Week 2 - Autumn Low Carb Bootcamp(521 Posts)
Well! It's the first day of reckoning:
Here is the Spreadsheet of Wonderfulness
I am waving my big stick around already, because it's obvious from the most recent threads that there has been a fair amount of cheating going on.
And we have only just finished week one!
A couple of things:
IT'S NOT CALLED BOOTCAMP FOR NOTHING
This period is designed to shift you quickly into becoming ketogenically adapted, i.e. to shift your body into burning fat rather than burning carbs.
This can only happen if you consistently reduce the carbs that you are consuming
If you cheat - even if it is just the odd thing here and there - then this won't happen, and it will take you much longer to start burning (and therefore losing) fat.
These two weeks were never going to be easy. And although I wrote about them, and how you needed to plan for them, it's clear that this hasn't always been appreciated.
I do, really, understand that it is hard. Especially if low carbing is new for you. But it's designed with a purpose, and you will really see the benefit of it if you stick with it.
JUST BECAUSE YOU'VE DONE BOOTCAMP BEFORE DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S ANY DIFFERENT FOR YOU
Please be mindful of people who are new to Bootcamp. You may know what you can/can't do in terms of carb consumption. But there has been quite a bit of posting about cheating. Even if you are doing this mindfully, please remember that you aren't supposed to be doing this in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, and it makes it really hard for those who are new to low carbing, and who might be struggling.
A bit of sensitivity is called for here.
And finally, when you get on the scales this morning/tomorrow morning, please remember that this is about you and nobody else. It isn't a competition. Some people lose weight much quicker than others.
If you have a lot of weight to lose, chances are that you will lose it quicker than if you are closer to your target. Some people will lose a shedload in week one, but then nothing in week two - whereas others will lose more modestly, but consistently, week after week. The only thing that matters is what is happening to you.
If you haven't lost much, please don't be disappointed. Make sure that you are genuinely following the rules - are you drinking enough water? Are you eating high fat? That one glass or wine, or that small piece of cake - they all add up.
And even if you have genuinely followed the rules - if you haven't seen the scales move by much - have you measured?
We are all different, and rates of loss will be different too. Just think about the food that you have been eating, and consider how this WOE compares with low calorie or low fat diets.
Changing to a low carb way of eating as compared to a low fat or low calorie diet is not an easy transition, and it is to be expected that there will be snags along the way. Hopefully the Bootcamp threads will give you the help and guidance that you need - and I hope that when you get on the scales next, your hard work will be rewarded!
Onwards and downwards
Thanks for keeping us on the straight and narrow so far...or in my case not yet very narrow.....
One more thing I should have said:
Weigh yourself first thing in the morning, naked, and after you have been to the loo
If you weigh yourself later on in the day, all that you are doing is weighing yourself and everything that you have eaten and drunk.
Dammit Dunnit, I wanted to be first!
Just weighed in and added to spreadsheet, 3lbs lost!!!
This is the first time on a diet I've not cheated and I'm really pleased.
My Dh has just weighed in and has lost 10lbs. I am
very slightly jealous but he has pointed out that a) he has more to lose (was well over 17st) and b) he normally drinks loads more than I do and has had none this week.
Morning all, good luck with second week. Marking place.
I've updated the spreasdsheet and have lost nearly 2 pounds, which is less than I was expecting, especially as I have been exercising everyday and been very strict with bootcamp. I think I will up my water-I'm hoping because I had my period last week, its more water retention than anything.
I do feel lighter though, which is good!
first week over and it wasn't so bad, although Dh is quite bemused by my not having wine the dc haven't noticed at all, as I serve them first at the table and they tuck in and dont notice i skip the spuds. just cook less lovely roast potatoes etc as then I am not tempted to have any, and there are no left overs to nibble at.
when does the uber bootcamp start? I am going to do that this time bit nervous about it, but its only 3 days, is that right?
A bit gutted. 1lb off this week but I only gave up diet coke for the last 3 days of that
feels like longer
I haven't cheated on the food. I was having flaxseed muffins at breakfast but was told flax can stall weight loss so haven't had them for 4 days.
I have been drinking a LOT of water over the last few days so kind of hoping that's why the loss isnt more and I will get a whoosh of weight loss in the next couple of weeks. Only 3 weeks until my holiday and I want to get 4.4lb off by then to reach my holiday goal weight. After that I will still have a stone to lose but being realistic about the holiday goal. I do feel slimmer though so that's good
Morning all! <marks place>
Another 1lb off this week, very pleased.
4lbs off hooray. So that's 8lb over 3 weeks & I'm still adjusting. In the last week I learned that I need to eat more fat and add salt.
Thank you for the support and wise words BiWi.
I've lost 1lb.
I was a bit disappointed, but I had two glasses of wine, almonds until I realised they were only for veggies, and possibly not enough water and too much caffeine. I am taking this as good lessons learned and aiming for a perfect week!
Even so - I've had the most delicious week's food, Brie omelettes, roast chicken where I ate all the skin etc and I still lost a pound! Not a bad way of living!
morning all and thanks BIWI for all the support.
well done/good luck everyone for todays weigh in.
I have lost 2lbs which considering I'm half way through totm I am very pleased
OMG!!!! I have just stepped on the scales and lost....8lb!!!!! I know, I know it's probably mostly water but it's certainly motivating!
So lesson for this week is I think I still need to eat more in general, lunchtimes are my biggest issue mainly due to poor planning, but I'm off to the supermarket this morning so will stock up on things to make a few batches of soup I think. Also I need to cut down on the tea. That's my biggest struggle.
Happy weighing losers
I've lost 5lbs which I'm really pleased about. I can't keep up with the thread (just started working again this week- struggling for time) but it really helps having the support and knowing others are doing this! Thank you for the guidance BIWI! Let's hope I can keep it going for another week!
Thanks for the thread BIWI. 4lb off for me today. Really pleased.
Good luck everyone
Oh and I've added my weight to spreadsheet but it's not updated how much I've lost altogether? I wonder of it's because I'm doing this on my phone?
2lb off which I am delighted with. I don't have much to lose and at the start struggled to get my head around eating so much fat - I wasn't convinced it would work for me.
My skin is better than it's ever been too.
Preparation is the key - I have made sure I take lunch to work with me every day and have a fridge full of the right foods.
Sainsburys sell little packs of dry olives which are handy to carry around as snacks (though I've only needed them once).
The same weight but waist emerging!
Oh bother, meant to weigh this morning but i have just remembered and i have already drunk 1 ltr of water and eaten a BAB. So will have to weight tomo.
Oh and the consensus is contact lens weigh less then glasses, just to help shift those extra pounds like
Really pleased to have lost 3lb despite eating a bit of apple crumble on Saturday (felt obliged). Have stuck to it apart from that though and not finding it too hard. Spurring me on to keep going with it. I have also had to tighten the belt on my work trousers by a hole!
Morning all, 5lb off for me :-) will update spreadsheet when I'm on the laptop :-)
No loss for me as BIWI predicted as I'm on my third week, however I have lost 5cm from my waist and 6cm around my tummy this week
Well done everyone
My only, solitary complaint so far is that my hair is too silky! I kind of relied on the thatch effect to give it some volume, so now it's kind of smooth and glossy & sits too close to my head. I'll live
I had a lovely time yesterday predicting my future losses. I allowed for a probably very pessimistic rate of slow down & a few potential stalls. I found this to be useful when I successfully (in the shortish term) did ww years ago. Looking at my calendar and seeing that I was behind where I'd predicted gave me a kick up the bum. Seeing I was ahead gave me a buzz.
Anyway, I calculate that I could have a total of 2st off by Christmas & another 2 1/2 st off by next July. I'm trying to be realistic. If I got to that, I'd be the lightest in adult life and the thought thrills me that I could buy some lovely size 10 jeans on my birthday next year.
I feel so confident and positive that I can do this as I'm just not feeling deprived at all.
<happy sigh> uncommon for me on a rainy Monday.
Yes 3.75lbs off. Very pleased. Went to the cinema last night and just had an americano instead of half a giant popcorn and half a huge Pepsi max and you know what it was fine. I didn't feel deprived and didn't come home on a sugar low with kernels in my cleavage.
Two pounds off - well one really because I gained a pound just before the start of Bootcamp. I've been LCing for 12 weeks though so I won't be losing any water weight at this point. More importantly though - one inch off my waist, I'm going to have to put another hole in my belt.
Charlie - willie cleverly does that bit I think. You just enter your weekly weight.
Well I weighed (after a pee and a poo! - sorry if TMI). 7lbs off! Very very very pleased. I have never lost that in one week before. But I did stick to it completely. No cheats planned or otherwise. No alcohol. Possibly not enough water and def too much tea so that is challenge for this week.
So that is August's damage gone. Now for July's holiday damage!
Those who struggled last week - it does work. But you can't cheat. It is an unforgiving way of eating and the odd glass of wine or piece of cake might not derail you on other diets but definitely will on this. Bootcamp is only two weeks but it is a tough two weeks. Hence the name bootcamp! Plan, plan, plan. It def helps. Check out the recipe thread. Eat enough food. Eat enough fat. Drink the water. And then drink some more water!
I'll get off my soapbox now!
Oh - for those who struggle with lunches - most supermarkets do pots of sandwich fillers - I try to have a pot of egg mayonnaise and a cheese one in the fridge. I find them useful for a quick lunch or breakfast. They are nice spread on slices of ham or beef or turkey and rolled up. I have a lot of salads but vary what goes in. Always a huge pile of leaves, a few chopped cherry toms, chopped cucumber. Then sometime chicken, avocado, chopped grilled peppers in oil from the deli section.. Then I add some Delouis mayonnaise which I add olive oil to and shake well to make a runnier dressing. Or smoked salmon bits or mackerel or tuna with wasabi mayonnaise. Or an old fashioned "Chef's salad" with chopped ham and hard boiled eggs. I also love the little cherry peppers stuffed with ricotta that I know both Sainsburys and M&S do. They are spicy though! I sometimes have three of those with my salad as I find they make it really tasty.
A bit tmi but since I stopped eating flaxseed muffins I haven't been to the loo. I have always had this problem and I was wondering would it be ok to take flaxseed oil capsules or peppermint oil capsules to help me go? I don't want to take them unless I have to but I think I'm getting to a point where I may need to and I don't really want to take laxatives.
Well, I've just added my new weight to the spreadsheet - hope it's worked. Down 3 lbs, so I'm happy with that. Also 1 inch off my waist and bum!
Well done to everyone
Hurray, 4lbs off! Am so happy as I struggled with temptation yesterday. Feel motivated to keep going now. It's been great getting ideas and support here.
well done everyone who's made it to week two!
i haven't lost anything as i have my period, which always makes me stay the same.
Hooray. Managed the first week
Feeling more energetic, way less dull and sluggish (not withstanding the hell that was Sunday morning)
Lost over 3lbs so that's good too, although fitting into a skirt tht was tight last week was even better.
Well done everyone
Just marking my place, off to school now so back later!
Well dione everyone! It's so great to hear your whoops of joy !
Purple - this WOE does mean that there is less 'waste' to be got rid off, IYSWIM, (a piece of cheese will leave nothing whereas a slice of wholemeal bread will leave lots ...) so there are often stories of being 'constipated' when in fact it is only that you don't have so much bulking your bowel out (!) - i went from daily, to about 2-3 times a week . If it really is a problem (ie you are bloated, it's hard to 'go' and you are straining,) then physalis husks (health shops) are often recommended on here - but usually if you are eating (lubricating) fat and drinking loads, you are 'within normal parametres' by only going every few days.
Well done on the weightloss BTW
Have managed to get through week without slipping once (except for 1 glass prosecco to celebrate DD new job). Looks like it paid off. I've definitely toned up as well. I've been combining the WOE with exercise (this is VERY unusual for me!), so every day I do something, be it walking (I'm doing Joanna Hall Walkactive), cycling, zumba, whatever. But the rule is I have to do something everyday.
Ewan thanks for that spinach pie recipe. That looks a winner and would be good cold in a lunch box too.
Auntie Maggie why don't you try tofu for your lunches, if you don't like steak or tuna. You need to buy firm tofu from an Asian supermarket, but if you get the firm variety, you can slice it, dust it in various spices, and fry it till it browns on both sides. Let cool, then put a slice in your lunchbox with some salad veg and a splash of soy sauce or chilli sauce. It's very low carb and tasty. Tofu is not just some weird meat substitute for vegetarians - it's delicious and versatile (am not employed by international tofu marketing agency!!)
Feeling very inspired to keep going.
Thanks captainmummy I don't feel bloated or that I am constipated. I am used to going a couple of times a week so as it is normal I won't worry about it.
Everyone seems to be doing brilliantly
I still can't quite get over the fact that I appear to have lost <whispers> a stone. I got on my scales a few times this morning to check that... I suspect that will lead to a minimal loss next week as I have just got my period, and well, I can't lose that every week, eh...
Thanks for thread and words of wisdom BIWI
I've lost 5llbs this week! Yay!
(NOTE: first week back on Bootcamp and I'm a lardy arse with around 2 stone to shift)
So that means I'm back to where I was at the end of the last Bootcamp (if only I'd kept going...)
Still, a good start and I'm determined to be strict this week – planning meals and trying really hard to drink enough water.
I think the physical craving to eat carbs has now passed (meaning I don't get drawn to that tempting, sugary smell of cakes/pastries) so I wasn't bothered about not having a slab of chocolate cake that DD baked last night). BUT eating when I'm bored or a bit emotional or fed up is a whole other matter... For example, I opened the fridge at around 10.30 last night thinking I could just eat a little something, even though I wasn't hungry... Gave myself a talking to and had a mug of herbal tea instead. What do the rest of you do if you get those sort of non-hungry late night cravings?
3lbs off for me, really pleased. Have also gone through food diary to suss out any carb creep an just to remind myself what delicious food I'm eating. Motivates me when I'm being contrary about not eating bread!
B: egg and ham muffin
L: tuna mayo with cucumber and lettuce
D: leftover beef stew with buttery cabbage mash and cabbage
Happy Monday and here's to a great week.
Well done everyone for losses by the way – and well done to those who have stuck to it even if they've not had a weight loss show up on the scales because it will if you keep going as I know from last BC!
Lost 2lbs - but definitely losing weight from waist line. We're all low carbing - even the cats!
Purple I use Psyllium husks and they do the trick for me
4.5lb off here <does small dance on kitchen table> I am genuinely staggered as I've been low carbing for a year and don't have loads to lose, it just goes to show how much my carbs had crept up and how a strict week can really work even for old-timers.
Well done to all the losers whether it's pounds or inches, off to snarf some scrambled eggs and bacon.
Just weighed and I'm down by 2 pounds which I'm really pleased with. I've been low carbing for a year and a half now, dropping just over 3 stone but the dreaded carb creep has been taking it's toll and I hadn't lost anything for 4 months.
Yay! It's lovely to hear all this! Well done.
Hooray 3lbs off and feeling much less bloated.
I am trying lots of new recipes to keep myself motivated.
Well done everyone
Purple - I think the coconut oil in my coffee sorts me out on that front :-)
Nearly 3lbs loss which I am really pleased about! I don't have a huge amount to lose, so expected to go slower. I can see my shape changing/emerging, which is lovely!
I can't get on the spreadsheet but am 10lb down overall since starting two weeks ago - although 2.8lb up since I last weighed myself on Friday when I ate half a mars bar and had a few glasses of vino on Saturday night.
Have not got properly started yet (and not got a lot to lose) so stayed the same but still encouraged.....
3lb off for me, very happy with that.
Well done everyone!
Have been bad, very bad and it shows - .9lbs on.....
So will start afresh this week and see if I can be good.
You can do it Doradoo I am also a week behind after a horrendous week
no excuses just fact will do boot camp strict for another week when others move onto bootcamp light. <sticks out a handle and hawls Doradoo back onto the wagon>
7lbs off this week.
Just to echo what BIWI and Cider have already put so well...
If you are a carby twat, you will not lose the weight!
Once you are through your two weeks of strict bootcamp and your body has adjusted, the occasional treat probably won't cause too much damage to your weightloss, but during the first couple of weeks you need to reset your body and tastes. If you eat processed crap, you are putting yourself back to square one. Honestly, it isn't worth it.
Why would you make all this effort and then sabotage yourself?? you've got the rest of your life to eat cake/mars bars/minstrels/chips/pizza (some of the things I can recall listed in confession on the week 1 thread! ), this is just two weeks out of your life, and then you're onto bootcamp light where you can have nuts, berries, wine etc. believe me, after two weeks, those strawberries and clotted cream will taste as sweet as the ambrosia of heaven.
Onwards and downwards, Campers!
for the losers and a big encouraging bootcamp hug for those of you struggling - it is worth the effort!
Hi All. Lost 1 lb but not to worry it is my time of the month. Looking foward to next week. Should show a good weight loss.
Am 3lbs down. Very grateful as had off piste meals last Tuesday and Wednesday. At least this has allowed me 4 days of strict low carbing before weigh in today. But aware I probably would have lost a pound or 2 more if I had stuck to it all week. However for the first time am back at my lowest weight since the last bootcamp at start of July.
So thanks BIWI for doing this and newbies, don't cheat if you can help it, it isn't worth it!
I gave in to emotional eating last night. Having had a "good" day, I had 2 glasses of red wine followed by a small portion of plum pie & custard, and a bar of chocolate.
It was emotional eating, nothing more and nothing less. I must try and be a bit more forearmed against this type of thing! Back on the wagon today however.....
I deserve BIWI's stick for few glassess of wiine over the weekend.. But I was good with food all week and lost amazing 5.6 lbs last week.
Nigellasguest I hope you are ok...
Well done to all losers!
Another 2pounds gone despite saturday being a fast day (religious) which ended with a carby thing. Only 3 more pounds to go and I'm at my goal
and into the choccy
Onwards and upwards today, IBO!
And wow what an amazing loss you have had - 5.6 lbs!
I just posted on the week 1 thread, so won't do another big post, but have basically been a carby twat and put 2lb on the i really need to cut my association with emotions and over eating!
Please could someone put me on the spreadsheet. I am 11 st 10 lb on
Thanks NigellasGuest - It easy to lose weight on the first week. I will be very happy to lose 1 or at least 0.5 lb next week
best of luck to you !!
Very wise words BIWI.
I have lost 3.6lbs this week and I'm pleased with that. I have been low carbing since the new year but with more and more carb creep towards then end of the summer but it hasn't really affected my weight much. So I'm back on the bootcamp properly (I really really missed my couple of glasses of wine on a sat eve tho'!)
I'm hoping to get to 2 stone off at the start next week (so close but so far...). I feel so much slimmer I put on a skirt this morning and it was massive (struggled to get in it last year) so I hit my 'too small' drawer... I put one of my old old skirts on and it was a bit on the big side .
Stick with it, it's good good feeling.
Firstly - Sorry BIWI for posting about cheating or rather failing over the last few days, I take your point about it being unhelpful to others.
Thank you all so much for all of your suggestions for my bowel issues smile I am making notes and am going to try them all! It's now getting close to a week again since going to the loo......
daisy - the GP gives me senna, fybogel, and movicol (sp?) The fybogel makes me swell up and I find it sickly, movicol is vicious! And lactulose is loaded with sugar/sweeteners so I struggle to take it! Sorry to seem ungrateful, I'm not! Thank you daisy xxx
Crabby - thank you too
So, how much vit C do I need to take, does anyone know, gms or mls wise? Either? I drink at least 2.5 ltr every day. Thank you for your help xxx
OK - I've not lost weight, I've added 3lbs but I think it's waste [bush]
Dropped 4" from my waist, Down 1 size to a 10 at the bottom.
Down 2 sizes to a 12 on top.
Dropped 2" from my back.
Dropped 2 " from my hips.
Well done to those who have lost weight or inches, KEEP GOING EVERYONE! xxx
Shall we get some t-shirts made?
"I am a carby twat"
Really interesting piece here about fruit and fruit consumption - especially if you are a diabetic - some evidence that fruit can actually be helpful if you are a type 2 diabetic.
It's worth reading this all the way through. At the end, there's a table showing the fructose content of various fruits, which is really interesting.
Loving "I'm a Carby Twat" t shirts idea
what happens after bootcamp? Where do we go?
I'm a bit jealous of all you big losers! I have lost a pound, but I'm feeling slimmer (wish I'd measured). Also I seem to have got over the carb flu finally - woke up feeling much better this morning.
B: a whole avocado with olive oil dressing, a tomato, cup of chai (no milk)
L: curried cauliflower soup, tuna salad with mayo
D: Black Farmer sausages with broccoli
Does anyone else's dp/dh think they are a faddy weirdo for attempting this? Mine has no comprehension at all of struggling to lose weight or why anyone would need to do anything other than 'eat a bit less, exercise a bit more'.
"My name is .... and I'm a carby twat"!
How about a logo of bag of chips? Mars Bar?
sorry. i should have read the OP properly. Didn't mean to cause any offence by writing about my failure. Just wanted to hold myself accountable so I can turn it around.
BIWI ... I'll take that stick and beat myself I think!!
twistyfeet - when Bootcamp ends, we generally keep one chat thread going for as long as we want to.
Glad you're feeling better, holmes!
I echo what crabbysmallbottom said. You really need to stick to this at the start. I lost 7 pounds in the first few weeks of the last bootcamp. I then had one day way off piste. It was a special occasion. I put 7lbs back on overnight. It came off again over the next week or so but that was a bit of a shock. After doing this for several months an away does not have the same effect. The difference now is I only eat carbs that are really worth it. If you have just started do keep at it. It definitely works and it gets easier.
Googoogoggles I have stone in olives (£1 jar from Tesco - nothing fancy) for evening snacking. There's no way you can eat loads of them quickly because of the stones so you just eat what you need.
I've lost about 2lbs which is pretty good, 6lbs in 2 weeks. Was hoping for a bit more but c'est la vie! I'm not going to panic about it, or wallow and allow it to throw me off track.
Haven't cheated <proud> other than 2 or three coffees with milk instead of cream.
I did my 12 hour drive to DS's uni and back yesterday - and I did not eat a single sweet thing!!! And I am by nature a sugary twat!!!! I have lost 3lbs since Monday and probably more but I suffer from the same affliction as Mouseface and haven't been for a week! Anyone got a stick of dynamite?
Well done everyone
Well done those who've lost!
I've not weighed myself as its totm & i usually get very bloated but my jeans are falling down so I've done somat right!
Hello, can some lovely person update me to 174 - better than I deserve after a disastrous weekend
So far I am holding strong against emotional eating. Not sure quite how, but I have. Going to have a quick scrambled eggs before the school run as I feel really hungry. Not sure if real hunger or quite what but I have made the mistake of not eating when hungry and that way disaster lies.
Yeah, down 8.8 lb here, just celebrated with some whipped cream on almond and flax cake. There were chocolates at work today and I was most useful in passing them round.
My motto I want to be thinner than I want chocolate.
are olives allowed on Bootcamp?
5 and 3/4 pounds off
NewStart - well done on avoiding emotional eating. It's hard! I managed to gain half a stone over August through emotional eating and drinking. Need to find an alternative when faced with crap again.
Twisty feet - yes!
None off for me as I am just not sticking to it
1.6 off here. Not hugely impressive compared with the excellent losses most others have had but I'm happy enough. I think being veggie makes it harder to keep the carbs low. Feeling hugely bloated today, which is odd and I think adversely affected my weigh in.
I have been feeling not wholly committed to the plan. I love not feeling hungry but I'm finding it tough going not being able to just say 'fuck it, it's pasta tonight'. But I realised today it's only 10 weeks. Well, 9 now. And I can manage that.
Off to Bath tomorrow for the night with 2 friends. First night ever away from the children - they're 8 & 6! I shall do my very best to stay on plan.
Afternoon all. Marking place.
Doing something with chicken tonight, not sure what. Did I read something recently about parmesan chicken soaked in buttermilk? And can anyone inspire me what to do with it? I have spinach, aubergine, peppers, mushrooms and a turnip.
Possibly some sort of parmagiana affair? Have got mozzarella balls in the fridge and any amount of cheese.
I have not weighed today as I am eating sensibly and mindfully at the moment then starting properly when we get back from holiday in 2 weeks. Don't want to drop off the spreadsheet though so I am entering myself as 100 each week until then. Is that ok?
Ooh, just in case that sounds a bit wishy-washy, can I just tell you that I bought a top from Evans and had to get not just one size below my normal, but TWO!
Just had an amazing tea of slow cookered garlic chicken. Yum. Never tried just doing meat in the slow cooker before. Normally just do stews. Had it with green beans.
Thanks for tip re olives with stones stuntnun - will have to try that! I did some cheese crisps with cheddar a couple of nights ago for a snack but they were awful – way too greasy. Maybe I didn't leave them in long enough?
Am just frying up some chicken strips in loads of butter for dinner and have made a coleslaw (mostly cabbage with 1/4 shallot a tiny bit of grated carrot) – who knew I could get so excited about the prospect of a bit of chicken and coleslaw but there you go, I am.
First day feeling like I had more energy today –and a much brighter mood. (Don't think I'll ever have sleek and shiny hair again though – too many years of hiding the grey bits!)
Kept refilling a 750 ml bottle of water today with the aim of drinking x4 minimum a day. (It's got one of those squeezy tops which DOES help, strangely, as someone has already reported)
Black get back up on the wagon _ you pulled me up a few times last BC (hv name-changed)
Keep going everyone!
It's taken me so long to type this (keep tending said chicken), forgive me if I'm ignoring last few posts!
I forgot to weigh this morning, or should I say it was a very unorganised dash out of the house to work and school etc. I shall be updating in the morning, fingers crossed evil Mother Nature has pissed off completely
Had a good day today, although haven't drunk much water due to a very busy day at work.
B: egg mayo with sausage
L: cold chicken with salad with HM dressing
D: curry made with left over roast pork with swede and spinach
A: 2 thin slices cold grilled bacon, 1 mini pepperami
Iblame and Mouse I think it's absolutely fine to say when you're finding things difficult and when you've fallen off the wagon - that way we can
beat you with the big stick support you and haul you back aboard.
I think what BIWI maybe meant was for those of us who've been doing low carb for quite a while, this isn't the time to post about going off-piste and eating stuff that isn't allowed on bootcamp - after you've been doing it a while you get a good idea of what you can and can't have without causing a stall/gain, but for the people who are just starting now/restarting after a long gap, it's really important not to cheat at all in these early days. It's pretty hard to stick to bootcamp for those two weeks, and thinking that you can go a bit off-road and still lose weight is going to end in frustration and disappointment for most people.
Correct me if I'm wrong BIWI!
<waves to Rupret>
B - crustless ham & quiche (slither of) HB egg, low carb sausage, with mayo.
L - chicken and mayo salad with grated cheddar on top.
D - ? not sure yet, I'm not hungry, I did buy some frozen broccoli, peas and sweetcorn, so may fry them off in some butter and have some chicken wrapped in bacon with a cream and garlic sauce.......
It's one of those nights when I need someone to cook for me and make me it eat......
Hope everyone's doing okay? xxx
Oh and thank you BIWI - just for being you xxx
Pretty amazing 1 stone off Roobot! respect
Had another good non diet coke day so that's 4 days now. I've almost stopped craving it.
forgot to say
B. 2 egg scrambled egg with a dollop of greek yogurt
D Made a mess of fried mushrooms, cabbage and sardines as couldnt think of anything to eat. Fried in butter.
Having stalled on maintenance lo-carb its coming off again now I've gone back to Bootcamp. 0.6 kg since I asked BIWI's advice last wed (?)
Beryl 'twas me that posted the turkey marinaded in buttermilk, coated with Parmesan 'breadcrumbs' and fried in butter. It was delish. DH was chided about buying turkey but in his defence it was very cheap.
I fell off the wagon bigstyle today after a disastrous day that I'm still not sure how I'm going to get through the rest of. At least I have six days before my next weighing so I'll drink lots of water and clamber back on the wagon.
Some amazing losses here and very well done too timid for moving down the clothes sizes - great when that happens. I really want this to happen to me soon as have been same size for ages - first it was tight, then ok, now loose. Fingers crossed next week or the week after will be a week of putting falling down loose jeans to the back of a drawer and bringing out some tight ones I have only wore once in 2010, after losing weight and then getting ill, dropping my weight temporarily for an all too brief month!
B: 2 poached eggs mixed in a cup with butter, salt & pepper.
L: None, had to come home at lunchtime to fix the toilet that my cleaner had inexplicably broken (pretty proud of my plumbing skills)
D: It started off as chicken soaked in buttermilk, to be coated with parmesan and fried, but it was too faffy, so I added chopped fresh parsley and threw the remainder of the chicken, buttermilk and parmesan into the pan en masse, fried it off, then added half a rather elderly jar of tomato type stuff. Added the (also elderly) mozzarella balls to melt over it, and served on a bed of homegrown rocket and basil. It turned out rather well considering.
BIWI thanks for putting the boot into bootcamp. We all need it. I have a formal to go to in precisely 12 days and haven't a clue what I am going to wear.
StuntNun X post. Thanks for the inspiration
may i suggest clothes beryl?
ds prevent me from snacking as we have been sorting his stuff out. I am now too tired to be bothered to pick and am going to collapse into bed for an early night. Sleep for me is key to not giving into emotional eating. Less I sleep harder it is to resist.
B: bacon, mushrooms and fried eggs
L: tuna and cheese melt over cauliflower
T: "Mince" and cheese (mince had mushrooms and leeks added)
s: scrambled eggs
I am going to ignore the fact it was dairy heavy and go with the sticking to plan. Aiming to include more veg tomo.
Checking in to say how brilliant it is to see done bug weight losses! Well done
Those who haven't dont despair - remember everyone whooshes at different times. I would take a look though and make sure you haven't cheated somewhere or hidden carbs in some packet foods.
I am weighing in on wed and would be happy with 1lb off.
Missed breakfast as bounced from meeting to meeting even though I had my Greek yogurt with me.
L cheese and mushroom omelette
D salmon, broccoli and feta bake out of the IPD cookbook which is yum And the dc eat it too
Thanks crabby I am well and try back on the wagon,& even more determined to crack on this week!
B- Greek Yogurt
L-Thai Red Curry Kebabs & 2 pieces of vegetable frittata
D-Cheese and Chorizo stuffed chicken breast, with 2 flat mushrooms.
Also just had one Hotel Chocolat 90% dark chocolate baton.
lol at 'clothes' NSNS my dad always used to say that...
I have lost 3.5 lbs this week, which is my best loss since my first week, back in July. I have made more of an effort to stick to the bootcamp rules and upped my water intake as I hadn't really bothered with it before. I guess it really does do something! (proffers wrist for slapping)
Can't really decide what my goal weight is though, would like not to have a wodge of tummy fat mostly but no idea if this is achievable now I'm not 19 and mostly existing on cigarettes...
I started Bootcamp a week earlier than everyone else and have lost 7lbs!!
No weightloss this week but that is ok. The food I am eating is so delicious that I am motivated to carry on!
I am 177lbs today. (Started in Jan at 194lbs!!)
B....ff yoghurt, celery, boursin
L....ham salad with mashed swede
D....chilli with amazing cauliflower rice
Parmesan shortbread with cold butter. Mmmmmmmmm!!
Well done losers!
Keep the faith!!
The cake, wine, carbs and choc will not make you feel better....you just sabotage your hard work......keep going!
Tea tonight, those lamb bite balls from the recipe thread, cream & harrissa sauce, fried courgette ribbons with leek, butter, salt. Bloody lovely.
Thanks, Crabby - you have it exactly right!
I know that Bootcamp is hard. And I also know that low carbing anyway can prove to be a challenge. The world, sadly, isn't really set up for us low carbers! And there are always going to be times and occasions when we will end up eating far more carbs than we should do/we feel comfortable with.
Last night, for me, is a very good case in point. I went to have dinner with an old friend, who had arranged for some other (mutual) friends to join us, as a surprise - which was lovely. But the restaurant that they had booked was a Chinese, and the food was communal/sharing - so even though my individual choices were as low carb as I could make them, I ended up having to share with them, and eat stuff I wouldn't normally have ordered. In that situation, the only thing to do is to accept it, and enjoy it.
But what my OP was about was to make everyone who is new to low carbing aware of the reason why it's so important to stick to it in the first two weeks.
And there is a big difference between being in a situation where you can't avoid carbs and a situation where you are choosing to eat carbs. Emotional eating and PMT are all difficult to deal with, but you do have to learn to do it. No-one else can do it for you, sadly.
caughtintheact - wodge of tummy fat
A few years ago my mum had leukaemia and lost so much weight I could see every single one of her vertebrae including her tail bone. She still had a roll of fat on her tummy. So I'm afraid you might have to just accept that one!
(My mum's fine now - made a full recovery)
I've been good <avoids stick>
B - scrambled egg and fried mushrooms
L - broccoli and stilton soup
D - cod (cooked in butter), ratatouille, salad
S - greek yogurt; also some cheese
Timidviper - going down in clothes sizes is fab! Well done.
And well done on losses everyone else.
Good day here. Had breakfast late as went for run first then got soaked on way back and got straight into shower. Had egg mayo and a cold sausage. Late lunch of big salad with chicken. Dinner was meatballs and tomato sauce on fried courgette strips. Oh- snack of roast chicken at 5. Lots of water. Not sure how many glasses though - need to start checking them off. 3 cups of tea.
Thanks Lily Am pretty chuffed myself! Once I shake this cold I am dying to get to the gym! Everyone seems to be doing so well!
Made lush chilli burgers tonight. Am feeling stuffed!
Parmesan shortbread sounds delicious ruprekt, is it a special recipe?
Loving reading all the losses, so inspiring.
Disappointed to only lose a pound and finding boot camp quite difficult. Did have a couple of slip ups but can honestly say I tried really really hard so has hoped for more of a loss on the scales. Oh well, have definitely lost inches and clothes feel looses so not all bad. Is coffee with milk not allowed? Coffee with cream makes me gag and I'm not even thinking about the whole coffee with butter scenario on here <gulps hard>
5K run for me this morning, and session at the gym with my trainer tomorrow, so hopefully will undo the worst of yesterday!
Went out for lunch with DH today (he had the day off) and had cheeseburger, with no bun and no fries, but extra salad.
Dinner tonight was roast chicken, leeks panfried in butter, with chilli and cream, and red cabbage braised in butter with shallots and raspberry vinegar. And cheese and flaxseed crackers, made as a gift for me by the lovely Willie!
glad your mum has recovered, toomuchicecream. What a horrible thing to go through. Puts my vanity into perspective!
demented - but at least you are down rather than having gained! It isn't easy, and it takes a bit of time to get used to it. Coffee with milk isn't great, although it obviously depends on how many you have during the day.
I swam for an hour this morning, which was great as I am allegedly a strong swimmer, but hadn't been for 6 weeks as over the hols I was either at work or looking after the children. Today was the first day I had all 3 at school all day. Wow. Got so much done. Am expecting not to be able to move tomorrow though.
Supper here was leftover kale and roasted celeriac, fried into a sort of hash with a friend egg and salad. It was fab. Better even than with the roast the day before. Gosh i love food.
It's my birthday tomorrow - so far no one has mentioned cake and I am fortunately at work then taking kids to piano lesson so I might be able to escape it. There are however three fairy cakes left over from today's bake session so if the kids want to sing happy birthday, I'll pop a candle in and they can eat one each. I'll eat a babybel to keep them company.
Sleep well everyone and try not to get up too often to wee!
Too much, glad your mum has recovered.
Demented, I can't bear coffee with cream either. The texture is too slippery, even for a fat fiend like me. I have one cup of coffee with milk a day and rest of the time (black or herbal) tea. It's a bummer I know. DOn't be too down about your pound. If you stick with it, you will lose the weight. I find my loss to be slow and steady (with lots of weeks of STS for apparently no reason).
Chin up lovely
Managed to get another 2kg (4 pounds?) off this week. There is definately a waist appearing, although its a bit saggy at present. I feel I have so much more energy and don't feel stiff. I am delighted and am not hungry at all. Started last week and lost 4kg last week.
This is good. Nearly down to my fullypregnant weight now!
Good luck to us all...
I have lost 8lbs in three weeks on this WOE. But I have had times where my weight has gone up. I am recording it each day on an app and it does help to be able to see the whole downward graph.
Sorry but I don't like reading about people slip ups either, its demotivating. But together we can do this! Come on losers, heads down for another week.
Well done all the losers! Keep at it everyone, it's so worth it!
Purple big well done you for kicking your diet coke habit.
L - boursin and tomatoes
S - few mouthfuls leftover roast, couple mouthfuls egg mayonnaise
D - chicken, mushrooms and leeks in a creamy cheesy sauce with courgette 'pasta'.
Loads of water, 2 teas
It's great to read the success stories.
I'm feeling really positive having lost 4 pounds!
Also have a little halo as I finally graduated yesterday (ten years after finishing my Diploma) and I didn't have a drink to celebrate
I do however have a funeral to attend on Friday and I think I will have a drink or two then. The friend was a big drinker and it would feel a bit disrespectful not to. My plan is to make sure I drink loads of water and really keep the carbs really low all week.
Keeping going- dh wanted to open some champagne last night but I said no and asked him to wait til next week.
I went to bed early too, as I wanted some and knew as soon as I brushed my teeth and got into bed I wouldn't eat/ drink anything apart from water, so at least I'm getting some early nights
Well done all the losers
Lavenderhoney I've been going to bed early all week. I'm feeling better for it. I think it helping with the night time craving which I suspect are not hunger but tiredness.
Made flapjacks with DS today did not even lick the bowl. brimming with pride at myself and feeling great about really being on right path.
Woo hoo! Woke up feeling lighter this morning and lo and behold - a further 2 pounds if since yesterday! I think cutting down the dairy must have made a difference. I can really see a difference in the mirror too.
Lovely meal last night of pork loin steaks fried in butter with roasted curried cauliflower and creamy leeks.
Managed to resist a chocolate chip cookie later on by having a glass of water instead
shame about earlier in the day
Happy birthday Sybil!. Great babybel plan.
I am mysteriously 2lb heavier than yesterday but I've decided not to sweat the small stuff
unless its a Monday
Prettybird! Bad girl! No choc chip cookies on bootcamp!
Holmess - I think dairy affects me too. Well done on that loss!
Crabby - your dinner last night sounds yummy. Must remember that. Don't suppose you would post the recipe? I am not an instinctive cook and need instructions!
Just had egg mayo for breakfast. Two cups of tea. Won't have any more today. I love one after lunch but will have lemon and ginger instead.
Not sure about lunch yet but dinner will be lamb steak I think. It will be early as have a PTA meeting at 6 (daft time). I have a bag of spinach leaves so will have that as a salad with the lamb and fry some shallots and half a red pepper and a couple of cherry toms and make a creamy Harissa sauce to put on top.
Have a good day everyone. Drink the water. Stay away from the crap. It's NOT worth it!
Oh. Happy Birthday Sybil!
After recording my 2lb loss yesterday, and sticking to the rules throughout, today I am bloated and 1lb heavier than yesterday. I can't work out how that has happened!
It feels like wheat or wine belly, but I haven't touched either. The only thing I can think it might be is some Cheddar cheese I had on Sunday - probably about 4oz. Last week I only had full fat Philly and lost weight.
I'll try to do some cardio exercise tonight and see if that helps.
I also feel a tad hormonal today (52 and going through menopause), so that may be linked.
Boiled eggs for breakfast , loads of water.
Off to the gym
Cider did you know our very own Crabby is a celebrity? She has a low carb food blog!
In my defence, I had manned a cake stall on Sunday afternoon and not touched a single thing!
Unfortunately there were lots of chocolate chip cookies left over
StuntNun - I did know that but had forgotten! Thanks for reminder and link.
Prettybird - think I would rather have had the cake!
Torro - don't worry about it. Your body does naturally fluctuate. If you're going to weigh daily, you will have to accept that.
If you're feeling bloated, it's worth trying to drink a bit more water to see if that helps.
But otherwise - onwards and downwards!
just a quick post from work, where the british heart foundation were in doing quick health checks. i got my cholesterol, blood sugar and blood pressure done
after 18 months of low carb and (very) high fat, all results were well within normal. obviously this is a sample of one and your mileage may vary , but hopefully this is at least a little reassuring to people still thinking at the back of their mind 'but what about the cholesterol!'
Hi all, am madly behind with everything in life at the moment, so just dashing in to say 3lbs off after week one (I'm almost a year doing LC but had a rather off plan few weeks in the summer hols)
B one fried egg with a few small tomatoes
L spring greens, 2 slices bacon, mushrooms all fried in butter and the bacon fat, topped with half an avocado. Yum.
D beef stew with lots of veg
S duck pâté on cucumber slices
As the weather gets chillier, I have starting drinking water that is half from the tap and half cooled boiled water from the kettle. I find this easier than freezing cold, esp first thing in the morning. I get easily get 3 big mugs of tepid water down while I
stare out the window get going in the morning, more than I could drink if it was cold. I also make sure I drink a glass with every cup of (decaff) coffee I have. And I also drink in tandem with the dog! He's pretty self regulating and is a good reminder, so if he trots off to his bowl to have a big drink after a walk or play, then I trot off to the kitchen and grab another mug full!
Great news on the cholesterol willie.
Catch up on thread later, have a good y'all.
Just bought size 12 trousers for the first time in years! Over the moon! Sorry... Bit random as I don't post often, but wanted to share!
I know everyone loses at their own rate but 1 lb? Grrr. I haven't even cheated ffs. Well ten peanuts on Saturday. Literally.
Ah well I look and feel a bit better I 'spose <grumpy>.
3lb off for me too which I'm pleased about as I had a couple of bad days (tea at claridges, had to have champagne and little cakes and sandwiches!).
I had underestimated the carbs in cabbage and tomatoes so will be cutting down on those this week - I found some ketostix in my cupboard just to keep me on the straight and narrow.
3lb off my lowest weight then another 8 to go to ideal weight!
For those frustrated at lack of weight loss, keep at it. I have found that I lose some, then put on a couple of pounds overnight, stay at that for three or four days, then lose a pound a day for the next three or four days. Then it starts again with another gain. This has happened three times. But overall I am eight pounds down from where I started. Think of the big picture, we are in it for the long haul, it will happen, and we are healthier too (thats my little mantra after scales torture!)
I had another emotionally bad time last night BUT did not give in to any emotional eating. Still on the wagon and proud!!
Thanks Stunt! I haven't put anything up for ages; haven't had the time really. I did take some pics the other day so must get on with it and draft a post.
Cider make your courgette pasta like this and preferably leave it to dry out on kitchen towel for a while (less soggy when you cook it, that way).
Slice some leeks (I used two for two people) and dice some mushrooms. Fry them gently on a low heat for about half an hour, stirring from time to time to stop them sticking, this lets all the moisture evaporate off and leaves them lovely and soft. I'd usually use butter with a smidgen of olive oil to fry them, but yesterday I used some of the chicken fat I'd reserved from the roast. Add plenty of freshly ground black pepper. towards the end of the cooking time I added a clove of chopped garlic, some rosemary and thyme and the leftover roast chicken. When it's all ready, add a generous dollop of creme fraiche (or slosh of double cream) and a generous dollop of cream cheese. I added in some grated gruyere cheese, but you could use whatever you've got (or indeed none at all!). Blue cheese would be nice with it.
Fry your courgette ribbons in butter on quite a high heat - they only need a couple of minutes as you want them to retain a bit of 'bite' and not go soggy.
Happy Birthday Sybil!!!
janmoomoo i have that little 'bounce' before the loss settles too
Can we really eat pork scratchings? I ate a packet last night and it was heaven
Happy birthday sybil!
Well done Nigella - it's important to recognise your triggers.
oops Happy Birthday sybil!!!
thanks Captain - I'm trying to be mindful!
2lb off! wheee!
Went to the gym for the first time in weeks today - it felt really good to feel my muscles working again although I did feel a bit sick by the end... Must remember to ease back into exercise in future
I'm walking 4 miles a day now as well as the gym so hopefully that's helping too. 6 weeks until the wedding and 6lb to go...
Can someone speak to HQ about the giant Cadbury Pebbles advertising on the home page. FFS, at least until Bootcamp is over!
Happy Birthday Sybil!
Good to see so many losses here. Unfortunately my scales aren't playing the game and despite sticking to the rules I've seen a small gain this week. Hoping it will shift next week!!
Hope everyone is having a good day – especially Sybil on her birthday
Well done to everyone with losses/smaller sized clothes (I am really hoping to get into some size 12 jeans that have been languishing in a drawer by the end of this bootcamp!)
B: BAB in local cafe (said no to hash brown, sausage and beans so felt good about that though did have a large (black) Americano and am steeling myself to do something about my coffee addiction
L: left over chicken and home-made coleslaw
D: may be lamb chops with buttered greens OR may try something Crabby's has suggested with veg...
MsInga Yes, pork scratchings are def allowed (not keen on them myself)
Bullet 6lbs in 6 weeks – Yes, you can do it!
happy birthday sybil!
question for starrys starry - how did you get on with your granola? I know we're not allowed yet but looking forward to some crunch in my yoghurt!
I did the bootcamp for the summer and lost weight but found that I was focusing too much on the numbers on the scale so although I'll be joining you all doing the bootcamp and staying on the threads for tips and such I won't be adding myself to the spreadsheet as I'd rather weigh myself every few weeks as it just suits me better.
Just wanted to say thanks to BIWI. Your advice on the last bootcamp was brill and I have since bought Dr Briffa's book as well which is also really helpful. This way of eating is a lot easier to follow than a diet and it really does work if you stick to it. Thanks for running it again BIWI
Ok, so I bought flaxseeds. What do I do with them again? Can I have them as a snack?
Happy birthday sybil.
Horrible day timing wise. only just grabbing some lunch. slipped but only into bootcamp light territory as a means to 1. get something in me post training/at lunch at lunchtime and 2. a source of salt. Just going to grab something resembling proper food as out at tea time in another meeting <sigh> Not sure my meals know whether they are coming or going atm but trying to eat at meal times and trying hard to stick to 3 meals a day. No issues wrt emotional eating and actually feeling ok. Weigh in this morning treated me far kinder then I deserved.
For those struggling with emotional eating. it is worth sorting and not ignoring. When you find ways to avoid and to deal with it in a way not through food then you will feel so much better and lighter about it. Stress will still happen but you don't have the additional guilt/self loathing for being weak etc. It isn't easy, no one will tell you it is. But it is worth it in the long run.
needs to continue to practise what she preaches
My weight bounces up and down like that as well Jan, it is definitely not linear weight loss. If people feel compelled to weigh themselves daily then I recommend focussing on the Monday weigh in as being the weight that counts, anything else is for information only.
I've been eating a lot of courgettes on this WOE and my fave way to cook them is to cut them into wedges: four for a normal size courgette, six for a big courgette. They're much easier to turn if you're frying them and they don't go as watery as sliced courgettes. If you do slice them then leaving them overnight in the fridge seems to allow them to dry out enough so they don't get waterlogged when cooked.
Great news on size 12's Charlie
Happy Birthday Sybil
Home made pork scratchings are amazing
Had a good day today:
Brunch - BAB
Dinner - chicken cooked with garlic and chilli and finished off with double cream, served with swede chips
Please, please, please can some kind person update me to 174. Just can't open it on my iPad
My tip for courgette tagliatelle is to cut the courgette in half lengthways and then try to scoop out as much of the wee watery seed bits as you can (I scrape a teaspoon along those bits I can see), before using the peeler/mandoline to make the tagliatelle strips. I haven't tried drying it - will do so next time.
Just realised that since I've been low-carbing (two weeks) my concentration span seems to have doubled.
For the past month I've had trouble concentrating on my driving lessons, but yesterdays was actually fantastic. I didn't have trouble remembering whatever jargon he was warbling at me, I could focus, I didn't stress
too much about little mistakes.
The only change I've made really is the food I eat, could it really have this big an effect?
Just wondering if it's just all starting to come together or if it really could be the low carbing!
People do report that it makes them feel sharper, Bronx, so yes it could be!
Really? It made my brain extremely sluggish for a whole week. Better now, but certainly no sharper than usual. Attempted a run yesterday and it was noticeably harder - legs like lead. Maybe I am not yet converting fat to energy very efficiently.
Marking my place for catching up later. I missed the first week as I've been on holiday. Will be making soup later for tomorrow's lunch - can't wait to be on the low carb wagon
Today is a prime example of planning your meals.
I took Greek yoghurt with me but due to meetings did t get chance to even put it in the fridge never mind eating it do had to chuck it out.
The only vaguely low carb menu in canteen at work was leek and potato soup so had to eat that and leave the lumps of potato.
Had cheese and cucumber when I got in and not really wanting a meal but DH has made chilli and courgette ribbons.
The perils LC friends, the perils.
I normally have soup in freezer for short notice lunch and always salad stuff but not this morning!!
Today I was, and I say so myself, a little bit fab. I am a self confessed chocoholic, can easily eat 3 bars without thinking and can become very very greedy with it. So today we had work cakes and goodies. Before lc I would have seen this as an opportunity to sneak past as many times as I could get away with, probably eating loads as there was loads to be eaten.
Today, nada, nothing, I didnt even WANT any. I ate my chicken, I chomped on my cucumber and I sloshed my water. With no desire to cheat at all.
This is unheard of. Even DH is gobsmacked
just recording what I had today:-
B - third of an avocado, 1 stick celery, brie type cheese(LC)
L finger of coconut oil (just bought the jar and had to try it), 6 thin slices ham, most of a bag of mixed leaf salad, about 20 pine nuts tiny kernel things
T - finally realised that I am ignoring the kids while I eat like king, so did a fab stir fry chicken, peppers, beansprouts, leek, broccoli ends, and chucked in tin of cocnut milk at the end. Plus lots of spices, but it was still a bit bland. The kids had theirs with rice. Feel slightly less guilty....
1 cup of tea so far, but may need to treat myself to another later.
And walked halfway to work and halfway back -people keep stopping to offer me lifts, and I usually refuse, but the wind was so strong I was owrried that I would be hit by a falling tree.
Just watching bake off and it all looks so lovely. Must change channels.
I decides to count my carbs today, more out of curiosity than anything and have totalled 35g.
I actually think its a good idea to do once in a while because its helped me to understand what sort of quantities to use. Especially 'store cupboard' type ingredients like garlic and Worcester sauce.
Bullet -what did you eat?
PMmummy - fab!
Felt totally and utterly shit today. Tried a jog last night and just couldn't force my'legs to move. Today had awful headache, dizzy, felt really ill. So have had cheese and crackers tonight.
Think will move from boot camp to boot camp light. Have generally been feeling better and losing inches, but no way could sit drinking water and eating hard boiled eggs tonight. Needed more.
This is going to be hard in this cold weather when I crave a hot breakfast like bagels or bacon rolls. I don't have time for breakfast before I leave for work, and sitting at my desk with a bowl of yoghurt is horrible in cold weather. Any ideas?
captainmummy I had bulletproof coffee, mackerel pate and cucumber, coffee with cream, yogurt, protein shake, 2 babybels and homemade meatballs in tomato sauce with French beans.
Just checked my carbs to see where I'm at: 29g for the day.
20g of which came from milk!
tbf, it was a hot chocolate but I was checking the carbs on the cocoa powder, not the milk.
Most of my food today has been dairy (cheese heavy).
L...chilli with cauli rice, coleslaw
D...lamb steaks, cauli rice and broccoli
You really have to knock that on the head. Most of your carbs should be coming from veg and salad!
It still amazes me how long I can stay full for, with this WOE. I'm having lunch at work at 12, going straight to Uni from work, doing three hours, coming home at 10pm and I'm not hungry.
Should I be eating something anyway?
In my wisdom, back in August and pre-Bootcamp, I instigated a Bake Off watching party at my house. Friends are coming round every week to watch the programme and eat the cakes they've brought with them (to tie in with the programme of course so we made tray bakes this evening). Last week there were only 2 of us so although I hadn't baked, I couldn't avoid having a slice of my friend's Bakewell Tart.
Tonight I kept thinking of all of you who've been turning down birthday cake. I managed to make a tray bake and only eat a few crumbs, and then not eat any cake all evening. Did have two cups of tea but NO CAKE!!
I know BIWI! Would you believe it was an accident?
It was a courgette gratin that was an accidental cheese fest. Plus the hot chocolate which I didn't realise would be so carb heavy until I put it into MFP
I'll be a good girl tomorrow!
That's some willpower you've got icecream! Tray bakes and bake off? Good luck
Totally agree about the staying full forever phenomena. It's amazing. Since you're supposed to eat in the morning, even if not hungry, I'd say eating something after 10hrs of nothing would probably be a good idea.
Thanks starry i like tofu but never managed to cook it right...
I've lost 2lbs... Ok with that but am feeling shit about myself generally... I've come off the pill and a citalopram recently so thats not helping...
Thank you all for your suggestions/help - I need to sort out my fridge/freezer the next time I'm home ...
Well done on all your losses - keep up the good work
Demented, could you make a pot of thick soup and take it to work in a flask for a nice warm breakfast?
Hope everyone's doing ok. Quite cold here up north, have had to put the heating on.
B: egg mayo and sausage
L: chicken drumsticks
D: left over roast pork mixed with leek, cauliflower and broccoli in a cream sauce baked with cheese in top, lovely!
S: cold grilled bacon
A bit space on veg today, but was so busy, just had chicken drumsticks on the hop. Will eat more veg tomorrow.
Thank you for all the kind wishes for my birthday. You are all smashing
Good news - I was the perfect low carb food angel yesterday. I managed to dodge the cake and had a fab steak and mushrooms for supper.
Bad news - I did drink a bit of champagne. Can really feel it this am. Still, I suppose you are only 44 once!
My period seems to have started early as well. Wonder if it's all the oestrogen being dragged out of my fat cells. Yeuch.
I need to get motoring now but will read properly on the train and post then.
Have a good day everyone.
According to mfp, since the start of bc my carbs are average 10g a day, coming from cream in coffee and veg/ salad. Is that what I should be aiming for?
I'm exercising as well, which duh! the penny dropped yesterday- means I am building muscle tone at the same time as losing ( hopefully)
Keep at it, reading posts is very inspirational and helps me say no
Lavenderhoney - had to say I completely agree with you, reading all these posts is very inspirational and definitely helps me say no to things too. I'm a bit of a lurker but do appreciate reading everyone else's posts. And on occasion, I do delurk
Dinner last night was nice "serve yourself" platter of griddled, sliced tuna, buttered runner beans (from the garden), some broad beans (also from the garden), cherry tomatoes and eggs mollet (eggs boiled so the white has firmed and the inside is still runny and then halved).
who doesn't like fish loved the "meat" which he thought was lamb . Will need to serve it that way again!
That sounds gorgeous pretty bird, how long do you boil eggs to get them to that stage?
I stupidly had wine last night, I've realised I medicate myself with alcohol - dreadful day at work so I wanted the booze numbness. This realisation has scared me a bit.
Today is mainly about drinking loads of water to flush it away.
B: bulletproof coffee with a babybel
L: tuna mayo with salad
D: homemade lamb keema with Cali rice
Onwards and downwards.
Lavenderhoney - that's very low and would suggest that you're not eating enough veg/salad. Even the hardest phase of the Atkins diet, induction, has you at 20g carbs per day! What have you been eating?
You lower them in salted boiling water and boil for six and a half minutes. Cool immediately in cold water and then peel off the shell.
I am newly obsessed with cauliflower rice. I had smoked mackerel 'kedgeree' for breakfast yesterday, then this morning with bacon and egg mixed through. It fills me right up.
Some of you may know that I've been training in preparation for a 5K race, to support World Child Cancer. As it's less than a month away, I'm ramping up my fund-raising. I have set myself an ambitious target, and I'm not too far away from it, but if anyone would care to sponsor me I would be very, very grateful
In addition, because that's a quiet part of the site, if you wouldn't mind keeping the thread bumped I'd be even more grateful!
Reading your menus I'm a bit worried I'm eating too much should I be trying to eat less at each meal as well as changing the type of meal, BIWI?
Don't know without knowing what you're eating/how much you're eating!
It's true that we don't count calories or weigh our carbs on Bootcamp. The aim is to make sure that you are eating enough so that you aren't hungry. This is not a WOE about feeling deprived.
However, that said, it isn't carte blanche to stuff yourself silly and eat massive portions of food swimming in creamy sauces
Why are you worried? What kind of food and portions are you eating?
Just some posts saying for lunch they had a few mouthfuls of something, or not being hungry enough to eat dinner! Yesterday I had
B 3 egg omelette with leftover roast chicken and rocket
L big tuna salad
D cauliflower cheese (from recipe thread) with a fillet of peppered mackerel and wilted spinach
S a wedge of manchego and some cucumber slices
I hope that's ok ^ I've been eating something a bit like that, 2 egg omelette, lots of leaves at lunch etc, but I have had to force myself to eat meals the las couple of days an definitely no snacks.
I'm also about to get my period any day which makes me eat more, so I was proud of sticking to low carb snacks!
It's true that being in ketosis does suppress the appetite, which is why people are talking about not being hungry or only eating small amounts.
As a daily practice, though, this can be dangerous as it does risk becoming hungry and therefore snacking on the wrong things.
What you are eating looks fine - however, you might want to ask yourself if your portions are large. A three egg omelette could be cut down to two. A 'big' salad could be reduced to 'medium'
Often we eat large portions because that's what we're used to doing - i.e. it's a habit. And this can often be the reason why we put weight on in the first place!
Ultimately only you can decide if you need to cut down. You haven't posted your weight this week, so I can't see if you've lost/not lost.
If you haven't lost/haven't lost enough, why not see if cutting down portions sizes helps you? But please don't do this to the extent that you start to get hungry!
Very interested in what people are saying about oestrogen being held in fat cells and being released as you lose weight. I have had one or two days lately where I have felt tearful for no apparent reason (you know those days when you find yourself crying at tv adverts ffs). Maybe this is why.
Yes, I think it is habit with me a lot of the time. I'll have a go at cutting down a bit and see. Already only having one snack is a huge improvement
Sorry - lost 1lb last week but had wine. Doing perfect boot camp this week and aiming for more!
Is coleslaw ok to have? I have friends coming for lunch. Ive done lots of salad stuff and grilled chicken (my chicken is fried in butter but think they won't want that) ive done some egg mayonnaise and getting a baguette for them. -- I won't eat it although I will be jealous they are!-- i will be getting coleslaw for them but don't want to eat it if it's not ok.
Check the ingredients - some coleslaws are better than others.
There's a recipe for homemade coleslaw in the Übercamp tab of the spreadsheet.
Best way to be sure, Purple2012, is to make your own. It's much nicer anyway!
125g white cabbage (less than 1/4 of a cabbage)
75g carrot (1 medium-sized carrot)
25g shallot (1/2 a banana/echalion shallot)
Slice white cabbage thinly
Grate carrot finely (don't use the largest holes on the grater)
Chop shallot finely
Add oil and wine vinegar - roughly 3 tablespoons oil and 1 tablespoon vinegar, and salt and black pepper. Stir everything well together. Leave for half an hour or so. Just before serving, stir in a tablespoon of mayo.
This will make 2 portions
Just make sure you're using low carb mayonnaise. The Delouis brand (Sainsbury sell this) is the lowest I've come across. Or, make your own!
Here's a Delia recipe for making your own mayonnaise
Whilst it starts off telling you how to make it with a hand whisk, if you scroll down she also tells you how to make it with a food processor, which is much easier and quicker!
Feeling quite proud of myself, I was back at work on Monday for the first time since starting bootcamp and I managed to resist the chocolate cake left out in the crew room, but more importantly I resisted the bowl of fruit. Previously I would have thought 'it's fruit, it's healthy' and would have devoured loads.
Thanks biwi I don't have time to make my own today but will do it next time. I will stay away from it today. Using low carb mayo for the egg mayonnaise.
I think, from memory, Sainsbury's Basics coleslaw is the lowest in carbs - if you can get to a Sainsbury's!
Today will be challenging I'm working 2pm -2am which seems to mess up eating patterns but I have planned.
Coffee with cream now plus 1L water
Egg and bacon at midday- another litre of water
Tuna mayonnaise with salad to eat at some point (meal break will be around 8pm)
Have made cauliflower soup to take in a thermos so can eat it on the run.
I find it really important to have something comforting to eat on nights as it's that 1.00am time when you've just done a shit job and the chip shop is the only thing open... I manage to convince myself I need something hot so soup will hopefully fill the gap.
Should be able to manage 4L of water.
Well, my portion sizes may be ok after all - just had a weigh in and despite already having had an omelette, a coffee and two glasses of water this morning I am STILL 1.5 kilos down from Monday, when I weighed first thing!! Woo hoo!!
After a half hearted week last week, I have added my self to the chart as I need an extra kick up the backside to stay on plan:
b/fast: Greek Yoghurt
lunch: omelette and bacon
Dinner: chilli (no rice or kidney beans) with avocado slices
I'm back of holiday. I've been terrible. I'm starting today.
I haven't had a period for two months but I can't keep blaming it on that
just before my period my appetite really ramps up too - i eat like i have a tapeworm
Eww Willie! I was just about to think about lunch...
Thanks willie! Would you be able to add me to the spreadsheet, I'm on an iPad. I lost 1lb last week
I find that Willie I also get cycle linked insomnia which also makes me eat more. Day three with proper focus and it is easier to stay firm. Just eaten a proper lunch at lunch time. And had a good solid breakfast. Tea is planned but I need to tweak it as it is light on the veg and fairly heavy on protein but seeing as breakfast was scrambled eggs, bacon and mushrooms and lunch was mince, mushrooms and leeks with "gravy" and cheese I think I need to add some more veg to the day. Not sure how as it is left over mince for tea as it really needs eating up and it has been too long made up to consider sticking in the freezer really. Any ideas?
Bronx - can't believe BIWI hasn't commented but hot chocolate!!!! On Bootcamp! Nooooo! It's full of sugar. I think the milk was the least of the problem!
Well I had an odd day yesterday. Woke up headachy and everything tasted off. Especially water. Didn't drink nearly enough as really struggled with it for some reason. Food wise I was ok.
B egg mayo
L - couldn't face salad so just had some slices of corned beef, some coleslaw and cheese
D - couldn't be bothered cooking what I'd planned and really wanted comfort food so had some bolognaise with grated cheese.
Resisted the wine at PTA meeting and just had fizzy water. Did have a couple of glasses of water when I got home too.
Today is busy and I'm flying to Dublin early in the morning so using up stuff in the fridge.
B Greek yoghurt. My first this bootcamp as I am worried they stall me
S small amount egg mayo
L - finished off the bolognaise on a bed of rocket with grated cheese.
prettybird love the sound of those eggs!
BIWI will sponsor you as soon as I get a few minutes. Well done you.
Just been to the health shop and bought a load of herbal tea so looking forward to trying them. Im hopingtthat they are all ok to have. Had a look at the coconut slices thinking that they would be nice to put in my yoghurt. I put them straight back down when I saw there was 44g of carbs per 100g!
Welcome, devilinside! But where is your veg?! You don't need to cut the carbs as drastically as it appears you are doing.
Buda - whoops, you're right - I didn't spot that!
Purple - herbal teas should be ok - I drink rooibos, with coconut oil at breakfast, without rest of the time. I also have some liquorice tea which i drink if i'm craving something sweet - it is strangely sweet but has no carbs.
BIWI- here's what I had today- after what you wrote I made myself have some chunks of cheddar, but I really wasnt bothered and its very unusual for me to snack!!
I've been lc since jan, and don't tend to eat unless I'm hungry, I found this a slow process of stoping carbs.
2 coffees with dash of cream
Brunch as I don't feel hungry at all in the morning, and I go to the gym straight after drop off and can't exercise properly if I have eaten.
Brunch was left over courgettes and leeks fried in butter with a handful of grated cheese on top and microwaved.
Dinner - roast belly of pork, asparagus and sweet corn.
I will have drunk 3 litres of water by bedtime. I don't feel hungry at all, and don't feel inclined to snack ever.. It comes up as 25g which is the most for one day this bootcamp.
If I'm not at the gym, I might have a BAB with the dc, but then just salad with sardines for lunch as I am so full.
What do you think? I always cook a roast for the dc with veg and its dripping with butter, fat and some olive oil. Yum!
Thanks captainmummy I have been drinking rooibos with coconut oil. I got apple and ginger, cinnamon cardamom and ginger and three ginger tea. It will be nice to have something other than water.
No need to snack if you're not hungry - it was more the lack of carbs that I was concerned about, Lavender! Which means lack of veg/salad.
For some reason I'm craving sweet stuff today. It's the first time it's bothered me. Luckily I haven't anything in the house! Wish I could think of something that would satisfy my cravings that is low carb. I'm trying to cut down on dairy a bit, as it sometimes makes me nauseous and if I'm not careful it stops me losing weight. But I know from past experience this is quite frustrating, as it limits what I can eat.
B: egg mayo and sausage
L: cold left over roast chicken, bacon
D: will be chilli without kidney beans served with mashed swede
S: spinach and cucumber salad with HM dressing
Lavender, what is BAB? (Sorry if I'm being dim)
Sometimes cravings are more habit. Yesterday it was raining and horrible. Perfect pizza day. I kind of missed being able to have it but I didn't really want it. It was just something we would do now and then.
Loopy, I too was stumped by the BAB! I was thinking bacon and ?? Thanks BIWI for the explanation.
I too am craving sweet things today and have no idea why as have been pretty strict since last Thursday and seem to be losing. So, I will just continue and hope I start feeling fondly towards my tuna mayo and broccoli dinner instead of thinking about dark chocolate...
Don't give in! It's the siren call of the carbs. Tricky little bastards they are ...
Haven't given in to the cravings, went and walked the dog instead.
Thanks BIWI- I'm going to add some more veg and salad. I think I'm probably eating too much meat / fish and filling up with that.
I had a couple of cravings for sweet things today, but just hid everything and drank water very hard as I made the dc chocolate cake.
Bed early for me- I'm getting through loads of books
Have had way too much cheese today - but dinner was bolognaise sauce with shredded cabbage and I am stuffed now.
I have had a strange day food wise - I just don't seem to feel hungry until about 5pm and then I am suddenly starving! Not helpful for meal times with DP
I had a bulletproof coffee and a protein shake with soy milk for breakfast and then another protein shake after the gym.
Wasn't hungry at lunchtime so I had some yogurt and a babybel, coffee with cream around 2pm then had another babybel at 3.30.
Demolished some leftover meatballs in tomato sauce at 5.30 (didn't even heat them up!) when DS was having his dinner and now I'm full.
I really should have had some veg! Is anyone else having issues with not feeling hungry enough to eat at the right times? I just feel sick at the thought of food if I'm not properly hungry
I am, but my dd is a pita if we don't eat together so I make myself have something.
B: grated cauli, 2 rashers of bacon fried together then an egg stirred in and a tiny bit of cheese on top.
L: tuna, cucumber & mayo with half a bag of leaves and a few cherry tomatoes, with a bit of olive oil.
D: 1 1/2 pork loin chops, with steamed swede & brocilli & courgette strips fried in buttr.
No snacks. 2 cups of tea with a dash of milk. Mega sore throat so water is slow going. Will be at 3.5l by bedrime.
Battery gone in scales so my daily obsessive weigh in is out. Jane feel loose but I bet I'll be disappointed come Monday weigh.
Cider, no sugar at all! I made it with cocoa powder + milk, so by reading the back of the cocoa powder (0.3g of carbs? 3g of carbs? Something with a 3 ) I thought, oh, brilliant, I can still have hot chocolate.
20g of carbs in 400ml of skimmed milk, according to MFP.
I was . Thought I'd had a good day!
Today is the first day I've experienced the not being hungry thing! Really busy at work and didn't get a break until 4pm. Only then did I realise I hadn't had lunch, just didn't miss it. Before bootcamp if this has happened I'm getting weak and shaky by 2pm and end up eating whatever biscuits etc are around but that didn't occur to me today.
So what I want to know is: is the shaky feeling just a sugar crash rather than hunger? - I always thought I needed to snack often so it didn't happen. This is something of a revelation for me.
Anyway quite a good day today
B: bulletproof coffee, scrambled egg and some asparagus
L: salad and mackerel (with lots of lemon juice and pepper) and mayo
D: liver stroganoff - adapted from this Delia recipe just substituted shallots and double cream for the onion and creme fraiche served with buttered steamed cabbage
Wow, bullet - that's a lot of dairy there! Why protein shakes? Can you not eat a proper breakfast? And some proper food after the gym? Just have a look at the ingredients in your protein shake!
You must plan in some real meals - so you can eat enough veg/salad - your day today has not really been a good one ...
I've always used protein shakes biwi, I'm happy with the ingredients I realise they aren't bootcamp. But they are low in carbs.
There's no way I could eat solid food immediately after the gym. I usually have my BP coffee, do the school run then have breakfast but I went straight to the gym this morning.
I do plan meals but if I just don't feel hungry then I don't eat them. I've now had a small steak and a pile of broccoli with lots of butter. I'll veg it up tomorrow!
bullet - Why do you have a shake after the gym if you've had one before? Do you actually need it? You would, actually, be far better going to the gym in a fasted state and then having the protein afterwards. They may be low carb, but they are full of
shit over-processed stuff.
stepping - that shaky feeling is low blood sugar, which your body translates as hunger. This is why we aim to keep our blood sugar levels stable, so that we don't experience this. (That said, if you hadn't eaten anything till 4pm, I'm not surprised you were hungry!)
Because that's what my trainer recommends
I've been really strict - maybe over strict. So anxious to succeed that I ate only meat and eggs yesterday. Back on normal meat/eggs/yoghurt/veg balance today. But I've had a cracking headache all day today. BIWI do you think that's a result of overdoing it yesterday? I've been drinking at least 2.5 litres of water per day.
Today I ate:
B scrambled eggs and smoked salmon
L tuna and salad with vinaigrette
S ff natural yoghurt with tablespoon of flax
D fajita steak with avocado, lettuce, tomato, bit of grated cheese, creme fraiche
I still have a headache, maybe a bit less.
Possibly - but also no benefit in not eating veg really. You should be eating some carbs!!! You had a really good week last week in terms of weight loss, so not really much need to be so punitive.
This WOE isn't about deprivation, honestly!
bullet does your trainer know that you're following a low carb diet?
Hello . Bit of a crappy eating day today spent 8 hour total in various tidgy airports with hardly any food availble. Very tempted to buy something carby but resisted. You are right that we need to be organised as doing it on the hoof is neigh on impossible here in the arse end of nowhere.
B cup of tea, 2 egg mayo on cucmber slices
L 40 g peanuts (no other food availble 4g carb so I may not see the sharp end of BIWI's big stick.)
S few feta cubes
D bolognese sauce including courgettes, celery, butter eaten on cucmber slices.... cucumber is my new bread.
S boiled egg with cream, 5 macademia nuts
Also 1 coffee and 1 tea
I am hinting around for a snack after dinner and wondering what you eat to satisfy that gap after dinner. Or should I reprogramme oot tell myself that the gap is wrong and just an od sweettooth habit?
I just want the scales to be kind this week. Twould be a real bugger if there was no change after all this willpower.
the butter was in the bol sauce, not slathered on the cucumber.....I'm not that weird....
Why not cheese after dinner? As long as dairy isn't a problem for you, cheese would be brilliant.
biwi what I was trying to say was that I often used to get shaky and was really surprised I didn't today despite not eating. By 4 I was hungry but not feeling like I was about to keel over. I think maybe I was a bit sugar addicted! Hopefully I'm on the way to breaking the habit now.
Yeah, he's fab!
With cucumber though
so how much cheese can we have? I read somewhere that it was one matchbox size. Or can we have more as long as the carbs are not too high?
on cucumber, obviously, justasmallglass.......
The breakdown of my food today, using mfp, says my diet was 49% fat, 18% carbs, and 33% protein.
Thats a lot of fat. Can you have too much?
I had peppers, onion and mushrooms with the mince, will up the veg intake tomorrow
ImATot - that's great - you should be eating fat:protein:carbs.
devil - that's good. Just make sure you do eat plenty of veg/salad
whodunnit - the limit on cheese isn't anything to do with carbs - there are not carbs in cheese. It's about whether or not you're sensitive to dairy. There is also the issue of calories. At this stage, you don't need to worry about calories, but as you get nearer to your target weight you may have to take this into account, which means you may have to think about how much cheese you're eating, as it is quite calorific.
bullet - I'm glad your trainer is supportive of low carbing - that makes life so much easier. But I think you really need to look at what you're eating and how it fits with Bootcamp rules. You're not really planning your meals, you're eating a lot of processed stuff and (from your posts last week) you are also cheating.
I'm glad that you find yourself not feeling hungry, as this is evidence that you are in ketosis, so this WOE should be working for you. But I worry that you're not eating properly. You aren't eating enough veg/salad - and you're leaving eating until you are ravenously hungry, instead of eating regularly.
It's up to you, obviously, if you choose to follow Bootcamp rules.
Cheese! Well I ate cheese (as snacks and in broccoli and stilton soup) on Monday and on Tuesday morning was 2lb up. So on Tuesday I ate no cheese, this morning I was 3lb down. Which could be the Cheese, Gromit; or it could be natural fluctuations and a slapped wrist for weighing daily.
But of course I'm suspecting the cheese!
When I read Dr Briffa's book last week it said that, despite not containing carbs, cheese can increase your insulin production (just like carbs do - and insulin makes you deposit fat). But it's usually counteracted by some other chemical that it increases which has an opposite effect. I guess this works differently on different people, so cheese can stall some people.
I wouldn't have got this far without cheese though - and its way better to snack on cheese than toast!
Bullet- protein shakes are great if you are trying to build muscle. Are you? You have 2 in a very short space of time. Does your trainer know you are replacing meals iwth them?
And you have had NO veg at all today. Honestly you need veg for fibre and bowel health.
Bootcamp rules are quite prescriptive and for good reason.
You aren't really low carbing there - just replacing meals with processed crap and having one meal a day. You may as well be on slim fast.
I love food and I love this WOE!!
Offs, ended up on a date tonight. There was non bootcamp stuff involved. A lovely evening totally out of my control. The one saving grace is that the situation is now such that I feel comfortable enough to explain the LC and why I am trying to LC so hopefully this doesn't arise again. Twas a very nice evening though day one square one tomo. I can and I bloody well will do this. And if there is a lack of understanding when explained I guess that will tell me a lot about what i need to know and whether this goes anywhere. Cos the LC ain't going anywhere. <superglues ass to the wagon>
Woo hoo! Lovely news about date, NewStart!
A date? A date? Come on New, tell us all!! I want some vicarious romance!
However, that said, it isn't carte blanche to stuff yourself silly and eat massive portions of food swimming in creamy sauces
Now you tell me, BIWI!
Been feeling a bit rough this week with annoying virus but still feeling massively calmer and healthier than before bootcamp. Had a big wobble this afternoon when I went food shopping hungry and all I could thing of that I fancied eating involved beans or rice. I was looking longingly at the biscuits that they strew around so temptingly, too. It's really dangerous for me to let myself get hungry - made me start thinking wistfully about wine, too, and I've been amazingly (for boozy me) good in cutting my alcohol like this. Much harder to resist the wine than the forbidden foods, tbh.
Anyway I bought a crab pate and ate the whole tub when I got in with cucumber sticks. It was lovely! The meal situation was saved by some really great reductions on the fish counter, so got a load of squid for around £3 (half price) and a sea bream with fennel butter for £3.29 (reduced from £6.29). It fed both of us so that was a bargain!
B/L - tuna and cheese patties (DD loves these!) with fried tomatoes
S - crab pâté and cucumber sticks
D - sea bream with mashed buttery swede and spinach cooked with shallot, garlic and a dash of cream. It was bloody lovely!
Too much tea, plenty of water.
morning all, a date you say newstart do tell!!
hope everyone is still doing ok, I've had a few very busy days and have nit been as organised as I should have been food wise, but still managed to stick to bc
I have done a meal plan for next week and am off shopping later.
Bullet I train at the gym 3 times a week and my trainer also very good about me low carbing, he does not advise protein shakes unless muscle building and even then limited as they are full of processed stuff that's not great. have you considered doing a meal plan? I know it's hard when your not hungry.
Morning, posting now as I have a busy day today. Off to a gig with a lovely friend I haven't seen for ages. There will be wine but that's ok as I'm in week 3.
B tuna mayo
L bacon salad
D spanish chicken from recipe thread
Trying bulletproof coffee and its really nice.
Happy LCing everyone.
OMG - after a slow start, I am now 8lb down! I can't believe it! Even when I was running 4 or 5 times a week and training for a half marathon I just couldn't seem to get below 11st. I'm now 10.5. I must admit, I'm looking forward to being able to reintroduce a little carb, but am definitely not going back to my old carby twat ways. And I'm certainly not going back to carby breakfasts - they set you up so badly for the day.
B: half an avocado with greek yoghurt, olive oil and salt and pepper and a soft boiled egg, cup of chai (no milk)
I downloaded the Briffa book onto my kindle last night and read the whole thing. It really makes things a lot clearer and has helped a lot in understanding. Also clarified in my mind what I should be doing with exercise. Very useful and well-spent £3.99.
Some great losses coming through. Well done everyone.
Busy day yesterday and I was shattered. Am working today then swimming tomorrow. I do think this WOE combined with being fit gives you a lot of energy. I am not that fit just now so need to address this.
Excited by the date news. Please tell us more.
BIWI, have sponsored you for run. Sorry it's not more but a little skint before payday! Go you.
Cam I just say thanks again to everyone for the chat and support. Women friends really are the best. You are all wonderful and I feel very lucky to have found you
Holmes - I totally agree about the carby breakfasts! When an ad for some wholewheat
sugary cereal comes on, rabbiting about how it 'fills you up till Lunch' I have to restrain myself from yelling at te screen 'No it doesn't! Not unless Lunch is 2 hours after breakfast!'
God I used to have to eat every 2 hours, before, even on stuff like FruitnFibre.
Captain I so agree - every single other "diet" I've been on went wrong 2 hours after breakfast
actually probably as soon as I'd done the school run
Starry you are a FAST reader!
Aw, sybil, that's a lovely thing to say
(and have sent you PM as well)
I am very confused. I'm eating celery with pâté for breakfast and its quite pleasant. The raw celery I mean. I only buy it to put in cooking cos no one here (including me) can stand it raw. What is happening to my taste buds????
If you haven't done so already, remember you can sponsor BIWI here:
Would the briffa book help me with DD and her insane activity schedule?
I have just posted on the nutrition Q&A. Twice a week she does gymnastics from 4 until 6, then has to be at the pool at 6.45 to swim until 9.05.
Someone at the swimming club advised yogurt or a cereal bar
I am giving her a wholewheat sandwich with chicken and sweet corn, some fruit and a drink then something hot in the car or the way home.
But the sports nutritionists keep pointing at carby carb carbs and we (as a family) just don't process carbs well.
Would it help <clings to people's legs crying a bit>
Right, this is the last I am going to say about protein shakes! I am building muscle, so I need a lot of protein and at regular intervals. I am not generally using them to replace meals, yesterday was an exception due to a very busy day and needing to fit the gym in somewhere. I am happy using them, my trainer is happy with me using them and I don't think they impede my weight loss.
Yesterday was an exceptional day for me, I do not usually go most of the day without eating vegetable or salad, and I rarely skip breakfast.
Also I did eat some vegetables in the evening - this is what I ate yesterday again
B- bulletproof coffee, protein shake with soy milk
S- protein shake
L - 150g yogurt, babybel
S - babybel
D - meatballs in tomato sauce (hm sauce of celery, tomat0, shallot a little carrot)
2nd D - small feather steak, pile of tenderstem broccoli, butter.
So, I know I should have eaten more veggies but I don't think it's quite as bad as you are all making out!
I appreciate there are rules and I am trying to stick to them but sometimes it is difficult and days are busy and I am finding eating when I am not hungry very difficult.
And biwi I am very grateful for the support of this thread and all the work you put in to making this possible. I know it might sound like I'm not - but I really am!
This morning I have had a bulletproof coffee and mackerel pate with crudite, lunch will be feather steak with broccoli and dinner will be lc fish pie (I'll put it on the recipe thread because it is super easy and delicious!)
Bullet I don't know whether anyone has mentioned this, but do you think those protein shakes are a good idea...? I hear they're a bit processed...
Would a protein shake be good for DD
Half a pound on for me this morning. Grumph.
S'pose that might be the humungous amounts of cheese I've eaten this week. And the gallons of tea. Virus is making me so achey and headachey that I need the pep of the tea though.
[[http://feastwithoutregret.wordpress.com/2013/06/16/harlots-sauce-with-squid/ Squid alla puttanesca for me tonight - I'm looking forward to it already! Reduced from £9.99/kg to sick squid 99 /kg (say it out loud ) so there'll be enough there for two nights for all three of us. Yum!!
pagwatch if DD is doing 4/5 hours of exercise in one evening carbs may well be what she needs.
some kind of supplement might be appropriate
Probably not Pag - I hear they're full of processed crap...
<<runs away from Bullet very fast, hoping she doesn't live up to her name...>>
Pag I'd give her a light protein based meal before... Something like chicken with sweetcorn and baby tomatoes in mayonnaise. Then some nuts and berries eg almonds and blueberries, in between training sessions. Then whatever you usually give her afterwards. And loads of water.
Would she eat that? Then you've got plenty of protein but some complex carbs for immediate (but gradual) glucose release too.
Writing my shopping list and therefore menu plan for the next few days.
What else can I have with salad for lunch? So far on Bootcamp I've had prawns in mayo, smoked mackerel pate, egg & ham mayo, smoked salmon & avocado, avocado & tomato & mozerella, chicken (with and without avocado). I've got cubes of cheese & ham on the list. All other inspiration gratefully received!!
I like the peppered mackerel fillets from sainsburys and asparagus
Toomuch - how about feta cheese and olives a la greek salad? Add a couple cherry toms and some basil...
Ok, have sponsored BIWI in the hope this will buy me immunity from her big stick Struggling with sugary twat thoughts this morning but haven't given in. Have looked in on this thread instead for inspiration from reading everyone's posts
I am going to have to sue Sainsburys for mental distress. I walked into our local one to be faced with a huge picture of a FISH FINGER SANDWICH.
It's just cruel I tell you.
Struggling today again . I made the stupid mistake of weighing myself this morning, only to find I've lost nothing, despite sticking strictly to this woe.
Loopy - BIWI will no doubt start the week3 thread with warnings about not being disheartened by NO losses in week3/4 sometimes 5. The losses in the first few weeks are mainly water weight with a bit of fat, and the biggest change is converting your body to fat-burning. After this the weight loss will be much slower, as the glycogen stores (which house instant-access fat/water) are already empty and the body is now looking at your long-term fat stores.
Don't be disheartened, it's a good thing - and the weight will continue to come off (whilst you are eating delicious food!)
OK so my old scales say 10 stone, and the newer ones I bought which used to always show me lighter than the old ones, say 10 stone 9 one minute and 10 stone 7 the next. Then I go back to the old ones and they start saying 10 stone 2.
My aim is to see a 9.
I think the god of LC is sending me a message, via possession of the scales, and the message is of course step away from the scales Nigella
Tape measure or the fit of clothes are always going to be your best bet Nigella.
I am avoiding the scales until monday (probably tuesday if we are honest as there seems to just be something about monday mornings)
Re date: very uneventful just nice conversation sorry if you were expecting fireworks. Who knows. Just nice to be out and not have to deal with some of the twats that are out there. Have encountered too many recently.
Bullet I will make no more mention of protein shakes
But I'm intrigued as to what you are training for, that requires you to build up muscle in this way! do you look like this?!
Captain, I'm only in week 2 and have only lost 3 lb
Pag - Briffa probably won't be much help in your DD's specific situation. And most sports nutritionists will still advise you to eat carbs. This book is more likely to be helpful
Your DD certainly needs energy, and so I'd be focussing on giving her more fat. The complication you have is obviously that you need to be giving her something portable. I'd ditch the fruit, personally. Does she like milk? How about a full fat chocolate milk? (Although chances are, all the ones that are ready made will be low fat!)
loopyloou - list out for me all your meals/drinks over the last few days, and let's see if there's anything I can help with.
But remember - you have still lost 3lbs! That's 6 packs of lard!
pagwatch, like crabby i was thinking that nuts might be a good option. plenty of fat and good and filling and portable.
Nigella My old scales broke so I bought new handy-dandy ones which give hugely fluctuating readings. Incidentally I think ours are sexist as they give the same all the time to DH and DS yet vary for me and DD until they send us shreiking from the bathroom! I go on fit of clothes.
My weight has not changed much over the last few months yet I have gone down a clothes size and am getting comments on my weight loss
Captainmummy - I too have to restrain myself from ranting about cereal - Dh already thinks I'm crazy for low carbing. He was a bit at the speedy weight loss though, and may have stopped making scathing remarks!
Thanks for the replies
Yeah, she does need carbs, she a kid. But they only suggest carb and it drives me batshit " what about some pasta and a yogurt or a cereal bar?"
I guess making a good chicken mix to eat with a small amount of wholewheat pasta is a good basis. Or perhaps some chunky soup?
Gah, I need more vacuum flasks
Oh btw - lunch is aubergine melts. They are cooking right now. If they turn out well, I might go and put my first entry on the recipes thread.
X-posted. Thanks BIWI - i'll get that book.
The chocolate milk is such a good idea I have already done that
The m&s shake is full fat milk.
And the irritating arse doesn't like nuts, unfortunately.
Breakfasts have been egg mayo with LC sausage or bacon or mushroom, lunch has been either chicken drumsticks or cold bacon or tuna mayo with salad, dinner has been chilli without beans or roast pork with veg and swede, things like that.
I have cut down on dairy as too much makes me nauseous, but also I think it does slow my weight loss down sometimes. But cheese and yoghurt are the most enjoyable things about this WOE for me
I'm struggling to drink water now the weather has changed, but am drinking herbal tea instead.
The main problem today is I'm craving something sweet, preferably chocolate AND I got on the scales, only to find I hadn't lost, although I thought I had
I know I need to step away from the scales. This happens to me every time. If I don't see a loss, I get disheartened and give up. I start to think, why bother if I'm not losing weight when I stick strictly to this WOE.
Originally I wasn't going to weigh myself at all, but then I decided I needed to see the weight coming off. Now I wish I hadn't
Sorry for whinging. Trying hard not to be a carny twat
Pag - does she like peanut butter? That's really good re fat and also pretty low carb. Great on celery, if she likes celery.
loopy - don't worry about the whingeing - that's what we're here for!
Your meals look fine, but have you been keeping your fat levels up? It's difficult to tell from your descriptions.
And you really do need to make sure you're drinking the water.
I get what you say about cheese/yoghurt, but it may well be worth having a couple of days without either, just to see what happens.
But best to avoid the scales until Monday. And remember - we're really just only half way through week 2.
BIWI my eyes are burning... what bizarreness is this!!
Just a tip Bullet... if you are weight training for competitions, try not to make this face - it won't help you win!
On the other hand, I wouldn't mind looking like [[https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=muscle+women&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=vto6UprTM6iu0QXW84C4Ag#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=Vyqj_-1HYU153M%3A%3B7_j96etSCZHx0M%3Bhttps%253A%252F%252Flh4.googleusercontent.com%252F-ngwLFhzZ_cc%252FTXilUj8NxoI%252FAAAAAAAAElk%252FtTgY5EGLmGg%252Fs1600%252FMuscle%252BwOmen%252B07.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fcoolfunclub.blogspot.com%252F2011%252F03%252Fmuscle-women.html%3B576%3B863 this.}}
I found drinking lots of water easier when it was hot. At the moment all I want is hot drinks, I'm really feeling the cold . I guess peppermint tea is just hot water really though, no carbs?
I add HM mayo to meals wherever I can - recipe includes 1 egg yolk, 1.5 tbsp cider vinegar, 350 ml sunflower oil, salt and pepper, nothing else. I think that's fairly low carb?
I use full fat mince, eat the skin on chicken, eat pork crackling, have full fat yoghurt when I have it, add coconut cream to curry, fry everything in butter and add butter to veg, so I think I should be getting enough fat.
I think I'm just having a rubbish day mood-wise My usual way of coping would be a bar of chocolate or a trip to the local cafe if possible, that is all not possible now. I know this is emotional eating and that is my biggest problem. I'm never hungry, but have realised how much of my eating is emotional.
And crabby has just reminded me why I shouldn't click links on mn.
Loopy why not measure instead? That way you'll see the progress without letting the scales mess with your head!
FFS someone tell me to go and get on with my day. I've been faffing around
and MNing all bloody morning!
Yes, Crabby, that makes sense. Problem is I have no willpower and can't put the scales away as DH is using them too
I'll try and stay away from them for now as they always cause me problems.
Loopy - go away!
(Meant in the nicest possible way)
Crabby - those pictures are gruesome, but compelling, aren't they?! I spent ages looking through them. I just can't imagine why someone would want to look like that. And what on earth do they wear?!
You sound like you're doing great Loopy - stay on the wagon long enough to see the effects. Remember you've already lost 6 packs of lard (!!) You are allowed low-carb snacks if you have to indulge that emotional eating thing (I know all about that.)
I'm really feeling the cold this week too, I'm going to have to find alternatives to salad for lunch, I've had soup some of this week but was back to a chilly salad today.
Someone was mixing boiled water with tap water so they could drink it more comfortably - could be one to try?
The reason for the water is, it flushes out the ketones (into your wee). Ketones are produced when we burn our own fat (or something like that). But if they get to a certain level in our blood, that all stops, we stop burning our own fat. So keep drinking the water, to keep burning our fat. Motivating, no?
Slow and steady weight loss is good because it gives your skin a chance to catch up with the new you.
You know those links are heavily photoshopped don't you? I want to look like gurny lady - but with a normal face!
Some of them do look like women's faces have been photoshopped on to men's bodies!
Can I shuffle in rather late, read the thread last week on 10 th and started on 11th.
Can't add onto the list so if someone could add me that would be great.
11.9 13 -11.12
Today have had
celery sticks & cream cheese
2 eggs mashed with butter and some ham & 4 cherry toms
Dinner will be pork steak, celeriac mash and broccoli
Am trying to up water intake and still drinking 3-4 tea or coffee daily with lactofree milk
Welcome, fitflopqueen! You're on the spreadsheet.
Thanks the detail has been really helpful
Can I recommend this soup? Use shallots instead of onion, ignore the milk (extra stock or cream instead)
Serve with crispy bacon on top
I need some more vegetarian recipes. We need to budget more (dont eat meat) and are struggling a fair bit with the amount of fish I'm eating to keep the protein up just as the blardy hens have stopped laying. I'm coming off Bootcamp in 5 days and going onto maintenance.
Thanks Lily I'll try with the water. But isn't peppermint tea the same? And other herbal teas?
What sort of low carb snacks do you eat?
Am I supposed to be exhausted all the time?
And feeling fuzzy headed, i cant' concentrate at all!!!
yes- snack ideas please! particularly peckish today!!
newstart and vipers you're right about focusing on the measurements rather than scales. Another good day here. I'm very much of the eat when I'm hungry school of thought. Sometimes I go for ages between meals. I know this WOE makes me fuller for longer - I stay full overnight too.
Just checking in. Things ticking along here and hope I am losing - not weighing till Monday though!
Have v much enjoyed catching up on thread especially ProteinshakeGate and bodybuilding women photos - it is the walnutty colour of their skin I also find so very fascinating
I'm still reeling from some of those bodybuilder links. That last one BIWI posted. What's all that about? Looks like she's pulled on some kind of fake suit.
Still on track here food-wise those def not enough water yesterday and today after being really good with it up til now. Trying to remedy that but have to dash to supermarket and worry I'll have to leave my trolley down one of the aisles to rush for a wee...
God, Pag that's am amazing schedule your DD has. Pity she doesn't like nuts for fast re-fuelling – what about peanut butter that someone suggested earlier? My DD used to swim in our local squad but gave up when she was around 13 – and after all those trips to the ruddy pool. The least she could have done was become an olympic athlete. (just kidding) She has a lovely lean figure after all that sport, lucky thing.
Today so far:
L home-made coleslaw with skin-on chicken breast
D tbc maybe lamb chops with buttery greens
Keep on everyone!
PS Glad you had a good date Newstart even if low-key!
Sorry, if I've missed responding to anything else.
BIWI very impressed with yr running. WIll bump thread later when I do donation
I'm staying out of that one!
Ds is doing his homework on my laptop. It is enough to drive you to drink. In a whole hour he has written 4 sentences and how he is still alive is a minor miracle.
Paprikka chicken drumsticks for tea tonight - potatoes for ds and courgette bake for me. Entirely too excited about this.
Yay - my trousers are getting longer. Which, when you're 6 feet tall, is very excitingI will have warm ankles this winter (but a colder tummy where my trousers aren't staying up as they used to).
I have lit the log=-burner today! Room nice and warm.
also been v 'picky' today (prob cos I had a day off)
Breakfast 2 eggs scrambled with butter
lunch half bag leftover salad leaves, tomato, mayo
snacks radishes with butter, cheese slices with marmite,
dinner will be roast pork with crackling and roast cauli and prob some other veg too.
6 pints water and 4 large black teas.
pixie - sounds like carb flu, but as we're in week 2, a little unlikely. Are you in week 2?
If you are in week 2, were you strict in week 1? How did you feel last week?
Sounds like you might not be eating enough, and possibly not enough fat. List out for me what you've been eating/drinking over the last few days.
I wish I had measured at the start! Is it too late? What do I measure, waist, bust, hips and thighs?
Dh made me a coffee this morning and put in more than my normal dash of cream. He was very heavy handed- it tasted really sweet and I was sure he had put sugar in until I tried his sugary coffee and it was foul
Still not having wine, very pleased with myself for this
... and could also mean that you have a problem with your electrolyte balance. Are you eating plenty of salt? Salmon, spinach and avocado all good things to eat to ensure you're getting sufficient sodium, potassium and magnesium, along with the salt.
Try drinking a hot drink made with Oxo or Marmite or Bovril - that should help with the salt, and make sure you're cooking with it/using it on your food.
Lavender sounds good and never to late to start to measure.
Look what Willie found!
I should run in this I think!
I think it's important to measure Loopy, I'm still a few ounces heavier than my weight on Sunday but my belt is a notch tighter so I hope to see the 'whoosh' in the next few days as another pound comes off.
Weird. I tried hard last week and only lost a pound. Got fed up of the headaches and feeling exhausted so pretty much gave up....since then I seem to have lost another 3lbs!
Don't know where I'm at now - what works and what doesn't. However am thinner, and that's all that matters
I have realised that how much water I drink is absoloutely key to how I get on each day.
The days I haven't drunk enough have been followed by a morning of headache and lethargy.
Are there any grandmas who need egg sucking advice?
@ female body builders and love the t shirt BIWI & Willie
yes I'm in week 2. you are right, def not eating enough. bit unplanned this week. off to drink Marmite now. actually might try beef stock uk Marmite is gross.
I've had a whole week without diet coke! I can't quite believe it.
I've decided to cut down on cheese and try to have more chicken. I have yoghurt and cinnamon each day for breakfast and usually put cheese in a salad, omelette etc but I am going to try and not have cheese for the next few days and see if I get a bigger weight loss on Monday.
Well done, Purple - that's no mean feat!
Just make sure that if you're dropping the cheese that you are adding sufficient fat back into your diet - chicken is very lean.
I am frying my chicken in lots of butter and having mayo with every salad and a lot of eggs so I should be ok shouldn't I?
And oily dressings on your salad? And butter on your veg?
I have the mayo instead of dressing on my salad. Not doing great with butterbon veg but I am having all full fat stuff. Do you think I should maybe have a little bit of cheese? Maybe around 40g each day?
Well, I am happy to report that I will never look like these weighlifters! Phew! My obsession with choclate will not morph into an obsession with cow protein or photoshop or whatever they do to look like that, BIWI!
Just reporting in today's meals
B - cheese 2 egg omelette
L - bacon, egg sausage _ Ileft the breadbun they came in
D - salad with cucmber n celery n ham and egg pie minus the pastry. The man on the deli assured me it was made with only floor scrapings and no other non-pork ingredients had been added.
S - peppeoni stick
Had two pretend mouthfuls of my 7 yr olds choc cake - chewed n then surruptitioulsy spat it in the bin. She was delighted I enjoyed it so much. I would hate it if my girls ever did that about food. hypocrisy is my middle name.
BIWI - what do you reckon to Nigell'a way of not eating unless you are hungry? I haven't been hungry since I started this. And you did tell someone to cut down portion sizes and see ifthat made her lose. Should I eat regualrly whetehr I am hungry or not? Should I eat small portions?
If you're new to low carbing, I'd always recommend that you stick to the two weeks of Bootcamp, and therefore eat three meals day. This will ensure that you get your blood sugar levels stable.
Nigella has been doing low carbing for a while, and is therefore much more likely to be ketogenically adapted than you are, so not eating and missing the odd meal is less likely to affect her.
You don't need to worry about cutting down your portions at this stage. Just focus on getting the hang of low carbing for the moment. You're doing really well so far, no need to worry about changing anything yet!
And crabby has just reminded me why I shouldn't click links on mn.
Sorry New, but BIWI started it!
BIWI it is compelling - I spend ages browsing that page, with a mixture of horror and admiration.
Bullet gurny lady has a great body. I think the problem comes about when they start using anabolic steroids. I was looking at the pictures and wondering why so many had such masculine faces, and I realised that it's the masculinising effects of the steroids that are necessary to get that incredibly extreme pumped up look. The ones who look natural and with great definition have normal faces, the huge one really don't!
Loopy herbal teas are fine, but do be aware that many, many herbs have diuretic properties and so will make you pee more. You need to be having just water too.
[flower] purple well done on your week without the demon diet coke!
toomuch My trousers get longer too before I have to go down a size. It's really odd!
I slipped slightly off the wagon this afternoon, I had a square of 80% chocolate and a spoon of peanut butter. I'm determined to get back in track tomorrow and in the meantime have been drinking lots of warm water with a splash of lemon juice.
I think I need to try and stay away from the scales for now so will just measure myself once a week in Monday instead for a while.
Hello from Dublin!
LOLing away at ProteinShakeGate! And yes BIWI you should def run in that t-shirt!
Travelling day for me. Up early and had a Greek yoghurt while running around getting packed and getting DS organised for school. Got to airport with lots of time to spare so decided to try have a decent breakfast to stop me feeling tempted by crap on the plane. Restaurant did eggs benedict with either bacon or flat mushroom on a muffin. So I asked to swap the muffin for mushroom. It was nice!
Am staying at my Dad's and an old friend came for lunch sort of unexpectedly. I made a big bowl of salad with some tomatoes and goats cheese and I added a few flaked almonds - not ideal but was trying to conure something nice out of not a lot! Had with sliced roast beef and turkey and a little cheese. Avoided the yummy Irish brown soda bread with butter.
Dinner was a pork chop with the rest of the salad. Dad very apologetic that he forgot to buy wine! I was grateful!
He did buy my favourite low carb granola though! Although I obviously won't be having it. And he bought crisps! Tayto crisps which are yum. Won't be having those either!
Have drunk two litres of water. About to drink some more. Have had too many cups of tea but figure its better than wine!
That's me just in from seeing Sean Lock who claims his shameful habit is going on mumsnet!!
Not one of the bootcamp gang are you Sean???!!
B boiled eggs with mayo
L lettuce leaves with cheese and onion filler
D bolognaise sauce with courgette strips.
I'm missing my running as working full time two DC with all their activities plus studying for a biiiigggg exam in 10 days.
Keeping off the wine...just. It does become a habit to use it as a "treat"
Night all and well done
Ps new start - chuffed for you that date one went well
Didn't sleep a wink last night due to DD2s new separation anxiety/teething.
This is the sort of thing that sends me to carbs, it will just have to be caffeine today!
Water and butter are the key.......
Well I'm back up a couple of pounds - I guess that's the trouble with daily weighing. I didn't intend to weigh daily - I was just curious! I think part of the fluctuation might be because of digestive issues - like some others I am finding I'm not very, ahem, regular atm. Maybe loads of eggs don't help! Hoping a strong coffee and some flax seed might though.
Ruprekt, was that to me? I've had a litre of water this morning already!
Oo Gless - remember 'slatterly'? She was so funny, she could have been Sean Lock!
Purple - well done on kicking the coke habit! That single thing is probably worth so much to your overall health. Really hope you keep it going!
IamaTot - sleep deprivation is proven to make you eat more! Be mindful... good luck.
Morning campers, hectic couple of days so I missed shake gate- catching up giggling on the bus!
Yesterday was my lesson in being prepared. Managed to leave my bag of food of home so had to cobble together breakfast and lunch from the smallest, shittest tescos ever. Managed to find Greek yog but was total 0%, there was some OL but was higher in carbs. For lunch I had a pack of ham and cucumber. It wasn't great. Fell onto a roast chicken last night to make up for it.
Today my bag is with me so I have egg muffins for breakfast, meatloaf and buttered veg for lunch and tuna mayo with cucumber as a snack. Dinner will prob be chipolatas with cauli mash.
Happy Friday! Can't believe we've nearly done two weeks.
Keep at it. Yesterday two people mentioned how much weight I had lost off my thighs. I even saw a photo and thought I looked good! I usually cringe and delete them ( unless I have been hiding at the back). The trousers from the back of the wardrobe have made a comeback. It is strange to be losing weight and not being hungry. Finding it hard to down the water. Drinking lots of green tea. Coffee habit has reduced drastically. This has been a gradual process from the last boot camp.
On day 5- never bothered with a proper "diet" ( oh WOE is me!) before so amazed I got this far! Broken my diet coke habit too, so feeling
smug proud. Started drinking the stuff 6 years ago when my daughter went to hospital with cancer. It became my emotion crutch and caffeine fix ( dont do coffee or tea). Daughter is fine now so time to say goodbye to the syrupy crap!
Weighed myself this morning and 3lb down..
I'm sticking to:
Greek yoghurt (have Total atm but not as nice as Lidl's) and a piece of cheese for breakfast - I stopped the berries with my yoghurt - this has made a difference as I'm not getting peckish before lunch so obv fruit sugars do affect me...
soup for lunch (cream of mushroom atm but changes every 3-4 days)
low carb meal so last night was cauli cheese and sausage, tonight will be roast chicken with veg..
Rarely need to snack but a baby bel or 4 Brazil nuts or a small pot of peanuts seems to keep me on an even keel if I do get hungry.
I need to drink more plain water still - i find when the weather is cold, I don't want cold drinks.. so I'm still figuring that out... but I'm 3lb down and I'm going to stay that way!
I've tried a variety of herbal teas but all are a bit of a disappointment. I'm sticking to water or sprinkling water.
I wonder if I'm eating enough as I'm not that hungry, I don't have those sudden hunger pangs when you think 'the hell with it, I need to eat something now or I'll die'. My weight is fluctuating a bit but still below what I started with. I might need an extra week on BC.
well, a sprinkling of sparkling water
Oh, I have missed shake gate - will have to catch up on thread. I did however click some of those muscle women links.
I know one of the women on that page. Went to school with her. She's a complete psycho nutjob, quite apart from the whole body building thing.
DH started boot camping on Tuesday and he's lost 2.5 kilos already! I think this is the first time mumsnet has impressed him
Good for him. It's really infuriating how much more quickly men seem to lose the weight, and how much they can lose.
Well done to bigkids DH!
Love the sprinkling water! I drink sprinkling water more in the winter months as it just feels better than cold tap water for some unknown reason yet in summer months I prefer cold tap water(!) yup wierdo!! I am a tea addict and I know it(!) but am drinking weak peppermint tea as a substitute and going to buy a different type every month just to make a change....
I like to drink hot water: just boiled water from the kettle with a splash of cold so I don't burn my tongue. It's surprisingly flavourful.
My DH is back from a business trip in America and he brought back a bottle of Baileys. I might have to strategically regift it and hope he doesn't notice.
Today i am struggling. TOM, the unavoidable slipping, too little sleep and a meeting that I am dreading. So in my wisdom I have just made cake. Thankfully I can freeze it and send it in for Christmas fair or whatever but still. Why do that to yourself?
newstart when I'm down or feeling a bit out of control sometimes I feel like baking - I don't know why. I think it's a comfort thing - it's not even to do with wanting to eat the stuff, (although that's a whole other story)!! just the physical act of baking...
I agree, somehow cake = nurture but it is more the act of baking it and the smell of it cooking rather than eating it! (Although Nigella is right, that is a whole other story!)
Stay strong NewStart however bad the meeting it will definitely be over and in the past at some point today. Can you think of something delicious and low carb to make later?
Hi all. I'm a bit fed up today. I've got fungus growing on me like an itchy rash, which I need to take piriton for, but as that is really sweet I haven't, and I have a horrible cold and sore throat . My destructive constantly being a danger to himself 2 yr old is being, well, himself really as well as not sleeping and the oldest is being a teenage dirtbag. To top it all off I have (stupidly) weighed myself and have gained a pound. I only lost a pound last week (although I started the previous Thursday and had actually lost 4 pounds by the weigh in on Monday but didn't count it at the first one....
I'm rambling I know, sorry. I feel sad. I haven't cheated, I've drunk lots of water etc. it makes me want to pack it all in and buy a big bar of dairy milk and enjoy myself (for about an hour) with hot cup of tea.
Could you all tell me to get a grip please?
Ffs. Toddler has just grabbed my only belly steak and run off eating it...
I saw a quote that I think about when it is sometimes a struggle -
don't give up what you want most for what you want now
get a grip twit- stick with it- it will be worth it! you have lost weight over all and little fluctuations will happen. Remember this is a new WOE not a short term fix.
Sympathies Newstart re stress. Last night was a big crisis in DH business. Spent hours together mulling over solutions and normally that level of stress would have definitely had me reaching for the wine. It was at least a half-bottler on the stressometer (probably more). BUT I didn't touch a drop or go off the WOE at all. I have iron willer!!! Feeling quite pleased with myself for passing this test!
In a nutshell:
Been good/no cheating.
Sneaky weigh this am.
BEEN GOOD! FFS!
Immediate emotional response –well stuff it, I'll drink wine/eat cake tonight! (last night before DD heads to uni so bit of a family meal thing going on in GooGoo house)
More measured (later) response – remember what stuntnun (?) and others posted re fat turning water leading to weight increase following by weight loss
Sticking to it/trying to be hopeful/making sure I drink my 3l of water!
Grab that belly steak twit and keep pressing on. Like your quote, Purple There's another (Buddhist) one I found somewhere that's similar but I spilled coffee all over it and the paper I wrote it on disintegrated. Something like:
What you do today is who you are tomorrow
So in Bootcamp terms:
Carby twat today, fat(ter) carby twat tomorrow
Have a good weekend all and good luck to Newstart and those dealing with stressful situations. Well done starry for not reaching for the wine bottle last night!
Agree with Nigella and Viper about whole nurture side of baking. My mum always baked on a Sunday when the roast was in and I've always loved baking with DDs so have this strong urge to bake a couple of cakes later today for DD to take away with her....
Twit and Googoo, I'm in a similar situation. Been good all week, weighed myself yesterday, had put 1 lb on! Very frustrating!
I'm struggling today too, just got in from extremely stressful work and would normally comfort eat I'm fighting it at the moment.
Stick with it ladies
I have no appetite at all today, drinking water and had bacon and poached egg for brunch
starrystarry- any success with your low carb granola???
I have been sooooooo good. I did my workout today. I have stuck to the regime perfectly. I am losing weight and stuff but the sun is shining, it's Friday and I really want a glass of something nice.
[sigh] it's mineral water and a slice of lemon isn't it?
Fridays seem to be a problem for me - the siren wine is calling. I shall resist... For some reason I also feel like eating a whole
vat jar of peanut butter. But steak and cauliflower cheese will have to do <sad violins emoticon>.
Stick with it, don't panic!the thing is to either weight exactly the same each week or weigh daily. For me as a daily weigher I know my weight fluctuated by up to 2lbs within any give week, depends on water, what time I ate the night before, how much sleep I have had etc...sometimes it seems a it random, but over time I have lost nearly three stone... If worried post exactly what you are eating and drinking and see if many one has any tips!
B: egg mayo, 1 rasher bacon, 3 fried mushrooms
L: tuna mayo with cucumber, red pepper, spring onion
S: 1 Babybel, 1 spoon peanut butter (I know, I know!! I will get back to normal now)
Lots of coffee at work (black decaff), now need to get on with drinking water.
I decided the best way to deal with feeling crap was to finally get around to re-dying my hair and a relaxing pampering bath. If that is what it takes to keep me on the straight an narrow i think i can live with this. Peaceful bath is a pure luxury. especially as ds is with his father this weekend so it was completely uninterrupted! Forgot lunch earlier and feeling very under the influence of tom (emotional and generally bloaty/yucky) going to aim for something nice warm and fat loaded for tea. Not sure what yet but will see what inspiration hits
ignores me when i look in the cupboards in a mo.
May you all have good friday nights!
Oohh yes, NameChange I have in fact perfected low carb granola, but I didn't want to own up to it, because BIWI is a bit strict about nuts and it's got nuts.
Who wants the recipe? It's fab stirred into a natural ff yoghurt. IThe carb count of 1 dessert spoon works out to be about 0.5g, so it's nothing really! I let myself have one bowl per day and my weight is going DOWN so it must be ok
Ooh starry can you pm me the recipe please? Thank you
You have to order some Erithrytol (brand name Sukrin) off the internet first, though. Amazon have it.
I wouldn't worry about fluctuating weight. On this WOE, it seems really common to go up a bit, then down a bit, and sometimes down a lot! I've never experienced a weight loss like this in how it is going down, but it is going down.
Am eating fab dinner - adapted the Mark's apple bacon and mushroom risotto with cauliflower rice, and have put asparagus, smoked trout and prawns in instead.
Started off with butter and olive oil to fry grated cauli in and added a splash or two of madiera (no open white wine) to stop it sticking. Oh - and a knorr herb stock pot too. After five minutes I put the asparagus in and after a feworeinutes added fish, prawns and cream, along with the juice of a lemon. Yum yum yum
Ooh - I'd love that recipe Starry!
Ok a bit tmi. Has anyone noticed a difference in their poo colour? Mine is light green!
Also I am eating a lot of salad but not a lot of veg. Does anyone have a creamy sauce recipe I can put over broccoli and cauliflower. Do you think heating cream cheese would work?
Purple, imelt cream cheese and add strong cheddar for cheese sauce.
For fish pie I use crème Fraiche and add cheese
Evening all! Sorry to hear some of you are a bit dispirited. But, as others have pointed out, weight loss isn't linear. It's not uncommon to stay the same for a while and then suddenly drop by 3lbs.
And you're nearly at the end of the strictest part of Bootcamp!
From next week - if you want to - you can add in nuts, berries and (in moderation) alcohol!
Here it is
Starry’s Low Carb Granola
460g mixture of nuts – choose lowest carb varieties: macadamia, pecan, brazil are best; almond and hazelnut are OK.
80g dessicated coconut
80g sesame seeds
5 tbsp erythritol (Sukrin)
2 tsp salt
1/3 cup cold-pressed canola oil
1/3 cup water
Chop nuts into small pieces (preferably by hand as the food processor can pulverise them a bit). Combine all the ingredients. Spread on a large baking sheet and cook at 180 C for 1 h 15 min, stirring every 15 mins, making sure that the edges get pushed to the middle. Sprinkle a few times with erythritol and cinnamon when stirring. Be careful: it can catch and burn quite quickly, so make sure you watch it.
I like a spoonful stirred into my yoghurt. It's a little bit sweet (not very), so it makes it like a pudding. BIWI posted links showing that erythritol is OK both carb and health wise for adults, so I'm comfortable with that ingredient.
A sneaky peek at the scales this morning revealed no change since monday BUT I realised tonight as I was out walking that I feel brilliant. My joints are really loose and I happily swing my arms and do a little
trot. When I am stood up, I am not looking for a wall to lean on like I usually do. There is no stiffness anywhere I can't remember feeling this lively and supple for a long time. I reckon I feel ten years younger. It must be all this butter lubricating me ol' joints....
for the record, had:
B lefover salad and ham n egg pie
L pepperoni, couple of slices of ham
T cabbage, celery, broccoli soup with double cream stirred in
only one small coffee today. And managed to fit into a pair of trousers I'd given up on last summer.....
Hi all, hope everyone is doing ok this Friday, I am resisting the wine also!
B 3 eggs scrambled with a splish of cream
L spring greens fried in butter with baby corn, feta and chilli flakes ( bit odd but was using up end bits)
D low carb "cottage pie" - mince sauce with swede and cheese topping, and wilted spinach
Just remember those who are struggling to measure measure measure. And remember all the health benefits too.
Also if you have started to exercise at the same time as starting to low carb you may not lose weight on the scales as your body may retain water and other stuff to repair your muscles.
This is what happened with me and although I am not running at the moment I know when I get back on it I will put 2-3lbs on. This doesn't mean I am suddenly fat just that my body deals with it slightly differently than someone else.
If you haven't measured yourself up to now, I really would recommend it as it can be a better indicator.
Have succumbed to wine after a stint in A&E with ds2!!
A zip tore across his eye and scratched the cornea. He screamed bloody murder for 2 hours.
He is 8.
No screens or reading or homework for 3 days!!!
He was gutted.....
Ouch. I scratched a cornea a few years ago (no idea how). A day down South on business in increasing agony before going to A&E when I got back. It was the day that the Icelandic banks crashed and the following day I had to fly to Manchester to be interviewed for my own job
I didn't get it and ended up being made redundant
That's one of the reasons why I put on 3 stone
Forgive me Biwi, for I have sinned.
Today, I used last nights extreme lack of sleep as a reason, but actually, it isn't one. There's no excuse.
The only consolation is in the way my body has reacted, violently, to eating crap - it's made me realise once and for all that I want to live this WOE for the rest of my life.
The 'good' food makes me feel like absolute shit, within the space of a few hours - it's just not worth it.
Cider enjoy Dublin!
Betty I had a day like that recently - didn't have time to pack a lunch and ended up in a shitty tesco metro. I bought some president brie and cherry tomatoes - can't go wrong with cheese and tomatoes, imo!
<<hands Twit a grip and a little hug>>
at 'Carby twat today, fat(ter) carby twat tomorrow'! I might have that tattooed on my hand or something!
Rup poor little bugger! I hear a scratched cornea is excruciating. Pretty that sounded painful on many levels!
at Purple's green poos. That doesn't sound right to me!
New hope you enjoyed your pamper bath.
Aaaggahhaaaaagghhh Ruprekt and prettybird
Crabby I did indeed and then went out. Ended up being much later then planned.
BIWI, can we carry on with the stricter rules for longer? I am finding it really good so far, and thought an extra couple of weeks doing it this way might be a good idea.
i even managed to survive enforced work lunches and dinners this week! Thnak god for cheese board dessert options!
Morning! I started properly on Monday after spectacularly leaping off the wagon half way through last week. Each morning I have popped on the scales...I lost a couple of lb on the first couple of days , and a lb a day since. This morning they are showing I've lost 9lb!!! since Monday. Is that really possible?... Is it healthy? I am thrilled, and keep checking to make sure my scales aren't playing tricks!
I'm going to do another strict boot camp week. Firstly because DH only started this week, but also because I had a few slip ups in week one and I want two perfect weeks to get maximum benefit
Recipe sounds great Starry I'm tempted as would be nice with yoghurt! Sukrin is £6.95 plus £2.45 postage on amazon - is that what you paid? I'm assuming 500g goes along way?
Roobot - you can carry on like this if it suits you. Just make sure that you are getting the majority of your carbs from veg and salad.
IBlameThePenguins - it is indeed possible! And it is not something that's unhealthy. You will have lost some water weight, emptied your glycogen stores (which is what won't happen on a low fat/low calorie diet and can account for as much as 7lbs) and a little bit of fat. You won't/can't expect to lose the same amount from here on though - and prepare yourself to see no loss next week after such a big loss this week. But from here on, you will be burning fat. Expect to see a weekly loss of around 1-2lbs per week.
bigkids - sounds like a plan!
....to make matters worse
and is why I remember the date my largest customer was Icelandic and we were in the middle of fulfilling a £12 million contract with them (payment upfront on delivery ).
I then had to spend the next month convincing my own company (including taking a day out of a holiday weekend to Iceland to meet with Icelandic government officials) that they would pay up and we shouldn't cancel the order (given that we'd already started the investment required) and then the next 5 months nursing the order through the system. I couldn't even leave early
as most of my colleagues who were made redundant did as I was deemed essential in the handover.
The Icelanders did pay
and I never got all the commission I was due
Thanks BIWI! It's nice to have a little kick start! I will be very happy to take it slow and steady from here on in... Also nice to have some encouragement to stay strong at DD's Birthday party tomorrow!!
Grand. Think I may add another week or two just to totally get into the groove before i add anythibg sweet (major sweet tooth!)
I'm signing in here now having survived a week.
Unfortunately I had to go out last night and couldn't refuse food. So I had a spoonful of chilli with a plateful of salad and got away with it.
Apart from that, the only cheating I have done is my two cups of coffee with milk per day, so I'm pretty proud of myself. And even prouder that I haven't been tempted to weight - I'm waiting for tomorrow morning.
The sugar cravings haven't gone, though I'm not hungry. But I do have a horrible taste in my mouth atm - almost salty. Is that normal?
Back down to my very pleasing 8lb off, after a blip. Managed to run 5k with less trouble today - I guess my body must have adapted a bit more. When I walked into the kitchen in my all black running gear this morning, dh said to the dc 'Look - mummy just sneaked in looking like a skinny little ninja'. Rofl at the ludicrous exaggeration, but nevertheless. I do feel so much lighter.
Just wondering - am I allowed to post my weekly weigh in on Saturday instead of the Monday?
Saturday's my usual weigh day, I'm too busy running around like a headless chicken on weekdays
What do you all have on the menu today?
I have some lamb shanks marinating in yogurt, garlic, mint, garam masala, chilli and cumin. They're ready to go in the slow cooker with a load of butter on top ready for this evening. I'll have cauliflower rice with it.
Breakfast was eggs poached in spinach with home made mayo and coffee and cream.
Not sure what to have for lunch - salad and tinned sardines possibly.
Up to you when you post Bronx - the spreadsheet is your resource!
Snack before early run: celery with a bit of peanut butter
B: mozzarella and a few cherry tomatoes liberally doused with olive oil
L: Salami and avocado salad with oily dressing
D: Black farmer sausages or pork steaks with roast veg.
I've told my dm and dsis how much weight I've lost lc-ing and they both want to quiz me about the WOE .
Really struggling today. Had a sneak peek on the scales this morning and less than half a lb off. I havent eaten carby stuff for 3 weeks, have been eating ff options for 2 weeks and not had diet coke for over a week and I have only lost 4.9 lb.
Periods do /can make you put a bit of weight on, don't they?! Bit peeved but just started period.
Haven't cheated at all but have needed lempsip to get thru this week. Combination of both?
Purple - Only?! Let's round it up to 5lbs, and that's 10 packs of lard! How much were you expecting you should lose?
tenement - Lemsip has sugar in it, does it not?
I know its a fair bit biwi but I was hoping for a bit more. I think it feels worse as I lost 3.4lb in the first few days then nothing for 8 days then only a lb the next week. I think I was hoping being strict on bootcamp, starting to eat meat and giving up diet coke would have more of a difference. Hoping for a drop in weight before Monday as I know it can fluctuate. I don't know what else I can do. I've pretty much resigned myself to not getting to my holiday goal weight. I will just have to play the long game. I still have just over a stone to lose. Hope to get that off before Christmas.
Purple - youve cracked your addiction to coke and sweet things, you've eaten healthier than you've eaten in years, - and it is always said that 1-2lb per week loss is sustainable. You haven't seen the huge losses that others have, because you don't have so much to lose - and it's not a quick fix. Keep going and it will come off.
Thanks I will keep going. I'm not known for my patience!! Im ok most of the time. Im just having a down day.
DP has just lifted me over his shoulder, fireman style. Not something that would have been possible a few months ago!
30lbs + lighter!!
30lb?! Bloody hell, Tot! Well done you.
fuckity fuck fuck
I have been so careful and then gone and blown it accidentally. I bought a 75cl bottle of volvic flavoured water for the sports bottle (very true it makes drinking easier) then downed it and another today (neede new bottle at work). Just read the bottle and the fucker is 12g carb per 25cl. 36 crappy stupid carbs two days running. I am so pissed off at my stupid mistake. I stupidly assumed that it was sugarfree flavour.
Please someone tell me that I have not lost all my ketosis and started absorbing all the fats I have eaten in the last 48 hours.....
Tots - well done!
Whodunit - gah, that's how the carbs have crept in all along.
whodunnit - oh bugger
Never mind. These things do happen to all of us, I'm afraid.
If you've been following Bootcamp rules apart from that, then your carbs per day should still be low enough to allow you to be losing weight. Honestly!
Just be super strict for the next couple of days and you should be fine.
I have just narrowly avoided making dumplings to go with our pigs' cheek stew! DH talked me down. I don't know what came over me.
Well done crabby's DH!!!
We had butter chicken from IPD - it had to be my favourite meal ever!!!
Daisychicken - yes that's what I paid on Amazon. It's expensive, but it should last for ages. After all we're not using it all the time as some kind of constant sugar substitute - it's just an ingredient in a one-off item.
I've been tutoring on a course all day today. The provided lunch was pasta bake, bread rolls, green salad on the table, and trifle for pudding. All I ate was a plateful of lettuce and a spoonful of grated cheese There was no other option! I thought it would be a buffet and so I would have options, but no. And morning and afternoon tea was biscuits and cakes, so that was a no-go zone, too, of course.
I've just got home and I must confess, today I am a bit hungry. So I look in the fridge for a snack and DH has eaten all my FF yoghurt while I've been out. That's not fair!!! He can have whatever he likes for a snack, but he pinched mine! I've got some nice chicken thighs in the oven now, though. Hope they're cooked soon! At least I managed to resist the temptations at work (the food looked nice)... hope it shows on Monday.
Ah well I live and learn. Will drop the lemsip but I need the cough mixture. Am keeping to all the other rules so will have to take the hit this week.
Folks, I'm not really doing so well. Having lost a stone since the end of March, and then done bootcamp lite all summer, I seem to be doing that self sabotaging thing when it comes to having to buckle down and starting bootcamp proper.
If you don't mind, I will continue to lurk and post my weight on a weekly basis, but I feel a bit of a fraud posting regularly without fessing up that I haven't really managed to start bootcamp properly.
I have to say though, well done to all who are doing so well.
I'm struggling today too Beryl.
I think the weekend is harder - during the week when I'm fully occupied and then knackered in the evening I don't have time to think about food.
And I also don't have to sit and watch the kids eat it
I am cooking roast pork tomorrow, and I am going to each all the crackling myself. The whole lot. The
ravenous hordes kids can bugger off and have some roast potatoes instead.
I agree weekends are much harder to control.
DP just cooked an amazingly delicious spicy steak, mushroom and cheese melt thing though - was lovely.
Wow Starry you are showing iron willpower there!
What is it that trips you up Beryl?
I hope we all have good losses soon (or maybe in time for Monday!!)
I think having teenagers is a real block to trying to follow any sort of sensible eating plan.
Today ds1 has eaten: four sausages with scrambled egg (with peppers, mushrooms, spinach and tomatoes) on half a loaf of brown bread, followed by stir fry beef and veg and rice. Followed by tuna salad (two tins of tuna, one of sweetcorn, half a cucumber and loads of mayo).
For dinner he has had two bowls of my (healthy low-carb) stew, with a bowl of rice.
As a snack mid afternoon he had two litres of milk and half a packet of mini-crunchies.
He is now scrounging for something to fill him up before he goes out.
He is underweight.
LIFE IS FUCKING UNFAIR.
It's not so much weekends, and I'm not being a carby twat, it's just that I find it hard to go from bootcamp lite to bootcamp proper. Berries, diary (esp cream) and alcohol are my vices, and it is telling that I have stayed exactly the same weight for what seems like months and months. I know I will have to give them up if I truly want to lose more weight (which I do, I really do). I think it is a matter of me having to get a grip. Maybe I need to plan a few days ultra BC to get things moving for me.
Anyhow, I don't want to derail others by talking about my weaknesses. This WOE is fab, it really is. BIWI and Willie. You are amazing.
starry it really fucks me off when they do that on courses/at meetings... and they wonder why everyone suffers an afternoon slump when they feed them full of carby shite like that! Well done for resisting though - I wouldn't have managed it as I have to eat something more than lettuce to take my tablets with otherwise my blood sugar crashes.
I'm in a foul mood and trying to resist the cider and chocolate that the ILs bought me...
Biwi can we just stay on this bootcamp instead of lite after Monday if we like?
Can someone quickly summarise what extra we can have when we
eventually finish the two week BootCamp, thanks.
Same as tenement, do we need to start eating differently or can we stay on bootcp? I've not found if too hard, aside from the wine.
What would the benefits of staying on it be v changing?
If you want to stay on Bootcamp you can do - as long as you promise me that you will get your carbs mainly from veg and salad!
Maryz - you will be able to add some fruit (berries) and nuts/seeds, as well as alcohol (in moderation)
Beryl I feel your pain! Are you gaining weight though? Are you enjoying what you're eating? I think sometimes you just need to take a step back and relax about everything. I absolutely get how hard it can be sometimes. Even if you want to do something, rationally, it can be impossible to just get your arse into gear to do it.
Oh, goodie. Strawberries and cream sounds nice.
What is moderation?
Instead of a glass of white wine a night, can I save it all up and get blathered? [hopeful]
Ultimately that's up to you - sadly!
Be warned that in weeks 3 and 4 (sometimes 5) it is very common for weight loss to stop altogether. And if you add into that a relaxation on the carb front, it can be a bit of a recipe for disaster.
So moderation is exactly that - it isn't carte blanche to fall face first into a heap of fruit, with a vodka chaser!
Re alcohol, you are much better off restricting it to the weekend, if you can. That will (hopefully) ensure that during the rest of the time your body is burning fat for fuel, rather than alcohol.
You will probably find that without the carbs you get blathered rather more quickly than you expected.
Yes, I think I might try to do a bit of a combination. So strict boot camp during the week for a few extra weeks - I have found it no problem at all during the week.
And then add in the fruit and a couple of glasses of wine on a Saturday night, just to have something to look forward to.
I just hope the sugar cravings wear off. I wanted to lick ds's crunchie papers
Biwi thanks for the understanding - no, I haven't gained any weight at all, so I think I have found my perfect equilibrium - the only thing is that the equilibrium is at a much higher weight than I would like
We went out with friends last night, and when we got home, DH told me that I was the thinnest person at our table (bless him, it was all relative though). I feel good, and have got to the stage where I don't feel self loathing if I see a photo.
I have a couple of busy weeks ahead - off on a work trip this week, and have a formal this weekend. Then off the following week to visit my (LC friendly) sister.
I suppose what I need to do is get my arse in gear to do BC proper for the days in between, and recognise there may be some wine on those occasions - it doesn't mean I have to quaff a load of wine / eat berries with cream very day though.
Too many posts to comment on:
Prettybird sounds like a v exciting job you had
Maryz don't have teenagers yet - not looking forward to when mine start - have you a second mortgage to feed them?
Crabby I have a theory that any food stuff that contains the letter K is usually an off-cut - cheek, brisket, knuckle, shank. Except of course, cake.
B: egg mayo, bacon, wilted spinach
L: bacon and egg
D: tandoori chicken with salad (Indian takeaway but no sauces or rice or naan)
S: Babybel cheese, cold bacon
My sustainable way of eating is to bootcamp during the week and bootcamp very light at the weekends
I have maintained over summer hols which am chuffed about. That's my maintenance though and if I want to lose weight I have to get strict again.
Purple I know I sound like a broken record but measure yourself from now on. Also sometimes you can just have a whoosh when you are least expecting it. You have to think how you feel and what fantastic good you can eat on this woe that you have had to deprive yourself of on low fat/low cal diets.
I love mushrooms fried in butter!! Could eat them
At most meals
Not really had a chance to catch up properly but I've had 4 (small) glass of red wine over the weekend. I was feeling quite slim so am a bit worried about weigh in tomorrow.
I measured myself at the end of july. 4 weeks later I was 3 inches down on my waist. Yesterday I measured my waist again and I was 7 inches down. So I know I have lost inches.
A few years ago I was 3 stone heavier than I am now. Still just over a stone to go. So I guess it is going to be slower now. Still hoping for that whoosh of weight loss in the next couple of weeks though.
Ok I know I should have measured, and that fluctuations are normal, but how, HOW can I possibly have been 10 and a half st yesterday and am back up to 11st this morning?! And that's with no cheating.
Thanks for all the msgs over DS2. He is currently watching tv with sunglasses on!
L...scram eggs with butter and bacon
D...avocado with prawns. (45p for av and 59p prawns)
Pigs cheeks (£2) which cooked for 5 hours and melted in the mouth with celeriac mash (30p)
A fabulous and cheap and low carb dinner!
Rup have you been taking advantage of the 20% off on the meat counter offer at Waitrose? We had slow cooked pigs' cheeks last night too and they were delicious! DP based it on a tapa we had in Seville a couple of years ago and we had them with buttery swede mash and roasted broccoli.
DP (he is partner rather than husband, btw, it's just that the P key doesn't work on my laptop keyboard so I have to c&p my Ps (and question marks!). I can't be arsed to go and find a capital P to c&p so he gets promoted to DH on the laptop and put back in his rightful role on the ipad. MrsHP you are always MrsH on the laptop. ) managed to persuade me that dumplings wouldn't even go with the dish and that I should confine my sinning to drinking red wine, thus enabling him to drink too. I'd got as far as calculating the carb count of various permutations of dumpling - he pulled me back from the brink!
I'm liking the cake as a healthy, cheap offcut idea... or am I wilfully misconstruing that?
Maryz at the amount of food your DS eats!!
Pretty you should have scratched the cornea of the person who didn't pay you the commission you were owed - see how they liked it!
I agree that weekends are way, way harder, especially with drinking. I'd really got into the groove of not drinking and stopped even considering it as a option during the week, but at weekends DP, who works hard at a job he doesn't enjoy,
enabling me to sit on my fat arse much of the time! likes to eat good food and drink good wine. When I don't drink he drinks much less, which is good for us both health-wise but I've definitely noticed him encouraging me to drink this weekend and when I did last night he was noticeably more relaxed and cheerful. Not quite sure what to do about that, really.
I was part of an event in our local high street yesterday and was ravenous by the time we finsihed. It really brought home to me how un-carb-friendly most shops are. We got a cuppa from Costa... full of paninis, cakes, pastries. I bought DD a sandwich from boots... food section full of sandwiches, wraps, crisps, low fat yoghurts with granola, fruit juices etc. There was nothing to eat at all. DD had been a star all morning, really participating in what we were doing (she put the town mayor - not a small man - in the recovery position!) and then she convinced me to let her go to the sweet shop as a reward. Within 20 mins she'd turned into a hyper nightmare, interrupting, mucking about, silly and inappropriate behaviour. It was a timely reminder as to why I've cut sugar almost entirely out of her diet!
Right, I'm full of good intentions about not drinking wine with our roast dinner tonight. Reckon I can hold that thought beyond 6pm?
B - greek yoghurt with clotted cream and vanilla
L - courgette and tomatoes with h/m pesto
D - braised pigs' cheeks with mashed buttery swede and roasted broccoli.
Loads of water. Red wine.
It's probably just water Holmes.
Would spritzers be an option Crabby? Then you could keep DP company without drinking too much.
Went round to friend's last night for a girls night and she said she'd do some food. Which I thought meant picky bits all evening. So I had lovely sirloin steak with creamed leeks & cabbage before I went to make sure I wasn't so hungry. Plan failed because a) it filled me up so much I was absolutely stuffed - shows how my appetite has changed in a fortnight - and b) shed done a 3 course sit down dinner....
Fortunately I got away with fried halloumi to start, leaving the pitta bread, red pepper houmous and taramasalata. Main course was a bit trickier cos shed made bobotie and put it on the plates in give kitchen (south African spiced mince with dried fruit and milk/egg on top - some recipes include breadcrumbs but I couldn't ask her if she'd put any in cos I was being rude enough having turned up already eaten). I left the cous cous and had some salad leaves with it. Pudding was a delicious flour less chocolate cake with alcoholic cream - I managed to only have the tiniest Taste of each on the end of a teaspoon. All I can say it was a good job I was do completely stuffed by then as I don't think I'd have been able to resist otherwise.
holmes - you can't possibly have put half a stone on overnight!
Have you got a bit of water retention going on? Are you coming up to your period?
Are you drinking enough water?
And - is the battery in your scales on the way out?
Mmmm Crabby you eat well, its good inspiration. (ie - double cream is a bit light... lets put clotted cream in the yogurt! Go girl!)
Beryl you aren't really slipping - you're doing perfect bootcamp light. I did that (ie, eating strawberries/raspberries) all summer and gradually made my way downwards. Maybe concentrate on cutting the alcohol but leave the rest as it is? (I haven't been drinking at all for months - not allowed to due to medication)
I felt so "heavy" this morning I nearly didn't weigh. But did in the end (after breakfast too) and I was actually down on yesterday, and 0.2lb down on last Monday. So this week I have fluctuated over a 3-4lb range. If your weekly weigh in happens to coincide with the top of a fluctuation then you're not to know - but its not necessarily bad news.
I wonder whether our bodies know its autumn, nights are drawing in, and think "better make sure we've got enough fat supplies for the winter"? Are we all working against a seasonal hormonal effect (and therefore doing really well!)?
Anyway its best to think long term on this WOE. Since May I have lost all my back-fat (Gone! Yay! but it took months), gone down a bra back-size and cup-size, gone down one or two clothing sizes depending on the shop. Pretty amazing really.
Should have said Crabby.....I got 20 pigs cheeks for £2!!!!
I only eat Waitrose reduced food!!
Got a bit of a dodgy stomach today so going to find it a struggle to eat 3 meals. Hoping it won't stall any weight loss.
Sorry to hear that, Purple
Don't force yourself to eat if you're not feeling great.
Nightmare day yesterday with my food in the control of others
read carby twats So mainlining the water and hoping that I can have control back for the forseeable. I might have to become entirely unsocial and tell the un helpful people to sod off. It is unbelievable how we have all be conditioned into comfort eating. Industry has really managed a complete social headfuck with that one.
B: 3 lc sausages, 2 pieces bacon, and 2 eggs scrambled.
3x coffee with milk and sweetners + 1 decaff coffee with milk and sweetner
2ltrs water so far and potential for a lot more.
About to go get some lunch. No idea what but lots of options so will see what i fancy.
Hope you feel better soon purple
Thanks girls. Tried to eat lunch but couldn't. Normally I would eat toast or something like that when feeling like this. I will just have to do nothing all day and get an early night.
I just tried entering my food on myfitnesspal. Ignoring their dietary advice (eat 165g carbs!!) and the red cross criticism of my fat and protein intake, I do have one question. It also says my calorie intake (less than 1000 yesterday and probably today) is too low and "risks putting my body into starvation mode and slowing my metabolism". Is this right? Should I eat more? I'm not actually hungry with this WOE, so it's not that I'm trying to keep the cals down.
Eg of today's expected eating
B scrambled eggs
L FF yog with my special low carb granola
D 2 chicken thighs, cauliflower rice, sauteed courgette
I've got a cold and feel awful, so just don't really want to eat.
Don't forget to keep your fluids up as well, Purple
starry - that would suggest that you're not eating enough fat!
Sorry you're feeling poorly as well
<backs away from lurgified people>
Eek! In the midst of starting a new job, I forgot about bootcamp starting on the 9th even though I'd put my name down. Am I too late to join in??
It really is impossible to buy low-carb snacks isn't it?
I wasn't really aware before, but I went into a small shop on Friday and there wasn't a single thing in the shop that I could have bought. Apart from one small section of the fridge that had cheddar cheese and "picnic ham" which wasn't really ham at all. There were a few tired apples, and everything else was bread/biscuit/crips/chocolate/sweets.
It makes things very difficult. I've been talking to dd about eating, but when she goes out (as teenagers do), there is simply no option but carbs. Anywhere they go - Pizza Hut, Nandos, Chinese, any fast-food restaurant has NO low-carb option at all.
So unless she is prepared to embarrass herself completely and carry around a lunch box of meat and salad, she's fucked, really . Every time she goes out she either has to eat with the skinny kids, or announce to the world that she is fat. It's very sad.
Never too late, Pink - I was a week late, better late than never I think. And it's quite useful to read the threads a week behind, as you can see people start out struggling a bit and then find solutions.
Agree about lack of non-carby stuff being a complete pain. This morning, I rushed to get train back to London and didn't have time for breakfast (or planning anything) at MILs. Had Virgin first class seats (one of those strange cheaper than standard fare deals) and I thought we may get some kind of BAB thrown in (you do apparently mid-week) so I'd be okay with eggs and bacon BUT the free bagged snack was:
croissant with jam, a chocolate bar (blue riband – thought they didn't even exist any more), a shortbread biscuit, orange juice and a bag of crisps!) so NOTHING I could eat and no other options or anything I could buy that was low-carb in the on-board shop. God, sound ungrateful but still.... Anyway, I drank two black coffees and managed to last the scoffed a Pret's Salad Nicoise at Euston before heading home.
Not easy sometimes is it?
Incidentally, as a long-time black coffee drinker (I've never liked milk), I had a revelation out for dinner last night when, instead of dessert, I ordered coffee with a cream floater (sounds worrying but I was up north and this is normal parlance) so I had something when the others were tucking into tiramisu, brownies, etc. It was GORGEOUS! And it came in one of those retro glasses with a handle which for some reason pleased me no end.
Keep at it everyone and let's hope the scales of truth are kind to us.
Wishing those unwell better, too