Week 5 - summer low carb bootcamp

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Right chaps, while BIWI is drinking prosecco in sunny Italy away being busy and important, I'm your supply teacher for the next couple of days. BIWI has given me temporary responsibility for the Big Stick, so no messing about at the back there!

Well done on getting to week five, it's not easy and despite the fab support on here you've done this yourself, so remember how far you've come.

Please record your weight on the spreadsheet and marvel at your progress!

Temptations will come along, especially over bank holidays and half term treats, but remember that you're doing this for yourself, so be kind to yourself by not giving in to the temptation from things that do you harm and risk derailing you, as every time you look after yourself in this way it get easier. If you have a wobble, post on here - we'll remind you of all the tasty things you can have instead and why.

Have a lovely week!

BlackAffronted Sun 26-May-13 19:08:50

My poverty is over & I have been out & stocked up on oads of LC food, so ready to get back into it 100%!

sybilfaulty Sun 26-May-13 19:12:58

Thanks Willie. I am away on hols right now so can't weigh but am sticking to the straight and narrow on food, although I am enjoying a gin or two in the evening. I had the best lunch of salmon, prawns, crab , tuna and mackerel with salad. Gave bread to the kids and felt both full and virtuous. Even if I maintain this week, I just love the food.

Thanks wilie for being our leader whilst BIWI does wine and antipasti and enjoy the half term y'all.

Hi! I'm on my way back from a weekend of naughtiness with a bucket o' water and some almonds and back on the wagon. I'll weigh on Tue this week as I can't get to the gym tomorrow. grr. 3 days with no gym is making me antsy!

maidofmuss Sun 26-May-13 19:38:33

Thanks willie - have put in this morning's weight (same as last week) as away from this eve and won't be logging in for few days. Eating up leftovers so truly odd day's worth of food today
B two scrambled eggs, least wilted stick of celery in sad bunch lurking back of fridge, large raw mushroom
L roast beef slices with horseradish wrapped round asparagus (my taste buds must have changed as my usual quantity of horseradish nearly blew my head off)
D cauliflower cheese, smoked mackerel fillets, remaining home-made coleslaw (NOT a good combination, trust me).
I shall try not to puke in the car...

decaffwithcream Sun 26-May-13 19:44:18

Week 5!

That big stick will come in well handy tomorrow morning Willie when someone invariably messes up the spreadsheet while inputting their weight

B- Small cup lidl yoghurt, Lidl low-carb sausages with avacado and mayo
L - Chicken and avacado on leaves with olive oil and mayo & a pine nut/blue cheese garnish
D- Asparagus, chestnut mushrooms and shallot omlette with small sprinkle grated cheese
S - 2 decaff black espressos

Trying to use cheese as a garnish instead of an ingredient.

MrsCoyote Sun 26-May-13 19:49:00

Hi everybody, I am so curious about my weight tomorrow. I didn't fail in this week (it's week 1 for me) ... but the amount of food worries me.

Lots of snacks (boredom mainly, I am home with kids who have cold), approved food, but! half of Philly cheese, about 150 ml double cream, leftover chicken inbetween meals blush
Why I do this?

newlark Sun 26-May-13 20:06:41

Mrs Coyote - your body is adjusting - I found I was eating lots of snacks the first week - partly from hunger partly from habit but then realised in week 2 that I was actually feeling less hungry and was quite often able to go from one meal to the next without a snack. I have a cup of herbal tea sometimes as a snack avoidance tactic.

Marking place!

ZimboMum Sun 26-May-13 21:24:12

Marking place.

timidviper Sun 26-May-13 22:27:46

Willie I think I have been archived as I have vanished from the spreadsheet while I've been away on holiday. Could you put me back please? I have one weight to add from before I went away but will have 2 blank weeks as I can't face the scales just yet blush

HeirToTheIronThrone Sun 26-May-13 23:11:27

Hmm, probably too much gin tonight.....

TreeLuLa Mon 27-May-13 06:26:05

OK, 2 lbs down on last week despite falling face first into a bottle of white wine last night.

Reminded me though why I enjoy not drinking - not a good night's sleep and this morning I feel a bit bleugh.

Lovely shiny new spreadsheet!

Away from the scales, so have put myself as STS - but I feel smaller!

AngieAir Mon 27-May-13 07:36:04

STS for me. Wil need to be very strict over the next fortnight as have a lot of social events involving eating out or being cooked for.

Even picking the salads, meat and sauce etc I suspect extra sugar gets sneaked in somewhere.

My courgette lasagne was delicious smile

EwanHoozami Mon 27-May-13 07:58:35

Mooooooorning campers.

Thanks for the new thread Willie, excellent advice to post if you're having a wobble. We will talk you down!

If you've been following the rules strictly enough you should be feeling cracking this week. There are so many benefits to this WOE that start to become evident around this far in.

My energy levels are really stable throughout the day and I'm sleeping loads better.

My skin is clearer and my nails are growing without breaking.

I've made friends with my local butcher grin

Morning all. Down to 14 8 which is a loss of 3lbs this week. A bit disappointed as last weeks weigh in was high due to a night on wine and then having some carbs that night on the Saturday. That came off really quickly but I reckon only a pound extra. And I have been so good since. Not a drop of alcohol has passed my lips. I was 14 8 on Friday so have lost nothing over the weekend. Really wanted to get to 14 7.

All in all I have lost 6lbs since I started on 24 April. I think I would have lost more if I had stuck to weight watchers and cut out the alcohol.

Feeling very demoralised! I will keep going this week and see what next Monday brings. I don't think I have been drinking enough water so will rectify that.

Doshusallie Mon 27-May-13 08:22:35

You may or may not have lost more on ww buda - but you have to weigh, count points, eat plastic low fat food and generally feel deprived. You will lose more weight on this woe and thoroughly enjoy the process.

We had a big family tea last night - my sister is on ww and had no cauliflower because it had cheese on it, no skin on her chicken, and no wine. I had a huge pile of chicken with skin, big lump of cauliflower cheese, red wine and cheese for afters. (I am in maintenance). She has to save all her points up for a glass of wine when she got home and had to count everything she was eating. She also ran 8km in the morning and is running another 9 today. I am all for exercise but my point is that I can maintain whilst exercising once or twice a week these days rather than being the obsessive gym bunny I had to be to maintain on a low fat woe.

sybilfaulty Mon 27-May-13 08:27:29

Morning all

Could a kind person record me as STS this week please? I am on hols so can't weigh.

Buda, sorry you are disappointed. This is an odd diet as the weightloss is not linear and does noit always accord with what you have eaten. Do you feel slimmer? Are your clothes any looser? Keep on keeping on as it will work. It just takes a while sometimes for it to show on the scales. Can you have a treat like LC breakfast to cheer you and remind you how yum this WOE is?

QueenofDreams Mon 27-May-13 09:01:52

Hey can I be added back onto the spreadsheet please?

Carbs went out the window yesterday. Throat is on fire, and had loads of throat sweets.

cathyandclaire Mon 27-May-13 09:03:44

Hi all, well done losers! RL has been keeping me off the computer but just weighed in and wooooo....back to target grin so I'm maintaining with you Dosh

Buda don't get disheartened, 3lb off is fab, sloosh down a load of water today and you'll probably have a big woosh of weight off.

Enjoy the sun everyone smile

B: Bacon and leek frittata
L: Burger on BBQ with coleslaw
S:Chicken caesar salad ( no croutons)

Thanks for encouragement guys. I DO feel a lot slimmer and have lots of energy. Just desperately wanted to see 14 7 on the scales!

Have just had two cold sausages and some Greek yoghurt for breakfast.

And queenofDreams you have just reminded me of something. I have a horrible cold and have taken Benylin a few times as cough is so bad. The sugary one. So that could well have made a difference.

Will carry on. Haven't got a weekend gain to shift this week so next week should show a decent loss.

And I am wearing new size 18 trousers.

Off to clear my bedroom out so decorator can get started.

MrsCoyote Mon 27-May-13 09:46:58

Newlark - thank you for the encouragement. I hope I will be able to stop snacking as you did.

I am very happy - despite of lots of food, snacks (LC thought), fats, cream, mayo...
I am 5 pounds down smilesmilesmile

couch25cakes Mon 27-May-13 09:52:22

My first week resulted in a 5lb loss, which I am really pleased with.

sammisatt Mon 27-May-13 10:19:56

Been totally naughty this weekend but it was my fortieth birthday. Posh Chocolate on Friday, all day drinking on Saturday ( my b'day) and no food, then yesterday was shocking. Went for a six course meal at the waterside inn in Bray and then because I was so shockingly hungover, had a bag of chips and a slice of chocolate birthday cake for tea. Back to reality today. I'm starving, chewing at the bit for carbs but am back on track.

STS but pleased as I went to the races, drank cider then ate carbs all the next day and have had to work hard to get back in the zone. For me carbs are just so addictive I really can't have them.

Bessie123 Mon 27-May-13 10:30:09

I am going to weigh tomorrow because I have spent the last fortnight eating carbs and drinking wine and have put on 4 lbs blush. I am hoping that a day of being good might at least get rid of one of the pounds... I am so lame...

snowballinashoebox Mon 27-May-13 11:07:34

Not feeling so bad that I ate some rhubarb crumble now, I did drown it in clotted cream though.

I am sort of sts but did loose 10lbs in the first 2 weeks so reckon my body is just getting over the shock and having a little think about life the universe and everything.

could you add me back onto the spreadsheet please? After my confession on last week's thread, I'm back, and focused (albeit 7 pounds up sad). But a lot of that should go this week as my water intake is now acceptable rather than minimal, plus I'm adding in 30 minutes brisk walking a day.
L: not sure yet
D: morroccan chicken and roasted veg (+ couscous for the rest of the family)
S: babybel
water: lots

newlark Mon 27-May-13 12:40:05

I am up 2lbs this week (-7 overall) but have had a couple of moderately carby meals out at events where there was no choice - back on straight and narrow this week smile

I think I've reinstated everyone who needs to be. Sorry for radio silence - I'm having a day out in London!

lapetitedame Mon 27-May-13 13:10:52

Well a long weekend away turned into a week long holiday with too much carbs and wine. Haven't weighed but suspect I'm up so will record weight as same and get uber-camping.

For those of you who have reached target and are maintaining....talk to us about how good you feel and how you find maintenance....seeking some motivational stories as after a holiday is when I'm at weakest up with 'whats the point' type feelings and I end up giving up sad

nappyaddict Mon 27-May-13 13:44:55

Does anyone know if Asda still sell their Extra Special 97% Gluten Free Sausages? I have looked in 3 stores now and can't find them but apparently they only have trace carbs.

nappyaddict Mon 27-May-13 13:46:19

These are the ones.

cathyandclaire Mon 27-May-13 14:14:37

lapetitedame I've been LCIng since August and this WOE has been a revelation for me! I'm short and small boned so my maintenance calories were miserably low, getting/ staying slim was a constant battle. Holidays were depressing cos I always gained loads of weight and bulged out of my clothes in the second week.
After a period of bootcamp ( probably several weeks tbh ) I stopped even missing bread/ cake/ pasta and it was ALL I ate before, I eat so much. More veg and salad and have proper meals instead of toast, scone, crisps.
Now I'm maintaining I generally stick to low carb but I have wine, dark chocolate and nuts and milky coffee... on my last holiday I had many sugar free mojitos. I'll plan and enjoy a carby cheat for fab meals out but I'm definitely not bingey like I used to be.
Keep at it , I am a definite BIWi disciple!!!!!

Leverette Mon 27-May-13 14:21:15

I am right peed off I am.

Having initially lost 4lb/wk in first fortnight, I have gained over the subsequent two weeks - and I haven't cheated, honestly! Or started lifting massive weights smile

The only thing I can think of is perhaps not getting enough water...I've measured a glass and realised I should be drinking 10/day, which I definitely haven't.

B: omelette with two eggs fried in butter with a few slices of cheese plus half a can chopped tomatoes (6g carbs) with olive oil glugged in
L: two smoked mackerel fillets fried in butter with a whole chopped cucumber
D: will be chicken pieces, mushrooms and garlic fried in butter with double cream stirred in, buttered greens on the side

NewStartNewStory Mon 27-May-13 14:33:21

Water makes a huge difference for me Leverette. Never lose when not drinking enough.

I am tinkering away in the back ground trying to reduce influencing factors. I am eating again and slowly trying to get fully back on track. Veg is my focus this week. Been really bad so need to increase the amount i eat of them again.

ChippingInWiredOnCoffee Mon 27-May-13 14:44:01

Down just over a lb this week, which isn't fab but I've had my period and not STS so I'm happy enough with that.

Down 32lb (14.5kg) since the end of Jan. Still loads to go.

Leverette I am sure you aren't cheating smile However, maybe there are some small things that are derailing you that you don't realise aren't great?? (A lot of people can't eat tomatoes for example, any dairy stops some people losing ...things like that).

ChippingInWiredOnCoffee Mon 27-May-13 14:47:05

I seem to lose more when I'm getting enough protein (a bit of a battle as a non egg eating vegetarian low carbing - sigh) and enough oil (rather than other fat). So I try to remember to put olive oil on my salad (even though I'd rather not) and really ramp up the protein.

I don't know how much difference water makes for me, but I try to get 2l down every day, though I don't always do so well... probably my major downfall.

Ilisten2theradio Mon 27-May-13 15:40:03

Well after posting last wek that I was having a rubbish week, I reined in some of the excesses and have lost a little - its only .75lb but better than last weeks STS.
I have just been shopping for low carb stuff today and now have swede again as a potato subsitute so that should help too.
Note to self. Must drink more - and goes off to get a glass of water.
I am really thirsty as have been gardening in the sun and its very windy out there - more dehydrating than you think as it doesn't feel that warm.

leverette water makes a massive difference to me too.

List everything that passed your lips for the last three days and see if we can help...

QueenofDreams Mon 27-May-13 15:55:40

Ok breakfast was bacon, scrambled eggs and fried mushrooms

Just ate half an avocado with a squeeze of lemon juice.

Also had one throat sweet today, trying to avoid having any more.

middleagedspread Mon 27-May-13 16:01:28

blush I fell off the wagon last night. it started with Rose & ended with Thorntons choc. I'll spare you the in-between, surface to say I'm back on today.

Leverette Mon 27-May-13 16:18:19

Suspect I'm getting through more cheese than is ideal, will cut that back a bit and see if it helps.

Was HUGE carb addict and have been massively surprised to have come this far reasonably comfortably, and have definitely lost some abdo area flab which is great (I'm kind of stick arms and legs with a gut, like a 3yo drawing blush aim to be inwardly curving rather than outwards grin

Time for a drink of water!

Leverette Mon 27-May-13 16:19:09

Oh that's mean, reminding me that Thorntons chocolate exists grin

middleagedspread Mon 27-May-13 16:31:17

Leverette the chocolate tasted wonderful but it wasn't worth it for the guilty feelings afterwards. I wish I hadn't wink

ChippingInWiredOnCoffee Mon 27-May-13 16:37:48

Leverette - good move to give the cheese a miss and see how you go. I don't know how much it affects me, all I know is that I'm still losing and I can't eat low carb without cheese (vegetarian, no eggs - it's hard enough with cheese!) but if I ate meat I'd stop the dairy for a bit to see.

Thorntons chocolates are horrible anyway grin

NewStartNewStory Mon 27-May-13 17:26:43

I made the mistake of reading the ingrediants once. Was horrified. Mind you i do generally find the ingrediants list of anything pre-made is pretty horrifying.

I have made a potatoe thing for the carb eaters. I don't actually want it. It used to be one of my favourites. Not been brave enough to stand on the scales. Don't expect to see a loss this week but clothes are starting to get a tiny bit loser again. Which is either a good or a bad thing depending on how you view clothes shopping. Need something for a wedding in a few weeks but don't want or have the budget to spend a lot, especially on something I intend to shrink out of before september.

WhyIRayLiotta Mon 27-May-13 17:44:07

2lbs off this week... I really want to lose 1lb more before the weekend (as I am going away with friends) To have me at 12 and a half stone.

BerylStreep Mon 27-May-13 17:50:12

I didn't weigh myself this morning, but will do tomorrow. I suspect I may be the same as last week. Have had non-stop parties this month (5 birthdays, 1 anniversary, 1 fashion show, 1 meal out with friends) and I am pretty pleased that I have managed to stick to the lc, although a fair amount of drink has been consumed.

kiwigirl42 Mon 27-May-13 18:15:56

well done all those who have lost weight. Will weigh myself tomorrow morning. Have eaten a lot yesterday and today - balances out my 2 days of not eating very much during the week!

Have had a couple of lovely rump steaks this week. What is your favorite steak cut (and don't say fillet, it ain't happening)?

nappyaddict Mon 27-May-13 18:16:48

NSNS Why don't you have a look on Ebay or in charity shops? Then when you shrink out of it you can hopefully sell it on for the same as what you paid? I got a gorgeous dress for a wedding from a charity shop for about £4 and it was out of one of the designer ranges at Debenhams.

QueenofDreams Mon 27-May-13 18:41:38

My favourite steak is rib eye. It's delicious and tender. Yum!

Tigglette Mon 27-May-13 19:37:53

I've stayed the same again this week - no surprise really, it's was my birthday last week and I've also had some work stresses which landed me in a bottle of wine (or two). Back on it those week though and hoping not to make it three weeks STS in a row!

Well done to everyone managing to lose - brilliant work!

CrabbyBigBottom Mon 27-May-13 19:45:03

Oh dear oh dear oh dear. blush I'm not finding it very easy to climb back on the low carb wagon. I've scrapped today as it's a total lost cause - there are opened bottles of white wine, red wine, dessert wine, madiera all over the house, and leftovers of various delicious things littering every surface. I am absolutely not sufficiently strong to resist, but I don't want to get into the 'well I can't start afresh until I've finished x y z'. hmm

Our meal last night (my b'day) was actually pretty good in a low carb sense - pot roast guineafowl with white beans and chorizo, served with cabbage and bacon. Only the beans are verboten and they're still nutritious and low GI. Did pea and mint soup to start which was bloody lovely, and molten chocolate baby cakes, which are downright sinful, to finish.

Saturday evening was a load of tapas, some of which were fine and others less so (Spanish tortilla was lovely but the spuds and onions are very naughty). These were bloody lovely though, and actually fine for low carbing:

- Scallops in their shell, removed, seared on a griddle and replaced into shell, with slices of chorizo piled around.

- Chunks of chicken cooked in olive oil with lots of garlic and a very generous amount of sherry.

- Wild mushrooms (dried porcini from sainsburys, bulked up with some chestnut mushies) sauted gently in butter and garlic and then served with a raw egg yolk in the middle, which you mix quickly in to form a 'sauce' that just tastes really subtle and creamy.

Food as good as you'd get in a fancy restaurant, for a fraction of that price. Recipes taken or adapted from Rick Stein's 'Spain' book, as is the guinea fowl recipe. If only I hadn't disgraced myself with lots of bread dipped in olive oil hmm then I wouldn't be dreading the weigh-in tomorrow so much. This morning fully intended just to have the bacon, eggs and tomatoes of the fry-up, but when I saw all the bacon fat/juices swimming in the grill pan, I just had to drench a slice of bread in them and fry it. blush blush blush

I'm going to weigh myself tomorrow morning and hopefully that will shock me into compliance. Willy can you get the big stick into a state of readiness please.

Treelula that sounds really traumatic, hope you're feeling better now and that your brain has processed those upsetting images. Good on you for keeping a cool head and doing what was required at the time.

Sammisatt Happy Birthday!! smile

sammisatt Mon 27-May-13 19:55:34

Thank you crabby! Your food sounds amazing.

CrabbyBigBottom Mon 27-May-13 20:06:38

You're welcome Sammisatt - we're newly 40 together! smile

ChippingInWiredOnCoffee Mon 27-May-13 20:24:57

Oh crabby I guess if you are going to fall of the wagon you might as well do it properly grin Those desserts sound lovely!!

When you wake up tomorrow you will see my hand stretching down to haul you back up onto the wagon!!

Doshusallie Mon 27-May-13 20:35:39

Waves violently at cathyandclaire.

Crabby food sounds delish, happy birthday, and to samisatt.

Food yesterday:

Pork scratchings and a hb egg
Lots of roast chicken, cauliflower cheese, a few green beans
Rather alot of red wine

Food today:

Greek yoghurt
Avocado, red onion, cheese, cucumber, lettuce, mayo, tuna
Lumps of chicken out of dh's curry, meatballs out of dses tea, Brazil nuts, peanuts, slice of cheese, slice of ham!! blush

anchovies Mon 27-May-13 20:43:25

Lost a pound this week so 11lbs so far. Finding this irritatingly easy, I am really benefiting from not having the crazy "I'm on a diet" mentality which has me thinking about food all day every day. I need to up the water intake though so that's the target for this week. Good luck everyone smile

kiwi rib steak here all the way!

sammisatt Mon 27-May-13 21:55:04

Crabby: when did you roll over to the dark side?? Was this weekend your birthday? It's such a good incentive as fat and forty is not what I wAnt to be!

MaryBeardfanclub Mon 27-May-13 22:21:08

evening ladies, well done all the losers/sts's
I have gained 2lb - but have snacked non stop for last 3 days due to TOM which started today so hopefully can get back on an even keel now. 3.5 weeks to bikini gate, need to focus now...

It is 1 year and 1 months since I started this woe and it has truly changed my life. So many benefits:
1 loads of energy - was so tired before, dragging myself from task to task, sustained by hourly tea with sugar and biscuits
2 all my meals taste amazing
3 teeth not furry
4 even mood, feeling upbeat 24/7
5 never get the shakes, sweating etc due to low blood sugar
6 can eat really gorgeous indulgent food without feeling I have to make up for it with exercise/starvation later
7 brain clarity and focus have improved - making work easier
8 feeling smug cos not only is the food great and I feel great but also, this woe is the best woe for the human body so I am doing my future health nothing but good.
9 and it's one in the eye for all these disgusting Big Food companies because I will never give them any of my hard earned cash in exchange for their nutritionally deficient low fat high carb bullshit


Happy Birthday Crabby! I started this a couple of days after my 40th. Go on, give yourself a good birthday present of getting back on the wagon!

I've survived a family party weekend away including refusing all the doritos, pitta bread with dips, birthday cake etc and really tough, refusing alcohol. (this last cos it doesn't mix with some medicine I'm taking.)

But I WAS able to eat lovely salads and a delicious vegetable concoction from the variety of food on offer. I did sneak a few falafels too, I'm sure they are not low-carb but also sure its not as bad as all the other things I didn't eat.

thekitchenfairy Mon 27-May-13 22:33:45

Well done to all the losers, and happy birthdays to sammisat and crabbie.

I am doing uber camp for 3 days... Like you Mary I am 3 weeks away from bikini gate. Today it hit me that I will actually have to purchase swimwear. There is no getting away from it.

I've lost 10lb since Jan and I've got another 10 to go. I need some serious motivation to try to get at least part of the way there and not give up now.

BigStickBIWI Mon 27-May-13 23:52:12

<sneaks back in and sits at the back>

NewStartNewStory Tue 28-May-13 05:05:58

nappyaddict : that is a definite idea. Thanks. although clothes shopping is still my idea of hell have also considered taking the top I wore to the last wedding to bits and remaking it smaller. As I made it in the first place surely that wouldn't be too difficult right? hmm knows it will actually be a complete pita to do exactly that

NewStartNewStory Tue 28-May-13 05:06:41

Enjoying Italy Biwi? grin

rubyrubyruby Tue 28-May-13 06:06:41

<<Joins BIWI at the back>>

BlackAffronted Tue 28-May-13 08:11:46

I am still finding it hard to get back to this woe, even though I know I love it! Carbs have got a vice-like grip on me just now sad I will beat it though smile I have loads of gorgeous food planned for this week, including a slow cooked roast brisket tonight with mashed buttery swede & green beans.

It is hard isn't it Black - I know exactly what you mean. Remember to ask yourself

"Do I want this more than I want to be slim"

Someone else said that before and it really helps for me, if I can get through the first three days I am fine again...

BlackAffronted Tue 28-May-13 08:44:18

I will keep that as my mantra today! Im good too once Im back in it, its just the rstart is so so hard sad

Let that be a warning to anyone wanting to dabble with carbs again!! grin

RaspberrySchnapps Tue 28-May-13 08:48:43

morning. no weight loss this week hmm which I can't really understand, but my jeans are baggier. I'm not going to panic.
b : yoghurt and black tea
l: tuna and leafy greens
d: chicken, celeriac mash and broccoli

BigStickBIWI Tue 28-May-13 08:49:39

Italy was lovely, although the weather left a lot to be desired hmm

I am drawing a large veil over our food/drink, however.

And from today, back on the wagon.

Sorry to hear that some of you are struggling, but MrsHP has some wise words there. The only way to get back on the wagon is to get back on the wagon! It is, sadly, up to you to rein in your inner gobbler. grin

captainmummy Tue 28-May-13 09:02:55

Was away in a hotel this weekend, so breakfast was the MAIN meal of the day! Talk about BAB. ALso gorged on Indian food the night before, (all you can eat £8.95!) - the Korma was suspiciously sweet but the rest was fine. No Naan, rice, poppadoms, - but did have an onion Bhaji.

Too much vodka and soda.

The hotel was next to Reading Stadium, which was hosting a Celeb 6-a-side charity thing, and that bloke from 'Stenders, Ray, was staying at the hotel. Don't really watch it, and to be honest the rest of the guests could have been celebs for all i know. grin

But anyway, felt stuffed now for a couple of days, all LC but nice to get back to normal.

Breakfast today - 2 scrambled eggs, tea with coconut oil.

off to work now.

MsRinky Tue 28-May-13 09:03:38

Morning all. Have stayed the same this week. Went camping at the weekend in glorious sunshine. Am hoping it doesn't rain all week - I am on leave and was meant to be sorting out the garden.

This weekend was hard. I don't want bacon on a plate when I'm camping, I want it in a roll. And beer. Lots of lovely beer. Anyway, back on wagon again today.

Morning all. Welcome back BIWI. Sorry weather was rubbish.

Belated happy birthday sammisatt. And crabby.

Well I treated myself to some red wine last night. 4 small glasses. Stuck to LC food though. Enjoyed my wine but back to normal from today.

Poor DH is a but depressed today. He has been weighing himself on an old scales for the last two years. Yesterday I put a WW scales in the main bathroom. He has gained 12 kilos overnight!! I weighed on both and am 11 kilos lighter on the old one. So he is very depressed!

RaspberrySchnapps Tue 28-May-13 09:30:56

BIWI your 'rein in your inner gobbler'
has just made me snort fizzy water all over poor, startled DS grin

rubybricks Tue 28-May-13 10:03:55

good morning all! another backslider hopping back on the wagon today - 2lbs on this week which is a mercy given the amounts consumed...

sorry i haven't had time to catch up with the thread properly but happy birthday to those who have had them and good to see you back BIWI.

am still in the 10's which is a big deal for me so all is not lost, and i can't believe how much worse i feel in my self while eating 'normally' - i want to get back to not being hungry during the day! i have been away/out/celebrating a lot and it just seems that when alcohol is involved, all my resolve goes out the window. really think that's something i need to address and the rest will fall into place.

going to go back to the spreadsheet and read about ubercamp - maybe if i do that for 3 days it will kick-start ketosis again?

it's interesting to see so many of us are having the same issues, I'm also going to up my water intake again - hope everyone else has a good start to the week smile

CrabbyBigBottom Tue 28-May-13 10:28:51

<<grabs Chipping's kindly proffered hand and hauls self back on the wagon>>

Thank you all for the happy birthdays and words of encouragement! smile I'm so glad this thread is here with all you lovely supportive women - I know I'd be making bargains in my head otherwise - "well there's still half a packet of biscuits left to go with the cheese - wouldn't want to waste them... I'll start tomorrow instead" etc etc. But I feel accountable to you all, so I'm going to dredge up some willpower and the carbs can go uneaten.

Sami it was a planned lapse for the weekend as we had friends staying and I knew we'd really push the boat out with food and drink (greedy boozers that we are! grin). I planned to be back on it yesterday but just too tempted by the leftovers.

Ok I braved the scales this morning and have put 3lbs on. sad Am feeling hungover, dull, fat and forty! grin

BIWI your "rein in your inner gobbler" is going to be my mantra for the week! grin Glad you enjoyed Italy.

Doshusallie Tue 28-May-13 12:55:51

FF Greek yog for brekkie
Lettuce, smoked sausage, olive, cucumber and mayo salad for lunch with 2 hb eggs. Stuffed.

Leverette Tue 28-May-13 13:17:32

B: 2 cups coffee with coconut oil and single cream
L: 3 egg omelette in butter with v small portion of cheese, half tin tomatoes with lots of fresh basil

Keeping a tally chart of glasses of water. Managed 7 yesterday (1.75l) and on the way to 10 today. Felt so dry and thirsty this morning so body is telling me it needs more.

HeirToTheIronThrone Tue 28-May-13 13:20:59

Well it seems I got my maths wrong as I thought I hadn't lost but according to spreadsheet of joy I'm 2.2lbs down... Still not through that stone barrier but so close! Just enjoying a big salad with avocado and feta and oily dressing, with a cold lamb kebab thing left over from the weekend. DP made fajitas last night which I love but had been avoiding due to no tortillas, but I had the mixture rolled in lettuce leaves with grated cheese and tzatziki and it was LUSH.

So I have my oldest friend and her DH coming to stay on Saturday. I don't want to make separate food, but neither do I want all the questions. So, what can I make that is LC but everyone will like/won't raise the 'why are we eating this' issue? I thought coq au vin or a nice beef casserole with creamy celeriac dauphinoise - what do you think?

Heir that sounds good! We did similar when the PILs came round for dinner - Ox cheek stew and roasted celeriac.
You could do a leek lasagne if you fancied something different served with a salad?

CrabbyBigBottom Tue 28-May-13 13:37:34

Oooh I'm finding it very very difficult today. I'm hungover and it's raining and I really want to make cakes or scones or something. sad sad

Doshusallie Tue 28-May-13 14:53:53

Hier - what about mousakka? With a nice big green side salad, garlic bread but don't have any, and a cheese board?

Crabby if you haven't already have a fry up. If I can survive a hangover day on LC food (and I have, many) then you can too!!!

kiwigirl42 Tue 28-May-13 14:55:27

'rein in your inner gobbler' - i'd get a t shirt with that on grin

not hungry so haven't eaten today. been busy on exercise bike and playing with new weights (got whole set of hand weights + 8x 1kg + 4 x 2kg for £3 off ebay!)

weight is 91.5kg today. was 96.8 last bank holiday!

CrabbyBigBottom Tue 28-May-13 15:08:10

Thanks Dosh. Don't want a fry up. Want scones with jam and clotted cream. [pouts]

BigStickBIWI Tue 28-May-13 15:10:50

<twitches stick>

NewStartNewStory Tue 28-May-13 15:13:57

Breakfast: scrambled eggs
Lunch: scrambled eggs

At this rate i am going to start to look like a scrambled egg. Or coffee. drunk waaaaaay too much coffee today. Have actually lost counts this is a bad thing blush

kiwigirl42 Tue 28-May-13 15:22:39

I made some chocolate mousse the other night with the thick part of a can of coconut milk mixed with 2 squares of Lindt 85% chocolate (melted in microwave with 1 tbsp of coconut oil).

I ate half first night and it was really delicious. Had second half when it had set and it was still nice. Like a big fat bomb really. Didn't set my cravings off - was just something a bit different for a treat.

I'm wondering whether I eat too much Total greek yogurt but I still seem to be loosing despite it so will keep it up.
I am post menopausal and are not taking HRT at moment so need to keep the calcium coming in. I take supplements too though

BigStickBIWI Tue 28-May-13 15:23:17

Don't forget, you can also get lots of calcium from leafy green veg

LeatherTuscadero Tue 28-May-13 15:57:33


decaffwithcream Tue 28-May-13 16:33:38

I haven't been able to add to the speadsheet as the pointer stays as a big black arrow over my space in the 27th May column - it doesnt turn into a bar when i click on my space, or let me type into it?

Anyone else having trouble?

HoopaPoop Tue 28-May-13 17:40:39

Can someone put me on the spreadsheet as stayed the same. We' re camping this week and although I seem to have packed the kitchen sink I haven't brought the scales.

click on "go to spreadsheet view" at the top to be able to edit.

couch25cakes Tue 28-May-13 18:44:59

All going ok here with a little wibble. Yesterday had
B- half slice of toast blush
L- chicken salad
D- lamb. Steaks and salad

B- scrambled eggs w cream
L- salt beef salad with beetroot
D- chilli w cauliflower rice, yoghurt and grated cheese

I'm another lb down today but feeling really miserable- like PMS but wrong time of the month. Was almost ready at work (work is v stressful but I usually cope fine). It's day 8 of this woe, is this carb flu? If so I hope it passes sad

Think I'll have an early night with a trashy book (to avoid dd's treat cupboard!)

Doshusallie Tue 28-May-13 18:52:04

I have inhaled some brazil nuts but have resolutely closed the bag telling myself not to be an inner gobbling nutty twat.

Working so far.

couch25cakes Tue 28-May-13 19:27:48

Willie, I tried to add myself to the spreadsheet but I seem to be right at the bottom, in the wrong bit. Sorry if I've messed it up.

iheartshoes Tue 28-May-13 19:34:34

Hi e ery

iheartshoes Tue 28-May-13 19:39:51

Woops managed to muck up first message ! Meant to say hi everyone and ask for some advice really. Looking to loose baby weight now DD is 6 weeks. I'm not breastfeeding anymore so no excuses for sitting around eating cakes !! I've flirted with 5:2 over the past week but my fast day yesterday made me feel sick, shaky and dizzy, not good when I'm looking after DD. so I thought I might try low carb it's worked brilliantly for me in the past. The only problem is I feel that with DD I don't have the time to prep the low carb meals ... Sounds like a poor excuse but it feels so much quicker and easier just to wolf down a sandwich / crisps than to prepare a salad. I know low carb works for me would just like some support on easy meals etc to prepare I suppose. I'm currently 9.8 and would ideally like to be 8.8 but would be happy ATM with anything under 9 stone to be honest (am a shorty)

thekitchenfairy Tue 28-May-13 19:41:29

Evening all,

Reining in the inner gobbler is to this bootcamp what the sugary twats were to January's!

Not alone in my struggles I have felt really propped up by the thread this week. Tank you everyone for sharing.

Today has been delicious using up of leftovers before uber camp tomorrow

B Greek yog with a few blueberries, cinnamon and a slosh of cream
L salad, oily dressing, cold roast chicken thighs
D pork chop pan fried with butter with wilted greens and brocolli drenched in garlic butter
S 2 decaf cofee and cream, one fennel tea.

couch i don't think it will be carb flu on day 8 if you have stuck to the rules... For me that one slice of toast would have made me feel horrible sonit might be that or just that you are coming down with something. Are you eating enough fat? Drinking enough water? and sticking carefully to the rules? If you do you will generally feel fine and have lots of energy (except when unwell obvs!).

B - eggs, mushrooms and bacon fried in butter
L - salad (at London zoo, ignored all the warm carby food despite being wet and cold <polishes halo>)
D - rib steak, green beans, cabbage/mushroom/bacon/cream and some fried onions

I have had the WTO balance of coffee and water so far though! It was VERY wet and cold this afternoon!

CrabbyBigBottom Tue 28-May-13 20:09:47

BIWI's twitching stick just managed to keep me in line. Feeling absolutely rubbish today though, and thoroughly fed up.

B - smoked salmon with loads of creme fraiche
L - baked camembert with celery
D - leftover guinea fowl with broccoli
S - greek yoghurt with double cream and vanilla

2 cups tea, loads of water

Well done crabby! Stick with it, you'll be feeling fabulous soon!!

CrabbyBigBottom Tue 28-May-13 20:16:47

Aw thanks MrsH, you've just cheered me up a bit! smile

decaffwithcream Tue 28-May-13 20:25:49

Thanks Midnight, have added my pound loss to the spreadsheet!


B - Lidl yoghurt, 2 Lidl low-carb sausages with avacado and mayo

L- omelette with asparagus, mushroom and shallot and mayo

D - No-spag Bol with creme fraiche with pine nuts (I don't recommend putting artistic garnish of pine nuts on top - I lost them in the bolognese and thought I'd cracked a tooth on one)

S - portion of edam cheese, 2 squares dark chocolate.


B - Lidl yoghurt, an egg scrambled on avacado and cucumber with mayo

L - Starter sized chicken wings and celery with sour cream (out)

D - No-spag Bol - that's a great quick easy recipe in the low-carb recipe section. Had it with creme fraiche on top.

S - 2 squares of dark chocolate

Have been successfully reducing cheese but notice that creme fraiche appears to be taking its place! Dark choc not meant to be a habit, just the time of the month..

decaffwithcream Tue 28-May-13 20:27:50

Although have just been reading about 99per cent dark chocolate Lindt on a low-carb site but I feel that's a step too far. It would cease to be chocolate to me and become something else entirely.

Doshusallie Tue 28-May-13 20:48:19

Tea was a very lazy very quick but totally yummy salmon steak x 2 with buttery courgette and mushrooms.

couch25cakes Tue 28-May-13 21:08:48

Thanks crabby. I think maybe its just been a crappy day and nothing else. I had my toast yesterday morning and have 100% stuck to the plan since, but for the first time since starting his WOE I didn't sleep well. I'm not going to let it get me down smile

Another question- how do I gratinee/dauphinoise a celeriac? I have a gain Cooke door tomorrow and would normally have potato dauphinoise. Do I need to par boil. Ashamed to say I've never eaten celeriac before.

Couch - I use a celeriac dauphinoise recipe from a BBC.co.UK. It's a Lesley waters recipe. Very easy.

I had a reasonable day today food wise but succumbed to wine again. It's so miserable I was very peed off so decided to have one. Had three.

Went to cinema today with DS and had.......... A cup of tea. Took a couple of Babybels in case I was hungry but didn't need them.

I feel I am a bit all over the place at the moment with processed meats, too much dairy, too many cups of tea and too many tomatoes. Thinking of ubercamping to get back to basics.

I need to drink more water! Some days I am fine but others I struggle.

MaryBeardfanclub Tue 28-May-13 21:35:52

couch you will love celeriac dauphnoise, it's delish. I made it for the 1st time a few weeks ago and I was very impressed - more restaurant-like food! You dont need to parboil, just slice very thinly and put in a pan with cream and seasoning. When it comes to the boil tip into a buttered baking dish and bake til golden and soft. It takes less time than spud. You can add all sorts of variations - garlic, herbs like thyme, crispy lardons, cheese etc

crabby sorry to hear you are feeling low, but mrsHP is right, stick with it and you will feel loads better

I was up at 4.30am with ds2 this morning, he thought it was time to get up. Work was fun.hmm

B: 2 hb eggs with butter
L: 1.5 burgers with melted cheese, veg with butter
S: lots of cheddar (my go to snack of the moment)
D: mackerel fillet, poached egg, big salad with lots of oily dressing, lump of feta

I've been reading about a movie called "Fathead" - has anyone seen it? It's sort of a reply to Morgan Spurlock's "supersize me" as in, it's not the fat that makes people fat, it's the carbs. The film maker, Tom Naughton has a really excellent blog which I've been reading over the weekend.

thekitchenfairy Tue 28-May-13 21:38:00

Hi couch

No, you don't need to cook it, slice as thin as you can, I usually cut it in half first, layer it in a dish and cover with cream and maybe a splash of home made stock. Cooks in 35-40 mins or so, on gas 4.

Utterly. Delicious!

My mum had kittens today at the news that I'm not eating fruit ("but its GOOD for you...!") and no amount of "it all makes sense let me explain" or even "look its working" got through. I had to just call a halt to the urge to convert her to this WOE.

Courage to all of you and those getting back on wagons! Its week 5 of 10, you are half-way through. (I started 1 week late). Think of the positives, we'll all have to buy new clothes soon eh?!

iheartshoes good luck. Maybe you could think of making a salad or making a sandwich being about the same time? I made packed lunches for 6 today (5 lots of sandwiches and 1 box of mayo-rich salad for me) I swear my bit didn't take any more time than a sandwich. Or can you freeze stews/soups etc so you don't have to start from scratch each day?

BerylStreep Tue 28-May-13 22:25:52

I got a new bike at the weekend, and have been out for the last 2 days, 11 miles each time. I am hoping that some exercise will help my metabolism.

I feel great, loads of energy, although I haven't lost much weight in the last couple of weeks.

I wish I wasn't quite as pudgy though.

CrabbyBigBottom Tue 28-May-13 22:30:29

Couch I think you gave me a thank you meant for MrsHP... wink

Thanks Mary. I'm pleased I made it through the day without giving in to the cravings. Tomorrow will be better, hopefully. Bloody weather doesn't help, does it, although the bank holiday weekend was glorious so can't complain too much.

HeirToTheIronThrone Tue 28-May-13 22:59:39

Well I can heartily recommend salmon fillets served up with mustard cauliflower mash and broccoli... 2 pints of water with it and two squares of v dark chocolate. I feel I am on top of it more this time, though the lbs are coming off soooo slowly!

milliemoomay Tue 28-May-13 23:12:03

Weighed in tonight as had an alcohol-fuelled long weekend. A lb down (don't deserve it!). I need to get back into it as I seem to have lost my WOE mojo! Had a picky day food wise too.

I'm definitely getting back in the saddle tomorrow!

Tigglette Wed 29-May-13 00:55:10

So today was a fairly good one, meals were

B. Greek yoghurt and a few walnuts
L. Cheese and celery (assorted cheese much nicer than it sounds)
D. After karate training a picky supper of griddled prawns, chicken wings and salad

All v good wages down with lots of water... T'is all good!

MaryBeardfanclub Wed 29-May-13 06:36:36

woohoo, a full night's sleep. Thank you children

Lily a colleague who saw me reading Gary Taubes Diet Delusion said my diet was no good if it didn't include fruit - I read about the amazing marketing campaign to promote fruit and veg sales on Zoe Harcombe's blog here. When I started LCing I did have an apple most days as I liked apples but after reading about the sugar content I gave them a miss and never even think about eating an apple now. I just remember in my low fat days eating so much fruit to fill up between meals because I was starving! and it made me hungrier - now I know it's because of the sugar.

couch25cakes <cough at your name grin> i've added you to the spreadsheet, you haven't messed it up at all, just add your weight or let me know what it is and I'll pop it in smile

BigStickBIWI Wed 29-May-13 08:58:45

There's a bit in The Diet Delusion about two guys who went to live for a long period of time (a year I think?) with a people who only ate protein - no fruit or veg. They took all manner of health measurements before they left, and then when they returned. Their health hadn't suffered, in fact their dental health had actually improved - presumably as they hadn't been eating so much sugar! I will look that up and reference it properly later - it's a chapter definitely worth reading. (Not that I'm suggesting we should be protein-only, but it's useful 'ammunition' for those who are adamant that fruit, or even vegetables, are essential for our health)

MaryBeardfanclub Wed 29-May-13 09:23:36

Just received an email from my healthcare co - including a 7 day healthy eating plan which it claims will boost my metabolism!

The plan contains such delights as:
Roast chicken breast and thigh, skin removed

toasted rye bread and 1tsp
margarine spread

A salad of 1/3 cup chickpeas
(70g), reduced fat feta cheese
(30g), 1 cup cooked bulgur wheat,
5 chopped olives, 4–5 sundried
tomatoes, 2–3 asparagus spears
and chopped mint leaves

1/3 cup low-fat muesli with
125ml fat-free fruit-flavoured
yoghurt, and 1 small banana
chopped into the bowl with 5
raw, unsalted cashew nuts

Lentil pie: 1 cup tinned lentils, 30g
grated cheese, 90g sliced potatoes,
sliced onion, 150ml stock. Layer half
potatoes/onions in a greased dish,
top with lentil/cheese mix, cover
with rest of potato mix. Add stock,
cover in foil, bake at 180°C for 1 hr

Turkey sandwich: 2 thin slices
toasted rye bread, 1/3 cup fat-free
cottage cheese, 2 thin slices turkey,
5 sliced olives, lettuce and sliced
cucumber and tomato

A smoothie made with 175ml
fat free vanilla yoghurt, 3/4 cup
frozen mixed berries and 1 small
banana. Sprinkle with 4 almonds

200g lean steak with all the fat
cut off (pan fried, grilled or baked)
with black mushrooms topped
with spinach

Omelette made with 2–3 egg
whites and filled with sautéed
mushrooms, aubergine and
tomatoes, served with 1 medium
slice of toasted rye bread. Use
1tsp olive oil for cooking

A roast: 3 thin slices lean beef
(90g), served with English mustard,
180g sweet potato (roasted with
vegetables like onions, mushrooms,
baby marrows and mixed peppers),
1tsp olive oil used in cooking

If that lot doesn't make your heart sing that you found LCHF I dont know what will!

aah marybeard, margarine and low fat dairy. what's not to love

Mary I agree it now seems so obvious that fruit was acting in the same way as any sugary snack, making me want to keep putting more food in my mouth!

QueenofDreams Wed 29-May-13 11:47:53

Had a bit of a slip up last night. We're still in the grip of a wretched cold at the moment. Felt too damned ill to cook last night. DP ordered us a curry to share. I ate half a naan bread, but no rice.

This morning I had egg in a cloud with buttered mushrooms and spinach for breakfast. Absolutely delicious!

Lunch: pork fillet in some form. DP suggested tortillas, I'll work out something different to do with it I think.

BigStickBIWI Wed 29-May-13 11:57:13

What's an egg in a cloud?! Sounds very romantic!

nappyaddict Wed 29-May-13 11:58:46

decaffwithcream What are these lidl yoghurt and lidl low carb sausages you speak of?

iheartshoes What is your height? I am the same weight as you smile

QueenofDreams Wed 29-May-13 12:10:30

biwi egg in a cloud - separate the egg, beat the white till stiff, mix in a little chopped spring onion and chopped fried chorizo. Pop the egg white mixture on a baking sheet, make a well in it and put the yolk in. Bung in the oven for 6-7 minutes. It's lovely! I can't claim credit for this, I got it off a blog.

QueenofDreams Wed 29-May-13 12:11:57
BigStickBIWI Wed 29-May-13 12:16:38

Sound lovely!

NewStartNewStory Wed 29-May-13 12:22:11

That eggs is clouds really does sound lovely Queen.

Slowly getting back on track. variety not there yet. But three meals are and i know that i am being a snob about veg so will be tackling that thanks to a good friend who recommended a brilliant little farm shop which sell vegetables that taste like vegetables and not the high yield no taste nonsense that is commercially viable for the supermarkets.

Managed all my water yesterday, but going to struggle today as have only just woken up. Took a day off to deal with some of the sleep deprivation.

Lessons learnt the hard way on this woe:
Water - don't drink it don't lose weight
3 meals - you really can't skip meals, have to eat something
tiredness - will make the cravings worse and lower your resolve
stress - if you try to stick to the woe and not deal with the cause the cravings will increase.
Other people are just sugary twats sometimes
One day does not a end to the woe make but you will have to tame your inner gobbler to stick to it again
And the last lesson: I still hate clothes shopping

Right off to grab some lunch before I catch up with myself and figure out what needs to be done. Feeling slightly disorientated for having slept properly for a change.

BigStickBIWI Wed 29-May-13 12:35:52

Ah yes. Even though I routinely fit into size 10 clothes these days (sometimes an 8) I still hate clothes shopping! I think they put those fairground mirrors into changing rooms.

BigStickBIWI Wed 29-May-13 12:37:28

Food choices for me have been pretty good so far. I have done intermittent fasting today and yesterday.

Yesterday's dinner was roast belly pork, leeks fried in butter and red cabbage braised with onion and raspberry vinegar.

Today - have had two boiled eggs, mashed with mayo for lunch. Tonight will be marinated salmon with stir-fried asparagus, baby sweetcorn and broccoli.

Finally managed to weigh myself, I'm half a pound down. This is going soooo sloooowly! I could really do with a whoosh to give me a boost.
I'm having my body fat, muscle mass and waist to hip ratio measured again next week so I'll hopefully see a big difference in some of those stats - I last did it on 10th April.

Today I have had - Bulletproof coffee and a dairylea strip cheese for breakfast. Huge herb salad with 4 baby plum tomatoes, 2 spring onions, smoked mackerel and a vinagarette made of EVOO, red wine vinegar and a splodge of mayo.
Dinner will be roast chicken thighs, samphire and buttery swede mash.

NewStartNewStory Wed 29-May-13 13:11:57

"I think they put those fairground mirrors into changing rooms." And what is the lighting they put in? Interrogation grade? Not to mention not to be allowed to be skinny and have norks. etc etc.
<gives the clothes shops a miss and heads off to the fabric shop>

NewStartNewStory Wed 29-May-13 13:12:53

blush that came out a bit more grumpy then i intended blush

iheartshoes Wed 29-May-13 13:52:18

nappyaddict I'm 5'1", so anything over 9 stone and I look on the porky side . Put on 2.5 stone during pregnancy and DD was a teeny 6lb2oz blush

Ruprekt Wed 29-May-13 14:20:37

<<peeps in to see if BigStickBiwi is in>>

<<feels the coast is clear>>

Eeeeeeeeeeek!!! I have been a bit silly but not gained weight IYSWIM!

Just testing the carb situation as DH manages to eat carbs and not gain weight but I am not there yet!

Been baking for children and snaffled a few cakes. sad and the new Marvellous Creations Cadbury bar is very moreish.

'My name is Ruprekt and I can be addicted to sugar if I do not avoid it completely.'

<<hangs head in shame>>

Interestingly though, all my meals have been low carb even though I have not been strictly on the low carb wagon and I have still not drunk alcohol. DespitePeopleTryingToMakeMe.....WhydoPeopleDoThat?

Doshusallie Wed 29-May-13 14:21:20

2 hb eggs for brekkie
delish salad of mushrooms, celery, letttuce, smoked sausage and ham, mayo, cucumber and olives for lunch

QueenofDreams Wed 29-May-13 14:21:32

Feeling so crap. Can't be bothered to eat. Just want to sleeeeep. bleurgh.

BerylStreep Wed 29-May-13 16:53:55

We have a lovely canteen in work. I had a take out salad box for lunch today with chicken in a hot mexican rub with a mixed salad and mayo on the side.

The staff there are getting used to me - recently I have been having bacon with melted brie and mixed salad, with the obligatory extra mayo.

rubybricks Wed 29-May-13 16:56:09

hope you feel better soon queen
again, not entirely caught up with thread but just filled in diary to week 10 of bootcamp and realised that week 11 is bikinigate for me so am back on the wagon with even more of a vengeance!

went for a quick run last night and felt fluey afterwards, but think it's just that stage again - my own fault for being back to square one.

really going to try to stick with this, it's too easy to have a glass or three of wine and just think a couple of pringles to go with wont matter...

B: double fried egg and crumbled feta, chives
L: chicken salad with mayo
D: lamb chops with tba, maybe roasted broccoli
S:2 x coffee with cream & coconut oil

thanks everyone for posting and sharing - off to drink some more water!

couch25cakes Wed 29-May-13 17:23:24

Thanks crabby, and thanks Mrs HP, oops.

Feel much better today but did have a few cravings, which I resisted. So far today I've had a slice of gammon and fried egg for breakfast, and little gem leaves with beetroot, avocado and a little crumbled feta for lunch. Dinner will be gammon with the celeriac dauphinoise ( thanks all for your recommendations!) which is in the oven, with some broccoli.

I can't believe that in ten days I've had nothing sweet!

B - bacon, eggs and mushroom (as requested by dd too!)
L - lettuce, goats cheese, fried tomatoes
D - broccoli, green beans, lamb

timidviper Wed 29-May-13 17:25:02

I was very adventurous and bought a whole tilapia for tea yesterday which was reduced to £2.80 in Morrisons, sounded like a bargain till I cooked it and realised that the bugger was all scales and bones so, although it looked big, it only made one small portion. Consequently I had to dig some steak out for tea last night and I had the fish with salad for lunch.

I bought a thingy from Morrisons fish counter which is a piece of salmon wrapped around a cod tail and a piece of smoked fish, Hopefully that will feed the two of us tonight with celeriac mash and broccoli.

I am trying to be strong this week to remedy the damage inflicted by my holiday last week

couch nothing sweet for 10 days is great - only four more to two whole weeks! Glad you are feeling better...

CrabbyBigBottom Wed 29-May-13 17:33:39

Still feeling pretty bleugh but better than yesterday. Carbs and wine are evil! If only they didn't taste so good. sad

B/L - 2 egg omelette with cheddar, pesto and ham
2 teas, 1 damiana tea, 2L water
D - will be cauliflower cheese, I think, with mushrooms, bacon, cream and maybe some nuts on top. to replace the breadcrumbs I'd usually put on

BigStickBIWI Wed 29-May-13 18:16:01

couch - just watch out with that beetroot - it's very carby!

BlackAffronted Wed 29-May-13 18:18:15

Right, I am back in the swing of things. I know Im heading into ketosis again, as I get blurred vision for a day or two (never get carb flu luckily!).

Yesterday -
B - Eggs
L - Cheesy hotdogs wrapped in bacon - awesome though I know its a bit procsessed sad & lots of salad
D - Slow roasted beef brisket, mashed swede & vichy carrots

Today -

B - leftover beef & swede mash
L - Mushroom pizzas
D - Thai green chicken curry & veg

Think I am going to try eggs in clouds tomorrow smile

Have been reading online aboutthe 7 minute workout that is supposed to be as good for you as a couple of hours running/gym. I downloaded a free app and did my 1st one last night. Im going to do it 3 times a week. It was tough, but its over so quickly that you can cope very easily with it. It was designed by scientists as the ultimate workout, so hope I see some rewards. Will link to it if any9one is interested.

crabby leave off the nuts I'd say you don't need them. Low carb cheese sauce is delish as it is and needs no topping...

Well done black!

BlackAffronted Wed 29-May-13 18:25:27

Can someone link me to the chart for how much water we should be drinking please?

BlackAffronted Wed 29-May-13 18:26:28

MrsHP, is that you back on the wagon too?

BigStickBIWI Wed 29-May-13 18:27:51

BlackAffronted - if you go to the spreadsheet and look up the rules, that chart is listed there in the rule about water

BlackAffronted Wed 29-May-13 18:29:35

Ahh I did have a look but couldnt see it <blind as a bat> Thanks!

couch25cakes Wed 29-May-13 18:31:13

Oops- I thought I'd read beetroot was ok. I'll cross it off my list!

Willie-I did put my weights in but they've obviously disappeared- starting weight was 251.5 blush and week one was 246.5. Thanks!

What's the recipe for low carb cheese sauce, please?

I'm feeling stuffed after a big dinner of smoked salmon, mashed swede, cauliflower cheese and carrots.

BigStickBIWI Wed 29-May-13 19:02:13

I just make it with double cream and masses of grated cheese melted into it, Lily. Alternatively you could use cream cheese (like Philadelphia), heat that and add grated cheese.

Ruprekt Wed 29-May-13 19:17:48

Yikes, you are back Biwi!!! smilesmilesmile

Lovely food today.

Had almond/cream cheese pancakes with cream and blueberries.

Dinner was salmon with feta and basil, celeriac mash and chard.

Need more water.

BigStickBIWI Wed 29-May-13 19:18:25

Oh yes, I'm back, Ruprekt grin

Lily I do dollop cream cheese, splash double cream, handful cheddar per person. Mix together and dollop on cauliflower, into hot oven or grill. It's quite stiff when raw, but as it cooks it turns into a proper cheese sauce consistency

Ah couch were you in as cathan or similar name? I wasn't sure who that was but it's still in there. I'll change the name - sorry for confusion

ZimboMum Wed 29-May-13 19:41:59

black would love the link to that 7 minute workout. I could probably manage 7 minutes, eventually grin

B: egg and bacon
L: brocolli soup
D: pork burgers with celeriac chips and sautéed purple stem brocolli

CrabbyBigBottom Wed 29-May-13 19:46:25

Sorry MrsH blush I was craving a bit of crunch. In the end I only used a very few flaked almonds - no more than one or two almonds in total.

Lily I'm really pleased with how my cheese sauce turned out tonight - I've found it a bit thin when I've made it without flour and milk before but I think I'm getting the hang of it now.
Tonight I finely chopped a couple of shallots and some garlic, then fried them gently in butter with a dash of olive oil (stops the butter burning). Added diced mushrooms, some chopped thyme and rosemary, cooked gently for a while. Then I poured in a load of double cream, a huge dollop of cream cheese (first time I've tried this brand - 'paysan breton' which is 3g carb per 100g - and it's bloody gorgeous, I could just eat it on it's own), some gruyere and a bit of smelly blue cheese left over from the weekend. The cream cheese thickened it really well and the gruyere gives it a lovely stretchy texture, like mozzarella does.

I topped the cauliflower in the sauce with some grated cheddar and browned it under the grill, then added some crispy fried bacon bits and the forbidden almonds.

CrabbyBigBottom Wed 29-May-13 19:57:51

Now here's an annoying mystery... I checked the carb content of the flaked almonds before I cooked and the packet said 3.9g carbs per 100g. I've looked it up on the website (couldn't be arsed to get up and go and check) in an effort to get myself out of the shadow of that twitching big stick grin and it says 10.3g per 100g! I checked the packet, and then checked the sell-by date. Jan 2012 blush oops. But how can the carb content of toasted flaked almonds have bloody well tripled in a year or two fgs. Also, the non-toasted almonds are 6.45g - that's a big difference for a bit of toasting!

Is it an American site crabby? They might include the fibre in the carb count

BigStickBIWI Wed 29-May-13 20:14:17

What brand was it Crabby?

HeirToTheIronThrone Wed 29-May-13 20:25:12

DP has gone out so have treated myself to omelette with lardons, mushrooms and cheese. Yum. Same salad as yesterday for lunch, was starving this afternoon for some reason so had a babybel, mini pepperami and a few too many Brazil nuts.

I'm having my Implanon implant taken out tomorrow so hoping the hormone change is not going to pitch me into cake and badness!

ChippingInWiredOnCoffee Wed 29-May-13 20:27:47

Nuts are weird - it's official grin

They vary from brand to brand what the carb count is... I mean, how the hell can one brand of roasted, salted almonds be 4g/100 and another brand be 10/100.

It drives me nuts!!

Yama Wed 29-May-13 20:29:35

I have definitely eaten too much today. I blame the homemade coleslaw (red cabbage/shallots/carrots/mayo). I have been adding it my my salad for lunch this week and my portions have been steadily increasing. Only way to get some though or else dh would have it scoffed.


B - scrambled eggs with beef and garlic brie
L - Mega salad with coleslaw, burger, brie and chicken
D - Pork casserole with cauli rice

I have a wedding to go to in July. What am I going to wear? It's in a (very famous) castle.

CrabbyBigBottom Wed 29-May-13 20:41:04

They're waitrose own brand here are the toasted ones and here are the lower carb untoasted variety.

But mine, which are waitrose and identically packaged to the toasted flaked ones above, have the following profile per 100g:
- energy 645kcal
- protein 27.2g
- carb 3.9g
- of which sugars 3.5g
- fat 57.6g
- of which saturates 4.8g
- fibre 7.7g

produce of USA, use by Jan 2012

What have they been doing to their almonds! confused

CrabbyBigBottom Wed 29-May-13 20:42:23

Chipping it's a bloody big variation, isn't it.

changeforthebetter Wed 29-May-13 20:53:29

Well, I fell so far from the wagon last week, it wasn't true. And was rewarded with stomach ache, bloating and vile wind confused (sorry) I cannot bear to get on the scales but I am more or less LCing again.

I was premenstrual plus got really bad news on Thursday and the new WOE just seemed too much effort. At least it is half term so I can hopefully get back on track.

Just checking in and catching up

ChippingInWiredOnCoffee Wed 29-May-13 21:00:23

Change - sorry to hear about your bad news sad Anything we can help with?? >pulls change back up onto the wagon too<

Crabby - yeah, it's odd isn't it. However, being a vegetarian that doesn't eat eggs - I just 'sigh' loudly and carry on eating them - it's either that or an Apple Yum Yum grin

Thanks for the cheese sauce pointers! Cooking with double cream! (deep breath)

BigStickBIWI Wed 29-May-13 21:33:32

Cabby - 3.9g sounds quite low for almonds anyway - the Collins gem carb counter gives flaked or ground as 6.8g per 100g

decaffwithcream Wed 29-May-13 22:03:30

nappyaddict the lidl yoghurt comes in a blue and white bucket with a greek name that begins with an E. It is full fat, slightly lower carb even than total and very rich and creamy.

I read the phrase "lidl low-carb sausages" on here and went searching the labels - I found pork and spring onion ones that are 2.5 carbs per sausage. There may be other flavours that are as low or lower but i stopped right there. grin. They are big and very flavoursome.

prettybird Wed 29-May-13 22:22:19

Had been away for the weekend (somewhere exotic like BIWI'S; just to the North West for ds to participate in 3 days of cycling races) so am only catching ip now.

Despite being out all day spectating and then having to pull together easy meals in the house we were staying in, I managed to keep pretty much to Boot Camp rules with the exception of some (well deserved) wine I even resisted all the home-made cakes at the catering on Sunday although I did succumb to a bacon butty blush

After a final day getting soaked on Blackpool Promenade (fortunately had taken my ski, my SKI shock jacket, which was soaked through and took a dry to dry out!!) a group of us stopped off for a fish supper before trekking back up to Scotland. I had a small one and let dh have most of the chips wink

Anyway, my virtue was rewarded with a further 2lbs off; I am now 10stone 10lb and now officially have a (normal) BMI of 25. smile. ok, I have the scales positioned in the spot that gives the most flattering weight grin

Hi all. Sorry the nuts are driving you all nuts! Amazing how the info changes.

B - yoghurt, flaxseeds, blueberries and cream
L - broccoli and blue cheese soup, ham and cream cheese roll-ups
Snack - cheese
D - courgette ribbons, meatballs, tomato sauce and some feta
S - cheese

Have downloaded an app on my phone to keep track of my water intake. Managed 9 big glasses today.

Felt rotten midafternoon. Felt like cystitis. Was also a bit constipated. And couldn't get warm. Wanted to go to bed but decorators are here. Took some bicarbonate in water and that helped. Snuggled on the sofa for a while. Seems ok now.

BerylStreep Wed 29-May-13 23:05:47

I am supposed to be going to bed, and instead I have noisily lifted my assorted packets of almonds out of the cupboard to check carb contents per 100g.

Whole, with skins: 6.5g
Blanched: 6.5g
Flaked: 6.5g
Toasted flaked: 6.5g
Ground: 6.5g

All Sainsbury's own brand.

It's official, no matter what you do with an almond, it will always be 6.5g carb/100g.

Now I'm going to bed.

As an aside, my Burmese cat (we still think of her as a kitten) has been missing since last night. She never does that. I have worried and worried about her all day, and DD had designed 'missing' posters. She has just turned up, very excited to be home, and smelling of engine oil. I am very relieved.

sammisatt Thu 30-May-13 06:39:29

Massive challenge this weekend. My brother is getting married and we are going to my parents for 3 days. They are vegetarian with a shockingly high carb diet. Dinner will be something like this: pasta with garlic bread, dessert: healthy option: activia yoghurt unhealthy: cheesecake. There will be no meat in the house and 'healthy' sweetened muesli for breakfast or coco pops, lashings of white bread on the side.

I think you all get the drift!

I cannot afford to do bad carbs over 3 days ESP as I went overboard for my b'day. Am going to have to turn down their carby food even if they get offended. You'd think being vegetarian they'd understand but they will think im totally deluded with my fancy faddish, london ways!

Have packed: macadamia nuts, almonds, mini salami, mini chorizo, tub of fage and a Tupperware of my own muesli made of flaxseed, toasted coconut, ground almonds and walnuts. I'm bound to slip up at one meal as there really are no options at my parents but am going to do my best to rein it in for 90% of the time.

Thing is I hate the thought of ' slipping up' over something as grim as pasta or garlic bread forced on me due to vegetarian fridge/cupboards confused

Wish me luck!

robino Thu 30-May-13 07:05:34

I am creeping in. I had a shocker of a weekend last week involving too much beer and a 4am bedtime ( I cannot cope with this)! And was a bit slack On Sunday too. However, somehow, I managed to stay the same. I am back on the wagon but need to drink a LOT more water.

I saw someone I haven't seen for a few months yesterday, she sidled up to me and complimented me in how much slimmer I'm looking so it was a bit of well timed inspiration!

BlackAffronted Thu 30-May-13 07:54:25

sammi, can youoffer to do some of the cooking? Then you could make a big low carb veggie meal or something.

zimbo - heres the link to the article about the 7 minte workout - well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/05/09/the-scientific-7-minute-workout/ If you have an android phone or tablet, just search for an app that will help you time it. There is probably an iphone version too.

Making egg clouds for breakfast smile

couch25cakes Thu 30-May-13 08:31:47

Willie, can you keep me as couch25cakes, many thanks (getting different forum names confusedblush).

Another day ahead, have had my bacon and eggs, tbh I'm getting a bit sick of eggs and will need to plan more interesting breakfasts. Lunch is gammon salad with avocado, and dinner will be decided later - dh is out so I can please myself smile

BigStickBIWI Thu 30-May-13 09:26:28

sammisatt - in that situation I'd definitely do some shopping locally so that you can cook your own meals. You have to stick up for yourself and your needs. After all, why should your parents impose their views on you, if you know it's to your detriment? You don't have to cook for them, but neither do you have to eat what they prefer.

Ruprekt Thu 30-May-13 09:41:09

Sammisatt....are they offended by meat in the house?

I cooked for myself when I went to my parents. Lots of raised eyebrows all round which I ignored.

Wondered if you could buy a steak and some veg?

Ruprekt Thu 30-May-13 09:44:06

Waitrose was mega for reductions last night!!!,

I have a mahoosive pile of mushrooms which DH and I love!

2 bags spinach
2 bags chard
2 huuuuuge basil plants that Waitrose paid me 35p to take home!smilesmilesmilesmile

Any ideas for mushroom recipes?

BigStickBIWI Thu 30-May-13 09:45:04

I have a lovely recipe for mushroom pate, if you want that?

BigStickBIWI Thu 30-May-13 09:46:40

Here - I'll assume you do anyway grin:

Mushroom Pate

250g mushrooms
30g butter
3-4 garlic cloves, peeled and finely chopped
250g cream cheese
Salt and freshly ground black pepper

Serves 10-12 as a canapé

1.Clean and trim the mushrooms, and chop them finely
2.Heat the butter in a large frying pan over a medium heat. Saute the mushrooms and garlic, stirring frequently for 10 minutes or until all the moisture has evaporated. Leave to cool for a few minutes
3.Blitz the mushrooms in a food processor until smooth, then add the cream cheese and blitz again until well blended
4.Season to taste and then leave to cool completely
5.Refrigerate for at least an hour for the garlic flavour to develop

Keeps very well in the fridge for up to a week

This is a Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall recipe

Good luck Sammisat that is a big challenge! Do they tend to have much salad in the vegetarian fridge? (thinking you could make yourself a salad + cheese or omelette etc while they all tuck into pasta).

QueenofDreams Thu 30-May-13 11:04:03

Morning all. Breakfast this morning was same as yesterday. Haven't decided on any other meals yet. I think it's going to depend on appetite really. Last night had no dinner, just a bit of yoghurt with double cream and a few hazelnuts stirred in

black did you enjoy your eggs?

Ruprekt Thu 30-May-13 11:06:09

Am definitely making the pate! smile Yum!

And I will serve it with parmesan shortbread!

QueenofDreams Thu 30-May-13 11:06:20

Oh and sammisat are your parents the kind of vegetarians who never seem to eat any actual vegetables? SIL was vegetarian for many years, but basically just seemed to eat jacket potatoes, pizza and loads of junk all the time, never just a nice healthy veggie meal.

BlackAffronted Thu 30-May-13 12:20:48

Queen, those eggs are delicious! I added a sprinkle of parmesan to mine. I posted a photo on Facebook and have had 5 people ask me for the recipe grin

QueenofDreams Thu 30-May-13 12:21:46

haha, brilliant to hear it. I really like them as well!

sammisatt Thu 30-May-13 12:49:50

Queen. Yes!! How did you know?they eat veg buying quite small quantities as an add on to that bloody pasta!
Thanks for the tips guys. They are vegetarian for ethical reasons so I won't be frying a steak( they have an aga too which is crap for frying) but I reckon ham, tuna etc will be fine. I will also sneak out with my very carnivorous partner and score some animal.

Thanks for the tips everyone. It's stressful isnt it? I dread the conversations with them about it. They will think I'm gwyneth bloody Paltrow with my uppity metropolitan ways. Sigh.

BlackAffronted Thu 30-May-13 13:07:47

Just remind yourself that their beleifs are not more important than yours smile

Ruprekt Thu 30-May-13 13:11:24

Ugh! Am on my 3rd PINT of water and I cannot stop going to the loo!!

Am trying to drink a pint before I have a coffee (from my new, free, courtesy of Mumsnet, Tassimo machine winkwink!!)

sammisatt Thu 30-May-13 13:15:19

So true BIWI.

sammisatt Thu 30-May-13 13:15:43

I meant Black!grin

colette Thu 30-May-13 13:23:33

Am I too late to add this week's weight ? I can't seem to enter it
Have been putting it off until I had been back non track for a few more days - 1lb off grin

kiwigirl42 Thu 30-May-13 13:27:07

well done everyone who is sticking with it!

I actually went out for a meal last night with in laws - first time in 6 yrs I've made it without a migraine!
We went to the Greyhound races and it was good fun. I managed fine diet wise but did have a Gaelic coffee (coffee, whiskey, whipped cream) afterwards which I really enjoyed.

Have just had steak, fried aubergine and broccoli for lunch - sick of aubergine now! Seem to be addicted to broccoli though.

I bought myself some heated rollers (want to look the dogs at friend wedding mid-June) and I love them. I've got just past shoulder length dead straight hair and they made it lovely and full.
I trotted out with a face full of slap feeling great.

I've got a bottle of setting lotion to use next time as most of the curls had fallen out by time I got home last night (my hair is very resistant to curling - even perms (in the 1980's!) used to fall out)

I just went for lunch at someone's house, carrot and coriander soup and some cheese from the cheese board. Said no thankyou to the bread and DIDN'T EXPLAIN. (as mumsnet has taught me that no is a complete sentence.) I know that lunch situation is way easier than what you are about to face Sammisat but I still feel pleased with myself!

Leverette Thu 30-May-13 14:21:38

ROFL @ score some animal

Drowning in water here too, 7 glasses so far today = 1.75l
Aiming for at least another 5 = 3l in total

ToomuchIsBackOnBootcamp Thu 30-May-13 14:29:56

I too am lol-ing at "score some animal"

ruprekt ooh lucky you with the Tassimo! I really wanted one of those!! I need to keep mentioning to DH that I am a much nicer person with caffeine it would be an ideal birthday present.

Well done lily small battles win the war!

Those eggs in clouds look yummy. I am just having egg in purgatory for lunch! To keep the theme going.

BIWI I'm so glad to hear you're doing IF - was keeping my mouth shut about it in case anyone thought I was being silly, but I've started the 5:2 way of eating in addition to the low carbing - today is my 3rd fast day (I do Mondays and Thursdays). I think we low carbers get a bit of an advantage because of our generally reduced appetite, 'cos I'm finding it rather easy. Had 2 home made burgers with lettuce leaves and 1 tomato earlier, and that should be it for the day apart from a load of water. I won't find out whether this is working until I go back to Dad's, but it feels like it is :D

decaffwithcream Thu 30-May-13 14:57:44

Sorry Sammisatt, what on earth is a "tub of fage" ??

I would bring some cheese to snack on too btw.

colette Thu 30-May-13 15:30:41

Blackaffronted - that 7 minute workout looks really good. Think I wil try it , not sure about how many reps I can do or if the chair won't fall over !

BigStickBIWI Thu 30-May-13 16:00:08

Furry - I had to back away from the 5:2 threads because so many of them got so sick of me talking about low carbing and how it would really help them blush

That, plus the obsession with calorie counting, which I have vowed I will never do again.

sammisatt Thu 30-May-13 16:35:11

Tub of fage is full fat fage Greek yoghurt.

HalfSpamHalfBrisket Thu 30-May-13 16:38:59

Willie/BIWI - could you add me back on please - I have been weighing myself but not converting it and adding it to the spreadsheet <inept>

kiwigirl42 Thu 30-May-13 17:37:45

I've been managing 2 'fast' days a week quite easily without even trying since going low carb.
I lost about half a stone in Feb doing alternate day fasting but found it was getting harder some days. Was just SO hungry late evening before I went to sleep, no doubt because of the 500kcals of sugar I'd ingested on the dot of 3pm!

ecuse Thu 30-May-13 17:41:29

Hello all. Have been away for 3 weeks - holiday in Spain then moving house - during which I have been a bit of a carbyfucker. But DH and I are back on plan now and have been almost looking forward to it! Weighed in when back from holiday and had STS (miracle) but haven't weighed in last fortnight as scales are in a BOX somewhere. House is in total disarray, we still don't even have an oven but have discovered two takeaway staples:

* kebab shop - chicken/lamb shish with no bread but a big pile of salad and lots of chilli and garlic sauce
* chinese - mushroom and/or pork foo yung with green beens in garlic sauce and bok choi stirfried with ginger

Since starting LCing I have become obsessed with green beans cooked in butter. Amazing. And, of course that braised cabbage recipe.

I must know what eggs in clouds are - I have clearly missed a trick.

nappyaddict Thu 30-May-13 17:47:13

Do people find nut flours go stale quickly? Cook's thesaurus suggests they should be kept in the fridge.

They say you can substitute ground nuts (also called nut meal) for nut flours but ground nuts/nut meal will produce a courser texture.

I have been a right sugary twat today. blush
Went to a world buffet at lunch time (having eaten nothing all day and been to the gym - ow my glutes) and went a bit pudding crazy sad massive blood sugar crash afterwards, I really felt quite unwell!
I think I am a bit frustrated about hovering around the same weight for so long and I need to be a bit more hardcore. I'm going to try removing dairy from my diet and stop eating nuts.

BlackAffronted Thu 30-May-13 17:54:10

Colette, Im a big old girl. and teh chair didnt topple over when I did it grin I also didnt do very many reps, I just tried my hardest. Let me know how you get on!

5:2 fasting just didnt work for me, even when LCing. I got obsessed with food blush and it brought back some of my food issues that LC had eliminated. Good luck though, it does some to work really well for some people, my SIL has lost a stone doing it.

QueenofDreams Thu 30-May-13 18:16:55

ecuse eggs in clouds: separate the egg, beat the white till stiff, mix in a little chopped spring onion and chopped fried chorizo. Pop the egg white mixture on a baking sheet, make a well in it and put the yolk in. Bung in the oven for 6-7 minutes

Just c&p from my previous post about them

I had chicken and chorizo kebabs for lunch with a salad on the side. No dressing on the salad as I'm all out of olive oil.

Dinner will probably be chicken again I think. It's one that comes with a caramelised chilli sauce though confused I might have to just avoid the sauce methinks.

timidviper Thu 30-May-13 18:46:42

Hi Black! <waves> That workout looks worth a try, I have downloaded it free from Google Play onto my phone and will have a go sometime. Thanks for that.

IF didn't work for me as I have a tendency to binge when I get hungry so the fast days were counter-productive. Having said that, I tried it before low-carbing so I wouldn't rule out trying it again at some point if I needed to.

ToomuchIsBackOnBootcamp Thu 30-May-13 19:10:31

Really enjoyed my food today:

B 2 eggs scrambled, made with butter and double cream
L big salad with cucumber, feta and oil plus egg in purgatory
D smallish steak with cream and mustard sauce, salad, and a little bit of butternut squash/sweet potato mix (yes I know too carby really for bootcamp but was delish)


Plus, was reading the June Issue of Top Sante magazine and their big health piece was about giving up on the "calories in/out" theory and eating "smarter" quoting Zoe harcombe and Gary Taubes, re sugar/insulin. Not full on approval of LC-ing but def dismissing "diet" foods. We will get there with the message!!

BlackAffronted Thu 30-May-13 19:50:20

smile timid, id wondered where you were hiding! Im going to do that workout 3 times a week, it really is over so quickly! I was out of breath, but felt fab. Please post how you find it.

My kids are all demanding egg clouds, so looks like Im cooking lots at the weekend smile

BlackAffronted Thu 30-May-13 19:51:58

Menu for today -

B - Egg clouds, crispy bacon & buttered msuhrooms
L - Low carb sausages, mushrooms, red pepper oven roasted in coconut oil & paprika
D - garlic butter chicken & asparagus

BigStickBIWI Thu 30-May-13 19:57:33

My IF consists of not eating breakfast if I'm not hungry. If I am hungry, then I eat.

But the whole 5:2 thing I really didn't enjoy. I remember, when I was calorie counting years ago, sitting with a plate of boiled celery for my dinner, because that was all that I had left in my calorie allowance for the day. I am never, ever, ever going down that track again.

And for Bootcampers, I would really only advocate IF once you are well into low carbing and you know that you are ketogenically-adapted. Which means that you have completed a Bootcamp at the very least.

Yama Thu 30-May-13 20:00:46

Oh, will be doing those egg clouds this weekend. Thanks for the recipe.

I've only gone and eaten too much again today. All good low carb/high fat food but too much nonetheless.

B - scrambled eggs with parma hama and butter
S - Lidl yoghurt and milled flaxseeds
L - mega salad with burger and chicken thigh
D - two lovely lamb chops with cauli rice

ecuse Thu 30-May-13 20:17:02

That looks like a perfectly reasonable amount of food to me, Yama. But then, I am a glutton.

warzonemummy Thu 30-May-13 20:20:38

Ladies, I have been lurking daily but haven't posted. Since beginning if bootcamp I have lost 8 lb which is great. I am breast feeding my 10 month old around 10 times per day and she is pretty big baby. I started using myfitnesspal just to check on my intake and I realise that I actually eat too many carbs. I then got sidetracked and ate fruits, I ate too many apricots, mangos, peaches and plums, I am basically o. The pat to self destruction. I even ate rice today. I didn't even want it but I still did. Now I am sitting here feeling really bloated and sick.

Can not hose of you on Mfp p,ease add me and help me be on track. Oh And looks like I am eating too few calories these days 900-1000 daiy. Help... My name is same as here.

warzonemummy Thu 30-May-13 20:24:24

Sorry for typos typing with one finger as I rock nod feed baby

Ruprekt Thu 30-May-13 20:32:18

Lovely food again today. smilesmilesmile

B scram egg with butter and cream, fried mushrooms

L cheese slices

D Salmon steak with creamed mushrooms and spinach

4 pints of water.....slosh slosh
Peppermint tea

captainmummy Thu 30-May-13 20:35:39

Warzone - bit confused! Are you trying to bootcamp? Have you read the rules?

warzonemummy Thu 30-May-13 20:38:46

I have been but side tracked big time sad

captainmummy Thu 30-May-13 20:38:49

Not felt well today, headachey and queasy - bit like carb-flu except i've been LCing since June last year!

Breakfast 2 scrambled egggs, butter
Lunch - bit of lettuce, mayo, slices of chorizo that needed eating up.
Then made Jewish Penicillin (chicken soup) but it hasn't helped yet!
Dinner - not hungry. Have snacked on 'picky' things all day, Lidl yog,brazil nuts, cheese, coffee with cream. Think I'll jsut get an early night.

captainmummy Thu 30-May-13 20:42:18

Warzone - reaquaint yourself with the Rules (on the spreadsheet) and when you feel ready - jump in!

BTW lots of us don't bother with MFP, the red 'warnings' on fat and calories are too off-putting! We don't count calories, it is not necessary. You should be getting plenty of calories from fat and protein - and this will keep you full up.

Stop eating fruit and rice, they will bloat you and make your bloodsugar crash.

Doshusallie Thu 30-May-13 21:40:41

Brekkie was 2 hard boiled eggs
Lunch was scrambled eggs with smoked salmon
Snacks pork scratchings
Tea was 3 celery sticks, with cheddar, ham, and mayo

Yama Thu 30-May-13 22:26:06

Thanks for saying so Ecuse. It's the portion sizes though. When you are eating such nice food, it's very easy to eat more of it. grin

CrabbyBigBottom Thu 30-May-13 22:48:16

Beryl... "It's official, no matter what you do with an almond, it will always be 6.5g carb/100g."

What on earth have waitrose been doing with their toasted ones then (10.5g)? Coating them in bloody sugar? I think I'll keep away from nuts for now, it's too confusing! Glad you found your cat, it's horrible when you think something might have happened to them.

I was in the supermarket today and DD was in the car with the dog. She came in and found me, pale and red eyed, crying, saying "mum I'm sorry"... I thought she'd let the dog out of the car by mistake and she'd been hit by a car. Myc heart went through the floor. It wasn't that, thankfully; DD was resting her feet on the dashboard, pushed too hard and cracked the bloody windscreen. hmm Inconvenient and bloody expensive but still, no blood spilled.

B - smoked salmon in creme fraiche
L - some gouda cheese with little tomatoes (3.1g carbs per 100)
D - smoked mackeral with celeriac mash and roasted broccoli
S - total greek yoghurt with double cream and vanilla

mermaidspurse Fri 31-May-13 08:51:03

I'm on the move down again, so just posting to say hang in there anyone who has got a bit stuck.
The only thing I have cut back on is my afternoon coffee hit.

I have also noticed that hunger pangs have faded away and I don't need to snack like I initially did.

A massive flowers to biwi and willie and everyone for posting and sweeping me along with you. I never thought I would be able to lose weight and in such an enjoyable way.
Bumbles off to pilates with a big grin plastered on my face.

snowballinashoebox Fri 31-May-13 08:54:07

duh! epic name change fail, mermaid changes back into a snowball!

BigStickBIWI Fri 31-May-13 08:58:04


Well done!

I ventured onto the scales this morning, to see that my Italian escapades have added 2lbs to me. Hopefully those will have gone by Monday ...

Ruprekt Fri 31-May-13 09:12:25

Am now 175 lbs......please add me to spreadsheet Willie.

2 lbs down. smilesmile

BigStickBIWI Fri 31-May-13 09:13:34

That's where those 2lbs came from ...

BerylStreep Fri 31-May-13 09:16:07

Crabby, most glass breakages can be fixed for free under your insurance and it doesn't affect your no claims. Might be worth checking out?

Back in the game this am. 2 eggs scrambled with butter and a bulletproof coffee to get me through training in a bit. My glutes and hams are v sore from yesterday so it'll be upper body and a wee jog today I reckon!
Is anyone else strength training while doing this woe? I can't remember the other posters name who was using protein powder, and biwi you train don't you? How do you feel this woe is impacting your training? I have never felt better or more focussed than I do at the moment (forgetting yesterdays slip up blush) I actually feel like there is no reason why I can't reach my goal - I really hope the stats match up to how I'm feeling when I get my body composition test done next week <nervous>
Because I am starting to doubt a little bit how well the woe is doing for my weight loss <hides from the big stick> my trainer keeps wanting to make me eat porridge and things sad

halfspamhalfbrisket - you're back on the spreadsheet

Right chaps, thanks to everyone who has weighed in

Biggest Loser of the Week - MrsCoyote / couch25cakes
Biggest Overall Loser - froufroulala / Kiwigirl42
Biggest %age Loser Overall - WestleyAndButtockUp

<wild applause>

QueenofDreams Fri 31-May-13 10:05:36

Yay, another pound down this morning! This means that I'm now just over 2 stone lighter than I was last year. It also means I'm getting tantalisingly close to dropping down into the next stone grin It's funny thinking that a year ago I was happy to be down in the 12s. Now I'm looking like I'll be dropping down into the 10s in the next couple of weeks. gringrin

Breakfast was scrambled egg, smoked salmon and boiled asparagus with loads of butter. DD ate some for me as usual

Lunch will be chicken and chorizo kebabs again.

Not sure about dinner yet, I had fish last night so tonight will probably be the chilli chicken.

NewStartNewStory Fri 31-May-13 10:34:48

Ok i have a question about pain, hindrance of weight loss and suggested approach.
Is it better to take the pain killers/anti-inflams then to not take them. The pain is at a level where pain killers is about copeable but pain killers would make the day go a bit nicer.

Surely, take the pain killers!?

And bullet step away from the porridge. I started this morning feeling angry at all the diet advice over the decades (think any womens mag diet article) that said something like, "eat muesli or porridge for breakfast and it will fill you up til lunchtime"


it will have you thinking you're an abnormal failure by mid-morning as you fall off your low-cal diet wagon again 2 hours into the day

rubybricks Fri 31-May-13 11:04:02

morning everyone!

just marking place, had same breakfast as usual - had planned yoghurt instead but just didn't feel like it, will maybe have that for lunch.
flagging here with low energy levels, just need to get back in the zone.

have upped water intake so hopefully that will make a difference, but keep giving in to the odd glass of wine and then get my 'sod it' head on and have crisps or whatever sad

off to make broccoli and stilton soup, hope everyone has a good day

BigStickBIWI Fri 31-May-13 11:12:15

bullet well, you won't lose the weight if you keep dropping off the wagon! Simple as that.

I train regularly (slightly less regularly at the moment as I'm injured). I go to the gym with a trainer once a week, (for a year, after I first started low carbing seriously I was seeing him twice a week) for a fairly brutal session, and I try to go on my own at least once a week.

In between I am/was running - up to three times a week, training for a 5K run in October. I completed the C25K programme about three weeks ago, but have had problems with my shins, hence scaling down the exercise. My osteopath has cleared me to start running again as of next week, though, so I'll be back to doing some form of exercise at least 6 days a week.

I have never found this WOE to impact on the training that I do and, increasingly - especially when I'm running - I train in a fasted state. My body is now so well adapted to fat-burning, that I have plenty of fuel 'on board' and no need for carbs.

I think it's only really serious, endurance athletes/sportspeople who may need to consider upping their carbs. People 'like us' certainly don't need carbs to cope with exercise.

If you're really interested, there is a good book about it here

I certainly wouldn't take the 'advice' of your trainer and start eating more carbs. That way fatness lies ...

NewStartNewStory Fri 31-May-13 11:41:19

I have to say I can end up doing 20-30hrs training a week and I wouldn't consider upping my carbs. In fact I can cope with the longer training sessions better when i am low carbing. Although I do need to make sure I getting enough salts and water during training (and this is nearly double the amount of water that i used to drink and thankfully a pee break mid training session is possible ) It does take a while to adjust though and i did suffer from carb flu but found a handful of nuts would help in the transition phase. But I didn't cut back training when I started this woe the first time, I actually stepped up training which probably didn't help blush

NewStartNewStory Fri 31-May-13 11:50:34

Actually, i had a really positive experience yesterday. Went out with some friends after training and we were grabbing lunch. I was being 'picky' trying to find something lc. I got asked what I was avoiding and one of the girls piped up "Oh like paleo" a few questions later but very positive conversation. Not a drive for conversion but more a how do you find Grabbing lunch from supermarket on run/affect training/suit your life style kinda thing. Nice to have some support too. Sometimes it really can feel like the whole world is against you doing this but even coach can see the difference in my ability to train now (no more passing out mid training session due to blood sugar crashing blush ) and they were completely against it in the beginning. It does take a lot to break with conventional thought process. But mind over matter and the rewards for me have been brilliant. I know i shall be working to stick with this woe hard but equally i know the benefits i have already gained.

QueenofDreams Fri 31-May-13 12:16:47

huff. I shouldn't have weighed myself again. sad
stepped on the scales just before my shower and it showed 2lb higher than what it did this morning. Now I don't know which one was the accurate measurement. Bah.

queen have you eaten or drunk anything? a litre of water weighs a kilo (2.2lb)

QueenofDreams Fri 31-May-13 12:34:19

Yeah I had breakfast, and drank some tea and some water. So that's probably it. In fact that's why I deliberately weigh myself before I eat usually, I just need to resist the temptation to step on scales later on to double check!

ToomuchIsBackOnBootcamp Fri 31-May-13 12:37:39

I always take the best one queen wink

But yes, first thing in the morning after pee, nekkid, before eating or drinking anything, should be your "true" weight.

QueenofDreams Fri 31-May-13 12:47:55

sounds good to me grin That means I've lost 3lb since Monday. I'm going to keep being good so I can hopefully drop down into the 10s next week. It's a bit pathetic, but I actually feel so damn excited at the prospect. I feel very well rewarded for resisting the crème brulee that's been sitting in the fridge looking at me grin

I've only cheated this week biwi! Honest guv! Until last Saturday afternoon I had stuck rigidly to bootcamp and then bootcamp light and my weight has been hovering around 11st. I think I got the cheat out of my system now though. Like I said I think ditching dairy and nuts might help so I'm going to give that a go and stick to full on bootcamp and ubercamp fr a few weeks.

yup bullet, i've got a wedding to go to in four weeks' time, and i'm going to cut right down on the dairy i think

Leverette Fri 31-May-13 13:04:50

I just had an omelette with a couple of slices of Quorn "chicken", big dollop of cream cheese and dollop of butter melted over.

And it was good grin

I have a baby shower to go to in 4 weeks, which is an afternoon tea type affair so I know I will cheat, so I'm going hardcore until then and then 3 weeks after that I have a weekend away where I have to wear a swimming costume shock and will be with a bunch of cake eaty people so although meals will be fine I can't diss their baking! It will be another cheaty weekend. I don't want to ruin my holiday thinking about food so I am just going to have to be strong in between these cheaty events and get back into it immediately afterwards.

3ismylot Fri 31-May-13 13:47:55

Hi all I am not a bootcamper as such but I follow paleo/primal so am pretty much living bootcamp lite grin

I love reading through your thread as its nice to see other people enjoying this woe. I have dropped 1 stone 12lbs in the last 10 weeks and can honestly see myself doing this for life now.

Just wanted to say that I agree with BIWI about training in a fasted state, I am currently training for a 5 mile run (National Lottery Anniversary run) in July and The Great North run half marathon in september and 4 days a week I get up at 530am and go straight out for a run (between 3 and 4 miles at the moment) and then have breakfast at 7am with no problems at all. Even when I start covering the longer 8-10 mile runs I plan on running on an empty stomach but maybe taking some dried fruit and nuts with me just incase.

Also Bullet have you considered making and taking paleo cakes to your weekend away and then you can still enjoy it without making yourself feel sluggish and bloated? There are some amazing recipes on the net, I love paleo cinnamon rolls every once in a while but check out pinterest for ideas depending on what things you like. Surely the only way to ruin your weekend willl be making yourself feel bad by being a sugary twat wink

CrabbyBigBottom Fri 31-May-13 13:53:59

Thanks Beryl. smile The insurance covers the cost but I have to pay £75 excess. Their partner company is autoglass, who I've had a huge pain in the arse with trying to organise them to replace it. It's booked for Sunday now, finally. It's not meant to affect your NCB, but I bet my premium goes up a bit this year. angry

kiwigirl42 Fri 31-May-13 13:57:29

Just had lovely curry made with Bart's Massaman Paste, tin of coconut milk (Blue Dragon) and chicken. Then mixed in chopped spinach and served with cauliflower. Was really yum.
The massaman paste is the nicest curry paste I've had. It spicy (cinnamonny) but not overpoweringly hot.

I also did some yoga this morning for 10 minutes. My muscles are really wasted from 6yrs of constant lying in bed with migraines (+ I have fibro from a virus I caught which landed me in hospital for 2 wks in 2007) so I am keen to get them strong again. I really like the dvd I bought. Its called Power of Yoga and was only £3.

So with the weights I scored on ebay for only £3 and the exercise bike I think I'm now sorted grin

Is anyone else still sticking to strict bootcamp? If not, what other things have you added in? I'm really keen to lose weight asap so have been sticking to strict bootcamp as much as possible.

kiwigirl42 Fri 31-May-13 14:01:11

newstartnewstory I'd say take the painkillers. I take very strong prescription painkillers for my fibro and I'm still losing weight without a problem

Hi all.

Kiwi - sounds like you have had a nightmare health wise. Glad you seem to be on the mend.

I've been feeling a bit off the last few days. Think I have a uti. Ordered some testing strips from amazon which were supposed to arrive yesterday but haven't arrived yet. It's odd as seems to come on after lunch and I feel constipated (although i am going fairly regularly) as well and really uncomfortable. Have also noticed that my urine is a bit fizzy over the last few weeks. On and off. Googled and it can be protein in the urine and a sign the body isn't dealing with protein properly which is a bit worrying. Started looking up side effects of low carbing which maybe wasn't the best idea till I know what is going on. Drinking lots of water can irritate the kidneys and too much protein can damage them. Apparently.

I have been sticking to bootcamp other than some blueberries with breakfast. Also had some red wine and strawberries last night. Been good otherwise. So I suppose that is bootcamp light really.

Haven't weighed for a few days as scales hidden under a pike of stuff in bedroom while decorating being done. Will be sorting it all later or tomorrow. I do feel lighter and DH reckons I look like I have lost weight.

Not entirely sure what I should do. Continue or introduce some more carbs. No crap carbs obv. I was planning on weighing on Monday and depending how that goes I thought I would try ubercamp for a few days to see how dairy affects me.

We go on holiday in five weeks and I was hoping to bootcamp till then. Holiday will be a challenge as it is almost four weeks driving around California!

3is - I'll have a look for some recipes, cinnamon rolls are my favourite thing to eat ever! Baking has always kind of been my 'thing' and Paleo is the way I am thinking of going long term.

BlackAffronted Fri 31-May-13 14:46:04

Ooops, have had 2 breakfasts today blush both LC though! Met a friend in town & we went for a cuppy & succumbed to a cheese omlette after having had bacon for breakfast.

QueenofDreams Fri 31-May-13 14:49:23

3is nice to see you. I got into low carbing from reading about primal/paleo. My parents just switched to primal eating a few weeks ago. my mum lost 4lb in the first week, but hasn't lost any weight since. She says they're both so much healthier now though.

3ismylot Fri 31-May-13 14:53:25

Bullet I can definately recommend paleo cinnamon rolls they are lovely especially warm grin I have founds loads of other great ideas for paleo cakes but dont get the desire like I used to so dont bake often! I have a few pinned on pinterest though ready for special occaions grin

You could even use it as a way of showing friends how great LC is wink

kiwigirl42 Fri 31-May-13 14:57:08

I'm going to go paleo long term also but will eat dairy as well. I did do paleo for a few months but fell of the wagon when ill.

ciderwithbuda you should really get yourself to the GP and get a sample sent off.

stop talking about paleo cinnamon rolls you guys! I'd LOVE a nice big cake just about now!

CrabbyBigBottom Fri 31-May-13 15:00:07

Sorry to hear about your pain, Kiwi and New. I'd heard that NSAIDS like ibuprofen can stall you, but I've no idea how or why. Could you take paracetamol instead? And if you need something stronger, add in some OTC/prescribed codiene? Careful not to double up the paracetamol though, as that will screw up your liver.

CrabbyBigBottom Fri 31-May-13 15:01:27

Buda that's a bit worrying, isn't it, about the kidneys and protein caution. Might have to do some reading about that!

HeirToTheIronThrone Fri 31-May-13 15:07:21

Buda it's weird, I think I have a bit of cystitis too... Hoping though that the gallons of water will flush it out!

3ismylot Fri 31-May-13 15:13:57

Hi Queen Yes I definately feel so much healthier since switching grin I only weigh once a fortnight but also dont get hung up on the numbers as I just love feeling better.

Kiwi I still eat dairy I am more primal than paleo, I tried really strict paleo first time and cut dairy and nightshades but was too hard and I quickly fell off the wagon, This time I am primal and loving it!

BigStickBIWI Fri 31-May-13 15:23:24

Cider - sorry you're not feeling great sad. But Googling probably wasn't a good idea!!!

Kidney problems from protein are only likely to happen if you have some kind of extant issue with your kidneys, from everything I've read. (It is one of the common criticisms levelled at low carbing, that all the protein isn't good for us. I wonder how our carnivorous ancestors managed?!)

This is from livestrong.com:

Although your kidneys work harder when consuming an increased amount of protein, UCLA states that there is little evidence to support the idea that high-protein diets cause kidney damage in people with normal kidney function. However, people already suffering from decreased kidney function can worsen their conditions by consuming too much protein. If you have any type of kidney disease or diabetes, avoid consuming large amounts of protein.

And, you should really be focusing mainly on fat on Bootcamp - your food proportions should be fat:protein:carbs (unlike how we are advised to eat, which is carbs:protein:fat - but note that protein's position in terms of relative proportions remains unchanged). Also, if you're eating fatty meats/fish, then the amount of protein in your diet will be kept lower whilst at the same time increasing the amount of fat - so chicken thighs rather than chicken breasts, pork belly rather than pork fillet, salmon rather than cod, etc.

How much water are you drinking on a daily basis?

But beyond all this, I'd definitely get yourself to the GP. Leaving something like this too long isn't a good idea - a quick course of antibiotics might be a good idea!

BigStickBIWI Fri 31-May-13 15:27:14

And a really interesting piece here with lots of studies/reviews to support his point of view that high protein consumption does not damage healthy kidneys.

HeirToTheIronThrone Fri 31-May-13 16:12:35

Crap, I was doing so well and then inhaled three chocolate hobnobs this afternoon. Stupid brain. I need to lose 0.6lb to get into the next stone - come on me, don't be a sugary twat!

kiwigirl42 Fri 31-May-13 17:47:58

there must be something in the air. I've just put a bag of frozen blueberries/ raspberries in a pan and topped with crumble made of ground almonds, butter and tbsp of honey. I just really fancy something to eat with the 600ml tub of thick cream in the fridge which I forgot about and expires tomorrow.

I'll make the kids ice cream tomorrow and make them eat it all in one go so I don't get a sniff of it. I love ice cream and love my ice cream maker. Thats the main reason I'm on this thread in the first place, mind!

Ruprekt Fri 31-May-13 18:34:49

Great idea kiwi!

Crumble! smilesmile

B yoghurt with cream and blueberries

No lunch

S bowl broccoli and cheese soup

D creamed mushrooms with spinach

Well went to GP and it's official. I have a uti. And now have antibiotics. I mentioned low carb and she didn't think it would make a difference except would change urine obv. Phew!

So I will carry on.

BIWI - I am eating fat and eating normal amounts of protein really. Water - last couple of days 9 big glasses. Today not so much but will rectify.

BIWI Fri 31-May-13 19:41:21

Phew! Glad you have those antibiotics! Hopefully all will start to calm down within the next 24-36 hours.

ToomuchIsBackOnBootcamp Fri 31-May-13 19:56:06

Evening all, hope everyone looking forward to the weekend.

I am very happy that, despite being up most of the night with a poorly Ds including a 1am dash to the sick kids hospital for steroids (he had rapidly developed croup but as he is 7 they wanted to check it wasn't anything more serious as it is not as common in the over 5s, apparently) and feeling very tired and a wee bit emotional today, I have NOT fallen into carbs, yay me!

B Lidl yoghurt with vanilla and cinnamon
S two digs in the peanut butter jar, yes double dipper blush
L smallish steak with fried egg and buttery spring greens
S couple of tablespoons of coleslaw
D big bowl of home made chicken soup - made and brought round by my lovely friend/neighbour when she heard what had happened last night, bless her. It did have carrots in it, but I decided the love put into it counted for much more grin

ToomuchIsBackOnBootcamp Fri 31-May-13 19:57:06

Get well soon cider

ugh ciderwithbuda you poor thing

if you are horribly uncomfortable, take yourself to the loo with an enormous bottle of water and a good book and keep drinking and weeing. vile i know, but i have found it helps

i used to get them very frequently so you have my complete sympathy. low carbing has really helped because of the quantity of water that now goes through me!

changeforthebetter Fri 31-May-13 20:36:40

Hi thanks for welcome back.

DD is facing SN diagnosis - better to know but daunting as an LP to think about years ahead.

I am not sure if I am getting this LC thing right. I do not eat like this every night, but this was my treat meal according to LC principles. What do you think?

Rare Friday without kids so made M&S chorizo burger, merguez sausages (4, they are small) with sweet potato "chips" fried in olive oil plus two large helpings of steamed green beans and broccoli. Mayo on side. Pudding was a slab of coconut bread (MN recipe) with raspberries, blueberries and a 2 tsp double cream - (ahem, two glasses red wine and one lime &mint mojito from M&S blush)

BerylStreep Fri 31-May-13 21:12:19

Yes Cider, hope the UTI responds well to the antibiotics.

I have had my DD's birthday party today, and have managed to avoid all party food, but did have to down quite a lot of wine to settle my nerves after the party. blush

Thankfully it is the last of the party season.

Unfortunately DH filmed some of the party, and I look quite a fairly hefty girl in it. When I look in the mirror I am very good at focusing on the nice parts - lovely eyes, cheeky smile, pointy chin (well the first one is, not the others), great boobs… However the camera is unkind. It showed the other chins, the beefy arms, the calfs and thighs. Oh dear sad

timidviper Fri 31-May-13 21:34:56

Referring to the conversation about exercising fasted. My personal trainer has upped his own training to do various challenges this year and, having listened patiently to my low carb witterings, told me today that he has been reading a lot and getting advice so is now eating a paleo diet!

CrabbyBigBottom Fri 31-May-13 22:55:59

change my DD has just been diagnosed with Aspergers. I personally do think it's better to know - it makes sense of a lot of things for me. It must be an emotional time for you though, especially if you're a LP. flowers

Your meal sounds bit carby for bootcamp proper - sweet potatoes and berries aren't allowed, I don't think. Have you read the rules on the spreadsheet?

CrabbyBigBottom Fri 31-May-13 23:00:04

Cider hope the abx clear things up.

Beryl that's why I won't let anyone point a camera at me!

B - bit of cheese with little tomatoes
L - courgette, mushroom, chorizo and tomatoes in pesto
S - a few more tomatoes with cheese
D - black farm sausages with celeriac mash and roasted broccoli
2 glasses wine, loads of water

That's a lot of tomatoes, isn't it, but they're 3.1g per 100g carbs. Is that ok?

MaryBeardfanclub Fri 31-May-13 23:01:03

I have guests so of course I made a raspberry pavlova and had a large helping to boot. I enjoyed every mouthful but my it was sweet!

B: 2 hb eggs mashed with butter
L: bolognaise sauce, veg, boursin melted in
S: packet of ham
D: ribs, salad with bacon & avocado; hm coleslaw + aforementioned pavlova
hope all have a good weekend smile

NewStartNewStory Sat 01-Jun-13 04:01:59

Thanks for that advice crabby can't take NSAIDS so that is not a problem. my normal pain killers is paracetamol, co-codamol or amitriptylene. Managed with just physio tape - it really is brilliant stuff! but will probably suffer for a night of dancing tomo. RICE will be the plan tomo. And just to clarify before BIWI twitched that stick or Willy starts being cross I do mean rest, ice, compression and elevation kinda RICE. winkgrin I may or many not have consumed far too much lemonade vodka tonight. And may or may not have more then sore knee tomo.

Cided i hope you feel better soon. UTIs are miserable things to suffer from.

CrabbyBigBottom Sat 01-Jun-13 09:07:49

New glad you had a good time! I take co-dydramol for my back - I hope they don't impede weight loss.

Toomuch I hope your DS is on the mend now; how worrying for you.

Gorgeous day here and I'm feeling a bit brighter this morning (have been feeling really dull and sluggish all week). Happy Weekend, everyone! smile

ALMONDGATE - when In waitrose yesterday I checked all the almond counts and the toasted ones are 10.3 and all others 6.5. I have a theory... Is it because when toasted they are lighter so you get more in 100g so therefore more carbs?!?

ALMONDGATE - when In waitrose yesterday I checked all the almond counts and the toasted ones are 10.3 and all others 6.5. I have a theory... Is it because when toasted they are lighter so you get more in 100g so therefore more carbs?!?

BIWI Sat 01-Jun-13 09:13:50

grin at RICE!

change - you need to go and have a look at the rules of Bootcamp and print off the list of allowed veg! Sweet potatoes are too carby (there's a clue in the name wink). How many carbs were in the burger and the sausages - apart from the fact that they are also processed - and there are, presumably sweeteners in the coconut bread?

And as for the lime mojito ...


Yes mrshp I wonder whether they lose water weight and therefore they carbs are more concentrated per 100g

sybilfaulty Sat 01-Jun-13 09:17:22

Sending love to all those feeling under par. Hope you rally soon.

I need help, girls. I have come back from my holidays and seem to have lost my way a bit. I am resisting the scales as I have a period to boot, but can see I have put on and am glum. I shall try to ubercamp from Tuesday (as I am out on Monday night) but need to get a grip.

Mrs HP - M &S do wonderful salted roasted almonds. I have consumed several bags over my holiday in testament to their wonderfulness, and now am a porker. Their carb count is advertised as being 4g / 100, of which sugars are 4.4g! Shurely shome mishtake!!

BIWI Sat 01-Jun-13 09:20:47

I think you're probably right about that, MrsHP.

sybil - make sure you have planned your next few days' meals. And don't buy anything you shouldn't be eating! Check the ingredients on the back of the pack of those almonds just to make sure they haven't got added sugar - it wouldn't surprise me!

CrabbyBigBottom Sat 01-Jun-13 09:27:22

ALMONDGATE - when In waitrose yesterday I checked all the almond counts and the toasted ones are 10.3 and all others 6.5. I have a theory... Is it because when toasted they are lighter so you get more in 100g so therefore more carbs?!?

By jove I think you've got it - it must be the water loss involved in the toasting process. Maybe in 2012 Waitrose were experimenting with a super-hydrator (i'm visualising a huge machine like the higgs boson particle generator) that allowed them to produce toasted almonds at 3.9 carbs per hundred. But then they discovered that there were terrible, mutating side effects.... grin

rubybricks Sat 01-Jun-13 09:30:13

morning all, just had yoghurt with 6 blueberries for breakfast to liven things up - first time in weeks it hasn't been eggs and it was a nice change. also chugging down the fizzy water like there's no tomorrow.

hoping everyone has a good weekend, keep posting what you're eating to give me meal ideas!

rubybricks Sat 01-Jun-13 09:31:01

grin at almondgate...

Morning all.

Not feeling too bad this morning. Thanks for all good wishes and sympathy. Willie will bear that advice in mind but was trying to drink lots of water last night and found the more I drank the more I needed to go to the loo and the more painful it was. So I took some bicarb and went to bed.

Just had a yummy breakfast of 6 strawberries chopped in half and mixed into a tub of Fage yoghurt with a teaspoon of flaxseeds. Yum.

Yesterdays food was:
B - Fage yoghurt with blueberries
L - big salad of rocket, spring onions, cherry toms, chicken, feta and mayonnaise all mixed together.
D - BBQ - two sausages, a lamb steak, a chicken and chorizo kebab and salad. Three glasses of white wine.

Found my weighing scales and weighed in this morning. Was 14 8 on Monday and was disappointed as was desperate to be 14 7. Well I'm not 14 7. I'm 14 6!!!!!!! Very pleased. And determined that will still be 14 6 (or less!) for Monday's weigh.

I am starting C25k on Monday. I started it a few months ago and did two runs but then had a week of crap weather and stopped and have had various reasons/excuses not to start again. So am starting on Monday. We go on holiday in less than five weeks so I won't have finished by then but will take my trainers and carry on then. Planning on running Monday's, Wednesday's and Fridays. Not sure whether to start running fasted or not? Might give it a go on Monday and see. Will be going around 8.30 when I get back from taking DS to school.

BIWI Sat 01-Jun-13 09:50:04

Yay to 14.6 thanks!

Good luck with the running. I'm starting again tomorrow. (Have had to go right back to the beginning due to injury and have been ordered to take it easy and slow!)

I always run fasted if I can - I far prefer it.

daisychicken Sat 01-Jun-13 13:45:02

Hi everyone, thought I'd jump in with a intro before starting afresh with LC - I'm a "fallen off the wagon" low-carber having lost 3stone on this WOL... I got a bit lax; money's been v tight (still is) etc etc - all those excuses - I still watch what I eat and avoid quite a lot of carbs BUT.. the weight is going on, I'm spotty again and just hate what I'm doing to myself. I have Fibromyalgia so exercise is difficult (I try to walk the dog every day but distance depends on how I feel). My DM has coeliacs and although I don't, I do have some intolerance to gluten so eating LC is just a bonus; I'm also carb addicted so again LC is right for me. Have I made enough reasons to convince myself to LC again yet?!

I'm currently reminding myself of recipes and hunting through the threads but my biggest problem with LC is breakfasts - I can't cook early in the mornings, I struggle just to get up so early breakfasts need to be easy - any suggestions would be good.

I will be weighing myself when I have plucked up courage to do so!

BIWI Sat 01-Jun-13 13:48:44

Welcome, daisychicken! smile

Plenty of reasons there to join us I think!

lots of lovely recipes here to inspire you

Just treat breakfast like it's any other meal. No need to have special breakfast foods.

Lots of us have Total full fat yoghurt for breakfast - in Bootcamp Light you can add a few berries to that.

Thanks BIWI. Very nice to see that number on scales.

I think I will try running fasted. I have been waking up really early so might even manage to do it before I need to take DS to school.

Hi daisy chicken. As BIWI said lots of us have yoghurt for breakfast. I like the Total full fat Greek one but lots of people on here rate the Lidl one. Lidl is also great for LCing on a budget apparently.

Other breakfast I have are egg mayonnaise (can make up day before),
Slices if ham spread with cream cheese and rolled up,
Slices of smoked salmon with cream cheese
Hard boiled eggs

CrabbyBigBottom Sat 01-Jun-13 15:01:55

Daisy a breakfast I really like that's very quick is smoked salmon in creme fraiche. It sounds really extravagant but I buy whatever salmon that on offer and a little bit goes a long way - I chop it finely and use loads of creme fraiche. I add a teaspoon of 'caviar' - lumpfish roe that costs about £2 a jar for extra fishy excitement. grin It's like eating a bowl of savoury yoghurt, almost, and really easy to eat (I can be a bit funny about eating first thing in the morning).

HeirToTheIronThrone Sat 01-Jun-13 15:22:33

Ugh, I deffo think u have a uti too - guzzling water and a tiny bit of cranberry juice mixed in (not good I know but can't get to doctors til Monday). My oldest friend and her DP are here for the weekend so tonight we are having coq au vin with celeriac dauphinoise and I have IPD chocolate mousse chilling in the fridge. It's a beautiful day here, hope you all have sunshine too.

kiwigirl42 Sat 01-Jun-13 15:35:27

had a migraine last night but just recovered enough to have a bowl of chicken/ spinach curry over broccoli and a bit of blueberry/ raspberry almond crumble with thick cream. got lovely full belly.
Weird but true fact - even if my head is pounding, it doesn't hurt while I am actually eating? whats that all about then?

ToomuchIsBackOnBootcamp about your son' s croup. I was talking to a friend the other night about this - her son is 7 and has a rare type of croup that older kids can have called croup (can't remember first word - starts with E but will find out)
Apparently it edges on to being a type of asthma too. So try to get your son to a pediatrician for further help.

peggotty Sat 01-Jun-13 18:04:49

Hi Folks, sorry to gategrash, just need a bit of advice. I'm doing the bootcamp (in a lurky way grin) to lose about a stone. already lost 2 stones Low carbing last year. This is the first week - i've come through carb flu, even lost 4 pounds!! But today I am having THE MOST AWFUL cravings for rubbish - I'm on my own as dh and kids away so that I can study for an exam on Tuesday. I am struggling really badly with temptations for biscuits etc. Help!

I've not given in, today I had cold sausage for breakfast, homemade lc coleslaw with cheese grated into it for lunch and have just had chilli (no kidney beans) on a bed of crunchy shredded iceberg lettuce. Drank loads of water, 2 coffees with double cream.... but I'm still craaaaavvving!! What should I do? I know it's just psychological - how do I get through it?

Thanks so much for any advice!

peggotty Sat 01-Jun-13 18:05:20

Oh and I've already had bowl of lidl yoghurt for snack!

BIWI Sat 01-Jun-13 18:13:58

Go out for a walk? It's a nice day now, so you can get some exercise as well as distracting yourself!

Yama Sat 01-Jun-13 18:44:44

Horrible sore neck today - must've be the way I slept. Sausages and celeriac wedges done in duck fat for dinner were lovely.

Yama Sat 01-Jun-13 18:46:23

Must've been.
sorry, on phone, hard to correct.

captainmummy Sat 01-Jun-13 19:39:36

Peggotty - lots of us drink liquorice tea in those 'sweet' cravey moments - its sweet in itself, so may be of help?

Doshusallie Sat 01-Jun-13 21:20:36

B - 2 hard boiled eggs and a small teaspoon of PB
L - big salad (celery, cucumber, lettuce) with a tin of mackerel fillets in oil, and 2 cheese slices with pâté
S - some chicken bits of the boys fajitas
Tea - 2 salmon fillets with lots of buttery courgettes and mushrooms.

CrabbyBigBottom Sat 01-Jun-13 21:34:00

Big arse. Drank much too much. sad

B/L - eggs in clouds - this is gorgeous!
D - BBQ - smoky chicken with asparagus, courgette, tomatoes, in hollandaise sauce. Bloody wonderful, but I drank ever such a lot of wine. hmm

2 cups of tea and loads of water.

I feel like a nice bit of pudding now. blush

peggotty Sat 01-Jun-13 21:35:26

Thanks BIWI and captainmummy. I'm afraid I caved and had some dark chocolate blush. BUT it was the 70% stuff - not ideal for bootcamp but not disastrous in terms of carbs? Will have a look for liquorice tea - thanks! The choc has got rid of the craving - I won't have again though til I'm out of bootcamp....

Ruprekt Sat 01-Jun-13 22:05:55

Peggotty.....pm me and I will send you some liquorice teabags as I am not keen on them!

At least you can then try them and see if you like them. smilesmilesmile

ToomuchIsBackOnBootcamp Sat 01-Jun-13 22:47:17

kiwigirl that's interesting, thanks. The doc we saw said it was a mild ish dose and he seems to be getting better as fast as he went downhill. The doc said it was much more common in babies-up to 5 age group but still seen quite regularly in primary school age (we are Scottish so that would mean up to age 11/12) very unusual in teenage/adults. My DH his dad is mildly asthmatic and so is my DSD his half sister (more than DH) so I will keep a close eye on him, thanks.

B/L 2 eggs scrambled with butter and double cream
S peanut butter
D roast chicken thighs with cauliflower cheese

The cauli cheese was made to teaandthorazines recipe in the food section, which i love, except I didn't have Philly (well I thought I did but it had turned and started to go foosty so in the bin) so I used some leftover Le Roule garlic soft cheese instead. Next time I will taste and check before I bung it all in, whew, certainly no vampires will be near chez TooMuch tonight! Was still yummy tho.

Not enough veg/salad, must do better tomorrow. Reporting on this thread is very helpful as when you actually think about what you've had and see it written down, the gaps become clear. No wonder dieticians always advocate keeping a food diary!

QueenofDreams Sat 01-Jun-13 22:50:09

B: Mushroom, spinach and chorizo frittata
L: yoghurt, double cream and a few nuts
D: Sea bass fillet, cauliflower, broccoli, wilted spinach and some cheese sauce.

Drank a large glass of wine last night, but completely back on the wagon today. Also DP brought home some proper choc chip cookies. I love proper, chewy, doughy cookies. I didn't eat any though /halo grin

ToomuchIsBackOnBootcamp Sat 01-Jun-13 22:53:09

peggoty in my first bootcamp I would distract myself from evening cravings by having a hot bath and reading a good book. The heat of the bath seemed to help calm all the mental thoughts and it also made me drink more water to rehydrate, which also helps. But this was in October, not June so an evening walk may be a better idea!

BIWI Sat 01-Jun-13 22:55:45

So today:

No breakfast (another IF day for me - please only do this if you are ketogenically-adapted)
Lunch - 2 Black Farmer sausages, red cabbage and spicy leeks (veg was left over from dinner during the week)
Dinner - pan-fried fillet steak, salad with garlic vinaigrette and celeriac tartiflette.

Seriously, if you cook nothing else from the recipe thread YOU HAVE TO COOK CELERIAC TARTIFLETTE BEFORE YOU DIE!

BIWI Sat 01-Jun-13 22:56:03


It is fabulously gorgeous.

maidofmuss Sat 01-Jun-13 23:04:09

Hi all, back after a few days away and (like Sybil) bit glum as I have not been bootcamping (my greedy version of bootcamp light) and need a bit of help getting back on track – haven't eaten any rice, pasta, bread or cake etc but have unleashed my inner guzzler/gobbler and had way too much dark chocolate and white wine. Know it'll show on the scales tomorrow so not looking forward to weighing myself. Went for a longish walk today and ate pretty well (apart from the last three squares of chocolate – realise I just can't have it in the house as I can't stop at one or two squares)
B yoghurt with dessert spoon flax seeds and three cut-up strawberries
L roast beef with horseradish wrapped round asparagus
D braised beef meatballs in tomato/onion sauce (went easy on sauce) with courgette/garlic strips
one gin and tonic, those squares of dark chocolate
small handful of pistachio nuts

HeinzSight Sat 01-Jun-13 23:04:24

Can I dip my toe into this thread? I've been doing WW for a few months and my weight loss has slowed right down. I've done low carb before and it worked but I fell off the wagon because I kept cooking the same things confused and got bored. I'm aiming to learn more recipes etc. I'm 'doing' phase 1 of Atkins. I've lost 4lbs this week!! After weeks of only losing a third of a pound a week!!

What are your fave low carb dishes?

Do you mind posting the celeriac tartiflette recipe please? (--trying to avoid trawling all 22 pages of the recipe thread--)

I have just bought my first ever celeriac today

HeirToTheIronThrone Sat 01-Jun-13 23:29:19

Well dinner was a success, though the IPD chocolate mousse turns out really dense, more like those v thick Gu chocolate pots than actual mousse (which was nice but not what I was after). 2 glasses wine and litres of water, will be up peeing all night I think! Big long walk planned for tomorrow in the sunshine. Night all!

BIWI Sun 02-Jun-13 00:12:56

Celeriac Tartiflette

Rough quantities:

500g celeriac, cut into small chunks, boiled in salted water till just tender (15-20 mins)
2 little packs smoked lardons (they are usually linked packs)
2-3 echalion shallots, finely chopped
2 cloves garlic
100ml white wine
sloosh of double cream
a bay leaf or two
25g butter
Reblochon cheese - around 200-250g - cut into dice

While the celeriac is cooking, fry the shallots, lardons, garlic and bayleaves in butter in a frying pan, till all are soft/tender. Add the white wine and the cream and continue to cook gently till all is reduced.

Once the celeriac is cooked, drain it, put it into a casserole dish, add the onion/bacon/wine/cream mixture, stir in and then add the Reblochon. Stir together and season with black pepper.

Bake in the oven with a lid on the dish for around 20 minutes at around 180-200, then take the lid off and continue to cook for another 20 minutes until golden brown on top.

Lovely served with a green salad with a garlicky vinaigrette dressing.

ToomuchIsBackOnBootcamp Sun 02-Jun-13 00:16:01

lily if you don't want to trawl the recipe thread, have you gone to the recipe section?

See the blue bar just under the Mumsnet logo at top of page with talk/reviews/blogs etc?
Go along to Food, then choose Recipes, then low carb recipes section, the celeriac tartiflette is the very bottom one of the list (most recently added I guess).

ToomuchIsBackOnBootcamp Sun 02-Jun-13 00:17:08

Oops x-post with our glorious leader <slinks away>

ToomuchIsBackOnBootcamp Sun 02-Jun-13 00:19:17

Although directions to recipe section may help heinz <did I save it?>

BIWI Sun 02-Jun-13 00:22:07

maidofmuss - your best bet is getting back onto Bootcamp. So - jettison the flax, the strawberries, nuts and chocolate.

Seriously. All that they are doing is hampering your weight loss.

Thank you BIWI and Toomuch!

MrsCoyote Sun 02-Jun-13 07:42:45

B full fat yoghurt
L salmon steak with salad
D cauli cheese and two HB eggs

maidofmuss Sun 02-Jun-13 10:22:42

you are right BIWI - must re-focus...
This week back to Bootcamp and I will:
Not buy chocolate to remove temptation
Get liquorice tea
Not eat flax seeds/berries (go back to eggs/mushrooms or salmon/cream cheese instead of Total, which I always want to embellish)
Ignore the call of the wine
(think I've got that last line in twice - can't scroll down on phone to check - but bears repeating!)
Hope everyone better/well/enjoying their Sunday

Ignore the call of the wine


Ignore the call of the wine shall be my mantra too this week! I had too much this week. Back on to bootcamp proper tomorrow. Still bootcamp light here today although won't be having wine tonight.

Heir - sorry to hear you have uti too. It's miserable. Thankfully antibs have kicked in for me and am feeling much better. What I did find useful before I went to doc was dissolving bicarb in some water and drinking it. Definitely took the sting away.

Food yesterday
B - Greek yoghurt with chopped strawberries and a teasp of flaxseeds
S - a cold sausage
L - salad of rocket, cherry toms, red onion, feta and chicken all mixed together with mayonnaise
D - steak, mashed turnip, fried mushrooms and onion and a tablespoon of peas. I also had three French fries.

Welcome Heinz - I came to low carb from WW too. I did lose almost 2.5 stone last year on WW but found the WW mantra of you can have anything once you count the points meant I fudged points a lot and being able to drink wine meant I drank far too much which would hen lead to me eating too much. I was gaining and losing the same half stone for the last 6/7 months so decided I needed a complete change. I did Atkins years ago too. I'd forgotten how good I feel eating low carb.

BIWI - what does ketogenically-adapted mean? How do you know?

Esker Sun 02-Jun-13 11:53:08

Hi all! I am a casual (ie undisciplined) Low Carber but have been lurking on here and am feeling inspired so am going to Boot Camp as of tomorrow.
Haven't got much to lose, about half a stone that has crept on since wedding, but I'm short so it shows!
Am on final day of week spent with inlaws. They are Indian so it has been breads and rice and fruit and sweets all the way. Delicious but ruinous. We fly home tonight so landing at Heathrow tomorrow will mark the start of Boot Camp for me! Have made a shopping list as per the Rules.

Yama Sun 02-Jun-13 14:16:45

Afternoon all and welcome Esker.

Glorious day here on the West Coast of Scotland. Dd and I have been out for a lovely cycle along the coast.

B - Scrambled eggs with parma ham and duck fat
S - Greek yoghurt
L - Salad with coleslaw, chicken and pate
S - Just polished off the egg mayo I made for the kids' lunch
D - Will be roast chicken leg with salad and nibbley things like olives, cheeses and pate.

Right, back off out to sit outside. Dh and the dc are weeding the back garden.

couch25cakes Sun 02-Jun-13 14:37:10

Hello all, not been here since Friday. Doing ok, particularly in eating out.
I made some oopsie rolls on Friday, then when dd and I called into McDonald's I transferred my cheeseburger into one of my own rolls. It was yummy. Then we went for a mammoth three hour swim at coral reef in Bracknell, and afterwards went to the cafe. I had a chilli and salad, which was the only option that late in the day. DH brought a takeaway home and he'd brought me a lamb shush kebab without the pitta- he's learning smile
Sine then things have been ok. Enjoyed my bacon (oopsie) roll yesterday morning. Had a little slip last night with a couple of drinks but otherwise things going well. DH is off at the supermarket armed with a long list of meats and fats, and I've a food plan done so this week should be ok.

BlackAffronted Sun 02-Jun-13 16:23:02

Just popped in quickly, will catch up on the thread in a minute. Just wanted to see if anyone is following this guy, who is doing an experiment? He is eating low carb for 21 days, but also eating over 5,000 cals a day, to prove that cals in/cals out is not true. He updates youtube everyday with his weight & measurements www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdfU0PPsvy4.

HalfSpamHalfBrisket Sun 02-Jun-13 16:53:14

I need to share this brilliant breakfast recipe - DP fround it and we have it every weekend now. It's basically nicked from a Thomasina Miers's recipe. You can make it more or less bootcampy by leaving out or substituting the onion/tomatoes (though it may be slightly less scrummy). It's a great option of a breakfast with a kick as you can obviously up the chilli if you like it hot. If you have family who are not low carbing, serve it with warmed/toasted flour tortillas.

Mexican Eggs (Huevos a la Mexicana). Serves 4
(We halve the mixture & there's no problems)
2-3 tblsp olive oil or lard
1 white onion, chopped
1 fresh red chilli, chopped
2 cloves garlic, crushed/chopped
3 plum tomatoes, deseeded and chopped
10 eggs
1 tablespoon milk (we omit this)
salt & pepper
handful of chopped fresh coriander

Heat oil, add onion and chilli. Cook for about 5 mins so the onion softens. Add the garlic & continue to cook on a low heat. Add the chopped, deseeded tomatoes.

Whisk the eggs (with milk if you are using it), season with salt and pepper, then pour into the onion mixture, stirring and gently heating through until they begin to scramble.
Cook to your taste - as runny or set as you like, and serve with a handful of corainder over the top. And as much chilli sauce as you can handle.

DP stirs in a good couple of spoonfuls of chipotle sauce during cooking, which gives it a really lovely smokey taste.
In another one of her recipes, Thomasina also adds chorizo, which also sounds good.
The prep time can be greatly reduced if you have bags of frozen chopped onions, garlic and chilli in the freezer and can just grab out what you need. The only prep then is chopping tomato and whisking the eggs. It is YUMMY, and I am normally no fan of scrambled eggs.

BIWI Sun 02-Jun-13 16:56:12

Buda - it means that you are fat-burning rather than carb-burning.

I would guess that anyone who has been low-carbing seriously for over a month is likely to be ketogenically-adapted. Not sure how you know though!

BIWI Sun 02-Jun-13 16:57:56
BlackAffronted Sun 02-Jun-13 17:13:27

Oh my word, I was link on Marks Daily Apple! Scroll down to the aubergene melt link, thats me grin www.marksdailyapple.com/weekend-link-love-245/#axzz2V4lz7jj1 wonder how that happened? <chuffed>

BIWI Sun 02-Jun-13 17:16:18


BIWI Sun 02-Jun-13 17:18:45

Psst - Black - there seems to be something wrong on your blog. On your low carb recipes there are loads which are obviously not!

CrabbyBigBottom Sun 02-Jun-13 17:30:36

Yay Black! Except that now you have brought down the wrath of BIWI with your non-low-carb recipes... grin

CrabbyBigBottom Sun 02-Jun-13 17:35:30

I need a thrashing with your big stick BIWI - I'm finding it really hard to stay on the wagon at the mo. Drank too much white wine and red last night and have been craving craving craving carbs all day. I had a tiny taste of chocolate earlier, which only made things worse. blush I feel like I'm eating too much meat, dairy and fatty food.

B - smoked salmon with creme fraiche
L - asparagus fried in butter with leftover hollandaise sauce
S - gouda cheese with little tomatoes
D - will be calves liver with bacon, celeriac and veg.

Ruprekt Sun 02-Jun-13 17:51:13


L...fab salad of lettuce, cucumber, buffalo mozz, pulled pork, chicken and ff mayo

S...natural yog with creme fraiche and dbl cream with blueberries

Off to a cheese/wine thing tonight....cheese and no wine for me!!

BIWI Sun 02-Jun-13 17:51:45

Crabby - you aren't eating much are you? Why do you feel you're eating too much?!

Go back to Bootcamp. Print out the rules. And follow them to the letter. That way you won't be hungry and you are much less likely to start craving carbs.


The only thing that you may have a problem with is the amount of dairy - this is something that can cause people to stall, but there is no problem with eating meat or fatty food - this is what we are aiming for on a low carb diet.

captainmummy Sun 02-Jun-13 18:30:45

Went to a street party BBQ today - brilliant for LC!
Breakfast - 2 eggs,scrambled
Lunch - bbq chicken, sausage, salad, (wine) chili, no beans,

Dinner - not hungry, had some Lidl yog.

CrabbyBigBottom Sun 02-Jun-13 19:06:39

BIWI the problem is that I'm quite finicky about my food and if I don't fancy something, then I just can't stomach it. So the problem is that I'll go to the fridge and there's nothing I fancy that doesn't have a carb component (ie to eat boiled/scrambled eggs I want toast with it, things like bolognese I want pasta with it etc), so I end up just snacking on cheese and tomatoes or something. So I'm hungry but have no appetite for what I'm allowed, if that makes sense. confused And I love fat (cream, butter, oil, not fatty meat though), but lately I've been finding myself gagging slightly when eating fatty meals.

crabby I get like that for a few days once I've had alcohol or carbs, you have to be super strict and drink loads of water and then in about 4 days I am all fine again. It just shows how addictive carbs are to some of us I think.

prettybird Sun 02-Jun-13 19:21:51

If you fancy bolognaise (or meatballs) and pasta, then I've found (after seeing it suggested here) that courgette cut into thin ribbons and fried in butter works well.

BlackAffronted Sun 02-Jun-13 19:24:35

I bought a julienne peeler from Amazon for a couple of quid, and it makes perfect spaghetti shaped courgette strips.

CrabbyBigBottom Sun 02-Jun-13 19:25:23

MrsH I know it's the white wine that sets off the cravings again. It's always been my downfall. sad

Thanks pretty I will try that.

prettybird Sun 02-Jun-13 19:36:52

I use a cheese slice or a potato peeler to make the thin ribbons. It also helps if you scoop out some of the seedy bits as they can make it a bit watery.

HeirToTheIronThrone Sun 02-Jun-13 20:47:36

Just had a big plate of avocado, mozzarella and tomato with olive oil drizzled over for supper. Went super off piste this afternoon though as we took my friend and her DH (who is from South America and had never been to the coast in the UK) over to Swanage and so had fish (but no chips!) and an ice cream. But we had such a beautiful day, walked for miles and was glorious weather. I think the difference is that I very consciously chose to eat those things, enjoyed them in the sun with good company, and now straight back on it with no regrets. This is a bit of a revelation for me as I'd normally use it as an excuse to go well off the wagon, but has been easy to sit and have my gorgeous salad even though DP got KFC on the way home from dropping our guests at the station! So I might not lose tomorrow but still feel I have learned something good (please don't get the stick out BIWI!)

couch25cakes Sun 02-Jun-13 21:10:12

I had today
B- scrambled eggs
L- avocado, cheese and vinaigrette
D- BBQ-pork steaks, grilled halloumi in oil, lime and caper dressing, salad

I'm feeling ok following yesterday's booze, and have no reason to fall off the wagon this week, fingers crossed!

HeirToTheIronThrone Sun 02-Jun-13 21:32:55

Oh and thanks for the bicarbonate in water tip (though it tastes FOUL) - am trying to just flush it out without going to the docs... And whoever mentioned Coral Reef - I love that place, grew up nearby. I once won a year's membership in a competition when I was little and it was basically my proudest achievement ever grin

rubybricks Sun 02-Jun-13 22:28:12

crabby i am having exactly the same problem - and for the same reasons! (wine last night) and tonight i'd had enough of not eating with the family so i just tucked in and shared the giant mushroom pizza that DH had brought home to save me from having to cook...

i am very sad that i don't seem to be able to stick at this any more. i'm not a cook, and i haven't a clue about what's in the food i eat (ie whether it's carb-heavy etc) - i also have a problem eating fatty meat/butter (though have come to love eggs in the past month!) i bought the total yoghurt but it was far too rich (to the point of making me gag), i find the lidl one much more acceptable. i also find i am looking longingly at the freshly squeezed orange juice in the fridge - and at the fruit in the fruit bowl...

will weigh in tomorrow but am not expecting any movement unless it's upward (also my TOTM). i'm sorry this isn't helpful just moaning but i will take on board what you say MrsHP (i realise that it's no good being half-hearted about this WOE and then expecting to be able to drink alcohol) - it just undoes anything good i've achieved during the day and makes me crave carbs the next day.

hope everyone else has had a more successful weekend...

BIWI Sun 02-Jun-13 22:32:08

ruby - have you done any reading about low carbing? I can seriously recommend that you do, so that you can fix in your mind the health advantages of this way of eating - i.e. that it's not just about weight loss. That might help keep you focussed.

MaryBeardfanclub Sun 02-Jun-13 22:35:52

ooo we live not too far from Coral Reef, is it suitable for a nearly 2 yo and a nearly 5 yo?

welcome newbies

hope all had sun today, it was glorious here. Saw my old NCT group this avo, sat in the garden, the children played, fab. DS was the only boy out of 8 girls so he trailed about after the girlies who spent the whole afternoon dressing up - he and ds 2 ended up climbing into the dog kennel (new one, for cute puppy), very cute, peeping out

not been very strict this week, feeling like I am expanding rather than shrinking.

B: 2 eggs fried in coconut oil & butter, half avocado with olive oil
L: roast chicken, cheesy leeks, broccoli
S: lots of berries and cheese
D: cauli pizza, salad, 85% chunk of choc

maidofmuss Sun 02-Jun-13 22:53:45

Mostly low carbing today
B mushrooms in butter, 2 scrambled eggs
L cream cheese and cucumber
D roast chicken (thigh/leg), creamy cauli, green beans/broccoli drizzled with butter
S 5 almonds, last sq dark chocolate (!) 1.5 glasses white wine

ToomuchIsBackOnBootcamp Sun 02-Jun-13 23:43:32

Evening all, welcome all newbies and any other lurkers out there, don't be shy, come on in!

B 2 eggs scrambled with butter, double cream and a little grated cheese
L cold roast chicken thigh, big salad with feta and oil
D was caught out and had to work later than I expected so just grabbed a pack of cooked chicken fillets (Tesco brand) part of my emergency stash in the fridge at work
S when I got back from work I was starving so I had what was left of DHs lamb curry, (just the curry bit no rice or anything) pretty low carb as I know what goes into it.

Again, not enough veg today but I did drink loads of water. Even up here in the NE it was a pretty warm day and inside my work was very warm so it was easy today!

Good luck for weigh ins tomorrow everyone (am off to cut toenails, remove all body hair, pluck eyebrows, it all helps wink)

TreeLuLa Mon 03-Jun-13 06:29:51

Hi all,

Fell face first into my Birthday celebrations this week, but I wasn't too bad - as others have said, white wine is a killer as I then crave carbs.

Have put on 2lbs, which I deserved. Back on the wagon now (and back off the booze - I feel, look and eat better when I don't drink much)

BIWI Mon 03-Jun-13 07:52:55

Will go over to week 6 thread in a minute but want to do my confessing here! Massively fell off the wagon last night. Red wine. Lots. Chocolate. And not the dark good stuff. Cream crackers. Dinner was a bit of a disappointment so I drank rather than eat and then was starving later.

And forgot to weight this morning. Probably just as well!

CrabbyBigBottom Mon 03-Jun-13 09:40:17

Good move confessing here Cider! grin New week, new thread, new start. wink

Exactly Crabby! And maybe BIWI won't see it!

ToomuchIsBackOnBootcamp Mon 03-Jun-13 10:57:48

biwi sees EVERYTHING <doomed>

BIWI Mon 03-Jun-13 11:31:22

Oh Buda. You have let Bootcamp down. You have let Mumsnet down. But most of all, you have let yourself down ...


Get yourself back on the wagon and over to the week 6/new leaf thread!

Oh BIWI I know! So annoyed at myself.

ToomuchIsBackOnBootcamp Mon 03-Jun-13 13:01:29

Told ya grin

BIWI Mon 03-Jun-13 18:37:37


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