Week 9 - Summer Low Carb Bootcamp - Wimbledon Fortnight!

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BIWI Mon 24-Jun-13 08:46:50

Morning all.

Come and fill in the spreadsheet

Only two weeks to go before we finish this challenge. Time to drop a few more pounds!

But go easy with those strawberries ...

The difference is chipping that you didn't given in to that binge feeling, so it has changed, and I honestly believe the feeling is because you can't not because you actually want it as you say. In the long run, once you feel you are under control a blow out here and there will be fine. Obvs not to the extent that your blood sugars shoot up and down regularly and not in the 6 weeks before you are due a Hba1c obvs, I have had at times awful things to eat in an uncontrolled fashion, but still over time my blood results have all improved as luckily I have managed not to do it very often. What I am trying to say is that you might not need to be quite so restrictive in the very long run, if that helps thinking about it at all. Sorry I got confused about the tofu/quorn issue - does peanut butter (other nut butters) help with protein at all, without too many carbs? You could buy one of those machines and make your own nut butters, my brother had one and it was great!!!

ps I meant buy something that basically fits, but is on the tighter side of comfortable - not something that doesn't fit yet if that makes sense!

kotinka Sun 30-Jun-13 20:16:59

Ello all, just catching up

kotinka Sun 30-Jun-13 20:28:03

Chipping I think mrs hp's right, you found a way to beat the craving, that means you're changing your attitude.

I know what you mean about the lack of freedom, it kind of sucks the joy out of things. Is your diabetes very severe? Would there be bad consequences if you ate something sugary occasionally? My dad has it and just will not take it seriously, keeps eating chippy junk.

StuntNun Sun 30-Jun-13 20:39:56

Thanks for the McDs tip TooMuch, I'm taking the boys tomorrow so I'll be sure to order the right salad and take my own dressing --I bought a bottle specially to carry my own salad dressing with me!--blush I was in Burger King today for DS2's party and they didn't even have salads. I looked at the menu and the only low carb options were water or coffee! shock

Afaik Quorn and tofu aren't allowed purely because they're processed. If you're happy to eat them then they would seem to be an excellent form of protein for non-egg eating vegetarians.

Strange day today:
B: strawberries and Greek yoghurt plus one piece of bacon
L: salmon baked in butter and crinkle cut courgettes fried in butter (they were lovely - they browned along the ridges of the crinkles)
D: white coffee in Burger King
It's amazing, no popcorn or sweets at the cinema and I was surrounded by junk food in BK and not even tempted to eat a fry. I'm eating so much more healthily now. Before this woe I would have been chewing off my arm at the party if I didn't get anything to eat. DH and I are going to have a takeaway later, I'm thinking lamb tikka and mushroom bhaji.

That sounds lovely StuntNun - well done on the resisting.

B - bacon, mushroom, pepper and cheese omlette
L - picnic (peppers, cucumber, celery dipped in home made garlic and chive dip and guacamole - can highly recommend these, sausages and chicken cooked by DH on the BBQ the night before and a glass of bubbly followed by two litres of water and a coffee when everyone else had icecreams!)
D - BBQ'd lamb, courgettes and asparagus.

Is there anything that doesn't taste good when bbq'd?

loopyloou Sun 30-Jun-13 20:56:51

chipping you're doing really well. I feel the same when out. Everything reasonably priced is with bread!! I hate the fact I can never again have whatever I fancy - anything with wheat sets off my IBS it seems.

I'm truly p'ed off tonight. Been out with friends to see the new Despicable Me movie then went to F&Bs for food. I decided to have from the special menu and chose BBQ chicken wings (which were ridiculously sweet) and chicken and bacon salad but instead they brought a chicken wrap. When I commented I'd ordered salad he took it away and brought it back with a bit of salad next to the wrap! We were with friends so I didn't want to kick up a fuss so thought I'd eat the chicken out of the wrap but turned out it was in breadcrumbs! Dead loss! So all I had was done lettuce. Wish I'd gone for steak instead but was trying to keep cost down as we had a £20 voucher and wanted to spend not much more than that. Ah well ...

BerylStreep Sun 30-Jun-13 20:58:53

My cafe treat is having a latte or coffee with cream.

Chipping I know what you mean though about it being nice to just be able to eat whatever you want, but eating whatever I wanted is why I am back on Bootcamp again. Would you ever consider introducing some responsibly caught fish into your diet?

We are visiting friends this weekend for an overnight stay, and I am dreading having to worry about food choices. Our host has asked if we want to stay in and get a takeaway, or go out to a restaurant. I might feign a wheat intolerance (not much feigning to do, I am absolutely convinced I am intolerant) and if we stay in for a takeaway, am considering bringing a packet of shiritake noodles with me. The only thing is that I hate drawing attention to WOE / health issues as our host is a nurse and it would result in an intrusive Q&A session and a fair amount of judging, if not overtly, then once we have gone.

I am determined that this week I am not going to have any wine at all (well until Saturday when we stay with said friends). I have been trying to up my water intake, and have been having fat flush water. It tastes quite nice, like Pimms without the Pimms and lemonade! I have made a massive jug, and just keep topping it up with fizzy water.

Low carb creamy dip:

50g yoghurt
100g cream cheese
squirt of lemon juice
crushed garlic (or that lazy garlic, about a 1-2 tsp)
Chives chopped up (fresh is best and lots of them!)

(with this one you can use the yoghurt and cream cheese base for all sorts of flavours eg add mint and cucumber for a greek style, salmon and dill for a fishy one)

Gucamole:
2 avocados
medium tomato cut up small so all squishy
couple of shallots finely chopped
half red chilli deseeded and finely chopped
lime juice

cut up tomato (so all squishy really), add avocados and mash up a bit. Add all other ingredients and keep mashing up until the consistently you like (I use a whisk to mash it about!)

Obvs serve with celery and cucumber - but they are lovely I think!

Beryl I'd go for restaurant option I reckon in that situation as usually easier to order low carb I think without quite so many discussions...

kotinka Sun 30-Jun-13 21:10:21

Beryl, in your shoes I'd probably have a night off the diet to avoid the Spanish Inquisition grin

My dad started having a go at me this weekend about the diet, I suspect it's because it makes him feel guilty. Anyway according to him, I can't possibly lose weight if I eat cheese and butter. Spent the weekend biting my tongue sad

kotinka Sun 30-Jun-13 21:11:31

Lovely recipes mrs Hp!

Honestly, they have saved me recently, we've had lots of guests and going out and if I make these and serve them with raw veg, plus crisps for guests that want it seems to keep me on the straight and narrow! Otherwise see a pot of humous and I'd be in there when I really shouldn't!

BerylStreep Sun 30-Jun-13 21:21:19

I know, the restaurant option would seem to be better, but there is always a drama about restaurants when we stay with these friends. Usually ends up being at least £100 a head for fairly ordinary food. Last time a waiter spilt a G&T all down my back. The time before, we tried a new restaurant and the bill for 4 came close to £500, because our friends were choosing £50 bottles of wine. Then they said the next day that they would go to the restaurant again, but not with us as we had made it too expensive hmm. And there are always babysitter issues - do you pay half if your kids are there too?

The thing is, if I am going to spend that sort of money, I would prefer to spend it on nice clothes that will last, not on some overpriced meal with sub-standard service.

That sounds like a nightmare - take away then?!?!

MustTidyUpMustTidyUp Sun 30-Jun-13 22:12:25

Hi all I know you've been at this for weeks but can I jump in? I've started boot camp today and want to lose half a stone for my hol in 4 weeks. What kind of loss can I expect?

ChippingInWiredOnCoffee Sun 30-Jun-13 22:15:12

Black my fat is from butter, olive oil & avocados/cheese/other dairy. I'm glad you had a great day smile

MrsHP - maybe, in the very long run, I will be able to have the odd 'blow out' - but <whines> I just want to be 'normal' again and not have diabetes, I Don't Want It sad <stomps feet> <sulks> I have been eating peanut butter on celery which helps with the protein a bit, but not huge amounts as otherwise the carbs go up and given pretty much everything that passes my lips has carbs I have to be that little bit more careful.

kotinka - I appreciate what you are saying, but I haven't changed. I could choose to eat a packet of biscuits or not before (I was never unable to control it, just not willing. Especially after my Dad died I just allowed myself to have what I wanted) and I can still choose now... it's not that I am any different, it's just that now I have to avoid it because of the diabetes. No, my diabetes is not severe (for which I am very grateful) my first HbA1c was 9.3 and my second one (after low carbing and no medication) was 5.8 (which is within 'normal') but I want to keep it controlled by diet not by medication for as long as I possibly can. So no, I don't suppose the odd treat/off piste would be the end of the world - but that's it really, it's the planning/thinking/caring - I want to be able to go back to not knowing/not worrying - and of course I can't. It does make taking metformin seem tempting at times. I don't mean to be harsh, but the next time your Dad goes on about your diet, why not ask him which of you has diabetes hmm

stuntnun - there's a bit more too it than just because it's processed - it's what it is made of and how it is processed. I'm sure anyone reading Briffa would agree he's correct - it's just a problem to know what else to eat for protein?!

loopy - sorrry about the wheat/IBS sad I've never liked F&B's and I'm not at all surprised to hear you had a crap time of it there... how was the film?

beryl - no, I wouldn't eat fish, not even responsibly caught fish. It's still a life I wont take. I've just read your last post re going out for dinner... in that case I'd opt for takeaway, choose whatever you think is going to be a balanced combination of low-carb/unlikely to cause unwanted attention and try not to eat too much. Are you sure you actually want to go - they sound a bit of a nightmare!!

prettybird Sun 30-Jun-13 22:16:11

When it's hot or not very often here hmm I've adapted a non-alcoholic drink my mum used to make, called a rock shandy:

A good slug of angasturas bitters topped up with tonic water and served with ice and a slice of lemon/lime. On this WoE, I swapped the tonic water with sparkling water and it was still a lovely refreshing drink. smile

ChippingInWiredOnCoffee Sun 30-Jun-13 22:20:22

I've just tried tea with coconut oil - BLEURGH. It tastes/feels like I've dropped a pot of lipgloss in there... not an experience to be repeated!! The only good thing is that it didn't stain the cup as it normally does!! (black tea)

MrsTidy of course you can!! There will be a chat thread after Bootcamp and many of us just continue as normal smile The only things that change are that BIWI feels less compelled to post (though she seems to post just as much grin) and Willie doesn't do the Biggest Loser things she does with the spreadsheet and perhaphs a few less people do it - but most of us are here anyway. Have you read the 'rules' on the spreadsheet? If you stick to all of the rules you should happily hit your half stone for your holiday smile

loopyloou Sun 30-Jun-13 22:35:26

Chipping the film was very funny grin

Having a severe wobble here. I think it's because the scales haven't shown much loss over the week which I'm attributing to eating cheese and yoghurt every day and then it's totm in a week so hormones are making me a little grumpy and then the whole stressful situation re dh's unemployment (had the first panic attack today in ages and it was really scary, thought I was having a heart attack), I'm really struggling. If there was chocolate in the house I would eat it hmm. Instead I'm having the tiniest shot of Southern Comfort, just a tiny drop. I know it's not good but I haven't had a drink today, just Decaff coffee and water.

BerylStreep Sun 30-Jun-13 22:38:48

Well I made some chocolate pots today, for a bit of a controlled cheat.

1 bar of 90% cocoa Lindt
125ml of double cream
2 tsp crunchy peanut butter
2 tsp rum
1/2 tsp vanilla essence.

Heated the cream, melted the chic into it and added everything else. Poured into ramekins and popped into the fridge. Made 6 extremely dense treats.

ChippingInWiredOnCoffee Sun 30-Jun-13 22:59:24

loopy - I'm glad you enjoyed the film! Having an unsatisfactory dinner wont have helped with feeling like you want chocolate tonight. Panic attacks are nasty buggers - can you talk yourself down from them or do you have another coping technique? <<other than chocolate/southern comfort? (Out of the two I guess SC is less de-railing).

Beryl those sound like the BIZZZ - yum!

loopyloou Sun 30-Jun-13 23:04:46

I just breathe my way through them, trying to concentrate on my breathing. It just took a long time to go today and I was really frightened. I'm not sleeping well because in my mind I'm doing sums all the time, wondering how long our money will pay the bills for (not long!) which isn't helping.

Thankfully there is no chocolate in the house wink

kotinka Sun 30-Jun-13 23:06:32

yum beryl!

btw your friends sound a PITA sad

chipping grin I did point that out, but couldn't be too smug, there's plenty of time for me to end up with it too.

night all, absolutely shagged.

ChippingInWiredOnCoffee Sun 30-Jun-13 23:40:51

loopy - it's worrying isn't it sad Could you write it all down, I sometimes find that helps. If it's committed to paper I don't need to keep thinking about it. Does DH have any jobs on the horizon?

Kotinka - for now you can be as smug as you like if it a) shuts him up about what you eat and b) makes him think about what he's eating!! (and if you keep low carbing you are highly unlikely to end up with it!!).

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