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Just noticed that there was no thread running here, after reading of the distress Jimmy Savile threads was having on Posters.

They had 7 chances to get him

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2223400/Jimmy-Savile-scandal-Police-arrest-household-celebrities-days.html?ICO=most_read_module

Frightened To Death Stars contacting Max Clifford

I have a real problem with what Max Clifford is saying - these 'young pop stars' who had a choice in how they behaved making out they were helpless in the face of all that was on 'offer'. The whole 'not asking for anyone's birth cert' crap is just a fucking awful excuse.

Maybe we should tell him that ignorance isn't a defence in law.

And another thing, anyone who genuinely did nothing wrong would have no reason to go to the likes of Clifford. That fact that they are all heading his way says they knew at the time whatever they did was wrong but didn't care then as they had no worries about any comeback on their activities or behaviour. Taking advantage of your position with young, often naive teenagers, is not the sort of behaviour that's mandatory when you suddenly become famous. The fact that its encouraged and lauded in the press or whatever still doesn't remove the choice to be a kind decent human being instead of one who takes what they want with no regard to the consequences.

It says it all really. Employ the most slick pr man you can when the shit finally hits the fan, so you get the most favourable outcome in the press, rather than actually face up to the choices you made when you had power over others.

MC likes to tell he encouraged JK to go to the police, he is not so keen to tell us his client SC put up JK bail money.

It is getting more complex by the day. BBC need to get a full report out and see what we think of it. It seems Savile got all powerful and thought he was untouchable. But press, police and BBC had some evidence years ago. Savile faced them all down. They could have bugged his caravan.

I see GG was arrested this morning.

Not sure what it is all about the press drawing their gaze on Jim Davidson now?

I feel quite grossed out at all the women in their thirties running after a 16/17 yo Harry Styles.

This issue continues to get murkier by the day

I have been reading far too many posts on DI forum. Ranges from very interesting to wildly odd!

I was surprised when I heard that gg had been arrested even though I knew it was likely! I'm wondering who will be next.

Mrs JR where did you see that?

Here he is.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2224308/Jimmy-Savile-allegations-Comedian-Jim-Davidson-slams-silly-witch-hunt-scandal.html

Could never stand JD. Ugh.

Have you seen the DI forum 6th Earl link?

Wrt to JD it wouldn't surprise me if the sad fucker is just desperate for some attention, he's probably been round all the newspapers begging asking if they want to talk to him about JS

quite frankly I'm surprised JD has spoken out like this. Must be even more thick than I thought.

6th earl link - not sure what that is - will have a look!

I think the oddest JS interview in the past few weeks has to be from his long term lover g/f who cheated on him.

Just had a look at DM and some deluded fool from St James's palace recons JS won't have tried anything in THERE! Whilst trying to distance POW from his mate Jimmy the most prevelant sex beast known.

MrsJR - I agree there is some very interesting stuff to read on DI about Saville family history, Mountbatten, knatchbull connections.
Also interesting stuff about B George and a friend of saviles called George.....
Not sure which pages though - owing mostly to their cut and paste other people's post facility their threads are so much longer and disjointed!
They were up to p438 last I looked!

I can't keep up with the DI forum, really they linked JS to MB? just WOW!

Not JS as such - other savilles are connected (can't remover how) to the names I mentioned.
DI forum is speedy quick moving!
And I feel I need a notebook to truly keep up as people say so many things worthy of investigation then it moves on to something else - but then I think argggh it's getting bad if I'm taking notes from the di forum!
Step away from the thread............

Savilles friend called George should definitely be researched further. And the sutcliffe connection

Just seen on Twitter that Mark Williams Thomas has had contact with the Duncroft headmistress. Shes said that the police havent contacted her regarding JS.
What with this and the PR in full swing to distance POW from JS i have a nasty feeling the BBC are gonna carry the can for this and the rest of it is going to be swept under the carpet or at the very least they are going to try to.

This is going to run and run. I am so disapointed the only arrest has been GG.

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What's happening with the nine BBC staff that were suspended? Are they still?

There is a video of Ben fellows talking on YouTube - tricky to link on this gadget but I'll try if someone else doesn't! Worth watching

I second your fears mrsjr - those in power won't want this to fully come out so it may forever be not fully explored - I'm guessing we need to hope people like Tom Watson? keep making a noise about it.

beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2012/10/ben-fellows-rips-bbc-abuse-and-cover-up-culture-2485546.html

Was this the one?

Tips I will look at that link later.

I see from DI forum the Palace are behaving like victims in The Star paper over JS.

DI forum have a bee in their bonnets and are tweeting MNTowers.

Yes that's it tips - start watching at about 42 mins.

Perhaps we should keep this thread from AIBU bumped:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/1600751--to-think-that-Max-Clifford-is-not-a-suitable-person-to-head

the more people generally aware, the better IMHO

will take a look.

DM tracked down one of JS's friends, he went to Spain recently and claims ignorance, a bit like St James's pLace in The Star claiming to be victums.

Doctors too scared to come forward in fear of losing fundraising

Anya. That sums it up really god how depressing.

Excellent Channel 4 News report on Savile in Broadmoor.

Mental health nurses and the paedophiles at Broadmoor thought that Savile was a paedophile, but at one stage he was actually running the place.

www.channel4.com/news/catch-up/

Click on the Savile in Broadmoor bit in the Now playing section underneath the video.

Anyone following the Anna Raccoon blog recently? Today she's reporting a conversation she had with the head of Duncroft.

www.annaraccoon.com/politics/past-lives-and-present-misgivings-part-seven/

Js estate has been frozen I hope the victims can get every penny.

Read a lot of the DI forum last night and although there were parts Im not convinced by a lot of it made sense. I cant help but feel that arrests such as GG and probably a couple of obvious others will happen I feel as though this will still be coverered up a lot. I think they will lull the public into a false sense of security and justice by laying total blame at certain peoples doors. But then thinking about it, would the public really want it all to come out, it would make the majority of people very uncomfortable if the depth of this was proved. All that we believed in would be shattered, who would you trust?

Can anyone else see what I`m saying? (I would love to see it all exposed) Perhaps reading the DI forum was probably not the best thing to do, my heads going to explode.

I've been reading that forum as well, Dreams
I agree - there will be a few arrests to pay lip service, to keep everyone happy and everything else just hushed up again. So we can all go back to living our happy lives, safe in the knowledge that the nasty people have been dealt with. When in fact, it goes a lot deeper and a lot higher, but how many of us can truly accept that fact? I am NOT into all the shapeshifting lizards & owl worship nonsense but there is other stuff that is perfectly feasible...

The Channel 4 News report is also here
www.channel4.com/news/broadmoor-savile-was-a-lunatic-in-charge-of-the-asylum

Freddie Starr arrested

They are going for the small fry. I do hope they are lulling everyone else into a sense of false security.

The di forum makes you so scared. When you click all the links and follow the paths they make, it makes you shiver at the horror of it all.

http://www.perceptions.couk.com/promise.html#NEWS

Interesting site

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Go Tom!

Did anyone else notice in the BBC news regarding FS, before showing FS and Karin, a quick clip of Savile and Mountbatten flashed up.

Fs back at police station

Planned?

Who is the SPF? Portillo?

SPF?

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The senior political figure due to be accused paedophile activity by BBC tonight tells me that he still hasn't heard from them for response
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Senior Political Figure

I heard that name along with a floral name. That is not the one I was thinking of, I was thinking of a hefty bloke, just my guess.

what's the betting it doesn't get to air, anyway

anyone here been over at the DI forums by any chance?

What are they good?

yeh take a a look on the particular thread associated with the ex bbc employee which is in 'general news' I think

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2227086/They-angels-Headmistresss-cruel-dismissal-girls-abused-Jimmy-Savile-claims-told-to.html

link

"And his involvement at Broadmoor was rubber-stamped in 1974 by Dr David Owen, now Lord Owen, who was health minister, government papers in the National Archives disclose."

www.dnaindia.com/world/report_jimmy-savile-taped-himself-assaulting-young-girls_1760967

Savile recorded himself abusing two girls, then gave the tape to the bbc