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Child Arrangements Order - What does this mean?

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oodlesandnoodles · 09/10/2014 12:41

Ex and I have recently been to Court and a Child Arrangements Order has been made. He has the children 1 night per fortnight and they live with me. His Barrister wrote the Order and so I have not seen the finalised version until I received it in the post today. Does anyone know what the following means as both are written on the front in bold and underlined. Neither were written on the last CAO...

  1. "The names of the children set out in the heading of this Order and the names of the parties set out above are not to be disclosed in public without the permission of the Court"


  1. "No document other than a document specified in this Order shall be delivered by any party without the Court's permission".


Are these standard?

So as not to drip feed, ex is refusing to pay maintenance. The CSA have asked me to provide a Court Order to prove he only has the children 1 night a fortnight. He know this and I wonder if the above has been added to stop me sending it as proof of their Residency arrangements.

Am I allowed to send it to HMRC and/or CSA as they have specifically requested copies of any Orders. Is this classed as "in public" if it's a government agency asking for the Order? What about the kid's school? They usually keep copies of Court Order relating to Residency on file and always have previously for our children, otherwise they don't know when ex is being an idiot and trying to collect them outside of his Court Ordered days.

Thanks!
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HeadDoctor · 09/10/2014 13:09

Yes they are standard. Sending the order to the CSA (CMS now) is not making it public. What does HMRC want it for?

Does your ex have PR? Because if he does then school cannot legally stop him from taking the children even if you have a court order saying it's not his day to have them - unless you have a prohibited steps order?

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oodlesandnoodles · 09/10/2014 13:18

Thank you! That's reassuring. Perhaps I have been a little too suspicious in presuming it was ex trying to be clever! :)

I do understand that with PR he can't be refused the children. He is not a danger to them, just an idiot, likes to be a pain in the rear and mess around. If he knows the school know what days he's due to have them he won't try and collect them on other days - if that makes sense.

So it's OK to send to the CMS, which is great. It's the only way of proving the actual residency arrangements. We used to have Shared Care until 6 months ago and since then the children have lived with me almost full time except 1 night a week but ex pays no maintenance. He has the Child Benefit for one of the children still in fact and HMRC (CBO) have asked for the Court Order to prove they are now resident with me as he's refusing to communicate with them and is still receiving the CB!

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