WHERE'S BEST TO LIVE IN NZ ETC PART 7 !!

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frikonastick Mon 06-May-13 06:42:08

Come oooonnnnnn MNHQ, where's our medal grin

giantpenguinmonster Mon 06-May-13 07:27:54

Justa- has your DH asked the uni about it? My understanding in the UK was that staff could do consultancy but the Uni takes a percentage and passes on the rest.

vvviola Mon 06-May-13 08:06:22

Marking my place as I scuttle off to work on my CV... grin

WhatSheSaid Mon 06-May-13 08:30:16

Bookmarking.

Getting to test out my Tesco thermal socks and fleeces today. Brrrrrr.

justaboutalittlefrazzled Mon 06-May-13 08:43:35

I can't go into too much detail on here as we are fairly identifiable but thank you and your points have been noted.

I can officially report that yes, the insulation HAS made a difference. I am just now at 7pm thinking that ooh it might be nice to turn a heater on but I'm not actually cold enought that I need to, trousers and a longsleeved top are quite enough. At these temperatures last year I was absolutely freezing and miserable. Yay.

(apols to lolly in the spidershack etc).

vvviola Mon 06-May-13 23:59:58

Justa - thank you so much for the rainbow idea. I'd remembered the basic idea but couldn't quite figure out how to apply it in our case. Hopefully I'll get a nice quiet moment to talk to her over the next few days.

CV going in today. Am agreeing with the advice of why not just give it a try (especially as the salary is pretty decent)

justaboutalittlefrazzled Tue 07-May-13 00:04:34

ooh, let me know how it goes. it will probably take a little while to sink in and there will definitely be moments where she screams "actually my socks getting wet IS the worst colour in the world!" but you can smile wisely and say "that is why you need to learn emotional resilience, my child." then I recommend you take cover sharpish.

frikonastick Tue 07-May-13 01:34:39

So went on a 6km walk with DH today, beautiful beautiful beautiful day here. Completely forgot/ignored that I have a sore ankle. And am now laid up on the couch with an ice pack! I'm such an idiot. Honestly I don't know what's up with me lately. I really seem to have lost my ability to be sensible. Even DH has noticed, after I put the duvet back in the duvet cover inside out for the THIRD time this morning.

giantpenguinmonster Tue 07-May-13 08:59:40

Great news Vvv- fingers crossed for you.

Frik- Distraction etc is pretty normal when you have lost someone close. Don't expect to be 100% atm. Be kind to yourself.

DD (who is 4 in a few weeks) asked me how she got in my tummy today. FFS. First she asked me if I had swallowed her. Then how she got there. I did not expect to have to explain this yet.

WhatSheSaid Tue 07-May-13 09:05:12

Dd (5) asked me tonight when she would die. I really wasn't expecting that! She has never yet asked me how she got in my tummy.

frikonastick Tue 07-May-13 09:45:31

Whatshesaid, it was my birthday a couple of weeks ago and DD(4) woke me up in the morning with lovely cuddles and kisses and said happy birthday mommy and I told her she was a pet for remembering, and it was lovely.

Right up until she said, ok mommy, now can we talk about dying?

I didn't know wether to laugh or cry!

I was like, What?! Right now? Do we have to? She said yes please so I just asked her what do ou want to know about it? And she wanted to know how people died. So I said that their heart goes slower and slower until they fall into a deep sleep and then they don't wake up. Then she asked for chocolate for breakfast.

But today she told me she doesn't want to die. So I just said, oh ok, well don't then. <completely out of my depth> and she seemed to accept that as sensible.

Oh oh oh AND she asked me how she got in my tummy. I told her daddy put her there and she laughed like a drain! She doesn't believe me grin

frikonastick Tue 07-May-13 09:47:25

Thanks penguin. That actually makes sense, although I hadn't put it together that way. I've been finding this week very hard. It will be a month on the 9th.

justaboutalittlefrazzled Tue 07-May-13 09:55:17

Penguin is right, I had forgotten. It's something we were always told at theological college to warn people about, so they didn't try to operate heavy machinery etc.

Sounds like you did the right thing with your conversation with DD.

vvviola Tue 07-May-13 21:23:20

Morning all. First day back leading the walking school bus. How on earth did I allow myself get talked into volunteering??

Anyone come across any (preferably free/cheap) things to do for toddlers? DD2 is at a really tricky age: she's too old for the baby stuff, and not quite big enough for the younger pre-school stuff.

Might try the lollipops soft play today - DH is working from home after being in the office til after 1amshock So he's a little on the tired & grumpy side, so marauding 20 month old won't help matters!

Sibble Wed 08-May-13 00:20:49

morning - probably a bit late for suggestions today and my boys are alot older but from memory we used to spend alot of time at the beach collecting shells, at the park, at the botanic gardens (great kids area, space for them to run and cafe), local pools. Wet days lollypops or similar (personally I hated going there - always cold but good for wet days)

Poor ds2 has had a vomiting bug, headache, achy limbs - I've had about 2 hours sleep paranoid he might have meningitis so couldn't sleep, he slept like a baby between bouts of vomiting. Not functioning too well today. Really couldn't do a new born/sleep deprivation again!

On another note - I have grabone vouchers for ferry to Waiheke - if you were going for lunch with an 8 and 13 year old where would you go and what are must sees if only doing a day trip. TIA

WhatSheSaid Wed 08-May-13 01:32:09

Hope ds2 is better sibble

vvviola. We go to playgroup a couple of days a week and Mainly Music another day. More for the coffee, biscuits and company for me sometimes! Been at the same playgroup since dd1 was 10 mo so it's been fine for all ages really. We dont spend much on activities In fine weather, beaches, parks, playgrounds etc. Regional parks - Ambury is good with farm animals but quite far from you. Story/craft times at the library.

I only really did soft play a lot the winter dd2 was born so dd1 could run around for hours while I was getting over a c section. I check Eventfinder sometimes to see what's on for kids. And there's a Facebook page "things to do in Auckland with toddlers", something like that.

vvviola Wed 08-May-13 01:39:54

Thanks for the suggestions - will definitely look at the botanic gardens, maybe even for a family trip.

WSS, I'll confess I've been avoiding playgroups. Partly because I really struggle with being the newcomer at places like that, but partly also because of DD2's allergies. For a long time the idea of lots of kids wandering around with biscuits and snacks made me very nervous (I had to leave DD2's Christmas party after 10 minutes as I just couldn't control things with all the food on low tables). But we seem to be on a bit of an even keel with those now - and the reaction we have had have been minor & treatable with anti-histamine so I may give it a try now.

Avoided lollipops today by a quick visit to the mall & the colouring/toys section at Whitcoulls.

What I need is an indoor park smile big space for running about, couple of swing & a sandpit. Without the temptation of big things to climb grin
how did a wimp like me end up with two such daredevil children?

giantpenguinmonster Wed 08-May-13 01:50:19

Have you liked 'Things to do in Auckland with Toddlers' on facebook Vvv?

WhatSheSaid Wed 08-May-13 02:02:57

Of course, I forgot about the allergies. Makes playgroups etc harder. Playgroups can be hit and miss, I go to a great one where I've met lots of nice people but I tried another one many times and just never really clicked with anyone there.

frikonastick Wed 08-May-13 02:39:12

I need to do something to make friends. I joined a sewing course but I ended up being the only adult (other than the tutor) with three teenage girls. It's still fun and I love going, but limited obviously in terms of friends. DD has two friends, both of who's moms I have met and had round for play dates and are very nice, but have established and full social lives / groups and don't seem likely to invite me round or join in. Ironically one of their husbands has already taken to DH and they've even been to the movies and stuff.

Our next door neighbours on both sides are very nice and I often pass the time of day when I see them out and about in the garden or park.

I'm normally pretty good at being personable and likeable and given how often we move etc etc, being able to make friends is a skill I have had plenty of practice with. But I seem to be floundering here. I find myself talking too much, not asking enough questions about the other person, or not talking at all. I just don't know what's wrong with me.

Right now DH and DD are in the playroom lounge having lunch and chatting. I have, on the other hand, moved one of the couches in the main lounge so I can sit behind it on the bean bag. There is a patch of sun here. But mostly, I just want to sit behind the couch. I am aware that this is not normal. Lol, DH has just come by and passed me a plate of lunch over the back of the couch. I said sorry, I know I'm being weird and he said, straight faced, are you? I love him.

I can't remember what the hell I was trying to say

justaboutalittlefrazzled Wed 08-May-13 03:13:06

Aw frik. Beanbag behind the couch sounds lovely and just right on this occasion.
There is no patch of sun in Auckland!

giantpenguinmonster Wed 08-May-13 03:17:46

Lol. No patch of sun here either. My fingers are going numb.

I am about to book our second overseas trip this week. I think I may have winter blues. (Both accompanying DH on work things so cheap.)

justaboutalittlefrazzled Wed 08-May-13 04:29:19

LOL. Ooh, where are you going?

giantpenguinmonster Wed 08-May-13 04:54:39

Sydney and another location which would seriously out me grin.

vvviola Wed 08-May-13 05:13:16

I have abandoned all study, housework & toddler entertaining. I am instead building an ark.

Not sure about the 2 of every kind of animal lark mind you...

meerkate Wed 08-May-13 18:01:22

but frik <slaps forehead> (mine, not yours) i have a friend who can be your friend smile i will scurry off to arrange this immediately smile she emigrated about 5 years ago now and loves it in tauranga, we were pals way back when our first babies were born (now just turned 12) and we were living in the same cosy neighbourhood in the north of england. i will message you on FB! xxx

frikonastick Wed 08-May-13 22:55:35

Vvvv I had visions of origami cardboard animals for a minute there!

Thanks meerkate :-)

giantpenguinmonster Thu 09-May-13 00:13:14

Vvv- you would need at least ten of each species for a viable population. You may need a very big ark.

I am not coping well with the cold. Last night I almost cried when I had to search the freezer for something. I normally don't put the heating on if I'm home on my own but I think this may be foolish.

Meerkate- how did the interview go?

justaboutalittlefrazzled Thu 09-May-13 03:05:50

good ark joke for children (also useful if you want to challenge the creationist crap that they picked up from god knows where)

"What did the dinosaurs say to Noah?"
"Gee, thanks for making the doors so small."

meerkate Thu 09-May-13 07:18:46

littlestturnedgiant the interview a while back went nowhere, cos the dept and he had been misinformed about each other and they were the wrong fit, or whatever the correct jargon would be! But he has another one soon with the right dept, an informal Skype chat first of all on Wed next week. Will let you know how that goes.

A job has come up in Perth too, but we think it' s not the right one, all in all - wouldn't necessarily lead to anything beyond a year's contract.

Meanwhile spring is gorgeous here, the garden is beautiful (first spring in new house, so every new bloom is a surprise and a delight - thank God, have enlisted a friend's mum to help with the actual gardening bit though, not my forte grin) and DH has a new part time honorary post in a big city hospital with loads going on to keep him busy and interested, so all is good! That means being away several weeks a year, it's not yet clear how many. He is a part time family man these days as I keep haranguing him wink , has been in Nepal too recently working for two weeks, but hey, I like to see his skills go to some use smile and he had never worked in a developing country before so it was a massive eye opener for him which is great.

So, patience, I tell myself, the right thing will surely come along in due course smile

And meanwhile I am accumulating mammoth amounts of credits in the me-time bank, and plan to take a gap year very soon grin

vvviola Thu 09-May-13 08:22:44

Justa - that gave me a good giggle. grin

And giantpenguin (feels weird calling you that!) that info about the needing 10 of each animal made me smile too. grin

vvviola Thu 09-May-13 08:30:09

Frik - you mean something like this?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B002AWD1PC

grin

Very chilly & damp here tonight. Still trying to resist putting on heaters though - time for an extra layer

frikonastick Thu 09-May-13 08:36:30

Lol vvvv!! Can't believe there actually is such a thing! I mean, who's got time for that!

Justa, had a giggle at that one grin

vvviola Thu 09-May-13 10:36:13

The job application just went in.

shock

Fingers crossed it all works out (whatever that may mean... I know what the "perfect" scenario would be, but there's plenty of other scenarios which could potentially work too)

frikonastick Thu 09-May-13 10:37:48

Crossing fingers and toes xxx

giantpenguinmonster Thu 09-May-13 11:43:43

Btw, DD has been talking about a giant penguin monster that comes in the night and squashes people. No wonder the kid resists bedtime! Even Scooby and the gang who sleep under her bed don't protect her.

Sorry to hear about the first job meerkate. Hope the ADHB one is a better fit. I have about 12 weeks of credit so may join you on the gap year. I'm thinking Vanuatu.

Vvv- good luck on the job application.

Sibble Thu 09-May-13 20:29:24

vvv - good luck!

frikonastick Thu 09-May-13 22:12:40

Penguin, this morning DD told DH that I kept her awake all night by 'walking around reading the iPad'....... Kids are weird

Good luck meerkats DH!

frikonastick Fri 10-May-13 00:57:09

Right. Dishwasher salt. I can't seem to find it anywhere. Please help!

WhatSheSaid Fri 10-May-13 01:04:43

Never used it. What's it for?

frikonastick Fri 10-May-13 01:26:26

It's salt. For the dishwasher. grin

You put it in the hole with the cap on at the bottom of the machine. Some people don't use it because they use 5 in one tablets or whatever, but mine has stopped cleaning nicely which can be down to harder water and the salt helps the tablets clean better.

BBQWidow Fri 10-May-13 01:39:32

For the person asking about free things to do...have you seen the website www.planmyplay.co.nz

Really recommend it! Free and paid for activities. There's stuff on there in the area that I'd grown up that I'd never heard of.

WhatSheSaid Fri 10-May-13 01:41:09

Well I guessed it might be grin, I've just never heard of it, so I guess it's not commonly used here...

giantpenguinmonster Fri 10-May-13 01:42:18

Ah, I have always ignored that hole. I wonder if this is why I've always thought kiwi dishwashers were shit.

FiftyShadesofGreyMatter Sat 11-May-13 04:28:11

You don't need dishwasher salt in NZ smile

Sibble Sat 11-May-13 06:42:41

BBQWidow Great site!

WhatSheSaid Sat 11-May-13 21:40:46

Happy Mothers Day everyone smile

AngryBeaver Sat 11-May-13 21:48:00

Happy mothersd ay all
good link vvv!
Sibble, I think the eco zip would be your best bet with the boys on waiheke& the skate park? And you an always come to mine for a cuppa smile
Well, I'm lying here posting from my bed. Went out last night.
Cocktails at the oyster inn, then onto an accoustic night where we had wine, then to the sand bar for shots.....uuuuuuggghhh!how I got up my drive in hels in the pitch black will remain a mystery.
I have people coming for a Mother's Day meal...what can I make for desert, help?!

AngryBeaver Sat 11-May-13 21:48:21

That was good luck vvv

WhatSheSaid Sat 11-May-13 21:53:36

Easy make-with-a-hangover dessert? Meringues and whipped cream and fruit? You could buy the meringues. Or get dh to make dessert, seeing as how its Mothers Day and everything?

Meant to say, yes, love that planmyplay link bbqwidow

AngryBeaver Sat 11-May-13 22:28:52

Yes a dessert, not a desert...that's what my mouth feels like!
Merangue maybe a goer. Or poss crumble, is tinned rhubarb a faux pas do you think??
I'm making beef stew, dumplings, colcannon...real comforting, rainy winters day food.. And it's blooming love,y outside.,

WhatSheSaid Sat 11-May-13 22:37:32

Ha, I hadn't even noticed the typo. I doubt tinned rhubarb is a faux pas, NZ hardly has high society rules does it? Bit more laid back than that smile. Crumble is v easy and fits with the "warm winter food" theme on this gorgeous sunny day

Frik did you ever find a supply of your special sensitive deodorant stuff? Or a replacement?

xMinerva Sat 11-May-13 23:04:28

Just a quickie as off to work (again) in a minute.

Happy Mother's Day to you all. Hope you all have a lovely day, enjoy the weather.

We had Beef Stew & Dumplings on Friday, was lovely and warming. Apple pie and custard for dessert. Mmmmmm.

Sibble Sun 12-May-13 01:25:55

Yes happy mothers day all too. I was feeling slightly jadded this morning as well but I'm a light weight - half a bottle of wine and had to get up for paracetamol in the night and felt jadded this morning so have spent the past 4 hours gardening. Feel heaps better now but dh has just gone to the bakery to get pies all round for lunch! Boys are also cooking dinner tonight - more pie - actually beef in beer with a pie lid grin, ds1 made a chocolate cake last night for dessert which we'll have tonight we well.

What a great day.

My easy dessert - chocolate brownie or cake with raspberry coulis and optional cream or ice cream. All can be done in advance unless you want the brownie warm. I remember once a friend being horrified that they were invited to another friends for dinner and they served......cheese and biscuits for dessert - up until that point in time that was my staple offering for dessert! I am not a dessert person - have had to learn to do one or two! Thankfully I'd only done pot luck dinners with her!

vvviola Sun 12-May-13 01:48:22

Happy Mothers Day everyone!

Brunch in bed and lots of random homemade cards from DD1 here. Was very cute.

Roast pork for us tonight. I'll be doing it myself but I actually don't mind so much - if DH manages to control the crazies I quite enjoy pottering about in the kitchen.

I'd go with crumble for dessert too (I actually might make one, now that it has been mentioned!). We found last year that feijoa and apple make a lovely tasting crumble.

I'll be up all night finishing an assignment I think confused I just couldn't (still can't!) get my head around it and it's due for tomorrow. I've done about 1200 of the 2000 words, but suspect I'll have to rewrite most of it as it doesn't actually make sense.

Oh and thanks a million for that planmyplay link - it's fantastic!

Sibble Sun 12-May-13 02:21:23

Oh and I did get presents - gardening gloves (used this morning) and a rowing machine and cross trainer off trade me! I am a fair weather fitness person and work has been interfering with getting to classes but now I'll be as fit as!

WhatSheSaid Sun 12-May-13 04:37:51

I got a DVD player, we haven't had one since last year when dd2 broke it by jamming bits of Playmobil in it.

Also a card from dd1, breakfast in bed and dh is currently cooking roast chicken and all the trimmings for tea.

Dd1's class have a blog and their teachers put up a video today of all of them saying stuff to the mums. Very very cute.

vvviola Mon 13-May-13 21:40:44

Despite having a nasty cold, DD2 went to bed (early) last night, was asleep by 7:30... and slept right through til 6!!

Obviously once doesn't make a pattern, but... hurray! grin

I needed it too, with my assignment & a bad night for her on Sunday night I only ended up with 1.5hrs sleep on Sunday night. shock

frikonastick Mon 13-May-13 21:51:26

Whatshesaid, yes thanks I am using the sanex roll on my mom sent from the UK. I still have tenderness and a bit of discomfort, but it's better than the others. Am hoping my sensitivity will get less as time goes on.

Had a lovely lovely weekend, climbed mt mounganui on sat and on Sunday just lazed about with DH and DD, then yesterday went fishing on the kayak and needed up rescuing a petrel that had broken its wing.

It has been such beautiful weather the last four days, it's beautiful again today :-)

Glad to hear you got a proper nights sleep vvv, sibble if I knew you were in the market for a cross trainer you could have had ours! Lol. AB hope your lunch went well :-)

Sibble Mon 13-May-13 23:57:45

frik I am always in the market for a gym gadget that I can keep in the garage so every time I get in and out of the car I think 'oh cr*p I must do some exercise' lol. I now need to manouver in and out of the garage around the crosstrainer, rowing machine, swiss ball, skipping rope and weights etc... while every morning when I get dressed the pilates and zumba dvds glare at me from the top shelf in the walk in wardrobe - inside I am a gym bunny grin

Sibble Mon 13-May-13 23:59:25

oh and the yoga mat is in the boot of the car in case the mood takes me at any stage but mostly gets moved around the car while I transport boys, friends and shopping grin

giantpenguinmonster Tue 14-May-13 23:38:37

We seem to have been invaded by tiny cockroaches. They are everywhere. Yesterday I found one that had crawled into a picture frame and died. Sigh. We have robocans but I'm a bit crap about refilling them cos they are so expensive.

Anyone else got this problem?

WhatSheSaid Wed 15-May-13 01:27:00

Noooo, no little cockroaches here. I've actually switched the Robocan off now - I only have it on in summer for flies, ants etc. We don't seem to get many bugs in winter. Caught three mice one night though!

frikonastick Wed 15-May-13 05:44:31

Check on the tiny cockroaches.

Speak to me of robocan

giantpenguinmonster Wed 15-May-13 07:14:33

You get them in the supermarket or mitre10 and they release a small amount of insect spray every 30 mins or so. Most kiwi's seem to have them. I'm not a fan of air fresheners but the adverts say they are the equivalent of a 10 second spray of bug killer or something. But they only last about a month and the refills are about $10-12.

BBQWidow Wed 15-May-13 07:57:16

We get our place sprayed as I found those Robocan things left awful marks on the paintwork...plus the sporadic noise turned me into that Catherine Tate character who jumps at everything.

frikonastick Thu 16-May-13 00:58:52

Hmm, maybe getting sprayed would be better.

While getting DD ready for school this morning, I say to DH, so, what's the plan of action, meaning, who is making DDs lunch box me or him. But before he can answer, DD says in a sort of considering way, well he needs to find a job really. We were like shock then grin grin grin

vvviola Thu 16-May-13 02:28:12

So far we've only needed the robocan in the garage. Our biggest issue outside of there has been ants in the kitchen. Yuk.

May I be excused a brief moment of first world/generally healthy children problems. Am feeling a bit sorry for myself. DD2 has a nasty cold, and developed a temperature at creche today. Had to go get her and she won't be able to go back tomorrow (24 hour rule for temperatures and in fairness she'll probably still be miserable so she'll be better off at home). Usually no problem at all, but tomorrow is my birthday and DH had taken the day off so he could take me for lunch & a movie. Which obviously now won't be happening. So I'm having a little toddler tantrum because it's not fair winkIt'll only last a moment & then I'll be back to feeling sorry for the poor little mite. (Like I said first world/healthy children problem blushblush)

giantpenguinmonster Thu 16-May-13 03:42:19

I'm hoping a house washing will help with the bugs. Found 5 of the little sods on the back of our door this morning!

That sucks about your day off Vvv. Child free time is so precious it's no surprising you are pissed off. Happy birthday for tomorrow. Hope you and DH can still do something nice.

Sibble Thu 16-May-13 04:23:53

yes happy birthday for tomorrow and there is nothing wrong with feeling sorry for yourself when your birthday treat has been scuppered! Hope you get spoilt anyway!

frikonastick Thu 16-May-13 21:40:37

Happy birthday vvvv!! Hope you have a lovely day inspire of illnesses xxx

frikonastick Thu 16-May-13 21:41:32

In spite! In spite of illnesses........Jeeze.

giantpenguinmonster Fri 17-May-13 02:16:24

I've had a rather distressing morning. One of the new mum's at DD's swimming class hit her daughter today. In anger cos the little girl was crying with fear. Luckily I didn't see it. (was FBing a pal about how mean the mum was being to the little girl!) But everyone looked horrified and the teacher sent people to see what was going on as the parents had taken her out of the pool to the change rooms. I wonder if they will be reported. I feel really sorry for the girl. She was just scared but had improved so much since last week.

frikonastick Fri 17-May-13 04:11:27

sad that's really awful penguins. I hate seeing adults being mean to kids, just awful. And if that's how she feels comfortable behaving in public just imagine what she's like at home sad sad sad

vvviola Fri 17-May-13 04:33:24

Oh, that sounds awful penguin. Poor thing.

DH has been making best of situation for my birthday - there has been a cake made, I got lovely presents (ipad mini & rice cooker... I now know the reason for all the overtime this month!), and we had lunch out (slightly chaotic with DD2, but nice all the same).

And then I got an email to say I'm not even being interviewed for the job I applied forconfused I really thought I was in with a chance, so I'm pretty gutted not to even get called for interview confused

Fish & chips for dinner tonight as I try to avoid cooking on my birthday wink

giantpenguinmonster Fri 17-May-13 05:10:14

I think the most distressing thing about this morning was the context. I think we can all relate to losing our tempers with our kids- although I've never hit DD and it's much rarer than I expected it to be. But this little girl was just scared and doing her best. I just can't imagine losing my temper with a 3 year old for being afraid. The dad was Chinese and the mum may have been Filipino or Malaysian so we didn't understand what they were saying to her. Poor little thing.

Glad the birthday is going well and sorry to hear about the interview Vvv. Some jobs just get stupid numbers of applicants and often have internal candidates. I've often rung up to ask for some feedback on my application even if I didn't get interviewed- it can be very illuminating. But I always wait a few days so I can handle it better.

justaboutalittlefrazzled Fri 17-May-13 05:20:24

Sounds awful. I've had my moments of frustration re: swimming, but I've never hit a child for it!

Sorry about job vviola.
Happy birthday though.

Sibble Fri 17-May-13 05:33:29

Vvv - sorry about application too. I have a few friends who are applying at the moment, one was told this week they had had 2,000 applicants for a job, she had not been shortlisted as she was overqualified. Another was told by an agency that the company had been inundated with direct applications from seek that they were not going to consider anybody from the agencies seek advert - crazy !!!

justaboutalittlefrazzled Fri 17-May-13 09:03:09

good heavens.

We are trialling SSRIs on DS1. I think we are still married smile

Sibble Sat 18-May-13 04:01:15

in case anybody is interested Debenhams on line have a sale on until Sunday with a pop-up box for an additional 10% off in case anybody needs anything (also free UK shipping). I have just ordered birthday presents for the family in the UK (3 due in next month) and had them sent to my parents to be handed out. Cheaper than buying here and shipping!

meerkate Sat 18-May-13 16:49:08

Hi girls...*vvv*, hope your birthday went well despite the obstacles! Justa - loving your blogs and looking fwd to the next one...how is the SSRI trial going then? Everyone else hello hello, hope everyone is well.

So, DH has had a good initial talk a few days ago with his latest prospective employers in Auckland. I'm feeling slightly cold of feet now, having again got a nasty shock when I looked at house rental prices just now! I love the look of St Helier's penguin (who wouldn't wink) but am I right in thinking we wouldn't get anything decent under $900/week?! That would double our monthly housing expenditure overnight, EEK!

And...does anyone know what St Helier's primary is like, for DS (soon to turn 10) and what the secondary options would be from there for DD (12) - mind you she might be at 'intermediate' school, don't quite a few schools separate off years 7 and 8 as a transitional phase? Or have I got myself confused with Oz confused

Just thinking ahead - might come to nothing. We'll see smile

Plus I know there are lots of other suburbs to look at, just thought I would start there. May have to revise my ambitions downwards though grin

Also slightly horrified at prospect of entertaining kids/sacrificing work for two lots of long summer holidays (North hem/South hem) separated by one measly term of school attendance, if we came out towards the end of the year grin but I guess one has to take the longer view...

justaboutalittlefrazzled Sat 18-May-13 21:19:34

Thus far I think I see some improvement.
He is still complaining of pain but is much more mobile. BUT this could be the result of SSRIs or just one of those good patches he gets now and then. I think in a week we will be able to see whether this is a sustained improvement or just a heart-rendingly deceptive blip.

I don't know anything about schools there meerkate but you are right that a lot of places have the intermediate system.

Meerkate - I had exactly that problem, we did two summer holidays in a row, and I knew NO ONE and had nowhere to go. We spent a lot of time exploring different parks. It worked, actually, the shock of the new made it all more doable. But yours are older of course.

Where is DH thinking of working?

giantpenguinmonster Sun 19-May-13 00:12:26

Great news Justa. Fingers crossed for continued pain relief.

Meerkate - much better to do two summers in a row than two winters! We were rained on for three months on arrival and wondered if we had made a terrible mistake.

Rental prices have eased off a little but I'd say 800-900 would be realistic for a 3/4 bed that is nice inside. Housing has suddenly become a huge issue in central Auckland with prices jumping massively in the last 2 years. When we were looking a million $ would have bought a good forever home and a nice bit of land. Now that looks like a minimum for a family home. Add in the truly shocking exchange rate and it's a lot harder than the days when people cashed in a Uk property and brought a big deposit at $3.8 to the pound.

I'd also say it is sensible to rent where you can afford to buy. Cos you will fall in love with the beach and your kids will get settled in school and it is hard to shift again.

As an aside, I've realised in the last few weeks that we live in the wrong part of town culturally. I think I belong in Grey Lynn. Auckland is very tribal with areas having distinct characters and St Heliers is just not me. I belong with the lentil weavers out west. OH however has fallen in love with the beach and we can never afford to move anyway.

Schools wise, St Heliers has a reasonable to good reputation - lolly is the one to help there. But there are 4/5 primaries in this area and the zones quite small so also have a look at Glendowie, St Thomas' and Kohimarama. There is no intermediate here but Glendowie College (High school) has a good reputation.

WhatSheSaid Sun 19-May-13 00:24:56

Grey Lynn/Ponsonby are my fave bits of Auckland. Pt Chev is good too as it has a beach and a bit of the Grey Lynn feel about it and is only 5 mins away. Not a busy beachfront with loads of cafes,restaurants etc like Mission Bay etc but a nice beach and Coyle Park is great next to it. but predictably prices have risen a lot in Pt Chev too recently.

meerkate as everyone says, prices have gone crazy in Aucks in the last few years, especially the inner suburbs. If we know where work will be we may be able to advise on alternate suburbs. Bucklands Beach/Howick are a bit further out east but are near the sea and Macleans College (high school) is meant to be great, one of the best in Auckland.

Sibble Sun 19-May-13 00:49:41

I agree hours of work and location are huge deciding factors. Luckily I can work from home alot as they have gone literally mad with roadworks lately. It took me 1.5 hours to get to work last week and another hour to get home. Can do the trip in 40 mins usually. Worked from home for the rest of the week!

DH could only work on the North Shore by leaving at 5.30 and by 4pm to get home otherwise it was a nightmare.

When we moved here 10-11 years ago Auckland traffic was much less! If you have flexible hours - great, if not I would live within acceptable traveling distance, no point having the beach on your doorstep if you never get to see it.

AngryBeaver Sun 19-May-13 02:44:49

www.trademe.co.nz/property/residential-property-for-sale/auction-495727543.htm

For some reason my iPad has decided to not let me post. I see if this works

AngryBeaver Sun 19-May-13 02:46:14

Hmm, that's weird, wrote large post earlier and it disappeared.
We might buy this house!
Justa very glad meds seem to be working, whoop whoop!

frikonastick Sun 19-May-13 02:49:25

Oh yes ladies, please keep speaking to meerkate and I of Auckland, because if DH doesn't get a job here in the next 2 months, we will be joining you all in Auckland!

Good luck with the meds justa, crossing fingers for you

DH and I spent a really fun half hour building DD a fort out of our left over packing boxes, it's quite impressive! I managed to fit in it even grin

frikonastick Sun 19-May-13 02:52:19

Oh AB, that looks very cool!

AngryBeaver Sun 19-May-13 05:51:03

Yes! Both come and live on waiheke with me! grin

AngryBeaver Sun 19-May-13 06:00:03

It is very nice. Few issues.
BUSH (I'm sooo infantile, I still struggle not to smirk when someone says bush!)blush
Anyway, lots of bush (hehehe...sorry last time!) it's on a big section but no useable Arden as is.
We would need to apply to council to have it cleared. They are quite precious about such things here (understandably) especially if its native.
Also, the kids would all be at the top level and we would be on the third.
This makes me anxious.
The kitchen is tiny and needs updating.
There is no garage.
BUT, it has such great potential, we could solve kitchen and garage issues over time..and probably the garden issue.
It's so warm (insulated!) and the best of all...it has STAIRS!!the kids were in their element bumping down on their little botties!
I DO like a stair!
Anyway, dh really wants it and he will talk to the bank.

In other news, I'm having investigations due to apparent onset of infertility! Dr is very lovely and patient and caring.
We are loving waiheke, it's just a fantastic place to live.
Have made some great friends, one I feel I've known forever!
And the older kids are loving school.
Great move for us smile
...and we might get a German Shepard pup...we might not!
The end smile

AngryBeaver Sun 19-May-13 06:01:48

Silly me, we would be on bottom level.
And must have missed the big reveal, who is giant penguin?? Been meaning to ask for ages! Is it xminerva? Littlest?!

WhatSheSaid Sun 19-May-13 06:15:11

AB house looks good, more sq metres of house than some on Waiheke - there seems to be lots that are smallish (old baches, I suppose). Would you go in under asking price? There isn't quite the same rush on property on the island is there? So there might be a deal to be done, as Phil and Kirsty say smile

We're on a different floor to our kids and we still hear them as soon as they shout...

Sorry to hear about the infertility investigations - its good you can get referred for that though. When I was taking ages to get pg with dd2 my (lovely) dr told me I wasn't eligible for any publically-funded investigations as I already had a dc so wasn't infertile!

Oh and lots of houses on Waiheke have bushy (snigger) sections don't they, it's that kind of place...Titirangi is very similar.

WhatSheSaid Sun 19-May-13 06:17:20

Oh, and have you looked up the CV of that house?

AngryBeaver Sun 19-May-13 06:55:50

Had lovely doc never heard of secondary infertility?!
Something definitely amiss after last mc, so as well as tests she referred me to recurrent mc unit.
At least we're doing something now.
Have been in denial for a while hmm

Cv is 430, we'll go in at 480, which will be turned down.
Probably.

WhatSheSaid Sun 19-May-13 07:25:12

Yes I think she had heard of secondary infertility, her specialty is gynecological issues! But she said it wasn't publically funded...maybe a different DHB to you, that could be the reason.

meerkate Sun 19-May-13 08:23:24

AB - HOUSE ENVY HAS STRUCK - it's beautiful!! Plus, couldn't help noticing the completely reasonable PRICE - clearly another bonus of having moved to your island paradise. Am so glad you're so happy there. And have found a lovely, understanding doc too - good luck with everything smile

justa that's great re SSRI news - I agree it's too early to conclude anything much, but the early signs do sound positive, hurray!

littlest, oops, penguin, and everyone else thanks for all the helpful house and 'burb-related info. Forgot to say, didn't I, re job location - would be Middlemore. I would be looking at a job in a hospice beginning with a T(!) ... Totara (just googled it). So you're right, that's crucial info re settling on a suburb, innit. I am a lentil-eater too penguin ha ha - will check that place out...a colleague of R's lives in Pt Chev and I have looked at it before - looks beautiful...

Auckland house prices continue to horrify me. We have to think really seriously about this. We live in a lovely, light, modern, well-insulated, centrally-located house here, from where we can walk to school easily and it takes us both ten mins to get to work - DH on foot and me in the car. The garden is beautiful & the mortgage low. So it would be a big decision to live somewhere where prices are absurd and we would have to downgrade our housing 'quality of life' in a big way!

Back soon - breakfast time here smile xxx

WhatSheSaid Sun 19-May-13 08:40:24

Hmm, it's a tricky one, meerkate, your current set up sounds pretty good.

Tbh Middlemore is in the middle of some fairly uninspiring suburbs. And some that I would definitely not choose to live in. There are nicer places within a 10-15 min drive though. If working hours are going to be shifts (and you can therefore avoid the worst traffic times) that would open up the field a lot more.

Sibble Sun 19-May-13 08:52:56

Totara Hospice is about 10 mins from us. We have 3.5 acres, are close to the motorway and 20 mins from the beach. Check out Clevedon/Whitford/Brookby/Ardmore as well as Howick and surrounds for easy access to there and Middlemore unless you want to live centrally of course. We love it out here.

meerkate Sun 19-May-13 08:57:52

Thanks girls - wws I don't think either of us will be working shifts as such, though there would be a lot of oncall for DH at weekends so traffic will definitely be an issue sadly, sibble maybe that's what we should do - think laterally and live further out - as long as schools were good and beaches near I could do that I am sure - it's not like we're big city types at all, after all, we live in town of 75000 right now pretty happily smile I'll check out those areas, thanks so much

Sibble Sun 19-May-13 08:58:09

how about this one wink

http://www.realestate.co.nz/1938036

Sibble Sun 19-May-13 09:01:57

perhaps a bit more realistic!

http://www.realestate.co.nz/1787878

BBQWidow Sun 19-May-13 09:16:46

Only around 20 minutes from me to the Hospice, and I'm at the beach. Took me 45 minutes to commute door to door for Middlemore though.

AngryBeaver Sun 19-May-13 10:06:27

Cheap as chaps, here meerkate!!come, come!

AngryBeaver Sun 19-May-13 16:33:39

Can't open that link on the iPad sibble! I'll have to get the pc out and have a look! Is it st heliers or waiheke?
There are some corkers here!

Sibble Sun 19-May-13 19:35:09

It's Clevedon and a bargain at 9.5 mill grin

justaboutalittlefrazzled Sun 19-May-13 20:23:32

Ha ha. Meerkate, No idea what to advise re: property as we are at the other end of Auckland to Middlemore. But very exciting that you are thinking of doing this. I do get the "what the..." with money, we went from high benefits (cos of the boys) and consequent disposable income to microscopic benefits and double-the-price monthly mortgage. It has been quite a gap.

What I would say though is that for us the lifestyle benefits are more than worth it. We worked out recently that due to property price rises in Auckland this year, if we sold our house and moved back to England we could pay off the rest of our mortgage there in one fell swoop and live mortgage-free.

Choosing not to do that does suggest that we are very happy here.

AngryBeaver Mon 20-May-13 00:47:12
frikonastick Mon 20-May-13 01:01:38

shock

Sibble Mon 20-May-13 04:35:07

Only if they leave the wine seller full otherwise a tad overpriced grin.

This one's been on the market a while they might be open to negotiation, also no pictures of the inside - might be a do-up!

meerkate Mon 20-May-13 10:31:50

OMG!!! I could easily spend half my life glued to property porn, soooo addictive...I didn't know Versailles-esque places like that last one even existed in NZ, AB! I was briefly tempted by your second offering sibble - amazing SPACE inside that house, and so light and bright - but it's too rural for me - we just escaped the countryside after four bucolic but driving-intensive years, and I am loving being a walk away from the supermarket, newsagent's, school etc! So while I don't need a big city, a suburb with amenities and a village feel is what I'd be after, near da beach. Fussy, I know smile

justa - that is a very convincing illustration indeed of how much you love your new home smile that's really positive. I need to come over and visit, really smile I feel slightly hampered by only ever having driven through Auckland on the way to the airport before!

I'd be really tempted to join you on your lovely island AB if it wasn't for the impossible commute for DH (who, keep in mind, currently strolls down the hill and is at work within ten minutes!)

Back soon girls. It's been beautiful over here this weekend, May is such a gorgeous month...but grey and dull again today, sigh! Missing DS, who has gone to Paris with the school for five whole days - climbed onto the coach without a backward glance, always a good sign smile

Sibble Mon 20-May-13 20:19:32

BBQ where are you - I am intrigued. Of course you don't have to tell me. I am guessing Beachlands or Maraetai but could be completely wrong!

frikonastick Mon 20-May-13 21:39:06

DH has 3 interviews. Two on Wednesday and one on Thursday. Here's crossing all fingers and toes he gets one of them!

justaboutalittlefrazzled Tue 21-May-13 00:57:40

Excellent frik.

Sibble Tue 21-May-13 01:46:59

yes, good luck for dh

giantpenguinmonster Tue 21-May-13 01:57:46

Good luck Frik- are they for jobs in your area or up in smelly Auckland?

frikonastick Tue 21-May-13 03:26:17

Two are for here, one is for Hamilton, and the Hamilton one they have an office here so hopefully DH would only have to commute a couple of days a week, but it's all supposition at this stage!

Thanks for the good wishes ladies :-)

giantpenguinmonster Tue 21-May-13 06:00:07

Hope you are all okay in the storm ladies. We had a new drain installed today to try and solve our garage flooding issue. Hhm, it has cut down the volume of water but we need to tackle the front next - which is going to cost about 3k! Sigh. And it is also coming in a hole at the back and through crack in the floor.

Meerkate - like Justabout we would be much better off in the UK. But we try to think of our huge mortgage as an investment.

There was a comparison of High school results in the Herald today but I haven't managed to find it online. Anyone?

WhatSheSaid Tue 21-May-13 07:19:45

No huge storm here, about two mins of heavy rain. Though I have just seen photos on the Herald website about "waterspouts" (tornadoes over water, apparently) over the Manukau and the photo almost looks like it was taken from our house so may have been somewhere quite close.

Good luck with the interviews mrfrik

I haven't seen schools thing in the Herald but there is some part of the Ministry of Education website where you can compare high school results. And Metro does a big school results table thing about once a year. They weight it according to decile though.

Meerkate if your DH will be working at Middlemore I would recommend not living in Eastern suburbs, I think the commute would be such a pain.

Half Moon Bay/Bucklands Beach is a good area, you have the beach just there and I visited both schools last year and was blown away, particularly by Pigeon Mountain School. Both schools finish at Y6 and feed into Buckland Beach Intermediate. MacLeans College is an excellent state secondary school.

You mentioned a village feel...Howick is a lovely village and a great place to live too.

meerkate Tue 21-May-13 21:19:49

frik ooh, well done your DH and the very best of luck! Let us know immediately how he got on smile
fanjo - immediately googled both Half Moon Bay and Howick - thanks a lot, look like great areas and nearer M/more, yes indeed - will definitely keep those in mind smile am totally abandoning Eastern 'Burbs plan if the commute is going to be a drag, that's a really big factor for us.
waterspouts? yikes...

justaboutalittlefrazzled Tue 21-May-13 22:08:45

Oh yes I saw that about waterspouts. Eek.

giantpenguinmonster Tue 21-May-13 23:03:20

OH used to commute to near middlemore and it wasn't too bad. Most of the traffic is going the other way. But agree Howick is a good possibility too. You get more house for your money.

justaboutalittlefrazzled Wed 22-May-13 00:33:57

I don't think the North Shore would be ideal for Middlemore! (end of Justa's property knowledge of locations)

AngryBeaver Wed 22-May-13 00:51:02

Good luck to dh frick!

Yes waterspouts...when dh on boat home!!
Orange lightening.
And rounds of thunder that made everyone leap a mile!

frikonastick Wed 22-May-13 01:07:07

Well, first interview done, and apparently it went really well! Yay! Feel so proud of him grinDH now in car on way to Auckland for interview no2.

Even if nothing comes from either, it's a real boost I think when an interview goes well.

Here's crossing fingers! <still keeping eye on Auckland rentals>

Sibble Wed 22-May-13 04:50:01

Eastern Beach, Bucklands Beach, Mellons Bay all lovely with good schools and close to Howick. We looked there last year before we bought our current place. MacLeans is always in the top schools list (ranking higher than alot of Auckland private schools) and does Cambridge exams. I'm considering applying for ds1 as an out of zoner for next year - Don't' think we will get in but if I don't try we won't know.

That is a huge downside about where we currently are - the high schools are all dreadful so we pay private - manageable with one but shortly we are looking at having two at Intermediate/High School a whole other ball game sad

justaboutalittlefrazzled Wed 22-May-13 05:18:38

Yes that is what put me off South Auckland Sibble, the schools didn't seem encouraging (understatement).

Where is Maraetai? We went there with DS3's kohanga and I thought it was glorious, very rural. I think it's near Omana national park but in the Auckland suburbs?

Sibble Wed 22-May-13 05:49:19

Maraetai is lovely too. We very nearly bought there (house was 1 room too small and no easy capacity to extend). It's our closest beach where we go paddleboarding and very safe for the boys to swim. It's also within acceptable drive to MMH and Totara. Has beach front cafes but local main shopping is at Botany or Howick realistically. Wouldn't bother me but apart from a very good local dairy you are a drive from the main shops. Having said that quite controversially Countdown has just got the go ahead to build at Beachlands (neighbouring)- don't know when it will be complete but will be closer.

AngryBeaver Thu 23-May-13 02:45:19

Have pm'd you sibble

frikonastick Thu 23-May-13 05:56:48

All three interviews went great! DH has call backs for second interview for 2 of them and the other they want him n Auckland and he said no, and they said, well if the other stuff doesn't work out, let us know, so that's positive too. Gosh ladies, it looks like our dream really really really might come true! Cross fingers xxx

WhatSheSaid Thu 23-May-13 08:55:30

Great news frik

giantpenguinmonster Thu 23-May-13 09:29:09

Exciting!

Sibble Thu 23-May-13 20:18:43

Yes, how exciting!

BBQWidow Fri 24-May-13 03:12:11

Countdown will start building in Beachlands around October. It will really change the feel of coming home, but it will give some convenience. You were bang on with your guess of where I am Sibble

Waiting for the chimney sweep to come.

Sibble Fri 24-May-13 03:39:30

oooh I bet we know people in common, in fact our paths may well have crossed! If you are ever at the beach and see a family paddleboarding it may well be us. I am the one falling in the water or trying to restrain ds2 who otherwise would be half way to Waiheke! Ds1 and dh are far more competent! Actually ds1 is full of teenage angst lately so is more likely to be the one sulking on the shore wink

BBQWidow Fri 24-May-13 03:45:07

We probably do. It is a very small world.

Chimney sweep has come and gone. If anyone is looking for a VERY reasonably priced sweep, I'd recommend Mike Johnson ph: 5366394. $50 is what it cost me. He's not left any mess.

AngryBeaver Fri 24-May-13 05:15:58

Excellent news frick.
Sibble I sooo want to paddle board, but I'm scared of falling in!
We are buying two double kayaks soon, can't wait!

In ter news, I ave been very sick for a week.
I thought it would go away but it's got worse hmm
So went to docs, and she thins its most likely Guardia...from the effing water tank!
Coud be Campylobacter, have to wait for results.
Have to take 7 tablets a day, and no alcohol until 2days after I finish the course.
Feeling quite sorry for myself, but at least my jeans will be a lot looser...every cloud!

AngryBeaver Fri 24-May-13 05:17:11

Forgot to mention best bit.
Giardia is sometimes known as...wait for it...Beaver Fever!! How fitting!

justaboutalittlefrazzled Fri 24-May-13 05:18:23

Oh shame, guardia is dire.

We think the SSRIs (citalopram) are helping DS1. He is in much less pain. His behaviour is frigging awful so I have held DH's head under water until he agreed persuaded him that we do need to put him back on the Ritalin too. Here's hoping they don't react/cancel each other out or anything.

BBQWidow Fri 24-May-13 06:07:43

Exciting news Frik!

Sorry to hear about the potential giardia, AB. Friends local to us have had it from their water tank too. What sort of filtration do you have on your tank?

frikonastick Fri 24-May-13 06:59:08

Giardia is a bastard. DH was hospitalised with it once when we were in Africa. Take care of yourself AB xxx

Yay on the SSRIs justa smile here's hoping the Ritalin works too. Am sure DS is a much happier kid either way.

vvviola Fri 24-May-13 08:24:03

Oh yuk AB sad that doesn't sound pleasant at all. Hope you are on the mend soon.

Hurray for the SSRIs justa! And fingers crossed for a good combination with the Ritalin (is there a known potential issue? Or just a case of 'who knows'?)

We appear to be toilet training. Not my idea. Madam raided the cupboard took out potty and has been obsessed ever since - even refused to get off it this evening! We've had now 4 wees & 1 poo in the space of 4 days. I'm totally unprepared so am just kind of popping her on every now and then or if she asks. This wasn't on my list of things to do over winter!!! blush

justaboutalittlefrazzled Fri 24-May-13 08:27:11

No. There is no evidence that you can't use both together and half the juvenile population of the US is on both, with far less reason than we have. There's no medical evidence at all that combining them is a problem and the doctor told me to keep DS1 on Ritalin because citalopram can make children hyper, which it duly has. DH of course knew better and insisted we take him off it. Cue dire behaviour and guilty child who has been hitting himself in the head tonight with guilt over his behaviour. Let's just hope that tomorrow is easier.

justaboutalittlefrazzled Fri 24-May-13 08:46:25

OOh - to pottytraining. Excellent. That's ideal, she can just have fun for a few months and then come September you can go cold turkey. Did I tell you that DS2 is now out of nappies part-time? Very exciting. nearly six years old about bloody time too

frikonastick Fri 24-May-13 11:50:23

DD who is 4.5 still has night nappies. Is that bad? She took ages to potty train too, so well done vvvv DD!

4x4 Fri 24-May-13 15:50:40

Anyone live on Waiheke ?
What is it like to live on with young children? We have seen a beautiful house .

WhatSheSaid Fri 24-May-13 20:21:55

AngryBeaver is the woman to talk to about Waiheke. She seems to be enjoying it apart from the giardia Get well soon AB. Any developments on that house you were looking at buying?

frik. Some dcs are out of night nappies early but up to 6 or even 7 is within the usual range. There's a hormone they start producing which enables them to go longer without a wee at night. Until they start producing that they can't really be 'trained' to be dry at night.

Good news on the meds justabout

And good news on the potty training vvv

Sibble Fri 24-May-13 21:29:50

ds1 was out of night nappies by age 2.5 (he was just dry) ds2 was nearly 7. Didn't do anything different with either of them, didn't potty train either of them just waited until they were dry hmm. But that's my lazy parenting method technique all round. Both boys stuttered - ds1 grew out of it, ds2 is 8, nearly 9 and it's quite pronounced at the moment - I'll wait and see if it dies down again otherwise I'll start the speech exercises we were given years ago.

And giardia - horrible I had it years ago - not nice.

AngryBeaver Sat 25-May-13 00:52:10

Great news justa, things are going well for you guys at the moment smile
Frick, ds 1 was 5 at the end of Jan and is still in pull ups at night.
Dh is not pleased about this.

He as been dry for a few night and we think we've cracked it, but then he will just wee...and sleep in it!

Tanks wws.
The Giardia has been deeply unpleasant, still feel pretty weak, but the "other" symptoms have gone away thank goodness.
Lost a few pounds though, always a bonus.

Dh is dragging me out of bed to go and see the house again in about an hour.
Not actually sure I'm up to it...
And ave lst of reservations about it.
It kept me awake the other night!

4x4
We've been living on Waiheke for about 8 weeks. Really enjoying it so far.
The shopping might be an issue for some, as in, erm, there aren't any!
Well there are a few, but they are either touristy or reeeeally expensive!
It's more expensive to live here, in general.
And can be quite restrictive and limiting.
The expense I mean.
It's really expensive to get the car off. You have to factor that in if you want to go on a day trip for example.
Also, anything medical can be problematic.
I had to take my 2yr old to starship recently.
That was a drive to the ferry, park and walk to ferry, get ferry, get bus to starship (in bouncing rain) then he was supposed to have an op.
He didnt ave it in te end.
But if he had, would have had to do that journey in reverse with a groggy, possibly distressed child!

Also, it's likely that I will ave to have surgery this next month.
Same applies. I'm not looking onward to the ferry back.
If its rough, I will be in agony!

Anyway, sorry that's all the negatives!!

The positives are, it's quiet, great community (mostly) low crime rate, micro climate,beautiful scenery, of course, the vineyards!
We really love it in general.

But some things are starting to crop up, that are problematic.

I think you'd have to weigh it all up carefully.

Lots of people move off the island after a year or two apparantly.

It's definitely not for everyone.

Oh, and the population more than triples in the warmer months!!

If you want anymore information, feel free to ask, I can give you specifics smile

AngryBeaver Sat 25-May-13 00:53:33

God that went back to negative again...we love it, honest!!

WhatSheSaid Sat 25-May-13 01:13:54

AB tell your dh that my friend's ds was still in night nappies at 6.5. She took him to the dr who said "Bring him back when he's 7, he's within the normal range til then" (or it may even have been 8, not sure)

justaboutalittlefrazzled Sat 25-May-13 01:32:05

Yes you tell your DH to get over himself and use pullups if you want to. I would be more worried about the psychological effects on a child who is regularly bedwetting than the effects of keeping him in night-time pullups like half his class TBH. As well as the effects on your laundry workload!

<bossy and interfering>

Ritalin started again today. I think I have my lovely boy back. He is really very different. Thank GOD.

4x4 Sat 25-May-13 05:55:20

Thanks Angry Beaver . I have four children (3,3,4,5 )and think school might be the deal breaker . Now 3 are in
nursery & one in Reception. I am trying to get my head round the school year and starting ages
in NZ .

justaboutalittlefrazzled Sat 25-May-13 07:32:17

OK well children start school on their fifth birthday, not at the beginning of the school year insanely . School year runs as you would expect Jan to Dec less insanely.

WhatSheSaid Sat 25-May-13 07:34:30

<faints at the thought of having four children in three years>

<not very helpful>

Children generally start school on their fifth birthday in NZ though I think legally they don't have to start till they're six. There's no nursery year attached to primary schools but there are kindys which are usually very cheap (ours is 50 cents an hour, 20 hours a week).

lollystix Sat 25-May-13 11:14:40

4x4 I can tell you child are is cheaper in NZ for multiples and life is easy in that you can actually park near shops etc....and people have driveways and garages so you can actually park near your own house! I've been here over a year now and I still find it such a novelty

I'm going to Australia tomorrow....with work (one night away for the kids last month and I was in bits so lord knows how I will cope) but I get to sit on a plane for 3 whole hours with no one climbing on me and not a raisin in sight! And then three whole nights on my own in a bed that doesn't have a wonky Argos mattress bought 15 years ago for £99 and no one will be climbing on me at 5.30am

frikonastick Sat 25-May-13 11:43:53

Enjoy the trip lolly, I'm afraid I can't offer advice on missing the kids, I rather like a forced break grin

vvviola Sat 25-May-13 13:37:16

Oh gosh lolly, 3 hours of peace on a plane? Sounds like heaven!

As for the school stuff. As justa said they insanely start kids on their 5th birthday (or the Monday after for DD's school)... but I think it works really well. Gentle intro for the child into a class where most of the others are well settled. Avoids the perhaps uniquely Irish faffing about sending them at 4 or 5, and the accompanying smugness that goes with each decision.

I can't get my head around the school year being the calendar year though... but then I still haven't got the seasons & months straight in my head yet either blush

vvviola Sun 26-May-13 07:48:51

Ok, totally random question. Do anyone know of anywhere that does those really tiny tins of corn? Like the size of the small tuna tins? We waste so much corn in this house because we never use a full tin (even the "small" tins are too big).

It's the little things you miss really, isn't it wink

WhatSheSaid Sun 26-May-13 09:06:09

I don't know about tiny tins of corn...I just buy the frozen stuff and use as much or as little as we need?

I went to a friend's baby shower today with dh staying at home with the dcs. He cheerily waved me off saying all would be fine. An hour later he phones me because dd2 has eaten part of an arum lily and he's had to phone the Poisons phone line to see if we need to rush her to hospital.

Luckily it's not too poisonous though it made her mouth burn a lot and she cried a fair bit. As dd1 said "when dd2 ate the plant we all had to put our hands over our ears!"

frikonastick Sun 26-May-13 11:01:20

shock whatshesaid!!! Was your DH phoning you in a 'funny story.......' kind of way, or a 'oh my god come home NOW' kind of way?

Yes to frozen sweet corn too, the tins are huge.

justaboutalittlefrazzled Sun 26-May-13 11:24:36

(realises she has never thought about tins of sweetcorn size, but then we buy the corn on the cob at this time of year)

WSS - I am impressed with your sangfroid. Glad it ended well.

I am fed up off the small tuna tins.

vvviola Sun 26-May-13 12:15:15

Hmm, frozen sweet corn. Could require retraining of DH as he's the main consumer for lunches etc. Shall have to investigate further.

WSS shock glad to hear everything worked out.

Went to the gluten free & allergy show today. I ascertained that in a year they have not yet managed to get fake cheese to be edible. Coconut milk icecream on the other hand... Yum grin

WhatSheSaid Sun 26-May-13 19:03:40

He was phoning me in a " well she's not poisoned and you don't need to come home but she's a bit grizzly" sort of way. I didnt immediately leave but I left a bit earlier than I would have done.

She was fine when I got back, she had lips like Mick Jagger though.

Sibble Sun 26-May-13 19:43:07

wss ds2 ate arum lilies as well. Not good! And a random comment we lost 2 goats to arum lillies. You would have thought that they would have learned not to eat them after getting sick at least 3 times (think mega vet bills). Goats are dumb whereas ds2 never ate them again. This is the downside of having animals - ds2 went through a stage of eating outside whereas ds1 decided he was a cow and started to poo outside confused

justaboutalittlefrazzled Sun 26-May-13 20:32:13

god I wish DS2 would start pooing outside! Maybe we need to get some cattle.

Coconut milk icecream sounds gorgeous.

frikonastick Sun 26-May-13 22:03:30

I love you guys

Sweet corn to poisoning to pooping in the garden

grin

vvviola Sun 26-May-13 22:23:28

Frik gringrin it's fab isn't it!

Justa unfortunately the kiwi DIY bug appears to have struck me. Instead of buying up every tub of icecream I thought "I'm sure I can figure out a way to make that myself". blush There's no hope for me, is there?

justaboutalittlefrazzled Sun 26-May-13 22:30:33

Ha ha. But you are right, ice-cream is pretty easy. If you figure it out you will have to shoot me the recipe pretty please

4x4 Mon 27-May-13 19:00:32

Is it just me or do NZ properties ever have floorplans ?
All the sites I have been on have none on the houses I clck on.
BTW - check out this for property porn
www.realestate.co.nz/2030767

Sibble Mon 27-May-13 19:05:38

New builds might have plans but not usually. Same as no price, all a cunning plan to get you there to find it's half the size you thought it was and twice the price grin

BBQWidow Tue 28-May-13 07:03:09

That house is ridiculous! Imagine a floor print of 1400 square metres...that's over quarter of an acre!

justaboutalittlefrazzled Tue 28-May-13 09:56:50

It's a nice idea until you think of the heating bill.

Now I have won the Ritalin and the SSRI arguments with DH, I have picked another battle, sigh. I want to homeschool both boys for six months. He's not said no, which is a good start - but only because I said "I am going to tell you this and we are not going to discuss it now and wait a few days."

frikonastick Tue 28-May-13 10:40:42

Justa, just ask him what's the worst thing that can happen? If it doesn't work out for you as a family, they can just go back to school. There are no absolutes. And there is no way to tell unless you try it, it's a low risk endeavour. Go for it!

justaboutalittlefrazzled Tue 28-May-13 11:17:04

Thank you, that is exactly what I think. Six months is long enough to have fun and work out what we want to do longterm but it leaves the door open to return to school if they or I want to.

giantpenguinmonster Tue 28-May-13 11:30:36

Could you try homeschooling a couple of days a week first justa to see how it goes? Would the school be supportive?

It's out really snowy in Auckland this week ladies? We're in Sydney which is very rainy. It feels like a very big city. Which is nice to boost but I like my big little city.

giantpenguinmonster Tue 28-May-13 11:31:23

Visit....

4x4 Tue 28-May-13 12:42:44

Oh Is electric very pricey in NZ ?

Sibble Tue 28-May-13 20:15:47

OMG cold enough for everybody - HRV says it's 0 degrees in the loft shock

frikonastick Tue 28-May-13 22:43:51

What the frikken helll!!! It. Is. FREEEEEEEEZZZZZZZIIIINNNNGGGGGG. Just had to walk DD to school as DH is in Auckland with the car and my poor ears are still burning like hellfire.

Everyone cross fingers for DH he is in his interview call back, if this comes off we can stay in lovely tauranga! Well, I mean, it's not so lovely right this minute. What with it being FREEEZING.

I am just grumpy because I have a terribly sore throat and have been fighting off being sick and there is a ton of bloody laundry to do.

Lol! I really am grumpy aren't I grin

justaboutalittlefrazzled Wed 29-May-13 01:03:58

Is freezing here too. Inside relatively warm - thank god for insulation again - and thank god for heatpump. And electric blankets. (worships at the altar of home heating)

frikonastick Wed 29-May-13 02:43:02

DH got the job!!!!!

Am literally jumping up and down with happiness!!!

Oh my gosh. I can't believe it. I mean, we hoped and we took the risk and everything but OH MY GOSH!!!!!!!

We don't have to move again!!!

And DD can stay in her school!!!

We did it. We really really did it. After 4 years of planning, it's all coming true.

So happy

Sibble Wed 29-May-13 04:27:16

Congrats frik to you all. How very exciting!

justaboutalittlefrazzled Wed 29-May-13 04:27:43

Oh wow, so pleased for you frik

giantpenguinmonster Wed 29-May-13 05:17:16

Great news frik. Now you can start house shopping. :-)

BBQWidow Wed 29-May-13 08:15:06

Congrats Frik! That's stunning news for your family.

vvviola Wed 29-May-13 09:32:01

Wonderful news Frik! So pleased it's all working out.

(Not going to bring the mood of the thread down, so I may be back to ramble on this another time - there's some dreadful news coming from home at the moment regarding creches, that I'm trying very hard not to listen to)

Anyway, to return to the more important thing.... woo hoo, hurray for Mr Frik smile Hope you've uncorked a bottle of wine by now frik!

meerkate Wed 29-May-13 14:17:09

frik that is truly brilliant news - hurray! WELL DONE to mr frik indeed. So great to know that you are staying put and can put down roots and really get into Tauranga life. Yay smile

Lovely to catch up with your news, ladies - been busily catching up with family and friends, it being half-term over here. STILL no news re the Auckland job!! There seems a massive lack of urgency on their side. We have been waiting to talk to the unit's boss for about a month now, maybe even more. He is apparently back at the end of this week.

Still pursuing options in W Australia but that isn't going to happen any time soon, I don't think. So we must be patient some more smile

justa tell me about your home-schooling plans - do you think it will be better for you and your family to just KNOW you're home-schooling, full stop, and not have the uncertainty every day of whether your boy(s) are going to school or not? I have the utmost admiration for anyone considering home schooling, packing my kids off to school with glee every day as I do wink and it's clear from everything that we know of you from this thread and from your amazing blog that if anyone can make a good, nay, excellent fist of H-S'ing it's you. Keep us posted re DH's reaction (which sounds akin to what I imagine my DH's initial reaction would be, were I to put this to him. But I would hope that he would listen to my reasons, as your DH will undoubtedly listen to yours).

Off to play badminton with the kids...half-term continues...already been jogging (!!! Let's draw a veil over that mental image, shall we?) with DS, gone swimming, walked to town and back with them, played ping pong endlessly inbetween all the above, and it's only flippin' half two in the afternoon...

XXX

justaboutalittlefrazzled Wed 29-May-13 15:22:28

Well we seem to have agreed that it is a good idea. Phew. There wasn't really any discussion, I just wrote a long email giving my reasons and then tonight mentioned that a friend had offered to have the boys one morning a week. DH said "You'd better take her up on the offer then." When pressed further he said he didn't think homeschooling for six months was actively dangerous smile I'll take what support I can get.

Yes meerkate, basically I think that the uncertainty is all so difficult for DS1. DS2 really liked the days he's spent at home with us and stood at the door this morning saying forlornly "I like homeschooling" so I felt I was pushing at an open door there.

frikonastick Wed 29-May-13 21:12:40

Thanks so much everyone, very happy household here smile when DH got home (after driving all the way to Auckland for interview to get there and be told oops sorry interview is in Hamilton!!!! Mad dash to Hamilton and then back to tauranga) DD dashed to the door and said, daddy I'm so PROUD of you! Cue delighted parents with damp eyes, until she followed it up with, and now you buy me presents again!! Lol!! She clearly noticed the drop in treats while we were unemployed! Little monkey.

Then somewhat anti climatically I came down with a passed on from kindly cold a couple of days ago and I think with the sheer relief of DH getting the job I rewarded myself with a massive migraine, so ended up going to bed at 5pm and not surfacing until now. Poor DH, not much of a celebration! And of course I am stuffier than a stuffed thing this morning, el yucko to colds! Ooohhh, my ear just popped, that's much better.

Vvvv, you go right ahead!

Justa, glad DH is more on board :-)

Meerkate, see! There is hope! DH and I spent 4 years planning and waiting etc etc, so hang in there. Actually, DH is just reminding me that it's really been 9 years of planning and saving, just 4 years of actually applying and going through the visa application part. And in that time we moved country 4 times in order to keep earning enough that we could make our NZ dream come true. Reading that back sounds mad!

I think I'm a bit giddy grin

justaboutalittlefrazzled Wed 29-May-13 22:42:18

My goodness frik I had absolutely no idea that you had been through all that. I thought you had just thought "ooh, we've done a few countries, where next? Why not try NZ?"
So this is a really big dream coming true, how nice.

frikonastick Thu 30-May-13 00:01:40

Lol, no! It's been quite the journey. Neither of us have a home country (both sets of parents were expats too) and we don't share common passports so neither of us can live in our spouses native country without visas etc etc, and DD was born in Dubai, so we really needed to have a nationality. We picked NZ because we could get in (first and foremost!) first language is English, we could buy property as non natives, crime low, jobs available and that we could after a period of time, be eligible for passports. With those criteria, there were actually only about 4 places in the world to choose from really, and we liked NZ over the others best.

justaboutalittlefrazzled Thu 30-May-13 00:30:55

Wow.

(mind boggles)

And I thought I had identity issues, being the daughter of two immigrants!

Congratulations to la famile Fric. Wonderful news to start a looooong weekend on!

lollystix Thu 30-May-13 12:15:38

Huge congrats Frik. grin

Sibble Fri 31-May-13 02:55:01

What's everybody up to for the long weekend - we're heading to the beach after boys sport Saturday where I will go for long walks and read but mostly prepare for my exam on Tuesday and conference talk next Saturday. Will be glad when the next 10 days are over then can kick back and relax properly. Have fun everybody.

AngryBeaver Fri 31-May-13 06:35:20

Whoop whoop! Well done mr frick...fabulous news!!
I too, had no idea that you'd been through all that to get here!
Holy shit sticks!
Really pleased you can settle now, it's a lovely feeling int it?!

My two cents worth justa.
I think the, Am I, am I not, going to school today ? scenario, must be quite unsettling for the boys.
And as they seem to like homeschooling, and you seem to be rather a good teacher...why the hell not! grin

Meerkate, phew you've made me quite exhausted just reading that!
I must have a curry and a large glass of vino to garner my energy again!

I'm supposed to be doing a 10k run tomo as part of training for my July race, but after the Giardia, I'm still recovering physically.
I haven't run for quite a while and think 10k straight off, would be asking for troube!

Sibble, our long weekend will consist if house viewings, meal with friends, fishing and the "cinema" on waiheke...can't wait to experience that!!

Happy Friday everyone wine wink

vvviola Fri 31-May-13 07:07:34

It's a long weekend, therefore DD2 must be sick hmm

Got sick a couple of times last night and scuppered plans (again!) for a one on one day with DD1. Doesn't seem to be a lasting thing though.

MIL arrives tomorrow stupidly early in the morning for the weekend. We (DD1 & I are meant to be going to Disney on Ice with her and some of the in laws).

No other plans but DH did say he'd asked MIL if she might watch the girls for an hour or so on Sunday to let us go out for brunch. Would be lovely but not holding my breath wink

AngryBeaver Fri 31-May-13 08:29:43

Holds hands with vvv, the two boys have 40 deg temp hmm

frikonastick Fri 31-May-13 08:59:42

I'm afraid I'm the one with the 40degree temp, flu symptoms for the last 2 days and vomiting although the vomiting has only just started now. And we have a birthday dinner party tomorrow night, then on Monday a kiddies birthday party in the morning then on to Auckland to take DD to Disney on ice. Yay for the long weekend <weak voice>

justaboutalittlefrazzled Fri 31-May-13 12:04:17

oooh you poor poorly people

AngryBeaver Fri 31-May-13 23:19:16

Aw, get well frick x

frikonastick Sat 01-Jun-13 04:23:46

Thanks, hope your and vvvv childrs are feeling better AB xxx

justaboutalittlefrazzled Sat 01-Jun-13 04:56:14

Glorious day here. DS1 painfree. Children utterly besotted with new trampoline and I am hardly seeing them for dust.
Nice lunch out too. Valentines ain't fancy but it does the trick. We'd promised the boys that we'd take them out to Valentines when DH got back from Canada.

BBQWidow Sat 01-Jun-13 06:52:33

Hope all the poorlies get better soon. Not a nice way to spend a long weekend.

We've got a whole load of not a lot planned for this weekend, and I'm really happy with that.

vvviola Sun 02-Jun-13 06:17:46

Hope everyone is having a nice long weekend. Weather is lovely too isn't it?

Disney on Ice was bearable (although I felt very sorry for the poor skaters when they did fantastic lifts etc as most of the kids just didn't appreciate it)

I have now reached limits of patience for MIL visit (and DH's reaction to MIL visit - and her reaction to him)

She will be leaving v early tomorrow. (By all accounts setting her alarm for 5:30 so she can leave before we get up --don't get me started on that--)

frikonastick Sun 02-Jun-13 09:07:38

Vvv, how long was the show? How much earlier did you get there before the show? We are taking DD tomorrow and im just trying to plan a little because I am still really ill.

frikonastick Sun 02-Jun-13 09:10:49

Sorry, I pressed post instead of return! Was going to say, I feel for you with the in laws.......

vvviola Sun 02-Jun-13 09:35:31

Frik - we got there about 2. DH had dropped us down near the ferry terminal and we walked up. There was just enough time for the girls to queue for a piece of Disney marketing I'm not cynical me and for us to get to our seats. There are enough entrances that there was no real queue to get in, although the queues for the stuff were pretty long (although, I went up near the bar area and there was a little spot where you could get cold drinks, bags of sweets & coffee etc with no queue)

It finished at 4:20 (on the button, no encore, no real delay with bowing etc).

It was actually quite ok, considering grin.

frikonastick Sun 02-Jun-13 10:58:52

Thanks :-) DD is beside herself with excitement at the princesses. Although, her main thing seems to be that she thinks she will be able to 'cuddle them' am not sure how to shoot that one down......

giantpenguinmonster Mon 03-Jun-13 11:12:29

Hope you all had a relaxing weekend.

We had a fab but exhausting trip to Sydney. DD loved seeing her cousins and we did a tour of animal based attractions. Took our Kelly Tarlton's pass so DD was free and I was half price to the Wildlife place and aquarium.

Sydney is lovely but I was happy to be home. A smaller city suits me just fine.

4 year old jet lag sucks though.

Sibble Tue 04-Jun-13 03:49:34

Weekend spent studying for PMP exam which I passed this morning. I am so relieved and happy. First hurdle of the week over. Next I am presenting in Wellington and the Cardiac Society conference at the end of the week. Time to work on the presentation!

Also poor ds1 has succumbed to the fever, cold etc...that seems to be doing the rounds. Am hoping that nobody else gets it (selfishly especially me until after next weekend!)

justaboutalittlefrazzled Tue 04-Jun-13 03:55:12

well done Sibble!

frikonastick Tue 04-Jun-13 04:53:33

Go sibble! Well done you :-)

frikonastick Wed 05-Jun-13 02:46:08

Ok ladies, I neeeeed your combined wisdom.

The tumble dryer we brought with us is eating our clothes. It's a very very basic one that we had in syria so not massively surprised its not really up to scratch.

Thing is, I have no idea what to get to replace it. Please can you all kindly let me know which ones you use and their pros and cons?

Thanks so much

justaboutalittlefrazzled Wed 05-Jun-13 03:08:50

I don't know ours (too lazy to get up and check, will look later). But folklore tells me that the best machines in NZ are generally Fischer and Paykel. Do they do dryers?

WhatSheSaid Wed 05-Jun-13 03:19:44

We don't have a dryer so I can't advise from personal experience. But our local library has copies of Consumer magazine to look at, they review products to find the best and they may have an issue with tumble dryers in - could be worth a look? I don't think Fisher and Paykel stuff is that great tbh - I saw an article saying that reviews had overall found Miele, Asko and Bosch produced the best quality electrical goods. They are pricier though. We have a Miele vacuum cleaner and it's fricking amazing compared to some of the shite we had before

Sibble Wed 05-Jun-13 03:52:35

Agree F&P overpriced and overrated. When I was buying everything for my new kitchen the man in The Good Guys went round all the F&P goods and told me where off shore they were made - no excuse for the prices they change when they are made in South America, the Philippines and India etc...

We have a Samsung and are happy but it's the first dryer I have every had so have nothing to compare it to.

giantpenguinmonster Wed 05-Jun-13 03:55:31

We had F and P appliances in most of the temporary places we have lived and IMHO they have all been shite.

giantpenguinmonster Wed 05-Jun-13 03:56:49

In addition to being shite, the washing machines play a tune when they finish. And again, at intervals until you attend to them. It is very annoying.

frikonastick Wed 05-Jun-13 04:18:52

Crosses fisher and pykel off list

I was thinking of Bosch or Samsung. DH loving the consumer report thing

vvviola Wed 05-Jun-13 05:02:24

I just went to check ours. It's a Simpson (no, I'd never heard of it either!grin). It's pretty good - I think it was the cheapest one in the shop that had a decent energy rating. It is a bit slow, but that could be because I tend to use it on the lowest setting because I'm afraid of destroying all my clothes! grin

justaboutalittlefrazzled Wed 05-Jun-13 05:04:22

Ours is a Creda. It's ten years old and I am sure has an appalling energy rating. It is good as long as you use it on the high setting. It's reliable and has survived many moves, but I am trying to use it much less this year.

vvviola Wed 05-Jun-13 05:43:59

Oh shit. Has anyone invented a teleporter yet confused

Just read an email from one of my dearest friends. (DD2's godmother, my bridesmaid). She's just been diagnosed with breast cancer. Mastectomy, chemo & radio followed by a breast reconstruction.

There is apparently a pretty good survival chance for the type she has, but still. Shit. confused I'm just too far away for my liking. Almost everywhere else I've lived the credit card would have been out and I would have been able to visit for a weekend.

Oof. Am really thrown by this. She's a year younger than me.

vvviola Wed 05-Jun-13 05:44:49

(Sorry, please excuse the swearing. It's milder than what I was yelling in the car earlier blush)

giantpenguinmonster Wed 05-Jun-13 05:53:51

Vvv- I'm sorry to hear your news. But be aware that this type of cancer has a really good survival rate- up to 90% IIRC. I know a number of women who have had it- several who had it 30 years ago- and survived and even gone on to have kids afterwards. There are a lot of survivors out there. You often just don't know they've had it.

Tis still shite though.

frikonastick Wed 05-Jun-13 05:58:21

Vvv, you have my every sympathy. I second everything that penguin said. I do understand though, that however positive the outlook, the diagnosis and all that comes with it is far reaching and life changing. Crossing fingers for your friend, and holding your hand too xxx

justaboutalittlefrazzled Wed 05-Jun-13 06:01:18

Oh my goodness, vvviola, I am so sorry.

WhatSheSaid Wed 05-Jun-13 09:46:31

Sorry to hear about your friend vvv

Sibble Wed 05-Jun-13 20:18:26

VVV thinking of you as well.

vvviola Wed 05-Jun-13 21:47:50

Thank you all. And thanks for the positivity frik and penguin. It's useful to be reminded of it. We chatted by email yesterday and she seems to be staying positive and I know she has a very close-knit family and lots of friends back home so she'll have plenty of support.

I have unilaterally decided that my job will be distraction, so she's going to get lots of pictures of the girls and lots of stories about her minx of a goddaughter. It's about the only useful thing I can do from here. confused

justaboutalittlefrazzled Thu 06-Jun-13 00:39:02

It can be a very important thing, vviola. You have the advantage that you are not caught up in the drama. A window to a different life may be exactly what she needs.
Crap for you, but actually could be quite precious to her.

frikonastick Thu 06-Jun-13 00:56:34

Absolutely, there is nothing better than feeling, and being, connected to the people you love in an everyday way.

giantpenguinmonster Thu 06-Jun-13 01:40:01

Yep, I agree. You can never have too many offers of help, a shoulder to cry on or little pick me ups.

I'll be thinking of you Vvv and feel free to chat here about it. It can be hard being the support crew.

AngryBeaver Thu 06-Jun-13 05:57:21

Aw, vvv, that is really shit (and your swearing really is mild...feel free to through a few mother fuckers in there if it helps?i think I once wrote a post on here that said nothing more than FUUUCK, several times. It was quite satisfying)

So sorry to hear about your friend.

Also know lots of survivors.

One of the "better" types of cancer to get, if you know what I mean?
But still, horrifying for her and all that love her hmm

Your plan of distraction is wise and good smile

frikonastick Fri 07-Jun-13 01:50:04

Sooooooo, DH saw the landlord today and he told him that he is in negotiations to sell the house to developers as he also owns the place next door. Basically he will tell us in a month if the deal goes through. It was very nice of him to tell us as he doesn't have to, and we still have a while to go on the current lease, so at least we know what's going on, but I am really really REALLY hoping the deal falls through and we get to stay! It's awful to wish bad luck on someone else to benefit yourself though isn't it...... bugger bugger bugger

giantpenguinmonster Fri 07-Jun-13 02:33:28

Bugger, that's a pain. When does your DH start his job? I'm guessing you've been house hunting!

I finally have my first NZ job. I'm chuffed to bits and start on Monday. It's all a bit scary as the other work I've done has been from home and now I have to commute across the city.

Can anyone give me any insights into office hours in NZ? The job seems to be flexible with 8 hours to be worked between 8am and 6pm.

WhatSheSaid Fri 07-Jun-13 02:48:42

Congrats gpm. I've never worked in an office in NZ so I'm no use grin. Are you commuting north, south, west? If the hours are flexible I would go with times to avoid the worst of the traffic e.g. 8-4.30 or 9.30-6. And also what fits in best with childcare hours, will you be using a daycare?

giantpenguinmonster Fri 07-Jun-13 03:11:34

Thanks WSS. I'm commuting from East to the West of the city. Did a trial run at 8.10 yesterday and it took 40 mins including drop off which didn't seem too bad. DD goes to nursery part time already so we have just upped her hours. The current plan is for me to do drop off's and DH to do pick ups.

frikonastick Fri 07-Jun-13 03:17:54

Congrats penguin! Nope, not been house hunting yet, well browsing on the Internet but that's it. DH and I had actually decided to stay renting for at least a couple of years, so hahahahahahaha! I guess the universe has other ideas grin DH starts on the 17th. Still can't quite believe it

giantpenguinmonster Fri 07-Jun-13 05:04:01

Oh crap. I just found a single larvae in my pantry cupboard. Flour is okay but where the fuck did it come from?

BBQWidow Fri 07-Jun-13 05:25:25

Congratulations on the job! That's awesome.

AngryBeaver Sat 08-Jun-13 05:44:26

Well done on the job!

Right, I am royally fucked right off!

We've just had a nice family walk, up to the top of a very steep long hill at the sports park
Dd's brand new trainers were a bit big, so she left them and her socks at the bottom.
We were only going to the top.
There was a footy game going on at the bottom.
We were passed by a guy on a moped (who said hello)
When we got to th bottom...the fucking trainers were gone!
We asked around and it looks like that guy on the moped took them!

What kind of fucking scumbag would you have to be to steal a child's shoes??
How will he sleep tonight?!

Dd was beside herself and wanting to know why he would take them, why does he want her shoes??

We drove around looking for him, but in a way, I'm glad we didn't see him...not sure what I would have done.

I know it's petty theft.
But he has stolen from my innocent child.

I want to scratch his thieving eyes out!!

vvviola Sat 08-Jun-13 08:04:13

Oh AB that's truly crappyconfused your poor DD. I'd be very unimpressed.

Penguin I don't know about the larva - I'd imagine I'd be scrubbing the kitchen for days. Shudder.

Spoke to my Mum this morning, which reminded me of the less pleasant aspects of small town Ireland. "Did you know about D? (My friend) X told me that Y told her that she's due for surgery on the 15th and Z said... etc etc" Mum isn't usually a gossip, and it's mostly out of concern for D as we've been friends since we were teenagers so she's very fond of her, but it did help mitigate the "I want to be home" feeling a bit wink

justaboutalittlefrazzled Sun 09-Jun-13 06:24:11

LOL at small town Ireland. yes I can imagine.

I am very relieved, DS3 just told me that he likes "kindy Marmite." Was very peturbed that he was losing his taste for English Marmite, but fortunately he reassured me that he liked the home marmite more.

Sibble Sun 09-Jun-13 06:30:30

Self indulgent moment - back from Wellington conference and won a prize for my presentation - havn't got the cheque yet but should be $1,000 grin but more to the point when it looks like there will be people laid off at work shortly hopefully this week's good outcomes will count for something. All in all a very good and exciting week in the Sibble household - what next!

justaboutalittlefrazzled Sun 09-Jun-13 06:32:37

oh that;s brilliant Sibble, you deserved some good news!

AngryBeaver Sun 09-Jun-13 09:52:14

Great news sibble, well done you!

giantpenguinmonster Sun 09-Jun-13 10:02:16

Well done Sibble! I hope you are going to spend it on yourself!

vvviola Sun 09-Jun-13 10:31:58

Hurray for Sibble!! grinwine

Hope you've got it earmarked for some treats.

Incidentally, if someone finds my get-and-go, could they return it to me please. I have an assignment of 2000 words due tomorrow, I've written (badly) about 1000 words so its going to be a very late night finishing it off. And yet I'm sitting here pottering about with the ipad making sure it will be an even later night!

vvviola Sun 09-Jun-13 10:48:50

Obviously it's my get-up-and-go I'm looking for. Sigh. 'Twill be a very long night I suspect!

Sibble Sun 09-Jun-13 20:03:03

Thanks all. VVV I hope you managed to get some sleep.

And the money - yet to receive the cheque but it is already spent on a pair of boots and a top. DH thinks I'm mad but I decided to give half to my colleague, we'd worked together on the study and abstract and it felt like the right thing to do.

justaboutalittlefrazzled Sun 09-Jun-13 21:22:56

That sounds lovely Sibble. I would love you forever if I was your colleague.

We have had croupy nights from both DS2 and 3. And DH has manflu a bad cold.

frikonastick Mon 10-Jun-13 09:14:20

Sorry ladies, been laid low with this horrible flu thing, its been 2 weeks already :-( And then the flippen computer blew up!

Sibble, how fantastic for you! And how fantastic of you too.

Vvv, hope all went well with your paper and justa, that the boys (all of them grin ) get well soon

It's DHs last week before he starts work, and I am desperate to be better so he can have a lovely one, rather than sleeping on the spare single mattress on the freezing floor in the spare room so he can get away from my interminable hacking at night. I have been cooking him all his favourites though, so it's not all bad! Lol

justaboutalittlefrazzled Wed 12-Jun-13 05:18:30

How is everybody now?

DS2 just been stricken. Had horrible day with him thinking he had regressed into nightmare child but now realise it was because he had a fever. Poor little mite.

frikonastick Wed 12-Jun-13 21:34:21

Much much better thanks justa :-) hope DS2 feels better soon too

vvviola Thu 13-Jun-13 08:12:31

All the energy I now have thanks to having finished my assignments is being taken by my battle against black mould.confused

How does it get everywhere? I mean, I've lived in some pretty grotty places as a student and just after and I never had such a problem with mould. blush

I know housekeeping isn't exactly my strong point, but I just don't know where it's all coming from!

This evenings planned activity of doing as little as possible in front of the TV has now been replaced by scrubbing mould of drawers & window surrounds.

I may have realised one of the reasons the previous tenant left (& why they told us a different story from the owner)

WhatSheSaid Thu 13-Jun-13 08:35:43

Does your place not get much sun vvv? Do you open the windows for a while every day? A dehumidifier may help.

vvviola Thu 13-Jun-13 08:40:04

It gets a bit of sun - not as much as out last place though, especially the kitchen which seems to be the worst place for the mould.

I'm obsessive about opening windows & we've been running the dehumidifier every day for the past month.

DH did a bit of digging about and suspects that part of the problem in the kitchen cupboards may be the crappy dishwasher venting steam behind the cupboards.

I will scrub everything (again!) and keep going with the dehumidifier and see what happens. We were taking today about when we might ask the landlord about extending for a second year - if I can't get on top of this without spending inordinate amounts of time with rubber gloves and bleach every couple of weeks, I think that's a conversation that just won't happen confused

frikonastick Thu 13-Jun-13 10:50:31

iTunes. I am having an iTunes crisis. I have American iTunes and I previously bought iTunes credit via a website called cardmommy but they are now no longer in business. How can I get USA iTunes top ups? Please please please can somebody be way smarter and savvier than me and come up with an alternative? It is my only vice. Really. And seeing as I have given up being funny and beautiful and thin and drinking and smoking and brilliant sarcastic rejoinders that pass for wonderful conversations, I am quite seriously not prepared to give up my iTunes <and breathe>

vvviola Thu 13-Jun-13 11:13:01

Frik - two options. First, I think you can get iTunes vouchers via eBay - private sellers getting vouchers and selling them on I think, nothing official, but worth a look.

Secondly, and possibly more use as a permanent solution. You can have 2 iTunes accounts. I set up a NZ account when I got here (mainly for the trademe app which you can only get on the NZ store). You just set up another apple ID with a new email address (I just created a new gmail one) and you can switch back and forward in iTunes. The thing is though - or at least as far as I can tell - once you have bought and downloaded the music/app/whatever it's there on your device so it doesn't matter what you are signed in as.

I'll see if I can find the article I read that showed me how to set it up.

justaboutalittlefrazzled Thu 13-Jun-13 11:14:33

you are still funny!

but no idea about ITunes.

frikonastick Thu 13-Jun-13 11:33:35

grin but these days justa, it's mostly b accident!

Vvv thanks, that would be awesome

vvviola Thu 13-Jun-13 11:48:20

Frik - I can't seem to find the article I read, but this seems to confirm it's as easy as just setting up two accounts (I think it was newly discovered when I did it, I only found one article at the time, but there seems to be loads now)

http://www.ipadforums.net/ipad-help/30820-can-i-have-apple-store-accounts-two-countries.html

giantpenguinmonster Thu 13-Jun-13 12:03:29

Hope everyone who has been sick is feeling better.

I have survived my first week of work and I think I can see the glimmer of a career on the horizon again. I thought I had killed it stone dead by having DD.

But man, am I tired. It has been super stressful being the new girl.

Sibble Thu 13-Jun-13 20:17:15

Is spotify an option - not itunes I know but from memory $7/month subscription and downloadable onto all your gadgets. I run the free version on my laptop because I am too lazy to upload it all onto my ipod, keep it up to date and faff around (I am ashamed to admit I have about 20 songs on my ipod via itunes but heaps on spotify!)

Sibble Thu 13-Jun-13 20:18:16

oh and GPM congrats on your first week at work - it is knackering but I love having something that's mine - even if it is work sad I know!

justaboutalittlefrazzled Fri 14-Jun-13 01:25:59

ooh do you have an office? with a chair without sticky fingermarks?
and do you have time to make AND drink a cup of tea without being bothered for playdough?
and are you actually going to the toilet by yourself too?

frikonastick Fri 14-Jun-13 02:00:25

Actual real laugh out loud at going to the loo alone, I was just this very minute feeling wistful about my last wee of the day in peace before DD gets home from kindly grin

Penguin, I am jealous of you starting work. In fact i am terribly jealous of DH too. I am quietly dreading him starting on Monday. Fuck sake, I'm already bloody lonely enough.

Sorry, am a bit sixes and sevens. Hormones I think. Yay for being a girl!!!! <those are sarcastic exclamation marks>

giantpenguinmonster Fri 14-Jun-13 04:06:12

I have an office in a very trendy part of town. Next to a coffee shop. But no chair or desk till next week. I have wee'd alone though smile.

Frik- it has taken me three years to get a job. And this is sort of a sidewards step from the career that is my passion. But it looks like I may get to do more of the bit I love than I had expected. My aim is to learn as much as humanly possible in the the six month and survive the office politics without pissing everyone off.

BBQWidow Fri 14-Jun-13 04:42:33

Well done on surviving your first week at the new job GPM! That's a huge achievement. I'm now 2 months into my job and I feel like I know nothing. It's quite different to things I've done previously, but with occasional familiarity.

vvviola Fri 14-Jun-13 08:35:12

Well done on getting through the first week penguin! grin

We're just back from DD1's school disco. It was unbearably cute, but I had a sudden flash forward to 12/13 years from now... and it was terrifying wink

Operation "Leave DH with DD2 and see if he can get her to sleep" was an unmitigated disaster though. confused

giantpenguinmonster Fri 14-Jun-13 09:59:41

Hope you DD2 are okay Vvv.

I'm having a shoe crisis. I need smart girly shoes that I can wear with a skirt/dress. I wish I could still wear DM's. Or maybe even ankle boots.

Can anyone recommend anywhere to buy shoes that are comfortable and don't cost a zillion $$$? I've tried Hush Puppies and Ziera.

WhatSheSaid Fri 14-Jun-13 10:13:59

Marks and Spencer's are still doing free delivery gpm if you want to get something online. I just got the dds some shoes from there for $9 each.

vvviola Fri 14-Jun-13 11:09:55

She recovered fairly quickly when my boobs I returned grin They'd actually had a lovely time right up until bedtime, which was lovely.

I have actually seen some nice looking boots in Farmers recently. I keep meaning to go back and try some on.

Sibble Fri 14-Jun-13 20:57:11

Shoes - Overland??? Not the cheapest but don't fall apart after 5 seconds and usually comfy from the outset.

Sibble Sat 15-Jun-13 00:36:56

Very excited - dh and I have tickets for the theatre tonight in town. The boys are off to friends for the night so DH has surprised me with a last minute booking for hotel and pre-theatre dinner with friends we havn't seen in ages. I have just dropped ds2 off and he's dropping ds1 off then we're off into town. It's been 3.5 years since we spent a night in a hotel without the boys grin. What am I most looking forward to - swim in hotel pool and sauna and looking at the city lights from room tonight - I miss city lights. Off to pack!

WhatSheSaid Sat 15-Jun-13 00:56:36

envy Jealous Sibble. Haven't had a night away with dh since 2007. Or possibly 2006. It's been so long I can't even remember! Have a great time.

vvv. Do lots of parents stay at your school disco? They sort of encourage us not to at dd's school - well you can but it's $10 an adult ticket and I think they don't really want too many parents to stay. Probably because the hall was busy enough with about 200 kids in there! Dd1 just had her first disco the other week and loved it.

frikonastick Sat 15-Jun-13 08:19:17

Lovely sibble! Although, I can think of something else that may be on my list of things I would be eager to do..... grin

Went to the Field day in Hamilton, was really fun, but flippen cold!

justaboutalittlefrazzled Sat 15-Jun-13 08:38:27

Parents don't pay to stay at school disco, I think they like us being there as it helps with managing the crowds.

BBQWidow Sat 15-Jun-13 10:22:16

My eldest is having a sleepover party tonight...god almighty it is loud! They're still going strong at the moment. 9 year old girls. Says it all really, doesn't it.

frikonastick Sat 15-Jun-13 12:08:53

DD has her first disco on the 21st, it's at kindy. I didn't realise kindys did dances too, but DD is very very excited about it. She told me that I would also have to dress up 'special like ladies, not mommies'. I've told DH if I have to go, so does he!

BBQWidow Sat 15-Jun-13 12:09:59

I used to love kindy discos. They were just adorable.

vvviola Sun 16-Jun-13 22:22:33

I think there may have been more parents than kids grin They definitely encourage staying for the junior disco (years 1-3). Not sure about the older kids. They even have a parents room where is was rumoured there was wine. Didn't quite make it there.

I'm having a woe-is-me day for no apparent reason. Am sure it will shift soon, but it's usually a sign I need to see people. So, anyone free for a child-free (for me, have no objection to spending time with anyone else's kids wink) coffee on Friday. Anytime before about 2:30? Justa? XMinerva? Anyone else?

And/or... I have a meeting at uni on Thursday that should be finished by 11:30 or so. I could do lunch/coffee in the city??

frikonastick Sun 16-Jun-13 22:55:32

Oh god. ME. I am free. I think I would even walk to Auckland if it meant coffee and a conversation.

justaboutalittlefrazzled Sun 16-Jun-13 23:47:34

Yes I am free but i have no car. Come here and I will make you fiter coffee and cheer you up (also might spare me from killing homeschool children)

justaboutalittlefrazzled Sun 16-Jun-13 23:47:54

Frik, you really need to come up on a daytrip smile

frikonastick Mon 17-Jun-13 01:21:56

Actually, that's a mighty fine idea. As soon as DH gets his company car, I think DD and I might go on a road trip

justaboutalittlefrazzled Mon 17-Jun-13 01:44:52

ooh yes. We can do lunch!

frikonastick Mon 17-Jun-13 03:10:16

Yes!

giantpenguinmonster Mon 17-Jun-13 10:18:47

Thanks for the shoe advice ladies. I will check out Framers and Overland next weekend.

justaboutalittlefrazzled Mon 17-Jun-13 10:24:51

ooh ooh! I have won either 100 or 200 dollars worth of Farmers gift vouchers, by getting that letter I mentioned yonks back in Tots and Teens mag.

Christmas shopping, sorted.

vvviola Mon 17-Jun-13 12:31:07

Hurray justa! Good news grin

(And coffee at yours on Friday sounds lovely. Shall call tomorrow when I get a minute)

justaboutalittlefrazzled Tue 18-Jun-13 00:31:27

Ah. Now Friday I actually will have the car, so we could be a bit more adventurous. Will have all three boys, though. Will you have DD2?

Sibble Tue 18-Jun-13 01:06:49

congrats justa - this is the lucky thread!

vvviola Tue 18-Jun-13 22:26:09

I won't have DD2 on Friday, so wherever suits you and the boys is perfect for me (although having seen your FB post, perhaps you should be taking it easy??)

Sibble Wed 19-Jun-13 00:49:26

poor ds1 has broken his thumb at rugby training. Apparently while this affects his ability to write (pointless going to school), doing hockey for PE today (can't hold stick or easily get dressed/undresssed) it will not affect his ability to play in the inter-school tournament next week hmm.

DH is equally mortified - apparently this is his 'rugby career' over - he's 13 not an All Black and it's his thumb! Now who's the drama queen grin

frikonastick Wed 19-Jun-13 06:39:26

Oh no, poor DS! Typical dad response I think, my dad banned my brother from rugby when he got tackled badly once, in order to protect DBs tennis career! In fairness though, my brother did go on to play professionally, but still smarted from the rugby shame for years grin

WhatSheSaid Wed 19-Jun-13 07:06:03

Dh had to have a knee replacement at age 28 due to playing rugby - but if we had had sons he would have been desperate for them to play too.

giantpenguinmonster Wed 19-Jun-13 08:12:09

Justa- have you come across this organisation?

artsaccess.org.nz/

justaboutalittlefrazzled Wed 19-Jun-13 22:24:51

No, I haven't but ooh. Looks really good.

AngryBeaver Thu 20-Jun-13 09:36:40

Or you, like lolly, could come over to waiheke tomorrow and set me for a flat white!
smile

AngryBeaver Thu 20-Jun-13 09:36:56

Meet!

BBQWidow Thu 20-Jun-13 23:58:59

If I had sons, there's no way on earth that they'd be allowed to play rugby. It is so dangerous. I have worked with too many rugby players over my career (as patients). IMO they need to bin scrums altogether.

Sibble Fri 21-Jun-13 01:16:44

For those interested there is an article in Metro magazine about High Schools which is rather timely as we have been seriously considering moving ds1 from private to state opening another can of worms about whether we move again into MacLeans zone...... Interesting read.

vvviola Fri 21-Jun-13 11:47:12

My friend is going in for her surgery as we speak. I'm terrified for her and wish I could be there.

DD2 is helping me support her godmother by waking every 45 minutes (bloody allergies) thus giving me time to sit & think while I rock her to sleep again wink

frikonastick Fri 21-Jun-13 22:03:56

Crossing fingers vvv

justaboutalittlefrazzled Fri 21-Jun-13 23:54:49

Oh vviola, hope you and she get through it OK.

Sibble Sat 22-Jun-13 06:42:45

vvv thinking of you

vvviola Sat 22-Jun-13 08:22:27

Thanks everyone. Apparently the surgery went very well, which is good news. Now comes the hard part for her - chemo and radiotherapy, followed by the breast reconstruction when she gets the all clear.

On a totally unrelated and more inane note - is anyone managing to get clothes dry this weather at all? Half our stuff can't be tumble dried and ends up either getting repeatedly soaked because it pours rain any time I go out, or it stinks because it dried inside. I miss radiators...

justaboutalittlefrazzled Sat 22-Jun-13 08:31:25

Glad to hear that Vv.

I am using the tumbledrier at the moment quite a bit. Yes, I agree, stuff dried inside does stink. Sorry, not much help. Can you dryclean?

Sibble Sat 22-Jun-13 08:45:54

Can't help either as we have a dryer (most things), hot water cupboard and a Queenslander style house which I hated when we first moved in but I have 2 huge retractable clothes lines so clothes seem to mostly dry outside even when it's raining then I put them in the hot water cupboard to finish off - ? hang them in the garage if you have one and finish in the hot water cupboard?

We are off to Waiheke tomorrow - am hoping it's not windy - we went to teh market at Pine Harbour this morning and just looking at the sea made me queasy = might need the sea legs!

frikonastick Sat 22-Jun-13 08:46:27

Great news vvvv! Yes to tumble drier, we still haven't taken the plunge on a new one, so I am doing like, 3 loads a day because I can only dry 5 things at a time...... Our power bill is going to be interesting.......

WhatSheSaid Sat 22-Jun-13 09:00:10

We don't have a drier so everything has been dried in the garage this week - big overhead washing rack in there. Clothes don't smell as nice as when they're dried outside but at least in there I can leave the garage door open so some fresh air gets in.

I have heard a good way to dry clothes inside is washing rack in a small room, door shut and dehumidifier on for a few hours. Kind of like a slow-action drier.

I had a look at the Metro schools issue today, it was quite encouraging about the improvements in results our local school has made.

vvv glad your friend's surgery went well.

vvviola Sat 22-Jun-13 10:25:13

Might try the small room & dehumidifier idea WSS.

It's stuff like DH's t-shirts, some of the girls dresses & trousers, my jumpers. So couldn't really justify dry cleaning. But I remember friends at uni used to put all their stuff in at the laundrette for a "service wash" and get it back dry. But was probably tumble dried anyway, so wouldn't be much use. I'm just getting tired of re washing the same stuff over & over. confused

Maybe I'll just have to make my peace with the chemicals in something like fabreeze until winter is over. Yuk.

BBQWidow Sat 22-Jun-13 10:33:08

Hope your friend gets her reconstruction soon VVV.

I have to share this. My friend's 9 year old left it for her. http://s216.photobucket.com/user/konnnix/media/GynaColleges.jpg.html

BBQWidow Sat 22-Jun-13 10:33:35

Evidently, I have no idea about posting links on this website.

WhatSheSaid Sat 22-Jun-13 10:43:23

s216.photobucket.com/user/konnnix/media/GynaColleges.jpg.html

You just tick the box underneath that says "Convert links automatically" smile

BBQWidow Sat 22-Jun-13 10:46:33

OK. Thanks smile I'm a total technophuckwit on this website.

giantpenguinmonster Sat 22-Jun-13 10:58:53

Vvv- good news the first step went well. I am sending good vibes to you and your pal.

We have an outside drying line which is undercover. And two drying racks in our basement where we run a dehumidifier. I also give stuff 5 mins on top of an oil rad to finish it off while I am in the room. I know this is naughty. I'm trying to hold off on a drier still.

We're spending a fortune on heating atm.

giantpenguinmonster Thu 27-Jun-13 06:58:12

Bloody hell. I didn't mean to kill the thread!

lollystix Thu 27-Jun-13 09:05:55

Hello all - I'm still here periodically. Work is just sucking the life out of me sad

justaboutreadyforbed Thu 27-Jun-13 10:19:55

I'm here. Sleepy. PILs visiting. Hard work. Although we had nice trip to restaurant.

Sibble Thu 27-Jun-13 20:39:56

Checking in from the infirmary. We are playing tag with flu and a tummy bug. Work is manic and I've only been in the office 1 day the past few weeks. DHs aunt has died, funeral next week, trying to get ready for trip overseas and school hols. Manic get me out of here expression.

meerkate Thu 27-Jun-13 21:02:33

Hi everyone <waves> Sibble that sounds exhausting, you poor soul! Hope things settle soon.
Good to catch up with everyone.
All well here, still nothing new on the job front in either NZ or Oz (the Middlemore job seems to have disappeared into thin air - communication from their side very, very poor, we eventually lost interest after a few weeks; I assume they either found someone else or decided not to fill the post, who knows!) but we'll bide our time.
Spring is gorgeous here, though a few lovely sunny days have given way to rain, surprise surprise. Just had a fab weekend (child and husband-free! <glee>) in Ireland - West Cork. Stunning part of the world. justa - that was seeing peanutbrittle, in fact, from our long-ago meditation thread, just realised you would remember her! I am living proof that it's possible to make lifelong close buddies from a MN thread - she is one of my dearest RL pals!
Love to you all, back soon smile

Sibble Fri 28-Jun-13 00:48:54

ok am lying on the sofa feeling very sick. Need to get hold of ds1 to let him know that he needs to go to the school office to get a pass to get out of school early as I need to muster up the energy to get him to fracture clinic this afternoon. Thought - aha I know I will use ds2s ipod to message him as he never has his phone on but takes his ipod to school. There were messages from ds1 and ds2 to each other. Maybe I shouldn't have looked but thought - ooh wonder what they talk about. Can somebody please tell me how ds1 can get 50% in his last Chinese exam at school but know how to spell 'fat arse' in Samoan with apostrophe in the correct place.

Might be private school but it's still South Auckland. DS2s response 'and you are an ompa lompa'. Did make me laugh! grin

frikonastick Fri 28-Jun-13 06:18:22

I'm here too, just getting through the first weeks of DHs new job while being a one car family has been a bit interesting! Sibble, sorry to hear you are unwell, sending get well soon vibes your way, and i say, read their phones with impunity! Justa, PILs! How's that working out? Mine have told us they are coming for Xmas.......... So now my parents are all miffed because I said we weren't having anyone for the first year.....families ey. Meerkate, I saw your photos on fb, looked like a lovely holiday indeed.

Oh oh and also, has anyone been skiing here? On the north island I mean

vvviola Fri 28-Jun-13 08:35:40

I'm here, kind of. grin DD2 had a few allergic reactions & reverted back to pre- diagnosis sleep patterns (did I say this already, I'm so sleep deprived I can't remember) and we're only just coming out the other side now. And she now has a cold! hmm I'm spending most nights sharing a bed with her because from midnight she seems to be unable to sleep in her cot.

Sibble - poor you. Hope you're on the mend soon.

Frik - we went to Tongariro last year, but not to ski - just at the edge of the season to see some snow & potter about. Seems like a good set up. We ended up leaving early as it started to snow heavily on the mountain, but meant it was freezing rain lower down and DD2 was, um, uncooperative wink

I'm not a great skier too accident prone but I'd really like to get back down there. Maybe next winter --and we'll bring a nanny and a ski instructor for the kids because obviously we'll have won the lottery by then--wink

WhatSheSaid Fri 28-Jun-13 09:19:30

frik I haven't been skiing but pre-kids I used to go snowboarding every year. Few years ago now though.

frikonastick Fri 28-Jun-13 09:24:23

We are really keen to go, we've been waiting until we were somewhere that actually had snow grin and for DD to be old enough and I think this winter is it! But I don't know where to stay and stuff. I think I will post some links to the things I thinking of, and you all can weigh in

WhatSheSaid Fri 28-Jun-13 09:57:17

I've stayed at both Tongariro and Ohakune. Ohakune is a bit more party-towny but not excessively so. It also has more facilities like cafes, restaurants etc.

Sibble Fri 28-Jun-13 21:44:01

We are looking at going as well. Been here 11 years and never been to the snow - north or south (in fact never been to the south island at all blush) every time I look the airfares for 4 are horrendous for a long weekend! This year though.

WhatSheSaid Sat 29-Jun-13 06:09:40

We got flights to Queenstown $99 pp each way...still worked out at $600 for 3 of us of course, was a great holiday though. That was in summer not winter.

Want to take the dcs to the ski fields sometime, mine have never seen snow (apart from on the tops of mountains in Queenstown). Maybe next year...

lollystix Sat 29-Jun-13 10:15:47

I liked Ohakune if that's how it's spelt.

frikonastick Sat 29-Jun-13 23:02:02

Thanks guys, that's helpful, did you all stay in lodges, hotels, motels? I'm not sure which would be best. It's just the three of us and chalets seem to cater for bigger groups more, but staying in a hotel the food is always so expensive. Thoughts? I am actually really excited about this! Can't believe we live in NZ, and can go skiing grin

WhatSheSaid Sat 29-Jun-13 23:15:24

We stayed at a backpackers place (pre-kids), I think it may have had family accommodation too. What I remember most about it was it had PROPER central heating, you know, radiators with pipes and everything shock grin

My Kiwi friends were all "Oooooh, look at these things, what a great idea, aren't they amazing". Errrrrr YES!

I will try to look up which place it was and post later, we're just off to Mission Bay for playground and beach.

frikonastick Sun 30-Jun-13 00:03:46

Lol! Have fun :-)

WhatSheSaid Sun 30-Jun-13 07:26:17

It was this place we stayed at, www.rimupark.co.nz/. I remember the railway carriages converted to accommodation. We stayed in dorm rooms so I've no idea what the chalets etc are like.

There seems to be quite a variety of accommodation in Ohakune, you could always check out Trip Advisor for reviews. And maybe try bookabach or holidayhomes.co.nz too.

Mission Bay was fab, after so many years here I still get impressed by lovely sunny warm winter days when you can go to the beach smile

AngryBeaver Sun 30-Jun-13 22:24:07

Did you see me waving was?! grin

I'm here. Sorry I've been rubbish.
It's since I got this iPad mini for crimbo (because I dropped the laptop and made it go breaky)
It's harder to check the thread..but not much I'm just lazy!

I think also I'm just a bit caught up in things at the moment.

Stressed every month hoping hoping, then being disappointed.

Have had some basic tests ad examinations, and there is nothing obviously wrong with me.
So...?

We have decided to keep trying until Xmas and then give up...it makes me too sad.

Plus Hope's anniversary is coming up, immissing my family and friends, we're worried about money and finding a house,
so I'm just feeling a bit overwhelmed by everything I think!

Christ, what a frigging moaner I am, eh?!

On the plus, really enjoying waiheke, kids are all very happy, I have made 2 really great friends who I've clicked with straight away (they are daft like me smile) dh is enjoying work, and so life for everyone is pretty good.

Hope everyone is alright and bugs, PILS and sleep depravation are soon gone! (Unless you like your pils justa!)

AngryBeaver Sun 30-Jun-13 22:24:28

Wss! Not was

AngryBeaver Sun 30-Jun-13 22:26:42

My pils have threaded a trip and have had a knot in my stomach ever since...can I MN couch surf if they come please?!

justaboutreadyforbed Sun 30-Jun-13 23:16:45

Ha ha, my PILs have left now, I do like them in theory but in practice they are hard work.
Unbelievable news, My goodness my mother is coming out again in November December! This is the woman who was never going to visit! Her boyfriend is coming too (the one who hated NZ in the 70s and vowed he would never return!)

justaboutreadyforbed Sun 30-Jun-13 23:19:19

you are not a moaner, AB, I was just thinking how you were doing and wondering if it was hard right now.
I had four and a half years of that monthly stress pre-kids so I do totally get how depressing and dispiriting it is.
Glad you have found daft friends on waiheke, that's great.

We are all exhausted, we've all been ill and now DS1 has got bug. I am being crap mother ignoring kids and playing on computer instead of organised bossy Home Education one (but maybe they will like it better)

frikonastick Mon 01-Jul-13 10:16:49

AB!! You aren't a whiner (hahahahahahaha by the way, my iPad auto corrected that to wino!!!!!) and look at you, with your friends and your island life and everything, you are doing brilliantly. Hopefully the other things will fall into place too, holding thumbs for you.

Justa, lol, I hear you......

giantpenguinmonster Mon 01-Jul-13 10:38:02

Glad to hear all are okay and I haven't killed the thread.

AB- you are the exact opposite of a whiner. You have been an absolute hero to cope with so much and so much change since you left the UK.

It feels like all around me are ill and I am fighting something off. DD has been up the last few nights so I am off to bed. It appears 10pm is the new midnight for a working penguin.

AngryBeaver Mon 01-Jul-13 22:14:52

Thanks gals smile
Hahaha, to wino frick, have you been looking in my recycling bin??!
We too, are playing sickness dominos, ain't it a larf?! (No)

Justa, lovely that your mum is coming again!

My mum is coming in sept and told dd via Skype that she could "come and have a look around some houses and help pick one for granny to buy!" So! I think she might be 3 months here 3there.
She said 6 months is too long, she's started crying all the time on Skype sad not wailing or anything, but visibly upset.

Penguin, I hope you got some sleep and are all fresh for work!
How's it going?

vvviola Tue 02-Jul-13 00:25:33

Another player in the sickness dominoes here.. confused

DD2 has an ear infection, I have temperature/aches/sore throat, and DD1 sounds like she's about to cough up a lung at any minute. Amazingly the hypochondriac DH appears to have missed this round.

Oh, and a random question: has anyone seen Jelly Tots here, or "real" (the soft type) jelly babies? Bribery material for DD2 required wink

justaboutreadyforbed Tue 02-Jul-13 00:25:46

ooh exciting! It will be the AngryBeaver iwi of Waiheke!

WhatSheSaid Tue 02-Jul-13 01:24:27

Wow, AB that would be amazing, to have your mum have her own house here and be here for months at a time. And if she buys a house on Waiheke she could rent it out as a holiday house too if she wanted.

vvv the ice cream shop near us sells Jelly Tots, $2 a pack. And I'm sure Bramptins in Browns Bay get them in, are you near their shop?

AngryBeaver Tue 02-Jul-13 03:04:05

Ha justa, yes we're taking over!
That's the idea, she'll probably rent it out inbetween visits.

It will be lovely but strange.
I knw se wouldn't e ere if she could choose? But feels she must be here, because sh misses the children so much.
So I've forced her hand.

So I think that will always be there.
I'm pretty sure she wouldn't ave even ever holidayed in nz if not for us.

She loved Sydney, much more her!

Anyway, that how it is.

But I'm sure it won't be long before im reminded about all of the above!
And I wonder how dh will cope with his mil on the same island for monts!!
Hmmm

Vvv..I hope your all better soon hmm

vvviola Tue 02-Jul-13 08:26:52

I hadn't even thought of Bramptins, WSS, thanks! Shall investigate tomorrow.

I know the current thinking is that antibiotics don't do much for ear infections, but once again I've seen how that doesn't seem to apply for C. Only 2 doses in and she's obviously improving (slowly!). I'm really hoping we don't get a re-run of last winters endless ear infections. Although at least they are slightly easier to spot, now that she sits up, screams and points to her ear shouting "ow, there" grin

AB - if your DH needs comforting on the MIL-proximity issue, you can share with him DH's predicament. All going to plan and when we win the lottery wink we will be living next door to my parents when we move back to Ireland. Permanently grin

justaboutreadyforbed Tue 02-Jul-13 09:48:30

Antibiotics cured my ear infection last week OVERNIGHT. I mean, even less than that, within three hours it was starting to improve. I think it is antibiotic rationing TBH.

Sibble Tue 02-Jul-13 19:04:01

Not sure if it will help but we were told by a GP when ds2 kept getting recurrent ear infections to use saline nasal spray - it apparently keeps the nasal/ear passage clear and helps stop infections. He also showed 'us' how to blow his nose - hold one nostril closed and blow in short bursts through the other again to clear the passages. Hey whether it's a fluke or 'placebo effect' but I think it works = might be worth a try. DS2 is of course older and not sure about getting spray up the nose of those younger???

Sibble Tue 02-Jul-13 19:13:25

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/4344890/Virgin-the-worlds-best-passenger-complaint-letter.html

doing the rounds on facebook so you might have seen it but hilarious. Having said that he needs to try cattle class grin

Sibble Tue 02-Jul-13 23:16:18

I am just loving this site:

http://www.reddit.com/r/britishproblems/comments/x5rka/im_a_brit_staying_with_a_family_in_new_zealand_my/

especially: This is terrible, but I'm afraid there is no obvious solution.

You must offhandedly announce "I'm just going outside, and I may be some time", then nobly go and quietly die of hunger in a ditch.

As you can tell I am mad busy with work but my head is in Vanuatu - only 2 sleeps to go grin Only hoping they let us on the plane - maybe they will have a quarantine section at the back for the sick families.

justaboutreadyforbed Tue 02-Jul-13 23:45:03

Oh that is brilliant, I am giggling out loud. Just about to FB it now.

Sibble Wed 03-Jul-13 06:54:47

If you liked those try these:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/lukelewis/very-british-problems

giantpenguinmonster Wed 03-Jul-13 07:51:38

I loved Vanuatu Sibble. The people are so lovely.

AngryBeaver Wed 03-Jul-13 09:24:15

Did you fb it justa?
It doesn't convert to a link on my iPad! I'd have I set up the pc

justaboutreadyforbed Wed 03-Jul-13 09:44:54

yes I did, go look

really nice day, think I might at last have found a spiritual director

frikonastick Wed 03-Jul-13 11:59:32

What is a spiritual director? (And where can I get one) buzz feed is addictive

meerkate Wed 03-Jul-13 14:46:33

Hi girls! Your links on FB made me giggle - I was reminded of my mum, who is totally the type to desperately hang back on a crowded street to avoid having to - heavens above - strike up a conversation with an acquaintance, or indeed friend!!

AB - that's amazing news about your mum's thinking re Waiheke - it's what my parents would consider doing, I think, if we went to NZ or Oz - come out for several months a year, while they are still active and healthy. I refuse to think about the longer-term - we have some heart-rending cases in our Hospice where faraway relatives have to make impossible choices about when to come back, for how long, etc - so, so difficult.

justa - great news re your spiritual director - I'm with frik - I totally want one too grin I remember you talking about your UK one in the past and it must be so good to have found the right person. I once called up our local vicar (whom I had seen at the kids' school, guitar in hand, haha) and told him I had many questions of a spiritual nature and could we meet - he was a bit taken aback, but gamely 'took me on'. We had a couple of walks-and-talks and he lent me some books. At no point did he offer to become my life-time SD though <crestfallen> Interestingly, as far as I could see he was a Buddhist (like most of, but not all of me smile) in disguise, you would like him, justa.

Hmm - I seem to have digressed smile

Have an amazing time in Vanuatu sibble

penguin I loved your description of 10pm being the penguin midnight grin hope the job's going well.

Byeee!

meerkate Wed 03-Jul-13 14:49:37

PS
Did my first GP shift in over 18 months on Monday. 'Twas enormously stressful. I had forgotten how goddamn terrifying it all is. The potential Missing Of Important and Possible Life-Threatening Nasties, I mean. Anyway, on the topic of ABs for ear infections - I know!!!! All the guidelines bang on about how they don't work, they only shorten the episode by about 4 minutes, etc etc. Hundreds of studies have shown this, apparently. Meanwhile, back in real life...

frikonastick Wed 03-Jul-13 21:12:28

Oh well done you meerkate, going back to work after being away for ages is HARD. When i started back to work when DD was three, for the first week I was in a permanent state of panic. But that panic where you look all normal on the outside and it's screaming burning inferno of hell inside. Good times! It did only take a little while to wear off though.

Speaking of working, I have been approached by a company asking if I am interested in a job. First off that's a big deal because I had been pretty sure there was no way I would get a job here directly in my field, so, wow. Secondly, it's an industry referral, they didn't have any job openings as such but are very keen on my specific skill set. BUT DH and I had agreed that I wouldn't work for a year while we settled in. (Well actually the deal had been that whoever got work first, the other parent wouldn't work for a year, DH just got employed first). And now I'm scared that if I don't jump on it the offer won't be there in a year, even though they have intimated that whenever I am ready, to just let them know.

Actually, that's a big fat lie. The real truth is that I am just so shit at being a stay at home parent and I haven't made any friends and I am so fucking lonely that work seems like this bright shining life line thrown from the roiling clouds of self doubt and loathing.

Argh.

justaboutreadyforbed Wed 03-Jul-13 21:56:29

aagh just wrote long post and was eaten by computer. Summary - meerkate, your diocese will have a Bishop's Advisor on Spirituality or something, who will be able to refer you isto a spiritual director. Frik - SAHM is hard and not for everyone.
I shall in future do all my posts on this thread in telegraph.

Sibble Wed 03-Jul-13 21:59:13

frik Do whatever is going to make you happy. When we moved here we moved so I didn't have to work. I did playcentre, playgroup, mainly music etc etc.... slowly went mad. I wasn't cut out to be a full time SAHM. I was approached about a job - took it, albeit part time (they wanted F/T I negotiated) and havn't looked back. We have to be happy for the family to be happy, if that's staying at home - great, if that's working in some capacity - that's great too.

It sounds like the Universe has sent you something???

meerkate Wed 03-Jul-13 22:16:34

Oooh no frik - I have never been out of work for 18 months! I was just concentrating on hospice work and taking time out of GP for a while. I'm going to combine the two now, principally to keep my longer-term options open, especially if we move abroad, but am still going to mainly be doing hospice work - which I vastly prefer.

I wouldn't hesitate to take this job, frik - there is no reason to stick to the original 'one of us MUST have a year off work' resolution if it no longer seems necessary or helpful, surely? I feel that work offers a way in, in a new place I mean - a parallel way into friendships and a social setting to that offered by one's kids' school or kindy. I have had that awful feeling of isolation and homesickness and loneliness, I know it well. I think work can be an important part of the solution, myself. Especially if it's part-time and still allows important dollops of family time (and me-time grin)

justa - are you serious? I assumed you had to be in the ministry to truly have a SD!

meerkate Wed 03-Jul-13 22:18:52

PS frik - SAHM-ing: nobody could be more shit at it than me grin we shall compare notes one day on that beautiful sunset-viewing platform of a deck of yours one of these days smile

justaboutreadyforbed Wed 03-Jul-13 23:09:46

I am totally serious meerkate. There is a big lay explosion in SD these days. You will probably find that they are training loads of new ones and are keen to have someone to practice on as it were!

vvviola Thu 04-Jul-13 02:01:02

Frik - our plan when we got here was that I'd SAH with the 2 DDs until DD1 started school (January to August), and then with just DD2 until I could start Uni in February of this year.

DD1 was enrolled in kindy within a week of us moving into our house blush. And by March I was having conversations with the Uni on whether I could 1 course starting in July. I ended up doing 2, and DD2 went into crèche 6 months earlier than planned.

As a result I am (mostly) sane, get to have adult conversation during the week and haven't collapsed in a jabbering heap mumbling about playdoh. I even bake with my children on occasion grin

Best laid plans and all that... grin

vvviola Thu 04-Jul-13 02:03:13

Meerkate - I think you must have gone to the same GP training session as my doc here wink As she wrote out the prescription she muttered something about guidelines and how it had worked so well for DD last time that there was no harm trying again grin