The new Paleo/Primal thread - please reintroduce yourself, newcomers welcome!

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misscph1973 Mon 24-Jun-13 13:53:00

Wow, we got to 1000 messages!

Welcome back from the previous thread and welcome to all new!

I have been Paleo since September last year, I started as an ex-vegetarian/vegan, I wanted to give up gluten and I had been doing 5:2/IF, which lead me to Paleo/primal. I am 40, I have 2 kids age 8 and 6. I have no major health issues, but I would like it to stay that way. I have bad skin, which has improved since starting Paleo and my dandruff has disappeared. I have gained some weight since starting Paleo, but I was not overweight before, although I would like to get back on my pre Paleo weight - I just love Paleo mayonnaise too much ;) I still practice IF and I lift weights 2-3 times per week. My family is also Paleo.

I have just come back from a camping weekend where I was not strict Paleo as I was camping with other families and I just didn't want to spend my entire weekend telling my kids "no, you cant have it". I do think that Paleo camping is entirely possible, think tinned fish, nuts, sausages, eggs etc.

GiraffesEatPineapples Thu 27-Jun-13 22:25:47

misscph that was a good summary thank you! I had a slight coffee relapse today unfortunately but it was delicious smile

Fav that pizza looks amazing - I can't believe its not cheese shock

raw good idea about veg, I have made nuggets most to her taste by putting slow cooked chicken and egg in the blender then rolling the sludgey mix in balls and coating in almond and arrowroot. I am thinking courgette might blend in without adding too much colour. Will start with a little and increase veg ratio!

Hi 78bunion

FavadiCacao Fri 28-Jun-13 10:20:24

Ds started eating veg when he started to grow his own. Salad and spinach grow fast, they are a eat and re-seed crop and can be grown on a windowsill. Ds used to love decorating his pots and have them admired. smile Borage is another easy crop: it tastes like a mild cucumber and the flowers are edible too; the older leaves are a bit prickly raw but not cooked.

Now, I can't stop ds (12) eating veg!and as vegetables don't grow fast enough in my garden, I have been known to collect even the outer leaves of cauliflowers! smile

Also, a little bit of foraging might encourage to be a little more adventurous. Some country parks/forest schools do mini courses in foraging. Here is a list of edible flowers.

Karbea Fri 28-Jun-13 10:28:45

Hello,

I'd like to join, I did really well earlier in the year, but ever since have failed pretty badly. I'm going to ease myself back in, using up food in the house for the next month or so, but by August I'm going to be back on it 100%.

Karbea Fri 28-Jun-13 12:25:17

Ok for lunch I'm having a jacket potato, beans and cheese, all of which are no, no's but once they're gone they're gone ;)

RabbitFromAHat Fri 28-Jun-13 15:00:54

I'm kind of doing the same Karbea - easing myself in while finishing the cupboard contents! So yesterday I had a tuna and mixed bean salad for lunch, today I had a berry and protein powder smoothie for breakfast and crayfish salad with rice for lunch: not 'proper' but that can all start tomorrow.

It's payday and I now have a loooooooong shopping list - I'm looking forward to getting started!

Had a very interesting dinner experience - was brought out for dinner (Mexican) by a friend and decided to at least notionally eat Paleo. So instead of automatically going for the usual corn- or rice-based option, I had scallops with vegetables, and a pork belly dish with a kind of Mexican slaw. Delicious, and although they were small portions, I am certain I felt fuller than I would have on equivalent grain-based dishes. To keep with the theme, I had agave cocktails. Nifty. grin

Can I ask, when in a pub and not drinking alcohol, what you chaps do? I would usually go for a blackcurrent cordial or something, but all that sugar doesn't seem appropriate for now. Just water seems a bit dull.

Karbea Fri 28-Jun-13 15:31:34

When I did it earlier in the year, my dr friend who advised me to do, said a vodka or gin and tonic was probably the best option, but only when I had to.
Apart from that it's water :/ everything else has way too much sugar in it.

snoworneahva Fri 28-Jun-13 15:32:25

It's not often I find myself in a pub not drinking alcohol! But - in the event that I do then I always have a sparkling water.

GiraffesEatPineapples Fri 28-Jun-13 16:01:07

3 is my lot meant to say before I loved your post, well done on your weight loss! I feel a lot more in control of my eating too - to the point where its kinda weird!

I get to weigh myself soon, about a week and a half left of whole 30. Been a couple of tiny slips but nothing too major. Nearly did a sneaky weigh in with clothes on and keys in my pocket (obv that wouldn't count ;) ) but restrained myself.

I would def find it hard to be in the pub (unless with dp) and not have a drink, esp if in a big group - I would feel like I need to explain myself or make up an illness otherwise people would suspect I was pg!

RabbitFromAHat Fri 28-Jun-13 17:03:51

www.runnersworld.co.uk/nutrition/have-carbs-had-their-chips/9822.html

This makes really interesting reading for anyone like myself, who was brought up on the strict orthodoxy that runners can't function without seriously supermassive carb intakes.

FavadiCacao Fri 28-Jun-13 18:00:14

Some pubs might do non-alcoholic mojito (spelling?), soda water and lemon/lime, tomato juice (V8).

RabbitFromAHat Sat 29-Jun-13 12:23:33

Good ideas, thanks a lot Favadi!

RawCoconutMacaroon Sat 29-Jun-13 21:09:55

Alcohol- I stick to potato vodka, or 100% agave Tequila... No grains, no additives so no headache (unless I over do it!).

FavadiCacao Sun 30-Jun-13 08:39:37

Second batch of bacon is drying in the oven and my tummy is churning because the smell is incredible: I'm really looking forward to lunch. smile

snoworneahva Sun 30-Jun-13 15:33:20

I must make some more fava.

Dh took the dcs out yesterday and they were allowed to buy their Saturday treat - ds chose gobstoppers and dd chose jelly beans. When they got home I read out the ingredients on the packet of gobstoppers - they didn't contain one ingredient from a normal kitchen cupboard - everything about them was chemical - interestingly instead of ds trying to negotiate to keep a few, he said he didn't want them....and asked if he could buy a better treat with his own money...dd wasn't keen on the ingredients in her jelly beans either. So both of them decided on a tube of fruit pastiles because a few ingredients were normal and they liked them. Normally I wouldn't be that keen on fruit pastiles but in comparison to the crap in the gobstoppers they were almost Paleo. wink I hope this experience has taught them a little bit about the rubbish factories put in their treats and to have a think about whether they want to put factory produced chemicals in their bodies rather than food.

Steak for dinner today, cooked on the fire pit, with onions, mushrooms and swede chips - dcs will have potato chips, followed by homemade cherry and dark choc chip ice cream.

marzipananimal Sun 30-Jun-13 17:10:59

That sounds really yummy snow. Yesterday we had homemade pork and apple burgers with caremelised onions, sweet potato wedges and curly kale. Was delicious. First time I've ever made burgers!

FavadiCacao Sun 30-Jun-13 21:28:40

Yes!!!! You should make some more snow! It's just amazingly good.
Three other people thank you as I passed the recipe to them and my neighbour and family fell in love with today's batch. flowers

I've altered the recipe slightly: rub salt and pepper in every tiny fold then rub the herbs having converted tsp to tbsp and then some (I'm using fresh). I had noticed in the previous batch that the herbs changed and looked dry in colour but yet saturated; it made no difference in taste but I guess they and the fridge are keeping the bad guys abated grin. I didn't bother to drain any liquid this time and grease proof paper worked better than kitchen paper. Again there will be none to freeze...working on the principle that novelty would wear out! yeah, yeah! me think need bigger fridge!

Love the plan about the sweets! grin

Marzipan, that is the problem with homemade everything: it tastes so darn good! grin Fancy sharing the recipe?!

GiraffesEatPineapples Mon 01-Jul-13 18:36:29

marzipan your meal sounds delicious.

Fav I haven't found the link to the bacon, what kind of cut do you use? Could i start off with a small shoulder?

snow what is a fire pit! Would you reccomend your ice cream maker - what are the useful functions to look for? I am hankering after one now smile

snoworneahva Mon 01-Jul-13 19:48:23

giraffe it's also known as a fire bowl - just like a bowl you light a fire in. On the ice cream maker I have a Phillips delize I think. It's a bowl in the freezer, I think they do disks now which is better if you are tight on freezer space.
But the ice cream I'm making at the moment is very lazy and doesn't require a machine due to the high fat content. It's not paleo but it's a good deal better than the store bought alternative and it's very easy - 500ml double cream, 100g condensed milk, a bit of vanilla....whisk till stiffish, add whatever flavouring you like and spoon into a loaf tin lined with parchment, freeze for 4 hours and then turn it out and cut into slices. I serve it with thin almond crackers.

FavadiCacao Mon 01-Jul-13 21:32:17

Giraffes the bacon link was snow's link and it's only fair that snow should get to post it on this thread first.

My mum has one of those fancy, supa duper, ice-cream machines (the kind that eat your bench space)...Not worth the price tag...Churning is no other than taking the 'ice-cream to be' out of the freezer and beat it now and again. Unless one injects the rubbish the manufacturers do, the ice-cream would go solid. The only alternative to soft scoop, is to pump sugar into the mix- unless you prepare it to eat 'on' the day 'for' the day.

I have some cherries...bought some mascarpone, yoghurt and cream...Whilst debating as to the paleo suitability of any of the ingredients...Brain/Gut will eventually make a choice as to type of ice-cream (ug!!), attempt a recipe (ug! ug!!!!) and will report back in the hope of a grin and not a sad experience. smile One still has to hmm it all!!

GiraffesEatPineapples Tue 02-Jul-13 01:01:35

Sorry that's true Fava I should have put snow's name too as it was her inspiration, just got caught up in your bacon enthusiasim grin I did look for it in the old thread before, but missed wherever the bacon started. Hope lots of grin for your ice cream, sounds delicious flavours.

Ok thanks both for ice cream info, so I probably don't need another appliance on the worktop anyway (slow cooker, bread machine and blender getting lots of use recently!) wink perhaps i will keep an eye out for one on a really good offer - my freezer is pretty small (mainly because it needs defrosting tennis ) so good to know that model could work for space. Actually I recently made the strawberry and coconut cream mix someone suggested - I loved it but the rest of the family more up for something fluffy. At the moment I am buying organic ice cream for them but even that has lots of ingredients so your option sounds good snow

Not paleo but on the subject of appliances I also dusted off a popcorn maker gift we have never used and made popcorn for the children, again not paleo but it was fun watching it shoot out of the funnel and cheaper than buying the packaged butterkist plus we didn't add sugar or salt. I am wondering if i could put quinoa in it and make a puffed cereal . Could be asking for trouble hmm

snoworneahva Tue 02-Jul-13 07:33:44

I haven't got my original link to the bacon handy, so if fava has it and can post it again that would be great.

I do feel slightly bad at times giving the dcs sugary ice cream and other treats but all I have to do is think of the ingredient in those bloody gobstoppers.....I learnt the hard way that to convince people around to your way of thinking you got to move closer to where they are. Dd is not keen on my ice cream, it's too creamy - she's a dedicated skimmed milk girl....so I'll educate those tastebuds by making a cookie dough ice cream this weekend - this is a Paleo version. She normally has Ben&Jerrys cookie dough, so to get her seal of approval is pretty impressive, you could make the coconut milk version of the basic ice cream but I find coconut milk ice cream tastes a bit weird and I normally like coconut.
Passion fruit makes a great ice cream and would potentially cover the weird coconut thing. And I had an amazing honey and nutmeg ice cream a few weeks back....I'm sure that would be a great flavour to Paleofy.

Pufflemum Tue 02-Jul-13 07:46:36

Hi everyone, I'm in, I was on the last thread but got lost somewhere. I have been eating mainly paleo for a few months now, I have lost 6 lbs and even better, 6% body fat. I am really pleased with this as I am not overweight but have been trying to seriously tone up and lose the layer of fat that covers my new muscles! I do seem to of plateaued now though.

Can anyone recommend any great cookbooks? I have The Paleo Diet but it's not very inspiring. I generally try and adapt recipes from ordinary books, but would like something to focus on for the last few weeks before my holiday. Thanks.

RawCoconutMacaroon Tue 02-Jul-13 08:36:14

Giraffes, we have a popcorn maker too, The kids love it as an occasional film night treat. No, not paleo/primal but you know exactly what's in it (corn and kerrygold butter in our case), so it's a better choice, if not "perfect".

As Mark "daily apple" Sissons says, don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good!

When I get my Excalibur dehydrator (soon I hope!) <wistful>, I look forward to making "perfect" veg crisps and meat jerkies ( I'm appalled at the ingredients lists on every jerky I have seen in the shops. The gluten, the MSG! Some are 30% carb!!! Online grassfed, gluten free jerkies are very expensive...

RawCoconutMacaroon Tue 02-Jul-13 08:47:31

Snow, DON'T FEEL GUILTY! Honestly, a really good ice cream (short ingredient list, real ingredients), is hardly the worst thing you can feed your child smile.

Actually, in this house, it tends to be chocolate, not ice cream, but same idea, we go for dark, good quality. Although obviously watch the amounts, IMO a small bar of good chocolate is very much better than a (grain based) cookie or cake.

The kids (and us parents), are surrounded by SAD crap food, and I think learning to make the wiser, better choice is something they need to do, a positive choice so there is no feeling of being "deprived".

A row of good chocolate squares, or a kitkat? I know which I'd go for!

snoworneahva Tue 02-Jul-13 09:31:21

I am so jealous raw I want a dehydrator! But I have bought too many gadgets this year already. Looking forward to you reporting back on your culinary adventures. We're big dark chocolate fans here too - well everyone apart from dd, who struggles more with big flavours - but she's getting there, we shift very gradually. Must do popcorn for them again. They like it sweet, so I melt butter and add in maple syrup for a toffee like flavour - haven't done that in so long, good birthday party treat.

giraffe is it your dh who is on AIP - how's he finding it? I'm considering it, as my mouth sores are not improving....doctor has no idea what it is, he's sending me to an ENT consultant, then Dermotology and Allergy testing. I'm struggling with the no alcohol rule - actually all the rules are tricky when socialising or eating out. I'm not sure I want to give up alcohol and eating out for 6 months in the hope something improves...but if my mouth gets much worse I may not have a choice.

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