IUI- anyone else?

(189 Posts)
Artesia Thu 21-Mar-13 12:15:35

After 18 months ttc with no joy, DP and I had a full battery of tests, but came back as a very frustrating case of unexplained infertility.

Given DP's age, we decided we didn't want to just wait and see if we got lucky naturally, so we're now in our first cycle of IUI- had my trigger shot yesterday, and going in for insemination this afternoon. Am ridiculously nervous - way more than I thought I would be- but trying not to get my hopes up as I know the stats for IUI.

Anyone else going through IUI at the moment and fancy some mutual support and hand holding?

Happilymarried155 Thu 21-Mar-13 13:41:04

I am starting in about six weeks, same situation as you all normal test results. I'm a mixture of emotions for my iui, so much hope, nerves, excitement that it might actually work and a huge amount if doubt given the low success rates. Such a mix of emotions!

I have read about lots of people concieving with iui so I have my fingers crossed and for you too!!
Good luck this afternoon, keep us posted on the procedure and how your getting on! smile

Artesia Thu 21-Mar-13 19:51:06

Hello Happily!

Pleased to report that all went well this afternoon- was really straight forward and all over in about 10 mins, so there was no need for me to have been quite so nervous. Now just got to sit tight for the agonising 2 week wait......and try VERY hard not to get obsessive and start symptom spotting!

Fingers firmly crossed that all works out for you. Overall, I have found the process ok, although was tricky this week being on standby and going in for daily scans to check progress. It means your life is put on hold a bit, and is hard to plan anything.

To be honest though, think has almost been harder for DP than me up til now- I think he felt a bit hopeless watching from the sidelines while I have seemingly endless scans, blood tests, take clomid etc, only to be wheeled in like a prize bull to perform on demand! Have tried really hard to make sure he feels involved, rather than just a bit player in the whole thing.

I don't know about you, but I don't know anyone in real life who has been through this, so finding it really helpful to read up on here about other people's experiences of infertility and iui. Otherwise I swear I might think I was going mad!

Happilymarried155 Thu 21-Mar-13 20:34:46

So pleased it went ok! It's going to be a long two weeks, you will have to make sure you have lots planned to keep your mind off it! Easier said than done I know! smile

That's the bit I'm worried about, getting to the scans etc..each day! Did you have the medicated cycle? No one knows at work so I'm going to have to come up with alot of excuses! Was it internal scans you had to have?

I hadn't really thought about dh feeling not involved in the iui process. Must be be quite hard for them. I'm going to take that on board when it's my turn! smile

tillyann2013 Thu 21-Mar-13 21:32:25

Room for a little one? smile
We are just about to do iui #3. We have a ds aged 3 and gave been trying for #2 for almost 2 years now. Also unexplained which is so incredibly frustrating as we were only about 7 months trying first time round. I'm on 75ml of gonal f with ovitrelle trigger. Although I went today, day 10 and there's lots if follicles but all only around 10mm so he's asked me to reduce the dose to 50 till Monday.
No one in work knows either and I'm struggling to come up with excuses too, so hard. Might have to just come clean without boss if it goes on much longer. Worse thing is, my colleague told me the others had been gossiping and saying that I'm def preg as I keep having appointments. I wish!!!
Def up for some hand holding xx

Artesia Thu 21-Mar-13 22:50:38

Welcome #Tillyann#- the more the merrier! Fingers firmly crossed your follicles do some growing over the next few days.

I am on a medicated cycle- ended up with two decent sized follicles. Had internal scans on days 3, 8, 10 and 11, then they gave me the trigger injection and did the iui today (day 12). Luckily they were fairly good about appointment times, so I fitted them in on the way to work, other than today (when I just snuck out an hour earlier than normal!)

Have either of you tried acupuncture to help the process? I wanted to, but hard enough to fit the iui appointments in, let alone trying to get to acupuncture as well. The fertility clinic does recommend it though, so would be keen to give it a go for the next couple of cycles (assuming this one doesn't work- trying not to get my hopes up too high!)

tillyann2013 Fri 22-Mar-13 18:47:03

Evening all. I've got achy ovaries so def something going on. What meds are you on?
I tried acupuncture a wee while ago but she wanted to see me twice a week at £55 a pop so couldn't afford it. I might look into it again and see if once a week even would be sufficient. Have had a few reflexology treatments too, I'm willing to give anything a shot to be fair!

tillyann2013 Mon 25-Mar-13 12:41:29

Just an update from me. Had a scan this morning and my follicles are only 13 and 14mm after reducing the dose of gonal f. hmm
So now increasing the dose to 75 again today and tomorrow and scan again wed with the hope of doing iui thurs.

How are you girls doing?

Artesia Tue 26-Mar-13 15:05:58

Fingers crossed for your scan tomorrow Tillyann - hope the follicles have got nice and big!

Am now five days into my first 2ww, and going slightly mad. Trying desperately not to symptom spot, and swinging between ridiculously optimistic and really negative. Can't believe how frustrating the whole process is. And worst of all, the progesterone I'm now taking has made me really bloated, so I look pregnant at the moment - had a few raised eyebrowns and knowing looks among the more observant people at work.

DP is being lovely - planning some treats for after the 2ww, so we've got something nice to take our minds off it if it doesn't work this time, although if that's the case we will be straight back in for round two of scans and clomid. Feel as if our lives are just on hold at the moment.

But positive thoughts all round ladies - the iui WILL work for us all!!!

tillyann2013 Tue 26-Mar-13 16:50:59

Oh Art, the 2ww is a killer, hopefully it passes quickly for you. How lovely of your dp, that's half the battle isn't it?

I have no idea what's going on with me as I've got some spotting today but I'm only on day 15??? Any ideas? Maybe it's the drugs. Will mention it tomorrow and see what they say.

Happilymarried155 Tue 26-Mar-13 17:41:34

I'm on my last tww before I start iui, I think it's the first month since I started ttc that I haven't been symptom spotting! I think I'm more chilled because I feel like I'm just waiting for our iui.
I know what you mean about your life being on hold though, been invited to lots of weddings away etc...don't know whether to accept or not as I think il be in the middle of iui, dh says we can't put our life on hold!

Good luck you guys!!! smile

Artesia Wed 27-Mar-13 10:06:39

Happily- my new theory is to accept all invitations, the further away the better (especially if we have to book expensive no refundable flights) as sod's law will hopefully then mean we can't go cos am pregnant! Was two clicks away from booking a holiday to the Carribbean for next Christmas, as that's when I'd be due if this iui cycle has worked!

I definitely felt the same as you in my last 2ww before iui. DP and I pretty much gave up on the last cycle - no more "come on, come on, I'm ovulating. Can we just get on with it"!

Tilly, thinking of you today. Not sure what time your appointment is, but sending positive, follicle-growing vibes your way. Spotting does sound v mysterious, but hopefully they can put your mind at rest today. As you say, may well be the drugs. They seem to have all sorts of wierd and wonderful effects.....

tillyann2013 Wed 27-Mar-13 19:03:08

Hi everyone, not good news I'm afraid. Have to abandon this cycle as I have lots of follies but all still quite small, around 10 or 12 mm. Boo flipping hoo sad

Artesia Wed 27-Mar-13 19:17:40

So sorry to hear that Tilly- sending you huge un-mumsnetty hugs.

Hope you are going to put your feet up tonight and have a big glass of wine. Did you get any answers on what might have caused the spotting? And are they going to try again next cycle?

I had a major fertility induced rage this afternoon. You know the feeling when everyone around you seems to be pregnant? Well was having my hair cut and hairdresser was chatting away about his recent hols. Then announced he wouldn't be going away again for a while as his girlfriend was pregnant "we weren't even trying. Was a real surprise, blah blah blah". I sat there with a rictus grin on my face, feigning excitement for him and inwardly seething and thinking " Gaaaaaaah- just shut up- i do NOT need to hear about that". Unreasonable and irrational I know, but just feels so unfair.....

Slainte Thu 28-Mar-13 15:35:53

Hi all

Just found this thread. I had my 2nd IUI last Wednesday (same as you Art ?) so think I'll test on Saturday ie 10 DPO. When do you plan to test?

I've already paid for IVF for next month if it doesn't work - not showing much PMA am I? grin

tilly sorry to hear you had to abandon.

Slainte Thu 28-Mar-13 15:36:37

Just realised I was actually the day before you Art

Artesia Thu 28-Mar-13 17:38:19

Hello and welcome Slainte!

Was told to wait til next Friday to test. Not sure I can hold out that long, but will try to wait til the middle of next week if I can. Not feeling optimistic though- starred getting pmt type cramps and back ache today. Trying not to read too much into it, especially as am on daily progesterone, which seems to be sending everything haywire, but like you am already gearing self up for iui round 2.

Fingers crossed for your test.

Slainte Thu 28-Mar-13 19:20:49

I'm sure my period is on it's way too.

I was told to wait til next Thursday to test too but impatience will get the better of me I'm sure grin

With the progesterone be aware that you can feel very low when you stop using it.

Artesia Fri 29-Mar-13 07:44:23

Excellent - alongside the bloating, indigestion and other lovely side effects i've had, a good bout of miserable sobbing will be just perfect! Honestly, am surprised DP can bear to be in the same room as me at the moment- the man deserves a medal!

Fancy acting as a "don't test yet" support group- maybe see if can hold out til after the bank holiday?! Am working on he basis that is too early to be positive, and I don't want to see a BFN, so going to spend the weekend distracting self with Easter choc. Gave it up for Lent, and has been a long few weeks getting through the iui without a sneaky Twirl or seven in the evening!

ilovepicnmix Fri 29-Mar-13 07:49:50

Morning ladies. Im not going through the same process as you but just wanted to send you all good luck and my best wishes.

Happilymarried155 Fri 29-Mar-13 08:10:58

Sorry to hear that Tilly sad what's your next step?

Good luck with the wait everyone else, try and wait as long as you can!!!! smile

tillyann2013 Fri 29-Mar-13 21:55:19

Just gotta call them on first day of next cycle and start again confused

Slainte Fri 29-Mar-13 22:09:45

Good luck next time tilly.

Art I'm currently pretending I haven't read your "don't test yet group" idea grin

tillyann2013 Sun 31-Mar-13 20:08:21

How are you all? Has the Easter choc been a distraction from the 2ww?
I can't wait for af to arrive so we can get going again, hate this waiting malarkey!

Slainte Mon 01-Apr-13 17:27:56

Hope you're all enjoying a lovely long weekend.

I shouldn't have wasted those pregnancy tests as AF arrived this afternoon. So, it looks like I'm off for a spot of IVF, it's my second time so I know the drill. I hated it first time around the chemicals made me like a mad PMT x 100 loon. Skin, hair etc looked awful which got me down too.

However, IVF worked the last time though I had a MC at about 9 weeks sad

I really wish you all well on your IUI journey.

Artesia Mon 01-Apr-13 17:43:34

Oh no Slainte, so sorry to hear that. Hope DP/DH is looking after you today. Do you know when you will start on the Ivf? Doesn't sound fun at all, but just have to keep the faith tht is all in a good cause. I know it isn't iui, but if you want moral support, do stay on thread- there is plenty of hand holding and positive vibes to go round.

No news here, but awful cramps and feel really premenstrual (even though not due til end if the week- usually get a good 10 days of feeling awful before it starts) so not feeling at all hopeful. When was pregnant with DS (6.5 years ago, with ex-h), I had symptoms, but nothing now, so just waiting for AF.

Not helped by me forgetting to take progesterone with me when we went away on Thursday. Back home now, but suspect am better to leave it and let nature take its course than start using it again now. So cross with self, but trying to be fatalistic about it.

How are you getting on Tilly? Any sign of AF yet? And Happily still 2ww-ing

tillyann2013 Mon 01-Apr-13 19:12:00

Hi there, slainte I'm sorry af has turned up. Bloody bitch. hmm hugs x
When will you start ivf then? Can I ask why you had ivf then iui? Sorry if I'm been intrusive. I agree though, stay on the thread for some support xx

I am day 21 with an average cycle of 29/30 days but with the mid cycle bleeding I've no idea where I am. Am thinking I'm gonna have to say something at work with all the time I'll need off again. Any ideas?

I hope the other af's stay away xxx

Slainte Mon 01-Apr-13 20:48:53

Thanks so much ladies, lovely to have people who understand.

Everything crossed for you Art.

tilly not an intrusive question at all. I was so delighted when I got pregnant on my 1st round of IVF last Sept/Oct, I had a 7.5 week heartbeat scan and really felt everything was going so well. I had morning, noon and night sickness - same as when I was pregnant with my DD (a surprise natural conception).

My consultant thought there was a second baby in there so asked me to come back two weeks later. I was so confident I didn't even get DH to accompany me there. Unfortunately eventhough the baby was the correct size there were no heartbeats left at all. I had an ERPC that night. I was so heartbroken, it took me a long time to recover and I'm still crying nearly daily about it. Especially as my good friend is due the same week as I should have been.

So, I really wasn't up to trying IVF again immediately as it's so invasive. Also, I live in the Channel Islands and we have to have our IVF treatment in UK but can have IUI over here. Travelling with, and trying to get care in the UK for, my toddler also adds to the stress. But I didn't want to waste too much time as I'm getting on a bit smile so thought it would be best to at least do something while I was getting my emotional strength back together.

Hence, why I did 2 rounds of IUI before starting IVF again.

I'm actually having my first IVF scan (on-island) either tomorrow or Weds and I've got my meds in the fridge now. Will have to go to UK probably on day 10/11 depending on how my follicles are growing. It's all so last minute arranging travel etc.

Slainte Mon 01-Apr-13 20:50:02

Sorry, pressed post too soon ...... tilly because everything's so last minute it may be worth talking to your boss if they are understanding.

tillyann2013 Mon 01-Apr-13 21:45:44

Are you serious?! That's where I live!!!!!!!!!

Slainte Mon 01-Apr-13 21:52:45

Am going to pm you now!

Artesia Tue 02-Apr-13 07:47:14

What an amazing coincidence! Am a bit jealous that I don't live in the Channel Islands too now!!

Happilymarried155 Tue 02-Apr-13 17:34:33

Hi everyone! Sorry to hear about your bfn. So upsetting isn't it.

Still on 2ww here, at due on sat. I'm sure it will arrive, no symptoms at all this time which could be a good thing as none of my symptoms have amounted to anything before!! So who knows, fingers crossed! If not its our appointment at the clinic at the end of April!

Slainte Tue 02-Apr-13 19:22:22

Aw Artesia we're on different islands so won't be having clandestinely"off-thread" meet ups grin. Hopefully your cramps haven't come to anything.

Everything crossed for you Happily.

I've got my day 2 IVF scan tomorrow. I hate this one as it's internal while you have your period, so humiliating. I know they've seen it all before but it still feels embarrassing.

Slainte Tue 02-Apr-13 19:23:11

*clandestine - no idea where that extra ly came from!

Artesia Tue 02-Apr-13 19:36:09

Slainte that's a shame- had visions of you discovering you were neighbours!

Cramps fortunately not come to anything. I didn't manage to hold out til Friday- I caved and tested today, and am in shock as got a BFP! Honestly can't believe it, but is such early days am trying not to get my hopes up. Haven't had any symptoms, just awful pmt cramps for the last few days, so very nervous.

Other than DP (who cried like a baby when I told him), you ladies are the only people who know, so keep your fingers for me that it's a sticky one.

Artesia Tue 02-Apr-13 19:37:20

Sorry - posted too soon, but hope no symptoms is a good thing for you too Happily. Sending positive vibes over the ether.... Xx

tillyann2013 Tue 02-Apr-13 19:50:37

Omg Art, that's fabulous news! Delighted for you and really hoping its a sticky one for you honey. How many days past iui are you? Was this your first iui? And it was clomid, right? Fantastic news, our first BFP!

Artesia Tue 02-Apr-13 19:54:58

Thanks Tilly! Am 11 days post iui, and it was my first go, with clomid.

Hopefully a good omen and the start of a whole run of BFPs for the thread.

tillyann2013 Tue 02-Apr-13 20:01:22

Wow! That was good going. Did you take anything else? Or do anything differently?

Slainte Tue 02-Apr-13 20:05:32

That's fantastic news Artesia. Hopefully that's the first of many BFPs on this thread smile

tillyann2013 Tue 02-Apr-13 20:19:08

Hey slainte, how are you today?

I'm bloody exhausted! Tossed and turned all night till 2.30 am and was up at 7.30 for work, early night tonight and hope I can sleep! I get a bit panicky at night sometimes and worry myself sick about all this and the thought of my ds being our only child. Is that daft?

Artesia Tue 02-Apr-13 20:43:38

Great big hugs Tilly- been there many times. DS is my son from first marriage. DP adores him, and they get on amazingly, but was so worried DP and I wouldn't have another. Was particularly tough when Exh and his wife ( who had been OW during my pregnancy) had a baby. DS was so excited to have a brother. I think I cried for about 3 weeks solid.

If you need something to help you sleep to hit, have heard that chocolate (in large quantities) is a good sleep aid smile

And no, nothing different this month am afraid. Good prenatal vitimins and DP on lots of brazil nuts and cooked tomatoes, plus vats of homemade spinach, watercress and rocket soup for us both for extra folic acid! Also, even though we the last thing either of us really fancied, DP and i did the deed the morning after the iui to make sure we caught ovulation.

tillyann2013 Tue 02-Apr-13 20:50:36

Good to know I'm not completely nuts then. Sometimes I think if it's meant to be, so be it. But then a day later id be like aarrrgghhhh!

I'm so pleased for you, must have been horrible when exh ow was preg, sad

That soup sounds great, how did you make it?

Happy and healthy 9 months to you xxx

Artesia Tue 02-Apr-13 20:56:26

This is the soup. Is properly yummy-DP didn't even suspect it was v healthy!

Hope you get a good night's sleep tonight


tillyann2013 Tue 02-Apr-13 21:33:50

Thank you, will give the soup a go at the weekend.

Night night xxx

Happilymarried155 Wed 03-Apr-13 07:15:38

That's amazing news!!! You have given us all hope. Fingers crossed all goes well! smile

Slainte good luck for your scan today!

Artesia Wed 03-Apr-13 11:46:02

Hope all goes/went well with the scan Slainte x

tillyann2013 Wed 03-Apr-13 21:45:43

Evening ladies, how are you all? Has your news sunk in yet art? Bet you're still on cloud nine?grin

Slainte, how was the scan? Hope everything is looking good.

tillyann2013 Wed 03-Apr-13 21:46:33

And hi happily, hope you still waiting?......... smile

tillyann2013 Thu 04-Apr-13 21:01:10

Hello ladies, anyone still around. Very quiet in here sad

Slainte Thu 04-Apr-13 23:16:10

Hi all

Still here tilly grin I completely know what you mean about the worry of having a sibling for my DD, it haunts me. I've been having a few sleepless nights myself. How are you?

All went grand with the scan, started injecting my gonal-f today. depending on next week's scans I'll hopefully be in UK end of next week for a final scan and then IVF the following week.

It's such great news for you Art I'm sure you're still on cloud nine.

Happilymarried155 Fri 05-Apr-13 07:54:28

Hi everyone!
Glad the scan went ok.
I had some blood tests done again in time for my appointment and got them back they said everything was normal, but I got my fertility book out to have a look and it says my TSH levels are high, mine are 4 but in order to concieve they need to be under 2. Has anyone had any experience in this? Obviously I googled like crazy and read all sorts about people having raised levels have a higher risk of miscarriage and doctors won't do fertility treatment unless they can get your level below 2. I think it's something to do with your thyroid.

It's all so complicated!

Artesia Fri 05-Apr-13 13:09:50

Still here too! Really pleased all went well with the scan Slainte, and hope injections don't have too many side effects.

Afraid I don't know anything about TSH levels Happily, but do they vary depending on where you are in the cycle? Sounds as if doctors are confident all is in order- hopefully they can explain all at your appointment. When are you due to see them? I found as soon as i was signed up and underway, i felt much better as there were so many appointments to distract me, and it felt like we were making some progress.

I absolutely agree though- had no idea how complicated it all was til we embarked on this journey. Quite frankly it seems a miracle that anyone ever manages to get pregnant without help.

All good here, but trying very hard not to get carried away as is such early days, and still so much that could go wrong. Going for blood test to confirm pregnancy on Monday - still convinced they will say I'm not, despite 6 positive tests! Then scan in two weeks- one of the joys of e treatment I suppose, not having to wait for normal 12 week scan, especially as have a couple of friends who have gone to 12 wk thinking all was well, then found out they had miscarried.

But enough doom and gloom- is my birthday today, so going to celebrate with tea and lots of cake!


Happilymarried155 Fri 05-Apr-13 17:31:59

That's lovely happy birthday smile keep us posted! X

Slainte Fri 05-Apr-13 18:43:00

I don't know about the TSH levels happily do you have an appointment with anyone to interpret the results?

Happy birthday Artesia thanks

Artesia Sat 06-Apr-13 08:53:05

Thank you so much for my birthday wishes and first ever mumsnet flowers ladies!

How are you getting on with the gonal-f Slainte? Hope not too many side effects.

Tilly are you back on the treadmill for the next round yet?

Have woken up to a lovely sunny day here. Nope is the same for all of you, and we can all enjoy some lovely spring sunshine for once

Happilymarried155 Sat 06-Apr-13 08:56:23

AF arrived this morning sad was our last chance this month so will definitely be needing that appointment. Trying to stay positive but feel so depressed.

Artesia Sat 06-Apr-13 09:14:25

Huge hugs Happily. Felt exactly the same with my last AF before the iui. Was convinced the prospect of the iui would shock my body into getting on with it and conceiving.

Hopefully though you can put it into the hands of the experts now and let them get on with it. Not sure what the others think, but I actually found it quite liberating not feeling so responsible for trying to make things happen any more.

Hope you can put your feet up and indulge self today?


Happilymarried155 Sat 06-Apr-13 09:42:37

That's exactly it. I'm trying to stay positive, we have been waiting for this appointment for 6 months and now it's only 3 weeks away but I was so hoping if would happen before then and I suppose it's the realisation that it isn't going. I'm really nervous about the treatment and I'm so worried how il cope of it doesn't work. What a nightmare!

Going to keep busy today to try and keep my mind off it! Did you have a nice birthday? smile

Slainte Sat 06-Apr-13 11:37:13

Oh Happily I know exactly how you feel, we conceived naturally whilst waiting for AF before going for IVF a few years ago so I had myself convinced it would happen again and when it didn't I was so depressed.

I really wouldn't worry about the IUI treatment, it really is a walk in the park. A few scans, taking your medication then sperm transfer (which is easier than a smear test!) and it's all over in 2 weeks. It really is that easy. I remember my good friend (who has a lot of IUI and IVF experience) telling me just to worry about today and prepare for tomorrow and don't think any further than that on a daily basis. If you think about the whole experience you can feel overwhelmed and I promise you that IUI really isn't too bad at all.

Gonal-F isn't too bad at the moment, felt nauseous yesterday but that could have been for any reason. My skin is in an awful way, this is my 3rd month in a row to be injecting it (2xIUI and now IVF) so that's not really surprising.

How are you tilly?

Enjoy the sunshine Artesia. It's lovely over here too, hopefully Spring has sprung smile

Slainte Sat 06-Apr-13 14:38:37

Actually happily following on from my post above I really didn't want to sound dismissive of your worries, sorry if it read like that. What I meant was don't worry about the physical aspect of the treatment.

The emotional process is of course difficult, we all pin our hopes on every stage of the treatment and I know for me it's been a rollercoaster. Everyday we're worrying about getting pregnant, staying pregnant etc so you are right to be nervous and apologies again if I sounded dismissive above, I really didn't mean to minimise your emotions.

Happilymarried155 Sat 06-Apr-13 14:51:14

Don't worry slainte, you didn't sound dismissive at all, it was good to read that it's not too stressful and invasive I don't really know what to expect so it's good to know!
I feel abit better this afternoon, been keeping busy and then sun being out has helped! Hope your enjoying your day!

WeeNoggi Sun 07-Apr-13 04:19:27

Hello all,

I'd love to join! Congrats Artesia - hope it works out

I had my first gonal-f injection injection last night and we're off at a very ungodly hour for our first treatment tomorrow morning.

Also had a hysterosalpingogram (had to look up spelling of that!) recently & hoping Dr Google is right that that also has a positive impact on ttc.

Are any of you exercising? I'm sure losing weight would benefit me & DH but I'm not sure whether a gym visit today is wise confused

Artesia Sun 07-Apr-13 20:07:06

Hello WeeNoggi welcome aboard!

Hope all went well with your appointment today?

Not sure about the others, but I didn't do anything specific re exercise. Am normal build (except perhaps my slightly large bottom!), so wasn't told I needed to lose weight specifically. I walk quite a bit, but otherwise fairly idle. Most of the advice I have seen is. Of to start anything too radical during treatment, but the others might have better advice.

Happilymarried155 Sun 07-Apr-13 20:55:56

I exercise generally but I'm not sure if you should start doing anything you wouldn't normally do. Maybe discuss this at the fertilty clinic. Wishing you lots of luck!

I'm much more emotionally stable today thank goodness, I've had my monthly wobble and now I'm ready and raring to go for my appointment!

Hope everyone else is ok smile

Artesia Sun 07-Apr-13 21:39:36

Really pleased you are feeling better today Happily. Have you got long to wait til your appointment?

How's everything going with the injections Slainte? Hope still not TOO bad. How much longer have you got to go on it?

tillyann2013 Mon 08-Apr-13 11:19:09

Sorry I've been AWOL, busy weekend. Will catch up this evening. Hope you're all well xxx

Slainte Mon 08-Apr-13 14:43:46

Hi all
Welcome aboard WeeNoggi How was your appointment on Sunday? What was done?

Glad to hear you're feeling better happily smile

How are you Artesia? Any symptoms yet?

Gonal-F not too bad. Started on the Cetrotide as well this morning, had forgotten what a faff that is, mixing solutions etc. My skin is awful (like a teenage boy!), have flu like symptoms and diarrhoea and vomiting (all of which I had last time too) other than that I'm grand grin grin grin

Have a scan Weds morning and depending on those results I will go to the UK on Thursday for a final scan and hopefully egg collection on Monday. Fingers crossed.

When do you start again tillyann?

tillyann2013 Mon 08-Apr-13 18:38:26

Hello everyone and welcome wee noggi too, sorry I haven't been around the last few days. I am feeling a bit down at the mo as 2 of my closest friends have just announced their second pregnancies. Of course I'm delighted for them but sad for us too, selfish I know hmm
I am thinking of having a break for a couple of months and stopping the drugs and going au natural. I think I'll make another appointment with the consultant and see what he says.

On day 28 so af due any day now.

Sorry to hear you aren't well

tillyann2013 Mon 08-Apr-13 18:42:12

Ooops, posted too soon. Sorry you're not well slainte, is that a usual side effect for you? Hope it eases off for you, let us know how the scan goes on wed.

Art, did you have the blood test today? Hope all well x

Hope everyone okay xxxx

Artesia Mon 08-Apr-13 19:58:19

Hello Tilly. Really sorry to hear you have had a rough few days. Have been there myself- sobbing In the toilet at work after yet another pregnancy announcement, so I know how tough it can be, especially if you are feeling hormonal. Don't be too hard on yourself- is a totally understandable reaction. Have a wine tonight and be kind to self.

Slainte - that's some roll call of symptoms! You are sounding v perky considering! Fingers crossed for Wednesday. What's the best possible find at the next scan?

Had the blood test today- BFP confirmed, and hormone levels all look right for this stage, which is great news. Now counting down to scan, 2 weeks tomorrow. If they can spot a heart beat then, I might actually relax and start to believe it's real rather than fretting all the time and waiting for something to go wrong. I am actually enjoying when any symptoms (mainly sore boobs, exhaustion and shameful, shameful amounts of wind) kick in as they make me feel as though is actually happening, and I haven't made it all up.

tillyann2013 Mon 08-Apr-13 22:02:07

Great news Artesia, congratulations again, you must be thrilled!
I hope the next two weeks go quickly for you.

Im feeling a bit brighter now, been out for a nice long walk and am trying to get my pma back! Thanks for the encouragement, nice to be able to see each other through the darker days. Xx

Artesia Tue 09-Apr-13 16:34:03

Great to hear you are feeling brighter Tilly.

WeeNoggi, hope we haven't scared you off! Promise we are a very friendly bunch. Really hope all went well with your appointment the other day

Happilymarried155 Tue 09-Apr-13 19:51:51

Nope not long only 3 weeks, he said we can start iui straight away so il expecting to start it around 6th may.

Glad your feeling better Tilly, it is nice to have someone else to talk too that understand isn't it!

Artesia, any advice you can give me for my first iui?

Artesia Tue 09-Apr-13 19:58:59

Not sure about advice, but was a lot more straightforward than I expected. Side effects from meds weren't too bad at all, the biggest pain was how many appointments for scans/ blood tests I seemed to have to work out when prime time to trigger was.

Think I mentioned it before, but the only real tip I have is to give DP/DH some attention during the process. It's all about the woman until the bloke is summoned in to perform, so think it would be quite easy for blokes to feel a bit on the outside.

Only other thing is to try (although it's impossible) to relax during 2ww and plan something as a distraction. Although would advise planning nothing that involves being in public- the progesterone suppositories you use after the iui can give you vicious wind. I am not safe to be out in public at the moment- DP not sure whether to be horrified or slightly in awe!!!

Lastly, don't despair if you feel as though you are getting period pains during 2ww. I had period type back cramps for a few days before I tested, so was convinced was due on any day.

HesterShaw Tue 09-Apr-13 20:04:05

Hello all, this just popped up in Active Convos. It's as thought it was meant to be...

I am currently undergoing IUI, the first of four possible rounds before a round of IVF, thought I doubt I'll do all four. I'm 38, TTC for three years, all unexplained apart from a rather low AMH.

Trigger shot tonight at 10pm - eeek - ready for the squirting with the turkey baster on Thursday morning. Had scan yesterday morning and apparently there are three fat follicles and a nice fat womb lining. I was injecting buserilin and puregon for nine days.

Congratulations on your BFP Artesia! First time too - that's pretty good going!

Everyone else, hello and hope you don't mind me crashing in.

Artesia Wed 10-Apr-13 08:49:29

Welcome aboard Hester! What fab timing for us to pop up in active convos! How are you feeling today? three follicles and a good lining sounds perfect, so fingers crossed all goes well tomorrow. You never know, could end up with triplets!!!

Hope everyone else is doing well today? I actually wanted to ask a general q- do you all mind me lurking around on here, at least until my scan in 2 weeks? Still feeling hugely nervous that something will go wrong, or they will spot something disastrous at the scan, and feels to early to hang up my iui boots and say am done with it.


HesterShaw Wed 10-Apr-13 10:00:39

<quakes at idea of triplets>

If there was ever a couple who most emphatically was NOT set up for triplets it was us <eyes two bed, cold rented house and dodgy bank balance>

tillyann2013 Wed 10-Apr-13 20:30:07

Hi everyone and welcome on board Hester. 3 juicy follicles, fingers crossed. Best of luck for tomorrow, is this your first time iui?

Art, of course we don't mind. Stay here as long as you want as far as I'm concerned.

I'm on day 30 and nothing. No sign of af at all yet. Not getting any hopes up though as didn't do iui this time. Wish it would hurry the eff up!

Artesia Wed 10-Apr-13 21:12:07

Well I have my fingers firmly crossed that your AF doesn't arrive Tilly!! Have you managed to hold out, or cracked and tested yet just in case?

Very best of luck tomorrow Hester and hope scan went well today Slainte

HesterShaw Wed 10-Apr-13 22:08:52

Thank you. Yes it's my first one. I have zero hope I freely admit, so I'm looking at it as an interesting exercise.

Artesia Thu 11-Apr-13 18:17:18

How did you get on today Hester? Hope all went well

HesterShaw Thu 11-Apr-13 19:30:57

Thanks for asking. Went well I think. MrH apparently had a "good sample" hmm and then in it went. Not a pleasant process but a means to an end it was the biggest damn speculum I've ever seen and hurt but never mind. Testing the weekend of the 27th.

Artesia Thu 11-Apr-13 20:45:24

Well done MrH!!

And obv well done you too! Hope you are taking it easy tonight? I know what you mean about the speculum. I was so horrified I made DP look at pictures of them so he could share my anguish!

tillyann2013 Thu 11-Apr-13 22:59:32

Great news Hester, fingers crossed xx

WeeNoggi Sat 13-Apr-13 05:25:54

Sorry to be away for so long. The IUI didn't go very well as DH's sample wasn't too good sad. The lab phoned the doctor to see if they wanted to still bother doing the IUI. Depressing - the last analysis said he was great but around 5 mths ago. Now the docs are talking about IVF - I hate the whole idea of it.

Congrats Artesia - that's great. I've got those horrible progesterone things too but no wind!!wink Maybe that's a pregnancy thing?

HesterShaw Sat 13-Apr-13 11:45:10

Sorry to hear that WeeNoggi sad

It amazes me how much sperm samples can vary over a short period of time, both for the good and the bad. Re the IVF, what do you hate the thought of most? Might help to articulate it. And also, how invasive an iui have you been doing.

Personally I'm trying to look at probable ivf as just one step along from the iui. With this process I've just done the whole daily injections, triggers, scans and so on. Now I have the evil progesterone arse bullets hmm. But I know that some iui's are a lot less regimented than that.

Slainte Sat 13-Apr-13 19:28:36

Hi all
Promise to catch up soon but just wanted to hop in to say to Hester are you sure your pessaries aren't to be inserted vaginally? Mine were.

HesterShaw Sat 13-Apr-13 20:16:59

Nope defintely up the arse grin Believe me, I wouldn't go inserting things into my rectum without checking 100%.

Actually, it can be either, according to other MN inserters of progesterone bullets. But apparently, up the fanjo means more leakage. The bum holds onto them tighter.

Don't you just LOVE this process? [hmm[

HesterShaw Sat 13-Apr-13 20:17:36

Hmm fail. I'll try again hmm

WeeNoggi Mon 15-Apr-13 03:40:41

What happened Hester?

Not enjoying the leakage over here - it's greasy (bleugh tmi!!)

My IUI has been relatively straightforward so far: just one injection, a couple of ultrasounds & the leaky bullets.

I'd prefer to work on healthy living & improving DH's sperm count before contemplating IVF even if that means beating him with a stick until he goes to the pool for the first time in a decade

Only problem being that I turned 35 last month and feel like I fell off a big fertility cliff if you believe the literature!

HesterShaw Mon 15-Apr-13 10:28:38

35??? Try being 38!!!!
<rents own face>
<tears own hair>

What happened? In terms of the iui, you mean? Well, first I was on the pill for four weeks or so, to turn off my natural cycle. Then I had something amounting to a period. Then on day 2 of that I started daily injections for nine days of puregon and buserilin. Then I had a scan where they saw three follies. Then I did the trigger shot and then the insertion. And now the arsebullets.

So all in all, quite like ivf only not as long.

tillyann2013 Mon 15-Apr-13 11:23:47

Hi all, how you all doing? Those arse bullets sound nasty Hester. Who cares though if it gets you where you need to be eh?

My af is still missing in action, not a bloody inkling. Day 35. I'm wondering if the bleeding on day 15 was actually my af?? Flip knows what's going on with my dodgy 37 year old body!!!

ScarlettInSpace Mon 15-Apr-13 12:46:58

Hi everyone, thought I'd say helloooooo! I'm waiting to start in my opinion pointless IUI, CD22 today and assuming my cycle falls into the NHS timetable hmm and CD1 falls on Friday, Saturday or Sunday this weekend then off we go. Due on Monday but usually spot/sore boobage for 3-4 days so have plenty of warning if I decide to lie stretch the truth slightly on the actual CD1...

I'm 36, on cycle 27, 1 tube [R removed in 1999 following ectopic], AMH 4.22, FSH 12, diagnosis of DOR, 1 abandoned IVF last year [1 follicle] and 1 failed ICSI last month [got 3 eggs, they fertilised abnormally so baaaad eggs], IUI is the remaining funded option. Get 3 gos but they will abandon if dominant follie on R side due to lack of tube so could be on the IUI wagon for the next 6 months shock

Taking every supplement & vitamin known to man, including DHEA.

Also decided that I am going to live life as normal [for which read 'not stop drinking wine'] throughout IUI as I've put enough of my life on hold for all this and it just puts too much pressure on me otherwise...

Oh yes and I seem to have morphed into a grumpy, tearful, miserable witch in recent months sad

Phew didn't mean to take so long!!

HesterShaw Mon 15-Apr-13 13:35:43

Hi Scarlett. Makes you larf bitterly how your cycle needs to fall on a weekday doesn't it? You sound as though you have had a convoluted path and that's for sure.

What made you decide on the DHEA? I have been taking that too on the advice from other MNers who have had fertility treatment, but I know that it is frowned upon by others.

You can come and sit here in the grumpy, tearful, miserable witch corner if you like. I am prone to suddent fits of impotent fury though so you may not want to grin

I forgot to add when I said hello that I was supposed to start all this bollocks at Christmas, but they cancelled on the day because the consultant was ill, then the next round was supposed to start in January but they suddenly looked at my notes and saw that I had had unexplained allergies in the last few years every now and again, so they said no treatment for you until you get to the bottom of that. So I had to wait for another referral for that, and get this, there is no allergy clinic in the whole of Cornwall so I had to go back and forth to Plymouth. The consultant there couldn't get to the bottom of it so he wrote to the FC and said get on with it, she's no spring chicken, or words to that effect.

It's such a giant pile of streaming shit isn't it?

ScarlettInSpace Mon 15-Apr-13 13:55:17

Hiya hester

I was really undecided about DHEA, the day after the ICSI fail last month we went in to see my consultant [who is far more optimistic than me!] and as egg quality was top of the list as A Potential Problem as it was the reason the embryos were abnormal, she said she is not allowed to suggest it but if she could she would definitely recommend it in my case and would suggest I took 75mg per day, if she was in a position to say such a thing, which she's not wink wink

So I took that as a pretty big nudge grin

There is a chance the max stims I was on [with no down reg, I had a shitty response to buserelin the first time] compromised the egg quality but I am lying when I tell people I think that's the actual reason blush

So far so good, no Anchorman moustache or Brian Blessed voice changes to report, and I'm pretty sure my sex drive has gone up too. Which is probably a good thing.

That sounds like a lot of faffing about! Bet you wished you'd never told them about the odd sneeze in the past! I've been through the system pretty quick really, not sure how good that is though, I think the grumpy tears are often driven by a feeling of being on a fast ride that I can't get off and don't control [I'm a control freak] hmm

HesterShaw Mon 15-Apr-13 14:30:46

God, you've got that right! I was raging, absolutely raging!

I have heard that, that doctors won't recommend DHEA as such, but there is a lot of evidence to show that it could help. I have several friends whose AC worked first time and they were taking it. So you weren't taking it when you had you ICSI fail?

Luckily my nipples remain hair free gringrin and I had quite a low voice anyway.

Happilymarried155 Mon 15-Apr-13 19:54:00

Wow! I'm so glad I'm part of this thread, I didn't even know about this hideous arse bullets! At least il be prepared now! X

Artesia Mon 15-Apr-13 21:29:42

Happily if it makes you feel any better, I don't have greasy arse bullets I have wind-inducing squirty fanjo cream instead

Oh the glamour........

Happilymarried155 Mon 15-Apr-13 21:32:47

I can't wait ;) two weeks and counting!!!

tillyann2013 Mon 15-Apr-13 22:15:31

Why haven't I been given arse or fanjo bullets? Humph sad

HesterShaw Mon 15-Apr-13 23:03:02

Such a treat you're missing.

No honestly, I would ask if I were you. Joking aside, progesterone is given to give the womb lining all the help it can get after IUI and IVF. I think a reason IUI success rates have a bad rep is because some clinics seem to just squirt up the semen and hope for the best, when there is a lot more that can be done.

tillyann2013 Tue 16-Apr-13 06:48:52

I will def ask, every little helps!

HesterShaw Tue 16-Apr-13 10:22:00

As Tesco say. maybe you could pop into Tesco for them. "I'll have a packet of arsebullets please."

Artesia Tue 16-Apr-13 11:01:02

NOOO- don't get the arse bullets, ask for the windy fanjo cream! Honest, is ace. I (5'3, size 10) can currently outburp my 19 stone prop forward DP. he doens't know whether to be utterly horrified or strangely impressed by the noises emerging from me!

HesterShaw Tue 16-Apr-13 11:24:05

Don't forget, you don't HAVE to put them up your arse. The instructions give you a choice. I just obviously enjoy putting things up my arse.

Artesia you should record a rendition of the Frog Chorus and post it on YouTube.

tillyann2013 Tue 16-Apr-13 22:17:16

So, today I call the hospital from work, just to say I'm a bit concerned that my af is still missing in action. I'm now on cd 36 after abandoned iui this cycle. The nurse says, don't worry that's quite normal wen you're poly cystic. I replied I didn't know I was! Then my boss came in so I had to quickly hang up. Now, does that mean I was just poly cystic this time or always? Any ideas?

Artesia Thu 18-Apr-13 18:25:24

Tilly just seen your message. Afraid I dont know the answer, but I hope you managed to get hold of the hospital again for a better answer?

I swear the trials of getting and staying pregnant are some kind of cruel and gruelling preparation for a life time of worry as a parent. Just seems as though there is always something to fret about.

Hope all are well?

ScarlettInSpace Mon 22-Apr-13 09:12:03

Hiya folks, it's been quiet here over the weekend, hope everyone was enjoying the sunshine?

hester I was trying to tell myself I didn't neeeed DHEA so didn't start taking til after the last fail. Someone just put on FF that DHEA has been unofficially linked to gender confusion, WTAF does that mean??? How are you getting on, aren't you due to test this week?

tilly I would ring back and clarify, that would worry the hell out of me too!

FWIW I haven't been given any progesterone in any form to go in any orafice. I still have the full box left from last ICSI fail though. My prog has always been good though so maybe they don't think I need it. or maybe they just don't care <shrugs>

CD1 conveniently happened yesterday so my body has for once done as it's told and fallen into line. I start clomid today then scan on Thursday - I wonder if they will be able to tell then which side I will ov and whether or not I am allowed to continue this month? I wonder how many times my body can ov on the R in a row until the hospital tell me the L aint ever going to work [cue imending sense of doom]

Oh and I got a letter on Friday saying my last swab showed I'm a carrier of Group B Strepsomething. Just another thing thats wrong with me then, the universe is clearly persisting in diverting me from having a normal life at every bloody turn hmm

Goodness me what a misery I am today, sorry!!!

HesterShaw Mon 22-Apr-13 17:23:50

Group B strep something means you have to have medicine or something in pregnancy don't you? <vague> I don't think it's that uncommon.

I will be testing on Friday morning. Gulp.

I don't know what gender confusion is? Is it giving birth to an intersex baby, or having a transsexual child, or turning into a transsexual, or questioning your sexuality, or is it simply having hairy nips? no idea!

HesterShaw Mon 22-Apr-13 17:26:19

I know what you mean about the universe diverting you from a normal life. I knew from the second I started TTC that it was unthinkable that I should just want a baby, try for a baby, get pregnant, and give birth to a baby like other women do. And sure enough, three years later here we are. I also have a rare allergy which pounces with no warning which they can't find any cause of, I have a weird skin conditions which brings my skin up in angry red bumps and weals in the sunlight, I have scoliosis which is a curvature of the spine and makes it ache a lot. I'm also ginger! grin

tillyann2013 Wed 24-Apr-13 07:14:29

Hello all, hope you're all well?

I've called the hospital back and she's explained that they were polysystic this time only so no worries there.
I've decided to give my body a rest from the drugs for a couple of months as we have friends coming to stay and a holiday booked. I'm starting reflex and acupuncture too and
I'm also secretly hoping that if I relax and stop stressing that it nay happen naturally! No such luck I'm sure.
I hope you don't mind but I'll stay on the thread and hope to see some bfp's envyenvyenvyenvy

Happilymarried155 Wed 24-Apr-13 10:09:37

Good luck Tilly! Sounds like you have lots of lovely things planned. Wishing you lots of luck!
I have my appointment next Thursday and hope we should be able to start the iui straight away. Mixture of excitement that things are moving and nerves and dread at the whole thing! Trying not to stress though, keeping calm in key!
I have been doing Accupuncture and love it, I feel so relaxed afterwards!

Hope everyone else is ok! smile

WeeNoggi Thu 25-Apr-13 03:51:21

I'm with you all on the life not being simple! We always said we wanted to adopt and never really worried too much about ttc. Now we're finding that adopting is even more complex & difficult for us than the challenges most people have: we're not in UK.

So, then we thought maybe ttc would just be the answer but no, of course, that has to be a bloody nightmare too.

AF came this morning, 5 days late angry. Supposed to go back to clinic but might have a month off with Tilly as also going on holiday.

Artesia Thu 25-Apr-13 09:37:50

Sorry to hear that WeeNoggi. Hope you are ok (or as ok as can be).

Very impressed you are holding out on testing Hester- I tried but then cracked 3 days early!

Hope everyone else is ok


HesterShaw Thu 25-Apr-13 09:53:19

Part of me just doesn't want to see the negative stick. I know it will be negative. My boobs were agony a few days ago and now the pain has completely gone despite all the progesterone bullets. Must because my own natural levels have dropped.

ScarlettInSpace Thu 25-Apr-13 10:31:40

hester have everything crossed for you! I know what you mean re neg test. I tend to just POAS then throw it away without waiting for it to develop these days. I'm actually doubting that they really do even have a 2nd line tbh, I think they are just bits of cardboard wink Here's to you proving me wrong wink

Had my Day 5 scan today and the good news is I had a follie on each side [I was expecting them to see nothing on the left so we would have to abandon] start the jabs again tonight then back next wed for day 11, pleeeeease let the leftie keep going!

I'm feeling bad now that I've not done any of the usual AC prep and have drunk and eaten what i wanted in the absolute knowledge it was going to be abandoned blush

HesterShaw Thu 25-Apr-13 10:36:47

Am actually feeling really depressed and all "What's wrong with meeeeeeeee? Why am I a failure? Can't even do IUI?" etc

I have a horrid weekend coming up with a wedding which will be full of babies. After my BFN. Fuckaduck.

ScarlettInSpace Thu 25-Apr-13 11:29:57

but you will be able to get pissed <every cloud...>

HesterShaw Thu 25-Apr-13 11:36:43

Guess so <weak smile>

Perhaps I should Be Obnoxious and offend everyone.

Artesia Thu 25-Apr-13 12:55:42

Obnoxious and ofensive is DEFINITLEY the way to go Hester. Plus, make sure you look fabulous, even if you don't feel it. And I know it doesn't help at all, but you are not in any way a failure. Sending you a big un-mn hug and flowers

Hester- fingers very firmly crossed. I had given up any hope when I poas, because had all my usual PMT symptoms and boobs weren't at all sore. Will be thinking of you tomorrow morning.

HesterShaw Fri 26-Apr-13 15:10:40

Thanks for hope and support but it's a negative. Will have to get pissed and obnoxious.

ScarlettInSpace Fri 26-Apr-13 18:58:13

hester sorry to hear that, it's a shit one.

I think I'll also get pissed and obnoxious on your behalf if that's ok like I need an excuse

Artesia Fri 26-Apr-13 19:07:34

So sorry to hear that Hester- been thinking of you today.

Hope you are well on the way to pissed already, and if you want to hang out on here being obnoxious, I say go for it


tillyann2013 Mon 29-Apr-13 10:21:44

Sorry to hear your news Hester, hope you managed to enjoy the wedding.

My af is still missing in action, day 49! Hospital want to give be provera to bring it on. Anyone had this before?

Happilymarried155 Wed 01-May-13 19:13:20

So got my first appointment Friday to start the iui process.....,what questions to I need to ask?

On cd24 at the moment so hoping I should be able to start it next week!

Hope everyone is ok!

Artesia Wed 08-May-13 10:29:22

Just chicking in to see how your appointment went *Happily". Hope all was good and you've got started on it all

Hope all well with everyone else

Artesia Wed 08-May-13 10:29:35

checking even!

Happilymarried155 Wed 08-May-13 13:10:47

Went well, we have another appointment tomorrow to give us all the information that we need and then should start it in my next cycle!
Trying not to get my hopes but I've got everything crossed! smile

Artesia Wed 08-May-13 13:46:43

fab - got everything crossed for you too Happily

ScarlettInSpace Thu 09-May-13 19:55:00

Well after a super slow start [only 10mm by CD15 ffs] my follie had a growth spurt between Monday & this morning and it's nearly doubled at 18mm! Triggered straightaway and booked in for IUI tomorrow!

hester how are you doing, have you gone straight back in this month?

Artesia Thu 09-May-13 19:57:15

Great news Scarlett- will be thinking of you to tomorrow. Best of luck!

ScarlettInSpace Fri 10-May-13 09:57:07

Thank you!
Despite my cycnicism and general not-expecting-it-to-work-where-two-ivfs-have-failed I'm weirdly excited.

Is it wrong to be excited about a date with a posh turkey baster?

Artesia Fri 10-May-13 12:19:52

Not at all! Just don't do what I did- I got all nervous and over-chatty, babbling away to distract self.

When they had finished the iui the nurse said "right, I will leave you here for 10 minutes to lie down". The right answer would have been " jolly good. Thank you". Not, as I said, "what, you mean you don't want a cuddle and a cigarette now it's over?". Followed by ridiculous nervous giggling. I honestly have no idea why I said it.

Been back for check ups several times since, and can't look that nurse in the eye......

Happilymarried155 Fri 10-May-13 12:23:14

Scarlett...I feel exactly the same, I feel wrong for being excited but I can't help it! I think it's because it's a step in the right direction!

WeeNoggi Sat 11-May-13 07:46:54

I'm excited too! This month went a 1000* better than last month so fingers crossed for us all.

Happilymarried155 Sat 11-May-13 18:36:18

Fingers crossed indeed! I have to wait and see if I can start on my next cycle as in order to start iui I have to come on my period on either a Friday, sat or Sunday. If I don't they give me some drugs to make sure I do next time. Has anyone else heard of this?

ScarlettInSpace Mon 13-May-13 08:55:20

Well we IUI'd on Friday & got a couple of back up shags in on Sat & Sun so I think we've done all we can for this month!

Inital optimism has worn off so we'll have to see...

happily my clinic has the same starting protocol, however as my ovaries took an extra week to warm up it seemed fairly pointless to me. Its because a/ the lab don't work weekend & b/ they don't do theatre on a Friday afternoon so I think they try to shoe-horn IUI in then. Are you in West Midlands by any chance? I wonder if its an NHS thing or a CRM thing...

I spot for 3-4 days before CD1 so I had planned to <ahem> possibly stretch my CD1 one way or another as I don't want any more drugs than necessary, given the farce that was this cycle but luckily I started on Sunday this time, I would definitely do it though if i was within a day or so, they aren't going to check!

ScarlettInSpace Mon 13-May-13 08:58:04

PS/ artesia I actually LOL'd at your cigarette comment grin

Happilymarried155 Mon 13-May-13 18:42:43

That's useful to know Scarlett. Yes we are in the midlands so it must be the same! Does that mean that they don't actually do the iui at the weekends? If we get to start this cycle my dh will be away on what would be my day 14 but that's falls on a Saturday. She did say iui days tend to be a Monday or a Friday.

Good luck! I have my fingers crossed for you! Is this your first attempt?

ScarlettInSpace Mon 13-May-13 20:04:08

It's my first IUI but I've had a couple of nightmare IVF/ICSI's that failed epically, used our NHS funding up so consultant suggested we try IUI [as we get 3 go's funded] - she is much more positive than me lol! She thinks while I have eggs we should keep trying until we've exhausted all options, so I'm going along with her grin

The nurse told OH they don't do IUI at the weekend basically because there's no-one in the lab at the weekend hmm It annoys me that rthey want me to take drugs to screw up my cycle to fit in with their schedule, but I guess that's the NHS, one size fits all, which I understand [I just don't like!] If I was paying privately I'd expect a 7 day service wink

Happilymarried155 Mon 13-May-13 20:10:18

So does that mean they don't do the actual iui in day 14? Cuz if that was the case day 14 would fall at the weekend. I know what you mean though its quite annoying to have to take extra drugs, that's why I would rather start this month. I'm due on a Sunday but 14 days later my dh is away! Bloody typical.

Sorry to hear you have been through the mill, we have been ttc for just over two years, this is our first attempt.

Hope you have loads of things planned for the next couple of weeks to try and keep your mind off the 2ww!

ScarlettInSpace Tue 14-May-13 07:27:17

They seem to do it on day 13, 14 or 15 depending, in my case it was day 20! Although my sister did comment on how convenient it was that my follies had a growth spurt just in time for them to do it on a Friday hmm

I stressed and stressed about when I was starting and ultimately itcdydnt matter like I said - my body cooperated on the start day then took 3 weeks to grow the follies grin

OH's birthday this week so that's a distraction, to be honest though ive spent a lot of time googling so far blush and symptom spotting which I haven't done for ages!

Happilymarried155 Tue 14-May-13 19:23:12

I think il just have to wait and see!

Good luck, I'm always googling everything! It's such a nightmare! smile

BlindKitty Wed 15-May-13 11:11:27

Hi guys! Can I join in? Only know scarlett in here as usually only frequent the conception forum. I'm hopefully starting iui next month. Have there been any success stories in this thread yet? X

Artesia Wed 15-May-13 14:09:29

Hi Kitty- welcome to the thread!

I'm incredibly lucky as DP and I were successful with our first round of IUI- had a scan yesterday at 9 weeks 2 days, and so far all is looking really good.

Hopefully there will be plenty more success stories soon, as there are a few on here going through IUI at the moment.

BlindKitty Wed 15-May-13 16:53:18

artesia that's so reassuring to know. We're in same boat as you were, except we've been ttc for 2 years. I might have to bombarded with questions at some point, if that's ok? So, so pleased for you. How is the pregnancy going? X

Artesia Wed 15-May-13 17:45:46

Absolutely. Am no expert, but happy to help with any questions if I can.

Pregnancy all going pretty well so far- just ridiculously tired and eating like a horse. Struggling to just relax And enjoy it though- almost waiting for something to go wrong. Roll on 12 weeks and hopefully I will stop fretting quite so much....

BlindKitty Thu 16-May-13 02:49:41

artesia have you not had an earlier scan? Do they only offer that with ivf?

Artesia Thu 16-May-13 22:59:43

Had an early scan at 6+4 and saw the heartbeat, which was hugely reassuring, but the last one was more "real" in a way as it actually looked like a proper little person. S/he even gave us a little wave.

Just counting down to 12 weeks now, with everything crossed.

How are the 2ww'ers doing? Hope the days are flying past

BlindKitty Fri 17-May-13 02:42:32

artesia just re-read your post and noted you've already had an early scan duh! Did you get offered it or did you have to pay for it?

ScarlettInSpace Fri 17-May-13 07:26:46

kitty I think early scans are the norm with all assisted conceptions wink that's when the fertility clinic will discharge you to midwife/GP care...

art I can't believe it's been a week today, halfway there! Just need to sit on my hands for another week... Trying very hard to prepare for disappointment whilst thinking positive and believing it could work!

BlindKitty Fri 17-May-13 08:27:04

scarlett never got that far to find out but hoping for next months iui bfp (unless of course today's dh's swimmers hang around as ovulating on plane home from Thailand tomorrow). What happens if you're pregnant? do you just call the fc or does gp do it? Really praying for you.

Artesia Fri 17-May-13 10:14:03

Time seems to be flying Scarlett. Fingers crossed the next week goes quickly too. Are you going to wait the full two weeks to test? I swore blinding would, then caved on day 12!!

Kitty I had my iui done privately, so unfortunately had to pay for everything. They do a 6ish week and a 9ish week scan as standard though.

ScarlettInSpace Fri 17-May-13 12:53:57

i have to call the clinic then they will book me in for a scan 4 weeks later, if also is ok then they discharge me to gps surgery i guess... thanks for the positive thoughts x

Happilymarried155 Fri 17-May-13 15:20:29

I'm not going to able to start iui this month as period is going to arrive on a Monday! Trying not to be annoyed about it, it's only a one month delay!

BlindKitty Fri 17-May-13 15:31:31

artesia was it positive at 12dpo? Bet your so pleased you decided to fork out for it though!

happily how come it can't be on a Monday? Sorry , I'm very new to this whole iui thing!

Happilymarried155 Fri 17-May-13 16:13:09

At my clinic cd1 has to be on a fri, sat or Sunday. If it comes on any other day I have to take some drugs to ensure that it comes 28 days later on a fri-sun. It's all very complicated! Had got myself all prepared to start this month but never mind!

BlindKitty Fri 17-May-13 16:29:26

Oh that's rubbish! Maybe my clinic is the same?

Happilymarried155 Fri 17-May-13 16:33:57

I'm not sure, I think it's a pretty general thing in the West Midlands. Although on the plus side I have a lot going on in June and would probably be good to wait until July when I have a quiet stress free month!

ScarlettInSpace Fri 17-May-13 17:17:04

art I think if I make it to Weds I will be doing well, that will be 12pdiui, I really am impatient & want to know but on the otherhand I want live in the bubble of not knowing for as long as possible... Also have some big social plans for the Bank Holiday weekend so feel like the sooner I know the sooner I can plan my outfits [or, more hopefully, my excuses ggaaaaahhhhhhhhh]

happily personally I think I would stretch a Monday back to Sunday to be honest, but I think you said you OH may struggle with timings this month? take it as an omen, relax stop thinking about it [hahahahaha] and you might get your ironic BFP wink

kitty make sure you dtd the deed before you leave Thailand [last holiday quickie] and as soon as you get back [home sweet home quickie] and enjoy the fact you can still have quickies apparently they disappear once kids are around lol you will be covered on the mile high ov!

I was convinced I was going to come on on the Monday this time but the wicked witch arrived in full force the Sunday so didn't have to bend the truth in the end..

Happilymarried155 Fri 17-May-13 18:33:10

Yes in all fairness timings are not great this month and I'm going on holiday so would have had to do first injections abroad. I think it's probably fate and I'm glad the decision was taken out of my hands. Like you say you never know it might still happen naturally!

Scarlett I bet the waiting is driving you mad! It's so hard! I do so much symptom spotting!

BlindKitty Sun 19-May-13 04:56:42

happily I go to the Birmingham women's so quite possibly. You never know you might still have an ironic pre iui holiday bfp (that's what I'm hoping for)

scarlett dtd before we left but neither of us could face it when we got home yesterday. We were so tired we couldn't even face driving for the cat! Don't think I've ov'd yet anyway. How you feeling?

WeeNoggi Sun 19-May-13 08:13:49

Good luck Scarlett I'm 12 days past IUI on Tuesday. I can't bear POAS and seeing any more fricking single lines though so will take doc's advice to wait till Thursday.

May have to ask DH to confiscate the tests though smile

ScarlettInSpace Sun 19-May-13 10:12:02

Oooh good luck to you too! I find so long as I get past the first wee of the day I can tell myself doing a test any later in the day is pointless!

I said to OH about confiscating the tests, all I got was this face --> confused and 'Why don't you just not test until you're late?!' honestly, they have no idea!!

BlindKitty Sun 19-May-13 14:31:28

scarlett and wee dh only just realised I've started buying pg tests in 25 off amazon!!!

ScarlettInSpace Tue 21-May-13 10:59:14

Well I got a bit of spotting last night so looks like I'm out this month, now just got to hope it takes the usual 3-4 days and doesn't arrive fully until Thursday night/Friday so I can try again...

Artesia Tue 21-May-13 13:33:56

Sorry to hear that Scarlett, but don't give up hope- spotting doesn't necessarily mean is all over for this month. Fingers still crossed fo ryou

BlindKitty Tue 21-May-13 21:06:17

scarlett what artesia said! If it does arrive when can you do another iui?

My iui apparantly won't start until aug sad so fed up with waiting

ScarlettInSpace Wed 22-May-13 08:51:53

kitty that will be here before you know it, we're nearly in June now as it is!

Well AF has landed in full force, even I can't kid myself it's implantation, unless I'm implanting an elephant.

Am annoyed it couldn't wait until tomorrow when I could've pushed it to Friday for the clinic angry but I think I'm going to have a month off anyway.... My head needs a break!

art I'll be checking in to see how your 12week scan goes!

Good luck guys, see you in a month or so x

BlindKitty Wed 22-May-13 19:35:47

Scarlett left a message on the brooking thread. I'm really gutted for you. You take a (well deserved) break xxxxx

WeeNoggi Fri 24-May-13 02:17:35

sorry to hear that Scarlett

WeeNoggi Tue 28-May-13 05:22:31

OK, no digital tests in my part of the world but 7 progressively darker cheapo tests over 6 days makes a BFP, I reckon gringringrin

I'm really glad I've been on this thread. I was feeling really low up to this cycle. I also got cramps like Artesia - as if I was being stabbed in the gut. Feeling much better and less windy since finishing the revolting progestrone bullets though.

Now just a bit nervous because I took drugs to stimulate two follicles / eggs

Artesia Tue 28-May-13 11:56:11

Oh that's great news WeeNoggi- am so pleased for you!!!

And try not to panic too much - I had two follicles, but only one baby showed up on the scans not that you'd believe it if you saw the size of my tummy

Happilymarried155 Tue 28-May-13 18:12:48

That's great news!!! Congratulations! Hopefully this is a sign of a round of good luck! smile

WeeNoggi Wed 29-May-13 03:17:58

Yes I hope so Happily married

Artesia are you showing already? How many weeks is it now? Gosh - I'm hoping to keep things hidden for a while...

Artesia Wed 29-May-13 09:21:35

I do have a bit of a tummy, but not so much that people have started asking yet. think most of it is bloating at this stage, but hoping that will improve now am off the progesterone. Also, is my second, and apparently things pop out a bit earlier after the first time!

Am 12 weeks tomorrow - got my big scan on Monday.

Emzpng Wed 29-May-13 13:47:46

Hi everyone, I've been reading on forums like these for 2years now and eventually decided to register I have pcos but husband is fine, we have been ttc for 6 years befor we started iui last year I was on menopur last year when we done the iui and I had 3 folicles but it didn't work we waited a year and have just had second iui on Friday last week this time we used gonal f and had 1 folicle so I'm not feeling to positive ! I have 3 IVF cycles if this iui doesn't work , I'm around 5dpo and driving myself mad with symptoms :-( feel like it will never happen ! Even though I do feel different this time ?? Confused

Artesia Mon 03-Jun-13 20:33:06

Hello all. Thought I should update- had 12 week scan today and all looks good. So just to say, iui really can work, an I really really hope you all get your well- earned bfps very soon. Xx

Happilymarried155 Tue 04-Jun-13 19:52:21

Hi artesia,

That's great news! So pleased it went well! It's really great to have some positive stories it can be very overwhelming reading all the negative stories when your trying so hard to stay positive!

My iui will start around June 27th and as wierd as it sounds, I'm abit excited! It's great to finally have a date and a plan of action after 2 and a half years of uncertainty! I'm trying to not to get my hopes up but we have three rounds, so I'm hoping one of them will be successful!
Keep your fingers crossed for us all!

Artesia Wed 05-Jun-13 10:00:56

That's great news Happily- I know I definitely felt better as soon as I had a plan, and knew I was starting the iui. Will keep fingers very much crossed for you

HesterShaw Tue 11-Jun-13 11:25:46

Hello all, sorry I haven't been around and then barge back in. I've,been having a proper head in the sand -this-isnt-happening-to-me couple of months. Before I catch up, congratulations, Artesia, that's amazing news!

HesterShaw Tue 11-Jun-13 11:35:26

Looks like good news for WeeNoggi as well. It CAN work then grin

I've just finished my second round. Triggered last night and basting tomorrow. Does anyone know if it's possible to release an egg before the trigger shot has done its stuff, if your follies are ready to go? It's just....TMI alert....I seem to be awash with EWCM.

<trying to be lighthearted but actually a bit worried>

ScarlettInSpace Tue 11-Jun-13 12:57:30

Hi everyone, thread popped up again so thought I'd update smile to be honest I've given up for now, I just can't cope with feeling like such a failure on a regular basis. Ive tried to find something else to focus on, I've started yoga and Pilates, and I've taken up running again, just done a detox and I've lost half a stone so far, my aim is to lose the 2 stone I've gained since I started IVF/IUI last August before I even think about any more treatment...

hester the EWCM after trigger is totally normal, i think it was noks on the IVF thread referred to it as Gushington Central grin

I'm not on here much now, part of the disengaging process, and it's definitely helped with the mentalling, I do pop in from time to time to spy check everyone is ok grin

WeeNoggi Sat 15-Jun-13 07:26:28

Everything crossed for you Hester & Happily!

Sorry to hear you're feeling low Scarlett but sounds like you're doing the right things to help you feel better and be positive.

I hit some pretty low points too. In fact I'm sure that having a holiday and being really relaxed for this last round of IUI helped a lot.(I'm normally a raincloud of doom)

Plus the mad nurse who hit DH on the arm and said "good husband" because the sperm count was much higher had me in stitches.

I'm relieved to say it's just one bean on the scan. Bizarrely the doctor also diagnosed PCOS although I've had no symptoms, regular cycle & nothing identified on all the other 100s of diagnostic ultrasounds at 3 different centres confused

Happilymarried155 Sat 15-Jun-13 19:19:43

I'm about to start taking noretherstine (not sure of the spelling) which means my first iui should start 28/29th June. So glad we have finally got to this point.

Hope your feeling a little better soon Scarlett, I've had really low points too and it's just awful :-(

Good luck everyone else!

HesterShaw Fri 28-Jun-13 14:41:34

Arse. My second IUI has just failed. I'm so full of sadness. Another girl who has been trying as long as I have on another thread has had a BFP today - we tested on the same day. I'm so happy for her, but so full of sadness and rage for myself. Don't know really where to go from here.

Happilymarried155 Fri 28-Jun-13 18:36:47

Really sorry to hear that :-( I don't really know what to say that can make you feel any better. What are your options now? I hope you will be nursing a large glass of wine and lots of cuddles this evening though.

I am waiting for AF to arrive so I can start my first attempt. Had to take norethisterone for the last 10 days to make AF arrive within the next few days, so I can start the iui process,

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