Anybody moving abroad soon and fancy a hand holding thread?(88 Posts)
DH starts a job in Switzerland on 1st may. So we intend to move over there (currently in uk) around the end of april.
I'm looking forward to it but also v daunted. Anybody else on the move soon?
Not moving but in Switzerland (Geneva) since 2011. Happy to share experiences / answer questions!
I'm moving to Auckland, NZ beginning of April for a three year secondment (husband's job). We have a rented house lined up and are having our upfront costs met by his employers. We are looking at it as an adventure. We are in our late 50's, empty nesters with no grandchildren. Looking forward to the experience.
Good luck in Switzerland!
Moving to Germany in August, that's the plan anyway!
I'm currently doing a CELTA and attempting to learn German from a CD because there are no beginners' courses here. DP has been there since June and is looking for a place for us to live
Great thread idea, we are moving to the USA in a few weeks. Not enough time to post right now but will def be back later!
Moving to Kuala Lumpur in August, so have marked my place here!
On my way to Rome at the end of the school year.
Waiting to hear about school places for 1DC and wondering how much Italian i can learn before i go.
Excited but panicked at the same time.
Yes please...australia in about 3 weeks.
Dubai one month today! DH has been there since ginning of feb so can't wait to all be together again.
We've found tenants for our house here, DH has today found a house to rent there, we have a school place for reception DS1 and should hear if DS2 has got into the school pre-school soon
I'm getting excited!!!
We are! Moving to Oman at the end of this month! DH has been out there working since early Jan. Excited and nervous at the same time!
Oh fab timing on this thread - moving to Amman, Jordan in August with DH & 3DC - really excited at the moment, can't wait to tell family, but am sure nerves will hit in some time soon...
dana - do keep us posted on your experiences as I imagine there will be much I can learn from you!
We arrived in Australia a week ago !!
cleofatra - whereabouts are you going?
I am just over 7 months into our move to Cambodia. I can identify with all the emotions you have all said you are feeling.
It's been exciting, terrifying, unsettling and sometimes just plain weird!! When I arrived here I felt as if I had changed planets, not just continents. Now things seem less daunting and I am feeling more settled, although "home" is still the UK.
I've just found a beginner's German course here for £123 which slightly overlaps the end of my CELTA - going to be taking that up
It's feeling a bit abstract for me. I'm looking forward to being with DP again and I kind of know I'll be far away but it doesn't feel so far at the moment. It's only 1-2 hours on a plane, etc. I think it's going to be a bit of a shock when I get there, I just hope I can cope
I've been in Dubai since Dec...tbh I'm struggling a lot with it, but hoping I will start to settle in more soon!
Makingmama, do you mind expanding - what is it you're struggling with? I'm feeling positive about our move to Jordan but still very early days and haven't yet told family. Told my sister at the weekend as she is getting married in Nov & highly unlikely that we will be back for it. Didn't go down too well & I felt horrendous.
Hi everybody. Just marking place, will be back soon with my chat. Have children crawling on me at mo but worried I won't find thread again if I don't mark.
Hello. Great to see so many people. Hopefully we can do a bit of mutual hand holding.
misty it's Basel we are moving to. I may well be in touch with general Swiss questions.
Our exciting news is that we went over on a house hunt end of last week and have found and secured a city centre apartment. It's nice knowing where we will be living. But also quite surreal.
My husband is going to be on a local contract, it's not an assignment he's going on. So the move could be forever. Though I'm trying not to think of it that way.
Can i join this thread. After months of waiting, seems hubbie's transfer to singapore has finally been approved (well verbally still nothing in writing). Excited, scared at the same time. Probably going june ish time. Already done school applications, but so much will need to do (once get 100% written confirmation) first thing will be to tell dc and parents. Not good kids will be sad to leave grandparents but excited About school and living somewhere with pool Then rent house, pack up,wind up my business, so many things.
casper my main problem actually probably has more to do with the fact we're living with my parents 'temporarily' - 3 months so far...hopefully only another month max <<<prays>>> The dc ages 5,3 and 2 settled in straight away, also dh is faring better than me. I still can't drive here etc so feel I'm beig held back a lot. If I had a car I would just be off exploring, throwing myslef into as much as possible. There is so much on offer in Dubai. But the hardest thing for me has been the huge culture shock and everything being SO different here...I miss my lovely friends so much, feel very lonely here atm.
at the ladies moving to Dubai, it was my home for fours years up until we left last may. I still miss it so very much if you have any questions feel free to ask.
I'm in France now, we relocate to Korea in June as long as world war three hasn't broken out
Making mamma, you will soon get over the culture shock.
In fact there is hardly any culture there at all
The weather was the toughest part for me, but I soon grew to love it.
Where are you staying? Maybe a trip to waitrose will make you feel more at home
Thanks barbie I'm loving the weather so far, but not looking forward to the hot hot summer! Staying on the Palm in a villa so think that's a bit of a problem too with not driving as it's just a bit 'out of it'. Trying to get to grips with the different areas, and whether we want villa/apartment living...so when we start properly looking in the next couple of weeks for our own home I'll know which areas to focus on. Any advice will be gratefully received! The schools and nursery are all in Safa - so that area seems the most sensible...but then evey time I go to the Marina I change my mind!! .
Have been shopping to Waitrose which is great...and we went to Ikea a couple of days ago...was brilliant, felt right at home !
You need to get your head around the weather. Treat the summer a winter and do stuff indoors and winter is the new summer!
With children is would consider a villa with garden as opposed to an apartment, the marina looks lovely but is a bastard for traffic in the evenings. It's taken an hour to get out of there before now!
If you like that area look to live behind in the springs/ meadows and lakes. Full of expats and lovely villas with plenty o space. Most areas have there own supermarkets and is stocked with more western brands. They normally have health clubs too which are a god send when the warmer weather starts. Ahhh how I miss my Saturday afternoons at the lake club sitting by the pool!
It's easy to get to safa, 20 mins max from this area too.
I have loads more info but its bath time here...back soon
making mama - sounds tough at the moment, but I'm sure given a couple of months down the line you will have settled in well - certainly having a place of your own will help with this. DH did look at a position in Riyadh and I remember seeing that I wouldn't be able to drive at all and thinking how strange that would be, so I can imagine that no car is a pain. I won't have a car in Jordan - too expensive to take one or buy one, so relying on local taxis as apparently are very good & cheap too, but will see how this pans out
Hi, we moved to Switzerland in January so I know how much hand holding is needed before and after the move. Happy to help with my albeit limited knowledge.
I have applied for a job in Switzerland but must admit I don't know what I am doing - not sure if romantic notion or really a good move. I'm interested in knowing all about it as i would be moving 3 young children, 2 dogs and dh would have to pack his job in (he works at a university with 2 part time jobs- one finishes in aug and the other next mar).
I have a house to sell, hear people generally rent, salary if got job would be up to £108,000 pa (Swiss equiv. is this enough to live on?). Place would be Basel so hear living in France an option - what r the taxes? How much is rent? Currently live in the country so would want to find a safe place to live which is fairly rural? How much is childcare? Would my children have a 'better' lifestyle (we live in Scotland?). Relocation is given with job. We do like skiing, can speak a bit of French and would get great experience from the job! Downside is ageing parents, no support network and again a house to sell so not sure it would be easy to get back. Only want to do it for a couple of years. Kids 4, 2 and 8 months. Any advice appreciated!!!
I'm supposed to be moving to Germany in the summer with my 1yr old - but DP is going next week!
Also need to learn German at home as evening classes clash with bedtime.
I agree with whoever said it feels quite abstract - but during moments when it feels real, I get scared!
Miffy I'm just at the other end of where you are now DP went out to Germany last June and with one thing and another (long distance can be tough on relationships too) we're gearing up to move out this summer, so it's been 14 months apart in total.
How long ago did you decide to move to Germany? I felt quite scared at first but now I'm really feeling excited and positive about it. It takes a long time to get your head around something so big, I think. I'm trying to pick some german up at home and will do some beginner's classes but I think it will be easier to learn when I get there (I just want some basic language to help me get a job) - most people seem to speak English over there anyway so it's not completely isolating if you don't speak it straight away.
(Which part of Germany are you moving to?)
We are thinking about a move to South Africa within the next 12 months. DP has started the application process. My main concern is making it work financially & whether it is a terrible thing to do to the kids (age 4 and 1).
Katherine where are you guys going? We moving to Cape Town (hubby from there with a 3year old)
don't know... probably rural KZN. We are both British - although I am entitled to SA citizenship through my dad, so am looking at applying for that. It's a temporary (1/2 years) move, not a permanent one.
Are you moving permanently? Where are you going to live? My cousin recently moved back to CT from London with her husband & DC, & she is loving it.
It's nice to hear she loves it. Do you know where in C? Sorry I'm being curious? (in a way need some reassurance). We will be in the southern suburbs. For the moment not time limit but things do change
Don't know where in CT she is, think it is probably southern suburbs actually! I have family in the Gardens too who are very happy, & family out in Kommetje who like it there too... Have you spent time in CT? It's a beautiful city. We won't be going there as DP is unlikely to get a job there & we fancy a bit more of a challenge
& I don't want to live that close to my family
Hi Bertie, that's a long time to be apart - especially when you've got kids!
DP found out about the job last summer. It's in Berlin. Where will you be?
I've just realised my son will start speaking German - that's motivated me to learn as I don't want them to have chats that I can't understand!
Well we've seen each other about every 2-3 months but currently it's been nearly 4 months which is hard. Berlin is quite far away from where we'll be living - Karlsruhe. It's about 5 hours even on the fast bullet trains. (I have friends in Berlin! ) I haven't done a Karlsruhe - Berlin trip yet.
Wow congratulations for lasting!
I'm not sure I/we would
It's been massively up and down TBH. We nearly split up at one point and because I was so conflicted about whether I really wanted to go or not we put off the move for a while. But it all came together in the end. It helps that we're both quite independent and also have a lot of trust. I also decided to do this English teaching course so it's not like I'm only going out there for him - I now have three reasons, to be with him, because I've always wanted to live in another country and travel with children, and also to teach English which is something I'm now really excited about.
It will be hard figuring out what you want - when DP first went for the job (Back in January of last year!) we had a big talk about it and decided that if we split up over it, then it obviously wasn't meant to be, (probably made it easier that DP is step-dad rather than birth dad) but that we were both excited about the possibility. I think you have to be open minded but also honest with yourself, but it is totally normal to have doubts too. Good luck anyway!
DH has just been offered his dream job in Dubai. Very exciting...but daunting. I know absolutely nothing about it, except that it's very, very hot! Feeling a little overwhelmed with all the information about schools and various areas. Any advice?
It's Binfull here, I've namechanged!
Are you all set for your move? Hope you are excited and happy?
Let me know if you want a little meet-up when you are settled!
Sorry a big wave & Grüezi to all the other "Swissies" too!
I've been in Basel for 2.5 years now, and I'm a working mum. So PM me if you have any questions you think I can help with!
We have an apartment and will be over there start of may. I would love a meet up. I'll pm you.
My general thread chat is that we are in the process of de-cluttering our house and are having a boot sale tomorrow. I must be mad!!
A very good idea! Wish I could have persuaded DH to do the same with his shed, instead of bringing all the rusty stuff he has to our cellar!
Clear out your belongings there, as you can dispose of stuff for free - here it's going to cost you. As I'm sure you've read.
It's a lovely time to be coming, there are plenty of bank holidays coming up, it feels like Spring is trying it's hardest to get here, and I for one, can't wait for the open air pools to open!
Hello. My Dsis is moving to Kuala Lumpa in August - waves at TeddyMummy - as her husband has got a job at an international school. So marking my place for her.
Well, the boot sale was worth it. It was just a couple of hours and we made £100. Which will probably pay for one macdonalds in Switzerland!
How's everybody's plans going?
We've got our packers booked. Not booked flights out to Switzerland yet, but I have booked a trip home from Switzerland this summer!
Everything which didn't sell today is going to charity tomorrow so that's a fab amount of stuff cleared out.
Ah the Starbucks is on you then!
Ha. £100 is probably about right for two coffees and a cake to share!!
We're due to move to Singapore early June. DH is from there and just wants us to try it. He's currently working in Zurich for 3 months before transferring to Asia.
TBH I'm hiding from it a bit. Clueless2727 reading your post made me think I must pull up socks and get things organised.
Well we are finally here!! DH, DD, DS and I arrived in Muscat on Friday 29th March. We are staying in a 2 bed apartment until our container arrives. We did a bit of house hunting the other day and found a villa that we love, planning to move in early May. I got a mobile last night so feeling a bit more connected to the outside world now. It's very early days but I really like it so far. Have met quite a few lovely expat Mums and will be starting to drive soon, as soon as we get a sat nav!!!
Makingmama, have you tried one of the Expat woman coffee mornings? The one in Festival city is really nice (where Ikea is).
I managed my first 18 months here without driving but as so glad to have my own transport now! Are you scared of driving or has your resident permit not come through? You can rent a car as well, but as soon as you have your residents permit you will have to get your UAE licence (very easy!)
The Palm is quite an isolated area. Marina is lovely but just remember that parking for guests is horrid. Especially during the weekend. There are some lovely small compounds around Safa too.
am I too late to join this thread? we are moving to Beijing in a few months (yikes) and its just started sinking in, which is probably why I have been awake since 3am! I wanted to ask how you told the kids, friends etc. we are on the verge if doing this, hopefully over the weekend. the head at school knows but not the teachers. do I let the head tell them or let the kids? and do I let the kids tell their friends or do i tell the parents first? or am I worrying too much? I just want the least amount of upset and the max chance of friends keeping friendly!
Know the feeling, dh signed contract for move to singapore beg july today. We told dc over easter weekend, dd who is 7 is very excited. She wants to tell her friends so i haven't said anything to my friends, the mums as not really my place to tell them not to tell their kids so just haven't been out with them over hols. Guess i will tell them in playground monday. Very strange as been big secret for over 6 months. Also told family over easter, quite a few tears but everyone really supportive and planning visits. I know i'm awake thinking about it most nights, our to-do list is over 2 a4 pages long already
Sorry answering your questionflowerpowergirl we sat dc down and sold idea of living somewhere international, wonderful school, etc. she reacted well. Very excited but also sad at leaving family which i was pleased about shows she fully understands . Her teacher knows as had to do stuff for new school but going to wait until get final confirmation and flights booked before i tell them. Although need to tell ds preschool as they need a terms notice.
clueless, how's it going? we now have draft contract so provided all OK we will tell DC this weekend. fingers crossed! I am bogged down with paperwork - school applications etc. did your DH get legal advice about his employment contract?
I know, we spent all night last night filling out visa forms. Dd was telling someone about her new school today and her face lit up. How old are your dc? Could telling them that they will get tablet so can facetime / skype friends and family back home help sell it. No he didn't, seemed pretty standard, clause about having to pay back some relocation costs if leave within 2 years, but tbh just happy to get contract as took months to sort it out.
i need some hold handing - moving to singapore june 30!
still waiting for dh work to finalise contract but flights are booked, i've resigned and notice has been given on flat so we're off regardless
just need to do about a billion things before we go . have been avidly reading all the brilliant tips on here and so appreciative of everyone sharing their experiences and knowledge.
I agree, some great tips do you have children? how have your family taken the news? I just want to get to the stage of contracts sorted so we can tell friends, kids, schools etc and start the proper preparations. clueless, good idea about tablets. thanks. am going to put together a photo collage for each of them with friends etc and get a 'special' notebook with friends email addresses etc.
my dd is 13 months so not too much to worry about there, our family is very very happy as they are all in Australia so we will be much closer.
am worried about the massive change but very excited at the same time
I agree with the just wanting contracts sorted, bit of a joke really.
Dh got employment pass through today so nothing can stop us going now. Posted on facebook which has definitely made it seem more real. Now really got to get my skates on to do everything. Downloaded a countdown app onto ipad. 74 days until we go
We are off to Malawi! Sort of looking forward to it but won't be able to settle happily until I see children settled happily. DD1 will be going in to Year 2 and loves school at the moment, so I am holding my breath and hope it will be an easy transition for her...
Would be great to see how others are settling in to their various postings as the months unfold!
telling the children about the move tomorrow morning. yikes! after that I guess word will soon get out. wish me luck!
Germany for 2 years. It was fab. Went over intending to work for a week and ended up being there for a good while.
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Just discovered this thread! DH is moving to Dubai in June and Dd and I will be following at the end of August! Excited but petrified!
We have been in Perth two and a half months now, moving into a long term rental next week, loving it so far, especially my son who hated school in Ireland but loves it here.
Guerillacrochet - poor you that sounds pretty awful. where are you living? we come out in September and I def see my job as making friends for us all but how to do it? why not post a new thread on living oversees as I know there are other MN'ers in Beijing. maybe they can give you some tips. have you tried any of the expat websites for clubs/meeting up opportunities? good luck, I hope it all improves for you.
Thanks flowerpowergirl for the words of support :-). I feel a bit better today, less hassle from the big boss so far this week. I think because I'm here for work it is the big support network for me, and when it is bad at work I feel really lost at sea! I think I need to get my UK office involved a bit in terms of support as I haven't had any HR stuff here, haven't had language training etc etc. I think I needed to get to that point of feeling low to pull my socks up and work out a plan for coping. Your idea of another thread is a good one, thanks I'll put something out there. I haven't lived abroad before so
I'm in Central Park, which is in the CBD.
duh accidentally posted there!
Anyway I was saying I haven't lived abroad before so maybe that's why I'm finding it hard to make new friends- lots of the women I've spoken to have been on multiple postings and seem used to the upheaval and more adaptable than me. Or maybe it is the usual front that people put on until they get to know you and the barriers come down. We're going to a newcomers network meeting next week so maybe that will help.
Good luck with all the preparation! If you have any questions about the stuff you need feel free to ask or PM me.. I know I sounded a bit needy and neurotic in my last email but I am normally quite sane
I posted upthread. We are in the process of planning a move, but I accidentally got shortlisted for a job which we would stay for - IF I get it. So feeling all a bit on hold at the moment.
somuchtosortout Malawi! I love Malawi. Whereabouts are you going? We are thinking about a move to South Africa & the ability to travel around the region is a big pull for us. Are your DC excited about the move?
Guerrillacrochet good luck settling in, it's always hard at first. I know it's a challenge but you have to seize every opportunity to make friends with both hands - most other expats have been in your situation & will be open & friendly. I hope you feel more settled soon.
moving to Brunei in August with DH and ds 15 months old - scary but very exciting, have so much to think about don't know where to start!
KD, how's the move going?
Guerrillacrochet, how's it going? We now have school places for September and medicals booked. Removal people come next week so all starting to feel a bit more real. Is there anything I should be stocking up on that you can't get there? Hope you've met a few people now?
Hi flower. I'm feeling a bit more settled now, thanks for asking. The ogre seems to have gone off to pester someone else so work is back to being good . I've also met some RL people via a stitch and bitch group and chatted to some others via Beijingmamas, which is a Yahoo group you might want to join as it's quite handy for background info.
Re things to stock up on top of my list at the moment is suncream as they don't seem to do big bottles here, if you're here next summer then it might be good to have some in preparation. I had a marmite crisis that is now solved and also tea (in China, who knew!) is quite expensive in the shops I've been to.
Any kind of cosmetic you might use is bound to be more expensive here so I'd really recommend stockpiling and if you have a big bust (not casting aspersions ) you might want to be stocked up on bras as anything 'substantial' is in short supply. Likewise shoes if, like me, you have bigger feet as the biggest you can usually get here is a 39 without a hunt.
Re kids I don't know how big your DC are but if you have a baby you'll already know about the milk formula issues here- a container is an eye-watering 35-40 quid here- thank god DD is now on cow's milk!
Oh and I'd gorge of cheese to the point of being sick of it before you come as it costs more here (although there is an abundance of pizza, so mozzarella is okay!).
Re books etc you can't buy kindles here but you can download books. Also Amazon UK apparently deliver for a very reasonable price but I haven't tried it yet.
Will see if I can think of anything else, but to be honest the domestic side is fine... just missing my family/pals and a bit pissed off with the air here (it was AQI 320 this morning, which is v, v high... so air purifiers will be a must!)
Hi everyone, I've finally got internet so can join in this thread again!
We've been in Dubai for a month now and so far I'd say it's going well. DS1 has settled brilliantly into his new school and made lovely friends and both boys are so happy at being able to go swimming everyday!
I have met a few people, slight difficulty in that it seems 99% of kids over 2 are in nursery so any toddler groups aren't that suitable for boisterous 3 year old DS2! He starts pre-school in September though so hoping to be able to meet more people through there or being able to go to coffee mornings etc.
Any Dubai mums in this thread fancy meeting up?? Just pm me if you want some company with a fellow newbie!!
hey guerilla, just wondering how things are going? my dh flies out in just over 3 weeks so v busy here doing jobs and getting organised before he goes then I am on my own with kids until we fly out in sep. all systems go! BTW thanks for the tips.
I started this thread but have been useless at updating.
We moved over about five weeks ago and it's going ok so far. I've been incredibly busy, which I think it a good thing.
Only a few moments of intense home sickness so far!!
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I'm a week into our South Korea move and so far so good....it's not Dubai but ill cope
Dubai ladies, having lived there for four years I'm happy to help with any questions
Hi Barbie, glad to hear the move has gone well.
Mine is looming closer and closer...
A latecomer, but can I join? Moving to Hong Kong in Sept, haven't told family yet. Reading all your experiences with interest as have such similar thoughts!!
hi all. we now have 4 weeks before the big move to Beijing. DH has been there for 3 weeks and he is coming back home so we can fly out together. can't wait to see him, we have never been apart for so long. any last minute advice before we go? I seem to be spending all my time saying goodbye to people. it's quite exhausting!
Four weeks of goodbyes, Flower? That sounds emotionally exhausting!
We moved on Saturday. DS is being quite hard work - teething and separation anxiety. It must be odd for him not just being in a new country but suddenly having daddy back after four months with just a few weekends and a couple of week-long visits.
So after a fortnight with Daddy around (last week in London, first in Germany), on Monday he's back to work and DS starts nursery settling in.
I'm dreading having to look after him alone next week, even though I've been fine on my own for the last four months!
Oh my goodness, four weeks of goodbyes! We spent two weeks saying our goodbyes, it almost finished me off!
We have been in Perth almost six months and still love it, although I cant wait for the hot weather to come back, Aussie houses are freezing in winter!
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