"Poppygeddon - or why I learned to shut up and love the Armed Forces". Parte The Seconde

(31 Posts)
flatpackhamster Sat 02-Nov-13 22:39:01

A follow-on from here.

In this thread we hope to learn:

How Marxism will feed the world and deliver a lovely-wovely pleasure-dome of joy this time, for sure, definitely, no problem;

How WW1 was actually the same as WW2 if you don't read any history;

Why respect for the sacrifice made by members of the armed forces is basically the same as setting fire to people in Afghanistan;

How it's possible to reach voting age without knowing ANYTHING AT ALL ABOUT THE WORLD.

grin

Will this reach a 1000 posts?

Probably wink

TwitTwooShoe Sat 02-Nov-13 22:47:44

grin

TwitTwooShoe Sat 02-Nov-13 22:48:23

I bet you were dying to do this. Tapping impatiently on your keyboard, hoping that the thread would reach the 1000 mark...

See you all tomorrow, I'm off to bed, night all!

gringringrin!

TwitTwooShoe Sun 03-Nov-13 10:06:18

Morning!

clam Sun 03-Nov-13 10:33:44

grin
Think you've covered it all very succinctly, there flatpack. And to think I wasted much of yesterday keeping up!

cocolepew Sun 03-Nov-13 10:36:16

Oh god I gave up on the other one. Seems I missed a lot ! grin

TwitTwooShoe Sun 03-Nov-13 10:58:44

Your summing up is perfect.

Comfysoft Sun 03-Nov-13 11:00:36

grin I avoided the last thread but put like that OP this one sounds a whole lot more interesting!

ThursdayLast Sun 03-Nov-13 11:14:26

Aha! Found you!
Marking my place so I don't miss any more of geckos incredible teachings...
Also I went to bed pretty early last night...how/when did it get pro-UKIP?!

TwitTwooShoe Sun 03-Nov-13 11:24:56

I don't get the whole UKIP thing confused At the end it seemed like if you didn't think Marxism could realistically work, then you'd be a UKIP supporter. I'm neither hmm

chibi Sun 03-Nov-13 11:29:51

it sounds as though there is no respectable reason to not wear a poppy- it that correct?

flatpackhamster Sun 03-Nov-13 11:31:10

TwitTwooShoe

I don't get the whole UKIP thing confused At the end it seemed like if you didn't think Marxism could realistically work, then you'd be a UKIP supporter. I'm neither.

Claig has very strong views on the subject.

I bet you were dying to do this. Tapping impatiently on your keyboard, hoping that the thread would reach the 1000 mark...

Heehee. No, it was just chance. I had been watching a film on the tellybox and gave up because I was too tired, came upstairs to switch the computer off, added a post to the last thread and got told it was locked to further posts. Seemed a shame not to open another one.

TwitTwooShoe Sun 03-Nov-13 11:35:43

chibi I think it's more that there's no respectable reason to force not/wearing it on anyone, but if you want to say why, don't be offensive about it. Or something.

chibi Sun 03-Nov-13 11:51:22

i just read the OP and was unsure- it seemed that only marxists who know nothing about history or the world could possibly choose to not wear a poppy.

why no assume that people who hold different opinions to you do so in good faith, and not because they are too stupid to grasp how wrong they are?

ThursdayLast Sun 03-Nov-13 12:00:33

Oh because the person who started the thread from which this one stems WAS too stupid to understand.
There's a link in this OP. It's an amusing read

MrsGSR Sun 03-Nov-13 14:35:59

Can I add that I hope to learn why it's ok to go to war of there is a possibility that maybe one day in the future Britain might be invaded (WW2) but when British territory is actually invaded it is wrong to go to war (Faulklands).

Although according to a different argument of Geckos we should have just given up, say, Wales to Hitler and told anyone who wants to be British to just move to England or Scotland.

'Why respect for the sacrifice made by members of the armed forces is basically the same as setting fire to people in Afghanistan.'

OP (or anyone else???) I have no clue as to the thread referred to in OP's post at head of thread - but I do know that I find the above immensly offensive. Can someone please tell me if maybe it was meant to be 'sardonic' or a 'joke'?

The British Legion spends over £200,000 EVERY DAY supporting Ex Servicemen and Women on everything from helping soldiers get the correct compensation; sending families on breaks they could otherwise not afford; to having 6 homes across the Country - 2 of which are wholly directed to meeting the needs of those with dementia; to a free 'handyman' service for both veterans and veterans spouses.

They actively challenge government policy when 'wrongs' need to be corrected vis what support our military subseqently might initially be 'provided with'.

I hope someone DOES answer my Q. at top? But if honest, no matter how it was 'meant', it IS offensive to the core. Poppy sales directly fund the wellbeing of the very soldiers who fought in WW2, and whose actions have gifted you/me/all of use to exercise the free speech (& much more besides) that we, often very 'unthinkingly' both have and enjoy.

You do NOT need to be a 'war-mongering supporter' to still want to support the life-long care of those who went to war on our behalf. And if you don't want to wear a Poppy that's cool... but inferring that those who do respect the sacrifices (IE made by the very people that gifted you the freedom to write the above) our forefathers made is very definitely NOT remotely ok. It is - even if it was written in a 'sardonic/funny' way that has escaped me??? - pretty vile TBH.

ThursdayLast Sun 03-Nov-13 16:14:15

Have a look at the link on the OP.

I can assure you, it's a joke it this context, and a reaction to another poster who believes it.

ThursdayLast Sun 03-Nov-13 16:14:47

Seriously. Look at the link.

IamInvisible Sun 03-Nov-13 16:18:28

Flatpackhamster you like to live on the edge!

I gave up with that other thread, it hurt my head from banging it against the wall so often and I feared my iPad would get thrown out of the window!

flatpackhamster Sun 03-Nov-13 16:22:31

AmGrowingAnAwesomeTree*

OP (or anyone else???) I have no clue as to the thread referred to in OP's post at head of thread

Yeah, that's probably not helping.

- but I do know that I find the above immensly offensive.

Here's some news for you. You don't have the right NOT to be offended by something.

Can someone please tell me if maybe it was meant to be 'sardonic' or a 'joke'?

Read the 1,000 post thread linked to in my first post, and get over yourself.

IamInvisible Sun 03-Nov-13 16:27:25

AmGrowingAnAwesomeTree the RBL don't just help soldiers, they help members of all 3 of our Armed Forces. I'm sorry but it pisses me off that everyone classes the military as 'soldiers'. My husband is in the Armed Forces, he is not a soldier, he is an airman!

TwitTwooShoe Sun 03-Nov-13 17:06:50

AGAAT- look at the thread. It was a sarcastic joke against a poster who holds those views, and most people here support your argument.

It's not a true reflection from this OP, refer as advised from others to geckos48 thread.

I'm currently watching gladiator, so Roman,wink

howrudeforme Sun 03-Nov-13 18:45:17

I don't wear one. But I would contribute for the fact that I'd either not be alive or not have a english father or not have an indian mother. Ie ie wouldn't be here v(UK) in my current form if it were not for the second world war.

And lets face it mnetters LOVE a bit of multiculturalism.

Thumbwitch Mon 04-Nov-13 05:29:05

Just been led here from elsewhere - and will comment briefly that AmGrowing is unlikely to be able to read through the entire previous thread at the moment owing to energy issues; but her comment may be taken to be against the people who the OP is commenting upon, rather than the OP herself. Please don't attack her as she's really not in a good place at the mo. (Shouldn't really stick my oar in here at all, sorry.)

TwitTwooShoe Mon 04-Nov-13 15:34:13

Thanks Thumbwitch (I feel very blush ) I really should think a bit before typing tbh.

Thumbwitch Tue 05-Nov-13 10:17:50

Oh please don't feel blush - you weren't to know, no one on this thread was. smile

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