Clomid, no follicles and feeling sad :( - and new to Mumsnet

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Hello all,

Totally new to the site and hoping to hear what your thoughts/experiences are on Clomid.

Bit about me: 34, lost a Fallopian tube five years ago and I have pcos. After over a year of trying and all sorts of tests, I got put on 50mg three months ago - I didn't have any follies big enough and my progesterone was v low (3!) so they upped my dose to 100mg the second month - worked a charm - had three big follies and the fertility nurse decided to trigger with an injection. I didn't get pregnant but my progesterone was 83!

Thrilled to bits that it had worked, I recently went into round three thinking it would be fine, but I went to the hosp for my scan on Friday (CD12) and there was nothing there! Not a follicle in sight. The nurse said I may have ovulated on my own early or maybe it didn't work this month, but they won't know until after my progesterone blood test this Friday.

I feel so flat and sad and like its never going to happen. Trying to keep strong and not obsess too much, but I couldn't face going to work today and called in sick. Sorry for the long post, but does anyone have any advice or clomid experiences they could share to give me a bit of hope?

candyqueen89 Thu 25-Jul-13 16:36:28

Hiya ladies was wondering if u may b able to give some advice. I am on my first month of clomid and i have ovulated thus month but ovulated on my 20th day is there still chance i could get pregnant even thou my cycle is 28days thanks

vibra Mon 22-Jul-13 20:01:33

helo all,

I have just finished the clomid course but unfortunately it has not worked for me. and I am referred to ivf which is very expensive for us. I am so down and stressed.

Hi Green. So sorry to hear you're having a hard time right now. There really is nothing more heartbreaking than this infertility business. BUT, the thing you should keep in mind is that Clomid is usually the first stop in treatment and there are lots of other things than can be tried: Injectables (really worth asking about if you had other successful Clmid rounds), IUI and IVF to name a few. I hope you don't think I'm being dismissive of your situation. Just trying to give you hope and to say that there is much more that can be done. I've recently read about Dr Zhai - google her and have a look at her success rate. Might be worth looking to it?
Anyway, hope you're feeling happier soon and know that you're not alone in all this. There are literally thousands of us in a similar canoe. xxx

Greengummi65 Mon 15-Jul-13 21:53:19

Hello. The name of this post couldnt be more fitting for how I am feeling right now. Just finished last round of clomid 250 w estradiol and progesterone gel. Me and my hubby decided a year ago that we would like to add a second child to our family. Sat got my flashing smiley face for 2 days and then this morning a solid smiley face using Clear Blue digital. Went for a follicle scan this morning and there are NO follicles on either ovary. All my dr could say was sorry. No further meds or appts. I should prob tell you Im 47 and hubby is 34. Feeling devestaed...

Leopardspots Sat 22-Jun-13 00:48:59

Thanks feather. Like you say if it makes you feel better it will hopefully have a positive effect. Think I might do the same, although I already rattle when I walk due to so many tablets lol! grin

I will use the time to hopefully shed some pounds & get in the best position I can for the next stage!

Good luck, I have everything crossed it will work for you soon smile

I'll keep you updated xx

Well, September will be here before you know it - 9 weeks away! I know all the waiting is hard, but just use the next 9 weeks to feel great, do nice things and have fun. It's been so easy for me to forget to have fun during all this ttc stuff. It's gonna happen for us Leopard!

I finished work today and went to Whole Foods and spent a small fortune on vitamins and supplements, magnesium bath salts and a whole bunch of ridiculous things. Somehow it made me feel better - like I'm taking a tiny bit of control back. I just want bloody af to show up now!

Keep me posted on how you are and I'll do the same. smile xx

Leopardspots Fri 21-Jun-13 16:58:57

Hi feather. Sorry about your BFNs sad remember it's not over till af arrives!

Date came through for my lap, 12th September! Ages away. On the plus side I saw my diabetic consultant on Wed and he wants me to take a new drug that can significantly help with weight loss combined with the diabetes medication I'm already on. He's given me a couple of weeks to do my research then go back and see him.

He's also writing to my fertility consultant to suggest she does ovarian drilling during my lap to hopefully kick start ovaries without clomid.

Just a waiting game now x

Leopard! Marzi! Just checking in on you two. Leopard: have you had your lap yet?
I'm on cycle day 33 - no sign of af and getting BFNs even if I just look at a hpt. Knew I was out this month though so no surprise.

Hope you're both well. xx

Leopardspots Tue 11-Jun-13 21:32:07

Thanks feather. Bit more positive today, just trying to de-stress and 'forget' about ttc until my appointment comes through. Fingers crossed it works and we get lucky so I don't need the lap lol! smile xx

Not hijacking AT ALL! Hope you're feeling better today. xx

Leopardspots Tue 11-Jun-13 18:17:36

Thanks marzi. I'll mention the ovarian drilling then, good idea.

Like you say at least I'm moving forward. I just thought that clomid would do the trick so hadn't really prepared mentally for the 'next step'.

Thank you all for advice - sorry for hijacking feather! smile

marzipanned Mon 10-Jun-13 22:12:24

I'm so sorry about your news Leopard.

If I can try to cheer you up a tiny bit... I had the lap under anaesthetic and it really wasn't bad. I went home the same day and I was sore for a few days but it was rather nice having an excuse to chill in bed while DH did everything round the house smile

Could you ask about having ovarian drilling while they're in there? Some women actually ovulate naturally after OD while others (including me) become more responsive to fertility drugs. I think it's worth a shot!

I know operations are horrible, and you've had so much awful news to deal with already, but the good thing about this one is it really will move you on treatment wise.

Leopardspots Mon 10-Jun-13 20:06:47

Thanks feather. Just one more hurdle to overcome I suppose.

Hope you get some good luck soon xx

Oh, Leopard, sorry to hear that. I know it's probably not what you want to hear, but it's really important you stay in a positive frame of mind. Difficult when you're going through what we are, I know. The bright side is this: even if one of your tubes IS blocked, it's possible to get pregnant if you are ovulating. I lost my right tube five years ago and I'm constantly reassured by docs that you can get pregnant with one. There's lots of women online who have been through it and say the same thing.
My advice is to do things that make you feel nice and don't be too hard on yourself. I'm trying my best to stay positive this week after a shocker last week. Sending you lots of happy vibes. xxx

Leopardspots Mon 10-Jun-13 17:29:31

Hi ladies

I saw my consultant today and I am booked in for a laproscopy under general anesthetic sad apparently when I had my hycosy my left tube didn't let the dye through and so could be something wrong. They think it was just in spasm but want to do this procedure to check. If clear I will have IUI when I've lost some weight or straight to IVF if they find an anything.

I'm finding this all so stressful, we've been ttc 3 years this summer and since that time I've been diagnosed diabetic, pcos and I don't think I can handle much else sad

Sorry for being so miserable it just gets on top of you sometimes doesn't it x

Leopardspots Sun 09-Jun-13 19:36:11

Thanks ladies. Fingers crossed and positive thinking all round! smile

Feather I've looked into the 5.2 and will mention it to my diabetes consultant when I see him in a couple of weeks. Low carbing does work so might be good for you?

We WILL get there eventually! Marzi good luck with your pg too smile

marzipanned Sun 09-Jun-13 18:50:36

Oh Leopard, I know what a battle it is to lose weight with PCOS. Nothing to say but good luck and stick to it!

Yes, Leopard, definitely important to stay positive. It sounds like you are on the right track with that smile

Leopard: I'm toying with the idea of giving the 5:2 diet a go as I need to lose some weight too. Not sure if its something possible for you to try because of diabetes? You'll have to forgive my ignorance on that front.

Baby dust to all! smile realising how important it is to stay positive. Read today about how scientists believe how powerful our minds are in manifesting our realities, so going to try, try, TRY to think good thoughts. Thanks again for all the advice, support and good wishes ladies!

Leopardspots Sat 08-Jun-13 23:50:47

Thanks feather. Everything crossed for you too smile

Marzi, my BMI is 34 and needs to be 30 so it's high but not mega high. I'm a size 14/16 so not huge smile its such a battle though. I follow a low carb diet as I'm diabetic anyway and struggle immensely to loose weight. It's just something I'm going to have to do though. PCOS + insulin resistance/diabetic = weight struggle!

Thanks for the advice. Good luck with your journey smile

marzipanned Sat 08-Jun-13 17:55:17

That is strange, Leopard. You mentioned that you need to get your BMI down for IUI - is it very high? There's a chance that's what's getting in the way of your getting pregnant as it seems like everything else is in excellent order. I've done quite a bit of stats searching over the past year and BMI does seem to have quite a big impact.

Thanks so much, Feather smile Yes, you can definitely ask them if you can do the full six rounds of clomid! Everything crossed for you. x

Leopard - TOTALLY works in mysterious ways. I have everything crossed for you this round. smile

Marzi - yes calm is definitely the way forward - just hope I can keep it up! Wondering whether I can ask them if I can do the full six rounds of clomid before moving on to injectables if clomid doesn't work? Just don't want to miss out on the 5th and 6th go! Wishing you a healthy and happy pregnancy and all the best.

xx

Leopardspots Fri 07-Jun-13 22:08:25

Hi all,

Onwards & upwards feather. Thanks for the info on the meditation, I'll look into it - anything is worth a go! smile

I had day 17 scan today and no follicles so looks like thats it for me on clomid. I'll know more about the next steps on Monday when I see my consultant.

Hi Marzipanned. I had a hycosy before I started clomid and all seemed fine so at least that's something I don't need to worry about. Not sure if the progesterone would help much either as even though I ovulate late my luteal phase is 12-13 days so in the normal range I think. I'll definitely ask the question though thanks. My endometrium is also always a good thickness too as I know clomid can thin it?

I've just no idea why I haven't fell pregnant as hubby's sperm tests were v.good on all counts too confused

Trying to stay positive but it's hard, month after month and knowing there is nothing much else we can do to make it happen.

Mother nature works in strange ways at times smile

marzipanned Fri 07-Jun-13 20:48:51

Hi Feather, I'm glad you're feeling more upbeat. I think calm is the best you can hope for in this situation smile That's great news that they're moving so quickly with the injectables (though, of course, fingers crossed you don't need them).

Leopard, good luck to you too. A couple of things that might be worth bringing up with your consultant - have you had a lap and dye/tubes checked yet? Since you've been ovulating yet, is there a possibility of taking progesterone to extend your luteal phase? The fertilised egg needs longer than a week to implant (assuming you're having 28-ish day cycles)

Well, did my 21 day progesterone blood test this morning and miraculously got results in the same day: as suspected, I didn't ovulate this month and my prog was at 5. The nurse gave me another round of clomid at 100mg and has said they would want me to move onto injectables if this next round doesn't work. Feeling pretty calm, oddly. Just wanted to update you.

Also, Leopard - do try and stay positive on this round! I downloaded a set of two clomid assistance meditation mp3's from catchingrainbowsfertility.co.uk (think it was £15 for both) - the first you listen to while taking the pills and the second is to bring on ovulation. I can honestly say that the month I did the meditations every day, I got brilliant results, and the month after, when I didn't bother, I got nothing. Not sure if it's at all related, but it was very relaxing putting my headphones on and zoning out every day and plan on using it the next round. It's not for everyone - a bit airy fairy - but I thought it was great.

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