable sadly (ESP as e school is girls only next year) but try not to encourage it. I don't know if more conscious of trying to avoid it stitching when you have just one sex. What do you reckon?

I can't get my head round tomorrow either - couldn't sleep last night . Not exactly scared but full of hormones and silly thoughts (I am very squeamish so doing consents and birth plan set me off)) and also worry about what might happen (not helped by waking up to feature on still birth on radio). But am sure will be fine.

Having minor dramas here- e has sore eye and isn't taking to having eye drops well. There are times when having had cats/dogs gives you useful tips on handling tricky patients grin

StitchingMoss Wed 18-Jan-12 09:22:15

I think pre-birth nerves are totally understandable Gig - and radio programme wouldn't have helped sad. Not long now though and all those worries can be put behind you - to be replaced by a whole load more as my IVF consultant once said grin!

Do you know what time your section is tomorrow?

Yes, think single-gender families do make it slightly trickier wrt to reinforcing stereotypes as the boys don't have a sister at home to see that actually there are many things that are the same about us and lots of things that are different, but that's ok, IYSWIM. Doesn't help the we currently live in a 1950s house with wifey at home and daddy doing the man thing of going out to work hmm.Can't be helped at the moment but I do keep reinforcing to DS1 that lots of mummies work and do important jobs and daddies do housework too (true in this house luckily! grin).

Gigondas Wed 18-Jan-12 09:34:44

Just been on phone to my therapist who is calming me down and helping allay my fears. Section meant to be about this time tomorrow assuming no emergencies etc (others not me) and baby hasnt turned (fairly sure she hasn't but thanks google/Mn for putting that idea in my head).

Think you and dh have a partnership which however you feel isn't a 1950s thing so boys won't pick up that much. And something will come up re jobs but I know it's getting you down .

Am impressed re zumba but then again my aim is to walk up and down stairs without limping

disguisedeb Wed 18-Jan-12 09:55:22

Gig, I'm so excited for you, must be weird to know that this time tomorrow you will be a Mummy to 2. Good luck, stop worrying and rush back home so you can post on here and send us photos.

Stitching, step away from google. Hope your appt comes through soon to put your mind at rest.

just about to call estate agents, but have found out that it has passed building regs but them maybe the builder took out the insulation hmm, have spokent o them now and not much further on, which is just as well as I've still only packed one box.

StitchingMoss Wed 18-Jan-12 14:22:24

Oh no Deb, what a nightmare sad.

Thanks for the kind words - not googling and now starting to think my tongue feels a bit better hmm. Just being daft sad. Had a very strange dream about my friend's widower last night, that his new wife had died too sad and forgot to say another friend of mine (and old neighbour from previous house) was diagnosed with incurable bone cancer on Monday so probably all just a bit too much. May speak to doc about upping my meds a bit as starting to feel very wobbly again sad.

New baby for Gig will help lift my spirits smile.

Gigondas Wed 18-Jan-12 15:44:47

Deb when will they get back to you re insulation?

Stitching you can have a nice cuddle with no2 whenever you want to visit if that would help. Are you still seeing your counsellor? I think you should discuss it with her as worrying though lumps are , it's clearly bothering you a lot and making you think worse and maybe you need to unpick the thought patterns that make you go there.

I may be off the mark here but have just had a (quite correct) lecture at winding myself up about op tomorrow from therapist (know not quite the same but it is a pattern of behaviour that gets me spiraling down bad thoughts )

LaGuerta Wed 18-Jan-12 16:13:47

Gosh - so much going on.

I have just felt a real surge of happiness and excitement for you Gig when I realised that it's TOMORROW grin

Stitching I am sorry to hear about your friend, and your troubling dreams, and that you are still worried about your mouth. I would speak to your GP and counsellor to check both the physical stuff out again and have a look at the emotional stuff. Just a thought - have you checked out the side effects of the ADs in case they can cause mouth ulcers?? You need to get some peace of mind on this one way or another. <hugs>

Deb - that's rubbish about the insulation. Builders hey angry what's next?

Our house woe today is that our buyer is going to bring a builder round this Saturday to review stuff from the survey that she received two weeks ago. We are meant to exchange on Monday, so clearly that looks doubtful.

Right... Focus of gigs baby, focus on gigs baby, focus on gigs baby smilesmilesmile ....feel better now and have restored perspective....

Gigondas Wed 18-Jan-12 16:50:07

Builder on Saturday ?? Was there anything that exciting in survey

I do feel for you- at least they give you drugs for childbirth , maybe they should do same for ea and annoying buyers.

LaGuerta Wed 18-Jan-12 17:04:44

Nothing that they are prepared to specify.

Do I have to tidy up my house one more time

The drug that will be consumed this evening is called gin

TheScottishPlayer Wed 18-Jan-12 18:38:26

Gosh, you lot have been chatty today! Stitching, I'm sorry your still having problems with your mouth - that sounds like a good suggestion from LaG to check side effects from your meds. I do hope you get a quick referral and get your mind put at rest. I'm so very sorry to hear about your friend. (((hugs)))

Tomorrow Gig! Exciting! I hope you manage to get a good night's sleep. I can appreciate why the news story this morning didn't help. I'll be thinking about you tomorrow and will look forward to an update when you can. You can have some (((hugs))) too grin I hope we can work out the logistics so that as well as meeting you and DD in March I can get a cuddle with your DD2 too!

LaG - what a pain about having to tidy the house again! I hope the gin helps. (I read this earlier today, so I hope it was you that was planning on gin!). Deb, sorry that you're no nearer moving. How are things on the purchase side of things?

Not much going on here, except finally ordering blinds for the bathroom and kitchen! Found some grey/blue ones that will work in the bathroom and have gone for a jute blind for the kitchen (it was hard to find a fabric one in a colour that would match - cream walls, cherry wood kitchen that I hate , green wall tiles and dark grey slate type floor tiles. Now I'm contemplating new curtains for the patio doors. The ones we have just don't match and because the walls are so plain I think I need some kind of pattern which is tricky for me as I'm a bit scared averse to patterns and colour in home decor. I don't have the gene which differentiates between nice and naff! I may have to post some links.

disguisedeb Thu 19-Jan-12 10:57:21

Just checking up on Gig, what time was she going in?

TheScottishPlayer Thu 19-Jan-12 12:53:12

If you haven't already, check out her fb...

Gigondas Thu 19-Jan-12 13:21:22

Am here- drugged up but happy. Eloise ivy matilda arrived at 9.23 weighing 7 2 . She is very lovely and we are both doing well. Will post more later

LaGuerta Thu 19-Jan-12 13:37:33

Hurray smilesmilesmile congratulations to you all. Lovely name too. Xx

TheScottishPlayer Thu 19-Jan-12 14:39:56

How lovely! Massive congratulations Gig - she looks beautiful. I'm quite envy that you get to have an Eloise and think it's great that you stuck with Ivy. I hope it all went smoothly and that you're not in too much pain once the drugs wear off!

disguisedeb Thu 19-Jan-12 16:07:40

Oh Gig she's lovely, congratulations and thanks for posting so soon grin lovely name too, and goes nicely with dd1, what does she think of her baby sister?

Gigondas Thu 19-Jan-12 16:51:11

Dd1 just left - to be honest she was more impressed with the new barbie dd2 bought and the chocolate biscuits I had for her. Dd1 slept through the visit ...

The belated good news is they are doing an MRI scan and getting a specialist to look at my swollen bum blush. It took
The anaesthetist to take one look at it and go off on why a specialist hadn't seen it and I had been left in pain to help start ball
Rolling (fingers crossed something comes of it as don't want this lingering issue).

Deb any update on the consents? Lag are The buyers still looking on Saturday?

Gigondas Thu 19-Jan-12 16:51:59

Sorry dd2 slept - dd1 played , ate biscuits and did a sportacus dance for a sleeping dd2

StitchingMoss Thu 19-Jan-12 19:26:40

grin grin grin

Sorry for belated congrats on MN - just returned from a lovely (but quite manic!) afternoon at LG's! Probably the last time I'll see that house sad.

Eloise looks gorgeous Gig, and so glad you're getting something done about your hip - you need to be mobile now!

Can't wait to have newborn cuddles x

disguisedeb Thu 19-Jan-12 23:12:10

Gig, thank goodness for the anaesthetist, hope they can sort out the problem and you can get home to your 2 lovely daughters. Your dd1's reaction sounds pretty typical of a 3 year old!!

In answer to your question(how have you the energy and time to think about us??) the house has passed building regs and a contractor is picking up keys soon to go and sort out the work that needs doing. Debatable whether it will be done in a week but you never know?

Gigondas Fri 20-Jan-12 01:24:46

The answer is deb that dd2 slept for most of afternoon (no prizes for guessing why I am awake now).

Specialist did come and look at my swelling. And didn't know what it was but scan booked for tomorrow.

disguisedeb Fri 20-Jan-12 11:37:14

How's the feeding going Gig? are you getting support?

Gigondas Fri 20-Jan-12 12:37:41

Feeding going ok. Whole saga about what is Wrong with my hip/bum produced a lot of tears sad thought it was meant to be third day blues.. So I am a bit of a mess today but dd2 doing well.

StitchingMoss Fri 20-Jan-12 19:55:14


TheScottishPlayer Fri 20-Jan-12 20:04:56

(((((((((((((gig))))))))))))) from me too. Hope when you read this you're feeling better. x

disguisedeb Fri 20-Jan-12 20:56:55

(((((((((((gig))))))))))), from me too, how are you feeling now?Your baby daughter is just gorgeous btw smile

Gigondas Sat 21-Jan-12 07:18:49

Hi all - hugs much appreciated . Feeling better as managed some sleep last night. Think combination of hormones etc kicked in as spent good part of day in tears (dd helped though as she is very lovely and cuddly grin).

Had MRI scan on hip/bum which was quite an event (took ages and was painful as had to lie awkwardly). Also needed a dye injection which means I have to express for a day as its no good with bf (no big deal but felt like one more thing yesterday).

The scan showed a growth:lump over a regular area (ie left buttock) but didn't identity what it was . So basically no further forwards than was hmm

Consultant being good as wants some solution on next steps for me before I go home (he is very good). Apparently there is some specialist in the hospital today that knows about this kind of thing who he is going to get to take a look if he can do fingers crossed. It's worrying and frustrating that no one seems to have any idea (had a lot of isn't it big/that's unusual type comments hmm).

The thing that worried me is that there is a remote risk it may be malignant (stitching sound familiar this worry sad). As its local regular and I am well , this seems unlikely but of course that is not what you focus on even when tell you its remote.The more likely issue (but equally tedious in. Different way) is that will need a biopsy and possibly an op which isn't ideal.

Feeling bit brighter than I was but have wobbles about it as do think worst at times despite dh pep talks. Stitching I think we will have to have worriers corner.

Dd1 seems mildly pleased with dd2 but still insists on calling her name she chose. Also (understandably) gets pretty bored on visits so not seen that much of her /dh which hasn't helped my mood.

Dh and I debated whether to get my mum to visit or help with dd1. The trouble is my mum well meaning but a bit of a drama queen so not always a source of comfort and help! ESP if knew about tests (have only told her minimum)- she had a lump on her neck removed about 6 years ago and radiotherapy treatment so whilst she would be understanding , she might also not help allay my Worst fears . Also she isn't the best at comforting when I really need it as gets too upset (was well meaning but difficult when I lost my son) .

Sorry monster self centered post- I will yet and put more pics on FB later. What is everyone else up to this weekend? Lag you have buyer coming don't you?

TheScottishPlayer Sat 21-Jan-12 08:11:16

Good morning Gig - I'm really glad to hear that you got some sleep. Sorry to hear about the mystery surrounding your lump though. It's great that you're in hospital with a good consultant though rather than waiting for referrals etc. On your mum - mine is a pain in the ass for lots of reasons but on the very few occasions I've had something going on and turned to her for help she's surprisingly really come through for me. Yours might be the same?

It must be tough not seeing too much of DH. Can you have any friends over for a visit over the w/e? I m not doing much at all this weekend so I will check in here regularly to see if you're posting and need some virtual company.

grin at DD1 still calling DD2 the name she picked. What was it?

Gigondas Sat 21-Jan-12 08:42:58

Dd2 is known as Tilly (and to be fair we called her that whilst she was a bump) - hence Matilda . She keeps correcting me when I call her namewink

Hoping to go home tomorrow which will be good as although cant fault care here, it's not nice being in hospital.

disguisedeb Sat 21-Jan-12 10:53:29

hi Gig, what a worry for you but like S says at least you're in the right place with consultants on hand. I hope they can reassure you soon. Could dd1 go for a play at one of her friends this afternoon so that dh could come in and spend some time with you both?I would be inclined to ask your Mum for help too, even if it's just to occupy dd1, is she any good at that job?

Packing here in the hope that it will be next weekend we move, heating engineer is checking the house on Tuesday and contractors also have the keys to go in now and do the other jobs. We just need to make sure everything is done before we pay the rent. We're paying the 6 months up front to get cheaper rent but obviously once they get the money they will have no incentive to come and do any jobs which need doing.

Lag - hope builder is Ok

Stitching how are you doing?How's your mouth?

SP - any exciting plans this weekend,

Gigondas Sat 21-Jan-12 11:12:44

Think waiting for jobs to be done before rent paid- hopefully hearing engineer will have some answers as last thing you want is to wait and find an issue with that. Assuming all gets fixed when is move date?

Lag I await update from today with interest.

I think re my mum I will make liberal use of her when am home and feeling less hormonal. The extra pair of hands will be welcome ESP if do need more hospital visits etc .

Dd and dh on way to visit- judging from text photos she has been using my absence to help go through my wardrobe ...grin

TheScottishPlayer Sat 21-Jan-12 19:57:44

How's today been Gig?

Hope there are no major problems following the visit today LaG.

Nothing exciting on here this w/e Deb - we've got a few busy w/e's coming up so fairly relaxed (apart from a stressful trip to soft play that I haven't got the energy to type about on my phone).

Planning on watching a film on my new apple tv tonight which I'm excited about grin

Gigondas Sat 21-Jan-12 20:02:10

Not too bad. Specialist turned up- was fine. Sorting a biopsy ASAP then seemed to think would remove it surgically. No mention of malignant was more a what is it type chat. So bit reassured . Also it definitely felt easier today- I could actually play a bit with dd which havent done since before Xmas. Could be lucky or drugs kicking in (but not on anything fancy but am hoping it's improving now not pregnant . If i could avoid major bum surgery that would be good.

Spoke to my mum who as you suggested was quite ressuring Scottish.

Now trying to catch some sleep while I can.

What was soft play story ...

TheScottishPlayer Sat 21-Jan-12 20:56:36

Glad your mum helped and that it went ok with specialist. I'm sure dd1 loved having a play with you. Any word on how long you'll be in?

Soft play - told there would be a wait of bout 20 mins. DS hard to keep occupied. 20 mins later they called the numbers that could go in. Not us angry. Another 15 mins passed and DH asked how long it would be. Told that it was impossible to say. So how come they could tell us 20 mins when we arrived? People pay for timed sessions so they should be able to work out the latest time we could go in? An hour after we arrived (and an hour before they close hmm a free for all ensued when they said everyone waiting could go in. We were first on the waiting list but had to then queue with people who'd just arrived etc to pay and go in. Gah! If they'd told us it would be up to an hour wait then we would have gone somewhere else! Just very annoying and frustrating. By the time we went in DS was overtired and grumpy so of course a complete meltdown ensued!!!

LaGuerta Sat 21-Jan-12 22:54:52

Oh Gig I am so sorry that you are having all this additional stress and upset right now. There really is no justice. Staying in hospital is rubbish, but the only crumb of comfort I can offer is that I found it very uncomfortable at home post c/s. I hadn't realised till I got home just how much I found a hospital bed (which goes up and down electronically) essential for getting in and out of bed, sitting up to feed etc. As a result I pulled a load of muscles in my stomach and was very sore for some days. I really hope that you get some answers quickly, you poor thing. Here are my hugs ((((((((((gig)))))))))) to add to everyone else's.

The buyers and the builder came this morning. All is fine. Apparently the survey had highlighted damp in the basement. The builder said there was non there and said no work was needed. The buyers seemed very keen to purchase and I think that will be the end of any discussions about the survey. Now we are all set to exchange except that there is some paperwork missing on our house to do with the building regs for the cellar conversion that the previous owner did. I am a bit worried about this, but my solicitor who is a family member is very reassuring (too reassuring - did he mess up when we purchased this house?). I may need to go to the council on Monday to see I can get copies of the paperwork myself. Once the buyers had left I felt so wrung out that I went back to bed from 10.30 till 13.00. I think I may just be a little bit stressed out about the whole thing now.

Sorry soft play was grim. I wouldn't handle having to wait to get in very well.

Deb - sounds as though the new house is getting sorted. Are you still house hunting for something to buy?

TheScottishPlayer Sun 22-Jan-12 08:34:37

Glad yesterday went well LaG. That nap sounds luxurious!

How was your night Gig?

Gigondas Sun 22-Jan-12 10:10:47

Another one glad about yesterday - I was worried so no wonder you needed a nap.

The soft play thing sounds a nightmare - dd1 wouldn't have waited 20 minutes let alone longer.

Not a bad night except has usual thing of huge feed and fussing in night and of course now is all sleepy! Her feeding a bit all over place now cos of now bf (and loves ff and is quite greedy) but will sort that when home. She is feeding which is what counts. Not in too much pain (incl swelling) which is good. I agree lag that wi miss the beds here - am being careful as really conscious that painkillers mask what you can be doing.

Home after lunch which is good.

Gigondas Sun 22-Jan-12 15:50:57

I say meant to be coming home but it's nearly 4 hours since they allegedly sent a prescription for iron tablets ...

TheScottishPlayer Sun 22-Jan-12 15:56:37

That's a complete pain Gig. Have DH and DD1 been hanging around all afternoon waiting for you? I remember it taking forever to get discharged. I hope it's not too much longer.

I'm trying to start writing my management report. It is not going well so far.

Gigondas Sun 22-Jan-12 15:58:41

So we are both having a good time wink
Yes took ages last time but didn't have a 3 year old too.
Plus milk kicked in/ was looking forward to being home so waiting making me feel most sorry for myself sad
Am sure will be better when home

TheScottishPlayer Sun 22-Jan-12 16:48:59

Yes, you'll feel much better once you're home and you can get comfortable with a decent cuppa.

I have zero motivation for my management report. And I'm very cross as we're waiting for a painter to do some plastering and decorating but he's very hard to pin down to do the work. He was supposed to be making a start today but no sign of him. Grrrr. I'm feeling more motivated to move sooner rather than later again but only because I've seen a house I like so I'm desperate to get on with the decorating so we can get a valuation done.

disguisedeb Sun 22-Jan-12 19:44:40

Gig - hope you're home now and feeling more rested. Glad consultant reassured you

SP - softplay sounds horrific

LaG - that nap sounds like it was well needed, I'm sure you have nothing to worry about , we had something similar at a house we sold with a garage conversion. It was sorted easily

IF everything is sorted at the new house then we should get keys on Friday, yes this Friday and we have packed 6 boxes.sil and bil coming Saturday to help us move.

Still looking to buy and thinking seriously about lowering my standards and settling for a cheaper, smaller house and then we would also have money to invest in a house to rent out or a holiday cottage.

StitchingMoss Sun 22-Jan-12 20:22:31

Gig, hope you're home now - sorry I've been AWOL on the thread this w/e, though we've been exchanging texts so you know I'm thinking about you smile. Really hope they get biopsy/possible surgery out of the way ASAP and you can get on with enjoying being a mummy of your two gorgeous girls.

LG, what did I say?! grin I knew it would be damp in the cellar - comes up with every single bloody Victorian terrace on the market hmm. Sorry they wasted your time and got you all stressed for nothing - hope the paperwork turns out ok. I remember being stressed about missing paperwork before but it's usually solicitors being overly cautious in covering their arses so am sure it will be ok. Not surprised you're stressed - moving house is in the top 3 most stressful life events, and doubly so when you have two pre-schoolers in tow sad.

SP, shock about the soft play - although very impressed you would go near one at the weekend grin. They are in Dante's 10th circle of hell at the best of times, but weekends and school holidays are a complete no go for us.

Deb, good luck with the move - hope it all goes smoothly smile.

The GP was pretty reassuring about my tongue (thinks it's viral, but it's still not gone away), but was very intrigued by the lump at the back of my mouth. He has recommended I go and see a dentist though as they are the experts! Will be phoning for an appt tomorrow.

Just come back from a w/e with the ILs. MIL asked me about my diet, I told her I'd lost 10lbs and she said "oh" hmm. Silly cow hmm.

Right, must get my job app done - it's due in tomorrow! shock

TheScottishPlayer Sun 22-Jan-12 21:21:13

Well done on the 10ilbs - that's amazing!

On soft play - that's usually DH's domain on the w/e but I thought it would be 'nice' hmm for a change. That'll teach me. It was a foul day here so it was really about giving DS a change to burn off some energy. To wet and windy for the park unfortunately.

I'm really glad your doctor was a bit more reassuring about your tongue. When will you see the dentist?

StitchingMoss Sun 22-Jan-12 21:55:11

Thank you smile.

Will phone tomorrow and try and get an appt this week.

disguisedeb Sun 22-Jan-12 23:38:17

Stitching, well done on the weight loss, you'll have wasted away by the time I get started

StitchingMoss Mon 23-Jan-12 07:57:59

Thanks Deb, but I don't think there's any chance of someone my size wasting away grin!

LaGuerta Mon 23-Jan-12 11:49:08

You were right Stitching about the damp <hands over prize>

Well done in the weight loss too.

Did you get home gig?

Good luck packing Deb. I hope some new houses come on the market that suit.

I think I may just have rattled a friend who I bumped into this morning by giving her my thoughts on people who start going to church in order to get into schools. blush I wish I enjoyed heated debates a bit more. I don't really like upsetting people. Ho hum... She displayed some very wooly thinking though.

So today is meant to be exchange day. Don't think it is going to happen, still outstanding paperwork to deal with. My solicitor who is married to my cousin is proving hard to get hold of angry

TheScottishPlayer Mon 23-Jan-12 12:46:02

How long is it between exchanging and moving LaG?

I hope you're all snugly at home gig.

Not much going on here - I was at the doctors about a silly symptom which, according to the nhs website could be a symptom of v serious illness. I got sent away with a flea in my ear by my GP who was very disparaging about using t'internet to diagnose. I was most put out as I am so not a google symptoms kind of person and I'm hardly ever at the docs!!! I was quite relieved though so I'll let her off.

TheScottishPlayer Mon 23-Jan-12 12:56:56

Meant to say LaG - I hate upsetting people too. I only really like heated debates with people who like heated debates if that makes sense. I'm not a fan of going to church to get into a school at all. If truth be told I'd probably advocate doing away with church schools (though DS might end up in one).

I've just deleted a huge piece on church schools and parental involvement in their local schools and deleted it in case I inadvertently offend someone grin

Gigondas Mon 23-Jan-12 13:00:16

We are all at googling symptoms which is bad. but glad Gp reassured you.

Am home and feel better for it- was bit wobbly re everything last night but think day in hospital not helped. Dd1 (cant say e really!) seems to really be getting used to Being big Sis and is very sweet. Nanny is besotted with dd2.

E doing fine and feeding going ok- have same MW who helped me last time who is establishing bf so can then move to mixed feeding .

I would just like to know what/when muscle sorted as thought I was done with hospitals for a time. Actually feeling ok today but am conscious of how up and down I am- but will take being happy for today wink

Hope you track down solicitor to sort exchange - they don't make it easy for you (bastards just same at work).

Deb that isn't very long to move in- hope they get move on re snagging. Your house buying thoughts seem sensible as two properties may be easier than finding the "one".

Mud wiggle if you are lurking hi!

Oh and Scottish the bugaboo and the cocoon are great (went for walk which is quite a feat for me given recent weeks). And dd2 still fast asleep in it.

Any tips on good stuff to sky plus at minute for night feeds?

TheScottishPlayer Mon 23-Jan-12 20:08:15

I'm very impressed that you've been for a walk gig! Do you have sky Atlantic? I think they show episodes of ER etc from years back? Good for mindless night time entertainment. Not sure what else is
on just now. I'm finding the problem with sky plus is that when you miss all the adverts you miss all the new tv show ads!!!

Did you track down your solicitor LaG?

LaGuerta Mon 23-Jan-12 22:41:41

Scottish - Yes, got hold of solicitor via email at least. Sounds promising. A bit late tonight for details. Paperwork is coming together I think.

I am sad that you deleted your bit on church schools. I am very interested in what other people think. I think I am leaning towards state education being secular.

Well done on the walk Gig. My first walk post c section was a bit unpleasant. I felt as though all my internal organs were on a spin cycle. Urghh. We have photos of it and I just look so rough.

TheScottishPlayer Tue 24-Jan-12 07:17:44

Hope you make some progress today LaG. How's the packing? I shall try and post my ramblings on church schools later, though I won't promise that they make sense grin

Going shopping, having a badly needed makeover and being treated to lunch today grin

LaGuerta Tue 24-Jan-12 07:37:19

Sounds like a nice day Scottish. Hope you dodge the snow.

Not packing - getting the movers to do it. In part I am lazy, but we're on a relocation package anyway so we're not paying ourselves.

TheScottishPlayer Tue 24-Jan-12 08:46:05

Me too - I didn't realise there was snow about today!

Excellent news re packing and relocation!

Gigondas Tue 24-Jan-12 08:48:29

Ohh nice day scottish envy
Lag - I think Packers are way forward. I was amazed how quickly they did it when
Moved here.

Walk was my up time. By 6pm I was feeling done in and feverish (can't tell if night sweats or what as no obvious sign of infection/mastitis and temperature about 38 so think may be just sign overdoing it).

Dd1 bit clingy last night- woke as had blocked nose but very upset and clingy which is unlike her so soothed her and sat with her. She has been so good and it is unsettling for her (more change in routine than dd2 I think). Still grandma is coming over and they are off to watch peppa pig .

Got biopsy appt tomorrow which is good to get it done. Also anticipating local midwife will turn up at some point- just as well it's not my first/ I had alternative support as imagine if you were struggling and had been waiting 3 days...

Sky Atlantic is a good idea - will check it out.

Stitching smile at weight loss

LaGuerta Tue 24-Jan-12 10:16:38

Ok TMI alert!

Watch that temp Gig. I would ask to get a swab (vaginal) done next time you see mw or even biopsy people. I had an infection. I sat watching Wimbledon in June in trackies, dressing gown and duvet shivering and non of us thought to do anything about it. Durr.

Eventually MW took vaginal swab and swab from cs wound which by that stage was weepy. It takes a few days to get path results back so best check it out now

Gigondas Tue 24-Jan-12 11:13:17

No not tmi lag - am going to ask my MW to check as it has crossed my mind. The thing is I have been feeling so rubbish anyway and have low iron it is all a bit mixed up.

TheScottishPlayer Tue 24-Jan-12 13:07:08

YY on checking infection.

Drama here and pfb hand holding needed. On train home to as DS has had an accident at nursery and knocked his front teeth. He needs to go to dental hospital but apparently in looks like he'll lose at least one of his front teeth. My poor baby sad

LaGuerta Tue 24-Jan-12 13:50:40

Oh no! Poor wee thing sad and poor you on your birthday. sad keep us posted. When DS1 cut his chin at nursery and they called an ambulance he bounced back v quickly, but because he is young I doubt you will be kept waiting long.

Gig having had low iron too (at the same time as the infection) I can assure you that the anaemia symptoms are quite distinct from an infection. Tired dizzy, vs, going hot and cold.

Sorry gotta start getting boys out of the house for soft play..

Gigondas Tue 24-Jan-12 14:37:29

Poor s sad hope not too bad and that he can be home soon .

MW been- no sign of infection but got to keep an eye on it. Says that fever fits common when milk comes in ESP after c section but have number to get check if still bad . agree anaemia different (also I apparently had more than average blood loss which didnt realise) but it does make you feel rough.

Now waiting for my mum... Who I invited over as much for dd1 as me. She is late .. Was meant to be going to theatre with dd but that probably won't happen . In an ideal World I would go but dont feel well enough . Am probably being oversensitive as she is still my pfb wink

TheScottishPlayer Tue 24-Jan-12 18:28:05

Thanks folks. He had his front tooth removed and was amazingly brave. Went through the whole thing (inc having gas and injections) without as much as a whimper. I'm so sad for him though and devastated he'll go through the next few years with a missing front tooth. I know there are a million worse things that can happen though.

LaGuerta Tue 24-Jan-12 19:11:28

Aww - it is very sad. At least he has another tooth to come. When Ds1 cut his chin open I felt the same. I kept thinking about how perfect he was at birth and how I couldn't keep him perfect. sad This isn't helping you feel any better right now though, but I do know how you feel even though you know there are so many other more serious things that can happen.

LaGuerta Tue 24-Jan-12 19:12:47

Gig - did your mum turn up? Glad me said you were ok. Keep taking those iron tablets!

LaGuerta Tue 24-Jan-12 19:13:06

Typo - mw not me

TheScottishPlayer Tue 24-Jan-12 19:44:09

That's exactly what it's like LaG. I felt the same when he got a scar on his eyebrow. It's a bit daft, but I keep thinking he had lovely teeth and now he'll be all gappy for years and his toothy grin will never be the same! sad

Gigondas Tue 24-Jan-12 20:43:40

Oh Scottish- how horrid for you (and how brave is s). He still looks mega cute.

disguisedeb Tue 24-Jan-12 20:43:48

Oh SP - what an end to your Birthday, the poor boy. It won't bother him though, he'll probably be quite proud of his gap and show it off! I do know how you feel though and it's not being pfb, it's just being a parent.

LaG - you lucky thing getting packers, if they finish too soon , send them here

Gig - glad it's not an infection, hope your Mum arrived before too long

Stitching, how are you today?

Mudwiggle, how many sleeps now until you're back? What have you missed the most?

Been working today in Nursery which has been lovely, my favourite age group, and i've also been asked to do tomorrow afternoon and Friday afternoon which is great smile

LaGuerta Wed 25-Jan-12 16:50:27

How is everyone today?

Gig - hope biopsy wasn't too unpleasant.

SP - how is DS today?

Stitching - how was dentists?

Deb - nearly packed? I am doing some very low level decluttering. Today I got rid of 2 board games; some finger puppets, and a serving bowl all to Oxfam. Then 4 pairs of shoes to shoe recycling bank. However I took the boys into the shoe shop to have their feet checked and it turns out DS1 needed new shoes. Doh!

Am knackered, grumpy and frustrated though. With the exception of Stitching, all my phone calls today have not been answered/returned. Whilst it was nice to have a chat with Stitiching about superman outfits I actually needed to talk to everyone else in order to buy a house. We received the contract for signature but the solicitor has put the wrong sal price in. angry

As you were.

TheScottishPlayer Wed 25-Jan-12 17:09:56

How frustrating LaG. DS has been good today - he stayed at home with DH while I went to work for a bit. He's worn out I think though, he fell asleep about 40 minutes ago on my lap bless him.

Stitching - what did the dentist say?

Gig, I hope you're doing ok today.

Nice to hear about the nursery work Deb!

I'm going to have to move DS - my leg is going to sleep!

StitchingMoss Wed 25-Jan-12 17:43:53

<runs onto thread to give LG a big hug and kiss for finding DS1 his superman outfit> grin

Yes, it wasn't the most exciting conversation - sorry about that grin. DS2 wasn't helping matters and neither was your mobile phone reception! Sorry to hear the exchange hasn't been sorted yet, but all parties are keen so I think it's just that age old problem of slow/crap paperwork hmm. Fingers crossed you have more luck tomorrow.

SP, my heart went out to you yesterday re: DS. So sorry to hear about his poor tooth - although as LG and I were saying today a boy can carry this look off much better than a girl! I will have to ask my mum if she can remember how long I was toothless for - I certainly remember it being one of the last to come through as an adult tooth cos mum was worried for a bit that it was never going to appear blush.

Talking of all things mouths, I have seen the dentist today - my tonuge is possibly two things: anaemia (sp?) which I need to go and get a blood test for and a fungal infection which I need Corsadyl for (dh has been telling me this for a month so is going to be smuggity smug when he gets home grin!). The lump is a polyp and unfortunately needs to be surgically removed sad. No idea whether this involves proper surgery, GA, LA or whatever. Will have to wait and see.

So nothing serious smile.

Gig, hope your hospital visit went ok and wasn't too sore. Big hugs again xxx

SP, would love to hear your views on church schools - I know you will all be very surprised to learn that I'm against them grin. Just been having an utterly bizarre discussion on Neenz's FB page about religion. Gave up because I was clearly banging my head against a brick wall, not to mention getting seriously patronised by an old June 08er hmm.

Can't remember what else I was going to say - need to go and feed my reprobates grin.

Oh, anyone else watching Call the Midwife? Very good.

StitchingMoss Wed 25-Jan-12 17:44:58

Oh remembered now - Deb's post about work jogged my memory (huge respect for you Deb btw - couldn't teach nursery if my life depended on it! grin) - I've got an interview next Thursday smile.

TheScottishPlayer Wed 25-Jan-12 21:29:15

Sorry Gig, I've just been reading through and I see you had your biopsy today. I hope it went ok. I'm being a bit nosy but I see on another thread you're selling some Olympics tickets - what did you have?

Stitching I'm glad it's nothing serious with your mouth. You must be so relieved.

Ok, church schools (I can't think of anything to say now, this will be a real anti-climax). My thoughts on church schools really come from my experience of attending catholic schools mostly in Scotland but also in England. We don't have CofE schools obv, and I have no idea whether there are any anglican type schools up here. Where I grew up, people didn't pretend to be religious to go to them, if anything, they just fuelled the sectarian hatred that was (is?) rife in the West of Scotland. You wouldn't dream of sending your kids to a catholic school if you weren't a 'tim'. So for that reason alone I think they should be banned! However, it may be hypocritical but I would send DS to a catholic school if it turns out to be the better school in whichever area we live in.

My experience (which is over 20 years ago to be fair grin (ooh, burns night smileys!) is that the reason church schools tend to do better is because of the ethos that grows out of being a school attached to the church community and nothing to do with the religion. There's nothing like the fear of the local priest turning up to have a word with your parents or being sent to face some scary nuns to make you behave grin. There's LOTS I don't agree with about catholicism, but there's a lot that's just good common sense citizenship (in christian religions generally) - love thy neighbour etc and I think that, and a generally community spirit, is what seeps into everything in good church schools and creates a better learning environment. They're certainly not perfect schools though (I was bullied).

In the schools I went to you knew everyone's family really - you didn't just see people at school, you saw them at mass with their family etc. So I guess essentially I think that all schools could do with a stronger sense of community and positive values. Now, I don't work in education, nor have I set foot in a school for a really long time and I know lots of schools are in strong communities etc but I think that's what makes a difference. See, not very interesting at all grin.

I do absolutely hate when people pretend to be religious to get their kids into a school. I think if you want to be part of a community it should be based on honest participation. It's also a dreadful example to set your children. Do you get them to lie about going to church or drag them along week after week but tell them it's just pretend? Or do you indoctrinate them in a faith you don't believe in? Whatever you do you're teaching them that dishonesty gets you what you want. <steps off soapbox>

TheScottishPlayer Wed 25-Jan-12 23:19:45

Ha! My ramblings on church schools have sent you all to sleep wink

StitchingMoss Thu 26-Jan-12 08:14:39

grin I pretty much agree with every word you said on church schools - although I have very strong views on the Catholic Church and wouldn't send the boys to one. Especially DS1 given his conception!

The divisiveness is what really bothers me - at the very secular schools I've taught at we've had representatives of virtually every religion you can think of in the class/school, so when we have done RE we have had someone able to give a very personal viewpoint of those religious festivals/customs we're talking about. On the other hand I used to go out with a Jewish guy at uni who went to a Jewish school and the bullshit they used to get told about Muslims was appalling angry. With no Muslims in the school the ignorance went unchallenged.

I know that's all very simplistic but Northern Ireland is a classic example of religious division starting in the classroom.

Anyway, enough of that - off to shower, drop DS1 at school and then go and collect his Captain Adorable outfit grin.

StitchingMoss Thu 26-Jan-12 08:15:13

Oh, and SP, yes I am very relieved smile.

TheScottishPlayer Thu 26-Jan-12 13:35:22

I completely understand where you are coming from on some of the teachings of the catholic church Stitching - there's plenty I don't agree with. I think I'm more tolerant of the things I don't agree with than I would be if I hadn't been raised as a catholic though. I'd like to see more balanced religious education in all schools (this may already happen in non-church schools) so that people can understand and learn to tolerate different religions more (I don't mean catholicism generally, more things like muslim faith etc). I agree with your view on NI - Glasgow is very much the same re: schools.

Loved the pic of your DS1 in his new outfit!

Gig - how are you doing today?

TheScottishPlayer Thu 26-Jan-12 13:36:24

Oh, and I think faith based schools are particularly bad at educating and teaching tolerance of other religions.

disguisedeb Thu 26-Jan-12 21:07:55

Stitching good luck for the interview

Gig - how are you?

LaG - how are house things?

SP - I agree with all you said about church schools too. The boys school in Austria was catholic and I chose to withdraw them from R.E as they were not taught about other faiths at all, it was more like Catholic sunday school.However I allowed them to join in with whole school events held in church as that was part of the school community.

LaGuerta Thu 26-Jan-12 22:23:52

Gig - hope you are ok.

SP - thanks for faith school thoughts. I hadn't thought about the sectarian angle in Scotland. Down here in an affluent town the effect of the faith schools appears to me to divide along lines of aspiration rather than religion. Some middle class parents miraculously find God once their child hits pre school age. They get into what they perceive to be the "good" faith schools and it ghettos people along lines of "class" (for want of a less contentious word). My conversation on Monday with a friend came about because she said: "When DC reaches Y2, I have decided to start going to church again so that we can get him into junior school y". It was a bit of a red rag for me as I think this is utterly hypocritical. Her view is that you should do anything to get your child the best (formal) education. I think that the first thing a child must be given in their education is a moral compass. A child whose parents are prepared to lie to get into a school are in some way failing to deliver on this at the very outset. She said something like: "But that doesn't matter because your child wont know what you have done". angry Honestly!!! I am paraphrasing the conversation. It wasn't an argument. However,I could tell though that she couldn't believe that I thought her approach wasn't in the child's best interests.

We might exchange tomorrow. Then again we might not. <groan> The paperwork is all there. Everyone wants to exchange. However I am finding the lack of urgency on the part of my solicitor (family member remember, so I can't throw my toys out of the pram) somewhat vexing. He has also sent out various documents with errors in them which is delaying things. He did the conveyancing for us before and we didn't have these problems then. I am wondering whether now that he is a partner and probably more senior he does less of the detail himself. I think he was a partner last time too...who knows..

Time for bed. Night all

LaGuerta Thu 26-Jan-12 22:41:47

And then saw this ad on my new MN local page:

faithschool grin

disguisedeb Fri 27-Jan-12 22:22:11

gig - hope you're OK

Lag - have you finally exchanged?

Not moved yet, when we went to check the house on thursday the contractors were baffled by some of the work on the house, the boiler was still in pieces, as the heating engineer hadn't got it working yet, and they were waiting for the insulation for the roof to arrive!So thankfully we don't have to move out of here until 6th, so fingers crossed this time next week we will have the keys

LaGuerta Fri 27-Jan-12 22:45:34

That's so unlucky Deb. Surely the advantage of renting is not having all this grief. Poor you.

Not exchanged. Our solicitor tried but our buyer's solicitor and assistant were out of the office this afternoon hmm. We will have to wait and see what Monday brings.

disguisedeb Sat 28-Jan-12 10:36:52

What on earth were they both doing out of the office on a Friday afternoon, surely that's one of the busiest times of the week? I'll keep everything crossed for you

Wish we were moving today, as the weather's great, forecast this week is snow, so next weekend move could be tricky!!

StitchingMoss Sat 28-Jan-12 12:38:44

Sorry to hear about the ongoing house moving woes for LG and Deb sad.

I've just a smart new haircut this morning, hoping to impress at my interview on Thursday [desperate emoticon]grin, oh and I've now lost 13 1/2 lbs grin!

Right, off to friends for the weekend - catch up tomorrow x

TheScottishPlayer Sat 28-Jan-12 13:12:09

Well done Stitching and good luck for Thursday!

Sorry about ongoing house woes for LaG and Deb.

LaG, your friend's take on going to church to get DC into a particular school is exactly what I mean. When did the middle classes get so obsessed by the quest to get into the perfect school? Perhaps if more of them sent their kids to their local school and were actively involved in the local school it would be a better school. I know everyone wants the best for their kids and I can understand people taking desperate measures to avoid failing schools, but your friend and those like her sound like it's just about 'having the best'. Gah.

Gig, I hope your absence means you're getting lots of snuggles with DD2. If you're reading this - did I tweet you yesterday? If so, I only realised it was you yesterday! If not, a random stranger (not that unusual on twitter obv) has been tweeting me grin

Gigondas Sat 28-Jan-12 14:17:28

It was me scottish - am reading and lurking but as you say enjoying rest and time with dd2 and dd1 (who is back on me and off dad - divide and rule here).

Biopsy was quick but bit sore - hear more sometime next week.

Couldn't agree more re church schools (we have one at end of our road so a lot of on your knees to avoid fees types here).

Sorry about respective house woes.

I did do a monster post but it got lost

TheScottishPlayer Sat 28-Jan-12 14:36:05

Ah, good to know! I'd been wondering for a while who that tweeter was but the penny only dropped yesterday.blush

Sorry the biopsy was sore. How are you feeling generally now? Are you getting much sleep?

Gigondas Sat 28-Jan-12 17:50:28

I even did a tweat for you wink

LaGuerta Sun 29-Jan-12 08:50:08


Sorry that the biopsy was sore Gig. Thinking of you this week. Glad you are tucked up at home with your girls.

DS2 provided us with an entertaining night last night by being sick the moment we put him in his cot at 7pm. Poor chap was so shocked. He was only sick again another two times all night. I still found myself operating the washing machine at 1.10am though! He hasn't been sick yet this morning, but not really eating.

Stitching - thank you for the sympathies on the property thread! I assume I am "the friend" of which you speak? wink

StitchingMoss Sun 29-Jan-12 19:18:49

grin at on your knees to avoid the fees - haven't heard that one before!

LG, yes it was you grin - you have my every sympathy and I truly hope it's all over for you soon. Having sold five houses now I have zero time for the ridiculous system in England that allows people to chop and change their mind all the time and hold them to ransom as you have been angry.

Just back from friends who have got an 8 yrd old and 10 yr old DD and DS - their children put ours to bed (including reading them stories) and then got them up this morning, took DS1 to the loo and entertained them both til about 8.30! shock Result! Not only that, but they sent us home with a fab wooden garage and a marble run that's bigger than DS2 grin! The dh has been best friends with my dh since they were 11 so they go way back - a good night all round smile.

Right, off to upload pics and watch Call the Midwife smile. Hi to everyone x

disguisedeb Sun 29-Jan-12 23:20:31

Gig, good to hear from you, sorry biopsy left you sore though.

stitching, good luck for Thursday, and I love call the midwife too, did you watch Birdsong after? Our boys get up with Ethan at the weekend if they hear him, which is lovely, I know we are very lucky!!

Lag - hope ds2 is better soon

SP -good weekend?

Packing here, and trying to sort out internet and tv for new house, I may be absent for a while!!

TheScottishPlayer Mon 30-Jan-12 19:32:58

Good weekend here thanks Deb. Had a friend over to stay and stayed up VERY late drinking chatting on Saturday. Bathroom finally painted! Woo hoo!

LaG I loved the on your knees to avoid the fees. I'm definitely filing that one away!

Has anyone made any progress with houses today?

Gig, loved the pic of your DDs on fb - I hope you're more comfortable now.

Mudwiggle - you must be moving soon I think?

Absolutely shattered here. Had a nice afternoon out with DH and DS to make up for birthday disaster, however, it wasn't quite the same as the grown up lunch and stress free shopping trip that I had been looking forward to last week hmm grin

Not sure if I said it last week but my big fear re: DS's missing tooth is that it makes him look really cheeky and I worry that when he goes off to school he'll get labelled as cheeky just because he looks that way? I'm probably being very silly (DH thinks so) but I can't help worrying about it. It doesn't help that he's going through a very cheeky phase!

StitchingMoss Mon 30-Jan-12 20:00:29

Aw, I love cheeky boys smile. Don't worry about it SP, teachers will learn their personalities from more than a missing tooth smile.

Gigondas Mon 30-Jan-12 20:54:59

Agree with stitching that tooth won't label his character. Dd1 going through bossy phase and keeps talking over adults so nanny and I working on that. Glad you had a nice day scotch on your take 2 birthday and a nice weekend.

Glad you liked FB stories - the story begin that was dd2 up most of night feeding (but is putting on weight - 2 ounces more than birth weight) and then dd1 got up to play with dh . Both eventually fell asleep but dh not happy. Spare room for us next night like that as dd2 woke dd1 who then wakes dh.

Am not doing too bad - follow up appt on Weds pm to get biopsy results and see what happens next . I am really worried and hope its nothing serious and can be resolved by surgery (have resigned myself to that and earlier the better as breaking my heart not being able to get out with dd1).

Lag / deb any house news?

Stitching how is interview prep done?

Gigondas Mon 30-Jan-12 20:55:22

Photos not stories blush

disguisedeb Mon 30-Jan-12 20:59:14

SP - it's usually the angelic looking boys you have to watch!!

Gig - LOVE your photo on FB smile

No house progress here as I was called in to do supply at short notice this morning so that's me out of packing for 2 days. I could have done with staying home and packing but needs must!!

Gigondas Mon 30-Jan-12 21:00:52

Deb that is good you seem to be getting work even if could use the time .

StitchingMoss Mon 30-Jan-12 22:10:29

How are you managing childcare with supply work Deb [nosey emoticon], is dh at home? Have been offered supply but childcare too complicated sad.

Gig, are you still not able to walk far then? sad You poor thing. Keep us posted on Wednesday and fingers crossed all ok and surgery booked in quick.

Interview prep fine - feel fairly confident as I know the subject well. Going out to buy a copy of the TES tomorrow just to catch up on any last minute SEN news. Deb, do you know of anything from your school contacts?

TheScottishPlayer Mon 30-Jan-12 22:12:55

Thanks everyone. I know I'm worrying about nothing.

Gig - I'm glad you don't have to wait too long for the results. I'll be sending you positive vibes! Sorry you had a tough night. I hope you all get a bit more sleep tonight.

Glad your getting some supply Deb - just typical that it's this week!

disguisedeb Mon 30-Jan-12 23:04:31

Stitching, yes dh is at home , the problem is only having 1 car but we manage (sort of) When ethan starts school he will be on the bus so that will be even easier.No current SEN news, sorry, but if I get chance tomorrow I'll ask. Barely had time to eat today, as teaching off the cuff with no planning, being Monday morning. Didn't get as far as the staffroom!

LaGuerta Mon 30-Jan-12 23:10:26

No exchange of contracts today. sad. Maybe tomorrow hmm. The hold up is our buyers. They asked for a new contract to be sent to them by our solicitor at the end of last week. The first version only had her name on it (at their request), now they both want to be on it. The new contract hasnt yet come back to their solicitor. However their solicitor has got their desposit, so it seems that they are intending to go through with the purchase. Meanwhile, our seller is getting very angsty. He has money issues we understand.

Good luck for the interview Stitching.

Deb - hope the children in the classroom are being good for you.

Gig - will be thinking of you on Wednesday. Loved the photo.

SP - glad you have had a happier few days. The tooth thing is temporary, and they will judge him on his behaviour not his looks I think.

LaGuerta Tue 31-Jan-12 18:23:22

EXCHANGED gringringrin

Complete a week on Thursday confused

Gigondas Tue 31-Jan-12 18:27:02

gringringrin that's great lag.

Nothing to report as lazy day here and my dad visited and was reassuring re hospital . Oh and If you are sleep deprived number jacks doesn't seem so bad.

StitchingMoss Tue 31-Jan-12 18:28:29

Yay and sad at the same time LG blush.

Will miss you being 40 mins away, but planning a trip to my folks in the Easter holidays so hopefully catch up then.

How exciting! Was just showing dh the details - you won't know yourself with all that space!

TheScottishPlayer Tue 31-Jan-12 19:32:00

Sheesh, you must be seriously sleep deprived Gig!!! grin How was last night?

Yay LaG! How exciting. V pleased for you grin

We're going to get our house valued and speak to a financial advisor and think about whether we should put our house on the market. The bathroom painter has just quoted a pretty cheap price to paint our living room and kitchen so I'm feeling quite spurred on. We could do it ourselves but it's just a bit of a hassle with DS.

Straw poll - how important would nice new bedroom carpets be to viewers? If we stay till next year I'd replace them but don't really want the cost and faff for the short term. They're not awful but a couple of grubby spots that could be hidden by strategically placed rugs

disguisedeb Tue 31-Jan-12 19:32:56

grin that's great news LaG

Gigondas Tue 31-Jan-12 19:35:56

I think vanish works well on dirty carpets
So I would give them a clean but wouldn't bother me overly as I think flooring not a deal breaker.

Last night not too bad with dd2 but dd1 keeps waking dh up. I am tempted to leave stair gate on (which do when goes to bed) to save dh sleep (she wakes him) but that does seem mean.

LaGuerta Tue 31-Jan-12 22:15:38

Thanks all for your congratulations.

SP - LOL that you are thinking of going on the market now. We can't have Deb as the sole house hunter!

Re: carpets: I preface this by saying that we are the people buying the shithole that no-one else wanted for 2+ years so feel free to ignore...

...however I think that as long as the carpets are clean it doesn't matter about some marks. If they were stinking of dog wee or something seriously unpleasant then it would be worth changing them, but normal wear and tear shouldn't put people off.

Agree with Gig about vanish. If it needs more than that you can hire DIY carpet cleaning machines from dry cleaners, homebase etc for £20 or so. We did it when we moved in and the colour of the water afterwards was something else.

TheScottishPlayer Tue 31-Jan-12 22:22:33

Good idea re the carpet cleaning - we did that a few years back. If I have to spend any money sprucing the place up to go on the market I'd much rather spend it on the main living areas etc or on things we can take with us.

disguisedeb Wed 01-Feb-12 16:19:53

Don't hold your breath but looks like we are actually getting the keys for the house at 11.00 on Friday smile

Gigondas Wed 01-Feb-12 16:57:24

That is good news deb.

Not such good news here- growth is cancerous so operating on it next week. Had a ct scan to see if spread to lungs - so if you can pray/fingers crossed or whatever it hasn't that would be good . Will know more on Friday pm

LaGuerta Wed 01-Feb-12 17:28:14

Gig, I am so sorry to hear that. Don't know what to say really. Thinking of you and the family. Xx

TheScottishPlayer Wed 01-Feb-12 18:25:56

Gig I am so so sorry. You're in my thoughts and prayers xx

Gigondas Wed 01-Feb-12 18:49:35

Thanks all- lots of distraction and hand holding welcome x

StitchingMoss Wed 01-Feb-12 19:38:42


TheScottishPlayer Wed 01-Feb-12 21:10:18

Distraction you say? Well, DS has just had me playing 'Santa' which involved not only pretending to visit him on my sleigh while loudly singing 'jingle bells', but also reading 2 Octonauts books in my Santa voice. Doing a gruff Santa doing tweak the bunny is quite a vocal challenge!

As for (virtual) hand holding - any time, just ask. Private messaging on fb is always a good place to shout if you need anyone - I'm never far from my iPhone so would always seem a pm pop up quickly.

Gigondas Wed 01-Feb-12 21:22:11

Thanks all and will remember that Scottish .
It could be a long 11 months as dd keeps goin on about xmasgrin

StitchingMoss Wed 01-Feb-12 21:26:23

grin at Christmas SP - like mother like son eh? wink

TheScottishPlayer Wed 01-Feb-12 21:32:21

I know! Even I draw the line at thinking about Christmas in January!!!

disguisedeb Thu 02-Feb-12 00:32:59

Oh Gig I am so sorry, but will be sending positive vibes your way for it not to have spread and a speedy removal next week. ((((((((hugs)))))))))

disguisedeb Thu 02-Feb-12 00:34:31


Ethan is still singing nativity songs too, he didn't seem to know them at the time, I think they've just sunk in wink

LaGuerta Thu 02-Feb-12 11:36:41

How are you feeling today Gig?

We are also still singing jingle bells, we wish you a merry Christmas etc. eased that it's not just me.

Good luck with the move Deb.

TheScottishPlayer Thu 02-Feb-12 16:41:51

VERY glad to hear that Christmas is alive and well elsewhere and that it's not just that DS has inherited my festive gene! I thought you'd really appreciate us talking about Christmas Deb grin

Fingers crossed you get the keys ok tomorrow Deb! How are things with the search for somewhere to buy?

LaG - when will you move? Are the boys excited?

Gig, I hope you managed to get some sleep last night. How is DD2 doing? The photos you have on fb are gorgeous. How is DD1 enjoying being a big sister? Did you resort to the gate to keep DD1 from waking your DH? I was thinking about you re: late night tv watching during feeds - not sure if you can get it anywhere but have you watched Pan Am at all? It's actually been cancelled so there will only be about 12 episodes or so but it's my new favourite guilty pleasure. It requires zero concentration and would be perfect for 2am feeds etc!

Back on Christmas (just for Deb wink) - I have posted on a Christmas thread!!! But only to tell the OP that I wouldn't buy presents before August. She wants to buy her DSs (one is 3 just now) 'main' presents now. I'd say approaching 4 is definitely the age to start holding off buying big presents till as late as possible. After the rocking chair incident I've learned that buying early is a risky strategy with young ones! How did all of your DC like their presents by the way? Any big hits or misses? I think with Christmas being so busy we probably didn't have that kind of chat. Gig, what was the present that was getting shipped to France - was it a piano? DD1 isn't playing lullabies on it at night to 'help' DD2 sleep is she?

Actually, on lullabies, DS is currently wreaking revenge for 3 years + of my tuneless dulcet tones - he now insists on singing lullabies to me. And yes, he's clearly inherited my, ahem, musical ear. grin

I'm at work so I really should get back to it!

disguisedeb Thu 02-Feb-12 19:53:18

Just a quickie amidst the packing boxes to see how you and your gorgeous girls are today Gig? Things I've enjoyed watching recently have been Stella on sky and Birdsong on bbc1, might be worth a look when you feel like you're the only one up and awake , with too much time to think.

SP - I agree, it is way too early to buy big presents !! Big hit of Christmas was police dressing up outfit.

Still getting keys tomorrow but panicking now as the snow is due to arrive on Saturday, it was -5 today, but no snow yet. Why do we always move when there's snow??

disguisedeb Thu 02-Feb-12 19:55:33

Stitching, I am so happy to hear about your job, I was thinking about you last night and wondering what time your interview was today. That haircut obviously made all the differencewink Is it f/t?

Gigondas Thu 02-Feb-12 20:29:17

Stitching gringrin on job.

Thanks for all kind words. Still up and down but my mum came over today and was great as she has been though this with her own cancer. Also the thread on here fantastic . But do appreciate you all as have known you longest.

Girls ok although dd1 does ask about my hip and when I am going to hospital so I think it adds to her being unsettled . Dh nanny and me working to reassure her as this bothers me as hate to see her upset. Dd2 happy if fed and cuddled and although she is very little that makes her easier as is ok with mum/dad/nanny. Lucky I chose to mix feed tho bf going quite well (irony) as can express or bottle feed if out/done in.

Thanks for tv suggestions . And smile at Xmas chat- agree its far too early to get Xmas presents.

LaGuerta Thu 02-Feb-12 22:25:27

Deb - yes the weather could make moving fun. I have sent the agent an email asking him to check that the heating will be on in the house for the next few days as we had understood that it was now vacant. However it turns out vendor has moved back in and is now leaving us with his white goods for free! So hopefully no burst pipes, and a warm house. We will have to see about the snow. Tonight the BBC forecast is a cop out - they are refusing to make a stab at where it will snow. It looks as though we could be the owners of three fridges next week. We complete on Thursday.

Other good news here is that I have managed to get DS1 his full 15 hours of preschool in one setting. I had been struggling to find anywhere with more than 9 hours available, but my original top choice has had some swapping around. I am relieved. In answer to the question about whether the boys are excited about moving. DS1 has been a PITA ever since we told him the move is going ahead. He does have a cold though. Non the less I have been a bit angry with him blush. I think he is very excited. DS2 just busy being 15 months old <weary face>

My top tv suggestion is "Being Erica" on c4 on Sundays. It is very frothy but all too watchable. Other guilty pleasures are "15
Kids and Counting" and "call the mw".

Night all xx

TheScottishPlayer Fri 03-Feb-12 08:10:58

Quick post - Gig, I'll be thinking about you today. Let us know how you get on x

Gigondas Fri 03-Feb-12 08:58:15

Thank you Scottish - I really hope it's better news. At least will have plan to focus on re treatment. Lovely thread here of people who are going thorough /been through similar which helps.

Don't envy you moving deb - it's bloody freezing here.

Gigondas Fri 03-Feb-12 15:33:13

Inconclusive News as seen some odd spots (that need to check aren't cancer) on lungs or spine. They are small and don't look obviously worrying and may well be hormone/pregnancy related as I am a first in how close to birth I am.

So MRI scan /oncologist then more update following that - which will be when they remove it (before or after radio therapy). Please keep sending good vibes. Am more calm and determined now

LaGuerta Fri 03-Feb-12 16:28:33

That sounds like very confusing and difficult news Gig. More waiting which is never great, but unavoidable I suppose. When is the next appointment?

I've been meaning to ask: how is your DH handling this? Glad your Mum is able to support you too.

Gigondas Fri 03-Feb-12 16:39:59

Lag I think I am just braced and numb so confusing and difficult par for course. What I want to hear is that it will be ok
And they are not going to say that .

.Also part of me thinks it seems to have taken this long (or so it seems) to find out that I would rather they were thorough on analysis.
Also am clinging onto idea that as its not obvious that might mean its ok and they are small so even if are nasty they are early:

How is everyone else doing?

Gigondas Fri 03-Feb-12 17:02:27

Dh is handling it ok- he can be very focused and compartmentalise his emotions so he is doing the talking to dr and arranging stuff as my head all over the place.
I am grateful to him and know its tough on him

TheScottishPlayer Fri 03-Feb-12 21:06:38

Good vibes flowing from here to you Gig. I'm sorry you didn't get more conclusive news. I'm really glad you've got good support.

Not much to report on from here. Snow unlikely and a weekend of house chores ahead. Must try and fit something in that's fun for DS. Does anyone else find it difficult to balance chores and family time at the weekend. I'm really trying to get more done during the week, but it's 6.30 by the time we get home in the week and after tea, bedtime, clear up etc it's 9pm and we're knackered!

StitchingMoss Sat 04-Feb-12 22:13:41

marking my spot x

disguisedeb Sun 05-Feb-12 08:36:33

Good morning all, firstly gig, sorry hosp apt want more conclusive..sending live and positive vibes your way.

Well were in! Nightmare move in about a foot of snow, am absolutely shattere

d and so don't want to do this again in 6 months! Well just have to buy it ! Lovely warm house though, makes a change.limited internet so can't post often, love to all.
God luck for move lag.

Gigondas Sun 05-Feb-12 08:38:50

Thanks for good vibes. Am up and down but really determined to beat this. Dh and my mum and the nanny (whose bf had cancer) being amazing as are you guys. My dad really struggling bless himsad

Snow here so think some excitement from dd today

Hi to all

TheScottishPlayer Sun 05-Feb-12 10:24:30

If your dad is anything like mine he'll be feeling a bit helpless. Can you get him to do anything for you to make him feel useful? Even if it's just putting up a shelf?

Glad you're all moved in Deb.

I hope those of you with snow enjoy it! We don't have as much as a snowflake but I'm quite pleased about that!

Gigondas Sun 05-Feb-12 19:07:27

grin at idea of putting up shelf. My dad notoriously impractical . I think being quite negative (as seen the worst) and wanting to get involved (as wanted to ring drhmm) his way of coping as you say. He had just left a message so may let dh call as an having good day (was very down yesterday).

StitchingMoss Sun 05-Feb-12 19:56:47

I know we had a chat about this yesterday, and I do think family members who are doctors/nurses find it very hard when their loved ones are ill as they know too much sad. I feel so sorry for your dad, but he also has to respect you as an adult, and your relationship with your dh, and how you want to deal with all this yourself and with dh and not with him. He still thinks of you as his little girl and wants to protect you sad.

Glad you've had a good day, and hope you got the knitting out smile.

We've enjoyed the snow but still wiped out from this crappy cold and would like a long sleep! blush

Hope everyone else ok, of to watch Call the Madwife smile.

TheScottishPlayer Sun 05-Feb-12 19:56:55

I'm glad to hear that you've had a good day. Did DD1 get out in the snow? It's incredibly weird all this bad weather everywhere and there isn't a hint of it here!

You're right not to phone your dad if you think he's likely to bring yourself. This is most def one of those times where you get to put yourself first!

Nothing exciting to report here. Exceptionally dull w/e of chores sad but the house is looking much better for it which means we can crack on with some of the 'get it ready to sell' jobs that desperately need doing. I'm looking forward to a nice day with DS1 tomorrow though.

LaGuerta Sun 05-Feb-12 22:04:40

Evening All.

Gig - I hope that DH talking to your Dad helps. Like others have said you need to take the route that is easiest for you at the moment, rather than worry about other people's reactions. I am glad that your DH is such a rock for you. I have never met the man but you two always sound like such a strong unit. Hope that snow today brought some fun for DD1.

We trekked the boys up the big hill behind our house today. It was cool doing a very long sledge run with DS1 for the first time. He was exhausted afterwards and was begging for bed this evening.

DH and I are both a bit shattered this weekend, hence we are both in bed now at 9.30! Yesterday we failed to get anything done at all, today was better with ovens and bathrooms cleaned, plus I waded through boxes and bags of boys clothes ranging from 3mo up to 4yrs that have somehow escaped my boxing and labelling system thus far. I am feeling slightly better prepared for moving. I realise all of this could be tackled after the move, but it is just going to be irritating to move a load of stuff that then goes straight in the bin.

Deb - congratulations on getting moved despite the snow posing some challenges. Can you have a bit of a rest now?

SP - in answer to your earlier question about whether we do lots of special stuff at the weekend. No we tend not to. I don't normally do lots of housework at the weekend though as I stay on top of that during the week (sort of) but then there has to be some benefit to being a SAHM doesn't there wink?However, we are often both shattered at the weekend and need the mornings to play sleep tag. The thing we do as a family most weekends is walk up the high street for a coffee and cake/gingerbread man if you are DS1. In the last 6 months I have made a point of going to an aerobics class on a Sunday morning in order to do something "for me". In part I feel guilty about taking the time, but then I also think it is important to reserve some time on my own, take time to exercise etc. I wish I could lose the guilt though! Similarly DH will also go running every weekend. Our hope is that once we are moved DH's commute will be shorter; we will be less tired at the weekend; and we will both be able to start doing stuff "for ourselves" again in the evenings. That has been pretty much impossible for the last 6 months.


StitchingMoss Mon 06-Feb-12 14:51:59

Hi all, forgot to thank everyone yesterday for their good wishes about my job blush, but thank you smile.

LG, I think it's so easy for mums to feel guilty about having me-time, but why do we do it to ourselves? I don't expect many/any of our dhs have the same guilt! hmm

Deb, hope you're all settled in.

Having a quiet afternoon at home, although expecting some of the NCT crowd over later. It's going to be quite an adjustment being back at work again, but one I'm looking forward to smile.

Gigondas Mon 06-Feb-12 17:14:33

Completely agree with Stitching re me time.lag both you and your dp seem to have worked so hard and long hours that I really hope that new house and shorter commute (this in particular has got to make a difference) are new start for you. Are you still getting packers to do move?

Deb how is new house now? Are you working this week or have you got time to sort stuff?
Scottish - how was your Monday at home? Have you got list now of what you want done on house ?
Stitching- is new job start in 2 weeks?

Went to see dd1 do a "show" with her gym class this pm which was lovely. And was nice to go out and do something normal .

Dh has talked to my dad and got him to agree not to call drs (in my lighter moments I can see how that call will go" I just want to talk to you about my daughter - you know the 39 year old married mother of two" can see dr instantly waiving patient confidentially on that basis grin).

Tomorrow have MRI scan in morning then oncologist appt in afternoon. I know it's good to get things moving but am also bloody terrified of more bad news. This time last week I didn't know...
I also know need to take Care of myself and get rest as that affects my mood (and am still only 2 weeks post birth). My mum happy to help and have discussed getting odd night with night nanny to help. The issue is dh who wants to do it all/keep it to us and nanny (I know I am ridiculously spoiled with help I have) but I worry for his health as much as mine as he has to work.

LaGuerta Tue 07-Feb-12 07:43:08

Gig - positive vibes for today. Your DH is probably still running on adrenalin after all that has happened in the last few weeks. Is he back at work now? Wanting to do it all himself is probably him wanting to protect you in a situation that he feels unable to control. I think you are right to get extra help in. Both you and your DH need to be as rested as possible as cancer treatment is a long haul. Don't apologise for the help you have. Anyone who has a problem with you having a nanny and your Mum being around is a lunatic and not a true friend.

TheScottishPlayer Tue 07-Feb-12 08:28:41

More food vibes from me Gig and I'd echo everything LaG said!

<waves to everyone else>

StitchingMoss Tue 07-Feb-12 10:01:49

I like the idea of a food vibe SP wink.

Gig, I think ur dh's wish to manage alone is laudable but misguided - as LG says no one will judge you for getting whatever help you need. Thinking of you today x

Gigondas Tue 07-Feb-12 10:22:00

Thanks all for the food vibes. And agree dh is running on his nerves. Think I will raise help again when we have a plan on treatment.

Scan done - oncologist later. Have gone beyond nervous and scared and am just done in now. Not sure how will take it if more bad news or even if I know what bad news is now as am so nervous struggle to make sense of what told .

Gigondas Tue 07-Feb-12 19:02:46

Just quick update- op Friday. No real news on rest as haven't concluded on what spots are but lump coming outa start.

Am bit shaky and scared so will try to post when I can.

LaGuerta Tue 07-Feb-12 22:17:08

Thanks for the update. I have been checking in on and off to see how you got on.

Sorry you still haven't got an answer on the spots. The waiting and wondering must be dreadful, especially after you will have psyched yourself up for this afternoon's appointment.

We are here tomorrow but the packers are arriving. So, I am not sure at what point we will lose Internet access. We have 3G here but not sure about the new place. DH is muttering about wifi hotspots hmm None the less I will be checking in when I can in the run up to Friday.

Change of subject:

Guess what fairly significant thing we have forgotten about for the move?

LaGuerta Tue 07-Feb-12 22:23:34

Yes...we forgot to sign and return the contract for the sale of this house. I have narrowly avoided a mission to our solicitor's in Berkshire tomorrow by realising that I could drop the contract off with our buyer's solicitor here. <stupid face>

disguisedeb Tue 07-Feb-12 23:37:52

Just checking in on you gig, sorry to hear the results were inconclusive.I hope the OP goes ok on Friday.once that lump has gone I think out will make a difference to how you are feeling, that's the first big hurdle. get all the help you can,a nig
ht nanny would mean everyone more able to cope with the days.thinking about you, but like lag, only limited internet.

Lag, good luck with the move,c ant believe you forgot to sign the papers!

TheScottishPlayer Wed 08-Feb-12 07:15:21

Gig, sorry there's no more news. As we say up here, that's just pish.

blush at food vibes from me!

Glad you remembered about the contract on time LaG.

No news from here, except last night in a completely frivolous moment I paid best part of £200 on Madonna tickets for pretty average seats. It had better be good. DH took quite a bit of persuading so I'll not be popular if we don't have a good time!

Gigondas Wed 08-Feb-12 07:54:38

Hasn't your dh only just recovered from you finding all your take that cds Scottish? And was wine involved in this purchase wink

StitchingMoss Wed 08-Feb-12 13:41:35

Rather than you than me SP grin - have to confess I've never understood the fuss about Madonna, but hear she's good in concert smile.

shock at forgetting to sign the papers for your move LG!

Gig, I agree with deb that removing the lump is going to be very significant for your physical and psychological welfare. Will be watching and waiting for news x

Not much to report here, days for work have been confirmed as mon-weds and hoping to start 0n the 20th but usual messing around with paperwork could mean a week's delay hmm. Diet not going so well as have lost my way a bit this week, but need to refocus blush.

LaGuerta Wed 08-Feb-12 14:01:11

Contract is now with the solicitor. Phew.

Packers are motoring through, but have packed all the nappies when we weren't paying attention.

Done playgroup this morning soft play next (once we have bought some nappies). Anything to keep the boys occupied.

DH says he is tired hmm and about to go on a conference call.

LaGuerta Wed 08-Feb-12 21:06:13

DH latest: "I've really enjoyed my relaxing day."


Gigondas Wed 08-Feb-12 22:20:27

Is he annoying you somewhat lag?

LaGuerta Wed 08-Feb-12 22:52:10

wink perhaps.

Actually he is being lovely and I am being G.R.U.M.P.Y. But then I feel as though I have done all of the thinking, planning, childcare whilst he has wandered around in a daze letting the packers pack all sorts that we might need tonight (pans, pasta, gin) thinking how relaxing this all is.

Never mind. All trivial really. Better get some sleep.

TheScottishPlayer Wed 08-Feb-12 23:08:05

There's a lack of thinking in evidence here tonight. DH and I have had many words tonight. It's a conversation that we have regularly and will no doubt once again fail to resolve anything. wine anyone? Apparently DH gets no time to himself. It is true, I often get time to myself to do housework and other jobs that would never get done if I didn't recognise they needed doing while DH goes off and does fun things with DH.

Moan aside, good luck with the move LaG!

TheScottishPlayer Wed 08-Feb-12 23:08:32

DH does fun things with DS. Not himself.

TheScottishPlayer Wed 08-Feb-12 23:11:19

Oh, no wine involved in purchase of Madonna tickets! I'm not as much of a fan of more recent stuff, but it's one of those 'event' type things isn't it? It's like a big rugby match, even though it bored me to tears I feel left out when everyone I know in Edinburgh is at/watching a big match. DH really likes her though but I might sell his ticket grin

Gigondas Thu 09-Feb-12 07:47:25

Good luck with move lag. And sorry to hear gin got packed grin

Scottish that argument does sound frustrating. It can't help that on top of stuff around house you have been studying too.

Ok night which makes my mood better and taking it easy today as my mum coming over to look after little e (dd2) which involves fighting with nanny over who feeds her wink

TheScottishPlayer Thu 09-Feb-12 13:12:14

Thanks Gig. I'm probably being really unfair to DH. He has to fit in a day's work at home so he can have a day off during the week and he does do loads e.g. cook dinner etc. It's just that he doesn't seem to think about anything. I'm fed up of being the only person that tries to come up with ways to make us a bit more efficient during the week so we can have more time at the weekend.

I meant to say thanks for posting what your weekend days are like LaG. I guess with us both working almost full-time makes it a bit more difficult to keep on top of things at home (not that it's easy to keep on top of housework and entertain children during the week). Once you get back to work Stitching I'll be interested to hear how you manage things.

I hope you have gin nappies and other essential supplies for today LaG grin

If you're able to log on Deb - how are you settling in to the new place.

Do we know when mudwiggle is coming back - v soon surely?

TheScottishPlayer Thu 09-Feb-12 17:33:09

Disappointing house valuation <glugs wine and contemplates putting up big fence between us and the neighbours>

Gigondas Thu 09-Feb-12 17:53:33

Oh no- was it so bad not worth moving?

StitchingMoss Thu 09-Feb-12 18:31:42

I don't expect I'll manage at all SP, but then I have incredibly low standards in housework, so I'm not worried grin!

Just texted LG and she's all moved in and loves the new pad (always good to hear!) as do the boys. Will really miss having her 40 mins away sad but thankfully they now live not far from my folks so will still have an excuse to bug her visit!

Gig, hope you've managed to get some rest today, will be thinking of you tomorrow xxxxx

Haven't heard from mudwiggle for a while - she must be back very soon!

StitchingMoss Thu 09-Feb-12 18:32:05

Oh and sorry to hear about the valuation SP sad.

TheScottishPlayer Thu 09-Feb-12 18:57:03

Glad to hear LaG is loving the new place.

We've got another estate agent coming tomorrow but I think we'll need to stay put for another year. It's just a wee bit short of what we need - not huge amounts, but enough to bugger up loan to value calcs for a mortgage and would make things a bit tight. Also, because it's all just a bit tight we wouldn't be able to drop our price so don't want to risk paying out fees and not being able to sell. Now, if we could just persuade DH's p's to downsize and handover some of his inheritance now, we'd be fine! grin

Gigondas Thu 09-Feb-12 19:14:40

That's good news on lag and hope waiting that bit longer helps you scottish.

Am ok re tomorrow but also terrified so any good thoughts appreciated.

I can't remember when mud said was coming back but I do know it's pretty imminent. Don't envy her tho as weather shit here.

StitchingMoss Thu 09-Feb-12 20:06:08


Have just messaged Mud to see if she can enlighten us smile.

Not had a good week diet-wise, 2 lbs on, but still 14 lbs down. Just need to get refocussed blush.

Signed the contract with the CM today - it's all starting to feel very real now!

TheScottishPlayer Thu 09-Feb-12 20:19:25

Huge hugs and positive vibes from the not so frozen North Gig. Like everyone else, I'll be thinking of you tomorrow xx

TheScottishPlayer Fri 10-Feb-12 20:14:23

I hope today went ok Gig and you're recovering well. Big hugs.

StitchingMoss Fri 10-Feb-12 20:29:58

Gig is round from the op and doing well smile.

TheScottishPlayer Fri 10-Feb-12 21:30:43

Good to hear, thanks Stitching.

Gigondas Sun 12-Feb-12 18:08:58

Hi all- just marking my place . Still in hospital but op went well and I can walk . Still feeling up/down (prob not helped by big op drugs etc) but looking forward to going home in a day or two.

How has everyone else been (assume mud and lag in various stages of moving)? Scottish is it half term for you as well as here (or does that not matter with s nursery)

disguisedeb Sun 12-Feb-12 18:18:10

Finally got back online after mobile mess up.glad to hear gig ok after OP,I was thinking about her on Friday.
All happy here but fed up with unpacking and trying to find homes for all our stuff.loving the house though

LaGuerta Sun 12-Feb-12 18:56:23

Hi everyone. We are just about back online too.

Gig - glad the op went well and you are beginning to get over it. Hope you can get home very soon.

Our move went well. Despite every corner of the house being scuffed, scribbled on, dented etc I LOVE this house. The views of the Sth Downs are amazing and the rooms are so spacious. It's going to be a great house but not until some serious elbow grease has been used. It was cleaned before they left though which is better than expected. This meant that only some of the kitchen shelves were covered in mouse droppings.

Gigondas Sun 12-Feb-12 20:02:12

Glad you are settling in and like it lag.

Gigondas Sun 12-Feb-12 20:02:48

And also deb glad things getting sorted - pressed send too soon blush

TheScottishPlayer Mon 13-Feb-12 16:56:22

Hi, just marking place really while having 5 minutes with a cuppa.

Half term here but it makes no odds to us as DS's nursery is year round. It meant the museum we visited was VERY busy though! Glad moves all went well. How are you feeling today Gig?

Oh Gig, on One Day - I spent the first half of the film moaning about all the stuff that they missed out and I don't think squeezing 20 days into an hour and a half worked well, but, if you have low expectations it's a fairly undemanding film which would be good if you find yourself on the sofa with DD2 for an hour or so. Oh, and it made me cry when it got to the inevitable conclusion even though I knew it was coming blush

DizzyDancing Mon 13-Feb-12 20:45:01

Hi all, have changed my username - what do you think? grin Any Joni Mitchell fans amongst you will recognise it's origin!

Gig, it's lovely to hear your updates both here and on text. I'm still waiting for my baby cuddle though grin. Hope you will be home soon - although I suspect you'll be getting a lot more rest in hospital then at home!

LG, the house sounds amazing - can't wait to see it this week smile. I'm going to stay at my parents on Thursday night too - kill two birds with one stone smile.

Deb, glad the house move went well for you too smile.

Still haven't heard anything from Mud - is she home yet?

SP, half term here too which means going out and about is a nighmare - going to be even worse when our kids are school age too though grin!

Our 12th wedding anniversary tomorrow - can't believe it. We can't get a sitter so we're taking the boys out for lunch, very romantic!

disguisedeb Mon 13-Feb-12 21:03:06

Just a quick ((((((((gig)))))) hope you're doing ok and get home soon.

Lag, so pleased you love your new house after FL the heartache getting there

Dizzy happy anniversary, how romantic, Valentine wedding

disguisedeb Mon 13-Feb-12 21:03:21

Just a quick ((((((((gig)))))) hope you're doing ok and get home soon.

Lag, so pleased you love your new house after FL the heartache getting there

Dizzy happy anniversary, how romantic, Valentine wedding

disguisedeb Mon 13-Feb-12 21:04:56

Oops, stupid touch phone

Gigondas Mon 13-Feb-12 21:17:52

Dizzy happy anniversary for tomorrow smile

Deb - thanks for good wishes. Am doing ok but in til at least tomorrow and possibly Wednesday. Wound healing well but still not quite at point where ok to go home.

Dh doing well and girls fine (although I miss them). He is having issues with my mums care of dd2 (making her sleep too much and not changing her nappy often enough).

Scottish - will watch that when less hormonal smile

DizzyDancing Mon 13-Feb-12 21:34:47

Thanks Deb and Gig - yes, we're soppy old things Deb blush. Also figured that 14/02/00 was a wedding anniversary that dh would never forget grin.

Sorry to hear dh is having problems with your mum and DD2 - is she looking after her all day or is it only when the nanny goes home? Is he able to say anything? So hard when he has so much else to worry about sad.

Gigondas Mon 13-Feb-12 21:58:05

He certainly wont.

Dh is quite pfb and hands on re girls. He thinks my mum can be a bit lazy laid back .

So thinks (probably rightly) that doesn't change dd2 enough ( we have had some issues with nappy rash- mainly cos of sheer volume of poonamis!). And also just let's dd2 sleep all day (fine but then is up feeding all night). The thing that worried me is that said she had dd2 under a bunch of blankets jncl an electric one (it wasn't on). This really worried me . I will get dh to say something (and hide blanket) .

But am grateful for all her help and support so don't want to upset her (plus I know what she is like so if is at home "helping" me I can keep an eye on things).

But it does worry me a bit as feel should be home as a lot for dh to deal with.

DizzyDancing Tue 14-Feb-12 10:17:33

Can nanny take over with nappy changes and things? Can she whisk DD2 off for a 'walk' which doesn't involve her sleeping? I agree that the blankets thing is wrong - one of those generational things unfortunately.

Can your mum concentrate on looking after DD1 who, let's face it, is much easier in a lot of respects, and then nanny can focus on DD2?

Don't want you to be worrying too much about it (though inevitable that you will sad) when you should be focussing on getting better x

Gigondas Tue 14-Feb-12 10:44:57

Nanny can do stuff with dd2 but isn't that used to small babies (those is doing well and dotes on dd2 grin) so is happier if me/dh around to ask what is normal .
She could do stuff with dd1 but is lazy basically - so not sure the normal things that planned for dd1 this week (park, etc) so good.

Have compromised as dh working at home and not coming in to see me so can be with girls and also get some work done (am worried that he doesn't fall behind). So I am going to rest up here -think its unlikely will get out today .

TheScottishPlayer Tue 14-Feb-12 13:05:12

Happy Anniversary Dizzy!

I'm sorry your mum is causing some stress at home Gig. If DH is going to speak to her about anything can he break it down into non-negotiables and things that are just annoying/not what you prefer? So it doesn't become a 'everything she does is wrong' kind of conflict? It might make it less stressful if you and DH can compartmentalise stuff that way too and try and ignore the stuff that's annoying? Easy for me to say I suppose though!

Sorry you won't be getting out today - another day's rest though (if you're finding you can rest? I always think hospitals are the least restful places!).

Not much to report on from her. After spending a small fortune on Madonna tickets we agreed not to do anything really for Valentines. As DS is rarely asleep before 9, we've never successfully been able to have a nice meal/bottle of wine at home since he was born! Many a valentines day/wedding anniversary/other important anniversaries have being ruined while trying. angry

Gigondas Tue 14-Feb-12 13:24:36

Hospital not too bad as they go as do tend to leave me alone so am resting.

Dh managing to bite his tongue- and compromise agreed as she cooks for freezer(until he sees mess she makes - makes me look OCD) so some peace .wink

Think am safer here

DizzyDancing Tue 14-Feb-12 14:48:43

I think hospitals are very different if you're in your own room - I remember I was transferred to my own room the day after DS2 was born, it was bliss smile!

Will your mum stay for long after you're home Gig? Is there anyone else who can come in and do a stint instead? (Can't remember what the situation is with your sister - although I suspect she's probably working isn't she?). Can you get a mother's help in? (I've heard of them but don't really know what they do!). Your hospital/HV/Macmillan nurse should be able to advise you on what help is available given you have two small girls and need to rest and your dh has a full on job. Then it takes the pressure of your mum if she's not that reliable!

Had some bad news here - dad has just been diagnosed with COPD sad. It's mainly associated with smoking but dad has never smoked - but then he was diagnosed with Type II diabetes 9 years ago which is mainly associated with obesity and he is as thin as rake. Talk about unlucky blush.

Anyway, it's manageable at the moment and we'll just have to see what the future brings . . .

Just come back from a lovely lunch at Loch Fyne and now waiting for a friend to come round. DS2 asleep - seems to be picking up his daytime naps again!

TheScottishPlayer Tue 14-Feb-12 20:59:25

I'm really sorry to hear about your dad Dizzy. I'm glad it's manageable for now.

Gig, glad hospital ok and that your DH is managing to bite his tongue!

I feel bad for coming on to post a fairly frivolous question blush but I was after some opinions on this curtain fabric (the akin louise moss one)? I'm a bit scared of patterns so I never know if they're ok or something my mother would choose. I need some curtains for the patio doors and they definitely need a bit of a pattern (but not too much). The walls will be a sort of ivory buttermilk. DH is of no help at all.

TheScottishPlayer Tue 14-Feb-12 21:00:47

Oh, and it also appeals because made to measure curtains fairly inexpensive on this website! Even if we're not moving this year, I don't want to spend a fortune on curtains for somewhere we don't plan to stay longer term.

DizzyDancing Tue 14-Feb-12 21:40:29

Thanks SP, have been doing a lot of reading on it this evening and it's difficult to know what to think at the moment. It's not good, but he could potentially have another ten years, I don't know. I think I might phone the British Lung Foundation tomorrow and just have a chat with them about it. He's not a well man anyway, so this is certainly not going to help sad. The one thing that came up time and time again is that this disease mainly affects smokers, and he's never bloody smoked angry.

As for the curtains - I'm not wild about the fabric I'm afraid blush. We have recently chosen some fabric from here but you would need someone to make them. My SIL makes curtains and she's very very good - what's your budget? She has a template for measuring and would be able to advise you on colours and styles if you're interested?

TheScottishPlayer Tue 14-Feb-12 22:10:10

That's so unfair Dizzy. Ringing the BLF sounds like a good idea - maybe there's some kind of support/info for families? How's your mum taking the news?

Thanks for the link. I'm not sure any of those colours would be quite right. My budget is as little as possible so I'm trying to avoid having something made (but thank you for the offer to get in touch with your SIL). From that particular website I linked to I'd expect to pay around £130 for the size of window. Gah, I hate soft furnishings. The problem is, I wouldn't actually choose the colour of walls we're going to have, it's just that it goes with the existing kitchen/tiles (which I wouldn't choose either - cherry wood kitchen, light moss green sort of tiles). So trying to find something that I like to go with someone I don't really like is quite difficult! Ho hum. The search continues!

Gigondas Wed 15-Feb-12 06:32:20

Agree re blf idea being good as they will hopefully have a much better idea of what it is actually like to live with this . Googling never a good idea.

Re curtains I don't mind those ones you choose but are your windows a standard size? I only ask as Ikea can be great for cheap but decent fabric (completely sympathise about not wanting to pay too much).

Hoping am released today- as stitching knows I was getting quite down by last night and really homesick. Not helped by my dsis visiting which was nice but she made a particularly tactless joke (saying my mum would be jealous as my cancer was Bigger than hers- given I had just been fretting re worst outcome and that I might have to have chemo this was not the best).

But on nicer news from FB I see mud is back heregrin

Waves to deb

Gigondas Wed 15-Feb-12 06:33:17

Oh and loved the photo of new house lag - gorgeous views .

TheScottishPlayer Wed 15-Feb-12 10:13:15

I hope you make it home today Gig!

On the curtains - it's patio doors so quite big I think. I had a look at standard sized curtains in John Lewis etc but they were too small. Hence the appeal of that website. I wouldn't have curtains over the doors at all if I could get away with it, but the kitchen windows are south facing and even in the winter, we often need to close over the existing patio door curtains (which don't match at all) to stop the kitchen becoming sauna like during the day.

Gigondas Wed 15-Feb-12 10:25:54

Are blinds a cheaper option?

DizzyDancing Wed 15-Feb-12 10:50:15

£130 is very good for bespoke curtains! Go for it smile.

Were LG's photos on FB? I can't see them confused. Although visiting the house myself tomorrow so will be able to ooh and aah at the views in RL grin and probably be very envy in the process!

Re: dad, mum seems quite calm at the moment and content that his symptoms are manageable right now. I searched COPD on MN last night which was an even bigger mistake then google as came up with lots of threads about people with end-stage COPD and it wasn't good sad.

Great news about mudwiggle grin.

Gig, really hope you're home today smile and your sister is a numpty - it's that old "saying anything cos you don't know what to say" chestnut isn't it? hmm.

Waiting for friend to turn up and off for a wander into town I think - the sun is shining smile.

Gigondas Wed 15-Feb-12 11:10:40

How many times have you told me to stay away from google? Ime people rarely post on anything ESP health wise unless there is a problem.

An getting out but with stern instructions on wound care etc . Clips come out and final check next week


TheScottishPlayer Wed 15-Feb-12 11:46:34

I had been thinking about blinds actually. We've just got new roller blinds for the kitchen in a jute style, so fairly unoffensive. However, they have to go outside the recess because of the way the kitchen window opens. For the patio doors I could have them inside the recess (preferred) but I think it would look odd with one blind in and one blind out. Or am I over thinking? Would a roller blind look ok over patio doors? I do have a perfectly nice curtain pole over the patio doors which I'd need to take down which would be a shame but the painter is coming at the weekend so if I took it down now he could fill the holes etc before painting the walls.

On your sister Gig - yes, she's being a numpty. Some people really don't think! I recall going to visit DB and DSIL when they had my niece (after having 2 mc's in the preceding 4 months which she knew about) and when commenting on how cute she was DSIL responded 'I know, doesn't it make you want one'.

LaGuerta Wed 15-Feb-12 22:58:59

Evening all.

Sorry to hear that you are stuck in the hospital still Gig. The "issues" between DH and your Mum are bound to happen even in less stressful circumstances. It's a difficult one to deal with. It has been well documented on MN over the years that my PILs are decidedly lax about changing nappies. Today included. MIL has no sense of smell, and PIL has always refused to change any nappy. As a result nappies only get changed when a) PIL smells it, b) he tells MIL, c) she can be bothered to act on this information. Today a) and b) happened, but fell down on c) hmm she was busy playing dominos with DS1 apparently. No nappy rash as result though. DS2 was terrible for constant nappy rash BTW. Constant for about 6 weeks, but is pooed like it was going out of fashion too.

DH and I went to Ikea which was good and bad and in parts. I picked up the wrong legs for a table, but this was only an initial trip so we will be back quite soon anyway to get the Ruhr ones. Afterwards DH announced that he couldn't find his work bag. We all ended up turning the house upside down for two hours, to no avail. So he has lost all his paperwork, laptop and a work supplied iPad sad. He is back at work tomorrow and PILs are leaving in the morning, so I have a day to myself with the boys before my parents arrive on Wednesday. So, what to do in a new place during half term.

Happy anniversary for tomorrow Dizzy.

TheScottishPlayer Thu 16-Feb-12 06:28:27

Gah, lost a post last night! Is it just me, or does your post read as if it was written way before late last night LaG? confused

Did your DH's work stuff turn up?

LaGuerta Thu 16-Feb-12 08:14:07

Well spotted. I wrote it on 13th. Then the broadband disappeared and then I tried to cancel it last night but it got posted instead. I meant to come back and clarify but forgot.

Haven't really got time to update now as I have got Dizzy is coming round this morning. Hoping she and my Dad don't clash on politics wink

DizzyDancing Thu 16-Feb-12 22:56:32

Had a lovely time at LG's, no arguments (at least amongst the adults) and a lovely lunch smile.

Just off to bed now but will come back tomorrow to explain how DS1 ended up telling LG's mum that his daddy has a big willy grin!

Gigondas Fri 17-Feb-12 08:46:42

I do want to hear that story dizzy and glad you had nice day with lag.

Lag did work bag show up? And yes that nappy story is very much what goes on (have changed nappy cream which helps but dd2 is exactly as you say as poos all time and Therfore rash).

Taking it easy back home- had really down day yesterday where felt tired sick and tearful . sad think part of it may be that I abandoned the strong painkillers had been on since having dd2 as didn't feel need. Didn't realize (and did google but also asked my dad) that there can be a withdrawal jncl horrific mood swings . That and giving up bf (horrendous night sweats) made for nice day.

Dh home today which is nice.

TheScottishPlayer Fri 17-Feb-12 12:31:00

Sorry to hear that you had a bad day yesterday Gig. How are you doing today? I hope you get to have a nice relaxing w/e with your DH/DD's.

Which nappy cream are you using? We were quite lucky with nappy rash on DS and he only got it really badly once - metanium (sp?) worked a treat. I used it a lot if he started getting a bit red and it seemed to do the trick in preventing anything developing.

I'm looking forward to reading your story too Dizzy!

Not too much to report here. Unexpected late night out at a work do last night so a bit weary today.

DizzyDancing Fri 17-Feb-12 18:19:20

Evening smile.

Gig, so sorry you had such a rubbish day yesterday sad. Lots of emotions/hormones etc running around inside at the moment, I'm not surprised you're all over the place. I hope today has been better and some cuddles and smiles from the girls have helped.

Had a lovely time at LG's house - and can totally see why she loves it smile. The views are amazing and the space is wonderful - I know there's lots to do but it's going to be gorgeous when finished smile. grin at not arguing with your dad LG - I think I was quite restrained given how ranty he got on occasions grin wink! I had to laugh at your mum just telling him to shut up then - you can tell she's well used to it grin.

As for the willy story: DS2 found one of LG's games for the Wii and asked LG's mum to put it on the tv (thinking it was a DVD). LG's mum was explaining what it was and then turned to DS1 and said: "does your daddy have a Wii?" "Yes," replied DS1, "and he also has a very big willy"!

Luckily LG's mum used to be a primary teacher and does not seem like someone who shocks easily grin! Made us laugh anyway grin!

Saw dad yesterday as well and he seemed remarkably well which was very reassuring. I think the inhaler is beginning to help and making breathing easier which is making him less tired and therefore less grumpy. Fingers crossed it's going to be a very slow decline.

Right, need to go and help the boys with tidy up time - help!

LaGuerta Fri 17-Feb-12 23:37:53

LOL at Dizzy's description of my father. What can I say except sorry? He is awful at banging on about politics. Before you came I debated whether to tell him not to go there because you are <whispers> "a bit of a lefty". I then realised that this would only encourage him, and he genuinely can't help himself anyway. You were so well behaved though. They think you are just lovely and wanted me to pass on their compliments about your boys. My DS1 was being grotty which only underlined this.

Gig so sorry that yesterday was miserable. How was today? I'm sad that there isn't more I can do to help.

Better go to sleep I suppose.

Gigondas Sat 18-Feb-12 08:00:05

grin at dizzys son and description of visit. Sounds like a nice day.

Did feel a lot better yesterday and taking it easy today. We had a lively night (more dh than me) As dd1 has a cold and dd2 was unsettled. Have just rung hospital to ask
About my wound as want to check healing ok- I will spare you the pus porn details wink but naturally am hyper sensitive about getting infected.

Off to read more about Sam Taylor wood- am finding it helpful to find good examples of people who have got through this when I am down.
Lag tbh just coming on here and being able to chat like we always do is really good- have to remember that life goes on and I can live through/survive this and not let it takeover.

Sorry all a bit profound on a Saturday morning- blame it on early start. Any good plans for weekend ?

TheScottishPlayer Sat 18-Feb-12 08:17:09

grin at Dizzy being a 'bit of a lefty'. Sounds like you all had a good time despite your DS being a bit grotty! Great word! Has Dizzy posted pics yet (not that you're predictable on that front Dizzy wink).

Glad you had a better day yesterday Gig. My weekend plans are crumbling. A friend was supposed to visit this weekend from London, but he's ill sad. We were going to go ahead with our planned visit today but DS's temperature shot up yesterday (there's been something going round the nursery), so we've had to cancel the trip (and the painter who was coming to do the kitchen). To add insult to injury I've woken up with a stinking cold. sad We still have friends coming for Sunday lunch tomorrow so hoping we don't have to cancel.

DizzyDancing Sat 18-Feb-12 11:19:52

Aw bless them LG smile, that's very sweet. I'm not surprised your DS1 was a bit excited - he's just moved to this amazing new house, has had both sets of GPs to stay in a week and then had friends arrive too - a lot for him to take on board! grin

I'm very pleased you didn't tell your dad I was a "bit of a lefty" - I would have been very insulted as I'm "a lot of a lefty" grin wink. Seriously though I never argue politics with people who have very strong opposing views as the only thing we'll do is annoy each other - it's not like either of us were going to have a Road to Damascus conversion and suddenly agree grin!

Sorry to disappoint SP but no photos this time - thought LG probably had enough on her plate without me trying to corral (sp?) the boys into photo opportunities! grin I am hoping to visit again at Easter though where I promise to snap away and show you the full gorgeousness of the house smile.

Gig, sorry you had a low day yesterday. I didn't realise Sam Taylor Wood had had cancer - I loved her film Nowhere Boy, brilliant smile. Lance Armstrong is of course another inspiration - but you're a big TDF fan so you'll know all about him smile.

SP, rubbish about your weekend plans sad. We've got nothing planned at all this weekend cos I start work on Monday and the decorators are coming in on Thursday to do the bathrooms so we need to go to B&Q! DS1 is utterly unimpressed with a "trip to the shops" being all we can offer him by way of entertainment - I think my 3yr old is getting used to a slightly too exciting social life grin!

TheScottishPlayer Sat 18-Feb-12 17:45:43

Good luck on Monday Dizzy! I'm the same re arguing politics with people with strong opposing views. I think when you've worked in politics too people treat you like you're an official spokesperson for whichever Party you support.

My cold hasn't got much better sad DS has unusually conked out on the sofa. Carpol/Nurofen keeping his temp at bay but as soon as they start to wear off he's like a furnace.

I fear we may have to cancel the last of our plans tomorrow sad which is particularly unfortunate as it's friends (who are in fact politicians) so it's always hard to get a date in the diary with them. Tomorrow has been organised for months.

LaGuerta Sun 19-Feb-12 00:11:09

Ikea this evening for DH and I. We were pretty much the last people off the premises having had to work some magic to fit it all in the car. That is this weekend's highlight. My dear father has expressed an interest in visiting Newhaven ferry terminal as a reccy prior to their next trip to France with the caravan hmm. We know how to have fun in this family.

Gigondas Sun 19-Feb-12 07:17:55

smile you know how to live lag. Dh will be keen on new haven trip as he had a job on docks there as a student . I dont think there is much there aside from a big Sainsburys (it was about 5 minutes from where mil lived til she moved).

Quiet weekend here- dsis may visit later. Sorry ds poorly and you are scottish. Dd1 not that great either so is quite grumpy (and sniffing loudly in bed next to me as I type this).

How is ds1 coping with his quiet weekend dizzy?

disguisedeb Sun 19-Feb-12 07:48:53

I posted a long message the other night from my phone and its gone.

Glad to hear you're in a more positive place now gig.hope dd1 stops sniffing soon! How does she like being a big sister?

dizzy and lag, love the stories about your meet up.

Lag, are you still living amongst boxes? We are!

Dizzy good luck for tomorrow.

Sp, hope you feel better soon, what a shame you've had to cancel plans for the weekend.

I'm feeling guilty as the boys are back at school tomorrow and we've done very little with then this holiday apart from unpack and move boxes.tomorrow its tristans birthday, he's had a birthday sleepover though and trip to the cinema club in the village.at the cinema club there's an interval with tea and biscuits.we know how to live here in mickleton! Doesn't quite matchup to a ferry terminal trip though! Meeting halfway with mil, bil and sil today for lunch and bringing mill back too stay.so then we'll be off to ikea too this week.

Nothing more to report here, still no TV .internet or phone, speak soon

DizzyDancing Sun 19-Feb-12 09:23:01

I can beat you all to the award for most exciting weekend activity ever - I spent yesterday whitening the tile grout in my shower grin! I know, I know, you're all very jealous wink.

grin at a trip to Newhaven port - hope you have an exciting time! Was IKEA for storage solutions? What did you get? Love IKEA - just wish they'd hurry up and open one near us!

Deb, lovely to hear from you - I expect the boys had a lovely half term just chilling and settling in to their new house so I wouldn't worry smile.

SP, sorry you're still feeling crap - I hate cancelling plans cos of illness, it's so annoying.

I did have to laugh at Gig's post though: I read "Sorry ds poorly and you are scottish" as she was sorry that you were Scottish grin grin grin! It's not your fault after all wink!

Gig, both boys were a bit wild yesterday mainly, I think, due to lack of exercise. We're going for a walk soon up to the local park as our town's half marathon is on today - dh wants to run it next year so we thought we'd go and have a look. Then I need to have a big blitz of the house and do the ironing etc in preparation for tomorrow - so excited now smile.

Hope you all have a lovely day smile.

TheScottishPlayer Sun 19-Feb-12 09:39:11

There's nowt wrong with being Scottish! <sneezes over Dizzy> wink

DS's temperature seems back to normal so we're going to go ahead with today. I'll just try not to sneeze over anyone. DH has offered to take some toil tomorrow so I can take it easy.

<waves to everyone>

I love trips to ikea too - ours is about 5 minutes away grin <ducks>

DizzyDancing Sun 19-Feb-12 13:16:06

grin @ SP - glad you get your lunch with your politicians smile, I'm assuming they're of the correct colour? wink

Just been to watch the half marathon and have been seriously inspired to dust my running shoes off again. My PT has really helped stabilise my pelvis so hopefully I can start pounding the streeets soon smile.

TheScottishPlayer Sun 19-Feb-12 18:18:51

I have lots of pals who are elected politicians and they're all the right colour in my book grin

TheScottishPlayer Sun 19-Feb-12 18:19:11

Lunch was lovely btw!

DizzyDancing Sun 19-Feb-12 19:40:18


TheScottishPlayer Sun 19-Feb-12 23:47:11

I'm thinking LaG's dad would love Sunday lunch round my house arguing about how best to put the world right grin

LaGuerta Mon 20-Feb-12 21:36:30

How was today Dizzy?

My parents have now gone so for the first time in 10 days we are without either variety of GPs. They have been very good but it is still a bit of a relief.

DS started at his new pre school today. He was v happy going in and at the end the owner was very nice about him smile saying she would happily "have 10 of him". So all good.

Deb - we are very much still living in boxes. We can't unpack our clothes until we have completed constructing our new wardrobes. I have decided to do 1 box an evening if only to know that eventually I will get it done.

Gigondas Mon 20-Feb-12 21:43:24

That's good ds liked pre school lag. Admire your efforts on boxes .

Bit tired to post more but marking spot

DizzyDancing Mon 20-Feb-12 22:23:01

Quick post as I'm totally knackered! blush

Today went really really well - loved being back at work, great colleagues, really interesting work and being thrown in at the deep end with a case load from day one smile. Icing on the cake is the boys were thrilled to see their CM and her kids again and had a fab day too smile.

LG, glad to here how well your lovely DS1 did smile.

Gig, thinking of you and hope your recovery from the op is going ok xxx

Hi to everyone else x

disguisedeb Mon 20-Feb-12 23:14:06

Just checking in on gigs recovery and f
Dizzys 1 st day.

Been recommended by head I've been working for, for some long term supply at a village school, going to visit tomorrow.it's 4 Weeks and could be longer.now trying to work out logistics of only having 1 car, can't afford to get another for 4 Weeks work, so need too speak nicely to some friends to see if they can take Ethan to nursery for us.

Looking forward to meeting the head and setting school tomorrow.

TheScottishPlayer Tue 21-Feb-12 09:41:29

Glad day 1 went well Dizzy and good news on the supply work Deb. I hope you figure out the childcare logistics.

How are you doing today Gig? What's next for you (if you want to talk about it, that is). How's DD2 coming along?

LaG - did your DH's iPad etc turn up?

Has Mudwiggle been on since her return to Uk?

Not much happening here. Been all flu-like over last couple of days so have taken today off. Currently trying to stop myself buying a Kenwood Prospero...

Gigondas Tue 21-Feb-12 10:20:45

Am so pleased that day one went well dizzy. And deb hope you get logistics sorted for the supply work.

Scottish - how you feeling today? And what is a ken wood prospero?

Dd2 doing well- is quite a determined little thing and already has her dad round her finger communicating in coos and grunts. Is more alert by day too and taking interest in toys /people esp dd1. She is generally very easy going and even managed to sleep 10-5 yesterday (shame I didn't ).

Wound going ok- its slow work as is big scar and awkward to keep it still/clean but surgeon is happy. I had to go in yesterday to get dressing changed etc and also needed antibiotics as minor infection in it.

Next up is oncologist appt next week where find out what next treatment is. An half dreading this but also want to find out what is going on so can get head round that. Dh wants results on tests post surgery ASAP but I would rather wait til next week and brace myself.

I am up/down with how I cope- tbh the newborn thing (lag did you find you had sore tummy muscles like too many sit ups post c section?), op mixed in with fear of the worst can make some days tough. Basically I don't think I have much spare emotional or physical energy.

TheScottishPlayer Tue 21-Feb-12 13:55:19

I'm not surprised you don't have much spare energy Gig. You're going through a lot. Have you got much help this week? Is your mum still around?

A kenwood prospero is a food mixer that also has a food processor and blender attachments. We have a crap food processor that we don't use because it's too much faff to get out of the cupboard, but a prospero would live on the counter top and I think we'd use it loads more. There was a thread on here about it so I'm currently 'negotiating' with DH over it as it's a good price on Amazon just now.

In other frivolous news, I've found some alternative curtains I think. At dunelm mill of all places. I need to check the measurements and find the rings for our curtain pole (as these are pencil pleat and not eyelet) but they don't have that MIL floral look about them which is a good thing. Just cream and green stripes. Nothing special but I think they'll go.

Gigondas Tue 21-Feb-12 15:30:42

Curtains sound good. Went and googled ken wood prospero and looks good. We have a Masterchef (posh Xmas gift) a few Years back which is ace but it's heavy and I must admit i don't get it out as much as I should cos of that.

Had nap so feel better than I did - l would even do some knitting if I didn't have a Hol asleep on me (forgets resolution that wouldn't do this with dd2 grin)

TheScottishPlayer Tue 21-Feb-12 15:41:26

Ah, I miss DS falling asleep on me. He did it quite unexpectedly the other week - thankfully I had my phone in easy reach but not the remote control, a cup of tea or some cake!

Gigondas Tue 21-Feb-12 16:05:23

This is my issue now Scottish - have phone tho smile

TheScottishPlayer Tue 21-Feb-12 16:34:22

What did mothers of newborns do before the invention of smartphones eh? Maybe they did that 'sleep when the baby sleeps' thing the books talk about. grin

Gigondas Tue 21-Feb-12 16:42:08

Who knows?! I hate to think of dark ages (like what I With dd1). Also last night is prime example of sleep when sleep, as I couldn't sleep even tho had settled dd hmm

LaGuerta Tue 21-Feb-12 23:10:25

Good to hear job is good Dizzy.

The iPad laptop etc still not appeared. Now been reported to police at his work's request. It is going to turn up in the house in six weeks isn't it?

Babies sleeping on you is lovely until they become so hefty that you are stuck under them with no escape. Hope the wound and infection heal quickly. Yes I had awful abdominal muscle strains post c section I couldn't straighten myself up for a few days. How is it affecting you?

Deb - hope the supply comes through for you and you can sort logistics out. Sounds exciting though.

Gigondas Wed 22-Feb-12 07:38:53

It will turn up within minutes of you reporting it to the police. And whilst I hate to point fingers is it possible one of the ds
"put it away" (voice of experience here with ddgrin).
Tummy muscles tend to ache/cramp at end of day - I think no matter how careful you are cos am carrying/picking up dd2 there is some strain.

TheScottishPlayer Wed 22-Feb-12 12:18:19

I imagine it will turn up when/where you least expect it to LaG. You haven't already put any boxes up in the loft have you?

At home again today. Still felt all flu-like and shivery this morning but I'm actually feeling a lot better now. I've done some work though to compensate.

Gigondas Wed 22-Feb-12 16:24:21

Little piece of good news - looks like got tumour clean out! I know that never out of woods but this is a massive first step grin

TheScottishPlayer Wed 22-Feb-12 16:46:22

Marvellous news grin grin grin

Gigondas Wed 22-Feb-12 17:25:33

I know If was allowed a drink (anti bios
) i would . Best thing was telling dh who was so worried smile

TheScottishPlayer Wed 22-Feb-12 20:12:19

Here's some wine to tide you over.

Gigondas Wed 22-Feb-12 20:57:59


LaGuerta Thu 23-Feb-12 11:01:24

That's great news Gig. smile So is it next week that you find out about the treatment plan? Sorry about the lack of wine. I am having a self imposed alcohol ban this week after 10 days of house moving/GPs staying resulting in nightly g&t and wine. I found I was getting fed up of it. Has anyone else noticed that GPs generation drink quite alot whilst complaining about binge drinking in the young? hmm

I am having an odd morning because DS1 goes to pre school in the afternoon today for the first time. I am trying to work out a routine for both DS1 and DS2 that gets both fed at the right time and DS2 asleep when we go out. We have cleaned up, unpacked some boxes, romped around and it is still only 11am. I have failed thus far to penetrate the village's under 5s network but I think there is some kind of toddler group tomorrow morning <nervous>.

DS2 is beginning to talk. "Yeah" and "no" with the odd noise that might be "hello". He is mostly using this to point at the cake tin say "yeah" and nod vigorously grin. Poor child: now the GPs have gone all the cakes have been eaten and the tin is empty.

Gigondas Thu 23-Feb-12 12:22:39

Yes next week treatment plan news. Radio definite needed - am hoping no chemo (I think issue is that although not cancerous they arent 100% re what is on lungs and that is an area that need to keep close watch on). I suppose we all know we will go sometime but getting used to having to be ultra careful re health and having reality of your dx being serious is a big change in my reality and seems to be what having cancer means.

I totally agree re Gp and drink - my mother over and her and my stepdad can shift a fair amount of wine just having a "quick drink". Then it's a subject of amusement at home how much my family can drink (except me).

Good luck with getting into the pre school mafia. My return to that has been buggered as keep missing nct catch ups due to hospital etc but I guess I can join in at some point.

Is ds2 still napping to give you some free time?

Re dd2 and wind slightly better night but think Moses basket may not help. Dd1 loathed it as mattress too thin and dd2 seems same.

Mudwiggle Thu 23-Feb-12 13:48:36

Back in the UK and back online - yay!

Dizzy sent me a message on FB re: your news Gig, I'm sorry, bloody awful timing when you're recovering from a CS - not that I'm sure there would ever be a good time. Glad the tumour was out clean. Thinking of you!

Loving being home, no regrets or doubts whatsoever, but we've all been sick pretty much since we arrived. Well DS2 is now better, but as he is the loudest and has just learnt to scream (not crying, just screaming) I'm not sure that's a good thing.

NB: Is that a marijuana leaf on the tea cup? shock brew

Gigondas Thu 23-Feb-12 15:35:22

Welcome back mud grin and glad you are happy to be back but sorry it's been poorly times for you all.

Yes no good time to hear this but am living strong (or string as dizzy Mis typed it wink) to borrow from lance Armstrong and determined to get better .

Am resting in bed as dds out with nanny at park which feels quite nice although cant actually sleep. I hate this too tired to nap when have baby but was same with dd1

DizzyDancing Thu 23-Feb-12 19:36:13

I'm thinking of copywrighting Living String Gig grin - wristbands, t-shirts, all sorts, what do you think? grin wink

Lovely to hear from you Mud, and so glad you're happy to be home smile.

LG, yes I agree about GPs and drink grin.

Right, DS2 won't settle sad and dh is out at a work's do so it's going to be a long evening!

Gigondas Thu 23-Feb-12 20:47:35

I think it could catch on smile dizzy.

Sympathies re ds2- I am resigned to no evening for quite a while (although so far we havent had the howling colic at night dd1 went in for , that's saved for lunchtimes wink).

Off to the 80s music reminiscence thread now - anyone else remember glenn madeiros?

DizzyDancing Thu 23-Feb-12 21:02:48

Managed to get him to sleep by 8pm, considering he's been awake since 5.45 that's not good sad.

I sang him this, which I've used as a lullaby for both the boys since they were born - has always worked with DS2 and did tonight. (I don't sing it anywhere near as good as this unfortunately grin!).

Anyway, now off to watch the last episode of Inside Men - didn't watch the beginning of the series but watched the penultimate episode at my parents' house last week and want to know how it ends grin!

TheScottishPlayer Thu 23-Feb-12 22:07:18

8pm? That's amateur hour in this house Dizzy wink

DS has started singing lullabies to me - punishment I think! He's inherited my not-so-musical ear!

TheScottishPlayer Thu 23-Feb-12 22:11:11

Sorry, meant to say welcome back Mud!

I saw a mention of colic Gig - I was evangelical about Dentinox when DS suffered from colic, it was the only thing (plus a dummy) that worked. I remember really resisting a dummy and then cursing myself for doing so when it worked! I hope you get some sleep soon. But 80s music you say? <looks for thread>

DizzyDancing Thu 23-Feb-12 22:25:53

step this way SP grin

I'm now signing off as the 80s thread is making me feel very nostalgic and I'll be up til 3am listening to all this stuff on YouTube if I'm not careful!

TheScottishPlayer Thu 23-Feb-12 22:33:01

I was singing along to Deacon Blue in a piano bar at 2am last week. On a school night! blush

Gigondas Fri 24-Feb-12 08:59:01

Deacon blue. That's nostalgia .

Will hunt out some dentinox. I think it's part wind and part she is a clingy age so wants to be sleeping on someone.

Amazing what a difference a good nights sleep makes as had zero energy last night.

TheScottishPlayer Fri 24-Feb-12 12:42:10

Glad you got a good nights sleep. The bonus with dentinox is that you can add it straight to the milk and give it with a feed.

I love Deacon Blue. I also liked the mentions of Aztec Camera (another old favourite) and Fairground Attraction on the other thread.

So pleased that it's nearly the w/e. Though DH now has the lurgy sad

TheScottishPlayer Sun 26-Feb-12 12:13:38

Oh dear, I killed the thread!!!!

Gigondas Sun 26-Feb-12 13:42:32

Nope- just got nothing exciting to add here. Dd2 less windy and settling better. I am lazing with her while dh and dd1 are swimming.

DizzyDancing Sun 26-Feb-12 22:32:32

The thread always goes quiet at the weekend smile!

Just had a w/e with the in laws - will fill you in tomorrow, off to be now smile.

disguisedeb Sun 26-Feb-12 22:40:40

Great news gig, you're sounding more positive and on too of things now too.

Welcome back home mud, nice to have you back

Hi everyone else

Nigels birthday today,I entered the ballot this year for Wimbledon tickets and got 2 for centre court on the last Friday.so I kept it secret until today.he was sooooo pleased.

LaGuerta Mon 27-Feb-12 18:30:04

Happy Birthday Nigel! Great present Deb lucky him (and you).

Busy weekend mostly doing small jobs that prove to be especially difficult when you aren't used to wielding a drill. We are definitely making progress though: we have almost got through the jobs that need sorting out in order to live comfortably in the house with most things working.

Our old next door neighbours came to see us for lunch on Saturday which was lovely. She is especially nutty has different values to me, but they are good fun. I think one of my new next door neighbours may prove to be a bit of a Hyacinth Bucket. She has already come round suggesting I take on her gardener. Not sure that having a gardener is a priority right now given all the other things we could spend our money on. It has definitely pained her living next door to our dishevelled house over the last few years and now she is q forthcoming on how we could pretty it up!

DS1 is probably about to come down with a bug. He has just fallen asleep on the sofa after tea at 5.45! Hopefully he just can't handle the pace of full days at pre school. sad

Gigondas Mon 27-Feb-12 18:54:52

Yes happy birthday and great present deb.

Is this the old neighbour who was all pfb? She did sound a bit nutty different lag. But it does sound like you are starting to get through the jobs tho.

How has ds been since you moved lag? I remember you saying he was upset and off colour but is he more settled now?

Dd2 seems bit better last few days-thanks for tips on wind but also tried a new formula and think that all this seemed to have helped. She is being super smiley and cute as I type this.

LaGuerta Mon 27-Feb-12 19:48:37

The very same neighbour. She is still madly PFB. So many anecdotes I could relate, but as an example, she has an electronic nasal aspiration to extract snot from the poor kid's nose every 5 mins grin. She is on her second aspirator as the first broke through overuse. They are getting married this summer and am preparing myself for her hen do in Poland confused. I need to do some serious glamming before that one blush she is vv high maintenance.

LaGuerta Mon 27-Feb-12 19:53:29

DS is ok since move. Lovely one second then a PIA, then rough with smaller kids such as Dizzy's ds2. blush and old neighbour's 20 month old. Definitely a bit unsettled but happy and excited about new house, his room, garden, pre school etc.

Gigondas Mon 27-Feb-12 20:13:40

Poland , hen do - avoid the vodka wink

Electronic aspirator? Wtf!?

And think lovely/pita is just being 3. I know am tired but I thought they're meant to be older before they start arguing back .

DizzyDancing Mon 27-Feb-12 21:29:58

Quite a few of DS1's friends are rough with DS2 - no idea why! blush Poor DS2 - although he's seriously in my bad books tonight, having pulled my shopping bag onto the floor (despite being told not to!) and breaking a whole box of eggs hmm.

Deb, what a fab pressie for your dh - lucky you too! grin

Love the PFB stories smile.

Gig, glad DD2 is more settled - wind is so tough for you and baby sad.

Right, off to do some knitting and wind down after a long but productive day smile.

Gigondas Wed 29-Feb-12 19:07:32

How was this week dizzy?

Got good news yesterday -next steps are 6 weeks of radio therapy starting in april as precaution on recurrence. They are also checking my chest spots with repeat scan in few months. It may be something or nothing so slightly worrying but at least am being watched/checked .

Have asked dizzy this but Got teacher/mum issue for you. Dd1 got a time out at school today for spitting on another kid. Says he did it too (which rings true as i know she is no angel but this isn't one of her tricks). Have no problem with punishing her but has now had a few minor time outs in last few weeks.

It may well be due dd2 etc and her being tired (but not been worse at home) but think issue may be that her usual teacher has Been off sick and there has been at least 3 changes of personnel (incl the kids favourite assistant being moved on) which hasn't helped. Am I being a bit precious saying I don't mind punishment but am concerned about effect of staffing (why were they allows to spit and also why did she come home with grazed hand where it was shut in a door....). Thoughts??

TheScottishPlayer Wed 29-Feb-12 23:03:42

Really glad you got some good news Gig - I've been thinking of you. Fingers and toes crossed the shadows are nothing to worry about, but it's good that you're in the system as it were and being kept an eye on. How are you feeling physically now?

On the school issue - possibly because I'm a bit conflict adverse, I'd probably be tempted to leave it a few weeks to see how things pan out once the staffing issues settle. Did the other boy get a time out too? I've noticed DS really pushing boundaries recently and being prone to a bit more naughtiness - I wonder if all that has been going on for DD1 could be incidental? From what you posted I'd probably be most concerned about the hand in the door - I'd want to know exactly how that happened?

We had a meeting with DS's nursery this week about toothgate. It's taken so long because of diary commitments but also because I wanted to wait until I was a bit less emotional about it. Everything they talked about seemed perfectly plausible - it sounds like it really was just an unfortunate accident and DS was being properly (and closely) supervised when it happened. They did give us the opportunity to ask for any changes in terms of play, but they're keen to promote age appropriate 'risky play' and we're loathe to interfere with that.

Hope everyone else is well - bit manic with work here so I'm just knackered!

Gigondas Thu 01-Mar-12 08:37:48

Am glad you got some answers about ds accident . How is his mouth since then?

I think on balance you are right re nursery but dh pretty cross. His issue is that has generally felt dd is easy to ignore as is confident /self contained and finds this latest incident. It wasn't helped by another email this am to say that they are going to use a supply teacher now for main teacher who has been off sick for about 5 weeks now. Cant (and don't blame) school for that but frankly I think after the first sign she would not be back (was meant to be 2 weeks off) , would have made proper arrangements. It smacks of being cheap .

Dd can be challenging (although not noticed that a lot worse at home with every thing going on) but this incident isn't really the kind of thing she does. If it had been not sitting down or tidying up when asked or being stubborn, that would make sense but this is out of blue and also
Seems she was only one picked on.

TheScottishPlayer Thu 01-Mar-12 14:35:19

Thanks Gig. He's completely fine now though his gum looks a bit wobbly. I'm going to take him to our dentist for her to have a look.

If no one else got a time out for the spitting incident I think I would probably want to know why. That's rubbish re: the teacher. What's the set up at DD's school - is it more 'school like' than nursery? Although DS is in pre-school it's a nursery set up so several staff for all the pupils. There is only one 'teacher' as such and the rest are qualified and part-qualified nursery staff. There's been a bit of staff turnover in DS's room lately, but because there are still lots of familiar faces and no one is in a lead role I don't think it's had much of an impact on him. DS's key worker left but they brought someone from another room to replace her so it was someone DS already knew.

Can I share a heartbreaking moment with DS that I can't tell anyone about in RL? We told DS about a family member expecting a baby and he was really excited - except he misunderstood and thought he was getting a baby sister (ironic given that the new baby is a boy but that's an aside grin). When we explained he was heartbroken - his face really crumpled and he was really upset sad. I've never seen him so genuinely upset about something (i.e. very different from crying because of a tantrum/hurt himself/not getting his own way). It was really upsetting sad. I'd love to reassure him that he will have a baby brother or sister one day but no idea if we're going to be fortunate in that respect. Time will tell...

Deb, I meant to say - great present! I had centre court tickets for women's semi-final day once - it was fab.

Gigondas Thu 01-Mar-12 16:40:59

Thanks for thoughts on nursery - I will let dh get on with it as my focus at minute is getting better (I can tell you I am attractive picture in my onesie lolling on sofa grin). Am just trying to live string as dizzy would say - and when am not tired/emotional
Have every intention of being here to moan etc re the dc at 18 etc.

Re ds and his reaction that is heartbreaking . sad ESP as doesn't sound like had any indication of that depth of feeling? It's so hard when you have to see them upset about things you can't control and are trying not to show your reaction.

What is your current thinking about having another? I know it was on the cards for this year. My views is all worth it despite all the hassle (and I will always harbor a suspicion that all stress and hormones over last few years played its part in the tumour).

DizzyDancing Thu 01-Mar-12 20:05:06

Glad you're lolling about on the sofa Gig, exactly what you should be doing smile. Have already chatted on txt about nursery situation so won't repeat it all. Hope it's a one off and things settle soon.

(((((SP))))), so sorry for your sadness about DS's reaction to the pg news. There are no easy answers to it are there? Please try not to dwell - if he remains an only child that's no bad thing either - pros and cons to both x

Hi to everyone else. Supposed to be exercising tonight but too tired blush - mum and dad coming up tomorrow so will hope for some rest smile.

TheScottishPlayer Thu 01-Mar-12 21:49:59

Thanks folks. I'm also glad to hear that your lolling about on the sofa Gig. Are you really in a onesie? grin

Re another - yes, well remembered Gig, this year's the year (or not, depending on the cards we get dealt with). No luck so far but it is only the 1st March so the year is still young... Watch this space!

LaG, Deb, Mudwiggle - how are you all doing?

disguisedeb Thu 01-Mar-12 23:18:57

Back online - hurrah , and recovering after my step back into work again. Just done 3 long days, SP, I do not know how you work f/t and have energy to study too.I am knackered.Enjoying it though, despite having to dress up for world book day today.Will catch up properly tomorrow, but skimmed through to see how you're doing Gig, and it's all sounding really good. smile

TheScottishPlayer Fri 02-Mar-12 00:11:27

Welcome back Deb. I do the work/study/parent thing quite badly grin. The end is in sight though! Fingers crossed I pass my final exam in May and I have until August to finish my dissertation (3 years late) grin

DizzyDancing Sun 04-Mar-12 14:08:13

marking my place smile

SP, I continue to be in awe of your studying - the fact that you're completing a dissertation at all, while parenting a pre-schooler and holding down a job is nothing short of a miracle! grin

Gigondas Sun 04-Mar-12 21:23:42

Also marking my place and bowing at Scottish and her multi tasking too.

Tiring weekend as dd2 not settling well at night (may be Time for cot) and went to visit the outlaws which was ok but long day. Being tired seems much tougher at moment given all the ops (and doesn't help my state of mind- note to self: letters from
Oncologist with her odd communication style go in the don't look at this pile a lot with google searches wink)

Gigondas Sun 04-Mar-12 21:24:21

Oh and dd1 was asking after dizzy ds1 And ds2

DizzyDancing Sun 04-Mar-12 21:28:21

Aw bless her smile, did you tell her we're visiting soon?

Gigondas Sun 04-Mar-12 21:30:38

Yes which got us onto how many sleeps til then. She was almost excited about this as about the fact Barbie mermaid 2 is out this week...wink

disguisedeb Mon 05-Mar-12 07:45:01

marking spot, good weekend but had a tummy bug of sorts yesterday, feel much brighter today. hope eveyrone else is ok

LaGuerta Mon 05-Mar-12 17:23:42

Marking spot.

Busy weekend unpacking and constructing Ikea stuff. I now have all my clothes in wardrobes. Iurns out that I don't need 90% of them given that I have lived out of two pairs of jeans and a few tops for the last three weeks.

Scottish - sad at your ds's reaction to baby news and your reaction to his reaction. Lots of best wishes for this year. I'm an only child and I'm fine <twitches> wink.

Gig good to hear you sounding positive and strong.

Deb - typical to get a bug after a few days in a school isn't it. Hope you are feeling better.

TheScottishPlayer Tue 06-Mar-12 22:15:46

Thanks LaG. If we get good news at some point you'll probably all be among the first to know!

How is everyone this week? DH away in London and it's a horrible windy night here - the house is rattling away which gives me the heebie jeebies!

Dizzy, how is your job going. That's been a couple of weeks now I think? I wanted to pick your brains actually (and anyone else who wants to throw their tuppence in) on gardening with little people. DS is obsessed with doing some 'planting' now that we're getting into Spring. We have a flower free garden and stick to a few zero low maintenance shrubs which we replace when we've finished them off. Any suggestions of good things to plant with him at this time of year? Preferably in a tub or something suitably portable.

Gig, are you fed up with people asking how you are yet? If so, I shan't ask wink How is DD getting on at pre-school?

LaGuerta Wed 07-Mar-12 11:26:15

Scottish - it turns out I have bought a very windy house. The amazing views also make it quite exposed. What's more when it is windy like it is now, the wind does something strange round our bedroom and sort of sings/howls. Poor DS1 already has a bit of a wind hang up making this house not exactly his dream home. Either he will end up with a lifelong hang up or the house will knock it out of him.

Half of our electrics went out last night including the boiler. Got an electrician out this morning who set the fusebox back and now it was fine confused at least the house is warming up now.

TheScottishPlayer Wed 07-Mar-12 13:54:52

We had a wierd electricity thing recently LaG - all of the sockets and some lights went, but nothing had tripped in our fusebox. I did some googling and did some research and found out how to reset the box and everything was fine. Apparently, modern fuseboxes might do this if there is a problem temporarily with something plugged in to protect the system. I was a bit paranoid about it but everything has been fine since. However, we have got an old extension lead that we use so I always make sure that's turned off before bed - which reminds me, we really must replace it.

Sympathies on the wind - it's my least favourite type of weather. I hope it cures DS of his wind hang up! Our house backs on to a sort of square so the wind gets trapped and howls round. I hate it.

Gigondas Thu 08-Mar-12 05:54:09

Did a long post but phone ate it. Am not too bad Scottish- just between trying to take it easy so scar heals and with dd2 am bit knackered.

Off to france this weekend tho so that is good (taking my mum to help).

Sympathies re electric issues - it took us 5 years (and numerous electrician visits) to work out why our fuse box went everytime there is a storm. Turned out there was an unconnected wire on our patio (set up for one of those out door electrics ) that blew the box every time it seriously rained.

Poor ds1 lag- I am not keen on noise of wind but can you pretend house is his special safe den.

Scottish - we are rubbish gardeners with hit and miss record on growing things but strawberries , tomatoes as plants go well and sunflower seeds a winner as are those white/yellow daisy type things you can grow (fried egg plants). You can also buy potato planters which are quite good.

Gigondas Thu 08-Mar-12 05:54:24

Hi to everyone else

DizzyDancing Thu 08-Mar-12 21:24:07

Hi everyone, quick post. SP - I would second what Gig says about fruit/veg - relatively easy to grow and the kids can eat it! DS1 loved picking and eating his own tomatoes last year - he was so proud of himself! We also grew courgette and made an amazing chocolate and courgette cake grin.

TheScottishPlayer Thu 08-Mar-12 21:53:24

Thanks Dizzy and Gig for planting suggestions. Do you think tomatoes would grow in the frozen north? grin I like the idea of fruit/veg generally though especially as DS loves baking. We made some courgette muffins recently as it happens, but chocolate and courgette cake sounds MUCH better!

TheScottishPlayer Mon 12-Mar-12 09:20:44

Morning all. How was everyone's weekend? Bit of a dull one hear - I've been floored with some kind of sinus/head cold type thing which has left me feeling rotten. Thankfully DH is off today so he's on parental duties so I can be a bit lazy.

How was France Gig - are you back yet?

Gigondas Mon 12-Mar-12 17:46:41

Just back and it was lovely. My mum came too and we did loads of stuff (and I ate loadswink) . Even managed to get "date" in as dh and I went for dinner on Saturday. Mini gig sleeping miles better too and was great in car (midi gig or dd1 was a bloody nightmare in her car seat for first year).

Sorry you are POorly again Scottish - you only just got over a cold.

Appt tomorrow to find out re radio therapy- want to do this now so can get it out way but know that will have a downer as oncologist whilst an excellent dr isn't the best on communications . So am asking now for distracting/funny stories post visit tomorrow smile

Also am hmm re school- wrote in dd1 diary that she wouldn't be in on Friday etc. got a call on answer phone from school on Friday asking where she is (have used book before so never had an issue like this in past). Thought things were getting better as had excellent sub teacher now but seems like communications an issue again. Just as well it wasnt anything important in there .

Gigondas Mon 12-Mar-12 17:48:49

Posted on thread re age for babies sleeping in own room... Wish I hadnt. Saying I feed mini gig fruitshoots and had her ears pierced would get less vehemence .

TheScottishPlayer Mon 12-Mar-12 17:56:48

Glad to hear you had a good w/e Gig. Well deserved.

Where's this other thread? I had a greggs sausage roll the other day. It was lovely - and I gave DS a bite grin

DizzyDancing Mon 12-Mar-12 19:22:01

Ooh, have to link Gig! grin We'll on wade in and defend you!

Glad you had a nice w/e - what time is your appt so I can text you some funny stories smile.

Had a lovely weekend - went to see Billy Elliott on Saturday with my mum, was absolutely the best musical I've ever seen, amazing!

Gigondas Mon 12-Mar-12 19:45:45

Half nine so may have to hit shops after for therapy.

My dad also loved that musical as did a friend and both were dragged under duress.

It's on sleep thread. Am a bit sensitive about it as both dd were in own room at 6 weeks but I am paranoid about all other sleep advice, am in checking through the night (even on dd1) - also room (and cots) are about 5 yards away so you can hear breathing (or snoring in dh casewink),

TheScottishPlayer Mon 12-Mar-12 20:26:35

Gig, I put DS in his own room quite early on - about 8 weeks I think. I was always in checking, doing the night feeds and I had a baby monitor up loud. I haven't seen the other thread but I think it's ironic that people bang on about how SIDS say you should have babies in your room but MN is full of co-sleepers which SIDS says is dangerous confused

Gigondas Mon 12-Mar-12 20:43:40

I know and it's the implication that you are willfully doing stuff to your kids like you don't care.

DizzyDancing Mon 12-Mar-12 21:00:44

DS1 went into his own room at 4 mths when he outgrew his Moses basket -however, he went upstairs to bed at about 6wks so from 7pm til 10ish was sleeping on his own.

DS2 was 7mths when he went into his own room - but, and a big but, he slept on his tummy virtually from day one blush sad. I'm not proud of it but he was a shocking sleeper and never settled on his back. I had to have him right next to me so I could sleep with one eye open sad.

We do what works for us - don't berate yourself about it x

TheScottishPlayer Mon 12-Mar-12 21:13:16

Oh, I forgot about putting him upstairs - I probably did that from about 4 weeks too. Dizzy's right - you make the best decisions for your DC based on what works best for you. I always think those who are really judgy and sanctimonious about parenting on MN are those horrible friendless passive aggressive types you come across in RL.

Gigondas Tue 13-Mar-12 10:56:12

grinat passive aggressive people. I don't feel too bad until read stuff like that.

Oncologist appt went ok - she was loads better. I can start treatment in a couple of weeks (either week before or after Easter) . 6 weeks of daily weekday appt so have asked for early appt to get it done .

The most amusing thing is I get a mould of my arse/legs (you have it to keep you in place on the table)

DizzyDancing Tue 13-Mar-12 18:18:04

That will make an interesting talking piece in years to come Gig grin!

Gigondas Tue 13-Mar-12 18:23:11

Strange you should say that -dh wants to ask if can keep it grin

DizzyDancing Tue 13-Mar-12 18:27:21

I think you should - display it on your wall, or sell it to the Tate grin!

Gigondas Tue 13-Mar-12 18:41:56

Dd is looking at me and asking why I am laughing like a loony smile

DizzyDancing Tue 13-Mar-12 19:28:10


Gigondas Wed 14-Mar-12 08:51:12

Agh. Please tell me that the stroppy shouting and tantrums ESP when tired is an age thing...

TheScottishPlayer Wed 14-Mar-12 12:40:56

Not convinced. I'm a bit prone to a shouty tantrum when I'm tired grin

Gigondas Wed 14-Mar-12 14:28:20

wink I know what you mean. Plus bless my nanny she is lovely but can talk and talk. I think some "tantrums" are dd trying to get a word in

LaGuerta Wed 14-Mar-12 17:07:45

Hi! Marking spot. A bit of a hectic weekend with a wedding and PILs here to babysit. FIL and I did lots in the garden which was good to get done. I like pressure washers!

Not posting much at the moment because Internet time is being taken up with trying to find a ski holiday for next weekend. We are now engaged in a game of brinkmanship with Mark Warner to see whether we cave and book or hold off until their prices come down a bit more. £400 cheaper now in total than this time last week.

Glad you had a good weekend in Paris Gig and you know where you stand with the treatment plan. Your cast sounds classier than the member of my NCT group who did the belly cast thing in her garden when she was heavily pregnant.

TheScottishPlayer Sat 17-Mar-12 08:59:47

Just checking it to see if there were any posts and smiled to myself on realising I can actually see the Olympic park from the room I'm in at the moment in my friends house. smile

LaGuerta Sat 17-Mar-12 17:22:10

Nice to see some of you today. Especially Scottish for the first time. Your DS1 is lovely BTW. Sorry I had to dash off at the end without saying goodbye. We are on the train now that I was aiming for. I haven't quite got my head around the slightly longer journey time and the lower frequency of trains.

Great to have you back in the UK Mudwiggle. Will have to meet up with the ds2s next time even though only having the three year old's today was rather nice blush

DizzyDancing Sat 17-Mar-12 22:37:44

Hi all, had one very very tired DS1 this evening smile - although he was too excited to sleep on the way home in the car! He kept on telling me how much he missed "the boys" and how he wanted to see them all again smile.

Right, I'm knackered - off to bed smile.

TheScottishPlayer Sun 18-Mar-12 09:46:51

DS said he was missing his new friends when we switched to the jubilee line. Lovely to see/ meet some of you and your DSs. Sorry not to get the change to see Gig - next time !

Had a very grown up night last night and now have a very grown up sore head grin

DizzyDancing Tue 20-Mar-12 20:44:50

Where's everyone gone?!

TheScottishPlayer Wed 21-Mar-12 13:35:22

I'm at work bumping my gums about the budget!

TheScottishPlayer Thu 22-Mar-12 19:13:05

<falls over tumbleweed>

DizzyDancing Thu 22-Mar-12 20:14:38

<trips over the tumbleweed SP has just fallen over> grin

TheScottishPlayer Thu 22-Mar-12 20:53:09

<kicks some tumbleweed at Dizzy, waits for everyone else to come out to play> grin

LaGuerta Fri 23-Mar-12 18:32:09

Waves. Doing bathtime should be more actively supervising. (nb I am in the bathroom with them not on the PC or anything)

LaGuerta Sat 24-Mar-12 19:18:00

Still tumbleweed then.

We are off skiing tomorrow. Yippee! I will doubtless be around though if we stump up for wifi in the chalet. With the clocks changing and a 6.40 flight we will be getting up VERY early. Night all...

TheScottishPlayer Sat 24-Mar-12 19:57:09

Sounds like it's hardly worth going to bed grin

Hope you have a fab trip. Not much to report on here - lazy-ish day catching up on chores. Nightmare weather day with fairly thick haar all day. It looks more promising tomorrow so DS and I have been whizzing up some fruit and yoghurt to make ice lollies for tomorrow perhaps to optimistically

Gigondas Sun 25-Mar-12 08:35:25

Enjoy your trip lag.

Nice here (rubs it in) but have been feeling poorly with wound infection that's resolved itself somewhat messily over night (I tell you it could beat any pus porn story here). I hope that means wound heals up properly now and my radiotherapy doesn't get delayed.

Quiet day I think here

TheScottishPlayer Sun 25-Mar-12 10:00:35

We have sunshine!

DizzyDancing Sun 25-Mar-12 17:30:54

Have fun LG grin!

Sorry to hear about the wound Gig, hope you're feeling better?

Hope you enjoyed your lollies SP smile.

Have just come back from doing the Sport Relief Mile in London, brilliant day and got to see the delectable Tennant in the flesh grin!

All very tired now though and have one grumpy husband on my hands hmm!

TheScottishPlayer Sun 25-Mar-12 18:40:06

The lollies were great Dizzy! We've been in the garden all afternoon which was fab especially as nightmare neighbours weren't around

Sport relief sounds fun. Very envy of seeing Tennant in the flesh.

Gig - sorry to hear about the wound. Sounds painful (and messy). How is it today? When is your radiotherapy due to start?

Very annoyed I'm working tomorrow when I don't normally work on a Mon - it's supposed to be even sunnier. Meh.

Gigondas Sun 25-Mar-12 19:13:22

Well done on sport relief mile dizzy . And grr re work Scottish.

I am feeling a bit of relief but wound still tender and I feel like have Gastric flu (which seems to be anti bio side effects). Rads meant to start 2 weeks away but can see that going by the board. Which prob means can't do holiday we have just booked in June sad and prob no insurance on that cos of my condition.

But it was the mother of all pus porn incidents wink

DizzyDancing Sun 25-Mar-12 20:33:16

<https://my.sportrelief.com/sponsor/familydando cheekily sneaks her sponsorship page on in case anyone wants to bung us a few quid> grin

yuck at the pus porn!

and sad about working - rubbish!

TheScottishPlayer Sun 25-Mar-12 20:39:42

<boak> at pus porn. Fingers crossed for your treatment/holiday though Gig. Where have you booked for?

Well done on Sport Relief Dizzy - you've made your target grin

DizzyDancing Mon 26-Mar-12 22:14:08

Thank you SP grin!

Gigondas Mon 26-Mar-12 22:26:13

Feeling bit better but need another minor op to put vacuum drain in which should stop more pus porn, speed healing and hopefully keep rad on schedule.

Dd1 has some kind of lurgy - cant tell if cold/end of term or some more nasty nursery big but hoping she feels better tomorrow.

Dd2 full of joys and hoping it stays that way (luckily dd1 bit jealous/bored so doesn't bother with her much so hoping any lurgy stays away)

DizzyDancing Mon 26-Mar-12 22:31:02

Oh sorry to hear about another op gig, will this be a GA or just local?

Gigondas Tue 27-Mar-12 14:17:11

Think ga (but only for little bit) as its awkward to fit. Which is shame as effects longer to get over . But am hopeful will fix wound issue.

DizzyDancing Tue 27-Mar-12 21:27:27

Fingers crossed Gig, you don't want any delay in the radio if at all possible.

Funny day at work today: went to a meeting today with one of the most patronising headteachers I've ever encountered - in his office he had a 2 1/2 foot tall portrait of him and his family posed on a bench shock! The most bizarre thing I've ever seen in an HT's office grin. He was very annoying and endlessly upset the parents while I was trying to smooth things over hmm.

I'm missing the boys a bit at the moment (can't win can I blush) so really looking forward to the Easter holidays smile. DS1 is now getting really really excited about starting school which is brilliant as it's going to be such a wrench for me, so it will be lovely to be carried along by his enthusiasm smile. He was telling us about some basic addition he's been doing today when we were having dinner and he was so proud of himself - very sweet smile.

Right, better catch up on my emails!

Gigondas Tue 27-Mar-12 21:37:03

That's a badge of mad . I really would make millions from my "what you can tell about people from offices /desks" . Big posed family photos IMe= 1. Egotist2. Someone who prob isn't the family man they make out.

Sorry you are missing boys but nice ds is keen on school.

Really hope tomorrow sorts it (have faith in my surgeon) as it really is a pain in the arse in every way grin

DizzyDancing Tue 27-Mar-12 21:51:48

grin I did say to the team when I got back to the office that the HT's office was big but we all had to squash in around his ego grin! He really is an arse - and I have to have a lot of dealings with him much to my boss' amusement! smile

Hope op all goes smoothly x

TheScottishPlayer Tue 27-Mar-12 21:54:57

Ditto the badge of mad view. WTF????

That's nice re: school excitement though obvs I think they should all wait another year so that DS isn't left out grin DS is really interested in letters and numbers just now so while I'm glad that he's not going to school this year I can see that I'm going to be VERY bored of phonics by the time he does!

He wants to know when he's seeing his new friends 'the boys' again grin

Gig - I'm glad you're getting the op if it helps sort things out quickly and keep your treatment on track. One less thing you could do with though I'm sure.

Still sunny up here - two days I've spent in a windowless basement on a course though sad

Gigondas Tue 27-Mar-12 22:06:45

Boo re being in basement.

It's good tho Scottish if ds keen and gets stuck in to his numbers etc. we had talk aimed at pushy mums about how important it is not to rush letters/rhyming as need to have firm grip on letter and sounds to help reading.

Will let you know how it goes. Are any of you lot addicted to draw something?

TheScottishPlayer Tue 27-Mar-12 22:14:55

Yeah, definitely trying not to push it and leave it up to DS to lead. I've got some phonics stuff which is easy for him to access and get out. What he really loves though is some wipe clean letters/numbers books we have. He sits with them for ages.

What is this draw thing? I've seen it mentioned but don't know what it is. Is it more of an iPad than iPhone thing?

Gigondas Tue 27-Mar-12 22:46:32

It both and mega addictive if you are pants with letters With friends type things. You draw things and other people have to guess.always up for more online friends to play with grin

DizzyDancing Wed 28-Mar-12 22:03:51

You must come and see us again soon then SP smile.

I was listening to someone on Radio 4 talking about Draw Something yesterday - happy to join in if you tell me what I need to do grin!

Gigondas Wed 28-Mar-12 22:12:22

Ohh - buy the app then search for my email (or hardandsleazy). It's addictive.

Did you see the apprentice?

Op went better than expected - I do have a drain in for a few days (awkward) but not a vac so wound better than I thought. Lovely to be home even if limited in activity til It comes out (prob early next week).

Dd2 very cute and chatty at the minute .

Gigondas Thu 29-Mar-12 07:03:42

Waiting patiently for other saddos to join her and play draw something .

DizzyDancing Sat 31-Mar-12 00:14:16

I'v bought the app but can't work out how to search for your email!

TheScottishPlayer Sat 31-Mar-12 10:25:20

I've now joined draw something! Gig have sent you a game (I don't know what I'm doing though). My user name is v similar to an old MN name of mine beginning with 'keep'

Gigondas Sat 31-Mar-12 10:59:40

Have got both your game invites. It's most addictive ESP when you are house bound attached to a drain.

Clean up went well on weds (although Post anaesthetic come down/fatigue was yuck) so stuck with drain in pottering at home til early Next week.

TheScottishPlayer Sat 31-Mar-12 11:05:06

I'm playing with you Gig. But I think I started game before setting a username. What was wrong with my apron drawing? grin

TheScottishPlayer Sat 31-Mar-12 11:06:09

Sorry, also glad everything went well on Wed. We'll keep you company with your pottering on draw something!

Gigondas Sat 31-Mar-12 11:40:01

I thought it was trousers wink.

Am grimly fascinated now with my drain now.

Dd1 got a bad case of end of term/cold and is very grumpy today . Could be a log day

Gigondas Sat 31-Mar-12 11:40:08

Long even

TheScottishPlayer Sat 31-Mar-12 11:44:20

Ah, I've figured out how to do thin lines. Fab.

disguisedeb Sun 01-Apr-12 09:03:35

Happy April Fools day, Mumsnet had me there, for a couple of minutes I believed, it, how gullible am I?

Hello to you all, I can catchup now it's the Easter holidays. So I will have a quick skim and see what I've missed. Hope you are all OK.

disguisedeb Sun 01-Apr-12 09:22:54

Gig, sorry to hear about the pus porn, but glad to know that you have the drain now, fingers crossed that it's sorted and doesn't delay the radiotherapy. Don't have iphone or ipad here, androids instead so can't join your draw thing. sad

Scottish - I was thinking about you when they said how warm it was in Scotland, what a bugger that you were in a basement.(sounds a bit weird when you read that back)

LaG - how was skiing, am jealous, we didn't get there this year but we are trying to get to Austria for 3 weeks in the summer, can't wait.

Dizzy, OMG, I can't believe that head. The school I'm working in at the mo, the head has an ugly sister dressing up dress on the back of her door, and there's wine and chocolate in the fridge for emergencies.It's a great school but I am knackered. Leaving home at 7.15 and getting back at 6, then working after boys have gone to bed (which isn't until 9 for Stefan) until midnight , preparing for the next day. I still don't know how long I'm there for, it's becomne a union issue with the teacher I'm covering so it's not good.I miss my boys too Dizzy, especially Ethan as I spent so much time with him before, but saying that it's been great for his relationship with Nigel. He's not so much a Mummy's boy now.

Now I can think of other things, I am looking for accommodation near Wimbledon for July, anyone got any ideas? Relatives with spare rooms? Hotels are so expensive, unless we opt for travelodge again, which is fine but it's just quite a distance from Wimbledon.

Other news here, been Stefan's Birthday on Friday, he's now 12 and taller than me shock and I'm 5 foot 6!! We've got a giant in the house, with a giant appetite as well., wish I could eat so much and be so thin!

OK, That's enough from me, hope you are all enjoying a restful Sunday, don't think I've said welcome back to the UK Mudwiggle, hope you're enjoying life back in the UK.Any pangs for NZ?

TheScottishPlayer Sun 01-Apr-12 21:02:05

Welcome back Deb! I was wondering how you are. Glad you're enjoying working. I had a little smile at the early starts and not getting home until after 6, then working after 9pm. It sounded vaguely familiar grin

Not too much to report on here - fairly quiet weekend catching up on chores and missing out on the last of the lovely Spring heatwave. We're expecting snow this weekend <gets snow shovel back out of the shed>. DH will be away much of the week so I'm hoping it stays in the hills. DS very enthusiastically planted a blueberry plant and some other things last weekend - I'm not convinced they'll survive the drop in temperature.

I've also dusted off the textbooks this weekend as the mad panic sets in for what will hopefully be my final exam. I swore I'd be really organised for this one, but no, last minute as usual. Instead of having MN to distract me this time though, Gig has me hooked on draw something which we've been playing all weekend. It's all Dizzy's fault - if she hadn't mentioned it on fb again then I would have forgotten about for a little while at least

I'll be glad when the exam is over then I can concentrate on our 'stay cation' - basically a trip to the Midlands and the North West. It will include a trip to ThomasLand at Drayton Manor which DS will love! This is our alternative to a summer holiday as we're trying to save to help facilitate a move in a year or two (having decided def not to try and sell the house this year). We've got various free accommodation lined up which DH won and a long forgotten stash of tesco club card vouchers will provide us with a week's worth of days out. Win win.

This week we're off to the cbeebies live show. Had I known though that the much cheaper Gruffalo would be on here this week I wouldn't have forked out. I'm sure DS will love it (even though his affection is firmly with Disney Jnr these days.

Going back to phonics which I mentioned a while ago - we've now discovered the Alphablocks section on the cbeebies website with lots of interactive games. DS loves it and for the most part can play away quite happily on it his own. It's quite intuitive so worth a look if it's likely to appeal to any of your DC.

Right, time to put my feet up with a wee beer I think!

Gigondas Sun 01-Apr-12 21:27:56

Will keep off drawing if it helps grin. Snow isn't good tho.

Nice to hear from you Deb- stefan is 12!!! Wow

Wound healing slower than I would like and have nanny issues. She is off with bad back . I am Torn between sympathy and stress (Childcare with a drain in no joke) . ESP as claiming its due to carrying the buggy up our steps (I asked her not to bump it after dh freaked over 120 quid of repairs to our old one.... I hasten to add I don't expect her to do it with kids in it and Its a light buggy). Tbh I don't know what to do and she is really adding to my stress levels (even when here there have been issues).

Gigondas Sun 01-Apr-12 21:29:52

Scottish have FB messaged you as wanted your advice

TheScottishPlayer Sun 01-Apr-12 21:53:20

Hope advice helped - fb me if there's anything else. Tough situation for you.

DizzyDancing Sun 01-Apr-12 22:00:59

Hi Deb smile - your post has put me off going back to the classroom I have to admit blush. Happy birthday Stefan!

Gig, so sorry to hear about nanny issues sad. Hope SP has been able to advise and you can get something sorted - what a nightmare sad.

Gigondas Sun 01-Apr-12 22:09:55

Advice did help loads- dh says thanks. He is pissed off as the sick issues seem to be known about in advance so we get a text each weekend about it (or so it seems...).

TheScottishPlayer Sun 01-Apr-12 23:11:03

No problem at all. Happy to help, let me know how it goes, but in the meantime Draw Something grin

disguisedeb Mon 02-Apr-12 17:51:23

ok I've found Draw something but can't find any of you, give me hints about your usernames or message me on fb

Gigondas Mon 02-Apr-12 17:52:40

Try hardandsleazy

Gigondas Mon 02-Apr-12 18:51:08

Remind me not to post for employment advice. Some good, some unhelpful - wish I had 1. Never raise buggy issue as apparently my desire not to have expensive kit knackered by bumping over steps or left outside Is unreasonable

LaGuerta Mon 02-Apr-12 22:31:52

Quick hello.

Back from an excellent (sans wifi) skiing holiday yesterday and then 7 loads of washing plus 6 kids here today means I am ready for bed.

Back tomorrow to catch up properly.

TheScottishPlayer Mon 02-Apr-12 22:53:31

Don't join draw something LaG. You'll never get through the washing grin

Gigondas Mon 02-Apr-12 23:12:27

Addictive isn't it?

DizzyDancing Tue 03-Apr-12 08:30:23

Far too addictive!! grin

Glad you had a good holiday LG smile.

Gigondas Tue 03-Apr-12 08:54:53

Some of the words are a bit random- Taylor?

DizzyDancing Tue 03-Apr-12 09:00:25

yes, very American unfortunately!

TheScottishPlayer Tue 03-Apr-12 19:52:09

Some interesting pics on draw today. Like Deb's wormhole grin

DizzyDancing Tue 03-Apr-12 19:55:42

wormhole? wow, well done Deb! grin

Feeling crap today - seem to be going down with the obligatory holiday cold sad. Have had to cancel going to LG's tomorrow which I'm gutted about sad. LG was less so, as she replaced me in 10 mins hmm grin wink.

Right, off to Draw Something!

Gigondas Tue 03-Apr-12 19:58:48

Thats put you in your place dizzy. Sorry you are feeling crap tho

disguisedeb Tue 03-Apr-12 20:17:54

SP, that was Tristan, he asked if he could have a go, I thought why not, when I saw his wormhole picture, I had to laugh (inside of course) Wormhole wouldn't have been the 1st thing I would have thought of when looking at it!!!!! grin

dizzy, isn't it annoying when friends do that to you wink

DizzyDancing Tue 03-Apr-12 20:22:10

I've forgiven her, just wink.

TheScottishPlayer Tue 03-Apr-12 21:03:59

It made me laugh out loud Deb, and no, wormhole def didn't spring to mind. grin

Sorry to hear about your cold Dizzy.

Weather is wild and vile here!!!!

LaGuerta Tue 03-Apr-12 21:05:51

Sorry about that. What happened was that a neighbour called round unannounced to introduce herself as we have similar aged kids. She invited me round tomorrow for coffee. I have now had my comeuppance though because DS2 who has been poorly since Friday night has been sick at bedtime so we probably shouldn't go to the neighbour's after all.

I will try and resist draw something until I am more on top of the washing mountain, car mot, dodgy boiler etc...

DizzyDancing Tue 03-Apr-12 21:37:35

Oh no, poor DS2 sad.

My imagination is now running wild at what on earth the wormhole looked that! grin

DizzyDancing Tue 03-Apr-12 21:38:04

looked like I mean!

disguisedeb Tue 03-Apr-12 23:51:12

blizzard here tonight, check out nigel's video on my facebook if you can, electric is flickering now

LaGuerta Wed 04-Apr-12 16:36:09

Sent hardandsleazy a drawing. What are other people's names? Can you have multiplayer games? Are there any instructions any