How much money for a lone parent with 3 children

(43 Posts)
Sweepitundertherug Tue 27-Mar-12 18:24:59

I am soon to be leaving my h.

I will have to leave (via refuge)

I am trying to plan stuff.

I will have to go n income support. How does this work?

How much money (approx) will I get?

Do they pay a proportion of rent and council tax.

Kids are 12, 10, and three.

I will be looking for work. Youngest starts work a year sept,

Many thanks.

Btw I have looked on the uk.gov website and can't make head nor tail of it.

Sweepitundertherug Tue 27-Mar-12 18:26:08

Youngest starts school not work. They don't let them up chimneys any more do they wink

Hi sweep
I'm sorry to hear of your situation but glad you have found the strength to leave.
I'm sure there will be someone along in a minute who will know all the ins and outs, I just didn't want to read and not post.

I don't know about income support rates but I do know you will get housing benefit and council tax benefit.
The council tax will cover the whole amount.
The housing benefit will be whatever your LA rates are, for example in enfield it would be a maximum of £1200 for a 3 bed house.

Good luck, keep us posted x

Meglet England Tue 27-Mar-12 18:29:35

The only bit I know about is child benefit. I get working tax credits, but that varies on how much you earn.

I get 25% off my council tax as I'm counted as a single person.

<<not very helpful>>

colditz Tue 27-Mar-12 18:32:20

They will probably pay all your council tax. Your rent will depend on your local housing allowance for your family. What genders are your children and what council is your district council?

You will get £65 per week income support, roughly £140 per week child tax credit and £45 a week child benefit.

If yor children's father is working you will get maintenance at 25% of his income.

sazm Tue 27-Mar-12 18:46:48

i am a single mum to 3 kids, i get £47.10 child benefit, £159 ctc a week . as well as £134 a fortnight for income support, they pay £1200 of my council tax a yr and £103 a wee towards my rent (for a 3 bedroom house). if you look on your local council website,it should tell you the rate of rent they will pay a week.

How are you doing though op, other than trying to pick your way through the confusion of the benefits system.

Hope you are ok

Sweepitundertherug Tue 27-Mar-12 19:15:16

Thanks all x

Rents are expensive around here in the south east. There is very little social housing. Someone I knew was in a refuge for over a year as there was nowhere for her to go. That does worry me a little. I do not want to go in one of the tower blocks in the town centre as they are in the news almost daily with drugs and fires in the stair wells. The majority of the residents are lovely. Just a very small minority are making it hell.

My kids are naice ham sorts wink and wouldn't survive for long!

I have looked at private. Approx £850 per week for a 3 bed. Have 2 boys and 1 girl. It would be getting a deposit and all that, which would stop me getting somewhere there.

He is so shit with how much money he gives me though, that ridiculously, it looks like I'd be financially better off without him.

RandomMess Tue 27-Mar-12 19:21:49

I'm in the SE and SIL is working part time and still gets pretty much full housing benefit and council tax benefit, she got some assistance with the deposit too - some sort of loan.

have you looked at entitledto.com

Sweepitundertherug Tue 27-Mar-12 19:24:18

I even found entitled to hard, but actually, I have more information now so I will look there again.

It is a minefield. How the Blardy hell do people fiddle the system?!

Sweep you can get help with a deposit from the council.

queenofitall Wed 28-Mar-12 00:54:37

Sweep:been there & done it 2 years ago.
Book an appointment with your local council "housing options" (they should have a DV co-ordinator who can liaise with you), they will tell you everything you need to know about benefits & will give you applications for benefit and assistance providing you with a deposit bond.
They should have a list of available properties to rent.
Most likely you would be entitled to 3 bedrooms, check the LHA website for your area (google LHA) to see what the housing allowance is.
You are statutarily homeless & are high priority. You need to consider schools, catchment areas & transport options as well as rental values - see rightmove website to get some idea.
Also if you need to set up home/furniture etc, try freecycle in your area using the internet- sofas beds etc are often available - & ebay is useful.
I moved with nothing, with 2 children on income support (I was advised to give up my job for legal aid for injunctions etc), & found it really hard to budget & prioritise. Having said that, please be kind to yourself you will be in a recovery process.

Sweepitundertherug Wed 28-Mar-12 11:13:07

Thank you for all your help. I am between 3 councils.

Have done the calculations and get £800 pm towas rent. That can just about scrape a place.

Thanks x

queenofitall Thu 29-Mar-12 20:56:52

I wish you well with your plans, I hope you find a place you can create into a nice home for you and your family.

purpleroses Thu 29-Mar-12 23:27:43

Once you're at the refuge they should be able to help you with this sort of thing. The housing benefit you will get varies depending on where the place is. Otherwise the figures that sazm gives are likely to be the same for you.

Duckypoohs Thu 29-Mar-12 23:58:56

Glad you are getting out sweep, wrt to furnishing your house, I live in the SE (herts) and local to me there is a furniture recycling place, all furniture is very cheap but additionally if you are on certain benefits you get an additional 50% off, it's brilliant. You can get some lovely furniture for peanuts (bought a single bed for £30, brand new looking, looked it up online and it retailed at about £1200 shock), maybe there will be something like this in your area.

Also if you are on income support you used to be able to claim a grant, although I'm not sure if that still exists, I'm sure wa will be able to help you. Good luck, I read your other thread and my stomach was constantly churning, no idea what it must be like to live like that.

Sweepitundertherug Fri 30-Mar-12 14:11:45

Thank you duckypoohs x

Jeremyjames Wed 26-Dec-12 19:14:52

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KidderminsterKate Wed 26-Dec-12 19:21:26

ummm women pay taxes too you twunt

Jemma1111 Wed 26-Dec-12 19:21:57

With an attitude like that jeremyjames no wonder your'e single.

MissPricklePants Wed 26-Dec-12 19:25:01

Jeremy the OP is planning to leave via a refuge indicating abuse! We cannot have a society where some men find it acceptable to abuse their partner's. The benefit system is essentially a safety net, it will help the OP get back on her feet! She has also stated she is planning to work when her youngest starts school next year. And just to point out women do work, so take your aged patriarchal views with you on the way out of this thread eh?

OP if you speak to the job centre they can help you with things like a deposit etc. I hope it all works out for you, stay strong and ggod luck!

D0G Wed 26-Dec-12 19:28:32

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

OldLadyKnowsNothing Wed 26-Dec-12 19:31:21

Op was posted back in March, I hope she's happy and settled by now.

Worley Wed 26-Dec-12 19:33:28

JeremyJames... it's not just you men who pay taxes and not every one is fortunate to be your position.. Single (hmmm wonder why) and working 50 hours a week.. There has been an occasion when I needed help from te government and in happy to repay for that help in my taxes now.

Worley ( mother to two dc, working 47 hours a week in employment on 37k a year, not to mention work done running a home) (oh and I'm single because I discovered women cannot rely on most men)

droves Wed 26-Dec-12 19:33:34

By the goddess I swear I didn't actually think there were real human beings out there that think like jeremyjames ...if that is a real post by a real person then his parents should be ashamed of themselves for raising such a twatbag.

Jj you should remember that a woman gave life to you , you horrible mysoginistic creature .... A Woman , carried you beneath her heart for 9 months and yet you have such hatred in your attitude for women .

jeremyjamescook@imacunt.co.uk
Looking for your next mysogynistic article are you ?
Why don't you fuck off ?

Jemma1111 Wed 26-Dec-12 21:24:25

Crawled back under your rock JeremyJames?

jeremy160775 Tue 01-Jan-13 15:32:58

ITALIAN SOCIAL SYSTEM. Look I've read all the responses and had a think. It is obvious from the responses that women are actaully quite ambivalent (double minded) about welfare. I get the impression from the reponses that women definately want entitlement to welfare but at the same time are actually a bit ashamed about having to claim welfare???. Well look I do have some sensitivity (I have a degree in 'history of art') and that leads me on to this next point. I've been to Italy a total of 8 times in the last 15 years and in Italy they have virtually no welfare system despite being a very rich country. It is the culture in Italy that if you don't have a job then your family must support you. I mean I don't totally agree with it because not everyone has a family. However in Italy that is the LAW and that law applies to anyone who dosent have a job regardless of whether they are male/female or with children/without children. Although it sounds draconian the absense of a welfare system does actaully encourage families to stick together more and women have to think very carefully before they have a child with no husband to support them as there is nothing to full back on instead (except turning to their own parents for support). Can I just ask what do any of you think of the Italian social system???, jeremy

cafebistro Tue 01-Jan-13 16:10:17

who gives a hoot about the Italian social system? It doesn't apply here, the OP is living in the UK not Italy. It's all very well saying that women should think very carefully before having a child with no husband to support them but what about women who live with abuse daily? Should they stay in that situation? Or get the hell out?

CabbageLeaves Tue 01-Jan-13 16:24:12

Is Jeremy for real? It is 2013?

women have to think very carefully before they have a child with no husband to support them

1. Should men have to think just as carefully? Presumably a responsible father supports a child?
2. Women often support men you know?
3. A system which forces women to accept support means those women have to accept it regardless of strings attached (often abuse) This cannot be good
4. The one thing I would agree with is making yourself as independent as possible. NOT a system which forces you to rely on anyone

MatureUniStudent Tue 01-Jan-13 17:25:05

With apologies to the original OP, I wish to reply to Jeremy.

Two points. The birthrate in Italy has fallen dramatically meaning there is a considerable pension burden from those living longer. Young Italian women choose not to follow the "traditional" role open to them in the past, of Catholic Marriage and dependance on a man. Italian women want and strive for more in their lives. Hence less children being born.

Secondly, you miss the fundamental point of single parents and the benefit system. And hence why your vitriol is laughable. Single parents want to work. To never be economically reliant on an abusive partner. Single parents do not intend on making a life out of living on benefits. You couldn't afford to.

You forget also, that single parents had a life before children and doubtless paid taxes. Indeed many abusive partners continue to work and pay taxes. I doubt my widowed mother, on her pension would like me and my DC's to be dependant on her, because their feckless father fails to pay.

Your vitriol should be directed at those that force single parents to be reliant on the benefit system. Those that refuse to support their responsibilities, their offspring. You are, at best, misguided.

jeremy160775 Tue 01-Jan-13 18:05:34

Well look there are so many blokes where I work who are members of the 'fathers-4-justice' campaign. They all say that women abuse the welfare system because there are so many aspects of the welfare system that women are elidgible for but which men are not elidgible for. For example women can claim legal aid but the bloke can't if there is a custody case - if the bloke is working. The blokes all say women with children can always go to the council to get a flat to live in but the bloke can't (95% of homeless people are men). The blokes all say that women can always go on benefits whereas the bloke can't. There is one bloke at work called Simon. In his divorce settlement the judge ordered him to take on £15,000 of credit card debts that his partner had ran up on things she demanded for the home that they couldn't afford- also she dosent even want the children, she just wants the council house and generous DSS benefits that go with having the children (one has got ADHD - I wonder why)

queenofthepirates Japan Tue 01-Jan-13 18:08:58

Jeremy, could i gently suggest you start a new thread on here; it's muddying the waters for the OP who has asked specific questions to which she would like some advice.

Everyone else, can I suggest we leave Jeremy to start a new thread so this one can be returned to the OP for the advice she is clearly needing.

MatureUniStudent Tue 01-Jan-13 18:12:46

Jeremy I echo what queen said. And I don't know if you are being obtuse on purpose, or trolling to find information for a newspaper article or a thesis - but perhaps you should spare a modicum of empathy for the OP who faces issues in life, that may you PRAY, you never have to go through.

pumpkinsweetieMasPudding Tue 01-Jan-13 18:16:28

Hope you are okay op, things will work themselves out, don't worry.
Ignore Jeremy as i don't get what italy has got to do with this at all.

pumpkinsweetieMasPudding Tue 01-Jan-13 18:19:51

Fwiw op, you should be able to claim income support, your child tax credit will stay more or less the same, as will child benefit. You should get the majority of your rent paid & until april all of your council tax.
The rent allowances vary per area

pumpkinsweetieMasPudding Tue 01-Jan-13 18:20:28

And income support is around £67 per week

Foxy800 Tue 01-Jan-13 20:29:59

I hope that the op has managed to sort things out and is now settled with her children.

However I want to put one last thing in response to Jeremy's last statement!!! How dare you make that assumption about a person's child with ADHD and it being their fault. My daughter has recently been diagnosed with ADHD, so is that because her Dad left me!!!Is it?

Anyway back to the op I was really worried when he left but have been coping ok financially, wont go into details as many others have already suggested them. As it is an old thread though am hoping you are all sorted and settled now.

foolonthehill Tue 01-Jan-13 20:31:12

This was posted by Sweep in March last year and has been resurrected by MrJ (to what purpose I cannot imagine)

jeremy160775 Tue 01-Jan-13 21:50:23

First of all what is an OP, also I was stirred up on Boxing Day when I read about the £500 benefits cap, yet I have to work 50 hours a week at a wholesalers yet get no help from the state all (and have had to sign to opt out of the EU working time directive as I have to work over the 48 hour a week limit in the directive). I think us men deserve more recognition of our role in society and in relationships, that was why I posted on Boxing Day

foolonthehill Tue 01-Jan-13 22:08:36

OP= original poster

foolonthehill Tue 01-Jan-13 22:16:08

^I think us men deserve more recognition of our role in society and in relationships, that was why I posted^

personally I think that there are people who work hard and people who don't, irrespective of gender.

there are people who treat their partners badly and others who treat them well.

there are single parents who are men who qualify for state benefits, and single parents who are women who also do.

there are time waster men who disappear and leave their female partner/wife to go it alone, and women who do the same.

State aid is equally available to both men and women. The main difference at present is that women are more likely to be left literally holding the baby, thus diminishing their opportunity to work for some years.

I think men have more than a fair crack at recognition and power...or have I missed the legion of women running things in the top city jobs and government?

lunar1 Tue 01-Jan-13 22:23:33

Sweep I remember your first thread, so glad you are getting out. Hope everything is going well. I have often wondered how you are.

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