Downgrading of Living Overseas

(45 Posts)
echt Sat 01-Dec-12 07:07:18

The addition of Home Decoration to the Homes and Garden section has bumped Living Overseas off the list as a reader checks in. It's subsumed in the ...... bit.

Any new reader would hardly automatically check out Homes and Gardens anyway as being the natural home of those overseas, but its placing in the list up until a couple of days ago meant it had some prominence.

It's the ONLY forum dedicated to MNers abroad, so can we have it re-placed on the list, MNHQ?

I agree - I actually originally stumbled over the Living Overseas section by googling, not via the main MN Talk menu at all! I would never have looked under Homes and Gardens, having no special interest in homes and gardens, and have never understood why it is where it is.

There are a disproportionate number of overseas MNers judging by posts in chat etc. but most of them never visit the overseas board - probably because they don't know it exists, as it is really not intuitively located. Sometimes I think MN doesn't want to overly encourage the overseas contingent though, as all the (presumably sponsored) product tests etc. are for UK MNers, so that although they let us join in, there is presumably nothing "in it" for MN having overseas MNers... sad

TheAccidentalExhibitionist Sat 01-Dec-12 08:18:10

Come on MNHQ! Living oversees bit is important to me too.

Labootin Sat 01-Dec-12 08:29:29

Homes and gardens has always puzzled me slightly though irrc there was a thread about it ages ago where mnhq gave a perfectly rational explanation.

That said I didn't realise there was a topic and foumd it by accident on active topics.

i have no objection to new cushion covers and feature walls BTW.

Echt have reported your post to make sure MNHQ See it .

Want2bSupermum Sat 01-Dec-12 18:01:16

This section is a vital resource for parents who are relocating. It is a scary prospect to move a family to a foreign country or start a family without any support near you. I has always struck me odd that this section is under homes and gardens.

Living Overseas should be under it's own section and then split into geographical regions with a general board for threads addressing issues that affect all families who relocate to foreign countries.

Clueless2727 Sat 01-Dec-12 20:23:59

I agree i found this site via google and can never remember which section it's in

MiauMau Sat 01-Dec-12 21:38:03

I keep on wanting to check it out and forgetting how to find it, it's a bit like an easter egg hunt (minus the chocolate)
I must confess that I've never checked the home and garden threads

Boomerwang Sat 01-Dec-12 23:22:57

It does need to be moved. I've used this site for a long time and didn't know about this area. The first place I checked was 'Mumsnet Local' for an international listing. I had to ask in 'site stuff' for this!

LittleTownofBethleHelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Sat 01-Dec-12 23:55:31

Evening. We've posted on the Site Stuff thread but only just spotted this one.

Here's what we said: Yep. Apols for this.

The whole Topics list needs a good shake-up and pruning and going over. When we do this, we'll do our level best to make sure Living Overseas is as visible as possible.

As you point out, echt, Homes and Gardens isn't exactly the most obvious place to look for Living Overseas. We'll def have a think about a more logical (and prominent) place to put it.

Please bear with us, though. Redoing the Topics list is a mahoosive Tech job and the Tech team already hate me for it

Thanks HelenMN smile

gordonpym Sun 02-Dec-12 19:56:47

Why not name the "travel " section, "Travel & World" and move Living overseas there? Moving and living abroad is a journey after all... the exact opposite as choosing the right wallpaper

echt Mon 03-Dec-12 06:45:32

Ooh, thanks for the swift response, HelenMN. V.chuffed after a day battling the obduracy of educational bureaucracy: We've ALWAYS done it this way.."grin

TanteRose Mon 03-Dec-12 06:52:53

i noticed that today

thanks for being on the case, HelenMN and TechTeam

ripsishere Mon 03-Dec-12 06:55:23

I wondered where it had gone.
I agree that it is a vital bit of kit. I would be surpassed to find a country that there ins't a MNer currently or someone who has lived there in the past.

ripsishere Mon 03-Dec-12 06:55:45

I may even be surprised.

EdwardtheEagle Mon 03-Dec-12 06:59:16

Love the idea of sections for different countries/regions. This forum was sioooooo important to me when I had my first Dc in france

FeijoaVodkaAndCheezels Mon 03-Dec-12 07:02:09

Don't forget that for some living in Britain is living overseas. We still need advice about overseas things too. Or just to stave off a bit of homesickness/ be reminded we aren't the only ones in this boat.

<mmm steak and cheese pie...>

ripsishere Mon 03-Dec-12 07:16:41

That is a really good idea. Europe/Far/Middle east/Australia etc.
I am so hungry right now, I would demolish a steak and cheese pie. Or just a steak one. Or just a cheese one. Or just the pastry.......................

echt Tue 04-Dec-12 07:16:35


hattymattie Wed 05-Dec-12 20:28:32

Travel Section would be a great idea - I too found Living Overseas by accident.

i think should topic n.1 of "in the club" and titled imperial blather (if she agrees)

actually travel section would be more relevant, you are right.

FellatioNelson Sat 08-Dec-12 16:03:08

I agree. I think it deserves a higher billing. Perhaps a topic of its own, broken down into geographical sub-sections. I think it would get more traffic if it was more visible. I'm sure plenty of overseas/expat MNers do not even know it is there.

ISawMummyAbroadKissingSanta Sat 08-Dec-12 16:25:59

I have complained about this before - so glad it is going to be addressed!

I agree that the section and MN in general is really important for us expats, and I think we could be a useful audience for advertisers too - lots of us fly home regularly enough - who better for airlines, travel goods companies etc to advertise too?

I think the Travel section is the perfect place and agree with everything wantobesupermum says.

LadyMargolotta Sat 08-Dec-12 16:29:44

I think Livinb Overseas needs a whole section to itself. And subsections of Europe, Asia, the Americas etc. Belgium, obviously, will need a whole section to itself, there are so many of us wink

FellatioNelson Sat 08-Dec-12 16:31:30

I was just going to say the same thing about ads ISaw. Imagine if the topic were broken down into sub-sections by geography. There is a whole untouched market there. We have loads of expat forums that are chock full of advertising aimed at us, but the websites themselves are ok for basic info about the place in question but are not a patch on MN for atmosphere, freedom of speech etc. so I still come here. I only use the other ones for very specific info about where I live.

GirlWithTheMouseyHair Sat 08-Dec-12 16:35:11

I'm not sure it's big enough to be its own topic section to be honest - but like the idea of it being in either In The Club or Travel

Def not Homes and Gardens!

GirlWithTheMouseyHair Sat 08-Dec-12 16:37:05

I agree about the expat forums (and find them all generally quite unfriendly towards newbies)

I just like being able to shoot the breeze with bona fide MNetters who have relocated abroad, without clogging up chat with stuff that will be irrelevant to UK based MNetters

FellatioNelson Sat 08-Dec-12 16:44:42

yes, exactly Girl. Agree at the moment there would not be enough traffic, but it is an untapped market. It could get huge if it was promoted.

Although bang goes my anonymity here I think! It would be pretty hard not to go bumping into people on MN who I bump into in Doha all the time. grin

complexnumber Thu 10-Jan-13 17:54:22

So... Living Overseas is still part of 'Homes & Gardening'

Come on MN! Put this back where it may be noticed, and even serve a need.

It's been over a month since you acknowledged that this particular thread was in a wrong position.

Do something about it.

echt Fri 11-Jan-13 11:02:51

Come on, MN, upgrade us. At least get us on the bar. Good Housekeeping and Property/DIY should cover Home Decs. Don't see why the last needs a separate designation. You said you'd do something and have done nowt.

complexnumber Fri 11-Jan-13 17:21:06


Labootin Fri 11-Jan-13 17:25:03

it could be a useful diversion MNHQ from pouffy threads and the general weirdness of late .... Think of it a procrastination tool

I am a lover of lists and priorities ...

OliviaPeacein2013Mumsnet (MNHQ) Sun 13-Jan-13 09:20:12


it could be a useful diversion MNHQ from pouffy threads and the general weirdness of late .... Think of it a procrastination tool

I am a lover of lists and priorities ...

grin Me too. Will see what I can find out for you.

LarkinSky Sun 13-Jan-13 14:01:49

Agree, more prominence for more traffic to this useful topic please smile

echt Thu 17-Jan-13 05:37:42

I've raised this again in Site Stuff. A bit galled to be relegated below Home Decs: pebbly shite and stuff.

mirai Thu 17-Jan-13 06:10:13

Yes let's put it in a proper topic and have it broken down by region please!!

TanteRose Thu 17-Jan-13 06:16:27

thanks echt!

hi mirai - how's things? cold and snowy, I guess grin

mirai Thu 17-Jan-13 11:07:43

NO!! Where is this snow that the whole world seems to be having?! Send it our way would you!!

mirai Thu 17-Jan-13 11:08:26

We had a bit of rain last weekend but apart from that we have been having beautiful clear blue skies and sunshine.... and it's absolutely bloody freezing!

Salbertina Thu 17-Jan-13 11:57:37

Baking here and definitely no snow, ever ... < drums fingers>

Thumbwitch Sun 20-Jan-13 22:56:35

Been filthy hot here on and off as well - currently cool and wet, which I infinitely prefer to the 44 deg we had 3 days ago! Looking like it's going up the scale again tomorrow, with high humidity as well - oh joy. My poor baby doesn't like it at all!

I am soooooo envy of the snowy pics on FB.

Tante - how's Japan these days? All the fallout sorted now or is there still some risk?

complexnumber Tue 22-Jan-13 09:54:20

And Living Overseas is back in the Premier League!

(Still looks a bit strange in Homes and Garden though)

gordonpym Tue 22-Jan-13 14:14:53

Thank You MNHQ!!!!

superfluouscurves Sat 26-Jan-13 15:19:40

Thank you for putting this back in a more visible place Mumsnet Towers!!

Much appreciated!!

(And such a life-line for keeping in touch with Blighty)

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