WHERE'S BEST TO LIVE IN NZ ETC :PART 6!!!

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AngryBeaver Mon 18-Feb-13 18:23:37

Wow! Part 6...got to be a record.

MN Towers, where's our prize?!

lollystix Mon 18-Feb-13 19:04:50

Marking my spot.

I might be getting cats. DH has relented. Now just got to persuade landlord who said it was ok when I talked about 1 that 2 is ok.

WhatSheSaid Mon 18-Feb-13 19:06:49

Marking my place.

thelittlestkiwi Mon 18-Feb-13 19:46:36

I'm jealous lolly. DH says he is still sad about losing our last one.

frikonastick Mon 18-Feb-13 19:49:25

Yes, where is our prize!?

vvviola Mon 18-Feb-13 20:07:58

Marking my place smile

xMinerva Mon 18-Feb-13 20:25:29

I want wine.

(Again, I'm so very sorry vvv, I'd blame AB for keeping me locked in the basement, but feel that wouldn't be very fair)

I'm not ignoring any of you btw, I'm just on very very limited Internet. As in none so I'm using 3G. I'll pop in occasionally but won't be able to post much until we pay the bill get Internet back.

AngryBeaver Tue 19-Feb-13 00:52:08

Prize, prize, prize!grin

WhatSheSaid Tue 19-Feb-13 01:09:16

How is the rental search going AB?

theartfulsoapdodger Tue 19-Feb-13 02:01:09

Hey, new thread, I'll stop lurking and take the plunge...

Hi all, I met some of you at ellerslie soft play with my 4 year old just after Justabout arrived in akl, now have 4 month old twins to add to my already too large family! Look forward to chatting smile

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vvviola Tue 19-Feb-13 05:34:46

~waves at theartfulsoapdodger~

4 month old twins. Lovely! Lucky you. isn't broody at all, not even a little bit, well maybe just a teeny bit...

No worries at all xMinerva, happens to the best of us!

I nearly got a kitten the other day, two of them in fact because they were identical to my old cat. Thankfully sense prevailed grin

frikonastick Tue 19-Feb-13 05:57:09

I think we found a house! From the very limited pool of rentals that will allow us to have a dog....... It's the right sort of size, in a lovely lovely road in an area called Matua literally a stones throw from the park and the beach. It's all woody inside, which I don't like but it doesn't matter as I will just hang every painting we have and hope I stop seeing the walls! But most excellently of all, it has a huge garage and I have always always always wanted my very own workshop, now it looks like I will get one! Yaaaay! But we haven't been given the green light just yet, landlord has to approve us, hopefully tomorrow. And then we can move in on the 1st march. Am going to see if there's a link to it.....

WhatSheSaid Tue 19-Feb-13 05:57:25

I was thinking "4 month old twins! Eek! Not broody at all!" grin. I'm sure they're lovely of course....

frikonastick Tue 19-Feb-13 06:00:56
frikonastick Tue 19-Feb-13 06:03:15

It's very woody isn't it. <wibbles>

WhatSheSaid Tue 19-Feb-13 06:26:04

Ooh, big house and near the sea! some Nz houses are just very woody, it's not that unusual.

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theartfulsoapdodger Tue 19-Feb-13 06:42:51

Haha, too bloody fertile - the twins are hard work but gorgeous, honest! (And thanks justa, I'm not very lovely currently though, with Not-at-all-DH working overseas, I'm a screaming banshee some most of the time)

WhatSheSaid Tue 19-Feb-13 06:45:18

artfulsoapdodger Are you getting that extra govt help for mums of multiples? Some friends of mine with twins used it for cleaners/babysitters etc.

theartfulsoapdodger Tue 19-Feb-13 06:46:08

Ooh nice house! Very woody, true, but at least the bathrooms are nice. Very important in a rented house where you can't change things IMHO.

vvviola Tue 19-Feb-13 06:55:43

Frik - I reckon you'll be a lot less worried about the woodiness of it once there's some furniture in it. I think it's lovely.

Theartfulsoapdodger, I can imagine twins must be hard work. But still, how lovely grin you must come and meet up with us some day. And if it's one of my child-free days, I'll even assist in twin cuddling any excuse to cuddle a teeny baby grin

theartfulsoapdodger Tue 19-Feb-13 06:59:17

Yes I got the grant to pay for a nanny over the summer as my son was still under 5, gosh WINZ are fun to deal with. But it was good to get the help, don't think I'd have got that in the uk!

theartfulsoapdodger Tue 19-Feb-13 07:03:34

Aw thanks vvviola, I'll look forward to it! Definitely up for meetups before the twins start running off in opposite directions

WhatSheSaid Tue 19-Feb-13 07:14:32

Yes my friend used the twin grant to employ someone to come and sit with her twins while she went round the supermarket/shops for a couple of hours a week. She said being able to to just walk round by herself now and again kept her sane!

theartfulsoapdodger Tue 19-Feb-13 07:22:00

Yes it's an absolute lifesaver, I'm managing more time to myself this time than with my single babies (since I express for them mostly, tandem bf way too hard!) so I am still mostly sane!

thelittlestkiwi Tue 19-Feb-13 07:27:43

Artful- have you come across the multiple births club?

AngryBeaver Tue 19-Feb-13 08:04:19

Sorry xminerva, missed that!

The hunt for a rental is not going well at all. Getting anxious.

frick huiose looks great, yes, woody, but meh! So what, it's big and a good price.

It's funny, Matua is where we wanted to live and where looking for houses in that area. It's lovely. I think I prefer that to Papamoa! Lucky you!

Hi, artful...am exceedingly envious of your big family. I would love twins smile but totally get they must be exhausting.

lollystix Tue 19-Feb-13 08:16:22

Artful - congrats on your twins. What flavour? (and what fun/noise/mess/chaos).

Are you from the 'Weege' by any chance with a name like that?

I'm getting twin boys from lonely miaow and am very excited.

28 degrees last night apparently - not sure I believe that.

AngryBeaver Tue 19-Feb-13 09:07:15

lolly, it says 27 in our house...I am frigging BOLING!! I believe it!

xMinerva Tue 19-Feb-13 09:33:04

Been called in for 2nd interview for this job tomorrow. Just painted my nails to celebrate grin

Hi art sorry can't stay and chat (reason up ^ ^ thread) but hope to meet you soon if I remember to turn up

House looks fab frik

Bye again.

AngryBeaver Tue 19-Feb-13 09:45:22

Good luck!!

lollystix Tue 19-Feb-13 10:27:25

Good luck X!

Sibble Tue 19-Feb-13 18:19:24

Good luck ps what's the job - you've probably said and I've missed it.

DizzyHoneyBee Tue 19-Feb-13 18:32:35

Lovely house, especially the size of that bathroom. I would love a bathroom big enough for a bookshelf and a comfy chair smile

xMinerva Tue 19-Feb-13 21:48:42

In McD's scoffing breakfast at the moment while boys in play area so using their wifi.

Job, just retail. Ziera Shoes? Like Clarkes for adults. Hours are perfect though.

Hoping Home Grown Kids get back to me pretty sharpish.

Thanks everyone.

frikonastick Tue 19-Feb-13 23:36:52

Thanks guys! Yes it is big, bigger than our last house by a little bit. But it was that or a house so much smaller we would have to store almost half our stuff, which seemed crazy. So! Now we wait with baited breath to see if the landlord says yes! We negotiated on the rent (don't get if you don't ask, right?) and they called this morning to say the landlord wanted more info on the dog, and now we wait.....

Sorry I haven't even said hi to artful yet! <waves> and Xminerva good luck :-) AB, I feel you on renting, it's really stressful isn't it. But, you will come good too, you will see. I realize as I type this that I am being very sure the landlord will say yes, and maybe I shouldn't be counting my chickens!

Lolly, I am wearing a jumper! And it says 23 here at the mo. My blood is hopelessly thinned by years in the ME.

Oh.my.gosh. I live in NZ !!!!!!! grin

WhatSheSaid Wed 20-Feb-13 00:13:06

Oh if you're wearing a jumper now you may find NZ houses in winter quite a shock frik - many don't heat up/retain heat very well. That house is in a nice spot though.

frikonastick Wed 20-Feb-13 01:12:01

Yes. It's the one thing I have been the most nervous about! But I am hopeful that by the time it's really proper cold I will have acclimatised a bit. The house has heat pumps and a wood burning fire, so fingers crossed it will be ok! I did stock up on loads of lush blankets for the sofas and ends of beds.......

xMinerva Wed 20-Feb-13 01:18:15

Completely jealous of wood burning fire envy

In other news, guess who's just been offered a job? grin

So bloody excited, going to see an educator from Home Grown Kids on Friday morning. Looks like everything is falling into place.

Sibble Wed 20-Feb-13 01:46:48

Congratulations. I know the shop (well the Botany branch anyway!) although I've only bought in the sale...

frikonastick Wed 20-Feb-13 01:48:57

Yay! Well done :-)

theartfulsoapdodger Wed 20-Feb-13 01:58:18

Congratulations on the new job! Hope the childcare works out for you.

Hi to everyone who said hi to me! Hope to meet some of you before too long.

Lollystix - my twins are boys, and ultra cute for now and no I'm an ex-Londoner (very happy to be ex!)

Littlest kiwi - haven't got round to the multiple birth club yet, I should really, they have a twin playgroup so may do that once they're on the move.

Can I just ask, if anyone's local supermarket still has the S26 gold formula liquid version on the shelves (4x250ml cartons) PLEASE tell me and I'll drive anywhere in Auckland to get it. Apparently they're changing the packaging, don't have the new stocks yet, and I can't be arsed with dealing with the powdered stuff in the meantime. Cheers! smile

WhatSheSaid Wed 20-Feb-13 02:43:10

Congratulations xminerva!

Artfulsoapdodger do you ever get online shopping from Countdown? They are selling that brand of liquid formula on their website (in fact it's on special) so you could get an online order and include some. I think all the online orders are packed in their Grey Lynn store (Richmond Rd), not sure how far that is from you.

theartfulsoapdodger Wed 20-Feb-13 04:22:57

Tried that, but when I log in it says not available for delivery, only for pickup from a few stores outside Auckland, and I'm not driving all the way to Tauranga for it! More likely to be in PaknSave I think, I've never see it in New World.

Sorry for the dull conversation blush

vvviola Wed 20-Feb-13 05:05:36

Theartfulsoapdodger - oh no! Up until about a month ago I had 8 cartons of that I could have given you! I got it as standby for DD2 before she was diagnosed with her allergies & never used it. I only recently gave it to the Plunket nurse in case anyone was in need and could use it.

I got it in Countdown in Browns Bay so will check next time I'm there if they still have it.

xMinerva - congrats!! I thought of looking at retail for a part time job myself, but being terminally fashion challenged I don't think they'd have me grin

vvviola Wed 20-Feb-13 05:40:31

Oh sod it. DD2 has reacted to something. Face has all gone puffy & blotchy. She's had nothing unusual or different except soy yoghurt (we'd avoided soy yoghurt & formula for a while because we thought she didn't like it, we still give her soy in stuff with no problems, so decided to re-try her on the yoghurt )

So unless there was cross contamination it looks like we may now have to completely exclude all soy too... hmm

Just when we thought we had a handle on the allergies hmm

(Sorry. Rant over.)

frikonastick Wed 20-Feb-13 07:59:12

We got the house grin

DH fed up with me because for some reason I put the wrong dates in and instead of moving in on the 1st march, we are due to move in of the 23rd feb. so now mad panic because we need to buy a fridge and washing machine and bed for DD and tell the motel we need to cancel days. Oh well!

Sorry about DD2 vvv, maybe there was something else in the yogurt that she reacted to? Allergy can really suck can't they

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WhatSheSaid Wed 20-Feb-13 18:24:07

frik if you're rushing out to buy fridges etc, check the Salefinder website, one of the big stores always seems to have a sale on big ticket items

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frikonastick Wed 20-Feb-13 19:26:04

Thanks for the tip guys

And justa, come on over! Not that we have any furniture......... Um actually as I am typing that I am thinking, bloody hell, we don't actually have any furniture!! Lol, I guess DH is going to get his shopping spree at the camping store after all grin

Sibble Thu 21-Feb-13 00:12:53

The Good Guys is also good for electrical goods. Be prepared to barter and don't be put off by the cash only signs. I paid for my fridge freezer, oven and dishwasher on credit card and paid a substantial amount less than any other quotes I'd had.

theartfulsoapdodger Thu 21-Feb-13 05:24:46

Thanks vvviola. They seem ok on the powdered stuff so I'll just have to be more organized about making it...sorry to hear about your DDs allergies, what a pain.

Congrats on the house Frik! We managed without much furniture for several months, although we did buy new beds here. Moving in sooner will be good if hectic; we arrived on a Tuesday and moved in Saturday, had been dreading weeks in a motel!

vvviola Fri 22-Feb-13 08:06:01

I tell you, there are days where I wouldn't live anywhere else....

Gorgeous weather, DH finished up work early, took us all down for a picnic (well, we brought burgers and buns and salad, and picked up some take away chips) at Long Bay, then down to the water where the girls splashed around like loons.

I'll never get all the sand out of the car and the bathroom grin

(Less fun, was DH having to fish a toddler out from under the water. Little guy was knocked over by a wave just as his Mum had looked away, luckily DH spotted him.)

AngryBeaver Fri 22-Feb-13 10:35:32

vvv, just beautiful, isn't it?

Yesterday a friend was called into the dr's to be told her dd, had a"long road ahead of her" Things are not right.
I saw my friend in town today adn she looked shattered.

Makes you grateful for what you have.

What money can't buy.

AngryBeaver Fri 22-Feb-13 10:47:24

Fuck, sorry, maudlin. Blame the wine.
What do you think of this

http://www.trademe.co.nz/property/residential-property-to-rent/auction-562486383.htm

It says 2 bedrooms, but I count 4?
I would feel uncomfortable though, I much prefer rustic to modern.

Still, we are having no luck finding anywhere and move in 4 weeks. STRESS

AngryBeaver Fri 22-Feb-13 10:48:04
vvviola Fri 22-Feb-13 11:44:31

Ooh, AB, that's a very swish looking place. Yes, I count 4 bedrooms too. Although I think the estate agent said to us when we were looking that it could only be advertised as a bedroom if it had a wardrobe??? Might explain the discrepancy?

Is there the potential to stay somewhere else (I.e. off Waiheke) temporarily if you don't find somewhere in time.?

vvviola Fri 22-Feb-13 11:55:18

(Yet another random question from me)

Do you guys leave fans on overnight?

It's really stuffy in DD2's room and the fan also seems to be helping with white noise.

I've been turning off the fan when I go to bed because I hate leaving electrical stuff on overnight. But the room is so hot, and se invariably wakes within 2 minutes of turning it off What would you guys do?

AngryBeaver Fri 22-Feb-13 21:18:44

Dh thinks there is no way that place is $500 a week, he is probably right!
No we need to be on Waiheke,the kids are enroled at the primary now and are due to start!

Yes, we leave fans on in every room, unbearable without, I check on threm several times a night

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thelittlestkiwi Sat 23-Feb-13 06:12:09

Those look like marketing photo's AB. My general rule was that a house would rent for 1/1000th of it's market value. So one of our rentals was $850,000 to buy and we paid $850 a week to rent it.

Have to say, I'm feeling a lot better about our food bills since the horse crisis in the UK......

lollystix Sat 23-Feb-13 10:17:02

Wow littlest - ours is 0.5/1000th - reflects that it's a tad 'rustic'. But I do have lovely landlords who cut the grass and let me get 2 new fluffy baby boys today.

kiwidreamer Sat 23-Feb-13 16:16:27

We've had great success with White Noise apps, free from iTunes not sure about android apps tho. DD loved the oscillating fan white noise when she was unsettled, def saves on the electricity but obv useless if you need cool air... we leave the fan on with a timer to the wee hours (on the 3 nights a year its too hot to sleep)

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frikonastick Sat 23-Feb-13 20:00:20

AB that house looks beautiful, but I agree with thelittlestkiwi, I think those are marketing photos and maybe the house is on at $500 a week because they may kick you out as soon as they have a buyer. The one house we looked at renting that was by far the nicest presented and we thought very good for the rent, when we asked (information not volunteered!!!) it was indeed on the market.

I still ant quite believe we really live here, so far it's been picnics and beach days and fishing trips and soccer matches and BBQs we are just having the most wonderful time :-) honestly guys, I was SO STRESSED before we actually came over and what a waste of emotion that was! Lol

And this morning, again, beautiful day! Even if I do have to go do a load of laundry grin

xMinerva Sat 23-Feb-13 20:07:07

Congrats on the house frik how exciting. It is rather lovely too, and great location it seems.

Hope dd2 is better now vvv ds2's hideous bum rash came back so we've cut out dairy again and it's cleared up. Going to introduce it again slowly and see if it was coincidence or not. Hope it was.

We're doing much better with our food bills now. Menu planning is fab. $130-$150per week now with about $50ish for milk/bread top ups. Much better than the $4/500 per week we were paying before. All the horse jokes on FB have been cracking me up.

We have built in fans but don't think I'd worry about a plug in one being on all night with a few checks.

thelittlestkiwi Sat 23-Feb-13 20:32:21

Ha ha Lolly. If only all of ours had been nice! Tbh, it is entirely my own made up rule. I think agents price on number of bedrooms. Yours may be odd cos it's on a lot of land?

We leave fans on overnight. Also our cheap warehouse rads in winter which are probably a bigger hazard.

frikonastick Sat 23-Feb-13 22:10:37

Xminerva, could you possibly share your menus plans? I used to do it in the ME but I don't know brands and things here so a start off point would be great. But only if you don't mind.

Yes! Spent the day at the house yesterday, we haven't moved in yet as all the appliances and DDs bed only get delivered on Monday, and we totally love it. You were all right and I don't even notice the woodiness already grin

Oh my gosh, I can't believe we live in New Zealand, in a house by the beach!!! Surely that's just too much good fortune for one family. Today is laundry and packing day, and also shopping for bins (OMG with the recycling, we haven't ever done it before) and bed linen and a kettle! I just realized we don't have a kettle! <adds to list>

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frikonastick Sat 23-Feb-13 23:00:11

Ahem <sidles up> justa, I don't suppose you have any meal plans do you?

frikonastick Sat 23-Feb-13 23:00:56

Oh! Well, DH is just there getting a kettle I think, will I call him and tell him not to?

frikonastick Sat 23-Feb-13 23:21:37

To late! Never mind, kettle only has to work for a month until container arrives :-)

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WhatSheSaid Sun 24-Feb-13 02:24:00

We don't use fans in the evening or at night either.

Wow AB that Waiheke house is great. Lovely views.

We have some convection heaters from the Warehouse that are still working fine after a few years... not saying they'll last for ever of course.

We spend about $200 a week on food.

Been up north since Thursday which has been amazing. No shouty neighbours like littlest but lots of paddling, boogie boarding, rockpool exploring, sand dune sledging and dd1 worked out how to stand up and balance on her boogie board in the water (and I took about a million photos of her doing so)

vvviola Sun 24-Feb-13 06:26:23

Menu planning starts again here this week. Partly for the cost (it was so so expensive when my folks were here, not being able to just chuck stuff on the table & say "like it or lump it") and partly to do something about the size of my & DH's waistlines!

xMinerva - DD2 fine, thanks. Other than a day or two of cramps & funny tummy she never seems particularly put out by these episodes. Last time she got hives on her arm she was busy pointing at them & going "dis" (aka: what are these?) grin

AB: we were down your way today and I gave you a mental wave as we went through town. Was a pleasant day, but oy, 4 hours driving to have a picnic in a park with MIL & 20 minutes at her house. hmm

thelittlestkiwi Sun 24-Feb-13 07:03:07

WSS- did you go to Te Paki? We went but I was too tight to pay $15 each for the board when DD would last 10 mins anyway. She's told everyone at nursery she went to the desert and they all think she is bonkers.

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vvviola Sun 24-Feb-13 07:21:03

Oh no justa, I could have warned you about the warehouse for knitting stuff!

Spotlight is the only option really for that sort of stuff (although if she still has time here to want to do some more knitting, just give me a shout saying what she needs & I'll see if I have it in my wooldrobe smile)

WhatSheSaid Sun 24-Feb-13 07:28:21

littlest. No we were at Mangawhai Heads, there are some biggish dunes there and the bach we were in had a sledge that we used.

xMinerva Sun 24-Feb-13 07:41:48

Been down to Rotorua today, csme accross a place called Paradise Valley Springs Wildlife Park. got to pat lion cubs. grin

still not home yet as we travelled a bit further than planned lol.

This weeks menu

Sunday Roast Chicken etc
Monday Chicken/Mushroom pie with leftover chicken
Tuesday Spag Bol (made with half a 8/900g pack
Wednesday Jacket Potatoes with tuna/beans & Cheese
Thursday Lasagne (with other half of mince)
Friday freezer tea, this week fish portions, mash, mixed frozen veg
Saturday Homemade pizza (just buy bases and use up any leftover cold meat/veg in fridge.

I buy 6 tins of chopped toms, put in large pan on the job and add frozen onion, garlic, black pepper, mixed herbs and a couple large handfuls of mixed frozen veg. Once cooked through, I blitz it all in the blender. That makes enough sauce for 3 meals so this week, the spag Bol, lasagne & pizza bases.

Only buy fresh veg on offer, this week I got 4 large corn on the cobs for $2. Along with carrots, green beans and a head of broccoli for .99c. I always keep a huge bag if mixed frozen veg in too.

I've also been buying large packs of porridge and making flapjacks for treats along with fairy cakes, jelly (one pack makes about 8 little individual pots if you add some berries in with it)

Naval Oranges are featuring in our menu a lot at the moment as they're cheap.

xMinerva Sun 24-Feb-13 07:43:50

Sorry bout typos, typing in dark while driving.

xMinerva Sun 24-Feb-13 07:44:29

NO, not while I'm driving, I'm typing in the dark, dp is driving. blush

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xMinerva Sun 24-Feb-13 08:30:25

Your menu sounds lovely justa

I'd love to use lentils to bulk out mince a bit more but dp hates them, can't stand the texture. Homemade soup is a good one to use leftover veg up, we do that quite often. Never used mung beans and tbh I've only really started "proper" cooking since ds1 started weaning so I'm not really any good at the whole spices (getting the right ones together etc) without following a recipe. Good recipes seem to use loads of expensive ingredients though so we stick with good old tried and tested food with an experimental one once a fortnight or something.

I did once make a gorgeous lentil Dahl but dp had to make himself something seperate so kinda defeats the object of being cheap lol.

xMinerva Sun 24-Feb-13 08:33:31

Ps: we've had 3 toasters since we've been here. 2 expensive ones and a cheapy one from warehouse, the cheapy one is the only one still working.

thelittlestkiwi Sun 24-Feb-13 08:36:13

I love this Jamie recipe for chili- uses chickpeas and beans and lots of veg so reasonable healthy and cheap. One pack of mince does us 3 meals.

www.jamieoliver.com/recipes/beef-recipes/good-old-chilli-con-carne

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vvviola Sun 24-Feb-13 08:59:01

Ooh, I'm taking notes. grin

I'm so jealous of seeing lasagne on the menu. I love lasagne, and had perfected a really nice one. But with dairy off the menu... hmm I keep planning to experiment with oat milk for a white sauce, but I do worry that it's absolutely vile, there'll be a huge waste of food.

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xMinerva Sun 24-Feb-13 09:54:10

I'm sure I posted again.

I was going to suggest rice milk too. We used it for white sauce when dairy free, it wasn't great but it wasn't horrible.

Thanks for book rec justa looks fab.

AngryBeaver Sun 24-Feb-13 10:16:22

Loads of good menu ideas.
Mine:
Mon: dino shaped pasta with homemade tom/veg sauce (courgettes etc from veggie garden) and pepperoni.

Tue: cod in breadcrumbs (from freezer ) and peas and broccoli

Wed : pizza night. I make my own base, it's SOOOO easy. Get back of plain basics flour, scoop out a cup, rub in some olive oil, then add some lukewarm water and mix to a dough. You don't even have to let it rise, although it's prob better if you put in a covered bowl for a bit.
and that's it! I use the leftover sauce from mon and either do just pepperoni and cheese or ham and pineapple.

Speaking of ham frick we buy a big cooked ham, and carve it up into lots of bits, sort into freezer bags and freeze. Works out cheaper.

thurs :maybe chicken and toms and cucumber (veggie garden again) nd bread rolls.

fri: dh and I will have chicken curry and chapatti, the kids will have spag bol.

sat: usually a barbie, I make homemade burgers, filled out with breadcrumbs and flour.

sun: maybe lentil soup with bacon butties

Other things I chuck in are chicken(on special) wrapped in bacon, with beans and mash.

And cottage pie (don't use that much meat) is always a winner, I pad that out with loads of carrots and onion and gravy made with oxo and cornflour.LOADS of mash and cheese ontop.

Also get breakfast sausages from Pak n Save whe non special, and do with Countdowns Basic hotdog rolls

Sibble Sun 24-Feb-13 18:38:09

Love sharing mealplanners:

This week is likely to be:

Sunday -Pot roast pork, carrots, green beans, mash (not very summery but very over salads)
Monday - left over pork pasta (if not heaps of meat I add tin of mixed beans)
Tuesday - fish, salad and boiled pots or home made chips (boys and dh caught fish at weekend)
Wednesday - spag bol (cook batch and freeze half)
Thursday - fish rissoto (more fish caught at weekend)
Friday - this week dss are both going away for weekend so dh and I will probably have fish salad (buy some mussels to go with caught fish)
Saturday - out this week otherwise probably chicken, corn and salad

ds1 hates meat and ds2 hates fish so have to mix it up during the week. Last week we had chilli beans and rice one night, sweetcorn fritters and salad on Friday, are eating heaps of corn on the cob (which I have also frozen - boil for 7-9 mins, throw in ice for 7-9 mins) then freeze - fingers crossed this will work - I was buying 8 for $3 so have done 24, figure I will lose $9 if it doesn't work)

AngryBeaver Sun 24-Feb-13 19:09:09

Worth a try sibble, good idea. How goes the job hunt?

Can I just say, looking back at mine, it seems really stodgy!
They do eat tons of veg and fruit, too!

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frikonastick Sun 24-Feb-13 19:28:37

Wow guys! You all totally rock! Thanks for putting those up, huge help, now if you can tell me what ingredients you buy and where.......... Lol

We move into the house today!

xMinerva Sun 24-Feb-13 19:34:06

I need to mix up our meals more.

Last week it was quite a lot of lighter meals.

Chicken Caesar salads
Fajitas
Egg, homemade chips and peas
Veggie stirfry's etc

Need to mix lighter meals with more heavier meals.

Taking boys to childminder (at-home educator?) tomorrow then start work on Wednesday. Doing wed/thurs/sat this week then onto normal hours of tues/thurs/sat. Nervous but excited.

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xMinerva Sun 24-Feb-13 20:16:30

Anyone know what I need to do to stop claiming my 20ece through Kindy and transfer them to new childcare?

Sibble Sun 24-Feb-13 20:27:08

Agree, it's the lunchbox treats that are expensive. I do quite a bit of baking and have started to bake and freeze - I was very sceptical but the banana cake worked well. Everything else I only buy when on special and freeze it (bread, meat etc..), we also do the home kill whole beast thing. I buy seasonal fruit and veg from local markets or use Fruit World (only buy what you need or it goes off really quickly) (we're in the process of planting our veggie garden, has needed quite a bit of work getting it ready - the boys are growing everything from seedlings)

My fruit/veg bill is a killer though as we all eat heaps of it but I guess I shouldn't complain about them eating fruit!

Sibble Sun 24-Feb-13 20:30:07

AB dh has an interview today and tomorrow a 4th and hopefully final interview for the job he has been chasing - funnily it's a UK company building here under the Australasian arm of the business. They are flying 2 over from the UK for this interview. They flew somebody in from Oz for the 2nd one. Fingers crossed, seems a lot of trouble to then turn around and say - no sorry!

xMinerva Sun 24-Feb-13 22:49:43

Good luck to your dh sibble It does sound promising.

Lunch box treats are what made our food bill through the roof but changed that now so they don't have any pre-packaged food in there anymore. Mini packs of rice cakes/salami sticks/fruit bars all really expensive.

Ds1's Kindy lunches have consisted of something like Half a sandwich with tuna/sweetcorn, a pot of fresh veg, last week carrot and green beans, some fruit, blueberries/grapes and a small treat so a square of home made flapjack or something. Morning teas and snacks have been fruit/yogurts/cheese or chicken cocktail sausages. I buy large packs of cheapy raisins/dried apricots and split them into seperate containers myself.

Been spending quite a bit in K-Mart on their Klip Lock tubs but they really are very useful.

AngryBeaver Mon 25-Feb-13 00:12:03

You will be great xminerva!

frick I totally know where you're coming from, I was a bit lost in the supermarket until recently,really! You do no thatthings are usually priced per kilo, unless they say ea?

I bake everthing treatwise. Just made some hokey pokey biscuits, yummy.

They also get water biscuits/raisins/cherry toms/strips of cucumber.
I think once you have the ingredients, you get quite a lot out of them.
As I say, huge bag of bascis flour has lasted me for ages and I use it all the time.You can get the big tubs of spread from pak n save, and a tray of eggs from the dairy.

You're right sibble, it does sound like they have gone to a lot of trouble. Here's hoping smile

WhatSheSaid Mon 25-Feb-13 00:13:16

We never buy pre-packaged snacks things, mine eat lots of fruit and we buy the packs of rice crackers that are about $2 a pack and take a few in a lunchbox when we go out. We sometimes make pikelets/biscuits/muffins etc. For school dd1 has a ham sandwich, 2 or 3 different fruits and a handful of rice crackers. Same every day but she doesn't seem to get bored of it! At the mo I often take something like slices of watermelon to eat on the way back to the car after school.

Our nearest shop is a fruit and veg one, which is handy. Bargains there this morning were halves of watermelon for 99 cents, 3 rockmelons for $5, grapes and apricots for $4 a kilo

WhatSheSaid Mon 25-Feb-13 00:14:50

Meant to ask, AB, have you made any enquiries about that Waiheke house?

xMinerva Mon 25-Feb-13 00:53:04

Wish I could find half water melons for .99c

Love water melons. Cheapest I've seen them (whole) is $4 shock

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Sibble Mon 25-Feb-13 01:59:01

I am off sick from work today - hence the posts! Anyway, I also buy from outlet shops/distributers. e.g. Hellers in Wiri have a shop, sausages, bacon, meats much cheaper than elsewhere. Apparently once the goods have gone out from the main works in a delivery truck they cannot go back into the main store but are sold in the shop - all within date etc... various choice each time. Sausages $3 pack (not cr*p ones), bacon half price, beer sticks for $2 each etc...

There are a few such shops here in the South.

xMinerva Mon 25-Feb-13 02:41:04

Bacon half price sounds good. We don't buy much bacon as it seems really expensive.

Debating buying half a cow and getting the butcher to sort it all into different portions.

Need a chest freezer first.

frikonastick Mon 25-Feb-13 04:05:48

We are in. Fridge and freezer delivered, I got a pigeon pair, so the freezer is seperate on one side and tHe fridge on the other. So I finally have a decent sized freezer and can do a half a cow if I want <holds hands with xinerva > yay! New washing machine plumbed in, it's very cool I feel super fancy.

And justa YES to snacky things being very very dear indeed. Because we have been in the motel we have been buying loads of pre packaged stuff and I was beginning to think bloody hell, we will never afford to live here! But tomorrow (as the fridge and freezer will have cooled down properly) I will do a proper food shop at pak n save and countdown and then see how we go.

DD is delighted with her new hello kitty bedspread, so here's hoping she stays in her own bed first night in the new house :-)

Sibble, good luck to your DH and hope you feel better soon, being sick sucks. AB nothing on a waiheke house?

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AngryBeaver Mon 25-Feb-13 04:43:22

Get well soon sibble.

Am envy of all your new stuff frick...I love stuff, I do! grin

We didn't bother asking about that house, but might be getting this one
www.trademe.co.nz/property/residential-property-for-sale/auction-551207458.htm it's been sold and theyre renting it.
Have to go and check me garlicky tatoes, back in a min!

AngryBeaver Mon 25-Feb-13 04:50:58

lolly, how are the new additions settling in?

Sibble Mon 25-Feb-13 05:50:19

hellers is at 10 Ha Crescent, Wiri 2104
Phone:09-271 0977

Just off Rosscommon Road.

Sibble Mon 25-Feb-13 05:55:39

Sorry, the home kill, we have in the past done our own otherwise we buy from friends.

I can also recommend J R Wholesale Meats 6D Malvern Rd Te Papapa Auckland 1061 (Otahuhu). I havn't been to the shop but have got meat at a very good price from somebody I know who works there, they supply to restaurants so it'c much better quality than Mad Butcher, Pak n Save etc...

I buy everything in bulk and freeze

frikonastick Mon 25-Feb-13 06:21:36

Oh that looks lovely AB! You will need a ride on mower grin

lollystix Mon 25-Feb-13 09:35:29

AB - just come in from work night out (hurrah for Britomart) and little ones are tearing up the house. Still heading from the boys but happy round us. First job was litter tray for me - forgot how crap that is. Only a few week till they venture out.

I feel rubbish - I resort to fruit strings and shapes to fill up lunch boxes. Did make cup cakes this weekend but just eaten 2 myself when I've come in

AngryBeaver Mon 25-Feb-13 09:52:53

lolly...give yourself a break, you work full time!! Yuk to litter tray! Glad your enjoying them. I'd love a pup...well, really I'd love a baby, but a pup wouldbe nice while I wait. I want a french bulldog
www.google.co.nz/imgres?imgurl=http://www.frenchiefever.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/french_bulldog-breed.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.frenchiefever.com/&h=234&w=215&sz=1&tbnid=9r4P_I-2Ty042M:&tbnh=186&tbnw=170&zoom=1&usg=__s6MKV1ZpLtAu4gYX2OEzNIm_ZGg=&docid=tsyKnx0xSl5qPM&itg=1&hl=en&sa=X&ei=RzMrUYLDB6bmmAWkj4DwBw&sqi=2&ved=0CH8Q_B0wCg

fugly!

Have a small problem with Waiheke.
Just read on fb community page that there is a serial Peeping Tom.

In the area of that house.

Dh is leaving me the 2nd week we get there to go to Sydney for a week. I am now very scared.

Sibble Mon 25-Feb-13 18:20:22

hey lolly don't beat yourself up my boys have strings, pretzels, crisps etc in their lunch boxes as well as home baked stuff partly because they are 8 and 13 and want what their friends have and I cave in and partly when I'm working full time (as I am at the moment) and run out of time to bake/run out of baking in the freezer. There's nothing wrong with it. As a cost saving exercise baking is the way to go, but otherwise my boys would love packets in their lunch box every day. In fact ds1 would prefer money for the shop to buy nachos and a can of drink but he can dream on grin

AB peeping toms seem to hang out in quiet places, we have a convicted one who overlooks our bach. I have to remind myself to pull the curtains when I am getting dressed, something I'm not used to doing at we are not overlooked at home unless you count the neighbours cows)

WhatSheSaid Mon 25-Feb-13 18:43:37

Yep, if I had 4 kids and worked full time I'd be buying the easiest food possible. Its just an attempt to keep the spending down because we're on one income at the moment.

xMinerva Mon 25-Feb-13 19:42:03

If I worked full time, we would have easy foods too.

The dc love those mini teddy biscuits, they get those as a treat after swimming, another reason for not buying those fruit strings is because they are banned at Kindy.

I'm only going to be working part time and I'm already planning for convenience for the days I work.

Plus I got a Kenwood chef for Christmas, have to be seen to be using it eh. grin

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vvviola Tue 26-Feb-13 00:29:06

I do (or rather did - this heat isn't really conducive to it!) a lot of baking, but it's mainly allergen-free stuff for DD2 & myself, so poor DD1 rarely gets a look in. Packets & fruit bars for her a lot of them too. I only buy what is on special (and then only if they seem vaguely healthy).

I really wish I was better at baking bread, we seem to go through so much of it.

WhatSheSaid Tue 26-Feb-13 01:04:14

We've got a bread maker vvv which is great, it was a present from a friend who ended up staying with us six weeks while he tried to find an apartment.

Having said that it's great, the dcs of course prefer the cheap white shop bread smile

I'm off to see the Stone Roses tonight! <random>

AngryBeaver Tue 26-Feb-13 01:17:50

Mine prefer shop bought bread too! And I make a decent loaf, awkward buggers!

Made the mistake of tellng kindy ds1's last day and was chatting about how fab they had been and how we'd have to get them a gift etc and she said "ohh, do you know what we really need? Some saws for woodwork, and oh, some of those ear defenders"

I had seen some building blocks in the warehouse on offer for $19 that I was going to get on Wed, when they are slashing the prices even more!

Me and my big mouth

AngryBeaver Tue 26-Feb-13 01:19:24

and ,ew to your peeping tom, sibble. Still, I suppose it could be worse. And at least you know he's there.

WhatSheSaid Tue 26-Feb-13 01:22:24

Oh just get them the blocks anyway. What are they going to do - chase you from the building with saws? They don't have any!

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thelittlestkiwi Tue 26-Feb-13 02:10:54

We've got a breadmaker too. It was a gift from DH even though I don't really like bread I use it to make pizza dough but I don't think making your own bread saves much money. You do know what goes into it though.

DH is planning his next trip overseas and I have made a deal with him that I will have a weekend away on my own first. He has never looked after DD for a whole day singled handed and doesn't quite get why 2 weeks solo is a bit crap. And I almost had a fit.

So, what should I do with my weekend of freedom? I had planned a trip to the beach with a pal but she can't make it now.

xMinerva Tue 26-Feb-13 02:35:07

Ooooo Stone Roses. Have a great time. Is that at the Vector? RHCP's were fab.

PMSL at "What they going to do, chase you out of the building with saws. They don't have any" grin

Flies are pissing me off!

Sibble Tue 26-Feb-13 02:48:10

oooh littlest a weekend on your own - sounds great. I have just booked onto a yoga retreat in April and am sooooo looking forward to it. Am going on my own. If money was no object I would go to Melbourne shopping but back in the real world - a weekend at the beach reading books, going for long walks and drinking wine with a girlfriend would get my vote.

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vvviola Tue 26-Feb-13 03:12:44

Really justa, that much?! Hmmm, may have to look into it a bit more. I have a breadmaker and was teaching myself how to make a sort of sourdough bread before it got too hot. Had got to the stage where my rolls were ok with soup but haven't quite managed anything suitable for sandwiches.

A weekend alone littlest? Bliss grin Back before the incredible non-sleeping, non-bottle taking baby DH used to send me away to a spa overnight for birthdays etc. It was heaven.

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thelittlestkiwi Tue 26-Feb-13 03:37:55

I guess we don't eat much bread- one or two loaves a week tops. Also breadmakers are so flippin expensive here! Ours was 40 GBP and is a decade old. When it dies I'm not sure if I'll be able to justify replacing it.

OH has been away a lot in the last year - over 2 months in total and they have mostly been to Europe. DD will be 4 soon and this will be my second weekend. I don't feel like I can justify going all the way to Oz but am contemplating Welly. It's ages since I travelled on my own!

WhatSheSaid Tue 26-Feb-13 03:53:09

I worked out I'm a bit sad that each bread maker loaf costs about a dollar to make. I could buy a cheap crappy loaf for about $1.50 but a nice loaf would be $3-4. So it saves us quite a bit. I buy one shop loaf a fortnight and make the rest. Machines are expensive (we have a Panasonic too) but ours was a present.

A weekend alone littlest? I'd be tempted to check into a hotel and sleep and watch crap TV all weekend grin. Welly could be good, check out some exhibitions/theatre/gigs?

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thelittlestkiwi Tue 26-Feb-13 04:22:16

I'm a huge fan of rice cookers too. Ours is 25 years old!

I freeze rice and use it to make nasi goreng ayam (fried rice with chicken) which is a great way to pad out a small amount of meat.

What did your Korean help say about freezing rice though justa? I know rice is only safe for 24 hours in the fridge so am quite careful.

vvviola Tue 26-Feb-13 05:47:09

I miss my rice cooker. When I lived in Japan it was one of the things that they had to give you in a furnished apartment in the programme I was on, and it was the first thing that I was shown how to use. grin

I adored it. I'm still not great at cooking rice, but every time I go to buy a rice cooker I hear my mother in my ear saying "why would you buy a rice cooker, all you need is a saucepan. What a waste of money". blush

On the subject of rice, I was picking up a few bits in Countdown today and it looked as though basmati rice was almost twice the price of long grain. Could that be right?? I had both crazies with me so didn't get a chance to look closer.

Am now in panic mode - Friday meeting with course supervisor is looming and I'm changing my mind every 10 minutes about potential thesis topics.

Oh, and another money saver for newspaper buyers - you can get a free 4 week trial of the NZ Herald (code is tryme) delivered to the house.

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vvviola Tue 26-Feb-13 06:40:12

Oh justa, that's a lovely offer, I might just take you up on it. grin

Oh, and is anyone free on Thursday for a coffee? Am child free again - and other than needing to sit down & look at thesis topics at some stage, am free from 9 til 3 grin

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AngryBeaver Tue 26-Feb-13 08:50:22

grin wss
I got one saw and some ear defender. The woman Is aid it to is incredibl forceful...and I am not.
I just said "oh,erm ,right, I'll have a look fro that then"
It's my own fault, I more ore less said I was thinking of getting a gift for kidy was there anything that needed replacing... I had meant something like building blocks, or a Dr.s kit, or something like that! But, she kind of jumped in befrore I could elaborate.
Nevermind.
Think we have got the house, sending deposits tomorrow I think.
Christ it is costing an absoloute fortune to move there.

I have never heard of a rice cooker! Sounds good.
Enjoy your coffee smile

AngryBeaver Tue 26-Feb-13 08:54:31

We are having our going away meal a week next fri, so I tried on some dresses today. I could barely get the zips up and my boobs were under my chin!
Upshot: Body Pump tomorrow

vvv I hope you come to a decision re your thesis, I'm sure you will.
Here, I will help you .

<grabs vvv's shoulders and shakes >
"FOCUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUS!!!!!!!!!!!"

Feel better now?

vvviola Tue 26-Feb-13 09:19:57

Much better AB, thanks grin (maybe xMinerva can lend me those chains when she's done with them & I can chain myself to my computerwink)

Justa - 11 sounds perfect. Shall have 2 hours of either housework or study done by then depending on which I'm procrastinating most on Will you have children with you? Do you want to choose the best location for you?

AngryBeaver Tue 26-Feb-13 09:57:11

Happy to help!

WhatSheSaid Tue 26-Feb-13 19:17:53

I have never used a rice cooker, I just put rice and water in a bowl in the microwave and it cooks in about 20 mins.

On non-rice related matters, the Stone Roses were amazing. Way way better than I expected.

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AngryBeaver Wed 27-Feb-13 00:56:49

Well that's a coincidence, was in the Warehouse today and what did I see on offer...a rice cooker! I wouldv'e got one, but they'd all gone!

thelittlestkiwi Wed 27-Feb-13 02:33:38

Agree- I can cook rice in a pan or microwave after many years of trying. But the rice cooker just does it perfectly every time with no effort and then keeps it hot till you need it. We eat a lot more rice cos of it and I find it works out very cheaply if you buy a sack from an Asian supermarket. I am something of a rice snob these days though.

AB- I'm sure I saw some for $15 in Kmart. Ours is a very basic one. I'd say it is as useful as a toaster.

Did you see the news about the shark attack? Scary!

frikonastick Wed 27-Feb-13 03:01:46

Just bought a car! Kia sportage 2009 am chuffed grin

Also, am now off to buy a rice cooker......

frikonastick Wed 27-Feb-13 04:36:49

And have ended up buying bikes instead

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vvviola Wed 27-Feb-13 08:33:31

Shark attack was scary, wasn't it? So sad.

(11:30 at Windsor park is perfect justa)

AngryBeaver Wed 27-Feb-13 08:41:15

Oh fucking HELL! The shark attack, how scary, that poor man. Ithink they are not sure whether he had a heart attack and then it happened or, the other way around.

AngryBeaver Wed 27-Feb-13 09:37:12

Have just read the herald and watched the news. Above is not the case.
Feel so very sad for the family. sad

This has not helped my deep rooted fear of open water.

Sibble Wed 27-Feb-13 18:42:25

very scary, we have not taken our small boat out recently as we knew there was a shark in the Port Waikato area (same coast). we caught 2 fish last weekend that had been attacked by something very big. Very scary. It's the warm water....

xMinerva Wed 27-Feb-13 19:53:58

Oh god, I hate open water anyway, this doesn't help much. Poor bloke, poor family.

First day at work went really well, forgot how tiring shop work was though, man, me feet were killing when I got home. And I'm doing it all again today. Love it though. grin

Glad you enjoyed the stone roses wss it was you, yes, can't scroll up to see)

Hope you have fun at Windsor. I won't be able to do tues or thurs anymore because of work (that still seems strange to say) Hope to see you soon though.

Have a goo day everyone.

thelittlestkiwi Thu 28-Feb-13 08:45:04

Ugh. I've just had one of those crappy interactions with an older kiwi being racist. 'Too many Asians' in Auckland apparently. Drives me bonkers.

Does this happen to everyone or is it just me? I usually make some comment about the food being better for it. But wish I could come up with something cutting.

lollystix Thu 28-Feb-13 09:13:35

The food is better for it grin. I find it so ironic for a young nation to have such a stromg view of what a 'kiwi' is. We're all immigrants - if you can count 5 generations back apparently you're not confused. I find it really offensive. I also have woman in my office who keeps announcing everything is 'so gay' very loudly. I find this really offensive too - do people not realise?

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xMinerva Thu 28-Feb-13 20:49:31

I've met a couple of people like this.

It annoys me more how the conversation usually starts:

"I have nothing against them, BUT..."

Yes, that but. Argggggg

thelittlestkiwi Thu 28-Feb-13 22:10:43

Her response was that she liked the food just fine.. .. so obviously not very well travelled then.

I remember the same sort of thing happening to me in Glasgow fifteen years ago. I think it is harder to tackle when you are a migrant.

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frikonastick Fri 01-Mar-13 01:25:15

Bought a rice cooker!

And YES to the casual racism. Our next door neighbor said 'oh yes well, once you've settled in a bit we will have to take you through all the nonsense with the Maoris' with an eye roll and grimace. I didn't actually know how to respond so said nothing at all!

Although, funny story....

We got the moving people to come and pack the house up for me, which was a god send. I was delighted. So much so, that I kept referring to this, as 'yay! The packy people are going to come!' Which of course sounds like Paki. I am oblivious to this though, and keep saying it to EVERYONE. On hearing me announce this to yet another group of people, a friend says to me, um aren't they actually all Philippino? And I go yes, STILL not understanding what I am saying. Until DH hears me on the phone saying yay the packy men are coming tomorrow, and he does this slow head shake at me and says, um you do know that you are saying Paki right? I FINALLY get it. Only to realize that the colleague I had JUST BEEN SPEAKING TO on the phone is in fact, Pakistani.

Epic fail.

<takes a bow>

thelittlestkiwi Fri 01-Mar-13 03:02:54

That's hilarious Frik. I think I'd be tempted to post it as a FB status.

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frikonastick Fri 01-Mar-13 09:56:58

Hahahahahahahahaha!

AngryBeaver Fri 01-Mar-13 18:38:01

I think I've spoken about the casual racism before, too. Really awful actually. Dh has his head in his hands in news meetings. He has spoken up before but his laughed down.
The guy that owns the place where Mum is staying told her that Maori are inherently lazy. His bil is a Maori and his neices and nephews hmm Christmas get togethers must be fun!

justs has your mum gone now? I saw your fb post...naughty you!

My mum is going in 10 days. I will miss her so much.
Then with the move to the island on te 15, there is so much change coming.

Oh..and I just found out that ds1 has feckin' WORMS [baulk] Anyone any experience?
I think the whold family has to take a one off medcine. Can you get it over the counter??As it's Sat, the dr's are closed.

(Also, I bet I won't be able to take anything as we are "trying")

So gross, why do we keep getting gross things??
Get rid of nits and get arse parasites! SUCH fun!

AngryBeaver Fri 01-Mar-13 18:42:14

Oh and just a little moan. We are having an early birthday for dd so Granny and her friends from here can come.
I am supposedt to be doing a mummy and baby dolphin cake/s.
The oven in this house is fecking ridiculous and burns everything on top whilset leaving it raw inside.
Well that happened to cakes even though I covered in foil.
Dd saw the cakes and said...oooh, chocolate! (erm no, burnt madeira!)

So have scraped all the burnt off and shall continue to make dolphins.

Will cut the cake and give it to kids on departure. Happy in the knowledge I won't have to face them again!!.
...TAXI! grin

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vvviola Fri 01-Mar-13 18:50:10

AB, unfortunately yes, we have experience with worms hmmhmm yuk yuk yuk.

You can get the stuff over the counter - it's like little squares of chocolate so is a piece of cake to get them to take it. Everyone should be dosed, adults included, but when DD1 had them, I couldn't take it as I was bf, and DD2 was too little. So it was just DD1 & DH.

Was all bedding, cuddly toys used in bed etc as hot as you can. It was suggested that I cover my nose & mouth when stripping beds as the eggs can get thrown up into the air.

Cut kids nails short & put kids in underwear at night for a while. Lots of handwashing and it should be fine.

I was really embarrassed going into chemist but she kind of shrugged her shoulders and said it was rife in kindys especially. Playdoh being the biggest culprit, because some people done bother treating. hmm

Just what you didn't need....

WhatSheSaid Fri 01-Mar-13 18:54:23

How's the rental search going AB?

We haven't had worms but yes, I have heard the chocolate-y treatment is v easy to get kids to take (no surprises there).

frikonastick Fri 01-Mar-13 20:08:40

Deworming is actually no biggie, we have lived in such lovely places that we used to dose ourselves every 6 months as a matter of course.......

Good luck with 'trying' AB

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thelittlestkiwi Sat 02-Mar-13 02:45:43

I wormed us all a few weeks ago when DD had an itchy bum. It was much gentler than I expected. I should have done it years ago given the dodgy food I've eaten in dodgy places.

thelittlestkiwi Sat 02-Mar-13 06:44:58

I've just found a dead cockroach in our dishwasher. Which leaves me with two thoughts. First, they can't really survive anything (thanks Bosch!). And second, how long have my dishes been rinsed in weak cockroach tea?

Yuck. Wine o'clock I think.

lollystix Sat 02-Mar-13 08:07:38

OK - the worm thing. I don't think we've had them yet but I have heard you can deworm yourself regularly like cats. What should I buy?

AngryBeaver Sat 02-Mar-13 08:36:23

Oh fucking hell.MASSIVE disaster and It's my fault.
The estate agent told me 36 Calais Terrace and she thoght it was still on trademe. So I get it up, go, hmm yeah, that's fine...and we scanned back the contract today.
Just before ds clled me in and said "you've been looking at the wrong fecking house?? The one we've saigned for is NEXTDOOR, it's TIINY and has no garage"
What the actual eff am I going to do now??
We move in 12 days and there are no more houses. Can't affors storage, we will be tied into this house for a year!
Shit

AngryBeaver Sat 02-Mar-13 08:47:04

Sorry for grammar, typos..am completely stressing

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AngryBeaver Sat 02-Mar-13 08:54:20

Thanks justa. But this is the kids (and my) bikes, lawnmower etc stuff you needaccess to regularly. I have properly fucked up

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AngryBeaver Sat 02-Mar-13 10:06:49

I don't know. More thn we've got, I'm guessing!
4 weeks rent upfront, 4 weeks bond, $600 finders fee, $1000's removals = us,flat broke sad

AngryBeaver Sat 02-Mar-13 10:08:00

Have made a last min appealo n Waiheke fb and have had peope pm me telling me to ask my "spirit guide" for help.
I asked if my spirit guide worked at Ray White?!

WhatSheSaid Sat 02-Mar-13 18:13:36

How tiny is the tiny house? Is it 2 or 3 beds?

WhatSheSaid Sat 02-Mar-13 18:14:41

And grin at "ask your spirit guide". I love Waiheke. That's not much use to you though.

AngryBeaver Sat 02-Mar-13 19:15:34

I know wss,that conversation ended with "namste"smile

It's 3 bed, but basically a bloody bach. Nogarage. No idea how big bedrooms are, they could all be single. And we have SO much stuff. We can't just put a tarpaulin over it. And the contract ties us in for a year.

Am so completely stressed.

WhatSheSaid Sat 02-Mar-13 21:23:09

So are you tied into it now?

Bunnings have a self assembly shed for 189, there is a Placemakers on the islamd which prpb wont be as cheap but may have something in a aimilar price range.

Not the biggest shed in the world and yes ita more dollars but it may help.

Maybe search on MN for storage ideas, people in 2 bed flats etc often have good ideas.

Friend of mine has those big shallow plastic tubs on wheels that roll under beds.

If there s any boxes you dont need immediately wehave lots of space in our garage too.
Scuse typos.

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AngryBeaver Sun 03-Mar-13 08:34:28

I think we have no choice but to take it. There is nothing else anyway.
Dh thinks there may be underhouse storage, so that's something.
But someone pm'd me asking which house it was, and then said, oh I know it we lived next dooe, yes it's tiny and on an odd section so not much garden sad

I have had another pm, that although well meaning and kind, makes NO sense to me! Shall I show you or is that out of order dyou think?
I think so really, but I did laugh!

WhatSheSaid Sun 03-Mar-13 08:55:45

Yes, tell us the other PM! <nosey>

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lollystix Sun 03-Mar-13 09:07:10

Do you have a link still to the house you've rented? Thos garden shed lock up things may be some sort of solution.

AngryBeaver Sun 03-Mar-13 09:33:22

Ohh I feel mean...she is being nice, Ijust havn't got a feckin' clue what she's on about!

AngryBeaver Sun 03-Mar-13 09:35:36

Oh, ok , but don't tell!

AB, remember you are Loved, and you don't have to earn your place in the Universe ...you are already here. Show your children how well Mummy copes and continues to cope with everything that happens 'cos that is what Mummies do....
Impending doom can dominate the thoughts of someone with thyroid imbalance, but response to continual stress can mess you around. Love yourself anyway. You can perhaps tell that I work with 'images' and have been where you are..... Circular thinking such as a mouse on a wheel.. jump off, take the wheel out of your life. lol You are about to put a beach in instead...complete with some naturally uplifting Ozone. Well done. Someone once said this to me and I hope it may trigger something for you...doesn't matter if it doesn't. . lol. You may feel as if you have all the responsibility and no control (things have happened TO you) well, you ARE in control, you CAN do it, nothing is beyond YOU, and you ARE loved. What could be better. XXX

I have only mentioned that i am a bit nervous about moving, and the car ferry! Nothing else! And I have no thyroid issue...and I know I'm loved! grin
Bless her

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AngryBeaver Sun 03-Mar-13 10:23:50

Now justa, don't be nice to me...am feeling a bit blubby!

I have had a lot of pm's like this...I think I'm going to have to learn to smile and nod...a.LOT!

It's nice people care about others, but they don't 'arf sound potty!!

I sent that to my mum and she replied"who the hell sent you that?!"
I can see she will be smiling and nodding too, when she visits!

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WhatSheSaid Sun 03-Mar-13 17:26:08

Are you from the New Forest, justabout? My in laws live in Brockenhurst.

They have provided me with some fascinating insights into their opinions on life in the last few weeks.

Apparently, "the immigrants" in the UK are ruining everything. I like to point out to them dh and I are immigrants, this confuses them quite a lot grin.

Also, virtually everyone who lives up in the north of England doesn't work but sits around on benefits contributing nothing to society (I lived in the north of England for first 30 years of my life and they know this)

We have had various other comments on Asians/Indians/anyone who isn't white basically (casual racism is not confined to Kiwis!)

Oh and yesterday. Dd2 was being a bit stroppy and I said to her "Oh I wonder what you'll be like as a teenager". Fil immediately said "Lonely. Shell have no friends" shock hmm. Ok...thanks for that...

I'm taking them to the airport in half an hour smile

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WhatSheSaid Sun 03-Mar-13 18:59:28

shock Really? They give the impression it's quite desirable...

thelittlestkiwi Sun 03-Mar-13 19:28:51

OH, WSS, you are an angel. I would have lost the plot or resorted to drink.

I try to remember that my the casual racism thing can be linked to age. My granny was a shocking DM reader who repeated everything she read in it. But she also opened her home to people of other races all her life when it was not the done thing. In her case, what she said and what she did were so different.

Sibble- how goes the great job hunt?

Justa- I have a pal who has just gone the medication route and it has made a big difference to her family. I assume you have discussed it with the Dr's and thought hard so don't beat yourself up. You can always stop if you want to.

WhatSheSaid Sun 03-Mar-13 19:37:00

I'm sooooo not an angel, drink was resorted to on many occasions.

At the end of the day they love the dcs (espec mil, they are her only gc) and that's what matters.

I agree about the medication thing, justabout, you do what's best for your family and you're the one who knows best what that is.

frikonastick Sun 03-Mar-13 19:48:25

Yes yes to the medication justa. A friend of mine recently went through this with her daughter and honestly, it's not a forever thing, you can stop taking them if you find they don't work for you as a family and if they do, then that's a good thing. It's ok to have your and DSs life made easier, even if its medication that has to get you there.

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frikonastick Sun 03-Mar-13 21:03:49

Justa it sounds really tough at the moment :-( thinking of you

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AngryBeaver Mon 04-Mar-13 00:59:29

NOT crap mother at all as well you know. You stop that or I will make that strange woman from Waiheke tell you that you are loved, and all that shit other stuff!grin
Echo what the others say. If taking pills for a while (or longer thana while, even) makes life better for ALL of the family,not just ds, then what is wrong with that?
And agree about telly day. Sometimes I do that for the sniffles, so yabu!

Feeling a bit sorry for myself too, negative test today sad

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Sibble Mon 04-Mar-13 02:34:39

justa i only know you in cyber world but really don't think you are a cr*p mother, we all need sanity days and re. meds I can't comment from personal experience but think that if you think you need them then that is what matters. I also know they have worked well for families I know.

littlest dhs job - still waiting, waiting. He didn't get the Oz job (breaths sigh of relief), he has now had 4 interviews over a 5 week period for a job here and is still waiting the outcome - ho hum....in the meantime he was been offered a position from an interview last week but we're not sure if it is full time/part time or as a consultant as all options were discussed at interview. Meanwhile money going out not quite balancing with money coming in but at least there is money coming in.....

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Sibble Mon 04-Mar-13 18:39:00

anybody else cold this morning, winter is on its way sad dh woke me at 6 and it felt more like 3.....

lollystix Mon 04-Mar-13 19:03:10

Yep DS3 telling my nanny how dark it was this am.

Looks like another winter in the spider shack for us.

AngryBeaver Mon 04-Mar-13 19:03:13

I've got my hoodie on, sibble.(well, dh's hoodie) definite nip in the air and the only reason I knew it was getting up time was that i could hear the ear;ly morning traffic starting. Yuk to dark morings

frikonastick Mon 04-Mar-13 21:17:55

It's overcast here, but still warm enough that I went out and hung the washing up this morning in my pjs grin

Please don't say summer is over yet :-(

WhatSheSaid Tue 05-Mar-13 00:42:48

Autumn days can be lovely though frik . Sunny and clear but not so humid/hot and the UV isn't as harsh. I love that some trees lose their leaves, so it feels autumnal, but that lots of other trees keep theirs, so it's still quite green in the winter.

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frikonastick Tue 05-Mar-13 23:28:27

Right, enrolling DD in kindy today. She really needs to make some friends and stuff. Wish us luck!

vvviola Wed 06-Mar-13 01:20:25

Hope it goes well frik! DD1 adored her kindy.

We're back at "what on earth is that rash" with DD2. Head to toe in spots with no other symptoms. She seems to be the most prone child to random rashes & spots. I don't remember DD1 being this bad.

WhatSheSaid Wed 06-Mar-13 04:20:06

Just remembered - it's free entry to MOTAT in March if you live in North or West Auckland. It's closed this weekend though, because of Pasifika.

Hope kindy enrol went well frik, my dd1 loved her kindy too.

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AngryBeaver Wed 06-Mar-13 07:49:22

Good luck frick. We have a great kindy too. Doing a Trike-a-thon on Fri evenig there. They usually do really good events.
Then after 14 of us are going out for our FArewell meal. I don't know what to wear.
I have a very short dress that I need to wear tights with. Don't know if I can actually bear to have tights on! And also I would need to wear my shoe boots with very high heels. Problem is, dh is the same height as me (5'9) and if I wear those heels, I will look like a total man beast next to him.
Also, I am not good in heels and may fall over blush
Or, I have a dress that I need that I need to wear a strapless bra with...and don't have one.

I would go more casually, but the last time I did that, every other woman turned up in a lbd and I felt underdressed all night!

frikonastick Wed 06-Mar-13 20:11:28

Thanks everyone :-) it went fine, good actually. We were there for about a half hour and she played with another little girl and had a go on the swings. Today we are going for the 10:30 tea break and then next week she will start properly. Only half days, 3 days a week. DH feels too guilty to take the free ECE hours, so we are paying the optional $2 an hour....... Even though we aren't working and have no income...... But to be honest I also felt weird about taking the free hours. Even though we are entitled to them. I think it's because we aren't working yet and haven't contributed yet. IYSWIM. We may be over thinking it though!

AB, my rule of thumb is to wear what makes me feel good about myself, and not worry what anyone else will be wearing.

Vvv, hope you find out what is setting DD off.

Sibble, how's it going for your DH? I must admit to watching with interest as both DH and I are in construction and we have yet to start looking for work......

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frikonastick Wed 06-Mar-13 23:05:50

Nope, we aren't even using up the full 20 hour allowance in the first place as DD is only going 4 hours a day 3 days a week. And we are paying $2 an hour for those 12 hours.

Ha! As I type I see we have just gotten our first invoice, yep, $24 for the week.

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frikonastick Wed 06-Mar-13 23:39:18

I'm not sure, will ask DH as he read all the bumpf. Does it make a difference if its a plunket? <demonstrates woeful levels of research undertaken before signing only child up to first education in foreign land!!!>

AngryBeaver Thu 07-Mar-13 01:17:17

Take the free hours frick! You will contributing soon enough x

Sibble Thu 07-Mar-13 02:38:29

frik he found out last night that he didn't get the job he wanted - 4 interviews over a 5 week period and he didn't get it! He has decided to just do consultancy until something comes up. Luckily he has alot of contacts and people in theory seem to want to use him - crux will come when he tries to convert some of the interest.

Not sure how much work there is out there tbh - more than he thought but alot of people chasing jobs.

Some of his Mainzeals colleagues are taking work in the Waikato area and commuting. At the moment dh is based on the North Shore (a pain for us living South) but doable off peak.

I don't know what aspect of construction you are both in but if it's Project Management, check out linkdin. Seems to be where alot of work is coming up (as well as seek and the usuals of course).

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frikonastick Thu 07-Mar-13 04:01:35

Oh man, sorry to hear that sibble. Yes, project management. Both of us have been on the consulting side of late though, rather than contractor. I am still restraining myself from looking, as we promised ourselves 3 months job free and job search free! But it is really hard to just let yourself have the break. I thought DH would struggle actually, but it's me! It is so lovely to spend time altogether though as a family. DH went with me and DD to kindy today, he has never been to her kindy before. Let alone been able to stick around and watch and participate. He has been teaching DD to ride her bike. And you know, every day I think to myself, please god that she remembers this. Because all too soon we will be back both working full time.

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vvviola Thu 07-Mar-13 05:55:47

Oh justa, what a stress you didn't need hmm

Is this because of the original ACC person who came around to you? The one that you had to get it all passed on to her supervisor? Or am I remembering it all wrong?

Whatever it is, am sure it will all be fine. Definitely put the thoughts of social workers in vans out of your mind.

If you think the word of a student/ex-diplomat/slightly harassed mother of 2 crazy girls is of any use, send them down to me, I'll tell them them how great you are.

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vvviola Thu 07-Mar-13 06:32:40

Totally random but... Justa, if you haven't seen the long thread in classics about weird behaviour at toddler groups you should head over there now for two reasons. 1: it will make you cry laughing and that's always a good thing especially on a bad day; 2: you absolutely need to share the story of the "how to please your husband" lecture you got at that group you went to grin

frikonastick Thu 07-Mar-13 08:31:30

I know I mentioned before about my oldest and dearest friend having been diagnosed with terminal cancer. And that I flew to see her and say goodbye before we came out here. Anyway, today is her birthday and I had so hoped to be able to speak to her, but she is too ill. And I am just heartbroken.

Please don't feel like you have to reply to this, I just wanted to write it down somewhere. That I love her and miss her. That this is devastating.

Sorry

thelittlestkiwi Thu 07-Mar-13 08:37:20

Justa- Sorry to hear about your hassles. I'm sure it'll all be fine and I hope you get lots of support.

Frik- I'm very sorry to hear about your friend. It's good you got to see her before you left.

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AngryBeaver Thu 07-Mar-13 09:54:17

Darling frick, come here (((())) <strokes hair>.
I'm sorry you weren't able to talk to your bestie. I can't imagine being in your place. Must be so hard for all that love her sad. But exceedlingly difficult for you being so far away. sad Type away if it helps xx

AngryBeaver Thu 07-Mar-13 09:55:44

justa, I hope it if you do have to endure loads of meetings, that at least you get better support x

AngryBeaver Thu 07-Mar-13 21:55:11

Christ, the saga continues.
Db had had a shunt in car so I text to say hope he and ds were ok.
Then went on to say it was our leaving do tonight, should be good etc and wish we could see him and his df. He replied "yeah, well you chose to move to the other side of the world. So that's not going to happen is it? To be honest I'm very hurt that you took the kids away and now ds misses out on seeing his cousins. Hope move goes ok"

Fucks sake.

So Mum arrives and I told her and she shrugged her shoulders and said "oh, get over it!"
I said "erm, I think it's actually him that needs to get over it?"

And she held her hand up and said "This is not a good time to talk to me about this. I am feeling very distressed about going home in a few days and leaving the children. You say we didn't support you. But you never made any allowances for how hurt and betrayed we felf. And, STILL feel. So don't talk to me about this today" And took ds to playgroup.

Back to square one.

Have massive knot in my tummy now sad

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WhatSheSaid Thu 07-Mar-13 22:09:36

frik so sorry about your friend - heartbreaking.

Sibble Thu 07-Mar-13 23:14:03

[hugs] frik and justa

lollystix Fri 08-Mar-13 10:18:18

Frik sad

frikonastick Fri 08-Mar-13 20:12:46

Thanks everyone. It really helped being able to write about it on here, and I know I said you needn't reply, but you know, having my grief acknowledged is hugely comforting.

No one here in NZ knows about it because how do you fit that into conversation? And when i Skype with friends and family, it doesn't seem ok to talk about it when they have been waiting hours to call etc etc because of the time difference. And of course the kids are always around. And, perversely, I don't really want to talk about it because it is hugely upsetting!!!

Argh. I don't do emotion very well at the best of times. That's not to say I am unemotional, quite spectacularly the opposite actually. I'm just not very good at expressing when I am in pain, or in need of comfort, or basically anything other than chipper and in control and upbeat. I'm not even talking to DH about anything at the moment which I know is a bad road to head down, but I just feel so enormously out of my depth emotionally that I really don't know where to start.

Sorry, it's not cool to be all confessional on this thread really is it. Poor potential migrants will be all like, but where's the bit about how expensive kids shoes are?!!

AngryBeaver Fri 08-Mar-13 20:23:56

This is thread has had all sorts frick! Particuarly depressing for around 3 months beginning May last year sad So go on, type it out.
I totally get that it all feels so big you don't know where to start.
Really relate to thta.
It must be incredibly hard to not be able to talk about what you're going through in rl.
So, we are all here for you (I sound like a cheesy american tv shrink) but, 'tis true.

Thanks justa, I think Mum had time to absorb what I said yesterday. So I hope that she will go home and tell db to stop with the emotional abuse.

In other news, had a great time last night at Farewell meal...but got quite drunk and did something shameful!blush

And we have 3 viewers for our UK property, so fingers crossed!!

frikonastick Fri 08-Mar-13 20:26:43

AB, I have a very difficult brother. I have found that the best way to deal with the crazy, is to agree with it. It basically achieves two things, gives him nowhere to go with the argument, and allows you to re- direct the conversation.

It does initially feel like they are 'winning' but the truth if it is, absolutely nothing you say or do in argument or mitigation is going to make him see your situation differently. He just wants to be 'right'. So tell him he is. It makes no difference to your actual situation at all. Except you will have removed one of his buttons to push.

My take on it anyway :-)

frikonastick Fri 08-Mar-13 20:27:42

Cross posted!!!!

What did you dooooooo <agog>

And are there pictures?

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AngryBeaver Fri 08-Mar-13 20:55:26

I might try that approach too frick!

Oh god, I have had to text everyone to apologise.

I had an unusual bra on last night. It is a strapless one, but had big beads attached to the centre that tie around the neck with a ribbon, and then a smaller string of beads that do same. Anyway, at end of night when we were all outside restaurant, one of my friends says "I am facinated to know where those beads go and how they're attached?!"
So blush blush blush...I showed her blush blush and then I realised everyone else was looking too, and everyones husband blush blush.
What they must think of me now blush Oh god

AngryBeaver Fri 08-Mar-13 20:56:15

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frikonastick Fri 08-Mar-13 21:10:19

It really does work justa.

One of my brothers favorite buttons was to say all the time that proof of my lack of familial feeling and general arch bitchness was that i never visited him. Which was delve stating to me because it was really really untrue.

I used to spend ages explaining that i was usually travelling for work, or that the 2 weeks total leave allowance i had a year was better spent going to our parents etc etc. But of course, that just allowed hom to keep making the same point, and because i engaged with him over it, he felt perfectly justified in texting me and making comments on my facebook everythime i went somewhere, which was bloody awful. so eventually, i just agreed with him.

That I didn't visit him because, yes he was right, I did have other priorities. He was stopped short. He then about a month later said I can't believe you admit that you have other priorities than me (!!!!!!,) and I wonder if everyone who thinks they know you would be disgusted at you. So I said, maybe they would be, I will happily tell anyone you think I should, that I have priorities other than you. Silence greeted that! He then asked me wasn't i ashamed, I said no, he said you should be and I said.... You are right! I probably should be.

You see how it works?

WhatSheSaid Fri 08-Mar-13 22:20:59

AB just as well you're leaving town, eh? Nah, only joking, I'm sure they'll all recover from seeing your undergarments grin

Dh is making lots of noises about being Very Unhappy in his career and Wanting To Change. So it could be an interesting few months. I really feel I need to get back to work at some point but have no idea what I want to do and am feeling very unconfident about my employability after 5 years at home...

thelittlestkiwi Fri 08-Mar-13 23:35:17

Frik- I think in reality the illness and loss of a young person is horribly difficult to deal with, whatever the circumstances. I sadly lost a BF before we left the UK, after she had been sick for some time. I found it hard to talk about with people- because it was so difficult that they never asked about it. My pals would ask DH how I was and he would say fine. Mutual pals were really crap at staying in touch with her and she kept her final diagnosis a secret for a long time which put me in a tough position.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that what you are going through is shite and feel free to vent away. Some things are unbearable and yet bear them we must.

It's six years since my pal passed and while I still feel her loss, my grief is very different now. Inevitably things change. Last year I spoke to her mum and she told me her family have found peace which is a huge comfort to me.

frikonastick Sat 09-Mar-13 00:15:59

Thanks littlest, that's made me tear up a bit. You are spot on about no ne asking either. Which makes me feel like I am somehow being dramatic if I bring it up.

But also, reading your post I realized that one of the reasons I'm not really talking to DH about it, is that he has never lost anyone close to him. And I am finding it difficult to articulate to myself, let alone someone else, that hearing you talk about it having experienced it, it's just so different. You 'get it' and I know DH doesn't really, even though he will be sympathetic and lovely..... Oh I don't know, it's all a bit shit :-(

Thanks very much though everyone, I really do appreciate you all letting me moan on here

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vvviola Sat 09-Mar-13 06:25:07

Frik, just adding my hugs and good wishes to the others. Be kind to yourself and unload here any time you need to.

Would you believe we've had someone run up the back of us again!! At the same bloody junction too. DH's car this time & he was driving. Thankfully a "gentler" bump, so no injuries and not as big a fright for the girls, and no need to go down the hassle of new car seats etc. But still a fair bit of damage to the car.

But seriously, the same bloody junction??!

thelittlestkiwi Sat 09-Mar-13 07:03:05

Justabout is right- it is a big deal Frik. And hard to understand unless you have been through it I think. I sometimes wish I had gone to grief counselling but at the time my loss seemed small compared to her family so somehow I didn't feel like I deserved it.

I'm not religious so what helped me the most was getting outside into nature. A walk on a beach or in a forest.

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frikonastick Sat 09-Mar-13 19:26:32

Well, given that in the last week I have bought a bike and a kayak, I think maybe there is something in what you are saying justa and littlest!

At the moment for me, I dread waking up in the morning because I'm scared every morning that today will be the day and she will have died.

Vvv sorry about your car accident, how unbelievable it's at the same junction! Is there a way they can make the junction safer? My folks had one down the road that they put a speed bump in to ensure traffic slowed down enough before the junction. But of course, only after there had been a bunch of accidents there!!

AB, how goes the move?

thelittlestkiwi Sat 09-Mar-13 21:44:21

Oh, I'm jealous Frik. I've been hoping to get out in a kayak all summer but it hasn't happened due to having to look after DD. I'd been hoping for another summer weekend away but DH can't fit one in.

Vvviola. Some junctions are just more dangerous. Maybe you should contact your MP? Hope your insurance pays out.

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AngryBeaver Sun 10-Mar-13 08:15:24

I'm jealous too, frick.
I have only kayaked once, in the Maldives, but I loved it!
It's on our "to get" list.

Sorry about the shunt, vvv, can't believe that, what a pain! Glad you're ok.

frick,We are leaving on Thurs and staying in a motel in Half Moon Bay (how fabulous is that name?!) then getting the 8 am ferry over to Waiheke.
I'm not really looking forward to it,tbh. But, hey ho.

Had a great day today with Mum and the kids at Rainbow Springs in Rotorua.
I will be really sad tomorrow when she goes home (sniff)

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xMinerva Sun 10-Mar-13 19:59:50

Hey,

Phone sorted now so it can handle downloading rest of the thread to read.

Sounds like a tough decision about the meds justa but, from what I know of you, you're not a woman who takes decisions lightly and I'm sure whatever you and dh decide will be the best thing for your family. Hope you start getting the support you want and need soon.

Frik take the free hours, honestly, I assume you'll be contributing soon and I'm sure that will be more than you'll take from the ECE.

We worked out a plan with our "home-based educator" so ds1 still goes to Kindy and she picks him up when needed.

Work is going great, I'm absolutely loving getting out of the house and having adult conversation. I got home on Saturday and the house was spotless, including dp getting down on his hands and knees to scrub kitchen floor and cupboard doors, and dinner was all ready to eat. Bliss! grin

When's the move AB I'm sure it's here somewhere but still have to go back and read thread properly.

Can't remember who mentioned it but dp uses LinkedIn a lot for contacts etc. Sibble what is it your dh does? (Again, you may have said but haven't read back yet)

xMinerva Sun 10-Mar-13 20:01:45

Ps: bit chilly this morning. Might have to go and get me some proper flannel pj's and bed socks. grin

vvviola Sun 10-Mar-13 20:39:27

~waves to everyone in a not-sufficiently-caffeinated haze~

I love the bus lanes here. I'm on my way into lectures & currently speeding past almost stationary traffic smile

Oh yes xMinerva, flannel pjs & bed socks will probably be essential at some stage... but not yet I don't think. Due to be too hot 26 degrees today again.

A question: DH is doing the school/crèche run tomorrow as I have an early meeting. He has no real concept of getting both girls up & out in the morning, although he's pretty good most of the time with everything else. Seeing as he's doing me a big favour, it would be a bit mean for me just to leave everything & let him figure it out, wouldn't if? wink

kiwidreamer Sun 10-Mar-13 21:04:57

M&S sale starts 8pm on the 11th too according to email I just got smile

frikonastick Sun 10-Mar-13 21:14:36

Where's lolly? I haven't seen her in a while. OMG saw a job that would be perfect for me, but we are supposed to be sabbaticaling, and I should never ever have looked, but now I have and I found one which seems to be very serendipitous. But of course am now frantically writing, editing, re writing, re editing to infinity the covering letter to my cv. Aaaarrrggghhh. I should just print it off right and then march myself over there and introduce myself and hand it over. <rolls up sleeves>

lollystix Mon 11-Mar-13 04:54:20

Lolly is on the bus! And man it's hot. Not coping with the heat.

I have no news. Work calmed down a little which is good. House hunting - so over that. Truly depressing in Auckland. Always find myself buying in a sellers market the world over.

MIL skyped yesterday. DH asked how long she is visiting for when they come Feb 14 (the trip they will have been saving for for 2 years). 3 weeks apparently! (they are both retired by the way and will be staying with us). Finances will be blamed for the very short stay (we pointed out we will cover their housing and food costs) but the reality is MIL will probably not want to leave SIL. Dh is disappointed. They won't be talked round though.

Skyped DB this weekend - sad-his marriage not going too great and he seemed so down and Skype not good for serious stuff.

Good luck with the move AB - keep us posted on it all. How is your furniture getting there? Removal van in the Ferry?

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meerkate Mon 11-Mar-13 11:25:16

Hi girls, been a little while again, lovely to catch up. DH has been looking into a Perth job which continues to look elusive (lack of funding for the post continues, plus Brits hardly get a look in these days in metropolitan areas) but meantime has a phone interview for Middlemore on Wednesday, eek! We'll see what transpires! I have been worrying about finances a bit - lolly like you we are always trying to buy in a seller's market, btw! - anyway obviously we'd be renting initially. Rents are high, aren't they?! We're newly installed in a bright, cheerful, modern, low-maintenance, well-insulated house here in the UK and as I hate being cold, I really shrink from something draughty and damp! I saw the perfect house in St Heliers online yesterday, thought, hurray, and then realised it was $800/week shock when I converted that into pounds I was slightly horrified..
lolly three weeks sounds like the length of trip my parents plan - I always find it just right, myself, when they've been staying with us Down Under; sometimes in the past they have rented their own little appartment for longer stays, but obviously that's a big ask.
AB I've been checking out your island paradise on various Auckland sites - it looks stunning, I have to say!
It is minus one here and painfully cold with a bitter wind - brrr! I hope you're enjoying the balmy temps over theresmile back soon xx

meerkate Mon 11-Mar-13 11:31:50

PS frik great you are now installed in gorgeous Tauranga (we'd still love a job there, but no can-do right now, apparently!) and I am so, so sorry about your friend, it's so desperately sad. I too agree with those of you who love to walk as 'balm to the soul', I have got through various past crises, one of which involved a great loss, by walking alone in beautiful places, not least in South Island NZ. As justa says, for me it is about the spiritual aspect of nature and that feeling of connection to the whole that she talked about. But the sadness remains, and as others have said, we're all here for you and hope that you will write down whatever helps you through this tough time xxx

frikonastick Mon 11-Mar-13 19:07:32

Thanks meerkate, and your post couldn't have been more timely as I have just had a terribly upsetting call from my friends mother. She is being admitted to hospital now and they don't expect her to make it through the day. Thank god we are on our way to the South Island this afternoon after we pick DD up from kindy. I think I am really really going to need some beautiful vistas.

There's lolly :-) glad all is ticking along for you, will keep elbowing the gods of property for you and hope something awesome comes up. You know we had all that stress and drama because of course we have a dog, so out of the 200 properties for rent in tauranga, we could only view 5. And we would never ever have looked at the house we are in of our own violation. And it has turned out to be freaking awesome. Literally the best house ever. So you never know, what may now seem like a bunch of painful obstacles may just be priming you for the best place :-) here's hoping anyway!

AngryBeaver Mon 11-Mar-13 20:12:27

Hi meerkate smile

Aw, frick...how distressing. I hope the South island brings you some comfort. Big tight squeeze for you from me xxxx

We have had an offer on our house! We dropped the price to silly £ and got 3 viewers in 3 days. Aproperty developer wants to buy it. He has offered cash. We will loose a.lot. But we can't carry on like this, so we have to take it.

So prepare for incoming Waiheke property porn!

My Mummy is on her way to the airport. I am missing her already. sad
The kids were all upset this morning too.

lolly you're a much better woman than I.
There is no way I'd be encouraging my ILS to increase the duration of their stay! No freaking way!
I salute you ;)
How are the boys getting on (the furry ones I mean!)

lollystix Mon 11-Mar-13 23:19:11

Posting and dashing. M&S sale and FREE delivery to NZ!

WhatSheSaid Tue 12-Mar-13 05:33:06

Hahahahahahahahahaha

That's the sound of slightly hollow laughter from me.

The reason? One of dh's friends (in NZ) proposed to his gf on Sunday (how lovely) and phoned up yesterday to ask him to be best man (how lovely, again)

Today dh met up with him for a chat. Dh has just phoned me and I said "oh, have they thought about a venue for the wedding yet?", expecting him to say somewhere in the Waitakeres or at a vineyard or something like that.

Dh says "yes, they want to do it in Mexico"!

Apparently it will cost about 5K per person so they wanted to tell us now to give us time to save up confused.

There is NO way we could spend that much on 4 of us going to Mexico! Dh started to work out how much it would be and I said, look, it would not be me and the dcs. If it happens at all it will be just you.

I would start an AIBU about it but I don't dare to post in AIBU grin.

I am chuckling to myself as I can't BELIEVE they think people will be able to afford this. Their first dc is due soon so they will be down to one income too - I can't believe they can afford it!

thelittlestkiwi Tue 12-Mar-13 05:57:44

5K per person! WTAF? We only spent about 10K NZD on our whole wedding!

How are you going to tell them? Or will you wait till everyone else has said no first?

Plus Mexico is the last place on earth I would take a small child. I was so sick there I lost half a stone in 10 days.

WhatSheSaid Tue 12-Mar-13 06:25:26

It gets better!

Dh has just got home and told me that in addition to the estimated 5K per person for us to go they were hoping that instead of wedding presents everyone will donate and pay for the wedding couple's costs to get there, stay etc.

So as well as our, what, 15k for four of us (dcs being cheaper - not that four of us would go) we would be expected to give another, what $500? $1000? To pay for them. Because apparently they can't really afford to go either!

I'm really really NBU, am I?

Dh thinks the same, it's crazy. If we had a spare 5K there are loads of more important things we could spend it on. He has done his best to point out the flaws in their plan. And flying, what 14 hours to get to your wedding?

The 5K cost is an all inclusive package apparently, flights, accommodation, food, drinks, etc etc etc.

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WhatSheSaid Tue 12-Mar-13 07:10:10

Actually, littlestkiwi, I could do with losing half a stone in 10 days, that's the only bonus I can see grin

lollystix Tue 12-Mar-13 08:13:02

Oh dear whatshesaid - I really don't thinu YABU. I love the fact that they want other folk to pay for them to get there as they don't have the money themslves. It's always comedy how people disappear up their own arses when they get married. I can't think of many places I would rather not go with small DC - we'll perhaps several parts of Africa but YKWIM. Weird isn't it when there are so many amazing places in NZ you could get married.

Today's happy event is that DH did a record at work and his boss emailed him and said to take me out and charge it all back to his work. I'm staggered - this sort of thing never happens to me. Sadly babysitters are cash in hand!

Frik - you OK?

thelittlestkiwi Tue 12-Mar-13 08:25:28

Unfortunately, I then got a hunger. I ate everything in sight and put it all back on before I flew home.

Maybe they will reconsider when they realise quite how hard a 14 hour flight would be with a little one. If I were getting married now I'd probably do it on Waiheke or in the Pacific- but that would be on our own.

WhatSheSaid Tue 12-Mar-13 08:31:41

Yep, there are some great venues for weddings in NZ. Lovely outdoor ones as well as indoor. The first wedding I went to here was outdoors, which I thought was terribly exotic at the time.

They don't have dcs yet so I don't think they have a clue what it will be like to fly that distance with a baby ( who will be crawling by the time they get married).

We got married in Oz and spent virtually nothing on it as we just did it on the quiet while we were on holiday there. Told everyone when we got back and had a party at our house. Total cost, very low.

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frikonastick Tue 12-Mar-13 09:26:34

Well, I got a text and my friend had a blood transfusion and is now alert and talking! I am hoping to speak to her tonight. Her mum said its a temporary fix, and she isn't sure of wether it's the right thing to do prolonging it all, but all I can think is that I might get to hear her voice again.

We have just driven 522km and I am shattered. But DD was so so so good I am very proud of her :-)

Woohoo for your DH lolly! And even more so for the meal, go somewhere really really nice, g'wan you know you want to grin

Am absolutely ASTOUNDED by your DHs mates whatshesaid, I genuinely think that's the worst case of bride/groomzillaish behavior ever. And it's a big field!!!

Just tell them no. Sorry an'all that, but like, NO. Bloody hell.

Justa, I have lost 4kgs since moving to NZ and am trying very hard not to put it all back on during this road trip, which is looking increasingly unlikely as I ate about 4000 calories today alone :-( stress eating.

Right. I really need to go to sleep as we have to be up at 6am for the ferry, but I am hoping my friend calls....hmmmm will just switch off lights and leave phone on.

WhatSheSaid Tue 12-Mar-13 09:29:09

Glad to hear about your friend frik. Sorry it will only be a temporary fix, of course.

thelittlestkiwi Tue 12-Mar-13 19:05:34

Sorry to hear that frik. You must be very important to your pal.

Enjoy SI.

Lolly- well done to your DH. A friend of mine reckons that St has been a bit flooded by chance takers who have heard about a few big sales and are trying their luck atm.

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frikonastick Wed 13-Mar-13 07:52:50

Well, another 280km done! Not including the ferry ride over obvs. Holy shitoli but this place is beautiful. I mean, genuinely jaw dropping, exhilaratingly, mind blowingly stunning. We are staying the night in kaikoura and hoping to catch some whale sightseeing tomorrow morning, then on to Christchurch and then on to timaru. We are having a really lovely time just the three of us together :-)

No news at all from my friend. Actually I haven't had direct contact with her in over a month. I write to her every day though and have done so since her diagnosis. I know she hasn't seen anyone other than her kids and her mom and doctors in over a month too. I think she is just slowly withdrawing from the world. Although her mom says she avidly listens to all my mails and asks to see the photos too. Oh fuck. Now I'm crying again. Got to go.

AngryBeaver Wed 13-Mar-13 08:00:37

wss...no is a complete sentence wink
Worra fackin' liberty! Seriously, the gall of some people!
"I wish we could get married in some far flung land darling...wait a miute, I have a brilliant plan!"
hmm

lolly woo, go the dh, nice work. Enjoy your meal. I find it always tastes better when it's free smile

frick I hope you are loving the SI. What's the weather like? (God, I am soo British!)
I hope you get to talk to your friend I really do smile

justa early night for you!

I am still trying to get ds2 to sleep, he isn't so good and climbed onto my knee at 4 pm and promptly went to sleep. So now, of course, he won't!

Our last night in this house. Boxes all around. Chaos reigns. Still loads to do.
But have been really touched by the friends I have made here. I have had visitors all pm yesterday and today coming for last minute goodbyes and cuddles! And offers of help with childcare and cleaning.

One friend held each of my childrens faces and said "I love you"...I thought that was so sweet.

WhatSheSaid Wed 13-Mar-13 17:53:03

Apparently various other people who've been invited think the Mexico plan is crazy too what a surprise so hopefully they'll reconsider.

It's not like NZ is lacking in gorgeous locations to get married in!

frik glad you are enjoying the SI, it really is stunning. We had a holiday there last year and I stared at the views A LOT..

Sibble Wed 13-Mar-13 17:55:16

Mexico - very crazy as in what planet are they on?

Sibble Thu 14-Mar-13 02:48:27

crap day working with a crap half wit who has just managed to negotiate a contract for 3x my salary (nearly) and I am sorting out their crap. very bitter and twisted today am hoping that putting it in writing where they won't see it will help......

the word crap crap crap seems to be helping

over and out

thelittlestkiwi Thu 14-Mar-13 06:54:07

Ah Sibble, that sucks. Nothing worse than a moron who gets paid more than you. Time to ask for a pay rise?

vvviola Thu 14-Mar-13 10:00:44

WSS - my DB got married abroad in a place where there was only 1 flight a week from where my parents lived and no direct flights from where I was living. I nearly ended up with an official reprimand at work over the whole mess hmm I'll say no more on a public forum, but get a beer or two into me.... wink

Does anyone have any suggestions (other than the Warehouse, which will be our first port of call) for a cheap basic desk? We are turning the walk in wardrobe into my study nook as I may have had a complete meltdown expressed some concern at not having any dedicated space of my own. It's at times like this that I miss Ikea.

Thinking of you and your friend frik xx

AB - my brain is mush & I can't scroll back, are you moved???

WhatSheSaid Thu 14-Mar-13 17:18:41

We got a computer desk off Trade Me (an IKEA one too!) for $20.

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thelittlestkiwi Thu 14-Mar-13 19:52:00

Vvviola- I've often bought a small table to use as a desk. You could try trademe for the Ikea import shops if Justabouts doesn't fit?

frikonastick Fri 15-Mar-13 20:15:17

Hello all, tales from the South Island continues! We went on a HELICOPTER to do whale watching in kaikoura and it was frikken mind blowing! We saw two whales and about a thousand dolphins. Totally and amazingly awesome. Was shock at the damage in Christchurch city centre, and its two years of reconstruction already, can only imagine what it was like at the time. We are in timaru at the moment, spent the last two days visiting with friends, went up to lake pukeko and took some fantastic photos (if I do say so myself). And now We are getting organized to start the trip back up the South Island towards home :-)

frikonastick Fri 15-Mar-13 20:17:27

Am not sure why that is a royal We.........lol. AB are you moved in yet? Lolly where did you go on your free dinner? Whatshesaid, how's the saving for Mexico going (tongue firmly in cheek)

WhatSheSaid Fri 15-Mar-13 21:24:07

Haha no saving for Mexico in my house!

I swam with the dolphins at Kaikoura many moons ago, it was amazing.

I think AB moved yesterday, she probably won't have the Internet for a while.

Dd1 and her year 1 class did 2 songs and dances in front of the whole school at assembly yesterday, she even got to say one line by herself. I was, of course, inordinately proud of my firstborn grin.

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WhatSheSaid Fri 15-Mar-13 22:20:59

Is is not cheaper to fly, justabout? By the time you've paid petrol/accommodation/ferry? Though then I guess you wouldn't have a car while in Chch.

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vvviola Sat 16-Mar-13 00:04:45

Thanks for the advice on desks - and the lovely offer justa. However DH was feeling efficient this morning. By 10am we were at the Warehouse (fab new shopping area up in Silverdale) and got a basic desk reduced to $50 from $100 grin

Now to rearrange the wardrobe so I can fit it in!

(Justa - I was surprised at how relatively inexpensive the interislander was considering we had 3 adults, 2 children & car - I think there are some decent advance deals)

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frikonastick Sat 16-Mar-13 05:15:11

It cost us $250 one way.

Kaikoura is fanbloodytastic. I could so live there......

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vvviola Sat 16-Mar-13 07:54:30

I have a desk, in a wardrobe. I even have a desk light, our old filing cabinet and a chair.

grin

Thankfully it isn't under the stairs (seriously, we do have an understair cupboard, and it was briefly considered...), but even so, it does feel a little Harry-Potter-ish.

But still, my own office at last. grin

lollystix Sat 16-Mar-13 10:46:50

So jealous of trip south Frik. I did dolphins too whatshesaid in Kaiks many moons ago and it blew me away. Would look to have time to amble round there again.

So can I ask littlestkiwi, Frik and VViola and was - you mothers of girls- AIBU? Or is this just a girl thing?

Just skyed DB who, with DSIL are neurotic about mess. DN1 is 17m (girl) and she was having breakfast. Unusually DS4 had woken so I got him up to see his cousin as they are 3 weeks apart. I gave him (another) banana. So DN gets put in high chair with body armour bib. I sit DS4 down on sofa next to me in jammies and hand him banana out of skin. He noshes and mashed it into sofa - usual shit- I reach for wipes. Meanwhile DN is fed (she does not once reach for spoon?!) three bowl of cereal. Not a dribble. My dad (our dad) is with DB and just keeps saying 'she's very different to the boys' and DB saying 'see - it doesn't have to be so messy'. I am now feeling inadequate. DS4 stopped letting me feed him at about 13 months. He ate his own yoghurt in his nappy this am and I just wiped him down (tummy, thighs) afterwards. Am I a failure? sad

vvviola Sat 16-Mar-13 10:56:56

Lolly - if you'd asked me this 2 years ago, I'd have said girls are definitely much tidier. DD1 was a really neat eater, was more worried about the speed the food went in than wanting to do it herself most of the time. (That all changed mind you!)

DD2 is a whirlwind. Her favourite comment at breakfast is "boo" (which means: stop messing about and give me the bowl Mum). She hates bibs, feeds herself by the fistful rather than by spoon and usually needs a bath straight after dinner. There are days I thank my lucky stars she can't have yogurt when I think about the potential mess grin

She does, oddly get worked up afterwards over dirty hands, but certainly not during the eating process.

So definitely, not a failure by a long shot grin

frikonastick Sat 16-Mar-13 17:22:16

I think 90% of my DDs behavior at that age had stuff all to do with anything I did or didn't do. Seriously. My DD was /is a horrific eater and we could never persuade her to touch food at all, let alone get messy. So I am sure my child looked perfectly turned out at mealtimes but that had nothing to do with my parenting skills and entirely to do with DDs own personal little peculiarity.

I had a friend who's first child she did sleep training with, I think it's a famous method or something, Gerald something? Or someone one? Anyway, it worked a treat and she was like, I am an AWESOME parent. Then she had another child and did the same thing. Did it work? Like hell it did. And it then dawned on her, that her mad parenting skills actually weren't so awesome at all, and really it was all down to the kid you get!

So don't at ALL feel inadequate. <gavel>

frikonastick Sat 16-Mar-13 17:25:14

Oh and yes, I have indeed been up since 5am in order to get on the ferry at 5:30am because something went wrong with the one we were supposed to go on at a much much more civilized hour of 10:30am. Am feeling very uncharitable towards the ferry right now.

WhatSheSaid Sat 16-Mar-13 18:10:44

I'm sniggering at the thought of either of my dds staying clean during mealtimes when they were toddlers. I have a great photo of dd2 covered in fricking Dora "chocolate dessert" - face, chest, tummy, arms, the lot.

Mess doesn't really bother me and I think it's part and parcel of having small kids. I remember my in-laws being horrified when I gave dd1 (aged 1) a yoghurt and spoon and let her get on with it - I could see they were desperate to grab it off her but somehow managed to restrain themselves.

Meh. Small kids. Mess. A bit of food on the floor and themselves while they learn to feed themselves. Does it really matter in the grand scheme of things? Of course not.

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thelittlestkiwi Sat 16-Mar-13 20:38:18

I don't think it is a girl thing. I think it's a parent thing. Do they just have one DC? It's much easier to control food when you just have the one, through simple logistics. DD has always made a mess but I want her to feed herself as I think the control helps develop a healthy attitude to food. She's not great at using a knife and fork though- should I be worried about this at 3 3/4? I reckon as long as your kids are eating well and growing you are doing it right Lolly.

I've heard it is fire station open day on the NS. Dunno if the rest of the city has open days though.

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lollystix Sat 16-Mar-13 21:12:44

The weather sad.

AB - tell us news from

Yes it's only DC for bro and SIL and they are VERY anal about mess. They used to get towels out for my boys to sit on on the furniture in case they made a mess. They have a beautiful house, John Lewis/Laura Ashley style - duck egg - it really is lovely. I have a sticky, unmatching house full of broken bits of plastic that float around. But I suppose DS4 can feed himself.

A year now since we left UK - gone so fast.

lollystix Sat 16-Mar-13 21:13:22

Waiheke that is - but I assume you're waiting on t'interweb

thelittlestkiwi Sat 16-Mar-13 22:28:30

Sorry Justa- thought it would be fun.

Lolly- towels on the furniture! Wow. Congrats on surviving your first year. What will you do to celebrate?

frikonastick Sat 16-Mar-13 22:43:52

Towels on the furniture?? Wow, really? That sounds like hard work <polite face>

Lolly, a whole year! We have just done our first year. We are 'celebrating' at maccy Ds on our way back up the north island. You need to go and do something really good to mark it. Take a photo of you all on the couch or something :-)

vvviola Sat 16-Mar-13 23:22:56

Justa - they cancelled the parade. I am beyond miffed.

And Ireland lost the rugby to Italy.

DH is being very nice to me right now grin

frikonastick Sun 17-Mar-13 00:35:51

Dammit. First MONTH

thelittlestkiwi Sun 17-Mar-13 03:23:51

Anyone feel that? Geonet say it was under the volcano!

vvviola Sun 17-Mar-13 03:38:44

Yes we felt it! It took a moment or two to register what it was.

Made me realise that we really need to sort out emergency plans etc.

Does it make anyone else nervous that it was under the volcano shock

WhatSheSaid Sun 17-Mar-13 03:49:18

Oh, a quake? Didn't feel anything here.

lollystix Sun 17-Mar-13 04:05:56

I wasn't very good at geography but surely quake under volcano is not the best ?!

WhatSheSaid Sun 17-Mar-13 04:08:17

Wonder if AB felt it on Waiheke. What a welcome to the island...

Sibble Sun 17-Mar-13 04:11:48

Didn't feel anythind down South either, stuff says North Shore, West and Waiheke mostly felt it.

thelittlestkiwi Sun 17-Mar-13 04:21:48

That's what I was thinking WSS! Welcome to Auckland!

vvviola Sun 17-Mar-13 06:17:05

No no no lolly, you were supposed to come on and tell me in great scientific detail why an earthquake on a volcano is absolutely no problem at all wink

Hope AB is doing ok. Can't be a nice greeting to Waiheke!

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thelittlestkiwi Sun 17-Mar-13 18:57:52

Oh good. Thought I'd sent you on a wild goose chase!

theartfulsoapdodger Mon 18-Mar-13 05:57:15

Hi all (crap at keeping up)

Gutted to have missed a fire station open day - do say if you hear of any others.

Ikea desks - I recently made my H bring one back from aus on the plane! And when my friend heard she decided she wanted one too. Serves him right for choosing to work in aus since the twins were tiny smile

Anyone know what you're supposed to do when a swaddled baby starts to roll in their cot, by the way? These are the best sleeping babies I've ever had and I'm convinced its entirely down to swaddling, will have to stop it though if not safe I guess.

Didn't feel the earthquake here southeast of the cbd, it's a newish concrete house though maybe it would be more noticeable in another house.

thelittlestkiwi Mon 18-Mar-13 06:05:36

Artful. I had a couple of things that helped when DD was tiny. First was a safe-t-sleep which you basically use to velcro the baby on their back.

The other thing I used when DD was a bit older- it was a sleeping bag which was sewn onto a sheet down the back. The sheet was then secured to the mattress with straps. It mean't DD could roll over and sit up but not try to climb out of the cot.

Have a look at the sleepstore for the safe-t-sleep. They are quite expensive but lots of them sell well on trademe. I borrowed mine.

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thelittlestkiwi Mon 18-Mar-13 07:33:31

I could do with one with a padlock ATM Justabout! DD is taking 2 hours to settle at night. Not crying. Just up and down wanting attention. I'm getting tough this evening. I need a wine.

(Any advice anyone?)

lollystix Mon 18-Mar-13 08:39:07

We have similar - always the same two that mess on. We ask them to chose which wheelie bin they want to sleep in - the red one or the blue one? After about 20 minutes we then stick them on the doorstep and close the door telling them they can sleep outside (in the wheelie bin) or in their beds Works every time wink

meerkate Mon 18-Mar-13 09:57:50

Hello girls! It's the most gorgeous Spring day here at LAST - but we had a bit of snow yesterday and the skies have mostly been leaden as usual these past weeks - it feels like the longest winter on record!! Anyway, great to catch up with you all. Loved the wheelie bin vignette!
DS (9) is a nervous wreck right now (for no obvious reason - fear of intruders, 'is the door definitely locked', etc) and constantly pads down to let us know he's still not asleep - usually at a key moment in Downton Abbey series three (I am a woman obsessed, the last person in the UK to 'discover' DA)! I took him for the most lovely relaxing cranio-sacral session a week or so ago, which did seem to help for a few days, but he's up to his old tricks as of last night, sigh!
No news yet on the Auckland front but should hear soon, still also keen on Tauranga but still no jobs there - one day I am sure the right thing will turn up! Meanwhile, lots of love to you all xxx

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meerkate Mon 18-Mar-13 19:49:27

Time the moment that you insert series one, episode one into your dvd player very carefully my friend...because the rest of life suddenly becomes unimportant and trivial in comparison to the addictive world of DA! I always wondered what all the fuss was about - not any more grin

frikonastick Mon 18-Mar-13 20:25:00

I was going to download the first episode, now I'm scared!

It's been rainy and I left the laundry out last night by mistake and of course realized this morning I haven't got any way of dring clothes indoors. Our conaier will only be here on the 20th April, which means 30th before it will be delivered. SO, do I buy an inside clothes horse type thingy? Even though I have two in the container? Or do i white knuckle it and hope the weather clears long enough for laundry to dry?

WhatSheSaid Mon 18-Mar-13 22:24:09

I've gone off Downton Abbey, loved it at first but not so much now.

frik there will be plenty of dry days you can still hang washing out and it will still dry in a day even as the weather cools down in autumn. OTOH, clothes agrees are only $13 at the Warehouse so it wouldn't be a terrible idea to get one in case we get several days of rain at once...

WhatSheSaid Mon 18-Mar-13 22:25:24

clothes AIRERS of course, not agrees. What is it with autocorrect?

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frikonastick Tue 19-Mar-13 00:50:53

Ok, so bought a clothes horse dryer thing from warehouse, 20$ couldn't find a 13$ one whatshesaid. But actually, I feel fine about t because when my nice one arrives, this one can be relegated to the garage washroom for hanging beach stuff on.

We went kayaking on our new kayak yesterday!! It. Was. AWESOME. only casualty was DDs hat which blew into the sea and DH and I spent so much time buggering around trying to fish the bloody thing out with oars instead of getting out into the KNEE DEEP water, it disappeared. So, while I was at my sewing lesson last night (shove over Stella, there's totes not room for the two of us) DH took DD to buy a hat. The only store open was Kathmandu and while he was there they told him it was the start of their sale today, so guess where DH and I have been....... I can't bear to even think about how much we just spent....... But n our defense we have been in the ME for so long we literally don't even own a rain coat. We bloody do now though.

Which brings me to justas ie maker. Because we are also now really really over budget for this month and pie making sounds just the thing, especially as uber fussy DD likes pies. Although, DH just told me that buying a pie maker after we JUST had the we are so over budget talk, kind of defeats the object.....

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theartfulsoapdodger Tue 19-Mar-13 06:05:14

Littlestkiwi - thanks, the safe T sleep looks like just the thing. And there's a special price for two of them, a mere $250 <cries> grin

Frik - the kayaking sounds great! Must get round to it before the end of the summer, the kids loved it the last couple of years.

Justa- sympathies with your admin nightmare, I won't go on about my dealings with winz but they're not fun (still don't actually have the money they agree they owe me...)

thelittlestkiwi Tue 19-Mar-13 06:19:15

Artful- have a look on trademe. I managed with one and you can only use them till your wee one learns to undo velcro. There are places that sell them new like this one:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/baby-gear/sleep-aids/safety-wraps/auction-573895204.htm

Frik- we ran out of money three days into this fortnights salary. Sob.

notfarmingatthemo Tue 19-Mar-13 06:52:00

Well we are here. We arrived in Christchurch just over a week ago. Now the big hunt for somewhere to live starts. The girls love it here, so many parks. They are desperate to go to school, but can't until we find somewhere to live. We visited a school to see what NZ schools are like and was really impressed with what we saw.
We have a few houses to look at later on in the week really like the one we are looking at on Thursday.

Is there anyone in Christchurch or are you all on North Island?

febes Tue 19-Mar-13 07:27:31

I'm a lurker in North Canterbury. Welcome to Chch! Where are the houses you are looking at?

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frikonastick Tue 19-Mar-13 08:34:41

Yes it is!!!! Your sanity IS worth a dollar a throw!!!

Kmart here doesn't have the pie maker :-( but I did sit down to do the meal plan and will go do the meal plan shopping on Friday morning while DD is at kindy and DH goes to hit some golf balls.

Well done for delurking febes and welcome notfarmingatthemo, am with you on the parks. DD said to me today, mom, it's just so esksighting! So many! :-)

Littlest, we are both currently unemployed, and we did have a budget so we don't have to panic, but we haven't actually managed to STICK to the budget..... So now I am panicking <cuddles new warm anorak>

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ulcombebird Tue 19-Mar-13 17:15:37

Hi to notformingatthemo. Glad you are settling in. We are away for a week over Easter and then the job hunt begins in earnest. Hoping to arrive end of Sept. Will watch your posts with interest.

notfarmingatthemo Tue 19-Mar-13 21:07:10

@Febes we are looking mainly north Christchurch. Parklands, Burwood, Northwood, Belfast and as far north as Kaiapoi. I don't think we are very fussy. We want to rent.
Hi ulcombebird, get your dh to email mine he has found out some useful stuff re job. My dh started work monday and is enjoying it

theartfulsoapdodger Tue 19-Mar-13 21:40:57

Plenty of pie makers on trademe, I'm tempted...ds(16) keeps complaining I don't buy interesting enough pies - he can make his own then.

Justa, Friday is the one day I have help with the kids, am free from about 12, where are you meeting? I can bring the twins, or not.

Could have murdered ds(12) this morning - suddenly announced just as he was off to school he has water sports today - kayaking, paddle boarding, windsurfing, the lot - he didn't want to go and I had to run round finding all his togs etc. How brilliant is that compared to a day at school??? Kiwi kids are so lucky to have access to this stuff, and he doesn't appreciate it sad angry. Hopefully my younger ones will just think its normal as they grow up here, and be more natural water babies...

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theartfulsoapdodger Wed 20-Mar-13 04:43:35

In Mairangi Bay? No problem. Will probably bring babies and little ds and someone else to chase him around while I relax . If you decide on an exact time let me know, looking forward to it!

I know it's been said before but I just had to buy dd two items of school uniform - $113 shock. I love NZ but I'll never get used to that.

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frikonastick Wed 20-Mar-13 05:03:12

School uniform? Crumbs, I never even thought of that. So it's very expensive then? Bloody hell, DH and I really are going to have to take this finding a job thing seriously much sooner than anticipated. Oh well, it's been fun while its lasted! grin