The Depths to which the Sugar Pushers Sink - Tesco

(149 Posts)
LauraBridges Fri 07-Feb-14 11:02:43

We are exhorted to avoid sugar (I don't have any ever other than a bit of fruit). Yet day in day out it is peddled and pushed on to us and our children at home, in schools, by others.

This morning Tesco delivered our weekly shopping. There was an item I had not ordered. It is in front of me now. I asked the delivery man about it. It is a free gift. Guess what it is? Sugar.. or rather an organic rice cake think covered in Belgian chocolate. At Christmas Tesco gave us a large box of sugary biscuits in a tin.

Why don't they give customers carrots or cucumbers? Why just junk food that ruins your health?

I told the driver I did not eat any sugar but perhaps my family might eat it. He took a while to believe me, said he could never manage that and then disclosed that he is diabetic (he didn't look over weight particularly but is of Indian origin and middle aged).

poopooheadwillyfatface Fri 07-Feb-14 11:04:46

shock

damn them. giving you free stuffshock

Fancy spoiling chocolate by putting a rice cake in it.

Honeysweet Fri 07-Feb-14 11:05:34

Tescos wont be able to win with this one. Whatever they put in, someone somewhere will complain.

poopooheadwillyfatface Fri 07-Feb-14 11:06:20

you never have sugar?
never finish off a lovely meal with a nice chocolate pudding or a creme brulee?
you poor thing.

Honeysweet Fri 07-Feb-14 11:07:50

This poster is an "extreme" poster.

BagOfBags Fri 07-Feb-14 11:08:43

Tesco's delivery give you free stuff?!
I'm not sure I follow why you're surprised that the delivery driver wasn't overweight and was middle aged and Indian..

Poor delivery driver sad.

LackaDAISYcal Fri 07-Feb-14 11:09:43

Because free gifts are meant to be nice and a treat, not a fucking cucumber.

I'm also thinking why ruin some nice Belgian chocolate with a rice cake!

So you don't ever have added sugar. Bully for you. Give it to a neighbour.

And I fail to see what the delivery driver having diabetes has to do with anything. He could have been type 1 since childhood which has feck all to do with over consumption of sugar.

Have a <chocolate covered, sugar sprinkled> biscuit

CheesyBadger Fri 07-Feb-14 11:11:35

How do you avoid sugar altogether? Just genuinely curious, and do you feel good for it?

Pagwatch Fri 07-Feb-14 11:13:06

Say what?

You are complaining about a free gift?

Why don't you accept it with some grace and put it away until your child's school or somesuch need tombola prizes?

Sparklingbrook Fri 07-Feb-14 11:13:32

Eww. Rice Cakes. sad

normaleggy Fri 07-Feb-14 11:15:28

Why did you feel the need to tell him that you don't eat sugar? I'm completely baffled by your last comment. Not all diabetics are overweight or middle aged Indian men.

Still I expect we're all looking forward to receiving a bag of carrots or a couple of cucumbers on Valentine's Day.

Gladvent Fri 07-Feb-14 11:17:45

I have a friend who doesn't eat sugar. It is so fucking tedious. All the health benefits are cancelled out by the being a PITA if you ask me. Though I am not a diabetic indian man, if that's relevant, which it doesn't appear to be.

Anyway have a biscuit seeing as we don't have an emoticon for [healthycucumber]

thinking101 Fri 07-Feb-14 11:17:50

I think if you were given a cucumber you would mistake it as an insult to your sex life blush - yes extreme poster.

tethersend Fri 07-Feb-14 11:19:28

grin at extreme posting.

Is the OP abseiling as she types? grin

They've never given us Kallo rice cakes, we have to buy them ourselves! This may be why we don't get them free of course.

Pagwatch Fri 07-Feb-14 11:32:38

Chocolate topped rice cakes are gorgeous.

Sparklingbrook Fri 07-Feb-14 11:42:45

Are they Pagwatch? <sceptical>

Pagwatch Fri 07-Feb-14 11:45:08

They actually are. Whilst ordinary rice cakes are like old socks.
The combo of chocolate and rice cake was a surprise to me tbh.

Sparklingbrook Fri 07-Feb-14 11:48:31

I will do a taste test. smile Perhaps there will be some in my Click and Collect order on Sunday.

PenelopePipPop Fri 07-Feb-14 11:49:14

They are free - did you consider just throwing the unwanted biscuits in the bin?

That's a free suggestion too.

Sparklingbrook Fri 07-Feb-14 11:51:36

Foodbank?

specialsubject Fri 07-Feb-14 11:51:57

obviously nothing is actually 'free' as it will be factored into the overall prices at Tesco.

nonetheless
a) this is as entitled as it gets. It gives me great pleasure to award my first biscuit.
b) fruit contains sugar
c) bet you do eat sugar
d) it is not 'peddled and pushed' You do actually have the power of independent thought and it isn't hard to ignore sales.

EauRouge Fri 07-Feb-14 11:53:39

Eat it, maybe it'll cheer you up a bit.

Hedgehog80 Fri 07-Feb-14 11:56:43

I'd better take dd2 back to the hospital and explain that her diagnosis of diabetes is clearly wrong as she isn't of Indian origin or middle aged!!!

What a ridiculous thing to include in your op. anybody can develop diabetes regardless of race/age/weight

Dark chocolate covered rice cakes are scrummy yummy!!

OP do you not eat any veg then? As some veg has natural sugars in.

OMG, you also don't drink alcohol - that is hardcore!!

There was some sciency stuff recently saying (can't link or quote, just what I recall) saying that if we avoided all the processed foods with added sugars that have only recently come into our diets, then having the odd bit of sugar in puddings and cakes (and booze) like we used to in the clearly now golden-era of pre-1970s was just fine.

It's having it in almost everything, and hidden, that's not good.

Mmmmmmm sticky toffee pudding <drools> Bit of what you fancy does you good I think.

shallweshop Fri 07-Feb-14 12:02:35

The Bastards!

AllMimsyWereTheBorogroves Fri 07-Feb-14 12:02:38

They're not really free gifts. They're free samples and if you don't want them you can put them in the bin or hand them back. Tesco used to offer me a free copy of the Daily Mail with my internet delivery, which I always handed straight back. This week Ocado gave me a free bag of crisps and a free bottle of some sort of fizzy drink. Very, very occasionally this leads me to buy the item but usually we try it and forget about it.

Genuine free gifts: Ocado do a weird thing of giving me a free bottle of wine on the anniversary of my first delivery from them. This is very welcome!

NinjaPenguin Fri 07-Feb-14 12:06:02

I would love this to happen to me.

Hazelbrowneyes Fri 07-Feb-14 12:09:16

I'm also interested in how you avoid sugar completely. Do you never eat out?

I love chocolate rice cakes.

KatharineHepburnsTrousers Fri 07-Feb-14 12:17:31

<laughs>

What a load of old WANK

HazeltheMcWitch Fri 07-Feb-14 12:20:15

I read the OP with a mental picture of a Daily Mail-style article, accompanied by the saddest of SadFace.

marshmallow2468 Fri 07-Feb-14 12:28:20

My one year old has just eaten half of one of the free gift chocolate covered rice cakes. Am I going to go to hell? He loved it, hadn't eaten chocolate before!

LauraBridges Fri 07-Feb-14 15:20:09

You know what I mean about sugar and of course I don't drink alcohol.
it's just that the press has been full of how bad sugar is for us and we all know that and that everywhere you go it is pushed at you. If it were cocaine or free vodka that Tesco were handing out to drug addicts and recovering alcoholics people would be up in arms.

As for the little discussion I think it's really important that those of us who eat healthily let others know it's possible. He volunteered that he had diabetes and as we all know you rae more likely to get it in mid life if you eat the standard Western diet and are of Indian origin. It was pertinent that someone with that health issue is still cramming his body full of sugar and his employers are trying to ensure that all customers are hooked oni t too.

The fact no one on the thread except for me thinks this is wrong shows why the nation is dying of obesity, diabetes and has increased rates of dementia and depression.

nicename Fri 07-Feb-14 15:23:26

Chocolate on rice cakes? Bleuch. What a waste.

I'd rather someone gave me free cheese.

HipHopHooray Fri 07-Feb-14 15:23:35

I've just been and bought some chocolate rice cakes on the back of this thread and you're all right - they are properly delish. I may start getting my shopping delivered so I can get some free......

Ragwort Fri 07-Feb-14 15:26:04

This anti-sugar thing has only become 'trendy' in the last few months and now everyone is thinking it's the best diet advice since sliced bread grin.

If you don't want the free gift please pass it on to your local food bank where all donations, whether they contain sugar or not, will be more than welcome.

How boring your life must be if the only sugar you ever have is 'in a little bit of fruit'. hmm

These sorts of threads always make me want to go and eat a large piece of cake.

<fat and happy emoticon>

snoggle Fri 07-Feb-14 15:27:50

Oh I love chocolate rice cakes!

OP so do you eat bread? Potatoes? Pasta? All contain sugars.

I don't eat sugar. I don't think I'm devoid of fun, especially when I'm drinking my buttered cocoa or stuffing pork belly down. Other people have different ideas of 'treats', my idea of a treat isn't something sugary. I don't get why people get cross and say my life must be boring.

FuckyNell Fri 07-Feb-14 15:33:06

I agree op that as a nation we eat too much sugar but come on, everything in moderation eh?!

RightInTheKisser Fri 07-Feb-14 15:33:24

I think it's more the lecturing high horse aspect of the OP which people haven't taken a shine too. Feel free to eat no sugar but don't lecture me or random delivery drivers about it!

bruffin Fri 07-Feb-14 15:33:37

He volunteered that he had diabetes and as we all know you rae more likely to get it in mid life if you eat the standard Western diet and are of Indian origin

Sugar doesn't give you diabetes. If he is Indian he has dark skin and cannot process enough vitamin D in the northern hemisphere. There is a link between lack of vitamin d and diabetes.

Ragwort Fri 07-Feb-14 15:38:27

Asea - it's the priggish attitude of the non-sugar eaters that I find so irritating, fine if you don't eat sugar and you feel better for it but stating it in such a 'holier than thou' attitude and almost apologising for 'only having sugar in a bit of fruit' just comes over as someone who is incredibly serious and studies every single food label before daring to have a mouthful grin.

And starting a thread on the subject (& referring to the delivery driver's ethnic origin confused) - it just strikes me that this is a person who is obsessed with the boring details of food - of course I could be very wrong. smile

<goes back to cake>

nicename Fri 07-Feb-14 15:43:22

Well there are loads of things IMHO people shouldn't do but I don't feel the need to bang on about it.

I shall do if asked though!

I'm not priggish :-(

But if I mention that I don't eat sugar, I get, "Yes you do," or, "It's in pasta," (I don't eat pasta). It's almost as if there are some people who become defensive when talking about their own diets. Me, I'm not that fussed.

(Yes, the ethnic origin threw me a bit, but I thought it was a reference to the different rates/likelihood of diabetes.)

I hope you enjoy your cake :-)

nicename Fri 07-Feb-14 15:48:19

Sugar in pasta?

I suppose there are ways and ways of saying it though:
'No thanks, I try to avoid sugar' or 'PUT THAT BISCIUT DOWN, TAMARA! ITS POISON!'

TheGonnagle Fri 07-Feb-14 15:48:50

No sugar.
No fats.
No carbs.
Skimmed milk/full fat milk, butter/margarine etc etc etc

Could it be that actually everything in moderation and nothing to excess is the way forward?

Hazelbrowneyes Fri 07-Feb-14 15:50:27

really important that those of us who eat healthily let others know it's possible

hmm How patronising?

Seeing as you eat so healthily, OP, would you mind ever so much sharing an example of your daily food intake to help us mere mortals understand better?

Asea - you haven't come across priggish at all smile

Monty27 Fri 07-Feb-14 15:55:33

OP best stay away from Waitrose online then. They're giving free bottles of champagne at the minute smile. The alcohol-pushing criminals shock

The Gonnagle No fat? That would destroy me. I mean, I love my veggies, but life without vasts amounts of butter would be pointless.

Hazel smile It's all the fat I eat grin

RescueCack Fri 07-Feb-14 15:57:54

I actually agree with the OP. Nowhere does she say she berated the driver. They had a conversation about her free gift. It is a problem. I don't eat sugar or grain and no-one seems to believe it's possible confused, because we've been brainwashed into food coming in processed form with a load of addictive crap added.

The food industry has a lot to answer for, but we can't say we didn't know. The information about what is in your food and what that does to your life expectancy, and quality of life, is freely available. But if you're addicted you laugh it off and think those who aren't are not 'living fully'.

OwlCapone Fri 07-Feb-14 16:00:28

Carrots have 4.7g of sugar per 100g.

Just saying.

ouryve Fri 07-Feb-14 16:09:11

Laura aside from your ignorant and pretty offensive assumptions about diabetes, you're completely over-reacting. You don't want it? Fine, give it back or donate it.

Sugar isn't that great for you, we all know that, but becoming obsessively worked up about a packet of chocolate rice cakes isn't all that healthy, either.

BuzzardBird Fri 07-Feb-14 16:09:52

because we've been brainwashed into food coming in processed form. No we haven't, or are you speaking for yourself?

All food contain an amount of sugar. Unless people are existing on water on diets then this is a load of hogwash.

Believe or not most people have a brain in their head.

shallweshop Fri 07-Feb-14 16:10:37

Rescuecack - there is such a thing as moderation. I don't think it s necessary to be so extreme as to cut out a whole food group (unless of course you have an intolerance). Nor do I live solely on processed food. A healthly, balanced diet seems the most sensible option. I was watching supersize vs super skinny last night with the severely anorexic woman who said that cutting out a whole food group could be a warning sign of the disease in young people.

ouryve Fri 07-Feb-14 16:12:40

FTR, I thoroughly enjoyed the small bag of sweet and salty popcorn I've just had. I have the lurgy and can't stomach my usual post long walk handful of nuts, but the popcorn went down extremely well without giving me a tummy ache.

And I have waitrose/ocado jealousy, again.

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Ragwort Fri 07-Feb-14 16:13:33

I think it is too easy to say people are brainwashed into thinking all food is processed with a load of addictive crap added.

I am an intelligent adult, I know how to cook from scratch, I know what is added to food but I am perfectly capable of making up my own mind and if I want to eat a piece of cake it is because I enjoy the taste not because I have been 'brainwashed' hmm. Of course I know that the food I eat may reduce my life expectancy but I can make my own decision and quite honestly I would rather have my cake and eat it grin even if that means my overall life expectancy may be a little shorter.

holidaysarenice Fri 07-Feb-14 16:17:06

Middle aged and indian origin are risk factors for diabetes. Non modifiable ones.

Weight is a risk factor. A modifiable one.

DuskAndShiver Fri 07-Feb-14 16:26:01

I see the OP's point, although I agree there was no need to bring the delivery person into it.

But there are quite a few discussions on mn (and elsewhere) about why people are apparently getting so disastrously fatter, and I think there are reasons for it at a societal level that go beyond "people is greedy, innit". The chocolate rice cakes are just an example of stuff that no sane person needs, unless they already know about them and are buying them already. I suppose for instance they act as gluten free chocolate biscuits, maybe, and are useful as treats if you have gluten intolerance? Otherwise, what part do they play in your diet? Just extra sugary stuff masquerading as "healthy" by including a rice cake which is presumably benefiting from some WW-derived low fat halo effect.

I am the opposite of judgy about food and overweight people and this is why I think this sort of thing should be challenged (at source, not with the delivery person)

btw, random aside, something about the phrase "cooking from scratch" brings me out in an absolute ecstasy of vile squirming at the sanctimony. I don't know why. It's not the idea, it's saying it in that way. Ugh I can't bear it.

LauraBridges Fri 07-Feb-14 16:51:33

The delivery man saw I was puzzled by something I hadn't ordered nad said it was a free gift. We had a nice little chat. I certainly wasn't standing there berating a diabetic Indian for eating lots of sugar. He looked at what we had bought briefly, presumably to verify if what I had said (which was only about a sentence) was true and the contents of the shopping would have shown that was so.

I think it's a shame that the UK has moved to a stage where if you eat normal healthy foods as I do you are regarded as some kind of weirdo! However, each to their own.

So if people think it's fine that Tesco hand out free sugar would you be happy if they included free sample cigarettes or a small free bottle of vodka?

Sparklingbrook Fri 07-Feb-14 16:55:23

Ooh a free bottle of Vodka. I wouldn't want that at all. Oh no. grin

ouryve Fri 07-Feb-14 16:56:55

I'd not say no to free Vodka.

But then again, I despise Tesco for numerous other reasons, so don't order from them, online, anyhow.

Sparklingbrook Fri 07-Feb-14 16:58:41

I love Tesco for their Scan and Shop-no need to speak to a soul.

WanderingAway Fri 07-Feb-14 17:17:10

I wouldnt like free vodka or cigarettes but i wouldnt turn down a free chocolate cake and i have a slight intolerance to cocoa.

Animation Fri 07-Feb-14 17:20:09

confused cake wine grin

BuzzardBird Fri 07-Feb-14 17:28:01

Any chance you could e-mail Tesco and ask them to outrage me with a bottle of vodka? grin

TamerB Fri 07-Feb-14 17:36:22

I don't see the problem.
Standard gifts are chocolates, flowers or wine. I am happy with any.
You do not take cucumbers or carrots as gifts, not unless they are home grown.
Everything in moderation. If you are not going to eat them they are a nice thing to hand on or give for a raffle prize.
I eat a healthy, well balanced diet and it includes chocolate. Eating is supposed to be enjoyable and sociable.

LauraBridges Fri 07-Feb-14 18:20:41

Lots of us really enjoy good food - meat, fish, eggs, shell fish, veg. You don't have to drink alcohol and eat chocolate to lead a happy healthy life.

The Government is very concerned about the sugar which is pushed at people everywhere and all those sweets at the tills in WH Smith etc. I am not a lone voice by any means.

frugalfuzzpig Fri 07-Feb-14 18:22:52

I wouldn't mind a free cucumber.

Levantine Fri 07-Feb-14 18:27:29

Actually I do sort of agree with the OP. No one needs chocolate rice cakes. I eat cake, and other treats, but I think the food industry is happy to create an environment where everyone accepts that sugary food is a necessity every day.

BuzzardBird Fri 07-Feb-14 18:28:04

So, you agree? Not everyone has been 'brainwashed'. The generalisations are incorrect and condescending.

Pagwatch Fri 07-Feb-14 18:28:07

I enjoy really good food. My children eat really well. Lots of fish, meat, loads of vegetables, pulses, seeds, fruit etc etc.

We also have the occasional bun.

It's not a cult. It doesn't need prothelytizing.

ouryve Fri 07-Feb-14 18:29:06

I enjoy all those things, Laura, including the alcohol and chocolate. After a bloody hard day, I'd choose a glass of wine or a few pieces of chocolate over a plate of broccoli, anytime, and I love broccoli.

Levantine Fri 07-Feb-14 18:30:12

I don't think it's the crime of the century, but I think the OP has a point, yes

HoneyDragon Fri 07-Feb-14 18:36:07

I got a free mini bottle of Bailys when I bought some Pjamas at Christmas.

As a former alcoholic I feel terrible I have not risen to a hitherto unknown Mumsnet stereotype and that I failed to immediately start an outraged thread about it.

I'm sorry, I've let myself down, I've let Mumsnet down

<<sits on the "thinking" step for 35 minutes>>

Pagwatch Fri 07-Feb-14 18:51:02

Honey
When I was in Australia I tried a dessert I had never tried before

A double espresso with a shot of baileys and a scoop of ice cream.
It was just caffeine fat sugar and alcohol in a glass.

It was fab. I can't believe I had never had it before.

HoneyDragon Fri 07-Feb-14 18:55:22

Now THAT is a legal high grin

My idea of a well spent evening is an alcohol free margarita accompanied by a Cadburys Creme Egg using Cadburys Fingers as soldiers.

frugalfuzzpig Fri 07-Feb-14 19:05:54

I never got free biscuits from tesco at Xmas sad

Pagwatch Fri 07-Feb-14 19:08:53

Tesco once gave me several bottles of red wine and whiskey by mistake.
It was great.

TamerB Fri 07-Feb-14 19:10:09

You don't have to drink alcohol and eat chocolate to lead a happy healthy life.

But they do help smile

kelper Fri 07-Feb-14 19:14:41

I ordered my shopping from waitrose monty not for the free bottle of fizz oh no but misread the t&cs and thought you got a bottle every time you shopped in waitrose during January.
Was vvvvvvv disappointed when the second bottle didn't materialise but thank god I read the t&cs before I rang waitrose to complain....

ohmymimi Fri 07-Feb-14 19:17:43

I got a Ferrero Rocher choc. in it's own little box with a hair-piece I received today. It was a nice surprise, even though I don't like FR ( but I know someone who does). I know sugar is poison, but lots of Baby Boomers like me got addicted to it through the rosehip syrup and highly sweetened orange concentrate handed out at post-war baby clinics thats my excuse and I'm sticking to it

specialsubject Fri 07-Feb-14 19:20:26

can't see anyone saying the OP was a weirdo for a healthy diet.

a simple 'no thank you' usually suffices if offered food that you don't want.

WeAreSix Fri 07-Feb-14 19:28:23

If it's so important to you that the supermarkets are pushing sugar, why do you still shop there?

You are perpetuating the problem you see by keeping them in business.

Why not shop at a local, independent butchers, green grocers etc?

Beamur Fri 07-Feb-14 19:49:50

I reckon the OP has a point though. Sugar has become a stereotypic 'gift' and recent studies reported in the bbc this week did show staggering levels of obesity.
Don't get me wrong, I love a bit of chocolate and am guzzling a glass of wine at the moment, but I'm also at least a stone overweight...maybe we should love these foods a bit less!

morethanpotatoprints Fri 07-Feb-14 19:52:38

I didn't get past the exhorted? WTF does that mean, to us thicko's please? grin

Pagwatch Fri 07-Feb-14 20:00:51

The idea that people over use sugary laden treats is hardly a revelation though. Most people know that and those of us managing that through moderation and by modelling a healthy diet for our children are capeable of doing so without being patronised

bishbashboosh Fri 07-Feb-14 20:08:11

Yawn

threebats Fri 07-Feb-14 21:10:28

If it were cocaine or free vodka that Tesco were handing out to drug addicts and recovering alcoholics people would be up in arms.
Well, yeah cause cocaine is slightly illegal and vodka is far too expensive for Tesco to give out as a freebie - the good stuff anyway.

Anarchy rules! I have some giant chocolate buttons right here on the desk in front of me - Nope, I am not fat, do not have a sugar addiction, am not diabetic, am not an Indian man (why? Just why? What does it matter?)
But I am middle aged....
It is Friday.
Its pouring down.
Have not stopped moving and working and doing all week.

And I am frigging gutted I did not get any freebies from my last Tesco delivery - the absolute unfairness of it all. Bastards.
Giant chocolate button anyone..?

threebats Fri 07-Feb-14 21:13:00

Laura A little of what you fancy does you good my love - my Nan is 95 and every day she has (and has had for decades) a bar of chocolate....
I just took her a fish and chip supper - she's gearing up for the rugby tomorrow where she plans to have a glass of wine... Come on, have a chocolate button - live a little smile

jen2014 Fri 07-Feb-14 21:52:42

You say you weren't berating the delivery driver, but when he said he could never manage to give up sugar altogether, you translated that as him "cramming himself full of sugar". He said no such thing, you just assumed that because he said he was diabetic. As I'm sure you know, many people who are diagnosed diabetic don't actually eat an excessively high sugar diet, so this was an unfair generalisation.

Everything in moderation... including patronising lectures from one's moral high horse please...

TheDoctrineOfSnatch Fri 07-Feb-14 22:00:11

Great post, tethers grin

HipHop, itsu do chocolate mocha coated rice cakes. They are yum. Stupidly expensive, though.

LauraBridges Fri 07-Feb-14 22:10:54

Someone said it helps to lead a happy and healthy life if you have alcohol and chocolate. that is not actually medically correct. Alcohol is a known depressant and sugar just makes you hyper and then you crash. Those two products make for an unhappy, not a happy life. By all means poison yourself with them if you like but be in no doubt they lead to less not more happiness.

bruffin Fri 07-Feb-14 22:14:41

Sugar does not make you hyper , that is a myth. Sugar is not a poison either., where are you getting this nonsense

TamerB Fri 07-Feb-14 22:20:34

I said it- and believe it. However in moderation. I am perfectly healthy on it, being just about to run a half marathon aged 62 years. The last one I ran I discovered that I really did need sugar after 8 miles. I don't think that my one chocolate a day is going to make me hyper, let alone crash!!
I don't drink enough alcohol to find out if it is a depressant. Certainly a glass of wine and a chocolate at the end of the day cheer me up and I am perfectly healthy on it! If Tesco wanted to give me chocolate I would be perfectly happy to receive it, in preference to a cucumber!

Ragwort Sat 08-Feb-14 11:20:21

I know I will get berated for using just one example but I look at my father - aged 84 - who eats cakes, puddings, biscuits & cream every day (plus protein/veg/fruit etc), drinks at least 3-4 glasses of beer/wine a day and he is the healthiest most active person I know grin - still plays tennis regularly with people 50 years younger than himself.

TamerB Sat 08-Feb-14 14:28:26

My FIL lived to over 100 yrs- he was playing 18 holes of golf until he was nearly 90yrs. He watched his diet, and weight, but he ate everything in moderation, drank in moderation and didn't make a fuss about a present of chocolates, or get neurotic about sugar.

TamerB Sat 08-Feb-14 14:31:02

My mother is over 90yrs, and a healthy weight, she doesn't obsess about sugar etc, she merely eats a balanced, healthy diet which includes alcohol and chocolate.

Honeysweet Sat 08-Feb-14 14:34:48

It is the oldest healthy people that I take particular notice of. I dont think that it is purely luck that they have lived to a ripe age healthily.

CogitoErgoSometimes Sat 08-Feb-14 15:27:05

What a silly thread. There are no bad foods, only bad diets. If someone has a balanced and varied diet of fresh foods, lots of veggies and so on then a single chocolate covered rice cake or other sugary item is not going to do them any harm whatsoever.

Orthorexia nervosa however is quite a nasty condition and can easily be the end conclusion of getting too preoccupied with eliminating 'bad foods'.

mycatoscar Sat 08-Feb-14 16:02:57

We had these this week from tescos delivery. I was pleased and ate them before dd came home from school grin

I thought it was a better free gift that the fabric conditioner last month as I don't use that!

CoteDAzur Sat 08-Feb-14 16:09:10

"Sugar pushers" grin

The bastards. You tell'em, OP.

AmberLeaf Sat 08-Feb-14 16:17:44

Crap free gift. I'd have rather had a bottle of vodka.

LauraBridges Sat 08-Feb-14 18:09:39

Actually now you mention it I don't know where ours have gone - presumably one of the children ate them.

Anyway I am right. The country is becoming ill and fat because of all the sugar.

TamerB Sat 08-Feb-14 19:10:45

The country is become ill and fat because they eat too much sugar. They eat too much full stop. You merely have to eat less and exercise more. Labelling foods 'bad' is a huge mistake. You just put it as 'little' and a 'treat'. There are times you need sugar; after running 8 miles someone giving me a sweet enabled me to keep going.

Pagwatch Sat 08-Feb-14 19:17:46

The country is filled with ill and fat people because they eat too much and take no excercise.

Honeysweet Sat 08-Feb-14 19:32:58

op. Do you insist on eating in other very controlled ways as well?

TamerB Sat 08-Feb-14 19:50:26

What do you do if you go to someone's house and they have made a special pudding or a chocolate cake?

MmeMorrible Sat 08-Feb-14 19:52:57

God you sound like a 'holier than thou' nightmare OP. Whilst I know that sugar isn't a health food, I can't see that being so extreme about any food group is really wise.

jonicomelately Sat 08-Feb-14 20:10:00

This week, I've had the hardest week I think I've ever had. I've just eaten a Creme Egg. It helped.

Honeysweet Sat 08-Feb-14 20:17:42

I am guessing that there are areas of your life that you are unable to do in moderation.
Moderation is good in general.
I always think of a car. Yes you need the brakes. Very good.
And yes you need the accelerator.
But for a car to work well, you need the middle speed.

HazeltheMcWitch Sat 08-Feb-14 21:24:30

What do you do if you go to someone's house and they have made a special pudding or a chocolate cake?

Well, I for one, carve 'Bad Sugar Pusher' into their lawn with weedkiller, so as to forewarn the neighbours.

TiggyOBE Sat 08-Feb-14 21:37:43

Lots of us really enjoy good food - meat, fish, eggs, shell fish, veg

So you don't mind murdering poor defenceless little animals? Somewhere there is a sad Mummy prawn standing by a window hoping her 10,000 little children come back home soon. A hen is looking down at the egg she's just laid and planning out a life for it of hatching, teaching it to scratch for worms, chicken school, university etc. No may not eat sugar, but that mouth that doesn't like sweetness has blood dripping from it like a murderer's axe.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch Sat 08-Feb-14 21:52:29

Hazel and Tiggy grin

CoteDAzur Sat 08-Feb-14 22:29:08

Hazel & Tiggy grin

DH is looking at me while I'm laughing my head off.

TamerB Sat 08-Feb-14 22:31:02

I expect that cabbages are not too keen at brutally being cut off from their roots either.

TamerB Sat 08-Feb-14 22:39:29

I would still like to know how you deal with going to someone's house and they have baked a cake especially or made a pudding, or a work colleague brings in a cake on their birthday etc.

LauraBridges Sun 09-Feb-14 09:42:30

I just say no as I would if they offered me coffee, cocaine, alcohol or cigarettes. I am by no means the only person in England who doesn't eat cakes and chocolate etc. In fact my mother never did either.

Interestingly in Northern Spain for work last year I was in an office at about 3pm and someone had a birthday. Everyone around jogged in the streets and I saw no one overweight. Guess what they brought in? Cold omlet with get in it. Really healthy. Good for them.

Anyway I am more fascinated by the just about universal pro sugar views on the thread than Tesco's poisoned chalice. I will leave everyone to their cakes.

EauRouge Sun 09-Feb-14 09:56:12

You don't need sugar, OP. You're sweet enough grin

NatashaGurdin Sun 09-Feb-14 10:38:31

morethanpotatoprints

Exorted is defined as 'strongly encourage or urge (someone) to do something'

Personally I would add in an annoying way until it has the opposite effect but that's just me.

CoteDAzur Sun 09-Feb-14 10:49:20

I just cried while reading Tiggy's post to DH grin

Pagwatch Sun 09-Feb-14 11:04:44

Bwahhahahaha at no fat people in northern Spain

In fairness though Spanish cakes and puddings are vile.

TamerB Sun 09-Feb-14 11:09:54

I wouldn't be so rude. I have been to many a house where I know the cake is baked especially, e.g. a very elderly friend of my mother's bakes shortbread. It would be insensitive to turn it down. I just eat less the next day. Coffee, alcohol etc are very different because they can be used next week, next month, next year.

GlitzAndGiggles Sun 09-Feb-14 11:26:37

A lot of free gifts are trials of products being brought out. Sorry but I laughed at your op it sounds a bit bonkers

Fucking hell, anyone would think Tescos had started giving free rocks of crack with every home delivery!

Believe me the road to happiness is paved with Galaxy chocolate in my world.

I'm

Honeysweet Sun 09-Feb-14 11:48:29

Right. I am going to get serious here.
I had a look at orthorexia nervosa, what Cogito mentioned upthread.
And by what you have said and not said since, you may have it. And your mum. You probably know this already.
If you are unable to get help or stop yourself, can I ask that you try your hardest to help stop the children having it?
Remember the car. There is more control with the car if you can make it work at all speeds, which includes the moderate speed, then merely stop and fast.

hickorychicken Sun 09-Feb-14 11:56:54

Amazing thread grin
If you are so outraged OP over this, your life must be exhausting. To avoid sugar pushers altogether maybe its time to go completely self sufficient?

This thread has cheered me right up.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch Sun 09-Feb-14 12:38:47

Laura, one of your DC ate it?

shock

Have you disinherited them yet?

TamerB Sun 09-Feb-14 17:35:25

It is good that at least the DC is more relaxed about it!
I went out for a birthday lunch today. It was a sociable meal. I had a pudding, it is very rare for me to have a pudding so it really doesn't matter. I shall eat less tonight and tomorrow and I shall go for one of my longer runs tomorrow.
Sometimes you have to put other people in front of an inflexible attitude. I belong to a book group, the organiser brings along cakes. I don't have any, I have established that I don't and it really doesn't matter because at least 7 people have some.
I go to my mother's friend, expecting a cup of tea and find that a 90yr old has gone to a lot of trouble and has a tea trolley loaded with scones and cake. I have some and compensate later. No one else is going to eat it, I can't possibly refuse.
If it is someone's birthday there is usually someone who says 'just a small piece' and so I can say 'I will have half a piece with you'. It is very rude to refuse outright, especially with a holier than thou attitude!
No diet should be so rigid that you have to be uncaring and rude ( unless you have allergies, or are a vegan and then you should make it plain in advance if possible and if they have made gluten free, dairy free etc you need to accept).
Treating sugar like a poison is wrong- it is fine in moderation.

hickorychicken Sun 09-Feb-14 20:14:42

Tbf, nothing wrong with avoiding sugar, just dont be a twat about it.

RufusTheReindeer Sun 09-Feb-14 22:32:36

I may move from sainsburys to tescos

Or I might send them a very heated email asking why I don't get any freebies

GW297 Sun 09-Feb-14 22:47:41

Didn't the guy in that Horizon programme who gave up sugar run the risk of developing diabetes?

CogitoErgoSometimes Mon 10-Feb-14 08:37:20

Type II Diabetes is not caused by sugar intake in isolation. Excess body weight, low activity levels & genetic predisposition are all contributory factors. Dietary choices that put a big strain on the pancreas to produce excessive amounts of insulin are also a factor. This would certainly include a heavy intake of sugary foods but also eating very large meals, irregular eating habits (skipping meals and bingeing), excessive total calorie intake (all types of food), excessive alcohol consumption or consuming large amounts of heavily processed foods.

If you're unlucky enough to be diagnosed with Type II Diabetes it can often be managed by paying attention to all of the above. You will not be cured by saying no thanks to a solitary chocolate covered rice-cake

SecretJewel Wed 12-Feb-14 12:27:03

Hang fire.

I have nearly all my shopping delivered from Tesco.

How come I have NEVER had a free gift?!?? Sugar related or otherwise?

Not happy now.

Gladvent Wed 12-Feb-14 15:01:06

I have had 2 Waitrose deliveries lately and no champagne. What am I doing wrong?!

fuzzpig Tue 18-Feb-14 23:36:14

The manipulative bastards gave us a free sachet of porridge this week. PORRIDGE! <falls over in horror>

thinking101 Wed 19-Feb-14 14:49:38

Well I'm really affronted by all of this, never had anything free ever ever ever.

I mean if they looked at our regula shop it's plain to see we living off magic chickens and lentils with a few cabbage leaves.

<clasp hands to pray to tesco god> I want something free! the sugary the better.

Zucker Wed 19-Feb-14 23:59:15

I'm literally sobbing at the fact that bloody Tesco have never given me a free gift either. I'm consoling myself with some M&S Percy Piggins. Take that TESCO!

thinking101 Thu 20-Feb-14 16:13:18

<pinches Percy pigs> v's tomb tescos too, and I bought the delivery saver!

WellHelloThere Thu 20-Feb-14 16:26:55

LauraBridges are you for real? You sound really highly strung at best and slightly derogatory towards the chap at worst, perhaps just be grateful you got a freebie , you sound very defensive about your diet and frankly pretty up yourself - have a cake and chill out with a glass of vino grin

thinking101 Thu 20-Feb-14 16:39:54

Like I said up thread, the best thing she could have as a freebie is some rude vegetables. grin

She might relax a bit.

slug Thu 20-Feb-14 16:55:25

OP, are you my sister?

She believes every crackpot, science free theory about food out there. The day she lectured me on the difficulty of finding non-GM modified filo pastry was the day I decided never to indulge her eating disorder by proxy.

nkf Sat 22-Feb-14 19:49:30

People only overeat on certain kinds of foods. The ones that are full of fat and sugar and food manufacturers are keen to make them because people will buy loads of them. Sugar is a cheap ingredient that makes food delicious. And yes, there is sugar in fruit and vegetables, but the fibre content makes it work differently in your body. It's not the same as chocolate or Pepsi. I think the OP's tone was plain silly and the drug references aren't helping anyone. But it is worth pointing out that special food offers from supermarkets are always on sugary, fatty food, not on veg.

maggiemight Wed 26-Feb-14 19:47:43

I must be on some parallel universe - I hear constant information about the danger of eating too much sugar, articles in newpapers, articles on radio 4 just do a quick search on Google,

Just because you don't want to be guilted about eating junk which is bad for you don't blame the messenger. The OP has a good point.

CaterpillarCara Sat 01-Mar-14 21:43:39

I over-ate satstumas. The palms of my hands and the soles of my feet turned orange. OP is safe from that though, as they have sugar.

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