(92 Posts)
Happilymarried155 Mon 03-Sep-12 21:49:02

Dh just had sa results, everything us really good apart from morphology which is 1%, do we have anychance of concieving naturally?

Kafri Tue 04-Sep-12 19:23:53

I would say yes! If everything else was ok then 1% of his total count is still a fair few ood swimmers and at the end of the day you only need 1 of that 1% of millions to do it's job. It may take time, it may happen straight away-either way, I wouldn't say you have no chance f it happening.

winkle2 Wed 31-Oct-12 23:43:37

Happily - my hub has 1% morphology too. We are waiting results of second SA. Happy to be your buddy of u need one.

Happilymarried155 Thu 01-Nov-12 15:29:28

That would be fab winkle I think from previous threads our situations are very similar! Have had hsg now too and everything seems fine, dh got another SA coming up but I've been pumping him full of vitamins so hoping these might have improved them abit! What's your next step?

winkle2 Thu 01-Nov-12 16:46:31

What's the HSG? Wondering whether or not I've had that yet. confused

Hub has had second SA done so we're waiting for the results. And we are seeing the doctors next week to get referred as I want to talk to an expert!

Thinking of going to this this weekend but not sure if it's worth it considering we are going to the docs next week:

Good luck with your OH's SA.

Happilymarried155 Thu 01-Nov-12 16:51:05

It's the one where they see if you tubes are blocked. We have had all the tests now and all the doctors say that there are no problems to stop us concieving so sent us away to try for another six months. I was upset at first, another 6 months seems like such a long time, but I've decided to embrace these six months with lots is sex, fun nights, glasses of wine and a fab holiday and if it happens then great, if not we start iui in April!

winkle2 Thu 01-Nov-12 17:41:52

How long have you been trying?

I need to have the HSG done, I think that's the next step. I've had bloods taken (which came back fine apart from low red blood cell count so need more iron in my diet) and the pelvic scan which came back clear too.

I'm on month 15 of trying and I don't belive it's going to happen naturally for us. I'm gearing up for IUI/IVF. Still shagging away though, what else can we do?

Happilymarried155 Thu 01-Nov-12 19:05:54

Been trying for 19 long months now!

Fingers crossed for both of us that it isn't too much longer, when I got upset in the fertility clinic the doctor said he was pretty sure we wouldn't need our iui appointment in April so I'm clinging on to that and trying not to stress!!! smile

winkle2 Thu 01-Nov-12 21:58:15

15 months for us!

Did the docs say it was down to the morphology?

winkle2 Thu 01-Nov-12 21:58:36

I mean is that the reason they said it was taking long?

Happilymarried155 Fri 02-Nov-12 08:16:16

No, all the doctors we have seen say that although its low, it's not going to make a difference and shouldn't affect out fertility! As long as everything else is ok; count etc....

winkle2 Fri 02-Nov-12 08:50:56

Ok this gives me hope smile

Happilymarried155 Fri 02-Nov-12 09:27:50

He seems to think we are just unlucky and it's taking us longer than most, I have a friend how had been trying for 20 months and she announced she was pregnant yesterday, have me hope smile

winkle2 Fri 02-Nov-12 10:06:29

Ah that's good news for your friend.

I go on the babycentre boards too and a woman there got her BFP after 15 months and her husband has 1% morphology too...

winkle2 Tue 06-Nov-12 16:21:05

Happily have you had the results of your second sa yet?

We had our results back and Hubby's morphology has gone up smile Only from 1% to 2% but at least we are getting somewhere!

He was really great. Told us we are doing all the right things and to keep going but he'll refer us for IVF if we want to.

He said everything is fine with me but I need to have chlamydia test and a smear before I get referred and he's sending my husband for blood tests and a liver function test because we talked about the way my husband had been drinking in the past and the doctor said it was way over the recommended allowance.

It's been so good for OH to see the effects of him cutting down on drinking and he's come home now and downloaded an app to ensure he stays within 21 units and he has said he's not going to let Christmas ruin his hard work.

So fingers crossed it wont be long now!

Happilymarried155 Wed 07-Nov-12 13:43:23

That's good news, dh SA isn't for another few weeks so we will have to wait and see! I hoping it will have improved abit as he has been taking more zinc and some tree bark stuff that is meant to be good for morphology, so I'm desperate for that to work! I'm so pleased your dh had been better smile

How long do you have to wait to referred for Ivf?

winkle2 Wed 07-Nov-12 16:56:14

My OH takes:

zinc and vit C
wellman conception
insitol (can't remember spelling but it helps cells grow)

He was taking pine bark extract but he stopped... not sure why? Think its because he read insitol was better.

Also his count went up from 35 million to 48 million! 2% of 43 mil is better than 1% of 34 mil! So really don't think we'll be waiting much longer.

We have to have been trying for 2 years. The docs said he was happy to write that we'd been trying for 2 years if we wanted. But as we only get one go, I don't want to waste it when I can see that lifestyle improvements do work.

Might have to save that one go when I'm a bit older!

Make sure you keep me posted with your OH's results and GOOD LUCK :D

Happilymarried155 Wed 07-Nov-12 17:17:39

That's exactly what we thought, it's been 20 months now here, if rather wait another six months naturally. As the fertility doctor said we have more chance getting pregnant naturally within the next six months than we will have doing iui so we may as well wait an extra few months. With Christmas n things in the middle it will fly by and then if I'm not pregnant by then at least I know I have done everything I can!!!

Will let you know dh SA, fingers crossed they improve as much as your dh that's fab!!!! I'm 3 days away from AF, not holding out much hope at the moment as I ovulated the same day as my hsg so I don't think we stand much hope this month! Maybe next month tho!!!

winkle2 Thu 08-Nov-12 09:25:11

I think we're going to assess in the new year about our other options. I think OH should have another SA in feb (so another 3 months) and then we decide from there. Been married 2 years in April so if nothing by then then maybe we look at next steps.

I can't have a lap and dye till I get referred sad I'll be annoyed if I've got a blockage and I had to wait 2 years to find out!

Any idea why your OH's morphology is low? I'm 99% my husbands is due to drinking too much.

Happilymarried155 Thu 08-Nov-12 15:26:49

No he is super healthy, rarely drinks and eats well. The doctor did say you shouldn't judge from 1 SA as this can sometimes be inaccurate, will be interesting to see what the next one says!!!

winkle2 Thu 08-Nov-12 22:41:34

Hopefully the next SA will show that the first one was wrong smile

Happilymarried155 Sat 10-Nov-12 19:00:36

Fingers crossed!!! smile

Luckystarfour Sat 10-Nov-12 21:35:49

Hi all

Just to give you our experience of 1% morphology - we have had three rounds of ICSI and we are 34 and 35. We have had lots of testing across of three cycles to really start ticking boxes. Whilst I agree that it only takes one and if the count and motility is really good ( as my hubby's has been) this is positive, we have found that we can significantly increase all the other stats about make sperm but morphology is likely to change very little. We have recently opted for testicular sperm recovery for our 4th cycle - since we have moved to a London Ivf clinic we are finally understanding the likely cause of our male factor infertility. Following the op our male specialist consultant (introduced to us by our Ivf clinic and only one of two specialists in the country) confirmed he could SEE the problem, the sperm still have very tapered heads, bent necks and whilst there was normal to collect this still needs a method called IMSE - a very powerful microscope to ensure they are genuinely normal!
I am a big believer in trying naturally and taking the pressure off and we too were happy to try ourselves for some time, this consultant has confirmed to us however that it much less likely that we would conceive naturally - and actually we had had three failed ICSI cycles - when we know the best 'looking' sperm was injected into the egg. My advice would be with very port morphology - do not waste time doing cycles without a very through level of additional testing. Ensure you have IMSE, ensure you have array CGH generic testing in the embryos - as they likelihood is although you may get pregnant through ICSI ( and we did on our third cycle) The abnormalities of the sperm may still be too much for the egg to repair and hence the embryo dosent thrive (hence Mis carrying)
Sorry to add a more negative spin on this - but if there is one thing I promised myself is that I'd share my experience with others to ensure they are aware of the possible extra boxes it is worth kicking sooner than later to save others going through three plus cycles which in hindsight had little chane of working!! My advice would be, ask your Ivf clinic for a lot of detail about make factor infertility as many are keen to get you cycling without being specific enough to your needs. The London clinics really do seen to be much better connected to specialists who can really fine tune your treatment.
Our first cycle was free, second cost 6k, third 10k and this next one 14k - goodness knows how anyone is expected to afford this journey, but I would say if we had started with the cycle we are about to embark on, although it may be the most expensive - we would have saved an awful lot of money we have spent reaching this point!
Hope this is somewhat insightful and please don't let our story out you off a period of trying naturally, but I would say IvF, IUI really is a waste of time with very low morphology from what we have learnt. ICSI is a must and the extra tests i mention are well worth looking into!

winkle2 Mon 12-Nov-12 17:44:07

Thx for sharing your story lucky but it's worried me now. Am I wasting my time working on hub improving his morphology and go straight for a referral?

Happilymarried155 Mon 12-Nov-12 19:01:12

If we are not pregnant within the next 6 months then I will insist on some more of these tests. They will not see us again until it has been over two years! :-(
Thanks for sharing your story and good luck smile

Luckystarfour Mon 12-Nov-12 21:59:24

I must admit - we lied with how long we had been trying.

I think the key thing is. Try naturally and do what feels right for you at the time. Then if you find yourself needing Ivf/ICSI make sure you ask for more of the boxes to be ticked early on.

I personally really wouldn't bother with IUI with low morphology especially if time is not on your side.

Everyone's journey is different though, but i have learnt alot by reading about people's experiences and knowing what to ask for.

Good luck ladies and do shout if you ever want to ask more questions :-)

winkle2 Mon 12-Nov-12 22:43:52

Thanks lucky. I've heard that iui isn't worth it with low morphology.

Have you ever been told why morphology can be low? What factors affect it?

Luckystarfour Tue 13-Nov-12 19:32:45

Hi again, apologies I posted yesterday - but I obviously didn't press send.
Each of us need to decide upon our own journey and what's right for us at that time. I certainly have found that I have learnt alot of what to ask by reading other people's stories.

For example there is another strand commenting on the success of IUI at the movement - so that might be worth a read.

Happy to answer any further questions based on our experience at any point. :-)

winkle2 Tue 13-Nov-12 23:35:47

Lucky - have you ever been given a reason why morphology is low?

Luckystarfour Wed 14-Nov-12 20:55:22

Hi both
I seemed to have posted a response three times now but none have shown up.
Like I've said - I'm a great believer in trying naturally - so don't be put off at all! I just wanted you share our experienced of pot morphology so that should you go on to ICSI you can perhaps steer your journey a little to save heart ache and a whole heap of money.
Good luck both :-)

drcrab Wed 14-Nov-12 21:02:24

Can't remember much but dh also did a SA and the morphology was rubbish. He had loads and they did swim but were weird! We did conceive after a year but it was in our first cycle of clomid. He was also on big doses of vitamins, good food etc. that was over 5 years ago. We now have a DS 4.5 and a dd 2. smile

Dr did send us for a lap and dye but we didn't need it in the end.

Luckystarfour Wed 14-Nov-12 21:05:20

Opps now all three responses posted!! Crazy site!

Yes we were old by the consultant that this is heat damage - which is a genetically pre programmed condition, nothing that by husband could do to change it. Then when they surgically recovered the sperm, they could see the effects of the damage - much more so than when normally selected pre ICSI. They therefore had to collect closest to the vascular entry - as this has the least possible damage and muh more chance of normal sperm! Much of the sperm damage is caused when he aperm moves from the testicules through to ejaculate that can take a few weeks and hence damage more apparent. The IMSI technique is an additional method of checking the sperm through a mega strength microscope so that they have a much better hope Of selecting normal sperm. You can have this without the surgical recovery - we wished we'd been offered this on our last ICSI round. We decided to not go the IMSI route alone however on our next round because if that didn't work we would only hen go to surgical collection, hence trying to save ourself further disappointment and funds - we've decided to tick every box this time!
Hope this helps - don't want to overload you at such early stages :-)

1978andallthat Tue 20-Nov-12 23:46:14

Can't remember the stats but when we'd been trying over a year dh's as came back saying amount and motility fine but lower than average morphology. Six months later another test at fertility showed all fine and specialist said it was probably because he had a cold or some other virus we didn't even know about. After 2.5 years of trying it happened naturally the month before starting iui.

winkle2 Sat 01-Dec-12 12:45:41

Happily - has your oh had his next set of results?

Happilymarried155 Sun 02-Dec-12 14:50:20

Hi winkle, no he has the appointment next week so not sure if we will get them before Xmas or not. I feel abit depressed today about the ttc malarky! I've been doing so well lately as well! How are you?

winkle2 Sun 02-Dec-12 17:09:30

We had a wobble earlier this month where oh didn't want to dtd as he felt there was no point. But we got our mojo back yesterday which was cd13 so we're on track for a Xmas BFP (fingers crossed).

Happilymarried155 Mon 03-Dec-12 13:56:35

It's so hard isn't it? sad we are ok cd 27 so I'm a few days il know if I have a bfp in time for Xmas, would be the best pressie ever! I think I'm finding it harder at the moment as I feel like we are on a time limit, we have three more months after this and then we start treatment. I'm promised myself I'd chill out but the last few days I've felt really sad sad how annoying!!!

Hope you manage to get lots of dtd in over the next few days!!! smile

winkle2 Mon 03-Dec-12 14:12:49

I feel so down when I think of another Xmas without children sad

Happilymarried155 Mon 03-Dec-12 15:01:39

I think that's maybe what it is I was sure I'd at least be pregnant by now sad there's still time yet! Positive thinking!!!

winkle2 Mon 03-Dec-12 19:01:51

Totally devestated today at the royal baby announcement sad

Happilymarried155 Mon 03-Dec-12 19:15:02

Even worse my co manager announced she was pregnant today :-( sit next to her in the office every day just the two of us!!!
Enough of feeling sorry for myself I'm waking up more positive tommorow!

winkle2 Mon 03-Dec-12 19:32:13

I have to dtd tonight <sigh>

twinklestar2 Thu 21-Feb-13 12:59:28

Hi happily are you still around?

Wanted to give you an update. We had our referral yesterday and the consultant said my oh has to stop drinking completely for 3 months to see if his results improved. If nothing improves then its a genetic thing and we have to go straight for IVF. I'm also booked in for the hsg to see if it helps.

How are you getting on?

Happilymarried155 Thu 21-Feb-13 17:10:47


That's good news that you have something to aim for? How does your dh feel about bit drinking for 3 months? Hsg wasn't too bad, a little uncomfortable at the time but over pretty quickly, I figured its all worth it! How do you feel now?

Nothing to report here, I only have 2 more cycles until our appointment. He said if I wasn't pregnant by this appointment we could start iui straight away. This is obviously good because it feels like I'm finally doing something but success rates for iui are so poor. But you never know! Did I tell you dh second SA was so so much better than the first, really good infact so that's good!

twinklestar2 Thu 21-Feb-13 20:12:43

My husband is fine about not drinking. We have tried everything else and we both want this so badly so we're willing to do anything. I've said I'll support him by not doing it too.

Glad hsg when well, mines in a couple of months.

Is iui free? I did read OH's SA was better so that's great! My consultant said morphology is linked to smoking and drinking and to stop these both for the best chance. He said if after 3 months OH's results haven't improved its probably a genetic factor and we'll go straight to ivf

twinklestar2 Thu 21-Feb-13 20:13:04

I mean my hsg is in a couple of weeks.

Happilymarried155 Thu 21-Feb-13 21:09:46

Yes it's three rounds of iui and then we move on to Ivf. He seemed pretty sure that we should try iui first but il discuss it with him further when we have our appointment! Did he say the poor morphology was a genetic factor?

That's good, I agree we would do anything anyone asked us to for a baby at the moment!!! Looks like we could both possibly starting treatment at the same time! Makes me so scared and a little excited-but I don't want to get my hopes up!

twinklestar2 Thu 21-Feb-13 21:51:49

Docs said if hub cuts out alcohol and the numbers don't change then it may be a genetic factor.

RedRobin1 Thu 21-Feb-13 23:13:49

winkle found this post on SA and just wanted to say that DH and I have also been told that our first option would be clomid then iui and then ivf.

We have agreed to try naturally until we can take no more (possibly mid 2013) and then start clomid.

I hope it works out for you without the ivf but its good to get some answers. Fx for the hsg.

twinklestar2 Thu 07-Mar-13 23:45:54

Thx red.

happily - I had my HSG and all came back clear. Have you had one done?

Happilymarried155 Sat 09-Mar-13 17:02:26

That's great news!

Yes had mine done in October, mine to came back clear so was debt away for another 6 months as he couldn't see any reason why we couldn't concieve naturally. I now have one more cycle before we start iui. What's your next step?

twinklestar2 Sat 09-Mar-13 18:18:26

Hub has too give up drinking for 3 months to see if that makes a difference to his sperm. If no then IVF.

Happilymarried155 Sun 10-Mar-13 19:26:50

Oh yes I think I remember you saying that. How come you go straight to Ivf and don't do iui first?

We are cutting drastically down on the alcohol too and are due back at the clinic at the end of April to start iui.

twinklestar2 Sun 10-Mar-13 20:41:22

I don't know if they mean iui but said IVF in case they thought I didn't know what iui was?

twinklestar2 Wed 15-May-13 00:21:25

Happily, what's the latest with you? Oh has his SA after 3 months of not drinking on Friday and we're going back to the fertility clinic next weds.

Happilymarried155 Wed 15-May-13 06:50:49

Hi twinkle,
We are due to start iui on our next cycle (depending when it starts as it has to be on a Friday-Sunday)
I'm feeling hopefully, consultant says we have a good chance of it working so I'm clinging on to that hope! We currently have a house full of injections and medication!
Let me know the results of the SA. What's your next steps after this? smile

twinklestar2 Wed 15-May-13 09:52:42

Not sure what our next steps are, will let you know after our appt next week.

GOOD LUCK lovely, I really hope it works for you first time. Keep me posted xxx

Happilymarried155 Wed 15-May-13 15:25:47

Let me know how you get on! I hope his non drinking has done the trick!

I know I hope it does too, I'm trying not to get my hopes up but it's kind of hard when you have a plan of action and feel like your one step closer. I have three attempts though so fingers crossed.
Good luck for next Friday! X

twinklestar2 Wed 22-May-13 23:21:43

How are you getting on happily? The SA showed things had improved but only slightly so we've been advised to go for IVF. Feeling very sad about it all but getting more to grips with it.

Happilymarried155 Thu 23-May-13 18:02:11

Really sorry to hear that sad when will you start IVF? Is it just the morphology that's the problem or count as well?

All ok here, was due to start iui at the start of June but my period is going to come on a Monday which means I can't start it until the following month. I was abit annoyed but as it happens we have a lot going on in June and it would be nice to start it in a quiet month so I can focus in it properly!

twinklestar2 Thu 23-May-13 23:29:10

It's not the count, the docs described the sperm as sluggish. They actually didnt say anything about the morph this time, they did more vigorous tests to see how the sperm perform.

Oh has been taking vits, eating organic food, exercising and not drinking or smoking and there wasn't a significant change. So best option is to go for IVF.

twinklestar2 Thu 23-May-13 23:29:41

Good luck for July, that's when I start too.

twinklestar2 Sun 07-Jul-13 15:09:03

Just wondering how you're getting on?

Happilymarried155 Sun 07-Jul-13 18:49:04

Hi, was meant to start my first iui a couple of days ago but the hospital messed up so having to wait another month sad really annoying! How about u?

twinklestar2 Sun 07-Jul-13 22:43:49

Oh no! Sorry to hear that.

twinklestar2 Mon 29-Jul-13 20:21:43

Happily - my first ivf failed sad

How are you getting on.

Happilymarried155 Mon 29-Jul-13 22:17:01

Oh twinkle sad I'm so sorry to hear that. I don't know what to say as I know nothing will make you feel better right now. Just sending you lots of love and hugs.

Nothing has changed here, hospital messed up last month so couldn't start iui with that cycle. So my first cycle actually starts tommorow. Will keep you posted. What's your next step-how many funded if attempts do you get?

twinklestar2 Mon 29-Jul-13 22:25:17

Thx happily. It's very shocking and upsetting but I have to keep going. Get one more go with my frozen embryo, just waiting to speak to the docs about it.

Good luck with your iui and keep me posted.

Did your OHs results improve? We're looking at going healthier but FFS I don't know what more we can do without life being totally boring and all about babies.

Happilymarried155 Tue 30-Jul-13 07:41:05

His results are not not to bad morph gone up to 4% but mobility and count are very good.
That's exactly the way I've thought lately, I've tried everything and I honestly don't think that having a couple of glasses of wine a week or eating organic pulses is going to make that much difference! I've come to realise this is something that I don't have control over (much to my absolute announce!) and I just need to accept whatever is coming, try not to let it get my down and believe that one day it WILL be my turn!

Thanks twinkle I will keep you posted, let me know how you get on at your next doctors appointment. X

twinklestar2 Tue 30-Jul-13 09:09:02

It so sad isn't it to think that some people get pregnant by having sex in an alleyway and we're doing all this.

Happilymarried155 Tue 30-Jul-13 12:38:34

Yep! But I try not to think about it or it would make me really mad! When do you see your consultant next? X

twinklestar2 Tue 30-Jul-13 12:58:51

In a few weeks. Going to continue being healthy and no alco apart from maybe a few when I'm on hols next weekend.

Did your oh take any supplements to get his results to improve?

Happilymarried155 Tue 30-Jul-13 15:37:20

He has been taking the wellman conception vitamins and then pcynegol (I can't remember the exact spelling but the pine bark stuff. He hasn't altered his lifestyle though, in fact his best SA results came after a few stag do's and a wedding so lots of alcohol had been consumed! X

twinklestar2 Tue 30-Jul-13 16:44:46

Thx I will get the pycegenol again for him I think!

Happilymarried155 Tue 30-Jul-13 18:24:06

Worth a try, think dh was taking two 60mg tablets per day x

twinklestar2 Tue 30-Jul-13 20:56:56


Some one else recommended zinc, vit c and co-enzyme q10. Don't know if oh will agree to taking all these different tablets when the docs said the wellman conception tablet was all he needed...

Happilymarried155 Sat 24-Aug-13 06:56:34

Hi twinkle,
Are you still around?

twinklestar2 Wed 25-Sep-13 15:24:52

Hi happily, I don't come on here much anymore. How are you? X

Happilymarried155 Wed 25-Sep-13 16:07:40

Hi twinkle,

I just responded to you on the other thread to! How are getting along? I was thinking of you the other day.

Out iui worked first time (couldn't actually believe it as we have poor morphology and poor count that day) I was so over the moon but then went in for 6 week scan and they don't think it's developed properly so have had to wait two weeks to go back for another scan, it's been a hideous 2 weeks but I'm just keeping my fingers crossed that everything looks better.

I hope you are ok smile xx

twinklestar2 Mon 25-Nov-13 23:58:33

Happily, how are you doing buddy?xx

Happilymarried155 Wed 27-Nov-13 17:03:29

Hi twinkle,

I'm ok, have good days and bad days-like everyone I'm sure! Just done our second round of iui so in 2ww at the moment, il obviously be pleased if it works again but I'm also very scared sad

How are you doing? Xx

twinklestar2 Fri 29-Nov-13 22:58:47

Good luck love xx I'm doing my frozen cycle so fingers crossed for us both. It's our time xx

Happilymarried155 Sat 30-Nov-13 08:17:43

Good luck!! I have everything crossed for you. I'm trying to be positive about it all and stay de stressed, it worked last time so no reason it can't work again! I've only got 4 days left to find out if it has worked, if not I will until after Christmas to do my last round of iui.

It's definitely our time now twinkle-we have waited long enough!!! Keep me posted x

twinklestar2 Mon 02-Dec-13 14:06:22

Please keeps posted with the result and I will let you knows outcome too. Terrified of having another rubbish Xmas fsad, this will be the 3rd one since trying x

twinklestar2 Mon 02-Dec-13 14:06:56

That should say please keep me posted and that I'll let you know my outcome!

Happilymarried155 Mon 02-Dec-13 19:52:43

Oh god I know! Tell me about it! We are the same, last year was horrible. I really hope I get some good news beforehand you and I really hope you do too! Fingers crossed x

Happilymarried155 Wed 04-Dec-13 06:55:13

Well it's 14 days past iui and it's a bfn. sad im so depressed, I really wanted to start the year on a positive note and not knowing that it's going to be full of more fertility treatment. Sometimes I just don't know how much more of trying for a baby I can take sad

Sorry for the rant! Keep me posted, I've got my fingers crossed for you x

twinklestar2 Wed 11-Dec-13 10:15:17

Argh, so annoying sad What are the next steps? X

Happilymarried155 Wed 11-Dec-13 15:32:49

We have one more go at iui and then into IVF in feb. I've accepted we will be going down the IVF route I think just a case if waiting until feb. I'm really going to try and have a good Christmas and tackle the new year with abit of positivity!

How are you getting on? X

twinklestar2 Wed 11-Dec-13 15:37:36

You seem much perkier today, I'm pleased to see.

Well I actually got my BFP! Very early days so I'm just taking it one day at a time. Have been too scared to tell everyone on mumsnet! Found out last Tuesday.

Happilymarried155 Wed 11-Dec-13 21:24:25

That's amazing!!!!!!! I had a feeling you were going to say that!! Keep me posted, I'm so pleased. Made me feel much more positive too-what a wonderful Christmas present!!! X

twinklestar2 Wed 11-Dec-13 22:04:13

Thank you so much, we're both really happy. It's been a long time coming. Enjoy your Christmas and look toward the new year. I think thats the only thing you can do to keep you going.

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