Der Nebel steigt, es fällt das Laub - a German and Austrian autumn thread(928 Posts)
A thread for anyone living in Germany or Austria, or anyone else who fancies a chat.
Previous thread here
Marking my place.
Thanks for the new thread, Antique. And what a particularly good choice of poem, may I say
even if there's no mention of wine?
Speaking of Nebel last night the moon was shining through a thin curtain of Nebel, looked spooky but nice! It'll be Laternenlaufen time for those of you with small dc soon. Vegan don't miss that one, could be some neighbourhood or play group walks organised for you to join in.
Found you. Thanks for the new thread Antique.
world there are stunning stretches of coastline in Wales. Also walking up Snowdon (highest mountain) is fabulous. There is also a railway going up but check whether it runs before you rely on it for transport. You could also check out the National Trust website for mire information. There is the Forest of Dean, too. If more thangs spring to mind, I'll post some more.
Have just cancelled my RHS membership (sob), have had it for nearly 20 years but just don't think I can afford all those luxuries with no income coming in for a while.
Re Abstrich/smear discussion, no idea about detection and survival rates but it is not only the frequency that is important but also the quality of the people who process the test. There was a scandal some five years ago in the UK. I think all is well now
or has been brushed under the carpet.
world I used to love going to Wales as a child. In fact, now you've started me thinking about it I might suggest Wales as a destination for next summer.
admylin I love autumn for the misty mornings and the slightly spooky atmosphere. I think DS is a bit young for Laternenlaufen this year but think I can hold out until next year!
The temperature has dropped under 20°c here (17°c today and yesterday) so it is now a legal requirement to wear your thick winter coat, scarf and boots. Woe betide anyone whose DC are not wrapped up in a snowsuit with those thick pushchair duvet things covering them with a lambskin underneath them. If I wrapped DS up like that he would melt in a little puddle of sweat. Saying that I did put 2 pairs of socks on him to walk to the little supermarket down the road yesterday. He was in a hoody & jeans otherwise so I think the socks were an amulet to ward off old lady comments
Linzer DH's mum makes us an Adventkranz every year but she most denfinitely has the Bastel gene (unlike me!)
Ah, but I'm assuming she's German Antique? I think you definitely have a head start if you were born in this part of the world. I've never seen MIL doing any kind of basteling, but the amount of cakes and biscuits she bakes more than makes up for it. I also seem to be missing the it's-December-so-I-must-bake-30-million-biscuits gene. Luckily DH has it and MIL will no doubt send us several boxes of homemade biscuits too.
Thread meet-up in Wales next summer?
Yes she is! She knits and sews clothes for DN and DS, she makes decorations to sell at the Christmas Bazaar, she bakes enough Weihnachtsplätzchen to feed a small army and she makes us a lovely Kranz every year.
I like the idea but am a bit put off by the meltdown SIL has if she hasn't had chance to bake biscuits with DN by 1st December. I feel it could become a slippery slope of domestic-perfection-worry so I prefer to stick to my slatternly ways.
SIL is amazing at all things craft-related
if a little highly-strung about these things so I may rope her in if anything like that is ever expected of me. She even made tiny Schultüte decorations for the table for DN's Einschulung. (I even made a mistake writing the card )
Dd was just saying yesterday that she can't wait for the Christmas market to start!! It's not as if we even go often as it always costs a fortune, although dd will be able to go with her friends this year as she happily goes into the city without me now!
Is your dd back tonight linzer? Hope your ds was OK about school today.
Antique I'm quite of all these MILs who send all the festive food over! I will be nagged by dd to get myself into the kitchen and make atleast 3 sorts of Plätzchen with her!
We've made a Kranz before with ivy and moss and stuff collected from the forest once too but it wasn't very stable so you had to move it really carefully so it didn't fall apart!
Hello everybody, I have just found this thread, hurray! I moved to Germany (Berlin) 6 months ago after 17 years away (am originally more or less German) and am waiting for it to feel like home. I think I should namechange. I used to live in Africa (before Berlin). And had a baby too. So original, me. ;-)
Afribaby hello and welcome back to Germany! I lived for 3 years in Berlin in Mitte. Where are you?
Woo Hoo for new thread!
Laternenlaufen is called Sant Martin Zug (?) here and tbh I am heartily sick of it, having been every year for the last 5 years - but it is definitely something to experience Vegan and is cool and atmospheric
the first couple of years you do it, can't believe I'm going to have to go every year for the next 5 years, til DC3 is though KiGa I have given up on going to the Kindergarten afternoon lantern making sessions as I am another one who lacks the bastle gene we re-use ones from previous years, but this year I am thinking the older 2 could take their large lego lanterns... not sure what they'll think!
Welcome to the thread Africbaby and I don't know if I ever said hello and welcome back to Germany to Bienchen, I am not currently very good at all at replying to everyone in my posts.
English I must admit I'm not glad to see the back of the Martinsfest after eight years of it. Luckily the DC always made their lanterns at nursery/KiGa with no parental involvement required, but I could think of more fun ways to spend an evening than walking in the cold (extreme cold some years) and dark from KiGa to church at a snail's pace. And then there were the stressful years when the nursery and KiGa Laternenfeste clashed...
Afri Hello and welcome to the thread. I also used to live in Berlin, but am now in Austria for my sins
such as laughing at their funny words.
admylin Yes, DD1 is due back at 4.30 pm. I haven't heard anything (even via the mother who knew the father with a DD with a phone) so assume that it's all gone OK! DS went into school with no problems today, although his friend wasn't so keen and didn't want to leave his mum when she dropped him off at our house this morning.
Antique MIL used to make clothes for me! She's more or less given up sewing now, but I still come across some of her handmade clothes in the
mostly unwearable hand-me-downs we get from SIL.
DS has a new friend here today - actually the younger brother of one of DD2's friends, who's also coming over to play but she and DD2 are still at school. Is it just Austrian children who refuse to eat what they don't know or are all children like this nowadays? <old gimmer> I'd made a bolognese sauce with meatballs, which he viewed with great suspicion and said "ich will eine normale Soße". But otherwise, he and DS are playing very well together - quite a relief considering that DS had already announced several times that he wasn't going to play with him (they hardly know each other as they're at different schools).
admylin I've just been online to check when our Christmas market starts. Not soon enough for my liking!
Hi Afribaby! Welcome to the thread. How are you finding being back after such a long time away?
English I think it's called Martinszug here too (or something similar). I can totally imagine you would get sick of it after a few years. In fact, that's how I generally feel about Karneval these days.
Argh, you've just reminded me of Fasching Antique! Now that's something I didn't even get excited about the first year and my enthusiasm continues to wane every year. I'm another one looking forward to the Christmas markets, though; I found out earlier today that the Adventmeile opens on 23rd November and have already entered it in the calendar.
Ooh hope DD had fun Linzer - I bet the phone was taken away from the friend who took it by the teachers
My MIL doesn't sew or knit (though I think she used to) but she does Bastle and Pletzchen bake in true German style (as well as the jam and Schnaps making), despite (as I said) not being a real German either I guess Croatians have the Bastel gene, or she got used to over-compensating years ago perhaps...
DH's grandma used to knit me socks I am unsure why, I think maybe because I am genetically incapable of wearing house shoes... they are very slippery to wear on their own and too thick to wear with shoes/ boots, so although they are well made and warm they mainly just sit in my drawer... They are also rather colourful...
Muppet your SIL sounds more and more highly strung everything you post about her, it is no wonder her DD was a bit of a madam when younger... being a perfectionist is all well and good and I am sure in some ways (for example in some lines of work) it is a very good thing, but I'll stick with you being on the slatternly ways, it's more relaxing for everyone who's path one crosses I imagine! Still I hope she manages to cope with her sister's funeral and loss without coming unravelled herself
DS1 came hoem from KiGa with a black eye yesterday, he wouldn't tell KiGa staff what had happened and he says there were no staff in the garden when it did happen, but he told me and DD last night that he was in a fight with another boy, and I got him to tell them this morning, so they've allegedly sorted it out - though inevitably the other boy involved had a different story to DS1 (which he only told once DS1 had told his side)... I hope this is a one off! I largely agree with children not being over closely supervised and being allowed to reach their own solutions, but obviously not when it comes to physical fights and black eyes! It isn't the first time I've wondered if the KiGa staff are a bit too Laissez Faire with supervision during outdoor time...
Just home and drinking fennel tea <not cricket, I know> and marking my place on the new thread before I go off and frantically practise my part for this week's scary concert.
Antique sorry to hear about your SIL's sister. I hope the family manage to get through this difficult period.
English I've also taken dd with me to gynae appts before. When she was small the nurses just held her and last time I took some books with me for her to look at. There is always a toy corner in the waiting room, so I assume it's expected. Having a smartphone as emergency entertainment also helps!
MIL only bakes vile diabetic-friendly plätzchen - sweetened with agavensaft (which is apparently even worse for you than sugar) and topped with what appears to be cocoa mixed with rum. SIL however is excellent at making plätzchen, so I always hope for a bag or two from her. Actually, I really must start teaching English to pensioners again, I usually could barely get through all the biscuits I was given by my VHS group!
Hello, afribaby and everyone else.
I used to take DD to my midwife apts in the UK (in fact twice in the UK I took 3 small girls all under the age of 2.5, as I was a child minder then - they were fascinated and angelic but I got some funny looks in the waiting room with my pregnant belly and what could have looked like 18 month old twins and a slightly older one of 2 and a bit A pregnant mum with non walking twins was waiting to see the midwife too once and sat next to me to chat to and was disappointed when I admitted only one was mine). I also took her to my Fraunartz apts here in my final trimester, and to my 6 week check (DS1 too but he was a tiny baby obviously and slept through it in the maxi cosi - DD was a co-operative toddler though!
I took DS1 to DD's Augenartz apt when she was 3 and he was 18 months and attempted to settle him with toys and a snack in the corner as she was worried about sitting in the big sight test chair on her own and wanted to be on my lap - and in the space of about 20 seconds DS1 managed to turn all the equipment and lights in the entire place off!! They were not amused... Henry is, if anything, a less co-operative toddler than DS1 was and would probably manage to climb out of a window (they always have all the windows open) or up the examination chair thing while I was in it, or turn off all the machines/ re set the computer... All toddlers are not created equal unfortunately when it comes to being good and compliant at other people's medical apts
On a totally different topic - German Christmases - when we first moved here MIL still used to have real, lit, candles on her tree, is that still common practice? She still decorates with real candles on the tree but no longer lights them and has electric lights on the tree too now, in deference to the grandchildren.
English It's still common practice here to have proper candles - and to light them - on your Christmas tree; I was when I first saw my ILs lighting their candles. We have an artificial tree, with electric lights, and put it up mid-December so break all the rules.
cheas I actually quite like fennel tea - well, liked it, as I only drank it when I was bfing. Good luck for the concert!
DD1 is back home safe and sound (over an hour early) and seems to have had a good time. She was sharing with two other girls and said that the first night, she slept in the double bed and the other two in the bunk beds but on the second night they all slept in the double bed as they were frightened of the two scary pictures on the wall!
admylin, thanks for the link to the festive CD.
world, aw! Maybe MIL knows your Lewis man! The wedding at the weekend was in Inverness. The couple getting married are from Stornoway.
English, we were just watching a German cartoon today and there is a Christmas scene with lit candles on the tree! Doesn't look very safe!
Thanks for the heads up about Laternelaufen. DS will like it! I love that time of year, mainly for bonfire night and fireworks. I guess we will miss that here.
Hello and welcome, Afri! And Bienchen, I think I was offline for a bit when you joined. What a lovely busy group this is!
Ha ha Linzer, I've put the Christmas market opening day in my calendar too . Glad your DD had a nice time.
English I hope the issue at Kiga is resolved soon. A black eye sounds quite nasty! PIL also have lit candles on their Christmas tree. We won't be there for Christmas this year so no chance of DS burning the place down, luckily.
cheas I quite like fennel tea! I also drank it by the bucket when BFing. Good luck with the concert!
After my moan this morning about winter coats and snowsuits, I was accosted by an old man on the way home from the supermarket today and berated for DS' lack of gloves. Seriously. It's September. When I argued with him (which I was really proud of myself for, I usually just shuffle away muttering) he just said 'na, dann, viel Glück', looked pointedly at DS' (warm) hands and stomped off! 'Tis the season, apparently!
Wow, busy thread! Thanks for the welcome everyone.
admylin I live in Charlottenburg, close to the Schlosspark. I am on the scummier side of the Spree.
AntiqueMuppet I've been gone for so long I don't feel particularly German at all. I speak the language, which helps.
Afri I lived in Charlottenburg both years that I spent in Berlin (one area much more salubrious than the other!) and used to take the youngest DC to a childminder near the Schlosspark when I was an au pair - it was somewhere near Klausener Platz but I can't remember the name of the street.
Antique Oh how ridiculous; it wouldn't be any of his business in the depths of winter, but in September? If it's any consolation, people do get less interfering as the children get older; a woman did ask the DDs the other day whether they weren't cold , but she was quite friendly about it and tbf it was a fairly cold day and they were both in T-shirts. Well done for arguing back, anyway - I could usually never think of anything to say back to them!
Am enjoying a nice quiet evening while DH is away, although it turns out he'll be back tomorrow evening rather than Friday as I'd thought. I will not spend the entire evening on MN!
Good evening all!
Well the Leihund is fine, as suspected her ears were poorly again. She hadn't eaten much over the weekend and short of feeding her ice cream (I wouldn't really ) a trip to the vet was for the best.
Vet was really nice and not too expensive (But I know the owner will re-imburse me so really not an issue), and she showed me how to put the medicine in the ears. Our fluffy friend seems much more her old self and we have her for another week so really didn't want her suffering.
I will catch up on the thread in a bit . I seem to have been busy with nothing the last couple of days.. couldn't organise my way out of a paper bag this week!
A student finished his course of lessons today and he gave me some lovely biscuits and a little present for the baby too. So sweet! Awww, went all mushy
Welcome Beinchen and Afric! Lovely to have more members here, I think this is one of the cosiest communities on MN
What, what new thread already bear with me please, have to read all your responses first.
nutella thank goodness you went to the vet's, ear ache is really painful when we get it so little dog must have been in pain too. Hope she feels better soon.
linzer my dh is also still away too. He's in a small family hotel where they have told him that he has been given their best suite as he's a doctor and they don't get doctors very often! It's next door to a casino and across a square and garden to the atlantic sea. I'm so
I was going to check out ploom's TV channel but I'm so tired I don't think there's much point as I'll be off to bed in half an hour! Is anyone else like this? I used to come home from a full days work, get ready and go back out to socialise until late at night. Now I couldn't imagine going out in the evening past 10pm.
Afri must admit, I never ventured much further than Mitte when we lived in Berlin unless to go to a museum or an airport! I did have a coffee across from the Schloss once! Hope you feel settled in soon.
english those homemade knitted socks are so cosy, how nice of your dh's gran to make you them! Got my first pair in Germany from a German friend and wore them until they fell to bits! Don't know anyone who would knit me a pair now so have to wear shop bought fluffy socks!
Well, I am going to bed to enjoy a whole night of no snoring again. Last night was bliss!
Hello everyone. welcome afri and to Bienchen welcome back in Germany.
Would like to have some exchange about how you feel about leaving one place after a long time and now being back "home"...
Thanks to all of your wales suggestions, I really would love to talk more about Wales and also if we please could maybe talk more about York and Newcastle area trips, maybe anyone could help out there, too.
vegan who knows the chance sounds quite high, so I better keep stumm
ploom I believe that a general recommendation is once a year, if I remember it right this was also the case in the U.S....there is a lot of political/health insurance costs issues involved in those decisions which vary from country to country, but I believe and please don't nail me on this one, that the UK might be quite the minority by recommending the 3-year check up interval compared to other countries in the same league with the UK.
I am sorry, I need to catch up with all your responses and think i am missing the one or the other . My apologies in advance.
Laternenumzug, love it love love it, and I am saying this with the voice of my inner child who loved those. Adventskranz is simply something which is part of home, and the entire Adventszeit and everything surrounding it including building your own Knusperhäuschen.
It's wonderful, but now I have to apologise again for my possible rudeness, but I will most likely not share much about Christmas as of now, as I am still starting to enjoy autumn first and things such as Erntedankfest and also of course all the upcoming days and holidays ending the Kirchenjahr....and when those days are over then I will start getting festive and excited about Christmas...
disclaimer: <I understand lots of things need to get organised before Adventszeit>
nutella you are so right, it is a very cosy thread
admylin I feel you...I am also going to have an early night.
admylin she is being very good and letting me do the medicine (I think it's actually a salve for her ears , apparently her ears are really hairy and the ear canal is really tiny so she has this problem a lot <bless the small fluffy monster>). I giver her a little (owner approved) treat after the ear treatment which she loves
Oh, and, after several occasions of feeling my bump is small today I was asked if I am having twins!
The worst thing is I was at pregnancy yoga and the lady who asked me is about to burst in the next week or two. Very will be throwing away the loose top I wore to yoga! I'm 27 weeks tomorrow and there was a lady who is 35(ish) weeks and she was obviously much bigger than me <humph>
I'm off to bed
with a stack of chocolate biscuits
Nutella Glad the dog is on the mend. How strange about the twins question - maybe she thought your bump looked twin-shaped. Or maybe it was just her pregnancy brain!
world Yes, I agree it's a bit early to be thinking about Christmas - but when you see the date that the Advent market is going to open and it reminds you of Glühwein, which you self-sacrificingly did without for seven years due to either being pregnant or bfing, you can't help feeling a little excited. Plus there's nothing much to look forward to here in between now and Christmas, unless you count Austria's Nationalfeiertag.
Re smear tests, I don't know whether the UK really is in the minority. Yes, annual screening was recommended once a year when I was in the USA but I have the feeling that new guidelines were announced not too long ago and that annual tests are no longer considered necessary (have just found this confirming it). According to this (but a UK site so may be biased, I suppose), the UK isn't alone in recommending that smear tests are carried out every three years, and experts consider that three- and five-yearly examinations are sufficient. So why am I going every six months?
To get my money's worth from my health insurance rather than them squandering it all on 20-week Kuren for pensioners.
admylin How long will your DH be away for? I also enjoyed the lack of snoring last night! I don't expect he'll have been living the high life in Romania (I think it was there that he stayed in a particularly dodgy hotel where he said he felt very nervous), but I'm often very of the places where he's stayed.
nutella - think people sometimes cant help themselves and have to make some comment about a baby bump. Think you need to come up with some witty replies! Hope you enjoyed the chocolate biscuits .
world - I agree that maybe financial pressures in the UK limit the frequency of smears but I looked at data yesterday on the web that showed no great difference in mortality rates from cervical cancer between the UK and Germany - in fact the UK was slightly better. I'm always a bit suspicious of the money making side of the German healthcare system and think there should be a middle ground between the UK and German healthcare systems.
Welcome africababy - must be a culture shock to be back "home" after so long away.
admylin - I'm also in bed early most nights - often asleep by 10.30 at the latest . We're such party animals .
antique - how rude about that man telling you off - its so not cold enough for gloves! But I didnt check the weather this morning and have sent ds2 to school without a rain jacket and its now peeing down - I deserve a telling off.
Well I'm off to breakfast with a friend now - have a nice day.
Linzer I totally agree with wanting to get your money's worth out of the health insurance! DP signed me up to the one he uses (and to be fair they are good) and I've been paying into it since I moved here. When I was at school learning German and didn't have much time for teaching and earning money I really wanted to throw myself down the stairs since I'd paid for healthcare I didn't need! - some months I made enough to pay for the health insurance and not much more
<note: I wouldn't actually throw myself down any stairs or injure myself... it was just tempting>
Although now the Krankenkasse should pay 80% of the pregnancy yoga, 80% of the aqua gymnastics, I think all of the Geburtvorbereitungskurse and for a Hebamme... So I am finally feeling better off!
Linzer dh is away until Friday night. Had another great sleep - I am going to look like a new woman by the time he gets back!!
I think seeing as dh works with neurosurgeons they tend to organise their conferences in exclusive resorts. The last one in Athens was well outside Athens in a very expensive marina area. This one is outside Lisbon near a golf course and plenty of 5 star hotels and marinas! Dh is not staying with his colleagues as he'd have to pay the expensive hotel in advance and it's just too much at 200 to almost 300 a night.
nutella the little dog looks lovely on the fb pics! Could you imagine having one yourself? Well done on doing the yoga by the way and how strange about the twins question?!
Ploom it would have to write down the witty replies and have them on a post-it on the back of my hand at the moment! brain is like a sieve, but with bigger holes!
Enjoy your breakfast!
Although on the feeling the cold front I'm definitely a weirdo - again at pregnancy yoga. I picked a spot by the window because the rooms sometimes get hot and the teachers often keep a window or two open. Opposite me the lady had on long-sleeve top, tracksuit bottoms, socks and kept a lightweight jacket nearby to keep warm.
I had on my loose
deeply unflattering short-sleeve top and a pair of leggings... I think I wouldn't be putting gloves on me or anyone else at the moment either Antique!
Ploom Enjoy your breakfast! I think I was confusing mortality rates for cervical cancer with those for breast cancer (very little difference, despite screening starting 15 years earlier here), so it's interesting to hear there's not much difference wrt cervical cancer either.
Nutella It's good that the Krankenkasse is covering so much of your pregnancy-related expenses; that (and having a baby, paed visits, etc.) really makes paying into your health insurance worthwhile.
You may also find it useful, once the baby is here, to carry around post-its with
cutting witty comebacks written on them for people who tell you your baby is underdressed when he/she isn't wearing a hat, scarf and gloves in May, for example. Or any time the temperature drops below 20°.
admylin DH stayed at a Disney resort in Florida once, but I don't suppose that compares! (And he said he felt very out of place.) I'm equally of trips to Oxford and London that he has coming up; maybe in 15 years I'll be able to start going with him!
Morning admylin yeah the dog is a sweetie, she is nice and quite and relaxed (usually).... I'm trying to fool DP into believing dogs are always like that so that we can have one , although I don't think he's fallen for it. Leihund's owners seem really happy to have somewhere the dog enjoys being though so thats a nice complement for future pet ownership I think. I miss having a pet.....
Linzer From what I've read of the collective experience on here I'm going to need a lot of post-its! Although I'll probably need help from DP to write them so that they at least make sense Maybe I could start a new kind of happy slapping game, where I slap a post-it on someone when they say something?
Or just learn the German equivalent of "mind your own business you nosy.... something something..."
I have a student at Bahlsen who gave me four packets of chocolate biscuits on Tuesday... I gave one packet away, have eaten one (DP helped --when he got the chance--) and another is already open.... I will look like it's twins soon!
Thank you so much for the very warm welcome, everyone. And my, you are a chatty lot!
Very jealous of those with husbands that travel for a few days, always a good chance to stock up on duty free and gifts from foreign countries.
On the retorts to those meddling Germans you could try "Wenn ich Rat brauche, dann melde ich mich". It gets the message across but isn't downright rude.
Nutella we had a dog until we had to rehome her (with friends that she already knew) when she started to growl at DD & bared her teeth. But I have very fond memories of her lying across my tummy when pg and being very protective of me. She was fine as well when baby was born but once DD was mobile it was a different kettle of fish. If you get a dog you might want to wait until DC is at least a toddler
and don't get a JRT as they can be vicious. With the Leihhund you have the best of both worlds!
world I am not back yet, am sort of in transition, winding down my business, planning the move and frantically trying to find a FT job out there so that DH can join us soon. I am calm during the day but quite sleepless at night, it is a lot of responsibility.
Health insurance as another hurdle for us as I left nearly 23 years ago and they have to trawl the archives for any records. Again not a problem as soon as I find a job above EURO 400 otherwise prohibitively expensive.
Off to tackle the evergrowing ivy and hopefully lift the last of the potatoes with the school children.
Good morning everyone
I am so sorry, but I can hardly follow up with all what's been said so far, but I just wanted to add very quickly (without having read the links yet) that mortality rate in itself is to me personally not of much use.
There could be cancer diagnoses without the patient ending up dead.
All I want is to have a check-up which look closely at any changes and is there a change noticed, then I want it to be as early as possible. This is my own take on this.
Anyone working with female patients who need all kinds of treatment due to the various forms and stages of cancer (or other kind of cell changes), benign and malignant, will have the opinion that once a year is very much recommended.
Also, during those annual check-ups there is a look at changes of the Blase und Urinleiter, eventuelle Gebärmuttersenkung, evtl. Zystenbildungen und und und
disclaimer: <not a hypochondriac at all>
world If we're talking about the annual check-up including all those kinds of things as well, then yes - obviously regular check-ups are good (but, unless things have changed since I left the UK, those kinds of checks aren't done routinely). However, if we're talking about smear tests alone, then many experts do seem to believe that every 3-5 years is sufficient. The report I linked to says that various US bodies "specifically recommend[s] against annual Pap testing". But I do see what you're saying and personally go for all kinds of tests that I wouldn't (or wouldn't even be able to) in the UK - an annual medical, six-monthly appointments at the dermatologist's, etc. and am very grateful that I do have that option
even if I'm paying an arm and a leg for it.
Bienchen Ooh, I do like that retort! I may have to write it down on a post-it for future reference.
Nutella Or how about an extra-large post-it stuck onto the baby saying "Thank you for your concern, but I do not believe I am underdressed for the weather."
Mmm, chocolate biscuits... that reminds me that it's coffee and hobnob time!
Linzer yes that's what I am talking about, and that's what we started discussing in the beginning, at least I thought so. We started talking about why would one actually go every year to a check-up and the comparison with the UK of every year was made etc, especially when some find their visits not so pleasant.
And you mentioned your twice a year visits due to other benefits such as receiving gratis contraception and I thought those are typical reasons for twice a year instead of annual visits.
And I mentioned those annual visits to be very sensible due to various things being looked at and how it then switched to smear tests etc. I have no clue.
For example, Gebärmutterschleimhaut can have very quick and radical changes and many things caught early enough are very easily treatable...most women who end up with some sorts of diagnosis tend to report how much they regret not going to regular check-ups as so many things can get caught early without requiring much hefty treatment.
And, this is an offer (health recommendation) and no-one is required to take up that offer, each to their own when it comes to their own health.
world You're right, that's what we did start talking about - and I'm not really disagreeing with you at all. I think how it switched to smear tests is because that's all the check-up really is in the UK and so we (or maybe it was just me ) were comparing outcomes for women in the UK and Germany/Austria and discovered that more regular smear tests/check-ups don't seem to make a difference to mortality rates. All the extras you get in Germany (you don't get them everywhere in Austria; my last gynae never used to do an ultrasound, for example) are obviously added bonuses. I'm happy to go every 6-12 months and feel quite reassured after each visit, so really wasn't trying to argue that we should go less often. I think the argument just went off on a bit of a tangent really.
Also, wanted to add that the FA is very much the right person to talk to about hormonal changes such as sweating, fatigue, hip, tail-bone, lower back issues, oedema as in swollen feet and fingers, body and facial hair issues, static problems especially after pregnancy, FA does urine, stool, and blood tests and would look into unclear lower tummy pains, without one having to go to the Hausarzt first and then being referred to other specialists anyway...
And many women have build a good rapport with the FA over years, so instead of doing regular weigh-ins, blood pressure check-ups and all the other lab tests they go ahead and opt for doing all this in the FA practice instead of with the Hausarzt because at least they can do the breast checks and the checks of some of the internal organs then as well...
....and this good rapport over years then makes it for many women easier (or they show up with partner) to also speak about sexuality and sexual health related issues...
so rant over
I was talking about smear tests and cervical cancer maybe because I went for a smear test yesterday . Apart from also having a breast check, the FA did nothing different to the nurse in the UK so the time between checks was the only difference to me. No Ultrasound, urine or bowel checks but then since I'm otherwise completely healthy I didnt feel I needed them.
Mortality rates are extremely important when discussing the benefits of regular check ups because thats the whole point of them - early diagnosis & early intervention to reduce mortality but doing check ups more often in Germany doesnt seem to be having an effect on the mortality rates which I dont quite understand.
Anyway I've been for my smear yesterday so now its up to me to decide when I go back and if its after 2 years I'll probably still feel its too soon .
Had a lovely breakfast - ate far too much. Got a busy taxiing about afternoon before ds's parents evening. Not sure how I'm supposed to be in both classrooms at the same time but I suppose it definitely gets me out of being Klassensprecher for one of the classes .
Just to add some science to the debate (got my masters head on!)
"There is insufficient high-quality evidence from randomized
controlled trials (RCT) to increase screening
interval based on prior negative cytology results for any
age group." American Society for Colposcopy and Cervical Pathology 2012
That's what I was going to ask - whether all these extra tests are included in the normal check-up in Germany as they generally aren't here. In which case, I think you can compare the check-ups in the UK and Germany/Austria and their frequency. My gynae doesn't do urine, stool or blood tests either, at least not as routine.
world It's great if you can build up a good rapport with your Frauenarzt, but you have to be able to find a good one to start with. All the non-private ones in the town where I live are male (I'd really prefer a female) and I haven't heard anything very positive about any of them. I went to a female one in the next town but wasn't particularly happy with her either. I now go to a friend who's private but charges me half-price (plus I get 80% back from my insurance) so it's affordable, but it took me seven or eight years to find a gynae I was happy with.
Ploom Glad you enjoyed your breakfast. What a shame you can't be Klassensprecher for both classes; I'm sure you're devastated. Maybe you could pop in and out of both classes at convenient moments, cunningly avoiding the vote in both.
Crumbs did the last thread fill up? I'm not sure what happened to me to be honest!!!
Anyway, hi again everyone and I hope you and your families are well
Linzer that is an issue, I see what you mean. They don't say without reason that it is one of the hardest things to finally find the right dentist and FA you're truly happy and comfortable with.
cake what do you mean, you don't know what happened to you????
I have to go, am leaving early cause I have a Court appointment today to be a witness. First time ever for me to show up as a witness, will see how this goes.
One guy has totally out of the blue started a fight with another innocent young man at the bus stop and then continued to threaten and then beat up the men in the bus and the bus driver was so scared himself.....well I am now invited as a witness, will see how this will go, am slightly worried about this perpetrator, he was totally nuts and in Court you have to state your full name, date of birth and address
Good luck world. Hope it goes ok.
Hi cake - nice to "see" you again . How's the restaurant getting on? Did you have your craft afternoon? Will keep my fingers crossed for a warm weekend and start to October to keep the punters coming in!
ha ha linzer at my faux devastation. Not sure how its going to work but the classes are on top of one another so popping in and out seems like a good plan. I quite like &respect my FA - as much as you can like a FA- but when I get round to having the gynae surgery I need I wont be going to him - will be going to the nearest big University clinic for hopefully the best care. Think you've got a good thing if its a friend that you go to (or is there a higher embarrassment factor?).
world as in, life moves so quickly, the thread moves on and suddenly I haven't posted in ages! Don't know what happened
Hi Ploom, our craft event is on the 7th October. I'm currently trying to find two more stallholders, which is a bigger pain than you would think! People don't want to sell their stuff!!
We could do with some good weather in October - the last 2 or 3 weeks have been dead and we've got lots of bills to pay
On a happy note, I have been asked to be a bridesmaid for my friend's wedding It'll be good motivation to lose my baby weight as baby comes at Christmas and she's getting married in June...
world That must have been quite a scary experience on the bus. Hope it all goes OK at court.
Cake Hello again! I was wondering where you were when we were talking about Wales a day or two ago. Exciting news about the wedding.
Ploom Do you know when you'll be having the surgery? It felt a bit weird the first time I went to see my friend but it's fine now and not really too embarrassing, although (possibly TMI alert) it can feel a little strange discussing things like libido when we both know each other's DHs.
I've not had any comments about underdressing DS, but one woman did tell me children should not be dressed in green! Huh? Any idea what that was about?
Vegans How strange!
Linzer I was really lucky and found a FA I like straight off here. She's actually American and I'm not sure whether that helped to put me at ease a bit more. She doesn't do stool/blood/urine tests as part of the normal check-up either. I think I only had blood and urine the first time I went and then during pregnancy.
cake Good luck with the craft event! I hope you manage to find two more stallholders. Congratulations on being your friend's bridesmaid
Ploom Glad you had a nice breakfast! Hope the parents evenings go ok and that you don't have to do too much flitting about.
world Good luck in court! That sounds a little scary.
Bienchen That's a good phrase! I'll have to try and remember that next time (especially now I'M brave enough to argue back!)
nutella Love the post-it note happy slapping idea!
Weid weather today, can't decide whether it is going to clear up or start thundering again, so I think staying in with a cup of tea is the way forward.
Antique it's definitely a stay in with cup of tea day here too! Although I just went out to drop ds off at table tennis and he turne dup back at home 15 minutes later as it was cancelled and no one had thought to tell all the boys (atleast they all turned up and it wasn't a case of ds being the only one who hadn't got the message/listened last time)!
Vegans do you think the green clothing complaint could have been lost in translation?
cakebump I thought you must have bene busy at the restaurant and no time for mn or something! How is the baking going? where did you learn to bake? I do some baking but I don't know if 100% of it would be worthy of selling in a restaurant!
ploom well done and you have my admiration for even thinking of going to both meetings! My head can't take more than one parents meeting so if they coincide I decide which is the realyl reallymost important and send a note in or ask another parent to excuse me at the other.
bienchen how scary that the dog didn't get on with your dd. Good that you noticed on time and could rehome your dog with someone you chose and knew.
nutella dd's hockey teacher told her he got his dog at a special farm that takes rescue and tierheim dogs so they can have a better life before finding a new home, now she's wondering where it is! I think you're doing it the best way, a leihund is great! Now dd needs a friend who occasionaly needs a dogsitter!
A big wave to everyone else, can't keep up - it's so busy here at the moment isn't it?
admylin I don't know what it's like at secondary school, but I find that 75% of the things covered at the primary school parents' evenings seem to be the same in every class so (theoretically) you don't need to go to more than one - which I've masochistically done for the last two years.
Antique I would have jumped at the chance to go to an American gynae (or ob-gyn, I suppose I should say) if we had any native speaker doctors here; I'm sure there are some in Vienna, but we don't get many out here in the sticks. (English native speakers at all, let alone doctors.)
Vegans I've never heard of children not supposed to be dressed in green either; how strange.
Have just got the DC into bed so am now going to enjoy my last half hour of peace and quiet before DH gets home. Not that he's particularly noisy, I hasten to add. Or that we even have a huge amount of energy to talk to each other in the evenings. I struggle to be sociable after about 7 pm, so it's a good thing I rarely go out any more.
Bienchen as much as I would love a dog I've already decided it can wait until all children (we're starting with one... see how we go ) are beyond baby stage. I can't imagine trying to train a puppy and a LO I'm having enough trouble on my own without making life unnecessarily complicated although the Leihund is thankfully low maintenance! Which is also deceptive when it comes to pet ownership.... just don't let my DP know!
Linzer LOL at you being a masochist!
I like my FA, she is really nice and I know she explains things to me clearly so that I understand; of course it also means I can trust her which I really really appreciate. Never had a good Dr relationship in the UK, but then every time I went I tended to see a different person not sure that is really helpful in terms of patient care.
admylin maybe getting your DD a job helping out at a tierheim or similar would be helpful in staving off the "can we have a dog" questions (depending on how old she is)
I don't think it was a translation error, she spoke really good English. I'd seen her the day before in another part of town, it was a Saturday, and we were near a church, she asked me if I'd been to church in the morning, I said no, and she looked at me like I was going to hell! She was a bit strange, really, I found it hard to shake her off.
Haven't seen her since the green clothes incident, and that was months ago. I think it might be a religious thing, not wearing green?
Waving at everyone,
don't dress children in green? What's all that about? Strange!!! Why do people feel they can just barge in with all these unsolicited opinions, sometimes I think as soon you start to get visibly pregnant and and then most of your time as a parent, all these people come out of their holes with their unsolicited advice and opinions arrrrggggghhhhh
Being a witness wasn't as bad as I thought. The assailant looked completely different, all well dressed and different hair cut and so calm.
I thankfully didn't need to state publicly my full date of birth and only needed to say my current age, and they also did not make me so openly my address, which was very sensible I think.
Well his lawyer apologised for any fears and upset his client has caused and asked me if I would accept an apology and if it would be okay for his client to address me directly, which I accepted and then his client apologised for all the fright and upset and inconvenience etc.
And I wasn't even the victim who was physically assaulted and felt quite safe as I was sitting beside two strong men who also kept an eye on the "nutcase". But the young man he threatened and then attacked, I felt so sorry for.
Anyway, it was all okay and am glad it's over and really always hope not to be at the wrong time in the wrong place, those unfortunate events really could happen anytime anywhere...
world glad it is all over for you and wasn't as bad as expected, stillI can think of better ways to spend a day;)
vegans very odd comment re green clothing and certainly not common attitude. AFAIK muslims regard green as a special colour reserved for the prophet Mohammed, so maybe something that a strict muslim would adhere to but certainly not expect that from other religions.
admylin our friends used to look after our dog when we were travelling and could not take her along. They adored her and jumped at the chance to have her all the time (semi retired, living in the countryside, active lifestyle, no kids = perfect parents for her)
cakebump here people fall over themselves to have a stall and make some money. Wonder why...
We have been invited to the Laternenumug at DD future Kiga, have ordered a Laternenstab from Amazon. Apparently things have moved on from my childhood, we had real candles in paper lanterns /. Have not secured a lantern yet but have a cupboard full of chinese ones. Will I get away with a red one with some black lettering on?
world so glad you did not have your full personal details in public, would put anyone off to act as a witness I would have thought.
Vegan i have heard that green inside the house is meant to be unlucky - I think its a very old superstition (I bought lovely thick green carpets for throughout my first flat - they were lovely honest - and the carpet fitters admired it but said "lots of people won't have green in the house"... Never heard it applied to children's clothing though...
I have seen a few FA from the same practice, but not especially liked any of them, the one who I had for my last pregnancy made the apts seem largely pointless and failed to tell me things she should - the surgeon asked me if I'd decided to have a tubal litigation at the same time due to it being my 3rd section with poor scar condition, and although I wouldn't necessarily have chosen to if I had had more time to think about it, it should have been brought up earlier in my pre-natal care, not at the pre-op! Can't say I have any fondness or great respect for any of the FA I have seen - though like Linzer we have very limited choice as there is only one practice in the nearest large town, and I would feel too self indulgent taking up a large part of the day and arranging child care for after school etc. to travel into Munich to see a specific doctor if I wasn't actually ill...
Cake hope you're not over doing it - I haven't forgotten about the baby things, it is on my list for tomorrow or next week at the latest to sort through!
Exactly Bienchen I was really worried about that. He seemed like someone who doesn't have much to lose...and the police showed up while we were all in the bus and he continued with them as well and in the end they needed 4 people to restrain him and take him away. Today his lawyer added in his apology the explanation that his client was under the influence of alcohol and cocaine...
And it didn't take a day, only half an hour, but I had to go all the way to court and then drive back to work and make up some of my time, which is quite calm these past weeks, but from next month on I am again on different schedule and will do Aussendienst again for the next 10 weeks, so that will be quite stressful.
I also had real candles in my Laterne, loved it. Someone asked about real candles on the Weihnachtsbaum, yes some still have it, I never did, as I find it too dangerous and I want to be able to chill and don't want to worry about fires
As far as I know not wearing green has nothing to do with islamic religious practices.
Wow English I have never heard about this superstition?! How interesting, i actually love green and dressed my child in green as well, which she looked fabulous in and one day out of the blue she asked not buy any piece of green clothing anymore...and I obliged
How strange all these comments & superstitions about wearing green. We'd never have worn green as dc but thats because we werent Catholic and green was thought to be a Catholic colour !
bienchen - we had proper candles in the lanterns the first year we were here but then realised you could just buy those battery operated ones which seemed much safer (and very cheap). We've got quite a few lanterns in the cellar after 3 years of kiga.
aw cake - nice news about the wedding. I lost the weight really quickly after my first baby without really trying. Was back in my normal trousers after 2 weeks. Shame I didnt stay that thin all these years later .
linzer - hope you enjoyed your last few mins of peace. I was supposed to have gynae surgery even before we moved here but they said that after the op I wouldnt be allowed to lift the dc and they were still little at the time so put it off. But there wont be much longer before I cant lift ds2 so I wont be able to put it off much longer. Dreading it though.
world - glad it all went ok.
The parents evening went fine. Spent most of the eve in ds2's class as I wanted to get to know the teacher a bit better. She's so much nicer than the battleaxe that ds1 has - thankfully for ds2. And managed to get out of being Klassensprecher for either class. Spoke to the teacher at the end just to say about ds2 not being friends with the other boys from kiga just to ensure she didnt push them to sit together. But there seems quite a few other boys so I'm sure ds2 will have some friends soon.
Very quiet on here today... I've been staying off MN as, after a very quiet period, I now seem to be inundated with work and will probably have to work for quite a bit of the weekend.
Ploom Glad you survived the parents' evening, although I'm disappointed that you didn't volunteer to be Klassensprecher after all. Wow, very impressed with you being back to your pre-baby weight within 2 weeks; I think it took me about 6 months after I'd had DD1!
world Good to hear it went OK yesterday and wasn't too time-consuming.
English Was that in the UK that a lot of people wouldn't have green carpets? I've just been googling and green is indeed sometimes considered an unlucky colour, but I'd never heard of it before.
I know quite a few people who'll travel into Vienna to go to a particular gynae (usually the one they went to see when they were living there), but I don't know how they find the time.
Bienchen Things haven't moved on in Austria; we still have proper candles in our lanterns here. I didn't realise that anything else was even an option!
Nutella Yes, the fact that you always see the same doctor is a good thing. Having said that, the fact that there's rarely more than one doctor in a practice here means that opening hours aren't great (most doctors seem to open for four mornings and one afternoon) and you have to find another practice to go to if they're on holiday. I wanted to get DS's allergy medication from the paediatrician before we went back to the UK, only to discover a notice on the door saying he was on holiday and the Vertretung was in the next town, which would have been a bit of a hassle if I'd really wanted to see a paed (I ended up going to the GP instead).
Linzer have pm'd you.
I put this in the old thread: a bit last minute I know, but
I am going on a family duty visit to the farterland and have a free day in Frankfurt on Friday, anyone got any ideas of what to do? Not been before, I'm interested in art and gardens.
I'm in Frankfurt, but only been here a few months, worldcitizen probably has better suggestions.
There are lovely botanical gardens here: www.palmengarten.de/#/de_DE/index/index.
Palmengarten sounds good, just need to work out how to get there without missing my flight back. Is there anywhere to dump a suitcase in FF - do they still have left luggage anywhere - I know we don't have that any more.
achillea My time in Frankfurt was a while ago, so I think the most helpful tip I can give is this link. Everyone speaks English and you can either call or pay them a quick visit. They are right there in the main station. Not sure where you're staying, but the airport stop is 2 stops away from the Central station, Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof, as far as I remember lots of train lines pass and you could catch a tube every 4-7 minutes and even though they're only 2 stops, they are quite long-stretched and should take about 12-14 minutes I believe. Don't nail me on this one, it was a while ago when I lived there
Hope this link is helpful.
Tourist Information Frankfurt Central Station
You could either catch a tube, the U-Bahn, I believe the U6 and U7 would take you there and also Bus 36 (its end stop name is Palmengarten). It will take about 30 minutes from the city...but again am not so sure anymore.
There are loads of cultural options, and it would depend how man hours you have available to you, which is why the tourist info would be the best option as you could decided then and there what you're in the mood for and they would be able to tailor some suggestions to your interests and time schedule.
As far as I know, it is still possible to leave your suitcase in a locker there in the main train station.
vegan so it was you who moved to Frankfurt. How have you settled so far?
I thought worldcitizen was a website! I just googled it.
I'm going to be en route from Karlsruhe but my flight isn't until the evening. I am half german so can cope with the lingo. I'm glad the airport is so near the sation, I can dump my luggage at the airport and then spend the day looking at Kunst and Garten.
This is the first time I've been away on my own for 25 years, I'm being very control-freaky about it.
Yes, you can also leave luggage at the airport. I believe there are two options at least, one should be between terminal 1 and 2.
English I've never heard that green was unlucky either I like the sound of your carpet .... I love green! It's a colour I would consider for the baby corner - nice and gender neutral! In fact in my first place I had a wallpaper that was mostly green in the bedroom and in the second a green hallway.... don't think I've been unlucky...
This weekend there is a herbst festival thing nearby but I haven't figured out if you have to pay to get in.... I don't understand why there are often these days where you can go along and buy overpriced things that you could get in most fancy shops but first you have to pay to go and look at the fancy stuff the main reason I'm interested in going is to look for more second hand baby stuff. Apart from nappies and dummies I'm not sure if baby will have anything new... Still looking for the last few bits to pop up on eBay
<Sidles in shyly> Hello everyone. I've been meaning to join this thread for a while, but it always goes so fast, so I decided to wait until a new one starts.
Currently living in Bayern, but we are moving to Hessen in the new year, which I am a bit nervous about (leaving all my friends here, having to find a flat and find Kindergartens and things <frets>). Any other Hessen people on here?
Hi CheddarandMarmite welcome and I hope the move goes well (now I really could do with some cheddar and some marmite)!Not sure if we have any Hesseners on here. I'm in Hanover.
Nutella is it the Fest on the Schutzenplatz? Went there one year but it's like a mini Oktoberfest. Free to get in (or it was when we went). I know what you mean about having to pay to get into these things. It's a shame as it puts us off going as a family of four it gets too expensive. Dd would have loved the recent show at Herrenhausergarten with dogs but it also cost jsut to go inside.
achillea hope you have a nice trip to Frankfurt!
ploom glad your ds2 got a nice teacher. My 2 are both happy with their teachers so are enjoying school at the moment. Just sat in the dyslexia therapist's waiting room and listened to another mother sobbing that her dd isn't getting any better and how bad her last piece of homework was, full of spelling mistakes and how her dd won't read, how the school won't offer any help either. Felt so sorry for the girl (well abit for the mum too but found it abot ott sobbing to the young therapist).
bienchen enjoy the laternenumzug! We loved our lanterns and sometimes used to sit with them on in the dark on winter evenings! Better in the warm, snuggled on the sofa than out in the freezing cold!
world thank goodness being a witness wasn't too bad. Sounds scary.
Well, 4 hours left until we pick dh up. Haven't heard from him although he could have forgotten his mobile pin number! He has just sent off for a job in Canada, great university in Montreal, wouldn't say no to a few years there although it's a worry for the dc as they still have 3 and 4 years to Abi. Bad time to change countries and school systems.
admylin I would totally encourage you to go to Montreal. Seriously, a wonderful quality of life and awesome atmosphere. 3-4 years before Abi and changing schools and school systems to go to Canada is no issue at all, really not at all!!!!!!
Cheddar sorry, even though I lived for over 6 years in Frankfurt, Wiesbaden and Bad Nauheim I doubt I would be of much help, all too long ago.
admylin Montreal sounds amazing! My parents are on the other side of Canada and I'm a bit in love with the country. I loved it when we were over there when I was pregnant.
CheddarandMarmite Hello! I'm in Hessen The thread really whizzes along sometimes.
Nutella Enjoy the Herbstfest if you go - hope it's not too expensive and that you manage to find a few baby bits.
achillea Enjoy your Frankfurt trip! We went to the Palmengarten a few years ago and really enjoyed it.
Linzer Hope the work isn't too stressful and you still have time for
wine consumption & MNing other things over the weekend.
Ploom Glad the parents evenings went well.
English I've never heard of the green thing either!
<waves to everyone else>
We're off to look at a fab-sounding house this week. I'm all excited again even though we still haven't managed to get hold of our landlady to see if we could move out if we found a Nachmieter. (When we moved in the agency said that would be no problem, but the landlady dumped the agency at really short notice recently so we don't know whether that still stands.)
antique are you also in Frankfurt or somewhere else?
Thanks worldcitizen, I shall leave my luggage at the train station and get the 36 bus. This is so unlike me. In my youth I would have just turned up and found my way wherever I wanted to get to. Now I feel I have to have it all arranged perfectly.
world, we have been here nearly six months now and settling really well, danke. It's fine. But I really am one of those people who is content wherever I lay my hat, as long as I have my husband and offspring with me, and it's not a complete hellhole!
Cheddar, welcome. I am in Frankfurt. My DS is nearly two. He's not in Kiga so I can't really help there, but holler if you think I can be of any help. How old is/are your DC?
antique, good luck with the viewing.
What is Abi? That's my name!
achillea, enjoy your trip. If you go to the gardens, there is a fancy restaurant next door that does fancy cakes (no good for vegans though).
Abitur - the exam they take at 16 instead of GCSE.
Ooh, Antique you're in Hessen? We are looking to move to Hanau, to the east of Frankfurt, don't know if you are anywhere near there.
I'm worried that, moving when we are, all the Kindergartens will be full up, and DD will have to hang around at home for months until the new school year starts, and then she'll forget all her german. She is just starting to speak a bit more now at her current Kiga too, after a year of silence.
vegan that's great to hear, wonderful trait to have
Abi is short for Abitur (like A levels)
Ooh fancy cakes! Hang on - I thought all German cakes were pretty fancy.
Hello WWVD my DC1 is nearly 5 and my DC2 is 1. Nice to see there are some people who won't be too far away
Thanks, world. I imagine you are the same, being a world citizen and all!
I don't really know, achillea, I don't eat cakes out! But this place looked pretty swanky.
It's not the exam you take at 16.
vegan unfortunately I am not really that way
vegan I imagine you could find vegan cake in Bornheim, right?!
world I'm in Wiesbaden. I think you mentioned upthread that you lived here too for a while - how long were you here for?
Cheddar I'm on the other side of Frankfurt. My DS has just turned 1 too. Hope it works out with the Kindergarten. I keep hearing that you have to register your DC pretty much as soon as you give birth but a few friends of mine have found (albeit very last minute) places at their first choice Kigas for their DC. That's Wiesbaden though, I'm afraid I have no idea what the situation is in Hanau.
Vegans It had never occurred to me that cakes might not be vegan. Doh! (But then I totally forgot and recommended the zoo to you, so am obviously a bit dull when it comes to these things )
world, re cake, maybe. I haven't looked. I have no need of external cake: DS LOVES baking cakes, he'd bake every day if he could. DH and I can't eat enough to keep up!
Antique, , bless! Most cakes use milk, eggs, butter. Very easy to make them without though.
We could have a welcome party for when Cheddar arrives - just not at the zoo!
How on earth did that never cross my mind?!
<feeling ever so slightly dim now>
I was down there for about 7 years and was most of that time in Frankfurt, where I was extremely happy, a few months in Wiesbaden and 2 years in Bad Nauheim, but was a lot in Wiesbaden due to friends and uni mates living there at the time, one of my best and dearest friends still lives in Wiesbaden, where she's from, and I still visit once in a while, but next visit is her turn and I'm planning to be back down next spring.
I liked the beautiful and green neighbourhood Bornheim in Frankfurt as it was quite alternative and eco-minded with loads of Vegetarian and health food restaurants at a time where Frankfurt was really know to be a place for all the finance and banking types.
Wiesbaden is really beautiful and the quality of life there is amazing!!!!!! And adding all the benefits of having Frankfurt close by, it was wonderful.
admylin it's a thing in Südstadt somewhere... I think it is at a sports club near the edge of the Eilenriede... There was something on the poster about 5 for a tisch but I assumed that only applies if you want to set up a stall... DP thought it was a donation thingy... We shall see!
Bienchen thank you for your retort I will be writing it out on many post-it's and then either saying it to or sticking it on people! Now can you help me, what can I say when people ask (what I previously considered was a neat bump) if I am having twins? Of course if anyone else has any ideas please I need help! Preggo brain and not practising German enough is definitely having an impact
Although, sorry if I've posted this before... But I heard a message I left for DP on our answer phone and I really do sound Dutch!
Hey nutella, I believe you've mentioned that before about people sometimes assuming you're being Dutch when we talked about where others would place us when they hear us speaking, someone said their German husband sounds Australian to others...
To your bump and twin question I am afraid I don't have much helpful to suggest as no-one has ever asked me that and it wouldn't occur to me to ask this directly, as much as I don't ask a woman if she's pregnant either...
Guess it depends what you generally would like to say, so maybe if you would share which tone and message you would like to get across?!
That's mine world, and I think Ploom's as well?
I don't know how he managed to get an Aussie accent to stick after just a few months in Australia and NZ - he lived in the NE of England for 18 months and
luckily doesn't sound Geordie!!
Right, going to have a proper catch up with this thread now...
Nutella is so weird how people comment on your bump. I can have a week of everyone saying "you're huge!" and then I'll meet up with friends and they'll say "aren't you lucky to have a small bump!"
So, I just ignore I'm also not very good with having German "platitudes" ready, by which I mean all that conversational sort of "yes, well, it's growing each day" or "oh right, well I seem to have plateau'd at the moment".... instead I just stand there, nodding dumbly at whatever they say....
I've found one more stallholder now for the craft fair next weekend - I'm stupidly nervous about it; hoping that people come, hoping it's worth it for the stallholders, hoping there's enough on the stalls to keep the customers happy....argh!!
Enjoy the weekend everyone
Hello cakebump you enjoy your weekend as well . I am off in a couple hours myself, spending the weekend in Lübeck/Travemünde...and then from Monday on it's going to get quite dense at work...
Best wishes for the craft fair
Hope everyone is having a slightly more exciting weekend than me (stuck on the computer) and that you have a good trip world. I wrote half a post last night but pressed the Back button by mistake and lost it; I've forgotten most of what I wrote now, but hi to Cheddar and achillea. Is hupa still around? I think she's in Hessen somewhere.
Antique Hope the viewing goes well; it sounds very exciting. Are you in a flat at the moment?
admylin Hope your DH got back OK. Montreal sounds good; good luck with his application.
Nutella Maybe you could say no, it's triplets. Almost all our baby stuff was second hand; I think the only things you're supposed to buy new are the car seat and cot mattress. Babies grow out of clothes so quickly that it's fairly easy to find good quality second-hand stuff and we hardly had to buy anything for DS when he was a baby as we had so much passed on to us.
Cake Oh, I'm exactly the same with the platitudes; I still really struggle with German small talk, particularly if I don't really know someone.
Right, my coffee is finished so must get back to work!
I think hupa is in Hessen Linzer, and I knew antique lived in Wiesbaden but that shows my German geography skills are zero as I didn't think that was Hessen! And that'S despite having helped both dc learn all the Länder and Hauptstädte for geography in year 5! Good luck with the house antique.
cake good luck with the event, have you advertised in the local paper?
world have a nice weekend away. I was just saying that when dd is atleast 14 and ds 15 I might be able to go on these business trips with dh and leave them for 3 days to get on with it! Or maybe not...
cheddar my dd spent a whole year of silence at kindergarden too. She just suddenly started talking perfect German one day! Hope you get a place sorte dout as soon as possible.
Dh got back OK, on time and not too fed up. He did meet an old colleague who was given dh's work to use as his own and also got a big prize (money) from the boss for it. Dh didn't hesitate to tell him he can't really be proud of what he had achieved considering he didn't even understand half of the work. The man doesn't care though as he's a surgeon and only wants his title (Dozent).
I didn't realise that Wiesbaden is in Hessen either, despite having been there. I'm hopeless at geography, so I'm glad we only have nine Länder and capitals to learn here. Both DDs had to learn them all in year 2, but that was nothing compared to the challenge of learning the national anthem off by heart (I've rarely come across a more impossible tune).
It must be so frustrating for your DH to see others rewarded for his work. Fingers crossed another job will turn up soon.
I really think most comments on bumps is just people awkwardly trying to make conversation, sound interested, be polite.
admylin, that is so atrocious about your husband's work being stolen. Aargh, so unfair. I hope the people responsible get their comeuppance.
I agree Vegans. I remember when SIL's DS was little, saying something to her about how big he was and she replied, "No, not really, he's average for his age." I just meant that he'd grown and was trying to make conversation, but I can't remember whether I bothered explaining!
Nutella it's when people comment on your bump and you aren't pregnant you have to worry (check out lady at the local small supermarket I've been going to for years congratulated me on expecting DC4 a couple of months ago - I wasn't... I don't wear that dress any more ) The midwife in the UK told me DD would be at least 11lb based on the size of my bump and sent me for a late scan at about 37 weeks thinking I should be induced early - she wasn't small but she wasn't that big (9lb at 42 weeks) but there was a lot of water... How the baby is lying does affect how big your bump looks too though, and if the baby moves from lying horizontally to vertically your bump can actually go from looking very big to much smaller and neater (and vice versa of course) that happened to me with DC2 and people asked if he'd shrunk I knew he'd moved though as horizontal at 30+ weeks was uncomfortable!
admylin how unbelievably frustrating for your DH, don't know how he keeps his temper when that happens to him over and over Really hope he finds a job where he is treated with more respect soon.
Its next Sunday everyone! (the craft fair I mean!)
Yes, we've advertised in two local papers and I've put half a dozen posters up around town... fingers crossed!
We've got roadworks outside the restaurant at the moment so although its nice and sunny here, it's not very peaceful....
admylin that's crap about your DH's work! Can he complain to the bosses?
Linzer there are so many times when I say something in coversation, the other person gets totally the wrong and of the stick, and I can't be bothered to try to explain (way too complicated plus the other person just gets embarrassed) so I just pretend it was what I meant all along
English at people asking if your DS had shrunk! I'm 28 weeks now and getting to the stage where a head and random limbs are actually poking out a bit, it's most odd but never fails to fascinate me. I'm constantly saying to DH "look look!!"
linzer - my saturday hasnt been too exciting either. Dh is on call and we were all lazy this morning so all we did was collect some chestnuts. Then this afternoon he keeps trying to get me involved in gardening which I hate. Thankfully ds1 helped him instead.
cake - have got my fingers crossed that next saturday goes well. If I was nearer I'd come along. Being 28 weeks is such a fun part of pregnancy - you look pregnant but dont feel as sick as the beginning or as exhausted as at the end.
admylin - thats so rubbish about that man stealing your dh's work but good on your dh for saying something to him about it.
I also agree vegans - people just want to make small talk so say something about your bump. But they forget that they're probably the 10th person to say it that day which is why you look a bit fed up. I also agree one person says "oh isnt your bump big" then the next says "oh arent you neat for x months". Grrrr. The consultant when I was induced with ds2 said to me "oh havent you got a lovely neat bump - dont think it'll be a big baby" 6 hours later ds2 arrived at 10lbs 13oz!!!! So not even the doctors get their comments right.
welcome cheddar. I'm not far from the border to Hessen (in Bayern) but not anywhere near where you're moving to.
The funny thing about it all is that even in adult life it isn't as if we are all the same height and weight so why should bumps or children conform to some perception of "standard" size... ah well. As long as it's healthy that's the most important.
Good luck with the craft thingy Cake! Well done on getting it organised, fingers crossed you get plenty of interest in it. And you're a week ahead of me, I'm 27+3 today. Has your DH tried listening for the heartbeat? I read somewhere it should be possible. DP tried it and got a pummelling in the the face , he was quite surprised at how hard the little bean is kicking now
Welcome Cheddar! I'm also not near Hessen I'm afraid. But I hope you get settled in quickly and painlessly (as much as possible).
nutella - comments when your pregnant are just the start of it. People feel compelled to say something about your childs height nearly every time they see them. I've stopped saying it to other parents now unless the other person makes a comment about their own dc cause I know how annoying it is. If one more person says to me "oh isnt your ds1 tall!" I KNOW HE'S TALL!!!!!! Do you think i've never looked at him before!!!! and breathe
So I have a million jobs to do so feel free to shout at me if you see me on here again this morning.
I think I'm spectacularly unobservant as I don't really notice whether children are tall or short unless I see them with their whole class (it was only then that I realised that DD1 is short for her age). One of my friends said people are always commenting on her tall her DS is but I must admit I'd never noticed. I didn't notice that your DS is tall either Ploom, just that your DD was head and shoulders above DD1 (is she really only about five months older than her or have I got completely confused?). Maybe it's because being tall is seen as something positive that people are more inclined to comment about it; I never get comments about the DC being short! Can understand it must be quite annoying, though.
Hope everyone had a good weekend. I spent about half of it working, but we managed to get out yesterday and went to an "amethyst world", very similar to the fossil world we went to a couple of weeks ago. There was an area where you could dig for amethysts, but I got bored after about five minutes so left DH and the DC to it and sat in the sunshine and read my book for the rest of the hour!
Cake Oh yes, I've done that plenty of times; pretending that's what I meant all along just seems like the easiest option most of the time!
Ploom I hate gardening too; the house is enough work for me! Luckily DH enjoys it and the DC are usually quite happy to help him. The digging yesterday was just too much like gardening for me!
ploom ha ha I must really irritate lots of people, as I comment on pretty much any child DD's age or younger when they are taller than she is. It's as much marvelling at her being so short as much as anything, but it's probably still annoying to the other mums .
Anyway, Nutella, despite dd being a small baby (2900g/6lb 6oz) and me not putting on much weight in pregnancy (8kg in total), I still had a comment at about 20 weeks from a dr who said "I would have put you closer to 24 weeks".
Must go and nag dd to get dressed. Hopefully back later, since I'm slightly less busy than I was last week!
Linzer that's funny, I also noticed the difference between your and ploom's dds far more than I've noticed her ds1 being tall. I don't know whether I'm generally unobservant, or just don't know enough 7/8 yos to compare with (probably the first, though, tbh).
I may have scared off that bit of proofreading work, oops. It took me 2 1/2 hours to do the bit they sent through, so I wrote to my contact saying that I had asked a professional translator friend what I should be charging and suggested an hourly rate at the bottom end of what you indicated, which happens to be what I charge for private teaching. I also said I would do the first bit for less, since I'd given them the impression it would be much cheaper. My contact wrote back slightly snappily that they don't need a professional standard translation and so they prefer to use an unqualified native speaker because they are cheaper. She is going to speak to her boss tomorrow to see if they can afford my rate.
Do I write back and say I'm willing to go lower? I don't know if any of you read the thread in Freelancers a week or two ago about how to earn £1000 a month. It somehow turned into a very inspiring thread about not aiming too low - one brilliant tip was that when you name your fee to someone, they should squeak but then say yes. If they don't squeak, you've pitched too low. Maybe today's email was just the squeak!
cheas I hope it was a squeak!
My friend started that thread and has a facebook group too - are you a member? I can pass you the details on if not. She lives near me just over the border in Holland.
I had a freaky experience with baby movements on Saturday night Nutella - I was finding it hard to sleep so was awake much later than usual, and suddenly the baby started really wriggling. As I was lying on my side and had my arm draped over my tummy, it actually felt like a real baby in the bed with me! I must have been dozing as I shouted out and jumped in shock! It was really weird - it's almost like a ghostly presence; you're alone but not alone....
We had the first frost last night - just keeping my eyes peeled for sloes now to make sloe gin! I got hundreds last year but apparently this year isn't a good year for them.
sorry cheas in answer to your question, I would wait and see what they say. If they come back with a "no", then maybe go a bit lower?
ok I've done most of my jobs - just waiting for the washing machine to finish load 1 of 3 for today so am having a cuppa and some MN.
Yes linzer - there is only 5 months between our dd1's but think mine is on the tall side and yours on the little side so the difference seemed quite huge. My dd is also developing boobs etc quite quickly which surprised me since I was def not an early developer (I still had a vest on in 1st year of high school ) so maybe thats also why she's taller. But am glad you and cheas didnt notice ds1 since his growth is the one that worries me (hint to me to stop worrying!).
cake - were you comforted or freaked out by your spooky baby movements last night? It might happen again after the baby is born - it def happened to me - dd1 was asleep in her cot and I woke scrambling around in the covers looking for dd thinking I'd lost her in the bed. Have heard this happen to others so I know I wasnt going crazy. Was freaky at the time tho.
So my other moan for a Monday morning - ds1's narky teacher wrote in his Hausaufgabenheft on Friday that his shorts for sport were too loose and for safety reasons he must always wear very tight ones . His shorts are just normal football shorts so have spent too much time over the weekend on the internet looking for them but the only ones I found were over 20 euros. Found some old ones of dd's - they're just grey on the outside but have a pink band on the inside so he wont wear them. So have been out this morning hunting for some but obviously its the wrong time of year. Have bought some black short leggings from NKD - they're girls ones but am hoping since they're plain black he'll wear them. Grrrr this teacher would drive a parent to drink!
cheas Oh, I get so annoyed by people thinking that as long as you're a native speaker, you can translate/teach, etc. I retranslated an Indian restaurant menu by someone who was a native speaker (apparently his parents had looked at it too!) and you wouldn't believe the mistakes in it; Cashewkerne had been translated as cashew seeds, for example. (That reminds of the phrase if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys...)
Re your question, I agree with Cake that you should wait and see what the boss's response is. It really depends on how much you want to do the work, I suppose. I ended up agreeing to a low rate for one agency when I started out and really regretted it afterwards when I found that other agencies were willing to pay about 60% more (even though I managed to negotiate them up by 5 cents a line) and treated me far better and with more respect too. It's definitely a good idea to aim high as you can always negotiate downwards but, as a freelancer, it can be quite difficult to put your prices up. If they offer a much lower rate than you asked for, I would see if you could negotiate them up a bit.
Cake The FB group sounds interesting - is it for freelancers?
Hello everyone. I´m finally back from my self imposed mumsnet ban. I´m quite impressed I managed to stick to it and I´ve manged to get loads done, so I´m going to try to limit myself to 30 minutes a day from now on. I think I´ve missed a whole thread and have only skimmed this thread so far. There´s a lot of new names, and maybe a couple of name changes to get my head around.
I am in Hessen, but up near Kassel, so not close to where you´ll be moving to Cheddar.
CakeBump I remember watching Alien when quite heavily pregnant and then wondering when my bump started moving if it was really a baby inside. I knew I was being ridiculous, but couldn´t get the thought out of my head for a few days.
Ploom I've never heard of shorts being too loose to be safe! How ridiculous... I'm trying to think what accidents could be caused by loose shorts but can't come up with anything.
And no, I didn't notice your DS's height at all and I know plenty of 7-8 year olds. Heights vary so much that, like cheas, I would probably only comment if a child was vastly different (almost always taller!) than one of my DC, although will think twice before doing so in future.
Good to see you again hupa; I'm always very impressed by how you manage to stay off MN for so long! You obviously have much more willpower than me.
Have just finished work for the morning, so must get off the computer if I want to get any housework done in my final 20 child-free minutes. Am not actually sure that I want to, but needs must.
Linzer I just wish I had as much willpower when it comes to chocolate and cake.
Ploom How old is your ds1? I just wondered because dd is coming up for 10 and has always been the tallest girl in her class, but I´ve noticed recently that 2 or 3 others have caught up, if not over taken her. Are either you and your dh tall? . There´s a girl in the parallel class who is a good head taller than everyone else, but both her parents are over 6 foot, so it´s not really surprising.
Hi hupa - so good to see you on the thread again!! have thought about you quite a few times - how's the kitchen getting on?
dd turned 11 in the summer and yeah dh is 6' 3" tall and I'm 5' 9" so there was never any chance the dc were going to be tiddlers! dd and I are sharing shoes at the moment but think her feet will end up bigger than mine as well as ending up taller than me.
I've also racked my brains for loose shorts possible accidents linzer and come up with nothing. She's just a control freak.
I think people that comment on children's height and pregnant women's size are just trying to think of something to say - plus in the case of pregnancy it is the only time it is remotely acceptable to say to a woman that she looks enormous .
I'm always being informed my DC are tall, but DD1 is certainly only about average height, DD2 is maybe a bit above average.
Ploom DH was scrabbling around our bed looking for DD2 just last night, and she's 15 months now (and was asleep in her cot). Partly my fault though as I'd got up in the night for a drink, and brushed past Dh's toes on the way back - he thought it was DD2 down at the foot of our bed about to fall out.
I've been trying to read up a bit about schooling in Hessen - it looks like DD won't have to start school until she is over 7 and a half, because of when her birthday falls, although she could start at 6 and a half if she is ready. Does that sound correct, or have I misunderstood something somewhere ? It seems rather old, and I'm pretty sure if we stayed here in Bayern she'd be expected to start aged 6.
sorry I realised you asked how old ds1 was not dd - he's nearly 8 and already 145cm tall.
Ploom it is a PE teacher's prerogative to be totally ridiculous on the subject of clothing.
At my school we were only allowed to play netball in white socks, and hockey in navy socks. Attempting to play either sport in the wrong colour socks was also deemed "dangerous".
Ploom I was really freaked out, like I'd seen a ghost! And I suddenly thought "I don't want a real, live baby!!" I'm happy with it being a notional baby at the moment...
Linzer yes its for freelancers I think, I don't post on it, although I'm a member. I'll pm you the link....
cake I had those sudden spooky moments too. I remember well, when I was at home and noticed the birth was going to happen within the next hours I got scared that it was all going to be real soon too.
hupa ypu have realyl good will power, send some over my way please!
ploom how strange about the shorts and how typical that they cost a fortune. I sometimes torture myself by looking at SportsDirect.com and comparing prices. Hockey sticks was one of my most painful comparisons. This week we've just sent in 40 for ds for a table tennis bat and 20 for a top for the team games and his shoes are getting small too so that'll be next.
cheddar isn't it crazy how the school systems differ in one country? It makes a national move almost as stressful as an international move for dc. My dc had to learn a whole new style of joined up writing when we moved states, and when we moved again to a 3rd state they use danother style but they 'let the dc off' as they were already in year 4 and 5
linzer I agree being a native speaker is no help when you want to translate or teach English. I can't teach at all and I've tried a few times. I admire you all for doing the teaching in primary and Kita.
Better get lunch ready. The dc are having corn on teh cob. Thought I'd better give them plenty before they get their braces as I've heard they'll be on soft food and soups for a while. Not looking forward to the moaning.
Lol at 'hupa ypu have realyl' I never preview messages.
Cake yes please send me that link! I have also had the thinking baby is lost in the bed when she's actually in the cot moment. Made the adrenalin rush I get on stage seem pretty tame .
hupa well done for sticking to your ban. I used to be silken btw! I'm currently on day 5 of a self-imposed added sugar ban (except I ate jam and marmalade at breakfast over the weekend and the muesli I buy is presumably also full of sugar, but no chocolate, biscuits or cake is hard enough). I suspect I'd find it harder to stop MNetting atm!
Linzer and others thanks for the advice. I think writing back today to point out I was berücksichtiging the fact I don't have a qualification/as much experience as a pro would just be protesting too much, so I'll wait and see what they say. Tbf I don't think they were suggesting any old native speaker could do the job - they've previously used an English lecturer at the university - but it's not like I haven't done any of this sort of work before and I don't see that I will do it any worse than someone with a translating qualification.
Out of interest, do translating agencies require a qualification and is it hard to obtain one? Iirc someone told me once that it wasn't particularly hard to apply for a stamp from the Landesbehörde, but that would just be for verifying translations of certificates and the like. Presumably they would demand some sort of proof that one was capable of actually doing the translation they were verifying...
admylin bet you could teach at Berlitz! I find Nachhilfe and private conversation classes the hardest to teach as there is no obvious structure - I'm guessing that's what you have tried in the past?
Teaching the kids was hard at the beginning as I had to adjust my expectations and start making my own lesson plans, but I really enjoy it now. I love it when I can make the kids laugh, or when they beg to play a game from the previous lesson again, or when I bump into the parents somewhere and they tell me what their child has learnt. I don't think I would have had much of a clue where to start if I hadn't had all those years' experience at Berlitz, though.
Ploom your DS is (just) within the normal range for his age you know: http://www.who.int/growthref/cht_hfa_boys_z_5_19years.pdf (I bookmarked the WHO site with the charts ages ago as DS1 is also tall, though I wasn't worried just curious, as DH is 6 ft 4 and I wondered if DS1 would end up as tall or taller if he stayed on his centile) My DS1 turned 5 last week and is between the top 2 centiles at 1 meter 22cm, but I think your DS would be more or less on the top centile line... Their growth goes in spurts doesn't it, so I guess the time to worry is if he goes over the top of the chart and then doesn't plateaux within a few months. My DD is pretty much exactly average height, but I always think she is tiny because most of her friends are very noticeably a lot taller (a combination of her being the youngest in her school year and Bavarian tall genes I think - she has a friend only 2 months younger who is at least 10cm taller if not more) and of course because her younger brother is alost her height.
Cake I like that wild movement story - I have always had placentas at the front for some reason, and that dulled the sense of movement a little so it was never really wildly spooky with any of mine - never woke me for example.
I have spent the morning at the police station as there was something (acid like) drizzled all over the bonnet of my car this morning, which looks very deliberate and has eaten into the paint. The police took it seriously and said it looks like about 400 worth of damage and agreed it did not look as if it could be accidental or caused by any kind of animal. I have reason to believe it may be our next door neighbor, though we've never had problems before and lived next to them 5 years, I called out of the window and asked them and their friends to stop revving their motorbikes and honking their horns at about 9.30pm a month or so ago, and they left a note on my car windscreen on Sunday saying that it is my fault they can't park their cars closer to their house (they have 4 cars to our 2, and we both have 2 car driveways but parking on the drive leaves very little space for the kids to get bikes etc. past just, so I do park on the road outside our double-house - I don't think I have any less right to than they do). I can't be sure it was them of course, but the police are coming out to talk to them tonight so I almost hope it was, and the wrong people are not going to get a police visit!)
Nice to see you back Hupa
EnglishWoman that sounds horrible and also very childish. What a nasty situation to be in. People can get very irrationally wound up about parking spaces though. I hope things get sorted out and don't escalate .
Just quickly checking in
Cake that sounds very odd but I can imagine what you mean.
Our baby-ecke is coming along, the ILs came over to help didn't know what to do with them because I'm not allowed to do anything to help and that bugs me. So I kept out of the way in the office
on MN "working" preparing for lessons tomorrow.
FIL has a nasty habit of asking what you want and when do you want to do it; then totally ignores you and tells you how you should be doing it and that is should be done as fast as possible
MIL was essentially in the way <cringe emoticon> so since we did a white wash yesterday it occurred to us she could iron DP's shirts kept her busy and made her feel useful.
She also offered to let me have a rummage through her clothes for big blouses (I'm guessing this was inspired by the T-shirt I'm wearing today which is snug and keeps riding up) that might fit me I feel horrible but I'm not sure any body wouldn't want to wear the clothes of an almost 70 year old MIL.
oops sorry thats a bit long! Thank you for all the discussion about size! I feel much better better get off to yoga!
oh and English I find what happened to your car really odd. It's a very personal and overt way to interfere with someone's car. Anyway, hope that a little chat from the fuzz keeps them quiet (did I say I worked in the police in London for 8 years in a previous life? Neighbour problems/disputes were always odd)
Oh and in the end ILs were only here two hours and then dashed off... which seemed odd. But another friend has been here all day working on making the walls ready for papering (nothing fancy, that ugly stuff you get all over rented flats...) so we can then hide all the holes from what we had to remove and paint it easily but without too much expense... not sure if we've upset them
Will speak to DP about it later...
cheas IME most translation agencies prefer you to have a translation qualification, particularly if you don't have any experience - generally either a postgraduate diploma/MA in translation or some other kind of translation qualification; the Diploma in Translation offered by the Institute of Linguists is quite well recognised. A couple of friends of mine have taken the DipTrans and there's more information about it here, but I don't know a great deal about what it involves or how difficult it is.
Otherwise, agencies will sometimes ask you to provide samples of your work or to do a test piece. They'll often start out by sending you a small job to check your skills, reliability, etc., which can then lead to more work if you're lucky.
In Germany and Austria, it's possible to be a certified/sworn translator (which I think is what you're talking about wrt to the stamp), but I've never really looked into it as my lack of certification hasn't been an issue (in the UK, it's the translation itself rather than the translator that is certified). It doesn't guarantee work and the German and Austrian agencies I've worked for have never asked if I'm certified, although I suppose they might look on your application more favourably if you are.
hupa I'm quite good at rationing myself when it comes to chocolate, as I rarely eat anything other than Cadbury's so have to make it last until my next trip back to the UK, but wine is my downfall.
Cake Thanks for adding me to the FB group.
English What an awful thing to happen. I hope the culprits get caught quickly.
Linzer That link is really interesting. I've been thinking about another translation certificate while I'm at home and can't really think about starting to work just yet.
Nutella Hope everything is ok with the ILs!
English Sorry to hear about your car. Have you heard anything back from the police? I was reading another thread on here a while ago about parking space issues and was really surprised how weird some people get about perceived parking space rights. I hope they get them quickly.
Hi hupa! I'm very impressed with your self-imposed MN ban. I have no willpower when it comes to these things.
cheas Did you work at Berlitz here or in the UK? What are they like to work for? FIL is always going on at me about teaching. (I was a teaching assistant for my year abroad - 9 years ago - and he seems to think that's what I should be doing, no matter how often I tell him I really do not want to be a secondary school teacher and am NOT qualified!) I worked in IT development for one of the big oil companies for years and he completely dismisses that as if it was a hobby. Strange man
When do your two get their braces, admylin? I saw someone with lovely, perfectly straight, even, symmetrical, white teeth the other day and really wished I had had braces when I was younger.
Cheddar I've done the panicked scrabbling round the bed a few times too and my DS is 1!
Ploom How ridiculous! Did he wear the black shorts in the end?
The funeral service on Saturday was lovely - if that doesn't sound too strange.
I was amazed at how composed her daughter and husband were, I'm not sure I would be as strong as they were in that situation. The husband even sang a song, really calmly, while the rest of us were blubbing away.
We're off to look at a house tomorrow! I was speaking to a friend yesterday who thought that we could legally get out of our contract early (for the current flat) as long as we had a Nachmieter or two lined up. I need to look into this but that really would be perfect. The flat is via one of DH's colleagues so no agency fees etc. I'm really excited!
Hello to anyone I've missed!
Thanks for the info and that link, Linzer. I haven't looked at the sample papers yet, but the idea of taking it is somewhat tempting. I'd either have to majorly cram to take it in January or wait until Jan 2014 though <ponders>.
I guess I have to decide whether I actually want to become a translator though! I reckon I could specialise in medical translation - presumably there's a market for it (although the English abstracts in DH's journals have clearly been nowhere near a native speaker) - or maybe Schott (the music publisher) might employ translators (my trade journal "Das Orchester" has a page of English garble each month, so maybe not).
Or I could try concentrate on getting more playing work by learning the baroque version of my instrument, or by buying a fairly rare relation of my instrument (£££ though). Or somehow get really really good at jazz playing (not sure there's really money in that in this area, so would have to get amazingly good and make the right contacts - pie in the sky).
Sorry, I'm not really looking for answers from any of you, although your thoughts would be very welcome . I've just spent the last couple of years not really looking for work, taking on things when they've been offered, but expecting to have to give them up again soon enough when I got pg again. Now DD is 3, I've had to accept that she's not going to have a sibling very close in age, I'm not going to have two kids at kiga at the same time and, actually, it's freed me somewhat from the desperation of ttc-ing unsuccessfully.
(For those of you who have joined this thread recently, I had a shot of depo provera, the contraceptive injection, 2 1/2 years ago and am still waiting for my cycle to normalize .)
Me, me, me post . Sorry!
Antique do you already have a qualification in translation, or do you mean you've been looking into getting one? I'd be very interested to hear your musings on the matter .
Berlitz are ok to work for. I worked for them as a freelancer, some teachers get contracts with them, but they prefer not to have to guarantee your salary . The teaching is easy: they send you on a week's training course to learn how to use their teaching manual and then you are let loose on the students. You are expected to teach using the target language only, so you get very good at explaining stuff in a roundabout way, but the teaching manual tells you exactly how to approach each point, so the only real thinking involved is dreaming up additional questions for larger groups. Once you've taught each level a couple of times you can virtually stop thinking, especially if you've scribbled all your ideas into your manual.
It suited me because they were very flexible. I could work 40 hours a week in the Semesterferien and two evenings a week in term time if I wanted. Lessons at Berlitz are made up of 40 minute units, separated by a 5 min break. A typical class would be 3-4 units long, so better in a way than VHS for making it worth leaving the house and travelling.
The pay is fairly rubbish, although comparable to the VHS at least where I was. They pay both expenses and for your travelling time when you go out to companies though (depending on what they've negotiated with the client). When I was pg with DD I taught at a company two days a week - 8 units of teaching (two small classes, then 1-1 with a manager). I got two travel units paid (needed around 2 1/2 hours to drive there and back though) plus 30 cents per km. The manager regularly cancelled his lesson at the last minute, which meant I could go home early but still got paid. I would say that was fairly typical.
cheas Yes, there's definitely a market for medical translation; one of my friends is a medical translator and, from what she's said, medical translators are generally able to command slightly higher rates. Being able to offer a specialism (which a lot of language graduates can't) is always an excellent idea. If you do decide to go into medical translation, I'd be happy to put you in touch with her. I don't know much about music translation I'm afraid, but I can imagine the market for it would be much smaller.
I'd also recommend joining the ITI (Insitute of Translation & Interpreting) to anyone interested in working in the field (they also have a medical network IIRC). You do need several years' experience (and have to take an exam/have work assessed) to become a fully qualified member, but you can join as an associate initially.
My cycle also took ages to get back to normal after the 3-Monats-Spritze, definitely far longer than the 10 months they say (although bfing may have affected it as well). I know it must sound trite, but there are advantages and disadvantages to every age gap - probably not much comfort when you feel like you're not being given any choice about the age gap, I know. Glad to hear you're feeling better about things anyway, and fingers crossed that something will happen for you soon.
Antique Glad to hear that the funeral went well, or as well as those kinds of things can go. I felt the same at my friend's DH's funeral last year and was just so amazed by how composed she and her daughter were and how much inner strength she must have had.
Good luck for the viewing tomorrow and keep us posted!
antique glad the funeral was OK.
My 2 get their braces in a months time so counting down now. They aren't going to like it at first.
I've been thinking about doing a translation certificate but it always ends up working out too expensive from where ever I've bene living at the time and as the next move is going to happen (but who knows when!) I always put it off. Good luck if you can do it now.
cheas medical or specialised translation is very expensive so could be a good earner for you. Once dh wanted to get some English translated into German for an internal application and it was too expensive so he had to beg colleagues to help, cost him a couple of bottles of Whiskey and many hours of his time!
nutella how nice of your PIL to want to help and great that you got the ironing done for you! Hope the baby corner is to your liking when it's finished. Have you got everything?
english hope you get the car and neighbour problem sorted (if it was them), never nice to have trouble with the neighbours is it? Can you figure out what was used on your car?
Dd stayed home today, sore throat but she's not too bad now, sitting reading her magazines on the sofa under a blanket. It's a Feiertag tomorrow, what is everyone doing? We can't decide, it'll either be a sofa/TV day or we'd go the cinema if there was something on we all wanted to watch, any tips?
Hmm, having looked at the sample papers I reckon I could translate them into English (if they were in German) without too much difficulty. I cannot, however, think of the German translation of "nooks and crannies"?
Linzer no, not trite, something I keep reassuring myself of.
Plus I can have dcs 2 and 3 close together, can't I? I'm not religious, but I often think that it will happen when the time is right, whatever that might mean in reality. I'm feeling a lot more positive about it atm than I was last year and trying to live healthily and look towards the future may well help as much as anything else atm.
cheas Apart from guessing that Ecken would be in there somewhere, I'd have no idea what nooks and crannies is in German either. Luckily, I haven't been asked to translate anything into German since I left university and no reputable agency would ask you to translate into a language that isn't your mother tongue unless you have a particularly unusual language combination.
My mum always says that things usually work out for the best, even if it doesn't look like it at the time, and that's often helped me to get through difficult situations. (Maybe you'll end up having twins and will be very glad of the larger gap. ) A friend of mine had a 7 year gap between DCs 1 and 2 and said it was great as her DS was already so independent and also very good at entertaining the baby. Whatever age gap you end up, there are bound to be lots of plus points and I don't think it's the case that the children are more likely to be close if there's a relatively small gap, as I've sometimes heard (mainly from DH to explain why he's not close to his sister, although I think their personalities are so different that a narrower age gap wouldn't make much difference). DD1 and DS are 4.5 years apart and get on very well --when they're not trying to kill each other--; she often helps him with his homework and is quite protective of him, but they play together a lot too.
admylin I was looking for a film to go and see on Sunday, but couldn't find anything that we'd all want to go and watch (mainly because I'm not a fan of cartoons!). My neighbour told me the other day about a French film (with an Austrian director) she'd seen, which she said was excellent and very moving - about an elderly couple and one of them becomes ill IIRC. Am not sure how "family friendly" it is, although obviously your DC are older; I'll try to remember what it's called (may have to resort to google!).
The film's called Amour, or Liebe in German.
"in jedem Winkel" according to dictionary. I know I wouldn't have to translate into German of course, I was just wondering whether I would have come up with "nooks and crannies" if confronted with the German.
I have to admit that my schadenfreude level goes through the roof whenever I see someone who has managed a small age gap but then ends up with twins .
Is Cloud Atlas out - saw a poster for it in the cinema car park at the weekend, but didn't have chance to read it? I loved the book (and everything else David Mitchell has written)
so the film will probably be disappointing.
I'd say depending on the context you would like to use the phrase 'nook and cranny', either you might say ...'jeder Winkel und alle Ecken'....or you might want to express you checked and tested everything to a 'T' it would me more along the lines of 'auf Herz und Nieren'...or if you like to express how much you love the other person so much and would like to kiss 'every nook and cranny'...it would depend, but then more along of every 'Falte, Spalte, Beuge, Kuhle'...for example, very much depending on who says what in which context.
admylin sorry to hear about your husband...this is like a "disease" in those areas of work. It is crushing I know. Hope you could manage to build him up.
I looked on Linguee for nooks and crannies, which suggested things like alle Winkel, bis in die kleinsten Winkel and in allen dunklen Ecken (which I almost suggested before) as well as alle Winkel und Ecken. This is why I never write in German; I still wouldn't know what to use, even after checking.
cheas I've only ever read one book by David Mitchell, Number9Dream, but just couldn't get into it at all. I have Black Swan Green on my to-read shelf, but keep finding other books that I'd rather read. I hadn't heard that Cloud Atlas has been filmed and was about to write that I'll watch almost any British film, but it seems to be more American (or at least has a mainly American cast). Not that that should put me off I suppose, particularly as I haven't even read the book
but it does.
cheas I´m glad you pointed out who you used to be. I hadn´t guessed, although I think your mention of music today would have helped me on my way.
I´m glad you´re feeling a bit more relaxed about ttc. I know a couple of people who had almost given up and had moved on to new stages in their career/lives and then ended up unexpectedly pregnant. I know it doesn´t work for everyone, but it would be nice if starting a translation course could tempt fate
I must admit I´ve never considered translation work. I really just don´t thimk I would be any good at it. I still do a bit of supply teaching at the Grundschule, but they seem to have an excess of teachers at the moment, so I don´t need to go in very often.
EnglishWoman Have there been any developments today? Í think I´d much rather it was some random act of nastiness from someone unknown. It would be really disconcerting to know your neighbours were capable of such a thing.
ploom Thanks for asking about the new kitchen. It´s finally in and is really great and I think it was worth the endless hours of arguments with dh. I´ve bought 3 new cook books which is a bit ridiculous, because I don´t actually enjoy cooking. However, i can spend hours pouring over cookbooks and imagining what I´d enjoy having cooked for me.
I think I better stop now or this is going to be a massive post.
I've got a bit of a fetish for all things Japanese, so I adored Number9dream. I can see why less Japan-obsessed people might find it rather strange though. Black Swan Green is utterly different, so unless you're actually put off by DM's style of writing somehow, rather than the characters/subject matter/random jumping between narratives, you should give it a go.
admylin didn't get round to posting this last week, but wanted to offer to knit you a pair of socks if you would actually wear them! I bought some wool recently and have started a pair for myself (in black/grey to wear in cold churches when I have concerts there). I also bought some more colourful wool intending to knit a pair for my mum or sister for Xmas, but I'm not sure they'll really appreciate them, so I would be happy to knit them for you if you'd like?
hupa I thought I'd save you the bother of having to trawl through old threads looking for my namechange . I'm sort of hoping that will happen wrt getting pg. I certainly don't think obsessing about it helps (not that it's possible to choose actively not to obsess about these things, of course).
world thanks for the suggestions. The context was work getting into every nook and cranny of life once you start working from home. It just bothered me that I couldn't think of an equivalent in German!
cheas I found reading Number9dream quite disorientating as I kept thinking I was still reading Kafka on the Shore by Haruki Murakami, which I'd finished not long before. I shall definitely give Black Swan Green a go at some point, anyway!
hupa Quite a few people I know have said they just wouldn't be able to translate, which is how I used to feel about teaching. And having tried it, I've discovered that I can do it but don't really feel like I'm cut out for it. Far too many people here seem to think that as a native English speaker, you a) can teach and b) will automatically want to.
I've got out of the gymnastics run (and parking nightmare) this week as it's my friend's turn to take the two girls. In return, I have her DS here and she gets a couple of free hours. It's not as short straw-like as it sounds, however, as his arrival (and DD2's departure ) has finally stopped the constant squabbling and they've been playing really well together, so I've even been able to get some work done.
Yay bank holiday tomorrow.... Boooo no DIY! It feels like a wasted opportunity if only we had long bank holiday weekends
I spoke to DP about the ILs seeming to rush off, he said it was only because there wasn't anything for them to do - so all is well.
I'm interested by the translating talk, it's an idea I've mused over but I only have two years of learning German asunder my belt and I know it's a way off yet, but thank you for all the links Linzer I will be saving them all and taking notes
admylin there is so much stuff I don't have it's frightening! Although I suspect tomorrow will be spent searching for a cot and a dining table (since creating the baby-ecke involved throwing out the ess-ecke and we haven't had the chance to look for a replacement) yay eBay!
I need to buy all the grooming type stuff and nappies etc - about the only thing we are planning to buy new but I think I'm getting there need a post-it that says "the shops will still be open once the baby is born".... How do I know when I have the essentials?
Hope everyone had a nice day off!
Nutella, you really don't need much for a baby, and if you do need something, are you close enough to decent shops to be able to send your OH out? Although I'd probably panic a bit without the Sunday opening.
We are taking a few days out next week for a little holiday, somewhere in Germany. I am thinking of a small holiday let in the Black Forest, if we can find something nice. Unless anyone has any ideas? DS will be two on Tuesday, so we aren't after nightlife and too much adventure just yet! Any tips on where to find info on where and how to book, etc?
vegans - a few days in the Black Forest sounds like a great idea. If you put "ferienwohnung" into google there are lots of websites that can help you.
nutella - did you forget that all the shops were shut yesterday? I always find it so different from a BH in the UK where shopping is the normal activity! I agree you really dont need much in those first few days after a baby is born (if you plan to BF). As long as you've got some nappies & babygros for baby and sanitary towels and PJ's for you then you could survive quite a few days at home.
hupa - glad the kitchen is in - I'm still in love with mine a year later. I also do that with cookbooks - am even planning on asking for more books for Christmas and bet I only ever try a few recipes then go back to our staple dinners. Have tried a few recipes from a Lorraine Pascale programme that I saw on the BBC - they were relatively simple (which is always important for me!).
cheas - the scottish saying I always think is "whats for you, will not go by you". Did you go back to the Frauenarzt? I really think she should be offering you some more investigations about your hormone levels etc. I feel like I keep going on about the Agnes Castus tablets but I discussed them with my Frauenarzt the other week and he said it is probably the lowest risk tablet you can take so maybe it might help - I've been really pleased with them.
admylin - hope your dd is feeling better today. Did you have a sofa day yesterday?
antique - glad the funeral went as well as can be expected. How was the house that you viewed?
We had a random but nice day yesterday. The weather was sunny so we thought we'd go on a day out to Coburg (70km away). Dh thought we'd take the scenic route but after about 30 mins the road was closed so we had to follow the diversion that sent us miles out the way, dd was complaining of travel sickness so we just changed direction and went to the nearest big city to us which isnt overly pretty but it was lunchtime by then and we knew of a good Italian to go to. We had some really good food then drove home. Felt like we'd driven a very long way for some lunch. But at least dh was off - it was his one day off in the middle of working 18 days so at least he had the chance to have some beers with lunch (and then a nap afterwards at home!).
Need to crack on with getting some shopping now - its ds1's birthday soon and he's left me a big choice of lego so need to go and decide whic one looks best value for money.
I've finally finished planning today's English lesson (for DD2's class at school), which I must have been doing for the last 1.5 hours (and I was only really finishing off the planning and printing out some handouts); I'm sure I've spent a good 2 or 3 hours on one 50 minute lesson! I do seem to have rather a lot of material though, so hopefully it will be enough for the next lesson as well.
Hope everyone enjoyed the bank holiday. I did hear something about an LKW-Fahrverbot because of the bank holiday on the traffic news when I was on the motorway yesterday, but I'm not quite sure what it was all about - there were certainly plenty of lorries on the motorway, anyway. Unfortunately, bank holidays don't seem to apply to freelancers (not that we had a holiday here anyway) and I had to do some work for a German company that arrived at about 7pm yesterday, needed asap. So it ended up being quite a late (for me) night.
Ploom Sounds like a lovely day out. Your DH definitely deserved a beer or two if he's working 18 days more or less non-stop!
Vegans A holiday in the Black Forest sounds good.
Nutella Like everyone else says, you really don't need a huge amount of stuff for a small baby. If you're planning to bf (or maybe even if you're not?), you might find Stilleinlagen (nursing pads) useful as well as a nursing bra. We were advised not to use baby wipes initially (too harsh for the skin) or to add anything to their bathwater, but the advice may have changed since then - or may never have been the case in Germany anyway.
Nutella I agree with vegans about not needing very much at the start. A car seat and a few clothes are the only real essentials. We were given masses and masses of nappy creams and shanpoos, etc. as free gifts and presents when dd was born - I still haven't had to buy any 3 years later! We didn't buy any disposable nappies until after she was born either (switched to cloth after the first few weeks, but was too shell-shocked at first to use them straightaway).
ploom I'm thinking about going back to the dr this month for ultrasound to confirm that I'm ovulating when I think I am. I will definitely ask her about AC, can't decide about the referral to an endocrinologist though - would hate for it to send me back into obsessive mode!
cheas I did a translation certificate through AKAD when I was pregnant. It wasn't expensive, only takes 3 months part time and is the company recommended by the IHK so might be worth looking into. I haven't started looking for work yet so can't tell you how it has gone down on my CV, but it might be worth looking into. (I studied languages, which involved a lot of translation & translation theory, so only really wanted something with 'translation' in the title to put on my CV, as opposed to actually learning to translate, IYSWIM.)
I don't think AKAD offered a certificate in medical translation, but I can't remember. I'll look up the details of the course I did and PM you.
I hope the ultrasound confirms things for you & that the Dr can suggest a few things to help.
Hope everyone enjoyed the BH!
The house was lovely, Ploom, we liked it so much, that we spent yesterday evening trying to get hold of our current landlady, who said that as long as we find a Nachmieter we can move out, yay! We're hoping to move in December, depending on how quickly we find someone - which shouldn't be too much of an issue as there are always flyers on trees round here with people looking for flats in this area. It's a bit yummy mummy round here so I'll be glad to get away from it, but the landlady is pleased as it means she can put the rent up!
The couple who own the new house are even dropping the rent for us as they want someone in there who they know, so we're getting a bit of a bargain. (We don't actually know them, they are DH's colleague's PILs, but the last people they had trashed the place and disappeared without paying rent, so I think they want at least a connection to the new tenants. Good news for us as it means the rent is cheaper and they are renovating the whole house before we move in, new double glazing and everything!)
Nutella One thing we needed, which meant an emergency dash to the shops for DH in the first few days was another sleeping bag and a few extra sleepsuits - we thought we'd be ok with 2 sleeping bags, but DS' nappies used to leak all the bloomin' time when he was tiny. We had bought sleeping bags on offer in the supermarket, but when we desperately needed another one, they weren't on offer anymore and we ended up with a lovely but ridiculously expensive one.
I'm not saying go out and bulk buy sleeping bags, of course, just sharing a problem that we were unprepared for!
antique that sounds awesome!!!!!!! Congrats to finding a great new place
Antique That´s great news about the house. Hopefully it won´t take long to find a Nachmieter and you´ll be in before Christmas.
Nutella I agree with everyone else who says you really don´t need very much. Like Linzer, we were advised not to use wipes, but cotton wool and water to begin with. If you´re planning to breastfeed it would be worth getting some nipple cream. I think I used Lansinoh which was really good and luckily the kind midwife in the hospital gave me some in a syringe to take home until I had time to buy some.
Ploom The Lorraine Pascale book was one of the ones I bought. We made twisted bread at the weekend which tasted ok, but I think we´ll be finding poppy seeds in the kitchen for the next few weeks.
vegans The Black Forest sounds like a great idea. Mind you I´ve been here over 10 years and still haven´t visited, so can´t make any recommendations.
I´ve just been into school with 2 of our guinea pigs because ds´s class are doing a project about pets. Of course one of them promptly weed all over ds´s best friend. He was naturally not impressed, especially as the rest of the class found it hilarious.
antique that sounds great about the house, good luck with finding a Nachmieter. Will you have a garden?
hupa hope the pet day went well! Never had to that thank goodness! What did everyone bring? I know dd's friend brought her rabbit oince (to Gymnasium) but dd didn't want to take her gerbils as it would have scared them she said.
cheaspicks how sweet of you to offer to knit socks for me! I'd be happy with all the left over bits of wool and multi coloured but only if you have time!
nutella as everyone says you won't need much and you can send your dh out if you need anything. Prepare yourself with plenty of cosy blankets and warm socks for you and baby (December is cold!) and accept every offer of help with cooking and housework. Ds had bad colic so we stopped off at the Marktkauf to get some bottles and baby fencheltee on the way home from the hospital as that hadn't been on my plan at all!!
vegans if you are heading the black forest way I would suggest a quick trip over to Strasburg. Nice change after a few months in Germany and you'd get the nice drive through the black forest too. The Hohenzollern castle is worth a visit (I used to live near here) and if you like castles this one is great. Went there often when we had guests visiting.
Just waiting to be able to get my car out to go shopping. A builder has blocked me in and gone off to the shops to get his lunch on foot!! Good job I'm not in a hurry eh?
hi everyone, hope you all had a good BH! It rained all day here and of course we were working so not much of a holiday for us!
antique that's great news about the house, I hope it all works out for you and you can find a Nachmieter.
hupa that is one brave teacher offering to have pets in for a visit! I'm not sure I would have had the energy or inclination... the most my class did was bring in photos
Pouring down here today... we're taking advantage of it being quiet and getting some boring tax/admin done.
Ploom nooo I knew the shops would be shut, but I still find a little frustrating (probably in the main because I'm simply not organised ); DP had also decided that being a BH it wouldn't be a good idea to do anything noisy (our neighbours are the most miserable bunch) so even if we had some supplies for the next stage he probably wouldn't have let me crack on.
But we did sort out the office (finally) and managed to free up a set of shelves which might come in handy
Then we went out to another kinderkleidung sale... and got a bit wet in the rain. But found a couple of nice things. I need to go through it at some point and count up what I do have and what I need. Waiting to do the nappy/nipple cream/cotton wool type shopping until a bit nearer the time (also then we might have somewhere to put everything).
Officially 28 weeks today off to the Dr's later and need to get a fit to fly certificate for my trip to England next week DP will staying here (it was too expensive for him to come too ) and enjoying some man time. I'm going to see my family though which will be lovely
Oh, and thank you for the advice everyone! There are just a few obvious things that I don't have (i.e. nappies) which I'm not panicking about but just keep wondering what else needs to go on the list.
And baby is due on the 27th so lots of BH when of course everything will be shut! <eye roll at terribly backwards inconvenient shopping limitations>
Antique Great news on the house! I suspected the viewing had gone well when I saw on FB that you're looking for Nachmieter.
hupa Yes, Lansinoh was a lifesaver. Luckily the big tube I bought when DD1 was born lasted for the other two, as I've never seen it here. I also wish I'd discovered the numbing powers of ice cubes a bit earlier!
Am feeling a bit fed up after today's English lesson, as the teacher basically said that what I was doing with the class was too difficult for them and I shouldn't go by what DD2 can do as she's one of the better ones (I would have thought the fact that DD2 is a native speaker would have made it obvious that I shouldn't go by her English abilities!). What I wish I'd said, although I didn't think of it at the time, is that I was actually going by what DD1's class had been able to do in the 3. Klasse (l'esprit de l'escalier is a phrase that was invented just for me). And actually, from what I saw, the only ones who were struggling were the two children who've just joined the class from another school (the teacher said I should bear in mind they'd never done any written English before). I think I'm just feeling a bit despondent because I must have spent a good three hours of my time on that lesson (although I've prepared enough for next time too), unpaid, and it would be nice to get a bit of positive feedback occasionally.
Linzer at the idea of you planning a lesson aimed at your dd's level! The teacher can't have been thinking when she said that, surely? It all sounds rather soul-destroying though. How much longer do you have to do it for?
admylin it may well take me quite a few weeks, but I find knitting in front of the tv relaxing, plus it stops me snacking. I hadn't thought of randomly mixing all the leftovers into a pair of socks. Sock wool is often quite colourful to start with, plus I knit baby socks with any substantial leftover amounts. It's still an idea though.
antique haven't read your pm yet, but thanks anyway. My parents are coming in a couple of weeks, guess I'll mull it over with them
and buy some books on Amazon, yay. Congratulations on the house btw!
nutella oh yes, stilleinlagen. I had a fantastic wool pair from www.babykind.co.uk. Disposable ones are okay, but the wool ones were much less visible and comfortable, plus the lanolin helps condition your skin. Babykind ship to Germany reasonably cheaply, good place for cloth nappies etc, which are VAT exempt in the UK but not here.
I spent the morning in the recording studio and now have a headache. Fortunately my private student has cancelled this afternoon, so I just have to teach one lesson at the kiga before I can curl up on the sofa with a cup of tea. Hope the kids aren't in a nosy mood!
Nutella are we the same person? I'm 28+5 and need to get a fit-to-fly letter at the doctors on Monday as I'm also flying back to the UK next week!!
Whereabouts are you going? I'm in London for my niece's birthday.
Thanks again, antique. I haven't found much detailed infrmation on that link, but it's certainly another option and cheaper than the DipTrans. I can't read the information on the DT site about prep courses (ipad problem, I assume) do I really need to do one, bearing in mind I have some experience and plenty of cultural background knowledge/near native competency?
I guess I'm asking how important translation theory is! There is a suggested reading list on the DT site - do any of you who have studied the subject have any book recommendations?
cheas I've just asked a friend of mine who did the DipTrans whether she did a preparation course (the link is to a list of institutions offering them) and, if so, whether she found it worthwhile - I'll let you know when I hear back from her. I didn't find translation theory particularly
interesting useful and enjoyed the practical translation classes that I did during my MA much more (plus they've been much more useful). I'm not sure whether any theory is necessary for the DipTrans (I had to write an essay when I took the ITI exam) but again, can check with my friend.
cheas Have PMed you. To answer your earlier question, I have just under two years to go with DD2's class and then may go through it all again when DS goes into the 1. Klasse. I can't say I'm overly keen on another four years of it, although I suppose I should have all the lessons planned by then, but it seems a bit unfair on DS to teach the DDs' classes and not his (he keeps asking me if I'm going to be his English teacher too).
I was quite tempted to tell the teacher that actually, DD2 can already speak and write English without any problems and she hardly needs me to spend two hours teaching her how to say/write her name, age and that she's fine, thank you. Well, I would have been if I'd actually thought of it at the time.
linzer you are saint for still going there honestly! Next time you should say that you've been thinking about what she said and then tell her your dd doesn't need to be taught all that and you do it for the school.
cake and nutella hope you both get your fit-to-fly letters and have a great time back in the UK. Take empty suitcases and stock up on baby clothes, so much cheaper than here!
cheas hope your headache is better, I have one too this afternoon. I keep forgetting to drink so I've forced 2 cups of tea down and will try to drink my water before it gets too late (thinking that might be the cause).
Taking ds to table tennis now. Just got a parcel that I'd ordered on amazon.de for dd's birthday. It's a Lötstation and I've just realised I have no idea what she is planning to do with it! It was on her wish list anyway so I just clicked on a few of the things and that has turned up along with some books and a dvd!
admylin What's a Lötstation - is it something to do with soldering or have I got the wrong end of the stick? (Am intrigued; I realise I could probably google it. )
Hope your and cheas' headaches are better soon. I'm amazed I don't have a permanent headache as I just don't drink anything healthy (I've heard that a high percentage of headaches can be cured by having some water). I don't know if you saw my FB status about being forced to drink wine because the Buschenschank had no coffee (no hot drinks at all, in fact); I did order a glass of Holundersaft initially, but had a few sips and that was enough for me!
Am getting slightly annoyed about the other parents (well, the majority of them) in DD1's class. We're trying to organise a Heurigenabend for them to get to know each other, sent out an e-mail a couple of weeks ago saying could they let us know by tomorrow whether they can make it or not, had five replies almost immediately saying that they could - and the other 14 haven't bothered letting us know. I sent out a reminder e-mail yesterday asking (in bold!) if they could let us know even if they can't make it as we need to book tables at the Heuriger, but still no responses as yet. I'm wondering if it's a language thing as the only parents to have replied are Austrian, although surely most of them would be up to telling us whether they're coming or not? I printed out the e-mail for the three families whose e-mail addresses we don't have and even included a slip to return at the bottom where they only needed to tick yes or no, and only one family (not surprisingly, the Austrian one) bothered returning the slip. I wouldn't mind if I thought they were going to reply at the last minute as I'm not always the most organised person myself, but I just have the feeling they're not going to bother.
Gosh, I missed tons while my dps were here! Hope everyone is doing ok and the weather is still reasonable. Now things have more or less got back to normal I will be better at keeping up! Hope you're all having good evenings!
I had the overzealous nurse today... she weighed me heavy, again! Really annoying, she pushed up the slidey scale and it was too heavy; then she moved it back about 300 -400g and in the end rounded it up to what she had put it on in the first place!!! <eye roll> so when the Dr said that I'd put on a lot this time I said I found that different nurses make a difference (checked it when I got home and was 500g lighter than at the Dr's so I don't mind telling tales )
Sorry, I was there for the 28 week check up. They did a scan to check the measurements of the baby too and the baby is schlank but within normal parameters... the head however is slightly above average in size... thanks DP and your lovely big head <humph>
Cake I will be flying into Stansted on Wednesday night. Then going to Watford (to my little bro's) might pop into London on the Thurs (see if I feel up to it and if I can drag mother along ) then Friday hanging out with little bro (and mum, who is also flying in on Wednesday from France), Saturday we are off to Stratford on Avon to see the other brothers and I fly home Sunday Lunch time. Phew. It's sounds hectic but I don't actually have to do much... except fill my suitcase
And yes, I got my fit to fly letter cost 7 something which I thought was fairly reasonable. DP is hoping we can do the baby 3D at the next appointment too... I find the pictures a bit creepy but it's up to DP. But I was at the Dr's for two hours! And now they want me to sit for 30 minutes every time I go to listen to the heartbeat... I was fed up almost as soon as I sat down (hate sitting around with nothing to do.. they hadn't warned me last time so I didn't have a magazine or anything either!) DP was telling me it was great to be able to hear it and he was really happy... but after about 10 minutes he'd had enough too
I'm sorry about my whingeyness today, I'm really tired! Hope the headaches get better! I will read more in detail tomorrow. going to prepare for tomorrow morning's lesson and then I might go to bed early...
Linzer I can hardly imagine that it is a language thing, as your text must be simple enough for everyone to understand, as I am sure to navigate life in Austria will require some sort of language skill...
Not everyone reads email on a regular basis...know plenty of people professional academic Germans and Americans who don't.
And maybe it is a cultural thing...many parents are not interested in "getting-to-know" one another on that level...
Would that be possible? And yes, for many (especially since you are pointing out that it's mainly the non-native Austrians) not responding and letting it slip and hope not to be asked again or pretend afterwards it got forgotten or something came up etc...would be the route to go instead of responding clearly with a 'No'.
Linzer I can hardly imagine that it is a language thing, as your text must be simple enough for everyone to understand, as I am sure to navigate life in Austria will require some sort of language skill...
Not everyone reads email on a regular basis...know plenty of people professional academic Germans and Americans who don't.
And maybe it is a cultural thing...many parents are not interested in "getting-to-know" one another on that level...
Would that be possible? And yes, for many (especially since you are pointing out that it's mainly the non-native Austrians) not responding and letting it slip and hope not to be asked again or pretend afterwards it got forgotten or something came up etc...would be the route to go instead of responding clearly with a 'No'.
Thanks for the Black Forest and castles tips. I do love castles. We have been to one with DS in August, he managed fine but maybe isn't the age to enjoy it fully. Still, start as we mean to go on.
Linzer, that does seem rude, maybe some emails went to their spam folders though?
Nutella ah yes, you and Cake are having Christmas babies, that does possibly mean you need to be a bit more prepared re the shops not being open.
I needed DH to go and get me a breast pump, as I was producing loads, and hand expressing was a chore. Such a relief he could dash out and get one for me immediately. I'd also stock up on sanitary towels (really I'd advise cloth ones, so you never run out) and breast pads (cloth too - nicer on the skin). I also had to send my bro out for some arnica cream for bruising, as DS was back to back and my coccyx was in agony. But of or the baby, I really didn't need much.
I would absolutely recommend cloth nappies too - as long as your washing machine doesn't bp break down, you will never run out.
tadj, welcome back!
antique, awesome news re the home. Hope you are in for Christmas.
But of or the baby = but for the baby!
world Language is definitely an issue for some parents; at least one family, who moved here a year ago, speak very little German and DH phoned another parent to get his e-mail address and said that it was very difficult as he (the other father) just didn't seem to understand what DH wanted. But you're right; it's probably more of a cultural issue than a language one on the whole. We have absolutely no problems with parents not being able to/wanting to come, but just wish they'd tell us!
I think part of the problem is that some people will assume most of the others will reply so it doesn't make any difference if they don't, especially if they're not planning on coming anyway. Whereas, in reality, we've heard back from less than a quarter of the class. I suppose we just have to assume that none of the rest will be coming. Anyway, rant over!
Vegans I found a breast pump invaluable in the early days too. Some advise against using one until your supply is established, but I didn't have any problems with using one very early on and was also able to borrow one while I was still in hospital after DS was born. Agree that the baby him/herself doesn't need a huge amount, although I did find you could never have enough onesies!
Hi jenny; hope you had a lovely time with your parents.
Hello linzer . It is frustrating and I can imagine that many will think exactly as you said, as in well I might be the only one not responding etc. I truly believe from my experiences that this sort of "get together thing" is not something many folks from other cultures like or care about. Many also come from cultures where school is a place the children go to and parents wouldn't have much dealings with the rest other than when there are obligatory appointments.
I also remember that this didn't use to be so unusual for German culture as well. In my school days, parents showed up for Elternabend and Elternsprechtag, and it wasn't uncommon for only ONE parent to show up, nothing else was expected, I mean who else was going to watch the child or other children during that time and no-one would have made a fuss of getting a babysitter or grandparents to mind them, only so BOTH parents could attend...
I believe the most involvement was a Sommerfest,Theateraufführung, Jubiläumsfeier etc.
But again, these were also times were arranged playdates and lots of "organised parenting" also wasn't much the norm, so being getting to know other parents also would have seemed odd...and I could imagine many parents coming from other countries where what used to be normal and the norm here a while ago is still something they know from their own home countries...anyway linzer it is still annoying, I agree
linzer I guess if neither parent is hugely confident in writing German, that may well put them off replying. I'm rubbish at answering those kind of things, especially if I can't do so immediately because I have to ask DH first if he's free. I guess a reminder email would galvanise me into replying though.
I wish there was some way we could sit down for a real coffee and a chat! I have so many questions about working as a translator and don't know anyone who does it in RL to ask. It doesn't help that I am periodically prone to getting obsessed with things, mostly in an unproductive way, ie. I read lots and lots, but don't actually do anything practical .
nutella the weekly CTG seemed like overkill to me, too. I don't know how expectant mums with less flexible work schedules manage it tbh. I guess it's the German equivalent of the count-the-kicks campaign, I suppose it's reassuring, but I'm not sure whether I'll agree to it second time round (if, if!)
I was rubbish at expressing, although I bought a breast pump. DD wouldn't drink from a bottle anyway, so it was only good for making DH feel more prepared when I went out in the evening. So I would advise not buying one until you know you're going to stick with bf, or get one at the last minute and take it back once the shops open again if you want to have one just in case - all the biggish drogerie-märkte have them.
Must go and get ready - in rehearsals today from 11am until 9pm .
linzer - dh and I are guilty of never going to the kind of night out you're organising but I'm now worried that dh never replies to say we're not going (altho I dont know for sure since the email goes to him). But I'm sure from dd's class it was just an open invitation - if it had expressly asked for a reply then its rude not to let you know. You sound like a saint for carrying on those English lessons - too amused that the teacher thought the lesson was aimed at your dd's level - that would surely have left the rest of the class in the dark.
Hi jenny - hope you had a lovely time with your parents.
Wow nutella - that sounds like a busy trip to the UK. But a fun one too! Glad all was ok at the check up - it still impresses me how much more thorough they are here at antenatal check ups compared to the UK - in the UK it really was urine, BP and baby's heartbeat for 30 seconds unless there were any problems. Think I'd have liked all these check ups (paranoid pregnant woman that I was) .
admylin - is a lötstation something to do with soldering? Why does she want that for her birthday?? Hope your headache is better today (and cheas's too).
cheas - what were you recording? that sounds really interesting? dd has started playing the violin again and I've said too often this week "if you stick at it you can play in orchestra's like cheas does!" (obviously didnt call you cheas to dd). Wait till I tell her you were in a recording studio - that will really impress her .
antique about the house. Fingers crossed for you that you find a Nachmeiter.
hupa - I feel I've got some kind of obsession with Lorraine Pascale at the moment. I just find her recipes really simple but tasty. Am always put off a recipe if there's a huge list of ingredients but hers are often things I have at home anyway.
Patiently hanging about on the computer waiting to skype with a friend this morning. Its the anniversary of my friend dying so we're planning a nice reminisce about her.
In the meantime, we've heard back from one parent who can't come - hurrah! (Not that they can't come, but that they've actually let us know. ) Still don't know about three-quarters of the class, but it's progress.
world Here, it's quite normal for only one parent to go to school events. At the primary school Elternabend last month, I think there were only 1-2 sets of parents in each class (DD2's and DS's) where both parents went. I'll be going to the Elternsprechtag on my own next month and I've only ever been to the Sommerfeste on my own (which I really don't enjoy and I wish DH could go instead, but unfortunately he doesn't feel inclined to take the afternoon off work ).
I can understand parents not wanting to come along to get-togethers. But is it also a cultural thing to not even respond to invitations? (Was speaking to a friend about this the other day as she said that there's a boy in her class from a non-Austrian background and he never replies to birthday party invitations.) I should probably point out that we haven't heard anything from three Austrian families either, who definitely have no language-related excuses! (And I should also point out that I'm often also very disorganised and if I don't reply to e-mails straight away, tend to forget about them. )
Ploom If it had been an open invitation, I wouldn't have expected parents to necessarily reply. Maybe we should just have said that if you don't reply, we'll assume you're not coming (and there won't be a table for you!).
Hope the skype goes OK. (Is that even a noun?) It's a nice way of remembering your friend, although I can imagine it must be quite upsetting at the same time.
cheas yy to obsessing and doing lots of reading but nothing practical! It's a shame you're not a bit closer as you'd be very welcome to come over for coffee otherwise. Feel free to ask any questions you may have; I'll also have a look through my old ITI Bulletins to see if they have any useful articles. I'm in the very slow process of decluttering them and have already passed on a few to Antique. Even if I'm not sure about the answers to specific questions, I have quite a few friends who translate either freelance or in-house who I can ask.
Re expressing, I threw 95% of my milk away as DD1 had a weekly bottle between about 2 and 4 months (and then we didn't give her one for a few weeks and she refused completely) and the other two wouldn't take a bottle at all. I never managed to express much after the first few weeks - but didn't really need to - and only had a cheap manual Avent pump, but it did the job. (If you're expressing to actually feed the baby, I think an electric one would be much better but I wouldn't advise buying one before the baby is born and, like cheas says, you really need to know that you're going to stick with bfing).
I didn't realise that weekly CTGs are routine in Germany. I didn't have one until 38 weeks here and none at all in the USA (I was very glad that I did have one here with DS, as I ended up having to have an EMCS the same day).
Sorry, mammoth post - for anyone who's made it through to the end!
Maybe we should just have said that if you don't reply, we'll assume you're not coming (and there won't be a table for you!)
That sounds good
Linzer sounds exactly like what I experienced in Berlin. I was Elternsprecher and some times there was only 3 parents at an Elternabend for ds's class. I tried to make a telephone list but only half the class agreed to it! In dd's class here at Gymnasium a few parents tried to do a getting to know each other event but no one was interested and I got the idea that the teacher wasn't either (they asked him to join).
cheas good luck with the translating! I'm like you, I read, collect and save stuff but never get any further! I have files and files of teaching English info, grammar, exercises etc but will never use it!
ploom hope the skype connection worked out. Yes, Lötstation is a little mini soldering set with stand and bits and bobs that I have no idea what they're for! Dd made something once at a Messe Austellung (a metal penny farthing bike) and since then has wanted her own soldering set! I'd rather have got her a glue gun thing but it's done now!
Pouring down here today. Since last term when I had to pay for a borrowed school book because it got damp on the walk home in torrential rain I won't let the dc out of the house without rain coats and umbrellas so they're atleast all set to get home relatively dry without me havig to pick them up!
Nutella can your DH hear the baby's heartbeat through your tummy now? Someone else on here said it so I got DH to lie with his ear on my bump, and he could hear it! It was nice as he was really pleased plus he got to have an experience with the baby for once that I couldn't (not that flexible!)
Hmm I'm wondering if we need a breast pump now...
only 3 parents at an Elternabend for ds's class
I have no understanding for this, I know it's totally judgemental, but I don't care as i cannot stand parents with an attitude like that.
But what does that say about the school and the teacher and their "parents-managment-skills"?!
A private get-together IS different, but to snub an Elternabend, well...
Cake It's very hard to say beforehand as, even if you do bf, you may find you never need to pump. I would only get one if you knew you could return it if you didn't need it, as cheas suggests. I wasted money on a bottle warmer that I used all of about twice. And also ended up with a ridiculous amount of dummies (all of which I got for free), although at least I managed to sell some of those on eBay.
admylin The Heurigenabend was actually the teacher's idea, but DH said he'd organise it. We're also putting together a list with the parents' details and have said we'll include everyone unless they opt out. When the teacher was collecting the e-mail addresses for us, she said that one child's mother didn't want to pass on her e-mail address but she didn't send us back the slip on the printout saying that she wanted to opt out, so I'm not sure what we'll do about her.
How annoying about the school books. I suppose that's one advantage of the children being given them here, although it means we accumulate a huge amount of text and exercise books every year. DH has said we can go through them and see what we need when the last child leaves primary school! In the meantime, we have six boxes and counting.
world Yes, we've learned from experience and will definitely do that next time!
Linzer what is a Heurigenabend?
A Heuriger is a wine tavern; the name can also apply to this year's wine or even new potatoes (heuer is Austrian for "this year"). So our Heurigenabend is a get-together at a Heuriger, carefully selected to be within walking distance of our house so that both DH and I can drink. We're in a wine-growing area, so there's lots of choice!
It sounds sooooo nice. I would come . No seriously, thanks for this great explanation!
Argh Linzer how do you put up those blimin' ignorant, entitled, arrogant teachers you have to deal with when you teach at your DDs' school - you'd have thought they were doing you a favour allowing you to prepare and teach their classes for free, the way they seem to treat you! How annoying to that the parents can't be bothered to at least let you know thy aren't coming to your get together.
world "I also remember that this didn't use to be so unusual for German culture as well. In my school days, parents showed up for Elternabend and Elternsprechtag, and it wasn't uncommon for only ONE parent to show up, nothing else was expected, I mean who else was going to watch the child or other children during that time and no-one would have made a fuss of getting a babysitter or grandparents to mind them, only so BOTH parents could attend..." tbh I don't actually get why 2 parents need to go either - why? My DH has never set foot inside DD's school - I go to everything and take notes. My only gripe is I'd really like him to go and me stay home with the kids as he is the native German speaker, but in all honesty my German is good enough now and I understand everything, I just struggle to form my questions and it is agony having to ask a question in front of the teacher and 30 parents in comprehensible but inaccurate German, yet sometimes it is necessary. Last time I sat by a mum I knew well and whispered to her what I wanted to ask and she wrote it down in corrected Gemran for me though! I don't actually get why both parents need to go at all, and it just isn't feasible with 3 children, one of whom is a toddler who sleeps poorly - I wouldn't ask anyone but my PIL to babysit all 3 as long as the toddler is likely to wake, and for them to do so they'd have to stay the night really, as they live an hour's drive away and these things finish late - overkill IMO!
Nutella I loved having to sit and listen to the heart beat when I was pregnant with DC2 and 3, as it never happens in England (the midwife has a quick listen with a stethoscope) and it was an excuse to have to sit peacefully - but then I always have a book in my bag, plus I am lazy and had other small children I used to take DD to my apts but she would sit and draw on the floor at my feet (she wouldn't have been so docile at home) and when I was pregnant with DC3 both the older 2 were at Kindergarten, so I got half an hour of enforced peace when I couldn't possibly be expected to feel guilty I wasn't doing anything else I must admit once I had heard the heart beat for a minute or two each time that stopped being the reason I was sitting there in my mind though!!
Oops I have to get DS1 from KiGA
cake I never needed a breast pump, I had one but only used it when I wanted to leave expressed milk for DD when she started nursery, but she wouldn't drink it (I had filled my freezer with litres of the stuff) and in the end I resigned from my job (not because she didn't drink expressed milk obviously but it meant she wasn't in nursery long anyway). I think I still have one though and could send it if you don't mind second hand, obviously it is all plastic and gets sterilized anyway... not 100% sure, have barely started sorting yet
Waves at everyone else, got to rush now!
English yes it is overkill. I don't mean that both have to go, but that's what I am seeing here as a new development as well...and then there is too much of getting to know one another and having this
I am sure your German must be great, I could hardly imagine otherwise.
Just a quick post as I'm taking advantage of DS being totally knocked out after zooming around playgroup all morning to pack for our trip to Austria next week.
Breast pumps - I had to pump quite a lot for the first few weeks to get my supply up and I had a prescription from the hospital for a breast pump from the Apotheke (no charge, just a deposit we got back when we returned) for 4 weeks. I hadn't even thought of buying one before the birth (actually I don't think I even knew they existed) and once my supply was up I as glad to see the back of the thing. It was a really good one as well, that I wouldn't have been able to justify buying. Plus I had a lot of bf problems so gave up after 3 months so am glad I didn't pay out for one - like the others said, it's maybe only worth it if you bf for a bit longer.
Possibly not helpful information at all, just wanted to let whoever was asking know that you may be able to get one that way too if you need one.
Have a lovely weekend everyone!
You too. Enjoy your trip!!!
Cake it was me who suggested getting DH to listen to the hearbeat because the first time DP tried all he got was a lot of punching/kicking in the face . Glad your DH could hear it too.
DP was talking to the bump the other night and the bean wriggled away almost the whole time which he loved - awwww cute man my one .
Thank you everyone for all the breast pump tips, it is really useful to hear your experiences! I have no idea so think I'll first see how we get on and then figure it out from there...
English if I'd been prepared for sitting there for half an hour I'd have been happier. But I also had to hold one of the pads so that it could pick up the HB ... and I was cold but really glad I had DP with me. In total we were at the Dr's for two hours (apparently they had a little emergency) so I was really glad to go home. I've had enough of being prodded and poked.
The next check up is in 4 weeks (including the 30minute HB check) and after that every two weeks... but I might swap at some point to just having the MW come over and do a much more relaxed check up...
Oh was it!! Ha ha I must have pregnancy brain!
No worries cake, happy it worked for you guys, I think it makes the menfolk happy to be able to do something that we can't
Gosh I have terrible preggo brain and have to write everything down! I have a little black notebook that I usually carry with me and I managed to hide it under some papers for the last 2 days... I looked everywhere! But I'm confident the brain fog and bad sleep will all be over sometime in the next 18 years...
Pops by, misreads nutella's post thinking she is expecting bad sleep to be over in 18 months, and laughs hollowly, then re-reads, 18 years, yes hopefully Maybe 8 years - I'm happy with the way my year old sleeps, still waiting for on the younger to sleep past 5.30am in the 5 year old's case, and through the night in the 17 month old's! Mind you I never found pregnancy affected my sleep, so may you get one or the other and if your baby keeps you awake in pregnancy he will sleep beautifully in his cot...
* happy with the way my 7 year old sleeps Missed the 7!
<Chuckles at English> 18 months indeed .... If only eh?!
I'm having problems getting comfy, then often when I'm awake the baby wakes and then I can't sleep or get back to sleep . At the moment lack of sleep is making me poorl; I always get a sore throat when I'm a bit in down.... Plus it might be making me slightly more emotional -poor DP I might have had a little bit of a meltdown today
Think it's in there doing an exercise DVD tonight
Excercise DVD ha ha ha ha this is hilarious
Hope everyone had a good weekend. It was lovely and sunny here on Saturday so we spent most of the day out in the garden, and then it poured with rain all day yesterday. We went on a tour of a local(ish - actually about an hour's drive away) bakery, which was quite interesting and we also got to make our own Flesserl (plaited bread rolls), which I was hopeless at but they looked better once they'd been baked.
I was quite excited this morning to discover that I can now book appointments with my dermatologist online. Apart from the fact that I hate using the phone anyway, I'm always ridiculously indecisive and come off the phone wishing that I'd taken the other option they'd given me/gone for an earlier or late appointment. As it was, I spent five minutes poring over the appointments available. Now, I'm just worried that I selected allergy testing rather than check-up. And if I did select check-up, did I select the right length (long rather than short)? (I'm not only indecisive, I'm also a worrier. )
Linzer The bakery tour sounds interesting.
I´d love to be able to make appointments online. I always put off appointments for as long as possible because I hate phoning.
We went to see Madagascar 3 at the cinema yesterday. The dc loved it, but I thought it was really disappointing compared to the first 2 films.
Cheddar I don´t know if you´re still reading, but I forgot to answer your question about schooling in Hessen. Most children start school at 6. It´s only those children whose birthdays fall between the cut off date of 30th June and the start of the school year, usually in August, who are 7 when they start.
hupa I thought about going to see Madagascar 3 with DD2 yesterday afternoon, but am glad I didn't now (wasn't sure it would be my kind of film anyway). Our neighbour was taking her elder two and DD2 really wanted to go as well; she said she would take her too, but we decided in the end that the screening was a bit too late.
I'm feeling a bit verunsichert after a conversation I had with two of our neighbours this morning. We were complaining about the new lamp post as there's a nice traditional looking one on the other side of the street, where there's a 1970s style block of flats, whereas our side of the street - where all the villas are* - has a horrible concrete one and I said "es passt überhaupt nicht dazu", at which they both burst out laughing. He has a particularly loud hyena-like laugh, which made it all the more unsettling! I can't work out what I said wrong - apart from the fact that I should have used sie rather than es (I struggle to use er or sie if there's an inanimate object involved), but surely that wouldn't have made it hysterically funny?
*not a stealth boast - we live in a terraced house
Linzer I can´t see what was wrong with what you said. Maybe they´ve both got an unusaul sense of humour, although I can´t see anything funny in what you said.
I´ve just been to the Optiker to order a new pair of glasses. My last pair broke about 3 months ago and I´ve been putting off going because I wasn´t sure what the system was for getting a new pair. I surprised myself by choosing a new pair within 5 minutes - I usually dither around for ages. Hopefully, I´ll still like them when I go to pick them up.
Hello Linzer I wouldn't say er oder sie and rather use das in case of an inanimate objetct. Das passt überhaupt....
What makes you think you said something wrong??? Maybe you were spot-on and in the context and tone of the entire conversation it was witty OR sometimes they wholeheartedly agree with you and you said it in a dry witty way which included (not intended by you) a snobbish/smug undertone. This makes people feel agreeing with you and yet it is something said which possibly remains unspoken usually. Against all general opinion, yes the German language has lots of Feinheiten and various tones of how to be rude, clumsy, brash, refined, witty, stupid, diplomatic, critical, nice, friendly, etc....the list is long which might remain hidden forever to the non-native speaker.
Don't worry. It would be last thing on my mind. The worrying might also be an Anglo-Germanic cultural difference.
MN is a good training ground for this. Would I have taken all the bullying or smug and rude responses here seriously, 'dann hätte ich mir auch schon längst die Kugel geben müssen..'
Linzer I'm also stymied as to why your neighbours fell about laughing at that comment. Maybe world can shed some light?
hupa films like Madagascar are definitely not my thing. Am now dreading dd reaching the age where I have to take her to that kind of stuff!
admylin and linzer glad it's not just me who prefers to google and buy books rather than actually do anything productive . Although it's not actually a great trait to have...
ploom that my casually referring to recording studios came across as impressive and/or exciting! Two rooms in a semi-renovated cellar with ancient carpet pinned to the walls in lieu of sound-proofing and no ventilation (hence the headache) is hardly glamorous!!! We were recording a backing track to a short promotional film - the client had brought a spacey-sounding hip hop track with bursts of operatic singing and we somehow managed to recreate a similar mood using a keyboard preset drum beat and an arrangement of Nessun Dorma for violin (!) and piano .
I hope your dd gets a chance to play in an orchestra at some point. I think the youth orchestra provision in the UK is better than here, although I guess it varies a lot depending on the size of the Musikschule (or school) as to whether they can put together a large ensemble.
cake well done for making Discussions of the Day with your thread! I think you might change your mind about the Mummy Mitts, or "Buggy Muff" as they are known here if it's as cold this winter as it was last year .
Hope everyone else had a good weekend.
X-posted, world. It's strange how much adjustment is needed to make things read like you intend them, isn't it? I mean, we are all exposed to so much writing, whether humorous or advisary or factual or whatever, and are capable of finely gauging tone when having a conversation, and yet actually conveying tone in what we write is so difficult.
Hi cheas yy I find it incredibly difficult. I remember when I was post-grad in the U.S. and worked there, how much email training we have received and how much they wanted us to rather meet and verbalise in person what we would like to get across.
There is so much research which I am sure is very interesting to linguists. I am happy when they break it down to me in the end and present the end-results
This reminds me of the translator discussion some of you had here. I do believe that there is a market in cross-cultural communication training.
world you may be on to something here. "In a second" usually means a minute or so in te UK, "in a moment/minute" means you can go for lunch and "later" often is the next day and "some time" could easily stratch to never. The Germans of course take it literally (me included, for the first few weeks in the UK) but you have to take it all with a (massive) "pinch of salt".
linzer no idea why the neigbours found it funny but maybe they agreed and were relieved that someone thought along their lines.
will try to catch up later, lunch reak over...
Sorry; sleep deprived moaning.... totally selfish of me I know but I need to moan...
DP, FIL and BIL tried wallpapering the corner on saturday (I was given serious assurances by DP that BIL and FIL knew what they were doing, sadly FIL believes he knows what he is doing; but was actually doing a shit (sorry for language but it really made me ) job) in what will be our baby corner...
Anyway... I was supposed to be resting and long story short I was the only one with any clue on how to paper... and ended up being asked by DP, while FIL was out on an errand, to help <unhappy, tired, pregnant lady emoticon>
This room is three walls 2.5m x 2.5m x 3m ish and the ceiling .... nothing tooo fancy... we managed to get the ceiling done (between 9am and 2pm), they put one piece on the wall and I was so unhappy with everything they were doing - which DP could tell- DP sent them home <utter relief emoticon> and said we would continue another day...
Yesterday we met some friends for coffee and cake and one friend's family business is essentially renovating houses or building them... and she rang her brother moaned at him and discussed with him and her brother in law and another guy should be round later in the week to do the job <jaw drop emoticon> I love my friend, beyond words right now... I really really really hope they can do it!!!
Ah well, it looks like it shall remain a mystery and I shall never know why I caused the neighbours so much amusement. (I bumped into one of them again later and was quite tempted to ask her, but was worried it might sound a bit mad. ) Thanks anyway to everyone for your input. I think I'll just assume it was the tone in which I said it that made it so hysterically funny, as I have no other explanation. A career as a stand-up comedian awaits.
cheas I've come to the conclusion that children's films (the ones you see in the cinema here at least, and particularly animated ones) aren't my thing full stop. Without exception, I've been counting the minutes every time I've been to the cinema with the DC. DH, in all his wisdom, has just ordered Mr Bean's complete works for them. OTOH I've quite enjoyed watching Fawlty Towers with them, although I'd forgotten quite how dated it was (well, it probably wasn't when I first watched it!).
Nutella sounds like a good offer from your friend, hope they can help you. We had to paper a box room when we moved in here as it had been painted over about 20 times by the look of it. I had to pay someone to do it but got a very good price (100 for papering and painting white) on MyHammer.de!
Linzer I'm pleased that you atleast have a jolly laughing neighbour even if you don't get why he was laughing! Better than grumpy moaners!
Is your Heurigenabend sorted yet?
hupa did you need new strengths in your lenses too or just a new frame? I think I am in need of stronger ones soon otherwise alot of books have started printing in really small letters!
Just brought dd back from having a tooth out (milk tooth) to start her braces treatment next week. Seems so strange taking a healthy tooth out but the new tooth was coming up behind it so it wasn't getting pushed out by anything. She's feeling uncomfortable now as the injection pricks are starting to hurt.
admylin Yes, jolly is definitely a good word to describe him; you can hear him laughing from miles away (he does seem to laugh at things quite easily!). I did wonder initially whether they might be laughing at me using an Austrianism (Austrians seem to use passen/passt much more than Germans do), but they've been here longer than I have so it seems unlikely.
The Heurigenabend is slowly coming together; all the Austrian families have replied now and we have 25 coming altogether, which is quite a good number. Much better than the 60-odd it would have been if everyone and their parents had been able to turn up (it would have been even more with brothers and sisters, of course).
Both DDs have had milk teeth out because the new teeth came up too far behind to push them out, but both said it didn't hurt at all (the injections or even afterwards, I think). Things have obviously moved on since my day, as I remember even the injections being horribly painful and then my jaw would be numb and painful for ages afterwards.
Well dd is asleep now, completely hidden under her bed covers so I hop eit doesn't hurt anymore when she wakes up. They've both had teeth out before (in Berlin) with no pain just alot of blood.
25 taking part sounds like a good number. Shame some of the class will miss out. Does your dd have friends in the class? Are they atleast coming?
Ds has just announced that he has 4 Klassenarbeiten next week. I'm sure I read that they aren't meant to have so many in 1 week. I mean how are they supposed to revise for 4?
Off to drive ds to table tennis. Have a nice Feierabend everyone!
She knows about a third of the class from primary school, but I don't know whether I'd class any of them as close friends - and of those, only two (twins) are coming on Friday. The rest of those coming are boys (none from her old class); one is the half-British one, so it will be interesting to meet his parents. I was disproportionately excited when a car with Union Jack and Scottish flag stickers (and a local numberplate) on it drove past me earlier today; thank goodness we didn't end up in Vienna, as I'm not sure I could cope with the excitement of so much multiculturalism.
Four Klassenarbeiten does sound like a lot; what subjects are they in? DD1 has her first Schularbeit (in maths) next week, which I assume is the same thing. She got a 1 in her English test last week, which she was really proud about; all that spelling practice definitely paid off. One of her mistakes I didn't really class as a mistake anyway, as she'd written "hundred" instead of "a hundred"; I'd been more focused on getting her to write hundred correctly rather than hunderd so I hadn't bothered insisting on the a. Was also quite today when she told me that one of her English teachers had told her to spell purple "burble".
Hello, sounds like there were some nice relaxing weekends, apart from the decorating - that sounds horrendous. I don't think I could paper properly either. I'm far too cack-handed.
I love the crisp weather at this time of year. Just perfect for walking. We went to the Fall festival downtown this weekend. The kids got to paint pumpkins, which is always nice.
I couldn't work out what you had said wrong either Linzer. Mind, I had once nearly caused offence at the dentist when saying sie haben was falsches gemacht as Sie and sie are impossible to distinguish! Glad the Heurigerabend is coming together.
It's taken me ages to write this much. Apologies to anyone I have missed. Must get on and do something useful with the boys!
Ja Bienchen das sind wirklich gute Beispiele, die nicht typischerweise in Büchern oder Kapiteln zum Thema interkulturelle Kommunikation zu finden sind. Ich finde die Kommunikation hier, wie Ignorieren oder einen auf "Doofmachen" bzw. Leute sehr unterschiedlich behandeln was die Freundlichkeit und Zurückhaltung der Kritik betrifft, sehr auffällig.
Solange ich mich im Land des Anderen aufhalte, bin ich sehr interessiert zu lernen und mich anzupassen ohne meine eigene Persönlichkeit dabei aufzugeben, aber sein eigene verklärte Sichtweise der Dinge überall mit sich herumzuschleppen, nennt man auch ethnozentrisch. Ein sehr wichtiges Thema in der IK.
Das ist auch der Grund warum ich schon längst erkannt habe, dass dieses Forum (genauso with Toytown), jedenfalls für mich, nichts ist. Es ist ja auch nicht für Leute wie mich gedacht, und das ist auch gut so
linzer - glad you got the replies for your Heurigenabend. Sounds like it'll be a fun evening. I puzzled for ages yesterday about what could have been wrong about what you said to the neighbour but like the others couldnt fathom it. Glad its not just me that struggles with using er or sie for inanimate objects - it's something I must improve on.
admylin - wow 4 Klassenarbeiten in 1 week - thats a lot. Will be very difficult for him to do his best in all of them. Can you speak to the teachers about it? How is your dd's mouth this morning?
jenny - I also love autumn/fall - agree its perfect for walking. Have heard that the whole pumpkin picking thing is much more fun in America - well anything is more fun than buying it from Aldi .
nutella - thats too good that the friend can get someone to do your decorating - you really shouldnt be doing that kind of thing at nearly 30 weeks pregnant.
ok cheas - you've ruined the glamour in my mind of a recording studio . But its still more interesting than what I do of a day! Ds1 wants to go next week to see Madagascar 3 for his birthday so I'll not be escaping it (unless I can get dh to take ds1 and his wee friends!). I quite enjoy some of the disney/pixar films (monsters inc especially) but its the obsession with star wars at the moment thats driving me mad.
hupa - very impressed that you found a pair of glasses so quickly - I always dither too long. Are glasses as expensive here as in the UK?
world - I really find it in poor taste to post bitchy comments on a longstanding thread about the posters on that thread. I'm sorry you dont find everyone as friendly as you like but you came on here of your own free will and you are free to leave if you dont like the thread. I have been on this thread for nearly 4 years and have had nothing but support, friendship and fun chat from the other posters and am sure thats how the thread will continue (thankfully!!).
Anyway off to crack on with the housework before going to pick up ds2 at 11.15 (how is that a school day when he's finished so early!!??!!)
Morning! <yawns> DH had a 7 am flight to catch this morning and I didn't manage to get back to sleep after he'd got up at whatever godforsaken hour it was, so I'm in definite need of a .
Jenny I'm another one who loves autumn (I'm not a great fan of either very hot or very cold weather). I saw some pumpkins in the supermarket yesterday, labelled Jack o'Lanterns - I wonder if Austria has a trade descriptions act (they were normal pumpkins and nothing had been done to them)!
world I'm sorry you feel that way, but I don't think anyone has tried to make anyone else look/feel stupid. Re the ignoring, I think that's a fairly common issue on long-running threads with regular posters; I've been on quite a few and used to find it a little annoying when I'd write a post and the following three or four posters seemed to ignore it while responding to what others had written, but quickly came to realise that it's nothing personal. And I think it's inevitable on a thread like this, which for many of us is our only outlet with fellow expats, that we end up - often lightheartedly - complaining about the German/Austrian way of doing things, but that doesn't mean I automatically assume the British way is always right.
Ploom Oh, tell me about Star Wars - in fact, please don't tell me about it as I hear more than enough from DS and his friends! I've given up trying to tell DS that Anakin isn't actually pronounced Ennikin. Does your DS normally finish at 11.15 or is today an exception? That's not a school day; it's not even a whole morning!
oh linzer - that was way too early a start. Is he off somewhere exciting? By exciting I mean will he bring back something nice?
ha ha about enniken!! I've also given up trying to tell them the right way to say it. My sister bought ds1 a star wars clone wars dvd for his birthday but they only watched it once because it was in English and obviously he's Anikan in English and "errzweidehzwei" is R2D2 so they werent happy. But despite all the star wars conversations in the house I've still never seen a whole film right thro (and plan to keep it that way).
I agree that on other threads a lot of posts get ignored but I really dont find that on this one (which is probably why I only really post on here). And I agree that I've never noticed anyone make anyone feel stupid. Sometimes there are German words that come up that I dont understand but thats no-one's fault but mine. Thankfully I understood every word of world's post although I'm not entirely sure I whether I was supposed to or not!
Frankfurt, so no - nowhere particularly exciting! I don't think there's anything I really miss about Germany that I can't get here, so I'm not expecting any exciting presents.
Oh yes, er-zwo de-zwo is another one; I was having
an argument a discussion with DH recently about how much easier it is to say R2D2 in English! Plus DS, for some strange reason, likes to call him erbs-zwo. He even has an R2D2 cuddly toy.
I agree that this is one of the friendliest and most inclusive threads I've been on, which is why it's about the only one I still post on (I didn't flounce from any of the longer-running ones I used to post on, which were all perfectly friendly too; I just can't keep up with more than one!). Ploom About half the German words I use on here are probably Austrian, so incomprehensible to a lot of Germans too; when I was writing about our Heurigenabend the other day, it didn't even cross my mind that most people outside Austria wouldn't know what a Heuriger is.
Linzer your dh is away lots. How long this time? How is the process for getting the money spent on business trips back? Dh has just found out that they've employed a cpompany to do those abrechnungen so it should be better and quicker (still waiting for Portugal pay back).
ploom star wars didn't make it to our house, either wasn't current when ds was at an age to enjoy it or he was into other stuff. I have also never seen a star wars film right through, well except the very first ancient one when I was
world maybe we come across differently to you but I've never had a problem on here. Sometimes this thread is just nice to pop in and pop back out of for a quick chat in the middle of a busy day, other times some of us won't even have time for a few days.
jenny this is the best season isn't it? Have you got your house decorated?
Hmm, have had a look at the amount of biology that ds has got to revise and it looks like a lot (immune biology) but he says it's not so who am I to know?! Must find out what the other 3 tests are in and then decide on asking the parent rep. what he thinks.
Just until tomorrow, admylin; he's rarely away for more than a couple of days. I think he just hands in his receipts somewhere at work and then gets reimbursed the following month, although the flights and (usually) hotels are paid for from a company account so he doesn't have to fork out for those. Hope your DH gets his money back soon; he has to pay for his flights and accommodation out of his own pocket, doesn't he?
Yes linzer all his trips have to be payed out of his own pocket. This one totals at 1400 which is a big lump to add to other monthly bills that we already have.
Dd made a small fortune for her birthday on Sunday! She is now trying to decide what to spend it on but I think she has everything she needs right down to the soldering set! Anyway, she found a hot glue gun that she has always wanted so that's another thing for her to find room for in her bedroom!
Now I need tips for Friday. She's having a sleep over with movie night - so 3 dvds lined up, popcorn, pizza etc but one of her friends isn't into sleep overs or movies so she's starting the party early straight after school so this other girl can join in until 6pm when she will be picked up.
Dd had thought to do a chocolate making session (one of her hobbies) but I'm thinking they'll get an hour at most out of that and my kitchen will look great afterwards. I think I should try starting a thread for ideas!
world didn't mean us with "hier", surely?
World if you want to post in secret to one person it's better to PM than write in a the language of the country most of the posters on the thread live in, I don't know whether writing in German was the equivalent of a stage whisper? I never name check everyone because I am far too disorganised and usually distracted by small children or the fact I really should be doing something else at the same time, I'm not ignoring anyone and often I don't have any direct experience of what one person is saying so would not be able to make a useful comment, whereas others will or already have... It's not ignorant to be a bit wistful about the ways of the country you grew up in when living long term elsewhere, most people of all backgrounds do it IMO...
Linzer DD finishes at 11.20 twice a week too, and she's 2nd class now - would have been once a week if she'd done Instramental but she was given a choice of options and signed herself up for recorder, but more children signed up for singing and dancing so that is running instead and the recorder children are not allowed to change their vote and just have to come home rather than being allowed to join the alternative class . I have just been to see her teacher, not about that but about the hours and hours homework is taking her when we have been told repeatedly it should only be an hour. I wondered if she is slow in class and so having to finish classwork as homework, and also just wanted her teacher's opinion. She was more helpful than I expected and suggested some strategies and things to try, and gave me permission to write in her homework book if it takes her more than 2 hours and she will be allowed to carry the homework over to finish at the weekend without getting into trouble if I do that, which is an exception to the usual. Her main answer though was that Dd is a typical summer born child, and her age in comparison to the class average shows as she is more "Kindlisch" and a day dreamer, which apparently the bright summer born kids who start school at not quite or only just 6 often are... She said hopefully she will catch up over then next year or 2 but it sometimes takes longer ... bit argh as it makes me wish a bit I'd kept her back, but she said a she would have ideally started 6 months later, a year would have been too long - can't really win there but glad we're keeping DC2 back when his time comes...
Nutella the wallpaper fiasco sounds a bit of a drama! I had DC1's room all finished and beautiful at about 30 weeks pregnant - then she didn't arrive til 42 weeks and didn't sleep anywhere but on my chest once she did, so it was just a nappy change room for 5 or 6 months When DC2 was born his room was still undecorated and full of boxes (we'd not long moved and I knew he'd be in with us) and when DC3 arrived he didn't even have a room, just a cot in our "dressingroom" (room you have to walk through to get to our room where our wardrobes and linen are) with some jungle animal wall stickers to brighten his corner up and a picture DD had drawn him with "Welcome baby" written on it
BTW Nutella and cake I have started the baby sorting but I have been terribly disorganised with putting stuff from DC away and have all sizes mixed together from newborn to 74cm and I am only part way through, doing 2 boxes as I go along, not sure what to do about bigger items but will work it out - don't either of you go and have your babies early as I'm not ready!!
Jenny I like bright autumn days too, not so keen on today though, it's been raining all day so far...
Ploom DS1 likes the idea of Starwars but doesn't actually have the concentration span to watch the films properly (he can watch younger children's films like 'Cars' through but I think Starwars is a bit over his head. He doesn't really know who is who apart from Darth Vader and neither do most of his 4 and 5 year old friends but that doesn't stop him and his friends playing Starwars... Same can actually be said of Spiderman, who they all proclaim themselves fans of but I don't think any of them have seen the films or cartoons...
I think you're all missing the point of taking kids to kids films though, it's an hour and a half to switch your brain off and doze whilst appearing to be a lovely parent who takes their DC to their choice of film... Lovely Maybe I can hire myself out to parents to take their kids to the cinema instead of teaching VHS classes (Only available to kids who don't need to go to the toilet multiple times during a film though )
admylin - I organised non alcoholic cocktails for dd's last birthday. She found 5 different ones on the internet and I bought the ingredients then left them to make them themselves. My only mistake was not trying them first as some of them werent so tasty. You could also do a treasure hunt in the house with the prize being cheap nail varnish and sweets. I used a great website to make clues - will see if I can find it again.
english - sounds like a nice wee job taking dc to the cinema but since its so bloody expensive I doubt parents would want to pay you anything on top of the entry fee, 3D glasses, sweets etc etc!! Stick to the VHS! My dc have also never seen spiderman but also seem to be fans . Agree star wars is a bit old for a 5 year old - ds2 only watched it at that age as ds1 was watching it. How he got into it, I've no idea. .
From what you've said about your dd before, she sounds like she was definitely academically ready for school last year but it is tricky as to whether she'd have benefited from another 6 months at home (which wasnt an option obviously). Think its good that you spoke to the teacher tho as she'll then know that you've got those concerns and she seems like a reasonable teacher - ds1's teacher would be writing in red in his homework heft if the work wasnt done.
Poor ds1 had diarrhoea over the weekend so I kept him home yesterday. He didnt do anymore all day yesterday so I sent him to school this morning. He's just came home before - immediately a whole load again - twice. I feel bad for sending him to school this morning but he'd been over 24 hours clear - hope he hasnt infected anyone else. He doesnt feel or look unwell so I'm hoping that its not so infectious but no idea why he keeps having it. So its Zwieback for him today and nothing else - thankfully he loves them and would eat them when he's not poorly - I'm not such a fan!
ploom does your ds have tummy ache too? My ds often gets the runs and I can't find out what it's caused by.
That is a great idea, dd would love cocktails and I'd rather they do that than make a mess with melted chocolate! When your dd gets in maybe she can give me her best tasting cocktail tips? The shy girl who is coming won't go near nail varnish and won't eat sweets due to braces - treasure hunt also no good as flat is abit too small but another type of game maybe. If you find a website for me you'd be a life saver.
english that's what I used to enjoy about taking the dc to the cinema too! Have slept through some sort of Eisbär film, Wilde Kerle and a few others! Always came out refreshed and rested!
English Du glaubst doch wohl selbst nicht, dass ich der Meinung bin ihr könntet das nicht verstehen, oder?! Das ist wirklich ein ziemlich blödsinniger Gedanke oder wolltest du mir gerade soviel Dummheit unterstellen
Schön Euch alle kennengelernt zu haben, ich habe unheimlich viel mitgenommen und es hat sich einfach für mich Vieles bestätigt.
Manchmal ist es eben doch einfach besser sich darauf zu einigen, dass man sich uneins ist.
World I was being sarcastic.
Ploom you are right my plan is somewhat flawed there! Hope your DS's tummy is better soon - my 5 year old has unexplained diarrhoea sometimes but I think it's because he sometimes eats badly - I don't believe in making a fuss about what the kids eat but serve them healthy food and think insisting/ bribing/ threatening so they clear their plates can be the root of later problems (whether with weight or other food issues) but sometimes he manages to live on meat and carbs which can't be good! Guess it can also be that they are still building up resistance to mild bugs that might not affect the other family members at all.
admylin glad I'm not the only one who enjoys/ed snoozing through kids' cinema trips
DD is now happily doing research on forest mice on a lovely website we just found, funny how she's happily doing that even though its not due in til Thursday, but a sheet of maths causes wailing and gnashing of teeth... The teacher did say she's one of the better readers in the class, the problem is really at least 90% with maths, and actually today the approach the teacher suggested of looking at what she's got and assigning her 10 minute tasks to do rather than just looking at the whole of a sheet or subject as one task worked well and she did her maths without a fuss
admylin Cocktails sound like a good idea. Have you found out yet what dd plans to do/make with the soldering iron?
English Well done for speaking to the teacher. It sounds like a ridiculous amount of homework. How to turn children off school before they´ve really started.
Jenny Another Autumn lover here. We live in a heavily forested area so the trees look fantastic at this time of year - not up to new England standards, but still very impressive.
So far ds has shown no interest in Star Wars despite his friends being into it. Mind you he then gets annoyed when they want to play Star Wars and he doesn´t know what they´re on about. DD also managed to skip the Hannah Montana phase that most of her friends went through which I was mightly pleased about.
world I think you must be reading a different thread to the rest of us. I´ve always found it very welcoming and supportive here. With so many people on the thread it´s impossible to reply to everyone all the time.
hupa Yes, I was also very glad that DD1 never got into Henneh Montenna; none of DD2's friends seem to be into it, so fingers crossed we've escaped. DS has never seen any of the Star Wars films; he's just got into it through his friends.
English It's good that the teacher has been so helpful. It's a difficult one wrt keeping children back, esp. if a whole year would have been too long for your DD, but from what you've said about her she seems to be quite bright and girls tend to be ahead of boys at that age anyway, so I'm sure she'll catch up soon enough. I do wish we'd kept DD1 back, but it never crossed our minds at the time (she wasn't a summer baby anyway). Oh, and I'll never complain about DS finishing at 11.50 am again; at least it's almost lunchtime!
admylin / Ploom The cocktails sound like a great idea. I'm making a mental note of everything for future birthday parties!
Ploom Hope your DS is on the mend soon. DH always swears by coke and Soletti when he has an upset stomach, although the doctor told him recently that coke isn't great as it has too much sugar in it IIRC.
I'm obviously not sleep-deprived enough to enjoy the cinema! I just find myself sitting there thinking that I could be doing something much more productive with my time. I actually took my MP3 player along once to listen to some podcasts, but the film was too loud.
I remember being taken to a film involving My Little Ponies and evil purple smog as a child. In retrospect, the adult who sat through that with us must have been a saint .
world I can only echo what hupa has written. I have never read (or written, for that matter) anything on this thread intended to belittle or poke fun at another poster.
I've read back and I can't see where any offence was implied or stated. Sorry you feel like that world. Also apologies to all the new members of the thread (or namechangers?) whom I've missed while my dps were here. I'm sure everyone has made you feel very welcome. I can only keep up with a couple of threads at the most, otherwise I find myself getting too sucked in. Yesterday I spent far too long reading a thread about George Osborne. Anyway, we have a whole pile of tomatoes on the dining room table hoping they will ripen and ds2 likes to throw them on the floor. Best go and pick them up. Good Tuesday everyone!
I'm not sure what I have said or done so I am genuinely baffled! If someone could enlighten me I'd be very grateful. I don't know where the PM's come in .
Then again , I have gatecrashed this thread and should have just started a new one for my queries; I purely posted here because it seemed a busy thread hence likely to give me an answer at short notice.
bienchen - will PM you.
jenny - hope you rescued the tomatoes
hupa oh the dreaded hannah montana - very glad that phase is past!
Ds1 has a right dose of the squits . But he's otherwise absolutely fine thankfully. Thanks for the tips linzer but we dont have coca cola at home or any fizzy drinks so will just stick to giving him water and Zwieback. Oh and definitely no school tomorrow.
cheas I can only remember being taken to see one film as a child, ET, and feeling horribly confused by it. I don't think I went again until I was about 16!
jenny I daren't look at active convos, otherwise I end up getting sucked in. Posting on one thread is enough for me (although I do spend more time lurking than I should).
bienchen You haven't done anything at all and there's absolutely no need to apologise for gatecrashing (which you haven't done anyway); everyone's welcome here. Hopefully Ploom will explain.
Ploom I'm not sure whether they were tips as such as I'm a bit about some of DH's ideas about health! I'd far rather have water than coke if I had a stomach upset, although I was a bit by the doctor telling DH coke has too much sugar in it as I thought you were supposed to add sugar and salt to water to make a rehydration drink. Maybe not as much as sugar as is in coke, though!
Thanks Ploom and Linzer, I will not dwell but offer my 2 cents on tummy bugs instead .
Conventional wisdom in my youth was black tea and Zwieback. When my DC had a bout here in the UK the advice was to just feed them whatever. I think the latest is stale lemonade (as it is sugary) but not as aggressive as coca cola which is really acidic. Luckily DC are not prone to the squirts but I offer stale lemonade or boiled water/peppermint tea and dry toast until their stomachs are settled.
Ploom hope the bug is overcome soon as yes to no school until 24 hours after it has cleared up.
My happy experience today was to find an intensive swimming course for DD (4 x 1 hour/week in the afternoon for a couple of weeks). She has been going for over a year here but 30 mins on a Saturday morning just don't cut it for her. Plus she is very tall and cheats by walking along the bottom rather than swimming and the instructors are letting her get away with it. All researched on the internet and then booked over the phone direct with the pool. It may not be rivetting news for you but as she had to wait for her lessons here for about 6 months before they had a vacancy, it might explain my excitement. New course starts at the end of Nov, so she has time to settle in a bit first
before getting thrown in at the deep end.
This thread has taken a strange turn while I have been busy!
Sorry I'm finding it hard to keep up at the moment, but I AM reading and will try and get back into things.... hope everyone is having a schön Abend
Bienchen Yes, the doctor recommended black tea to DH, but not peppermint tea - which I'd always thought was good for digestive problems (I can't remember now what her reasoning was). That makes sense about coke being too acidic. I'm sure I read somewhere that flat coke is good for stomach bugs
when I was trying to prove DH wrong, but lemonade does sound better. Great news on the swimming course.
Cake It all went a bit weird here today, but hopefully normal service will be resumed tomorrow!
I let the DC stay up to watch Felix Baumgartner jump through space or whatever it was he was going to do (I was a bit confused by the balloons and what exactly they were doing there) - and then an hour after their
theoretical normal bedtime, it was announced that he wasn't going to jump after all. I've given up on the idea of an early night for myself too, but will just have to make sure it's not a very late one; I always potter around unproductively when DH is away, so I have to tempt myself to bed with a good book.
Bienchen intensive swimming courses are definitely the way to get a child swimming in my opinion - my older 2 have both done them, though the 2nd isn't quite there (he can only swim in a pool with the right kind of edge
BRAT diet works for my kids when they have tummy bugs - bananas, rice (plain or plain rice cakes) Applesauce/ stewed apple and toast (dry) with plain water.
Flat coke is for dehydration rather than specifically to treat a tummy bug I think - from my year backpacking in Asia almost 20 years ago something about electrolytes rings a vague bell, and if you've not kept anything down for days the sugar is no bad thing (I have vague misty memories of a Malay lady on a coach feeding me flat coke and putting very strong smelling salts under my nose when I had dengue fever, and one or the other perked me up enough to find my way off the coach and to a youth hostel...) Normal mild tummy bugs maybe don't require huge quantities of sugar though Don't rehydration sachets contain both sugar and salts?
I got involved in a bun fight on AIBU once about this subject, so I did a lot of bilingual googling (and of course asked DH about it as well) .
When your body becomes dehydrated through illness, then you need to replace fluid and essential minerals (salt/electrolytes), hence the recommendation to add a pinch of salt to a cup of tea. The point of adding a spoonful of sugar as well is merely to make it taste better. Eating zwieback is another way to get salt, so drinking something salty is not essential - DH's view is you should drink anything you fancy as it makes it easier to drink more, and he agrees with English that the energy in sugary drinks is beneficial when you're otherwise not managing to eat.
After all that, I can't remember who is actually suffering with this tummy bug, but get well soon, whoever it is!
cheas It's so funny which subjects descend into bunfights sometimes on AIBU! Sometimes I type a post and then ask myself "hang on, do I really care?" and delete it
bienchen love that your DD walks along the bottom on the swimming pool! crafty girl
Ok so I think I have enough distance between myself and Sunday to report back on the craft fair/brunch now.....
...... disaster zone!
Well, the stalls looked amazing, the stallholders were lovely, DH worked his butt off to do a big brunch spread... and no-one came! We advertised widely... <sigh>
It was really disappointing. Funnily enough we were then rammed all late afternoon and evening. I just don't know what happened!
We're considering whether to continue offering brunch as it's probably one of those things that has to be regular so people know it's on.
Just to add to the list of remedies, in Dhaka I was told to eat papaya and drink coconut water. That's what dh's family offered as treatment.
Anyway, hope your ds is better soon ploom, you could try offering him a ripe papaya but they're probably hard to come by in rural Bavaria!
Dd has changed the birthday plan thank goodness. Now she's having all the girls at 16:30 for birthday cake and whatever then they will set the dvd stuff up at 8pm when the quiet girl has been picked up. Phew!
She's found one 'cocktail' involving ice cream and some fizzy drink that she says tastes great so they can make that too.
cakebump sorry the brunch didn't work out. Good news that you were busy later on though. Maybe it should have been an afternoon craft sale at Kaffee und Kuchen time.
I was told papaya too admylin in India. Also bananas, to bind you together...
Do you mean Coke Float? Glass of coke with icecream in the top? mmmmm delicious and nice with lemonade too
Yes, she wants to do it with different flavours of lemonade and possibly add whipped cream and silver coloured sprinkles! She is creative!
We wondered whether afternoon would have been better, but all the handwerkermärkte round here seem to be Sunday morning things.
Oh well, I'm proud of us for trying....
We had such a busy week last week, I worked 4 double shifts Tuesday to Friday, then 10:30pm to 1am Saturday night, then we got up again at 6am on Sunday to do the brunch and I finished at around 2pm. I think I was very overwrought by Sunday.
My PIL then landed on us at 2pm and decided to stay the night.... meaning that our only day off together for 6 weeks (the Monday) was spent entertaining them. I was so disappointed and done in I had half an hour in bed in tears (being 30 weeks pg doesn't help!).
Anyway it had the result that DH will FINALLY speak to them about the random turning up-and-staying-over and point out that sometimes it is rather inconvenient. Hurray!
Sounds like they'll be bouncing off the walls with the sugar overdose admylin!!
cake oh dear, hope your dh can make them understand. You must be exhausted with those working hours. I worked like that when I was younger and was totally exhausted on the day off. Did the PIL atleast look after you abit?
Seeing as the girls won't be going to sleep anytime before midnight it won't make much difference how much sugar they have! Dd has asked me to make a carrot cake as a birthday cake so that's healthy right?!
CakeBump How disappointing after all that hard work. Were the stall holders happy with how it went once it filled up?
You must of been so frustrated when your PIL turned up. Hopefully dh having a word will have the desired effect.
admylin How many are staying for the sleepover? Hopefully being teenagers they´ll sleep in on Saturday morning.
Ploom How is ds1 today? I hope the rest of you have managed to avoid catching whatever it is.
Bienchen I´m glad you found an intensive course. I know when dd and ds learnt to swim, once a week just wasn´t enough. They spent most of the lessons waiting for other children to have their go and got hardly any swimming time at all.
I´ve just received a pinata that I ordered for ds´s birthday. It´s much bigger than I expected so it´s probably going to cost a fortune to fill it.
Hello... well I have read over what was written while I've been absent and I'm a bit but well.... never mind...
I am flying off to England later! Hurrah!!!!! I can't wait to see my family and I still have no idea if there is anything special I want to do but mostly seeing them eating a few favourite foods and trying to relax. My sleep seems to be finally catching up with me and I'm feeling much better than I was at the weekend which is a big relief!
Ploom hope your DS is feeling better!
admylin good luck with party on Friday (teenage girls sleep over sounds perfect for a party and nightmare for parents... probably why I never had one )
Right, better get back to sorting stuff out.... Have a great weekend everyone!!
admylin it's odd with the PIL - as nutella can testify with hers (from the sounds of it!) they are lovely, lovely people, so helpful, really look after me etc etc.... so when they are here they are fine (apart from they bring their dog who NEVER STOPS BARKING grrrrrrrr).
It's just that they don't think - so they would turn up on our day off and not think for a minute that actually, we get no time together, our day off is really important, and due to various outside factors at the moment we haven't actually had a day to ourselves in 6 weeks.... my parents don't even Skype on a Monday because they know it's "our time".
Also, staying over is mega awkward when we have a one bedroom flat, but they haven't realised that this is my home too now and it's a bit of an invasion of privacy when they are on the sofabed and I can't even get a glass of water without confronting them in my pj's...
Like I say, they are lovely, they just haven't "adjusted" to the fact that DH and I are together and have our own life/way of doing things/privacy requirements now. I'm sure, actually, that they would be really shocked if they knew we felt this way and we definitely don't want to upset them.
re: the carrot cake, I suppose you could count it as one of your 5 a day... but my recipe has half a litre of veg oil in it so, ummm healthy it is not!
hupa unfortunately it got busy around 4pm (for dinner service), and the stalls were gone by 1pm. I felt really bad for them, but they were all really nice about it. We gave them free brötchen and tea/coffee.
It puts me off doing anything because I feel like the village really doesn't support us at the moment. They all like the fact that we are here, but if they don't come to these things we might not be here much longer!
Enjoy the UK nutella!
BTW I always type "nutelly" instead of "nutella" when I'm addressing you! No idea why!?
cake I do that lots too! I keep meaning to change my settings so I can't read anything other than "Living Overseas" and possibly the bilingualsm bit
but then I'd have to find another way to waste time.
Such a shame that the craft fair wasn't a success, and then to have your PIL turn up on your day off like that . I hope you'll be able to avoid overdoing things the next few weeks - I found being on my feet for long periods increasingly difficult at that stage of pregnancy.
admylin carrot cake definitely counts as healthy in my book! Coke float with whipped cream otoh would not be my cup of tea, but each to their own .
hupa I think some people add scrunched-up crépe paper to fill up a pinata, otherwise things like those Hanuta bars are fairly big without being heavy enough to cause injury when they fall out. I bought far too much to go in DD's pinata last birthday - they get heavy pretty fast when you start filling them!
bienchen well done on finding the swimming course. DD isn't quite old enough yet, but I know a couple of older kids who haven't been very happy at swimming lessons here, so I'm a bit gespannt as to how it will pan out when the time comes. An intensive course certainly sounds like a good idea from what people have said on here anyway.
nutella have a wonderful time in the UK!
cheas I posted on facebook that I'd done 4 double shifts, and my mum saw it and emailed DH to give him a bit of a telling off about letting me do too much!! .
I'm planning on slowing down at the end of the month, then stopping completely at the beginning of December. Its a bit needs-must at the moment, but I'm lucky that I feel up to it.
Oops almost forgot - Happy Birthday Linzer!!
Have a lovely day
Thanks Cake (and everyone who's posted on my FB)! Sorry the craft fair didn't work out; what a shame you didn't get more local support.
Have a great trip Nutella.
I've been lurking but don't have much time to post as I'm snowed under with work at the moment. Talking of which, must get back to it.
Linzer is obviously treating herself to a MN-free day for her birthday .
Please can I bounce another teaching idea off you all? I need a game idea to replace picture consequences (which the kids find very difficult to understand) when I teach body parts. I'm thinking of playing a version of pin the tail on the donkey using a big cardboard drawing of a figure - do you think that would be okay? I mean, blindfolding the kids and all! I'm not sure what exactly to use as a pin, though - any ideas?
X-posted, sorry. Shame you've got so much work to do today, Linzer. Hope you can declare Feierabend soon!
Ooooh before its too late- Happy Birthday Linzer!! Aren't you supposed to be out buying yourself a present as per your phone's instructions the other day?
Cake I've been called just nuts on another thread.... Think that was a name shortening ... What a pity the village didn't participate! Really sorry that you out in so much effort and it didn't work out .... Well hopefully future plans will be better!
And yes my PIL are lovely and very keen and most things they want come from the right place... but it is really hard to get them to understand we also want to do things our way. They are massively overexcited about their first grandchild and I know they can't wait to do lots of things with it but in reality some of what they want is still a few years off.... I won't be surprised if they start asking in May when they can take the bubba on holiday
Cheas I like the idea but I'm rubbish at coming up with my own ideas... Wish I could help
Right, I think I'm almost ready, need to pop out and do a few errands then I'm off!
Cake I think you're off to the UK this weekend too aren't you? Hope you have a good trip too!
<hides from a bunfight in AIBU>
cheas that sounds good to me - I'd use a laminated arrow on a bit of blutack maybe?
thanks Nutella, I leave on Friday
cakebum - I think I'm going to join your mum in giving you both a bit of a telling off - thats way too much to be working but I can understand it must be hard to step back when its your business. I worked full time right up till I was 37 weeks pregnant with dc1 and remember feeling ok but tired obviously. Gutted for you that no-one turned up for your craft fair - maybe the afternoon might work next time? And grrrr at your PIL - think your dh really needs to have a word.
linzer - happy birthday!!! Hope you didnt have to work too hard and get some cake later (and some sekt too of course!).
nutella - have a fab time in England - so . I wanna go [stomps feet like a 2 year old].
hupa - I've never seen those pinatas apart from in party pieces brochures - do you just have one and the dc take it in turns hitting it till it falls down?
admylin - dd was in a foul mood when she came home yest but I'll ask her about the cocktails tonight (if her mood is better!). I used to love a coke float when I was a teenager - that and spaghetti ice cream from the local italian cafe. Dont fance a coke float now tho.
Thanks for the dehydration tips cheas - think any risk of bunfights on this thread is gone now . He had 4 or 5 episodes of diarrhoea yesterday and another one this morning so not out the woods yet. But still no other signs of being ill - very strange.
bienchen - I had the same problems with dd and swimming when she was about 6. We also ended up going to a pool where she couldnt put her feet down and it was the best way for her to learn to swim. I see that also in my boys - ds2 swims way better than ds1 as ds2 cant stand in any pool so he has to swim whereas ds1 can swim but doesnt if he can walk about the pool. Also agree that an intensive course is a good way to learn.
Doubt I'm going to get a good sleep tonight - dh has a 24 hour blood pressure monitor on today - it measures it every 15 mins . Think I might be sending him to the guest room to sleep!
Ploom I haven't seen my bum in a while, admittedly (hard to turn around) but does it look like a cakebum?
. Note to self - check posts before posting!! (I still have a cakebum all these years later!)
Linzer Happy Birthday. Have you got anything exciting planned for this evening?
cheas Thanks for the pinata filling tips.
I was going to suggest blu tac, but see Cake got there before me.
ploom I´ve never had a pinata before, but the idea is that each child is blindfolded and then has a go at hitting the pinata until the sweets fall out. At least that was what ds said happened at the party he went to.
Cake and Nutella Have a great time in England.
We´re off to Turkey for a week on Friday. I´m really looking forward to it, but I´m half wishing we´d planned to go to London instead.
at cakebum! Talking of cake, I've just sent DD1 to the baker's to buy some as I've invited our neighbour and her DC over for coffee; I'd been planning to bake one this morning, but that was before I realised that I'd have to work.
Ploom The spare room sounds like a good idea if you want to get any sleep! (I wish we had one.) Am keeping my fingers crossed that DH will get back in time for us to have Sekt; I'd feel rather sad opening a bottle on my own (could always invite the neighbour back over, I suppose!).
cheas I was also going to suggest blu-tack rather than a pin; the game sounds like a good idea otherwise. I used to spend ages looking for different games to play when I was teaching English, and have lists and lists of them somewhere; I only ever used a couple, I think.
Nutella It's lovely that your ILs are so excited about the baby, although I can understand it must get a bit much at times. My ILs had already spent years looking after SIL's children by the time ours arrived, so I think the novelty had worn off a bit by then! My PIL have always been good with the children, although SIL and her family like to dispense
rather patronising useful advice.
Anyway, must get back to work while I have the chance; DS is out at a friend's and DD2 has two friends over, so the girls are all playing together. It's actually quite easy to get work done when just the DDs are here, particularly when they're doing their homework; it gives me hope for a few years' time! Having to end my working day at around 11.45 am isn't ideal.
Thanks, hupa. I haven't got much more than a glass of Sekt planned for this evening but am planning to go out for a meal with a couple of friends on Saturday to celebrate.
Hope you have a great time in Turkey; at least the weather should be a bit warmer than it is here (it's freezing here today). We're going to London for a few days in December and the children (and I!) are already quite excited.
cheas when I did body parts at the Aktivschule I did a version of happy families (card game). Drew a simple body, labelled 6 parts (head, body, arm, leg, hand, foot I think) on the reference one which was left in the middle the first time we played, photocopied it 6 times, stuck the copies onto 6 different colours of card (black, white plus primary colours) and cut it into 6 equal sizes cards (obviously you bare in mind the plan to make cards when you draw the pic). Then the kids sit in a circle, you mix the cards up and deal them out so each child has a mixture of coloured backs and ask each other "Have you got the red foot" or "have you got the blue body" or whatever, the object being to be the first to collect a whole body in one colour, kind of like happy families. I taught children who had no previous English and only saw them one day a week and never ever spoke German to them, but it was quite easy to explain by showing - I hope the explaination here makes as much sense! It worked well with 6-10 year olds, and obviously revises colours as well as body parts.
Linzer Happy birthday! Hope you get the work done quicker than expected and get a free evening!
cake what a shame about the craft fair, that must be so disheartening
Nutella your in-laws sound infuriating even though well meaning - I hope your DH can set them straight without upsetting them.
Ploom guest room sounds a good idea! Hope your DH is OK?
ploom dh had one of those 24 hour monitors once and it wasn't too bad, infact it was a lot quieter than his snoring so I didn't even notice it!
Everyone off on holidays - have a great time.
cheas you can also do body parts bingo - make lots of pictures of body parts, stick on card, make pre-made bingo grids with the same pictures on in different combinations, each child has a grid and some counters and you have a box with all the body parts cards in. Pull out cards at random and shout out the name of the body part, showing the cards at the same time the first time you play it, then keeping the pics to yourself later times when the kids get better at matching what you shout to their pics. Obviously first to make line wins. Easier for the kids as they don't have to speak or make sentences or know colours, they just have to understand the word and find the matching picture.
I like thinking up games for teaching and making the resources, but it takes much too long and is not toddler-at-home-awake compatible!
English / cheas Bingo is great; the children I taught always used to love playing it. This site is good for bingo cards, although I've just checked and they don't have a "premade" set for body parts. They do have a bingo generator, however, and it looks fairly easy to make your own sets.
I've already had my Sekt. The neighbour didn't realise it was my birthday and said she'd have brought Prosecco if she'd known, but luckily I managed to find a small bottle hidden at the back of the fridge.
Great minds, linzer - I already use that site (and the bingo generator) for all my flashcards.
English happy families is a great idea, but I don't think it will work with my predominantly age 4yos, since getting them to repeat a whole sentence in English is quite a struggle. I'm currently doing family members with the older group, though, and it would make a nice change from bingo (though I agree that goes down well).
I assume the other kids can see the coloured backs, but not what picture is on the cards? Do I need as many complete sets as children in the group? Presumably the kids take turns round the group, but can ask any other child for a card when it's their turn?
Thanks everyone for recommending blu-tack. At least my parents are coming next week, the last time I looked for it here I found it very difficult to source (was about 10 years ago though). I still can't decide whether it would be better to make eyes, nose, mouth, ears, hands and feet for the kids to stick on, or an arrow. It would be fun for the kids to try to identify the shapes while blindfolded, but it wouldn't let me practise shoulders, knees, fingers, toes with them. Otoh, I will be doing "head, shoulders, knees and toes" with them, so maybe it won't matter.
cheas There's a white equivalent to blu-tack made by UHU, called patafix. I'm pretty sure someone mentioned it on the thread when we had a blu-tack discussion a while back, so it should be available in Germany. I've seen it at the stationery store here but have never bought any, so am not sure how it compares with blu-tack.
Have just finished the third of my four texts, but the fourth is twice as long as the others so it will probably take me all of tomorrow morning. The only problem is that the RE teacher is ill (I've lost count of the times the old one was off sick last year and hoped the new one would be a bit healthier, but maybe not) so DS will be home after the third hour tomorrow - which really isn't going to give me long enough. Looks like I'll be working rather than sipping Sekt this evening; am glad I managed to fit in that glass this afternoon!
cheas yes they can see the backs but that's Ok as they all think they're dead clever for noticing that "cheat" ;) Also it makes playing the game a little easier so they can concentrate on the language and it doesn't go on and on for ever.
Yes one set/ colour per child playing (I used to "offer" the activity as available to 6 children in the children's free choice session, which is why I have 6 stuck in my head), but of course you can make 2 sets of cards and have 2 games going at once if you have a larger group of older children who are sensible enough to play it without you micromanaging every second - I actually did the game with my beginner adults 2 years ago and just had 3 games going, but of course you don't have discipline issues with adults (usually )
The first child can pick any child in the group and ask them "do you have the "red" foot" or whatever, if the child does then they hand the first child the card and are given any other card in return, then the second child (going clockwise around the circle) can pick any child to do the same thing, it just keeps going around the circle til somebody wins, and every child should have 6 cards all the time.
Oops I bought some of that fake white blue tac in Lidl today, it's in squares but the same thing, works the same
at having to work this eve Linzer! Are Ethik teachers any healthier, maybe he could have an anti-conversion over night?
Patafix definitely available in Germany! I'm a big fan!
Its just like blutack, but white.
Ethik doesn't seem to exist as a subject here English, otherwise I'd be tempted (providing the teachers were healthy ). I decided to bring the children up as Catholic as it's the best option for ensuring they stay at school for the maximum number of hours. If DS was in the evangelisch minority, he'd only have one hour of RE a week and if he was ohne Bekenntnis, he'd be out of school at 10-something twice a week. So he's staying Catholic for the time being!
Been reading through the thread and feeling a little home sick. I am British but lived in Hamburg for 13 years. My eldest daughter now lives in Berlin. I used to love Laternelaufen! Also love Christmas markets.
Wow is that right Linzer?
I have been absolutely amazed at the importance still placed on religion in Germany, I had no idea before I arrived - although I am in a catholic state so possibly that makes a difference.
My PIL frequently discuss religion as an over-the-dinner-table subject (MIL evangelische, FIL excommuniziert). I was brought up Catholic although with very lax parents so I can hold my own... but when PIL ask (for example) what my parents think of religion, they are amazed that generally in the UK I would say I never discuss religion - it is simply irrelevant to most/all of my friends and family.
As for church tax....
Hi Flippity. I almost went to Hamburg as an au pair, but ended up going to Berlin instead - it seems like a really nice city from my few visits there.
I'm a bit about church tax, Cake. As a non-Catholic, I don't have to pay it here but have the feeling I did so in Germany.
What I find a little strange is how important the church is in everyday life, while at the same time most people I know don't seem particularly religious. Crucifixes in bedrooms (when people aren't devout Catholics) are just one example - both my PIL and SIL have crucifixes hanging above their beds, yet never go to church or talk about religion. Having said that, far more people - and far more young families - go to church here than in the UK.
I like all the bank holidays, though.
Hello - you all have been chatty today! Sorry about the craft fair, cakebump. It's awful when you're not supported. Sorry about the ILs too!
Hello flippityjig - I live in America but am a German teacher and lived in Dresden and Munich many, many moons ago!
Have a lovely holiday in Turkey hupa and everyone else who is going away - (sorry for forgetting names, ds2 not being MN friendly at the moment!)
Glad you are having a good birthday Linzer, even if you are working at the moment.
Better dash and rescue the tomatoes again! Bye for now.
Sorry flippity how rude of me not to say hi . One more month to Christmas market season!! I can't wait
Linzer agreed about the bank holidays
Here in the Eifel everyone has a set of letters and numbers chalked on their door, which is something to do with Epiphany I think. The village is dead on a Sunday morning as everyone is in church, and the older people even consult faith healers regularly for illness, rather than the doctor. I find it all a bit strange....
I went to Hamburg as an aupair and stayed because I loved it there. Only left when I got divorced because I didn't feel I could support myself financially there. I miss so many things about Germany.
Hope the tomatoes are surviving, jenny! They seem to be particularly interesting to small boys for some reason; when the DC were younger, I had to take all the tomatoes off the vegetable rack when we had boys visiting as 50% of them would pick one up and take a bite out of it.
Cake We have those numbers written on the doors too; Sternsinger come round at Epiphany and then write C+M+B (Christ bless this house in Latin) and the year on the door. I think they're supposed to write in chalk but it won't work on our door, so they use felt tip instead!
Flippity Do you get back to Germany much?
Thanks for all the positive feedback about the intensive swimming course. I hope DD will make swift progress
and stop her cheating.
Ploom DS still not on the mend? Hope you get some sleep with DHs monitoring underway.
Linzer Happy Birthday and boo hiss to having to work in the evening
cakebum(p) The typo made me snort... sorry about the craft fairs slow start. It sounds like a lot of effort to organise especially if you are offering food as well. With working as well (and nights, too) you must be pooped. If it is a regular thing could you get people who attend to take leaflets away to advertise the next event? You have my sympathies, too re the ILs, I hope they will be competent babysitters once baby is there? We have no family here at all and it is one thing that I miss but I totally get how annoying family can be when they get in the way, offer unwanted advice, etc. But is sounds like you know well to take the rough with the smooth.
admylin love the idea that DD can do most of the entertaining for the party herself.
hupa am I the only one to not know what a pinata is. Holiday to Turkey sounds good to me, I have 24 hours of rain and hence no work to look forward to.
Nutella/cakebump safe journey. I know you feel very precious about the baby but believe me the time will come when you are so ready to hand baby over for an evening or day or two...
Re the discussion about religion and RE in school... church tax does not kick on until you earn a certain amount and you can opt out of paying (unless things have changed). Personally I find the churches (independent of whether they are catholic or protestant) run a lot of the services. Many Kigas/Kitas are run by them, and they offer very affordable holiday childcare, so I feel quite positive about supporting them. I remember RE as quite low key in Grundschule and once you got to secondary education there was the option of Ethik. There is no equivalent of assembly as far as I remember which some schools in the UK have on a daily basis. Cant speak for Austria thoug.
Waving to everybody else!
Cake the procession is indeed on Epiphany and is a blessing for the house and its inhabitants. The letters are CMB (for Caspar, Melchior and Balthasar; the three wise men or Magi I think they are refered to in the UK) and numbers are the year the blessing is carried out in. They are linked by crosses. Not sure about the faith healing thing, never came across that in the Bavarian village I grew up in.
Unfortunately I don't get to Germany very often. Last time was about 4 years ago. I would love togo more often but financially it's out of the question.
Hope to visit my daughter in Berlin some time soon though.
Bien there may be no assembly here, but in Bavaria at any rate the Grundschule classes start the day by saying a prayer together in the classroom. Our Kindergarten is state, not church, but they teach Christian stories as "true" (my biggest bug bear) and are always taking the kids to church and offer no balance - no stories from other religions or really mention of other religions or other people having different beliefs at all, (UK preschools celebrate Diwali etc as well as Christmas for example). I really dislike this to be honest as I am consciously not religious (I spent a lot of my teenage years fighting with my parents about my right not to believe what they do and they didn't speak to me for weeks when I stopped going up for communion) but I accept it is part and parcel of living here, and you have to lump it if you choose to move here. We opted out of church tax and I teach my children the "some people believe" and try to give them a bit of balance, but although DD easily got her head around the idea that religious stories are not necessarily true and the whole "X believes that but Mummy and Daddy don't, we just don't know who is right and you can make your own mind up" DS1 is much more literal and seems to go into meltdown at the same concept, he just can't understand that KiGa might be telling him things that are not lies but that are just what some people believe and not necessarily true either, and I really wish he could be in a more balanced environment, given we did not put him in a church KiGa but a state one, and we don't use any church subsidised chilldcare etc.
Ah well, it's just one of the things that comes with the package of moving to Bavaria I know.
Waves at everyone else!
* I mean Flippityjig sorry!
(which reminds Haha at the cakebum typo )
Oh Bien a piniata is a hollow paper mache container (usually in the shape of something like an animal or cartoon character or something) which you fill with sweets and hang from a door frame, and children at a birthday party break it open (traditionally by hitting it with a stick but these days you can also get ones where you pull a string) and all the sweets rain down. Mexican originally I think but I remember one at a birthday party I went to as a child in the early 80s in the UK so they crossed into other cultures a long time ago I think.
Morning! Just a quick post before I start work; I managed to get quite a lot done last night - despite the Internet going all temperamental on me yet again (DH phoned it up and sorted it out, thankfully) - so should be able to get it all sent off before DS is out of school in less than two hours.
Bienchen We have one ökumenischer Kindergarten in our town, but otherwise the church doesn't seem to do a great deal (no holiday childcare, for example); there are plenty of other organizations I'd rather give my money to! If you leave the church, you wouldn't be allowed to get married in it/have your children christened/be a godparent, etc., which is fair enough really, but you're opting out of the church as a whole rather than just paying church tax (not sure exactly how it is in Germany).
I don't think piñatas have made it to Austria yet; I've never heard them mentioned here, let alone seen one at a party.
Have just come back from Hofer as they have children's winter boots for sale this week, and it was madness! It took several minutes before I could even squeeze in to start looking for the sizes I needed. Am very glad I went this morning; I wasn't sure I could afford the time, but I doubt there'll be many left this afternoon.
A friend posted this article about atheism in eastern Germany on my FB page recently. It says that they did a survey and couldn't find a single person under 28 who believed in God. That's not really been my experience here - dnephew would be my first example to the contrary - but then a fair proportion of my playing work involves accompanying church choirs. I have noticed that whereas in the UK I generally found that higher intelligence/level of education almost always correlated with a lack of religious belief, that doesn't seem to hold true here. Of course that may well say more about British culture than (East) German, or possibly about my own preoccupations at different stages of my life .
Thanks for the blu-tack tips, everyone. English, do you think happy families would be impossible with more than 6 players - I have 11 in the group, although it's rare that they all turn up. Previous experience has shown that playing games in small groups is very difficult, although it depends on the game, of course.
Hi, flippety, welcome to the thread!
cheas I´d imagine it might be quite hard for 4 year olds to play separate games, but I´ve never actually tried. I think with older children it would work quite well.
Like English I find it really disappointing that religion here doesn´t cover other religions. We´ve also gone down the route of some people believe this, but we don´t. The Grundschule here seems to have real trouble finding teachers for religion. At the moment the catholic and evangelische children are all taught together. The catholic children in dd´s class are just starting their preparation for communion, but seem more interested in how much money they are going to get rather than focusing on the religious aspects of it all.
Bienchen This is the first party where we´ll have a pinata. I´m just hope it takes quite a long time to smash because it was quite expensive if it only lasts a couple of minutes. Of course, if i was more creative and organised, i could have mad my own.
Hi Flippity. Was your dd born in Germany? We´ve got friends in Hamburg, althoguh don´t get to visit them nearly enough.
Work has finally been sent off and I've had some positive feedback from it, which is always nice, so I can relax at last!
hupa I was at how much money DD2 was given for her first communion; 100 from her godmother (who's not particularly well off), for example. My SIL is DD1's godmother and I think she only gave her a photo album, although she has far more money
thanks to never having had to pay rent, buy a house, pay for all her childcare, etc.
cheas Interesting about higher levels of education equating to lack of religious belief; I've never really found that, although the sample of people attending my parents' church probably isn't representative (and very few of them are under 60!). Of the friends of mine who are religious, one has a PhD and the other an MA; OTOH most of my friends have been to university, so I don't exactly know a representative sample either!
Forgot to mention yesterday that when the neighbours came over, I went out into the kitchen to get the cake and when I went back into the living room, DD1 was in the middle of telling them that my nickname is LinzerTorte! My neighbour was looking a bit ; thank goodness she's unlikely to have heard on MN (not that she'd be very interested in my wafflings, I'm sure!).
We've been lucky and always had an option to either have ethiks or opt out and come home early (primary) and now at secondary my dc have done some interesting stuff in ethiks about religions including visiting a nearby sikh temple.
Ds has just started reading my God Delusion book and he has had some heated discussions in ethiks as most of the non christian (from other religions) dc are in ethiks too not just the atheists.
hupa hope the pinata lasts a while and nothing else gets bashed when they're hitting it!
Well done on getting the boots linzer. Did you get pushed and shoved or was everyone civilized?! I've seen pushing and shoving when they have snow suits.
Hi flippity is your dd studying in Berlin? We used to live in Berlin and wouldn't mind going back although prices are getting higher and higher so I doubt we'd be able to afford to live in Mitte where we used to live.
ploom how did you sleep with the monitor on dh? Is your dh stressed? My dh had it when he was all worked up and stressed about an up coming conference and then he thought he'd had a stroke so they ran aload of test.
Dd goes to the kieferorthopäde this afternoon. He's putting some sort of elastics on to separate her teeth in preparation for her brace being fitted. I'm not sure I have understood the whole treatment plan but somehow get the feeling the parents aren't expected to turn up or ask questions at these appointments.
Oh dear linzer maybe you should name change just in case? How about Marillenknödel?
hupa I made my own piñata because the ones available commercially all had online reviews saying that they were very difficult to break, so you should be all right on that front! I ended up tearing a little hole in mine with my finger once it had developed a weak spot to help it on its way, but DD only had 2 and 3 yos at her party, so they weren't really strong enough (or coordinated enough) to whack it properly. I can't remember how old your ds is? I woud recommend putting on some loud party music (or possibly counting and clapping) while the kids are whacking - my Peruvian friend sang a traditional piñata bashing song at DD"s party - it gets a bit boring if they're whacking for too long without anything obviously happening.
I hope I didn't offend anyone with my previous post. <seem to be doing my best to portray myself as belligerent atm on here!> I certainly doubt whether I would have come to the independent conclusion that God doesn't exist had I been brought up with a religious belief.
Feeling very nostalgic reading this thread, moved back to the UK last summer after 9 years away, 3 of them in Berlin. Had a great time! Especailly loved the run up to Christmas, starting with St Martin's lantern walks in November, and the Bratwurst and all that Glühwein...sigh.
That made me LOL, admylin! I think she might have picked up on my embarrassment and quick change of subject as her face changed from to , but she probably just thought it's a secret nickname DH has for me! I'm pretty sure I've never posted anything I would mind her reading, though; the only people I really wouldn't want to find me on here are my ILs (or my family, for that matter).
Everyone was quite civilised this morning, actually; two people smiled at me and a couple of people even asked others what sizes they were looking for.
Hope the appointment goes OK this afternoon. I still haven't got round to making an appointment for DD1's check-up at the orthodontist's, which was due in July IIRC, but I'm giving myself a couple of weeks off after making the appointment with the dermatologist (which I'd been putting off for about a month).
cheas You certainly didn't offend me; I hope it didn't come across that way. My parents have always gone to church (which I was highly embarrassed about when I was younger, as I didn't know anyone else who did) but I'm more of an agnostic now. We go to the Familienmesse most months, but it reminds me of having to go to church when I was little so I can't get very enthusiastic about it - although I do enjoy the coffee, cake and gossip at the Pfarrcafé afterwards.
Hi Charlotte; were you in Germany for the whole nine years that you lived abroad?
No, I tell a lie. I don't actually enjoy the coffee at all. It's far too strong and only ever lukewarm, and tastes particularly bad when the men (Männer something or other; can't remember what they call themselves) make it.
Linzer when I was 16 or 17 The Guardian reprinted an article from the New Scientist about the inverse correlation between intelligence and religious belef, which may well have primed me to see the same in my own circle of acquaintances. Certainly within my ridiculously small sample of close friends on my university course, the four who got firsts were atheists, whereas the two Christians got a 2:1 and a 2:2 respectively (I realise that's about as convincing as the evidence supporting homeopathy )
Anyway, I don't nean that I think all atheists are brighter than all believers, just that if I've pigeonholed someone as highly intelligent, then it tends to surprise me if they turn out to believe in God (and, of course, that does happen!)
Linzer No, it was an x-post. I'd been thinking about it after posting and got worried since there are newer posters on this thread who don't know me that well - I get the feeling that we are on a very similar wavelength most of the time and so hoped you would understand the post as I meant it!
That's a relief, cheas - I was worrying I might have written something defensive that made you think you'd offended me! I knew exactly what you meant anyway, but don't think I know enough practising Christians to generalise; there was only one on my course at university and she got a 2:1 IIRC. I think I'm just generally quite surprised if someone turns out to be a churchgoer full stop as they always used to seem very few and far between in the UK. Catholicism also has - completely irrationally - negative connotations for me as I was horribly bullied by a girl who went to a Catholic school.
At any rate, I'm not a huge fan of the Catholic church here and think it gets far too much money (I want to shout at all those people throwing bank notes into the collection that there's no need; they get plenty in the way of church tax already!).
Wow, this thread moves quickly - haven't managed to read all of it yet.
My two older children were born in Germany and have a German father, they speak both languages fluently. My daughter is 24 and currently out of work, she wants to study but has struggled to get permission so far. She took A levels in the UK and they are not recognising them in Germany so she may have to repeat two or three years of Abitur before she can study. However she's had a tough time healthwise recently and is now out of work (was working as a waitress but lost her job due to illness). She wanted to study to be a nurse but I can tell she is having doubts, so she is getting as much advice as she can at present.
My son who is 21 finished college here in the UK this year and is now working at Aldi, he's been there a year and has just been promoted to Deputy Store Manager. He studied sport with a view to becoming a PE teacher in primary school but at the moment is happy with his promotion.
It's great to read what you are all up to. Sorry I'm struggling to remember names at present but I'll catch up eventually. I've been reading the thread on my phone so far but today I'm working again (been ill for a few days, my youngest too) and am viewing this on a computer which makes it easier.
Hmm, I agree with you about churchgoers in the UK seeming to be uncommon, but otoh when I randomly tally up my circle of good friends, a significant proportion are religious, in a going-to-bible-study classes/possessing-of-bookcases-devoted-to-religious-texts way. Oh no, I'm disproving my own theory, aren't I? All my friends went to university, therefore the proportion of religious belief among graduates is higher than in the general population .
Hello, Charlotte, seem to have missed your post there!
flippety How annoying that they won't recognise your dd's A levels. I initially applied for a postgrad course here, only to be told that they didn't accept a Bachelor as the equivalent of the German Diplom, but I assumed that was mainly down to the number of Regelsemester, which wouldn't apply to A levels.
Would the two of you like to take part in my extremely well-designed and completely unbiased survey? Are you religious, and if so, did you get a 2:1 at university (if you went, of course)?
cheas I'm not religious and I didn't get a 2:1, so does that help to confirm your theory? I would recommend that, for research purposes, you make some friends who didn't actually go to university. If 99% of them (you need to get to know at least 100) are churchgoers, then your initial theory isn't disproved after all.
And why are people in the UK who go to church (of around my age) the bible study/Christian bookshop type, whereas Austrian churchgoers are much better at hiding their beliefs? (I would suggest a separate study to examine this question.)
<hopes she isn't putting off new posters>
Flippity How frustrating for your DD that her A levels aren't recognised. A friend of mine is a qualified librarian but she wasn't able to work in Germany as they wouldn't recognise her qualifications. It's very annoying when you've spent years studying and it almost feels like it's been in vain.
Ooh, I have an acquaintance here who didn't go to university. I don't know whether she believes in God, but she recently liked a post on fb in which someone suggested the long-term unemployed should have their benefits removed and be left to starve to death. I could extrapolate all sorts of prejudiced judgmental assumptions based on that, couldn't I?
Take your point about the formulation of my survey question: it should read "are you religious and, if so, did you get a 2:1 or lower?"
(That thought had also crossed my mind, especially as I misspelt flippity in my last post .)
cheaspicks, no, sorry, not religious and didn't go to uni!
btw I don't mind how you spell my name, I know who you mean.
Hmmm 2 people on my uni course got firsts (big course - English lit, about 300 people) strangely we both lived on the same corridor in our 3rd year One was me - I'm agnostic in the "there is no way of ever knowing if there is any form of god type being, but I highly doubt it" sense, and the other one was very active in the Christian Union with very strongly held beliefs... Not sure what that means I was only actually friends with one Christian on my course at uni, and she got a 2:2, none of my other uni friends were religious at all. My parents are very religious (church wardens, dad's a lay preacher etc.) and they are both medical doctors (which I often wonder how they reconcile, but neither will talk about religion in an analytical way, if I ever tried as a teen my dad would growl "don't show your ignorance" and my mum would either cry, or say I'd understand when I was older, or if she was feeling light hearted brush any questioning off as a "little rebellion" ...
cheas, not religious, got a 2:1... does that help?
We have roadworks RIGHT outside the restaurant today! Health and safety doesn't seem to exist in the village - they are ripping up the road surface, but passersby are dodging around the JCB, no-one has hard hats on and at the Eiscaffe they have ripped up the pavement right in front of the door but people are still going in! I have seen young children dodging swinging loads of bricks to get to the post box
Cake at the photos you posted on FB; can you imagine that happening in the UK?! Is it affecting your business much?
English That's very impressive; sounds like it must have been quite a difficult course. I think about 10% of the students on my course got a first.
cheas Are you still friends with your acquaintance?!?
english you're ruining my theory! A third of the people in my year got firsts and the most religious person barely scraped a third, so that makes my sample the most valid, doesn't it? <cherrypicks>
cake you neither prove nor disprove my theory .
flippity how about enrolling on an OU degree in statistics? I'll coach you through it - you're bound to get a first and then you'll back up my theory!
linzer I didn't defriend her if that's what you mean, but I haven't had any contact with her since. She works a horrific-sounding shift pattern as a meat packer, lives in a tower block on an estate and tries to do her best by her three-year-old son, so I can sort of see how she might feel resentful of her neighbours who don't work and don't seem to have to make the sacrifices she does .
Yes, sorry cheas, I meant are you still FB friends with her. Given more background, you can easily see how someone can end up with those kinds of views.
I've done quite a few translations for the statistics office, so will have to check through all my old files to see whether there's any correlation between religious views and level of educational attainment. Actually, I can't remember having translated anything about religion at all - it seems to be more about cows and vine yard surveys. (space deliberate)
Actually the original article I base my prejudice on was pretty interesting. Iirc it said that only about 10% of scientists described themselves as believing in a personal god and that that dropped to 1% among Nobel prize winners. They rather lamely concluded that these results were likely to be replicated in most other fields - yes, because there's nothing about science to make it less popular to believers, is there ?
Hello everyone and hello Charlotte.
I am sort of between agnostic and a firm believer, but then I only got a 2:1 and Mum was a Sunday school teacher. But then I live in America and you only really fit in if you have a church family. They would be the ones who help you out in times of crisis, etc. Possibly going to church at Christmas time is not enough to count as being part of the family. Dh has a PhD in physics (only a 2:1 originally) and is definitely not a believer, though his parents are church wardens, on the PCC etc. Am I muddying your statistical waters cheas?
Sorry about the A Levels not being recognised. I am finding similar with my qualifications here as the school boards would have to prove that there is not an American who could do the job as well as me.
Glad the snowboots got sorted Linzer. Pinatas are all the rage here (no symbols on this computer) and you can get them in all sorts of shapes but I like the original donkey best. Hope it's fun!
A is off school today and tomorrow for teacher conferences and she has a friend over so better go and supervise. Hope you are all having a great evening and apols for missing anyone out.
Hi charlotte, welcome to the thread
Linzer it is difficult to tell, because Tuesday bizarrely was a really good day for us, but yesterday and today have been tote Hose, and given that it is school holidays plus sunny weather, I would say it must be the roadworks having an effect.
The road is completely ripped up now so even though you can squeeze through, it really is dangerous. I'm sure the only reason the Gemeinde haven't closed the road is because they would have to pay us compensation. I reckon we're losing about 150 a day at the moment!
Hi Charlotte, my daughter lives in Berlin. She loves it there. I have only been to Berlin once for a weekend trip but I loved it.
Morning. Busy day for me as although dd is doing most of the entertaining for her party tonight I have to fumigate her room and tidy the rest of the place up and bake and cook. Must also get rid of the embarassing amount of empty wine bottles that are in the kitchen!
cheas dh is atheist and got a 1 in all his many diplomas and his PhD. He was brought up in a country with enforced religion and obligatory holy book studies.
flippity and charlotte (hi!) and how did you find the move back to the UK after so many years away? I tried a couple of months of going back a few years ago but it wasn't how I thought it would be and things had changed so much that I felt foreign!
flippity did your dd look at the course they offer at Berlin university for foreign students? It's some sort of access course for people with exams that aren't recognised if I remember rightly.
cake hope the road works don't last too long. Have you spoken to the Gemeinde or whoever to ask how long it's going to take?
jenny is the election hype big around where you live? I saw that volunteers go door to door campaigning. I've never had a campaigner here or in the UK.
Well, better go and start my carrot cake!
Morning! It's another very cold day here, so I've just finished putting all my summer clothes away and hanging my winter clothes up in the wardrobe. I managed to warm myself up with a run, but unfortunately the effect seems to have worn off already.
cheas In the interests of balance DH is a scientist who believes in God and has always got good grades (he has a PhD too). (Your survey provides an ideal opportunity for stealth boasting, btw. )
Jenny Yes, the church seems to be a far more important part of the community in the USA than it does here, even. I don't have a tilde on my computer either btw, but copied and pasted as I'm a linguistic perfectionist. (Am bound to make lots of mistakes in my post now that I've written that!)
Cake That must be so frustrating for you; I hope things return to normal asap.
admylin Good luck with the baking and hope the party goes well!
cheas - I failed my final exams the first time in my honours degree so didnt get the honours bit but have subsequently got a Masters Degree and I am definitely agnostic. I had a quick squizz through my FB friends yesterday - out of 125, over 80 went to University and out of those 80 only 6 are religious and 4 of them in the serious go to church every sunday and do missionary work kind of way. Of the ones who didnt go to University, only 1 is deeply religious. But I am beyong confused after all that chat about it yesterday as to whether this fits into your "study" or not .
hupa ´have a fab time in Turkey - jealous of you getting some warm sun .
linzer - glad you had a good birthday afternoon with your neighbour. Hope you enjoy your night out tomorrow. I also got some snowboots for ds1 from Aldi yesterday. There wasnt much fighting about the kids stuff but they were next to the women's fleeces and there seemed to be a bit of a rammy going on there.
english - we also have the same Bavarian Grundschule problem with religion - there is no escaping the morning prayer or the option of Catholic or Evangalisch of which we are neither. But dd started her education in the Uk in a non denominational school and there was still a lot of religion (altho there was also the teaching of and respect for other religions which is definitely lacking here at Grundschule level). Thankfully dd can do Ethik at the Gymnasium which she really enjoys.
Welcome to flippity and charlotte. I'm trying not to think that the Christmas markets arent too far away since I havent even started thinking about Christmas shopping. Like to get ds1's birthday next week out of the way first.
Ds1 went back to school yesterday - he'd been 24 hours clear of diarrhoea and was absolutely fine so there was no need for him to stay at home. But you can imagine the fight yesterday morning cause staying at home seemed a much more fun idea . But I stood firm and packed him off to school.
Dh's BP monitor wasnt actually too loud as you said admylin and it only woke me a couple fo times. His BP was just a bit high when he went for his over 35 check up so he's to go back on Weds to see how it was over 24 hours.
But I'm glad he didnt have it monitoring yesterday evening - ds1 had a maths test and was marked down for having the right answer - twice . The question said do the sum and write your Lösungsweg. The sume was 9+4 so ds1 wrote 13 but the Lösunsweg didnt make any sense (he wrote 9+5-1) but rather than give him 1 point from 2 she gave him zero . The same on the next sum. But then further down the page the question said "Schreibe, wie du rechnest" and there was a little bubble with 9,3 and 9 in it. So ds1 wrote 9+3+9=21 and this was wrong. He should have written 9+9+3=21!! . In the previous 2 parts of the question there was the possibility to add the number up to 10 first (eg 8+2+4+3) but with 9,9 & 3 it doesnt matter how you get there. So dh ahs written her a note and attached it to the test. Am kind of dreading the reply.
Ploom that is beyond annoying about the way your SA's maths test was marked! Ridiculous! I keep reading examples of things like that on here, its as if the tests are marked by computer not a thinking human being, dreading our turn for something like that, but so far DD's teacher seems pretty reasonable and human, despite also being quite strict and old school!
Linzer do you know sometimes I feel the need to stealth boast to remember I once had a brain, as I feel completely useless and incompetent most of the time, what with the combination of baby brain, 3 small kids and ensuing chaos, sleep deprivation which has basically been ongoing for 7 years, and living in a country in which I am not fluent in the language and only get to make face to face conversation in my mother tongue with my own family most days/ weeks... I can hardly reconcile myself with the bright student I allegedly once was
This morning has been a catalogue of (very minor but slightly soul destroying) disasters, hoping the afternoon and weekend go better...
Ploom DD1 has had the same kind of problem in maths tests before; it's so frustrating, isn't it? Even though she's got part of the calculation right, because she started out with the wrong number she automatically loses all the points; the marking system just doesn't seem to make sense. Have you heard anything back from the teacher? Glad to hear that your DS is better, and well done for staying firm!
English Nothing wrong with a bit of boasting - stealth or otherwise - from time to time! (I hope you didn't think my comment was aimed at anyone on this thread; I was going to write more about DH's grades and then thought it would just end up looking like I was boasting, which is where my comment came from.) And there's no way you're either useless or incompetent; bringing up three children (with no time for yourself) is an achievement to start with, let alone in a foreign country or on the little amount of sleep you seem to get. It's only since DS started going to nursery and then KiGa in the mornings that I've started to feel a little more human but even now I still have days when it all feels relentless - I don't know how you've managed on so little sleep for so long. I also miss not having regular contact with native speakers, which is why
I spend far too much time on this thread this thread is a lifeline for me.
Having said that, if you start posting on Facebook that your DC have got lauter Einser and so you're obviously doing something right, I may feel inclined to kill you.
DD's only had one actual grade so far, the first piece of graded work was a Diktat last week - she got a 3 because she forgot to capitalise 5 nouns - so I'm not an Einser Mama or whatever the correct phrase was, I assume that means I can still post??
No, no, feel free to mention your DD's grades on here, English - it's just this posting to all and sundry on FB combined with the
smug assumption that your DC's grades are all down to you that annoys me immensely slightly. I've just googled Ein ser-Ma ma and, rather worryingly, my old post is on the first page of hits (of only two pages); it appears to be a made-up term. I'm consoling myself with the fact that the mother concerned is unlikely to be either on MN or googling the word.
Just a really quick update - no written reply from ds's teacher - when he gave her the note from dh she said to ds "Haben deine Eltern dich gelobt?" WTF has that got to do with whether she unfairly marked tests. Thankfully ds quite rightly said that we had praised him. Will be very glad when the 2nd class is over and he gets a new teacher.
Short post from phone here - have a rehearsal in an hour and am waiting to spot a fellow musician going into the building before I get out of the car.
I suspect my survey may be flawed, since it's not giving me the results I want .
English I know how you feel. I think I said to Linzer in a pm that I was rather excited by the prospect of studying and taking an exam in translation simply because it would mean exerting my brain a bit (apologies if I've repeated myself there).
ploom am speechless at that marking, plus I think writing 9+5-1=13 to explain how you worked out 9+4 shows a sense of humour!
linzer can't believe you cut and pasted ñ !
Had better go and see if I'm in the right place!
I am a lapsed poster from austria with 5 mins to herself before the weekend begins. But I miss the chat on here.
Typing Alt 164 will give you an "ñ". in case you need it for more piñata discussions. Loved them as a kid, though someone always got bashed with the broom stick.
have a good weekend all!
Ooh, that's clever platanos (good to see you back again btw!). I can never remember all the Alt key combinations, although I normally only use the German characters and they're on the keyboard anyway. I had to cut and paste an o with a line through it the other day, but can't remember why!
Flawed, cheas? Surely not. Hope the rehearsal goes well.
Have just dropped off DS at a friend's; it's only the second time he's wanted to go to a friend's house in a month or more and he almost changed his mind at the last minute, but I went in with him and had a coffee and he virtually pushed me out of the door afterwards! Now need to print out a Probeschulearbeit for DD1, who has her first Schularbeit (in maths) next week.
Only three hours till our Heurigenabend, but it's so cold outside that I'm really not looking forward to walking there. Maybe I could drive and not drink. (But probably not.)
Admylin, I think that's the course my daughter is looking at now. She has her German passport back so we're not sure how that will affect her taking the course. She'd prefer of course to have her British qualifications recognised and not waste more time retaking years of study and exams. Fingers crossed. First of all she goes to Kur at the end of this month, she needs to recover fully before doing anything I think - she is a frail creature, has been since having whooping cough at the age of four, and gets everything going and takes ages to recover. This time it was quite a personal problem but she is becoming withdrawn and I am worried about her and hope the Kur will do her some good.
Oh flippity that must be really worrying especially when it's not so easy or affordable to just go and visit when you feel like it.
Hope the Kur helps and the course works out. Dh had a similar problem when he applied to study here in Germany. He was told his German wasn't good enough but the course to prove it was for foreign students and he'd just got his German passport! That was down in south Germany though and over 12 years ago so I'd hope Berlin would be abit less bureaucratic.
Hi platanos where have you been?!
Linzer how did the evening go? Did you try the wine?
ploom well done for sending in the note. Wonder if the teacher was just too embarrassed to answer!
Dd's party was the best and easiest birthday I've ever hosted! They just got on with it and entertained themselves. Apart from getting the food ready and providing the cocktail stuff I didn't have to do anything! Must say, I did have zombies sitting at the breakfast table which was worrying but they perked up after an hour and are now in the city shopping!
Admylin, it is really worrying. Luckily she has just been to visit for my parents wedding anniversary. I do think she'll be better looked after with the German health system than here in the uk.
As she spent the first 12 years of her life in Germany and frequently visited afterwards, her German is fluent, as if it was her first language - which it was for the first 12 years of her life. The only thing standing in her way is getting them to recognise her British qualifications.
How old are your children? Was the party a sleepover?
It's a beautiful day here in the uk, sunny but very cold.
Yes you could be right there, atleast waiting times are alot shorter over here so it's quicker and easier to get seen by a specialist.
My dc are 14 and just turned 13. It was a very civilized sleepover. Dh and I went to bed at 11pm and didn't notice a thing although ds's bedroom adjoins dd's room so he told me it was like having a barn full of hens next door until the early hours!
It's lovely over here today too (Hanover) despite the weather forcasts saying it'd be wet and miserable until Tuesday!
Flippity Yes, I'm sure your DD is better off in the German healthcare system, but it must be hard when you're so far away from her.
admylin The party sounded really good, especially the bit about it being easy to host! I can't wait until parties start getting easier; I found the two we had in July really hard work.
The Heurigenabend went really well in the end, although I was surprised at how little wine was drunk considering how good and cheap it was (mine cost 1.20 a glass). I think everyone stuck to one glass of alcohol apart from one couple who pushed the boat out and daringly had a second (that may have been DH and me). But I couldn't believe it when the children came back in from running around outside, some of them quite wet, and said that one of the people next door had turned a hosepipe on them!
Linzer what??? Somebody turned a hosepipe on fairly young children playing outside in the grounds of a catering establishment (not trespassing on anyone's private property) in the evening of a chilly October day? Sorry to come over all British but is that not assault? Mild in the grand scheme of things granted but still, in the UK it would be, I know its different here and generally less OTT and precious is good, but that is not acceptable! Was anything done in terms of reporting the incident to anyone?
Hupa I think I have missed wishing you a lovely holiday
Admylin the sleep over birthday party sounds perfect - DD was sulking last night that she didn't get a sleep over for her birthday last month (she mentioned wanting one about 6 months ago, then said nothing more and she tried a climbing wall on holiday and got into it, so asked for and had a climbing wall party, then last night she went all woe is me about not having a sleep over I suspect a 7 and 8 year old sleep over party would not be anything like the civilized one you describe
cheas glad you know how I feel (sort of, not that I want you to feel your brain has moulded away!) I'm not even sure I could take exams again, I have possibly lost my short term memory...
That reminds me actually - this is a weird one and I am going to sound an idiot, but I am wondering whether this is a living overseas thing or just me, so here goes:
Does anyone else find they don't recognise people out of context when living abroad? This has been happening to me with worrying regularity, not with people I know very, very well, but for example there is a Kindergarten mum who is a friend of one of the mums I have known ages, and she has a son a bit older than my DC3 too, so sometimes I have chatted with her outside Kindergarten for 5 mins here and there, not only said the standard Hallo in passing on the way in... A couple of days ago I was in Lidl and the cashier was unexpectedly chatty and told me about her youngest being in Krippe, which I found odd but assumed was because I had my own small child with me... it wasn't until I said hello to her on the way into Kindergarten the next day that it hit me she was the cashier in Lidl She hadn't even struck me as familiar!!! This isn't a 1 off, it has happened to me in the last year or 2 with students I've taught at VHS and then unexpectedly met in town or in a supermarket etc. and mums who have greeted me by name and stopped to catch up, and I just haven't been able to place or even recognise and have worked out from bluffing through a conversation I must have known from toddlers groups with one of the older 2...
My only logical explanation is that living in a language I don't speak properly, even though on a day to day basis I function fine and understand 90% usually, and can make myself understood whatever I want to say, makes me feel a bit disconnected and I do sometimes feel I live in a bit of a fog, so perhaps this lack of real genuine connection is stopping people making a normal impression so I can remember then... Is this crazy? I don't remember having this problem in the UK. Alternatively I am just getting old or going nuts of course I just wondered if anyone else had experienced it? I know many of you speak German well enough to be mistaken for a local and I guess it wouldn't happen so much in that case, though maybe my connection of the two things is nonsensical?
On a less crazy "out there" note I wondered if anyone could explain to me about what an Over 35 check up is, whether it is a standard thing to have or only on private insurance (we have public) and which doctor you have it with? Hausartz?
I have never had a general check up (as opposed to a specific thing like a smear test or a pregnancy check up) in my entire life, and if my health insurance covers it I think maybe I should, as well as the mysterious cancer screening which my health insurance notified me to go for which I assume isn't just regular smear test (which is also overdue by German standards as my last was at my 6 weeks post DC3's birth check-up) , and the dentist, whom I haven't seen in 5 years... DH has some time off coming up when we were going to leave the kids with Oma and Opa and have a few days away, but we can't afford to do that now so I may as well make use of the time for an MOT
Flippity sorry forgot to say hope your DD feels better soon and can get things sorted with her qualifications and courses
Ploom what an odd teacher
English Oh, that happens to me all the time but I assumed it was me being scatterbrained rather than a general living abroad thing! We bumped into a woman and her DD on a day out a couple of weeks ago; she looked very familiar and I thought I probably knew her from seeing her at KiGa. She came over to speak to us and I introduced myself to her by name, but she only said her name to DH... it was only afterwards that I realised (actually, the DC told me) that I'd met her at a friend's house and had spent quite a while talking to her. She must have thought I'd completely forgotten who she was. Well, I had.
Re the health MOT, I'm not too sure about the specifics in Germany but over 18s are advised to have one every year here and, even though I go to a private doctor to have it done, my health insurance covers it (not very useful information for you, I know). I would certainly recommend having one if you don't have to pay, anyway.
I think everyone was quite shocked at the hosepipe incident and one or two of the parents were going to go out to see what was going on, but didn't in the end. The teacher was particularly surprised that DD1 was wet, as she's so quiet, but I doubt the hosepipe wielder was targeting specific children! It can only have been around 8.30-9pm on a Friday night, so I don't know how they'd cope on a warm summer evening when there would be lots of customers sitting outside until much later.
Hi, I just wanted to thank you for your (brief) advice about Frankfurt. I went to the palmengarten in the end. I met a very nice man on the way there, who happened to work there and who got me in free, showed me around for 2 hours and gave me some books to go home with!
So a good day was had. First time travelling alone in 20 years and this is what happens!
I did try and find a shopping street and ended up in the Taunus Strasse (red light street), and got seriously creeped out, too scared to turn off down a side street and walked right to the end and round the long way. The next street I went down there was a kind of shelter for junkies and lunatics, about 50 of them ranting about outside. Suddenly I felt at home again, although this was on a scale you would never see in London, it felt very extreme for Germany.
Just caught up with the thread after a week in Austria, albeit with a grumpy, teething baby. Steiermark was absolutely beautiful and as always we ate too much and drank too much.
Just a quick post as I'm still in the middle of the mountain of washing & need to get a few things done while DS naps.
Hope everyone is well!
antique glad you had a nice holiday.
achillea you seem to have experienced the best and worst of Germany all in one day! I generally feel somewhat safer in those creepy/scary situations here than in the UK, no idea why .
english I don't want to worry you ,but I've actually impressed myself recently by being able to place people out of context (parents of kids I teach, etc.). Do you look people in the eye when you talk to them? I realised through teaching English one-to-one that I was looking anywhere but directly at the student when I was speaking and made an concerted effort to change. I still don't know whether that was a British thing or just a habit caused by age/insecurity.
Anyway, if you're simultaneously watching to make sure your ds2 isn't climbing a tree or something, then you may just not be looking at the person you're talking to enough to learn their facial movements. Then if you see them wearing a uniform you don't have your normal clues (getting out of black VW, wearing a blue coat) to go on. I bet the sleep deprivation has something to do with it as well.
I'm not going to write that DD has started sleeping through reliably and until after I get up on some days because I may jinx it, but I put my recent interest in planning the future down to being well-rested again!
I stayed over at a friend's on Friday night and her 2 yo seemed totally content to play unsupervised in her playpen(!) with a selection of three toys for ages. I've come back determined to at least put most of DD's toys out of sight, but I'm finding it really hard to bring myself to actually take anything completely out of circulation. Please tell me DD is not going to grow up with an attention span of 30 seconds and/or give me some tips about what you do to limit the toy overload!
Good morning everyone <checks the time again to make sure it isn't actually after 12>....
Ploom I don't understand how the teacher can be so ridiculous as to insist that everyone only do the sums the way they think the sums should be done... neither could my mum been telling her about MN.
Linzer I find most of the ¨ø˚∆˙©∂ symbols on my keyboard by playing with it (just found a few extra ones ) I get so fed up using a german keyboard and constantly press the wrong letters and have to correct everything so I stick with my English QWERTY keyboard.
admylin I'm not at all surprised by your DS' comments! But he was lucky they sounded like hens and not chuckling hyenas or cackling witches
English I am rubbish at remembering who anyone is, I blame it on the level of concentration needed to process someone so their "details" stick in another language... it has taken me forever to remember who is who when DP is talking about his friends.
Antique Sounds like you had a nice holiday!
I had such a fantastic weekend! With my family it was really lovely. I didn't sleep very well but that made coming home to my man and my own bed soooo lovely, I slept really deep and long last night and slept in later than I have in ages! Such a relief to finally feel like I've had a decent nights sleep. I think when I wake up in the night I wake the baby (I occasionally sleep through but I can't remember the last time) I'm not convinced about the baby having a fixed routine in there... at least I really hope it isn't going to be awake from 3:30 ish every morning...
Antique Welcome back; glad you had a good holiday. Hope you made it to a Heuriger or two. (Actually, I think they might be called Buschenschänke in that part of the country.)
cheas I'm probably the last person to give advice about keeping toys to a minimum, as the DC have far too many (DS's bedroom is a breeding ground for soft toys, with which he is utterly obsessed). I try to declutter regularly, but usually without the DC's help as DD1 is an incredible hoarder and refuses to get rid of anything so it's a pointless exercise (I sometimes get DD2 to help me out, though). If I'm worried they might miss something, it goes in a box in the cellar and if they haven't missed it after a couple of weeks/months, then I get rid of it completely. (I think I probably started out trying to rotate toys, but then realised that no one missed what was in the cellar so I might as well get rid of it.)
Nutella Glad you had a good weekend! I always sleep better in my own bed too - plus I find the mattresses at my parents' house far too soft now (whereas they find ours too hard!).
I used to have an English laptop, but using key combinations for the German characters was so fiddly (plus they don't always show up correctly in e-mails etc) that I installed a German keyboard too and would switch between them. It worked quite well as long as I could remember where ß, ö, etc. were (actually, those were easy to remember; it was the characters above the numbers that I had problems with)!
Am feeling like a mean mummy today as I didn't let the DC stay up to watch Felix Baumgartner jump; I didn't actually say that they couldn't, but they were in bed and I didn't think to fetch them (plus I was also a bit worried that he might die mid-jump!). DD2 said three quarters of her class watched it, so I've promised we'll have a look for it on YouTube this afternoon.
Linzer I had a single at my little Bro's place (in Watford) because there was a chance it was slightly harder than than the other bed on offer - which my mum took- no idea if it was anymore comfy... Then we stayed at a B&B near my older brother's place (in Stratford on A) and the beds were crazy soft! It was lovely to have a proper sausage with breakfast But my bed at home is much firmer and I slept like a log last night.
It was so nice to see the whole family. Oldest bro and family were all in good spirits and we had a great time at their place playing a lot of UNO . My nephew (10) and niece (6) both predict a boy. Niece really wanted to feel the bean <very cute child> moving but it took a while before she sat still long enough to feel anything.
My little bro and his girlfriend (they've been together 11 years so we were winding them up about marriage and kids etc) wanted to feel the bump as much as DN! They both got to feel the baby move and DBro was also flying from the same airport as me for work (he managed to get them to sort it that way, which I thought was sweet) and felt a good kick while we were waiting for my plane.
Only problem was middle bro (he is a bit odd generally, and always brings a different girlfriend who never seem to be beyond the age of 19/20 ) he poked my bump really hard when we met him and it really hurt! If he wanted to feel the bump he could have asked and I wouldn't have minded but he just wanted to see how hard a pregnancy bump is wish I'd smacked him but was too busy saying ow!
Oops sorry that got a bit long! I'm supposed to be researching cots. BIL and SIL want to buy one for us... was going to get a basic 2nd hand IKEA one but now have the option of something a little fancier... but what?
Oh and Linzer I was worried we might watch him die live on telly too! I don't think the DC will mind watching it not live on youTube.
PIL offered to buy us this one. I refused, though, mostly down to the pg hormones, plus SIL said it was important to get a cot where you could take out a few bars to make a "schlupfloch" otherwise dd would climb over the side and fall onto her head . We never needed the schlupfloch in the end, but I suppose it's something to consider.
cheas I thought the same thing New IKEA. I sent DP a link to the Stokke thingy as a joke... he thinks asking them to buy the mini bit and then buying the extension pack ourselves next year is a really good idea...
my thinking is it also makes it easier to have the baby in the room with us and we can move it around more easily...
Nutella We had the DC in a bassinet in our room for the first 3-4 months and then moved them into a cot in their own room when they outgrew the bassinet (in DD1's case, it was more a question of trying anything to get her to sleep for more than an hour at a time). We did have one with bars that you could remove but never found that we needed them.
silken Your SIL should have followed my SIL's advice of only ever putting your DC to bed when they're tired, then they won't try to get out of the cot. (I'm assuming there was probably someone there looking over the baby when they woke up too. Actually, there probably was in SIL's case - they were always very suspicious of baby monitors and used MIL instead.)
Sorry cheas, still think of you as silken!
Good afternoon,hope you all are well.
My daughter went back to school this morning. I'm so relieved. Her temperature is back to normal and she's her usual chirpy self,although she's still not eating much.
It's a cold, wet day here in the UK. Thankfully I got my dog walk in this morning between showers, the woods were fairly muddy though. I sometimes go there with a friend and we walk our dogs together as I don't like going there on my own - my dog is only little and wouldn't be much use if there was a strange person wandering around!
I had all three children in my room at the side of my bed when they were tiny, up to about 4 months really. In Germany we used the family cradle which was lovely. Here in the UK we bought a moses basket and placed it inside the cot for cosiness.
We watched Felix Baumgartner live on tv (well, the website on the tv screen) with my daughter (11) but I was worried that he wouldn't make it and how that would affect her. I did feel that at her age they would be talking about it in school and it's a bit of history she should see. Not sure if I would have let a younger child watch though.
Nutella, crazy of your brother to poke your bump! How rude. Even as a man he should be able to work out that it might hurt.
Evening all. flippity I feel the same about the forest. We live right on the edge of a huge forest but I need someone to go in there with me otherwise I get spooked! Glad your dd is better.
nutella sounds like you had a great trip home. Tell all us UK shop deprived women what you bought then?! Did you get time for some last minute shopping? Can't help with the bed/cot as we co-slept for 4 years. I did have a cot with those removable bars in our room that dd used now and then . As soon as she could toddle she would climb out and wander round the flat in the early morning!
cheas the kindergarden ds went to did an experiment when he was there. They had loads of toys and they had started fighting over them so they took everything away except the wooden bricks and the box with crayons and a pile of paper. Didn't seem to bother the dc, the parents were more worried than anything else and the dc seemed happy.
antique hope you got the washing done, have you got a dryer? That's one thing I've never had but would love. Have you had anyone asking about your flat yet?
english I've never heard of the Over 35 check up but know that my Krankenkasse pays for a yearly health check up. Not that I've ever been, although I should as I'm well over 35 so if that's an age to start going then I'm well over due. Maybe we should keep nagging each other until we've been!
Getting abit fed up with the orthodontist. Last time he put 2 little elastic bands round 2 of dd's teeth then told her they are to prepare the spaces for the wires of her brace and that next time she would be getting it fitted. Well today was 'next time' and they only made a print thingy of her mouth and told her to come back in 2 weeks to get the elastics on again then she'd be getting her brace 4 days later. Now we have no idea what sort of brace or when it's really going to happen. All I know is the monthly instalments are being sent so we're paying for something, just not sure what.
dh is off this week which is just lovely but definitely limits my MN time!
Glad you had a fab time in the UK nutella but I agree its always fab to get back to your own bed.
And glad you had a good time in Austria antique - I love Austria - it is so beautiful.
english - dh just went to the Hausarzt for his over 35 check. They checked his BP and did some bloods to check his cholesterol etc. You can also have a mole check up too if you want. I also suffer with not always being able to place people when they're out of context but think thats partly cause I get about a bit with taking the dc to sport etc. I'm still puzzling as to how I know the woman in the sports shop but am too embarrassed to ask her.
admylin - stick with the KFO - they'll have a plan and it'll be so worth it in the end. I used to be fed up taking dd but the difference in her teeth make the endless waiting in the waiting room all worth while.
linzer - I didnt let my dc watch Felix jump either for the same reasons but showed them it on youtube over breakfast this morning. But then I read on a MN thread about it that it was time delayed in case anything untoward happened. Wasnt it amazing tho! The speed at which he was falling was scary to watch - cant imagine how he felt doing it. But what amazed me the most was how he casually landed as if he'd just done a regular skydive (that I could never even do!). Just amazing!
cheas - we also have way too many toys but have a clearout every so often (usually before Christmas!). But like linzer said its sometimes easier done without the dc helping otherwise nothing gets cleared out!
flippity - glad your dd's feeling better .
platanos - so nice to see you back on the thread . How are things?
Its ds1's birthday tomorrow so better get off MN and make sure his presents are sorted. Seems to be an overwhelming theme of Star Wars running thro them .
Thanks ploom that's exactly what I need someone to say to me, to reassure me that the KFO will work out. All I get are the negative comments from dd and don't know anyone in real life who has had braces. In my childhood only the really goofy dc had a brace, dh has no idea and I can't see what's wrong with my 2dc's teeth (except from the xray, I know there isn't room for the adult teeth to come through). So thanks!
Hope the birthday goes well and your ds has a great time!
Glad I helped! I agree that when we were younger it was rarer for dc to have a brace but think its now rare not to have a brace. I really wish I'd had one as a child as my teeth are definitely not straight but it was never suggested. Sometimes cant help myself but stare at dd's teeth when she's talking - they are just so nice now. I've even started taking ds1 every 3 months just for them to keep an eye on how his teeth come thro since I've realised what a difference early intervention with a night brace can make. But the KFO is happy to leave him for now - he's only got 8 adult teeth so he's got a while to go yet.
Admylin, my daughter had a brace fitted when living in Germany. She was a thumb sucker and definitely needed the brace! Now she has beautiful straight teeth so I would definitely stick with it, it's worth it.
Ploom, how old is your ds? Is he having a party?
Happy birthday to your DS for tomorrow, Ploom! I made the "mistake" of asking for Star Wars presents (if anyone asked, which they all did) for DS's birthday and he ended up with two of the same Lego stationery sets and five of those Lego globe things (two the same). I don't think he got anything non-Star Wars-related !
admylin I have two slightly crooked front teeth (milk teeth that didn't come down till I was in my twenties) and the orthodontist advised against a brace as he said that a little bit of imperfection was no bad thing! I sometimes wish I'd had one, although it would probably have been quite an expense - and I was a student at the time.
We're thinking about making an appointment with the doctor to have DD1's height checked out. I've just been looking at the height charts and she's virtually at the bottom (10th percentile) for a 10 year old - and she'll be 11 in two months. I doubt there's much they can/would want to do, but I suppose it's best to be on the safe side.
Happy birthday to your DS, Ploom!
Did you complain to the teacher about that strange maths marking?
Linzer I do love those Buschenschänke! Not having a clue what half of the food on the menu is just makes it even more fun . It does mean I run the risk of ordering something that MIL wil disapprove of and then have to hear about it for rest of the week though... (I love my PILs dearly, we've just spent a LOT of time with them recently and they are starting to make me a little murderous.)
admylin My washing plans have been scuppered a few times by DS' explosive (teething-related) diarrhoea, so haven't managed to get that much done yet.
I'd love a dryer too! We're thinking of getting a washer-dryer when we move. They seemed really expensive on MediaMarkt etc but there were some cheaper ones on Amazon. No progress with the flat yet, but we're still waiting for the landlady to let us know how much rent she wants to charge.
I think the braces sound like a positive thing in the long run - I really wish I had had braces as I have really wonky teeth now. It seems more the exception not to have them these days and the others on the thread with much more experience of these things than me seem very positive about them!
Flippity Glad to hear your daughter is feeling a bit better now.
Hello cheas & English
Hi platanos, good to 'see' you! (I used to be Gator and before that BananMad)
Nutella How strange of your brother to do that! I hated people touching my bump when I was pg, but luckily it didn't happen too much. I managed to freak my brother out by getting him to touch the bump just as DS was having a massive wriggle He was horrified!
DS was another one who would only really sleep on me for ages, but we had a small cot-like thing on wheels that we had next to our bed until he grew out of it and moved into the bigger cot.
DS is really suffering at the moment, bless him. He had no problems whatsoever with his first 8 teeth and now there are 3 huge ones coming at once. (Pre-molars, maybe, need to google.) He's really out of sorts, clingy, not really eating solid food but screaming for far more milk than he normally has, has nasty diarrhoea & has huge lumps in his gums where the teeth are almost through. I really feel for him. I think he might be in the middle of a growth spurt at the same time, which can't be helping.
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You're all still here!
I haven't read the thread for a week as we were away for DS's birthday in the Black Forest, what a lot has gone on. Sorry to hear of the dramas, hope everyone is ok.
Happy Birthday to your DS, Ploom, it seems it is a busy time of year!
Nutella, I'd recommend holding off on the cot if you think you can - you may feel you want to cosleep once your baby gets here. Unless you are totally against that, of course!
Antique, poor little one teething, ow! Hope it passes soon.
Sorry for not namechecking more, I am way behind!
antique teething is so hard on them isn't it, and they don't understand really. Hope it's over with quickly.
linzer how tall is your dd1? My dd is quite small for her age but I don't have a chart, is there an online one to check? A friend of mine went to the doctor with her dd as she was very short for her age and she got some hormone treatment but she had to fight for it to be payed for and it hasn't exactly made her tall. Also alot of side effects.
Thanks all for the comments about braces. It helps! Dh had an adult tooth removed as he didn't have enough room for them all so he's no good example for me to go by!
vegans did you find a nice place to stay in the black forest?
Have to go and collect ds from school soon, he has school until late today at a different site for sport then he has half and hour to eat then back out to drive to a table tennis match. Usually they put the matches on later but for some reason the town he's playing against are putting it on early. Hope he hasn't got any homework as I won't be expecting him back until after 7pm.
Just found an online height chart and dd is on the 50th percentile line so infact she's durchshnittlich! Wow, that also means that all her friends are far too tall! She's definately the smallest girl in the class.
admylin Were you looking at a German height chart? (I just used one I found online, btw - I think it was a German one, so maybe DD1 is normal outside Germany. ) I find the Germans taller than the British or Austrians, so that might make a difference; at all her friends being far too tall. DD1 is 135 cm and, apart from being the smallest in her class, she's also the same size as most of DD2's friends (and weighs less and has smaller feet than DD2!). I'm not sure I'd want her to have hormone treatment unless it was absolutely necessary as I'd be worried about the side effects, but hopefully she's just short for her age and she still has a few years to catch up.
Vegans Hope you had a good time in the Black Forest!
Antique at the menu adventures; that's my excuse for just sticking to the wine! The Styrians aren't particularly comprehensible accent-wise either, from what I remember (DH went to university there).
We used to have a washer-dryer, but I didn't find the dryer particularly good; the separate dryer we have now is a lot better (although not very energy efficient, so DH is hoping it will give up the ghost soon - of course, like our ancient TV, it shows no signs of doing so). Obviously a combined washer-dryer is better if space is limited and maybe we just had a particularly inefficient model before.
Hope your DS is better soon, poor little thing - teething really isn't much fun (my MIL has only just stopped blaming absolutely every little niggle/bad mood the DCs have on teething ).
Indeed it was fab to be in the UK Ploom!! Yes admylin I did some shopping... sadly not that much stuff for me (no point with such a big belly ) but my Mum bought me a really nice grey waterfall style cardigan which was exactly what I'd been looking for. I needed another jumper but wanted something that would function when baby is here for BF etc.
My Mum was also very happy to be in the UK and do some shopping so we both had a really nice time. I also saw a few handbags I really like but don't really need one right now and the next bag I buy will be a changing bag
antique I don't mind family and good friends having a feel of the bump and I try to let them know it's allowed because I can understand how curious they are... but generally they ask before having a feel and the are really gentle; except for stupid middle bro and his poking! I would definitely be unhappy if someone - even family- went for a feel without asking... I find that a bit odd.
On the cot front I can't make up my mind... I'm not convinced about co-sleeping I move around loads in my sleep. Honestly I don't know how anyone shares a bed with me - DP and I have a superb huge bed and we each have our own mattress (but a massive duvet; which I insisted on for cuddling purposes), DP's sheet looks normal and stays put; mine looks like I've had a fight every night and often needs tucking back in. I know I would be terrified about squishing a small person and probably wouldn't sleep well... if at all...
Vegans where were you in the black forest? I'd love to see some more castles and things in Germany and we always have the excuse of travelling to see friends in Nürnberg or family München we should make more of an effort!
admylin have you discovered the bahlsen factory shop?? Don't go there it is very dangerous!!!
Just to add randomly to the dryer conversation...
Linzer the PIL have offered to buy us a tumble dryer and they have only looked at the Miele ones and are totally happy buying us an industrial sized one - which might be a little more than we need- but it is lovely of them and we will definitely be looking into it. But what I wanted to say was I am of the opinion (via my Mum) that a washing machine is good at washing and a tumble dryer is good at drying; when you combine the two neither function is great
Also if you need to do a lot of washing and only have the one machine it could be a bit frustrating. DP's dad also mentioned a washer/dryer that could wash 7kg but only dry 3.5kg (or something like that) which seems like a real PITA!
Nutella I tend to agree with your mum. Our separate dryer seems to dry clothes more quickly and with fewer creases than the washer-dryer and yes, we often have it on at the same time as the washing machine. (But if I only had space for one machine, I'd probably still go for a washer-dryer rather than just a WM.)
Re co-sleeping, I wasn't keen on the idea but tried it as DD1 was an awful sleeper and I didn't think it could get any worse. It could. (Well, she slept about as well, or rather as badly, as ever, but I ended up getting even less sleep.) Co-sleeping does seem to work brilliantly for some people - my SIL co-slept for five years - but I wasn't one of them. DD1 actually slept better when we moved her out of our bedroom into her own room.
We stayed in a place called Triberg, it was very nice. Self-catering, nothing fancy. The Hotel Inspector would have had palpitations at the clutter, crazy jigsaws that had been laminated and then hung on the wall like art, lots of dried flowers, but it was mainly ok. We didn't get to any castles, will have to go again!
I love co-sleeping, so easy for nursing, and changing nappies, and the snuggles are sheer bliss!
Washer driers tend to be pants, co-sleeping works for some but depends hugely on the type of child you get - I sometimes
usually end up in with DS2 in desperation from about 3am, but he jumps on my head and uses my hair to force me tplay peekaboo (or rather Kook Kook!) throws himself off the bed and screaches "ISSSSSSSSSSSSS DAAAAAAAAAAAA MUMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" while slapping me gleefully around the face... not so much of the snuggles, and changing his nappy in bed would mean poo absolutely everywhere as, I may have mentioned, he's not much of a one for staying still... Sometimes often I am tired enough to doze through being used as a bouncy castle/ activity centre/ punching bag, but I wouldn't say I get actual sleep... I do believe other babies and small children are all snuggly lovely cuddly when co-sleeping, but mine think if they have company it's time for a party He sleeps all lovely and snuggly in my/ DH's arms for a cat-nap though, and sometimes I lie down with him in the day and we get half an hour...
Time to go to work in a minute, apologies for sweeping in making blanket statements
Happy birthday Ploom Junior!
*Admylin I always think dd is small for her age, though actually now there are 4 of them in her class very close indeed in size, all the others are taller, some much, much taller - and her little brother is pretty much the same height, 3kg heavier and has bigger feet... DS1 is Bavarian size though and DD is British size I think She is exactly 50th centire too on the WHO charts where DS1 is between the top 2 lines on the chart for boys... People keep asking me if DS2 is 2 (he's not quite 18 months) so I guess he's going the same way as his brother (though they often ask when he's climbed to the top of something heigh, or attempting to half inch an older toddler's balance bike, so maybe it's that )
Hurt my back on Saturday, it was agonly yesterday, ended up at the doctor's and he gave me an injection and 800mg Ibuprofen (which work very nicely for a few hours ) tablets and a referal for physio twice a week - but it seems physios work weekday afternoons only, how's that supposed to work! I can't be the only mother of small children who's ever needed physio... hmmm... Ah well, off to take some lovely strong Ibuprofen and go to work!
Waves at everyone!
English Sorry to hear about your back; that must be really painful. Re the physio appointments, do you live in the kind of area where grandparents live a maximum of five minutes away so are on hand for all kinds of eventualities, or is that just here?
One disadvantage of co-sleeping for me (not that I'm anti it at all; it's great if it works for you) was that the few times I ended up falling asleep with the baby in the bed, I would wake up to find the sheets soaked with milk... I suppose that's only a problem in the first month or so though, if at all.
Quick maths question if anyone's around (otherwise it can wait until DH comes home in an hour or so)... DD1 has to answer the following question:
Runde auf den gegebenen Stellenwert und berechne den Rundungsfehler
a) 93 425 (ZT)
So, to the nearest ten thousand, that would be 90,000. Is the Rundungsfehler then the difference between the two numbers, i.e. 3,425?
I have heard the same about washer/dryers, you can only dry half the amount you can wash, and they are not as good as separate machines.
I bought a tumble drier on Ebay, barely used, it was a bargain!
English, ouch, agony. Backache is one of those pains that make you hurt all over and feel completely lousy. My sympathies.
I view the bouncy castle/punching bag toddler affections as a lovely firm massage! It's actually rather nice! He loves climbing on my back and digging his toes in, it is just like a Thai massage, and nice when he has long toenails for a little backscratch!
I must be lucky. DS stopped pooing overnight very early. I've even forgotten about changing pooey night nappies!
LT I only had overflowing milk issues for the first couple of months or so, and breastpads worked a treat. Fabric ones, not disposables, or the baby will get a mouthful of cotton wool if you aren't careful.
Happy birthday Ploomchen.
Ouch to bad back English, hope it gets better soon.
Never heard anything good about washer/dryers. Separate all the way here. Just getting to the season when we put the washing line away as it will snow soon.
Got to go as ds2 can't be bothered to nap this afternoon and a whole load of stuff has gone crashing down! Hope you are all having nice evenings and sorry for not including everyone.
Morning all and happy birthday Jenny (was going to write happy belated birthday, but realised it might still be your birthday there) - did you get up to anything nice?
Vegans Yes, I used nursing pads but would tend to fall asleep without putting them back in when I had the baby in bed with me (I realise that's a bfing-baby-lying-down-in-bed more than a co-sleeping problem!). I did use disposable ones - didn't even think of using fabric ones, probably because you just don't see them in the shops here. It would definitely have made economic and environmental sense, as I got through so many, although we never had any problems with the baby getting a mouthful of cotton wool.
Happy belated birthday, Jenny! Hope you had a great day.
Can't remember who was talking about what, but we have a washer-dryer, I think it's a Siemens. I don't have separate machines to compare it with, but it washes well enough. I only use the drier for towels, pillows and duvets, but it manages ok as long as it isn't overloaded and I open the machine straight after it's finished. It must be 15 years old and still going strong, although it's got quite rattly. We've got the space now for separate machines and I'm sure we'll replace it with separates once it finally dies, but I agree with Linzer that a dual-purpose machine is better than only a washer if you don't have space for both (our duvets say they must be tumble-dried after washing, for example, otherwise they go clumpy).
I think you get what you pay for with white goods, both in terms of function and energy efficiency, so a middle to top of the range Miele is going to be ok. Plus hanging out washing is only an unbearable chore if you're not used to it, otherwise it's just normal (as long as you've got the space) .
I second what english says about some children being harder to co-sleep with than others. DD's idea of co-sleeping involved variously: burying her nose in my arm/side (very reassuring in a newborn pfb ), repeatedly sliding her hand (nails uppermost) under me and pulling it out again, pinching me, and most recently trying to put her feet on my stomach/chest/face.
My parents are arriving this afternoon, so I may well not make it onto here much the next two weeks.
<waves to everyone, including platanos, and wonders who frosch is?>
Thanks for all the washer-dryer advice! I keep meaning to ask my dad about it as that's his area of expertise but haven't quite got around to it yet. I think we'll have space for separates, but will probably just get a washing maching for now and a dryer next year at some point.
Sorry, no time to reply to individual posts as the teething monster has awoken. Best dash off to administer cuddles and globuli!
Thanks for all the birthday wishes for Ploomchen (like that name!!) - he had a nice day. He was over the moon with his presents esp a Star Wars sticker book that a friend sent from the UK - it actually trumped all the other presents he got. But he also got a good game from my BIL called "Das Verrueckte Labyrinth". I'd never even heard of it before but it was a huge hit with all of us so would thoroughly recommend it as a present.
cheas - have a fab time with your parents. Have you got nice days out planned with them?
antique - sending "get over teething soon" thoughts to you all. Every parent can sympathise with you [hugs].
I was never a fan of co-sleeping with any of my dc - I really struggled to get any quality sleep with them in the bed and if I was getting a few hours sleep I wanted it to be a decent sleep. In fact I didnt sleep well with them even in our room so all 3 were in their own rooms ASAP. We didnt have a room for ds2 after he was born so he was in his moses basket in the office after he was about 4 weeks .
english - hope your back is on the mend & that you managed to get a physio appt. The strange opening hours of physios/doctors etc here is crazy - surely people need an appt in the mornings too.
vegans - glad you had a good time in the Black Forest.
Waves to everyone else - sorry running out of time before I have to make lunch.
Ploom Glad Ploomchen enjoyed his birthday (I love the name too!). We have a travel version of Das Verrückte Labyrinth, which the DC really enjoyed playing when we were in Italy.
Antique Hope the globuli help! And the cuddles too of course.
cheas Have a lovely time with your parents!
I very rarely dry things completely in our dryer (only really things like towels and sheets) and still hang 95% of things up/out to dry. I just find it speeds up the drying process and usually do one schranktrocken cycle, which is a complete misnomer as nothing is dry enough to put away.
I get a whole extra hour to myself this morning as DS is going to a friend's after school. DD2 has spent the whole morning doing something called Trockenrasen pflege (am getting a bit paranoid about people googling!) and has IT straight after school, so DD1 will be first home today and will be out of school in about 20 minutes. Fingers crossed the homework and maths revision don't take quite as long today; we finally finished at 6.15 pm yesterday.
linzer wow, what is that skill preparing your dd1 for? It does have someting to do with grass right, or is it something else? Did you solve your maths question? Never came across Rundungsfehler when my 2 did that.
ploom glad the birthday boy had a good day! It's always surprising how something simple like a sticker bok can give so much joy! I've heard of your labyrinth game, might have a look at it in town as dd has been complaining that we don't have enough games. We have playing cards, dominos, uno,yahtzee, snakes and ladders and ludo and that's abut it. I think that's enough but dd compares that with her friend's game cupboard where she has 2 generations of games collected from oma und opa and her parents and many new ones too.
antique hope the cuddles could distract your ds abit from the pain.
cheas have a nice time with your parents. Are they staying with you?
english sorry about your back. Hope you can manage to find some physio. Although I didn't enjoy my shoulder physio at all, when I had it for my back years ago it was bliss. I got to sleep for 15 minutes on hot fango then a quick massage and a few exercises. If you weren't so far away I'd baby/child sit for you while you went!
nutella yes the Bahlsen factory shop is great isn't it! Ds's friend lives round the corner from it so it's handy to pop into before I pick him up! Have you seen the white baby bed on the tchibo website this week? It's a classic plain cot, quite a reasonable price too.
Better go and get lunch ready, ds is growing again and he could eat 3 times as much as his sister. He's constantly hungry and all his pyjamas, jogging trousers, tops and t-shirts are getting too small!
Right, he's napping & I've just warmed my cup of tea up so have 5 mins to catch up!
How long does the pain normally go on for? He seems to have three first molars coming through, two are almost through (huge lumps in his gums, hurts just to look at them) and one on the top which looks like it's just starting to come through. It started last Monday so has been a week and a half already, on & off, someone please tell me it will be over soon! The teething pain itself seems to come in waves but it's his poor little bottom which is bright red and shiny from the runs that he's had for a few days now. He screams if we go anywhere near the changing mat and nappy changes are torture for the poor thing. I've spent a good 40 in the pharmacy over the past few days - I'm sure their eyes light up when they see a pfb! I'm actually wondering whether to take him to the Kinderarzt, but I'll try the stuff the Apotheke gave me first.
If anyone has any tips, oh wise parents who have been through this before, I would love you forever.
admylin Hope you managed to fill your DS up nicely without having to empty the entire fridge
Linzer I got all confused and thought the school were teaching your DD2 about shaving for a minute there!
Ploom Glad your DS had a nice birthday! The game sounds good, I might check it out next time we're in town.
cheas Have a lovely time with your parents!
jenny Hope there wasn't too much destruction earlier!
English Sorry to hear about your back. I hope you manage to get a physio appointment soon. Could you persuade a neighbour to watch your DC for an hour or so or is that not really an option?
Vegans Glad you had a nice time in Bavaria! We passed through on the way to Austria and I was really excited to see an old man in full Lederhose in the services.
Hello to anyone I've missed! Off to whack my tea back in the microwave!
So many exclamation marks in one post - sorry
Your poor DS, Antique. I'm afraid I don't have any useful tips as I don't remember the DC suffering all that much with teething (or maybe I've just blanked it from my memory as it was too traumatic!) or what I did apart from giving them plenty of objects to chew on. I have vague memories of buying some kind of teething gel, but whether I actually did and whether it helped much is another question. I did find those gel-filled teething rings quite good, though; the DC certainly enjoyed putting them in their mouths!
admylin From what DD2 told me, they were basically pulling up shrubs - or rather cutting them out (or whatever the correct gardening term is); they had to take in secateurs and gardening gloves. Am still not quite sure what a Trockenrasen is exactly, though!
DD1 put on her winter pyjamas for the first time this year last night and announced that they're now her summer pyjamas, as they were about 6 inches too short! I had a look at the label and they were size 110/116 (but they must have fit her last winter). After digging around in her cupboard, I found some size 134/140 PJs, but they were about 6 inches too long. But it seems silly buying her 122/128 when she's normally size 134 (and it's not as if I can even pass them on to DD2, as she'd have grown out of them by the time DD1 had finished with them).
Thanks, Linzer! We've had fewer runny nappies this afternoon (oh yes, I went through the nappy bin and counted ) and the teeth themselves don't seem to be bothering him too much any more. The lumps are really white now so hopefully the teeth with bust their way through very soon.
Nappy changes are still absolute torture but I've just been letting him crawl around with a bare bum this afternoon. I think I just had a panic as he had no symptoms apart from a tiny bit of grumpiness with the first eight teeth so this was a bit of a shock. And of course I convinced myself he had something really nasty wrong with him (thanks Wikipedia!)
Could you buy pyjamas in the bigger size and roll them up a bit for now? Or would that not make sense? [clueless]
That sounds promising, Antique. Sorry, forgot to mention before that we did have lots of problems with nappy rash and letting them crawl round with a bare bum definitely helped, as did Sudocrem (and avoiding baby wipes).
The pyjamas aren't really roll-uppable as the material is too soft; if they were just an inch or two too long it wouldn't be too bad, but she'd trip over if she wore them! Maybe I ought to look for some in size 134 rather than 134-140; I'm not really sure whether H&M do "single size" PJs so maybe I'll have a look in C&A, as they're about the only other affordable shop I can think of. (Plus DH gets 12% off there, which is an added bonus. )
antique - I remember so clearly going thro episodes of teething and then all the drama stopping as suddenly as it started. We probably gave our dc some calpol if they looked really miserable or used Bonjella altho the taste isnt great. About his sore bum, my only advice is to clean him using cotton wool dipped in baby oil at every change. Even for poos. This just seems to create a barrier and worked better than any nappy cream. I also think letting him have some bare bum time is also a great idea - that will definitely help to heal it. I remember tho that nappy changes at just past 1 year old were a nightmare with all 3 dc and we often used pull up nappies just for an easy life. I promise this time will pass <<hugs>>.
Linzer - forgot to write before, I dont think it'd be the worst thing to just have it noted by the kinderarzt that you have concerns about your dd1's height. But you and your dh are an average height so I wouldnt expect her to be really tall. But at least last years PJ's show that she's definitely growing. Shame you cant get a 128/134 size - thats probably what she needs. My ds2 needs 116/122 which you dont seem to get either.
Need to get out early in the morning (as opposed to the last 2 mornings where I've gone back to bed after getting the dc out to school ) - need to get dd some ski clothes from Aldi. Going to buy her an adult S size and hope she gets more than 1 winter out of it. Also going to buy blue or black in the hope that I can pass it on to the boys - do you think it'll be noticable that its womens ski clothes or will the boys be able to wear them?
Well I had a wonderful time back in the UK, and have stocked up on a few treats.... MacVitie's chocolate digestive anyone?
I'm just calling in to say I'm taking a mumsnet break for a little while. Thanks for the advice and support everyone, and best of luck with the families/babies/everything else.
I'm friends on fb with Linzer and am happy for her to pass my details on, should anyone want to friend me over there
Cake Mmm, am quite partial to chocolate digestives - my biscuit of choice before I discovered chocolate hobnobs. Glad you had a good time in the UK; I'm feeling in need of some British retail therapy, but will have to wait until Christmas...
Will be sorry to see you go from the thread; good luck with the rest of your pregnancy and do pop in to let us know how it all goes! I sometimes think - usually after I've had to take a self-imposed break when I've been on holiday - that I should take a MN break as I waste too much time lurking, although cutting down on the amount of threads I post on has saved me a lot of time.
Ploom Good luck at Aldi this morning - hope it wasn't too much of a scrum. I can't imagine that blue or black women's ski wear would obviously be for women; the main difference is probably that they don't go up to as big a size, and I'm sure that boys could get away with wearing it.
You're right; DH and I are both average height so it would be very unlikely that we'd have a taller-than-average child. The other two aren't tall either; in fact, DS looks quite short compared to a lot of his friends - I should probably check where he is on the height chart too.
I'm feeling surprisingly alert considering that I've been awake on and off since 4 am (when DH had to get up for his flight to Berlin). I finally got back to sleep properly about 15 minutes before the alarm went off, which is always the way.
Now need to get everything ready for DD2's English lesson. I'd agreed with the teacher that I'd write all the sentences that I did with the DC last time (the ones she said were too difficult for them) on the board today, despite the fact that I more or less did so last time anyway, and thought that would take up a good part of the lesson. However, I discovered from DD2 last night that the teacher has already done so, so I'll need to find a bit more to do with them today.
Will get linzer to pass me your FB details - I know you havent been on the thread long but would love to hear how it all goes with the baby/restaurant/life in general!
So got to Aldi this morning at 8.01am and somehow still only managed to get a ski jacket for dd but no trousers . How is that possible?? But we're off to another town this morning to do some clothes shopping so might look in an Aldi there.
Oh no Ploom, was it really busy there? Trying another Aldi sounds like a good plan; the one in the next town to us is usually a bit quieter so I've often been able to get things there that have already sold out at our local store. I couldn't get the winter boots in the size and colour I wanted for DS last week either - I arrived at 7.58 and they'd already opened! - but at least I was able to get some in a different (not pink!) colour.
ploom I was going to suggest the online shop at C&A for ski trousers but maybe you found some in the other Aldi.
Linzer that's an early start to the day, hope the English lesson is good. Sounds like your dd1 was getting the school garden/grounds ready for winter! Good idea to save getting a gardner!
Just got our yearly electric bill and we're going to have to pay 22 more per month from now on. Can't understand where we have used so much more electricity. I know the price has meant to have gone up but not that much yet.
admylin They actually went to a park to do the gardening; child slave labour is obviously the way forward!
That sounds like a big increase in your electricity bill; I think ours has gone up by that much over the past four years. How much are you paying per month now? Personally, I think we should get a discount on our electricity bill but sadly DH's employers (our electricity supplier) don't seem to agree!
Thanks for the reassurance, Linzer & Ploom! He seems a little better today. Still has the runs but nappy-free time, wet-wipe avoidance & Heilwolle in his nappy seem to be helping. I think I just had a panic yesterday as I felt so awful for him. He was desperately trying to get away from me while I was changing him and screaming in pain, but needing to come to me for a cuddle, you could see the dilemma in his little red face. It was horrible!
Who knew a sore bum could cause this much trouble! I'm not sure whether to take him to the Dr for the runs or whether to leave it for a few days and see if it clears up. Will see how he is this afternoon.
Ploom Pull ups are amazing! I've used nothing else for the past few months as DS is a very lively baby and will not lie down, let alone lie still. I'm currently the master of changing nappies while crawling around the flat
God luck at Aldi! Hope you manage to get the rest of your bits. I reckon black or blue ski stuff would be fine on a boy, but it all depends whether the boy in question knows it was actually meant for a girl....
admylin Our bill has gone up by that much too. It's ridiculous, isn't it. We (well, DH) went through the bill and we had used a little more since having DS, but most of it was due to a price increase.
cake Good luck with the rest of your pregnancy and with the restaurant! Do pop back in and let us know how you're getting on (and of course when your gorgeous baby arrives).
antique and linzer that's bad news but good to know that you also pay more! Our electricity is expensive anyway as the water is heated by an electric boiler thing. We pay 102 a month and before that it wa sabout 50 less in more modern flats where the hot water came from goodness knows where but not the electric!
Dh applying for a job in Austria now! In Graz. The pay seems very high but maybe cost of living is that much more than in Germany.
antique glad your ds is feeling abit better. I can't remember any of the specifics about teething/nappy problems we must have had, blocked it all out I think since we hit the teen years! I did have a teething gel and did the baby oil bum cleaning but otherwise no idea. I'd have been to see the doctor by now for sure as with ds we used to run there for every little thing, dh was terrible - one sniff or cough from ds and we'd be off to the doctor!
Ooh admylin we spent last week just south of Graz and it was absolutely stunning! Graz was a really nice city too.
Graz would be good, admylin - I'd come and visit you and we could try out a few Buschenschänke. Seriously though, it's a nice part of the country - DH went to university there. I don't think the cost of living here is significantly higher than in Germany; in fact, I thought that salaries in Germany tended to be higher than in Austria. It's over 10 years since I last lived in Germany, admittedly, but I don't find the cost of living particularly high
and wine can be ridiculously cheap.
The electricity does sound expensive. We pay just over 70 a month and I think it was only 40-something when we first moved into the house. We probably have the heating on less than most people, though (although far more than my parents would!).
Antique Glad to hear your DS is on the mend. I would take him to the doctor's if it's not better in a day or so; I took DD2 (possibly the others as well - it's all a bit of a blur now!) and it turned out she had a yeast infection, which is why the normal nappy rash cream wasn't having much effect.
linzer do you heat the house with electricity? Our heating is gas and included in the Nebenkostenpauschal but the hot water is an electric boiler and we pay directly to the electric company. Shame you can't get a deal from your dh's employer!
Graz sounds good, the pay was quite high and as a plus they pay 14 months, unheard of here. I'd guess it would be payed at Christmas and for summer maybe. Here dh gets a small sum at Christmas but no where near a full months pay. I wonder if family health insurance would be available for around 700? That's what we pay here.
admylin No, we heat the house with gas - so you can completely ignore my comment about us not having the heating on much! I blame my early start.
Fourteen months' pay is standard here - DH gets an extra month's pay in May (for the summer holidays) and November (for Christmas). I'm sure that it doesn't really increase your salary, i.e. the employer would work out what annual salary they want to pay and would just divide it by 14 rather than 12, but it is nice when DH gets a big monthly salary twice a year!
Most Austrians don't work Friday afternoons; DH does (although he wouldn't have any problems if he wanted to come home at midday), although he's usually home a couple of hours early. Lots of bank holidays and Fenstertage here too.
admylin DP also gets the summer holiday and Christmas bonus... his company is based out of Nürnberg though... But a move to Austria (and more money) sounds great!
DP might have the chance to move to Köln or back to Nürnberg... problem is with Nutellachen (Ploomchen was so cute I've stolen it - ps. happy belated birthday to him!) on the way and family around here as much as
any other a bigger city sounds great I'm now in two minds about a move...
cake I also bought chocolate digestives in England - they have to be the dark chocolate ones though. What is it about chocolate digestives - don't say the chocolate - I like normal digestives too but put that little layer of choc on top and.... <dribble emoticon>
Good luck with all things baby related and hope to see you on here again soon! At the very least with news of babycake!
Linzer who would have thought that the schools would be organising free child labour?? it does sound a bit bizarre though... I was very to learn DP had to do knitting at school. I tried to explain this to my Mum but I don't think she believed me
I realise I have been very slack in not coming back and telling you what else I bought while in the UK. I also got some M&S pants and when I got home DP asked if I had bought him more socks last time we were there I said you have to have a multi-pack of M&S socks but he wasn't convinced... and now it seems he has grown quite attached to them!
I did buy some baking supplies - cream of tartar and baking powder (I don't trust the little packets - and it's too much faffing) and a lot of green and blacks chocolate... it was on offer!
Probably my favourite UK purchase though is my new slippers they were also from M&S and look like bunnies
Nutella that was almost like a session of therapy for British retail deprived me! I used to wander in a daze down the baking isle and the crisp isle of supermarkets whenever I went to the UK! M&S are great for basics aren't they? Dh orders online from them and last time he went to London he ended up getting himself a jacket and some shoes!
Hmm, I can see what you mean about a move once Nuttellachen is here but it'd also be a good chance to go straight into somewhere bigger and you'd have to sit back and occupy baby while someone else did all the moving/carrying. My 2 house moves with toddler/baby were great as I couldn't help even I'd wanted to as someone had to watch the dc. It got alot worse when we moved and the dc were old enough to occupy themselves, then I had to muck in and do more!
Linzer how long is your dh away this time? We're STILL waiting for the money to come from the Portugal trip. They're asking him to go to a meeting in Germany now but he's turned it down.
Nutella I don't think knitting is taught at school here (or when I was in the UK - I did knitting as part of my GCSE in creative textiles, but already knew how to), but everyone learns to crochet. Sadly, crocheting was still very much for girls when DH was at school so he was of absolutely no use in helping DD1 and I had to send her over to our neighbour when she was struggling to learn.
DH loves his M&S multipacks of socks! The most recent ones he bought all have multicoloured stripes on the toe and heel; not noticeable normally, but some friends of ours found it very funny when we went over to their house recently and he had the pink/red striped pair on.
admylin DH will be back this evening, but I've no idea what time. I don't blame your DH for turning down the German trip; it's bad enough that he has to pay out of his own pocket in the first place, but you'd think they could reimburse him fairly promptly.
Oh dear, I've just noticed that my 1er-Mama friend on FB (the one with several million friends) has a new friend called Robert W*nk. I just hope he never has to deal with anyone in an English-speaking country.
<snort> at Robert W*nk, Linzer
<giggles in a corner with antique he he he he he> Robert W*nk.. brilliant!
I was really surprised by DP wanting more M&S socks but now I know next time I (or more likely we) go I will buy him a new multipack. Sounds like I have the ones your DH has Linzer - I found the ladies ones a bit too small DP's socks are similar with just a colour (i.e. pink, orange, blue) and grey stripes from toe to heel.
admylin Your poor DH's employers sound terribly slow, can't believe he hasn't been paid back yet for portugal! That would really bug me if I had to pay for an expensive work trip out of my pocket and know it would be weeks before I got the money back... I did enough grumbling about one of the schools I work for not paying me for August until this week - Although they are often slow.
Our lovely upstairs neighbours are moving out in December and we found out that not only are our retired
miserable neighbours across the way racists but also the old owner who lives downstairs
Basically the new owner (our building changed hands from old to new owner at the beginning of the year) was coming to show someone around the flat and a turkish family had also expressed an interest. The old owner collared our neighbour and between repeatedly saying he doesn't mind foreigners (me thinks the lady doth protest too much) told our neighbour to say they want loads of money for the kitchen and things to put this family off! ridiculArse!
Anyway, on a random note DP has just shown me this LEGO version of Felix Baumgärtner's jump I love all things lego!!
Sorry to barge in like this, but felt like sharing this for anyone interested to watch this documentary (2012) tonight...
HOME SWEET HOME
Do 18.10.22:45 - 00:20ARTE
Doku, 95 Min.
In London wartet eines der größten Stadterneuerungsprojekte Europas auf die Umsetzung.
1974 fertiggestellt, bildeten die Betonklötze von Heygate Estate im Bezirk Elephant and Castle eines der größten Sozialbaugebiete der Stadt. Doch die gigantischen Blocks verkamen schnell, Kriminalität und Armut regierten. 1997 versprach Tony Blair vollmundig eine Sanierung und die Errichtung lebenswerten Wohnraums für Geringverdiener. Die Finanzkrise ließ die Pläne stocken. Neue Investoren wollen im Herzen Londons keine Sozialwohnungen, sondern lukrative Büros, Shops, Apartments. Autorin Enrica Colusso traf Bewohner - die Verlierer im Spiel der Politiker, Geldgeber und Architekten - und beleuchtet kritisch die englische Wohnungsbaupolitik.
Wow its been quiet on here this morning !
Spent way too much time and effort this morning trying to get rid of an old rain butt that we inherited from the previous owners thats now cracked. The local tip wouldnt take it cause its plastic and told us to either drive 30 mins to the bigger tip or saw it up ourselves and put it in the yellow sacks . Thankfully some friends locally have a skip so they said we can chuck it in there - now hope it fits!
nutella - Isnt it shocking that some people in the world are still racist? I dont know anyone personally who is racist so it always comes as a shock to me that there are people still around with such narrow minded views. Someone I went to school with posted some really vile racist (and homophobic) stuff on FB - I couldnt delete him fast enough.
Love the lego link - have just posted it to my FB wall! Very jealous of your supplies from the UK - thats half the reason I go back now .
linzer - <giggles> at Herr W*nk but really shouldnt since I'm also afflicted with a rude sounding name in English speaking countries (not my FB name obv). You have to laugh tho - its only a name.
admylin - thats shocking that your dh is still waiting for the money - they really take the piss there. Have got everything crossed for him that one of these other jobs works out. I only learned yesterday that dh also gets paid 13 monthly. Had never thought to ask before. Nice idea.
antique - glad your ds is a wee bit better. Hopefully he'll carry on so (well until the next lot of teeth come thro!).
I got ski trousers at C&A in the end yesterday - they were 39 euros (the aldi ones were 19) but I just couldnt be arsed driving back an forward trying to get them from an Aldi. Also got myself some new sneakers (altho dd says they're not proper sneakers ), dh got a jacket and I got ds2 some insulated trousers so a successful morning. Oh and brought myself some Chinese food home for lunch too - I miss takeaway food in the UK so much so that was my biggest treat.
Got a busy afternoon of driving the dc about then tomorrow is ds2's first football match followed by ds1's birthday trip to the cinema. Going to try to sneak drinks and sweets into the cinema - has anyone else done this? Will they catch me at it?
Hope you all have a great weekend
Yes, it was spookily quiet on here this morning, wasn't it? Good for me though, as it meant fewer distractions while I was trying to work! Sounds like you had a successful shopping trip, Ploom - I want to go to C&A tomorrow to get pyjamas for the girls (apart from DD1's ridiculously short ones, DD2 is complaining that hers aren't warm enough). Hope you all enjoy the film - what are you going to see? I'm sure you could get away with taking your own drinks and sweets in with you, unless you made a really obvious show of it going in; no one's going to know exactly what you're eating and drinking in the dark.
I'd never thought of your surname as being rude btw; I suppose it could sound rude if you didn't pronounce it in the German way, but at least it doesn't look at all rude when it's written down. Do you use your maiden name when you're back in the UK?
Nutella DH and I were chuckling over that link last night; we were very impressed with how soon after the proper jump they'd recreated the Lego one!
at the racism but I can quite easily see it happening here too; I'm just shocked at the racist remarks and words that Austrians come out with sometimes. Mind you, my Dad isn't all that much better (although he'd never consider himself racist; people never do though, do they?).
Oh, and DD1 got a 2 in her English test. It was a bit disappointing as she'd made virtually no mistakes in her English, but had misinterpreted two pictures (she'd written "open the door" instead of "close the door" and "sit down" instead of "stand up"), causing her to lose 4 marks. It's a little frustrating that she got a 2 when her only real mistake was to write exercise book as one word, but what can you do?
Ha ha ha it was quiet, as no-one felt comfortable enough to post first right after my last one, maybe?!
It was a great and very enlightening documentary in original with subtitles...
Ploom I grew up in a really small village in a rather middle England environment and I remember moving back to London at 20 was a shock but I loved that shock too. I just don't understand racism, it makes me so I can be really naive and am always shocked when I come across it.
I'm also a bit weird and ask people from different backgrounds why they do stuff their way - some people think I'm mad for asking but I've never had anyone object to explaining something to me, often the response is they're really pleased I'm interested. I find it all fascinating
Oh on the subject of rude names my favourite was during the olympics, I can't remember the sport or the country (Aus, NZ, USA of UK) but the female competitor's name was C*ckburn <wails with uncontrollable laughter> what made it worse was the German commentator trying so hard to not pronounce it how it was spelled, he only succeeded in drawing my attention to it when otherwise I probably wouldn't have remembered it!
Well I'm blaming everyone's absence on the beautiful weather! I have been out and enjoyed it but our dishwasher is broken so I better get on with the washing up oh dear... such a 1st world problem, I really shouldn't complain!
world I would have been fast asleep by the time that documentary came on and I only saw your post today which is a shame because it looks really interesting!
see you later everyone!
ha ha ha world yup, I was going to come on and say you killed the thread! but it seems everyone is back now... and it took me so long to write my post everyone else has popped in! I'm so slow... but I do have to go and wash up... otherwise DP and I will be eating out of mugs for dinner
Well, I was working and I know that silken said she wasn't going to be around much for a little while, so I think that's most of us accounted for. Am hoping to meet up with platanos soon and try to persuade her to rejoin us!
Nutella I was at school with someone called C*ckburn, but I don't remember a tremendous amount of teasing going on - the fact that it was pronounced Coburn
doesn't really fool anyone probably helped a bit!
Aargh, sorry, I've done it again. Apologies cheas!
Isn't that funny nutella , in all seriousness I am not really on this thread as I am not a British ex-pat living in Germany...and the only good thing I might be able to come up with, is at least some good TV program recommendations...by the way there is a new Ken Loach Film, this time playing in Scotland, in the cinemas. He is one of my favourite British film-makers.
Hello everyone. I've got an hour before I have to collect ds at table tennis, wish someone would make me a cup of tea!
linzer well done to your dd for her English test. Was she pleased? I noticed today, we went to dd's dyslexia class and showed her latest German test results ( she got a 3) which I had praised her for as she had hardly any spelling mistakes. Well the therapist really congratulated her and shook her hand and said it was so good. I have to remember to praise her more, as it sort of pushes her mood down when her brother always gets 1s and 2s.
Better go and make my own cup of tea.
oh if you were nearer I'd make you a cuppa admylin. Dh came with me to take the boys to tennis so we left them there and went for a coffee & cake - was a nice treat on a Friday afternoon. They're now at football till 7 but the trainer brings them home so there's only dd at home with us and she's in her room doing what 11 year olds do.
A 2 is still a good mark linzer but I can see why you're a bit disappointed when it wasnt her English skills that got her the mark. But I agree with admylin that I'm not always good for praising 3s where a 3 isnt a bad mark. I always use my married name even in the UK and just take the teasing that comes with it. Just never changed it on FB - not sure why. Good idea about recruiting platanos back to the thread - I really enjoyed her posts.
nutella - about your dishwasher - you're right its such a 1st world problem but they are one of my all time favourite inventions - it just makes life so much easier. We've ended up with 2 dishwashers - we brought ours with us when we moved and then bought one when we had our new kitchen put in. So now the old one just stays in the cellar never getting used .
Its been fab having dh at home this week - despite it keeping me off MN! sometimes we get so caught up in doing work, dc and house stuff that by the time everything is done we're too knackered to talk to each other. Been nice to have a whole 5 mornings just the 2 of us - will be looking forward to his next holidays [soppy emotion].
Ploom Aww, I love a bit of soppiness Glad you had a nice time with your DH at home. I misread your earlier post and have just spent a good 5 mins pronouncing your FB surname in all different ways to try and work out how it sounds rude How was your takeaway? I really fancy a chinese takeaway right now.
admylin Did you get your cup of tea in the end?
Nutella You can totally eat out of mugs.... Hope you get your dishwasher sorted soon. I hate washing up with a passion (although hand-washing baby bottles etc doesn't bother me in the slightest). at the racism. It's always a bit unsettling to realise attitudes like that really do exist, isn't it.
Linzer Congrats to your DD for getting a 2! It's so frustrating when you lose marks for mistakes like that. I hope she's pleased with her 2, I would be!
I was going to post that the documentary was way past my bedtime, world, but I was still jiggling a very wriggly DS around until almost 1am.
DS still has the runs but otherwise he's a lot better. I called the Dr yesterday and the receptionist said not to bother taking him in as he's his normal self, just to make sure he is eating and drinking enough and to let it pass. The teeth still haven't broken through but we must be almost there.
Antique soon, very soon and it'll be better
admylin DD1's dyslexia tutor was always so positive and used to praise her a lot; I used to think it was a shame that her teacher at school couldn't do the same, as it would really have boosted her self-esteem. Having said that, I don't think I praise her enough and have to keep reminding myself to do so. Yes, I think she was quite pleased with her test result - it was only me who was a bit disappointed (and not so much with her grade itself, more because I don't think it really reflected how well she'd done).
Ploom It would drive me mad if DH was at home the whole time! No, it is actually quite nice to spend time together when we're actually awake enough to talk to each other and it doesn't happen enough. We usually just collapse in front of the TV most evenings.
Antique at you spending a good five minutes trying to get Ploom's surname to sound rude! Glad your DS is on the mend now and that you were able to get advice from the receptionist; how's his nappy rash now?
We've just had our Friday night film/TV evening; after watching half of Around the World in 80 Days and an episode of Fawlty Towers with the DC, DH and I have just watched half a film set on the Isle of Man that I bought myself for my birthday (I chose five or six films on Amazon and bought them for myself, theoretically for DH to give me but he forget!). Was quite surprised to see Sebastian Koch (from Das Leben der Anderen) turn up in it and it took me a while to place him.
Hello, hope you have all had a lovely Friday evening. I read all the posts hours ago now that I've forgotten what everybody said. Sorry
Have a great weekend!
Well it turns out my dishwasher problem is more of a pregnancy problem I had turned a nob that sticks out from the kitchen sink tap a day or two ago and made it tight... Seems that was the water supply to the dishwasher... Soooo it isn't broken ... Just wish I'd figured that out before washing everything up! ah we'll that should teach me to twiddle things in the kitchen
Antique I have a recipe for making chocolate cake in a mug in a microwave... So I suppose it is totally acceptable to eat from a mug but yesterday I fancied quiche for dinner... Not so easy in a mug
Hope your DS feels much better soon!
Have great weekends everyone!
Oh Nutella I did exactly the same thing with our dishwasher when I was pregnant! I remember feeling all pleased with myself for fixing the loose thing on the taps and didn't make the connection when the dishwasher suddenly stopped filling with water...
Glad your dishwasher wasn't broken after all nutella! That would have been an expensive thing to replace. It's also a big hassle if it's a built in one. I had abit of a sob on the kitchen floor trying to fit my new one in and fixing the door panel was the worst part. Oh well, I managed it because we really had no spare cash otherwise I would have got someone in to do it for me.
We managed to get ds a winter coat at the weekend. That's one thing off the long list of things he needs. Today I'm going to get him some new sport shoes for the gym and a bag for his new table tennis bat. The trainer told him he needed a better one now that he's in the team so we got him one but now he's been told that such a good bat needs to be put in a case/bag especially for bats and not thrown into his sport bag.
First day of our 2 week half term today. One evening we're all going to the cinema (first time in years) as the dc don't need to be in bed for school. Dh has expressed an interest in the new German film about Alexander von Humboldt and Carl Friedrich Gauß - Die Vermessung der Welt that comes out at the end of the week sometime. Otherwise, dd is planning on going swimming a few times as she has to learn to dive in properly before they have swimming in sport at school. She doesn't want to be one of the few who can't dive in (she hates going under water) so her friend is going to help her. Ds is planning 2 weeks of hibernation in his room but he's made a deal with his dad that if he only plays computer games for 3 hours a week he'll get 50 so he'll have to try and occupy himself.
We're also doing a vegan week of food next week on dd's request as she wants to try it out. I'm looking for info as I will need some ideas for sandwiches otherwise we'll just be having soup most lunches!
admylin What about hummus or a bean spread? (Am sure there are lots of recipes on the Internet.) I used to love peanut butter and banana sandwiches, or you could go all American and have peanut butter and jelly.
Wow, two weeks half term is a lot. It's more or less straight through from September until Christmas here, although we do get quite a few bank holidays etc. over the next few weeks. It's the Nationalfeiertag on Friday and then Allerheiligen next Thursday, plus all the schools close for Allerseelen on the next day and DH gets the day off work as it's a Fenstertag.
DD1 has the Monday and Tuesday of the following week off (schulautonome Tage) but the other two will be at school as normal. The schools don't seem to coordinate their schulautonome Tage at all, which is a bit of a pain; I think DD2 and DS have a couple of Fenstertage off next year, but DD1 won't get those. Our neighbour's DD (same age as DD1 and at Gymnasium) has next Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday off; it's a shame they're off different weeks as they could have kept each other occupied otherwise!
Linzer all those different random days off would confuse me! I still cringe when I remember the day I set off to Kindergarden and only noticed it was a Feiertag when I saw the bakery and shops were closed!
We've got some peanut butter and dd does like peanut better and jelly so that should keep her going! We're going to a slightly bigger supermarket today to see if we can get some different milk/yoghurt options apart from soya milk which I have tried and didn't like. Rather think I'll just go without altogether at first. Dd has got this whole idea from watching Ellen (also vegan) on youtube.
Still no sign of dc in this house so I'm going to have a cup of tea and then wake them as I want ds to try shoes on and would rather go this morning.
admylin - you need vegans to come along and help you. Do you all eat a vegetarian diet at the moment? I think my dc would do ok without meat but they'd be lost without cheese. Well done on getting your ds's winter coat - thats my job with my dd next weekend - hate how it all seems to be at the one time. Enjoy half term - we're only off next week (but happy with that as 1 week is long enough!).
linzer - wow thats complicated with all those different days off. Would be easier if they were coordinated but at least you can then spend some nice time with dd1 while the others are at school. I always think thats hard to do with 3 dc and always feel they really benefit from it when they get some individual time (altho with dd it usually involves me spending too much money!!). Was it a German film on the Isle of Man? I have a fab friend who lives there - its one of my favourite places to go for a few days.
ah nutella - glad the dishwasher isnt broken after all.
Hi jenny - did you have a nice birthday?
antique - at you trying to pronounce my maiden name funnily (altho its not the best name either). Why didnt I marry a man called Beck or Mueller? Life would have been so much simpler . How's your ds this morning? Have his runs settled down?
So dh has gone back to work this morning altho I think he's off 2 days next week so I wont be on my own the whole half term with the dc. Too excitingly he bought a new laptop over the weekend - our old laptop has been slowly dying (the "i" key didnt work nor did the battery amongst other problems) so we were definitely due a new one. But that raised the question from dd whether she can have the old one in her room. We've said no but I'm not sure whether I'm being over protective. We watched a terrible programme the other week about paedophiles on german chatrooms for children and its put the fear into us. She's got free access to the main computer upstairs and I've spoken to her about not using chatrooms or logging into the game sites she plays on but I still wonder if I'm worrying too much?
Ploom DD1 has her own computer in her room, but I wander in and out when she's on it and she doesn't use it for much more than playing games. It's also passwork-protected so I know when she puts it on as I have to enter the password for her. I can't imagine her ever going into a chatroom (she's very young for her age and not the slightest bit interested in Facebook etc.), but I know that you can't be too careful. The one thing I do worry about at the moment is the DC finding unsuitable content on YouTube as they often watch things on there - more on my netbook downstairs and on my iPod, though. I keep meaning to look into parental control software, but haven't got round to it yet. Tbh my main concern at the moment is that she spends too much time on the computer rather than what she does on it, but I'm sure that could change quite quickly. Anyway, that was a lot of waffling... I think that, if your DD already has free access to the main computer, you're doing the right thing by saying she can't have one in her room; I would probably be the same. (We don't have a main computer any more, just my work laptop and my netbook, and I'm not that keen on the DC using my work laptop.)
It was a British film - Albatross - which is why I was quite surprised to see Sebastian Koch in it, probably because it isn't that long since we watched Das Leben der Anderen and it was a completely different kind of role. Good film, though!
admylin One Fenstertag, the mum of one of DD2's friends phoned up to ask if she wanted to go over and play - I had to tell her that DD2 was at school as it was open as normal; I think she was quite .
Maybe Vegans will be along later to help with some vegan food ideas! Or perhaps platanos has some ideas, as her DH is vegan (if you're lurking, platanos!).
Indeed reading you...in my coffee break at work, naughty, so must be brief.
admylin - dh went vegan recently and I was surprised with how much DM had on offer. (DM is also in germany isn't it?). They have a good range of milks (different sorts of soya milks but also oat (I like that) and rice (not that keen)). Also a good choice of vegan spreads in jars- chickpea and ginger, beetroot and radish, bärlauch (what is that in english?). Vegan green pesto and olive paste too. Not cheap but they do go a long way as quite flavour intense so only need a little bit. DM also has things like tofu and soya granules.
back to work...hope you all have a good start to the week.
Thanks for the tip about DM platanos just off out the door now to a shopping centre where there is one so we'll have a look!
I'd say, ploom and Linzer to just be honest about the dangers and explain why chat rooms/fb can cause problems or be dangerous and keep repeating it quite often so it sticks. That's what I've always done and both dc are sensible online. Infact I had to explain ALOT when I met up with Westvan the first time! Mum, how could you meet someone from the evil internet?!
Thanks for that advice linzer and admylin. As tall as dd is, she's not old for her years - also no interest in FB etc - just really wants to play games at the moment. Agree honest chatting about the dangers is the way to go. The programme was also talking about the dangers of FB but think I'll be more able to protect dd on there once the time comes because I use FB all the time - I know how the privacy settings work. Its the rest of the internet that makes me nervous. But think all my worries were so in the front of my mind that before I met cheas the first time I was still a bit petrified she was going to be some hairy trucker who was going to kidnap me so can imagine the conversation with your dd admylin when you met Westvan. Thankfully I think our bullshit radar is a bit better developed than the dc so we know when to be suspicious of strangers online.
Hi platanos - hope you're not having to work too hard!
Off to google Sebastian Koch linzer - dont know him.
oh I know his face now! Didnt know that was his name (nearly called ds2 that - I love the name Sebastian but worried it was too posh when lived in the UK).
Yes, Sebastian definitely has posher connotations in English than in German. It seems a lot more common here too; I only know one in the UK (and he's half French, so his name actually ends in -en).
I must admit I've never been worried about meeting people I've met on the Internet, although it probably makes a difference that I've mainly met fellow expats rather than men on dating sites, for example. I met my only English friend here via a parenting website and have met six MNers now too (five from this thread). I think I was only worried in the sense that we might not get on rather than they might not be who they said they were, but I've really enjoyed meeting everyone.
Ploom & Linzer I loved the name Sebastian too, but Dh vetoed it. Can'T remember why now.
I'm laughing out loud at cheas the hairy trucker! (Polar opposite of her FB pics.)
Ploom V. exciting about the new laptop! Good luck with the internet safety chat. I think if you have a main computer then your DD probably doesn't need one in her room, as the others have said. DS is a bit better now. No runs as yet today, bum a little better but the teeth still haven't broken through so I don't want to get too excited too soon. In fact, he's perked up so much that he spends most of the day indulging in his new favourite hobby of blowing big, squelchy raspberries on my arms & face & giggling his head off!
Good luck with the DM shop, admylin. I think vegan week sounds really interesting. Are you all vegetarian the rest of the time? I bet you'll discover some really tasty new things you'd never even have considered before.
There is quite a nice recipe for a bean spread in the BLW cookbook which might be worth a try. Do you want me to find it and message it to you?
Enjoy your coffee break, platanos!
Linzer It must be a nightmare keeping on top of all the different days off at different times for different DC. I wonder how mums who work FT cope. Is it more normal for mums to be SAHM there?
DH has a friend staying this weekend who is absolutely lovely, but keeps leaving wee all over the inside of the toilet lid - goodness knows how. It's something that would bother me anyway, but I have a toilet-obsessed DS at the moment so am having to keep surreptitiously dashing in there to make sure the place is clean. Not really sure how to bring it up but he's going home tomorrow.
A vegan week, admylin! Wow! Wonderful. I'm Vegans, btw, with a Hallowe'en namechange! If I can help at all, let me know. I hope you enjoy it.
Here are some ideas for sandwiches: Vegan Sandwich Ideas. Do you have an AlNatura near you? Or, if you are wanting to splash out, there is a wonderful company called Vegusto that do awesome sandwich slices, and vegan cheese and stuff, but you usually have to order it online. It is not cheap, but maybe comparable to a nice deli-type prices. Not hideously expensive. The NoMoo Sauce is delicious. Though do bear in mind that I have not had real dairy cheese in 13 years so I have forgotten what dairy tastes like.
I like the name Sebastian, weirdly I have FIVE friends (they don't know each other) who have named their sons Sebastian in the last five years!
Antique, at your weeing houseguest! Yuck!
Thanks vegans there are plenty of ideas on that website, a great help! Dd has also saved a blog by a German woman who did a trial vegan week for some ideas and she says the Ellen de Generes homepage has some ideas too.
platanos we got some nice stuff in DM and not too expensive. Dd chose some different tofu variations, one with almonds and a smoked version and we got some Hafermilch to try so thanks for that tip.
antique the recipe would be great if you can find it! Bet you can't wait until your guest has left, yuck at the splashes on the lid.
ploom it's definately good for your dd to have access to internet for school. We're always looking things up and they have to do quite abit of research for some subjects. For school revision I can recommend abfrager.de and klassenarbeiten.de. You pick the sort of school, year and subject.
Well, we failed at getting sport shoes. Ended up with some sport socks and the vegan stuff. We'll try at another shop tomorrow nearer to us as ds said he couldn't bear to go in another shop today!
Hello everyone! I am shattered today!!
The bean has been busy jumping around the last couple of days... I have no idea what it is doing in there!
Impressed by your vegan adventure admylin
I have the odd vegetarian few days, but I don't think I could do that let alone be a vegan permanently. Although if I'm honest I'd probably be most interested to see what I ended up with to eat at the PIL's.
Speaking of PIL... We were invited to coffee and cake yesterday, FIL had bought two pieces of cake for each of us... two pieces of GIANT cake!!! I had two halves of different cake and was stuffed! I spoke to DP beforehand about not eating too much cake. Only because we were invited out to dinner and I had made cake for our dinner hosts - a very yummy lemon drizzle cake <slobber emoticon> - otherwise it isn't anything unusual for him to eat about three pieces of cake and then complain on the drive home that he needs to undo his jeans <eye roll>
In the end DP came home from dinner with bellyache and went straight to bed... because he had eaten too much... boys, do they ever learn???
Can I have a prize for the most times someone has written cake in a post?? I do love cake....
Anyway; if anyone is still reading; I was wondering if anyone has any tips on delicate washing powder for baby clothes? I have had eczema since about 3 months old ish and DP has incredibly dry skin too so I'm not sure on the best route to take with likely delicate skin of Nutellachen...
The baby ecke should be painted over the course of this week and next, then we need a trip to ikea for cupboards etc and then I suppose I should get on with giving the baby stuff I have a wash... only another 9 ish weeks and there will be a person in all that tiny baby stuff! <gulp>
your poor DS admylin! I can imagine that, DP has a look on his face after an hour or two in town which means "please, please, I beg you, can we go home now?"
and ewwwwww Antique at your weeing house guest! We had some friends visit ages ago (from England) and when I found the lid left up on the toilet I was reminded how lovely it is that germans all sit down
Also, saw this on the Hannover 4 English Speakers F.book page today... sooo funny!! luckygermans
Pleasure, admylin, and thanks!
nutella, sounds like a very cakey day! Yum!
You can get vegan chocolate spread, you know!
Re clothes, I use EcoBalls, and sometimes soap nuts. I have found they work really well, even on cloth nappies. I sometimes add some essential oils if I am doing gym kit.
German men sit down to use the toilet?
Witches I don't know any German men intimately enough to comment or whether it's widespread in Austria too (must ask DH), but those who do are derogatorily (is that a word?) known as Sitzpinkler and thought of as being a bit hen-pecked.
Nutella I watched that episode of Have I Got News For You a couple of weeks ago (I thought I was about six months behind, but obviously have even more catching up to do than I thought) and that bit really made me laugh.
DS has atopic dermatitis but I must admit I don't use any special laundry detergent (although I don't use a lot of detergent when I wash). The one thing that really affects him is having baths too often; my parents live in a hard water area and even one bath there will affect him really badly, but we can get away with giving him a couple of baths a week here - any more, and his skin starts to get very itchy.
admylin Will have to look at that Klassenarbeiten site; I still use the Abfrager one after you recommended it ages ago.
Antique Most of the mums I know here work part-time but also have grandparents on hand to help out. Even my expat friends have ILs living close by; it's quite unusual here to move very far away from where you grew up, even if you've been to university.
DD1 was very proud of herself today (as were we) as she got a 1 in her maths Schularbeit. It's the first time she's ever had a 1 in any SA; I don't think she ever got higher than a 3 in maths at primary school. We knew that she could do the maths, but she has to be in the right frame of mind - sometimes she just doesn't concentrate and read the questions properly, so often struggles with Textaufgaben.
Must get back to work... it seems to be non-stop at the moment. I was offered a large job this morning, which would have been great if it hadn't had to be done by Wednesday - as it is, I'm only able to do about a quarter of it.
I did have a lovely birthday party, thank you. Dh did a great job of organising it. The snow held off till this morning and a few weren't able to come so the house wasn't overrun.
Well done to Linzer's dd - a 1 in maths! Glad also that antique's lo is feeling better. Well done on all the purchases. V exciting about the vegan week - will be looking up that site shortly. Need some vegetarian ideas, but can't imagine giving up cheese .
Need to get ds2 down for a nap so I can make a start on my new birthday books! Have a good evening, everyone!
Sorry I am way behind.
I am married to a German and have a half German son, and neither sit down to pee - even the 5 year old doesn't make a mess though, so I don't get why adults would, unless drunk or half asleep? MIL informed the world in general over her 60th birthday meal (with about 15 adult guests) that "women" do the cleaning so "men" should sit down to pee so they don't have to clean it up, and that FIL always has to sit down and everyone who wants to "pisel" in her house knows to sit - nobody knew where to look - she doesn't even drink much so it wasn't a wine fuelled announcement! It is the reason I'd never ask DH or DS to sit though
Glad you had a good birthday Jenny.
Well done on DD's maths result Linzer
Wonder if they'll stick with the vegan week Admylin - my DS announced one day that he didn't want to eat meat as he didn't want animals to get "dead and killed" for him to eat, which I was going to respect and cater to until he announced he did still want to eat sausages and gelb wurst as they are "too yummy", at which point I rather lost sympathy - but then he was only 4 then ;) One of my sisters was veggie for 10 years, from age 14 to 24, then one morning she suddenly decided to eat sausage and bacon and wasn't any more - very odd, she still can't explain it beyond saying she just changed her mind on a whim! She's married to a very successful and fashionable local organic butcher who rears and slaughters his own meat now
I like Sebastian as a name too, we thought of it for both DS1, when DH vetoed it immediately, and then for DS2 when he liked it more, but then the older 2 had very short 2 syllable names which we like and wanted to stick with that length, plus locally Sebastian is always shortened to Basti which I don't like...
I can hear DH snoring very, very loudly from 2 floors up, which is putting me off going to bed slightly - I stayed up to answer some emails and the snoring started 5 mins after he went up...
Nuttella I am aware the count down to baby arriving is getting urgent and I haven't posted you or cake anything, I am struggling to keep up with normal life atm tbh no real excused beyond hurting my back and living with a toddler who is mostly awake, and the normal hectic bustle and laundry mountain associated with 3 small kids and a husband who does nothing at all in the house, and the bit of evening work I do which requires child free preparation... I am a bit swamped with day to day and the boxes I started sorting haven't got any fuller... but I am aware I am sitting on my bum now and could be doing it (excuse now is DS1 is asleep in the room where the stuff is, and DS2 only just fallen asleep on the sofa next to me, and I really need to be in bed too, when the snoring subsides...) Must try harder though, and I will!
Hope you get some sleep soon English. Actually I had an East German boyfriend who always sat down too. He and his two elder brothers were brought up by their widowed mother who had to work as well as look after them, so they made sure they were perfectly clean!
Funny how we all liked Sebastian but no-on used it. I agree english about not liking Basti - terrible name. My SIL's brother called their baby Leopold which is fine enough but I hope they dont nickname it Poldi - not sure whether I dislike Basti or Poldi more. Hope you got some sleep english and hope that dh of yours stopped snoring - he could be in the guiness book of world records if he's that loud!
linzer - whoo hoo on your dd's 1 in Maths. Maybe she just needed a new teacher to make it come alive. She must be really proud of herself .
witches - I only know one German man intimately enough to know what he does on the toilet and he's a sitter downer. Is this because he's East German? I've no idea. I found this so strange at first but its quite normal now. Ds1 has copied him but ds2 is defintiely a stander (and a sprayer ). Shocked at your spraying houseguest antique - that is beyond yuck from an adult. Really think your dh should say something to him.
jenny - glad you had a good birthday. Cant believe you've got snow already - doesnt seem 2 minutes since it was melting before the summer.
nutella - loved your cake obsessed post - thats what being pregnant is for! To eat cake with no guilt attached.
admylin - thanks for those website recommendations. Thankfully she's only got an English test this week - think her friends are using her as a study aid!
We booked our wee skiing trip last night - we're going cross country skiing again in the mountains an hour from us - just need to keep everythign crossed that we get some snow this year. But we're going back to the place we went the first year and the snow was a metre deep then so I'm remaining optimistic. There's also some downwhill in the next town so might organise the dc some lessons while we're there (and have a few runs myself).
Just time for a quick catch-up while I have a coffee break. Coffee definitely needed today as DH had another early flight to catch; his alarm went off at 5 am and it hardly seemed worth going back to sleep afterwards. Sadly forgot to ask DH about Austrian men's toilet habits before he left, so I have nothing interesting to report on that front.
Ploom I did think a couple of years ago that I should learn to ski, but have now decided that I'm definitely too old! Plus I don't like cold weather, exercise etc. and have a million and one other excuses. I do feel a bit left out in skiing conversations, however, as I can't contribute much more than "I went cross-country skiing once 20 years ago". (Our neighbours were having a discussion about skiing styles, different types of skis, etc. at the weekend.)
English I misread your post and wondered why you'd be posting cake to Nutella before her baby arrives! Although I had a real sweet tooth when I was pregnant with DD2, so wouldn't have complained if someone had posted me cake.
Jenny at you having snow already. Didn't you have it for months longer than us at the start of the year?
Jenny sorry I missed your birthday! Good to hear you had a nice time! I got books for my birthday and I was so excited to have some new books to read
Linzer so jealous of you having DVDs of HaveIGNFY to watch! Always so funny And very well done to your DD! I bet she is pleased as punch to have a surprise 1
English honestly there is no pressure or rush to send us stuff, although if you have some cake lying around.... With your sore back and busy schedule I'd rather you have a lay down and a nice than go rummaging through boxes!!
Ploom thanks for the guilt free cake advice <rushes off to the kitchen to get butter and eggs out for later> - oh and do you have self raising flour? is there such a thing in Germany? I just use plain flour (have found 405 works well) and add baking powder... I thought 550 was more for bread
The bean has been crazy active lately! Even the midwife at the Geburtsvorbereitungskurs (sp?) last night had a feel because he wouldn't give me any peace and I obviously kept pulling faces... of course as soon as anyone lays a hand on bump - DP is the only exception- it's lights out and snooooze in there!
DP also didn't help last night by pointing out the fact that he not only has a big head but also big broad shoulders (if only I didn't love that "rugby player" shape so much ) so now I'm starting to worry!
Witches have you seen ecoballs for sale in Germany? I've seen them and used them, nifty little things, in the UK but haven't seen them here. Was also a little last night to hear washable nappies not being recommended by midwife.... apparently there used to be a nappy exchange scheme but it no longer exists and that the difference environmentally speaking is in favour of disposables . I thought it was a rather fine line, but that it also depends on washing method etc. Ah well... I will keep looking into it but I think at least the first few weeks/months will be disposables while DP and I are busy trying to figure out which way is up
But thanks for general washing advice!!! - I mean detergent... if someone wanders on here now they'll be a bit at me needing washing advice.... I better go... my posts are becoming massive!
Hello everyone. This thread is so busy it´s taken me 2 days to catch up and finally find time to post.
We had a lovely holiday - much better than we expected. A lovely hotel with great food and got back here to the added bonus of blue skies and sunshine.
Happy belated birthday jenny. I´m always really excited about the first snow of the year, but the novelty soon wears off.
Linzer Well done to your dd, she must be so proud of herself. Watch out or you´ll be turning into an einser mama before you know it .
nutella I think it´s recommended not to use fabric conditioner if you suffer from eczema, but other than that I´m afraid I don´t know.
Dh is a sitter downer and gets more annoyed than me if we have visitors who spray. He even wanted to put a sign up telling people to sit, but I thought that was a step to far.
Sorry to anyone I´ve forgotten. I´ve finally found time to post and have forgotten half of what I read yesterday.
hupa at your DH putting a sign up. Glad you enjoyed your holiday; it must be nice to get away at this time of year. I really feel in need of a break - and slightly sunnier climes - at the moment. (Oh, and please warn me if I show the slightest sign of turning into an Einser-Mama! I'd never mention DD2's grades as she's never had any problems at school, but a 1 is a huge achievement for DD1.)
Nutella I've just had a look through the DVDs I've finished with but unfortunately there aren't any with HIGNFY on them. Maybe someone else has some though, if you'd like any? My DVDs do the rounds of the thread, starting off with Ploom, then admylin and I think Antique has also had a few. They're probably all rather out of date now, but I still find HIGNFY very funny.
(Btw do you still want me to send you some DVDs Ploom or have you got enough to watch now that you've discovered the filmon website? I have a few that I could send you, or anyone else who's interested.)
Nutella I have a batch of Linzer's dvds with some HIGNFY on. If you want to PM me your details I'd be happy to post them on to you.
Our guest is leaving in an hour or so. I mentioned the toilet lid issue to DH last night and said he'd noticed too but didn't know whether to say anything. In the end we both dithered for so long that it hardly seems worth it now he's going.
(To add to the survey - DH is a sitter-downer )
Hello to everyone! Just having my last sachet of Cadbury's hot chocolate while DS naps. Mmmmmmm!
Antique I will definitely be sending you a PM! Thank you!! At least I'll have a really good excuse to lounge in front of the telly soon + mat leave = super fantasticness!!
I always pick up green & black's cocoa (can't explain why but find it more chocolatey than most other cocoa powder ... cake and chocolate obsessed) in England and have been in a hot chocolate mood lately... also really fancy rice pudding... might make some tonight since DP is away in Nürnberg for the night...
Hupa at DP's oldest brother's house they actually have a sign stuck to the flush button of the guest toilet giving the instruction to sit... I wonder if BIL or SIL put it up....
DP sits because he says when he lived on his own or with other guys cleaning the toilet when one of you don't sit was just too disgusting - I'm not complaining I'll do a survey this weekend (visiting lots of friends in Nürnberg) and let you know next week.. I hope someone is keeping a spreadsheet so we can scientifically judge this later.
I told an american teacher at work today that I only have another 9 weeks to go and he seemed really that I could still work... He was nice though and did the expected ask about names etc.
I just have the one sachet of cadbury's left too antique!
Glad you had a lovely holiday hupa. Still trying to persuade dh to go somewhere sunny over Thanksgiving week.
If anyone is missing HIGNIFY then I can recommend the news quiz on radio 4's Friday night comedy. It broadcasts at 6.30 in the UK but I obviously download it from iplayer. Very funny. Love the Now Show too with Hugh Dennis from Outnumbered.
Very exciting about the ski trip ploom! Whereabouts are you going? I must book dd and ds1's skiing lessons soon, before the Saturday classes are full up.
Nutella, I must have missed when you joined. Are you teaching in Germany? Is your dp German? Is this your first baby? So exciting!
Your MIL sounds slightly nuts English!
Hope you have made it through the day Linzer. Dh had to get up v early Sunday morning to take next door and his Mum to the airport. She doesn't speak any English so he was flying with her to SFO to get the flight back to China. Felt slightly fuzzy all day.
Am going to volunteer in dd's school this morning. Have put ds2 into the same daycare as ds1 one morning a week so I can do this, which I do feel guilty about. It is just a few hours though. Ho-hum.
Have a good evening, everyone!
Have just got the DC off to bed so am about to start work for the evening, although I suspect I'll be flagging in an hour or two. Or possibly in around half an hour...
Jenny Friday night comedy on Radio 4 is great, isn't it? DH and I often listen to it in the car if we're going on a longish journey - well, we try and listen, but no matter how quiet and well-behaved the DC are beforehand, they usually end up arguing noisily as soon I put a podcast on. We often used to go and watch the News Quiz being recorded when we lived in London, as we lived just round the corner from the BBC recording studios.
Nutella It's surprising that an American would be as I would have thought they'd have less maternity leave than the Germans. A friend of mine who lived in the USA only had six weeks off after her DS was born, although she persuaded her boss to let her work from home for the next six weeks as well.
Antique We had a male visitor once who was worse than your visitor - even DH noticed. I won't go into detail, however, in case anyone is eating!
Was also going to say that you really shouldn't feel guilty, Jenny - I'm sure your DS will have a great time and, like you say, it's only for a couple of hours a week.
One of the nurses at our GP practice had two weeks off after having her baby and that was all her vacation time for the year. I couldn't believe that a medical practice could be so stingy with its staff. I think her dh looked after the baby. Hope you managed to get some work done Linzer!
jenny don't feel guilty about your ds, I'm sure your dd will love having you at school and your ds will have a great time. From my short visit in Texas I got the impression that the childcare was great and the dc somehow more looked after than here in Germany.
At dd's kindergarden they used the technique of learning by doing but that also meant that they refused to help a crying toddler to put her slippers on - she knows fine well that she can do it she's just being lazy or served up a dry crust from breakfast at lunch time because he took it so he has to finish it all.
nutella maternity leave is great, enjoy your last few weeks of sleeping when you want to! Have you found a cot yet?
I can imagine dd and I going vegan but the 2 men in the house won't even consider going vegetarian. Dd has started looking at cosmetic alternatives too. Quite difficult to know which ones are 'safe' so she's researching. She reckons Lush advertise as being OK but their prices are so high in Germany (much higher than in UK). Anyway, she's bought herself some soap and shower stuff with her birthday money!
Got ds's indoor trainers yesterday, size 44! He's 14 and a half so I'm thinking he might stay at that shoe size for quite a while? I know I had my adult shoe size 39 when I was 15 so live in hope!
I finally got my work finished just before midnight (a late night for me) and really didn't want to get up this morning, but a run with my neighbour has just woken me up. How can almost half the morning be gone already, though?
Jenny at the nurse only having two weeks off!
admylin I started buying cruelty-free cosmetics when I was about your DD's age (which was when I became a vegetarian as well); I don't know what's happened to my principles over the years. It's so much easier and cheaper to buy cruelty-free products in the UK. Having said that, M&S don't test on animals any more and you can buy their cosmetics online - they're fairly reasonably priced and I think they even have 10% off at the moment.
linzer how do you manage to stay awake so late?! Have you had alot of extra work recently? Thanks for the tip. I will tell dd to have a look on the website.
Latest job offer that dh found is in Houston. I really don't want to live there (it's far too humid and hot) but he's applying anyway. Anything to have the chance of a permanent position.
Did your DH hear anything about the job in Graz, admylin?
Once I'm on the computer I'm OK, but I really have to force myself to go upstairs and start work in the evening. Then I tend to wake up at around 11pm/midnight and really have to force myself to go to bed, as I know I'll just feel awful in the morning otherwise. Work has been really busy recently so I've been working quite a bit in the evenings and at weekends - it's either that or I have nothing at all to do; there never seems to be a happy medium. I think I've earned more in the last month than in the previous six months put together.
No, I think the applications are open until some time in November for Graz. He just got turned down for one in Australia (thank goodness - think of the massive spiders over there) which he was abit fed up about. Two of his colleagues have got jobs over there at the moment and love it - one of them actually studies spider venom and goes out into the bush to collect it I shudder at the thought of it.
The Houston application doesn't have to be in before December. I'm still living in hope that he gets an offer for the one in Canada that is still open.
You'll be able to enjoy spending all the money you've earned on the past few weeks atleast!
admylin!! I love Australia; although I'm not sure I'd want to live there forever. My Mum actually lived in a relative bush area in Western Australia for two years and she went on a first aid course but it was mostly explanations and pictures of what was venomous and what to do if you saw it. I realise that doesn't help at all with your spider problem... sorry...
I use Liz Earle products - not because they are totally non animal tested <sorry> - but because they are fab and seem to keep my eczema in check.. until pregnant. But I don't think they're vegan.
I have an american friend here Linzer so I know that in the states maternity leave is rather non-existent, which was also why this guys comments seemed odd. But I think it also made the whole pregnancy imminent baby thing suddenly feel much more real
But jenny 2 weeks that is not long enough! My Mum said she was back at work after 10 days after me but she was working from home as a child minder so it's not so extreme...
Hi Jenny I joined the thread a couple of months ago- Yes I work as a teacher in Germany but I can't always say that what I do is teaching (yesterday z.B was haaaard work!) My DP is German - I met him in New Zealand... as you do and yes this is my first baby. Yes it is exciting and in equal amounts terrifying!
Nutella I started working again when the DC were about 4-5 weeks old but only on a very part-time basis and from home. There's no way I could imagine going back into a full-time job outside the house after 6 weeks. Actually, I can't imagine doing so even now; I've got too used to being my own boss and to working part-time!
admylin I wouldn't fancy Australia either, but mainly because it's just such a distance from all our family and friends here. A friend of mine is in Canada and I always thought it sounded like a wonderful place to live, but he's moving back because they find the winters too harsh (am sure it depends whereabouts in Canada you are, though). Where's the job that your DH has applied for?
Just the quickest of fly by's from me as I am in my lunchbreak.
Baerlauch is wild garlic.
If you are after non mainstream cosmetics ( ie organic, vegetarian, etc) you could try a Reformhaus rather than a Drogerie or Apotheke. Not sure about vegan products but I remember the selection as excellent (admittedly goes back a long time). They may not do the fancy logos on the packaging, so it might be worthwhile to check the small print. Reformhaus used to be great for giving out samples, too. They may also help with advice re washing powder, etc for sensitive skin/eczema. There must also be Vegan websites in German where you might get better advice.
Good luck Nutella and enjoy the mat leave. Don't rush around to the last minute if you can help it; I scheduled a nap in the late afternoon or a quick lie down for 10 minutes or so and it made such a difference to me. Rather than being knackered and ready for bed by 8pm I would last another hour or two and have energy to cook and clean. I worked full time up to Christmas with my first and gave birth early Jan, so definitively needed the rest.
on my lunchbreak even.... so wish there was a facility to correct ...
Nutella, I've not looked for EcoBalls here, I brought mine over, with new stony things which are still going.
admylin, Lush stuff contains SLSes, worth reading up on and deciding if you want to still use it.
Sante and Lavera are two toiletry companies whose products we use, paraben/SLS-free, and labelled vegan (not all of Lavera stuff is vegan, but they do clearly state which products are). Oh, and Alviana. Available in Alnatura, and maybe DM.
Make up, I use Beauty Without Cruelty or Arbonne, though the latter is a pita to buy as you have to buy from a rep, it's not in stores.
linzer - I'm happy for you to pass the DVD's onto nutella but is it cheeky to ask for some the next time you've got a bundle? I do watch some things on Filmon but I'm often exhausted by 10pm and thats when most of the good stuff starts. But we're still working thro a box set at the moment so I'm more than happy to miss this bundle of DVD's. Your a star for passing them on - think its funny that the DVDs do a whole tour of Germany after they come to me. Did you get all your work done? I agree with admylin - I'd struggle to be awake at midnight working.
nutella - Had heard that discussion that studies have shown that cloth nappies were no more environmentally friendly than disposables but had wondered who funded the research? We used disposables for all 3 dc despite investigating cloth nappies thoroughly before dc1 came along. By the time dc 2 & 3 came along, I struggled to keep up with the washing as it was never mind adding nappies to it.
After the large flour conversation on FB - I dont have SR flour here. I just use normal plain flour and add British baking powder if I'm making a British recipe and Backpulver if its a German one. I keep badgering dh that we need to have a trip in the car to the UK and think SR flour might be one of the things I bring back.
hupa - glad you had a good holiday.
jenny - dont worry about your ds2 - I'm sure he'll be fine.
admylin - your ds has a size 44 shoe?!?!?! Thats bigger than my dh. But I can see that happening to my ds1 - he's in a 39 already and he's only 8! Good luck with these job applications for your dh - do ysou ever get any feedback from the ones he doesnt get?
To add to the mat leave conversation - my FIL is in Hong Kong covering a woman's mat leave - they got there in the middle of August and she hadnt had her baby yet and she was supposed to be back at work full time in the middle of October so the baby would only have been 5 or 6 weeks old. How does that help mum or baby? But she told the school the other week that she couldnt come back so early as she was having problems establishing feeding (no surprise) so my FIL is working till the middle of November now - I'll be impressed if my IL's come back before Christmas.
Need to tell the funny story from ds2 - he came home from school yesterday and said that him and 3 other dc from his class had been taken to the "clownzimmer". Well some of you probably remember how much trouble I had with him in kiga so my instant thought was "what have you done??". He's a changed child since starting school - there hasnt been a hint of trouble in 6 weeks but it was still my first thought. Turned out its just called the Clownzimmer cause its got a clown on the door - he'd been taken there to see what level his reading was at! So it went from panic as to whether he'd been naughty to being proud cause the teacher has noticed he can read a bit. He was so chuffed that he had been given extra reading homework - think the whole issue at kiga was boredom altho not sure how I could have changed that.
Off to skype with a friend now before the window man comes to measure our window that we're having replaced. Have a fun day .
Well, I did finish my work... only for some more to arrive a couple of hours later. It's actually fairly interesting for once - lesson plans and worksheets for primary school children - and Jenny has been a great help with school-related American English (I had no idea what an exercise book is called in the US, for example). It's very handy to know someone who's familiar with both American English and German.
at the Clownzimmer Ploom - you must have been very relieved, not to mention proud. It's amazing what a difference starting school can make, isn't it? DS loves school and is far happier than when he was at KiGa, and DH said he was exactly the same.
I'm happy to send the DVDs on to whoever wants them - they'll be a bit out of order as I've lent a few to a friend in Graz, but I don't think it matters for most of the programmes. Would it be easiest to send them to you admylin, so that we keep to the same order? (Providing you'd like some more.)
Witches I was amazed to get a shower gel in last month's Glossybox that was both paraben-free and not tested on animals - very progessive for here! But then I looked more closely and saw that it was made in the UK.
Bienchen I just can't get the translation of Bärlauch to stick in my head; I'm sure I must look it up once a month! I think it's because it's fairly common here but I've never come across wild garlic in the UK.
We have a shop very similar to Alnatura, which stocks a good range of skincare products but no make-up and it's all . The only place I can think of here to buy make-up is the Body Shop, but I find it expensive enough in the UK and it's even more so here. I did get a couple of things from there for my birthday though, which was a nice treat.
Right, must get back to work... I have the feeling that coffee will be needed before too long.
Linzer at the moment our dvd player and the one in my PC are on strike so until they are fixed/replaced I can't watch dvds - well, I could on the laptops but the dc wouldn't be too pleased about my choice of viewing! If nutella wants them she should maybe make the most of her last few weeks of actually having time to watch!
The job we're waiting for in Canada is in Montreal at McGill University. I would quite like being in the French speaking part of Canada and the uni is an English speaking one so OK for dh.
ploom The only feeback dh gets from the Absagen is that so many applied or that he's highly qualified but they got applications from even more highly qualified people etc. I know these good jobs are getting hundreds of applications.
Yep, size 44 in Addidas and Puma shoes and size 43 in his other winter shoes so I'd say he's between the two sizes! I think he's reached his end size though (surely?)! Dd is inbetween a 38 and 39 and has been for a year so I'm expecting that to change sometime soon.
witches I've found the Alverde stuff in DM shop atleast claims to use all natural stuff and not to use animal testing. They say only their shampoo with honey isn't vegan! Dd is only starting to show an interest in make-up since a few months ago so she wants to try their make-up brand and atleast it's affordable for her.
Rossmann has the Alterra brand that is safe if it has a green sunflower seed on the packaging. Anyway, that's where we're going to start at the weekend and get some shampoo and shower gel atleast.
Must go and wake dd as she's going swimming with her friend so she wants to have breakfast and have time to digest before she goes!
Wanted to go out walking this morning but its pouring down outside and now I cant get motivated to get out my dressing gown .
admylin - thats frustrating about the jobs. I imagine your dh is ridiculously highly qualified in his field so what kind of further qualifications have the other candidates got? Is it also about published research? I really feel for him and you too as its so unsettling to not know where you're going to be living in the future - I remember this feeling so clearly when dh was looking for jobs in the UK. Have got everything crossed that a great post comes up soon.
linzer - think of all the nice things you can buy with all that hard earned pay . Have you got any nice plans for the Nationalfeiertag today? So glad your ds has settled in well at school - its going to me a much better year for all of us .
I got talking to a woman when I was at handball with the boys yesterday - her dh was from somewhere in Africa and they loved all things british and we had a right nice chat about things we miss. She recommended this website for ordering British food etc and it seems a little bit more reasonable than the other websites I've looked at it in the past. The products always seems expensive but as I said to dh its not as expensive as a weekend in the UK! So I ordered some bits - cant wait for that parcel to come .
Meant to ask you all yesterday - I took dd to the KFO on Wednesday and she was complaining that a bit of her gum was sore. The KFO looked at it and said it was an Afte?!?!?! I presumed he meant a mouth ulcer but I cannot find this word in any dictionary so I'm still none the wiser. Does anyone know which word he meant?
Wanted to go out walking this morning but its pouring down outside and now I cant get motivated to get out my dressing gown .
admylin - thats frustrating about the jobs. I imagine your dh is ridiculously highly qualified in his field so what kind of further qualifications have the other candidates got? Is it also about published research? I really feel for him and you too as its so unsettling to not know where you're going to be living in the future - I remember this feeling so clearly when dh was looking for jobs in the UK. Have got everything crossed that a great post comes up soon.
linzer - think of all the nice things you can buy with all that hard earned pay . Have you got any nice plans for the Nationalfeiertag today? So glad your ds has settled in well at school - its going to me a much better year for all of us .
I got talking to a woman when I was at handball with the boys yesterday - her dh was from somewhere in Africa and they loved all things british and we had a right nice chat about things we miss. She recommended this website for ordering British food etc and it seems a little bit more reasonable than the other websites I've looked at it in the past. The products always seems expensive but as I said to dh its not as expensive as a weekend in the UK! So I ordered some bits - cant wait for that parcel to come .
Meant to ask you all yesterday - I took dd to the KFO on Wednesday and she was complaining that a bit of her gum was sore. The KFO looked at it and said it was an Afte?!?!?! I presumed he meant a mouth ulcer but I cannot find this word in any dictionary so I'm still none the wiser. Does anyone know which word he meant?
What happened there? The site was offline the first time I tried to post!
Just a very quick post as we're off to Bratislava this morning - I'll catch up properly later when I'm back on the computer for work (can't get away with spending too much time on MN with DH around!).
Ploom He probably meant Aphthe, which is just a mouth ulcer. Very annoying things, though; DS was complaining of one recently.
DH has just got back from the baker's, so must go... they'd already sold out of a lot of things (no bread left at all) at 9 am!
Have a great shopping trip linzer tell us what you got (shopping deprived)!
Hope the ulcer is better soon ploom. Could the KFO give her anything for it? Which stage of the treatment is your dd at at the moment?
I still haven't quite understood what my 2 are getting. I know they're having a piece fixed across the top of their mouth to push the teeth back and then the fixed ones along the top and bottom teeth. The KFO also managed to sell me some sort of plastic bit that stops the top teeth catching on the bottom brace but I have a feeling it's not really needed as the Krankenkasse doesn't pay for it.
The main thing that is stopping dh getting a job is research money. If he managed to get some funding in his name and even better some funding that he could take with him to a new job then he'd be welcomed with open arms but at the moment he has so much work to do for students and his 2 bosses that he has only submitted 2 funding grant applications and those would be tied to this place anyway. Still, would be good if he could prove he is capable of getting funding.
Good website! what did you indulge in? I'm tempted by the marmite, haven't had any for ages.
Hope you have a fab shopping day linzer - you wont be needing that website (and the shipping to Austria from it is 13.50 ). Thanks for the mouth ulcer word - would never have thought it'd be spelt like that.
admylin - the KFO just put some Salbe on it and I put some bonjella on it at home. She's still wearing her brace at night at the moment and there is no discussion thankfully about changing it to a fixed one. I think her teeth look great already but we'll still keep going! I understand how frustrating it is to keep going and not know the plan but trust the KFO - he'll have a plan! Annoying tho when you end up paying for things that the krankenkasse doesnt.
I bought some bars of dairymilk, some fruit pastilles for dd that I might keep hidden till christmas, some baking powder, gravy granules and a bottle of robinsons squash. Think I paid just over 20 euros which seemed ok since there was a few of some of the things. We dont have any trips to the UK planned this year or any visitors so I needed a fix of chocolate .
I wonder why they don't have squash in Germany? That's always one of the things I buy when I go to an English shop or order online. I have bought from the food from home website in the past).
A few English sweets are also part of Chritmas pressies in this house too!
ploom Thanks for the link to the website. I´ll have a browse when I´ve got a minute.
Linzer Have a great time shopping. You can come and make us all jealous with your M&S buys later.
I thought of you on our flight back from Turkey. The airline obviously hadn´t used a native speaker to translate their in-flight magazine. I tried to read an article about amnesia, but gave up after the first couple of paragraphs as the English was so awful.
admylin we´re about to start on the KFO with ds. His mouth is really too small for his adult teeth to come through. Unfortunately the KFO who everybody reccomends is retiring at the end of the year, so we need to find a new one. No point starting a treatment with someone who won´t be able to continue.
We´re of to Dachau to visit my brother this weekend. His twins are now 5 months old and I haven´t seen them for a few months, so I should see a few changes. Snow is forecast for Saturday, so I´ve had dig out our gloves, hats and scarves. I´m hoping we can have a relaxing weekend inside - I don´t fancy venturing out in the cold.
OMG - its actually snowing! The rain went to sleet an hour ago but its now full on snow. I'm so shocked - last Saturday I was watching ds2 play football without a jacket on so I dont feel ready for snow! I dont even have my winter tyres on the car - oh no!
Hope the snow doesn't interfere with the trip to Dachau Ploom. Our snow started this week too and we haven't changed our tyres yet. I always worry about dh cycling in the snow, especially when everyone has summer tyres on. Hope the ulcer is better soon.
Your dh deserves much better luck admylin. I hope it changes soon and he gets something great where you would all enjoy living.
of M&S. I ordered some stuff
knickers to be delivered to my dps' local store which they brought out with them. Much cheaper than being delivered here!
Speaking of vegetarian, I made a lovely tomato and aubergine curry last night with dh's veg from the garden. Will have to roast up a load more tomatoes that are ripening on the dining room table and freeze them!
Hope you all have a lovely Friday evening and weekend!
Oooh Dachau Hupa - we're only half an hour's drive from there! I shall wave at you (maybe a bit away far for that) Have fun indoors with the twins
We have loads of snow - about 15 cm or so and still falling gently. I think its lovely I do get sick of it by February, especially having to scrape the car and shovel and grit the pavement, but the first snow of the year is always exciting and beautiful, and it beats fog and rain hands down My 2 bigger kids love snow and have been asking since their birthdays at the end of September when it's going to snow, they love to sledge and build snowmen etc and get so excited. They aren't here though They are at Oma and Opa's - they go for a night or two most school holidays - Oma and Opa live too far away to go there much in term time and the children only stay over in the holidays party becasue they love to and for the grandparents to spend some time with them, and partly so I can catch up on jobs - mainly cleaning which I find so hard with a toddler with me 24/7; this is the 3rd time DC3 has stayed over night but he waved and called "Bye-bye Tchuß" totally happily in Oma's arms... I so need the couple of full night's sleep as it's so rare for the littlest to sleep through, and even when he does he is always up by 5.30am, but it's a bit sad missing seeing him playing in the snow for the first time - he was too little last year (I sat him on a sledge on flat ground and on the snow in his snowsuit for a little explore and picture but he was only 6 months old this time last year). I am making good use of the child free time cleaning and sorting, so cake and Nutella I should finally have boxes packed for you by the end of tomorrow I hope (I know cake is on a MN break but sometimes people on breaks lurk )
Hope you had fun in Bratislava Linzer and glad your DS is so happy at school - we're keeping Ds1 out til he's nearly 7 (September 30th is the cut off here and his birthday is late Sept) he likes Kindergarten now so I have to hope he still will next year... Of course now the decision is made Kindergarten keep informing me how much he has grown up over the summer holiday, how he is now very mature etc (he isn't at home ) ... oh well, I still think it'S right for him...
Ooops got to post before my laptop dies as got a low battery warning and this is too long already - waves at everyone else!!
Hope everyone has had a good weekend and not too many disruptions caused by snow. We had a sprinkling this morning; it's all melted now, but more is forecast for tomorrow. You have a much higher snow tolerance threshold than me, English; it doesn't take me more than a day to two before I get thoroughly fed up with it! It's fine when you're at home and the children enjoy playing out in it, but is a real pain when you have to go anywhere not within walking distance (or even when you do walk, as the cleared pavements are often very slippery). We don't have our winter tyres on yet either, Ploom; DH made an appointment for 2nd November a couple of weeks ago, so hopefully we won't have too much snow before then. He initially told me I wouldn't be allowed to drive if it does snow, but then changed his mind and decided that it's OK before the start of November.
English I'm sure you've made the right decision; I think it's far better to keep a child back a year, even if you run the slight risk that they might be bored at KiGa, than to risk them starting before they're quite ready. We haven't regretted keeping DS back for an instant and I think boys especially benefit from a later starting date.
Jenny I'm wondering how much longer I'll be able to carry on cycling for; I probably won't risk it in the snow, at any rate. Your curry sounded delicious; we're having (takeaway) curry here tonight and finally have naan again after our trip to M&S.
hupa Hope you had a good trip to Dachau; your brother's twins must be getting to a nice age now.
I can never stop myself comparing translations; we went to the Technisches Museum today and some of the information was really well translated, while some of it was just awful! I always think it would be interesting to translate an in-flight magazine; Lufthansa's is usually quite well translated IIRC.
admylin I thought about you when I was looking at the squash in M&S; we didn't buy any, though (just a bottle of sherry drinks-wise!). We also bought hot cross buns (DH will eat them at any time of year!), some herbs and spices, biscuits, tea, naan, some Christmas crackers and an autumnal wreath for our front door. Plus some household stuff and clothes at Tesco; I can usually find clothes I like - for both myself and the DC - there, whereas I really struggle in Austria (and it's much cheaper at Tesco too).
Ploom I looked at that website and the first thing I saw was Twinings Everyday Tea for 12.50. But have just looked again and that was for 160 tea bags; 80 tea bags only cost 2.79 - how does that work?!? You're right, though; it's still much cheaper than a trip back to the UK.
Must go as I've just finished proofreading my translation and now need to go and test DD1 on her English vocab as she has a test tomorrow.
We had a lovely time in Dachau and lots of snow. We didn´t actually do very much, but had a great time catching up. The twins were really lovely. They were at that stage of wanting to crawl, but not knowing how to do it, so laying on floor and frantically shaking their legs behind them. If you´ve got babies/children who don´t sleep then don´t read any further or you will be . They go to bed at 8pm and then sleep through until they have to be woken at 8am. I don´t think either of my dc ever achieved that even once.
English Hopefully you enjoyed your weekend and feel a bit more rested. Have you still got snow or has it all melted?
ploom That site has so many lovely things on it. I think I might treat myself to an order before Christmas.
Linzer I think the airline used the same translator for the website. Here is an example.
Jenny I´ve forgotten exactly where abouts you are, but I´m assuming not in an area likely to be affected by the hurricane. I imaginr with that and the election there´s not much else being reported at the moment.
I better go and catch up on all the jobs that I put off doing during the Herbstfereien.
I've just finished proofreading the first of my two translations, so can finally allow myself a bit of MNing time.
hupa I see what you mean about the translation! It's frustrating to see how much companies will spend on professional-looking advertising, websites, etc. but don't seem bothered about whether the text is written in decent English (or whatever language).
Glad you enjoyed your weekend. I don't think any of mine slept that long when they were 15 months, let alone 5 months. In fact, they rarely sleep until 8 am even now. DD1 and DS were outside playing in the snow this morning at 6.30 am, having got themselves up, dressed and breakfasted - although I suppose the fact that they get themselves up is key. They don't usually disturb us when they get up at the weekend either; they only come and wake us when they get very hungry, as DH always goes to the baker's at the weekend. Having said that, we could probably send them to the baker's themselves (they've been on their own occasionally); would just have to make sure they have the money etc. ready the night before!
Blimey hupa I'm still 8 weeks ish off popping with my first and I'm already that those twins sleep so long... perhaps they wear each other out ...
English I hope you had a chance to put your feet up and get a good nights sleep!
Linzer and hupa I'm not doing translations - yet- but that link you put up made my eyes hurt trying to read it!
Anyway, I'm just MNing while waiting for the paint to dry have given the baby-ecke another coat in parts. Two friends came and helped last week and we got loads done, I was so amazed! Totally thrilled at the help people have given us! The colour is green and I've used a nice fresh pale green for two walls and the other is a darker more apple green. I'm really pleased!
We went to Nüremberg on Friday and had a busy weekend catching up with friends. Even though there was a warning of bad weather (mostly from FIL
who knows everything better ) we drove down on Friday and back on Sunday and didn't have any problems! We got a bit soggy in the snow around town on Saturday but it was bearable.
I really enjoyed being there and find it a really pretty, atmospheric place to be. It holds some special memories for DP and I too I'm sure I'll always remember my first trip to Germany to meet him. It was just before Christmas, he had got home from New Zealand that week and it felt like we had already waited forever to see each other. Being in Nüremberg, at the Christmas Market and walking up to the castle and looking out at the city in the snow was all really magical...
Ah well... best go and see how my paint is doing
Nuttella just PMed you
I find the snow has to be really severe or unexpected to cause problems here, the roads are usually absolutely fine as they are properly treated before the snow falls and ploughed too if necessary. Not had a problem with slippery pavements either as people salt after they shovel (ruins your gloves though, I am not organised enough to have specific salting gloves...)
Battery running out again and need to get to the shops...
Those sleepy twins will be horrible teens in revenge, whilst my non sleepers will be angelic, just wait and see (I don't think I have ever deliberately woken a baby in my life and only my 7 year old occasionally sleeps 12 hours - which she didn't start doing til she was 5 or 6 I count sleeping "through" as 7.30pm til 5am, which she did from 2 and DS1 from 10 months, and DS2 still rarely achieves at 18 months!)
english how is your back? Are you feeling lost yet without your dc around?
nutella sounds like you had a great time in Nüremberg! Well done on getting the painting done too. Now you can set all the baby stuff up ready and just sit back and wait for the big day!
linzer that's great that your 2 dds get on and just get themselves up and dressed to play out!
hupa we can exchange experiences about the braces when you get your ds started on his! Not sure about where you are but we had to wait months for the first appointment here in Hannover and then months again for the treatment plan. In Berlin we only had a couple of weeks to wait then the treatment just started with no fancy sales talk about what we can pay for to get better/quicker results.
jenny hope you aren't any where near Sandy. Sounds quite scary when they close mega cities down like that.
First vegan day went down well here. It's only dd and I doing it but ds didn't say no to the lunch I made (best mushroom sauce I've ever made too) but dd was a bit fed up at her brother eating freshly toasted brioche at breakfast time and she couldn't find any sweets to buy at the shops!
OMG I have just found out from the neighbour downstairs that a man committed suicide in our cellar 2 weeks ago. The cellar door has a police sticker on it and there's sawdust sprinkled on the floor. She said it was a friend of two young men who live on the 1st floor.
admylin that is terribly grissly news to hear! What a sad thing to have happened ... but great that vegan day1 went well... I had porridge for breakfast - no idea if oats are vegan - but I find made with water it is quite ok (although I like to soak it for a while before cooking it)... oh and I put a bit of dark chocolate and cocoa powder on it this morning so probably not too vegan friendly... sorry I'm definitely no help
I highly recommend Nürnberg (I mixed up the English and German spellings before... oops!) for a weekend visit, loads of cosy cafés, nice restaurants and some decent museums which aren't too pricey (comparatively speaking). At Christmas time, especially when snowy, I find the market is really gemütlich despite the cold and definitely worth the crowds.
DP also had winter tyres put on before driving down so he was a little bit <smug emoticon> ... I mean pleased with himself
Hello all! Glad lovely weekends have been had and the snow has not been a major issue. No, fortunately we are 3000 miles further west than Sandy! We have an issue with wild fires here and the volcano might erupt at some stage but other than snow storms we don't have that kind of extreme weather, fortunately. I hope everyone is ok though.
Our clocks haven't gone back yet so I am only 8 hours behind the rest of you! Ds2 is having a nap so I have a chance to catch up
MN for a while before I fetch the others. Hope you have all had a nice evening and a good Tuesday.
Sorry about the suicide, admylin. I read that quite a while before I posted and put it out of my head. Sorry.
Jenny It's good you're not affected by Sandy at all; it all sounds very scary. It's supposed to be passing over the area where we used to live and apparently there are empty shelves at the supermarket because everyone's stocking up.
Nutella I really like Nuremberg, although haven't been for years. We took my parents to the Christmas market there when we were living in Germany, and it wasn't half as crowded as I was expecting it to be.
admylin What an awful thing to have happened, and how sad.
English The snow clearing is obviously more efficient where you are! Not everyone grits the pavements here and, although the snow ploughs are out and about in the early hours and do grit the roads, not all of the smaller roads get cleared as quickly and the roads still get slippery if the snow is still falling. I'm just glad we don't have a pushchair any more as I would end up having to lift it over huge piles of snow at the sides of the road if I wanted to cross the road; there's usually only enough snow cleared for a person without a pushchair to get through! Parking can still be a nightmare though, as you have to negotiate all the snow piled up by the ploughs.
But anyway, all the roads and pavements are clear again today so I'm not complaining too much at the moment.
Back to work now - I'm hoping to have this job finished today so that I can have a "free morning" to catch up on everything I've neglected (washing, tidying, etc.) before the long weekend.
Oh, and while I remember, does anyone want any DVDs? If not, I'll keep them to pass on to you at some point Ploom.
Just sneaking some MN time before we leave to drive (an hour) to a big soft play place. Its a right miserable day (dreich as we say in Scotland) so a perfect day for them to run around inside. Still wonder why you dont find soft play places as often as in the UK but I do think they always seem bigger here (and dont smell of wee!).
linzer - you've got a lot of work on at the moment but hopefully none as tricky as the link hupa posted - that made me eyes sore! I'll happily take the DVDs if no-one else wants them first. It might just take me a while to watch them and pass them on. Say thanks to your brother from all of us .
admylin - thats so sad and so upsetting for everyone involved that someone commited suicide in your cellar. How awful as well for the person that found him. Can I ask where your dd buys her shoes/boots? I'm struggling to get dd a pair of Stiefel or Stiefeletten - they're all to wide for her skinny wee legs since she needs an adult size. Have spent too much time this weekend looking (not helped by the fact she's beyond fussy0.
english - wow you definitely had a lot more snow than us. Ours hasnt completely melted but I'm sure todays rain will melt the last bits. They are efficient here at clearing the roads when there's a lot of snow but they end up making big piles at the side of the road like by linzer which means 2 cars cant pass each other. Did you enjoy your few days peace and quiet and most importantly did you enjoy the sleep??
Aw nutella its your turn to be all soppy. What a romantic description of you meeting your dp in Nuremberg. I've only been into the Stadt once 11 years ago and it wasnt winter. Maybe dh and I should persuade the IL's to come to look after the dc for a weekend before Christmas and him and I should go.
Glad you're not affected by Sandy jenny but a risk of a volcano erupting sounds pretty serious. Stay safe.
None of my 3 ever slept that long at that age hupa and ds1 was a great sleeper. Thats amazing - the mum must be loving it. Think I've just been blessed with early risers but its easier now they're older - they just get up and go downstairs and dh and I carry on sleeping. Glad you had a good time in Dachau and the snow didnt affect your journey.
Still dont have my winter tyres sorted - felt shamed by the newsman last night who said all the accidents over the weekend were caused by people who STILL dont have their winter tyres sorted . I need dh to load them from our garage into the car and since he's not done it well I cant go. Thankfully the snow at the weekend was a bit of a one off for the week so I've plenty of time.
ploom I know exactly how you feel about the boots! I gave in this year and got dd 2 pairs of boots. Got them at Deichmann and they are what all the girls are wearing so she wanted to follow the crowd!
These cheap ones and these ones
I'd much rather she had a proper pair of long boots that will cope with snow too but she's been out in the rain with these 2 and says her feet were dry.
Sorry to hear about that poor man committing suicide, admylin, how awful for everyone.
Glad the vegan thing has started well, hope you continue to enjoy it.
jenny, stay safe! Or move to Germany!
Brrr, stay warm everyone else!
witches it was a shock when we heard about it and the fact that it was 2 weeks ago and I didn't know. The police must have been here.
The landlady even sent us all a round mail recently complaining that someone had left saw dust in the cellar and it was disgusting not to clean up after yourself and she would be charging us all alot of money to have it cleaned up if it's not gone in the next 2 weeks. I guess she also doesn't know.
People come and go in the building but I didn't even notice when recently someone moved out. No idea how they moved all their stuff without me even hearing it then we got a new neighbour right next to our flat and I didn't realise the last one had moved out.
I've tried to be chatty with some of the neighbours. I've even offered 2 of them to come in for a cup of tea but they kind of backed off as if I was crazy or maybe going to poisen them
Vegan week is going good. Made some great vegan brownies yesterday. Dd wasn't keen on the cauliflower and potato curry I made but everyone else ate it! Tofu stirfry and noodles today so we will see how that goes down. Almond milk is great too.
Nutella The dvds are on their way to you!
admylin I haven't forgotten you, I will send you that recipe (before the end of vegan week!)
Quick wave to everyone else, been stupidly busy this past week arranging flat stuff & trying to keep one step ahead of the destruction machine that is DS (who is now walking, which means even more mayhem than before.)
Here's the recipe, admylin:
1 can kidney beans
1 small onion, roughly chopped
1 medium carrot, cooked
1-2 teaspoons tomato paste
1/2 teaspoon dried mixed herbs
2 teaspoons cider vinegar
1-2 teaspoons oil
Put all the ingredients into a blender or food processor and blend to a smooth paste (or mash thoroughly with a potato masher). Chill before serving.
DS and I quite often have this with a bit of avocado and cheese (although obviously not good for vegan week) on tortilla wraps. I think you'd need to season it a bit more for adults.
Just so awful to feel so desperate/depressed to want to take your own life.
We got a new neighbour on Sunday, not met them/him/her yet. Our other neighbour is lovely, though we hardly ever see him.
Glad vegan week is going well.
Enjoy your walking DS, Antique!
Oh my goodness I completely missed the suicide thing. How awful!
Ploom Hope you enjoyed/survived the soft play! I've never been to one in the UK (I don't think there's one anywhere near where my parents live) but there are quite a few around here and they're all fairly big. I'll take my time sending the DVDs on to you then (unless anyone else wants them, in which case shout!).
admylin We buy virtually all the DC's shoes at Deichmann - they seem to have a much better choice as well as being cheaper than most other places. I wanted to get some winter boots from Lidl on Monday but made the mistake of leaving it until the afternoon, by which time they'd sold out. Grr.
The school week has just finished here as the DC have got today and tomorrow off. We haven't got much planned for the bank holiday tomorrow, but have a volles Programm for Friday - get the tyres changed (finally), get a new passport for DD1 and meet up with platanos.
Deichmann is OK linzer although the cheaper shoes don't last long. At the moment that's OK as I don't expect the dc to be in one size for long! We went to look at boots in what is apparently a Lagerverkauf for Salamander with 20% off shop price and there wasn't one pair of dc's boots under 100.
Have a nice relaxing few days with no school! We've got the rest of this week left then it's back to school for my 2.
Thanks for that recipe antique I even have all the stuff to make it so will try that tomorrow. we tried a quick ready made tofu burger at lunch time as we were late at the dentist (and both dc were starving) but it wasn't very good.
Just found out that it's quite impossible to get an appontmet at a dermatologists. Very long waiting times and snooty secretaries. Dd has a sort of mole thing on her lip and the dentist assistant caught it with the suction thing (she's new, in training) and it's hurting her now. Dentist said to go to a dermatologist but I think I might just go to a normal doctor. Or ask dh to pull some strings at the hospital.
Got boots for dd...... at Deichmanns . They were real leather reduced from 69 euros to 34.50 - happy days. They're still a bit gappy round her calves but not as bad as some others she tried on. So she's finally sorted for winter (new coat and whole ski outfit as well as the boots) and we're a bit poorer .
We had a really good time at the soft play yesterday - we were there for 6 hours . I had organised to meet up with 3 other English speaking friends and our 14 dc (!!) and one of the friends had brought 2 friends from the UK that were over for half term so it was a really sociable day for the grown ups and the dc all had a fab day too. Must organise it again some time.
admylin - oh that sounds sore - hope you get an appointment soon. I would think any doctor could have a look at it.
linzer - enjoy the few days off and say hello to platanos. I've got an appt for monday for my tyres but doubt there'll be any snow between now and then.
aw antique - toddlers toddling always looks so cute but I remember oh so clearly how much trouble they can cause! Keeps you fit tho - saves you shredding .
Crikey, so glad I wasn't on the East coast looking at all the damage that was sustained. Not that much chance of the volcano erupting but it is the same chain as Mt St Helens and that was a bit of a surprise at the time!
Dd has a Halloween party at school today and I volunteered to help. Fortunately dh has a day off (though he's gone into work at the moment ) so he can look after ds2 who is in the mood to run off all the time! I'll take ds1 with me, then it's the dentist, then gymnastics for dd and then trick or treating! Volles Programm indeed! That reminds me Linzer, must get the winter tyres on and get ds1's new passport now he is 5.
Hope you are all having a good Wednesday.
Sorry, the thread hadn't refreshed - hope you get the mole checked out for dd soon admylin and glad you had a great time at the soft play and got new boots ploom! It's great to be sorted.
Thank you Antique I love getting parcels in the post <rushes off to sit by post box and wait for postie> can't wait to watch some British telly
Ploom in some ways I miss it. There seem to be an abundance of decent restaurants and cosy cafés in Nürnberg; but up here they don't seem to have grasped the idea of sitting in café and relaxing. So far I have 1 coffee shop recommendation for Hannover but still about 6 for Nürnberg
admylin how is vegan week? Any protests or mutinies yet?? What do you have for breakfast? I'm very curious...
The baby-ecke is painted! Well I want to tidy up in one or two places but I finished the last big bit yesterday; now we can get on with all the fiddly bits and furniture buying...
DP still has a few days of leave to use and most of the things I'm doing wind down in the next two weeks so should be able to stop panicking and start relaxing together soon
BTW where is everyone? It's gone very quiet in here
nutella vegan breakfast isn't much different to non vegan breakfast for us. We've had toast with jam or slices of cucumber and chopped peppers (we eat that when we're not doing a vegan week) or musli with almond milk instead of milk and lemon tea, dd had a chocolate soya drink. I thought I would miss cheese mostly but I haven't and I'd gone off eggs recently so don't miss those and as I was vegetarian anyway, it hasn't been much of a change for me.
Dd has had a few moments when she's wanted chocolate or sweets or a quick snack that isn't vegan but she's sticking to it and mostly just gets herself an apple!
ploom sounds like you had a great soft play day! I've only ever been to one in the UK when the dc were tots and it was great, very safe for the dc but dd got stuck and I had to crawl through a tunnel, over a hanging bridge and into a pool of balls to show her the way out!
Congratulations on getting boots! I know how hard it is with fussy teen or pre-teen girls. The boots dd got this year wouldn't have been considered as OK last year. Same with her summer shoes, she suddenly decided on a style and was happy to wear shoes that would have almost killed her to even try on the year before.
Admylin sorry to hear about that suicide in your cellar, how horrible Hope your DD's mole can be looked at very soon.
Antique yay for toddling! I missed the kids when they were at the in-laws earlier in the week, but I must say it only takes a few days to forget just what a whirlwind of chaos, mess and destruction a young toddler can be, and the house I spent 3 days re-organising, cleaning, sorting and tidying already looks as trashed as ever... hmmm
I would hate to ever give up milk in tea, it is my biggest comfort and without the milk tea is undrinkable and life would be dark and sad especially in winter - I don't hate black coffee but its not a comforting drink without milk either, more a wake-up slap in the face guess I'd have to drink Glühwein from 6am onwards
Hi everyone! My parents left on Tuesday and I had to work yesterday despite it being a public holiday, so I'm taking it easy today and finally catching up with the thread.
admylin hope you're not completely weirded out by the suicide, how horrible . Vegan week sounds great though. If you need any more recipe ideas, give me a shout. I've got a recipe for couscous with roasted veg (including butternut squash, which you can actually buy atm) and a Madhur Jaffrey chickpea and potato curry which is one of my favourite things to eat ever.
antique I shall be trying that recipe of yours as well. DD currently loves eating things with dips, plus she gets so much meat at kiga that I really need to find alternatives to leberwurst/ham/Ferdi Fuchs sausages at teatime. Hooray for walking ds btw!
ploom I couldn't get an appointment to change our tyres until the 13th. I'm hoping it won't snow again in the meantime!
vegans have you heard anything about "Hefeextrakt" (yeast extract)? I bought some vegan salami today which has it in, but there was an article in the paper last week about it being terrible and it was mentioned at our Elternbeirat meeting at the kiga this week when the subject of rubbish food came up (Sudexo are supposed to be taking over the catering next year ). I'm confused about whether Marmite might actually turn out not to be a superfood or whether Hefeextrakt is something else entirely.
Sorry to see that cake has gone. Maybe she'll have more time to come back on here when the baby is here!
Hello to everyone I haven't managed to namecheck .
cheaspicks glad you had a nice time with your parents. Your dd will miss them at first I bet. at no tyre change appointments until the 13th! Must be a great time of year for business if your're a car mechanic! I think I should go and see about an appointment soon.
chickpea and potato curry is one of our regulars but thanks anyway (dh is Indian) and quite a few of the traditional curries we make are infact vegan! Have you seen the majula's kitchen website for Indian style veggie food? Her recipes are great and alot of them are vegan too.
english that's what I thought would be difficult too but the almond milk was OK in my tea. I like lemon tea though too. Lol at the Glühwein from 6am on ! Dd actually has some punch flavoured tea that tastes alot like Glühwein so why not!
Have a lovely time with platanos, Linzer and enjoy the bank holiday (which we don't get here in Hessen, boo!)
admylin Good luck with getting your DD's mole looked at. Do you think you'll got to the GP and get a referral? That website looks good - both DH and I are big curry eaters so a few new ideas always go down well.
Ploom Glad you had a nice time at the softplay place. PIL were here yesterday & this morning so I haven't had chance to shred, but DS is more than making up for it! He had his injections this morning so is napping now and I'm having a nice, hot cup of tea (when I really should be cleaning).
jenny Sounds like you had a busy day yesterday!
Nutella Are you excited about baby shopping? I loved it when I was pg
English I don't drink milk so the idea of milky tea and coffee makes me go a bit green around the gills! I can totally see how it would be a nice comforting thing though, especially in the winter. Maybe if I drank my tea with milk my teeth wouldn't currently be a lovely shade of PG Tips and I wouldn't have to scrub them with every whitening product I can get my hands on!
Glad you enjoyed your DC-free time and hope they haven't wrecked the place too much now they're back!
cheas Glad you had a nice time with your parents! There were a few more recipes for dips in the BLW cookbook if you want me to send them to you?
I've just whizzed around and tidied up a bit as we have people coming round to view the flat tonight, but it feels a bit pointless as as soon as DS wakes up he will wave his magic wand of destruction anyway. I gave up in the end this morning as he was following me around emptying everything I filled and unfolding everything I folded.
We advertised the flat on the internet at about 10pm on Tuesday and by 10am on Weds I had four viewings booked and another two or three enquiries, so I'm quitely positive about finding someone as it then means we can start packing to move in December, yay!
Antique That sounds really promising; hope the viewing goes well tonight. I know what you mean about tidying seeming pointless; I feel the same most of the time even though mine are all well past the toddler stage!
admylin I was surprised by how easy it was to switch to vegan food (I gave up dairy products when DD1 was a baby on the advice of our paed, although only lasted for about a month), but the fact that I was also vegetarian beforehand obviously made it easier, as did the fact that you could get vegan substitutes for more or less everything (I was surprised by how much I missed butter/margarine, until I found a vegan alternative).
cheas Glad you enjoyed the time with your parents. I'm also working today despite the bank holiday; I accepted a job due the middle of the next week before I realised that DD1 is off on Monday and Tuesday, so will have to try and get a bit more done this weekend.
English I would miss milk in tea and coffee as well (although I used to like soy milk on my cereals), although Glühwein from 6 am would be a tempting alternative.
Nutella I was thinking earlier this week how quiet it's been here, and then realised that it's Herbstferien for a lot of people on the thread.
Jenny Hope the Halloween party went well. Does your DS2 (I think he's the only one that was born there?) have an American or a British passport (or both)?
We went trick or treating last night, which was good fun but I am never going on an empty stomach again. We started off at our German neighbours', who offered us a schnapps - I refused, but they still brought me one. After a couple of alcohol-free stops, we ended up at our old neighbours' house, who invited us in and opened a bottle of wine. I think another one or two may have been opened at some point. I do actually remember all of the evening and don't think I said anything too embarrassing, but have no memory of the DC going to bed - thank goodness DH was around to feed them and make sure they went to bed!
Oooh for once my DH (who does no housework or cooking and not a lot of childcare) wins useful husband of the thread - he changed our tyres last Friday He DS1 has always "helped" (not intentionally sexist as he tried to get DD to learn to, she claims to be interested then wanders off to do something else after half a minute). Apparently this year DS1 did almost all of the work with DH only doing heavy lifting and safety precautions - DS1 is only just 5... Perhaps the mechanics are making money for doing something most people could do themselves???