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School transport had no child locks on taxi

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PipinJo Tue 09-Oct-12 15:55:37

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NatashaBee Tue 09-Oct-12 16:06:49

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littleducks Tue 09-Oct-12 16:12:49

I have a deadbolt thing on my car, I find it very effective, you can tell if it is on or off from drivers seat (versus having to open door to view childlock) I would have thought human error would be more likely with childlocks turned off at weekends or for other taxi jobs and not reactivated

PipinJo Tue 09-Oct-12 18:00:47

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CuddlyTeach Tue 09-Oct-12 22:14:25

Hi pip. Hope your ok? My car has the deadlock thing and automatically comes on when I drive over 20 mph. Maybe the taxi has that? So your da sits in the back if the taxi and other child sits in the front? Is that even legal? Surely the other ds shouldn't be allowed to sit in the front of the taxi. Has the other ds got an SEN? So what is happening to your ds now pip? The schools hands are tied as they are independent and they have no pull with an LEA run service. The only way the school can step in is if the transport is issued by the school. Our school has our own mini buses and that's the only mode of transport we offer.

PipinJo Wed 10-Oct-12 09:00:40

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Bunbaker Wed 10-Oct-12 09:06:21

I think in general having child locks on in taxis might be considered a health and safety issue when transporting adults around. I would hate to think I was stuck in a taxi on my own with a driver I felt uncomfortable with and couldn't open the door.

It is easy enough to flick the switch on and off for child locks in modern cars so I don't see why the driver can't just put them on while transporting your son.

Are there no other taxi firms you could use instead?

cestlavielife Wed 10-Oct-12 11:02:31

who pays the taxi?
if LA then you need to raise the concern with LA

PipinJo Wed 10-Oct-12 11:07:09

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CuddlyTeach Wed 10-Oct-12 14:09:04

Im sure that having a child in the front of a taxi without a parent is a big no no. You should check that as that could be a huge help to you. Also go along the lines of your ds is being excluded as the other child sits in front and the plastic barriers stops interaction. He may aswell be in a taxi alone. Do your ds and the other ds get along? The school are tied pip as they can't really do a lot. Is your ds late for registration? I'f he's not then its not really a lateness issue that you can push for. So is your ds in school now?

cestlavielife Wed 10-Oct-12 15:02:46

so he goes in taxi wihtout an escort?
why is there no escort?

PipinJo Wed 10-Oct-12 18:57:55

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Bunbaker Wed 10-Oct-12 18:59:46

"This taxi doesn't have child locks on and the door doesn't open from the outside so something wrong with the taxi door?"

This is so wrong and bringing up red flags for me.

CuddlyTeach Wed 10-Oct-12 19:45:35

I think you need to go back to your SW and get them on the case. If they arranged the transport it's his or her responsibility to make sure it is arranged to the "nth" degree. The taxi surely needs to pass health and safety checks? Ask for a copy if the latest mot that will tell u everything that was/is wrong with the vehicle. Your SW should be fighting this tooth and nail for you. And you said on an earlier post that your ds is not in school and rightly so. Keep him off until this is sorted and stick to your guns, do not allow him in an unsafe taxi! I know he may well want to be in school but you would rather him alive and well and missing a week or 2 of school than dead due to a shoddy vehicle that is supposed to be transporting him safely.

PipinJo Wed 10-Oct-12 20:34:06

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CuddlyTeach Wed 10-Oct-12 20:55:00

You are spot on Pip. I bet the SW or taxi company havnt thought of things like the but as a parent it's our job too. If we don't look after our children, you can be sure that no one else will.
In all honesty pip I would keep him at home........ Your car is off road isn't it, it was in an accident (wink wink)? You have no way other than public transport to get him to and from school and that's not viable due to times and distance etc. if you give in now and take your ds the taxi company can turn around and say you can do it full time and they will make it harder for you to get what your ds needs. You need to emphasise how much you rely on this taxi service and therefore it needs to be a watertight operation that runs with precision. Do you see what I mean?

PipinJo Wed 10-Oct-12 21:17:35

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CuddlyTeach Wed 10-Oct-12 21:44:48

I wouldn't film just in case there may be some sort of rules regarding it etc and it then may be inadmissable for your cause. Keep going with the no child locks or safety procedure thus putting your ds in danger. You hit the nail on the head with the accident example. That to me is enough to pull him out of the taxi. You live in a busy city the road traffic accident statistics are high enough in safe modern cars let alone un reliable in road worthy vehicles. The police would be more beneficial than filming I think personally. Have you asked your ds about the taxi ride? Is the driver a safe driver?

PipinJo Wed 10-Oct-12 22:19:49

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CuddlyTeach Wed 10-Oct-12 22:31:06

Use that evidence aswell that your ds is frightened due to speed limits being exceeded. Use the school in a positive way and ask them to make a note of the times ds has arrived the past few weeks and u note what time he left home then work out times and say its impossible or unlikely that driver could get from a to b in x ammount of time unless speeding/ driving recklessly. Definately the police as they can check the taxi and see if its road worthy. The police regularly stop road users in unsatisfactory vehicles, it constitutes a fine and points. Have the taxi company said that they will re arrange something else for your ds ?

PipinJo Wed 10-Oct-12 22:40:21

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CuddlyTeach Wed 10-Oct-12 22:44:55

There's no way on this earth there were no busses in a big city at that time. I live in a small town and we have 7 busses through our town every hour!! No way is taxi driver telling truth.
You need to contact your SW and scream from the rooftops all of your worries and your ds worries and use everything you have told us here to te SW. The SW arranged the initial transport they now need to sort it out. What has your SW said exactly?

PipinJo Wed 10-Oct-12 22:54:06

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CuddlyTeach Wed 10-Oct-12 23:01:25

Keep trying that's all I can suggest pip there. And police ASAP tomorrow. Your child's life is at risk and you trust someone u don't know with his life each day. You need to know he's safe. Keep him off this week and dot back down to the school transport. Ask school for work for ds so he won't fall behind. Let me know what happens tomorrow regarding police etc. will cross everything for u and ds pip :-) hugs x

littleducks Wed 10-Oct-12 23:03:17

I think the door not opening from the outside us a far bigger deal than childlocks not being present. There are other ways to lock the door, not being able to open it from the outside in an emergency would really concern me.

I would contact the council. Not the school transport dept, but the dept that licenses the taxi and explain your concerns that the vehicle is not maintained properly.

I do wonder if the driver is just fobbing you off though. Why don't you take ds to the car and open the door yourself and have a look. See if And how it opens, is the central locking just on? Or is the door broken?Childlocks are usually on the door rim. See if they are they and put them on yourself.

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