The hut of gl/doom: ttc with the emphasis on trying!(976 Posts)
A supportive and slightly fluffy thread for those dealing with the issues of ttc longterm, whether with assisted fertility or not.
Hi all - a new thread as the old one was getting full.
I am planning and chocolate and chick flicks with a childfree friend this Friday, can't wait. What's everyone else up to?
Woo hoo, lovely sparkly new thread!
Let's hope it brings us lots of luck.
Thanks for starting the new thread Delilah.
How is everyone doing? We got the letter through for our first appointment with the consultant gynaecologist in a few weeks; not really sure what to expect. I've had blood tests, but DH was only able to get an appointment for SA for the day after, so worry that they won't be able to do much without it, and think we're wasting their time.
On a positive note it's nearly the weekend and I've ordered a lovely new bike so will sped the weekend on lots of lovely rides (not a euphemism )
Hi everyone. Hope you're all good, just wanted to say what a great thread - the old and new one!!
I'm really new to mumsnet but it's helped me feel better already to know I'm not on my own :-)
TTC nearly 2yrs. Clomid cycle No2 100mg not successful :-( so hard as last month on 50mg follicles only got to 6mm and this month nothing. Not ovulated in I don't know how long, having to take progesterone to kick start cycles. Moods ALL over the place and crying at the drop of a hat at the minute. PCO too which I didn't know I had.
Surrounded by pregnant friends which is lovely and I truly am so happy and excited for them all but we all know it's hard to be around sometimes.
Anyways, another scan on Tuesday then on to 150mg per day - anyone else get side effects off clomid?
Wishing you all lots of luck in your own situations
Hi mands you sound like me 12 months ago I did 8 rounds in the end no ov and no baby so ov induction x4 1 miscarriage and 1 failed ivf later I'm stimming for my second cycle. I didn't get any side effects of the clomid probably because it was doing jack to help at least your feeling it that's definetley a good sign fingers crossed x
Hi mands, welcome to the hut.
Going to get my bloods done today, hoping I won't have to wait too long for the results and that they show an improvement. Going for a nice wee lunch with DH first tho!
Thanks flixy and pinkapples these forums really do help. Flixy hope the bloods went ok yesterday and pinkapples I wish you lots of luck with your 2nd cycle.
What a lovely sunny day, whatever you're all up to I hope you have a great day.
Scan on Tuesday, definitely feeling more positive now. Going to chat to them about my side effects of clomid and whether there's any different treatments we can try maybe.
Take care x
Been in work since 7 am so I'm sleepy today! Looking forward to a nice glass of wine later and some nice nibbles too, mmmmm.
Had my bloods done yesterday, doc said he would phone with the results early next week and discuss them with me and if i need/want to see him again then I can.
Hope everyone's doing ok.
Heading to a baby shower now, wish me luck!
Have a good day x
Ooh new thread. Just typed out a long post for the old thread, woops!
Anyway - welcome to Mands - I'm a few months behind you, will start clomid tonight.
I don't feel very hopeful at all...we asked the nurse about the 25% of women who the drug doesn't work for and she told us 'the most severe cases' and then a few minutes later admitted that I was a very severe case.
I know that believing it will work and staying positive is really important, but right now I'm just a bit
Mands, I hope the baby shower wasn't too depressing for you, I think hearing about friends' pregnancies is actually the hardest thing about infertility because it is so bittersweet and that makes you feel guilty and so on.
Chair, when we went for the first gynae appointment they took more bloods and did a chlamydia test so we had to go back again about a month later for this one when they gave me the clomid, so it wouldn't have mattered whether DH had his SA done already or not. Yours' might be different of course but they'll probably just want to run a couple more tests on you and talk through all the stages of treatment. I hope it goes well.
Ok, off for some and a DVD I think. Big pyjamas and slippers on.
Evening all how was the baby shower? Not to bad I hope?
Been to my mums for dinner tonight theyve just taken down a wreck of a shed and ate having a beautiful patio with walls and a mini maze type thing more discussion about how th grand kids will be able to ride their bikes on it etc etc fingers crossed this one works makes me sad everytime they talk about it
Home now bath and tv with hubby no wine for me or beer for hubby I've banned him till egg collection not that it matters much but it makes me feel better
Vimto it is then
Hi all hope you're all ok?
Baby shower was hard. Even harder that it was my best friends. She text to ask what was wrong with me as I didn't seem happy. I tried so much to be 'normal'. Difficult when I'm over the moon happy for her but being surrounded by pregnant bumps and little babies was
Anyway the world doesn't stop turning!
Scan tomorrow. Going to ask about alternative treatments to clomid. Could have sworn I had ovulation signs a few days back but don't want to get hopes up.
Hope you're all ok, good luck with anything that's happening this week x
Baby showers are sucky aren't they? Last one I went to I dressed up to the nines - at least feeling glam when surrounded by 3 pregnant people and umpty million mums all talking babies let me feel more in control. I left early too and came home and had an argument with DH.
2 weeks until my blood test, just waiting now. Work very busy so that keeps my mind off things - although I do find myself daydreaming that this time it works.
I am already planning for this cycle to fail though. We have a massive trip to Australia/NZ planned for 18months time, and a couple of smaller holidays as well, and then it will be forward with the adoption route for me.
for the baby shower mands I'm lucky I guess I don't have any friends so don't get invited anywhere
Scan on Friday to check the size of the follies fingers crossed the egg collection next week hopefully
Busy at work so mind stays firmly off babies and ttc (an odd comment from
Someone working in a children's nursery) but I know I can give the bad ones back at the end of the day
Hi Mands - welcome to the hut. I'm pretty new round these parts too, it's v useful, and good to have a place where no matter how bonkers I feel I'm being, others (probably) understand. Baby showers are grim at the best of times, and I'm sorry this one was even harder for you.
Thanks for the advice on the first appointment Summer, I wasn't sure if they would do any poking about at this stage...
Oh goodness, so many people saying stuff that I totally identify with in the hut this evening! Mands your so brave going to a baby shower, I don't think I could do it!
Hi everyone new to the Mumsnet forums. Wanted somewhere to get off my chest all the crap about IVF where people actually understand. So good to read the posts and realise you're not the only one going through all this. After what seems like a lifetime finally at egg collection stage!!!!! Had scans almost every day as the cells just weren't getting much bigger. Praying and praying that this works, found the whole process difficult enough not sure I could deal with the rejection of it not working! So sad to hear when IVF doesn't work for people. Hope you're all having a good day .
I've stupidly pulled muscles in my back turning and flipping our king size mattress by myself so am off work today and on the sofa resting up. Plenty of time
stalking browsing mumsnet.
For reasons I can I only attribute to taking lots of painkillers, I somehow found my way onto the silvercross website and have chosen my pram and car seat for the non existent child I'm having! Oh dear.........
Hi everyone, good day? Flixy hope your backs ok?
Just back from scan. No follicles again and not ovulated going to triple dose of clomid despite depression side effects. We have to as triple is the highest dosage they'll do so if I don't do it I'll always think what if... At least I can plan for my 'low' days. If triple dose doesn't work then back to consultant, maybe laparoscopy to check tubes not blocked? Anyone had this? Then the nurse mentioned other treatments to get me ovulating, injections maybe? Feel ok, we have decided to take everything step by step in hope our positivity will stay.
Just wanted to say I know we're all at different stages of various treatment, with good news and bad but can't believe how much this helps - reading your stories and just venting! So thank you
Take care, I'm here to help if I can x
Welcome infamous woohoo for egg collection I should be there next week go for a day 10 scan on Friday
Sorry to here that mands you seem to be taking the exact route I did not sure if that's a a good thing or not I guess I can support you'll hopefully you'll get there long before your at the stage I'm at. I had a lap and dye with diathermy last July which found nothing other than my enlarged pcos ovaries. Then 4 rounds of injections which weren't to bad to be fair. I got preggo on the last one but miscarried then moved onto ivf
Fingers crossed for you!
Lap and dye with diathermy?! What's that pinkapples?!
Can I ask those of you who are under going IVF what treatment you tried before that?
Thanks everyone x
Welcome infamous & good luck for the egg collection!
Sorry to hear about your scan today Mands. We were also told that if clomid didn't work the next step would be injections - they're the same injections that you get when you have IVF, so basically trying to produce lots of eggs rather than just one as clomid is supposed to.
But fingers crossed the triple dose will work for you and there'll be no need for that.
Well I just took my 3rd clomid pill, no side effects yet which I kind of view as a bad thing!
Delilah hope you get good news after your next blood test. I think it's important you still make future plans, good to have things to look forward to. And NZ/Oz is certainly exciting!!
Summer I think clomid works differently with everyone, I've heard so many success stories on it. It's not working for me but that doesn't mean it won't for you. Try to stay positive.
Chairofthebored when's your 1st appointment? Hope you're feeling ok
Afternoon ladies, hope your all keeping well today. Just off the phone with my doc, all my bloods have come back completely normal and within normal ranges. My prolactin has fallen from 2500 to 127! Just to keep taking the medication and wait for AF...........
Woohoo that's a good sign flixy!
I'm cross cuz I wrote a message on here earlier and it didn't send
Anyhoo a diathermy mands is where they drill holes in the ovaries (I had 4 holes per ovary) to try and balance the hormone levels. Your supposed to be most fertile in the first 3 months after it
Mine failed as I didn't get pregnant then I went onto the jabs which werent so bad :-)
Oh flixy that's brill! So funny how it happened right after that disheartening appointment with the private doctor - almost like fate was trying to get your hopes down in order to get them right up again!
Mands you are totally right about staying positive - DH is always drumming into me how patients who believe their treatment will work have a higher success rate, and every morning wakes up with "are the drugs working? they are, aren't they?"
Don't know about that but I'm having the weirdest and most vivid dreams, anyone else get that with clomid?! (I take them just before going to bed)
What's going on with you pink, can you be arsed to type the message out again?
Great news about your bloods flixy! x
Hello all, I'm still lurking
Just wanted to say that's great news flixy! Hopefully now it's back in range it'll kick start your ovaries!
Good luck for Friday pink.
Thinking of everyone.
I'm doing ok, 7+5 today, puking like a good 'un and exhausted! Just willing down the time to 12 weeks and impatiently waiting for my 12 week scan!
Awww nice to hear from you faith glad your doing ok
Yea well I wrote about the diathermy in answer to mands
General countdown to Friday feel sick today and have a black and blue belly from the injections... Nasal spray is doing my head in I can taste it every time I do it been reading articles about 2nd gos. At ivf but not really helping much really want a brew and a biscuit but am attempting to stay strong woohoo me! Not
And am opening a new building at work for our toddlers but the stuff hasn't been delivered and I'm likely to be off next week for the open evening not a happy bunny!
Aw, not too long til Friday, then you can treat yourself
Glad you're doing well faith, I think for once puking all over the place is a good sign!!
Hello shiny new thread!
I'm still counting down to starting sniffing - just want to get on with it now. I know I should be making the most of the calm before the storm but I just feel in limbo. Only 5 days to go though
Sorry you're feeling pants pink, have a virtual Friday hug from me x
Happy Friday all. We have our first appointment next week and have already had nosy coleagues trying to guess why I've a day out of the office for medical reasons. Alas given my age tehy probably suspect I'm already pregnant and going for scans and whatnot - yet another entry on the list of cruel ironies...
What is everyone up to this weekend?
Oh Chair, let them gossip away. No doubt they'll concoct all sorts of craziness... I hope the first appointment does go well though and you have some sort of treatment plan put in place quickly.
Well I've finished my first course of clomid, scan on Wednesday to see whether anything's happening or not. Even if I don't ov this cycle it'd be nice to see some sort of activity...
DH and I are going for a mini break to the countryside this weekend, lots of chill time, the weather forecast is crap so suspect we'll be curled up at the B&B for most of it! Happy Friday!
I'm going to be making the most of my last weekend off the wagon before I start my first cycle properly. There's some beer in the fridge and I shall be attempting to persuade DH to order pizza instead of cooking <lazy>
I love the sound of your weekend Summer, it's lovely to be tucked up somewhere cosy while the weather rages outside! Happy Friday to you
Chair - ignore people at work, let them wonder for a while! good luck with your first appointment, mine was so informative and eye opening.
Summer - hope your first scan goes really well, keep us posted.
I had a meeting at work about my not so nice side effects on what will be triple dose clomid and they're relieving the workload a bit which is great.
We've just ordered a curry, wine in the fridge and 2 dvd's! We're saving for a deposit on a house so trying to spice up out nights in!
Wishing everyone a lovely weekend x
Ps Devil I hope you get the pizza!
Evening all I'll second that about the snuggling up when it's raining
Scan went well this morning I have about 15 follies between 14-17mm so egg collection on Tuesday.
I'm also going to enrolment for my masters in education studies on Monday not sure if I'm taking on to much I think not it's 2 nights a week 6-8.30pm 1 and a half hours commute ish so won't interfere with work I may be mega tired the 2 days but it'll be worth it... I figured I can't put things off forever and if it happens and I get regnant then it happens but if it doesn't I don't want to be the one to look back and think I wasted time by not doing it... Is that rational and normal??
Bloody well done pink! I think rational and normal goes out the window with fertility ishoos but your plan sounds good to me. I did a part time PG Cert a couple of years ago and it was hard work but absolutely worth it.
I didn't get pizza but am hopeful for tonight, ever the optimist
I'm in need of some advice and wonder if anyone can help.
I have a wonderful friend. She's 49 and has spent years trying for a baby. She's had some 12 miscarriages in 14 years, they've tried AI, IVF with donor eggs and her own and she has even had an exploratory operation to find answers as to why she can't carry but there's just no explanation. They went down the adoption route but it difficult as her DH has 2 children from previous marriage.
Now due to her age she has come to the end of the road with trying. She doesn't want to foster or try adoption again.
My issue is that I am now pregnant (26weeks) and I am riddled with guilt that I have what she so craves. She can't see me because of how much it upsets her. She doesn't have any friends with babies or young children and walks away from family members who have them too.
I'm desperate for her to be part of our lives as my DP left me 10 weeks ago so I am now doing it alone. I know she would be a wonderful part of my DDs life if she just allowed herself. Is there anything I can do? Should I just leave her? I feel like I've lost a surrogate mum :-(, am I being selfish? Can anyone help me understand how she's feeling?
I love her to pieces xxx
Hi sorry for your dilemma I don't think this is the right thread for you since all of us are ttc we are probably in your friends shoes I'd check out the other boards although i would say if I nada dear friend who was pregnant I would still want to be part of their lives I would just talk to her and tell her how you feel...
In other news I can't decode whether or not to go to uni or not now I will miss the first 2 weeks so have emails the lecturer and asked if I can be sent the stuff if not I'll have to withdraw and try again next year
Yeah, sorry Flumpy but we may not be that much help. I feel the same as pink really. I've always tried not to let ttc take over my life and have pretty much come to terms with the idea that I may not have children. The day I found out we were unlikely to conceive naturally I was visiting a friend and her toddler. I'm not going to pretend it didn't hurt but it did help me get things clear in my head. I don't want other people not to have children I just want one as well! It really sounds like your friend needs counselling to come to terms with things. Most clinics seem to offer this as part of the treatment package but only you will know if you could gently suggest this to her. If it helps one of the worst things is feeling upset about someone being pregnant but feeling bad about being upset.
In my other news I got pizza last night, enjoyed a final bottle of wine, have made some scones and am counting down to starting sniffing on Wednesday. Woo!
Have just done my final sniff of this cycle! will not miss it
HCG in 2 hours ready for Tuesday have decided uni is a no go as I do not want to be the heavily pregnant student (wishful thinking) and if I lost it I would blame myself for taking on to much do have decided to put it off till next year I have a new toddler unit at work to look forward to developing so I'll be busy either way
Thanks mands I'm glad your work was so supportive about clomid issues.
Pink, that's absolutely brilliant news about your follies, I hope it all goes really well tomorrow and there'll be no need for any more of that bloody sniffing!
I'm definitely in the - don't put life on hold while TTC - camp but I think you probably made the right call in the end about uni, as you said you are going to have a lot on with your new toddler unit either way and you don't want to exhaust yourself too much.
Uni will still be there next year and every year after of course (and I'm really, really hoping that you won't be doing it for a few years cause you'll too busy looking after a little baby...)
Weekend away was lovely, lots of hiding from the weather and a bit of getting soaked to the skin in it!
Hey all. Just signing in after our first appointment. We saw a nurse, who was lovely, and took our histories (again) and ordered scans, more bloods and chlamydia tests. Am really pleased I'd asked my GP for a copy of all of my blood test results to date, as they hadn't been sent through. It turns out my Day 21 test showed I hadn't ovulated that cycle which is not great, but at least good to get a step towards understanding what might be going on.
So, a bit of a sense of 'hurry up and wait' but feels good to have got things moving, and she was able to give a clear sense of the times we'd have to wait until the next appointments.
Woohoo currently sat in the hospital car park waiting as the clinic doesn't open till 8am. Dreading the same result as last time
With only one fertilised feel really sick as no eating since 8pm last night HUNGRY is not the word
Just popping in to say good luck for today pink! I'll be keeping everything crossed for you and your oeufs x
Ooh good luck pink! Hoping for lots of lovely fertilised eggs!
Good luck pink, I have many things crossed for you.
I'm still lurking so just want to say sending mega positive vibes for today pink!
Hello to everyone else <waves>
Mega mega luck pink!!!!!!
Glad your appointment went well chair, it's always good to be moving forward with treatment.
Waves at faith and everyone else!!!
Hi everyone back home now have 9 usable eggs so well see what tomorrow brings they'll do the icsi this afternoon apparently then I get the dreaded call between 8-10am tomorrow fingers crossed we get more than one fertilised this time
Woop! Still have everything crossed for you and the eggs. Hope you're stuffing your face now
Pink I am crossing everything crossable for you!!!!
Fingers and toes crossed for you Pink hope everyone else is doing ok too.
I've been researching IVF, jumping the gun maybe but pretty sure this last dose of clomid won't work. With regards to hospital appointments and IVF - I'm guessing lots and pretty regular? Just want to keep work in the loop as much as poss.
Hope your weeks are going ok x
Ivf is not a really that many You have a consultation ap then a day 0 scan then a day 10 scan (possibly a 3rd scan depending on follie size 2/3 days later then an ap for egg collection and another ap for transfer
Ah pink 9 usable eggs is brill. Everything crossed over here too - hope you don't have a hard time sleeping tonight and the call comes early!
Hi please may I join? 2yrs ttc. One yr seeing gynaecologist. 1st time saw nurse who said bmi (40) needed to be 35 or less. 2nd time bmi 33.6 told needed to be 30or less even tho I have written evidence. Had internal ultra sound but hospital not happy with it (or blood tests that said not ov) as done by drs/local hospital and not hospital. Promised me scan and haven't done it. Go back on 4th Oct but bmi only 33.1. Cycles hideously irregular (12-17 days generally) and super heavy periods but specialists comment was "well if you want that sorted the only thing we can do is put you on the pill but that won't help you get a baby". Have put complaint in to pals tonight. But feel so battered and bruised. Feel like that night 25months ago when we said let's do it and try for a baby was the start of such a shit time in and it should have been so happy. God I'm so sorry. What a bloody miserable post I have just written! You'll never let me join.
Wonderful news, 9 eggs pink! I'm so pleased for you let the fertilising begin!
Hi waiting! <waves>
What a rough time you've had I hope PALS get things loving for you because they really should be looking at your gynae history in more detail. I think I'd be pushing for a lap and dye in your position actually. Well done on what is clearly a huge weight loss! I had to work to get my BMI under 30 for an IVF referral and fell pregnant after I lost the weight - I was about 10lb over though. I think you'll be in glad company here.
Hi havea the specialist won't "allow" me to have it til I'm under 30bmi. I can't seem to get them to understand I want my cycles sorting as much as I want a baby. All that excitement of my cycle last months and this time its lasted 12days
Hi waiting my bmi is 30.9 and over the last 5 weeks I've lost a stone so dong know what it would have been before that. However this is my second go at ivf do I was a stone heavier the first time. I think if you get a good clinic they'll refer you anyway as no one ever mentioned my weight to be except when I was converted about it and the go consultant said do you want to be thin or do you want to be pregnant. Obviously my answer was obvious and that's all that was ever said well see if the extra stone mattered this find I guess.
Off work today as in pain from egg collection can't remember the last one so don't know if it's any better/worse. Just get to wait now for the dreaded fone call don't know what I'll do if they say only 1 fertilised as this was icsi well see and I'll let you know when I do have a lovely day
I know it doesn't mean much unless they implant but it's a bloody good start compared to last time x
Oh brilliant pink! How many will they transfer? Certainly sounds like this treatment method has worked far better for you. All that sniffing has helped!
What great news pink - I'm so pleased for you! We're only at the start of all this fertility fafffery, and its so encouraging to hear good news!
Welcome waiting - you're very welcome here, and well done on your weight loss so far, it sounds like a tough job, but every little will help. I hope you get some more supportive advice and help soon.
My local hospital don't hang about. Had our first appointment on Monday, DH had SA on Tuesday, and the letter for our next appointment arrived last night. I now need to make sure I book in all the things they've sent me for (swabbing and blood tests) in time. I snice to get a sense of things moving forward after being in TTC limbo for so long.
Is nice ever, not I snice. Whatever snicing may be.
waiting while I think moving from the 'obese' range to 'overweight' helps, I don't see why they won't check your tubes in the mean time?! There's no justification for that! They could refer you for an HSG to be done as you lose continue to lose the weight. I understand the justification with IVF - it's not about success rate of fertilisation but the risk in pregnancy when you're obeseb- increased risk of miscarriage, GD etc. obviously they can't stop obese women getting pregnant but they won't actively do if (certainly in my PCT you have to have a BMI under 30 to be referred) but in your situation, refusing to to tests until you're a certain weight smacks of discrimination! If they don't justify why they have out that stipulation in, I'd challenge that. I hope having PALS on your side will give you a voice. You sound quite weary from the whole process!
That's fantastic pink! I'm so pleased for you Keeping everything crossed for the next stage.
Hello Waiting You're allowed to be as grumpy as you like in here, we understand. We've all got our own issues but we're in the same boat (or more accurately hut!). I know how hard it is to keep pushing for referrals etc and being told different things by different people.
My news is that I started sniffing today and got my first migraine in 15 months two hours later. Lovely. Desperately hoping it's a one off or at least things will settle down as my body gets used to the drugs. Did anyone else have nasty side effects?
Woohoo devil for the sniffing not so much for the migrane thou I didn't have many other than mega mega tiredness and mood swings the last week or so hopefully you won't get those tho I was sniffing for about 6 weeks
Whether it was the weight loss, the sniffing or who knows what, that is absolutely FAB. Will they all be implanted or will some be frozen? (Ignorant - and now having visions of you as octomum)
Devil - Sorry to hear about the migraine, they are so hideous. Hopefully it is a one off as your body gets used to it
Waiting - Welcome to the hut, and never apologise for being grumpy. It sounds like you have really been put through the wringer. I hope that your complaint gets your hospital moving - I'm guessing you don't live near enough a different hospital that you could ask to be referred to?
I had a little good news myself today too - the scan showed a 16mm follicle on my left ovary. No guarantee that an egg will come out of it, but it's a darned sight better than nothing!
That's fantastic Summer! I shall find some more things to cross for you
I'm feeling a bit better now, at least there's a reason for the migraine and if they do continue I shall speak to the clinic and get a plan in place with work to minimise the impact. I'm happy as long as I've got a plan!
Wow summer there should be an egg in there my clinic always said if it was 16mm or more it was almost guaranteed.
They still say they'll only put 1 back they will freeze the rest I imagine I'm still going to push for putting 2 back tho although I don't think they will I guess it depends on the quality of the embies
Brilliant news summer and pink!!!!
Really gives me hope to hear good news for a change! x
Thanks all for your comments, that's exactly what my argument is about getting tests etc done. If that is their decision for ivf fine. But not for scans/clomid etc. I do feel so fed up of it. Just hoping that pals will help my fight a bit. X
just popping in to see how my old Hut-mates are getting on. Looks like we have some stuff happening of late.
waiting welcome to the Hut, you will find this place very supportive and a great place to come and let it all out. I too had a nightmare with my PCT, though in a different way and so I can sympathise with the frustration that you feel. I found the things that got me through it were using my anger to keep fighting and pushing for what I was entitled to and coming in here and calling my Consultant lots of unsavoury names
welcome to anyone else who has become resident since I moved on to pastures new. For those of you despairing it took me two and a half years, lots of tests and some surgery to finally get pregnant - I am now 19 weeks, with a bad back and nausea which I am trying to be grateful for in an 'at least I am pregnant' way.
Oh pink you've made me feel so much more optimistic, the nurse that did my scan was a bit 50/50 about it. I'd be pushing for two as well if I were you, but then again I quite like the idea of twins
Queen thanks for popping in, it's always lovely to hear from graduates of the hut! 19 weeks, I guess that means you can tell everyone now too, how very very exciting it all must be!
mornin' all. Can I be cheeky and ask a question? Oh, I just did. I'll ask another.
Following our first appointment, with startling efficiency I now have three seperate test dates booked (including one with the intimidating dildocam) and a follow up appointment in 7 weeks to discuss the results and agree the next steps. It's great that things are moving so quickly, though we're both a little surprised.
I was wondering if I should tell my boss - simply becuase I don't want them worrying I've got something dreadful, or that I'm using 'tests' as an excuse to go for interviews?
I'm fairly lucky in that I am pretty autonomous in terms of setting my own workload, and can work form home on the days of my appointments and fit work in around them, but still, I'd like to be honest if I can.
On the downside, I don't really want people knowing - we haven't even told the in-laws yet, or my Dad, so feels odd confiding in my boss.
So, the question: What did you all do about work and the time you needed for appointments?
I've been really lucky in that my appointments have been either first thing in the morning, or at lunchtime, or at the weekend so it hasn't caused any issues with work at all.
If you feel that you know and trust your boss enough to tell them what your appointments are for then by all means go for it. Alternatively you could fudge it and say something like you've got some hormonal problems, nothing serious, but the docs want to run a few tests to see what's going on.
If your boss is female she'll probably be very understanding, and if male the minute you bring up the words hormones or women's problems he probably won't want to know anything further! (Massive generalisation I know)
In terms of confiding in your boss before anyone else knows - I've told pretty much everyone except the in-laws
PS In ref to your post on the other thread about the dildocam - I've been asked to have an empty bladder twice, the other time nobody mentioned anything about the state of my bladder. I'd take a full one along if I were you; you can always empty it at the last minute
For the tests I just said I had hospital appointments which was all I needed to do to get the time off. When we got the go-ahead and dates for IVF I told my boss and HR (who have both been lovely). I figured that previous to that it might come to nothing and anyway was very straightforward in that I just needed the time for the appointments.
Once treatment started I wasn't sure how I would react and how much time I would need off so though it was only fair to tell them so they knew what was going on. Again they've been fantastic and it's lovely to know I don't have to worry about that side of things. My parents and inlaws don't know and we're planning on keeping it that way for the time being. The way I see it is this is a physically and emotionally demanding process and it's up to us to decide who we need to tell along the way.
Chair - I was in your situation a while ago. I would definitely recommend telling work. If you're anything like me you'll start to feel bad taking time off / leaving early / coming in late (even though we shouldn't).
I felt a lot better after because then my colleagues understood if I wasn't myself etc. Also you may not know the side effects of treatment and how you may feel so similar to you I am able to work from home sometimes which helps.
I'm a little bit further down the road in terms of treatment, clomid doesn't seem to be working for me so will be trying something else soon.
For me the more people who knew the easier things have become. Most of our family and friends now know and I'm glad to be honest.
Your work have to allow and support fertility appointments, as they would and will when you're pregnant.
Good luck. Hope everyone else is well x
Feeling good today still a bit woozy after the egg collection feel like my stomach is in knots still but the eggs were slightly larger so may have something to do with it.... No news from the clinic today so maybe all 8 are fighting on... Anyone know whether clinics tend to phone if we lose any?
Hope you get good news soon pink x
Sorry pink no idea Assume they would phone if you lost enough for them to be worried about this cycle though? When does implantation happen?
Totally natural for your stomach to be in knots, I'd be nervous and excited as anything in your shoes.
They plan the transfer for 10am on Sunday and said they'd phone if they identified the best embryo before then. I'm hoping they all get to Sunday then we can pick the best and freeze the rest. I just wondered if they would phone and say however many have arrested or not developed. I don't know no news is good news I guess so hopefully theyre all still there like you say I think theyd fine if they had to move the transfer forward
That was meant to say they'd fone
Just popping back to say a huge woooo for pink And say i am still thinking of you all, and good luck one an all!
Its really nice to see some in the hut, it supported me for a long time While I lurked, and when i eventually got around to posting, simply by telling me i was not alone.
Good luck one and all (I used to post under BBwolefs btw)
Hi everyone, not been on here since I was going in for egg collection. Just been catching up on how you're all doing. Congrats Pink!!!!!! 8 fertilised is amazing! We have 7 eggs from the egg collection and 3 of them were fertilised at grade 1 so we didn't make it to Blastocyst stage but were very happy with 3 good eggs. Had 2 put back in so very very excited now. Currently playing the waiting game now. 6 days and counting until the preg test nervous and excited at the same time. Will be at work when we can phone for the results so going to wait until I get home before we phone, as doubt will be able to concentrate at work whatever the news! We had out treatment at Manchester and we cannot praise them enough they were fantastic. We've had the rest of the treatment through Halifax and have been disappointed with the customer care there, however Manchester were perfect with every step of the way and very sensitive about the parts of the treatment I was struggling with. Such lovely staff. The embryo transfer went so smoothly and was over and done with in around 5 minutes, again fantastic staff so kind and caring, and was lovely to see our two little embryos on the scan screen .
Needing to wee more than usual and when I need to go I feel ready to burst, not sure if this is due to the pessaries. Also woke up feeling nauseous today for about an hour and couldn't bear to eat anything so had some milk instead. Anyone else found this too? Is this a good sign or simply side effects? I think the hospital said that if I have any side effects not to see them as pregnancy signs as it's probably too early for that yet?
Apologies for the long message it's been a while! Hope everyone is OK x
So great to have some inducing news in the hut.
Thanks for everyone's advice about work - I think I will tell my boss, as my appointments will require some re-jigging of work stuff, and want her to know I'm not being slack. Just have to pluck up the courage...
Still, its Friday, I've got the day off, so it's the weekend already! What is everyone up to?
Day off here too! But we've got relatives staying this weekend and I have a list as long as my arm of things to get done around the house and garden, so I should probably stop slacking off on the internet and get to it...
Pink, I think you're right, no news is good news. Hopefully sunday morning comes round quickly for you!
Mrs Jones, such an exciting time for you as well! I really, really hope that your needing to wee and nausea are symptoms of a baby/ies (!) on board!
Hope everyone else is well and looking forward to a couple of relaxing days
Happy Friday everyone! Am on my phone so can't see posts to reply to everyone but its great seeing everyone being positive and happy . I'm doubling my medication from next week as my consultant told me to after 4 months if i had no AF. Was hoping it wouldn't get to this bit alas it has!
No news from the hospital still must b good then should have the pick of all 8 then hopefully
I was just popping in here to see if you'd heard anything pink . Hope all goes smoothly tomorrow.
Hopefully the extra drugs will do the trick Flixy!
wave to everybody else, hope you're having good weekends in the sunshine.
No more nasty side-effects here so far, just a dry mouth and a bit tired. Had a very good day at work yesterday and off out for a curry with DH this evening. Sat here looking v glam with my hair in a clingfilm turban at the moment in preparation
Awww have fun devil
No, no news
I'm still hurting though so an going to speak to the clinic tomorrow when I go its a really weird sensation like a really bad ache I'm still going to the toilet I think it's cuz the follies were bigger this time that's all I'm hoping it is
Just popping in to say good luck today pink. I really hope it all goes well, and for you too, devil - love the clingfilm turban
On the way back from the clinic now with a 4AA blastocyst on board embryologist and nurses were very positive and have 6 blastocyst frosties so fingers crossed
Any advice though from those ivf ers on the 2ww clinic said resume normal activities but Internet and others say no driving/sex/orgasms/baths/hard work strenuous activity?? Any ideas? I plan a chilled week anyway since I have it off work I might as well use it I just wondered
Ooh pink, hoping for a sticky blastocyst or two! I guess I'd be careful but not overly cautious. Give it a few days to settle, especially since you've had pain.
All the best pink!!! Take it easy today, you deserve it!
Oh pink I am hoping so hard this is your cycle!!
Obviously never done IVF but I'd say relax as much as poss but anything you're particularly worried about, check with your clinic. I can't imagine that things like driving or baths (provided not ridiculously hot) could be a problem but I might avoid strenuous activity. Sex - erm, depends just how strenuous!
I've had a sort of painless ache (if that makes sense) in my lower left side for most of today, it's probably just that I ate too much last night but I'm really, really hoping it might be something to do with an egg!
Woohoo fingers crossed for a little egglet
Wishing you lots of luck pink! Stay positive hope everyone's ok and had a lovely weekend x
Evening everyone! Not long until we hear the long awaited news! Just 4 days until the pregnancy test such an exciting yet nerve-wracking time for us! Hope everyone else is good .
Thanks Summer, hope you got everything done around the house before the relatives arrived. Good luck I really hope that the aching youre getting is an egg !!
Hi Flixy, hope doubling your medication helps, stay positive !
Hi Devil sounds like youre having a nice weekend, glad the side effects arent too bad for you .
WOW! Congratulations Pink, thats great news!! Good luck hun ! Doctors and nurses just advised me to act as though Im already pregnant, i.e. take it easy, avoid foods you would if pregnant, light exercise nothing too strenuous and no smoking/alcohol, etc. Im doing everything the same more or less just watching what I eat and have cut out booze and smoking. Im doing nothing more than walking and have regular breaks if driving for more than 2 hours. As for sex they said to use contraception or avoid it all together until we get the results of the test. That is what I was advised to do following embryo transfer.
Hi Mands, hope youre OK and having a good weekend too x
Oh infamous how exciting we'll I'm eating normally healthily as I'm still watching what I eat I'm not putting that stone back on... Yet anyway I don't smoke or drink and am not going to work this week so the 2ww is going to go even slower for me I bet
Never mind glad all is well have a good day
Hi pink Just popping in quickly to say good luck - got my fingers crossed for you for the 2WW.
I had my blood test today. Now praying I get the right results (cytokines lowered) before the start of my next period so I can cycle next month.
I'm on the short protocol, which I've not done before, so no down-regging but straight into stims hopefully.
Got to phone on Friday and the results will hopefully be in.
That's good then Delilah hopefully all will be ready to go tbh I don't really know about the protocols just that I've done the same thing twice with extra sniffing the second time x I've watched nearly all my tv and am trying so hard not to venture into the kitchen for a binge small sausage roll an homemade mini quiche for lunch and water all day hmmm need an alternative for Special K tho I've had enough of it now I just loathe the box in the mornings but still force it down...
Am alternating between sitting slightly up and lying down as not to get a bad back hopefully that's alright I can't see as a extra 25 degrees will hurt
Eternally bored x
Hey pink - just popping in to say I've got lots of things crossed for you, and including you and your 4AA blastocyst in my prayers.
Am steeling myself for the 'chat' with my boss later this week. I've got so many appointments coming up in the next few weeks that I think I need to explain where I'm going, and what's going on a bit - plus if they start me on clomid as they hinted at at our appointment this month, I think I'll need a bit of understanding from collegaues if the 'mood swings' side effect kicks in - best they're forewarned!
Thanks chair and good luck with the chat
Hi all, It's so lovely to see people in the sane situation as me but with positive things happening. Makes me think their is hope.
After complaining to pals last wk I've already got an trans vaginal ultrasound appt for next weds the day before I go back for appt so think It's starting to be dealt with. It hurt so much last time but I'm going to be positive about it as no matter what the results I will know something more.
Chair, best of luck for the chat. I'm sure your mind will feel more at rest afterwards.
Waiting, that's great that you've already got an u/s appointment - it sounds like your complaint has definitely got the ball rolling.
Pink, sounds like you need a few new box sets to keep you going this week! Ugh I hate Special K, find it the least filling thing in the world as well. Do you like porridge/muesli? How about boiled egg and soldiers with fruit salad? Chopping up the fruit would kill some time too
Hehe yea don't mind porridge tbh might buy some when I go shopping next
In limbo at the mo stuck between thinking I should go back to work (clinic said it doesn't make much difference as long as I don't overdo it) or just chill on sofa bored brainless! If I go back ill blame that if it fails and if I don't I may lose my mind!!!! Can you tell I don't do staying at home
Evening Pink, think thats literally all you need to worry about at this stage. Must say this has been the longest 2 weeks of my life!! Thankfully its over in just a few more days! Hope youve had a nice day too. As for staying at home or going back to work, I know what you mean, but as long as you take it easy and dont over do it, normal routine should be good for you if anything. You dont want to be feeling agitated from being off. Personally I went back the 2nd day after having the egg collection and the same for embryo transfer (and only because my ET was on a Saturday, otherwise would have gone back the following day!) The medical staff wouldnt say it was safe to go back to work unless they were sure. However I know what you mean about blaming it on going back to work if you dont get your result, but Im sure youll be fine .
Hi Waiting keep positive, positive thinking brings positive results, were all in this together , good luck!
Hi Chair just wanted to say good luck with the chat with your boss, must say Ive avoided this chat as my workplace are not very understanding about these kinds of things. Just going to drop the bombshell if and when it comes to it, so you have more guts than me! Would much prefer to be straight up and honest though! x
Thanks infamous will take this week at least I work with my mum so she's not letting me go back to work but I'm so bored must admit its nice not having to get up to an alarm clock though
When r u testing?
How are we all doing today?
Not long til testing infamous! I've lost count of how many people I have things crossed for so am just keeping everything crossed for us all
How's the boredom pink? When I'm working from home I can find a million things to do other than work but as soon as I don't have to be working I'm twiddling my thumbs.
Good luck with the boss chair, let us know how you get on.
I feel fine other than the odd warm flush and a bit of confusion but that's pretty normal tbh. Despite all my best intentions work is starting to look a bit crazy for the next few weeks so I'm going to have to speak to my boss about how to manage things. Speaking of which I must get off here and do some work
Yes not to bad thanks devil I've eaten the last bit of binge so my weight should now start going down again very proud ive managed to lose 1lbs in like 3 days after eating crisps and chocolate. no caffiene still though so very proud my mum and dad are bringing us our dinners at the mo so I don't have to cool which is nice
How's everyone else in the hut?
Evening Pink, aw thats nice of your mum, at least shes looking after you . Testing on Thursday! What a weird experience though! You spend the beginning part going to information meetings and getting various tests and scans done which seems to take forever, then just when youre tired of the waiting the next thing you know youre whipped off for egg collection and embryo transfer which is like a whirlwind, then its back to the long waiting with the 2ww!!!! Such a confusing time! Hope youre getting plenty of rest, Pink and enjoying your time off . How long until your test now?
Evening Devil, thanks for your luck, hopefully will be able to tell you all some good and positive news on Thursday, so nice to share all this with you lovely ladies when those around us dont always understand! Had a friend of my mine who has been through this several times speak so negatively about it all today, which you just dont need, so Im glad of all the positivity from the hut . Ive been getting hot flushes too, glad Im not the only one! Hope your boss is fine about managing your work. I darent tell my boss!
Hope everyones OK x
Wow there's only really tomorrow left then how many is that the 14 days past transfer? Which day did u transfer? 2/3 or 5? Fingers crossed I'm not testing till next Sunday like 11 days away have been looking on the net tho to when the earliest is from my reckoning its 14 days from egg collection testing on the Sunday would be nearly 20 days (last cycle I bled at 14 days past egg collection so if I make it to then with no af I might cave and do a test
I have been mega chilled practically horizontal since ET on Sunday only moving to let the dogs out and to go for a wee myself
Woohoo for you for Thursday keeping everything crossed x
Aw pink your Mum sounds like such a sweetheart. If I was you I'd be stocking up on hpts and testing every day from day 14, but maybe I'm impatient
Infamous, I really hope it goes well tomorrow, I'm looking forward to reading some good news! Fingers very tightly crossed.
Chair, have you had the chat yet? Let us know how it goes.
Devil, I think the hot flushes etc are par for the course! It sounds like you're doing well otherwise, hopefully work is keeping you so busy it's keeping your mind off things!
Everyone else - hope you are all doing well.
I've got my bloods on Friday to see if I ovulated, I really haven't a clue one way or the other, but if I haven't at least next month I can power up to 100mg
Pink, parent delivered home cooked meals - sounds like heaven.
I hd the chat with my boss today. Needless to say, despite having worked myself up about it, I really shouldn't have worried. she was lovely. Told me I absolutely shouldn't use leave to cover the time I needed for appointments, and that I should just let her know when and where I needed to be at certain times and she's sort out cover if needed. She was also very sweet and positive about it all, so I feel much better.
I also awarded myself an 'I am a proppper grown up' badge for getting through it all without crying!
Good luck to all waiiting on tests - hope for good news all round.
Yes she's a love I bought 3 today
Test 14 days from EC or from ET? I bled on the 14th day from EC last time so if I make it to the 15th day (next Wednesday) I might test
Going slightly insane after only 3 days but have tomorrow to go then hubby is home for 4 days
Well done chair, and what a relief for you. These things always go so much better than we imagine they will, don't they?
Haha pink you are one step ahead of me. And you know we're going to make you test next wednesday (and if it's a neg, just keep testing every single day until it changes its mind!)
Hehe defo I'm chilled with my staffy on the sofa and she's doing everything to make my life difficult sticking her head over my phone while I trying to write
Glad the chat went well and she offered cover if I didn't work for my mum I'd be worried about all the time off
I'm being driven all the more insane by the buckets of rain coming down and a it can dripping noise from behind my fireplace annoying or what!
Really fancy a brew
Meant to say tin can not a it
Aw you have a staffie...I love them. Brilliant family dogs (despite what everyone says) My cat is exactly the same, he always wants to sit on the laptop/phone/newspaper/whatever is taking away my attention from him!!
Hi Pink, yep last day done now, one more sleep until we find out our fate!! Tomorrow will be 12 days since transfer, 15 days since egg collection. We transferred on day 3, how about you? Thanks Pink, never felt like I needed luck more than now! How long after egg collection are they testing you? Do you think I could do a test tonight as havent had AF!? Bless you, think it really helps to be chilled and relaxed. I keep worrying that if I get stressed at work or work too much or something that we might get bad news! Aww thanks hun, same to you, I wish you all the luck in the world and it will be so much easier waiting around when your husband is home ! P.S. I have a staffy too and she has been my best friend throughout, there for a cuddle when I am crying for no apparent reason and theres no one around haha. Cant wait for my hormones to be normal again!
Thanks Summer, getting more and more nervous but Ive got a good feeling about this so hopefully will be good news, would be lovely to spread more positivity in the hut! Good luck with your bloods, really hope youve ovulated !
Hi Chair, glad your chat with the boss went well, sounds like she is very supportive. Im sure this will make things that little bit easier now too ! x
Infamous that has to be a good sign that AF hasn't shown up! Maybe wait for tomorrow morning if you can bear it as isn't the hormone meant to be strongest first thing in the morning?
Thanks for the wishes - hopefully there'll be lots and lots of good news in the hut over the next fortnight or so
Infamous there not doing blogs they just gave me an nhs hpt to do NEXT sunday (14 days from 5 day ET) I'm going to test in Wednesday tho which will be day 15 from EC
It's a very good sign AF isn't here fingers crossed for you can't wait to hear your news x
Hehe must b going mad I meant to say bloods not blogs
Infamous hope all is going well with this morning! Waiting to hear from you!
Am hoping you are okay infamous?
Not much more of today to get through pink! Put on an epic DVD and it'll be suppertime before you know it
Does anyone know if white hot chocolate has caffeine in? Really need a hot drink
Hope everyone's having a lovely day I am as hubby was on a secret course today not work so got home an hour ago! He's just taken the dogs out then that's the end to my boredom for 4 days at least ill have him to talk to
Haha pink I hate being bored in the house, I usually end up cleaning or tidying or rearranging something! It's my last day at work tomorrow for 2 weeks, yee ha!
Hehe flixy hope you've got loads planned?
Only technically 5 days to go as I am going to test at 14dp egg collection 10dp5dt if I don't bleed before then praying!
Chilled out 4 days with hubby now woohoo
Yes pink we're going to Cyprus on Wednesday for a week, lots of sun worshipping, eating and cocktail drinking for me!!
I really hope I come back to some good news from u!!!
Oh wow that'll be lovely we said if this round failed we'd go on holiday might start looking on weds if its bad news don't want to jinx it before then positive thinking is the key. Hubby needs a passport too!
Hope your ok infamous?
Aw flixy lucky you, have a brilliant time.
Pink white hot choc would have barely any caffeine, it's in the cocoa but there shouldn't be much at all in the drink as white hot choc is mostly milk and sugar really! Check the label on your packet as to cocoa content but I imagine it'd be very, very low.
Infamous - thinking of you - hope all well.
Evening ladies, so sorry its so late, looks like some of you were as keen as me to know hehe. Just wanted to let you know that we had our pregnancy test today and we got a POSITIVE!!! Hopefully this will help others feel positive too. We waited until the hospital test to find out to avoid disappointment or an incorrect test. Couldnt be happier, but cant quite believe its real!!! Thank you to everyone that has helped me along the way, I really appreciate it, couldnt have done this without you guys ! Best wishes to pink and summer and everyone else in the hut xx
Awww congratulations infamous!
Can I ask what they transferred embryo wise? And did the grade it/them? Trying to fill myself with positivity that we can get 2 bfps in the hut
Fantastic news infamous!
Keeping up the hope and positive vibes pink!
Congratulations infamous!! such happy, happy news - without doubt giving us all hope and positive vibes!
Hope everyone else is doing ok and had decent weeks. Very happy the weekend is nearly here!
Start triple dose clomid Monday, last lot of clomid for us. I'm trying to be positive but I think I already know it won't work
Have lovely weekends take care x
Awww mands stay positive it's not over till its over. I did a hpt today 5dp5dt and it was BFN so at least I know the injection is out of my system. Too early for a BFP I know but any change now and it's real! Fingers crossed for Wednesday (maybe Tuesday hehe)
Oh thank goodness infamous! I was starting to get a bit worried.... so, so, so happy to hear your news. Fingers now very tightly crossed for a healthy nine months!
Pink - we're on a roll, you're next!
Mands - do stay positive, triple dose is obviously much stronger than double, it might well just take that extra 50mg to kick start your ovaries into action.
Have a lovely weekend everyone - looking forward to more good news next week courtesy of pink!
Amazing!!! Congratulations infamous!!
Hope everyone else is doing well today. Hopefully this is the start of a roll for us all. I had acupuncture today and feel fantastic now
I always planned to have acupuncture devil but never did
Having a negative day today have the feeling that it can't work for everyone and it was infamous' time not mine hey ho ill perk up again tomorrow probably having some cramps again today but surely it's too early for AF?
Hope your ok today infamous and enjoying the 'I'm pregnant' feeling
Blood test result for me on Monday hopefully - will find out if I can start IVF next cycle or whether I need another course of Humira.
Typically I have just started spotting and expect AF to be here in full flow tomorrow, so I am going to be waiting at least a month, and possibly more. Ah well, more time to save up for the treatment/drugs - I have nearly £4k squirreled away at the moment, shame it's going on IVF rather than something fun. It feels like a huge gamble to me, but what the hell, you can't take it with you.
pink keeping my fingers crossed for you.
infamous huge congrats, hope the next 9 months go well.
Some good news for me today. After 18months of issues with specialist, a stroppy letter to my top specialst from my Dr, and me getting pals involved; I am having an internal ultrasound next wk, meeting with top specialist, and he gas agreed to clomid! Can't believe it x
Try to keep your hopes up pink. I think we've all had days like that. Don't forget we'd decided to stop TTC and effectively give up for a while. We had that conversation on the Sunday. I was already pregnant! Found out on the Wednesday!
Nice to see you Delilah, hoping and praying its good news and it's IVF not Humira!
Now infamous, how many tests have you done
waiting I'm so pleased for you! I'm so glad they've seen reason (with help on your side) to actually start investigating. Here's hoping the clomid does the job! Did you ever ask about the prolactin? Or are they assuming you have PCOS?
I'm doing ok, 10 weeks today. Less sick which is good. Only 2 weeks 5 days til my scan
not that I'm counting down the days!
Oh pink, as faith says, we all have down days but try to see it as..the hut is bringing us luck and because it was infamous' time it's also yours! And remember that cramps could be a sign of AF or of something else!! You know I've got my fingers really tightly crossed for you. Have a nice chilled weekend with DH & your dog and try to take your mind off it (if humanly possible).
Delilah, another one here hoping it's your turn for IVF, though as you say if not at least it'll give you a chance to save up more money.
Waiting, that's brilliant that you're finally getting your mitts on some clomid.
Good to see you faith! Can't believe your first trimester is nearly over...having that scan will be so fab. Bet you can't wait to tell everyone!
Well I should find out today whether I ov'ed or not on this round of clomid, I'm feeling very relaxed as to whether it's a yes or no, for some reason before I started I convinced myself it'd take 100mg (no idea why) so this sort of felt like a practice run (the strange things that go on in our heads, eh) Went to my GP instead of the fertility clinic for the bloods and the nurse that did it was maybe not that experienced as it really hurt and there's now a massive blood blister in my elbow!! Oh well!
Have a great weekend all, what's everyone got planned?
Thank you everyone for the well wishing its so lovely to read and really pleased that the news is bringing positive vibes into the hut .
Morning Pink we had 2 embryos transferred both at grade 1. Im filled with positivity that we will have 2 bfps in the hut. Keep up the good vibes and youll get there. I feel different but it hasnt sunk in yet, its so strange! I believe everything happens for a reason. Now was our time but it doesnt mean that it isnt yours too hun. Youve got to keep positive for your embryos they could be babies . How are you feeling today hun?
Good luck with the blood test on Monday Delilah hope you get the results you want. Sounds like youre doing really well if your saving! Just think once your babys here the gamble will be completely worth it .
Good luck with clomid Mands and stay positive hun youll get there you can never be sure until test date .
Morning Waiting thats great news!! Shame you had to go through so much to just be given the chance but at least youre there now. Good luck with the scan next week .
Hi Faith haha I have to admit I wanted to test all the time but I kept myself busy and avoided. It was the hardest the night before the test, so tempting to go and buy tests but I didnt in case I got an incorrect result and was disappointed the next day. Glad I waited it was so special when we got the news . Glad youre doing well and are less sick. Bet you cant wait til your next scan. Im looking forward to our first proper scan in 12 days (not counting either haha). Good luck with the scan. Have you decided to find out the sex of your baby? I think were going to keep it a surprise, although I might not be able to wait that long haha.
Morning Summer, hope the clomid has worked will be thinking of you today . Cant believe your nurse at the GPs caused a blood blister on your elbow how strange! Hope you have a great weekend too. What are you up to other than finding out whether youve ovd or not lol. Im meeting my friend for breakfast and doing some studying .
Hope everyones good and keeping positive I know its easier said than done but keep yourselves busy. I still cant relax even after getting a positive. The way Im feeling at the moment it wouldnt surprise me if I didnt relax until the baby arrives. How scary and worrying is the whole process!? Wish we could enjoy it, seems so unfair. But at least were going through it together, it makes the world of difference x
Hey summer I really hope it shows you ov'd! Did you get signs of ovulation? That blood sounds ouchy! Probably the bets things to do is stick a plaster over it and leave it til get reabsorbed.
mands not sure we've really met before, (I'm an old time hutter who got a BFP after treatment for male factor infertility and got a BFP after 2 years 8 months TTC!). I really hope the clomid increase does the trick
infamous I did 11 tests (and had one in a&e when I went in with kidney pain - UTI!). I still have one lonely Internet cheapy. After a weird dream last night I'm tempted to do it!
Reallly can't wait for the scan! I've told
far too many quite a few people already. I haven't told anyone for two weeks though - that's good! I think we will find out the sex. DH is desperate to know and hates surprises! We might find out but not tell anyone else. We defiantly won't confirm names until after baby is born. There's still another 10 weeks til that scan though so we might change our minds!
Today I'm off to get my flu jab (always get it since I'm asthmatic and work in healthcare but since I got preggers it's all the more important!). Then I'm getting my hair done,. DH is working all day (stock take) so I might bimble into town and buy a few bits (just been paid woo!).
That's a lovely post infamous. Finding this place has made a world of difference to me. I knew there were other people out there going through this before but they just didn't seem real. It's so nice to be able to relax knowing we're all in the same boat. I just wish we could see into the future and know we're all going to get our babies so we could relax a bit
pink, I've been having acupuncture for a couple of years now and it's made a huge difference both in terms of my cycle running smoothly and feeling good in myself. It's also lovely to lie down for an hour in a quiet room and have some time to relax properly. I'm going to give some meditation apps a go as well just to try to keep my head in the right place.
summer, I feel your pain - the first blood test I had resulted in me bleeding all over my nice new dress in a car park in Bath. Not a good look!
Morning everybody else, sorry I haven't got time for more messages but I've got to go and corral my cats back in before the dog walkers appear!
Grrrr just typed an ultra long msg and its gone!!!!
Anyhow the top and bottom of it is have fun shopping don't spend too much money!
Where's everyone being treated?im at the RUH in bath and the don't do the beta they just gave me a test to do at home 14dpt. Anyone else think that's ages to wait since it was a perfect 4AA blast at day 5. Also going to push for 2 embies next time as twins runs in the family anyway I haven't got a lot to lose!
having a bath today too! Woohoo haven't had one in 8 days been having showers but I'm pretty sure at 6dp5dt I'm good for a bath?
Woohoo on the clomid that should hopefully get the balls rolling a bit faster
A bath will be fine as long as its not too hot pinky!
It wasn't faith. I normally has it pretty much boiled I was in and out once I'd washed my hair it was so cold
Hi Faith, bless you its so annoying having to wait for that hospital test isnt it, Im not surprised you did 11 haha. Are you on your 2nd child now then? Aw how exciting! Are you going to have one of those 4d scans they look a little strange but was thinking I might get one done when its time for that scan. Think its a good idea getting the flu jab, you can never be too sure! Enjoy getting your hair done and shopping, sounds perfect to me!
Hi Devil, I completely agree. Would have felt so lonely without the hut as no one I know is going through ivf so they wouldnt understand. I know a couple who went through ivf several times a while ago and unfortunately never conceived. They have been very strange with me, very negative, since I found out Im pregnant, they keep talking about miscarriages! I dont want to hear that, it worries me enough! Just gonna surround myself with positive people like you lovely ladies! How nice would it be to be able to look into the future and confirm that everyone will get that all important BFP!! Would be amazing!
Hi Pink, Im being treated at Halifax Royal Calderdale hospital, had the EC and ET at Manchester Care who were fantastic, couldnt praise them enough. Hopefully there wont be a next time as you will fall pregnant this time . Im hoping for twins as my granddad was a twin and my nans sisters were twins so hoping the skip a generation thing is true. How long have you got to go til your next test now hun? Are you going to still test on Wednesday or wait til Sunday? So excited for you, got everything crossed for you. You were one of the most positive people on here for me, if you believe it for others you can believe it for yourself hun. Keep smiling. When test day came it was like Christmas morning for me, cheesy I know but was so excited for the results, woke up at like 5am when didnt need to be at hospital until 8 haha. Had to wait so long results was like 7 hours wait!!! At least you can have your results there and then even if there is the long build-up to it.
For those of you looking at alternative therapies, I was constantly being told to have reflexology. I had it last December and found it really painful so didnt have it again, but apparently this means that I had a lot of toxins in my body and was quite unhealthy so it was obviously good for me. My partner had it done with me and found it very relaxing, so suppose it depends on you. It is supposed to be good for fertility. I was willing to try acupuncture but couldnt afford it yet and have a slight phobia of needles haha.
Really must stop writing essays on here, I talk far too much lol x
No this is DC1, first pregnancy.i don't know if we'll go for DC2. It's been such a long journey, if this all goes ok we might just call it quits! We haven't really talked about the 4D scan yet, it seems a long way away! Just gearing up for October 17th
Havea: going to discuss it all with specialist on thurs. Crap other specialist said pcos but I just have a feeling It's not. They based it on how I was fat, didn't ovulate and irregular periods. But I have too many periods and I was fat because I ate too much we shall see what they say but I'm writing a list allready.
Pink: I'm being treated at goodhope hospital or "no hope" as the media call it. Apart from issues i've had this time they have been good so fingers crossed they won't live up to their name!
I have been debating accupuncture but not sure.
Hope everyone is having a nice day. Dh at work but we are cooking a romanticy dinner between us tonight. I'm incharge of starter and pudding. No idea what to do at the mo so going to shops in a bit!
awww that sounds lovely waiting
I'm having a chilled day too been into work to empty the post of etc now at home watching tv while mum and dad are out doing our shopping (as I can't possibly walk around tescos) feeling very helpless at the mo and to think that it might be for no reason grrrr
Anyhoo hope everyone's having a good Saturday
Hehe an RUH buddy... Well both be say in the waiting room when we go wondering whose who
No spotting for me not to many cramps today either having a pretty good day with hubby gearing up for yet another week! 8 days till test day but I think Wednesday if I can hack it I may be too scared
We'll need to arrange a secret signal
More cramps for me tonight moderate so bearable x
Fingers crossed it's just somebody settling themself in x
Hehe yea that's the plan af should come 14 dpo technically (she did last failed cycle) so that's Tuesday today's a bit early since I've been cramping for th last couple of days finger crossed x
Infamous I like your long posts!
Waiting I hope you had a lovely night with DH, what did you make in the end?
We had friends over for dinner tonight and I made the first crumble of the autumn, mmm.
Pink I have a good feeling about those cramps, way too early for AF.
Devil I'm now feeling like I really shouldn't have complained about that blood test...
So I got my blood results and I haven't ov'ed, which is ok, I was mentally totally prepared for that. However the nurse wants me to go back for more bloods next weekend just in case it happens really late which, while I know should make me feel optimistic, is actually sort of annoying because I just want to get on with the 100mg. Oh well. Funny to think that I had a fear of needles before this all started...I got over that one quickly ;)
And on the plus side I allowed myself plenty of tonight knowing there couldn't possibly be a mini summer on board!
Awww sounds like everyone had a lovely evening mine was spent watching the god forsaken X factor, awful but addictive although not to fussed about winners/losers just in it for the laughs
Still having cramps but no spotting just attempting to sleep now not easy!
Morning everyone! We had a lovely nighy but I fell asleep before 10 and have only just woken up! First good nights sleep I've had on 18months. I know It's only just the start of the journey with clomid but it has taken such a battle to get here. We had tomato, mozzarella and parma ham salad with toasted ciabatta for starter, steak and home made chunky chips and salad for main, and brownies and ice cream for afters! Yummy!
Going for a big long walk on cannock Chase today and hoping to see some deer.
Did you sleep ok apples ? How are you feeling?
summer was the wine nice?
Awww sounds lovely waiting yummy starter
I'm alright today little bit crampy but (tmi coming) am also v constipated (progesterone me thinks) so it might be that hopefully still no bleeding so that's good any ideas on how to stop the constipation??
Other than that another lazy day for me, hubby and two little doggies that just love the sofa time
Aw thats good Faith, good luck for 17th! Not long now! Will be thinking of you.
Sounds good pink! Glad youre having a good day with your hubby, bet youve missed him. Ooh 8 days, it will be here before you know it! Just think those cramps could be the egg burrowing .
Aww thanks Summer haha. Sorry to hear about the bloods, you must be right about needing 100mg. Glad youre keeping positive, Summer, thats the way forward . I have a really severe blood phobia, and slight needle phobia its such a pain for ivf, still havent got over it yet after so many blood tests and having the drip in, but at least its good practice for the next lot of blood tests Ill be having for the next few months! At least youve had plenty of wine, Im very jealous . Good luck with the test next week hun will be thinking of you .
Morning Waiting. Hoping you wont have any more problems with the hospital. Dinner sounded perfect, hope you see some deer on your walk sounds lovely .
Hope everyone has a nice relaxing Sunday. Heres to another week of good news ladies x
Waiting that sounds like a lovely menu! Hope it was a beautiful day for your walk and you saw plenty of deer.
Pink, make sure you're drinking loads and loads of water, just being really well hydrated helps with constipation. And fibre... dried fruit is good... I think prunes are the classic but personally I think they're disgusting, maybe you don't mind them though! Each day without bleeding is a good sign!
Thanks infamous, means a lot Wine was nice and all but I was feeling a bit bummed today - maybe I'd been more subconsciously hopeful than I'd realised if that makes sense?! Anyway, onwards and upwards.
Hope everyone is having a lovely sunday night, keeping cosy and chilled, and as infamous says this is another week of good news.
Thanks summer hubby said a nice strong coffee... Show what he knows
I'm alright now cramping on and off but no bleeding it should come Tuesday if its anything like last time.. I'm so scared its unreal! fingers crossed another week on the sofa will help it along a bit
Hi pink , I had my gallbladder out in may in emergancy surgery and apparently my bowels went into shock. No poo for 2wks I could have cried! Ended up on medication but I was told orange juice was good....and have you tried weetabix, shredded weat etc ( my dh swears by them) crossing my fingers on all accounts for you!
Safe to say constipation is over... For now
In other news MAY have a mega mega faint BFP this morning. Not getting excited as this is how the last pregnancy started (faint then miscarriage) but will wait now till Sunday hopefully there should be no bleeding fingers crossed hang off on the congrats please ladies
Hope everyone has a lively Monday planned I'm off surprise surprise
Ok no congrats just a very, very quiet (you can barely hear me) hooray.
And fingers crossed.
And it's a beautiful morning so I think October's going to be a really good month.
just popping in to say I'm crossing my fingers for you pink
Massive fingers crossed and positive vibes for you pink, keep us posted x
No congrats from me, but am dancing silent jig of hope...
Feeling more positive today, after a grumpy Sunday where we went shopping along with every pregnant woman in the county (it seems there was some kind of baby fair on in the shopping centre). Two lots of appointments this week for me, including the apprehensively awaited appointment with 'dildocam' on Friday. Mercifully we have a fun rest of the day planned, so I can just get it over and done with, then enjoy some pampering.
Hope all is well with the other inhabitants of the hut.
chair I've got that on weds! Last time they put the condom on it infront of me and I made a very innapropriate comment
pink no congrats here but I am walking home from work and nearly cried for you!
Hehe they put condoms in mine too I can imagine that would be quite funny may we ask what the comment was
Thanks everyone will test again (if no blood) on Thursday and then Sunday (the day the hospital said to test) 3 days between is good I think x
<<totally not getting exited for pink or wishing her all the best wishes in the world !!>>
I am not congratulating you either but I have everything crossed xx
I'm off for my day 0 scan tomorrow - I'm assuming that'll be a dildocam job as well?
Yup devil, dildocam coming your way I haven't yet had a scan that's not a dildocam was very shocked 2 yrs ago when I turned up ill never forget when the nurse said empty your bladder please it's internal
Won't forget that in a hurry
The only positive is that I can pee as much as I like before hand - the idea of drinking 2 pints of water and then not peeing for an hour is only mildly less pleasant for me than the appropriately sheathed camera!
Keeping my fingers crossed pink
Phoned the clinic, they were going to phone me back with the results but nothing yet. Grr... I just want to get started with the IVF now.
Evening ladies, I know what you mean Summer, I imagine every one in the hut has had off days and quite a few of them. Its the hardest thing me and my partner ever had to do thats for sure. In fact its surprising relationships last through all this emotional torture! Hi Pink, got everything tightly crossed for you . Delilah, hope you hear some news tomorrow! Hi Chair, glad youre feeling more positive, good luck with the appointments x
I said "can I have a ribbed one please?" I don't know what came over me, I just talk lots when I'm nervous
Hehe I would have found that hilarious!
Apparently sonographers don't have a sense of humour
That's very funny - it would certainly have made me . I too have a tendency to talk before thinking so goodness knows what I might come out with!!
Waiting that's hilarious, I reckon my nurse would haved liked that, I think she's got a sense of humour.
Sadly (or not) I didn't get a condom on mine, it looked more like a plastic bag...
Anyway, enjoy your dildocams this week ladies..
Flixy love how are you? Any changes with hormone levels or are you in waiting for AF to show up limbo?
9dt5dt and another BFP for me in that I don't need to squint to look at it eekkkk I'm havinga restful 5 days and hopeful will be darker by Sunday
I knew you'd crack
Also at Waiting, something similar popped into my head but I don't think the nice lady doing the scan would have appreciated it either!
summer I'm good thanks, still waiting for AF to turn up, I'm going on hols tomorrow and I'm not taking any tampons in the hope that I'll get really awkwardly caught out when she arrives!!! Somehow I think I'll be safe enough
Woohoo for a holiday defo need one of those
I had to crack I couldn't stand it I had to know if the line was darker still no excitement tho I'm being very reserved
pink . Fabulous news, i have my crossed that the line continues to get darker!
Had be confusing GP appointment this morning. Had been sent for some tests by the hospital, but apparently because the GP and hospital are indifferent health authority areas the test samples won't be picked up by the right lab - grr. Now having to use those fingers which aren't crossed for pink to hope they make it to the right place by some kind of magic, and I don't have to have them all done again.
Hi Chair. Can you get them to at least give them a copy of your results? We had the same problem with DH's SA results so I made a few copies (at work, praying the copier wouldn't get stuck ) and took them with me to our appointments. Very useful as the results hadn't made it onto the system for some reason.
That's a good idea Devil - I did the same for my blood results, which went to my GP, but not the hospital, so will make sure i do the same this time, though think this time they'll go to the hospital but not the GP. G'ah! Who knew this trying to get pregnant lark would be so logisitcally challenging? The nuns at school certainly never gave the impression it owuld be so tricky!
Funnily enough I was having a similar conversation with the nurse today about wishing I could get pregnant the easy way as she lubed up the dildocam
Happy days in the hut
My blood test results show my cytokine levels are now normal, and I am in tomorrow for a blood test and starting IVF this cycle if it's OK. Praying that my FSH and LH and Estrogen levels are now all where they are supposed to be... Fingers crossed for me please.
Mega fingers crossed Delilah that's such good news looks like the hut is not glom and doom this week
Crossing my fingers delilah and doing silent cheering pink
Quite nervous about dildo as last time the nurse was horrible (maybe because of my comment ) and really hurt me. I was crying as it was so painful and even when I said it hurt she didn't stop. Felt a bit violated at the end of it (i know that's a dramatic word to use) so getting stressed it'll be as bad this time. Sorry to moan.
Oh no waiting how awful Ive only had that once and she didn't stop I guess cuz they have to do it and they know where they need to stick it (gross I know) there's not a lot they can do... Every other nurse always apologised for it being uncomfortable
Fingers (and arms/legs/eyes!!) crossed for you delilah hope it's all fine.
waiting I've not had any experience of the dildocam but your last experience didn't sound very pleasant and its only natural to feel nervous about this time. I'll be thinking about u tomorrow.
Ooh delilah I'm glad you can start! Hoping and praying the blood work is as it should be
pink absolutely no congratulations
but secretly yay to a non- squinty BFP!
waiting I've had the
pelvic ultrasound fanjo cam and mine was ok - I'd describe it as a 'tad uncomfortable'. I'd suggest you take something like Kalms to keep you relaxed beforehand but also to explain to the person doing that you had a bad experience last time so you're nervous, they should be gentle with you!
Thanks for all the well wishes for the bump/scan, only 15 days to wait!
Delilah and pink - got everything crossed positive thoughts, positive thoughts!
Waiting - really hope you're ok x
delilah really hoping you can get started with this cycle.
waiting so sorry you had such a horrid experience last time, the nurse has always apologised to me for how uncomfortable it is. Maybe just let her know that you had a slightly traumatic experience last time and hopefully she can go a little easier on you. Either way while it's going on think it's leading to something a heck of a little more uncomfortable coming out the other way
Chair - what a pain about the results palaver. You've got another appointment on Friday yes? Maybe have a bit of a phone around and try to get everything in one place for that.
pink - just
Thank goodness for the hut - I had a bit of a "universe, are you taking the piss" day today with THREE friends' pregnancy announcements but just coming on here makes me feel so much better somehow. And when you guys get pregnant, there's none of that secret sadness underneath the happy... it's just happy, through and through.
Well said summer the hut helps so very much. Here's to lots more positive, happy news x
Omg another BFP for me... This might actually be happening still 4 more days till Hospital poas tho
pink. I love that you're testing every day, and will have a nice colour chart of gradually darkening lines, a representation of hope becoming reality.
Am a bit sore after yesterday's internal test furtling, so worrying about Friday and The Camera. Still, there will be a lot more of this kind of thing to come, and the positive news in the hut makes it seem like it may well be very worthwhile...
Can't do anymore I've run out
Fingers crossed now this one sticks
Ladies I'm off to the sun for a week so I wish u all the best of luck for the next 7 days in all your various tests/appointments.
I've bought a data bundle so I will pop in to check in your sticky bean progress pink!
Chair that's such a lovely image (the hope to reality one, not the test furtling one). Try not to worry about the Camera - or perhaps do and then it won't be nearly as bad as you've imagined.
Flixy, have an amazing hol. I really hope that you've jinxed yourself by not taking any tampons and AF shows up!
Pink I can't believe you're not going out to buy a bunch more
Hehe I have I tried to stop myself but I went into work this morning and got some on the way back 10 to be precise so I can do one every day till Sunday
Bad news today for me. My FSH was 21.6, stupidly high.
Needs to be 10 or lower.
So, I have to wait a month and test again and hope it falls, I can't start to cycle until it does. If it does.
Gutted after psyching myself up, and now worried it will never happen for me :'-(
Oh no bit clueless on the whole level thing.. What does that mean? FSH?
delilah I'm so sorry, you're bound to have got your hopes up.
pink exciting news crossing my fingers for you!
I had the Willy today, still v painful but I survived. they found a bit of liquid in my pouch of Douglas but think It's old liquid. But good news thrive found my other ovary and they both looked ok! Snuggled up on sofa now as sore and achey but positive about appt tommorrow x
Good news then waiting what's tomorrow's apt for?
Appt tommorrow is to see top specialist pink and to decide on course of action. I imagine internal xray will be next but will see what he says.
Ohh exciting stuff then
Fingers crossed for a good plan heading your way
DH home with for me, and friends over for coffee.
Feeling better now, and a month delay is actually a good thing in terms of saving money up.
pink FSH is a hormone that indicates how much your follicles need to be stimulated. Low is good, high is bad.
Delilah really hope you're doing ok. It can be desperately hard some days we have to stay positive as I truly believe it helps. Fingers crossed next month's your month x
Oh delilah, I'm sorry to hear that this isn't going to be your month. So glad that your DH and friends are looking after you.
That's weird about the FSH - I thought I didn't produce enough and that's why my follicles don't lay eggs all by themselves. Sometimes I really wish I was a gynaecologist and really knew what was going on down there.
waiting that's great news that your ovaries are both fine, hopefully tomorrow will provide you with some answers!
DH is away for two weeks now on business, I feel so sad. Im not sure whether it's him being away or the pregnancy announcements yesterday or most likely a bit of a both.
Hi summer. Just wanted to make sure you're ok, I too have had days like yours - a lot of my very close friends are pregnant. It's the strangest feeling because of course you're so happy for them but at the same time so sad that they now have the one thing we desperately want too! It won't help with your partner working away, make plans and keep busy is all the advice I can offer. Just popping on here cheers me up sometimes x
Oh Delilah, I'm sorry you've had bad news but glad you're being looked after.
Hugs to you too Summer, sometimes it just gets to you I think.
Glad you survived the dreaded dildocam Waiting , hope all goes well tomorrow.
Hello everybody else <waves> hope you're all well this evening.
I did my first injection this morning. Took me ages as I was scared of doing something wrong but it didn't hurt and I feel fine. Trying to get as much protein as I can, I'm veggie so trying hemp protein but my god it's vile! DH did say he was proud of me going through all this which cheered me up .
Thanks Mands & Devil - you are both right, some days it just really gets you down and the thing to do is keep busy and also just let those days pass. With that in mind I am already in bed and hopefully will fall asleep pretty soon
I'm glad your injection wasn't too bad Devil. I haven't tried hemp protein but I eat a LOT of yogurt. I guess tofu is a bit of a funny one since it contains soy...I started eating loads of that when I read that soy was a sort of natural clomid, but to no avail
Sorry to hear your news Delilah - well done to your DH for the flowers and for your friends for hopefully taking your mind off it a bit and taking care of you. It can be so tough some days, and like Summer says, sometimes it only takes one bit of 'bad' news or a reminder of someone elses good news to tip the balance into really tough.
I've got friends who are on their second pregnancy - I just have to remind myself that they are my friends, and while I want the very best for them, I don't want their babies, I want mine and DH's, and if that comes a little more difficultly for us, then we just have to stick with it.
I managed to wig myself out last night be looking on google for 'dildocam' information, which provided a lot of alarming photos of the thing itself. am now consoling myself with the thought that it can't be nearly as bad as I am expecting it to be!
Chair - I don't want their babies, I want mine and DH's SO true. Must keep remembering that! (Even if our baby ends up being, biologically, someone else's baby..)
Can't believe you googled dildocam, that's like googling anything on one of those 'things you wish you'd never googled thread'
Hells yes - though at least I waited until I was home from work !
Just back from specialist with 3 months supply of clomid!didn't think it would happen that quick. When I told him I had v irregular cycles some v short he did do an "oh" but still gave it me. Am I just finding things to stress about? And no sign whatsoever of pcos either!
I know its only a 28% chance of me concieveng but It's 28% more than I had this time last wk! Happy happy!
We are off abroad at the end of the month - and whilst there may be visiting an IVF clinic with a view to a donor egg cycle.
Unlike here, there is still donor anonymity, and so very much shorter waiting lists.
My FSH levels mean the chances of conceiving with a cycle using my eggs is tiny. Need to have a proper chat with DH about going for it, but I am cautiously thinking this might be the right step for us...
Woohoo for the clomid... So excited for you
Woohoo for the holiday too Delilah good luck searching a clinic
Another BFP for me that's 4 now think on beginning to believe it still terrified tho hey ho fingers crossed
Hope everyone's had a lovely day
Oh great news waiting. Join Mands and I on the clomid rollercoaster
Delilah, good for you making plans for your next step. I imagine that one in particular takes a lot of thought and soul searching, so can see why you're approaching cautiously, but that all sounds really good. Good luck finding a clinic that feels right
Great news waiting! Summer and I will help you as and when you need it . I'm on 3rd day of triple dose. Had a scan today (CD3) and all ok but it's always next weeks that's the scariest. Booked in for a week today. Hears to lots more happy news in the hut for everyone x
Morning early birds up ridiculously early for no reason at all need to sleep as I'm knack weed (and I only did 1 afternoon in work this week )
Good their scanning you ladies on clomid I never got scanned just given the tablets and told to dtd around the time (probably why they put me through 8 cycles of it whilst it wasn't working )
I'm alright only 1 day left of the whole "your at work and in at home" thing left to enjoy. Dh stayed at his mums last night so my sister came round (don't like being on my own) another fun filled busy day for me... Not
Have a good day x
I think all I'm getting is the CD12 scan on my first cycle, going in tomorrow for CD29 bloods as the CD21 didn't show anything and I guess they just want to double check it wasn't a late ov before cracking on with 100mg.
Mands how are you feeling on the 150mg? I hope it's all going okay and not having all the side effects you were dreading.
Can't believe they didn't scan you at all pink for 8 whole cycles, ah well all in the past now. And you get your offical POAS this weekend right? Only one day left before the weekend...this week feels like it shot by, probably not for you though pink
Anyway, happy Friday everyone. Chair, enjoy your encounter with the dildocam today!
Morning.. Yup official poas is Sunday not sure how many weeks that makes me?? The net says its from egg retrieval but others say its from transfer so who knows... Anyone?
I know I was a bit miffed at the no scans to but I did have monthly day 21 bloods at my gp to check ov... I never ov'd like you say all in the past now tho and fingers crossed with all the monitoring they'll be more good news in the hut soon x
Morning all. Hope everyone's ok. Days holiday which is lovely
I get scanned 3x per cycle at the moment. Around CD 3 then 10 then 17. I have to take progesterone to bleed and have yet to ovulate so I'm hoping 150mg does the trick. Summer the side effects hit for me for a couple of weeks once I'd stopped taking the clomid. Really hope it's an easier month. Can't help but think this month will be the same but the lady yesterday said they see many women ovulate on triple dose... We'll see
I have great feeling there will be lots (more) positive news in the hut this month
Take care all x
Yay for clomid! Good luck Waiting
Also a very quiet yay for Pink and all your BFPs! I thought the dating went from two weeks before egg collection as that's effectively ovulation and most people (but not most of us here, obviously, because we're special ) ovulate on day 14? Does that make sense? I'm a bit addled from all the drugs so it probably doesn't!
I'm having a lazy morning, dropped DH at work because I was up anyway to inject and have gone back to bed because I'm absolutely knackered.
Mornin all. Cracking news about the Clomid - fingers crossed for you all. Is nice that the hut has such a positive vibe at the moment, let's hope it continues.
Day off for me, just the scan this afternoon to interrupt things! I mentioned to DH that it was 'ahem' an internal scan, he was baffled by the notion, bless.
Chair - my DH asked how it could be so uncomfortable when it is so dildo-esque. I had to point out I wasn't exactly aroused sitting there with my legs in the stirrups
Mands do stay as positive if you can and try to really believe that the 150mg will work. It's a bit like the placebo effect...lots of scientific studies show that patients who are convinced their meds work have a higher success rate. Easier said than done I know, because I'm totally sceptical about my chances too, BUT maybe we can just believe each other's drugs will work and that'll help
Thanks summer I'm sure happy news is just around the corner for us all X
We have an appointment for 28th to discuss DE with a clinic in Spain. Holiday at the same time too. Will keep you all posted x
Opps, mean the 26th not the 28th. Feeling really quite positive about it.
Woohoo exciting stuff Delilah x good luck and a holiday to boot fab!
Delilah, that's brilliant. So glad that you are feeling positive, and rightly so.
I had my second blood test and yet another dildocam today, the 16mm follicle has completely disappeared without releasing an egg. Rather odd. However the positive side of it all is I just took my first round of 100mg clomid and I'm getting another day 12 scan because the nurse wants to see if I get the disappearing follicle act again.
I think DH is slightly relieved he's away while I'm going through clomid hormonal madness this week
Chair, how was the cam for you?
Pink, good luck for the official POAS tomorrow!
Happy weekend all.
Official poas is BFP so next milestone is the scan only a couple of weeks to go!
Odd about the folly how do they know it didn't have an egg in could it have released on its own?
Brilliant news pink ! So happy for you!
summer , I don't really understand the follicle thing, but I'm glad you are on 100mg and really hope it works for you. Have you had side effects on clomid?I read the list yesterday and scared myself
delilah I hope the appt goes well and that the holiday gives you both chance to relax.
I had a ridiculous accident yesterday including a gate and a dog that has resulted in me getting my eyebrow glued back together but on the positive side realised I'm on cd23 and out of the past 4months 3have had good cycles which is a miracle so I'm feeling positive!
That's fantastic news Pink! Congratulations! When are they scanning you?
Glad you're feeling positive Waiting, it's so nice when you get an 'up' day on the rollercoaster isn't it?
Wonderful wonderful stuff pink. You're going to have to post that first scan pic for us all to rejoice over
My progesterone was 0 so definitely no egg released But hey, onwards and upwards.
Waiting - just so you know once you start your clomid - on your first cycle you should get a dildocam scan on about day 12 to see whether any follicles are developing that could potentially release an egg (not every PCT seems to do this though...)
Mine showed a 16mm follie which should have been big enough to have an egg inside and ovulate but the follie has broken down I guess and there must have just not been an egg in it, or the egg was too weak and also disintegrated? (Really, no idea.)
Anyway - side effects - I got twingy feelings on my lower left abdomen which I assume was the follie growing, but they weren't really uncomfortable, just weird. I also had really, really vivid dreams (I took my pills at night) and other than that just hormonal stuff - mood swings etc. In fact this morning I found myself crying at how pretty the garden looked which I think can only be attributed to the first double dose last night!!!
Don't worry though - I think the worst most people get is hot flashes, and if you take the pill at night then those should have passed by the morning.
Less painful than ripping your eyebrow apart in any case
Such great news Pink - congratulations!
My dildocam experience was far less hideous than anticipated. I apparently have a 'beautiful womb' (though I'd take being functional over beauty at this point!) but my ovaries seem disappointingly lazy. The right one elicited lots of concerned tutting, though the left gave some hope that it might be able to ovulate.
Repeat Day 21 tests this month, then back to see the consultant in November. They suggested that the next step will be some clomid action, so there'll be a lot of hot flushes in the hut - we'll have to compare notes!
Oh no, sorry to hear that summer I know how It feels mine always ranged between 0 and 2.4 never exciting much but you seem positive about it which will help
Congratulations on your beautiful womb hehe
Hope everyone's got a chille out Sunday planned
Just a quick congrats from me in Cyprus pink!!
Waves to everyone else, seems like lots has been happening in the hut, can't wait until I'm back and can read everyones news property
Just popping my head around the door of the hut to say congrats Pink fab news
Thanks summer my specialist has given me 3 months worth. Wants day 21 bloods on 2months and camera on another so just got to phone nurse. Going to make drs appt this wk tho as I'm a bit confused. Eyebrow is taking my mind of clomid though and as the whole area is changing a rather pleasant shade of green my dh has looked after me all day and is cooking me a yummy roast dinner. Hope everyone else is having a good wknd x
Huge congrats pink!!! here's to lots more happy news in the hut x
Ah bless your DH Waiting. I assume you're waiting for your next period to begin before starting the pills? In which case give the nurse a ring as soon as you get a bleed and she'll get you booked in on all the correct days.
Chair, glad to hear about your beautiful womb and potential ovulation from left ovary. Did they tell you anything about what's going on with the right one besides the tutting?! Since winter's on its way I shall be looking forward to a good hot flush..
Pink we are going to miss you when you leave the hut! but
Aww thanks I'm not going anywhere yet I remember when I left at Easter and I was back within a week... Positive thinking hopefully will stop that this time (that and the fanny gel that I didn't have last time)
Thanks Summer - there were dark mutterings about cysts on both, but better follicles on the left (this is all a bit of a mystery to me - I have set myself research homework). Hopefully we'll get chance to find out a bit more when we see the consultant in a few weeks.
Pink - do remember to keep popping into the hut to let us know how you're doing.
Thanks summer yep waiting for period then got to take it between days 2-6. Just want to get going now!
Dh has been lovely today, looked after me good and proper. Just don't know what my teenagers at school are going to make of my black eye in the morning!
pink it is lovely you being here as you give me hope and positivity.
Scan all booked for 10am on 29th here's hoping I get that far this time
Got everything crossed for you pink
Hope everyone else is ok. Finished 150mg clomid yesterday, scan Thursday. If there's no follicles again don't quite know what I'll do x
Fingers crossed then mands... What's next for you if the clomid doesn't work? Will they dothe 200 and 250mg?
They said 150 is the highest they'll do so its last chance saloon on clomid. Next step would be surgery to check if tubes are blocked. Maybe hormone injections, then IVF. Keeping my fingers crossed but its the whole positivity vs realism nightmare! x
That's the route I took mands fingers crossed it works this time then!
Ahh pinks that's so lovely for you. Crossing my fingers but am certain this is going to happen for you this time.
mands hope their are some follicles this month.
I'm desperate for my period so I can start my tablets but am still having a good cycle. 3out of 5 have been proper cycles so hoping this means that they are settling?
Hope everyone has had a good Monday!
I am miserable, having spent the past 5 hours throwing up at a works event away from home. In addition to being hungry, thirsty, nauseous, shivery, and tired I am now pondering just how many of my mostly male colleagues will assume I am pregnant - chance would be a fine thing.
Oh chair I'm so sorry you're feeling so grotty. This bug seems to be going round doesn't it?
If the men you work with are anything like the ones I do they won't think it as they're
a bit stupid don't look at things like that.
Get yourself home, sips of water, hot water bottle, snuggled up in bed and look after yourself x
Thanks waiting. Am stuck in the hotel for the night, by will duck out of day two and get home first thing, assuming I can be relied upon not to erupt on the train!
In some respects it makes me more grateful for my dildocam appointment last week; previously I'd have tormented myself with the hope that, no matter how unlikely, this was a 'symptom' but having only recently seen my empty (though beautiful!) insides, I know its just a bug.
I know what you mean, when I went for dildocam last wk I had the teeniest tiniest hope that they'd do the external ultrasound and say "oh gosh look there's a baby in there! Pathetic eh?
Look artery yourself tonight Claire and yes def think go home tommorrow if you can x
Waiting - glad it's not just me! I hadn't told DH but I harboured that hope too. Hopeless optimism it may be, but I just can't help myself.
Hope you're feeling a bit better today chair
Aw Chair I hope you're feeling better today. It's definitely not just you - I was hoping that too when I had the second scan this cycle - thought maybe I'd just ov'ed late... ah well.
Mands, I really hope 150mg works for you and there is at least one lovely big follicle growing away.
Pink, hope you are feeling good and enjoying being back at work and busy again!
Waiting I know you must be feeling impatient to start the clomid but try to focus on the positive of having a good cycle, maybe they are just settling down. Have you been doing anything differently wrt lifestyle?
How are you feeling today Chair? It's rubbish being ill when you're away from your home comforts. I'm another one who always harbours the hope that a baby will have miraculously appeared on scans. I suppose it's good to have hope
Thanks ladies. I finally stopped throwing up, and have since managed 3 cups of tea and a slice of toast.
Am on my way home now, to snooze on the sofa and wean myself onto harder food challenges, such as coca cola, crackers and soup.
Hope everyone else is having a good day.
I'm alright thanks summer I am only on half days at the mo till my scan on 29th but all is well ill be more chilled if I can get through this week as this is when I miscarried last time. So home for me at 2 ish woohoo very much sleeping on the sofa in the afternoon which is lovely
Hope everyone's doing ok
Just found out yet another good friend is pregnant. Having one of those 'will it ever be us?' days x
Oh mands, it's so hard isn't it. But do try to keep positive - that extra hit of clomid may well do it for you [fingers crossed smiley face thingy]
((*mands*)) we've all been there. Chin up, it will be our turn soon. Pretty much all the people who were in the hut with me originally got their BFPs eventually...
chair hope the sickness bug is short lived. Relax and look after yourself.
pink glad you are official. Enjoy those 1/2 days and naps!
I have a doctor's appointment later this week, as the Spanish clinic wants a syphilis test. About the only thing I've not had recently, fingers crossed the NHS will pay and it comes back quickly. I've also got a form coming from my old clinic to fill in and send back with payment for them to post me a copy of all my notes. And I have an essay (4 pages so far!) of previous tests and treatments I've got to get emailed off to the Spanish clinic at some point. Meh, just totally fed up with the organising of it all now.
Happier news, I have finally got off my arse and booked some gym classes. DH has said the only way he'll agree to more treatment is if I get fit. I am slim and healthy looking, but he is convinced cardio cures all. Can't hurt I guess, and may well help.
Oh Mands, that really is the worst. I was feeling a bit rotten today because one of my pregnant friends is continually sending me emails and texts about the baby and it's really getting me down. It's so stupid - I'll be having a good day and then up pops "kicking like mad today!" or something and it makes me irrationally upset.
I hope so very much this triple boost of clomid will get you laying eggs.
Pink, fingers crossed this one stays very much on board.
Delilah, the organising does sound like a complete and utter pain but just think what's at the other end of it! So is the trip later this month a fact finding mission or are you going to actually get treatment then and there? It's all really exciting.
Good for you getting down to the gym as well - if nothing else it'll boost your endorphins and lower stress, right?
Wow seems like its all going on for you then Delilah
Thanks everyone i'm just having a hormonal few days I think! Just want this scan on Thursday to bring even the smallest amount of positive news
Hope you're all doing ok, lots going on with us all which is good.
Have nice relaxing evenings all x
Mands, maybe look at it this way - if you ARE having a hormonal few days, your body might well be responding nicely to the triple dose...
Thanks summer. I don't know if its just me but I could swear I've got ovulation signs. Can't help but get my hopes up that triple dose is all I needed to kick start me but then I'll be even more disappointed tomorrow if they say 'nothing there' again.
What will be will be.
Hope you're all having a good day x
Oh mands I'm really hoping that it is for you.
Well still waiting for my period. Really chuffed that cycle will be atleast 26days but getting impatient! Also, means we'll need to dtd when we are on holiday with our friend and her little boy in a tiny cottage and I'm stressing over that too. Think I've waited so long for any help, that now I've got them I'm burying my head.
Hope your all having a nice night x
I'be just had a lovely bath for the first time in 3 weeks (yes ladies, I have washed in 3 weeks just not bathed) hubby thought it might harm said none existent baby but with the BFP I figured I'd have one and it was LUSH!
Hubby's out tonight so house to myself with dogs and duvet on the sofa. Still on half days which after 4 years of 7.30am-6pm I'm not going to lie is pretty good and the afternoon sleeps aren't bad either
Hee hee pink I've had a similar night, its been so nice, died my hair too so feeling a bit better as my black eye and cut eyebrow have been getting me down '(stupid I know)
And just think, soon you'll be having baths with your pregnant belly poking out of the suds. :-)
Hope everyone's well
Scan at 5pm. Did an ovulation test this morning and there was a faint line. Not had that before... Don't want to get my hopes up.
Have a good day all x
Haha pink I have been trying to limit DH's baths for his swimmers' sake and it drives him mad. Love that thought of the pregnant tum sticking out of the suds!
Mands, I have got my fingers very tightly crossed for you today. Is it CD10 for you? (Assume so if you're taking pills on days 2-6) If so still lots of time for follies to grow and release a little egg even if the scan doesn't show up anything major. Remember - hope for the best, prepare for the worst. x
Hey Mands. Thinking of you as you get set for your scan - really hope it's encouraging news.
Thinking of you mands hope it has gone so well for you. And the faint line is fab!
I've started my period today so the prescription says I start taking my tablets tommorrow til day 6. Starting to shit myself about this now. I'd got myself so sorted thinking that adoption was the only way we could go, and now I don't know I'm just building my hopes up even thinking this is going work. And I don't know what I do. I'm supposed to take my temperature every day and buy ovulation sticks but when do we have sex?? Do we wait til my temp goes up? (by what??) Or do I wait til I get something on my ovulation sticks? Or do we just have sex every other day? I am mojor stressed. Sorry for ranting.
Another one a week today which will be CD17, so maybe it's not that bad there weren't any follicles worth mentioning but in my heart of hearts I know next week will be the same surgery it is I think.
Hope you are all ok. I like that I came on here before texting family/friends x
Awww mands sorry to hear that never mind though, onwards and upwards lovely and you never know next week might be different.
I don't know about dtd I was told when i was on clomid every other day then everyday at
supposed ov so day 11,13,14,15,17 - 11 and 17 I think being to cover all bases
Oh mands I'm so sorry. Still hope for day 17 though.
Poor dh will be shattered after all of that. Need to calm myself down about it all.
Emotional roller coaster doesn't come close for us all does it! x
Oh Mands, my heart goes out to you. Emotional roller coaster is right. Keep your hopes up for day 17, will next step not be the injections rather than surgery? You poor love, I hope you and your DH are taking it easy tonight.
Waiting, I've got a feeling the ov test kits and temping just make things even more stressful, maybe best to just do as pink advises and have a lot of sex.
I was told by my nurse to 'abstain' the two days prior to the scan (so CD10 and CD11) in case of multiples but then as there was only one follie we dtd every day from CD12 to CD21. For the first time in our relationship I think DH was a bit fed up of sex! - but I was damned if I was going to ov and not catch it
Also, don't be shitting yourself. Remember, taking these drugs is a good thing! The brilliant part is that you're open to adoption so if they don't work, you know that's always going to be a possibility of a child in your future. But if they DO work - that could be your biological child.
And obviously any worries you do have just pop on here and someone will have the answer
Oh Mands, I'm sorry it wasn't good news but like you say you've got another scan and a plan in place. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you and sending you a virtual hug in the meantime (()).
I'm off for my day 10 scan now. Been feeling pretty rubbish - tired and very tender around the ovaries so hoping there's something going on down there
Thank you everyone for your support and lovely words they really help, even more so that you truly understand what I'm going through.
Good luck Devil keep us posted.
Wishing everyone a happy Friday and an even happier weekend x
Good luck with your scan Devil, let us know how it goes. Think we need some good news before the weekend...
Mands, really sorry to hear about your scan - but there's always a chance with the day 17 scan so keep positive.
I had a scary 'we have the results of your test, come and see us' letter from the doctor yesterday so am now fretting as to what it could mean, but trying not to let it ruin the weekend.
Hope y'all have a good Friday and weekend planned.
6 follicles plus one random thing they think is a cyst . Back for another scan on Monday and probably collecting on Wednesday. I'm quite happy with that for a first attempt, I always suspected my left ovary wasn't quite on the ball and this has confirmed it.
Chair, try not to worry (I know!) and enjoy the weekend as best you can.
Happy Friday everyone!
Brilliant, Devil!! The hut is on a roll with IVF success.
Chair, think positive - finding out what's wrong is the first step to treating it and getting a solution. And, yes, just try to enjoy the weekend and do things to take your mind off it!
Woohoo devil and if you had some smaller ones they'll probably grow over the weekend fingers crossed x
On my way to hospital now for some more progesterone gel... Ohh the excitement
hi all...new to this so be gentle with me basically i'm hoping there'll be some experts on here as not having much luck with the supposedly all knowing WWW! in a nutshell we had a baby naturally 5.5 yrs ago (a week before my 31st bday) via planned c section and we've not used contraception since. i can't claim that we've been trying all those years as the technical world of babymaking wasn't even on our radar!
so now i'm 36 and a half and my periods completely stopped in May of this year. went to see my gp who sent me for bloods and later told me my FSH was 22.5. his suggestion was to redo again in 6 mths to which i said i wanted to be referred to a gyno - which i was. saw the gyno on 2nd oct who began instantly telling me there's barely anything they can do as i've conceived naturally before and started talking about adoption?! he than said go for more bloods and mumbled a load of abbreviations whilst writing...only one i picked up on was amh. also went for a transvaginal scan and ultrasound yest, the technician commented that it looks like i've less follicles than expected for my age and said it's worrisome. again, i have NO idea what that means?? just feels like they expect u to know everything and want u out the room asap. should mention my mum began menopause (perimenopausal?!) in her late 30s. my only other symptoms since May have been an increase in (yet odourless) discharge and some itchiness. didn't imagine periods would just stop like that one day...thought it'd be stopping and starting like some sort of warning! would love some insight from real people as opposed to 'white coats'. many thanks
forgot to say my follow up appt isn't until jan 8th for all results
Hi imisslieins , welcome to the hut!
I'm sorry I can't be much use on the specifics of your case but someone in the know will be along shortly. It might also be worth posting on the conception board as I think it gets more traffic. What I have found is that sometimes you really have to push to get answers and the referrals you need. I'm also pretty sure that they have to explore options like IVF for secondary infertility rather than telling you to go straight for adoption [hmmm]
Hi imisslieins don't really have much advice for you, just wanted to say that I've had issues with my hospital/specialist and would say a couple of things.
First, phone your specialists secratery and ask for an earlier appt for follow up results as they might be able to sort. (when I phoned up to complain about something else she said:are you busy this wk cos we have a few cancellations)
So might be worry trying.
And also if you are not happy with them then go to pals and explain your issues, they got mine sorted within a week.
It sounds so frustrating for you.
thank you both for your thoughts...a friend told me you can always ask the nhs if you can pay privately to have an apt brought forward (not just fertility related), so i rang the hosp and said waiting until january is causing me stress and is it possible to pay to have a nearer apt to which the woman replied "I don't see the sense in that personally" > but she did advise me to ring every monday to see if there are any cancellations (as the clinic is only once a week on a tues). so think that's probably what i will have to do. it is frustrating and it's only at times like this (re: health issues) that i wish i was rich in order to receive a swift and informative service from health professionals! thanks again and good luck in your endeavours
Hi imisslieins, I'm sorry you had a bad experience with this gynae. It really shouldn't have to be that way. Of course it's worth calling to see about cancellations but having also had several months of waiting around for various appointments before getting fertility drugs I would say that the time will pass very quickly (particularly with all the madness around Christmas) before your follow up comes.
I too am very surprised that the gynae went straight into talking about adoption - I don't think you can get NHS funding for IVF if you already have a child but there may be other avenues to explore. Furthermore, if your periods have stopped but you haven't gone through the menopause, the doctors should be trying to determine why whether you want another child or not, just for your general health.
Good luck with the wait and fingers crossed you get a cancellation and get seen more quickly.
Hi summer...thanks for your post. That's kind of the route i had to take with gp - that it wasn't so much about me getting pregnant but more so as to why my periods have suddenly stopped at 36. They just don't seem to get the obvious tho - if i am now infertile i sure as hell want to know asap rather than further years of my life chasing a dream that cannot ever happen. As heartbreaking as it is i would still much prefer to know. But i have so many q's such as not even knowing if i can even still ov/get pregnant w/out periods - as stupid as that sounds u do hear of miracle babies. I plan to hound them til i get an earlier apt! Tks again and best of luck xx
Slightly random question while I try to take my mind off imagining worst case scenarios for the coming week: have/are any of you having a flu jab? I've never bothered before but I'm wondering if it's worth paying for it in case I get my miracle over the winter.
I haven't had mine yet but I do have it every year I'm asthmatic so am high risk I wait for the gp letter about 1st nov then get it better to be safe than sorry x
Ooh devil good question. I have literally never thought about having it - besides this whole infertility malarkey I have really good health in general so avoid all jabs and meds that aren't absolutely essential. Personally I don't think I'll get it 'just in case', I'll wait and if the amazing and unbelievable does happen then I'll see what the doctor advises.
BUT it's a totally personal choice and, as pink says, if you're thinking about it anyway, maybe better safe than sorry?
I'll be having mine - we get offered them through work and having had flu a few years ago am very keen to avoid it again!
Plus, with all the needles and other unmentionables that have recently found themselves in an around my body I'm far less concerned than I used to be about a small jab!
How is everyone? Sorry to hear you're having such a tough time of it imisslieins - it really does seem a lottery in terms of NHS responses. So far our GP and hospital have been great, but have a secret 'just in case' stash building, in case this ever stops!
I'm good thanks Chair. Scan today showed all 6 follies growing nicely and possibly a couple of others behind the cyst (which is now known as 'the beast') so I've just had my final sniffs and then it's hcg jab this evening and collection on Weds. Woo! Feeling much better in myself although the beast is making me a bit uncomfortable
Hey everyone, back from my holidays, I didn't manage to trick the evil witch into coming while I was away, so still holding out for a period this side of Christmas!
Sounds like there is lots going on in the hut, hope to get a few mins to myself later to catch up on where everyones at
I'm good - blood test this morning, am getting pretty used to the needles now! Great news about the 6 follies - fingers crossed for a healthy haul.
Wow great news about the collection on Wednesday fingers crossed they all fertilise and make it through r you hoping for a day 5 transfer?
Hope you had a lovely holiday?
Brilliant news Devil, sorry about the Beast though - will they be able to get rid of it when they collect the eggs?
Flixy, sorry the witch stayed away, hope you had an amazing time though.
Chair, what blood test was that for you?
I've got dildocam tomorrow morning to see whether there's anything growing with the 100mg. If not - it's my birthday this weekend so I shall be going wild
Hi Summer - hope you get on OK with the camera - I'd built it up in my head as a figure of fear so was surprised when it didn't live up to (down to?) my wrost expectations. Still probably not going to make my top 10 lists of fun though.
Yesterday was repeat Day 21 bloods - they were optimisitic when I had my scan that one of my ovaries looked like it might be up to something, so wanted to run the bloods again. Fine by me, it all gets us one step closer to some treatment...
Hi guys. I'm net to mumsnet and have been ttc for 15 months... It's getting pretty rough and just waiting for the fertility clinic to call me after my GP sent a referral through. I feel that I could use a bit of extra support, esp. as I have had 5... wait no, it went up to 6 last night... people in our friends/family circle announce pregnancies in the last 3 weeks.
Can I join in with you guys? :-)
Hi Anna of course were a friendly bunch really despite the gloom however we seem to be having a lucky streak at the moment
Welcome to the hut. I'm a relative newbie too, and can confirm we're all pretty friendly.
And to add to the positive vibe, can confirm that this month I have ovulated! Go left ovary, you little try-er you. (Take note right ovary...)
That's very good news Chair! Well done Chair's left ovary
Hi Anna . We're all familiar with the feeling that everyone else in the whole world is pregnant except you round here. Fingers crossed you get an appointment quickly.
Hi Pink, I'm hoping they'll go to 5 days as the consultant wants to put a singlie back if possible. How are you getting on?
I feel a bit pants today but that's me finished work for a few days so going to chill the hell out after tomorrow morning's over and done with!
I'm alright still no bleeding and hoping that continues till the scan on the 29th then midwife on 5th November if I get that far
Good news on the ovulation front woohoo let's hope it brings some good news x
anna i'm a lucky graduate and can say that the Hut kept me sane <<hush at the back there>> during the latter year of a two and half year journey to find out why pregnancy was proving illusive.
I still pop in now and then to see how everyone is getting on.
Hi Anna & welcome! Extra support definitely provided here - and as others have said we all know that awful everyone else getting pregnant feeling..
Chair, go go GO that ovary of yours! Fingers crossed there are exciting things happening inside you right now.
My appointment today was pretty optimistic. Two follicles this time and one is almost 18mm. My lining's still pretty thin though, so the nurse took bloods to confirm my oestrogen levels and they were high so she thinks there's still a chance of ovulation. Am a bit concerned that even if I do ov and the egg does get fertilised (big ifs) the lining will be too thin to implant, but hey. It's a definite improvement on the last year of pre-pubescenthood.
Thanks guys, I feel very welcome! It's good to hear that there has been a lucky streak and some ovulation in the works (woop woop!) so hopefully it's catching! You know how easily a winter cold goes around? Don't you wish pregnancy goes around that easily?!
Well, my story is that I was on the depo for 3 years and came off it 15 months ago to ttc our 1st. My cycles are only just starting to regulate after going to acupuncture. I'm on day 26 which is amazing seeing as I was having fortnightly bleeds!!
I feel pretty dumb though. I just realized that a lap and dye, which I'm assuming I'll have to go through, is a surgical procedure. The GP explained that they put ink into your system and have a look. Now, how did I think they were going to look??!! I feel a great sense of dread at hearing back from the referral and just really hope I do get pregnant soon! I mean, I'm not ovulating, but does that mean I have to go under the bloody knife? Seriously?
Anyway it's nice to have a vent where I know it's understood :-)
Anna, what were your cycles like before you went on depo? Fortnightly bleeds sound horrific. I've been at the other end of the spectrum with no bleeds at all since coming off Microgynon.
As for the lap & dye - depends on your PCT but a lot of places don't do them until quite far down the line so you may end up not having to have one. The other method of checking out your insides is what we in the hut affectionally call the dildocam which is basically an internal ultrasound - not as horrific as it sounds and all over in about 10 minutes.
As I say, it seems to be different just about everywhere, but if you're not ovulating the first port of call will probably be to give you a clomid prescription (a drug which most of us are either on or have been on!)
Either way, don't feel any dread about the referral, honestly it's such a good treatment when you're through the doors of the fertility clinic and starting treatment.
Hi Summer, I've been at the other end as well- the depo took my periods away for 3 years, and it took me 6 months afterwards for anything to happen. To top it off, my symptom were crazy- I felt pregnant all that time and spent a small fortune on tests! Before the depo they were actually regular-ish. I knew roughly when to expect them. So I'm hoping it will eventually go back to that.
Phew!- about the lap and dye. Even a dildocam sounds nicer, I can handle that! I was sort of hoping they'd just bung me on the clomid but my GP said they will probably want to do tests before prescribing it, so we shall see I guess.
How long were you on microgynon, and how long have you now been off it? I never realised the effect that these chemicals can have! You spend so long hearing how easy it is to get pregnant, and then when you start trying, it's another story.
Well, have a good day folks! :-)
Anna - they may refer you for HSG too, which is a way of checking your uterus and tubes with dye but while you are awake.
I had dildiocam (showed no probs) then HSG (which showed a blocked tube) and then a lap and dye (to unblock the tube and treat the endo they found when they went in)
Lap and dye is keyhole surgery, done under general but is day surgery. It's really not so bad, just gives you sore stomach muscles for a few days.
I got pregnant the month after mine and am currently 23 weeks.
As others have said though, different trusts have different ways of approaching diagnosis and treatment.
Welcome to the hut Anna I'm sure you'll find it very helpful and supportive here.
Sorry not been on in a while, off work with a sickness bug was hoping it was a 24hr thing but gone past that now.
Final scan tomorrow CD17 and then it's goodbye clomid for us - I'd heard so many success stories on it I supposed I'd wrongly assumed I'd be one of them!
Hope everyone else is doing ok and having decent weeks so far x
Oh my goodness queen 23 weeks doesn't seem that long ago at all hope alls well?
Fingers crossed for tomorrow mands but I guess if its not working it'll be good to move onto something else?
i'm fine Pink struggling to put my own socks on now!!
That's me back. Seven eggs (which I keep hearing as a Len Goodman style SEVEN!). They're going to ICSI four of them and IVF the rest. I was slightly confused by all the percentages of how many might fertilise so am just praying we get at least one. Sedation was rather nice and I just feel a bit tender at the moment so so far so good. I have retreated to bed as a precautionary measure and had a lovely nap accompanied by one of my cats .
Devil - seven eggs! Well done you! Enjoy your rest (am deeply envious of your cats, DH will not tollerate the idea of a kitten, and my sense of injustice at this is nearly as high as the one about continuing lack of pregnancy!)
devil that's great! Fingers crossed for you.
mands what will they try next?
I had my last of my first round of clomid yesterday. So just waiting to dtd lots theyve made me horrifically emotional and I'm crying at anything and I've also got thrush. Grrr! Snuggled up on the sofa now while dh makes tea so not all bad.
Woohoo devil that's fantastic!!
They do bamboozle you with percentages but you've got a good shot with the icsi do let us know my first icsi worked so take it easy
Mands, thinking of you today. What's the next step for you after clomid? Always good to be looking forward to the next thing.
Devil, fab news about the seven eggs. As pink says don't stress about the percentages just relax and give your cat lots of loving
Anna, I was on MG for 5 years and have been off it for about 14 months now. Am totally with you on the chemicals thing - before the pill I had very regular periods and they appear to have stopped within two years of going on it (had a break at that point but went back on because I wasn't TTC and doctor advised I should for periods)
Waiting, I'm a bit of an emotional wreck this time around too. But if your hormones are a mess then that means the drugs are working...
5 fertilised eggs this morning!! All the IVF ones fertilised plus two of the ICSI's. Another massive hurdle crossed
How's everyone else doing today?
Summer/waiting - after the scan later today we have a consultant appt on nov 1st so thinking surgery to check blocked tubes maybe? Or injections to get me to ovulate? How i miss normal periods!!! never thought i'd say that! It's a long journey and everyone tells me we're only at the beginning - doesn't make it any easier though!
Hope everyone is doing ok x
Fan news Devil! Thinking of you and your scan Mands.
I've just had to postpone our consultant appointment as DH had a work thing. It's great he's being so supportive and I'm aware how stressful all this can be for both of us, but it did stick in my throat a bit to ask to delay, even by a few weeks.
Still, not long after that we head off in hols, so lots to look forward to.
Fab news even. Stupid iPhone
Ah that's a shame Chair, weeks feel like years don't they? I always try to tell myself it's not a race but it really feels like it sometimes. Where are you off to on hols?
Any news from your scan Mands?
Nothing there that's the end of our clomid journey. Consultant appointment a week on Wednesday. Not feeling too positive today. My best friend gave birth this morning, how bittersweet x
Oh Mands, I'm so sorry it was bad news. Be good to yourself lovely xx
Aw Mands, I'm so sorry to hear that. Do treat yourself. Last time I felt really down, I ate a whole bag of jellybabies... it was quite therapeutic actually! Anyway, treat yourself to the things you love (for me that just happens to mean sweets and chocolate!).
Chair, that's a shame about the delay. When you've been ttc, every day seems precious, doesn't it?
And congrats devil! Good news to hear :-) keep us updated.
As for me, off on holiday with friends to a teeny weeny cottage. Problem is, they're going to want to drink. I'm on day 27, so I'm at that point that I could be but am probably just going to start another cycle again soon. I'm glad they've been regulating more, but I just don't know whether to drink and risk it! It's such a dilemma. I don't usually drink but because we are going on holiday I'm tempted... What do you guys think?
Oh Mands, I am sorry. Spend the time between now and your consultant appointment relaxing, treating yourself, enjoying plenty of hot baths and wine and all the other things you're not meant to have when pregnant and I'm sure it'll fly by. Can't imagine how difficult it is getting that news on the same day as your best friend gave birth. Do look after yourself.
Chair, that is a shame about postponing the appointment, Devil is so right that it feels like a race sometimes (why?! so absurd. why can't we just appreciate this time with our other halves that will seem so precious when we eventually do have children and no free time whatsoever?!! anyway...) Though if you are ovulating just maybe you won't even need that appointment...
Devil, brilliant news for you! When will they be implanted?
Anna, really not sure what to suggest re drinking. I'm in a slightly similar predicament in that this weekend is my birthday and am having some friends over, some of whom I don't want to tell about TTC. Weekend will be days 16/17 for me. I've had odd (sicky, stabby) feelings in my abdomen today and am not sure but am seriously hoping it could be ovulation (mind you I thought that last month too!)
Um - I would (and plan to) basically limit drinking a LOT - just drink very, very slowly and if people are mixing drinks make sure you do your own and just leave the alcohol out. Or say you're on antibiotics.
Try not to worry to much mands stay positive for the consultant appointment when a door closes a window always opens...
mands I'm so sorry to hear that. Their is still hope though as you will just move onto the next treatment. You have every right to feel shit though. Make sure you look.after yourself.
I went to see my Dr ystrdy as my day21 bloodrest is when we're on hols. Apparently you're allowed to have them done at drs tho as you're a temporary resident but they're not v happy about it so I've got to phone and beg.
Thank god It's Friday eh? We're off to the cinema tonight, have a good day everyone.
Mands, so sorry to hear that - do be kind to yourself this weekend. Hopefully the time between now and your consultant appointment will go quickly, and you'll be able to get some clear ideas about the next steps and what they can do.
Happy Friday everyone, hope you all have fun things planned for the weekend.
That's a bit of a pain Waiting, hopefully they'll be nice to you and if they're not stuff 'em
Just had a call from the clinic and embryos are progressing so we're going for transfer on Sunday. Eek!
Wow devil that's the same as me! Wednesday collection and Sunday transfer keep us posted on quality this could be your shot!!
I was trying to remember what your days were pink! Here's hoping lightning strikes twice
How are you feeling btw?
Sick today but not to bad in general. I wake up feeling rubbish for a couple of hours then I'm alright very hungry!
Still not having any tea which is killing me especially since the weathers turning cold but I'm keeping strong got a lot to lose! Very paranoid about a mmc at the mo will be happy when I get to the scan on 29th very nervous just taking it easy.
You planning on going to work in your 2ww? That was a nightmare for me being at home... If you are it'll probably go quicker for you
Yup, back at work on Tuesday. Plan to take it very easy though with lots of working from home. My diary seems to be filling up in my absence but luckily my boss and HR know the score so I'll be able to sort that out. I have to say I am enjoying loafing about at the moment but I suspect the novelty will have worn off after the weekend
Thank you for the support
Wishing devil/pink lots of luck and super positive thoughts!
Happy weekend everyone x
Just popping in to say good luck to devil for tomorrow! The huts cheering u on for a smooth transfer and super sticky bean
Hope everyone's having a nice weekend! Had myself very slight spotting earlier but as usual, nothing since. My body's trying to do something I think, just not quite succeeding!
Aaaw thanks ladies
Flixy I hope your body's gearing up to get on with things and you're having a good weekend anyway.
Night night peeps x
Just popping on to say hello to devil and I'm wishing you all the best today let us know how it all goes wishing you a smooth transfer x
Update: the clinic just phoned and have postponed transfer until tomorrow so they can pick the best blasto. On the one hand I'm pleased my little bobbles are doing so well but waiting til tomorrow means DH won't be able to come with me so I'll have to go alone. Ho hum. Plus I've got to be back at work on Tuesday - I'm thinking I'll speak to my boss and just go in for the afternoon so I get 24 hours rest after transfer.
I think I may have to spend today watching telly and eating chocolate for medicinal purposes
Wow I know it's a pain for you but it's fantastic news they are going for a day 6. Did they say how many of the 7 made it this far?
It was five last time they mentioned numbers but I haven't asked for a couple of days as I'm too scared!
Be good to yourself today devil and have a lovely chilled day.
I am cautiously announcing that AF has arrived, it's been so long since my last one I've kinda forgotten how they start
Ahh devil I'm really hoping this is it for you. I have such a positive feeling for you about it!
Flixy bet you're glad its arrived, how long has it been since your last one?
I've been having a downer today. Day 11 of cycle, emotional wreck due to clomid (i hope it is due to clomid else I'm a psycho for no reason!) Thrush and I've made the mistake of buying ovulation sticks and I know I'm only on day 11 but no sign of ovulation but I just know It's not going to work. Feeling completly sorry for myself
Waiting - I truly know how you feel. I've felt it 3x months in a row. I also used ovulation sticks with no results. It is beyond hard. All I can say is we are all here to listen, try and keep positive as it really does affect your treatment. I know it's impossible to be positive all the time in our positions but keep giving yourself lots of little things to look forward to. Our time will come, don't ever forget that sending hugs.
Devil - got all my fingers and toes crossed for you
Hope everyone else is doing ok. Why oh why do weekends go so quickly! One more week then a week off
Take care x
Thanks mands, we'd reconciled ourselves to the fact that adoption was the only option when they wouldn't allow me to have clomid even though I was below the weight they wanted (we are not going to do ivf for several reasons) so I thought when I was allowed this chance I'd be over the moon but I just have a feeling of doom hanging over me that I just can't shake off.
I know this week will drag before half term, our students are shattered which makes them grumpier than ever and I want to go on holiday!
Devil, everything sounds really, really positive with your bobbles (I like that )
- such good luck for tomorrow, I hope the doctors and nurses look after you very well without your DH there.
Flixy, HURRAH! Brilliant - well done you! Now you have to start watching out for signs of ovulation and all that good stuff!
Waiting, I'm sorry you're having a really crappy day, I find that they come along every so often and the thing to do is just ride them out and wait for the better ones. I know you know that 'normal' ovulation happens around day 14 so it would be a bit early for you just yet; also I remember reading somewhere that you need to be a bit wary relying on OPKs with clomid. And clomid can cause late ovulation - my nurse said up to day 17 in some cases.
I think the attitude to have is - adoption is still there as an option if you need it, but just give the drugs a try, and if they don't work, no harm done (apart from the emotional wreck part - and yes I have been a hormonal witch for the past few days).
I'm on day 17 right now and have been feeling all sorts of strange this weekend - crazy sore nipples, bloated, mood swings... Gah. I'm looking forward to the blood test this week as all this madness must mean something's happening <highly optimistic emoticon>
I was a moany cow yesterday, sorry ladies! It's all a bit overwhelming sometimes. I blame the hormones although I seem to blame the hormones for a lot these days
Waiting I hope you feel better today. If not as we always say on here: be good to yourself. One of my very wise friends (the one who is getting me through this rollercoaster, along with DH of course) once said the way she dealt with bad pmt was to acknowledge to herself that yes, this is horrible. Just acknowledging the feelings seems to make them less painful somehow.
Promising symptoms there summer!
I'm off for transfer at lunchtime so thank you so much for all the crossed fingers and toes. I hope you haven't got cramp yet
Just wishing you good luck for today devil!
I'm feeling rough today but I guess it's a good sign
Good luck devil! Everything's crossed for you!!!
Oh devil you weren't a moany cow at all! Good luck today - I hope you managed to get the extra half day off work so you can rest.
And yes - everything is the hormones' fault!
Another one popping in to wish you luck!
I'm back! One bobble on board and one in the freezer. We weren't given grades but the one on board had already started hatching and the other was almost there. So chuffed to have got this far . DH managed to get away from work in the end as well so chaffeured me home. I'm now tucked up in bed <any excuse> Thank you for all the crossed fingers again xx
Liking the name bobble I think I need one for mine that's fingers crossed still on board names ladies??
You're welcome to have another bobble I also like popple, pippin and squeak.
Ohhh pippin think ill have a mini pippin
Aww love little bobble and pippin!!
Brilliant news devil - fingers still very tightly crossed for you and your bobble (and pink and her pippin!)
Can anyone tell me what's going on with my body?!? AF isn't, ahem.....flowing as it should. Something is there, it's just very reluctant to make an appearance . Been like this since Sunday. Silly weird reproductive system!
Hmm, have you tried going for a run or something? Back in the good old days when I used to have periods I often found that exercise brought them on - also remember going on an activity trip in year 6 of primary school and the teacher telling us very awkwardly that girls often started their periods when they did an atypical amount of exercise so could we please ask all our mummies to pack sanitary towels in our duffel bags
Popping in for a very brief whinge...
Why oh why wont the doctors receptionist give me a print out of my blood test results? All I need is one bit of paperwork to wave at the new clinic to prove I don't have syphilis. She was quite happy to tell me over the phone it's negative, but when I asked for a print out said she would have to check with the doctor tomorrow. Grrr.
Avoiding alcohol might help (apologies if you're a sensible teetotaller not a lush like me )- I often find drinking can stop the flow.
Oh delilah...one of my biggest bugbears in the world is the fact that the NHS don't have a centralised computer database with patient info on it. If Facebook can manage to store the photos, games, videos, etc of 1 billion people then can't the NHS manage to store the notes of just 15 million?!
That sucks Delilah, my doctors have never had any problems with giving me printouts of blood tests etc when I've had consultants appointments. Is there someone you can take it up with? Practice manager?
Thanks for the suggestions ladies! I'm not a big drinker so don't think that's the problem but I might get on the treadmill tomorrow and see if that helps any!!
Hi Delilah, it took me a few weeks to wait for my test results to be printed out by the doctor, she said that she has to go into every different test and print out separately and their system takes a while to load. Because she works 2 days a week, it meant it took a while for her to get to. I'd maybe ring and ask for a call back from your GP, ask them personally, and see how you get on? Plead to their better nature!!
Well, went away on holiday with friends, walked loads and loads, didn't drink when they did on Fri/Sat night. AF started on Sunday.
I'm feeling quite down about it all now. Am really considering giving up for the time being. I always asked myself, "how do I stop thinking of it all, how do I try to 'pretend' to give up?", well, how Im feeling now, I wouldnt have to pretend. (sorry that I'm on a downer).
Devil- good luck. Plenty of bed rest, fingers and toes crossed for you!!
Sorry you're having a bit of a downer Anna. Maybe 'giving up' for a while would help? Even a month of not worrying about it at all might help you feel a bit calmer. I did that this summer - we went on holiday and completely relaxed the ttc and it did us the world of good. We even ended up having a hell of a lot more of the sex because it didn't feel like doing it to a timetable (although I still knew exactly where I was in my cycle but I've just accepted that I can't switch that part of my brain off!).
Completely second what devil says. Why not 'give up' until your lap & dye/you start on clomid? Just assume nothing will happen, enjoy being with your DH, plan things that you wouldn't be able to do with a baby, etc.
After a few months of no AF post pill I pretty much decided we weren't ttc until I got the fertility drugs, and it did make me a heck of a lot more relaxed. (Though - waiting to get the drugs - that's a different story...)
PS Devil how are you feeling with bobble on board?
Hope everyone's doing ok. Sorry to hear you're feeling down Anna, I'm positive things will get better
Quick question for those of you who have taken / are taking clomid - has anyone ovulated really late on it??
Hi Summer! I'm feeling ok so far thank you. Bit odd in that it's been all action for a few weeks and now nothing apart from the blasted progesterone gel so I'm feeling kind of flat to be honest. The progesterone is giving me delightful hot flushes and insomnia so I'm hoping work might be nice and let me work from home this afternoon. I'm desperate for some kind of sign that bobble is hanging on in there but I guess I've just got to keep the faith
How are you doing?
Hehe devil hang on in there it'll be worth it if it does stick around I've been doing the gel for what seems like a lifetime now and it's awful but needs must I guess
Yes hang on in there devil!Hopefully the bad side effects of the gel are negated by it doing the job its meant to do...
I'm ok, got my day 21 blood test today so of course trying to feel optimistic while also not trying to get my hopes up too high
Mands - in response to your question about ovulating late, I have read that it happens, how late do you think it was?
Devil, Pink - hope all those hot flushes are in a good cause! I'm in a bit of pugatorial period - no more tests or anything until the consultant appointment in a month's time, when I'm hoping they might try some clomid to see if that can sort out my ovulation. Still, we've lots of fun things planned between now and then, of the 'if we had kids we couldn't....' and then are off on hols in early December to South Africa so am hoping that time will fly by.
Hope everyone else is doing OK - Mands, I'm not sure about late ovulation on clomid, but am trying to learn lots about it as it's the next step for me and DH, so will keep my eye out for anything I read.
Well, another month of no ovulation for me Am pretty bummed because things were looking good this time - 2 follicles, good estrogen, etc. The positive side is that the nurse said that if I've got follies at next month's day 12 scan they'll give me a jab to try to bring on ovulation - but...feeling bummed anyway. Think I'll give myself this afternoon to feel like crap then onwards and upwards!
Hope everyone else doing well today.
Awww sorry to hear that summer good news they have a plan tho
I'm feeling alright bit sick in the mornings and really hungry but alright really still not believing it yet but still no blood if its good news on Monday dh is taking me out for dinner
Oh my word I can't believe your scan is so close Pink!!
Sorry it wasn't better news Summer, at least you've got a plan for next month. Huge hugs x
I'm feeling better after a few hours rest. Just waiting for poor DH to get back from another epic day at work and I'll probably be in bed by 8
I know it felt like ages away and now it's like ohhh Monday trying not to get carried away but really want good news (not least so I can go out for dinner with hubby)
Thanks ladies - feeling much better now after a chilled evening with DH. A bit confused though as I'm having a bit of bleeding tonight - not enough to be a period but a fair bit more than the only other time I've had spotting since coming off the pill. Confused...
Another one here who can't believe your scan's on monday pink! Time does go so quickly when you're not waiting for a clinic appointment
Glad you two are feeling well, exciting times for you both
Right, definitely having AF. Not sure how that's possible and to make matters worse I don't have any tampons or pads cause its been so bloody long!
Oh no summer how's that then? What's the next step for you?
Well I just spoke to the clinic. The nurse was a bit surprised but she reckons the clomid might be causing me to have short cycles so I'm going to start the next round of pills tomorrow and then go in for a scan and blood test on day 9 (instead of 12) and still get the jab to stimulate ovulation.
At least we'll get the next shot at making a baby sooner rather than later...
Yay for pinks scan being so close - just the weekend to go now!!!
Summer I suppose it's kind of mixed isn't it, it's not nice not knowing what on earth your body's doing but now you don't have to wait so long for your next cycle.
I'm trying to decide if I'm having a period or not, I can't decide if its just spotting or a very light period. Before I went on the pill I did have a mix of very heavy periods then months of light spotting type ones but it was about ten years ago so I can't really remember <<old>>
It is a bit mixed - also, thinking about it a bit more, since my follies were a good size but clearly not ovulated on day 12 last time I can't see that it's a good thing popping them on day 9 - there's no way my lining will be thick enough by then even if I do ov and the egg does get fertilised!
Still there's not much point overthinking it, have to put my faith in the nurses!
Flixy I did a bit of reading last night about spotting v. periods as I wasn't sure what I was having and apparently spotting is basically if there's blood when you wipe and perhaps a dot in your pants. Anything more is bleeding. Sounds like it might be a light period if it's been going on for a few days? Which might not be surprising given that it's your first and your lining might not have built up all that much? Either way I think it's a positive sign...
That's really good info thanks summer. Suppose proof will be when it's over and I start doing the OPKs.
Your right you do have to put faith in the medical staff, sometimes it's difficult though when it's something really really important to us but to them it's just a job I suppose.
Ill third the medical staff thing they are heaven sent with their positivity sometimes to much so.
I know only 2 days now... 3 sleeps as children would say,,, prayers please everyone I'm so so hoping this is it! On the sleeps side of things I would also like to announce that it is 60 yes 60 sleeps till Santa! How's the Christmas shopping going... In my case none existent
OMG 60 sleeps til Santa! I bought some new tree decorations yesterday and there I was thinking I was too early. Ha.
Pink my prayers are definitely with you - just think Christmas 2013 you should have a little one to buy pressies for!
I've actually got my brother's pressies, amazingly organised for me. DH and I usually get ourselves an 'experience' for Christmas - a mini break or really special meal or something - so that's easy. Think we're also going to get the ILs a nice meal out as they have sooo much stuff. I was really hoping I'd be able to give them an early scan pic, but I guess that's out this year BILs will probably get booze!
I don't love the shopping part so much but the wrapping and then seeing all the gifts under the tree...bliss
Woo hoo Christmas!!! We have all of DHs DD presents bought (not really hard as she wanted the new iPod touch so she wasn't getting much else after that!). Think we're gonna have my parents for dinner this year and in the absence of any grandchildren I'm going to dress the dog up in a cute reindeer outfit
I have nothing! So disorganised and really need to get my finger out as we have to drop some presents off in November as out families are a bit spread out across two countries.
Summer have you had problems with your lining before? If it's any consolation my womb lining was about 8.5mm at my day 10 scan which would be more than adequate for impantation etc so allowing for an egg being released on say day 10/11 then hanging around the fallopian tubes for a couple of days as they like to do then farting about deciding whether to implant there may be plenty of time for it to get nice and thick.
I'm chilling the hell out this weekend! DH is off to some work thing for most of the day which I have ducked out of. Had acupuncture last night and apparently everything is as it should be for this stage so I'm trying not to mental too much. My naughty friend is sending me some cheap tests so I forsee some cracking of non-testing resolve occurring fairly soon
Oh and yes to dressing the dog up Flixy! You have to take photos for us I'd dress my cats up but I don't think they'd be amenable!
Hehe I've got 2 dogs reckon ill dress them this year santa and rudolf perhaps or elves
I cracked 8dp5dt just couldn't handle it anymore after reading about ppl getting + that early. I even did one at 5dp5dt just to check the shot was gone...
Am very cross with myself this morning.. Careful tmi coming... Dh and I decided no sex or orgasms till after scan on Monday but I think I make have had one in my sleep! Very worried now so chillin out today poas this morning still 2 lines so fingers crossed it hasn't done to much damage we'll see
Hope everyone else has a SPIFFING weekend planned
Haha pink you crack me up - with both the dogs and the dreams!! I really wouldn't worry - especially if your test is still coming up nice and strong.
We've got cats as well and I can just see the 'are you kidding?' faces if we tried to dress them up...
Devil, thanks for the reassurance Tbh my lining has been a bit of concern at both day 12 scans as being at the thin end - think it was around 6mm both times. And this AF seems to be pretty much done with now which suggests there wasn't a whole lot in there to shed. I don't know...I do like and trust the nurses, but I kind of want to speak to a doctor as well - it feels like the nurses are perfect if things go by the book but it's a bit of a 'well let's try this and see what happens' approach if they don't!
My DH also at a work thing today which I've ducked out of so made the Xmas puds this morn and will now have to sit around for hours and hours while they steam... also need to sort myself out a halloween costume for a party tomorrow - mind a total blank and can't face shlepping into town so ideally want to concoct something from clothes I already own - ideas anyone?!
(It's for a kids' party so can't really be a sexy costume...)
Thanks summer yea 2 lines one slightly lighter than the other but came up straight away I've heard the hcg levels peak at 8 weeks so that might be why who knows fingers crossed for Monday
I haven't done any Christmas shopping and luckily at the in laws for Christmas this year so no cooking for me
Ps I hate crinone gel! Just had 3 lumps of it on the tp GROSS
Oh god Pink, it's EVIL! I feel your pain. I'm more frightened to have sex for fear of what's lurking up there than disturbing anybody who may be in the process of taking up residence.
Summer if I have a period after this we'll have to compare notes as I know my lining was nice and thick but if it's anything like my normal periods I only really bleed for 24 hours properly. We shall see. Or not see, hopefully
No periods for you for at least 10 months devil (10 months? I don't know when they're meant to come back afterwards...) Interesting to hear you normally only bleed for 24 hours though - mine were always pretty short too (on pill and pre pill) - a couple of days actually bleeding then a couple of days very light.
AH the joys of it all.
Well, puds are done so I'm off out to tramp about in the snow and find some sort of costume for tomorrow that doesn't make me look entirely like a hooker.
Happy weekend everyone, hope alls well.
Looks like my 'period??' has left the building overnight so I'm going to start doing the OPKs from today as I have no clue how long my cycle is so no idea when to start peeing on the sticks!! DH actually made a very sensible comment saying that perhaps we should not start trying property until the new year so that I have a few cycles under my belt (where did he get that from??!!) but I'm too impatient so am just going for it!!
Good plan flixy. Keep an eye out for the EWCM as well... I think go for it and then if nothing does happen before the new year at least you can enjoy all the cheese/wine/brandy butter over Christmas... that's the attitude I'm taking at least
I'm working tomorrow so just popping in to say good luck for the scan tomorrow Pink xx
Yes pink very very good luck I'm sure you're soooooo excited!!! The hut is excited for you too!
Lots of luck Pink
Hope everyone else is doing ok x
Thanks ladies I am mega excited but also really nervous fingers crossed my prayers have worked! Only 3 hours to go!!
Another one popping in to shout GOOD LUCK! xx
just popping in to say I'll be thinking of you pink
I've just welled up a bit! (emotional...)
Aww pink I'm sure your walking on air right now!! congratulations!!
Awww thanks Can't wait for a non dildocam scan though will" be lovely measuring 7+1 but its an ivf baby so not a clue really either way but nurses were very happy so hubby can't quite believe it just have to keep things crossed that little pippin continues to grow x
Sooooooo happy for you both Pink!!! x
Hehe thanks ladies x off out for dinner tonight am home from work now did a couple of hours then came home just got changed so I can have a nap on the sofa and have fallen down the stairs on my bum not my belly thankfully but have grazed my hand ouchies not to clever givin pippin a jump before its even started now settled on sofa all chilled with Jeremy Kyle from this morning and a strawberry milkshake x
How's everyone else's day going?
More crinone gel too can't help feeling I've been had 20 applications for £45 joke much
I'm not sure the hut will be able to take this much good news in one day but .......I've only gone and got a BFP
Congrats what a fantastic day!
pink devil squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!
So excited and happy for both of you, huge congratulations. Looks like the hut is becoming a happier place to be
Me and DH had a wonderful trip to Spain, a bit of sun, lots of tapas and red wine, and a very productive visit to a helpful fertility clinic. They were very positive about being able to help us with donor eggs, and we have planned to cycle in the New Year - we could start earlier as there's no waiting lists, but really want to get Xmas out the way, save up a bit of cash, I want to get a bit fitter, and if we conceive in January our baby will be the oldest in the school year <shallow>
They were very sure of being able to find a donor that matched my hair/eye colour, blood group, build and skin tone, and even offered to match our interests. Slightly weird to think my potential children would have biological half siblings out there, but I've always thought that nurture is more important than nature.
Fingers crossed I'll be another graduate soon.
Devil that's amazingly happy news!!!!
Here's to lots of positivity in the hut x
OMG devil major congratulations!!!!!
Oh devil how wonderful!! I'm so, so happy for you!!
Delilah, great news about your trip to Spain - it all sounds fantastic. Good idea waiting til the new year - now you and your DH can just relax for the next couple of months and enjoy being the two of you without all these monthly stresses.
Yy to the nature/nurture thing - nature can increase the likelihood of someone being a certain way but nurture will ultimately decide how they are. And, who knows, you might end up with some mad unexpected talent in the family!
Ill second the made unexpected talent
Just thought, we're both at the RUH so they've got a pretty good average these last 2 months hehel
Thank you so much lovely ladies! Still in shock but not as much as DH
I was thinking that Pink, we must be doing wonders for their statistics. They should have it in the literature: 100% of hut people up the duff from RUH in 2012
Just popping on, head round the door
and tip of tum at this stage! to say Pink so glad scan went well (i did remember on the day but internet access sporadic!) and devil i dont 'know' you but congrats anyway
I would have been on yesterday an wished everyone a happy Halloween but my phone was having a spaz and I didn't have the right buttons at the top of the screen...
Hope everyone's alright? How are you devil?
Hi all, sorry haven't been in for a while, we are ok hols at mo in dorset on a cliff edge with gale force winds so signal is a tad odd
Major congratulations devil and pink.your scan sounds brill. So pleased for you both.
I had a major balls up and forgot to bring my blood test sheet on hols so can't have 21 day blood test. But have been temping and fertility friends app reckons I ovulated on day 17. Temp kept going up but it has dropped slightly today (day 22). It is still higher than day 17 though. What does that mean? Is it good or bad? I'm stressing!
Hello folks. I'm good thanks Pink. Tired and a bit spaced out and not got much of an appetite but other than that and the odd mild cramp nothing much going on! Got a 1-2 weeks on a digi this morning so quite happy with that and off for some acupuncture this evening if DH gets the car back on time. How are you and Pippin?
Sorry I can't be any help on the temps Waiting, I never even attempted them. Hope it's a good sign and you're enjoying your holiday - a cliff top in a gale is my idea of a good holiday.
Glad to hear the pregnant ladies are doing well
Not much going on here - got my day 9 scan this Saturday and if things are proceeding well I guess I'll get the HCG jab then to try to pop a follicle and let a little egg out!
I don't know, am feeling a bit ambivalent this month, am sure that will change this weekend though one way or another.
Waiting, I'm afraid I've never temped either, as both of the months where it was possible I'd ovulate I just made sure we had plenty of sex rather than trying to pinpoint an exact day. Will you get a blood test when you get back or will you just wait for AF/(preferably) BFP?
PS Halloween was such a washout this year, I got tons of sweeties in and not a single trick or treater! We only live slightly in the sticks - I was a bit surprised - but anyway DH was happy as it meant he could raid the bowl to his heart's content
I never temped either I'm afraid just kind of had plenty of 'that' all the way to try and catch it
Feeling a bit sick but not to much today which is nice dont really know what I want to eat I just eat then end up feeling crap never mind
Hi everyone, sorry not been on in a while, hope everyone's ok?
Just got back from consultant appointment and he wants me to do one more month triple dose clomid plus metformin 2 tablets per day from now. If that fails then lap and dye with ovarian drilling too.
Anyone used metformin??
I'm trying to feel positive but am not too chuffed about triple dose clomid plus another medication on top - side effects like lots of 'gas' apparently
Hope you're all ok x
Never been on metformin mands sorry but fingers crossed for you
Mands I've read lots about metformin here and there while researching PCOS - it's a diabetes drug so women that have PCOS and insulin resistance often take it (not sure if that applies to you?)
I have read that it can have some pretty dodge side effects - yes, gas, nausea, etc...I guess it's working on your liver and digestive system so no wonder really.
However it can be very effective when paired with clomid and it's surely worth a shot? I can completely understand why you're not wild about the thought of stuffing your body with all these meds but you never know, this could be the month - and positive that the consultant wants to try that before moving on to more invasive procedures, no?
When will you kick off?
Thanks Summer yeah it's definitely a positive step forward and I too have heard its pretty successful when taken alongside clomid. I'm off to Spain with work next week so had to delay progesterone for a couple of weeks as wont be here for scans. Consultant said to start the metformin straight away though. Thanks for the help/advice/support
Hope you're ok x
Hut's very quiet this weekend (perhaps with two recent graduates!!)...how's everyone doing?
I was back in for another dildocam yesterday and had an 18mm follie so got the HCG jab even though my endo was pretty thin (5mm)
Hopefully the time it takes for the jab to work and egg to be released (oh, come on egg! you can do it...) will give that a chance to thicken up.
Hope everyone's enjoying their weekends x
Back from windy dorset/Hampshire. Was a lovely wk and feel lots better for it.
According to ff I ovulated day 17 so blood test would be too late. I'm now day 8 po and day 24 of cycle. Few months ago I would have killed for a 24day cycle. It's saying It's going to be a 31day altogether. Can't help getting my hopes up even though I know chance of getting pg on first month of clomid is tiny. We dtd lots tho so fingers crossed.
Hope you are all ok x
I'm still here! Too scared to leave really. OTD is tomorrow but if it's ok with you lovely people I'd like to hang around til I've been scanned?
Well done on the 18mm follie Summer! Have they suggested doing anything to thicken the lining?
Sure devil graduates are always welcome in the hut!! Gives us all hope!
If I'm going to have a regular 28 day cycle, I'm due to ovulate tomorrow. Knowing my body, I very much doubt that's going to happen! Doing the OPKs this month just to see, waiting on those 2 dark lines!!
Waves to everyone!!!
I'm still here too! Owing to the fact I'm not letting myself believe yet just not posting as I'm always either being sick or asleep!
Midwife apt tomorrow then another scan on the 12th hopefully showing that little pippin has grown somewhat as they are meant to date it from egg collection I thought which would make me 8+5 today but pippin was measured at 7+1 on Monday making me 8 today hopefully we've had a bit of growth and someone can tell me for sure
Good luck with the jab and congrats on the follicle
Glad you had a good time away too I really need a holiday
... And for those of you who remember I'm quite glad I decided to put uni off till next year
Aw glad to hear that people are well.
Things sound very positive for you waiting, even if you don't get pregnant this month (and why not? Lots of women do on their first month of clomid, no reason why you shouldn't be one of them!) it will be great if the drug is regulating your cycles properly.
Devil, of course you can hang around for as long as you like They didn't seem overly alarmed by the lining thing - I think maybe at this stage the aim is just to get me ovulating, then worry about implanting the thing...
Pink, exciting times - will you get an EDD on the 12th then? Hope you get a lovely midwife! It must feel amazing to be going to the hospital as one of the pregnant ladies rather than one of trying desperately to get pregnant ladies!
Oh summer and pink I hadn't thought of that but I'm actually sitting here crying for you both- the amount of times we've been to hospital and said: "next time we come here we'll be going into the maternity building" and you both actually are! Gives me hope. X
Hehe thanks x well I worked out an EDD of 11/06/13 and the midwife agreed on the phone when I said I had egg collection on 18/09/12 but at scan EDD was put to 16/06/13 as baby measured 7+1 so I don't know either it's 16/06 and its all good from transfer not collection or it is 11/06 and baby will grow an extra 5 days hehe
It is really weird sitting in the waiting room of the clinic with couples who are ttc sometimes I feel guilty for being preggers but then I think well... I was sitting there like you for two years before I now sit there upduffed so..
It will be weird! I don't believe it's real yet though. It's strange on the 'other side' Instead of being jealous when I see a bump I now panic slightly! I shall be testing tomorrow then hopefully phoning the clinic to arrange a scan and working out how I'm going to fit in collecting more of those blasted progesterone tubes of doom between getting my hair done, having the car serviced, a busy week at work then heading to MIL's birthday party at the weekend. I have literally no idea how I'm going to survive that one sober! Got myself a lovely bodycon dress which I will be wearing despite the bloat which makes me look about 5 months gone. I tried it on yesterday and DH, bless him, said 'Ooh, you're getting a bump already'. I felt quite bad when I had to inform him it's just bloat
Hehe :-) they are awful the tubes!! I hate it but I guess it's for the best.
Pink you definitely do not need to feel guilty! Two years is enough time for anyone to serve in this bloody game. So lovely to have a June bub, birthday parties in the back garden... <nostalgia alert>
Devil bless your DH You made me laugh about your MIL's party - the kind of event where a glass of wine in hand is a necessity? No better reason to remain sober than the one you have though!
That's what I thought summer... How's everyone feeling today?
Booking apt went well bloods ouch! 3 tubes! And she gave me a pot to wee in with fmu and deliver back to the doctors... Grrrrreat!
Apart from that all normal just waiting for a 12 week scan to come through now although very excited for my scan on Monday at the clinic but a bit sad as they will then officially discharge me
Well I think I've been a bit of a dope, discovered taking my temperature that when I thought it was 36.1 it was actually 36.7 which means its all going fine. But this has made me think......can you ovulate but not produce an egg? I should know this shouldn't i? Feeling quite positive today even though it's my first day back at work. But on the downside feel period is on its way. Hope everyone's doing ok.
God read that back and it sounds like I've just blurted out all of my mind on here- sorry!
It must all be so exciting for you pink!! I don't think I'd be able to contain myself! Hehe.
I've had a few pains on my left side today which have really made me sit up and go 'ouch' so I hope it's wee eggy popping out.
Evening folks. Official test was a stonking great BFP so booked in for scan on the 22nd and have picked up more progesterone. Told my boss today as I need a risk assessment etc. He was so pleased for me bless him, I was welling up! He was asking me questions about what stuff I'm supposed to avoid and I had to explain that I have absolutely no idea as I've never really thought this far ahead
Waiting, don't apologise for the mind-dump! I have no idea re. ovulation, what does Dr Google say?
Sounds promising Flixy
Glad your appointment went well Pink. Huge steps we're taking here
Seems to be a lovely happy positive vibe in the hut which is fab
Hope everyone's ok. The side effects of metformin have settled. Quite happy that it's that and triple dose clomid for one month more then surgery - I like to have a plan of attack so to speak
Have a lovely evening x
So glad to see everyone doing so well.
Waiting, you can't ovulate but not produce an egg because ovulating is producing (and releasing) an egg but there could be another reason why your temps are changing - sorry not sure if I entirely followed what was happening there?
Flixy, that sounds like it could well be the wee eggy, hooray!
Mands, I'm glad you're feeling happier about the met & clomid now. Like you said, it's definitely good to have a plan of attack.
Devil, that's wonderful that your boss is being so supportive and helpful. Now you get to actually look on the Pregnancy threads...
Pink, I'd of thought you'd be glad to see the back of the fertility clinic! What did they need 3 tubes of blood for?! Ouch!
Not feeling sick today there's time yet tho
Hi all, hope you are all doing ok. Bit of a miserable day here today. Great auntie (who was like my grandma)'s funeral today. 93yrs old and only 14 people at her funeral made me feel very mortal and I sobbed buckets. Day 27 of my cycle and I can feel my body geering up for my period. My boobs feel like udders and for the first time I'm having stabby crampy pains in my lower abdomen which I imagine is due to me ovulating for first time. (thanks summer for the info, sorry I was so waffly) so I'm snuggled up with dh and cat on the sofa eating chocolate.
Hope you are all having a good evening x
Oh waiting, I am so very sorry to hear that. Death is so, so hard and there is nothing anyone can say to take the pain away. I'm glad that you sobbed buckets - sounds strange but it's so much better to get it all out. I hope you can take a little comfort in the fact that she had such a long life - just think of all the changes she would have seen! - and now she is at peace for ever.
DH, cat and chocolate are a recipe for feeling better AF arriving is not such a bad thing - you can get on with the clomid - or those symptoms could mean something else!
Here's a bit from one of my favourite poems which I find comforting when thinking about death.
"I bequeath myself to the dirt to grow from the grass I love,
If you want me again look for me under your boot-soles.
You will hardly know who I am or what I mean,
But I shall be good health to you nevertheless,
And filter and fibre your blood.
Failing to fetch me at first keep encouraged,
Missing me one place search another,
I stop somewhere waiting for you."
Thank you so much for your msg "summer" the verse made me cry it was really beautiful. She was such a wonderful lady, but by the end she had dementia, and just wasn't "her" anymore so it was a blessing I suppose. Just so sad.
Certain symptoms are af and not anything else but I still have a little daydream about it everynighy beforr i go to sleep.
Still feeling v mopey today, buy certain tommorrow will be a better day.
Hope you are all ok.
Hi waiting, I hope today is that better day for you.
It's pretty quiet here, how's everyone else getting along atm?
I've got my day 15 bloods tomorrow - to see whether the HCG jab got me to ovulate or not. If it hasn't then I just don't think clomid's going to work for me - however the positive thing about this board is that, whereas I was petrified of IVF before, I'm now actually rather excited about it!
Ditto summer about IVF!
Hope you're feeling better today waiting
Hope everyone else is ok.
I'm off to Spain with work tomorrow for a week, will try and log on out there. Take care all x
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Will probably post it after work x
How are we all this weekend (almost)?
I'm good - incredibly tired but still waking for 2-3 hours most nights for some reason. Sore boobs and 'hungry but not hungry' but otherwise fine and only 13 days til scan. Telling the parents today as both sets are in the same place for the weekend as it's MIL's birthday do tomorrow. Going to have to threaten severe repercussions if they tell anyone else before 12 weeks
Devil that's so exciting about telling your parents-it's something I can't wait to do if I ever get that far!! I bet you just can't wait!
I think I had a positive opk his morning, the 2 lines look as dark as each other but I've had no other symptoms so I'm doubling myself now!
Hope everyone is well and feeling positive for the weekend
Awww devil! They'll love it let us know how it goes
No sore boobs for me and sickness only really in the early morning and before bed so am managing well at work just want another scan can't wait til Monday am dreading a missed miscarriage especially after we saw the heart beat 2 weeks ago.
Oh devil, how lovely! How did they react? I bet they were over the moon.
I wanted this cycle to work so much partly so we could give the ILs an early scan piccie for a Christmas present...
Flixy, sounds good! Get thee and thy DH to bed pronto!
Pink, I'm sure that heart is still going to be beating away strongly on Monday. You'll have to put a pic of the little pippin on your profile!
Well everything is a bit weird with me right now. I had the HCG jab on day 9 and bloods on day 15, which showed progesterone of 14. Obviously not great but better than 0 I suppose.
Today I went in for a dildocam (because of the slightly weird prog results) and it looks like I've ovulated (due to fluid in the ovary) though there's also a new 18mm follie - that was on the right side, which was weird, because the 18mm last time was on the left side!
All very confusing and I'm basically going back for bloods on Tues to see if there's a change in the prog numbers and to make a plan - I think I might be moved onto the gonal f injections if no uptick in prog.
Bladder infection seems to have got worse and I had really bad kidney pain last night, I told the nurse and she's getting my pee tested over the weekend, she is a true legend. So I guess I'm getting lots of news next Tuesday
Hope everyone's having a lovely weekend! DH and I saw Argo last night, SOOO good - really recommend if you like tense thriller type things.