I won't let my children play with friends I deem beneath them

(130 Posts)
Millais Thu 21-Feb-13 00:20:36

I know it is in the DM - can't go to bed yet and needing to stay awake.

Surely this must be a joke- how can she or her children face their classmates on Monday?

LineRunner Thu 21-Feb-13 00:32:37

Oh it's her. She'll appear in and on anything, saying anything.

DomesticCEO Thu 21-Feb-13 00:40:51

I somehow guessed it was Rent A Gob. Vile woman.

LineRunner Thu 21-Feb-13 00:42:48

Can I be the first to say, Those poor children <tilts head>

LineRunner Thu 21-Feb-13 00:43:51

Could we have a whole thead not actually mentioning her name. That would be cool.

BOF Thu 21-Feb-13 00:44:13

Massive self-publicist. Get Kitten Blocker.

LackaDAISYcal Thu 21-Feb-13 00:45:58

hahahaha, she would approve of my daughter who is on her third home jotter since Autumn half term! Little does she know it is full of lovehearts, stars and love notes to her teacher and all her friends grin

she is a twat. fact.

AlbertaCampion Thu 21-Feb-13 00:47:28

I always feel with her (as with some other Mail writers) that when the bank account gets pinched, she desperately casts around for something so obnoxious, it's a sure bet Mail commission. You have to admit, she's terrific at trolling.

LineRunner Thu 21-Feb-13 00:48:30

We could have all the fun of taking the piss, and give her none of the publicity she craves like a great white shark craves easy meat.

LackaDAISYcal Thu 21-Feb-13 00:49:54

'The children who come to school on time and wear proper school uniforms are the nicest and the most fun,' she told me. 'If children don't put any effort in, I don't want to play with them.'

I was initially outraged that she has drummed this attitude into her children, but actually it's really quite sad. Poor kids sad

LineRunner Thu 21-Feb-13 00:51:41

and <head tilt>

deleted203 Thu 21-Feb-13 00:55:52

This is my favourite bit...

"When one of my girls came home last week and announced that a classmate had filled up her star sheet for good behaviour, I made a mental note of the child's name for future reference.

She is clearly the type of child who is eager to learn, ambitious and wants to work hard in order to be rewarded with success. And that is the type of child I want my daughters to play with and to learn from."

Don't you have a sneaking hope that this child is the class 'challenge' who is struggling with behavioural issues and is on a star chart for good behaviour to encourage it?

Or is it just me who's a bitch?

Bessie123 Thu 21-Feb-13 01:09:20

God, her poor kids.

TheDoctrineOfSciAndNatureClub Thu 21-Feb-13 01:24:31

<snort> at great white shark

Darkesteyes Thu 21-Feb-13 01:24:54

I phoned in to a radio show she was on last year. it was a discussion about workfare. You probably wont be surprised to learn that she supports it.

Darkesteyes Thu 21-Feb-13 01:25:58

greatwhiteshark i hope so too <sniggers>

TheSecondComing Thu 21-Feb-13 01:27:31

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Greensleeves Thu 21-Feb-13 01:29:44

Fuck me I applied for a job at their primary school shock

Thank god I was too skanky to get an interview

Mosman Thu 21-Feb-13 01:34:16

Those kids will grow up hating her.

CheerfulYank Thu 21-Feb-13 01:38:12

Ugh! Vile.

znaika Thu 21-Feb-13 01:46:10

All I could think was what a curious hairstyle for 2013, and get those bloody shoes off the sofa

Bessie123 Thu 21-Feb-13 01:49:41

And stop dressing your daughters in matchy matchy outfits

ripsishere Thu 21-Feb-13 01:52:08
ripsishere Thu 21-Feb-13 01:52:35

Fuck it. You get the drift.

VestaCurry Thu 21-Feb-13 03:05:18

Why doesn't she pay for private prep then? Ah could it be because for all her supposed success she can't afford it? Her children will be mainly influenced by her so God help them. Grim woman.

Eskino Thu 21-Feb-13 03:38:44

I'm shock that someone actually had sex with her.

3 times!

Shanghaidiva Thu 21-Feb-13 03:50:54

I have similar rules - never let my kids play with children whose mothers romp naked in fields with married men wink

RhodaMorgenstern Thu 21-Feb-13 04:25:27

If her children are so impeccably brought up why are they wearing shoes on the sofa? Makes me feel anxious just looking at those photos.

SissySpacekAteMyHamster Thu 21-Feb-13 04:34:50

Get this thread deleted... don't give the stupid bint any more attention...

Those poor, poor children....

Chubfuddler Thu 21-Feb-13 04:46:04

children catch cleverness from their friends

I was always under the impression children caught cleverness from their mothers. Her bunch are in no danger there.

I think my children would make her head explode - private school (tick), single mother (BAD), forthcoming birthday party at skanky local soft play (BAD BAD).

Yamyoid Thu 21-Feb-13 05:02:26

Is there an elite, non-skanky soft play? Or does she just mean fun is banned. And 'catching clever' sounds like something only someone really stupid would say.
Urgh, horrid woman.
And put some leggings on your daughters, they look cold.

Tailtwister Thu 21-Feb-13 07:37:15

I'm just amazed she'll use her children as fodder for an article in a skanky newspaper. I wonder what the reaction at the school gates will be this morning.

catsmother Thu 21-Feb-13 07:41:30

My daughter has a 'classical' name. She loves school and regularly appoints herself extra 'projects' at home relating to topics she's covered at school - for the fun of it. Is a complete bookworm with reading age several years ahead of her actual age. Nothing but good school reports. Never late for school. Does 'suitable' activities such as Brownies and swimming lessons.

In short, exactly the 'right' sort of playmate hmm

But if she was at the same school as this revolting snob's kids and had caught her eye I'd be avoiding her like the plague. It's not her kids' fault but I'd be more worried about some of the mother's foul attitude, snobbery, intolerance, judementalness (is that a word ?), barking mad bintness, rubbing off on them and endaring my daughter as a result !

She really is absolutely revolting. And I bloody well hope she didn't get paid for that pile of self-satsified, self-indulgent tripe. Though she probably did.

catsmother Thu 21-Feb-13 07:42:02


At the risk of sounding snobbish, I also favour children who have good old-fashioned Victorian names such as George, Henry and Victoria

And yet her DDs are called Poppy and India hmm

TickleMyTitsTillFriday Thu 21-Feb-13 07:45:14

I'm not clicking that link, she would love it if I did!

Just what I was thinking dragon she really is a ridiculous women

aladdinsane Thu 21-Feb-13 07:47:47

I looked at the children and thought they were lounging around in their nightclothes
Little did I realise- they are obviously high achieving dresses!
I love the one holding the toy Dyson - going to be a cleaner then

Disclaimer- I don't think there is anything wrong with being a cleaner

MrsBucketxx Thu 21-Feb-13 07:50:30

she is clearly going to make her children social outcasts, if it bothers her that much she should pay to go private.

Moominsarehippos Thu 21-Feb-13 07:53:18

Where does one submit ones child's application form? Were skint but awfully well connected (abroad though). Does that count?

Her child/ren are going to be horribly bullied, aren't they?

Actually, I thought it was one of the mums of a child who went to DSs school! She was awful.

PolkadotCircus Thu 21-Feb-13 07:55:12

Pmsl just read this and live quite near.<Note to self stop reading The Daily Fail whilst in bed waiting for the kids to wake up.>

I honestly thought it was a joke.

Those poor children.sadHow on earth are they going to get on in life later and what horrible values to teach your children.Good luck with the school run Monday morning.grin

My dd is a spirited(2 brothers)true individual leggings wearer with an amazing imagination Kate would run a mile from.Sometimes late due to hairbrushing wars/ disorganised mummy,we have iPods and the like however no need for tutors here,all v bright kids doing well who pick their own friends which they are doing a fantastic job with.Have trained them to be friendly and kind to all to value qualities such as kindness and loyalty,develop their own style and interests.

Wonder which kids will get on in life better.The ones who can find true friends for themselves,embrace their own style or those used to mummy picking friends unable to find gold in people.<Note to Kate the type of friend you want at 3am when you feel rock bottom ain't a vapid sap with neat handwriting.>

PoppadomPreach Thu 21-Feb-13 07:55:19

By starting an OP like this, you have played into the hands of the DM and Katie Hopkins. Just like the Samantha Brick diatribe, this is a calculating article designed totally to enrage the reader. We are now talking about it (yes, I realise I am too) and clicking on their website - increasing their advertising revenue and therefore prompting Katie Price to expose us to even more shite.

Seriously, the best thing we can do is simple ignore, every single time, and not publicise this meaningless claptrap written by a desperate wannabe.

When people have no talent, they have to use the shock factor to get attention. This is exactly what Katie Price is doing. There is very, very little substance beneath that smug exterior.

MercedesKing Thu 21-Feb-13 07:56:17

Vile!! Do not agree with her totally. she is so short-sighted and selfish to educate her children!!

Sparklingbrook Thu 21-Feb-13 07:56:47

I am with Shang. I don't think my DC should mix with children whose Mum gets papped topless in a field with someone else's husband.

I don't believe a word of anything she writes, Charmaine doesn't exist. In fact I am not sure KH exists. It's all rubbish.

And she is the least photogenic person I have ever seen. grin

KenDoddsDadsDog Thu 21-Feb-13 07:57:40

I just love the fact she can't afford to go private !

Sparklingbrook Thu 21-Feb-13 07:58:44

She is the sort of parent that allows their child to stand on the furniture with their shoes on too. That's a no-no in this house.

crazycatlady82 Thu 21-Feb-13 07:59:30

My mother was a bit like that. The difficulty being she would regularly change her mind to who she did and didn't like.

She would be very criticising of a friend one day and then ask how they were getting on and when I am next seeing them the following month.

I never knew what was the 'right' answer so I would frequently lie about my friendships and shy away from making friends at all in case she disapproved.

I spent my late teenage years and early 20s questioning myself constantly and feeling I was never good enough. My friendships were dysfunctional because I didn't know how to get through 'difficult' patches in friendships without retreating from the friendship completely.

Resulting in no friends of my own attending my very small wedding (30 people). I felt my friends weren't good enough for my new husband (I should say he never said that but he didn't want to push the issue because I was so fragile) so, i again rejected everyone who was excited about my pending nuptials.

It s only in my late 20s/early 30s with huge support from my husband and therapy that I have been able to develop a very close nit group of close friends - each and every one are worth their weight in gold!

I feel there is no good for the children that can come from a parent choosing their friends.

Children are quite capable enough to choose who they do and don't like and should always be encouraged to have self confidence in all their relationships.

Just my thoughts...

Timetoask Thu 21-Feb-13 08:00:20

I wonder what reception she will get at the school gate this morning? I hope her children are not ostracised because of this article, the other parents will be fuming.

Sparklingbrook Thu 21-Feb-13 08:01:49

Does she even go to the school gate?

Timetoask Thu 21-Feb-13 08:03:37

At some point she'll need to step foot at the school.... (cos she's such a good mum you see)

MirandaWest Thu 21-Feb-13 08:05:01

She's nuts isn't she? I am enjoying wondering where we would fit on her scale - DC who are reasonably clever, have Victorian and biblical names, go to swimming and brownies/cubs and have music lessons at school but are on the messy side, we have various electronic gadgets and DD not only wears leggings but she wears jeggings shock. I think she's a single parent(?) so we'd presumably be OK there.
My children have been known to google my name - hope hers don't.

Sparklingbrook Thu 21-Feb-13 08:05:16

She's bonkers isn't she?

PolkadotCircus Thu 21-Feb-13 08:07:24

It's scary though.You assume all parents raise kids trying to instil good values but clearly some don't-tis a tough old world out there.sad

Starting to wonder if my dc are a bit sheltered,you don't get anything like that at our school.

usualsuspect Thu 21-Feb-13 08:07:33

Articles like these are just another way of trolling

PolkadotCircus Thu 21-Feb-13 08:08:06

Sparkling grin grin grin

Oh and yuck!

imnotmymum Thu 21-Feb-13 08:09:30

Do none of you think friends influence children? There are certain kids that I discourage my children to associate with [runs of and hides and makes a banner saying bad, bad Mother]

PolkadotCircus Thu 21-Feb-13 08:11:11

Miranda we have a pair of jeggings too-they are turquoise though....

Sparklingbrook Thu 21-Feb-13 08:11:12

No. I let my DC choose their friends. Neither has been led astray so far. You could maybe do it when they are younger if you wanted. But now at 11 and 13 it's up to them.

DomesticCEO Thu 21-Feb-13 08:12:48

Yes friends do influence your children and there are some kids I'd rather my kids kept away from but I wouldn't voice that to them or do anything about it.

For starters I may have judged them completely wrong!

But she lets them pur their feet on the upholstery...?shock Time for some pearl clutching.

Anyway, if she keeps dressing her kids in those awful matching outfits they'll probably be social outcasts anyway.

Sparklingbrook Thu 21-Feb-13 08:14:12

I am very shocked about the shoes on the sofa thing Makes. I don't know any parents that allow that.

dontwanttobefatandforty Thu 21-Feb-13 08:14:35

Did you also notice all the things under the sofas!

Lynned Thu 21-Feb-13 08:15:52

Well my dc would know not to put their shoes on the sofa, or has someone said that.?blush

Sparklingbrook Thu 21-Feb-13 08:17:35

Exactly Lynned or stand on it.

Plus all her kids look like tiny little shadows...actually no, I reckon Max is going to give her hell fairly soon, but those poor girls are well and truly under the thumb

PolkadotCircus Thu 21-Feb-13 08:24:04

I've never really done it, have had words if I hear of catty behaviour and told dd not to get involved.There is one friend my dd adores(tis mutual) who has a particularly shallow mum who quite frankly us up her own backside and with whom I have zero in common with.

I worried re said child treating dd well however 4 years on they're still very good friends and I firmly believe you can only guide and educate them in valuing decent qualities in people,the rest is up to them.They like who they like and need to learn life lessons themselves.Once they get to secondary you have no control.I suspect this mother's dd's will end up hiding things from her eventually.sad

I speak as an ex teacher though who has seen parents try to artificially make friendships only for girls to befriend entirely different friends within the school gates.No where near as extreme as this though.

Think she's going to have a shock with the boy-boys all seem to knock about together.

catsmother Thu 21-Feb-13 08:24:58

Ha ha Poppadompreach, it's not Katie Price - it's the other repulsive Katie !!

Maybe the two horrid Katies can get their kids together for a playdate ?!

LottieJenkins Thu 21-Feb-13 08:26:55

I dont envy Katie when she nexts goes into the playground! She is such a hypocritical bitch. I wonder what she will tell her children when they see the pictures of her and asking why Mummy was having sex in a field!!!hmm

Sparklingbrook Thu 21-Feb-13 08:28:30

I bet playdates at their house are a laugh a minute. sad

farmersdaughter Thu 21-Feb-13 08:28:34

Would love to her at the school gates this morning....{Awkward}

...just wait till you little darlings start dating!!!

badtemperedaldbitch Thu 21-Feb-13 08:29:01

Maybe she'll sack the cleaner!

landofsoapandglory Thu 21-Feb-13 08:29:25

I hope she comes back and writes a similar article about how wonderful rebellious they are when they are teenagers!

My DC have iPads and iPods and parties at soft play, but they didn't need tutors to get A*s and As in GCSEs, didn't stand on furniture with their shoes on or have ride on toys in the house!

TheSecondComing Thu 21-Feb-13 08:31:32

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

vile, thick woman. I hope Charmaine isn't her real name, and the details have been changed too.

PolkadotCircus Thu 21-Feb-13 08:33:54

Wonder how much she got paid to do it,making your kids lives difficult for a few ££££££-nice.

fancyanother Thu 21-Feb-13 08:34:06

Yes strange abut the names she chose for her children- Max- Not Maximillian? Just Max? Surely a derivation? Poppy? India? I quite like them, but I'm not an inveterate snob about other peoples name choices- If I was, I would say Poppy- a bit girly and India? Hardly classic! She seems to have failed to mention her 'nanny' or her husband either- maybe perhaps her tactic of snaring wealthy married men by having an affair and getting pregnant hasn't paid off (again?) God, more pointless articles to pay the odious womans bills!

PoppadomPreach Thu 21-Feb-13 08:34:33

Catsmother - I was thinking Katie Hopkins but typing Katie Price! But I suspect Katie Price has a lot more business acumen than Katie Hopkins - Katie H just seems so desperate to be controversial. And the fact she has to continually publish these articles I think says a lot about her lack of success at doing business.

iwantanafternoonnap Thu 21-Feb-13 08:37:52

Isn't she the woman that bleated on about money? Something to do with her husband earning not sure now brain too tired after night shift.

She is vile and someone I would not want my child near but would let her kids come to my house for some normality grin

I had people when I was a kid steer their child away from being friends with me because my dad was a drunk, lived in a council house and my mum was a cleaner. I had great fun when I saw one of those snotty mothers in town and they asked what I had been up to since school, knowing that her daughter got pregnant at 17-18 (not judging that by the way!) 'oh you know not much I joined the Navy from school and was one of the first women at sea, travelled round the world by myself when I left and I am about to start my nurse training at one of the top 10 Unis in the country' She had a face like a smacked arse especially when I asked how her daughter was grin

Can't stand people who look down on others because of their clothes, parents jobs etc.

eminemmerdale Thu 21-Feb-13 08:38:18

I wish my children were at her childrens school - they have the right names. <sigh>

eminemmerdale Thu 21-Feb-13 08:40:07

I have to admit my mother still judges my childrens friends by where they live. dd went to see a friend who had left her school and moved to the other side of town - they are visiting academics so renting for a year. When i told my mum the name of the street she was appalled 'what on earth type people are they??' she wailed. It's hideous.

prettybird Thu 21-Feb-13 08:43:52

I thought we were trying not to mention her name on this thread so that we wouldn't stoke her obsession with publicity. hmmgrin

Sparklingbrook Thu 21-Feb-13 08:44:46

Yes, she will be Hatie Kopkins from now on pretty.

IAmLouisWalsh Thu 21-Feb-13 08:48:39

Silly fucking cow

leaharrison11 Thu 21-Feb-13 08:51:53

How horrible, children are innocent i was brought up with tea parties in my mums tiny two up two down because she couldn't afford a "skanky" leisure centre, and i left school with A's , hate the class system and those kids will rebel at teens im waiting for her article then, silly superficial woman

Moominsarehippos Thu 21-Feb-13 08:52:08

I feel sorry for her. Maybe she has AS and thinks she's just saying the truth? She really must be in her own little bubble most of the time.

Oh dear, she's setting these children up for a lot of unhappiness.

Cantbelieveitsnotbutter Thu 21-Feb-13 09:06:49

I cannot wait until they are teenagers!!!

poozlepants Thu 21-Feb-13 09:37:53

If Charmaine was actually real her mother would deserve a medal for inviting Hopkin's kids to a party. Shows far better manners than Hopkins herself.

The DM have two real cash cows here in the shape of Hopkins and Sibary. Two women who are prepared to repeatedly pimp out their kids lives in the Daily Mail writing inflammatory rubbish. Eventually the kids will end up writing about their narc mothers and years of therapy. And on and and on.

pictish Thu 21-Feb-13 09:42:36

Dearie me - what a thoroughly unpleasant article.

limitedperiodonly Thu 21-Feb-13 09:58:03

My childhood dream was to be called Charmaine.

Now I realise it acts as a twat forcefield it's even more appealing.

expatinscotland Thu 21-Feb-13 10:02:20

Poor kids.

VincenzaOfSaragossa Thu 21-Feb-13 10:08:58

I'm laughing at the DM comments on this piece. They all think the other children are real (no, folks, there's no "Charmaine" in Poppy's class), and that the mother normally lets her children stand on the furniture in their shoes (um, it's for a photo shoot. Normal rules suspended and all that...).

I do think her argument falls apart a bit once she reveals that her children are at a state primary. It would have been more compelling if she'd gone private to avoid "Charmaine" et al.

RaspberrySchnapps Thu 21-Feb-13 10:09:05

What an utter dickhead this woman is. Thank you for putting her smugly mug on my screen on an otherwise lovely morning.

poor matchy matchy children. Do you think when they rebel at 14 and start shagging/stoning/tattooing she will be writing about that in her pointless column for the Daily Fail?

nipersvest Thu 21-Feb-13 10:12:11

i don't read articles written by people i deem beneath me wink

Chubfuddler Thu 21-Feb-13 10:12:20

She's clearly desperate for her children to do well at primary so they pass 11+ or get a scholarship/bursary as she desperately wants them to go private but she can't afford it.

<head tilt>
<fake meoux of sympathy>

AnnIonicIsoTronic Thu 21-Feb-13 10:20:11

I don't think the photographer liked them. What an unflattering sub-Boden pastiche of a photoshoot!

orangeandlemons Thu 21-Feb-13 10:25:37

What a cow! And ha ha at the girls dresses. Someone bought my dd one of these from Debenhams. I was a bit hmm about the dress, as I thought it looked ...well....trashy ( or common as my dm would have said!)

runningforthebusinheels Thu 21-Feb-13 10:29:23

Silly woman. Don't give her the attention.

I haven`t read the article but saw the headline, but I thought straight away, how could her children have received party invitations unless they were friends and played with them anyway?

But the woman is a total tool anyway.

MerryCouthyMows Thu 21-Feb-13 10:46:44

Chubfuddler - You actually made me snort with this comment :

"I was always under the impression that children caught cleverness from their mother. Her bunch are in no danger there."


Just had a good peer at the third photo down...
You'd think if you were putting yourself up as a paragon of the perfect family home you'd move all the crap stuffed under the sofas before the photoshoot?
And if you were bleating on about discouraging children with electronic toys you wouldn't give your own daughter what looks suspiciously like a crappy fake plastic laptop. And that you could find something more educational and less gender stereotyped for them to play with than a fake hoover?

And why are the girls wearing summer dresses and sandals? Has the Mail already run this and is pulling it out again for a second airing?

toffeelolly Thu 21-Feb-13 10:56:00

Hate , Hate that bitch , god help her children!

Cuddlyrunner Thu 21-Feb-13 11:49:33

I clicked on her name in the DM article to see what else she had written, there are only 3 articles including this one and the same pics are used in another one of them. Presumably they are old ones.

simplesusan Thu 21-Feb-13 13:23:54

It would be nice if the paper published something of worth she has done instead of his drivel.

DizzyHoneyBee Thu 21-Feb-13 14:00:02

simplesusan, I think there is one big problem with publishing something of worth she has done.....I'll leave you all to work out what the problem is grin

IrnBruTheNoo Thu 21-Feb-13 14:17:18

It's this kind of attitude that means her children will want to socialise with children who are a bad influence later on because they've not been exposed to all walks of life from early on...very narrow minded. Friendships cannot be forced.

Darkesteyes Thu 21-Feb-13 21:58:57

Ah yes. Sibary.
The woman who thinks that the people who slut shamed her daughter did her (Shona herself) a favour.


BinarySolo Fri 22-Feb-13 10:50:39

She's about to appear on This Morning

chickensarmpit Fri 22-Feb-13 10:54:08

She cannot comment on anyone with kids looking like that.

Commenting on the children's looks is not on.

They didn't get to choose what their mother is like.

BinarySolo Fri 22-Feb-13 11:00:51

Urgh! 'My kind of people will be at work'. Yes right, Katie. That's why you're losing the poll. Cretin.

BinarySolo Fri 22-Feb-13 11:02:35

They use those photos every time she writes an article. Maybe they can't get a photographer willing to spend time with her.

chickensarmpit Fri 22-Feb-13 11:06:15

She needs to wash her carpets too.

kimorama Fri 22-Feb-13 11:56:25

We are a class society and climbing into one class often means leaving others behind. But it is not often admitted

jaynebxl Fri 22-Feb-13 14:58:48

Did anyone else read the article and immediately fantasise about her inviting your children to play, only to HAVE to tell her that you couldn't possibly let your children play with a family who were beneath them?

jaynebxl Fri 22-Feb-13 14:59:11

And who didn't use naice traditional Victorian names for their children!

LineRunner Fri 22-Feb-13 15:06:12

I called my son Inspector Abberline of the Yard.

cory Fri 22-Feb-13 15:49:00

What class has Katie Hopkins actually climbed into? What are her wonderful academic and business achievements?

MrsBombastic Fri 22-Feb-13 15:55:29

What this idiotic woman fails to undestand is that the parents at this school probably do the same thing to her just the other way around..

The parents see her coming, grab their kids and go sharply into reverse!

I fantasise about having children of whom she approves, asking hers over for a play date and making sure Charmaine, Tyrone and whoever else she might disapprove of are also invited grin

CheerfulYank Fri 22-Feb-13 18:42:50

When I was little there were houses she didn't let me go to (and right she was, one of them was an actual crack house) but she always made the children welcome at ours.

This woman is a snobby cow. I see a bit of this sometimes as we don't have a lot of money and live in a house "in town" rather than the new fancy developments or big homes on the lake. But my son is amazing, so the other kids should be so lucky. grin

His name is Samuel...where does that fall on the classy scale?? wink

CheerfulYank Fri 22-Feb-13 18:43:43

First sentence should say "when I was little there were houses my mom didn't let me go to"

OhToBeCleo Fri 22-Feb-13 20:26:54

So I see that the DM is living down to its reputation.....

What fascinates me is which 'real world' she thinks that her kids are going to inhabit once they leave her over protective snobbish clutches. She's doing them no favours at all - poor kids!

edam Fri 22-Feb-13 20:32:05

Oh dear, what a sad woman. Avaricious petit-bourgeois on the make - definite lack of manners and grace. And if she thinks private schools are immune from drug taking and teenage pregnancy she's got another think coming...

NigellasGuest Fri 22-Feb-13 20:48:13

have I missed something?
WHY does she not send her kids to private school?

VincenzaOfSaragossa Fri 22-Feb-13 21:50:06

Because she's not classy enough. We wouldn't have her in our playground. grin

kimorama Sat 02-Mar-13 11:35:18

In truth CLASSES in broad terms do not intermingle. Social climbing is getting on in a country like ours. Mine is a large family 2 went posh, and it did change peoples attitude to them

dashoflime Sat 02-Mar-13 12:21:47

Oh dear God, where to start....

How about here:

First off we have a really snotty catalogue of little Charmaine's working class signifiers followed by: "a study confirms exactly what I have always believed. Academic success is infectious. Pupils 'catch' cleverness from their friends."

Unless that study covered the influence of pink leggings, electronic toys, pierced ears and soft play on intellectual development- then the study does not "confirm" her stupid prejudices.

Cleverness is not an exclusive middle class trait- IQ varies among individuals of all classes. Class privilege can effect attainment and life outcomes however, which is why I would assume that a study looking at the effect of friendships on achievement would control for class.

This alone should put Katie on guard against applying the findings rigidly to her own children's lives: as they very much do benefit form class privilege. This is a very important factor in predicting their course in life. Much more so than any effect of their choice of friendships I would expect.

She makes a couple of references to children's attainment coming from the attitudes and commitment of the parents, which is closer to the mark (and contradicts her own argument!). She wants to be cautious about assuming her own home is some kind of intellectual hothouse however, when its clear from her own writing that she is unable to formulate a logically consistent argument.

I have to agree with the person up thread who predicted lifelong problems forming friendships for her children.

lrichmondgabber Fri 08-Mar-13 11:41:21

well, classes are bout people mixing with others in similar circumstances. And we have a rabid class system So why the suprise at the op

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