Sports Direct - Why are MPs involved?

(34 Posts)
claig Tue 07-Jun-16 22:48:23

I am against zero hours contracts, but as the political class allowed them to be legal, why are MPs calling a businessman in for questioning?

KenDoddsDadsDog Tue 07-Jun-16 22:50:36

It's about the conditions that were picked up in the warehouse - paying under minimum wage , calling ambulances for people having to give birth in toilets and having heart attacks, having to stay after hours without pay for security searches , docking pay etc.

claig Tue 07-Jun-16 22:54:12

But why is this something for MPs to deal with? Are there no legal or union or employment measures if something was done wrong? What has the political class got to do with business?

Does this mean that every business who has a lot of zero hours employees and asks them to stay behind at the end of the shift to check for possible theft should be called in front of the political class? Is this what they are there for and is there no one else who can do this?

monkeywithacowface Tue 07-Jun-16 23:02:36

I think you are being a tad disingenuous in your posts. It's about rather more than zero hour contracts.

FiveGoMadInDorset Tue 07-Jun-16 23:05:09

So you think that's ok? Wetting yourself as you aren't allowed to go to the toilet? What he is doing I against good working practice which is stated by the political class as you insist on calling it

KenDoddsDadsDog Tue 07-Jun-16 23:08:47

It hasn't got anything to do with zero hours contracts. It's an investigation into poor working practices in his business by the Business Select Committee. He's under investigation by HRMC for not paying minimum wage , he doesn't recognise unions in his business although they had plenty to say today .

claig Tue 07-Jun-16 23:09:05

I don't see what it has to do with the political class.

BBC Newsnight said that unions and the media and investors had tried to get change and only the "media circus" of this appearance in fron of the political class has done anything?

Surely there are other ways of dealing with it if anything was done wrong rather than having MPs call him in? If not, then how many other things are going on elsewhere that never get sorted because the political class doesn't have time to interview everyone?

What control do the political class have over businesses and business people? Surely they only make laws and the law should be used if anything is wrong?

KenDoddsDadsDog Tue 07-Jun-16 23:09:53

Who should sort it ?

claig Tue 07-Jun-16 23:10:27

'He's under investigation by HRMC for not paying minimum wage , he doesn't recognise unions in his business although they had plenty to say today .'

Yes, then why are MPs involved if it is to do with the HMRC? And it is not illegal not to have unions, so what do MPs have to do with businesses?

claig Tue 07-Jun-16 23:12:14

'Who should sort it ?'

That is what has got me wondering? Why are MPS doing it? Is that all we have got? As he said himself, other businesses will also do things wrong and he wanst to be treated fairly.

Do we rely on the political class to sort out possible bad employment practice? Have we not got a better way of resolving these things?

KenDoddsDadsDog Tue 07-Jun-16 23:13:04

I suggest you read up and draw your own conclusions . Not sure why you're asking for info and repeating the same thing over and over.
Who should sort it ?

KenDoddsDadsDog Tue 07-Jun-16 23:13:49

What do you suggest happens ?

FiveGoMadInDorset Tue 07-Jun-16 23:14:55

And what was your view on the 'political class' getting involved in the wiretapping saga?

claig Tue 07-Jun-16 23:15:33

This is from the TUC

"Do I have a right to use the loo during my working day?

The law is currently unclear on this, but you do have a right to take a break for 20 minutes if you work more than 6 hours a day, and therefore do have a clear right to use the toilet during this time, or during a lunch break.

If you have a medical condition which means you have to take a toilet break at other times your employer would not be able to deny you a break.

The TUC is pressing for legal change to give people the right to use the toilet at other times. Find out more in the TUC's Give us a (Loo!) break guide."

worksmart.org.uk/

I have heard of other comapnies having these type of policies. Why aren't the political class interviewing them and why aren't they changing the law?

claig Tue 07-Jun-16 23:17:36

'And what was your view on the 'political class' getting involved in the wiretapping saga?'

What wiretapping saga? The political class are voted in by us to represent us and make the law so if there is a law about wiretapping that they need to vote on then they have to be involved.

But interviewing a businessman about employment practice that may be bad but not illegal, is what I don't understand.

KenDoddsDadsDog Tue 07-Jun-16 23:17:36

Are you Mrs Ashley ? You popped a button earlier today love . So embarrassing for you on TV and everything.

claig Tue 07-Jun-16 23:22:11

Maybe it was just the political class doing factfinding. I think he could have refused and they may not have the power to force him to appear.

FiveGoMadInDorset Tue 07-Jun-16 23:23:35

It's the government

ShatnersBassoon Tue 07-Jun-16 23:26:16

Do you mean simply 'politicians' when you say 'political class'? Or do you think those involved in today's select committee are some sort of elite MP?

I'm getting Gabby Logon flashbacks.

claig Tue 07-Jun-16 23:27:33

No, I'm wrong, they have a lot more power than I thought

"Sports Direct: MPs to discuss sanctions on Mike Ashley
Move could include billionaire being found in contempt of parliament after his refusal to appear before select committee"

www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jun/03/sports-direct-mike-ashley-mps-to-discuss-sanctions

I am surprised at that level of power. Sounds a bit like a North Korea type thing over business.

claig Tue 07-Jun-16 23:29:25

I don't think they are elite in any way. I just think they are a class of politicians, a grouping of politicians, a political class.

hownottofuckup Tue 07-Jun-16 23:38:02

Do you think that maybe you don't understand the full role of a MP?

claig Tue 07-Jun-16 23:42:20

'Do you think that maybe you don't understand the full role of a MP?'

Yes, I didn't know they had the power to summon business people if they don't like the way they run their business. I didn't think they had that power. I thought there would be a separation of powers where some other legal agency would be involved rather than politicians. It seems a bit arbitrary to me because, as Ashley said, there are other businesses doing things wrong.

StepAwayFromTheThesaurus Tue 07-Jun-16 23:43:56

You do know that politicians are democratically elected, don't you?

claig Tue 07-Jun-16 23:46:40

'You do know that politicians are democratically elected, don't you?'

Yes, but I didn't think that gives them the power to summon business people if they don't like the way they operate. I thought it would be a matter for lawyers if something was done wrong, not a political committee.

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