Andy Coulson, Rebekah Brooks and others charged

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NicholasTeakozy Tue 24-Jul-12 13:07:40

BBC article. Good.

limitedperiodonly Tue 24-Jul-12 13:20:52

I was waiting for someone to start a thread. I'm shy.

Top moment so far was Crystal Tipps's deranged statement before being wrestled into a straitjacket by her legal team.

HaitchJay Tue 24-Jul-12 13:23:46

Really wanting a like button for that thread title grin

PerspectiveUrgentlyRequired Tue 24-Jul-12 13:25:45

Just found this - I'll add another mwahahahahahahahaaaaa here too. grin

NicholasTeakozy Tue 24-Jul-12 13:27:11

Ooh Limited yer coward. grin I waited a couple of hours in the hope someone else would start a thread. blush

There is the possibility it could turn into a show trial.

limitedperiodonly Tue 24-Jul-12 13:27:42

That statement in full. Base notes of arrogance and delusion with top notes of wounded self-pity.

“I am not guilty of these charges. I did not authorise, nor was I aware of, phone hacking under my editorship. I am distressed and angry that the CPS have reached this decision when they knew all the facts and were in a position to stop the case at this stage. The charge concerning Milly Dowler is particularly upsetting not only as it is untrue but also because I have spent my journalistic career campaigning for victims of crime. I will vigorously defend these allegations.”

If I was using Milly Dowler as a get-out-of-jail-free-card I'd give her parents a wide berth

limitedperiodonly Tue 24-Jul-12 13:32:26

What you mean like keeping the accused up for days, vigorous application of crocodile clips and electricity and then years of internal exile followed by a lifetime as an un-person?

I never thought I'd have a good word to say for Stalin. And at least we don't take people out in the snowy woods and shoot them in the back of the head.

<pity>
<obviously there might be an innocent explanation for all this>

PerspectiveUrgentlyRequired Tue 24-Jul-12 14:48:08

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emmieging Tue 24-Jul-12 14:57:16

Good. That statement is odious.

limitedperiodonly Tue 24-Jul-12 15:40:31

perspective I always like the response: 'I think I will be the judge of that.' Especially when it's a proper judge and jury.

<wonders if they will get off>

<realises that while the News of the World is popular with ordinary folk, it's not in the same sense that Harry Redknapp is popular>

NicholasTeakozy Tue 24-Jul-12 17:06:04

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MrsVamos Tue 24-Jul-12 17:11:43

I agree, NicholasTeakozy.

I just hope that they have the necessary proof to convict, beyond reasonable doubt.

This will be interesting.

emmieging Tue 24-Jul-12 17:17:31

I agree too. I also get the impression Rebekah brooks is one of those people who can convince herself something is true if she keeps saying it often enough! I'm sure she believes she really didn't know anything ... Honest guv!

limitedperiodonly Tue 24-Jul-12 18:29:12

I think I agree NicTeakozy. And though some people are sloppy, others are meticulous in keeping notebooks and emails.

I'm disappointed in Coulson. I thought he was grace under fire.

I'm not surprised that Brooks rushed out a vainglorious defence. As emmie said, she probably needed it to convince herself.

I think he's been spooked into one. Poor show. Who's it supposed to impress?

lisaro Tue 24-Jul-12 18:50:20

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NicholasTeakozy Tue 24-Jul-12 19:12:27

NewsThump article with their take. The last two lines '“I think we should wait and hear the facts of the case first. Making snap judgements about their guilt or innocence is not the job of the general public.”

“That’s the job of the tabloid editors.”'

Hahahahahahahahaha

DappyHays Wed 25-Jul-12 14:27:54

A quick mwahahahahaha from me too.

Viviennemary Wed 25-Jul-12 14:35:43

I was hoping somebody would start a thread. She really is the personification of the self righteousness, know-all, don't mess with me type. And then a little drop of poor little me added to it. Glad she is getting her just deserts at last. She really is self-delusional if she thinks she gets any sympathy from this sort of 'speech'.

grin at Nicholasteakozy!

PostBellumBugsy Wed 25-Jul-12 14:39:02

Oh, glad this thread has started too. Thank you NicT. Is it wrong to be looking forward to the trial?

Greythorne Wed 25-Jul-12 14:41:13

I think she probably now believes she did nothing wrong. She has been surrounded by 'yes men' (and women) for so long, she has no moral fibre left.

NicholasTeakozy Wed 25-Jul-12 17:45:56

No Post, it's de rigeur to be drooling in anticipation. grin

Viviennemary Wed 25-Jul-12 17:57:57

It's champagne on ice waiting for the verdict. that is awful. Sorry!

Jux Wed 25-Jul-12 18:02:41

Oh, I'm definitely drooling!

VivaLeBeaver Wed 25-Jul-12 18:06:03

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limitedperiodonly Wed 25-Jul-12 18:13:11

It's not going to be at least spring 2013. sad

I keep myself going by imagining the evaporation of the Brooks' social life.

A mantelpiece bare of Stiffies;
No more stirrup cups at Hunt meets at Chipping-cum-Sod-You;
A shared Waitrose turkey crown facing each other across a yawning table on Xmas day;
Two crackers (jokes not-so-carefully vetted by the Czech cleaning lady);
No Boxing Day hunting aboard a Met Police nag named Mind How You Go;
No New Year invitation to Chequers with Dave and Sam;
No New Year cruising aboard one of the many Murdoch yachts;

The one upside to being persona non-grata at New Year holidays in the Caribbean or the slopes of Megeve is that Rebekah will save a fortune on SPF 60.

And she can bond with that baby she bought.

SerialKipper Wed 25-Jul-12 18:13:23

Oooh, careful. They signalled ages ago they'd be claiming they can't get a fair trial.

Some guidance from MN Towers on what not to say?

limitedperiodonly Wed 25-Jul-12 18:15:54

Oh, and they will be cut dead by Jeremy Clarkson.

That's surely a plus point.

VivaLeBeaver Wed 25-Jul-12 18:16:41

Clarkson won't cut them dead. He'll write a newspaper article proclaiming their innocence and raging about the miscarriage of justice.

limitedperiodonly Wed 25-Jul-12 18:17:19

Shit! They really are doomed, then.

SerialKipper Wed 25-Jul-12 18:18:35

grin at limited

limitedperiodonly Wed 25-Jul-12 18:24:20

serial I'd normally agree and do my knitting in private.

But so many newspapers have spent so long telling us that the investigation was a waste of valuable resources when coppers should be investigating REAL CRIMES like terrorism and collecting their money for writing columns for NI and that this whole business was just a minority pursuit by Guardian-reading nerds, that surely it would be easy to find decent citizens who knew nothing about it to make up a jury.

But I bow to the wisdom of MNHQ rotten spoilsports if they delete it

limitedperiodonly Wed 25-Jul-12 18:25:07

I don't read the Guardian btw so I'm available for jury duty grin

SerialKipper Wed 25-Jul-12 18:31:40

Allez les tricoteuses!

VivaLeBeaver Wed 25-Jul-12 18:36:27

I'd pay decent money to be called up for jury service for this.

donnie Wed 25-Jul-12 18:41:44

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donnie Wed 25-Jul-12 18:43:39

pmsl @ 'Crystal Tips' ! grin

donnie Wed 25-Jul-12 18:45:04

on a scale of 1 - 10 how much do you think Dave Cameron is squirming in his y fronts right now? thanks goodness he has the olympics to divert people's attention.

limitedperiodonly Wed 25-Jul-12 18:46:18

YY donnie I found Coulson's statement quite sinister in a kind of 'You people know me and I know where you live' way.

I don't like his mean-looking wire-rimmed spectacles either. If I was his barrister I'd get him to change them for something more unworldly in horn rim.

limitedperiodonly Wed 25-Jul-12 18:47:20

Dave Cameron is squirming in his y fronts

Must you? I'm about to put the sausages on.

emmieging Wed 25-Jul-12 18:51:54

And while we're on the subject, does she really think that having a mane of pre- raphaelite dyed red curls can make up for the fact that shes got an extremely plain face with no attractive features whatsoever??

Just wondering

donnie Wed 25-Jul-12 18:53:55

be careful emmie, you may just turn to stone......

MrGin Wed 25-Jul-12 19:00:47

They're both up for seperate purgery charges also as aren't they ?

Camerons judgement of friends and advisors looks pretty poor.

GetOrfMoiiLand Wed 25-Jul-12 19:03:07

limited you have been marvellous on this thread and the Paul Dacre one. grin

I am sure that shiny Dave will just waltz through this and nothing with stick.

3 years more of that ghaslty little man as prime minister.

And George Osbourne. He looks like something from the 1930s.

NicholasTeakozy Wed 25-Jul-12 19:10:28

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Viviennemary Wed 25-Jul-12 19:11:18

She always reminds me of that Greek myth woman with the snakes for hair. Only sayin.

donnie Wed 25-Jul-12 19:14:32

that's what I meant by the turning to stone reference Vivienne, the Medusa resemblance has been noted wink

Viviennemary Wed 25-Jul-12 19:17:21

Right. I'm slow. grin

NicholasTeakozy Wed 25-Jul-12 19:17:57
Viviennemary Wed 25-Jul-12 19:18:03

It's the heat. Enjoying this thread.

limitedperiodonly Wed 25-Jul-12 19:24:24

Thank you goml

In the very early days of my career on the Snoresville-and-Pettyspite Gazette I covered the fantastic magistrates' court trial of some miscreants who fought a neighbours' dispute concerning a large dog with boundary issues and a missing fence post.

It ended with a woman chucking the humungous pile of shit over the fence at the woman next door, their husbands being called, a bit of fisticuffs and the accidental arrest of the poor sod who'd come round to read the gas meters.

There wasn't enough room for them all in the dock and I had to move out of the press bench to where the public sat shock.

I imagine that's what it's going to be like when Crystal Tipps, Coulson, Thurlbeck, Edmondson, Mulcaire, Kuttner, Weatherup and Miskiw turn up at the Old Bailey.

It was a happy day for me because it was the first story I managed to sell to The Sun. I imagine it won't be so good for them.

GetOrfMoiiLand Wed 25-Jul-12 19:27:13

You have so many marvellous stories <sigh>

I have worked for 18 years and the best story I can conjure up from my thrilling like in engineering and project management is when I was in a plane crash in central France and was chatted up by an american called Bruce from Boeing. sad

limitedperiodonly Wed 25-Jul-12 19:30:06

TBH I make most of them up goml

GetOrfMoiiLand Wed 25-Jul-12 19:31:11

And there speaks the tabloid journalist grin

limitedperiodonly Wed 25-Jul-12 19:33:32

Seriously, a little while ago I was looking for a case study of a woman who'd survived a plane crash goml.

But I try not to use people I know in the very real chance that they'd never want to speak to me again.

GetOrfMoiiLand Wed 25-Jul-12 19:38:23

Well it wasn't that exciting.

It was a small plane (an Embraer fwiw) and it took off from Clermont Ferrand. I was idly looking out the window and noticed that we were bloody close to the tops of trees. The engine was making an awful noise but as it was a dozy small aeroplane I assume that was normal. Then it just dropped and landed with a bump, and hurtled down the runway, looked out the window and there was smoke everywhere and fire engines. They chucked us off the plane and we all just stood there in bewilderment at the (very disappointing) smoke.

We then waited in the very small provincial airport where THE BAR WAS CLOSED and good old Bruce came over to chat me up.

It's not like that bloke landing his plane on the Hudson. Very boring.

limitedperiodonly Wed 25-Jul-12 19:43:43

I could have knocked something into shape from that.

My girl was involved in an almost certain death spin at the end of which her boyfriend proposed to her in Arrivals.

By the time I'd finished with it.

GetOrfMoiiLand Wed 25-Jul-12 19:45:02

grin

limitedperiodonly Wed 25-Jul-12 19:45:38

And she got £50

GetOrfMoiiLand Wed 25-Jul-12 19:47:55

Fucking hell! I could have elaborated that crap story for £50.

The flames were MASSIVE, it was like a towering inferno, we had to escape the plane via that blow up slide thingy, and there were 2 babies, a nun, a child in a wheelchair and a terminally ill old man on board, as well as a liver which was due to be transplanted.

It was like a Holby City special double episode.

limitedperiodonly Wed 25-Jul-12 19:53:20

Yeah, I realised afterwards I could have got away with £25. £30 tops.

Sometimes the kindness of my heart runs away with me.

Luckily it's not likely to run very far.

LineRunner Wed 25-Jul-12 19:54:08

The bar was closed? FFS. Quelle horreure.

Oh and I hope Cameron's brain cell is finally in panic mode.

limitedperiodonly Wed 25-Jul-12 20:07:07

Cameron's brain cell. hmm

I've already been through the possibility that people aren't as old as me with goml but I'm going to risk it again.

Do you remember early computer games where you played tennis?

I imagine Dave's brain cell to be like the spookily green electronic 'ball' going 'spuck' as he shuttles between one shitfest and the next.

VivaLeBeaver Wed 25-Jul-12 20:09:10

Oooh yes. Bat and ball on my BBC model B.

LineRunner Wed 25-Jul-12 20:19:56

Altari space invaders?

GetOrfMoiiLand Wed 25-Jul-12 20:27:27

grin yes I remember that game.

I also had one of those round things with 4 lights which lit up in sequence which you had to remember. I imagine little George Osbourne's face doing that like he is doing fiendishly hard sums in the treasury.

VivaLeBeaver Wed 25-Jul-12 20:29:38
GetOrfMoiiLand Wed 25-Jul-12 20:34:19

That's it. Simon.

It was crap.

LineRunner Wed 25-Jul-12 20:38:24

I imagine wee Danny Alexander's face, busy thumbs trying to turn on his calculator, his tongue sticking out the side of his mouth.

GetOrfMoiiLand Wed 25-Jul-12 20:39:09

Danny.

Toddler's name, toddler's brain.

Liberal democrats <spits>

LineRunner Wed 25-Jul-12 20:41:40

So are any politicians actually going to be nervous about this? Or are they actually all too stupid?

NicholasTeakozy Wed 25-Jul-12 20:43:08

I imagine Dave's brain cell to be like the spookily green electronic 'ball' going 'spuck' as he shuttles between one shitfest and the next.

Limited that is brilliant! grin Now whenever I see his massive lightbulb head I'll imagine his brain as being a game of Pong.

limitedperiodonly Wed 25-Jul-12 20:44:18

I often look at Gideon at PMQs trying to count beyond 10 and then 20 which is a bit difficult because he has to wiggle his toes in his Churches.

Then he looks a bit consternated before having that contented look that toddlers have of 'ooh, what's that nice warm feeling in my nappy?'

GetOrfMoiiLand Wed 25-Jul-12 20:44:38

It feels the whole world is going to come to a standstill.

Bloody double dip recession (do you know what that is george? Perhaps the nice gentleman will show you a pretty graph to make it easier). Spain going beserk. The euro going mad. Downgrading the Germans. Banks just carrying on regardless making shit up.

And these awful retro politicians like something from the Tory party 100 years ago. Laissez Faire a go go.

GetOrfMoiiLand Wed 25-Jul-12 20:48:10
limitedperiodonly Wed 25-Jul-12 21:08:22

I love Damian Thompson on the rudeness of Dave and the less assured, though consquently more aggressive, rudeness of Gideon who only went to St Paul's.

I don't share their views but I respect outsider Tories such as the elegantly vicious Simon Heffer and that oiky poof (he'd be okay with that, I think) Andrew Pierce from the Mail.

We are being led by a shower of shite and every time like this morning when I rejoiced at the GDP figures I get depressed because they don't know what the fuck they're doing and they don't even know it.

GetOrfMoiiLand Wed 25-Jul-12 21:21:57

Yes he is great. I like reading the Telegraph blush

I have a lot of (admittedly grudging) respect for a lot of tories, know thine enemy and all that. I will never agree with their viewpoints but a lot of them are very strongly principled.

Not this shower though. And I reserve my deepest loathing (and always have) for lib dems. Nasty small minded party.

Who knew that we would look back in 2012 and wish that the country was led by someone fundamentally decent like John Major.

GetOrfMoiiLand Wed 25-Jul-12 21:22:44

Yes he is great. I like reading the Telegraph blush

I have a lot of (admittedly grudging) respect for a lot of tories, know thine enemy and all that. I will never agree with their viewpoints but a lot of them are very strongly principled.

Not this shower though. And I reserve my deepest loathing (and always have) for lib dems. Nasty small minded party.

Who knew that we would look back in 2012 and wish that the country was led by someone fundamentally decent like John Major.

GetOrfMoiiLand Wed 25-Jul-12 21:24:16

Sorry for double posts.

I think also Damian Thompson wrote a good article about the charm veneer of old etonians. I must admit that the old etonians I have worked with only switched the charm on when it suited. They must have classes at eton also in how to patronise the lower orders whilst giving the impression they are being flattering.

GetOrfMoiiLand Wed 25-Jul-12 21:24:37

Sorry for double posts.

I think also Damian Thompson wrote a good article about the charm veneer of old etonians. I must admit that the old etonians I have worked with only switched the charm on when it suited. They must have classes at eton also in how to patronise the lower orders whilst giving the impression they are being flattering.

Nancy66 Wed 25-Jul-12 21:48:00

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VivaLeBeaver Wed 25-Jul-12 21:50:00

Her husband is a fool if he falls on his sword for her. He'll go to prison and she will move on while he's inside.

Nancy66 Wed 25-Jul-12 21:54:25

no she won't - she's not really like that with men

VivaLeBeaver Wed 25-Jul-12 21:57:35

Well even if she doesn't I still think he's a fool. Though I suppose they've got their kid to consider now. I remember there were some cynical musings on here when they adopted the child that it was a ploy to keep her out of prison.

Nancy66 Wed 25-Jul-12 22:03:53

it was conceived via a surrogate - not adopted as such.
But, yes, suspicous timing for someone so vocal about never wanting kids most of her 30s and early 40s

GetOrfMoiiLand Wed 25-Jul-12 22:08:57

I like how someone described Charlie Brooks on another thread - 'a dim bulb'.

Bless him.

I bet she gets away with it as well. I bet they all do. And at least 3 more years of Cameron. <glum>

NicholasTeakozy Wed 25-Jul-12 22:34:39

I often look at Gideon at PMQs trying to count beyond 10 and then 20 which is a bit difficult because he has to wiggle his toes in his Churches.

Then he looks a bit consternated before having that contented look that toddlers have of 'ooh, what's that nice warm feeling in my nappy?

Limited you rotter! gringringrin

limitedperiodonly Wed 25-Jul-12 22:35:53

My nephews voted LibDem. Oh, the naivety of youth!

Gives me something to rub their noses in when they have the foolishness to sneer at my doddering attempts at social networking.

GetOrfMoiiLand Wed 25-Jul-12 22:39:06

You can dine out on that for years.

In 25 years during a family row at Christmas you can throw in the 'well you stupid idiots voted for the liberal democrats - remember that now defunct party? - in 2010 so you can bloody shuddup'

lisaro Thu 26-Jul-12 01:42:08

Can't believe nobody else has asked did shethey 'do' any Eastenders peeps over the years?

NicholasTeakozy Thu 26-Jul-12 06:39:23

no she won't - she's not really like that with men

Ooh, do tell Nancy

Nancy66 Thu 26-Jul-12 07:48:06

i'm not saying she's gay, just a bit asexual and not interested

RowanMumsnet (MNHQ) Thu 26-Jul-12 10:55:14

Hi all

As you know, now that charges have been laid this case is sub judice.

We're not legal experts here at MNHQ, but generally we would probably delete anything that states, assumes or implies the guilt of anyone who has been charged, and we may delete unhelpful/prejudicial speculation about evidence and other aspects of the case once these posts come to our attention.

Please bear this in mind in your posts.

MNHQ

emmieging Thu 26-Jul-12 12:41:29

What, you mean we have to stick to facts MNHQ??

No lurid speculation or prurient gossip??

Just wondered grin

NicholasTeakozy Thu 26-Jul-12 13:31:04

I only deal in FACTS Emmie, but seem to have had a couple of posts deleted. I think they're my first ever. sad

emmieging Thu 26-Jul-12 13:45:57

Do you remember the McCann threads? Lots of deletion going on there, when posters were simply stating facts. MNHQ seems to have a bit of a bee in its bonnet over certain news stories, less so about others.

Be interesting to see how this develops

NicholasTeakozy Thu 26-Jul-12 16:11:45

No, I wasn't here for those, thankfully.

Actually, I had a post deleted a couple of weeks ago for winding up an idiot. Only just remembered that. hmm

Ponders Thu 26-Jul-12 16:30:39

the CPS thought they had a good case against J Terry, didn't they?

Just sayin'....

I sincerely hope they've got some more sticky evidence this time hmm

donnie Thu 26-Jul-12 18:48:01

oh gosh I had one of my posts deleted....confused

LineRunnerSpartanNaked Thu 26-Jul-12 22:23:56

Still an attractive thread heading.

limitedperiodonly Thu 26-Jul-12 22:57:18

Not me <preens>

<don't take this as a challenge MNHQ>

I think it always helps to stay on the right side of the law if you stick to base abuse about people's looks and personal habits.

lisaro Thu 26-Jul-12 22:59:01

Wonder if we could get away with more if we say 'ALLEGEDLY' in front of everything, as Ian Hislop ALLEGEDLY does on HIGNFY.

limitedperiodonly Thu 26-Jul-12 23:04:10

No.

But it's okay IMO as long as you don't say someone is guilty as sin or speculate on evidence such as

lisaro Thu 26-Jul-12 23:06:55

So IF I thought they were all guilty as sin, I couldn't say? I'll keep quiet then.

Nancy66 Thu 26-Jul-12 23:14:52

A tad over cautious of MN I'd say....

But it is a complete myth that prefixing a damaging statement with 'allegedly' makes it legally safe.

limitedperiodonly Thu 26-Jul-12 23:23:23

It would be wrong to say someone is guilty because that's for a jury to decide. But you could always say you can't wait to hear their vigorous defence in court.

That's what they've promised us, after all.

<keen legal student>

<rubs hands>

edam Fri 27-Jul-12 10:51:32

Strange thing is, although they've been charged over phone hacking, there's been nothing more heard about the murder case where the prime suspect was a private detective who did an awful lot of work for the Screws, and the Screws was tailing the officer in charge of the investigation. When this one came out, their very thin excuse was that they thought the guy was having an affair - with his own wife! Clearly bollocks. Strikes me apparently interfering in a murder investigation is quite important - why haven't they been held to account over that and why is no-one reporting developments in that case?

tuckchop Fri 27-Jul-12 11:21:59

I like the Rebekka hair style....but she should save her explanations for the court. Ordiary people dont get a say pre court hearing.

Viviennemary Fri 27-Jul-12 11:57:54

Something that really puzzles me about all this. She actually admitted to paying police officers. I heard her on TV. Surely she must realise this is against the law.

edam Fri 27-Jul-12 12:09:17

Apparently not. She doesn't seem to have done any media law training - AFAIK didn't do NCTJ as she moved from being a features secretary into journalism. Nowt wrong with that, plenty of people do, but most have the common sense to do some media law training, especially if they work in national newspapers and become an editor. That footage of Rebekah merrily admitting to paying cops at the select committee shows Coulson, who did do formal training, stepping in PDQ to correct her. Amazing that MPs didn't follow this up at the time.

lisaro Fri 27-Jul-12 12:15:01

Actually it may not have been naivety. Deflecting the heat. And a lot more of it will be done during the trial. No doubt there are people who haven't been mentioned in this sweating.

edam Fri 27-Jul-12 12:16:37

I don't see how it was deflecting the heat - the admission was made a few years ago at a select committee enquiry, not during the present scandal. And confessing to a crime doesn't deflect the heat anyway, does it?

emmieging Fri 27-Jul-12 12:17:00

Either extreme stupidity/ naivety, or the fact that someone who is THAT self-serving probably thinks they're above the law....

edam Fri 27-Jul-12 12:20:12

she did, and she was right for a very long time - it was only the fact that the Guardian didn't give up, and that they turned up the Millie Dowler allegations, that meant the chickens eventually made it home to roost. The Met and the government spent years telling people to 'move along, nothing to see here' while the CPS claimed listening to other people's voicemail wasn't a crime.

limitedperiodonly Fri 27-Jul-12 12:44:00

It is breathtaking stupidity. Most people, not just journalists, would suspect that making payments to police officers and other public officials was at the very least unorthodox and not something to shout about.

The only explanation for such a glaring gap in education is that Rupert Murdoch thought she was so talented in other respects that he expected more knowledgeable executives to provide a safety net.

That's common enough. It's always a bit of a worry, though.

But she's said she didn't do it so we'll have to see.

If it's proved I'd expect to see some officers charged and not just lowly Plods who pass over registration numbers for a drink. I'm surprised no police officer has been charged already. How can you charge someone with alleged bribery if you don't know who they were allegedly bribing? It's not fair and makes the whole thing hard to prove. Hmm.

That Select Committee was a disgrace. Did they mishear that statement or just not want to follow it up?

I was flabbergasted by the brass neck of the chairman John Whittingdale saying the other day something like being glad that we may get to the bottom of this matter now. No, thanks to you and your partisan colleagues Louise Mensch, Therese Coffey and the bloke whose name I keep forgetting.

Nancy66 Fri 27-Jul-12 22:50:23

Paying police/public officials for information is pretty common business in journalism - always was - still is - always will be....

limitedperiodonly Fri 27-Jul-12 23:08:56

I know. But there's a world of difference between a drink and a drink.

Some people might get time called on them.

limitedperiodonly Sat 28-Jul-12 09:08:42

To add: to me it seems unfair and illogical that journalists are charged with allegedly corrupting public officials and there will be none of those public officials in the dock. But it is surely desirable that anyone with a strong case to answer is made to answer it.

the time seems right to do something like this again with the Met

And I'm not going to accept any arguments about how much it would all cost. We should just do it right this time and follow through to the end.

Hundreds of officers were sacked or allowed to retire but not one faced criminal charges. The findings have never been released either. What a surprise.

hackmum Sun 29-Jul-12 17:28:26

edam: " Strikes me apparently interfering in a murder investigation is quite important - why haven't they been held to account over that and why is no-one reporting developments in that case?"

I've been wondering exactly the same thing. When I first read about this, I thought it was going to be sensational and could even be the one thing that brings down Cameron, purely through his association with Brooks and Coulson. But since then, not a peep. What's going on?

limited - have very much enjoyed your posts on this thread.

Viviennemary Sun 29-Jul-12 19:21:52

So this paying police officers business. Are we to assume that these payments are declared on tax returns. hmm

limitedperiodonly Mon 30-Jul-12 21:29:48

Thanks hackmum

BlackOutTheSun Thu 02-Aug-12 21:56:40

Rebekah Brooks is formally charged over alleged phone hacking grin

SerialKipper Tue 02-Oct-12 15:31:09

Oh yes oh yes oh yes!

Maybe I should start a new thread for this, but I just wanted to let everyone know that "and others" now includes Alex Marunchuk and Jonathan Rees.

I'm not sure how much we can say. But look up the murder of Daniel Morgan and subsequent allegations that someone from NoW was conducting surveillance on Chief Det Supt Dave Cook who led the murder investigation.

Eg: Thornton Heath murder victim was to reveal Met corruption to News of the World

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