Did Harry say this deliberately after his dad suggested Camilla was his parent?

(91 Posts)
bkgirl Fri 10-May-13 12:45:56

I smiled when I read about Harry saying : "My mother, who believed passionately in this cause, would be proud of my association with Halo" after reading Charles said 'Harry shoved off knowing his ancient parents were here'

It reminded me Harry knows who his mother is despite the relentless spin by Charles and his buddies.


Really? You think there is spin from Charles to get Harry to forget that he has a mother and put Camilla in her place?

BackforGood Fri 10-May-13 12:56:47

What Flibberty said.
You are reading too much in to Prince Charles saying something about "ancient paretns" IMO.

reelingintheyears Fri 10-May-13 13:00:18

Charles having a senior moment.

I wish they'd all just shove off.

ClartyCarol Fri 10-May-13 13:01:47

Why are there so many threads about the royal family confused.

tethersend Fri 10-May-13 13:02:47

Mum fine, just don't mention his dad.

<looks around furtively>

Camilla is his step-mother. She parents him as well. I don't think the two remarks are connected at all.

DowntonTrout Fri 10-May-13 13:03:18

It would be argued by some that Charles may not be Harry's parent either.

However, every one knows that Diana was his mother. And anyway, step parents are parents too aren't they?

Why are you starting another thread about Charles/Camilla/spin? Isn't your other one going the way you want?

AuntieStella Fri 10-May-13 13:04:18

Doubt it. And of course he'll know both who his mother was and who his stepmother is. I don't think you can read too much into how different members of stepfamilies describe themselves at quite different occasions.

Prince Harry's speech was for a pre-arranged set piece occasion and would have been written some time ago. And is it conceivable he would visit Halo Trust without mentioning his mother?

PoW's remarks seem more off the cuff.

JaquelineHyde Fri 10-May-13 13:06:24

Oh for God's sake, what a ridiculous thing to assume from 2 innocent unrelated comments.

Abra1d Fri 10-May-13 13:07:08

Oh no, here we go with the fruitshoot theory about H's father again.

Look at the shape of his nose and eyes. How close-set they are, almost hawkish. Now look at the same features in Prince Charles and Prince Philip. See the similarity?

Now listen to Harry's voice--deep, almost purring. Listen to Prince Charles. You will hear similarities.

Look at Harry's reddish hair. Look at the hair of his Spencer aunts. It's the same.

{Bangs head on desk}

BoreOfWhabylon Fri 10-May-13 13:19:24
bkgirl Fri 10-May-13 13:20:30

Goodness, making an observation does bring out the condescension doesn't it?

It puts me off mumsnet. sad

tethersend Fri 10-May-13 13:20:54

Is that kid rolling a fag?

I have thought for ages that Harry has a look of Prince Phillip around his eyes. there is red hair on his mother's side - one of her sisters.

My sister and I have red hair despite neither of our parents having it, yet one of my dads sisters did so the gene was there.

I have red hair yet neither of my sons do. Mil has red hair but none of her children do. Another of my non-redhaired siblings produced a red haired child. Red hair is a genetic red herring imo and using Harrys slightly reddish hair to as evidence of Charles not being his father, is absolute rubbish.

Alibabaandthe40nappies Fri 10-May-13 13:21:25

OP you are delusional.

Hullygully Fri 10-May-13 13:22:27


Bramshott Fri 10-May-13 13:23:41

With best will in the world OP, you're a bit obsessed by this wink! They're just people!

reelingintheyears Fri 10-May-13 13:23:58
Hullygully Fri 10-May-13 13:24:09

What though? What is everyone talkig about?

reelingintheyears Fri 10-May-13 13:25:21

Why these people still make the news is beyond me.

Hullygully Fri 10-May-13 13:26:50

Oh I've read it now.

If I was Harry, or Wills, I'd be pissed off at Charles' comment. It's like Di is being airbrushed out altogether, as if murdering her wasn't enough.

BalloonSlayer Fri 10-May-13 13:27:14

Have a look at this picture and tell me again Harry is not Charles' son.

All you have to do it take the hair off . . .

noddyholder Fri 10-May-13 13:27:50

I think Harry looks very like Charles and Edward

tethersend Fri 10-May-13 13:28:37


reelingintheyears Fri 10-May-13 13:29:21

Ah,Hully,i agree with you for once.wink

I was no fan of Di but she was their Mum and it would piss me off too if it were me or mine.

Hullygully Fri 10-May-13 13:30:40

Don't you agree with me usually, reeling?

How very passing strange

reelingintheyears Fri 10-May-13 13:31:48

The world's an odd place these days.

DowntonTrout Fri 10-May-13 13:32:30

No,no I'm not suggesting Harry is not Charles's son. I'm saying that (the afford mention fruit loops) would argue that.

Just as daft an idea as the situation that the OP suggests is the case here.

Anyway, I quite like Camilla, I think she's handled herself very well since they married.

5318008 Fri 10-May-13 13:35:37

Lol at afford mention, fabulous

Hullygully Fri 10-May-13 13:37:47

Charles and Camilla are utterly repulsive.

TheSecondComing Fri 10-May-13 13:38:48

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tethersend Fri 10-May-13 13:40:41

Ooh, who's the daddy?

Of Cheryl's baby. Obviously.


Hullygully Fri 10-May-13 13:42:31

I'm quite interested in Paris moving in with Debbie.

reelingintheyears Fri 10-May-13 13:43:31

FFS Hully,stop it.

Two 'agrees' in one day is getting silly.grin

TSC I love Cheryl Cole.

I will go and have a look when i get back,got to take the car for it's MOT in a minute. sad

TheSecondComing Fri 10-May-13 13:47:59

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DowntonTrout Fri 10-May-13 13:48:23

Afford mention?..

Afore mentioned. WHY don't I preview?

Cheryl is pregnant? The last picture of her I saw she looked terribly thin and the magazine was leading with "the secrets of Cheryl's weight loss" or some such nonsense. It was on the supermarket shelf- I didn't buy it!

Bramshott Fri 10-May-13 13:51:09

FWIW, my father is dead and my mother has been remarried for many years. I refer to my mum and stepdad as "my parents" although I don't call my stepfather "dad".

Chubfuddler Fri 10-May-13 13:51:14

Stop being naughty hully.

Op perhaps you should take a subscription to majesty magazine and vent your unhealthy interest in the royal family that way.

miemohrs Fri 10-May-13 14:00:35

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Restorer Fri 10-May-13 14:02:48

I don't think it's unusual to children with a long-time deceased parent and a new step-parent to refer to the new couple as "my parents". It's just shorthand, it doesn't mean anyone's been replaced or forgotten, it just refers to the people who are in the role of parent atm. It would be unusual for Charles to say "his ancient father and step-mother IMO"

EldritchCleavage Fri 10-May-13 14:03:15

Hully is always naughty. It's, like, her raison d'etre, innit?

Hullygully Fri 10-May-13 14:10:34

I am bemused by why me proffering my honest opinions is called "naughty"

tethersend Fri 10-May-13 14:14:41

It's you and your cheeky ways, Hully.

You could call me a cunt and I'd probably just ruffle your hair.


Chubfuddler Fri 10-May-13 14:15:14

Are you being disingenuous hully? You aren't with the frothing berserkers about saint Diana are you? Not really.

Charles and Camilla are utterly repulsive.

I agree, remember that recording where he said he wanted to be her tampon so he could be in her snatch all day?

TheSecondComing Fri 10-May-13 14:24:38

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BOF Fri 10-May-13 14:27:53

I've always found this picture of Harry most instructive.

Hullygully Fri 10-May-13 14:34:35

Ahh, so dear Terry fathered him.

Hullygully Fri 10-May-13 14:35:18

But was her real father murdered and cheated on by you and your dp TSC?

BOF Fri 10-May-13 14:40:03

I know I shouldn't have clicked on the Mail link, but who are all those women in the sidebar of shame? I had only heard of two of them.

miemohrs Fri 10-May-13 14:40:24

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givemeaclue Fri 10-May-13 14:43:43

Not again op....is there nowt on tv?

WandaDoff Fri 10-May-13 14:47:44

In the mail article you have linked to, there are pictures right next to each other, in which they look very alike. The eyes & the smile look almost identical.

Hullygully Fri 10-May-13 14:55:32

I know Boffy, I only knew Cheryl and Paris. It is weirdly fascinating.

TheSecondComing Fri 10-May-13 15:11:09

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Hullygully Fri 10-May-13 15:16:37

You should ask The Firm for some tips.

bkgirl Fri 10-May-13 16:48:12

Bramshot, I am not obsessed, hysterical or anything else. You don't know me. I have every right to raise a few points without pejorative personal attacks. Why do so many forums sink to this level?

I am not questioning Harry's parentage, merely pointing out his referral to his real mother the day after Charles made this - slip of the tongue, made me smile. I am glad both he and William retain their respect and love for their mother and do not want her airbrushed from history. Whatever his relationship is with Camilla, I have never heard him in public call HER mum. Indeed, I also would guess he would be far more informed about all of what happened than the public or indeed many at the palace.

It is nice to hear him refer to his mum and it touched me to think he knows she is proud of him.

givemeaclue Fri 10-May-13 16:58:52

I think you are seeing an issue where there isn't one.

Chubfuddler Fri 10-May-13 17:09:30

She's not bring airbrushed from history. She's dead.

Chubfuddler Fri 10-May-13 17:09:55

In fact the royal family website refers to her quite prominently.

HazeltheMcWitch Fri 10-May-13 17:16:28

Not only has Paris moved in with Debbie, but Macauley Culkin is allegedly staying with Pete Doherty. Yikes.

Chubfuddler Fri 10-May-13 17:19:45

I thought macuslly culling was dead. Is he not?

HazeltheMcWitch Fri 10-May-13 17:20:50

Not, Chub. But he's edging ever closer if he is living with Doherty.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch Fri 10-May-13 17:26:27

The ancient Ps or aged Ps is a phrase that I can absolutely see Charles saying. It's very old fashioned. I think he was using the phrase rather than making some kind of statement about Camilla...

Alibabaandthe40nappies Fri 10-May-13 19:26:24

OP you really are reading too much into this.

William and Harry constantly refer to Diana in the course of their charity work, it is in no way unusual that he made those comments and you can read nothing into their timing at all unless you have an agenda

The aged Ps is from Dickens isn't it? Great Expectations???

Also I think if you want to see William and Harry's real attitude to CAmilla you need only to look at two things. Firstly their widely reported excitement and enthusiasm at their father's wedding to her and secondly consider who William and Kate picked for the role of small flower girl - Camilla's grandaughter. It clearly suits some people's world view to pretend they secretly loathe her but it's just nonsense.

bkgirl Fri 10-May-13 21:24:35

If you are implying that I think they loathe her, you are wrong. I really hope they are not weighed down by hatred and can see the good in people. I am just glad their mum remains....well, their mum.

tribpot Fri 10-May-13 21:35:41

I refer to my mum and step-dad as 'my parents', it's just shorthand. I have even done it to my dad although not intentionally - arf.

exoticfruits Fri 10-May-13 21:55:17

I think it is perfectly normal-DS would say parents and not mother and step father-it is what people do.
Harry looks very like Charles around the eyes.

morethanpotatoprints Fri 10-May-13 22:01:36

I don't think he looks anything like Prince Charles.
He's the dead spit of Neil Armstrong.

morethanpotatoprints Fri 10-May-13 22:02:09

I mean Lance Armstrong grin secret love child eh?

Viviennemary Fri 10-May-13 22:04:07

I think the royals would rather people forgot there ever was a person called Diana who was married to Charles and the Mother of Harry and William.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch Fri 10-May-13 23:20:05

I really don't think that's true.. Kate wears her engagement ring, FFS.

bkgirl Fri 10-May-13 23:29:31

Yes but Kate is married to William who I remember saying proudly years ago that his mother was a lady. Again, I think it's lovely she used his mums ring. It says a lot about both Wills and Kate. smile

I agree Viv, there must be many that would like to lessen her vital role.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch Sat 11-May-13 07:50:32

Diana has been dead more than 15 years. The Queen Mother has been dead less than 5. The royals don't talk about the Queen Mother much either. Care to read something into that?

lljkk Sat 11-May-13 08:18:56

Overthinking it, no one will ever forget who Harry's mom was.

I refer to my dad & stepmum as "my parents" or "my folks". I'm not even very fond of stepmum! But she is a sort of parent to me.

(Reminds me American Mother's Day is tomorrow)

AViewFromTheFridge Sat 11-May-13 08:32:55

Hazel, I read that as "living with Dorothy" and thought it was some sort of comment on his sexuality!

limitedperiodonly Sat 11-May-13 08:58:47

If Diana had lived I wonder whether her sons would find her a little wearing from time to time.

I imagine she'd need plenty of assurance along the lines of: 'No, Mummy, you're way foxier than Kate's Ma.'

Chubfuddler Sat 11-May-13 09:09:28

If she had lived I would hope at 50 she would have been a bit more emotionally intelligent than she had been in her 30s. She was very young when she died.

specialsubject Sat 11-May-13 22:50:38

Harry does look amusingly like one of Di's many lovers but the dates don't add up. He's Charles'.

Charles probably couldn't be bothered to say 'his ancient father and stepmum'.

sorry, OP - some of us thought Di a waste of space and quite like Camilla. Anyway, Di forgot the seatbelt and is dead, and Charles has made a happy second marriage.

Springdiva Tue 14-May-13 19:11:47

Harry is getting more like his Dad - is anyone really suggesting that no one absolutely no one in all his years at school and army etc didn't take a hair from his head or a cup from his table and have his dna tested to see if it's the same as his dad's or brothers, I mean this would have been the newspaper scoop of the century. He's probably had more tests done than anyone.

Snazzynewyear Wed 15-May-13 01:11:00

Harry looks just like Charles in the face - I don't understand why some people don't seem to see this! He looks more like him than William, who got more of Diana in his features. The Spencer red hair gets people speculating but he is the spit of Charles otherwise.

bkgirl Wed 15-May-13 01:40:50

I agree Snazzy and I am sure if there was any doubt it was checked! Thank goodness the brothers are close.

Mehrida Wed 15-May-13 09:30:38

So from skimming this thread I summarise that Diana's sister and Lance Armstrong are Harry's parents.

And that he got Cheryl Cole pregnant.

Did I miss anything?

HazeltheMcWitch Wed 15-May-13 19:15:04

Arf at all the suggestions for Harry's father.

Look here at pic 4 (**DM WARNING**) to see a pic of a ginger Charles. Really no doubt.

LadyIsabellaWrotham Wed 15-May-13 19:20:55

ROFL at Neil Armstrong as Harry's dad. It's every conspiracy theory ever wrapped up with a lovely bow.

clam Thu 16-May-13 18:44:50

I have never, ever been able to see the slightest resemblance between Harry and Charles. Nothing. That doesn't mean they're not related though.
Mind you, I fail to see what a resemblance between Harry and his cousin (George McCorquodale) has to do with anything? They're related through his mother, so his father would be irrelevant.

And whilst we shouldn't speak ill of the date and I respect William and Harry's clear affection for their late mother, I think she was a complete fruit-cake and all those who were weeping and wailing as if they'd lost a close relative, had no idea of who she was or what she was really like.

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