Bootcamp - the questions thread

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BIWI Mon 13-Jan-14 07:24:17

From experience of past Bootcamps, in the first few weeks the chat threads move really, really quickly and it's difficult sometimes to see/answer everything.

So this is a place to post any questions that you might have. Those of us who are old hands at low carbing will check this thread regularly and make sure that we answer you as soon as we can.

NoMoreCarbs Fri 15-Aug-14 08:29:18

Thanks miffy that's really helpful, I will not rely on MFP as much and will go over the rules on the Bootcamp lists. Hopefully the acrid taste in my mouth will lift soon!! Thanks again

miffy49 Thu 14-Aug-14 13:13:25

The food diary sites are notoriously unreliable as they rely on members to add the food info off packets etc. Given that some members are not the brightest candles on the tree and that food labelling laws vary a lot around the world its not ideal!

Don't panic about too few carbs. Carbs are the only one of the three food groups that you don't need. You need protein for amino acids, you need fat for fat soluble vitamins but carbs have nothing essential. Your body can get the energy it needs from fat and the tiny bit of glucose it needs can be made from protein. Just follow the Boot Camp lists and you will get everything you need to stay healthy without needing to count anything.

The nasty taste is a good sign! Its usually the sign that you are in ketosis and burning fat. Keep up your fluids and it will fade out in a few days as your body gets into the swing of fat burning. The cold could have been carb flu as some people get it later than others but I've noticed an improvement in my immune system so I seem to fight bugs off better.

NoMoreCarbs Thu 14-Aug-14 12:39:35

Long time lurker coming out to seek Low Carb advice. I am on week two of bootcamp and so far am loving this new WOE. Thanks to all for all the info here!

I have been overweight my whole adult life and think this could finally be the way for me.

I feel great. My skin is luminous, I don’t feel hungry, my clothes are looser and I am starting to see the scales go down. I have about 5 stone to lose to get to a healthy BMI.

My problem is that I think I have read too much over the last couple of weeks and have information overload. Now I am worried about not eating enough carbs/eating too much protein. I'm also worried about getting enough fibre? I track on MFP and am not convinced of the accuracy of the data now after what I read about it being a US site.

I was wondering if some of the Low Carb experts here could take a look at two sample days menus and see if I am doing things right.

My questions:

Am I eating enough carbs / too much protein/ how can I get more fibre?

I had a horrendous cold the last few days, which has just disappeared, could this have been Carb Flu?

I have a persistent bad taste in my mouth which won’t go away, no matter how much I brush, can someone tell me if this will eventually lift?

And finally, the thing I am missing most, interestingly, is my diluting juice which I lived on. I am drinking 3-3.5 litres of water every day, but is there anything out there like my old diluting juice I can take? How I miss it so sad
Thanking you in advance!

Day 1: 3 litres of water

B: Two eggs with butter, Coffee with splash of cream
L: Roast chicken thigh, spinach, broccoli, half philadelphia stir in sauce
S: Tablespoon of peanut butter
D: portion of crustless quiche from recipe thread (leeks, bacon,eggs, cream, cheddar, mushrooms)

Day 2: 3.5 litres water

B: 100g Total, 2 tbs of Flaxseed cream coffee
L: homemade mushroom soup (shallots/mushrooms/veg stock cubes)
S: cream coffee and portion of cheddar
D: ribeye steak,spinach,mushrooms,melted boursin

BIWI Thu 24-Jul-14 13:51:28

See tips for dealing with carb flu, above

Mrsmorton Thu 24-Jul-14 11:52:19

I'm in day 12 of induction and I've lost about 5lb which is ace but I am absolutely funking exhausted today.

I usually do some exercise every day but I can't bear the thought of it now. I did cycle for an hour but that's just my commute and very easy. I can barely bring myself to get up to make some food. It's TOTM which maybe isn't helping?

I've done 3l of water already, 2eggs and smoked mackerel for breakfast, tuna mayo with green peppers for lunch and some full fat yoghurt for a snack. This is ok right?

BIWI Mon 21-Jul-14 17:05:10

Here's some interesting reading for you:

What is margarine and why is it bad for you

Treasures Mon 21-Jul-14 16:18:10

OK BIWI thank you smile I had no idea margarine was so bad, I just googled and the first bad thing that came up was about Bertolli, which I normally use. Will convert to butter immediately!

BIWI Mon 21-Jul-14 15:41:55

Treasures - it's impossible to say how many grams you should be aiming for as everyone responds differently. However, as a rough rule of thumb I would say that if you aim for 20-50g a day you should be fine.

Bootcamp has been designed so that you don't need to weigh/count though! Just follow the rules and you should be fine

Butter does not include margarine! Margarine is horrible, processed and artificial stuff. We are aiming to 'eat clean' on Bootcamp, so artificial additives and overly processed foods are not encouraged.

Treasures Mon 21-Jul-14 14:41:41

I have some questions as I'm very new to this and unfortunately don't have time to read through 16 pages of the thread.

1. How many grams of carbs should I be aiming for in total per day?
2. When you say 'butter is fine' does that include margarine? I usually use Bertolli, no idea if that is good or not.
3. damn, I've forgotten what my 3rd question was grin

Mrsmorton Sat 19-Jul-14 12:45:57

BIWI as the low cab subject matter expert, please please please could you look at my thread on the other low carb thread and help me out?

On the plus side, I just tried my jeans on (not worn them for three weeks) and no muffin top. I just feel a bit drained. Think I need some more salt.

BIWI Sat 19-Jul-14 10:50:28

Sorry not to see this yesterday, Dalmation - and I hope you managed to get through your shift.

Tips for dealing with carb flu:

- eat plenty of fat
- drink plenty of water
- you need salt - add to your food/cook with it, and try a drink made with boiling water and an Oxo cube, or Marmite/Bovril
- good foods to eat - salmon, spinach, avocado and natural full fat yoghurt

It should pass very soon, honestly! Hopefully you'll be feeling much better very soon flowers

DalmationStripe Fri 18-Jul-14 07:26:20

I'm not part of the official boot camp so I hope you don't mind me posting here. I started low carbing Yesterday.

I've woken up with carb flu and just wondering if it's meant to be this bad!

I can't stop shaking. I've got no energy, I can just about walk, but it's a struggle and I can't pick the baby up shock I'm sweating like mad and I feel like I'm going to throw up. I've got work tonight (waitress) and I literally don't know how I'm going to manage. I'm not exaggerating when I say I'm not going to be able to carry the heavy plates to the tables.

BIWI Sun 13-Jul-14 18:21:07

Fair enough!

TooSpotty Sun 13-Jul-14 18:19:35

Ah, that overlaps with my Whole 30. I may let myself have some wine on holiday and join you guys in the autumn then. To be honest, the main difference that bootcamp will make to my diet is upping the fat, so I may do my own for a bit and then jump on board.

BIWI Sun 13-Jul-14 18:16:29

Next Bootcamp is only a 5 week one, and it will start on 21/7, if you're interested!

TooSpotty Sun 13-Jul-14 18:06:39

Hurray.

Once my Whole30 is over, I'm coming to bootcamp.

BIWI Sun 13-Jul-14 17:24:29

No need to lose them at all, TooSpotty! They are all fine.

TooSpotty Sun 13-Jul-14 17:20:35

Biwi, thanks. I don't eat potato at all now, or squash or new potato very much. But we eat lots and lots of leafy green veg - kale, spinach, chard, cabbage etc - so I quail a bit at losing them.

BIWI Sun 13-Jul-14 17:15:12

That's good to hear! grin

NAR4 Sun 13-Jul-14 14:25:10

Just want to say (for the sake of anyone else who feels close to giving up). I feel much better now, so the carb sickness only lasted a day.

Thankyou BIWI for being there.

flowers [Smiley face]

NAR4 Sat 12-Jul-14 16:36:57

Thank you, I will keep going until Monday and see if I improve. At the moment I can barely drag myself off the sofa to go to the toilet. Also have found the number of toilet trips needed have kept me almost housebound. Hope that improves soon too.

Hats off to all you ladies, I didn't realise I would feel so dreadful at the beginning.

BIWI Sat 12-Jul-14 14:59:40

It should pass quickly - honestly! And you're through the worst part of it, so don't stop now.

flowers

NAR4 Sat 12-Jul-14 14:30:52

Doing the things you suggest. Do you think it will pass by Monday? I have 5 children (1 who has lots of night feeds) and work evenings. I can't manage everything like this, so may have to abandon diet, if not.

BIWI Sat 12-Jul-14 13:44:55

Toospotty - I think the list you must have been looking at was the list of carb counts for all veg. Focus on eating those that are 3-4g carbs per 100g as much as you can. Cabbage isn't too bad, just balance it with lower carb veg. But avoid potato!

BIWI Sat 12-Jul-14 13:43:43

It's carb flu, NAR4 - it will pass soon. In the meantime:

- make sure you're drinking plenty of water and eating plenty of fat
- you need to keep your electrolytes up (sodium, magnesium and potassium), so make sure you're cooking with salt/adding salt to food - or drink hot water with an Oxo cube dissolved into it, or some Marmite/Bovril. Salmon, avocado, spinach and natural full fat yoghurt are all good too.

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